#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 11 November 2015

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1: [00:00:20] <shellbackpacific> zippy: thanks for the reference. I thought I read through everything dang!
2: [00:01:05] <zippy> sweet ass
3: [00:01:11] <Colin[pi]> zippy: :o
4: [00:01:14] <Colin[pi]> where?
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10: [00:12:48] <zippy> Colin[pi]: http://i.imgur.com/EiERt6q.png
11: [00:13:55] <Colin[pi]> zippy: http://i.imgur.com/TUXLVxg.gif
12: [00:14:15] <zippy> Colin[pi]: http://imgur.com/gallery/FgQ09QD (not CB)
13: [00:14:22] <zippy> and is indeed, a sweet ass
14: [00:15:50] <Colin[pi]> 👍
15: [00:16:00] <Colin[pi]> was expecting a picture of a donkey tbh
16: [00:16:07] <MichalKleiner> anyone had timeout problems with blog?
17: [00:16:08] <DanaeNZ> did someone say sweet ass
18: [00:17:34] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: why yes, yes they did
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20: [00:19:08] <DanaeNZ> nice
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25: [00:25:07] <zippy> o/ Stomach
26: [00:28:12] <helenclarko> ☺/ lol
27: [00:28:35] <Colin[pi]> 😑
28: [00:30:39] <ss23> cb'd the work channels
29: [00:30:39] <ss23> o/
30: [00:30:50] <ss23> "2mb well spent" "gr8" and "im kind of hungry now"
31: [00:32:44] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
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33: [00:37:39] <zippy> ss23: thats why you follow up with the other other one. So those who opt for a follow up risky click get rewarded:D
34: [00:37:54] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
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39: [00:48:16] <zippy> spronk: o/
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41: [00:52:58] <helenclarko> 😑
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43: [00:53:29] <Colin[pi]> 😑
44: [00:53:32] <Colin[pi]> irogue: o.
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46: [00:53:34] <Colin[pi]> shit
47: [00:53:35] <Colin[pi]> o/
48: [00:53:40] <irogue> hello
49: [00:53:42] <irogue> yes, I am still alive
50: [00:54:13] <helenclarko> Colin[pi]: hmmm, trying to work out why hexchat doesnt have the font for those emoticons
51: [00:55:30] <Colin[pi]> 😒
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54: [01:01:28] <Stomach> how do
55: [01:02:17] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: not bad, shit weather here doe
56: [01:03:26] <irogue> shit here too
57: [01:03:29] <Stomach> its hot here :\
58: [01:03:42] <irogue> looks pretty good for you Stomach http://www.sitecam.co.nz/auckland_webcam/desktop.html
59: [01:04:43] <irogue> I miss Auckland's weather
60: [01:06:07] <Stomach> lifes little uncertainty :D
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67: [01:15:53] <irogue> the weather is pretty certain in wellington: 95% of the time it'll be shite
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74: [01:29:39] <Stomach> haha irogue :D
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78: [01:50:35] <Tanger> Morning guys
79: [01:51:29] <DanaeNZ> afternoon
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81: [01:57:59] <Colin[pi]> yay it works
82: [01:58:11] <Colin[pi]> upgraded my WRT54GL firmware, like 5 years overdue
83: [02:09:37] <irogue> wow, still rocking a 54GL
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85: [02:11:01] <Colin[pi]> irogue: yeah dude
86: [02:11:06] <Colin[pi]> love it :D
87: [02:11:10] <irogue> I couldn't do that as the max throughput of the WRT54GL is only 32 Mbit/s
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89: [02:11:23] <Colin[pi]> irogue: doesn't matter much for me :)
90: [02:11:41] <irogue> does for me :) http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4741012098
91: [02:11:58] <Colin[pi]> irogue: not even going to click, I'm depressed just looking at the link
92: [02:15:11] <irogue> :D
93: [02:16:09] <irogue> http://iforce.co.nz/i/15glho1a.oqg.png
94: [02:16:35] * Colin[pi] weeps profusely
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96: [02:19:12] <zippy> ddeeecent
97: [02:20:20] <zippy> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4822151221
98: [02:21:10] <zippy> 7ms ping to city link.. thats pretty sweet
99: [02:23:35] <irogue> our PM just made a huge jug of hot lemon honey & ginger, and is feeding it to all of us
100: [02:23:56] <irogue> clearly she wants to make sure we don't get sick while this super tight deadline project is almost out of time :P
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103: [02:24:58] <irogue> zippy: VDSL?
