#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 7 July 2016

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3: [00:00:23] <pippy> oh :(
4: [00:00:26] <pippy> that sucks
5: [00:00:55] <pippy> is it a bad case of the flu?
6: [00:21:33] <Stomach> yeah have been dying for 3 days
7: [00:29:24] <pippy> at least you got during the week day
8: [00:29:36] <pippy> so you might be better for the weekend
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10: [00:45:03] <ss-helper> Exist condition in Silverstripe - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38235981/exist-condition-in-silverstripe
11: [00:53:36] <DanaeNZ> urgh it's already 1?
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13: [01:00:59] <ss23> It is!
14: [01:01:08] <ss23> Though technically you asked at 12:53
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18: [01:32:38] <DanaeNZ> time is a manmade construct
19: [01:33:05] <DanaeNZ> i think half this application is unfinished
20: [01:33:22] <DanaeNZ> I keep finding new bugs that are actually just features that haven't been made yet
21: [01:33:57] * Hailwood knows that feeling
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24: [02:08:28] <Jakx> yo
25: [02:12:23] <DanaeNZ> o/
26: [02:21:16] <Nightjar> yo
27: [02:22:04] <Jakx> How goes the SS office?
28: [02:23:02] <Nightjar> Office go good
29: [02:25:53] <Jakx> I've got a ModelAdmin for a class with 54,000 records in SS 3.3, and I'm running out of memory. Shouldn't ModelAdmin be able to fetch a single page from the db?
30: [02:31:01] <Nightjar> Should, yeh.
31: [02:31:20] <Nightjar> is the list paginated by default though?
32: [02:31:25] <Nightjar> I can't remember from the top of my head
33: [02:35:52] <DanaeNZ> yeah pagination should come up by default. iirc SS still loads the full list even if the gridfield is paginated though?
34: [02:36:47] <Jakx> Hmmm, yeah. Maybe I need to investigate deeper as to where the memory leak is
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36: [02:41:43] <ss-helper> Dunatron: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
37: [02:42:31] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, not to my memory, but not 100%.
38: [02:42:52] <Nightjar> iirc it's an ajax request between pages
39: [02:43:01] <DanaeNZ> that would make sense
40: [02:43:09] <Nightjar> much
41: [02:43:38] <Nightjar> But just because gridfield for modeladmin does that by default, doesn't mean something else isn't doing something silly that isn't paginating it
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43: [02:43:46] <Nightjar> something to do with filters? idk.
44: [02:43:53] * Nightjar shrugs
45: [02:44:10] <Nightjar> the stack trace should give a hint I think eh Jakx ?
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47: [02:44:13] <ss-helper> Tron: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
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49: [02:49:35] <Tron> Hi guys, i'm a newbie here. When on a childpage in silverstripe is it possible to not include the parent in the url? e.g sitename/parent/child becomes sitename/child. Cheers and thanks
50: [02:51:00] <Jakx> Nightjar, nice tip, I'm working my way through the trace as we speak
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52: [02:51:42] <Jakx> Tron, are you referring to your front-of-house, or the cms?
53: [02:54:37] <Jakx> Tron, there's a few ways to answer your question actually. None - that I can think of - are very simple though, easiest way is to just assemble your site tree in the cms to suit your page hierarchy.
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55: [03:02:21] <Tron> Hi guys, The site structure is still sitename/parent/child but on the front in the url it is sitename/child
56: [03:03:01] <Tron> I have both upgraded from an older silverstripe version and merged two sites
57: [03:04:18] <DanaeNZ> Tron: is $nested_urls disabled somewhere? I think that determines your URL nesting
58: [03:06:33] <Tron> I will have a look into $nested_urls and get back to you, thank you DanaeNZ
59: [03:14:58] <Nightjar> config
60: [03:15:06] <Jakx> Nightjar, I think you're onto something with filters, memory leak is in ModelAdmin::SearchForm()
61: [03:15:52] <Nightjar> :>
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64: [03:29:21] <Jakx> Nightjar, so yeah, ModelAdmin didn't like something about my default class - when ModelAdmin tried to render it's search fields, it just chewed out the memory. Stripped $searchable_fields back, and seems happy.
65: [03:29:47] <Jakx> Nightjar, DanaeNZ, thanks for your pointers.
66: [03:30:22] <DanaeNZ> Jakx: good to know
67: [03:40:53] <Nightjar> cool :)
68: [03:41:21] <Nightjar> anyone know from their heads what kind of voodoo is performed to get the [modified] tag on a pagename in the tree in the cms?
69: [03:41:43] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, I seem to recall you having some experience with this nonsense once
70: [03:41:56] <DanaeNZ> Noep
71: [03:42:03] <Nightjar> D:
72: [03:42:07] <DanaeNZ> I vaguely remember reading it in the core somewhere
73: [03:42:16] <DanaeNZ> You can add your own ones
74: [03:42:31] <DanaeNZ> Take a look at that Workflow module CWP implements?
75: [03:42:41] <DanaeNZ> Pretty sure that chucks its own tags on things
76: [03:43:14] <Nightjar> I moved some pages
77: [03:43:17] <Nightjar> published them
78: [03:43:21] <Nightjar> (programmatically)
79: [03:43:28] <Nightjar> [Modified] :<
80: [03:43:37] <Nightjar> Firesphere, any ideas?
81: [03:43:39] <DanaeNZ> oh right
82: [03:43:51] <DanaeNZ> publish em' I guess
83: [03:44:06] <Nightjar> no, that defeats the point of doing it programmatically
84: [03:44:29] <DanaeNZ> oh I missed that message ha
85: [03:45:08] <DanaeNZ> so it's showing that flag cos SiteTree is outta sync with SiteTree_Live I'm guessing?
86: [03:45:38] <Nightjar> shouldn't be though, coz I just doPublish()
87: [03:46:00] <Nightjar> Maybe it's something stupid like because I didn't make a new version...
88: [03:46:10] <Nightjar> but that's a valid thing so shouldn't be.
89: [03:46:44] <DanaeNZ> did you ->write() as well? maybe the draft table is the one that's behind
90: [03:47:16] <Nightjar> write(); if wasPublished, dopublish;
91: [03:49:32] * DanaeNZ shrugs
92: [03:49:50] <DanaeNZ> manually check a couple records from your SiteTree tables is all I can suggest
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94: [03:52:19] <Nightjar> urgh
95: [03:52:21] <Nightjar> rude
96: [03:52:21] <Nightjar> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-SiteTree.html#2808
97: [03:53:19] <DanaeNZ> public function getIsModifiedOnStage($isModified) { return false; }
98: [03:53:20] <DanaeNZ> lol
99: [03:53:42] <DanaeNZ> doPublish handles all that versioning stuff tho
100: [03:54:09] <DanaeNZ> maybe use $page->publish('Stage', 'Live')
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102: [04:16:48] <Nightjar> yeh, but then none of the other shit that doPublish does
103: [04:16:56] <Nightjar> I'll figure it out
104: [04:22:32] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, silent fail, fml
105: [04:22:40] <DanaeNZ> My fave!
