#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 7 October 2016

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1: [00:03:14] <pandaux> hi all, i have: private static $has_one = [ 'LinkedPages' => 'SilverStripe\\CMS\\Model\\SiteTree' ] ... then public function getCMSfields() { ... new TreeMultiSelectField('LinkedPagesID', 'Linked Pages', 'SilverStripe\\CMS\\Model\\SiteTree') ... } ... gives an error: the method 'LinkedPagesID' does not exist on 'Service'
2: [00:31:27] <Hailwood> pandaux, SS4?
3: [01:13:57] <Nightjar> col... COLIN COLIN DAMMIT WHERE ARE YOU
4: [01:14:19] <Nightjar> DarjusIT, it's not... 'bad'. But unnecessary, yes.
5: [01:14:58] <Nightjar> depending on where the files are stored. If within the site root (likely) and there is no _manifest_exclude file, the the autoloader will pick up and cache the location of the classes.
6: [01:15:18] <Nightjar> meaning all you need do is new PHPExcel and magic things happen, and you get a class! :)
7: [01:16:24] <Nightjar> <darjusIT1> Hi all. I want to put PHPExcel libs to SS directory and dont want that on load SS execute them
8: [01:16:31] <Nightjar> SS will never execute anything on load.
9: [01:16:46] <Nightjar> that's not how autoloaders work, especially SilverStripes.
10: [01:17:13] <Nightjar> It's a common misconception I've heard many times floating around Laravel teams... that's not how autoloaders work.
11: [01:17:33] <Nightjar> Files are included _on demand_ when a class within it is called.
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15: [01:19:36] <Nightjar> pandaux, don't have the 'ID' bit on the end.
16: [01:19:54] <Nightjar> TreeMultiselectField::create('LinkedPages', ...
17: [01:20:44] <Nightjar> Also, as a note... probably name the relation 'LinkedPage', because there can only ever be one ('has_one')
18: [01:20:48] <pandaux> Thnx @Hailwood and @Nightjar ... I gave up and now using three TreeDropDown fields
19: [01:20:59] <pandaux> TreeDropdownField::create('LinkedPage1ID', 'Linked page 1', 'Page'),
20: [01:21:12] <pandaux> And yes using SS4
21: [01:21:32] <Nightjar> pandaux, ... I think you're looking for has_many
22: [01:21:44] <pandaux> oh dear!
23: [01:21:58] <pandaux> lol how did i miss that, ill try that
24: [01:22:11] <Nightjar> lol, is this your first time with SilverStripe pandaux ?
25: [01:22:19] <pandaux> yes lol
26: [01:22:21] <pandaux> not really
27: [01:22:22] <Nightjar> I'd recommend the stable branch if that's the case ;)
28: [01:22:33] <pandaux> what stable, no way man
29: [01:22:53] <pandaux> been loving SS4 so far, apart from namespaces lol
30: [01:23:01] <pandaux> it really screwed me up several times
31: [01:23:38] <pandaux> also not sure why i have to explicitly state 'LinkedPages1' => 'SilverStripe\\CMS\\Model\\SiteTree' when I've imported at top of class ... use SilverStripe\CMS\Model\SiteTree;
32: [01:25:38] <pandaux> side note ... is there an Slack channel for SilverStripe
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34: [01:26:22] <Nightjar> hrrnnnggggggg
35: [01:26:24] <Nightjar> No.
36: [01:26:35] <Nightjar> IRC BEST C
37: [01:27:08] <pandaux> i'm a UI dev, IRD is hurting my eyes
38: [01:27:15] <pandaux> lol IRD too
39: [01:27:18] <pandaux> IRC I meant
40: [01:27:35] <Nightjar> Get a better client
41: [01:27:37] <Nightjar> ;)
42: [01:28:00] <pandaux> Aha why did i not think of that, what do u recommend
43: [01:28:02] <Nightjar> ie. Stop using web 'quick n dirty' :P
44: [01:28:15] <Nightjar> Personally use hexchat, but if you're on a mac many people like Textual
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46: [01:28:31] <Nightjar> I'm on windows. Hexchat is linux too though.
47: [01:28:32] <pandaux> Textual it is then
48: [01:29:07] <Hailwood> I use hexchat at work, but at home I use Konversation and Jesus that thing is pretty
49: [01:29:29] <Nightjar> KDE eh?
50: [01:30:07] <Nightjar> pandaux, the thing with SS4 is that it's alpha.
51: [01:30:15] <Hailwood> Yeah, I hated KDE4 so have been jumping between unity/gnome-shell but thought I'd give the Plasma5 desktop a go, and I'm in love.
52: [01:30:30] <Nightjar> Learning the core concepts in something that will work as expected might be... beneficial. Then see how that translates to the newer version ;)
53: [01:31:04] <Nightjar> Interesting Hailwood. Personally I've gone the other way, lol. KDE (in fact most DEs) are heavy as fuck now. Not my thing.
