#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 12 October 2016

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1: [00:00:22] <Nightjar> bre... honestly. What's the deficit to leaving the client open?
2: [00:00:59] <Hailwood> vitaly_, If that's the issue then the only "fix" is to work out what's clogging your state and reduce it
3: [00:01:03] <Nightjar> in any case maxlength on HTMLEditorFields!? o.0 that's like... MediumText - >2Mb of text! iirc
4: [00:02:23] <Nightjar> in any case I believe it's some configuration option (as in Config::inst())
5: [00:02:28] <Nightjar> yml, etc.
6: [00:05:54] <Hailwood> I'm real curious if anyone is using SS4 in production yet? I probably wouldn't but I'm just curious
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8: [00:23:18] <Nightjar> I can neither confirm nor deny.
9: [00:23:39] <Nightjar> well, I can, but I'm not going to. Ask the folks at the meetup tomorrow ;)
10: [00:23:43] <Nightjar> Hailwood, ^
11: [00:24:09] <Hailwood> Nightjar, You mean the meetup.. in the Hawkes Bay right :d
12: [00:24:24] <Nightjar> wait, I thought you were in Christchurch
13: [00:25:18] <Hailwood> Nightjar, Nah, Napier
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15: [00:30:36] <Nightjar> vitaly_, check your server logs, find out what's happening.
16: [00:30:40] <Nightjar> is it dying?
17: [00:30:50] <Nightjar> error.log, etc.
18: [00:42:06] <vitaly_> Nightjar: hmm, don't see any errors in it related to the issue.
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35: [02:39:16] <Hailwood> Anyone know how to stop Silverstripe being retarded and leaving behind an empty tab if you manually create a gridfield for a relationship in a different tab?
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37: [02:46:26] <Bollig|DesignCty> Hailwood: god that’s annoying!
38: [02:46:33] <Bollig|DesignCty> let me see if I can dig up some code that deals with that
39: [02:51:41] <Hailwood> Thanks Bollig|DesignCty
40: [03:00:00] <Bollig|DesignCty> can you send a clip of your cmsfields function Hailwood?
41: [03:00:10] <ss-helper> Some Digital Ocean to Dropbox backup scripts - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/ZvwNX7298b0/MwcxHCEWAgAJ
42: [03:00:24] <Bollig|DesignCty> I’m trying to find it in my many many many directories ;)
43: [03:02:03] <Hailwood> Bollig|DesignCty: http://kopy.io/JUvY0
44: [03:07:54] <Bollig|DesignCty> hmmm, never used beforeUpdateCMSFields before I don't think…
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47: [03:13:48] <Hailwood> Bollig|DesignCty: really? I use it everywhere
48: [03:14:16] <Bollig|DesignCty> looks like I’m behind the times! What’s the benefit?
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50: [03:29:16] <Bollig|DesignCty> I think outr issue was something to do with changing the placement after an extension, so it’s probably a different thing altogether—sorry :(
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52: [03:31:12] <Hailwood> No problemo
53: [03:31:42] <Hailwood> Didn't userforms used to have an uploadfield?
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55: [03:34:32] <Hailwood> Hmm, it's there in the code, just not showing in the dropdown list of fields. Any ideas?
56: [03:36:15] <Bollig|DesignCty> upload field requires the securefiles module, do you have that?
57: [03:36:34] <Hailwood> Bollig|DesignCty: Nope, That makes sense. It never used to :|
58: [03:36:53] <Bollig|DesignCty> yeah, although I think it’s been like that for a while, maybe 3?
59: [03:39:14] <Hailwood> mmm, we only recently upgraded from v2 -> v4 because we have our own wrapper around it (because replacing the content with the thank you message and just leaving the form blank is retarded...) heh.
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120: [10:48:51] <r3v3rb> morning, lovely weather :)
121: [10:49:27] <slievr> mornin' r3v3rb
122: [10:50:04] <r3v3rb> slievr, morning :) I fixed all that permission stuff with a little help from your paste :)
123: [10:50:41] <slievr> woo, glad to know I can actually be helpful.