106: [04:22:54] <DanaeNZ> in doPublish?
107: [04:29:09] <Tron> Hey guys nested urls use to be set in the config file like this -> SiteTree::enable_nested_urls();
108: [04:30:06] <Tron> it has since been deprecated -> Deprecation::notice('4.0', 'Use the "SiteTree.nested_urls" config setting instead');
109: [04:30:22] <Tron> just wondering how to set SiteTree.nested_urls in the config.php file
110: [04:31:12] <DanaeNZ> Tron: you'll probably want to look into .yml configuration. Under mysite/_config, put a file called: config.yml
111: [04:31:24] <DanaeNZ> SS has some documentation on it
112: [04:31:35] <DanaeNZ> but you basically want: SiteTree:
113: [04:31:44] <DanaeNZ> nested_urls: true
114: [04:31:54] <DanaeNZ> but yeah, read up on it first
115: [04:32:00] <Tron> SiteTree: nested_urls: 1
116: [04:32:07] <Tron> in tha yaml file yes?
117: [04:32:18] <DanaeNZ> https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.3/developer_guides/configuration/configuration/
118: [04:32:28] <DanaeNZ> 1 or true, yeah
119: [04:32:31] <Tron> cool thank-you
120: [04:32:38] <Hailwood> As a side note, why is Deprecation::notice('4.0', '...'); throwing an error before 4.0?
121: [04:33:02] <DanaeNZ> lol
122: [04:34:21] <Tron> well maybe im just playing with 4
123: [04:34:41] <Tron> haha no, im just stumped with it and searched the site
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126: [04:45:44] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, yeh, permission failure, despite being DefaultAdmin
127: [04:46:20] <Exor> Hey all. Has anyone used the Swipestripe e-commerce addon? Would you recommend it? It looks like support for it has died recently?
128: [04:46:29] <Nightjar> Tron, be sure to flush after modifying any yaml
129: [04:46:32] <Nightjar> :)
130: [04:47:22] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: that's arse
131: [04:47:37] <Tron> hey thanks =) I was pulling my hair out why it wasnt working in config.php, and it was because in the yaml file it has been set for the other site
132: [04:47:43] <DanaeNZ> Exor: I think Silvershop is more up to date
133: [04:47:58] <Tron> now to enable to configs for the two different subsites
134: [04:49:52] <Tron> Exor, I have recently used Swipestripe e-commerce and is fairly easy to customise
135: [04:53:30] <Tron> one thing i noticed is the attributes manager was not populating the dropdowns and adding a product generates a session message that has the link code rather than the link
136: [04:54:06] <Tron> easily fixable but like you said, perhaps is losing support
137: [04:56:54] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, Member::default_admin()->logIn();
138: [04:57:00] <Nightjar> seems to be the fix :<
139: [04:57:05] <Nightjar> a little mad, but hey.
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141: [04:57:36] <Nightjar> Exor, Stomach uses it.
142: [04:57:43] <Stomach> who uses what
143: [04:58:04] <Stomach> Exor we have an internal fork of it which we really should push back up
144: [04:58:05] <Nightjar> It hasn't been maintained for a while besides bugfixes I guess (slow as they are discovered)
145: [04:58:48] <Nightjar> Exor, but as DanaeNZ said, Silvershop is generally more active now. Also SilverCart released a new version yesterday
146: [04:59:11] <Nightjar> That's GPL though, so if you modify it you MUST supply changes publically
147: [04:59:47] <Nightjar> (ie, bugfix or patch core to suit)
148: [05:00:02] <Exor> Thanks for your input everyone - I guess it's worthwhile checking out the alternatives. And by alternatives I guess I mean Silvershop. Haha.
149: [05:00:20] <Nightjar> well there's silverCart too
150: [05:00:24] <Nightjar> but yeh
151: [05:00:30] <DanaeNZ> I haven't looked at silver cart yet
152: [05:00:46] <Nightjar> 2.x version was quite... hefty.
153: [05:01:02] <Nightjar> was also pay for so wasn't so popularly adopted
154: [05:01:17] <Nightjar> but seemed good
155: [05:01:59] <Stomach> silvercart when we looked at it years ago was really slow and bulky
156: [05:02:11] <ss23> so it suits te rest of silverstripe
157: [05:02:11] <ss23> :D
158: [05:02:12] <Stomach> there is also the heyday ecommerce heystack which is awesome but poorly documented
159: [05:02:59] <Stomach> its super quick and is basically a big symfony connector lol
160: [05:05:40] <DanaeNZ> I like to avoid ecommerce
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164: [06:08:48] <Nightjar> I agree with DanaeNZ, and thus far have been pretty successful.
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167: [06:18:43] <wmk> Nightjar, you agree?
168: [06:19:35] <Nightjar> Do I?
169: [06:20:04] <wmk> well, i wondered
170: [06:20:43] <Nightjar> Oh, on <DanaeNZ> I like to avoid ecommerce
171: [06:20:47] <Nightjar> :)
172: [06:21:07] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
173: [06:21:41] <DanaeNZ> oh gods, who wrote this code
174: [06:21:43] <wmk> well, that's true. But silvershop is nice
175: [06:21:56] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, you?
176: [06:22:04] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: fortunately not
177: [06:22:09] <DanaeNZ> but also, unfortunately not
178: [06:22:17] <Nightjar> That one other dev on the project?
179: [06:22:23] <DanaeNZ> Nah some other dev
180: [06:22:25] <Nightjar> Why is everyone still at work? D:
181: [06:22:26] <DanaeNZ> some other project
182: [06:22:41] <DanaeNZ> Cos got shit to do! woo
183: [06:22:50] <Nightjar> indeed :<
184: [06:22:55] <DanaeNZ> Git blame told me who wrote it
185: [06:23:16] <DanaeNZ> and the person who wrote it didn't user many_many
186: [06:23:26] <DanaeNZ> so now I can't just tap into the ORM to get the shit
187: [06:23:44] <Nightjar> turn it into a manymany
188: [06:23:47] <Nightjar> list
189: [06:23:54] <DanaeNZ> I'd love to
190: [06:23:58] <DanaeNZ> but it's already live
191: [06:24:01] <DanaeNZ> and content entry
192: [06:24:07] <DanaeNZ> and don't want to fuck over the site
193: [06:24:09] <Nightjar> oohoooh ohho hoooohhhhhh, put the genie back in the bottle.
