#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 15 November 2016

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3: [00:03:06] <Pyromanik> What did it feel like there spronk ?
4: [00:03:29] <irogue> afternoon y'all
5: [00:03:38] <spronk> Pyromanik rolling movements
6: [00:03:41] <spronk> very wobbly
7: [00:03:46] <spronk> nowhere near as jolty as the chch quakes
8: [00:03:49] <spronk> irogue yaw
9: [00:04:15] <irogue> https://www.silverstripe.org/blog/silverstripe-wellington-office-earthquake-updates/
10: [00:04:16] <Pyromanik> spronk, yeah, same same. Septemer was like that, remember?
11: [00:04:32] <spronk> Pyromanik yeah, but september was muuch more forceful than yesterday's quake
12: [00:05:40] <Pyromanik> yeah, it didn't feel particularly 'strong' compared to past experiences. Perhaps more like the June aftershock. But then we're quite far from the epicentre.
13: [00:05:48] <spronk> mm
14: [00:05:57] <spronk> it started quite small here, then kept building
15: [00:06:14] <spronk> quite obvious that it was far away, i was thinking "shiiit did wellington just implode!?"
16: [00:06:31] <Pyromanik> Same. GF woke up panicing, I was all "not even bad" but then it built, got under a beam.
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18: [00:08:35] <Pyromanik> heh, RNZ haivng a chat about cryptocurrency now
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21: [00:23:14] <Snowman23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKMPXqKlFk
22: [00:23:31] <madmatt> Is this the new rickroll?
23: [00:24:04] <Snowman23> um
24: [00:24:14] <Snowman23> Isn't it time to siwtch to Christmas music?
25: [00:24:22] <Snowman23> You know I'm going to be playing christmas themed metal for the next month
26: [00:26:39] <Pyromanik> It's not christmas in england until the bublé is on the TV screens
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37: [01:23:25] <muskie9> too bad there isn't a way to masquerade SilverStripe as derpal... would make the next few months much easier lol
38: [01:23:36] <Pyromanik> hmm?
39: [01:23:47] <spronk> STRUPAL
40: [01:23:51] <Pyromanik> You could do it if you really wanted, I think.
41: [01:23:58] <muskie9> new project, has to be done in durpal...
42: [01:24:10] <muskie9> at least I found a way to manage it via composer
43: [01:24:15] <Pyromanik> With some rather intense rewrite rules and meta tag spoofing
44: [01:24:27] <Pyromanik> oh, and header obscurity.
45: [01:24:42] <Pyromanik> oh... but I guess you mean the CMS :.
46: [01:24:45] <muskie9> lol, that'd probably be easier Pyromanik
47: [01:24:50] <muskie9> ya
48: [01:24:59] <muskie9> cms part would take some leg work I suppose lol
49: [01:26:02] <muskie9> basically learning durpal from scratch... was lucky w/my first cms/framework being SS... so worderping and durpalling hurts
50: [01:27:51] <Pyromanik> Until recently I didn't even know drupal had an admin area; I thought it was predominantly frontend edit
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52: [01:28:44] <muskie9> it's a pain in the ars is what it is... we've done some basic drupal updates in the past, but not a full build... the admin may be a small step up from worderp from what I remember
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54: [01:31:13] <irogue> [13:26:39] <Pyromanik> It's not christmas in england until the bublé is on the TV screens
55: [01:31:17] <irogue> christmas is cancelled then
56: [01:31:33] <Pyromanik> >in England<
57: [01:32:10] <irogue> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-bublé-is-taking-a-break-from-singing-after-sons-cancer-diagnosis_us_5825c5aee4b02d21bbc84657
58: [01:34:23] <Pyromanik> Yeah but that's like saying "Mcauley Calkin is old now, so there'll be no more Home Alone at Christmas time"
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61: [01:35:45] <zippy> that was a bit woggly..
62: [01:36:07] <Pyromanik> wiggle wiggle
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64: [01:37:22] <muskie9> https://puu.sh/siyGt/2ab133d549.gif
65: [01:37:35] <Pyromanik> ehahaha
66: [01:37:53] <zippy> it's like seddon and Kaikoura go at the same ish time
67: [01:37:59] <spronk> heh
68: [01:38:18] <spronk> oh wow, couple of 5.8-9s
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71: [02:02:05] <Firesphere> Yes, I've had mildly enough of this rollercoaster :|
72: [02:02:20] <Pyromanik> Well you're in for a treat then :/
73: [02:02:28] <Pyromanik> This will go on for months.
