#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 7 November 2016

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8: [00:53:06] <zippy> o/
9: [00:53:24] <DanaeNZ> zippy: \o
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11: [00:53:51] <zippy> hows everyone
12: [00:54:12] <ss23> sleepy
13: [00:54:16] <ss23> and I have a super sore throat :(
14: [00:54:35] <zippy> damn ss23 I haven't seen you in a while
15: [00:54:48] <ss23> I've been around!
16: [00:54:54] <ss23> Just not working with SilverStripe often these days
17: [00:55:01] <zippy> mm?
18: [00:57:15] <ss23> mm mm
19: [00:59:17] <DanaeNZ> I have a headache and feel nauseous
20: [00:59:24] <DanaeNZ> so a pretty normal day
21: [00:59:25] <DanaeNZ> lol
22: [00:59:30] <ss23> urgh, gross :(
23: [00:59:44] <ss23> I can handle headaches, but nausea I despise
24: [01:11:27] <Nightjar> gosh DanaeNZ gan get checked like
25: [01:11:31] <zippy> mm mm?
26: [01:11:46] <DanaeNZ> wat
27: [01:11:48] <Nightjar> mm mm mm.
28: [01:12:04] <zippy> anyone had any success with sharing a couple of tables between two installs?
29: [01:12:16] <zippy> I want a model to live on a different database
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31: [01:16:28] <Nightjar> fully qualify your queries.
32: [01:16:46] <zippy> FooObject::get();
33: [01:16:54] <Nightjar> or open a new connection, swap before exec DataList::get('datthing')
34: [01:16:54] <zippy> so need an alter query or something
35: [01:17:15] <Nightjar> either or
36: [01:17:30] <Nightjar> select database.table.field
37: [01:17:54] <Nightjar> as a query modifier, or just switch connections (probably easier)
38: [01:18:06] <zippy> might need to use a query modifier
39: [01:19:16] <Nightjar> same db server?
40: [01:19:24] <zippy> yeap
41: [01:19:35] <Nightjar> might be able to hack it, haha.
42: [01:19:39] <Nightjar> set up a view, etc.
43: [01:19:53] <Nightjar> or just extern the table
44: [01:19:54] <Nightjar> idk
45: [01:20:20] <zippy> the other thing which will make this a bit of a prick if going to be files
46: [01:20:21] <Nightjar> I'm sure there's some DB level wizardry that could be done, the trick then would be getting it to play nice with dev/build
47: [01:21:57] <DanaeNZ> An API be too slow?
48: [01:22:26] <zippy> and have the items show up in a DataGrid in the CMS admin?
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50: [01:27:43] <DanaeNZ> zippy: gotcha
51: [01:27:53] <zippy> sure is prickly..
52: [01:28:08] <zippy> might need a third app to handle the images and content, and then expose an api for other sites to use
53: [01:28:18] <DanaeNZ> zippy:
54: [01:28:20] <DanaeNZ> oops
55: [01:28:25] <DanaeNZ> don't mind me
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57: [01:42:00] <zippy> irogue o/
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59: [01:45:32] <irogue> sup zippy
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61: [01:46:41] <Nightjar> zippy, in _theory_ gridfield can handle any SS_List.
62: [01:46:45] <Nightjar> but that's a lie, don't believe it.
63: [01:47:01] <Nightjar> even if you give it an arraylist, it still expects the contents to all be DataObject of a single type.
64: [01:47:15] <Nightjar> (or a single parent type)
65: [01:47:43] <Nightjar> I've done what you're talking about before.
66: [01:47:54] <Nightjar> Possible... but not... simple.
67: [01:48:31] <Nightjar> _should_ be. But there are a fairly large amount of unexpected gotchas.
68: [01:49:20] <zippy> mmm I wonder how much fun multisites is to use
69: [01:49:31] <zippy> maybe could do that
70: [01:49:37] <zippy> but I feel that might open up more grief
71: [01:49:49] <zippy> probably why ss23 doesnb't do much SS anymore. Or is that subsites
72: [01:58:32] <irogue> subsites23
73: [02:00:03] <Nightjar> Don't ever multisites.
74: [02:00:21] <Nightjar> It's your time to shine spr... fuck he's not here!
