#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 26 January 2016

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2: [00:00:53] <muskie9> it's building the model admin for the model class provided by $this->modelClass iirc
3: [00:01:27] <muskie9> ModelAdmin manages a specific model, so if it's a relation based on the class you're managing to another class then it would probably be scaffold fields
4: [00:02:11] <muskie9> depending on how you have getCMSFields() implemented on the class you're managing
5: [00:03:32] <muskie9> FormScaffolder would build the fields for a DataObject if nothing was provided other than referencing parent::getCMSFields(); in your DataObject... http://api.silverstripe.org/3.2/source-class-FormScaffolder.html#2-196
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7: [00:08:06] <Marketo> muskie9: Exactly. ModelAdmin has modelClass === 'Type' and Type has_many Item(s). I'm trying to find the code that automatically builds the Item's gridfield. $this->dbObject('Objects') is NULL, so I can't run ->scaffoldFormField() on it. I'll check out FormScaffolder.
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9: [00:19:47] <Marketo> muskie9: that was it. thanks. Sadly, nothing I can reuse from it :(
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17: [01:31:03] <DanaeNZ> oh man so tired
18: [01:31:10] <DanaeNZ> nearly nodded off
19: [01:31:16] <DanaeNZ> i blame this heat
20: [01:31:34] <ss23> yeah
21: [01:31:38] <ss23> what was nz thinking while I was away
22: [01:31:38] <ss23> >.<
23: [01:31:41] <ss23> getting all hot and shit
24: [01:31:55] <ss23> glad wellington is still tolerable, though it's quite warm in my room which I don't like :(
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26: [01:36:19] <DanaeNZ> I haaate summer
27: [01:36:25] <DanaeNZ> bring back Autum,
28: [01:36:27] <DanaeNZ> autumn*
29: [01:36:30] <xyphoid> wellington was muggy as hell over the weekend, i did not enjoy it
30: [01:38:19] <ss23> this is the hottest it'll be for the next 7 days the forecast says though, which is nice
31: [01:38:38] <helenclarko> Hey all, dumb question, I am outputting an iframe using textfield. However the iframe is just being output as plain text. can I use something like $youtubeiframe.NONSAFECODING or some shit.
32: [01:39:39] <ss23> .RAW is the one you use, but idk if it's "correct" in this case
33: [01:40:23] <helenclarko> ss23: LIFE-SAVER!
34: [01:40:36] <helenclarko> May not be correct, but it worked.
35: [01:44:20] <ss23> ^.^
36: [01:45:06] <helenclarko> I knew it was .SOMETHING, but couldnt for the life of me remember what it was.
37: [01:46:03] <helenclarko> DanaeNZ: Need more hot weather, heading to -20 degree Canada in a month.
38: [01:48:16] <DanaeNZ> I want to go see some snow
39: [01:49:25] <ss23> psh
40: [01:49:32] <helenclarko> I dont
41: [01:49:33] <ss23> I was in NYC just before that storm hit
42: [01:49:42] <ss23> I was up on top of the empire state building without a proper jacket while it was starting to snow
43: [01:49:46] <ss23> It was bad
44: [01:49:48] <ss23> :(
45: [01:49:55] <ss23> I'd rather have my 15c
46: [01:50:18] <DanaeNZ> 15C would also be nice
47: [01:50:50] <helenclarko> anything over 20c but under 30c
48: [01:51:29] <vitaly> snow can be fun
49: [01:51:39] <vitaly> but not every winter
50: [01:51:54] <helenclarko> ^^^ For half an hour MAX!
51: [01:52:25] <vitaly> until your nose starts leaking
52: [01:53:05] <ss23> can't imagine how bad snow would suck here in wgtn >.<
53: [01:53:11] <ss23> wind chill + snow == death
54: [01:53:24] <helenclarko> I have a real thing about having wet clothing, so snow is the worst! That and biking in the rain... EWUGH!
55: [01:55:25] <DanaeNZ> I've only been in the snow once and that was up Ruapehu and it started snowing
56: [01:55:33] <ss23> :O
57: [01:55:41] <ss23> I used to live in south island, so had snow ,but not for a long time
58: [01:56:12] <helenclarko> DanaeNZ: YOU HAVEN'T LIVED! But snow is still shitty!