124: [10:50:52] <r3v3rb> lol, i know that feeling
125: [10:51:14] <r3v3rb> then had major issues with a route that worked in 3.2 but failed in 3.4
126: [10:51:32] <r3v3rb> which is also fixed
127: [10:52:16] <r3v3rb> so I now have a custom login route and core system that only shows elements from the logged in users group for all DO and Files/Folders so a true 'multi-user' setup
128: [10:52:59] <r3v3rb> which i think is how it should be - there could be an option on each group to disable global access to files/folders etc
129: [10:53:16] <slievr> securefiles module does it I'm sure
130: [10:54:52] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Just FYI - the "Folder" dropdown inside an UploadField's "choose an existing file" doesn't respect canView() for folders (if you've implemented that on folders)
131: [10:55:23] <r3v3rb> well Folders are accessible to all - just not their contents kinglozzer ;)
132: [10:55:25] <kinglozzer> Probably not an issue (they can't actually choose a file from there, just see that it exists), but something I've come across before
133: [10:55:33] <kinglozzer> ^^ fair enough :D
134: [10:55:56] <r3v3rb> slievr, secureassets does but also secures folders
135: [10:56:20] <r3v3rb> the folders in this system are generic and a user can't create a new one. but they can store files in each
136: [10:56:35] <slievr> yeah, adding that in after development is awful. so many images break.
137: [10:57:03] <r3v3rb> so I have xyz folders - which can accept files from any user, but only display the images for that 'group'
138: [10:57:35] <r3v3rb> so a company could have five logins, each login can upload and their files are accessible to all members of that company
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152: [13:00:01] <DarjusIT> Hi all
153: [13:00:23] <wmk> ho
154: [13:02:45] <DarjusIT> maybe some one could help me I pade PageSearch.ss that has body tags and head tags and has $Layout var in it but then I make renderWith(array('DateSubPage', 'PageSearch')); DateSubPage donot loads DateSubPage.ss?
155: [13:03:49] <DarjusIT> DateSubPage.ss is in Layout directory PageSearch.ss is in templates
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157: [13:07:47] <kinglozzer> Ugh, why did I choose "Components" as a model name :(
158: [13:07:56] <kinglozzer> Should've known that would conflict
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160: [13:12:31] <DarjusIT> yes its sucks I was in that situation 100 times, kinglozzer
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167: [13:57:40] <cupcake> ola 0/
168: [14:08:38] <slievr> ello o/
169: [14:08:56] <slievr> (I have a somewhat smaller head it seems)
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176: [14:49:21] <samsam> If anyone has an idea on this: https://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/118694
177: [14:49:25] <samsam> please share!
178: [14:51:24] <muskie9> samsam sounds sort of like https://github.com/sheadawson/silverstripe-dependentdropdownfield
179: [14:51:57] <samsam> Cool!!
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181: [14:52:36] <samsam> Have you used it before?
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183: [14:52:55] <slievr> can I ask why the different display names?
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185: [14:53:12] <muskie9> samsam we have, works well in the cms
186: [14:53:55] <samsam> muskie9 thanks for sharing, this will help me a lot. Looks simple too
187: [14:54:09] <samsam> If you want, you can post it in my thread for future reads or I will do it
188: [14:54:19] <muskie9> just did 👍
189: [14:55:11] <samsam> Here's something else..
190: [14:55:15] <samsam> https://tools.pingdom.com/#!/elpWzn/http://www.silverstripe.org/
191: [14:55:37] <samsam> SilverStripe's official website load time is 5.25s
192: [14:56:57] <samsam> Makes me wonder to what extend performance was a criteria when building SS, awesome framework but I had to rent a pricy dedicated server for performance
193: [14:57:25] <muskie9> it's gotten better over the years... did you work in the 2.4.x version of the framework at all?
194: [14:57:32] <muskie9> **was called sapphire back then
195: [14:58:26] <samsam> I've never worked with 2.x
196: [14:58:33] <muskie9> it was slow lol
197: [14:58:40] <muskie9> and clunky
198: [14:58:47] <samsam> lol glad I skipped it, otherwise I'd diverted off to Umbraco
199: [14:59:06] <muskie9> ss4 has had a lot of focus on performance, should be noticable
200: [14:59:17] <samsam> I'm eagerly waiting for the release
201: [14:59:22] <slievr> ^
202: [14:59:52] <slievr> php7 compatible right?
203: [14:59:53] <muskie9> I played w/the first alpha and it was reeeeealy fast, but buggy obviously... haven't gotten around to alpha2 yet though
204: [14:59:57] <samsam> indeed
205: [15:00:01] <muskie9> slievr yesser
206: [15:00:12] <slievr> that alone is going to be amazing
207: [15:00:23] <muskie9> absolutely
208: [15:00:28] <samsam> benchmarks indicate php7 is really fast
209: [15:02:39] <samsam> If I was less religous about PHP and Linux, I would work with Umbraco
210: [15:03:00] <samsam> Extremely flexible CMS built on C# (asp.net mvc)
211: [15:03:32] * muskie9 shudders at asp.net
212: [15:03:39] <samsam> lolol
213: [15:03:48] <slievr> I'd use django
214: [15:04:06] <samsam> keep hearing great stuff about django too
215: [15:04:12] <samsam> how come muskie9?
