#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 14 November 2016

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9: [00:36:09] <spronk> wobble wobble
10: [00:40:04] <Firesphere> AU
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12: [00:41:26] <Isaac> Hey guys, im having trouble rendering a single element from an array in a template. I tried using a method but silverstripe decided to cache the method call
13: [00:42:57] <Isaac> I also tried $Array[0]
14: [00:43:15] <Isaac> <% if $RowHeading && $Cells[2] %> does not work
15: [00:44:23] <Isaac> ok nevermind, i think <% if $RowHeading && $Cells.offsetGet(2) %> is what i was after
16: [00:44:47] <Isaac> thats nowhere in the docs :/
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20: [01:14:13] <DanaeNZ> Isaac: Is that within a template loop? Can use <% if $Pos == 2 %>
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26: [01:56:44] <Isaac> @DanaeNZ no, I'm not looping over this arraylist, it's an arraylist because it's just 6 elements and it's cleaner than having 6 properties
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28: [02:13:11] <zippy> Hello
29: [02:13:19] <zippy> Stomach: good conference?
30: [02:13:48] <spronk> what conference stomach go to?
31: [02:18:09] <zippy> striper con au
32: [02:18:37] <spronk> woo
33: [02:19:47] <Stomach> yeah it was good :)
34: [02:25:56] <zippy> end of next year eh. You guys got 3.x running on 7 using a module yet?
35: [02:26:42] <Stomach> nope!
36: [02:28:23] <xyphoid> Isaac: haha the desire to have everything be a stdClass instead of an array is really annoying in modern php apps
37: [02:29:17] <Isaac> plus it works well with GridField n what not
38: [02:29:44] <zippy> xyphoid: don't like std's?
39: [02:31:43] <xyphoid> my biggest silverstripe gripe so far has been making arraylists of arraydatas out of my arrays
40: [02:32:05] <xyphoid> (which is a pretty good sign overall really compared to my biggest gripes with other CMSs)
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48: [03:18:24] <Firesphere> Hey folks, how're we doing?
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64: [05:08:32] <xyphoid> finallllllly figured out why sake dev/build flush=1 didn't flush
65: [05:08:38] <xyphoid> that'd been driving me mad
66: [05:09:35] <xyphoid> (cache is per-user, so i had a www-data and a xyphoid cache)
67: [05:12:55] <Firesphere> I could've told you that ;)
68: [05:13:06] <Firesphere> CLI is a different user than Apache/Nginx ;)
69: [05:19:56] <xyphoid> i wasn't expecting per-user caches hah
70: [05:20:29] <xyphoid> pretty obvious once i got annoyed enough to look into where the cache lives but i had to reach that pain point first
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76: [05:52:43] <madmatt> You can set your web-user to run as your login user if it's your dev machine, so only one cache folder to bother with
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114: [10:06:43] <lck_> Hi, trying to translate the frontend uploadfield form. But i am having trouble with reaching the strings within framework/javascript/UploadField_uploadtemplate.js. these include UploadField.CANCELREMOVE and UploadField.OVERWRITE Anybody know why this does not get update by my lang file?
115: [10:11:23] <lck_> Here is a gist https://gist.github.com/hoodweb/79cf32fd2c6bfa6beb58ac45d5986f84
116: [10:12:05] <lck_> I would like to point out that the Remove: 'Slet' works. But any strings inside the javascript file, is not translated
117: [10:12:36] <kinglozzer> lck_: Have you tried clearing your browser cache?
118: [10:12:46] <kinglozzer> That JS template is cached in-browser, so it could be that
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120: [10:14:33] <lck_> I've flushed, cleared browser cache and deleted the silverstripe-cache folder
121: [10:15:41] <lck_> Note, if i manually change the js file, the changes work. But that is obviously not a solution :D
122: [10:20:03] <lck_> I may have missed something, but i am unsure what i would be. Since every other translation works, but those in .js files
123: [10:25:31] <kinglozzer> lck_: It could be that it's because JS translations are managed separately to YAML ones...