59: [01:56:39] <vitaly> I've lived in Siberia, had enough snow for now :)
60: [01:57:11] <chrisrio> it sounds like you guys are pretty much deathly allergic to outside.
61: [01:57:17] <ss23> Yeah
62: [01:57:18] <chrisrio> maybe cut back on that
63: [01:57:22] <ss23> Over 25c? OH MAN IT'S TOO HOT
64: [01:57:26] <ss23> Under 10c? JESUS IT'S COLD
65: [01:57:30] <ss23> :D
66: [01:57:54] <helenclarko> chrisrio: I went outside once, Graphics were cool, Gameplay sucked!
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68: [01:59:27] <vitaly> xD
69: [01:59:37] <chrisrio> helenclarko: and people got pissed when you kept switching to knife amirite?
70: [01:59:45] <DanaeNZ> but it makes you run faster
71: [01:59:56] <helenclarko> chrisrio: HAHAHA!
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73: [02:12:41] <muskie9> Marketo glad that was it, too bad you can't re-use any of it
74: [02:13:06] <Marketo> ya
75: [02:16:55] <spronk> pork riblet
76: [02:17:02] <spronk> surprisingly good on a coler day
77: [02:17:04] <spronk> cooler*
78: [02:17:20] <spronk> #meatismurdertastytastymurder
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80: [02:25:25] <helenclarko> So while everyone is here, is it possible to mask a subsite, nz.domain.com as domain.com/nz? I know zippy, gave me an answer to this, but it was a rewrite rule not a mask.
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83: [02:34:54] <muskie9> when 3.3.0 is released will the 3.1.x series be unsupported?
84: [02:36:30] <muskie9> since SS is now semvar, or what's the lifetime support looking like
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86: [02:38:39] <micmania1> muskie9: not sure but I doubt we’d drop support for it. Maybe post on the dev list and ask?
87: [02:39:34] <muskie9> will do, was asking because of the last bullet in the "Supported versions" portion of Release Process in the docs... Security fixes will be applied to the current master and the previous two major releases (e.g. 4.0, 3.2 and 3.1).
88: [02:40:00] <micmania1> yep, that’s always been the rule but with quicker releases I doubt that would stay the same.
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94: [02:55:15] <Guest63616> Hi to all, sudden;y, the visibility checkbox disappeared from the CMS. What gives?
95: [02:56:26] <muskie9> Guest63616 do you mean the Show In Menus checkbox?
96: [02:57:46] <Guest63616> <muskie9>Yes, my CMS is in French. The words SHOW IN MENUS is there, but no checkbox. No error in the console.
97: [02:58:39] <muskie9> Guest63616 do you have any DataExtensions applied to Page.php adjusting fields via updateCMSFields?
98: [02:58:53] <muskie9> or when did this start happening, did you upgrade?
99: [03:02:14] <Guest63616> <muskie9>Client just noticed me that the page wasn't visible. When i check into the CMS, saw that checkbox was missing. Oddly, i went into the DB, and managed to change the value of SHOW IN MENU from 0 to 1 into the line. No effect. DO i have to do anything else to have the DB reflects the change?
100: [03:03:32] <muskie9> if you change it directly in the db then no, but it's odd that it's not showing in the cms... what version are you running?
101: [03:05:00] <Guest63616> <muskie9>Oddest yte, it came back!!!!!!
102: [03:05:13] <micmania1> Guest63616: You need to update the correct table in the db. SiteTree is the stage version and SiteTree_Live is the published version. If you want the change to take effect on the live site you need to update SiteTree_Live.
103: [03:05:18] <muskie9> the mysteries of the interwebs
104: [03:05:37] <Guest63616> <muskie9>I never remember how to identify myself when i come here, so my nick is changed to Guest. What to do?
105: [03:05:50] <muskie9> are you in the web interface?
106: [03:06:21] <Guest63616> <muskie9>You mean the IRC page? Yes.. Is it /myname *myname ?