216: [15:04:17] <muskie9> bad experience with a large higher ed site in asp classic when I was in college... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxPshq8ERo
217: [15:04:37] <muskie9> so pretty much anything asp goes in one ear and out the other now lol
218: [15:04:49] <samsam> asp classic and asp.net are basically unrelated 99% but I can understand you're allergic now
219: [15:05:02] <samsam> LOL @ SP
220: [15:05:03] <muskie9> needs a name change
221: [15:05:47] <slievr> can't you run asp.net on linux with project mono, never tried myself
222: [15:06:01] <samsam> You can, but it's not quiet seamless yet
223: [15:06:52] <samsam> quite*
224: [15:07:39] <samsam> where are you guys from btw?
225: [15:07:46] <muskie9> wisconsin
226: [15:07:58] <slievr> UK
227: [15:08:09] <samsam> cool, had a gf there (wisconsin)
228: [15:08:14] <samsam> Amsterdam, holland
229: [15:08:26] <muskie9> damn! long distance relationship lol
230: [15:09:06] <samsam> lolol didn't last long for that reason
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232: [15:16:28] <slievr> samsam: been using that pingdom link to test some of my silverstripe sites I get from 995ms - 3.15s varying based on site complexity
233: [15:17:44] <samsam> I get 750ms for my SS site with heaviest homepage
234: [15:17:58] <samsam> I wonder why SS.org is so terribly slow
235: [15:18:02] <kinglozzer> ss.org is exceptionally slow ^^
236: [15:18:14] <kinglozzer> I have no idea why! :P
237: [15:18:25] <samsam> it should be the fastest SS site
238: [15:18:30] <kinglozzer> Agreed
239: [15:18:33] <samsam> cached to the last byte
240: [15:18:46] <slievr> i'd be happy if it was second to api.silverstripe
241: [15:19:11] <samsam> good point lol
242: [15:19:28] <kinglozzer> Mine score pretty well on that pingdom tool :D
243: [15:20:09] <slievr> I got an F for not combining my bower components =(
244: [15:20:55] <kinglozzer> https://tools.pingdom.com/#!/dlwYBR/https://www.bigfork.co.uk
245: [15:21:03] <kinglozzer> Static publisher ftw :P
246: [15:21:23] <samsam> Choose the right server (sweden for UK site)
247: [15:21:46] <samsam> 443ms for bigfork, not bad at all mate
248: [15:21:51] <slievr> https://tools.pingdom.com/#!/dtVU9k/slievr.com
249: [15:22:09] <samsam> We have a winner
250: [15:22:32] <samsam> 2.3 mb at 443 ms
251: [15:22:33] <samsam> hacks?
252: [15:23:20] <samsam> nice website slievr, very rich in content
253: [15:23:27] <slievr> is empty
254: [15:23:29] <slievr> I am lazy
255: [15:23:49] <slievr> mostly there for endpoints I use
256: [15:23:57] <slievr> slievr.com/error
257: [15:23:59] <slievr> is fun
258: [15:24:15] <samsam> lol
259: [15:24:19] <kinglozzer> https://www.bigfork.co.uk/asdf
260: [15:24:28] <kinglozzer> (I didn't write that) :P
261: [15:24:42] <slievr> I like it
262: [15:24:47] <samsam> lool
263: [15:25:10] <kinglozzer> https://www.bigfork.co.uk/assets/error-500.html
264: [15:25:14] <kinglozzer> I like SilverStripe's error page too
265: [15:25:25] <kinglozzer> https://www.silverstripe.org/asdf
266: [15:25:38] <samsam> they should make a special page for "asdf"
267: [15:25:42] <samsam> "Are you looking for our 404 page?"
268: [15:25:43] <slievr> sadly I've seen it too much
269: [15:25:55] <samsam> idem
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273: [15:56:18] <muskie9> what's the largest number of records for a single dataobject anyone's had at once (that queries are run off of)
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275: [15:57:39] <kinglozzer> muskie9: Biggest one I have is only ~20,000
276: [15:59:18] <muskie9> everything's dying probably because it's doing a distance calculation too 😞
277: [16:00:29] <muskie9> have about 42k records with geocoordinates
278: [16:00:57] <kinglozzer> Yeah if it's gonna calculate distance on every single row... :/
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280: [16:02:04] <kinglozzer> If they're spread out quite far geographically you could try pre-filtering them to only include ones that are within a few degrees?
