#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 9 February 2017

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7: [01:06:42] <spronk> ugh
8: [01:06:44] <spronk> fucking laravel.
9: [01:24:08] <zippy> whats the beef chief?
10: [01:24:10] <zippy> btw
11: [01:24:16] <zippy> everyone is now on slack fyi.
12: [01:24:36] <zippy> Stevie, Colin, Hailwood....
13: [01:24:51] <zippy> UC
14: [01:25:07] <zippy> spronk: just upgraded to 5.4?
15: [01:25:31] <spronk> trying to
16: [01:25:34] <spronk> everyone is on slack?
17: [01:25:35] <spronk> really?
18: [01:25:42] <zippy> https://silverstripe-users.signup.team
19: [01:25:45] <spronk> but slack is so shit
20: [01:25:54] <zippy> yerp, I only joined this morning after noticing this channel was even more empty that usual.
21: [01:26:05] <spronk> wait...
22: [01:26:13] <spronk> is this not the same as silverstripe-open ?
23: [01:26:18] <zippy> no idea
24: [01:26:34] <zippy> feels a bit like front end frameworks eh
25: [01:26:34] <spronk> fuck i hate slack
26: [01:26:37] <spronk> and it's stupid silos
27: [01:27:01] <zippy> from a chat perspective it's not bad. You can style text a bit so have code in messages, multi line, etc
28: [01:27:12] <zippy> editing messages is nice
29: [01:27:34] <spronk> ughhh
30: [01:27:37] <spronk> but its so bloated
31: [01:27:45] <spronk> and i can't use a terminal
32: [01:27:54] <spronk> and i can't just /join #someotherfreenodechannel
33: [01:28:06] <spronk> and signing in is about the worst experience in the world
34: [01:28:29] <zippy> shall I make ss-helper act as a proxy :P
35: [01:28:42] <spronk> i mean shit like "Try up to 10 email addresses" to find your team
36: [01:28:43] <spronk> jesus christ.
37: [01:29:18] <Robdgreat> spronk: some teams enable irc gateway
38: [01:29:56] <Robdgreat> I had one I used to connect to via irc, was nice not having to run the crashy client
39: [01:30:13] <spronk> i must have like 10 slack user accounts
40: [01:30:18] <spronk> why can't they have a fucking SSO
41: [01:30:31] <zippy> mmhmm
42: [01:30:56] <Robdgreat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
43: [01:34:40] <DanaeNZ> I think I removed the ss slack cos it was so notification happy
44: [01:34:47] <DanaeNZ> Well I muted them first
45: [01:34:54] <DanaeNZ> But then what's the point
46: [01:35:00] <DanaeNZ> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
47: [01:36:02] <spronk> hmm?
48: [01:36:40] <Robdgreat> I don't get notified and most of the time I don't pay attention to the chat, but I look in from time to time
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50: [02:14:37] <Nightjar> Hi team!
51: [02:15:03] <spronk> hey look
52: [02:15:05] <Nightjar> spronk, zippy; true troopers of their time <3
53: [02:15:12] <spronk> lolwat
54: [02:15:17] <zippy> O.o
55: [02:15:22] <zippy> time for a
56: [02:15:28] <Nightjar> IRC; BEST IC
57: [02:15:38] <spronk> ugh
58: [02:15:40] <spronk> the problem is.....
59: [02:15:41] <DanaeNZ> _b
60: [02:15:47] <spronk> i'm not going to be ditching #freenode any time soon
61: [02:15:48] <Nightjar> oh gidday DanaeNZ :)
62: [02:15:53] <spronk> so...
63: [02:15:56] <spronk> now i need two things.
64: [02:15:58] <DanaeNZ> 'lo
65: [02:16:02] <Nightjar> I can agree with that.
66: [02:16:08] <spronk> fuck slack.
67: [02:16:12] <Nightjar> I can agree with that.
68: [02:16:36] <Nightjar> But hey, it's got the peoples by their sheeples :P so whatevers.
69: [02:17:00] <Nightjar> serves a purpose, and people are using it. That's the main part I guess.
70: [02:17:18] <Nightjar> https://media.giphy.com/media/HdcimOKferlkI/giphy.gif
71: [02:17:30] <spronk> it's gonna be funny when slack fuck up
72: [02:17:33] <spronk> and everyone's locked in
73: [02:18:08] <DanaeNZ> hmmm I don't really have any work to do immediately
74: [02:18:15] <DanaeNZ> But I don't feel like writing documentation
75: [02:18:24] <DanaeNZ> I feel like taking a nap
76: [02:19:58] <Nightjar> coffee
77: [02:20:00] <Nightjar> :P
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81: [02:53:20] <DanaeNZ> but it is nearly 4pm!
