#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 18 December 2015

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1: [00:00:31] <Colinglebells> I think avatar was the first modern 3D film I saw, and it was all downhill from there
2: [00:01:22] <spronk> also
3: [00:01:25] <spronk> the less money i give to disney
4: [00:01:26] <spronk> the better.
5: [00:01:32] <spronk> fucking cunts
6: [00:01:32] <spronk> they can suck my robot penis.
7: [00:02:07] <Sphere> There was just one moment, I thought "Ok, this wasn't necessary"
8: [00:02:07] <Sphere> when a bunch of starfighters flew into my face.
9: [00:02:07] <Sphere> The rest was very subtle, but giving more depth
10: [00:02:07] <Sphere> No, the movie is too active to be able to focus on one thing. All scenes are almost flashing by. The story is fast, capturing and well written :)
11: [00:02:09] <Colinglebells> is that your actual penis? or do you keep a pet robot penis?
12: [00:02:22] <Sphere> You're saying it wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pRnQYS0S5c
13: [00:02:48] <Sphere> I guess he has two in his pockets
14: [00:03:19] <spronk> <3 bender
15: [00:03:22] <Sphere> But, I really feel, this is the first movie where 3D was really an addition. At times, I almost felt I could hug BB-8
16: [00:03:30] <spronk> ugh
17: [00:03:31] <spronk> bb-8
18: [00:03:32] <Sphere> The next moment, BB-8 wasn't in the shot anymore
19: [00:03:39] <Sphere> BB-8 is awesome. Trust me.
20: [00:03:45] <spronk> that thing better not take the spotlight off the best droid in the world ever universe r2d2
21: [00:03:59] <Sphere> Hard to say.
22: [00:04:21] <Sphere> It _is_ the new droid for this new part of the saga
23: [00:04:31] <spronk> which is kinda dumb
24: [00:04:33] <Sphere> but don't worry, R2D2 is alive and well
25: [00:04:39] <spronk> because r2d2 and c3po are like
26: [00:04:45] <spronk> the only persistant characters in star wars
27: [00:04:49] <Sphere> It isn't. It's 30 years later. So, they have evolved.
28: [00:04:52] <spronk> r2d2 is the mastermind behind it all!
29: [00:04:55] <Colinglebells> uh... this is getting too spolierish
30: [00:05:04] <spronk> lol
31: [00:05:15] <spronk> they won't kill r2d2
32: [00:05:16] <Sphere> I'm doing my best not to spoiler anything :)
33: [00:05:19] <spronk> the fans would revolt
34: [00:05:29] <Sphere> No, they'll only kill Darth Vader or something :P
35: [00:05:30] <spronk> disney's share price would plummet
36: [00:05:42] <spronk> hey man
37: [00:05:48] <spronk> V-brah ain't dead
38: [00:05:49] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
39: [00:05:56] <Sphere> I've actually been killed by Darth Vader at the cinema....
40: [00:06:00] <Sphere> It was fun :D
41: [00:06:07] <spronk> he'll be back in episode VIII
42: [00:06:10] <Sphere> He did a death-grip (well, the actor :P )
43: [00:06:11] <spronk> played by jai courtney
44: [00:06:15] <spronk> or some stupid fucking australian
45: [00:06:18] <spronk> (sorry Colinglebells )
46: [00:06:24] <Sphere> And I played along... which caused a stir :P
47: [00:06:30] <spronk> :D
48: [00:06:37] <spronk> fuk yeh.gif
49: [00:07:18] <Sphere> I asked him if I could hug him (for jokes) and he did a death grip...
50: [00:07:32] <Sphere> so I grabbed my throath and jumped as high back as I could :D
51: [00:07:40] <spronk> heh
52: [00:07:41] <spronk> throath
53: [00:07:58] <Sphere> It's 1AM. Excuse my english ;)
54: [00:08:34] <Sphere> throat, right?
55: [00:08:55] * Sphere is now known as BB-8
56: [00:09:11] <spronk> haha
57: [00:09:13] <BB-8> Beebeeebop! Beep! Bloblableep!
58: [00:09:18] * BB-8 is now known as Sphere
59: [00:09:31] <spronk> what country you in Sphere ?
60: [00:09:38] <Sphere> Netherlands
61: [00:09:43] <Sphere> For now :P
62: [00:09:45] <spronk> makes sense :D
63: [00:09:49] * Colinglebells quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
64: [00:09:50] <spronk> are you
65: [00:09:53] <spronk> schmoking a pancake?
66: [00:09:57] <Sphere> Why does it make sense?
67: [00:10:00] <spronk> 1M
68: [00:10:01] <spronk> am
69: [00:10:13] <Sphere> Haha, just plain cigarettes. I don't smoke pancakes....
70: [00:10:14] <spronk> 'tisn't 1AM here
71: [00:10:23] <Sphere> But if you use SequelPro
72: [00:10:34] <Sphere> Try closing it, then start "Pancakes" :P
73: [00:11:05] <spronk> eh o_O
74: [00:11:15] <spronk> HA
75: [00:11:15] <Sphere> God dammit. "No, we have no further news on your application". Stupid embassy
76: [00:11:20] <spronk> that totally works
77: [00:11:21] <spronk> awesome
78: [00:11:30] <spronk> :(
79: [00:11:37] <Sphere> It's the only way I know to start the frikkin app! :D
80: [00:12:11] <Sphere> I'm more often at the office asking "What do you call those flat things again?" than "What's the name of the SQL program?"
81: [00:12:26] <spronk> ha!
82: [00:12:39] * Pyromanik has joined #silverstripe
83: [00:13:03] <Sphere> spronk: told ya!
84: [00:13:13] <spronk> PAHRAORHH!
85: [00:13:18] <Pyromanik> boom.
86: [00:13:27] <Sphere> You should not let cats walk on your keyboard.
87: [00:13:37] <Sphere> I even put that in all my Readme's.
88: [00:13:39] * Pyromanik can't understand if that's supposed to be my name, or Paeroa. Either way, it's close.
89: [00:13:45] <Sphere> Having cats on your keyboard is bad.
90: [00:13:52] <spronk> its kinda both
91: [00:13:53] <spronk> :D
92: [00:14:04] <Sphere> We were talking about Pancakes (the OSX app)
93: [00:14:10] <Pyromanik> see the neat pun I just made?
94: [00:14:11] <Sphere> which is actually SequelPro
95: [00:14:14] <Pyromanik> double entendre
96: [00:14:17] <Pyromanik> or whatever
97: [00:14:20] <Sphere> No, I'm too tired to see puns
98: [00:14:32] <Pyromanik> did you make it here yet?
99: [00:15:28] <Sphere> Still waiting on my visa :(
100: [00:15:28] <Pyromanik> Concatulations on the Dodge too.
101: [00:15:37] <Sphere> It's frustrating and all :|
102: [00:15:39] <Pyromanik> wow, really?
103: [00:15:52] <Pyromanik> :< that seems to be taking an inordinate amount of time :<
104: [00:15:54] <Sphere> Yeah. My cat got her visa before me :X
105: [00:15:58] <Pyromanik> :o
106: [00:16:20] <Sphere> Problem is, I have to take anti-depressant daily. Therefor, not all ticks on my medical are green.
107: [00:16:27] <irogue> Pyromanik: you back in nz now?
108: [00:16:36] <Sphere> Thus I'm put on the big pile of "having to check" :X
109: [00:16:44] <Sphere> takes up to 8 weeks :X
110: [00:16:44] <Pyromanik> Sphere, ah, bummer :(
111: [00:17:02] <Sphere> And with christmas and all.... I'm expecting a useful answer end january :(
112: [00:17:18] <Pyromanik> yeh. stupid christmas.
113: [00:17:28] <Sphere> But don't worry, I'll make it!
114: [00:17:33] <Sphere> Eventually...
115: [00:17:35] <Sphere> I guess..
116: [00:17:45] <Pyromanik> get stuffed full of unnecessary food, consume all the sugar, & waste all your money on trinkets the people you gift them too don't need.
117: [00:17:58] <Pyromanik> Welcome to the modern age :/
118: [00:18:10] <Sphere> I don't do christmas
119: [00:18:17] <Pyromanik> I wish I didn't either.
120: [00:18:23] <Pyromanik> When I'm alone, I don't.
121: [00:18:26] <Sphere> I seriously don't even know where my parents live
122: [00:18:28] <Pyromanik> We don't*
123: [00:18:35] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
124: [00:18:42] <Pyromanik> but since I'm at home (read: mum's house)...
125: [00:18:52] <Pyromanik> I feel obliged to get her at least something small.