194: [06:24:26] <DanaeNZ> I'll just explode that list of IDs like some pleb
195: [06:24:28] <Nightjar> oh wait what?
196: [06:24:30] <Nightjar> not even defined
197: [06:24:31] <Nightjar> dafuq
198: [06:24:32] <Nightjar> mad
199: [06:24:37] <Nightjar> rage, then quit.
200: [06:24:41] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
201: [06:24:45] <Nightjar> then comeback tomorrow and rage more.
202: [06:24:57] <DanaeNZ> I never used to be this salty
203: [06:25:00] <DanaeNZ> I'm so salty
204: [06:25:08] <DanaeNZ> comes with the job I guess
205: [06:25:52] <DanaeNZ> I can't even GroupedList()->groupedBy('RelationTitle') to sort it nicely
206: [06:26:21] <ss23> too much junk food
207: [06:26:25] <ss23> high in sodium content
208: [06:26:31] <DanaeNZ> must be it
209: [06:26:51] <ss23> playing cs:s made me super salty back in the day. I would come home from highschool and play for ~4 hours a night just shouting into the micrphone constantly
210: [06:27:17] <DanaeNZ> now it's just web dev that makes you salty :D
211: [06:27:31] <DanaeNZ> so many reasons to be salty
212: [06:27:32] <DanaeNZ> other devs
213: [06:27:34] <DanaeNZ> clients
214: [06:27:36] <DanaeNZ> shitty APIs
215: [06:27:56] <DanaeNZ> fuck me I can't even partial match this shit
216: [06:28:37] <DanaeNZ> ugh maybe they wrote an equally retarded function to get the related objects
217: [06:30:23] <DanaeNZ> they called the Text field of imploded IDs...."BelongsTo"
218: [06:30:32] * DanaeNZ cries salty tears
219: [06:30:37] <DanaeNZ> wake me up inside
220: [06:31:07] <ss23> can't wake up inside
221: [06:31:13] <wmk> DanaeNZ, sounds like a huge refactoring session
222: [06:31:37] <DanaeNZ> wmk: fuck that haha this data model is beyond rekt
223: [06:31:42] <wmk> oh
224: [06:31:49] <DanaeNZ> there's no going back
225: [06:31:54] <wmk> well, DanaeNZ you should come over here, there is a salt mine some houndred meters away
226: [06:32:05] <DanaeNZ> I have probably more salt than that mine
227: [06:32:09] <ss23> // TODO: REWRITE THSI ENTIRE PROJECT, IT'S BULLSHIT
228: [06:32:18] <ss23> Put a comment like that to make sure the next person knows your feelings :O
229: [06:32:39] <Nightjar> DanaeNZ, prolonged devwork will see that happen.
230: [06:33:07] <DanaeNZ> ss23: hahah I really should
231: [06:33:14] <DanaeNZ> Nightjar: natural side effect
232: [06:33:21] <ss23> I used to have a lot of bad git commit messages
233: [06:33:24] <Nightjar> This site has destroyed me. I'm gaan home.
234: [06:33:32] <ss23> That way when someone did a git blame, they'd be like "Oh, I guess he didn't want it like that either"
235: [06:33:36] <DanaeNZ> brb while I write a fucking custom SearchFilter for this shit
236: [06:33:48] <ss23> rewrite in Ruby on Rails
237: [06:33:50] <Nightjar> Just restored it. Everything as it was. INFINITE REDIRECTS
238: [06:33:54] <Nightjar> idek.
239: [06:33:57] <Nightjar> hide me.
240: [06:34:04] <Nightjar> gan home yell at CS:GO
241: [06:34:05] <DanaeNZ> yaaay infinite redirects
242: [06:34:15] <Nightjar> xD
243: [06:34:24] <Nightjar> nite
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245: [06:34:48] <DanaeNZ> ughghghghg the O function on this shit is like, hurting my heart
246: [06:37:06] <DanaeNZ> agh fuck this I can totally get away with PartialMatch
247: [06:37:15] <DanaeNZ> I'll put a little note in here
248: [07:04:07] <DanaeNZ> fuck this shit I'm out
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252: [07:21:03] <wmk> seems like after upgrading to 3.3 images i created with helper methods in an ImageExtension are not created any more?
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254: [07:23:08] <ss-helper> rural-man: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
255: [07:23:33] <rural-man> Heyo - has anyone ever used ss-shop to set up rural delivery in NZ?
256: [07:23:54] <rural-man> i.e we want to charge more for people in rural zones
257: [07:24:08] <rural-man> There is a zones model, but not quite sure how it works
258: [07:28:41] <wmk> seems i had to update my extension to use GDBackend instead of GD
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263: [08:06:51] <DarjusIT> Hi, all I am having problem to make work LiteralField in SS 3.3 here is code in form php file and call in form.ss maybe someone see mistake http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/577e0d53adbc3
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273: [09:13:16] <Guits> Hi, i am struggling with a dataobject::get - Is there a way to show the sql for thar particular query?
274: [09:16:26] <TombL> Guits try http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-DataList.html#_sql
275: [09:16:57] <swaiba> Guits note if you are using PDO it won't show you the whole thing, switch out of that to see the values in the SQL
276: [09:24:56] <DarjusIT> Hi, all I am having problem to make work LiteralField in SS 3.3 here is code in form php file and call in form.ss maybe someone see mistake http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/577e0d53adbc3
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278: [09:26:05] <guci0> Hi all!
279: [09:26:06] <Guits> thanx TombL and swaiba - turns out that my filter "Element" => "" not matches NULL
280: [09:26:19] <Guits> How can i match not ?
281: [09:26:21] <Guits> not NULL
282: [09:26:57] <swaiba> Guits ->where(' Element IS NOT NULL ');
283: [09:31:54] <Guits> :) u re the best
284: [09:45:22] <DarjusIT> solved for some reason Literal Field not call with $Fields.dataFieldByName only loops by fields
285: [09:57:01] <swaiba> DarjusIT maybe literal field doesn't have any data in it, so isn't a data field?