104: [02:25:04] <zippy> fibre
105: [02:25:13] <irogue> 100/20 that ain't quite up to par?
106: [02:26:05] <zippy> yea, I think other computer is still downloading.... a linux distro..
107: [02:26:46] <irogue> :P
108: [02:30:59] <spronk> ugh wifi ruoters
109: [02:31:10] * spronk 's fritzbox is on the fritz, yet again
110: [02:31:21] <spronk> who here knows about smtp and dns
111: [02:31:28] <irogue> I do!
112: [02:31:36] <spronk> if a server is listed in MX record, it's supposed to respond on port 25, right?
113: [02:31:46] <irogue> definitely
114: [02:31:48] <spronk> or are there alt prots that are also considered valid?
115: [02:31:49] <spronk> yeahhh
116: [02:31:52] <spronk> fucking network 4 learning
117: [02:32:10] <spronk> schools stick MXs as 10 relay.n4l.co.nz, 20 relay1.n4l.co.nz, 30 relay2.n4l.co.nz
118: [02:32:17] <spronk> relay1 and relay2 don't accept incoming comms
119: [02:32:30] <irogue> ha
120: [02:32:36] <spronk> so when relay goes down and we temp blacklist it for being broken, relay1 and relay2 aalso break
121: [02:32:42] <spronk> their engineer keeps trying to tell me that "while this is not the norm, it is expected"
122: [02:32:54] <spronk> so that they can "swap ips" if relay.n4l is blacklisted
123: [02:32:55] <spronk> serious wtf.
124: [02:33:21] <spronk> and that it's this way because swapping IPs also "affects incoming mail"
125: [02:33:27] <spronk> MONKEYS
126: [02:33:29] <irogue> heh, I can kinda see how that'd work
127: [02:33:36] <spronk> well
128: [02:33:42] <irogue> it shouldn't matter too much unless relay.n4l.co.nz goes down
129: [02:33:42] <spronk> they're using aws dns, so...
130: [02:33:55] <spronk> it has micro outages
131: [02:34:00] <spronk> also has concurrent connection limits
132: [02:34:01] <irogue> since mail sending is prioritised 100% of attempts to send email should go to relay.n4l.co.nz
133: [02:34:14] <spronk> mm, but shit will break if it fails for whatever reason
134: [02:34:21] <irogue> nah, it'll just loop around
135: [02:34:38] <spronk> we're getting hundreds of emails deferred in linear backoff because relay.n4l returns 421s occasionally
136: [02:34:39] <irogue> try the 2nd mx, fail, try the 3rd mx, fail, then go back to the 1st mx again
137: [02:35:04] <spronk> ah yes
138: [02:35:13] <spronk> this is all very well and good until you deal with MTAs that cache broken servers
139: [02:35:22] <spronk> 421 = it's broken
140: [02:35:34] <irogue> 421 is pretty commonly returned for greylisting
141: [02:35:39] <spronk> yeah
142: [02:35:50] <irogue> so treating that as "its broken" is a massive failure of your mta
143: [02:36:10] <spronk> postfix does that by default
144: [02:36:23] <spronk> because there are alt mxs
145: [02:36:47] <spronk> been having similar issues with mandrill
146: [02:36:54] <spronk> and not our local mailer
147: [02:38:48] <spronk> seems like a pretty wack configuration to me though
148: [02:38:57] <irogue> yeah, it seems non-ideal
149: [02:39:20] <irogue> spark have quite a history of shittily configured mail servers tho
150: [02:39:22] <irogue> so no surprise
151: [02:39:25] <spronk> mm..
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153: [02:39:36] <spronk> i don't even get the rationale
154: [02:39:46] <spronk> why not just have all three accept incoming mail as relays?
155: [02:39:53] <spronk> and only send from one at a time
156: [02:40:02] <spronk> then switch if they get blacklisted?
157: [02:40:22] <spronk> aw damn you amazon
158: [02:40:27] <spronk> 850 evo 250gb for $75usd
159: [02:44:31] <irogue> I bought a new PSU last week
160: [02:44:33] <irogue> still haven't installed it
161: [02:44:45] * spronk can completely understand that
162: [02:44:48] <spronk> PSUs are a fucking pain
163: [02:44:52] <spronk> esp when you have to undo all your neat cable management
164: [02:44:57] <spronk> what did you buy?
165: [02:47:25] <Audlex> has anyone come across a module that will zip all files in a DO?