126: [00:18:59] <irogue> my whanau also don't do xmas
127: [00:19:05] <Sphere> A hug is small and means a lot
128: [00:19:08] <Sphere> and it's cheap!
129: [00:19:10] <Pyromanik> trouble is, I had my eye on something, then she went and brought something similar yesterday making the idea fuck'n useless.
130: [00:19:21] <Pyromanik> irogue, lucky! :D
131: [00:19:29] <Sphere> Well, unless you're me, if you're me, it would be a punch in the face.
132: [00:19:41] <Pyromanik> I told my mum not to get me anything, she replied with "too late"
133: [00:19:47] <Pyromanik> and I was all FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
134: [00:19:56] <Sphere> u
135: [00:20:41] <Pyromanik> So it'll probably end up being another rather insincere looking box of chocolates again...
136: [00:21:00] <Pyromanik> Although a gift voucher might be better.
137: [00:21:41] <Pyromanik> in short irogue, yes.
138: [00:21:58] <Sphere> I detest chocolate
139: [00:22:02] <Pyromanik> been back for a month today.
140: [00:22:33] <Pyromanik> Sphere, I test chocolate.
141: [00:22:36] <Sphere> It's not really easy to say "thank you" when I get another box of chocolates :|
142: [00:22:57] <Pyromanik> flowers then? :P
143: [00:22:59] <Sphere> Well, you can have all the chocolate I get :P
144: [00:23:13] <irogue> I *love* chocolate
145: [00:23:19] <Sphere> I'm not exactly the girly type :P
146: [00:23:20] <irogue> high quality chocolate causes things to happen in my pants
147: [00:23:45] <Sphere> I'm not really interested in your pants
148: [00:23:53] <Sphere> Nor am I interested in what happens in your pants
149: [00:24:11] <Sphere> but yay you, I guess?
150: [00:24:21] <Sphere> And don't eat too much chocolate?
151: [00:24:50] <Pyromanik> yeah, I prefer to eat the chocolate. From my hand to my mouth. Not from the inside of someone else's pants.
152: [00:25:02] <Pyromanik> seems like an aweful waste to smear it around the pants.
153: [00:25:03] <Sphere> :D
154: [00:25:14] <Pyromanik> also messy.
155: [00:25:19] <Sphere> Stop, just stop. Please
156: [00:25:25] <Sphere> I'm imagining this.
157: [00:25:29] <Pyromanik> haha
158: [00:25:32] <spronk> :|
159: [00:25:40] <Pyromanik> I learnt to turn that switch off at a young age :P
160: [00:25:56] <Pyromanik> everyone's going "eww mental image" and I'm going "hahahahahah"
161: [00:26:11] <Pyromanik> Oh high school. Fun times.
162: [00:26:16] <Sphere> I didn't, and now I have brown pants pictured, with irogue smearing chocolate all over the pants :X
163: [00:26:21] <Pyromanik> Once all the arseholes left.
164: [00:26:27] <irogue> i'm always the person causing the mental images :D
165: [00:26:33] <zippy> Pyromanik: you back in nz now?
166: [00:26:47] <Sphere> irogue: yes. yes you are. :|
167: [00:27:00] <Pyromanik> irogue, it's one thing to call it a mental image. But you're supposed to do it with the power of suggestion, not by running through the office starkers.
168: [00:27:06] <irogue> at friday drinks a couple weeks ago we were discussing "helicoptering"
169: [00:27:14] <Pyromanik> hahahahaahahahahahaha
170: [00:27:18] <Sphere> I'm not entirely sure if I will kill you when I meet you, or let you live another day.
171: [00:27:22] <Pyromanik> fuck helicoptering makes me lol
172: [00:27:22] <Sphere> Ow god....
173: [00:27:27] <irogue> one of the PMs didn't know what it was, so one of the SAs explained it in detail
174: [00:27:36] <Pyromanik> in detail you say?
175: [00:27:38] <spronk> o_O
176: [00:27:39] <Pyromanik> SA?
177: [00:27:44] <Pyromanik> Secret Accountant
178: [00:27:45] <irogue> solution architect
179: [00:27:46] <Sphere> There's not much detail to helicoptering
180: [00:27:50] <zippy> sales assistant
181: [00:27:58] <Pyromanik> they're in the closet about number facts.
182: [00:28:10] <Sphere> I mean.... it's just a broken dick drawing circles
183: [00:28:13] <Pyromanik> sneaking out late at night to add things up in the carpark
184: [00:28:26] <Pyromanik> zippy, yes.
185: [00:28:31] <Pyromanik> 1 month today.
186: [00:28:41] <Pyromanik> I feel like I should get some kind of AA chip or something.
187: [00:28:43] <Sphere> Ok, for my own health and safety.... I'm off to bed now.
188: [00:28:49] <Sphere> And the health part is all on you!
189: [00:28:53] <Pyromanik> 30 days clean.
190: [00:29:07] <Pyromanik> Sphere, sweet dreams!
191: [00:29:12] <Pyromanik> ps, you already met me.
192: [00:29:16] <Pyromanik> Twice.
193: [00:29:28] <irogue> last week's friday drinks involved in-depth discussions about our sex lives
194: [00:29:34] <irogue> silverstripe!!
195: [00:29:40] <Pyromanik> heheh, typical kiwi.
196: [00:29:52] <Pyromanik> office shens
197: [00:30:06] <Pyromanik> irogue, find me a house.
198: [00:30:21] <irogue> Pyromanik: ??
199: [00:30:28] <Pyromanik> I've got $25.03.
200: [00:30:34] <Pyromanik> should be enough right?
201: [00:30:53] <irogue> Pyromanik: probs enough for one in Gore
202: [00:31:04] <Pyromanik> I quite like having ten toes.
203: [00:31:12] <Pyromanik> I wish for my children to have the same.
204: [00:32:00] <Pyromanik> zippy, y 4 u ask?
205: [00:32:41] <irogue> Pyromanik: you just need to find 25 more $25s and you'd be able to pay the weekly rent for my house
206: [00:33:01] <Pyromanik> :O I get to keep all the 0.3's! :D
207: [00:33:03] <micmania1> Pyromanik: when you coming to Wellington?
208: [00:33:07] <Pyromanik> micmania1, new year.
209: [00:33:19] <micmania1> Where are you now?
210: [00:33:20] <Pyromanik> Party hard in party town first.
211: [00:33:28] <Pyromanik> North Island.
212: [00:33:41] <micmania1> That’s not exactly narrowed the scope for me.
213: [00:33:45] <irogue> haha
214: [00:33:54] <irogue> "party town"
215: [00:33:57] <irogue> hmmm
216: [00:33:57] <Pyromanik> wait, I answered that like I'm still in the UK... or CHC.
217: [00:33:59] <irogue> Huntly?
218: [00:34:09] <Pyromanik> Whanga
219: [00:34:14] <irogue> lol
220: [00:34:19] <Pyromanik> yeah, that narrowed the scope too.
221: [00:34:22] <Pyromanik> boom, eat that.
222: [00:34:27] <irogue> Whanganui or Whangarei? :P
223: [00:34:47] <Pyromanik> well, only one of those is a city... so...
224: [00:35:08] <Pyromanik> I don't live in a kayak, if that's what you're asking :P
225: [00:35:41] <irogue> rofl
226: [00:36:15] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] PHP7 Compatability - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/FI1dZ3G_8tY/IRap0KK8AwAJ
227: [00:36:27] <Pyromanik> oh is that still an issue?
228: [00:36:38] <Pyromanik> and no irogue, think more boyracer.
229: [00:36:45] <Pyromanik> but less Mount.
230: [00:37:11] * santmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
231: [00:37:35] <irogue> I know what it is, "party town" combined with "Whanga" more than gave it away :P
232: [00:37:54] <irogue> but its more fun to think you're partying in Whanganui
233: [00:38:06] <Pyromanik> I don't breathe underwater.
234: [00:38:25] * DanaeNZ quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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236: [00:38:44] <Pyromanik> I already told micmania1 a while back.
237: [00:38:47] <Pyromanik> on the twitards.
238: [00:38:57] * DanaeNZ has joined #silverstripe
239: [00:39:11] <Pyromanik> Might gaan see star wars tonight if I can get in. then I could start using that again.
240: [00:39:15] <Pyromanik> maybe
241: [00:39:27] <irogue> i've only ever been to whanga once, for beach hop
242: [00:39:34] <irogue> just for the day
243: [00:39:39] <Pyromanik> Yeh, beach hop seems pretty mint.
244: [00:40:15] <Pyromanik> Better than the last new years I spent here, where it was just wanker after wanker in a constant stream circling the only 2 roundabouts in town.