124: [10:25:38] <kinglozzer> wmk: Do you have any experience of that? ^^
125: [10:27:39] <kinglozzer> lck_: https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.4/developer_guides/i18n/#javascript-usage
126: [10:27:48] <kinglozzer> I think you might have to add your translations that way
127: [10:30:29] <wmk> are the js translation files included?
128: [10:31:50] <lck_> i tried making this file, but with no luck. Is this file autoloaded aswell as da.yml? https://gist.github.com/hoodweb/6c929b09f22ab48822c390f4647b39a6
129: [10:34:40] <kinglozzer> lck_: You need to call Requirements::add_i18n_javascript like the docs say
130: [10:37:52] <lck_> Oh ofc. Sorry. Now it works! Thank you
131: [10:38:51] <lck_> Out of interest, do you guys have any experience with frontend uploadfields and only saving the image on submit. To prevent a bloated uploads folder?
132: [10:44:11] <kinglozzer> You won't be able to do that with UploadField unfortunately
133: [10:44:51] <kinglozzer> lck_: You can do it with: https://github.com/unclecheese/silverstripe-dropzone
134: [10:45:20] <kinglozzer> Oh, actually I don't think it works that way
135: [10:45:28] <kinglozzer> There's an option for "do not upload files until user clicks an upload button"
136: [10:45:51] <kinglozzer> So it's not delayed until they click "Submit", just until they click an "Upload" button
137: [10:46:03] <kinglozzer> But... https://github.com/unclecheese/silverstripe-dropzone#tracking--removing-unused-file-uploads :D
138: [10:48:35] <lck_> ah. Good to know. I starred it. Thx alot :)
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145: [12:34:14] <jonners99> Howdy, I want to create my own reports, however, the default reports are not relevant to my project, can these be deactivated somehow?
146: [12:34:55] <jonners99> I guess the "default" ones are created by CMS
147: [12:41:39] <jonners99> Found it, can add something like this to _config.php: SS_Report::add_excluded_reports(['BrokenFilesReport', 'BrokenLinksReport']);
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150: [13:21:41] <wmk> jonners99, good to know ;)
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153: [13:25:18] <ss-helper> Hood: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
154: [13:26:55] <Hood> I have a form were a user can submit their CV. I have created a modeladmin for viewing the formsubmissions. But isn't there an easy way to download the uploaded CV (PDF) directly from the modeladmin detail view? Rather than crossreferencing by name in the files?
155: [13:28:04] <wmk> !paste Hood
156: [13:28:04] <ss-helper> Hood: Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
157: [13:29:58] <wmk> Hood, is the pdf saved in a has_one File ?
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159: [13:30:30] <Hood> Nothing special https://gist.github.com/hoodweb/c9ac537ed967bd285d0db1dcdc9d87d1
160: [13:33:19] <wmk> well, you can use $summary_fields for showing the link to the CV
161: [13:34:12] <Hood> Hmm i suppose. Do you know the shorthand by memory? CV.URL?
162: [13:34:32] <wmk> well, i'd use a getter method that outputs the html for the link
163: [13:35:16] <Hood> True i would too.
164: [13:35:21] <wmk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-File.html#_getURL to get the URL
165: [13:36:37] <wmk> you could also make a grid column provider with a fancy icon, but for the beginning I'd stick with summary fields.
166: [13:36:47] <Hood> One more thing: I do not want my admin to edit the submissions. But adding ->makeReadonly() to the scaffolding doesn't seem to do the trick. Would i have to create every single field for this to work?
