#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 26 July 2016

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5: [00:02:52] <spronk> fuuuuccckkkkkkkkk you apple
6: [00:02:54] * spronk 's macbook has started hiding windows offscreen if he changes his monitor configuration
7: [00:03:09] <muskie9> lol
8: [00:03:16] <muskie9> spronk check out divvy
9: [00:03:40] * spronk changes his monitor configuration multiple times daily
10: [00:03:41] <spronk> how is ss4 coming along anwyay?
11: [00:03:46] <spronk> should i care about it?
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13: [00:17:36] <pippy> spronk: looks like they're half way done for the next alpha
14: [00:17:47] <spronk> muskie9 hmm
15: [00:17:51] <spronk> pippy mm..
16: [00:18:13] <pippy> because they're using react for the cms, i'd care if you have modules that interact with the front end in the cms
17: [00:18:16] <pippy> imo
18: [00:18:21] <spronk> mm
19: [00:19:13] <muskie9> I still have to dig into react
20: [00:24:07] <Stomach_> its gonna be a big upgrade
21: [00:25:32] <spronk> hueg
22: [00:25:36] <spronk> gonna be buggy as fuck
23: [00:25:43] <muskie9> https://puu.sh/qesYW/0401d8e44e.gif
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25: [00:27:09] <Nightjar> spronk, well, and not yet.
26: [00:27:17] <spronk> ?
27: [00:27:37] <Nightjar> spronk, also, amethyst all the screens.
28: [00:27:47] <Nightjar> spronk, ss4
29: [00:28:40] <spronk> amethyst?
30: [00:28:41] <spronk> o_O
31: [00:28:46] <Nightjar> how is ss4 coming along? well. Should you care about it? not yet.
32: [00:28:54] <Nightjar> amethyst.io or something
33: [00:29:16] <spronk> O_o
34: [00:29:17] <Nightjar> or, completely not; https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst
35: [00:29:25] <Nightjar> https://ianyh.com/amethyst/
36: [00:29:34] <spronk> ohhh
37: [00:29:40] <spronk> referring to earlier
38: [00:29:41] <spronk> right
39: [00:29:42] <Nightjar> fuck windows, fuck hiding, all the windows all the time
40: [00:29:46] * spronk was confused as fuck
41: [00:29:55] <Nightjar> mmm, I saw.
42: [00:30:14] * spronk was more referring to.. should he care about SS4 at all :P
43: [00:30:24] <Nightjar> at all? Moderately...?
44: [00:30:31] <Nightjar> penz on wachoo du
45: [00:30:51] <Nightjar> I want amethyst for windows 10 :<
46: [00:30:52] <spronk> these days, fuck all with SS :P
47: [00:31:00] <spronk> no you don't
48: [00:31:04] <spronk> because you don't want windows 10
49: [00:31:14] <Nightjar> I have it.
50: [00:31:22] <spronk> sorry bro
51: [00:31:46] <Nightjar> you don't want windows, you don't want macox, but you you can't have #YEAROFTHELINUXDESKTOP
52: [00:31:59] <spronk> ikr
53: [00:32:00] <Nightjar> whatdo? D:
54: [00:32:03] <spronk> IKR
55: [00:32:07] <Nightjar> fuck'm all linux it anyway.
56: [00:32:10] <Nightjar> but at work, win10.
57: [00:32:12] <spronk> elementary has been ok
58: [00:32:17] <spronk> but its still buggy as fuck
59: [00:32:27] <Nightjar> yeah well it's just ubuntu under a different shell.
60: [00:32:31] <spronk> and biggest problem is lack of stuff like adobe suite
61: [00:32:41] <Nightjar> well, that's your judgement.
62: [00:32:41] <spronk> god ubuntu 16.04 is buggy
63: [00:32:48] <Nightjar> also php7 only, lulz
64: [00:33:04] <spronk> Nightjar inevitably, at some stage, in our line of work you'll need to run something that's only available on windows or mac os
65: [00:33:06] <Nightjar> fkd ss3 in the bumbadukes
66: [00:33:08] <spronk> for some stupid small reason
67: [00:33:14] <Nightjar> negative.