107: [03:06:32] <muskie9> https://irc.silverstripe.org/
108: [03:06:48] <muskie9> if you use the link above there's a nickname field before it puts you in the channel
109: [03:07:21] <muskie9> otherwise I'm not sure, I have my irc client setup from a long way back and never remember the commands
110: [03:07:51] <Guest63616> <muskie9>I know, but when i am logged in, it say : YOU FAIL TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF....
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112: [03:09:28] <someRandomNickna> I didn't seem to get the error when using the silverstripe irc link and putting in a random nickname...
113: [03:11:23] <Guest63616> <muskie9>Using SS3.0.3. An old site that i have to update. Later. Thanks!
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117: [03:32:24] <camfindlay> anyone used this module before? https://github.com/sminnee/silverstripe-staticsiteconnector
118: [03:32:53] <muskie9> camfindlay I had tried a long time ago with no luck, been meaning to give it another try
119: [03:33:12] <camfindlay> got it working however find it drops urls when the site gets a bit more complex. Trying to work out if it it’s my host setup or the module itself.
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121: [03:33:44] <camfindlay> muskie9: give me a yell if you try it again sometime.
122: [03:33:49] <muskie9> will do
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125: [03:50:34] <MichalKleiner> hey champs
126: [03:51:07] <MichalKleiner> how do you usually approach custom image markup for images within the wysiwyg area? some output processing? or onBeforeWrite processing?
127: [03:51:27] <MichalKleiner> I found the markup for images is hardcoded in the JS..
128: [03:52:08] <MichalKleiner> I have a working way with a parses that processes the markup on output and swaps the markup for what I need but it doesn't feel 100% right and effective
129: [04:12:14] <nontgor> MichalKleiner: Do you mean alter image markup from TinyMCE after a save?
130: [04:12:47] <MichalKleiner> yep, for the use in the tempalte..
131: [04:12:51] <MichalKleiner> *template
132: [04:13:22] <MichalKleiner> so it can look in TinyMCE as it does now, just need to replace it with something custom before rendering
133: [04:13:41] <nontgor> If so have a look at https://github.com/gordonbanderson/responsive-mce-images/ - it manipulates the output for Foundation happy responsive images. Should give you a good idea of where to change things
134: [04:15:26] <nontgor> MichalKleiner: https://github.com/gordonbanderson/responsive-mce-images/blob/master/code/RemoveImageSourceAttribute.php tweaks the HTML
135: [04:15:32] <MichalKleiner> thanks, that looks good
136: [04:17:17] <nontgor> cool
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141: [04:41:04] <Stomach> uh oh
142: [04:41:14] <Stomach> my face is about it go on a nationwide campaign
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144: [05:15:58] <nontgor> Stomach: The face of SilverStripe?
145: [05:16:13] <Stomach> the face of 5+ a Day
146: [05:16:29] <Stomach> not sure if its live yet or not: http://www.getitin.co.nz/
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153: [06:14:12] <spronk> lool
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155: [06:19:38] <ohone> hallo?
156: [06:20:17] <ohone> could someone help me with CSS and menu structure? images aren't loading and subpages aren't being themed
157: [06:20:36] <ohone> http://1.tumana.maori.nz page is here
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161: [06:49:44] <ohone> there's something wrong with my theme, it won't load subpages.
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166: [07:15:28] <wmk> ohone, ??
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168: [07:19:41] <Mike123> Ahoy
169: [07:23:08] <wmk> Mike123, ☺/
170: [07:23:17] <wmk> swaiba, did you see that assertchris survey about blogging?
171: [07:23:31] <swaiba> Morning all
172: [07:23:41] <swaiba> no wmk, link?
173: [07:23:44] <wmk> https://assertchris.typeform.com/to/WqB71S
174: [07:28:56] <swaiba> I did see helpful robot now gets a blog post... https://www.silverstripe.org/blog/a-message-from-helpful-robot/
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186: [08:54:07] <Misa_> Hi
187: [08:54:24] * Misa_ is now known as Guest9755
188: [08:55:02] <Guest9755> i want to make an intro page with 3 language
189: [08:55:18] <Guest9755> how i can handle it with fluent addon
190: [08:55:51] <Guest9755> the intro page only contains a logo & buttons for languages
191: [08:56:54] <Guest9755> after click the one languages this have to go home page on each languages
192: [08:58:20] <Guest9755> for example abc.com is my intro page after selecting languages go to abc.com/en or abc.com/se
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198: [09:03:44] <mobiusnz> hey, how do I make sure that content inserted via a template gets processed (ie sitetree id links get turned into real links)?