281: [16:02:32] <kinglozzer> e.g. search for Lat of 10 will immediately discard any results with a lat under 8 or above 12?
282: [16:02:36] <muskie9> I think they're all pretty close
283: [16:02:41] <kinglozzer> :(
284: [16:03:08] <muskie9> that's a good idea though, I'll try looking at it from that perspective... thnx
285: [16:03:09] <slievr> 42k that are all really close, sounds crazy
286: [16:03:19] <muskie9> slievr it is
287: [16:03:50] <muskie9> people ask if we can do locators... we say yes, then we get the data and it turns into a mess
288: [16:04:18] <muskie9> the import and geocoding of the records took almost a week cause of quotas
289: [16:07:14] <slievr> cya peoples o/
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303: [17:46:00] <thesaysora> Hey gang, I'm trying to return my dataobjects as json instead of the usual means.
304: [17:46:39] <thesaysora> I figured I'd write it in the controller of the page holding my dbobjects but I'm not sure how to return the specific json for each dbobject like that.
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306: [17:48:01] <muskie9> thesaysora Convert::array2json($yourList->toNestedArray());
307: [17:48:10] <thesaysora> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/57fe774fc2d10
308: [17:48:30] <thesaysora> muskie9, would I do that in the dbobject model php?
309: [17:49:15] <thesaysora> Because I was hoping to make it be an accessible url for some ajaxy stuff I planned to do.
310: [17:49:17] <muskie9> you could have the dataobject have a method that returns it's data as the json array, but you'll need the controller to return it in the end afaik
311: [17:49:43] <thesaysora> Right.
312: [17:50:01] <muskie9> ya, controller then... so if your controller method (like your view) was to return your $item as json... you'd return Convert::array2json($item->toNestedArray());
313: [17:50:15] <thesaysora> Ok. I'll try that. Thanks. :)
314: [17:50:32] <muskie9> I think toNestedArray is available on data objects
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316: [17:52:02] <muskie9> thesaysora for a single data object use ->toMap() rather than ->toNestedArray()
317: [17:52:19] <thesaysora> Oh, got it.
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319: [17:56:39] <thesaysora> So, in my url if I go localhost/json/test-title I am getting it to return something, albeit broken.
320: [17:56:48] <thesaysora> return Convert::array2json($item->Map());
321: [17:56:51] <thesaysora> is what I tried at the bottom.
322: [17:58:37] <thesaysora> Oh, I forgot the toMap that totally was it.
323: [17:58:38] <thesaysora> Thanks!
324: [17:59:17] <muskie9> 👍
325: [18:04:24] <samsam> muskie9 is on fire today
326: [18:05:06] <muskie9> https://puu.sh/rGF70/b2bf957fed.jpg
327: [18:05:12] <muskie9> lol
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329: [18:09:00] <samsam> LOL
330: [18:09:10] <samsam> How I'm handling life atm
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334: [18:42:17] <muskie9> client meeting time
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336: [18:44:38] <thesaysora> If I made the view for the json I created as a private function
337: [18:45:06] <thesaysora> But I'm not sure how to get my javascript to access the urls safe.
338: [18:45:48] <thesaysora> If I make the function private function for the json request, I then get a 404, and so does my javascript
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347: [19:33:19] <zippy> Hellloooo :-)
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358: [20:36:48] <zippy> o/
359: [20:36:56] <zippy> Stomach: nz team back to being awesome eh
360: [20:37:14] <Stomach> uhhh ? :D
361: [20:37:40] <Stomach> headline: "Cricket: Black Caps trounced by India"
362: [20:37:43] <Stomach> accurate
363: [20:37:45] <Stomach> \o
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380: [21:43:57] <Nightjar> !kingme ss23
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401: [23:30:07] <SomeGuy> can anyone shed light on why www doesn't display some images uploaded into the cms but non-www is fine? http://www.digitaloperative.co.nz/
402: [23:32:43] <SomeGuy> is the best way to tackle this kind of thing to always force www?
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405: [23:59:13] <Isaac> hey guys, im trying to unit test a service, it makes calls to dataobjects like "Member::get()" or "Page::get()" ect, is there any way to mock those calls?

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