82: [02:53:28] <DanaeNZ> if I have coffee I won't be able to sleep
83: [02:53:34] <DanaeNZ> but at the same time
84: [02:53:36] <DanaeNZ> mmmmm coffee
85: [02:56:00] <spronk> lol
86: [02:56:05] <spronk> you can't sleep if you ahve coffee after 4?
87: [03:00:22] <Nightjar> m8, the missus can't sleep if she has coffee after 10... am.
88: [03:00:27] <spronk> heh
89: [03:00:45] <Nightjar> Not as bad as she used to be. Used to be any coffee; no sleep.
90: [03:01:05] <Nightjar> May as well have been BZP to her
91: [03:01:10] <spronk> wow
92: [03:01:25] <Nightjar> Heart going mad & all.
93: [03:06:03] <zippy> I go a little bit of coffee and a tea spoon of milo at 8pm, gives me a little go
94: [03:12:02] <spronk> what, straight?
95: [03:12:13] <spronk> powder and grounds? :)
96: [03:13:02] <DanaeNZ> mmmmm milo and coffee
97: [03:14:40] <Nightjar> nom nom.
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132: [12:08:06] <r3v3rb> hi all
133: [12:08:24] <r3v3rb> SS4 << CDN Support? Happening or planned or module or not...
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142: [14:14:45] <_Nasir> Morning felas
143: [14:14:47] <_Nasir> fellas
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154: [16:26:16] <r3v3rb> arhghhg, I have extended Member with a belongs_many_many and many_many on the other end, when I try Member::currentUser()->Course() I get a 'Method not found' error yet Course is the belongs_many_many works on development machine not live site...
155: [16:26:51] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer, ^^ any idea?
156: [16:27:16] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: dev/build?
157: [16:27:29] <kinglozzer> Method not found, or call to member function on non object
158: [16:27:30] <kinglozzer> ?
159: [16:28:07] <r3v3rb> 'Uncaught Exception: Object->__call(): the method 'course' does not exist on 'Member', or the method is not public.' one of them
160: [16:28:38] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: singular?
161: [16:28:44] <kinglozzer> Courses() ?
162: [16:29:02] <kinglozzer> many_many / belongs_many_many are usually named with plurals
163: [16:29:06] <kinglozzer> juts checking :P
164: [16:29:35] <r3v3rb> yeh, not here four years ago!
165: [16:29:58] <r3v3rb> private static $belongs_many_many = array (
166: [16:29:58] <r3v3rb> 'Course' => 'Course'); worked in 3.1/3.2 etc
167: [16:30:24] <r3v3rb> this is going to bite me isn't it!
168: [16:30:40] <kinglozzer> Oh yeah it should work, just unusual to not have it plural when it references a plural relationship :P
169: [16:31:08] <kinglozzer> I dunno, all I can think is dev/build if the two codebases are identical
170: [16:31:13] <r3v3rb> it was a long time ago before I started doing things properly! :D
171: [16:31:35] <r3v3rb> hmm, dev built already :(
172: [16:32:55] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: You sure the codebases are the same?
173: [16:33:06] <kinglozzer> Could be config.yml missing an update or something?
174: [16:33:18] <r3v3rb> yup, just sent them all packing
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176: [16:35:41] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer, I'll delete everything and reupload...
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178: [16:43:23] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer, same...
179: [16:46:27] <r3v3rb> arh, is it because I'm using CourseMember extends Member and I'm using Member::currentUser?
180: [16:48:58] <kinglozzer> Probably r3v3rb
181: [16:49:35] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: $member = CourseMember::get()->byID(Member::currentUserID());
182: [16:49:49] <r3v3rb> nice fix!
183: [16:49:51] <kinglozzer> Problem solved :P
184: [16:49:57] <r3v3rb> yup
185: [16:54:29] <r3v3rb> if I pluralise the Course it will break all existing entries wont it??? kinglozzer
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187: [16:54:45] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Nope
188: [16:54:48] <Parker> Hello
189: [16:55:07] <kinglozzer> You might need to update form field names if you've got a GridField named 'Course' or something
190: [16:55:13] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Actually wait, it might...
191: [16:55:20] <r3v3rb> okay, i'll dig a bit deeper
192: [16:55:21] <kinglozzer> Is it named that on the many_many, or the belongs_many_many side?