74: [02:02:46] <spronk> years
75: [02:02:57] <Pyromanik> Likely.
76: [02:21:03] <Firesphere> Yep, I know, expected at least about a month of aftershocks
77: [02:25:32] <Firesphere> Doesn't mean I have to like it
78: [02:25:39] <spronk> :(
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80: [02:36:45] <Pyromanik> Truth, but I'm just sick of hearing people get angry about things they can't control. Nearly everyone in Christchurch used to get all "FUCKING SHIT FUCK GRR FUCK" every time there was an aftershock.
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82: [02:37:43] <Pyromanik> I mean, I get why. Didn't make it much less stressful to hear it vocalised.
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86: [03:00:07] <ss-helper> Re: Replace SilverStripe Config - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/q5khashNiuY/ye3vEWMeBQAJ
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89: [03:44:21] <Firesphere> I'm not mad or anything about it. It's just not funny, that's all :)
90: [03:44:44] <muskie9> nature's a bitch... it's ok to say it
91: [03:45:33] <xyphoid> what i'm at the throttling stage for is SUPERMOON
92: [03:45:39] <xyphoid> MAYBE IT CAUSED QUAKES
93: [03:45:41] <xyphoid> NO IT DOESN'T
94: [03:47:06] <Pyromanik> ^
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118: [07:07:45] <ryan__> I'm using silverstripe 3.2 and have couple of hero blocks using image uploads via s3-assets module - whenever ec2 autoscale and elastic beanstalk deployment the images are deleted hence they appears broken, logging to admin regenerates the images, any have any clue how to get rid of this ?
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130: [08:30:15] <ss-helper> Re: Some Digital Ocean to Dropbox backup scripts - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/ZvwNX7298b0/mUGC5cEwBQAJ
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136: [09:00:16] <ss-helper> Re: Some Digital Ocean to Dropbox backup scripts - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/ZvwNX7298b0/0ZeO1BEyBQAJ
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141: [10:12:31] <slievr> hello, is there a replacement for TableField I can't see it in the 3.4 docs
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148: [10:44:14] <wmk> slievr, it's not even in 3.1...?
149: [10:45:09] <wmk> slievr, http://api.silverstripe.org/3.0/class-ComplexTableField.html is deprected, us GridField
150: [10:46:22] <slievr> upgrading an old site, I used table field on the front end to generate data objects for each row.
151: [10:46:27] <slievr> I think I can use https://github.com/sheadawson/silverstripe-quickaddnew
152: [10:46:30] <slievr> giving it a go
153: [10:47:01] <wmk> oh, grid and frontend...
154: [10:47:28] <slievr> always fun =D
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165: [11:50:33] <hood> If i want to change something within framework/javascript/DateField.js what would be the correct approach? I obviously do not wish to vcs the framework :-)
166: [12:00:34] <wmk> define something
167: [12:01:11] <wmk> you could block original DateField.js and include your copy with your changes. But that depends on _what_ you want/need to change
168: [12:01:34] <wmk> hood, ^^^
169: [12:08:41] <hood> I wish to change the "on" trigger in line 29 to "focus" rather than "click" :P
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171: [12:17:45] <samsam> close all doors and windows, and edit the framework
172: [12:18:08] <samsam> don't confirm, this conversation is being logged.
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175: [12:34:45] <hood> haha :P
176: [12:40:03] <hood> wmk how would i go about blocking the original .js file?
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178: [12:40:48] <madmatt> Requirements::block('path/to/js')
179: [12:41:00] <madmatt> so path would be 'framework/javascript/DateField.js'
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181: [12:42:28] <hood> Thank you :-) I will give it a try
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189: [12:58:36] <wmk> hood, yup. as madmatt mentioned
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197: [13:48:59] <ryan__> I'm using silverstripe 3.2 and have couple of hero blocks using image uploads via s3-assets module - whenever ec2 autoscale and elastic beanstalk deployment the images are deleted hence they appears broken, logging to admin regenerates the images, any have any clue how to get rid of this ?
198: [13:49:35] <ryan__> kinglozzer: thoughts ?