68: [00:33:19] <Nightjar> in my line of work: OPS
69: [00:33:26] <Nightjar> I dun ops IIS
70: [00:33:31] <spronk> obscure VPN client?
71: [00:33:38] <Nightjar> neg
72: [00:34:16] * spronk shrugs
73: [00:34:29] <Nightjar> in any case, power on the windows, load the VM, job done :P
74: [00:34:53] <spronk> heh
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91: [02:24:47] <vitaly_> Hey, not really comletely related to SS but still. If I'm using grunt/gulp to build assets for a theme and don't push compressed and combined results to git, how should I update them on Dev server (not local)
92: [02:27:57] <DanaeNZ> vitaly_: you can create a webhook on the server that runs the grunt/gulp tasks for you
93: [02:30:37] <vitaly_> DanaeNZ: But is is a good practice to install gulp/grunt on the production/dev server and run them there (as well as installing node modules)?
94: [02:30:44] <Hailwood> Anyone here worked with the Xero Api?
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96: [02:34:42] <DanaeNZ> vitaly_: it's more effort lol
97: [02:34:51] <DanaeNZ> we just commit the compressed stuff to repo
98: [02:34:58] <DanaeNZ> so no node_modules folder on the server
99: [02:35:14] <vitaly_> DanaeNZ: lol, so I'm not the only one xD it really bothers me though
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104: [02:45:06] <ss-helper> How to validate uploaded file size in FileFields in Silverstripe User Forms module - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38580232/how-to-validate-uploaded-file-size-in-filefields-in-silverstripe-user-forms-modu
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106: [02:48:09] <Nightjar> vitaly_, post-pu(sh|ll) hook
107: [02:48:15] <Nightjar> or something like that
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109: [02:48:25] <Nightjar> I think composer has stuff like that too
110: [02:49:09] <Nightjar> vitaly_, personally I'm not one to have things like grunt on prod, but that's purely personal opinion.
111: [02:49:49] <Nightjar> then again, committing compiled is nasty too. So in short
112: [02:50:00] <Nightjar> tl;dr idk
113: [02:53:38] <vitaly_> Nightjar: might be the thing I'm after, thanks for the direction :)
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130: [03:45:07] <ss-helper> Silverstripe Form Redirecting Error - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38580569/silverstripe-form-redirecting-error
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132: [03:54:57] <ss-helper> isaac: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
133: [03:56:56] <isaac> hey guys, I'm having some trouble with the ModelAdmin of SilverStripe 3.4 when managing my DataObject. The DataObject has 2 many-to-many relationships, and it sets up the relationships inside DataObject::onAfterWrite
134: [03:57:32] <isaac> The issue is, the ModelAdmin goes blank after ADDing one of these DataObjects
135: [03:57:42] <muskie9> isaac any particular reason to set the relations onAfterWrite?
136: [03:58:56] <isaac> because i need to update the relationships each time the DataObject is changed
137: [03:59:10] <isaac> well, the extra-fields, that is
138: [03:59:25] <muskie9> you can manage extra fields in the cms if needed
139: [03:59:38] <isaac> they're automatic, not managed
140: [03:59:48] <muskie9> gotcha
141: [03:59:54] <isaac> sorry, they need to be automatic
142: [04:00:06] <muskie9> what's the issue w/the model admin
143: [04:00:17] <isaac> the screen goes blank
144: [04:00:23] <isaac> no error is thrown
145: [04:00:26] <isaac> it just goes blank
146: [04:00:29] <muskie9> are you in dev mode?