166: [02:48:09] <spronk> Audlex nope, though i would suggest that's someplace where you'd probably want to roll your own anyway
167: [02:48:30] <zippy> odd..
168: [02:48:53] <zippy> doing a ->sum('SomeColumn') will return null if no rows where actually counted
169: [02:49:05] <spronk> sounds buggy
170: [02:49:16] <zippy> yea id expect 0
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172: [02:49:34] <Audlex> thanks spronk
173: [02:49:53] <zippy> $total = MyObject::get()->filter(some stuff)->sum('SomeColumn'); -- if some stuff causes not records to match than.. 0.. surely
174: [02:49:54] <Audlex> I will leave it to the client to manually make their own
175: [02:50:53] <irogue> spronk: evga supernova 750 g2
176: [02:51:09] <spronk> urrw
177: [02:51:16] <irogue> my 650w corsair, though it should have been plenty for my PC, wasn't pushing out enough juice and the GPU would just shut down
178: [02:51:55] <spronk> :S yikes
179: [02:51:56] <irogue> been using a borrowed silverstone 750w since, but the reason it was spare is that it has serious noise issues (bung caps squealing)
180: [02:51:58] <spronk> what model corsair was it?
181: [02:52:52] <helenclarko> irogue: Naw Thats sooo cute... Its like the little pc that couldn't
182: [02:53:19] <irogue> spronk: HX650
183: [02:53:29] <spronk> wow.. dang... GPU?
184: [02:54:26] <irogue> radeon 280x
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186: [02:54:44] <spronk> wow
187: [02:55:02] <spronk> yeah, i would have expected an hx650 to chew that up and spit it right back at you
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189: [02:55:11] <ss23> Yeah, I upgraded to a 1.2kW PSU
190: [02:55:15] <ss23> Never had problems again <3
191: [02:55:36] <spronk> pretty happy with my x-650
192: [02:55:36] <irogue> CPU chews a lot of power too (8-core 4GHz), but yeah 650w should not have been an issue
193: [02:55:42] <irogue> pretty sure the psu was just failing
194: [02:55:46] <spronk> mm...
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196: [02:55:52] <spronk> warranty?
197: [02:56:00] <spronk> iirc they are 5-7y
198: [02:56:27] <irogue> like 2 months outside of warranty (of course)
199: [02:56:59] <spronk> laaaame
200: [02:59:04] <spronk> my hx620w is still going strong in my server after...
201: [02:59:05] <spronk> 7 years
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205: [03:04:33] <chocolatemoose> https://github.com/wilr/silverstripe-facebookconnect has anyone used the JS SDK to authenticate users using this?
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216: [04:33:27] <Stomach> ss23 fix it
217: [04:33:28] <Stomach> http://i.imgur.com/CVy1qnv.png
218: [04:33:30] <Stomach> fix it
219: [04:34:58] <spronk> er
220: [04:34:59] <spronk> wat
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222: [04:44:37] <irogue> I'm assuming he dislikes the "SilverStripe newsletter" (as do I)
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224: [04:46:47] <adrexia> what's wrong with it?
225: [04:47:10] <adrexia> does newsletter need a capital letter or something?
226: [04:47:28] <irogue> yeah casing doesn't match the other nav items, and SilverStripe is redundant since you're on the SS site
227: [04:47:40] <adrexia> that is quite true
228: [04:47:55] <adrexia> unless its the name of the publication
229: [04:48:04] <adrexia> like... a proper noun, I guess
230: [04:48:31] <irogue> mentioned it to cam anyway :)
231: [04:48:50] <adrexia> text-transform: capitalize;
232: [04:49:17] <adrexia> content editors can
233: [04:49:21] <adrexia> 'tcan't be trusted ;)
234: [04:50:27] <adrexia> and I say that as someone who sometimes edits content. It's much better to not have to think about it
235: [05:03:19] <ss23> what part is broke? :O
236: [05:07:10] <adrexia> nothing - it just needs a content change ;)
237: [05:07:10] <adrexia> "SilverStripe newsletter" should be "SilverStripe Newsletter"
238: [05:07:10] <adrexia> or "Newsletter"
239: [05:07:10] <adrexia> right, hometime
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248: [05:51:56] <MichalKleiner> is it safe to call ->first() after ->filter() on DataObject without checking for ->exists() first?
249: [05:52:15] <MichalKleiner> does filter return something that can cope with first when no items are found?