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204: [14:51:55] <slievr> anyway to search for classes by singular_name
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211: [15:32:58] <agent44> Hi All, I am new to the framework and trying to create a pretty simple model admin class. I have the menu item in the CMS but I am getting an error when I try to display it: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method GalleryAlbum::i18n_singular_name() in /Projects/projname/framework/admin/code/ModelAdmin.php on line 284
212: [15:33:20] <agent44> Can anyone help me with this please. Can’t seem to find anything helpful online
213: [15:33:31] <kinglozzer> agent44: Does you class GalleryAlbum extend DataObject ?
214: [15:34:06] <agent44> kinglozzer: it does
215: [15:34:42] <kinglozzer> agent44: What does your private static $managed_models look like?
216: [15:34:46] <kinglozzer> In your ModelAdmin class
217: [15:35:00] <agent44> private static $managed_models = array(
218: [15:35:00] <agent44> 'GalleryAlbum',
219: [15:35:01] <agent44> 'Image'
220: [15:35:02] <agent44> );
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222: [15:36:28] <kinglozzer> Hmm, and you've run /dev/build?
223: [15:36:41] <kinglozzer> Can you paste your GalleryAlbum class? http://pastie.org/
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225: [15:38:07] <agent44> I have run dev/build again. Though I just restrted my web server and its working now. That was really odd. Thanks for your help kinglozzer !
226: [15:38:18] <kinglozzer> Cool :)
227: [15:38:35] <kinglozzer> Maybe an opcache thing
228: [15:40:00] <agent44> Possibly yeah
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230: [15:53:44] <agent44> kinglozzer: Could I ask you - I need to create an image gallery, with albums and options for making images featured. I was planning on using a DataExtension on Image and creating a model for the albums, not sure how to expose this in my model admin. Any useful tips or docs I coudl use to help with this?
231: [15:54:02] <agent44> I was hoping to find a module but cant find one with the features I need
232: [15:57:45] <kinglozzer> agent44: I've not really built anything like that before, so I can't offer much help I'm afraid... the first thing I'd check is whether you can edit Images in ModelAdmin (I notice your example from a minute ago has Image as one of the managed_models)
233: [15:58:16] <agent44> Yeah I was thinking when you went into an Album record you coudl add the associated images
234: [15:58:23] <kinglozzer> I'd probably just have an album DataObject, with a many_many relation to Image. Then use the 'sortablefile' module so you can re-order them
235: [15:59:06] <agent44> OK Sounds similar to what I was thinking.
236: [16:00:01] <kinglozzer> That should cover most things. If you need to add something bigger (like a TinyMCE description for an image) then I'd suggest an intermediary object (that connects the Album to the Image, called 'AlbumItem' or something)
237: [16:01:05] <agent44> OK, thanks for your help
238: [16:01:12] <agent44> Appreciate it! :)
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254: [18:30:17] <ss-helper> Rizotto: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
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258: [18:35:11] <Rizotto> I was thinking about this problem , https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.3/getting_started/installation/common_problems/#i-have-whitespace-before-my-html-output-triggering-quirks-mode-or-preventing-cookies-from-being-set but script runs without any messages. Any ideas?
259: [18:35:29] <Rizotto> https://snag.gy/b0OjP7.jpg maybe anyone had a similar issue ? It's parsed in every page
260: [18:36:17] <Rizotto> Wrong order, 1 message must be after ;D
261: [18:36:25] <samsam> lol
262: [18:36:36] <samsam> did you by any chance use any PHP in your .ss files?
263: [18:41:11] <Rizotto> Checking .ss files, but I didn't found anything special yet
264: [18:47:28] <Rizotto> I have deleted everything from Page.ss and nothing
265: [18:47:57] <samsam> it's still showing up eh?
266: [18:48:40] <Rizotto> yes
267: [18:48:43] <samsam> every page of the front-end?
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270: [18:53:12] <Rizotto> Not every, but I remove everything from Page.ss https://snag.gy/AxTaWL.jpg , so the problem isn't in templates I suppose?
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272: [18:57:56] <samsam> indeed
273: [18:58:10] * samsam shrugs
274: [18:59:54] <Rizotto> Well I see only one way, comment every part untill i find it..
275: [19:11:24] <samsam> could it be a mod?
276: [19:11:31] <samsam> did you alter any framework files?
