#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 22 July 2016

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11: [00:39:38] <Hailwood> Anyone know how difficult it is to add new directives to the templating language?
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19: [01:11:28] <spronk> extraordinarily.
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22: [01:33:27] <spronk> hmm
23: [01:33:29] <spronk> where is everyone
24: [01:33:38] <spronk> I mean, I know it's friday, but still
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26: [01:37:05] <DanaeNZ> hiii
27: [01:37:16] <spronk> YAY HI!
28: [01:37:18] <DanaeNZ> I just finished lunch and I am tired as shit
29: [01:37:22] <DanaeNZ> food coma plss
30: [01:37:31] * spronk is halfway through a crappy salad
31: [01:37:39] <spronk> it looked promising, but it just tastes like red onion :(
32: [01:37:42] <DanaeNZ> i had burgerfuel
33: [01:37:45] <spronk> :O
34: [01:37:51] <DanaeNZ> but the low carb version
35: [01:37:56] * spronk would so much rather be chomping on burgerfuel than a salad right now
36: [01:37:59] <DanaeNZ> so it's kind of a salad
37: [01:38:00] <spronk> the one they make you pay extra for?
38: [01:38:01] * spronk sighs
39: [01:38:22] <spronk> or have they fixed htat?
40: [01:38:39] <DanaeNZ> I dunno
41: [01:38:42] <DanaeNZ> company pays
42: [01:38:45] <spronk> nice
43: [01:38:49] <DanaeNZ> I went to elliot stables yesterday
44: [01:38:54] <DanaeNZ> there's an awesome new burger place
45: [01:38:57] <spronk> last time i looked it was $2 extra to remove the bun, and add lettuce. Wut.
46: [01:39:02] <DanaeNZ> they don't charge extra for lettuce wrap
47: [01:39:09] <DanaeNZ> haha it's bs eh
48: [01:39:17] <spronk> is that that new thing in the auck cbd?
49: [01:39:24] <spronk> well
50: [01:39:25] <spronk> "new"
51: [01:39:42] <DanaeNZ> ye
52: [01:39:48] <spronk> interesting
53: [01:39:54] * spronk will have to have a look next time he is in orkland
54: [01:39:57] <DanaeNZ> I'm seeing a few films in the film festival
55: [01:40:07] <DanaeNZ> and exploring new food options
56: [01:40:08] <DanaeNZ> aw yiss
57: [01:40:15] <terryapodaca> I see you guys (gals) eating Burgerfuel a log
58: [01:40:18] <spronk> #winning
59: [01:40:25] <DanaeNZ> so tasty
60: [01:40:29] <terryapodaca> Is that the best burger place there?
61: [01:40:38] <spronk> http://www.elliottstables.co.nz/Eat/Burgz-Burgers/ DanaeNZ ?
62: [01:40:45] <terryapodaca> We have so many options here in the states, especially Texas
63: [01:41:12] <spronk> burgerfuel definitely isn't the best
64: [01:41:19] <DanaeNZ> spronk: that's the one
65: [01:41:29] <spronk> but... they're only a few dollars more than mcdonalds, but much closer to the best than to maccas
66: [01:41:36] <DanaeNZ> exactly
67: [01:41:41] <spronk> woah
68: [01:41:42] <spronk> spensy
69: [01:41:58] <terryapodaca> So McDonalds is there
70: [01:42:09] <terryapodaca> what about Wataburger or Burger King?
71: [01:42:18] <spronk> terryapodaca we have mcdonalds, burgerking, carls jr, wendys
72: [01:42:22] <spronk> no wataburger
73: [01:42:31] <terryapodaca> gotcha
74: [01:42:45] <spronk> don't think there are any other USian burger chains here... In-n-out had a popup store in auckland a couple of times
75: [01:43:07] <DanaeNZ> spronk: so worth
76: [01:43:11] <DanaeNZ> brioche buns
77: [01:43:11] <terryapodaca> lol
78: [01:43:14] <spronk> nom
79: [01:43:16] <terryapodaca> USian
80: [01:43:20] <DanaeNZ> Usian hahah
81: [01:43:38] <spronk> pronounced "you-shzen"
82: [01:44:24] <spronk> terryapodaca what's your best cheap but gourmet-compared-to-the-big-chains burger place over there?