75: [02:00:30] <Nightjar> spronk! WE NEED YOU
76: [02:00:37] <Nightjar> Send up the Subsites rage signal!
77: [02:03:48] <Nightjar> subshites
78: [02:04:11] <Nightjar> After you slip it some H ;d
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81: [02:17:29] * Hailwood vomits at the size of the validate function in ConfirmedPasswordField
82: [02:19:08] <DanaeNZ> my headachey brain can't figure it out
83: [02:19:24] <DanaeNZ> I want to select all the distinct values on a manymany table
84: [02:19:32] <DanaeNZ> ie; many_many_extraFields
85: [02:19:52] <DanaeNZ> where the ID of one of the model tables is a specific ID
86: [02:20:06] <DanaeNZ> apparently can't left join on the query and select the extrafields column
87: [02:24:45] <Nightjar> extrafields automagic'd onto relation getter
88: [02:24:51] <Nightjar> afaik
89: [02:24:54] <Nightjar> so just filter them
90: [02:25:10] <Nightjar> GROUP BY "hotchocolate_and_sex"
91: [02:28:37] <DanaeNZ> oh it magic
92: [02:28:59] <DanaeNZ> $this->[BelongsManyRelation]()->column([Whatever])
93: [02:30:50] <DanaeNZ> then just have to distinct
94: [02:31:47] <DanaeNZ> array_unique i mean
95: [02:36:28] <Nightjar> yeh or like ->distinct()
96: [02:36:36] <Nightjar> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.4/class-DataList.html#_distinct
97: [02:37:00] <Hailwood> Hmm, anyone know how to make ConfirmedPasswordField required?
98: [02:37:21] <Hailwood> I know you can set canBeEmpty to false which does it serverside, but I want it to add the required attribute as well
99: [02:37:25] <Nightjar> hmm, or not, because shithead column() returns array :<
100: [02:37:46] <Nightjar> ->addAttribute() ? :P
101: [02:37:55] <Nightjar> dunno Hailwood tbh.
102: [02:38:15] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: yeah I just did array_unique
103: [02:38:33] <Nightjar> yeh. Just y'know... cycles :s
104: [02:38:48] <DanaeNZ> Hailwood: I think there's a getter for the second field
105: [02:38:57] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: cycles?
106: [02:38:57] <Nightjar> But hey, #result whateve :> \o/
107: [02:39:02] <Nightjar> dem cpu ones.
108: [02:39:14] <irogue> urrrghghghghg
109: [02:39:14] <irogue> fibre install can't come soon enough
110: [02:39:14] <pippy> subsites (puke)
111: [02:39:30] <irogue> ADSL at home goes to complete crap when it rains
112: [02:39:44] <DanaeNZ> speaking of
113: [02:39:57] <DanaeNZ> i need to make this ecommerce site show different prices
114: [02:40:02] <DanaeNZ> on a different domain
115: [02:40:06] <DanaeNZ> but not use subsites
116: [02:40:15] <DanaeNZ> i wanna die
117: [02:40:25] <DanaeNZ> and it's not simple currency conversion either
118: [02:40:36] <DanaeNZ> it's different DPS details and completely arbitrary prices
119: [02:40:56] <Hailwood> irogue: Where are you from?
120: [02:42:21] <irogue> Hailwood: welly
121: [02:42:43] <Hailwood> Ah, thought you might be Napier since it started raining about 2 minutes before you said that
122: [02:45:06] <ss-helper> SilverStripe StaticPublishQueue modul's task SiteTreeFullBuildEngine doesn't work - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40206204/silverstripe-staticpublishqueue-moduls-task-sitetreefullbuildengine-doesnt-wor
123: [02:52:09] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, just like, iff domain === yofase.nz ; den dodat ; done
124: [02:53:12] <DanaeNZ> but then Variations come into play
125: [02:53:21] <DanaeNZ> where the price can vary further
126: [02:53:35] <DanaeNZ> I was thinking of extending the Currency field
127: [02:53:45] <Nightjar> idk, adapt fluent?
128: [02:54:06] <DanaeNZ> Fluent? Is that kinda like Translatable?
129: [02:54:08] <Hailwood> Oh DanaeNZ I can help with the different DPS details
130: [02:54:09] <Nightjar> ssshop not do it for you?