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278: [19:16:32] <Rizotto> Freshly updated framework and nothing
279: [19:17:33] <muskie9> Rizotto do you have any php files where you used closing php tags ?> ?
280: [19:17:47] <Stomach> Rizotto - somewhere in your code you could have a PHP file with a newline at the beginning of it
281: [19:23:22] <Rizotto> https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.3/getting_started/installation/common_problems/#i-have-whitespace-before-my-html-output-triggering-quirks-mode-or-preventing-cookies-from-being-set I'm running this script and it passes ( just to test if it works I have added a space in config file and It gave me error)
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283: [19:26:14] <ryan__> Hi there, is there any way I can avoid cached cropped images being vanished while elastic beanstalk deployment
284: [19:26:48] <ryan__> they looks broken and re-created only once admin dash is accessed or the page is accessed again
285: [19:30:34] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] How do I semver a module and yet support multiple SilverStripe major releases? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/XGiUMpD8wz4/kCrNsHBUBQAJ
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288: [19:48:19] <digitall_it> greetings to everyone. How’s the situation in Australia?
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294: [20:07:17] <digitall_it> Just discovered Doorman async process manager. Seems very cool and easy to use!
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296: [20:24:26] <digitall_it> Anyone knows how to switch the language team on Transifex from Italian (Italy) to Italian? seems I've been too specific.
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302: [20:38:11] <helenclarko> Hey all
303: [20:38:14] <helenclarko> o/
304: [20:38:30] <digitall_it> hello helenclarko! o/
305: [20:38:39] <digitall_it> Nice to meet you.
306: [20:38:56] <helenclarko> Hey digitall_it
307: [20:40:09] <helenclarko> Does anyone know of any module that pulls all submitted userform data into a modeladmin table/area? like a CRM menu of types?
308: [20:40:23] <digitall_it> Yes, there is!
309: [20:40:31] <helenclarko> NO WAY!
310: [20:40:31] <digitall_it> it is called, if I remember, userforms!
311: [20:40:41] <helenclarko> I know.
312: [20:40:57] <helenclarko> I know userforms has it per page.
313: [20:41:14] <helenclarko> I guess I'm making my own then.
314: [20:41:19] <muskie9> helenclarko I haven't seen anything that aggregates it all into a model admin
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316: [20:45:37] <digitall_it> It would be nice to extend userforms to do that
317: [20:46:44] <helenclarko> Looks like everything gets dumped out into a SubmittedFormFields database table anyway.
318: [20:46:59] <helenclarko> Should be really easy to pull data from
319: [20:47:08] <helenclarko> and sort.
320: [20:47:49] <digitall_it> It would be useful, indeed.
321: [20:48:03] <digitall_it> How much forms do you use on your project?
322: [20:48:29] <helenclarko> At the moment, only one for this project... So its not really a big deal.
323: [20:48:45] <helenclarko> But I want to add more CRM options.
324: [20:48:51] <digitall_it> Did you think then about just having a link in the left column?
325: [20:49:02] <digitall_it> that jumps directly into the corresponding page
326: [20:49:04] <helenclarko> Ooooooo
327: [20:49:15] <helenclarko> I did not.
328: [20:49:23] <digitall_it> It would work nice for just one form
329: [20:50:06] <helenclarko> Hmmm. Thats an option.
330: [20:50:13] <helenclarko> Thanks digitall_it
331: [20:50:34] <digitall_it> You would then have the ability to work with all the time to a more complex option when time for more forms arises
332: [20:50:43] <digitall_it> ..Or add more links in the left column area
333: [20:57:27] <digitall_it> helenclarko, what are the modules you use more?
334: [20:57:58] <helenclarko> Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean?
335: [20:58:12] <helenclarko> What modules do I use the most?
336: [21:01:13] <digitall_it> I am starting to use Elemental for example
337: [21:01:25] <helenclarko> At the moment, Userforms, BetterButtons, NoCaptcha and a few gridfield extensions
338: [21:01:56] <digitall_it> thisisbd/silverstripe-fixjpeg-orientation corrects a behaviour with jpeg orientation of iPhone images
339: [21:02:03] <digitall_it> Omnipay for payments is very nice
340: [21:02:27] <digitall_it> tractorcow/silverstripe-opengraph is very cool, along with silverstripe/googlesitemaps
341: [21:02:28] <helenclarko> Oh wow, I like the look of Elemental
342: [21:02:46] <digitall_it> I heavily extended it to support nested elements
343: [21:02:50] <helenclarko> ah yes, sitemaps.