83: [01:45:29] * spronk can't actually remember the last time he had burgerfuel... it's been a while
84: [01:45:56] <spronk> just isn't the same without their lime shakes
85: [01:47:25] <DanaeNZ> oh man the malt shaked
86: [01:47:27] <DanaeNZ> shakes
87: [01:47:31] <spronk> aww
88: [01:47:32] <spronk> i miss those
89: [01:47:33] <spronk> :'(
90: [01:47:42] <DanaeNZ> although, the peanut butter shakes from Burger Burger are bloody fantastic
91: [01:47:48] <spronk> :O
92: [01:47:49] <DanaeNZ> or are they snickers shakes?
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94: [01:48:06] <spronk> discovered the other day that Pie Face has freakshakes
95: [01:48:23] <DanaeNZ> what is a freakshake???
96: [01:48:32] <spronk> like a burger burger shake
97: [01:48:38] <spronk> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m8WACcHLeeQ/maxresdefault.jpg
98: [01:48:40] <spronk> like dat.
99: [01:48:41] <terryapodaca> spronk: there are literally "gourmet" burger joints all over the place here. They are ALL so much better than your fast food places like McDonalds/Burger King/etc
100: [01:48:49] <spronk> nommm
101: [01:48:53] <spronk> god i love a good burger
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103: [01:49:09] <terryapodaca> Kincaid's is one of my favorites in my area
104: [01:49:16] <spronk> makes sense considering I turn everything into a sandwich anyway...
105: [01:49:22] <spronk> curry sandwitch. #winning
106: [01:49:26] <DanaeNZ> Oh!! They do those at Casa del gelato spronk
107: [01:49:46] <terryapodaca> Another place I love is called Chop House Burger
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109: [01:50:20] <zippy> Good afternoon gettlemens
110: [01:50:26] <spronk> MENTLEGEN
111: [01:50:30] <zippy> DanaeNZ: Ladies
112: [01:50:38] * spronk luls
113: [01:50:44] <zippy> what do you guys use for error log tracking
114: [01:50:45] <zippy> like
115: [01:50:50] <zippy> we can set it to email all the errors
116: [01:50:53] <zippy> or log to txt file
117: [01:51:12] <spronk> txt file
118: [01:51:14] <zippy> In L*****l I use BugSnag
119: [01:51:22] <zippy> spronk: but then do you get it emailed or notified to you at all?
120: [01:51:23] <spronk> we actually log everything to syslog
121: [01:51:26] <spronk> and then --> papertrail
122: [01:51:48] <spronk> and do a daily summary
123: [01:52:48] <zippy> intersting
124: [01:53:21] <spronk> it's suboptimal though
125: [01:53:50] <spronk> we use a few different pingdom checks to make sure stuff is mostly working though
126: [01:54:07] <spronk> (this is for our marketing site, webapps have quite a bit more metrics)
127: [01:57:37] <zippy> > it's suboptimal though
128: [01:57:40] <zippy> hohow you mean
129: [01:57:47] <spronk> we don't get notified in real time about errors
130: [01:58:23] <spronk> only through pingdom if the site is down according to ou checks
131: [01:59:07] <zippy> wowzers
132: [01:59:20] <zippy> Current project, how many Page Types do you have... go!
133: [01:59:45] <zippy> I reckon I think I will have most people beat here... this one has some Pagetypeitis
134: [01:59:58] * spronk has no current SS projects :P
135: [01:59:59] <spronk> 0
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137: [02:00:08] <zippy> >20..
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139: [02:00:20] <zippy> ss-helper: lazy ass
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142: [02:37:12] <spronk> ughh
143: [02:37:15] <spronk> composer and xdebug
144: [02:37:18] <spronk> such a PITA
145: [02:37:32] <spronk> wish there was a CLI flag to turn on xdebug
146: [02:37:49] <gigaquail> can't you do that in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
147: [02:37:54] <spronk> yes you can
148: [02:38:00] <spronk> but i want xdebug most of the time
149: [02:38:02] <spronk> just not for composer
150: [02:38:10] <DanaeNZ> spronk: i feels you
151: [02:41:45] <spronk> only way I can see is to disable it in php.ini, and use dodgy aliases to make it work nicely..