193: [16:55:30] <kinglozzer> It takes the name from the many_many side I think
194: [16:55:32] <r3v3rb> belongs many
195: [16:55:38] <r3v3rb> phew
196: [16:55:42] <r3v3rb> bbiam
197: [16:55:48] <Parker> Is there a way to change the output of the $LinkingMode variable? I'm looking to use "active" rather than "current" or "section"
198: [16:56:50] <kinglozzer> Parker: Nope, but you can always just do <% if $IsCurrent || $IsSection %>active<% end_if %>
199: [16:57:17] <Parker> D'oh. Didn't think of the $IsCurrent $IsSection variables
200: [16:57:20] <Parker> Thank you :)
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208: [17:39:11] <tester_> how to check member password in silverstripe with custom login
209: [17:39:28] <tester_> I don't know how passwords are hashed in silverstripe
210: [17:39:39] <tester_> Could you help me plz
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215: [18:09:26] <tester_> or any help with custom login
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218: [18:57:14] <wmk> tester define custom login
219: [18:57:29] <wmk> tester_, ^^
220: [18:59:07] <tester_> like I want login with ajax
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223: [19:04:55] <tester_> any example would be great!
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229: [19:35:22] <Nightjar> Hi team!
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233: [19:53:54] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ has arrived :>
234: [19:54:02] <Nightjar> o/
235: [19:54:29] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: \o
236: [19:54:41] <DanaeNZ> Someone put a plunger of coffee on and it's actually good
237: [19:54:45] <DanaeNZ> It's a good morning
238: [19:55:30] <Nightjar> I had a coffee today too
239: [19:55:46] <Nightjar> It had no more ingredients than were necessary. And it was nice.
240: [19:55:55] <Nightjar> I might have another one
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242: [19:59:07] <_Nasir> Is it possible to use template formatting on a DB::Query created ArrayList?
243: [19:59:35] <_Nasir> Specifically, I am trying to do $Date.Month, etc.
244: [20:02:15] <Nightjar> Date.Month is just SS_Date::Month
245: [20:02:19] <Nightjar> err
246: [20:02:21] <Nightjar> Date::Month
247: [20:02:31] <Nightjar> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.5/class-Date.html#_Month
248: [20:03:29] <_Nasir> The issue here is I am pulling data from an external DB
249: [20:03:43] <_Nasir> But that is a DB managed by Silverstripe.
250: [20:04:53] <_Nasir> I can get $Date back, but any type of formatting breaks it.
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252: [20:08:09] <Nightjar> I don't understand what you're asking _Nasir
253: [20:09:01] <_Nasir> Ok, let me try and explain
254: [20:09:15] <Nightjar> You want to create a query with a formatted date, or you want to render the resulting arraylist with some value cast as a Date?
255: [20:10:00] <_Nasir> I'll do either one, I like the casting because it gives me flexibility in the templates.
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257: [20:10:19] <_Nasir> I have 2 databases on separate machines both managed by silverstripe.
258: [20:11:11] <_Nasir> I connect to the external DB and pull data from my tables, and i can print that data to my website, but i cannot format that data, I can only have it displayed exactly as it is stored
259: [20:11:52] <Nightjar> Because you've got ArrayData objects, probably filled with fields cast as Text
260: [20:12:27] <Nightjar> You can either find a way to cast the values, or alter the query.
261: [20:13:00] <_Nasir> I am trying to alter my query now. I imagine it would be better to use the ORM
262: [20:13:20] <Nightjar> ORM relies on knowing what's in the table.
263: [20:13:34] <_Nasir> right now, my query is...
264: [20:13:55] <Nightjar> please tell me that's going in a pastie, not in channel... :/
265: [20:14:09] <_Nasir> DB::Query("SELECT * FROM MyDataObject")
266: [20:14:13] <_Nasir> no, just that one line
267: [20:14:17] <Nightjar> oh
268: [20:14:22] <_Nasir> I wasn't going to put the whole thing lol
269: [20:14:29] <Nightjar> phew
270: [20:14:36] <Nightjar> ^^
271: [20:14:38] <_Nasir> I'm stupid, not crazy
272: [20:15:06] <_Nasir> Can I not just replace that with MyDataObject::get()?
273: [20:15:32] <Nightjar> well you'd need to know what "MyDataObject" is first (it'd need to be defined in _both_ code bases).
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275: [20:15:34] <Nightjar> but otherwise, yes.
276: [20:15:52] <_Nasir> Well, yes of course.
277: [20:15:54] <Nightjar> Provided you switch the active connection first, I think it should work
278: [20:16:10] <_Nasir> I do that, and it breaks the page.