54: [01:31:18] <Nightjar> I'm _still_ using blackbox. Thinking of going DWM xD
55: [01:32:00] <Nightjar> Had to use a mac for a while. Could not survive if not for Amathyst. DO IT pandaux DO IT AND REGRET NOTHING
56: [01:32:15] <Nightjar> Amethyst*
57: [01:32:30] <Nightjar> https://ianyh.com/amethyst/
58: [01:36:15] <Hailwood> Nightjar, Here's what my Konversation setup looks like http://i.imgur.com/0PszqqY.png (ignore my traitorous tabs...)
59: [01:36:28] <Nightjar> Right, time for me to go and watch a presentation on SS4 ;P
60: [01:36:44] <Nightjar> oh dude wut.
61: [01:36:56] <Nightjar> Hailwood, does your autoloader load every single thing it can before it runs your app?
62: [01:37:11] <Hailwood> Lol no.
63: [01:37:14] <Nightjar> Or is it really just that Larvel folks don't know how autoloaders work?
64: [01:37:23] <Hailwood> That would be retarded.
65: [01:37:27] <Nightjar> IKR!
66: [01:37:48] <Hailwood> Performance aside, you'd end up in some kind of dependency hell.
67: [01:37:58] <Nightjar> But yeh, that's pretty spiffy (the screenshot)
68: [01:38:14] <Nightjar> so anyway, time for presentations :>
69: [01:38:33] <Hailwood> Sweet
70: [01:44:46] <pandaux> thnx @Nightjar ... private static $many_many = array("LinkedPages" => "SilverStripe\\CMS\\Model\\SiteTree"); ... did the trick ... and of course ... new TreeMultiSelectField('LinkedPages', 'Linked Pages', 'SilverStripe\\CMS\\Model\\SiteTree') ... without the ID
71: [01:46:33] <Hailwood> hey pandaux Could you try something for me quickly?
72: [01:46:52] <pandaux> does it involve writing code
73: [01:46:54] <pandaux> lol
74: [01:47:01] <pandaux> sure
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76: [01:48:32] <Hailwood> Well slightly modifying your code lol. Try this http://kopy.io/sQqfS
77: [01:48:41] <Hailwood> I just want to know if it works now in SS4
78: [01:49:12] <Hailwood> in SS3 using ::class made things die when you did a dev/build?flush=all
79: [01:51:17] <Dunatron> hey guys anyone know how i can set a session and expire that session after a certai amount of time
80: [01:52:17] <Hailwood> Dunatron, Store an expiry time as well e.g. 'my.session.key.value' => 'Hi' and 'my.session.key.expires' => time() +3600
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82: [01:52:31] <Hailwood> Then when you go to read it check the expires and wipe it if it's past that time.
83: [01:52:42] <Dunatron> ty
84: [01:52:43] <zippy> oh hai
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86: [01:53:38] <ss-helper> beatyz: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
87: [01:56:45] <spronk> zieph
88: [01:57:15] <Hailwood> Any luck with that pandaux
89: [02:06:32] <pandaux> thnx @Hailwood ... that's neat!
90: [02:06:56] <Hailwood> pandaux, I'll be stoked if that works, it makes refactory a heck of a lot easier!
91: [02:06:59] <pandaux> Yes that works
92: [02:09:14] <Dunatron> Hey guys anyone know how I would go about writing a php function to launch Terminal.app on Mac Osx
93: [02:12:46] <spronk> whyyy would you want to do that
94: [02:14:14] <zippy> Dunatron: look into apple script
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96: [02:21:00] <pandaux> anyone know why my asset files are disappearing !!!
97: [02:21:43] <pandaux> my asset dir has an .htaccess file, and temporarily 777 permissions ( ! ) and www-data:www-data ownership
98: [02:22:04] <pandaux> File gets uploaded, but no where to be seen inside /assets/Uploads/
99: [02:22:14] <pandaux> *uploaded in CMS
100: [02:26:50] <Nightjar> pandaux, so it gets there... and then...?
101: [02:26:58] <Nightjar> how do you know it gets there?
102: [02:27:14] <zippy> looking at the wrong site :)
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105: [02:29:03] <pandaux> a file entry gets created in File table
106: [02:29:04] <pandaux> in db
107: [02:29:34] <Nightjar> That's not the same as a physical file ;)
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109: [02:54:45] <Nightjar> pandaux, sounds like there must be an error happening somewhere, ensure you have output enabled and turned up1
110: [02:54:47] <Nightjar> !
111: [02:54:48] <Nightjar> *
112: [02:55:17] <Nightjar> (that's php level, not an SS specific thing)
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114: [03:08:46] <Hailwood> Don't try and load 25 youtube videos at once on one page. It makes it hang heh.
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119: [04:09:00] <Nightjar> weekened
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135: [07:27:31] <wmk> anyone tried to install sspak on a managed hetzner server?
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144: [08:29:35] <wmk> manual installation works fine
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150: [09:27:05] <swaiba> https://ss4-demo.silverstripe.org/admin/pages/
151: [09:27:29] <swaiba> am I missing something or is there not a select all for the batch action of publishing pages?