152: [02:47:46] <Hailwood> spronk, Just use phpstorm
153: [02:47:56] <spronk> i do..
154: [02:47:58] <spronk> but not for composer
155: [02:48:09] <Hailwood> You can have xdebug disabled, but if you tell it to start listening for connections then it will enable xdebug
156: [02:48:19] <Hailwood> It's a recent feature
157: [02:49:31] <Hailwood> https://blog.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/2016/06/xdebug-on-demand-for-cli-php-scripts-in-phpstorm-2016-2-eap/
158: [02:49:59] <Hailwood> Ah right, EAP - if you're not on the EAP you can't do it yet, but hey. I like the EAPS
159: [02:52:55] <zippy>   EAPS been fine for you?
160: [02:53:06] <Hailwood> Yep, been on them for well over a year
161: [02:53:21] <Hailwood> I think I've run into like one bug with the markdown plugin and that was it
162: [02:54:07] <spronk> interesting
163: [02:54:10] <zippy> I ran into a bug with the markdown plugin with proper version (when I saved anything it came up with an error)
164: [02:54:21] <Hailwood> Actually, looks like I've been on them since August 8 2014
165: [02:54:55] <DanaeNZ> I should move to EAP lol
166: [02:55:02] * spronk also should
167: [02:55:18] <spronk> how you eap!?
168: [02:55:20] * zippy should also i
169: [02:56:45] <Hailwood> spronk, http://i.imgur.com/v6fiQB7.png
170: [02:56:54] <gigaquail> lol
171: [02:56:57] <spronk> chur
172: [02:56:58] <gigaquail> people programming with guis
173: [02:56:59] <gigaquail> christ
174: [02:57:06] <spronk> hey man
175: [02:57:06] <spronk> vim is a gu
176: [02:57:08] <spronk> i
177: [02:57:21] <Hailwood> gigaquail, programs with a screenreader
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179: [02:57:30] <gigaquail> basically Hailwood
180: [02:57:43] <spronk> punch cards.
181: [02:58:00] <gigaquail> doesn't seem hyper productive
182: [02:58:16] <spronk> god, we did punch cards at uni for some retro comp sci lecture
183: [02:58:20] <gigaquail> punch cards aren't literally on every single server everywhere
184: [02:58:25] <spronk> noooo thanks.
185: [02:58:29] <Hailwood> Could punch cards be considered gui?
186: [02:58:38] <spronk> so glad i skipped that part of dev
187: [02:58:47] <Hailwood> the dots are instructions, so technically it's a graphical interface
188: [02:58:56] <gigaquail> a core part of the idea of a GUI in historical terms is really the idea of skeumorphism through things like cascading windows, icons, and other humanizing features
189: [02:59:02] <gigaquail> rather than the barren wasteland that is a readline client
190: [02:59:38] <spronk> wimp brah
191: [02:59:46] <gigaquail> smalltalk was all about a lot of visual representation of graphs (in the mathematical sense) and had a lot to do with early GUI development
192: [03:00:32] <gigaquail> ncurses based software being a GUI is obviously arguable but a bit of a long bow in the context of a modern userland
193: [03:01:44] <gigaquail> that being said, i love me some htop, multitail, screen, and osxes 'open' command when i want a rich media browser
194: [03:04:01] <gigaquail> i was reading an article the other day where this guy had to draw his font on graph paper then type out all the bitmasks into BASIC to get a font in his very early gui program
195: [03:04:16] <gigaquail> fair distance from literally tiny computer programs (postscript) for fonts
196: [03:06:37] <zippy> say wimp, thought winamp... had happy feels
197: [03:06:40] <zippy> *saw
198: [03:07:08] <gigaquail> were you ready to really kick the llamas ass
199: [03:07:37] <DanaeNZ> oh winmamp
200: [03:07:39] <DanaeNZ> amp
201: [03:07:41] <DanaeNZ> *
202: [03:08:31] <gigaquail> "guys i've develoepd a full stack mp3 player" wampamp
203: [03:08:38] <DanaeNZ> lololol
204: [03:09:33] <gigaquail> on that note
205: [03:09:39] <gigaquail> christ i wish html5 video api wasn't a sack of shit
206: [03:10:09] <gigaquail> when was the canadian winter olympics, that's when multibitrate stream containers really kicked into mainstream
207: [03:10:19] <gigaquail> and now we don't even have them anymore, when we'd most benefit from them
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210: [03:21:18] <Hailwood> 26 tabs open and I'm actively using all of them. Life of a developer huh.