167: [13:38:13] <wmk> there are FormTransformations for making a form readonly. you can overwrite ModelAdmin's getEditForm() method
168: [13:39:12] <wmk> $form->transformTo(new ReadonlyTransformation()) should make it readonly
169: [13:39:45] <wmk> You might also test if it works when you modify canEdit() in that submissionDO
170: [13:39:51] <wmk> then you can maybe view it and not edit
171: [13:40:12] <wmk> but... when you don't want to edit DOs, a ModelAdmin fits not 100%
172: [13:40:33] <wmk> you might look at Reports then, those are readonly by default
173: [13:42:05] <Hood> I might do yes. But for now i might look into making it readonly :)
174: [13:42:11] <Hood> Thank you :-)
175: [13:43:29] <wmk> well, that what I'd do ;)
176: [13:48:28] <Hood> I do appreciate it, I take screenshots of such tips, and will remember it in future projects, where my budget is not so limited :-)
177: [13:49:11] <Hood> I am trying however to do a makeReadonly() on the scaffolded fieldslist i get from DataObject parent class. But doesn't seem to work. so might have to try to do it on modeladmin-level
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179: [14:08:46] <wmk> hmm... Hood ....
180: [14:08:49] <wmk> !debug Hood
181: [14:08:49] <ss-helper> Hood: Maybe it's time to start xdebug and see whats going on... check out http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/developer_guides/debugging/ and http://xdebug.org/docs/
182: [14:09:31] <wmk> I like that readonly transformations when i e.g. show the results of a Contact Form to the user after he pressed "send"
183: [14:10:59] <Hood> Seems like a good idea. This is in the backend though. I can ofc make a lot of ReadonlyFields but would be nice if i could just ->makeReadonly() on the scaffolding hehe :-) I'll figure out a way. And i've put xdebug on my tohavelist hehe
184: [14:11:31] <wmk> Hood, we talked about xdebug at last StripeConEU
185: [14:11:46] <wmk> Slides are here: https://speakerdeck.com/wernerkrauss/debug-silverstripe-like-a-pro
186: [14:11:59] <wmk> incl. a voucher for a nail
187: [14:13:33] <wmk> Zauberfisch, do you know if videos of conf are already online?
188: [14:15:10] <gamma> Hey. Quick question. We want to be able to either have an image or HTML in a certain field in the admin panel. Is there any easy way to do this? I was thinking of just having an either/or thing where it would show the HTML if it's filled in and the image if it wasn't. However, the required fields list already includes the image. I'm just wondering if it would be possible to make it so that you can
189: [14:15:11] <gamma> require either one or the other field, along with the text field that's already there? I'm not sure how well I've phrased this question thuogh
190: [14:15:13] <gamma> though*
191: [14:16:44] <wmk> gamma, uncle cheese's DisplayIf module for showing / hiding fields
192: [14:16:54] <wmk> and maybe ZenValidator for more fine grained requirements
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195: [14:24:42] <SH__> Does anyone here have any experience with silverstripe-queuedjobs module?
196: [14:25:49] <kinglozzer> A tiny amount, where I wrote a task for someone else so I didn't set up how the tasks are triggered on the server :P
197: [14:27:24] <marvanni> just with a cron
198: [14:27:54] <SH__> I cant seem to figure out how to set it up to simply look for certain pages and publish them
199: [14:28:10] <SH__> I installed this module aswell https://github.com/silverstripe-scienceninjas/embargoexpiry
200: [14:30:56] <SH__> There's https://github.com/micschk/silverstripe-softscheduler aswell, which seems quicker to set up
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231: [18:20:59] <__will> hello
232: [18:21:12] <__will> i've added a link field to my model
233: [18:21:19] <__will> static $has_one = array ( 'SearchJumpLink' => 'SiteTree' );
234: [18:21:47] <__will> then on a search page i want to redirect to that link if the record has one
235: [18:22:00] <__will> i don't seem to be able to access it.
236: [18:23:23] <__will> eg $record = MyModel::get()->filter(array('Title' => $tag))->first(); return $this->redirect($record->SearchJumpLink);
237: [18:35:21] <Stomach> $record->SearchJumpLink()->Link()
238: [18:49:29] <__will> yes!
239: [18:49:52] <__will> thanks @Stomach ! tried all sorts of combinations and couldn't quite get it.