250: [05:59:40] <MichalKleiner> I'll answer to myself, it's safe
251: [06:00:03] <MichalKleiner> filter returns DataList even with no items
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267: [07:33:21] <zippy> god damn it.
268: [07:33:43] <zippy> "I can't handle sub-URLs of a CMSForm object." ... but thats the URL you get in the cms when you click on an item... so if you copy and paste it somewhere else it breaks..
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270: [07:34:14] <zippy> but it works "sometimes"
271: [07:43:34] <wmk> zippy, yup. annoying
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274: [07:45:46] <zippy> man. I just don't know about installing silverlight
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276: [07:48:55] <wmk> why should you install silverlight?
277: [07:49:18] <wmk> it's nearly 2016 now... not 2006
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279: [07:51:48] <zippy> yea, weird aye
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285: [08:29:23] <wmk> swaiba, ☺/
286: [08:29:23] <Eliseth> Morning
287: [08:29:33] <swaiba> morning wmk, morning all
288: [08:29:41] <Eliseth> wmk, swaiba o/
289: [08:30:18] <Tanger> Morning
290: [08:30:26] <wmk> it's UGT! Hooray
291: [08:30:49] <nontgor> r3v3rb: Yip that should work, maybe do it from a Task
292: [08:36:46] <Tanger> Hmmm… can you not set a controllers request in SS 2.4? :(
293: [08:37:15] <wmk> Tanger, nope, request is set by ... the request (from outside)
294: [08:37:25] <wmk> you need some other way to pass stuff around
295: [08:38:34] <Tanger> wmk: Perhaps you can advise if this is possible then: After processing a form, I need to send the post data off to another URL. I was going to use RequestHandler::setRequest (Which is on 3.X).
296: [08:38:45] <Tanger> Off the top of your head, know of any alternate methods to do something l;ike this?
297: [08:39:45] <wmk> to another url on the same system?
298: [08:39:51] <Tanger> External url
299: [08:40:15] <wmk> but isn't RequestHandler for managing incoming stuff?
300: [08:40:28] <wmk> i guess you need to get the current request and pass the Post stuff on something like CURL
301: [08:40:38] <Tanger> Hmmm
302: [08:40:48] <wmk> or some js magic in browser
303: [08:41:06] <Tanger> JS magic eh?
304: [08:41:40] <Tanger> Yeah, I guess so. It's directed to a hosted payment url, so I guess JS would work for sending the user's browser there
305: [08:42:07] <wmk> so - the browser should first send the data to you
306: [08:42:24] <Tanger> Yeah, gotta hash a fingerprint
307: [08:42:26] <wmk> then you tell the browser to send the data also to a seperate url you tell the browser?
308: [08:42:52] <Tanger> I guess so. It's the best way I've conceived so far
309: [08:42:58] <wmk> but for payment integration: isn't there some "howto" for this integration already somewhere?
310: [08:43:11] <wmk> maybe: do an ajax request to your server to get the fingerprint
311: [08:43:13] <zippy> old skool paypal is an example of they - submit to your site and render a page with hidden form fields and javascript to submit the form.. otherwise have a button saying "If you do not get redirected in 5 sections click here" which submits the form..
312: [08:43:47] <Tanger> Yeah, the payment system is pretty meh. But it's cheap, just like the client that requested it
313: [08:43:49] <zippy> the ajax idea of wmk is a good idea - that is how places like stripe do it
314: [08:44:07] <zippy> do ajax request, get response, update form in the js and then do the submit
315: [08:44:08] <wmk> Tanger, oh, cheap client
316: [08:44:14] <wmk> and omnipay doesn't fit?
317: [08:44:26] <zippy> which payment providor Tanger ?
318: [08:44:45] <Tanger> SecurePay.
319: [08:44:48] <wmk> zippy, https://github.com/burnbright/silverstripe-omnipay#compatible-payment-gateways
320: [08:45:00] <Tanger> You might be onto something, I think omnipay can handle it
321: [08:45:03] <zippy> wmk: .... don't need to send that to me
322: [08:45:13] <wmk> zippy, cmon
323: [08:45:16] <zippy> I use omnipay a bit, never with that ss addon thou
324: [08:45:42] <wmk> well, i never used it yet, but it sounds like a good payment wrapper
325: [08:45:45] <zippy> Tanger: https://github.com/thephpleague/omnipay-securepay bobs your uncle
326: [08:45:50] <wmk> burnbright shop uses it
327: [08:45:59] <wmk> zippy, boobs your uncle?