286: [09:57:22] <DarjusIT> had :)
287: [09:58:01] <DarjusIT> i tried '<p>test</p>' doesnt worked
288: [09:58:25] <DarjusIT> only when I looped fields then it started to work
289: [10:04:50] <kinglozzer> DarjusIT: Try naming it something other than Offers
290: [10:05:20] <DarjusIT> still same
291: [10:05:30] <kinglozzer> Sometimes it can try to auto-populate values, and if your model has a field/relation named 'Offers' then you HTML will be overridden
292: [10:05:31] <kinglozzer> Oh :*
293: [10:05:32] <kinglozzer> :(
294: [10:05:40] <DarjusIT> just looped and if $name = 'Offers' then worked
295: [10:05:52] <kinglozzer> DarjusIT: dataFieldByName() ? Try fieldByName
296: [10:05:57] <kinglozzer> LiteralField isn't a data field
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300: [10:49:07] <r3v3rb> good morning
301: [10:49:25] <r3v3rb> is there a way to search recursively for a file in the assets folder?
302: [10:52:35] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: A file record? Can't you just do File::get() or something instead?
303: [10:53:15] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: yeh, I guess - that means the person batch uploading would need to sync the assets folder…
304: [10:53:25] <r3v3rb> lets see :D
305: [11:11:02] <r3v3rb> I’ve decided trading CFD’s is a better usage of my time today and yesterdays results: http://imgur.com/HnH37Su
306: [11:11:57] <r3v3rb> if only it was real money!
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313: [12:23:04] <swaiba> r3v3rb is that like betting on the pund losing more value?
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316: [12:59:10] <r3v3rb> swaiba: it was - naughty I know!
317: [13:05:17] <r3v3rb> swaiba, I’m seriously considering siwthcing to a live account now that I appear to have a better understanding of the process involved :D and if I could make that every couple of days I’d be a happy bunny!
318: [13:18:35] <r3v3rb> anyone understand why my readonlyfield with an Image being returned in the CMS shows as Image_Cached not the actual image?
319: [13:26:30] <r3v3rb> fixed it… :D LiteralField works better
320: [13:29:54] <swaiba> r3v3rb either that or go down paddy power
321: [13:30:05] <r3v3rb> better odds in CFD's
322: [13:30:10] <r3v3rb> swaiba: :D
323: [13:30:50] <r3v3rb> however Sports Direct are not doing the right thing for me right now! RBS on the other hand are ;)
324: [13:31:39] <r3v3rb> currently up a whopping £1.54p today
325: [13:31:58] <r3v3rb> that’ll buy the kids some pot noodles!
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329: [13:39:32] <slievr> r3v3rb: Do you also regret not buying loads of dollars before the referendum?
330: [13:39:54] <r3v3rb> slievr: sometimes :|
331: [13:40:19] <r3v3rb> $1.5 now $1.29
332: [13:43:05] <slievr> massdrop makes me sad now
333: [13:43:17] <slievr> everything became so much more expensive
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336: [13:56:56] <swaiba> u uk too slievr?
337: [13:59:54] <slievr> mhm
338: [14:00:03] <slievr> up in scotland
339: [14:03:22] <r3v3rb> slievr: scotland = uk still? thought witchbag had you in the EU already ;)
340: [14:04:00] <r3v3rb> jk btw!
341: [14:04:12] <slievr> Still UK but crazy people want us to roll some more dice
342: [14:04:25] <r3v3rb> true
343: [14:04:50] <r3v3rb> stick with us - we’re on the wild ride now!
344: [14:05:21] <r3v3rb> btw, i voted in just in case anyone thinks I’m a crazy xenophobic nazi
345: [14:05:46] <r3v3rb> being half Irish (County Cork) and German (Bavaria) by descent
346: [14:06:00] <slievr> You could still be a crazy xenophobic nazi. Just playing the long game.
347: [14:06:03] <r3v3rb> I had too, along with Spanish children and Wife
348: [14:06:17] <r3v3rb> muhahahahaaaaa slievr I like it!
349: [14:06:23] <r3v3rb> but alas no
350: [14:06:45] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: 52% of the UK are nazis?! shit :P
351: [14:06:54] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: hahah I guess!
352: [14:06:59] <kinglozzer> (I voted remain too btw)
353: [14:07:27] <r3v3rb> that’s why I still support England in the footie - I love being on the losing side ;)
354: [14:07:34] <kinglozzer> Don't diss The Sturgeonator, moving to Scotland is my backup plan if England goes to shit ;)
355: [14:07:43] <kinglozzer> Haha
356: [14:08:05] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: my backup plan -> http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-40627743.html
357: [14:08:27] <kinglozzer> Yeah okay that does look better than Scotland D:
358: [14:08:31] <r3v3rb> I’ll be renting office space if anyone wants to join me!
359: [14:08:58] <slievr> My plan is sweden, better internet
360: [14:09:09] <r3v3rb> slievr: and they speak Scottish
361: [14:09:17] <slievr> I don't =(
362: [14:09:30] <kinglozzer> True, one of my friends in Sweden has gigabit fiber, and I'm struggling with my ~8mbps connect :'(
363: [14:09:39] <kinglozzer> +ion
364: [14:09:39] <r3v3rb> ye, canne spek scoootessh
365: [14:10:16] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: come to the seaside I have 76mbps
366: [14:11:33] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: > http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5459287965
367: [14:11:42] <swaiba> r3v3rb I'm in, but need a bigger pool
368: [14:12:00] <r3v3rb> swaiba: I’ll build a new one in the olive grove ;)
369: [14:13:10] <kinglozzer> also r3v3rb, I'm dreading the prospect brexit pushing the cost of petrol up :(
370: [14:13:27] <r3v3rb> yeeeehaaaaaa, good luck with that kinglozzer :P
371: [14:13:45] <kinglozzer> think I'll be trading in sooner than anticipated :P
372: [14:14:34] <r3v3rb> swaiba: I could always buy this http://www.rightmove.co.uk/overseas-property/property-58880063.html an hour from my mother-in-law and cheap as chips…
373: [14:14:42] <r3v3rb> and only 8 bedrooms!
374: [14:14:48] <r3v3rb> multi office rentals
375: [14:15:22] <slievr> Oooooooo, paragliding
376: [14:15:27] <slievr> what a way to commute
377: [14:16:31] <r3v3rb> slievr: the sick thing is I could sell up - buy that cash and have as much again in the bank courtesy of ridiculous house prices in the south east of england!
378: [14:17:04] <swaiba> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sT9KoII_M <---- that is how to commute slievr
379: [14:17:58] <r3v3rb> swaiba: can you imagine if that became the norm!
380: [14:18:55] <slievr> That'd be awesome. Imagine the skies with all the smoke trails.
381: [14:19:05] <r3v3rb> imagine the insurance!
382: [14:19:25] <slievr> I do wonder if you can get citations for air graffiti.