240: [18:50:00] <Stomach> no worries :)
241: [18:50:18] <__will> whats the best way to check if the jumpLink field is populated? it's defaulting to "/"
242: [18:55:22] <__will> if ($care_tag->SearchJumpLink()){ seems good
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256: [20:28:51] <zippy> morning
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264: [21:05:14] <Shrike_Finland> Good evening
265: [21:05:34] <Shrike_Finland> Could someone check this code: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/57b5b0510bcb0
266: [21:07:07] <Shrike_Finland> I'm using gridfieldextensions-module and OrderableRows, but sorting is not working
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268: [21:14:35] <Pyromanik> wew, first earthquakes, now floods!
269: [21:15:54] <Shrike_Finland> Where?
270: [21:30:40] <zippy> Pyromanik: all going on eh!
271: [21:30:44] <zippy> Pyromanik: you guys all good?
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273: [21:37:32] <Pyromanik> Shrike_Finland, WLG, NZ
274: [21:37:41] <Pyromanik> zippy, uhh, yeh mostly eh
275: [21:37:46] <Pyromanik> zippy, long time no see son!
276: [21:38:02] <zippy> yea been a while!
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279: [21:41:36] <samsam> anyone experience with googlesitemaps mod by willr?
280: [21:41:46] <samsam> doesn't seem to work with ss 3.4
281: [21:46:06] <Pyromanik> Normally it's plug and play
282: [21:46:14] <Pyromanik> yourdomain.tld/sitemap.xml
283: [21:46:29] <samsam> hmm :/
284: [21:46:29] <Shrike_Finland> Is there some error on my function, as in the template ordering is not printing right: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/57b5b0510bcb0
285: [21:57:14] <Shrike_Finland> Or is the problem originating from DataExtension instead of the page?
286: [21:59:52] <zippy> Shrike_Finland: Maybe look at ?showqueries=1 on your page and check the query
287: [22:01:42] <Pyromanik> samsam, 3.4 _should_ only be feature additions and bug fixes, iirc (see 'semver')
288: [22:04:28] <samsam> I see, I just tested the module on both a tweaked and a clean SS 3.4.1 install
289: [22:04:30] <Shrike_Finland> Does not seem to find sorting
290: [22:05:02] <Pyromanik> samsam, does it work on an earlier version?
291: [22:05:18] <samsam> going to test that now :)
292: [22:06:11] <Shrike_Finland> Sorting have worked before, but tehere might be some changes on core or gridfieldextensions-module.
293: [22:10:41] <Pyromanik> samsam, it's probably just not been updated in quite some time
294: [22:10:53] <Pyromanik> zippy, so watcha been up to?
295: [22:11:04] <samsam> I just got an email back from the author, he says it should be compatible :p
296: [22:12:43] <Pyromanik> oh neat
297: [22:12:57] <Pyromanik> wilr is a good chap.
298: [22:13:07] <Pyromanik> samsam, are you getting any errors?
299: [22:13:16] <samsam> I agree, he contributed a lot
300: [22:13:24] <samsam> no errors
301: [22:13:38] <samsam> just installed another version of the mod, going to test
302: [22:13:58] <Pyromanik> none, or just hidden? Ensure site is in dev mode and php.ini allows errors to be shown :>
303: [22:14:15] <Pyromanik> also, how do you know it's not working?
304: [22:14:32] <zippy> Pyromanik: busy. Hows NZ life treating you?
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306: [22:14:54] <Pyromanik> Shrike_Finland, check your database, ensure your ButtonItems have the SortOrder set on their relational join table
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308: [22:15:08] <Pyromanik> zippy, well, it has it's... _UPS AND DOWNS_
309: [22:15:14] <Pyromanik> xD
310: [22:15:17] <zippy> hahah
311: [22:15:20] <zippy> Stomach: o/
312: [22:15:25] <Pyromanik> \o Stomach
313: [22:15:40] <Pyromanik> zippy, how is it being so close to Seddon?
314: [22:15:50] <Pyromanik> well... closer.
315: [22:15:51] <samsam> Pyromanik: it's in dev mode, no errors at all. The mod should add some stuff to the settings tab but it's doesn't
316: [22:15:52] <zippy> mmm I think wellington is probably a bit closer
317: [22:15:59] <Pyromanik> samsam, are you sure?
318: [22:16:09] <samsam> about dev mode or the tab?