245: [00:40:34] <Pyromanik> One of which has a petrol station just off it, which was convenient for them.
246: [00:40:39] <Pyromanik> Oh, wanker, I meant wankel.
247: [00:40:45] <Pyromanik> My bad.
248: [00:41:36] <Pyromanik> Still, it was a good time. 10 years later I'm about to repeat :P
249: [00:41:53] <micmania1> Pyromanik: what are you doing for new year? I have no plans but fancy getting out of Wellington? Beers?
250: [00:41:58] <Pyromanik> apparently it's mellowed heaps though. But then I also got older. So should be interesting.
251: [00:42:21] <Pyromanik> micmania1, well, you could come stay here I guess. But you'd probably find it hard to get accomodation.
252: [00:42:58] <micmania1> I’ll look into it first
253: [00:42:59] <Pyromanik> Plus I got the missus. Third wheel ain't all that fun, I wouldn't wanna subject you to that :P
254: [00:43:20] <micmania1> yeah, I think a mate would come up :p
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256: [00:43:26] <Pyromanik> so advice would be to bring some(at least)one with you.
257: [00:43:50] <Pyromanik> Another suggestion would be The Mount.
258: [00:44:02] <Pyromanik> There are many mountains in NZ, but there is only one THE Mount.
259: [00:44:21] * DanaeNZ has joined #silverstripe
260: [00:44:22] <micmania1> You up near Tauranga?
261: [00:44:26] <Pyromanik> yup
262: [00:44:32] <Pyromanik> Coromandel.
263: [00:44:45] <spronk> coro st bah
264: [00:44:53] <Pyromanik> Neg.
265: [00:44:57] <Pyromanik> Port Road though.
266: [00:44:58] <spronk> :<
267: [00:45:45] <Pyromanik> Although there is a South Londoner living at the end of the street.
268: [00:45:54] <Pyromanik> iirc.
269: [00:46:10] <spronk> innit!
270: [00:46:25] <Pyromanik> oh, and a Glaswegian next door.
271: [00:46:31] <spronk> Aye
272: [00:46:36] <spronk> fuck i'm racist
273: [00:46:38] <DanaeNZ> wat
274: [00:46:41] <Pyromanik> lolwut
275: [00:46:52] <spronk> ikr.
276: [00:47:02] <Pyromanik> when did you turn Australian spronk ?
277: [00:47:08] <spronk> lol
278: [00:47:12] <spronk> as if i'm australian
279: [00:47:48] <spronk> so when is ss going to be rewritten on laravel?
280: [00:47:58] <Pyromanik> Next year I heard.
281: [00:48:02] <spronk> aweesome
282: [00:48:17] <Pyromanik> although rumours heard it would be laranode.
283: [00:48:23] <spronk> FUUUCK
284: [00:48:50] <Pyromanik> To operate better with react
285: [00:49:42] <Pyromanik> just like werdprass
286: [00:51:14] <spronk> hahah
287: [00:51:14] <spronk> yeah
288: [00:52:14] <zippy> spronk: https://github.com/TheMonkeys/laravel-silverstripe - looks abandoned
289: [00:52:35] <Pyromanik> HEY HEY WE'RE THE
290: [00:52:38] <Pyromanik> ...
291: [00:52:47] <zippy> I think Pyromanik was following that project...
292: [00:53:05] <Pyromanik> Don't be silly. Obviously I wrote it.
293: [00:53:12] <Pyromanik> everyone knows I love the laraveil
294: [00:53:16] <spronk> lulz
295: [00:53:33] <Pyromanik> Because it's so intuitive and lean.
296: [00:53:57] <Pyromanik> To be fair I did look into that lumin though.
297: [00:54:01] <Pyromanik> lumen
298: [00:54:05] <Pyromanik> lomen
299: [00:54:08] <Pyromanik> whatever
300: [00:55:01] <spronk> srs brah
301: [00:55:03] <spronk> laravel is the business
302: [00:55:06] <spronk> lumen is nice too
303: [00:55:09] <spronk> though
304: [00:55:13] * Audlex quit ()
305: [00:55:17] <spronk> taylor really needs to stop fucking with it
306: [00:56:41] <Pyromanik> Swift?
307: [00:56:59] <spronk> otwell
308: [00:57:05] <spronk> laravel's.. not so benevolent dictator
309: [00:57:18] <spronk> 5.0: introduce Command bus with Command objects + Handler objects
310: [00:57:21] <spronk> 5.1: deprecate.
311: [00:57:30] <spronk> WUT FUCK?
312: [00:57:31] <zippy> spronk: chris I saw 5.2 is coming out a in a few weeks
313: [00:57:34] <spronk> "because they are the same as queued jobs"
314: [00:57:39] <spronk> no they are fucking not
315: [00:57:49] <zippy> it's like... SS is snails pace. Laravel is like full speed omg wtf.
316: [00:57:51] <spronk> mm
317: [00:57:56] <zippy> (in terms of shit changing)
318: [00:58:13] <spronk> laravel has basically fully rewritten itself in the time ss has gone from 3.0 to whatever we're at now
319: [00:58:17] <spronk> twice*
320: [00:58:20] <zippy> mm
321: [00:58:44] <Pyromanik> zippy, so like... Debian vs... something shit.
322: [00:58:57] <zippy> more like RHEL vs Ubuntu
323: [00:59:20] <zippy> ubuntu going to have that new package, RHEL is still using something from 4 years ago
324: [01:00:04] <Pyromanik> thunderstruck, shellshocked, bascially synonynms for the same song right?
325: [01:02:02] <Pyromanik> oooh, fuck, thanks for reminding me guys.
326: [01:02:10] <Pyromanik> I got an email the other day, my first pull request!
327: [01:02:11] <Pyromanik> :D
328: [01:02:25] <Pyromanik> NOW I GET THE SATISFACTION OF FLAT OUT DENYING IT WITH NO EXPLAINATION
329: [01:02:29] <Pyromanik> :D
330: [01:04:22] * Pyromanik overlords like a boss
331: [01:05:32] <spronk> BOOM
332: [01:06:02] <spronk> ubuntu is quite nice
333: [01:06:08] * spronk has moved most of his stuff from debian to ubuntu
334: [01:08:10] <Pyromanik> I did that for a single reason only, and that was because Debian is slow as fuck.
335: [01:08:27] <Pyromanik> not a fan. but reluctantly use it.
336: [01:08:45] * Pyromanik feels like he should learn more BSD
337: [01:10:33] <spronk> hmm
338: [01:10:34] <spronk> yeah
339: [01:13:52] * BrewNaked quit (Remote host closed the connection)
340: [01:19:31] <Pyromanik> fffffffffffffffffff fuck vodafone nz
341: [01:19:42] <zippy> Pyromanik: you back in nz?
342: [01:19:58] <Pyromanik> yes
343: [01:20:04] <Pyromanik> gawd
344: [01:20:07] <Pyromanik> fuck vodafone
345: [01:20:21] <Pyromanik> cunts
346: [01:21:03] <Pyromanik> omg, login page times out
347: [01:21:07] <Pyromanik> login page is NOT secure
348: [01:21:15] <Pyromanik> log in, THREE POPUPS DEEP
349: [01:22:20] <Pyromanik> STORES YOUR FUCKING CARD DETAILS
350: [01:22:37] <Pyromanik> How mad? FULL MAD
351: [01:22:45] <zippy> might be time for some starcraft I think
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353: [01:36:36] <irogue> [13:58:13] <spronk> laravel has basically fully rewritten itself in the time ss has gone from 3.0 to whatever we're at now
354: [01:36:46] <irogue> is why I don't think you get that much "srs biz" stuff using laravel
355: [01:36:51] <spronk> lulz
356: [01:36:58] <spronk> laravel is pretty good
357: [01:37:00] <Pyromanik> hahaha, omg so grinch.
358: [01:37:10] <irogue> good, yes, but not 'stable' enough in architecture
359: [01:37:16] <Pyromanik> https://github.com/NightJar/ssrigging-slug/pull/2
360: [01:37:16] <spronk> haha
361: [01:37:18] <spronk> it totally is
362: [01:37:45] <irogue> [13:57:18] <spronk> 5.0: introduce Command bus with Command objects + Handler objects
363: [01:37:45] <irogue> [13:57:21] <spronk> 5.1: deprecate.