131: [02:54:13] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, yep.
132: [02:54:19] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: nope
133: [02:54:21] <Nightjar> but... translatable basically subsites.
134: [02:54:27] <Nightjar> fluent different.
135: [02:54:37] <DanaeNZ> also Translatable gives you only the options of languages where this is like counrties
136: [02:54:37] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, swipestripe did that sorta thing.
137: [02:54:39] <Nightjar> iirc
138: [02:54:41] <DanaeNZ> Hailwood: oh do tell
139: [02:54:51] <Nightjar> gridfield up all the prices, etc.
140: [02:54:53] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: oo, I will take a sneaky
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142: [02:55:06] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, but swipestripe old now.
143: [02:55:09] <DanaeNZ> yeah
144: [02:55:14] <DanaeNZ> I'm using SIlverShop
145: [02:55:17] <Nightjar> adapt the shiz, give it to ssshowp
146: [02:55:20] <DanaeNZ> yup
147: [02:55:27] <DanaeNZ> I'm working on some modules
148: [02:55:43] <DanaeNZ> may as well add some more
149: [02:55:57] <DanaeNZ> this is too much to think of with headache brain
150: [02:57:35] <DanaeNZ> hmm there is swipestripe currency but that's the same as silvershop currency
151: [02:57:41] <DanaeNZ> works off exchange rates
152: [02:57:46] <DanaeNZ> (static ones)
153: [03:00:06] <ss-helper> Custom routing and handling form submission - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40457119/custom-routing-and-handling-form-submission
154: [03:08:25] <Hailwood> DanaeNZ: http://kopy.io/6axCt
155: [03:08:56] <Nightjar> gg folks
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157: [03:09:02] <DanaeNZ> Hailwood: oo fanfuckentastick
158: [03:09:12] <DanaeNZ> oh god can't spell anything today
159: [03:09:15] <DanaeNZ> too headache
160: [03:09:22] <DanaeNZ> anyway that is an excellent solution
161: [03:09:30] <Hailwood> DanaeNZ: I spent like 4 hours working that shit out last week ha
162: [03:10:01] <DanaeNZ> now I don't have too
163: [03:10:05] <DanaeNZ> haha thanks heaps
164: [03:11:54] <DanaeNZ> although - I can get away with using an ENV value or something cos it doesn't need to change halfway through the payment process
165: [03:15:07] <Hailwood> DanaeNZ: For my usecase I had to switch the payment gateways depending on whether the user had a standard product or a ticket in their cart
166: [03:16:55] <DanaeNZ> phewww
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175: [05:09:21] <MichalKleiner> heya, how's it going eveyone
176: [05:11:13] <MichalKleiner> quick question - I have a non-canonical URL to a page, is there a way how I can get a page ID by the relative path? I went through docs for Director, Controller, SiteTree.. but can't seem to be able to find something like handle a URL by string but just not render it
177: [05:11:34] <MichalKleiner> something like Director::test, but that renders the page
178: [05:12:33] <irogue> MichalKleiner: what do you mean by a non-canonical URL - is it not the URLSegment?
179: [05:13:22] <MichalKleiner> for example virtual pages..
180: [05:14:06] <MichalKleiner> or custom routing or similar.. in the sitetree, it would be A/B/C, but it's accessible on D/E.. and I need to get a page ID based on D/E
181: [05:14:40] <irogue> ok
182: [05:14:52] <MichalKleiner> so I can filter sitetree by urlsegment for C, but not for D/E
183: [05:15:24] <MichalKleiner> Director::test is the closest I found..
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185: [05:24:04] <irogue> hmm, yeah. for a custom route this seems difficult.
186: [05:25:46] <MichalKleiner> I'm trying to figure out what's happening inside handleAction, if I could re-use some code from there maybe..