319: [22:16:15] <Pyromanik> last I knew it, it didn't. Just visit yoursite/sitemap.xml
320: [22:16:22] <Pyromanik> tab :P
321: [22:16:24] <Stomach> hiiiii
322: [22:16:25] <Stomach> o\
323: [22:16:27] <samsam> tried that :(
324: [22:16:31] <Pyromanik> ok
325: [22:16:42] <Pyromanik> so what is the version of the module you're using (or just a link?)
326: [22:16:43] <zippy> samsam: you have installed it via composer or zip? check the folders.. maybe it's in a folder in a folder
327: [22:16:59] <samsam> zip, it's a remote server and doesn't have composer unfortunately
328: [22:17:21] <samsam> also, it doesn't physically write a sitemap.xml file
329: [22:17:26] <samsam> it's just a route
330: [22:17:50] <Pyromanik> samsam, yeh, I know. That's how it works.
331: [22:18:03] <zippy> I know, what I mean is maybe it's in a folder like /sitemapmodule/silverstripe-sitemapmodule/_config/ because you put the zip in a folder and then unzip it again. so just check the path
332: [22:18:06] <Pyromanik> did you dev/build?flush ?
333: [22:18:06] <samsam> the ss installation is in a subfolder: domain.com/subfolder
334: [22:18:09] <samsam> i wonder if that matters
335: [22:18:16] <samsam> Pyromanik: absolutely
336: [22:18:18] <Pyromanik> samsam, SS shouldn't care where it is.
337: [22:18:24] <Pyromanik> but googlesitemaps might.
338: [22:18:51] <Pyromanik> samsam, so you need to check domain.tld/subfolder/sitemap.xml
339: [22:20:07] <Pyromanik> oh
340: [22:20:08] <Pyromanik> haha
341: [22:20:09] <samsam> Pyromanik: 404 :/
342: [22:20:09] <Pyromanik> uhh
343: [22:20:23] <Pyromanik> samsam, what version did you download a zip of?
344: [22:20:24] <samsam> zippy: mod folder is in root of SS
345: [22:20:35] <samsam> 1.1
346: [22:20:36] <samsam> https://github.com/wilr/silverstripe-googlesitemaps/tree/1.1
347: [22:20:47] <Pyromanik> hmm
348: [22:20:50] <Pyromanik> 4 years old
349: [22:21:11] <zippy> samsam: you did the dev/build on the subfolder path right. so domain.com/subfolder/dev/build?flush
350: [22:21:18] <Pyromanik> samsam, https://github.com/wilr/silverstripe-googlesitemaps/tree/1.5.1/code
351: [22:21:20] <samsam> absolutely
352: [22:21:35] <Pyromanik> tags my friend, versions are in tags.
353: [22:21:53] <samsam> hehe yes, I tried that one first, but willr said I should try 1.1
354: [22:21:58] <samsam> going to test 1.5.1 again
355: [22:22:02] <Pyromanik> well, I guess he would know.
356: [22:22:05] * Pyromanik shrugs
357: [22:22:25] <samsam> by the way, appreciate the rescue squad here
358: [22:26:29] <samsam> Pyromanik: newest version works
359: [22:26:46] <samsam> :-)
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361: [22:27:47] <Pyromanik> samsam, uhh, 'newest version'?
362: [22:27:57] <samsam> 1.5.1
363: [22:28:03] <Pyromanik> oh, neat! :)
364: [22:28:19] <samsam> check this sitemap out though
365: [22:28:21] <samsam> http://blauwboom.nl/latent/sitemap.xml
366: [22:28:23] <samsam> doesn't look too good
367: [22:28:53] * Pyromanik shrugs
368: [22:29:22] <Pyromanik> > Flush this route to ensure the changes take effect with: http://yoursite.com/sitemap.xml?flush=1
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373: [23:00:04] <Pyromanik> success samsam ?
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375: [23:00:20] <samsam> Pyromanik: nope :(
376: [23:00:24] <samsam> https://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/all-other-modules/show/119035
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380: [23:13:05] <spronk> WHOS BEEN WATCHING WESTWORLD?