364: [01:37:47] <irogue> doesn't sound stable :P
365: [01:37:52] <spronk> it was a fringe feature though
366: [01:37:57] <spronk> the main arch hardly changed
367: [01:38:08] <irogue> doesn't matter - if anyone used that feature they're fucked
368: [01:38:15] <irogue> can't keep using 5.0 cos potential security issues, can't upgrade
369: [01:38:29] <zippy> just like people that want to use PHP 7 with SS... they're fucked for another 10 months
370: [01:38:30] <spronk> well there was a clear migration path, so..
371: [01:38:38] <spronk> itw asn't actually that bad
372: [01:39:45] <irogue> I think you underestimate how much "srs biz" hates change
373: [01:40:21] <irogue> we lost a few customers in fits of anger when we announced a little while ago we weren't going to support or host any 2.4 sites any longer
374: [01:41:19] <spronk> well
375: [01:41:22] <spronk> "srs biz"
376: [01:41:30] <spronk> vs
377: [01:41:30] <spronk> software companies
378: [01:41:59] <irogue> ya
379: [01:42:04] <DanaeNZ> CAN WE TALK ABOUT KPOP
380: [01:42:07] <DanaeNZ> WHO LOVES KPOP
381: [01:42:09] <DanaeNZ> JUST ME
382: [01:42:10] <DanaeNZ> OK
383: [01:42:15] <irogue> i mean you won't see the likes of westpac using laravel :P
384: [01:42:42] <spronk> that's because westpac aren't a software company
385: [01:43:04] <irogue> correct - i wasn't making the point about software companies tho
386: [01:43:29] <irogue> but they also wouldn't use a software company that uses laravel
387: [01:43:42] <irogue> DanaeNZ: i don't like k-pop music but it has a lot of cute guys ^_^
388: [01:43:52] <DanaeNZ> YES irogue YES
389: [01:44:00] <irogue> spronk: equally we can't use React or Vue.js
390: [01:44:15] <spronk> such ridiculous policy though
391: [01:44:31] <irogue> I understand tho - they don't want to get fucked over by sudden change
392: [01:45:06] <irogue> if Taylor decides to deprecate some major feature in a point release and stop doing security releases to any previous versions, suddenly they'd have to fork out $$$ to rewrite stuff
393: [01:45:16] <spronk> yeah
394: [01:45:19] <spronk> but that has to happen anyway, right?
395: [01:45:51] <irogue> if BC doesn't break, then no
396: [01:45:56] <spronk> lols
397: [01:45:59] <spronk> typical enterprise thinking though right
398: [01:46:01] <spronk> software is a box
399: [01:46:04] <spronk> suppoorted for ever
400: [01:46:16] <spronk> RED HAT 6 FOR LYF
401: [01:47:16] <spronk> at some point, shit has to be updated
402: [01:47:20] <irogue> yeah, and its shit, but from an enterprise's perspective if you pay a few mill for someone to write some software for you and then they come to you every few months and say "gotta rewrite now, another half a mill plz"
403: [01:47:25] <irogue> you'd be pretty pissed :P
404: [01:47:29] <Pyromanik> <zippy> just like people that want to use PHP 7 with SS... they're fucked for another 10 months
405: [01:47:32] <Pyromanik> boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmm
406: [01:48:10] <spronk> yeah, but laravel has been stable enough that major rewrites wouldn't be required
407: [01:48:13] <irogue> the SS php7 thing kinda unavoidable - fixing it would be completely bc-breaking
408: [01:48:36] <irogue> cos of some *dumbass* decisions in SS2
409: [01:49:08] <Pyromanik> <irogue> spronk: equally we can't use React or Vue.js
410: [01:49:14] <Pyromanik> wait, hang on... what?
411: [01:49:24] <spronk> if big enterprise can use angular
412: [01:49:30] <spronk> they can use react/vue
413: [01:49:43] <irogue> React is still changing too often in non-BC ways, and Vue.js is maintained by one dude
414: [01:49:45] <irogue> both no-nos
415: [01:50:22] <irogue> Angular was a difficult sell but got there :P
416: [01:50:28] <irogue> enterprise <3 backbone
417: [01:50:31] <Pyromanik> but... wasn't the decision already made to use react.js?
418: [01:50:34] <spronk> lol
419: [01:50:39] <spronk> and then
420: [01:50:40] <spronk> angular 2!
421: [01:50:43] <spronk> so way more fucked than react
422: [01:50:44] <Pyromanik> boom
423: [01:50:48] <irogue> fuck angular2
424: [01:50:49] <irogue> so stupid
425: [01:50:56] <Pyromanik> fuck JS, so stupid.
426: [01:50:58] <irogue> Pyromanik: not talking about core atm, just custom code
427: [01:51:04] <spronk> the enterprise stability argument never really holds uop
428: [01:51:09] <Pyromanik> irogue, idgi.
429: [01:51:13] <irogue> e.g. westpac internet banking is in backbone
430: [01:51:22] <spronk> sure, factor in stuff like number of maintainers etc
431: [01:51:26] <Pyromanik> oh yeah, I was trying to sign into that, thanks irogue
432: [01:51:31] <spronk> and basic stability etc
433: [01:51:42] <spronk> but if you're building a web app, you can't just built it and leave it
434: [01:52:06] <irogue> you'd be surprised :P
435: [01:52:16] <spronk> i wouldn't
436: [01:52:21] <spronk> enterprises that do it should be shot
437: [01:52:34] <Pyromanik> WAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHOLY fuck everythying's changed and different and wtf balls
438: [01:54:26] <irogue> the people who complain about dropping php5.4 support in SS are, imo, worse. cos none of them have the excuse of being big enterprise :P
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440: [01:58:37] <Pyromanik> wait, 5.4! :O OMG NOOOOOO ALL MY SITES
441: [01:58:52] <irogue> lol
442: [01:58:56] <spronk> 5.4 should be dropped
443: [01:58:58] <spronk> it's obsolete
444: [01:58:59] <spronk> and dangerous
445: [01:59:12] <Pyromanik> just a little bit DANGERous
446: [01:59:30] <irogue> spronk: it is
447: [01:59:42] <irogue> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/master/composer.json#L19
448: [01:59:57] <spronk> good
449: [02:00:39] <spronk> there's a good argument for dropping 5.5 soon too :P
450: [02:01:23] <irogue> I think the main reason its >= 5.5 is cos there hasn't been any 5.6-only features/libraries the opensource folk have wanted to use yet
451: [02:02:22] <micmania1> Its because 5.4 won’t be supported by time 4.0 is out
452: [02:02:35] <micmania1> or will have a very short time left anyway
453: [02:02:58] <irogue> yeah, but I mean 5.5+ is good enough for everything we want to do
454: [02:03:16] <Pyromanik> Extrem elly danger us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozRu7HpgEF4
455: [02:03:28] <irogue> if there was something major (e.g. flysystem) that only supported 5.6+ the question *might* have been raised about dropping 5.5 support too
456: [02:06:40] * irogue yawns
457: [02:06:44] <irogue> why isn't the day over yet
458: [02:06:45] <irogue> plz
459: [02:06:59] <micmania1> beer beer beer
460: [02:07:16] <irogue> micmania1: looking forward to a cold cider so much
461: [02:07:21] <irogue> there better fucking be some
462: [02:07:30] <irogue> or i will start stabbing people
463: [02:07:39] * micmania1 hides the cider
464: [02:08:27] * irogue hides the beer
465: [02:09:10] * micmania1 stabs people
466: [02:09:27] <micmania1> I already had two glasses of wine at lunch :D
467: [02:09:40] <irogue> micmania1: hows downstairs today? its super dead up here, even more so than usual
468: [02:09:40] <micmania1> Everyone was out for their xmas lunch so it took AAAAGGGGGEEESSS
469: [02:09:50] <micmania1> don’t know. I’ve got my headphones on
470: [02:09:57] <irogue> haha
471: [02:10:05] <micmania1> Looks quiet.
472: [02:11:01] <irogue> to be fair its been pretty quiet down there ever since R2D23 has been away :P
473: [02:11:33] <micmania1> Yep. Noisy bastard.
474: [02:12:34] <DanaeNZ> everyone wants things finished on friday wooo
475: [02:12:51] <DanaeNZ> quiet offices freak me out
476: [02:13:08] * saysora quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
477: [02:13:28] <micmania1> I’m disappointed that cheddam hasn’t used his nerf gun yet
478: [02:14:02] * irogue_ has joined #silverstripe
479: [02:14:31] <zippy> Stomach: given the green top the score isn't bad for SL.
480: [02:15:06] * irogue quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
481: [02:16:22] <Stomach> zippy - yeah but its only going to get better as the match goes on
482: [02:16:28] <Stomach> so we should smash them first innings
483: [02:16:58] <irogue_> http://iforce.co.nz/i/hbrav3lw.ynm.jpg
484: [02:17:19] <zippy> sublime...