211: [03:26:31] <zippy> 43
212: [03:26:47] <zippy> 2 of the website working on, 5 for google, 36 on stack overflow
213: [03:29:03] <gigaquail> ii usually have hundreds, each chrome major cascading window is a subject then the 2-3 pages of google searches all tabbed out
214: [03:29:27] <gigaquail> i tried to make a chrome extension for fuzzy finding tabs but without interpeting the entire article it's basically useless
215: [03:30:52] <DanaeNZ> I hate having heaps of tabs open lol
216: [03:31:07] <DanaeNZ> I have about 8 pinned ones I always use
217: [03:31:15] <DanaeNZ> the rest depends on what project I'm working on
218: [03:54:05] <gigaquail> sounds like you need wampamp m8
219: [03:54:32] <DanaeNZ> wampxamp
220: [03:57:03] <gigaquail> then it'd be lampxamp
221: [03:57:09] <gigaquail> you're getting too damn clever
222: [03:58:46] <zippy> anyone have a google SS flash messaging module they use
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226: [04:12:32] <DorsaiNZ> any clues on why (from the SilverStripe website) the following "$fields->addFieldToTab('ActionMenus.MoreOptions', FormAction::create('minor', 'Minor action'));" returns a "[User Error] FieldList::addFieldToTab() Tried to add a tab to object 'FieldList' - 'ActionMenus' didn't exist." error
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228: [04:17:42] <DanaeNZ> DorsaiNZ: Try $field->findOrMakeTab('ActionMenus') ?
229: [04:18:50] <zippy> $fields->addFieldToTab('Main.MoreOptions', FormAction::create('minor', 'Minor action'));
230: [04:18:55] <zippy> is there an ActionMenus?
231: [04:19:04] <zippy> if you create one, where will it go?
232: [04:19:08] * zippy looks to the sky
233: [04:19:12] <zippy> in the cloud
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236: [04:28:17] <DorsaiNZ> yeah I can see a div called ActionMenus with a div inside of that called MoreOptions
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240: [04:52:33] <DanaeNZ> I want a wine but I'm trying to cut back on sugar
241: [04:52:43] <DanaeNZ> whiskey it is
242: [04:53:11] <ss23> lol
243: [04:53:20] <ss23> idk
244: [04:53:26] <ss23> if you finish a bottle of wine, you don't need dinner
245: [04:53:29] <ss23> so you'll cut back that way
246: [04:56:10] <spronk> kekek
247: [04:56:11] <spronk> good plan
248: [04:56:20] <spronk> ... apart from the fact that you'd be an alcoholic.
249: [04:57:07] * spronk goes home
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253: [05:07:13] <DanaeNZ> I want a nap
254: [05:07:15] <DanaeNZ> a nana nap
255: [05:07:27] <DanaeNZ> unfortunately I am an adult with adult responsibilities now
256: [05:07:46] <DanaeNZ> I have to go and feed myself and do laundry :<
257: [05:15:03] <ss-helper> Silverstripe module returning blank page after adding new record - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38518635/silverstripe-module-returning-blank-page-after-adding-new-record
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269: [07:00:05] <ss-helper> SilverStripe CMS custom css - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38306387/silverstripe-cms-custom-css
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274: [07:45:06] <ss-helper> SilverStripe control ChildrenOf with multi language - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38520800/silverstripe-control-childrenof-with-multi-language
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282: [10:43:49] <ss-helper> pweh: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
283: [10:44:27] <pweh> are there many new zealanders in here?
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295: [12:54:05] <guci0> "new zealanders" how does it sound. Europe welcome :)
296: [13:01:48] <slievr> pretty sure you call them kiwis
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330: [21:00:19] <ss-helper> Silverstripe: How to add custom css/js from module - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38535132/silverstripe-how-to-add-custom-css-js-from-module
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332: [21:01:43] <darjusIT> Hi, do you know any good ajax upload with drag drop image reordering php js modules, can be free can be payed?
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334: [21:53:45] <darjusIT> Hi, do you know any good ajax upload with drag drop image reordering php js modules, can be free can be payed?
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