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200: [09:05:16] <Guest9755> @mobiusnz can you explain more
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203: [09:06:45] <mobiusnz> Guest9755: I have 'CheckboxField('Agree', $this->PurchaseTerms ));' in my form. PurchaseTerms is an html field that can have links. The link shows up as /[sitetree_link,id=8] as opposed to the actual url of the page
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207: [09:12:42] <kinglozzer> mobiusnz: $this->dbObject('PurchaseTerms')->forTemplate()
208: [09:13:39] <mobiusnz> kinglozzer: ty
209: [09:14:01] <Guest9755> Thanks guys
210: [09:27:14] <Guest9755> but we have many languages in this website and i want to handle it with fluent addon, i have to make my intro page on HomePage.ss and my home page (in languages) on page.ss ??!!
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231: [13:02:34] <SH__> Hey guys im trying to use Mark Guinns silverstripe email helps module to use SMTP on my site. Im testing on a local machine with MAMP PRO.
232: [13:02:48] <SH__> Im getting the following error OpenSSL error: certificate verify failed
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234: [13:03:12] <SH__> Any ideas?
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243: [14:22:54] <r3v3rb> C O F F E E E E E E T I M E E E E E E E E E!!!!
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245: [14:24:50] <r3v3rb> okay, why has 3.1.15 => 3.2 (Stable) changed routing - I had a class that used: public static $url_handlers = array( 'purchase/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID' => 'purchase' ); as it way to route calls from domain.com/purchase etc etc and it worked a treat. Updated site to 3.2.* and now i get page cannot be found. So added routes.yml and made the necessary connection there but nothing…
246: [14:26:57] <r3v3rb> did /dev/build?flush=1 too
247: [14:28:44] <r3v3rb> Debug page shows : purchase/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID = Purchase so its aware
248: [14:30:32] <r3v3rb> Damn it $Action missing?!?
249: [14:31:58] <rista> Hey guys, I need help about fluent domain links. I have www.domain.com and www.domain.nl. The problem is that urls for other pages goes to /nl/page instead to only /page. I implemented this solution from: https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-fluent/commit/b4de872194fc0353c107bde753410a466bbf7d4d but still can't make it to work without the locale prefix.
250: [14:32:49] <rista> I also setup Config::inst()->update('Fluent', 'force_domain', true); and all this works fine in the backend, but problem are the links in frontend
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253: [15:20:07] <Firesphere> Hello world.
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255: [15:28:51] <r3v3rb> Firesphere: goto 10;
256: [15:29:07] <Firesphere> Hello world.
257: [15:30:14] <r3v3rb> Firesphere: 10 gosub 15; 15 Print “Hello World.”; 20 goto 10;
258: [15:30:37] * r3v3rb not enjoying routing thats changed
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260: [15:31:15] <Firesphere> Errrr, I don't think the admins would like me to run that r3v3rb
261: [15:31:27] <r3v3rb> Firesphere: do it :D
262: [15:31:37] <Firesphere> No way, I'd be out of a job then!
263: [15:32:26] <r3v3rb> if you can figure out this weird routing change I’ll employ you
264: [15:32:27] <r3v3rb> :D
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266: [15:36:00] <Firesphere> What's your weird routing problem?
267: [15:37:04] <r3v3rb> erm had a class that extended controller in 3.1.15: public static $url_handlers = array( 'purchase/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID' => 'purchase' ); as it way to route calls from domain.com/purchase etc etc and it worked a treat. Updated site to 3.2.* and now i get page cannot be found.