485: [02:17:34] <zippy> I thought it wouldn't be enterprisey enough..
486: [02:17:41] <irogue_> nah, Atom
487: [02:17:54] <irogue_> don't worry I usually use IntelliJ IDEA :P
488: [02:20:10] <irogue_> also I'm not on Westpac anymore, I'm on government work, so even more derpy but in different ways ;)
489: [02:22:21] <zippy> govt work has sooooooo much wastage it's amazeballs
490: [02:22:48] <zippy> and they just don't seem to care
491: [02:23:38] <irogue_> yeah
492: [02:28:39] <irogue_> they also really hate change :P
493: [02:29:57] <irogue_> https://twitter.com/sminnee/status/674871842700582912
494: [02:30:00] <irogue_> this has upset many
495: [02:30:40] <irogue_> OMG UPGRADE NOOOOOO
496: [02:34:53] * muskie9 quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
497: [02:35:11] <zippy> lol yet they piss away money on buildings and shit
498: [02:36:59] <DanaeNZ> cider makes me a happy developer
499: [02:37:05] <Pyromanik> I wanted to like atom, but it was built with coffeescript.
500: [02:37:20] <spronk> uUUGHUGH
501: [02:37:21] <spronk> 2d
502: [02:37:22] <spronk> fucking ruined snap
503: [02:37:29] <zippy> mmm
504: [02:37:38] <zippy> no real issues for me yet... but waiting on it
505: [02:37:38] <DanaeNZ> cries cos I have 2d broadband 12 month contract
506: [02:37:47] <spronk> how the fuck do you reconfigure a fritz box to work with 2d UFB
507: [02:37:47] <DanaeNZ> i signed up when it was snap
508: [02:37:50] <spronk> when it was previously on 2d fibre
509: [02:37:55] <spronk> once upon a time, the snap website would have told you how
510: [02:37:55] <Pyromanik> spronk, trues? GUTTED
511: [02:37:57] <spronk> but 2d? LULZ
512: [02:38:08] <Pyromanik> was looking forward to more snap excellence when getting a place
513: [02:38:12] <DanaeNZ> they have the worst invoicing system
514: [02:38:16] <DanaeNZ> ie; nothing
515: [02:38:23] <spronk> i moved to snap at start of the year
516: [02:38:28] <DanaeNZ> i got an email saying my account was overdue and I'm like, what
517: [02:38:35] <spronk> 2d bought them and then proceeded to turn them into the simplest fucking options ever
518: [02:38:45] <irogue_> yeah, I was world's biggest Snap fanboi, but have completely ditched 2d now
519: [02:38:57] <irogue_> even ditched them for mobile cos I was so pissed at how much they fucked Snap
520: [02:39:00] <spronk> snap: choose connection type, choose speed, choose data cap, choose which modem you want, choose which contract term you want vis a vis modem discount
521: [02:39:00] <DanaeNZ> unlimited is $10 more expensive than 80GB snap tho so there's that
522: [02:39:18] <Pyromanik> dark irogue_ - I was actually entertaining the idea of porting number to 2deg
523: [02:39:24] <spronk> 2d: 50g or unlimited. Connection type is whatever they give you. Modem is shitty one for dsl, good one for vsl/fibre, no choice.
524: [02:39:25] <Pyromanik> but... if they're that shit...
525: [02:39:32] <DanaeNZ> I even just got my friend's old fritzbox and that was fine
526: [02:39:32] <irogue_> am on skinny + bigpipe now
527: [02:39:34] <irogue_> quite happy
528: [02:39:40] <DanaeNZ> isn't bigpipe just telecom
529: [02:39:42] <DanaeNZ> spark
530: [02:39:43] <spronk> snap's phone options: $5 voip, $5 copper, $15 voip with nz/aus calling
531: [02:39:43] <Pyromanik> yup
532: [02:39:49] <spronk> 2d: $15 voip with nz/aus calling only.
533: [02:39:49] <irogue_> owned by spark, run independently
534: [02:39:59] <irogue_> all different staff and infrastructure :)
535: [02:40:00] <DanaeNZ> oh yeah and they charged me $10 for a phone line I don't even have
536: [02:40:01] <spronk> irogue_ is bigpipe carrier grade NAT'd?
537: [02:40:09] <irogue_> spronk: yes unless you get static IP
538: [02:40:09] <DanaeNZ> I don't have a fucking phone
539: [02:40:13] <spronk> oo
540: [02:40:14] <spronk> you can get static?
541: [02:40:17] <Pyromanik> fuck telephones
542: [02:40:29] <DanaeNZ> yes
543: [02:40:32] <DanaeNZ> but not literally
544: [02:40:35] <irogue_> spronk: yes, one-off $45 fee (which is a big high, but one-off rather than monthly which is nice)
545: [02:40:39] <spronk> oo
546: [02:40:50] <DanaeNZ> i would just go something like dyndns
547: [02:40:53] <Pyromanik> line into hosted VOIP, then consumer has ability to fuck it all up from that point on should be a thing.
548: [02:40:54] * spronk would need to figure out a solution for landline..
549: [02:40:55] <DanaeNZ> or that other free one
550: [02:41:06] <Pyromanik> hosted voip spronk
551: [02:41:11] <spronk> DanaeNZ i don't want carrier grade NAT
552: [02:41:12] <DanaeNZ> voip voip voip
553: [02:41:20] <DanaeNZ> triooo
554: [02:41:23] <DanaeNZ> ugh typing
555: [02:41:24] <spronk> otherwise i would just use dyn with dynamic ip
556: [02:41:27] <irogue_> fun fact about bigpipe: they literally don't have the ability to count your usage
557: [02:41:31] <DanaeNZ> fuck this back to coding later yalsss
558: [02:41:40] <Pyromanik> also, I have 3 internet charges on my card I can't account for. Not Steam. Not GoG. What the fuck did I buy?
559: [02:41:42] <irogue_> they only have unlimited plans so didn't include any data accounting gear in their build
560: [02:41:49] <Pyromanik> 3 charges on same day.
561: [02:41:49] <spronk> awesome
562: [02:41:56] <spronk> ^^
563: [02:41:58] <Pyromanik> one of them the same twice.
564: [02:42:03] <spronk> was trying to walk my dad through reconfiguring fritz box
565: [02:42:14] <Pyromanik> about $65 in total
566: [02:42:16] <spronk> apparently the woman on 2d helpdesk told him, in this order:
567: [02:42:18] <Pyromanik> rage.
568: [02:42:24] <spronk> 1. plug the fritz box into the huawei ONT, and the computer
569: [02:42:44] <irogue_> Pyromanik: porn?
570: [02:42:45] <spronk> when he told them that wasn't gonna happen, but that he had an ipad
571: [02:42:46] <spronk> 2.
572: [02:42:49] <spronk> plug the fritz box into the ipad
573: [02:42:51] <Pyromanik> irogue_, nah, don't have.
574: [02:42:53] <spronk> ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME 2D
575: [02:42:59] <irogue_> hahahaha
576: [02:43:08] <Pyromanik> irogue_, thought did come to mind though, since they show as "Internet Services 02"
577: [02:43:20] <spronk> i guess you could DUCT TAPE THE NETWORK CABLE TO THE BACK!?
578: [02:43:24] <irogue_> that is the kind of generic name porn sites use
579: [02:43:26] <irogue_> "CC BILL"
580: [02:43:50] <Pyromanik> spronk, but... when 2d took over, they kept all snap staff I thought
581: [02:43:55] <spronk> just as long as it isn't Arse Ticklers Faggodt Fan Club, you're all good
582: [02:43:57] <Pyromanik> although I guess they've probably upsized since then.
583: [02:44:06] <spronk> Pyromanik apparently they did, but then they added more departments or something
584: [02:44:13] <irogue_> Pyromanik: they kept snap helpdesk as level 2, have 2d minions answering in the first instance
585: [02:44:19] <spronk> mm
586: [02:44:25] <Pyromanik> I have a mate that worked (I guess still works) at snap.
587: [02:44:28] <Pyromanik> I should ask him.
588: [02:44:30] <Pyromanik> but he's in CHC
589: [02:44:31] <spronk> i really don't get why the fuck they bought snap
590: [02:44:38] <spronk> and not... i dno, some other smaller ISP
591: [02:44:47] <irogue_> there aren't many small ISPs left
592: [02:44:52] <spronk> also
593: [02:44:56] <spronk> they haven't even got business sorted yet
594: [02:44:59] <irogue_> and they want all the UFB contracts in place cos those are a pain in the ass
595: [02:45:23] <spronk> 2d logic: let's buy the ISP with the best range of plans and options
596: [02:45:27] <irogue_> Snap was probably the only ISP with nationwide UFB contracts that'd be available for sale
597: [02:45:30] <spronk> and turn them into the isp with the worst range!