381: [23:13:48] <Pyromanik> who?
382: [23:16:31] <spronk> westworld
383: [23:16:32] <spronk> you know
384: [23:16:37] <spronk> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475784/?ref_=ttep_ep_tt
385: [23:16:39] <Pyromanik> I do?
386: [23:16:41] <Pyromanik> No I don't.
387: [23:16:45] <spronk> you should know, it's fucking amazing
388: [23:16:58] <Pyromanik> Your mum's fucking amazing
389: [23:17:18] <spronk> ikr
390: [23:17:26] <Pyromanik> R!
391: [23:17:28] <spronk> but srs, should watch, it's amazing
392: [23:17:34] <spronk> Jonothan Nolan written
393: [23:17:41] <Pyromanik> "Adobe Flash Player is required to watch this video."
394: [23:17:43] <Pyromanik> ffs
395: [23:17:45] <spronk> (i.e. guy who wrote interstellar, and the screenplays for the dark knight movies)
396: [23:17:46] <Pyromanik> you let me down imdb
397: [23:17:52] <Pyromanik> ... and Opera 12.1 xD
398: [23:18:14] <spronk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX3u0IlBBO4
399: [23:19:32] <spronk> hbo is hitting it out of the park lately
400: [23:19:36] <samsam> You should watch Silicon Valley
401: [23:19:39] <samsam> <3
402: [23:19:45] <spronk> ^^ samsam indeed
403: [23:20:35] <Pyromanik> yeh, looks pretty intense spronk
404: [23:20:59] <spronk> probably the second best show on tv atm after GoT
405: [23:22:03] <spronk> hopkins is superb in it
406: [23:22:39] <Pyromanik> OH yeah, Humans
407: [23:22:47] <Pyromanik> That looked pretty intense.
408: [23:22:55] <spronk> mm, Humans is pretty good
409: [23:22:56] <Pyromanik> Watched an ep or so when I was in the UK
410: [23:23:04] <spronk> lots of ... robot / AI stuff lately
411: [23:23:09] <Pyromanik> mmm
412: [23:23:15] * spronk is still sad that Almost Human was cancelled :(
413: [23:23:28] <Pyromanik> People back on that whole 'robot conciousness' thing
414: [23:23:41] <Pyromanik> although the latest round is a bit deeper than Skynet :P
415: [23:23:55] <Pyromanik> a lot of shows probing that area.
416: [23:24:01] <Pyromanik> Yeh almost human was pretty neat :>
417: [23:24:28] * spronk especailly liked the scene where Dorian was singing along to Elton John
418: [23:26:14] <Pyromanik> Yeh, the evoution of DRN was going some interesting places when it got canned :<
419: [23:26:36] * Stomach quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
420: [23:26:36] <spronk> "i did a bio scan and noticed your testicles were... at full capacity"
421: [23:26:41] * spronk roars with laughter
422: [23:26:51] * samsam quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
423: [23:30:46] <Pyromanik> SH1 more blocked than blocked now http://iforce.co.nz/i/mez0p3f3.xkp.png
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426: [23:35:18] <Pyromanik> SH2 northbound is flowing: http://iforce.co.nz/i/jnhcttwg.ogj.png
427: [23:36:03] <spronk> fark
428: [23:36:06] <spronk> how was the earthquake up there pyro
429: [23:36:09] <ss23> lol
430: [23:36:22] <spronk> GUT N SCHACKY?
431: [23:36:38] <spronk> where is that first roundlybout?
432: [23:36:50] <Pyromanik> SH1, Paremata
433: [23:36:53] <spronk> ah
434: [23:37:11] <spronk> that be some water
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436: [23:37:37] <Pyromanik> spronk, basically just like September
437: [23:38:50] <Pyromanik> Damage seems reasonably comparable too.
438: [23:39:15] <Pyromanik> Just hope there's no aftershock like Febuary :/
439: [23:42:38] <spronk> mm? interseting
440: [23:42:51] <spronk> felt quite different down here
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