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270: [15:37:53] <r3v3rb> slowly figuring it and making changes elsewhere as urlParams has different values now in 3.2
271: [15:37:54] <Firesphere> Move your url handler to yml
272: [15:38:18] <r3v3rb> Firesphere: tried that, screwed with some of the class logic though when submitting forms
273: [15:38:41] <Firesphere> could you get me an sspaste?
274: [15:38:55] <Firesphere> Because something like this should work: http://sspaste.com/paste/show/569d2875347c0
275: [15:39:09] <Firesphere> Only problem, if the Controller name clashes with a URLSegment, things break.
276: [15:39:17] <r3v3rb> aye thats exactly what I had
277: [15:39:53] <Firesphere> And if you add a priority?
278: [15:39:59] <r3v3rb> mine was ‘purchase/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID’: ‘Purchase’
279: [15:40:26] <r3v3rb> then i tried with ‘purchase//$Action/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID’: ‘Purchase’
280: [15:40:28] <r3v3rb> too
281: [15:40:37] <Firesphere> I'd name it PurchaseController, unless it's part of the SiteTree as well
282: [15:40:53] <Firesphere> And point 'purchase//stuff': PurchaseController
283: [15:41:15] <r3v3rb> well the class is called ‘Purchase’ not ‘PurchaseController’ ;)
284: [15:41:27] <Firesphere> Using a pointer with a generic name ("purchase"), isn't really a good idea.
285: [15:41:38] <Firesphere> It's too easy to break in the SiteTree
286: [15:41:39] <r3v3rb> so maybe its a clash of clashing clashes
287: [15:41:46] <Firesphere> Rename the Class then?
288: [15:41:58] <r3v3rb> guess so
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290: [15:42:37] <Firesphere> Clash of clashing classes. That sounds like an applaud :P
291: [15:44:09] <r3v3rb> clash of clashing classes = current state of british politics - tory v labour v snp divide
292: [15:44:31] <Firesphere> Same as the Dutch politics :X
293: [15:44:33] <Firesphere> Glad I'm leaving
294: [15:44:49] * r3v3rb wants to buy a camper van and disappear
295: [15:45:07] <Firesphere> Just go to New Zealand like I am doing :D
296: [15:45:14] <r3v3rb> would be nice
297: [15:45:32] <Firesphere> Arch Enemy full volume during a customer call is NOT a good way to impress customers by the way
298: [15:46:04] <r3v3rb> probs not
299: [15:48:50] <r3v3rb> bp on line 52 : http://sspaste.com/paste/show/56a7954d8afbb never gets called :(
300: [15:48:57] <r3v3rb> Firesphere: ^^
301: [15:49:35] <r3v3rb> eek! just added $Action which i forgot!
302: [15:53:57] <r3v3rb> arhhh, ffs I give up i’m going back to 3.1.15
303: [15:54:06] <r3v3rb> when things just worked
304: [15:55:50] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Why did you move it out of url_handlers?
305: [15:56:14] <r3v3rb> one mo, kinglozzer maths homework
306: [15:56:28] <kinglozzer> If you had private static $url_handlers = array( 'purchase/$ID/$OtherID/$MessageID/$TestID' => 'purchase' );, you probably need 'purchase' to be in your allowed_actions too
307: [15:56:54] <Firesphere> Yes, you need to have it allowed indeed.
308: [15:57:02] <Firesphere> I assumed it was actually....
309: [15:57:05] <r3v3rb> okay lemme try dat in a minute
310: [15:57:16] <kinglozzer> I'm trying to get ~800mb uploads over HTTP to work :(
311: [15:57:17] <r3v3rb> i’d like to hook up the site with 3.2 if possible
312: [15:57:37] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: you need my 40mb upload here then :)
313: [15:57:42] <kinglozzer> The issue I've hit now is that /tmp is too full to handle anything bigger :P
314: [15:57:47] <r3v3rb> lol
315: [15:58:04] <r3v3rb> why does norwich airport need 800mb uploads !?!? :P
316: [16:01:26] <Firesphere> 40mb upload?
317: [16:01:28] <Firesphere> Buh.