152: [09:29:59] <kinglozzer> swaiba: No, there isn't
153: [09:30:16] <kinglozzer> (there isn't in 3.x either though)
154: [09:30:31] <kinglozzer> Would be a nice feature
155: [09:32:54] <darianno> swaiba u can use url /admin/pages/publishall
156: [09:33:16] <swaiba> thanks guys I'm just checking cos I've been asked to add it
157: [09:33:42] <swaiba> I'd defo have expedted it is SS4, but it won't be rocket science to add it with a bit of JS
158: [09:34:07] <kinglozzer> O.o had no idea that existed darianno
159: [09:34:34] <kinglozzer> Looks like legacy code that has been neglected :P
160: [09:35:00] <elgabbu> correct me if I am worng ... if a class is initialized with new MyClass()
161: [09:35:12] <elgabbu> if I a setup and Injector on MyClass ... it won't work right?
162: [09:35:19] <kinglozzer> elgabbu: Correct
163: [09:35:21] <elgabbu> it has to be initialized with ::create
164: [09:36:25] <elgabbu> When Image class initilizes Image_Cached it uses new :/
165: [09:36:42] <elgabbu> so i am not able to inject it :/
166: [09:38:02] <kinglozzer> elgabbu: Yeah I remember having that issue before :/ I ended up subclassing Image
167: [09:39:00] <elgabbu> heh
168: [09:39:14] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/kinglozzer/silverstripe-tinypng that was it
169: [09:40:25] <elgabbu> thanks kinglozzer will probably go for same approach
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175: [10:38:01] <slievr1> there's a publish all is there not?
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178: [10:38:54] <slievr> I believe it was /admin/pages/publishall/
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181: [10:42:24] <swaiba> that is what slievr darianno
182: [10:42:32] <swaiba> not exactly user friednly at present :)
183: [10:45:27] <slievr> selecting all is scary though.
184: [10:45:42] <slievr> I can see why it's not in the batch actions
185: [10:46:06] <swaiba> i don't, provided someone has access and clicks specfically to publish all
186: [10:46:25] <swaiba> if it's scary then you'd need workflow and limit the permissions of pages for most users
187: [10:47:00] <slievr> I can see it not being in base, maybe a config option
188: [10:47:33] <slievr> selecting all and deleting would be less than ideal
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190: [11:06:38] <swaiba> yeah hopefully that would have confirmation box
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194: [11:55:22] <cupcake> ola o/
195: [11:59:04] <swaiba> ola cupcake#
196: [12:00:46] <cupcake> ola swaiba
197: [12:10:16] <DarjusIT> Hi all, i have made my own user profile form and there is field ConfirmedPasswordField if I in page if I not enter password I get generic validation error "Passwords can't be empty" is any good solution for this I mean if user not enters passwords so password not edited left same?
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201: [12:30:08] <swaiba> as I recall you'd need to completely remove the Password data before you write it
202: [12:30:34] <swaiba> DarjusIT and the passorwd data is actualy an array of _Password and _ConfirmPassword
203: [12:30:48] <swaiba> so don't treat it just like a text field
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206: [12:39:01] <DarjusIT> if empty remove from data array if not empty not remove you mean?
207: [12:39:59] <swaiba> I don't recall exactly what solves it, but try variations until is works for you
208: [12:40:12] <DarjusIT> swaiba thx
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212: [12:53:46] <wmk> ola cupcake
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216: [13:30:54] <cupcake> ola wmk everything ok?
217: [13:36:55] <wmk> yup
218: [13:37:17] <wmk> getting excited about conf next week...
219: [13:45:07] <cupcake> true even here :D
220: [13:45:20] <cupcake> hope it won't be too much cold
221: [13:45:29] <cupcake> we are still at 28 degrees here lol
222: [13:52:34] <wmk> cupcake, you're coming to Ljubljana?
223: [13:53:52] <cupcake> yep
224: [13:53:57] <cupcake> we will be 6
225: [13:55:12] <wmk> wow. cool
226: [13:55:21] <wmk> will you be at the opening party?
227: [13:55:28] <cupcake> yeh
228: [13:55:34] <cupcake> we should be arrigving around 630pm
229: [13:55:41] <cupcake> at ljubljana
230: [13:55:52] <cupcake> quick shower and we are ready :D
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240: [15:05:37] <swaiba> won't be on IRC again until the stripecon
241: [15:06:28] <swaiba> so wish you all a nice weekend and hope to see you in slovenia!
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247: [15:22:27] <Shrike_Finland> Anyone managed to install SilverStripe 4 alpha 2?
248: [15:22:59] <Shrike_Finland> There seems to be some problems with some paths…
249: [15:35:20] <UndefinedOffset> Shrike_Finland: are you on windows?
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252: [15:47:15] <Shrike_Finland> Nope, mac -> but trying to install it on testserver with Debian installed.
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260: [17:43:37] <jchenev> Does anyone know if it's possible to use the silverstripe-akismet SpamProtector with user defined forms? The documentation's not great, and I can't quite find where to map the fields in the form through to Akismet-validating fields.
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