598: [02:45:35] <spronk> i guess
599: [02:45:53] * irogue_ happy with unlimited 200/200 for $129/mo
600: [02:45:58] <spronk> had worldnet and wxc been bought by then?
601: [02:46:00] <irogue_> yet to see it drop below line speed too, even at 7pm
602: [02:46:15] <Pyromanik> fuck that's quite spenny
603: [02:46:30] <spronk> vodafone bought WXC in june...
604: [02:46:39] <zippy> irogue_: CCBIll rings back memories
605: [02:46:41] <spronk> 2d bought snap in march
606: [02:46:42] <spronk> sigh
607: [02:47:06] <Pyromanik> I paid 20 quid in the UK for all the unlimited all the things except the (piracy) things you want because they're blocked by government decree.
608: [02:47:09] <irogue_> spronk: wxc deal might have already been underway tho, I'd imagine VF would take a very very long time to close a deal
609: [02:47:14] <spronk> yeah true
610: [02:47:35] <irogue_> and I think wxc were in bad financial situation so that would have complicated things too
611: [02:47:45] <spronk> mm
612: [02:47:49] <spronk> wxc used to be the awesome isp
613: [02:47:52] <spronk> xnet ftw bakc in 2005
614: [02:47:55] <irogue_> once upon a time
615: [02:48:19] <Pyromanik> dun even fuck'n nah where I was in march.
616: [02:48:30] * spronk was such an isp hipster
617: [02:48:39] <irogue_> yeah
618: [02:49:01] <spronk> xtra -> cave rock -> paradise -> inspire -> paradise -> acquired by vodafone -> snap
619: [02:49:07] <spronk> i guess i have to switch to like
620: [02:49:11] <Pyromanik> paradise! :D
621: [02:49:11] <spronk> flip, or myrepublic
622: [02:49:11] <spronk> :P
623: [02:49:49] <spronk> fuck yeah
624: [02:49:52] <spronk> with my swannsmart II modem
625: [02:50:04] <spronk> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/qmUAAOSwFnFV9Nv6/$_75.JPG
626: [02:50:14] <zippy> hyper net
627: [02:50:22] <zippy> another one that started with a, access I think?
628: [02:50:30] <spronk> actrix?
629: [02:50:43] <irogue_> xtra > paradise > wired country > ihug > snap > bigpipe
630: [02:50:58] <Pyromanik> (mum's) xtra, ihug, paradise, telstra cable, slingshit, snap
631: [02:51:04] <zippy> yea Actrix!
632: [02:51:13] <spronk> pretty much every self-respecting dial up gamer in nz was with paradise for at least some stretch
633: [02:51:30] <irogue_> heck yeah
634: [02:51:37] <Pyromanik> dial up? nah bruv, dsl.
635: [02:51:43] <spronk> jetstart
636: [02:51:46] * spronk chuckles
637: [02:51:49] <Pyromanik> lulz, the realm.
638: [02:51:50] <Pyromanik> fuck yes.
639: [02:51:53] <spronk> OMG
640: [02:51:54] <Pyromanik> always the realm.
641: [02:51:54] <spronk> i forgot about that
642: [02:52:09] <spronk> full speed to jetstreamgames ftp and gaming servers
643: [02:52:10] <spronk> loooool
644: [02:52:10] <Pyromanik> except when flatmates need intnet for 'homework'.
645: [02:52:21] <spronk> good times
646: [02:52:21] <irogue_> looks like I joined snap in 2008
647: [02:52:43] <irogue_> 7 year customer til 2d fucked it
648: [02:52:43] * spronk can say with confidence that the worst ISP he has ever been with was vodafone
649: [02:52:58] <spronk> aaand when my contract is up with 2d, i'm prolly goneburgers
650: [02:53:07] <Pyromanik> wholey fuck. Free 4 gig flash drive. Sweet.
651: [02:53:13] <irogue_> spronk: oh yes, same. was briefly with them (~2mo) for cable while waiting for my UFB at current place to get connected
652: [02:53:17] <Pyromanik> Thanks Booking Live :D
653: [02:54:11] <Pyromanik> irogue_, so I heard some hubbub about fritz boxes and no BOYD allowance when it first happened. I could live with that. What else fucked up?
654: [02:54:15] <Pyromanik> along the way
655: [02:54:45] <irogue_> Pyromanik: yeah, main thing is the mandatory fritzbox, but also the helpdesk has gone to shit and they've started sometimes getting slow in peak times
656: [02:55:02] <Pyromanik> oh, so basically turned into every other ISP out there?
657: [02:55:07] <irogue_> yup
658: [02:55:13] <Pyromanik> sadface :<
659: [02:55:24] <Pyromanik> But if that's the case, I can probably still live with that.
660: [02:55:30] <Pyromanik> I have my own device, but ... oh well.
661: [02:55:41] <Pyromanik> Linksys with the wifi N's.
662: [02:55:54] <Pyromanik> bit outdate now, but was top shit when I got it.
663: [02:56:02] <Pyromanik> because netbook has the wifi Ns
664: [02:56:16] <Pyromanik> didn't want none of that slow G shit.
665: [02:56:33] <irogue_> Pyromanik: genuinely can recommend bigpipe highly
666: [02:56:43] <Pyromanik> is it a big pipe?
667: [02:56:47] <Pyromanik> do I BOYD?
668: [02:57:01] <micmania1> Pyromanik: Bigpipe are areet. I give them monies. They give me internets.
669: [02:57:18] <irogue_> BYOD only, they have a big fat international pipe that never seems to get saturated
670: [02:57:20] <Pyromanik> or rather b m o d?
671: [02:57:25] <Pyromanik> cool
672: [02:57:31] <irogue_> no contracts
673: [02:57:36] <Pyromanik> so what happened to the sweet welly cables?
674: [02:57:40] <irogue_> the catch is no telephone helpdesk
675: [02:57:41] <micmania1> no phone support either :p
676: [02:57:43] <irogue_> email/twitter only
677: [02:57:45] <micmania1> which I prefer
678: [02:57:51] <micmania1> cos people suck.
679: [02:57:56] <irogue_> but <1hr whenever i've emailed
680: [02:57:57] <Pyromanik> and they can't understand you?
681: [02:57:59] <Pyromanik> :P
682: [02:58:04] <micmania1> that too haha
683: [02:58:16] <Pyromanik> be like how every help desk in NZ goes to India.
684: [02:58:20] * irogue_ imagines micmania1 on the phone with an oursourced indian helpdesk
685: [02:58:24] <Pyromanik> every helpdesk in the UK goes to Glasgow.
686: [02:58:30] <Pyromanik> Glasgow. The India of the UK.
687: [02:58:44] <Pyromanik> "Is there anyone in your house who speaks English?"
688: [02:58:46] <micmania1> Pyromanik: Liverpool and Newcastle are big areas too
689: [02:59:00] <micmania1> for call centres.
690: [02:59:10] <Pyromanik> THE FUCK YOU TALK'n BOUT YOU SCOTCH MORON? YOU BEEN DRINKIN ALL DAY OR WOT?
691: [02:59:15] <Pyromanik> :P
692: [02:59:34] <Pyromanik> scouses I can understand.
693: [02:59:50] <Pyromanik> geordies I could too towards the end like
694: [03:00:07] <Pyromanik> to be fair I had no issues ever with the scots either. But the missus... lol.
695: [03:00:09] <micmania1> I couldn’t understand you haha
696: [03:00:12] <Pyromanik> hahahah
697: [03:00:15] <micmania1> when I came back. You picked up the twang
698: [03:00:25] <Pyromanik> fuck, it got worse I tell you.
699: [03:00:27] <micmania1> You’re kiwi-geordie.
700: [03:00:52] <Pyromanik> accent dun got proppa fooked liek.
701: [03:00:54] <irogue_> you'll probably end up geordie-kiwi eventually micmania1
702: [03:02:15] <Pyromanik> Although I'd still get called up by the locals. "Felling". FUCK, NO. Come and live heeah fer 2 yeas and ya still cannat get this right? FELLON.
703: [03:02:43] * BrewNaked has joined #silverstripe
704: [03:02:44] <Pyromanik> So there you have it. Everyone on the wrong side of the water is a felon.