318: [16:02:08] <Firesphere> I'm going to miss my internetspeed :'(
319: [16:02:46] <Firesphere> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5030742100
320: [16:04:05] <r3v3rb> that is sick
321: [16:04:32] <Firesphere> Fiber FTW :D
322: [16:05:13] <r3v3rb> we have fiber but only to the junction not the final stretch from junction to house
323: [16:05:27] <r3v3rb> and ISP’s here are loath to go faster yet
324: [16:05:31] <Firesphere> That's a bummer.
325: [16:05:36] <Firesphere> Everything here is FTTH
326: [16:05:37] <r3v3rb> only one is offering 200mb
327: [16:05:54] <r3v3rb> max on all others (commercial) is 80mb
328: [16:06:15] <Firesphere> I wonder what I'll be able to get in NZ
329: [16:06:21] <r3v3rb> dial up
330: [16:06:43] <Firesphere> Ow god, I hope not.
331: [16:07:17] <r3v3rb> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/56a7999f30d16 <- original class and url_handler that worked fine in 3.1.15
332: [16:07:40] <Firesphere> It's not the allowed actions that's causing issues?
333: [16:07:59] <r3v3rb> nope added ‘purchase’ to it and it still 404/not found
334: [16:08:06] <Firesphere> Hmmm, 100NZ$/month for gigabit internet :(
335: [16:08:10] <Firesphere> Did you flush?
336: [16:08:15] <r3v3rb> always
337: [16:08:22] <r3v3rb> and dev/build too
338: [16:08:35] <Firesphere> Really weird, it should just work.
339: [16:08:44] <r3v3rb> that’s what i thought
340: [16:08:50] <wmk> kinglozzer, one quick question: on a page with translatable dataobjects and too many languages i got an error Row size too large (> 8126).
341: [16:08:56] <r3v3rb> means my pdt and ipn classes might have trouble too
342: [16:09:04] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: For all the hacks ;D
343: [16:09:14] <wmk> changing in phpmyadmin to ROW_FORMAT=COMPRESSED seemed to help
344: [16:09:27] <r3v3rb> all the hacks? which ones?
345: [16:09:44] <wmk> any idea to tell the DataObject on dev/build to set this row format?
346: [16:10:10] <kinglozzer> wmk: Hmm, sorry - I've only ever encountered it a few times when I just switched to using Text or something instead
347: [16:10:19] <kinglozzer> wmk: Is that part of the create table syntax or something?
348: [16:10:24] <r3v3rb> ok, composer downgrade in process
349: [16:10:26] <wmk> could be
350: [16:10:42] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: I jest, there are none any more
351: [16:10:43] <wmk> kinglozzer, or ALTER TABLE
352: [16:10:49] <wmk> see also https://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/37158
353: [16:10:56] <r3v3rb> pah, because kinglozzer fixed them ;)
354: [16:11:17] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Yeah, by removing the old site :P
355: [16:11:32] <r3v3rb> lmao, i like it
356: [16:12:01] <Firesphere> wmk: It's the limit of the InnoDB engine. Just tell SilverStripe for which classes it should use MyIsam
357: [16:12:03] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: i might try that - client here’s your upgraded site - blank page after blank page
358: [16:12:17] <kinglozzer> wmk: create_table_options perhaps?
359: [16:14:29] <wmk> kinglozzer, looks good
360: [16:14:35] <wmk> have to dig in later
361: [16:14:53] <r3v3rb> wahahahahaaaaaa, downgraded and works…
362: [16:15:03] <r3v3rb> time to stay still on version number
363: [16:15:04] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Well, that was part 1. Part 2 was rebuilding it in a CMS that isn't complete shite
364: [16:15:27] <kinglozzer> Which is why we chose Wordpress over SilverStripe
365: [16:15:32] <kinglozzer> JOKING
366: [16:15:36] <kinglozzer> Of course :P
367: [16:16:02] <r3v3rb> when can i get realtime emails for flight details like stansted?
368: [16:16:28] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: When the airport development fee is quadrupled
369: [16:16:35] <kinglozzer> I think they have an app though
370: [16:16:38] <r3v3rb> quadrupled!?!
371: [16:16:39] * kinglozzer hasn't looked at it
372: [16:16:46] <Firesphere> wmk: add the following to the classes that cause problems:
373: [16:16:52] <r3v3rb> you want £2000 just to add emails!