147: [04:00:32] <isaac> yea
148: [04:01:09] <isaac> and any action after I add a notification does nothing but change the url
149: [04:01:18] <muskie9> blank screen is generally a 500 server error... are you using an _ss_environment.php file
150: [04:01:19] <isaac> so i have to refresh the page to be able to navigate
151: [04:01:24] <isaac> yes
152: [04:01:56] <isaac> ive step debugged adding one of these DataObjects, it seems to work fine
153: [04:02:05] <muskie9> do you have an SS_ERROR_LOG set? I usually do define('SS_ERROR_LOG', 'silverstripe.log'); so I have a silverstripe.log file in the site root
154: [04:02:17] <muskie9> easier than digging through the server logs
155: [04:02:27] <isaac> No, ill do that and see what it comes back with
156: [04:02:29] <isaac> give me a min
157: [04:03:04] <muskie9> I also set error_reporting(E_ERROR | E_WARNING | E_PARSE ^ E_STRICT); and ini_set("display_errors", 'on'); just to be sure reporting is on
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159: [04:05:06] <isaac> i have error_reporting(E_ALL);
160: [04:05:11] <muskie9> gotcha
161: [04:05:20] <isaac> and nope, i did this:
162: [04:05:21] <isaac> define('SS_ERROR_LOG', "/var/www/silverstripe.error.log");
163: [04:05:30] <isaac> and no file was created
164: [04:05:39] <isaac> so i assume no error was thrown
165: [04:05:54] <muskie9> odd... can you post your object
166: [04:05:55] <muskie9> !paste
167: [04:05:55] <ss-helper> Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
168: [04:06:23] <isaac> I'll try to, give me a few mins
169: [04:06:28] <muskie9> sure
170: [04:09:24] <isaac> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5796e25f99769
171: [04:11:47] <isaac> the extra fields is on a DataExtension for Member: ["Notifications" =>["Read" => "Boolean"]]
172: [04:12:02] <muskie9> gotcha
173: [04:15:23] <muskie9> from what I can see at first glance it looks good... only thing I noticed is you can pas $member to your add() calls at 146 and 153 if you wanted to, but the ID should work too
174: [04:17:28] <isaac> yea, well, that add method is weird anyway (i was hoping for an update method: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38492468/many-many-extra-field-not-saving/38492602#38492602 )
175: [04:20:22] <muskie9> ya, no update for relation lists afaik unfortunately
176: [04:21:41] <isaac> that part works anyway though, because im able to edit it and change the groups and the members are reflected accordingly, and nothing breaks
177: [04:27:57] <isaac> to add more info, as soon as it fails, i cant use any other menu either, no matter what i click on the right part stays blank
178: [04:28:16] <isaac> i have to refresh the page for the menus to work
179: [04:28:58] <muskie9> ya, I've had that before... trying to remember what usually causes that... I think it might be a reflection exception where only one side of a relation is setup
180: [04:29:03] <muskie9> but I could be wrong on that one
181: [04:29:33] <Audlex> how can I achieve this?
182: [04:29:34] <Audlex> return ModelAsController::controller_for($this->DownloadForm())->Form();
183: [04:30:00] <Audlex> where $this->DownloadForm() is a tree drop down and does not work
184: [04:31:34] <isaac> ill try clearing all instances of notification and see if the error is there because of old data... it shouldnt be, but who knows
185: [04:32:09] <muskie9> that could be... if you change a relation or a model at some point you may have some legacy stuff in there mucking it up
186: [04:32:11] <Nightjar> isaac, sounds like you've got error reporting disabled
187: [04:32:59] <isaac> see above, error_reporting(E_ALL); is @ the top of _ss_environment.php
188: [04:33:09] <Nightjar> yea, but that' don't mean much if PHP
189: [04:33:13] <Nightjar> 's is OFF
190: [04:34:16] <Nightjar> check php ihi
191: [04:34:17] <Nightjar> ini*
192: [04:34:23] <Nightjar> ini_get maybe
193: [04:35:35] <isaac> display_errors = On, display_startup_errors = On, log_errors = On
194: [04:36:06] <Nightjar> check something isn't chaning that though, like you don't have something silly in .htaccess
195: [04:36:15] <Nightjar> because a blank page is quite rare.
196: [04:36:25] <Nightjar> what is the HTTP status code?