705: [03:02:52] <irogue_> https://twitter.com/bigpipenz
706: [03:02:58] <Pyromanik> BIGPENISNZ
707: [03:02:59] <Pyromanik> LULZ
708: [03:03:15] <Pyromanik> dat scanread
709: [03:03:33] <Pyromanik> fukkit, beer time
710: [03:04:54] <irogue_> i'm one ahead of ya
711: [03:05:19] <DanaeNZ> i need more sunglasses
712: [03:06:55] <Pyromanik> I don't even know where i was in march.
713: [03:06:59] <Pyromanik> :<
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715: [03:07:45] <Pyromanik> Who married Michael Jackson in 1994?
716: [03:07:45] <irogue_> http://iforce.co.nz/i/tpwka1pf.odb.jpg
717: [03:08:25] <Pyromanik> oh, it's like 4pm. mint. Elementary should emerge soon.
718: [03:08:33] <zippy> Prezly?
719: [03:08:40] <DanaeNZ> I did
720: [03:08:44] <DanaeNZ> I married MJ in '94
721: [03:08:57] <Pyromanik> Lisa Marie Presley.
722: [03:09:05] <Pyromanik> Thanks Tui, but I already knew that one.
723: [03:09:12] <Pyromanik> well, could guess it.
724: [03:09:25] <Pyromanik> If the cap'd asked who is second wife was I'd have been fucked :<
725: [03:09:26] <Pyromanik> haha
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727: [03:15:08] <spronk> ho lee fuck
728: [03:15:10] <spronk> this is a HUGE banana
729: [03:16:21] <DanaeNZ> that's what she said
730: [03:16:22] <irogue_> pics or it didn't happen
731: [03:16:30] <DanaeNZ> banana for scale
732: [03:16:32] * irogue_ high-fives DanaeNZ
733: [03:16:41] * spronk uploads
734: [03:17:28] <DanaeNZ> +_+ _b
735: [03:17:37] <spronk> http://imgur.com/PFm5v8c
736: [03:17:40] <spronk> macbook pro keyboard for scale.
737: [03:18:26] <zippy> spronk: using both your chunderbolt ports?
738: [03:18:49] <spronk> it is approximately 27cm long, and... 4.5cm in diameter
739: [03:18:54] <spronk> zippy ja
740: [03:18:58] <spronk> 2 external monitors
741: [03:19:37] <DanaeNZ> that's a bigass banana
742: [03:19:44] <DanaeNZ> perfect ripeness
743: [03:19:51] <spronk> :D
744: [03:20:32] <zippy> what monitor you using?
745: [03:21:00] <spronk> dell 2713hm + u2410 (x2, other one connected to pc)
746: [03:21:15] <irogue_> that is quite a large banana
747: [03:21:16] <zippy> 4k?
748: [03:21:21] <spronk> zippy nah
749: [03:21:30] <spronk> 2560xwhateveritis
750: [03:22:58] <spronk> pretty sure the mrs would not eat this banana
751: [03:23:13] <zippy> mm still better than 1920
752: [03:23:21] <spronk> mm
753: [03:23:47] <spronk> i'd rather have 2560x1440 than 4k on 27"
754: [03:24:17] <spronk> 5k on the other hand...
755: [03:25:29] <zippy> which one do you like between them?
756: [03:25:36] <spronk> hmm?
757: [03:25:45] <zippy> dell 2713hm or the u2410
758: [03:26:04] <spronk> 27
759: [03:30:21] <Pyromanik> wholey fuck moving back home is *so* fun.
760: [03:30:22] <irogue_> jammin' to some bieber on the couch
761: [03:30:33] <irogue_> #friday
762: [03:30:51] <Pyromanik> having to explain to and get lectured by mother my financial situation.
763: [03:30:56] <Pyromanik> and job status.
764: [03:31:20] <Pyromanik> It's been a long time since I felt 15.
765: [03:31:25] <Pyromanik> ironically, about 15 years ago.
766: [03:32:42] <Pyromanik> beer o'clock irogue_ ?
767: [03:32:47] <irogue_> yep
768: [03:33:00] <irogue_> most people are downstairs in the show+tell
769: [03:33:20] <irogue_> just me and katie on the couch drinkin'
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771: [03:35:51] <Pyromanik> 16.17 pound spent on "Non Sterling fee"
772: [03:40:16] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
773: [03:40:19] <irogue_> [16:30:51] <Pyromanik> having to explain to and get lectured by mother my financial situation.
774: [03:40:23] <irogue_> do not miss
775: [03:41:50] <Pyromanik> ikr
776: [03:42:00] <DanaeNZ> why doesn't this dev understand composer
777: [03:42:08] <Pyromanik> dumdum
778: [03:42:50] <DanaeNZ> he's like, run the silverstripe updates. Oh, but add cms/framework to the VCS. No, we don't want to run composer install cos it might result in different results on different servers
779: [03:42:52] <DanaeNZ> what the fuck
780: [03:42:53] <DanaeNZ> no
781: [03:42:54] <DanaeNZ> augh
782: [03:43:07] <DanaeNZ> wait he said environments
783: [03:43:09] <DanaeNZ> same diff
784: [03:43:40] <DanaeNZ> so basically I have to add cms/framework to repo not to mention any modules that are affected
785: [03:43:55] <DanaeNZ> omg whatever it's friday I don't even care
786: [03:54:31] <Pyromanik> slap the cunt. Composer install references a specific commit. That's the entire fuck'n point of composer install.
787: [03:54:40] <Pyromanik> and the lock file.
788: [03:55:54] <DanaeNZ> i don't think he knows about the lock file omfg
789: [03:56:08] <DanaeNZ> hahah looks like his coworkers slapped some sense into him
790: [03:56:22] <DanaeNZ> "OK - well looks like quiet a few ppl recommed running composer install on production. Not sure I see the point/diff... work flow pref I guess"
791: [03:56:32] <DanaeNZ> hahahahhaha
792: [03:56:36] <DanaeNZ> enraged screaming
793: [03:58:57] <DanaeNZ> now i gotta write up a maintenance report oh man plsss
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795: [04:03:48] <Pyromanik> DanaeNZ, Strong passive aggressive command to RTFM
796: [04:03:54] <Pyromanik> recommended
797: [04:08:17] <DanaeNZ> rtfm? read the fucking manual?
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799: [04:09:51] <ss-helper> annonick: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
800: [04:10:46] <annonick> is it possible to use a fork of framework with composer?
801: [04:11:59] <DanaeNZ> annonick: yeah, you will need to add it to packagist
802: [04:12:33] <Pyromanik> fuck, figured it out
803: [04:12:34] <DanaeNZ> althoughhhhh the additional modules you install with composer will all look for the silverstripe one...
804: [04:12:49] <Pyromanik> irogue_, no foreign currency fee on those transactions.
805: [04:13:03] <annonick> DanaeNZ: makes sense
806: [04:13:06] <Pyromanik> "Internet services" - after some serious sense
807: [04:13:10] <Pyromanik> ISGL
808: [04:13:10] <annonick> cheers
809: [04:13:20] <Pyromanik> 2 nz domains and a .org
810: [04:13:26] <Pyromanik> huzzah!
811: [04:13:28] <annonick> hmmmm
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813: [04:13:52] <Pyromanik> DanaeNZ, no you don't
814: [04:13:53] <Pyromanik> annonick,
815: [04:13:54] <Pyromanik> you don't.
816: [04:13:59] <Pyromanik> need it on packagist.
817: [04:14:01] <Pyromanik> RTFM
818: [04:14:02] <Pyromanik> gosh
819: [04:14:06] <Pyromanik> (DanaeNZ)
820: [04:14:24] <DanaeNZ> magiiccc
821: [04:14:36] <DanaeNZ> teach me composer senpai
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823: [04:16:22] <annonick> Pyromanik: will other modules work with the fork?
824: [04:16:33] <Pyromanik> yes, you basically alias it.
825: [04:17:06] <annonick> neat
826: [04:17:10] <annonick> will give that a burl
827: [04:18:10] <Pyromanik> there is this, but is a bit more permenant. https://getcomposer.org/doc/04-schema.md#replace
828: [04:19:58] <annonick> yeah, I just need a temporary solution
829: [04:20:06] <Pyromanik> I think this is ithttps://getcomposer.org/doc/05-repositories.md#loading-a-package-from-a-vcs-repository
830: [04:20:09] <Pyromanik> https://getcomposer.org/doc/05-repositories.md#loading-a-package-from-a-vcs-repository
831: [04:21:03] <Pyromanik> yeh, it's the repositories tag.
832: [04:21:41] <Pyromanik> you basically list repos, it scans them on boot & figures out what packages are in them, then if one of those is a requirement it uses the specified repo instead of the package default.