374: [16:17:09] <Firesphere> private static $create_table_options = array('MySQLDatabase' => 'ENGINE=MyISAM');
375: [16:17:23] <Firesphere> Then, you're on MyISAM, and not running into the limit of InnoDB anymore.
376: [16:17:23] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Hahaha, that sounds like a reasonable charge to me
377: [16:17:28] <wmk> but i cannot alter the engine in a live db?
378: [16:17:38] <kinglozzer> £500/hour
379: [16:18:03] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: does the parking pre-book have any way of knowing capacity or is it blind?
380: [16:18:06] <Firesphere> Errr, why shouldn't you?
381: [16:18:13] <wmk> ok.
382: [16:18:14] <Firesphere> It's just a dev/build
383: [16:18:19] * kinglozzer dreams about being able to charge anything like that
384: [16:18:20] <wmk> sounds nice ;)
385: [16:18:27] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: No idea, it's just a widget
386: [16:18:51] <kinglozzer> Oh, no, it doesn't
387: [16:18:57] <kinglozzer> I just posts to the thirdparty thing
388: [16:19:44] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: i see dat, also its temperamental about times - no selection = page refresh on submit
389: [16:20:12] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Yeah I just noticed that, dunno what's going on there
390: [16:20:23] <r3v3rb> looks like I programmed it
391: [16:21:20] <r3v3rb> hehe https://twitter.com/NorwichAirport lmao - they’re an airport and look at the state of the aerial photography! :D
392: [16:22:07] * r3v3rb loves norwich can’t wait to be back there in summer for a weekend or two
393: [16:34:58] <kinglozzer> lol r3v3rb, dat resolution
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395: [16:56:12] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: good innit
396: [16:57:05] <Firesphere> Awesome aerial picture, when you're looking at it on your mobile phone I guess.
397: [16:57:49] <Firesphere> Blargh, can I go to bed now?
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405: [17:35:15] <kinglozzer> <3
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411: [18:29:59] <Firesphere> Home good. Bed better
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415: [19:36:08] <Firesphere> Damn I'm tired.
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417: [19:41:02] <vitaly> morning \o
418: [19:51:11] <Firesphere> Evening \o
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428: [21:10:10] <Firesphere> \o
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438: [22:12:13] <m-re> How many visitors can handle silverstripe same time, one programmer told me that ORM is slow?
439: [22:17:22] <micmania1> m-re: All frameworks i’m aware of use ORM of some sort. If developed correctly silverstripe can handle lots of traffic.
440: [22:28:00] <m-re> Very cool thx. I am just learning it...and i like its architecture.
441: [22:28:36] <zippy> m-re: it can be. how many people are you anticipating?
442: [22:29:24] <m-re> 1000 maybe
443: [22:29:31] <zippy> a second or a day?
444: [22:29:39] <m-re> amaybea second
445: [22:29:49] <zippy> O.o what are you, facebook?
446: [22:29:53] <m-re> A second
447: [22:30:16] <m-re> Fb is lol different sort
448: [22:30:55] <m-re> Sort of cmr system with web
449: [22:31:23] <zippy> and you'd get a thousand people a second?
450: [22:31:46] <zippy> so about 3.6mil every hour
451: [22:31:56] <m-re> Not me but in company i work they probably do in peaks
452: [22:32:21] <zippy> so a crm, so they'd have about 3-4 thousand employees?
453: [22:32:22] <m-re> So maybe not 1000 second but minute
454: [22:32:38] <m-re> Or 10000 in one session
455: [22:32:46] <zippy> define a session
456: [22:33:11] <m-re> Until timeout.. So probably about 5mins
457: [22:33:34] <zippy> so a person is going to be clicking and visting 10,000 links in 5 minutes, or you mean someting else?
458: [22:33:46] <zippy> a session like a word group event and everyone is in there doing things?
459: [22:33:49] <zippy> *work group
460: [22:34:38] <m-re> Well system do events and eshops too
461: [22:35:07] <zippy> well, the silverstripe.org website I am getting about 1 request a second out of with a small test...