187: [05:26:08] <MichalKleiner> basically I need all the handling/routing to happen, and give me the resulting sitetree/page object/ID
188: [05:27:40] <irogue> yeah, its a pity handleAction isn't split out into a static resolveAction method or something
189: [05:27:58] <irogue> to just resolve it to the correct Page/Controller and return that info
190: [05:29:32] <MichalKleiner> yeah, that would be what I need.. well, I'll keep looking, might extract that somehow
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194: [06:07:51] <Quatrepee> hey guys, what's the best way to let a user pick another page in the cms, i want to be able to let the user specify an existing page of a certian type, for linking from the current page (specifically StoryPage -> TriviaPage) where I have a bunch of trivia that i want to link to any story the user wants
195: [06:08:12] <Quatrepee> figured i can make a dropdown of all existing triviapage instances for them to select frm in a StoryPage instance, but i haven't done this before
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198: [06:45:10] <ss-helper> Silverstripe 3.4 - WYSIWYG editor not showing 2nd step for inserting link - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40459246/silverstripe-3-4-wysiwyg-editor-not-showing-2nd-step-for-inserting-link
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272: [18:48:04] <ss-helper> UbHmsXPMIgm: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
273: [18:48:10] <UbHmsXPMIgm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893, https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23561, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-foundation-idUSKBN12Z2SL & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774 (ctrl+f qatar) - please don't let these be buried
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276: [18:52:03] <ss-helper> q42: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
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278: [19:00:22] <lexandclo> hi can someone help me with a short code error?
279: [19:04:44] <q42> Is this the correct channel to ask a question about a SilverStripe 3.x issue where things all seem fine except the Insert Media button in the TinyMCE toolbar on a pages content pane pops up an empty window? I see a 500 Internal Error in the browser console however nothing in server side logs.
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282: [19:12:43] <helenclarko> Good morning!
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291: [20:07:59] <Hailwood> Morning folks
292: [20:08:16] <muskie9> o/
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294: [20:22:57] <DanaeNZ> Heyo
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296: [20:27:07] <muskie9> two things on the list to learn now for SS4... react and graphql 😳
297: [20:27:20] <muskie9> among other things...
298: [20:27:25] <Hailwood> I am looking forward to graphql
299: [20:28:02] <muskie9> sounds powerful, but the learning part is gonna take a while for me, me thinks
300: [20:28:33] <Hailwood> React is pretty darn easy to pick up.
301: [20:29:13] <muskie9> ya, I did some basic tuts for it, then overreached on a project... had to ditch it for the time being 😞
302: [20:29:23] <muskie9> gonna circle back to it soon though
303: [20:29:59] <Hailwood> Truth be told, I'd prefer us to be using vuejs since it intermingles with your templates rather than being a black box that you can't touch without messing with the JS
304: [20:30:50] <muskie9> I'll have to check that one out now too ;P
305: [20:32:15] <Hailwood> Ha it's also pretty easy
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309: [20:51:57] <helenclarko> Hey everyone. Can someone point me in the right direction. I need to work out how to create a link that changes the order of a loop on a page.
310: [20:52:31] <helenclarko> I dont know if that makes any sense. I'm obviously not thinking this through correctly.
311: [20:53:02] <helenclarko> As an example, im trying to recreate this page: http://themes.hody.co/dylan/portfolio-boxed-3-columns/
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314: [20:54:23] <helenclarko> The dataobject for each box will have a dropdown to set type (Branding, Packaging, Web design)
315: [20:55:20] <helenclarko> Clicking on a link needs to show a new list based on the filter. What's the best way.
316: [20:58:35] <muskie9> helenclarko https://media.giphy.com/media/VHngktboAlxHW/giphy.gif
317: [20:59:35] <helenclarko> Im working on something at the moment
318: [20:59:43] <helenclarko> Just needed more brain power
319: [21:00:26] <muskie9> what about something like this: https://www.silverstripe.org/learn/lessons/ajax-behaviour-and-viewabledata
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324: [21:35:56] <Hailwood> Anyone integrated silverstripe with mediawiki?
325: [21:36:34] <Hailwood> Specifically the signon
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334: [22:32:03] <spronk> waaatup
335: [22:32:41] <muskie9> csv bulk loader needs better error handling
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338: [22:41:14] <muskie9> dumb question from a US person... who was never good at geography... is England a country, and the reason I ask is I'm using the same source as the CountryDropdownField to reference some things and United Kingdom is in the list, but not England
339: [22:41:32] <muskie9> there are other countries as well in that bunch, but this is the first one I noticed
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360: [23:55:56] <DanaeNZ> Time to tackle this multiple pricing problem I guess
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