833: [04:21:52] <Pyromanik> so you dont' actually change the require segment.
834: [04:23:47] <Guest23106> Yeah, you leave the require bit as is, and just add a 'vcs' repository pointing to your fork. Don't use 'replaces' (unless you want to be like tractorcow and screw up someone else's Packagist package ;D)
835: [04:24:40] <annonick> so my require stays as: "silverstripe/framework": "3.1.*"
836: [04:25:29] <annonick> do i need a branch alias?
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839: [04:46:25] <Pyromanik> annonick, I think that goes into the repositories bit
840: [04:46:27] <Pyromanik> as well
841: [04:46:38] <Pyromanik> I dunno, read more docs :P
842: [04:46:51] * Pyromanik isnt' all that experienced with composer himself
843: [04:50:12] <spronk> :O
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845: [04:51:56] <Pyromanik> ? spronk
846: [04:52:06] <spronk> you not a composer guru?
847: [04:53:19] <Guest23106> annonick: You'd change the second part, instead of 3.1.*, you cound do e.g. dev-pulls/annonicks-branch, if your branch name with your custom code is pulls/annonicks-branch
848: [04:53:56] <Guest23106> Or if you've just committed to master, then just do dev-master, but that will make it hard for you to contribute back, and also update later if you want to pull new SS framework changes in
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854: [05:08:07] <Pyromanik> Time to see if can get into starwarrzle
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860: [05:44:23] <annonick> Pyromanik: i just had to add this: "silverstripe/framework": "dev-patch-1 as 3.1.9",
861: [05:44:33] <annonick> all working well!
862: [05:44:42] <annonick> thanks for your help guys
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888: [09:55:15] <elgabbu> hi
889: [09:55:46] <wmk> working in silence, phone rings, nearly a heart attack
890: [09:57:39] <elgabbu> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5673d87adcd5c
891: [09:57:45] <elgabbu> got a weird issue ...
892: [09:57:54] <elgabbu> when doing a dev build in the above scenario
893: [09:58:06] <wmk> Mike123, didn't you have a translatable validation issue theese days?
894: [09:58:17] <elgabbu> the table for PartnerReviewScreenshot doesn't get created
895: [09:58:51] <elgabbu> and getCMSFields in PartnerReviewPage fails because it tries to join with that table
896: [09:59:11] <wmk> hmm, you flushed before dev/build?
897: [09:59:39] <elgabbu> i run dev build like this .... framework/sake dev/build flush=1
898: [10:03:12] <elgabbu> if I specify DB fields on PartnerReviewScreenshot it still is ignored
899: [10:03:54] <wmk> elgabbu, i normally run dev/build in command line (with a git post-merge hook)
900: [10:04:02] <wmk> but sometimes you have to call it from the browser
901: [10:04:23] <wmk> maybe when it's a different user, www and cli
902: [10:04:36] <wmk> so try to flush in browser first, then run dev/build in browser
903: [10:06:21] <elgabbu> hmmm now i created a bogus db field in ImageAsset and the table got created
904: [10:06:50] <elgabbu> its like if the parent class doesn't have a physical table the child doesn't get created
905: [10:06:52] <Eliseth> I have a page that displays information of a property: $Action. So mysite.com/property/1234 displays property 1234. So far so good. Now I want to have a way to render that page using a different template, something like http://mysite.com/property/plain/1234 or the other way around. How would I do that?
906: [10:10:41] <elgabbu> even more interesting http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5673db905e92a
907: [10:11:12] <elgabbu> when processing PartnerReviewScreenshot on dev build it mixing up with image asset and still doesn't create the table
908: [10:12:34] <ss-helper> Silverstripe File missing description - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34352913/silverstripe-file-missing-description
909: [10:16:48] <wmk> elgabbu, i doubt that
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911: [10:18:23] <elgabbu> wmk as you can see from the dump
912: [10:18:29] <elgabbu> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5673db905e92a
913: [10:19:05] <wmk> elgabbu, but - with sitetree it works
914: [10:19:24] <wmk> SiteTree has all the fields, Page has no fields, MyPage extends Page has fields and gets created
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916: [10:29:31] <elgabbu> wmk i know but in this case it doesn't its very weird
917: [10:31:34] <wmk> yup
918: [10:42:56] <Eliseth> Any ideas?
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920: [10:54:33] <wmk> !debug Eliseth
921: [10:54:33] <ss-helper> Eliseth: Maybe it's time to start xdebug and see whats going on... check out http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/developer_guides/debugging/ and http://xdebug.org/docs/
922: [10:55:10] <Eliseth> huh, debug? There's nothing to debug :D
923: [10:55:11] <wmk> sorry, got confused with all that E-nicks
924: [10:55:14] <Eliseth> It' working as is
925: [10:55:42] <Eliseth> Just looking for a way to add extra functionality :D
926: [10:55:49] <wmk> well Eliseth you need to get a parameter and choose the template
927: [10:56:41] <wmk> how do you now get the ID? with the URLSlug pattern?
928: [10:56:45] <wmk> using $url_handler ?
929: [10:57:15] <wmk> maybe something like /property/1234/plain would be simpler
930: [10:57:42] <Eliseth> $url_handlers and urlParams['Action']
931: [10:57:48] <wmk> yup.
932: [10:58:12] <wmk> then modify it, make a param for "template" and put the template in the action
933: [10:58:39] <wmk> now you have something like return $foo->renderWith([nomaltemplate]);
934: [10:58:51] <wmk> then you have to check $template and ->renderWith($template)
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936: [11:00:08] <Eliseth> hm
937: [11:00:44] <wmk> but url_handler / urlslug and action is a bit tricky. First come first serve
938: [11:00:53] <wmk> so the order of your url_handlers is very important
939: [11:00:58] <wmk> have to run
940: [11:01:48] <Eliseth> tnx
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944: [11:26:28] <elgabbu> any suggestion how I can add some kind of message on top of a grid field?
945: [11:26:48] <elgabbu> is there a particular component type one can use?
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953: [14:00:41] <ss-helper> Janne_: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
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986: [18:02:44] <Sphere> I'm still completely unable to login to my CMS :(
987: [18:18:10] <Sphere> Hmmm, so, I found that having a % sign in your password makes it unusable?!
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994: [18:52:14] <ss-helper> Re: Beep Boop - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/EJU0gyGVfNY/jyms0Mj3AwAJ
995: [18:52:21] <Sphere> Stupid firefox keeps crashing
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998: [19:06:21] <wmk> so helpful robert added a travis config to my repo.
999: [19:06:34] <wmk> and how do i configure travis? anyone knows a tut?
1000: [19:27:53] <madmatt> wmk: There's not really a tutorial, but it's pretty easy. You sign up to https://travis-ci.org using your GitHub username, then it will list all your repos, you flick a switch to turn Travis on for that repo
1001: [19:28:23] <wmk> sounds fine
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1003: [19:28:47] <madmatt> Travis reads the .travis.yml file from your repo and runs tests. You can see more info here: https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-travis-support
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1005: [19:31:46] <wmk> but on github site i don't need to configure any hook or so?
1006: [19:32:39] <madmatt> Nope, enabling travis for your repo and having the .travis.yml file is enough
1007: [19:34:13] <madmatt> There's one you can setup for Scrutinizer (a different tool), but it's not needed for Travis
1008: [19:34:33] <madmatt> Oh wait a minute, there *is* a hook for Travis, oops
1009: [19:35:13] <madmatt> Sorry, I didn't see it on the services page. Go to your repo, click Settings, click Webhooks & services on the left, then click 'Add service' and find Travis on the list
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1011: [19:35:59] <madmatt> But I think Travis sets this up for you, so it might already be there when you turn your module on within Travis. Pretty sure I've never set it up myself
1012: [19:36:24] <wmk> fine.
1013: [19:36:43] <wmk> now i wonder why just one test run, others failed...
1014: [19:38:12] <wmk> hmm mysql had a problem
1015: [19:40:42] <wmk> Duplicate entry '4-2' for key 'RecordID_Version'
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1022: [21:17:30] <madmatt> wmk: Link?
1023: [21:17:56] <madmatt> Oh sorry I see you sent a PM
1024: [21:17:59] <wmk> sent you in PM
1025: [21:18:11] <wmk> seems on 3.2 my tests are failing, but i wonder why
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1027: [21:25:46] <madmatt> Ah looks like you got it fixed
1028: [21:25:57] <madmatt> Well, for 3.1 anyway
1029: [21:26:06] <madmatt> 3.2 is probably because there's something changed that needs updating
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1036: [22:23:23] <wmk> madmatt, i guess so
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