383: [14:19:59] <r3v3rb> lmao, do a degree in it
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385: [14:58:30] <HD|Laptop> Hi all
386: [14:59:19] <HD|Laptop> I have inherited a SS3.1 project with multiple languages, and have a problem. The Pages editor fields in Main Content (but not in any other tabs!) have no labels when not using en_US locale
387: [14:59:22] <HD|Laptop> $fields->addFieldToTab('Root.Main', new CheckboxField('existsOnMobile', 'Existiert in der mobilen Variante'), 'Content');
388: [15:00:02] <HD|Laptop> this is an example code for one of the fields which loses its label when editing a Spanish or German page, this snippet is from mysite/code/Page.php / getCMSFields
389: [15:00:07] <HD|Laptop> What is going on there?
390: [15:00:30] <HD|Laptop> There's no _t involved so it can't be a missing translation key
391: [15:00:57] <muskie9> HD|Laptop it could be that there's no translation provided since there is no _t()
392: [15:01:23] <HD|Laptop> muskie9: Of course but then it should simply display said German label text?
393: [15:01:28] <muskie9> I'm not exactly sure how it all works, if it should keep the provided title for all langs if no _t is used
394: [15:01:29] <cloph_away> also there's quite a bit of translation stuff in the javascript
395: [15:01:46] <HD|Laptop> cloph_away: nope, the editor HTML outputs with the nolabel class
396: [15:02:18] <HD|Laptop> With a limited bit of var_dump()ing in FormField, I found out that somehow the FormField gets its name set to xxx_Holder
397: [15:06:04] <HD|Laptop> It might also be that something in Translatable, which adds, in small print, the original (en_US) text below the field, may be at fault
398: [15:09:52] <HD|Laptop> muskie9: adding _t and adding translations in de/es/ru/en.yml didn't help
399: [15:10:06] <HD|Laptop> the _t works because in the en_US editor, I get the string from en.yml
400: [15:10:26] <muskie9> do you have a yml file for each of the other languages?
401: [15:10:27] <HD|Laptop> but de_DE,es_ES,ru_RU editors still show no label and the HTML still has nolabel class
402: [15:10:28] <HD|Laptop> yes
403: [15:10:35] <muskie9> flush?
404: [15:10:39] <HD|Laptop> of course, and translation works just fine
405: [15:10:43] <HD|Laptop> already tried
406: [15:12:17] <muskie9> that's odd... I ran across some issues like this but for frontend field labels... had to hack something together but can't remember off hand what it was
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408: [15:14:58] <NETim> Afternoon, trying to add a new action to a modeladmin but can't get it to accept an ID in the url in the normal /action/ID format.
409: [15:15:37] <NETim> Keep getting "I can't handle sub-URLs on class" when I pass it an ID.
410: [15:17:33] <kinglozzer> NETim: Yeah it can be quite picky about URLs. Can you pass the ID some other way? in POST data or something?
411: [15:18:42] <NETim> Can do, just thought I'd try for some consistency.
412: [15:19:10] <NETim> The Silverstripe gods won't smite me down for using request variables then?
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422: [17:57:35] <AlphaCactus> NETim: What SS version? did you try adding a route?
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427: [20:00:22] <ss-helper> Silverstripe UploadField upload multiple image but not all at same time - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38254194/silverstripe-uploadfield-upload-multiple-image-but-not-all-at-same-time
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438: [21:20:43] <robbiea> morning all! QQ re: model relationships..
439: [21:21:30] <robbiea> i've got a "Link" model, and two types of "Block" models. both Blocks has_many Links. SS tells me the Link needs a has_one reciprocating to each Block (call it A and B).
440: [21:21:58] <robbiea> when I add that link I get a dropdown in the CMS for each Block type, but I don't want that - should I use another kind of relationship or remove the fields for the has_ones in the Link?
441: [21:24:56] <muskie9> robbiea if you're using the scaffold fields for the Link model then it shows any db/has_one field... you could do $fields->removeByName(array('RelationNameToBlockAID', 'RelationnameToBlockBID')); in a getCMSFields... **note the ID at the end of each relation name in the array
442: [21:25:25] <robbiea> right - but Link should still has_one = ['BlockA', 'BlockB'] ?
443: [21:26:42] <robbiea> thanks muskie9
444: [21:26:51] <muskie9> yes, a has_many/has_one relation setup between models is tracked on the model with the has_one declared... the db column is the has_one relation name + ID at the end... which ends up being the ID of that other model
445: [21:27:01] <robbiea> nice
446: [21:27:17] * robbiea considers adding that to the docs
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450: [21:38:28] <Nightjar> robbiea, no, you're doing it right, just remove the field if you don't want it. OR use the correct gridfieldconfig if you're managing in gridfield - GridFieldConfig_RelationEditor will hide the reciprocal relation dropdown by default
451: [21:39:08] <robbiea> Nightjar: nah, that's perfect. I've updated the docs to include a little bit from muskie9 about that too
452: [21:39:22] <robbiea> thanks!
453: [21:39:46] <Nightjar> cool, good work chap :>
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455: [21:42:11] <spronk> reason 1974 for wanting to ditch my Mac: fucking FREEZING ALUMINIUM
456: [21:42:18] <spronk> #firstworldproblems
457: [21:43:44] <muskie9> spronk just run a bunch of youtube videos at once with a vm and microsoft office... that'll get it warmed up real quick ;P
458: [21:43:48] <spronk> :D
459: [21:44:00] <spronk> ... alternatively, i could just load itunes
460: [21:44:00] <Nightjar> wholey shit spronk, why haven't you just given it up yet? GET A DELL, GOSH
461: [21:44:07] <robbiea> office by itself should do the trick
462: [21:44:10] <spronk> GET A PERM
463: [21:44:21] <Nightjar> DO IT DOUG
464: [21:44:31] <spronk> ok apple
465: [21:44:32] <spronk> what the fuck
466: [21:44:51] <muskie9> 2017 mac book pro, now with a lap warmer lol
467: [21:45:08] <Nightjar> All they were ever good for, right?
468: [21:45:19] <spronk> looool
469: [21:45:20] * Nightjar trolls fanbois
470: [21:45:20] <spronk> http://i.imgur.com/nTs6JxR.png
471: [21:45:24] <spronk> GJ APL
472: [21:45:35] <muskie9> lol
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474: [21:46:30] <spronk> o/ DanaeNZ
475: [21:46:45] <DanaeNZ> spronk \o
476: [21:46:54] <DanaeNZ> haha i need to "escalate a job"
477: [21:46:58] <DanaeNZ> escalate to who?
478: [21:47:00] <DanaeNZ> myself?