462: [22:35:22] <zippy> (being softly softly ofc since it's not mine and production)
463: [22:35:35] <zippy> but then they did that obama site that did way more, but that was heavily cached
464: [22:35:42] <m-re> So in peaks there can be many requests
465: [22:35:51] <zippy> since it's a CRM you wont be caching much
466: [22:37:34] <zippy> one we did a month ago which is just on a single core machine with f all ram is doing around 11 requests a sec
467: [22:38:10] <zippy> I think it's single core.. it's a budget vps in any sense (makes ya wonder why the SS org is so bogged down)
468: [22:38:17] <m-re> Yep cacheing isnt implemented yet but something special that simulate memory sources of data.. So it working with limited data from db in server memory
469: [22:40:04] <micmania1> zippy: ss.org is a heavy site but we have automatic throttling too so you’re probably being limited if you’re trying multiple requests
470: [22:40:15] <zippy> micmania1: doing multiple sources as well
471: [22:40:31] <zippy> but perhaps it is some throlling..
472: [22:40:36] <zippy> * throttling
473: [22:40:52] <m-re> I am asking mainly because ppl write in reviews thats ss is cool but trafic is limited same like drupal etc..
474: [22:41:47] <zippy> yea
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476: [22:42:03] <micmania1> 1000 r/s seems extremely high. Do you have any data to work off?
477: [22:42:21] <m-re> And i watched some stuff from smart ppl in google.. And their reserch about when ppl leave web when its too slow
478: [22:42:28] <micmania1> zippy: we also throttle based on user-agent so if you’re using a common tool it could be throttle there too
479: [22:42:44] <m-re> Its number is shorter each year
480: [22:42:47] <zippy> m-re: do you have logs of your current solution so you can actually see how many you'd be doing
481: [22:43:49] <m-re> Nope .. Iam just asking for compare technologies
482: [22:44:07] <m-re> That system run on .Net
483: [22:44:19] <zippy> and how many servers it running off / specs?
484: [22:44:25] <micmania1> If you’re getting 1000 r/s you’ll probably want to consider infrastructure more than which web framework you’re using.
485: [22:44:40] <micmania1> although both pretty important :p
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487: [22:47:05] <m-re> Well do you think you can made eshop in silverstripe that will be used for New Zealand?
488: [22:47:31] <zippy> sure there are plenty of ecommerce stores done in SS
489: [22:47:36] <Firesphere> I'm just going for a bed :D
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492: [22:49:42] <m-re> I am really not sure why our head programmer told that ORM isnt good enough
493: [22:50:08] <m-re> True is that we have uber robust db
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495: [22:52:18] <micmania1> m-re: https://www.silverstripe.com/assets/2014/Platform-resources/Case-studies/Skinny-mobile-and-SilverStripe-Platform-case-study.pdf
496: [22:58:30] <m-re> Micromania1: its your work?
497: [23:01:50] <zippy> m-re: he works at SS
498: [23:03:00] <m-re> Yep. Browsing it
499: [23:14:18] <m-re> 1
500: [23:16:48] <m-re> http://blog.a-way-out.net/blog/2015/03/27/php-framework-benchmark/
501: [23:17:13] <m-re> Pitty that cant find yet any tests with ss
502: [23:18:11] <m-re> But maybe its wortless tests
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507: [23:37:26] <Colin[pi]> wat
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509: [23:39:29] <travis-ci> dhensby/silverstripe-framework#591 (master - 7b927fe : Daniel Hensby): The build has errored.
510: [23:39:29] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/compare/e74665b639e6...7b927feab979
511: [23:39:29] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/builds/105036801
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513: [23:47:10] <harry1> I'm making changes ot my css and when I refresh changes are not applied
514: [23:47:15] <harry1> I have flushed twice
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516: [23:47:46] <harry1> I have removed an entire style from my stylesheet but it's still being applied and I can see it in inspect elements
517: [23:47:51] <harry1> how and whyt?
518: [23:50:45] <harry1> the only way to fix is to rename the file and change the file being referenced
519: [23:57:28] <Colin[pi]> harry1: is it on a live site? are the styles being combined?

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