344: [21:03:11] <digitall_it> for example, rows with columns in it, and page abstracts within it, images and text, buttons...
345: [21:03:36] <digitall_it> the trick is to have nestable elements to extend the ElementalList
346: [21:03:48] <digitall_it> allows for very complex designs!
347: [21:04:17] <helenclarko> It sounds awesome
348: [21:04:31] <digitall_it> it IS awesome, and even allows for searching!
349: [21:04:41] <digitall_it> it disables the $Content field from CMS
350: [21:04:52] <digitall_it> and on save copies all the blocks in the $Content for searching purposes
351: [21:04:58] <digitall_it> so you can use the standard mysql fulltextsearch
352: [21:05:23] <digitall_it> it is not perfect in that but seems enough for having good searches
353: [21:05:25] <helenclarko> Thats really cool
354: [21:05:50] <digitall_it> also tried Shae Dawson Blocks but still have to iron out some details and my project was almost due
355: [21:06:10] <digitall_it> tractorcow/silverstripe-opengraph is uber cool
356: [21:06:23] <digitall_it> ah, you must use jonom/focuspoint
357: [21:06:28] <digitall_it> it is a blast!
358: [21:06:38] <helenclarko> Yeah, I've used that one.
359: [21:06:39] <digitall_it> ah, how to forgot this one: onom/silverstripe-share-care
360: [21:06:41] <digitall_it> jonom/silverstripe-share-care
361: [21:06:42] <helenclarko> Its great
362: [21:07:12] <digitall_it> it allows you to curate the share data on social networks, it is so beautiful
363: [21:07:24] <helenclarko> Oh now thats neat
364: [21:07:46] <digitall_it> you can show which image to take per default,
365: [21:07:49] <digitall_it> with text to take
366: [21:08:06] <digitall_it> give the social networks a perfectly formatted image in high resolution and right proportions
367: [21:08:19] <digitall_it> and even bypass this data in the CMS in an appropriate tab!
368: [21:08:57] <digitall_it> with omnipay, you are just a few hours away to accepting credit card and paypal and more than 20 different payment providers in your code!
369: [21:09:27] <digitall_it> if you install bummzack/silverstripe-omnipay-ui it even gives you an interface to check your payments with a ModelAdmin
370: [21:09:39] <helenclarko> Yeah, I've dealt with Swipestripe previously and its payment system is pretty bad
371: [21:11:11] <digitall_it> There is a few things I don’t like of Omnipay and Paypal
372: [21:11:24] <digitall_it> it doesn’t actually support IPN
373: [21:11:42] <digitall_it> you rely on the user actually returning to your site to check if the payment failed
374: [21:12:19] <digitall_it> I would like to try
375: [21:12:21] <digitall_it> kickassets
376: [21:12:27] <digitall_it> never had the time to check this out
377: [21:13:01] <digitall_it> the SS team has heavily taken inspiration to produce the new assets interface for the soon to be released 4.0 version
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379: [21:18:08] <helenclarko> I'm looking forward to that.
380: [21:18:21] <digitall_it> it seems very cool,
381: [21:18:34] <digitall_it> indeed, I want now to branch one project and integrate it immediately eh eh eh
382: [21:18:36] <helenclarko> Sounds like they have done a lot of work in allowing asset loading from CDN
383: [21:18:43] <digitall_it> yes
384: [21:18:57] <helenclarko> I know there is modules for that, but its not very clean at the moment
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386: [21:30:36] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] How do I semver a module and yet support multiple SilverStripe major releases? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/XGiUMpD8wz4/UQRXVfRaBQAJ
387: [21:34:21] <digitall_it> ss-helper auto chats from google groups? that’s neat!!
388: [21:36:08] <digitall_it> bye to everyone o/
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394: [22:00:37] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] How do I semver a module and yet support multiple SilverStripe major releases? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/XGiUMpD8wz4/l7gGbwldBQAJ
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403: [22:56:45] <spronk> boo
404: [22:58:05] * DanaeNZ screams
405: [22:58:28] <Pyromanik> yo
406: [22:59:05] <spronk> wooo
407: [22:59:12] <Pyromanik> t?