479: [21:47:09] <DanaeNZ> Maybe I should put a hat on
480: [21:47:19] <spronk> hat 1: "DanaeNZ"
481: [21:47:20] <DanaeNZ> and become "More senior intermediate dev Danae"
482: [21:47:24] <spronk> hat 2 :DanaeNZ++
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484: [21:47:31] <spronk> lawl
485: [21:47:56] * spronk is prematurely optimising. D':
486: [21:48:14] <DanaeNZ> I think you can take medicine for that
487: [21:48:30] <spronk> wow
488: [21:48:31] <spronk> apparently i actually can't use my trash
489: [21:48:35] <spronk> because something else is using it
490: [21:48:36] <spronk> :/
491: [21:48:42] <DanaeNZ> - spooky music -
492: [21:49:13] <DanaeNZ> R&D day was in my grasp
493: [21:49:16] <DanaeNZ> but not really
494: [21:49:21] <spronk> o_O
495: [21:49:33] <ss23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtUucAcQoaE A BEAR
496: [21:49:34] <ss23> LIVE
497: [21:49:40] <spronk> HOOLY SHIT
498: [21:49:42] <spronk> A BEAR?
499: [21:50:26] <ss23> FUCKING BEARS M8
500: [21:50:55] <ss23> omfg I see fishes jumping
501: [21:51:13] <spronk> HOLY SHIT
502: [21:51:17] <spronk> FUCKING FISHES ?
503: [21:51:19] <spronk> MATE MATE
504: [21:51:21] <spronk> I SEE A LOG
505: [21:51:31] <ss23> Do you think the bear is fishing?
506: [21:51:38] <ss23> I wish my new office had a shared TV so we could stream this
507: [21:51:45] <spronk> new office...
508: [21:51:48] <spronk> where do you work now ss23?
509: [21:51:54] <muskie9> where'd that second bear come from???!!!!
510: [21:52:00] <ss23> OMFG
511: [21:52:02] <ss23> A SECOND BEAR
512: [21:52:04] <spronk> WOAH A SECOND BAR
513: [21:52:05] <ss23> YOU'RE RIGHT
514: [21:52:11] <spronk> ITS A BEARSMOOT
515: [21:52:20] <ss23> um
516: [21:52:29] <ss23> I'm working in wgtn still, just not silverstripe
517: [21:52:32] <ss23> place called zx security
518: [21:52:36] <spronk> ah
519: [21:52:37] <spronk> neat
520: [21:53:11] <DanaeNZ> now you are zx23
521: [21:53:14] <ss23> lol
522: [21:53:26] <ss23> I should go to work
523: [21:53:30] <ss23> "why are you late?"
524: [21:53:33] <ss23> "dude check this out"
525: [21:53:36] <ss23> -> "okay you're forgiven
526: [21:53:37] <DanaeNZ> I'm going to find a coffee before I want to kill myself lel
527: [21:53:38] <spronk> ss23 is a penetration tester
528: [21:53:40] * spronk luls a little
529: [21:53:42] <ss23> spronk: ;)
530: [21:53:42] <DanaeNZ> omg
531: [21:53:43] <DanaeNZ> haha
532: [21:53:54] <ss23> Let me know if your girlfriend wants a free consulatation, spronk
533: [21:53:56] <spronk> OMFG APPLE
534: [21:54:04] <spronk> STOP TELLING ME I CANT USE TRSAH
535: [21:54:25] <ss23> lol
536: [21:54:29] <ss23> bbiab rl
537: [21:54:30] <spronk> ss23 i've already done all the pentesting required on that front
538: [21:55:12] <ss23> spronk: I find there's value in getting another party to penetration test regularly, to make sure you're not neglecting a gaping hole in security
539: [21:55:22] <spronk> lawl
540: [21:55:30] <ss23> Got to check for backdoor access too, you know
541: [21:55:34] <spronk> this conversation could escalate quickly
542: [21:55:42] <ss23> yeah, I'm hoping it doesn't offend anyone :O
543: [21:55:44] <spronk> perhaps I should just claim security by obfuscation
544: [21:55:44] <ss23> We should probably stop not
545: [21:55:45] <ss23> now
546: [21:55:52] <ss23> spronk: chix with dix?
547: [21:55:57] <spronk> lol
548: [21:56:03] <ss23> okay 4 reals going to work bbiab
549: [21:56:14] <spronk> BAI
550: [21:56:17] <Stomach> zx23
551: [21:56:30] <spronk> sounds like a nissan amirite
552: [21:57:00] <muskie9> well, time to go out and fine some new pokemon
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554: [21:57:40] <spronk> oh wow
555: [21:58:27] <DanaeNZ> my phone is too shit for pokemon go
556: [21:58:32] <DanaeNZ> life is not worth living
557: [21:58:43] <DanaeNZ> my boyfriend keeps sending me screenshots of his fucking pokemon
558: [21:58:55] <DanaeNZ> there was a weedle on the floor of a cafe
559: [21:59:00] <DanaeNZ> IT WAS SO CUTE
560: [21:59:23] <xyphoid> the AR stuff doesn't work on my phone boo
561: [21:59:41] <spronk> what is a weedle
562: [22:00:08] <DanaeNZ> it's a bug type pokemon
563: [22:00:25] <Hailwood> http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/d/df/013Weedle.png/250px-013Weedle.png
564: [22:07:23] * Azure|dc is now known as Azure
565: [22:11:42] <Nightjar> wholey shit, motherfuck'n bears!
566: [22:13:25] <Nightjar> weedle is the one that turns into a motherfuck'n moth spronk
567: [22:13:43] <spronk> .... that doesn't help me much
568: [22:14:01] <Nightjar> Yeh ikr. Butterfree much better.
569: [22:14:36] <spronk> i never really got into pokemon
570: [22:14:43] <spronk> by the time that shit was out I was already playing C&C
571: [22:14:51] <spronk> and crackcraft
572: [22:14:59] <spronk> i mean zergcraft
573: [22:15:01] <spronk> i mean koreacraft
574: [22:16:52] <Nightjar> Wholey shit, THREE BEARS
575: [22:17:37] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
576: [22:17:44] <zippy> Morning
577: [22:17:50] <zippy> Whats http://docs.platform.silverstripe.com/development/modules/ done with (the system)
578: [22:17:51] <Nightjar> https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-kgBi8HEJK_0%2FTh-eS1Upq5I%2FAAAAAAAAAh0%2Fl4az6sHZ82c%2Fs1600%2Fcount-von-count-of-sesame-street2.jpg&t=564&c=TJCRC1gNN-kzng
579: [22:17:56] <zippy> It doesn't feel like silverstripe, it's too fast..
580: [22:18:09] <Nightjar> caching? idk.