197: [04:38:02] <isaac> 200
198: [04:38:20] <isaac> the response is some long url then id?Locale=en_NZ
199: [04:38:27] <isaac> (where id is 35, in my latest case)
200: [04:38:45] <isaac> the response body is what looks like the edit page
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202: [04:41:11] <Nightjar> no JS error?
203: [04:41:24] <isaac> nope no errors anywhere
204: [04:41:35] <Nightjar> by blank, you mean the whole screen goes white?
205: [04:41:47] <isaac> no, just the right panel
206: [04:41:51] <isaac> the left panel remains
207: [04:42:15] <Nightjar> so it's not blank
208: [04:42:22] <Nightjar> there's a javascript error somewhere
209: [04:42:37] <isaac> javascript isnt throwing any errors
210: [04:42:47] <Nightjar> Has to be to get a response but nothing on screen.
211: [04:42:47] <isaac> oh interesting, the response type of the create is html, is it meant to be javascript?
212: [04:42:57] <isaac> i mean json*
213: [04:42:59] <Nightjar> dunno
214: [04:43:05] <Nightjar> no
215: [04:43:07] <Nightjar> don't think so
216: [04:43:10] <Nightjar> dunno
217: [04:43:15] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, your turn
218: [04:43:37] <Nightjar> are you trying to output anything?
219: [04:43:58] <Nightjar> that could be inteferring with what the CMS JS expects, causing problems
220: [04:44:08] <DanaeNZ> hugh?
221: [04:44:11] <DanaeNZ> huh*?
222: [04:44:18] <DanaeNZ> I haven't been listening
223: [04:44:31] <isaac> nope, the DataObject above just uses the stuff i can use
224: [04:44:50] <Nightjar> stuff you can use?
225: [04:45:02] <isaac> like, the cms fields n stuff
226: [04:45:08] <isaac> i dont echo anything
227: [04:45:14] <Nightjar> k
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229: [04:46:27] <isaac> would css be affecting this? I did write some css to make SelectionGroup look nice, and when i hid a radiobutton a while ago i did start getting javascript errors (so I resorted to opacity 0)
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231: [04:47:36] <DorsaiNZ> hi all
232: [04:48:53] <isaac> here is the css i wrote http://pastebin.com/BV5cs0Hq
233: [04:49:38] <DanaeNZ> hey isaac are you just trying to save many_many_extraFields
234: [04:49:46] <isaac> no
235: [04:50:06] <isaac> the many_many_extraFields thing works from what i understand
236: [04:50:07] <DanaeNZ> kk, I just skimmed over the stuff above
237: [04:50:16] <Nightjar> isaac, you haven't added any JS?
238: [04:50:22] <isaac> nope
239: [04:50:28] <isaac> all ive added is css
240: [04:50:41] <isaac> let me confirm that...
241: [04:52:10] <isaac> here is the model admin controller http://pastebin.com/jqgQng1v
242: [04:52:44] <isaac> all i have added was the css file, and sorted the list
243: [04:53:02] <DorsaiNZ> hey has anyone got a solution to having many-many relationships properly versioned?
244: [04:53:36] <Nightjar> DorsaiNZ, the module
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246: [04:55:15] <muskie9> Nightjar there's a module for that 😳
247: [04:55:28] <Nightjar> There is!
248: [04:56:11] <muskie9> I've searched for something like that and haven't found anything
249: [04:58:22] <Nightjar> Versioned data objects?
250: [04:59:08] <muskie9> tracking many many relations per version of a page/data object
251: [04:59:09] <Nightjar> isaac, so what's the usecase where you get 'blank'?
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253: [04:59:33] <Nightjar> muskie9, hmm... ic. not entirely sure in that case.