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410: [23:02:11] <spronk> Not today.
411: [23:02:14] <spronk> Not... today.
412: [23:04:32] <Pyromanik> I wonder what %ge of archive.org is filled with squatter spam :/
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414: [23:24:00] <Pyromanik> Hailwood, Y U ABANDON US D:
415: [23:26:31] <spronk> mm..
416: [23:28:57] <Pyromanik> Slack bastard :<
417: [23:29:09] <Pyromanik> Pun intended
418: [23:30:19] <spronk> lolwut
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420: [23:40:35] <digitall_it> o/ UncleCheese, can you merge a PR to kickassets for the italian translation?
421: [23:40:44] <UncleCheese> let me look
422: [23:41:26] <UncleCheese> ok
423: [23:41:28] <UncleCheese> 3.2.4
424: [23:41:40] <digitall_it> thanks
425: [23:42:03] <digitall_it> also, thank you for creating this module. It is really good.
426: [23:45:04] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] How do I semver a module and yet support multiple SilverStripe major releases? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/XGiUMpD8wz4/fkmrcCpiBQAJ
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428: [23:47:38] <ss-helper> jonlemmon: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
429: [23:49:46] <digitall_it> o/ sorry another PR, there was a typo.
430: [23:50:06] <digitall_it> forgot to change the language dictionary namespace.
431: [23:50:22] <UncleCheese> digitall_it no problem.. thanks for the feedback
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433: [23:54:28] <jonlemmon> Hey there, I'm just setting set up on SS and I'm having some interesting issues with MySql. I'm on a mac using MAMP. And I've noticed that when I run sake, it uses my system MySql install instead of my MAMP MySql. Any idea of how to fix this so sake uses MAMP's MySql?
434: [23:54:50] <Pyromanik> fix cli php
435: [23:55:10] <jonlemmon> Ah okay.
436: [23:55:43] <Pyromanik> compare php -i on cli and phpinfo() in browser
437: [23:55:45] <jonlemmon> Can't find any reference to database or MySql in cli.php....
438: [23:56:03] <Pyromanik> mamp... every damn time.
439: [23:56:09] <Pyromanik> sec
440: [23:56:11] <jonlemmon> do you reckon i should avoid mamp?
441: [23:56:24] <Pyromanik> it causes 100% of the issues.
442: [23:56:29] <Pyromanik> but you can use it.
443: [23:56:47] <spronk> wow
444: [23:56:52] <digitall_it> @jonlemmon I switched to vagrant and never had to look back
445: [23:56:58] <jonlemmon> oh really? mmm okay... i originally did a homebrew install of apache, php, mysql, etc... but then I switched to MAMP cause I like that it's all just in one folder without affecting to the rest of the system
446: [23:56:58] <spronk> lots of buildings in welly coming out as unsafe... many of them newer o_O
447: [23:57:16] <digitall_it> @jonlemmon msg me for details
448: [23:57:18] <jonlemmon> ah... vagrant is an interesting idea... how's the speed for you?
449: [23:57:24] <Pyromanik> spronk, like the stats building? Built recently, to new code spec, given 100% rating... FLOORS COLLAPSED
450: [23:57:25] <jonlemmon> cool wil ldo
451: [23:57:34] <spronk> Pyromanik yeah, and the defence force hq now
452: [23:57:41] <Pyromanik> Yeh, ikr
453: [23:57:42] <spronk> http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/318161/defence-force-hq-quake-damaged,-uninhabitable
454: [23:57:46] <spronk> super wut
455: [23:58:01] <spronk> makes you wonder whether somethignis particularly wrong with those buildings, or whether ... other buildings are just as bad but we don't know
456: [23:58:14] <Pyromanik> Gaia dun gone "100% safety rating? CHALLENGE ACCEPTED"
457: [23:58:45] <Pyromanik> ikr spronk - worst part is the building managers aren't all created equal.
458: [23:58:49] <spronk> mm
459: [23:59:08] <Pyromanik> payineg for thorough check isn't generally high on priority list, just prelim so people can get back in.
460: [23:59:29] <spronk> mm
461: [23:59:50] <Pyromanik> it makes me wonder more about the "Updated code because of canterbury"
462: [23:59:56] <Pyromanik> who updated it?

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