581: [22:18:32] <zippy> asset paths are wrong as well
582: [22:18:46] <zippy> the sauce code doesn't look like typical SS
583: [22:19:00] <DanaeNZ> aw yiss, I have been supplied with a raspberry whit chocolate muffin
584: [22:19:09] <DanaeNZ> *
585: [22:19:38] <Nightjar> shit, thought you were gonna say raspberry pi
586: [22:19:46] <spronk> ohhhhhhh
587: [22:19:47] * spronk wants
588: [22:19:48] <Nightjar> U DISSAPOINT
589: [22:20:02] <spronk> holy fuck ,that is zippy zippy
590: [22:20:14] <zippy> spronk: sure is
591: [22:20:30] <spronk> oh
592: [22:20:31] <spronk> its not even SS
593: [22:20:33] <spronk> look at the <head>
594: [22:20:34] <zippy> i know..
595: [22:20:41] <zippy> [10:18:46] <zippy> the sauce code doesn't look like typical SS
596: [22:20:44] <spronk> o
597: [22:20:44] <spronk> :D
598: [22:21:08] <zippy> no assets or themes as well..
599: [22:21:12] <zippy> no, I wonder what it's done with..
600: [22:21:22] <zippy> micmania1: spronk ss23 ... someone will know :)
601: [22:21:29] <zippy> sminnee: , not spronk :P
602: [22:21:32] <zippy> (sorry spronk )
603: [22:21:36] <spronk> :P
604: [22:22:45] <micmania1> zippy: Its static and runs on S3. Its some go markdown thing
605: [22:22:57] <zippy> yea, do you know what it is?
606: [22:23:59] <micmania1> I think this: https://gohugo.io/overview/introduction/
607: [22:24:12] <zippy> http://www.mkdocs.org/#overview looks imilar as well (thou not go)
608: [22:24:30] <spronk> interesting
609: [22:26:17] <zippy> mm is, thanks micmania1
610: [22:28:32] <Nightjar> FOUR BEARS!!! AH AH AAAHHHHH https://lost100pounds.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/count.jpg
611: [22:28:58] <spronk> lawl
612: [22:29:06] <spronk> new job must be super busy Nightjar
613: [22:29:10] <zippy> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/66049166.jpg
614: [22:29:27] <zippy> 5 ^
615: [22:31:13] * DarjusIT_ quit (Quit: Leaving)
616: [22:32:16] * DorsaiNZ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
617: [22:39:04] <DanaeNZ> what the fuck is this bears
618: [22:41:09] <Nightjar> scroll up for happyness DanaeNZ
619: [22:41:19] <Nightjar> spronk, actually ss23 lied, he came here instead.
620: [22:41:30] <spronk> o_O
621: [22:41:42] <DanaeNZ> omg bears
622: [22:41:47] <Nightjar> Although he was coming to get his keyboard, on the way to his job
623: [22:41:52] <spronk> lawl wtf
624: [22:42:04] <Nightjar> idk
625: [22:42:07] <Nightjar> ss23 man.
626: [22:42:11] <spronk> fucking ss23
627: [22:42:17] <Nightjar> he is what he is.
628: [22:42:44] <DanaeNZ> live bears on my computer aw yiss
629: [22:43:20] <DanaeNZ> HE GOT ONE
630: [22:44:51] <spronk> YA
631: [22:44:52] <spronk> Y
632: [22:46:23] <spronk> anyone here do any woodworking?
633: [22:47:22] <DanaeNZ> I wish
634: [22:47:33] <DanaeNZ> I can't nail a box together without it being wonky though
635: [22:47:41] <spronk> :D
636: [22:47:46] <spronk> ...NOONE CAN
637: [22:48:30] <DanaeNZ> good
638: [22:48:33] <DanaeNZ> no, wait, bad
639: [22:49:14] <DanaeNZ> omg
640: [22:49:16] <DanaeNZ> it's Friday
641: [22:49:20] <DanaeNZ> I thought it was like
642: [22:49:22] <DanaeNZ> Tuesday
643: [22:49:30] <spronk> wow
644: [22:49:35] <zippy> in no timezones is it Tuesday...
645: [22:49:46] <zippy> so you can't even say "somewhere it's Tuesday..
646: [22:49:53] <DanaeNZ> my days have all blurred together
647: [22:50:16] <zippy> that cocaine eh..
648: [22:50:19] <DanaeNZ> this intermediary API is written in L-word
649: [22:50:27] <DanaeNZ> so I have to learn L-word
650: [22:50:51] <spronk> o_O
651: [22:50:53] <spronk> L-word?
652: [22:51:01] <DanaeNZ> La
653: [22:51:03] <DanaeNZ> Lar
654: [22:51:08] <spronk> lul
655: [22:51:11] <spronk> LARAYES
656: [22:51:15] <DanaeNZ> LARANOOOO
657: [22:51:34] <DanaeNZ> I have no idea why it's decided to stop logging
658: [22:52:35] <zippy> DanaeNZ: it's not that bad... open the public/index.php and after <?php put in a "sleep(1);" which then should put the speed on pah with what your used to
659: [22:52:44] <DanaeNZ> lmaaooo
660: [22:53:26] * DanaeNZ whispers into computer: "hey...logging....hey please work"
661: [22:53:32] <DanaeNZ> that usually works
662: [22:54:08] <zippy> Is it just using the default log to write the log file in storage/logs or something else
663: [22:55:30] <DanaeNZ> nah it was working before
664: [22:55:42] <DanaeNZ> probably it just didn't hit any of the Log things
665: [22:56:22] <ss23> I went to work just slowly!
666: [22:58:22] <zippy> DanaeNZ: so cryptic :)
667: [23:03:38] <spronk> man
668: [23:03:40] <spronk> paul sellars
669: [23:03:45] <spronk> is crazy good woodworker
670: [23:04:05] <spronk> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc3EpWncNq5QL0QhwUNQb7w
671: [23:04:09] <DanaeNZ> is that the guy who makes pliers from wood?
672: [23:04:20] <spronk> he looks like a rapist
673: [23:04:20] <spronk> but
674: [23:07:44] <spronk> it also takes 1.5x speed to make him sound like he's talking normally fast
675: [23:10:43] <zippy> might do a marathon before I make some raised garden beds this weekend..
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677: [23:11:56] <spronk> brah
678: [23:12:02] * spronk might buy a mitre saw this weekend
679: [23:12:10] <spronk> because fuck the handsaw
680: [23:12:18] <zippy> man I was just thinking that
681: [23:12:23] <spronk> :D
682: [23:12:32] <spronk> i made a couple of little shelf things last weekend with the handsaw and mitre box
683: [23:12:42] <spronk> fuck its a pain to get repeatable cuts
684: [23:13:19] <zippy> mm 214 for cheapist
685: [23:13:30] <spronk> hmm
686: [23:13:30] <spronk> what is?