254: [04:59:37] <DorsaiNZ> just checking - I have a Page with a many-many relationship to a dataobject - if I change the relationship it is immediately reflected in the front end without publishing the page
255: [04:59:58] <Nightjar> DorsaiNZ, I think you'd have to use versioned dataobjects too
256: [05:00:28] <Nightjar> Versioning is basically the devil :(
257: [05:00:32] <isaac> when i add, i can fill out the fields n what not, but as soon as i click the Save button, the page goes blank. The DataObject is saved, though, so everything goes through fine, it just doesn't bring up the next page after save
258: [05:00:35] <DorsaiNZ> Nightjar - tried that that - that just versioned the actual dataobject not the relationship
259: [05:00:45] <muskie9> I don't think many_many's can _easily_ be tracked in versioning at this point since the many_many is in a join table... you'd have to do some fancy logic with extra fields to track the version of each related item
260: [05:00:52] <Nightjar> isaac, but you can go between pages just fine?
261: [05:01:09] <isaac> before adding, yes, after adding (clicking save), no
262: [05:01:13] <muskie9> would almost need a join table_versions or something
263: [05:01:16] <isaac> i have to refresh
264: [05:01:20] <Nightjar> DorsaiNZ, yeh, but in that case you can add new content as draft
265: [05:01:29] <muskie9> but it's late/early in the night/morning... sleep time
266: [05:01:31] <Nightjar> then publish/unpublish as necessary
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268: [05:02:08] <Nightjar> isaac, do you have something funny like betterbuttons installed or something?
269: [05:02:12] <DorsaiNZ> Nightjar, yeah but the client won't like that - I will rethink the datastructure on this one I think
270: [05:02:33] <Nightjar> DorsaiNZ, or make a module!
271: [05:02:35] <Nightjar> :P
272: [05:02:45] <Nightjar> get famous, travel the world, speak at conferences!
273: [05:02:47] <isaac> I don't believe so
274: [05:03:10] <DorsaiNZ> lol thanks Nightjar for the pep talk
275: [05:03:31] <Nightjar> worked for micmania1
276: [05:03:33] <Nightjar> :P
277: [05:04:16] <Nightjar> isaac, have you looked at the actual response to make sure it's not an error dump or something?
278: [05:04:33] <DorsaiNZ> I am having enough 'fun' circumventing the publish function and doing batch publishing with this project as it is
279: [05:04:41] <isaac> the response of the "save" request looks exactly like what the edit page looks like
280: [05:05:04] <Nightjar> something screwey silently failing in the JS :(
281: [05:05:15] <isaac> entwine...
282: [05:05:30] <isaac> ive dealt with it before, and id rather not deal with it again
283: [05:05:33] <isaac> lol
284: [05:06:01] <Nightjar> It's not so bad, but if you haven't changed it, then it shouldn't be the issue.
285: [05:06:12] <isaac> yea i havent touched model admin js
286: [05:06:15] <Nightjar> Unless it's an error
287: [05:06:19] <isaac> too scared to
288: [05:06:19] <Nightjar> like, bug I mean
289: [05:06:28] <isaac> i have a feeling its removing a div...
290: [05:06:29] <Nightjar> isaac, yeah, but it could be your model
291: [05:06:32] <Nightjar> but seems unlikely
292: [05:06:38] <Nightjar> what happens if you remove the getList() ?
293: [05:06:42] <Nightjar> (from the modeladmin)
294: [05:06:50] <Nightjar> you can use default_sort on the data object itself
295: [05:07:40] <isaac> I'll see what happens. Just to make sure, im doing a dev/build too
296: [05:08:26] <isaac> still goes to blank
297: [05:10:42] <Nightjar> mad
298: [05:11:00] <Nightjar> have you tried updating punkbuster, this worked for me GREETS!
299: [05:11:06] <Nightjar> (jokes)
300: [05:11:08] <isaac> im going to upload a screenshot now (just taking out client data)
301: [05:11:18] <Nightjar> mmhmm
302: [05:15:19] <Nightjar> do it tomorrow isaac
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304: [05:15:40] <isaac> :(
305: [05:15:43] <isaac> ok
306: [05:15:51] <isaac> thanks for the help anyway guys
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315: [06:15:09] <ss-helper> How to log a variable within a namespace (works elsewhere in Silverstripe) - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38582096/how-to-log-a-variable-within-a-namespace-works-elsewhere-in-silverstripe
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323: [07:03:07] <znorelo> Hello
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325: [07:03:32] <znorelo> I'am trying to hide the &Action Param in routing with SS
326: [07:03:48] <znorelo> I have a page managed by a controller
327: [07:04:14] <znorelo> like www.my-site.com/my-page
328: [07:04:24] <znorelo> i have databobject
329: [07:04:52] <znorelo> that I can show by the url www.my-site.com/my-page/show/2, www.my-site.com/my-page/show/3, etc...