279: [20:16:20] <_Nasir> I
280: [20:16:26] <_Nasir> I'll show you a pastie
281: [20:17:13] <Nightjar> define 'breaks the page'
282: [20:17:21] <_Nasir> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPpO5P1qNSY
283: [20:17:33] <_Nasir> It completely fails to load
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285: [20:18:02] <Nightjar> yeh, doing it slightly wrong.
286: [20:18:08] <_Nasir> it works however with the DB query
287: [20:18:09] <Nightjar> also, define 'completely fails to load'
288: [20:18:13] <_Nasir> 500 error
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290: [20:18:19] <Nightjar> yeah, and what is the error?
291: [20:18:23] <_Nasir> literally nothing at all
292: [20:18:29] <Nightjar> is dev mode on?
293: [20:19:10] <_Nasir> it is not, i guess that might have been useful
294: [20:20:24] <Nightjar> I think it would help to see exactly what the error is :P
295: [20:20:47] <Nightjar> And I'm pretty sure you're looking for: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.5/class-DB.html#_set_conn
296: [20:21:28] <Nightjar> but it has been some time since I've played with DB, so there might be a little more to it.
297: [20:23:12] <_Nasir> hmmmm, let me take a gander here
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299: [20:31:21] <_Nasir> I got it @Nightjar
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301: [20:31:44] <_Nasir> I just added the same dataobject to both sites.
302: [20:32:02] <_Nasir> now I can do the ::get and format everything in the template.
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304: [20:33:37] <DanaeNZ> hey how do you guys handle setting a character limit on an HtmlEditorField? Don't?
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307: [20:39:49] <zippy> DanaeNZ: You can always do that in the vaildation method if you need too
308: [20:40:27] <zippy> you could just go gangstar, and onBeforeWrite() $this->FooField = substr(0, 100); and watch the world burn
309: [20:40:35] <DanaeNZ> zippy: hahahah holy shit
310: [20:41:03] <zippy> you would get a reaction for sure
311: [20:41:08] <DanaeNZ> yeah validation method seems legit. I was also thinking "this will be trimmed to x characters on the frontend" so at least they don't get data cut off
312: [20:44:59] <zippy> yea, gets prickly with html since you don't want to cut off mid tag
313: [20:45:09] <zippy> <p><strong>This is a really long....
314: [20:47:07] <Nightjar> Yeah, you really gotta use domdoc. And it depends on whether you're talking about storage length or rendered length.
315: [20:47:15] <Nightjar> tags being invisible 'n all
316: [20:48:16] <zippy> DanaeNZ: In your validation, strip tags and validate on that length as well
317: [20:49:02] <DanaeNZ> zippy: that's a good idea. Strip tags, validate length, then just spit it out in template
318: [20:49:30] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: I'll read up on Domdoc
319: [20:52:03] <Nightjar> HTMLText uses it, might be helpy methods in there already
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321: [21:02:11] <jonlemmon> Hey there! I'm trying to get my forms looking nice in Bootstrap 3. What's the best way to add classes to the default form fields? Right now, I'm overriding TextField.ss, however all of the attributes are clumped into $AttributesHTML and I can't find an easy way to modify them.
322: [21:05:06] <zippy> When you make the form, you can do things like
323: [21:05:23] <zippy> ah, nm
324: [21:05:31] <zippy> I think there is a module, bootstrap forms
325: [21:06:17] <jonlemmon> it looks like the module is for bootstrap 2
326: [21:06:30] <jonlemmon> but perhaps its code will give me clues...
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328: [21:08:17] <jonlemmon> Hmm, even with the module... it doesn't show how to override the default login form
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330: [21:15:27] <Nightjar> jonlemmon, $field->addAttribute iir
331: [21:15:28] <Nightjar> c
332: [21:16:06] <Nightjar> or you could ask UncleCheese - SS4 is using Bootstrap in the CMS ifaik :>
333: [21:16:34] <Nightjar> afaik*
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339: [22:15:44] <ss-helper> Re: Replace SilverStripe Config - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/q5khashNiuY/zi8_jdHvBQAJ
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345: [23:32:29] <Tron> hey guys I tried running this in the CLI->php framework/cli-script.php dev/build and it is giving me this error
346: [23:32:31] <Tron> ERROR [Warning]: mysqli_close(): Couldn't fetch mysqli IN GET dev/build
347: [23:32:38] <Tron> does anyone know why?
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350: [23:35:25] <DanaeNZ> Tron: your mysql server running?
351: [23:35:41] <Tron> nvm, just my MAMp environment I think
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355: [23:59:52] <Tron> Ok, who would know how to install sake and run it on a server correctly? I copied the sake script from framework/sake script into /usr/bin/sake and the ran sake/dev on my site root which returns sake: command not found

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