687: [23:13:45] <spronk> mitre10 opened a new store here last? weekend... had a makita sliding compound for like $300 ..i waslike :O
688: [23:14:26] <zippy> https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-slide-compound-mitre-saw-1600w-254mm-ozscms1600wa_p00190754
689: [23:14:32] <zippy> makita be the tits
690: [23:14:36] <zippy> but I would use it like... twice a year
691: [23:14:39] <zippy> so I am ok buying a shit one
692: [23:14:40] <spronk> mm
693: [23:14:44] <spronk> yeh
694: [23:14:53] <spronk> i was contemplating buying a really basic one
695: [23:14:56] <spronk> non sliding
696: [23:14:58] <spronk> but then... hmm
697: [23:15:09] <zippy> https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/makita-maktec-compound-mitre-saw-255mm/p/178065
698: [23:15:10] <spronk> fuck $214 isn't bad..
699: [23:15:30] <spronk> that's not bad either..
700: [23:15:47] <spronk> even the ryobiwan is more expensive
701: [23:16:17] <spronk> hmm
702: [23:16:17] <zippy> mmm but that has a fricken laser beam
703: [23:16:20] <spronk> lolya
704: [23:16:30] <spronk> blacky decky $329
705: [23:16:30] <spronk> what a rip
706: [23:16:32] <spronk> bosch green is only $20 more
707: [23:16:33] <zippy> might borrow my father inlaws... give it a spin
708: [23:16:40] <zippy> see how many fingers I can loose
709: [23:16:41] * spronk would much rather have bosch green than b&d
710: [23:16:43] <spronk> :D
711: [23:16:50] <spronk> my bosch green circ saw has been boss
712: [23:16:54] * shellbackpacific quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
713: [23:17:03] * zippy wonders what the f he was doing 10 mins ago
714: [23:17:14] * spronk gave up trying to work this morning
715: [23:17:22] <spronk> hmm
716: [23:17:30] <spronk> wonder what the supercheap shit is like
717: [23:17:33] <zippy> mm not much of an option for that here... client all like "where my stuf at"
718: [23:17:40] <spronk> http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online-store/products/Rockwell-ShopSeries-Mitre-Saw-254mm-Sliding-1600-Watt.aspx?pid=220510#Recommendations
719: [23:17:58] <zippy> lol looks just like a rebrand of that one I put up
720: [23:18:01] <spronk> mm
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722: [23:18:20] <zippy> I've used the drill and it lasted 6 years before the power cable gave out (the ol hold it at a certain angle to work)
723: [23:18:28] <zippy> jigsaw is going strong
724: [23:18:44] <spronk> superchepa?
725: [23:18:56] <zippy> ozito stuff
726: [23:18:59] <spronk> ah
727: [23:19:07] <spronk> i had to return 2 ozito jigsaws
728: [23:19:14] <spronk> because the blade guides weren't straight
729: [23:19:22] <zippy> bugger
730: [23:19:32] <spronk> gave up on it, waiting for a nice second hand one
731: [23:19:47] <spronk> used a bosch blue one, soo nice
732: [23:19:50] <spronk> fuck all vibration
733: [23:20:07] <spronk> sigh
734: [23:21:11] <spronk> hmm
735: [23:21:13] <spronk> do i really need it to slide
736: [23:21:41] <zippy> yeap
737: [23:21:45] <zippy> and a laser
738: [23:21:52] <spronk> oh fuck yes
739: [23:21:56] <spronk> gotta have the lazor
740: [23:21:58] <zippy> just don't use it with the cat around..
741: [23:22:00] <zippy> otherwise...
742: [23:22:02] <zippy> bzz
743: [23:22:09] <spronk> HA
744: [23:22:12] <DanaeNZ> I want a laser cutter holy shit
745: [23:22:30] <spronk> mate of mine has a laser cutter
746: [23:22:31] <spronk> and a CNC mill
747: [23:22:33] <spronk> fuuucking cool
748: [23:22:43] <zippy> well, you'd be able to call a mitre saw with a laser a
749: [23:22:58] <spronk> his partner designs, and he makes artworks out of solid chunks of alu
750: [23:23:03] <zippy> "Laser assisted cutter"
751: [23:23:05] <zippy> almost as cool
752: [23:23:06] <spronk> :D
753: [23:23:18] <spronk> hmm
754: [23:23:33] <spronk> $214 for ozito, $299 for mactek, $329 for b&d or ryobiwan, $349 for boosch
755: [23:23:38] <spronk> tough decision
756: [23:24:00] <zippy> "how much overtime do I feel like doing to buy this new toy"
757: [23:24:07] <spronk> ikr
758: [23:24:09] <spronk> ozito has 3y warranty
759: [23:24:42] <spronk> hmm
760: [23:24:49] <spronk> would i ever need more than 120mm of cutting capacity
761: [23:25:04] <spronk> sliding does ~310
762: [23:25:24] * robbiea quit (Remote host closed the connection)
763: [23:26:26] <zippy> https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ozito-slide-compound-mitre-saw-1600w-254mm-ozscms1600wa_p00190754
764: [23:26:30] <spronk> i want a brad nailer
765: [23:26:56] <zippy> get a mate that has a trade account to hook you up then if you going all out
766: [23:27:06] <spronk> hm
767: [23:27:10] <spronk> wonder if i know anyone with a trade account..
768: [23:27:23] <spronk> man
769: [23:27:30] <spronk> i look at the price of all this shit and am like 'fuck so much money'
770: [23:27:32] <spronk> then i look at my phone
771: [23:27:35] <zippy> hahaha
772: [23:27:37] <spronk> that cost like 5x that
773: [23:27:40] <spronk> and it's fucking tiny
774: [23:27:54] <zippy> mitre saw aint going to tell you tomorrows weather
775: [23:28:04] <zippy> or play games while your sitting on the throne
776: [23:28:11] <spronk> true
777: [23:28:18] <spronk> but i could have just got a fuckin... galaxy j1
778: [23:28:30] <spronk> and then bought a bunch of man tools
779: [23:28:30] <spronk> instead of slaving away for hours with cheap shitty hand tools
780: [23:28:32] <spronk> lol
781: [23:29:02] <zippy> It's like looking at two boxes of beer, the better stuff is $3 more but $19 vs $22 just seems like so much more!
782: [23:29:07] <spronk> mm
783: [23:29:07] <spronk> lol
784: [23:50:53] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)

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