330: [07:05:03] <znorelo> How to remove the 'show' action ?
331: [07:05:43] <znorelo> I have read https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.4/developer_guides/controllers/routing/ but I'm still confused with this
332: [07:06:27] <znorelo> I have tryed to write a custom routing rule. But it does not work :(
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334: [07:20:10] <znorelo> any idea ?
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336: [07:30:10] <ss-helper> How to translate a Tab name and a TextField? - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38583372/how-to-translate-a-tab-name-and-a-textfield
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355: [11:15:15] <ss-helper> SilverStripe template statement returns false positive - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38588128/silverstripe-template-statement-returns-false-positive
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358: [12:15:16] <ss-helper> SilverStripe enable users to edit SiteConfig - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38589364/silverstripe-enable-users-to-edit-siteconfig
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365: [13:45:17] <ss-helper> SilverStripe translate fieldlabels - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38591460/silverstripe-translate-fieldlabels
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374: [15:15:19] <ss-helper> SilverStripe File Title Translation - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38593719/silverstripe-file-title-translation
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389: [16:33:59] <r3v3rb> hullo
390: [16:34:26] <swaiba> r3v3rb evening
391: [16:34:44] <swaiba> https://github.com/stevie-mayhew/hasoneedit <--- r3v3rb
392: [16:34:48] <r3v3rb> CMS time, I have better buttons and have created a ‘Print’ button and action. But the PDF being generated is splurged into the window as raw binary due to the ajax
393: [16:34:53] <r3v3rb> swaiba: nice thanks :D
394: [16:34:57] <swaiba> does what you wanted the other day
395: [16:34:59] <swaiba> welcome
396: [16:35:32] <swaiba> r3v3rb I'd make it a link to target="_blank" to a controller to download it
397: [16:35:45] <r3v3rb> using SS_HTTPRequest?
398: [16:35:48] <r3v3rb> to send the file?
399: [16:36:37] <r3v3rb> swaiba: not quite what I needed, I need the link to the has_one record in the CMS by utilising a field from that has_one db record
400: [16:37:20] <r3v3rb> so $db has five fields -> i need a link to that record in the CMS of the parent to that has_one
401: [16:38:18] <r3v3rb> swaiba: the pdf is being generated on the fly from the db record the user is viewing
402: [16:39:16] <r3v3rb> so they have save, save & close, print in the actions bar - print should run the function and return the PDF stream for downloading, but the ajax is directing it to the LeftAndMain window :(
403: [16:46:38] <swaiba> ah well I _thought_ it was what you wanted :)
404: [16:47:15] <swaiba> yeah it should be fine as I've described : link to new window that gets it and sends it straight out
405: [16:47:27] <swaiba> do that for various things in our system
406: [16:48:00] <r3v3rb> hmm, okay I’ll have a thunk about it - tired
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411: [17:45:21] <ss-helper> Silverstripe: loop over many_many || belongs_many_many relation list - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38596413/silverstripe-loop-over-many-many-belongs-many-many-relation-list
412: [18:00:21] <ss-helper> SilverStripe form pagination - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31241338/silverstripe-form-pagination
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415: [18:58:21] <AlphaCactus> Yess while NZ sleeps, AlphaCactus can answer easy SO questions.
416: [19:00:22] <ss-helper> renderWith output visible in console, but does not update browser - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38597655/renderwith-output-visible-in-console-but-does-not-update-browser
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448: [23:58:50] <isaac__> hey guys... im back, same issue as last night :(

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