328: [08:46:11] <Tanger> Thanks uncle boob
329: [08:46:12] <zippy> wmk: never used omnipay or never used the silverstripe-omnipay?
330: [08:46:17] <Tanger> And thanks wmk, zippy :D
331: [08:47:06] <Tanger> I'll give it a crack
332: [08:47:21] <wmk> Tanger, good luck!
333: [08:47:42] <wmk> though i still wonder about that funny looking uncle...
334: [08:48:07] <Tanger> wmk: Parent always said he was a bit of a tit…HEYOOOO!
335: [08:48:55] <zippy> Tanger: I've used omnipay several times now and all pretty good :)
336: [08:49:13] <zippy> that silverstripe wrapper ^ looks quite useful as well
337: [08:52:32] <wmk> tanger, willmorgan did a nice talk about "reuse other components" (aka don't reinvent the wheel again and again)
338: [08:54:05] <wmk> Tanger, https://vimeo.com/silverstripe/review/136600408/3261c453d8
339: [08:55:29] <Tanger> wmk: Nice. I'll have to give it a look.
340: [08:55:30] <veb> wmk: if its any cnosolttitititititotn
341: [08:55:34] <veb> i oto read it a boobs
342: [08:55:36] <veb> not bobs
343: [08:55:38] <veb> :O
344: [08:55:43] <ss23> boobs?
345: [08:55:44] <ss23> :O
346: [08:56:16] <veb> :O
347: [08:56:41] <wmk> veb, cnsollwera??
348: [08:56:55] * wmk is now known as miss_reading
349: [08:56:55] <veb> say... what
350: [08:56:59] <miss_reading> ??
351: [08:57:05] <veb> I recognie this name
352: [08:57:12] * miss_reading is now known as wmk
353: [08:57:15] <veb> from something
354: [08:57:30] <zippy> a wrapper around the wrapper around the api :)
355: [08:57:33] <veb> no no
356: [08:57:34] <wmk> well, shouldn't zippy refere to aunt instead of uncle?
357: [08:57:44] <veb> you're being coincidental
358: [08:57:51] <veb> now whatdoes missreading remind me of
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360: [08:57:54] <veb> fckckkkk
361: [08:58:00] <veb> p.s. sory for sounding drunk
362: [08:58:06] <veb> i'm actually just three days tired
363: [08:58:10] <Pyrmnk> you are?
364: [08:58:17] <veb> we've been robbd four times, in 3 weeks.
365: [08:58:18] <Pyrmnk> oh. go to sleep.
366: [08:58:25] <wmk> Pyrmnk, you join again and the first you read is... *LOOL*
367: [08:58:29] <veb> Pyrmnk: try win that onewith my wife.
368: [08:58:30] <Pyrmnk> your house?
369: [08:58:34] <veb> indeed
370: [08:58:42] <zippy> damn thats harsh..
371: [08:58:45] <Pyrmnk> lay some traps.
372: [08:58:51] <veb> it's not often you her the cops at the door before you... put down the phone
373: [08:58:53] <wmk> veb oh
374: [08:58:54] <veb> seriously
375: [08:58:57] <veb> this is _DUNEDIN_
376: [08:59:05] <veb> cops showed up with _GLOCKS_
377: [08:59:26] <Pyrmnk> the cops robbing your house?
378: [08:59:31] <veb> I has a two year old son, an a wifey, and she refuses to sleep, nless one of us isup
379: [08:59:35] <veb> Pyrmnk: probably tbh
380: [08:59:52] <veb> the cops are really really confused
381: [08:59:54] <zippy> veb: time to gtfo?
382: [08:59:59] <veb> because... we're not the onyl place
383: [09:00:01] <Pyrmnk> I hope you work from home!
384: [09:00:04] <veb> few syreets across
385: [09:00:05] <veb> Pyrmnk: id o
386: [09:00:09] <veb> but i 'm deaf.
387: [09:00:12] <veb> lol
388: [09:00:21] <veb> I atually woke upnthe seond time
389: [09:00:26] <veb> i smelled bleach
390: [09:00:29] <veb> i was WUT
391: [09:00:39] <veb> usualy you'd hitme with a brick
392: [09:00:46] <veb> and id be like opfft go back to slep zzzz
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394: [09:01:01] <zippy> bleach? cleaning company got the wrong house? :)
395: [09:01:12] <Pyrmnk> so these are home invasion robberies? D:
396: [09:01:32] <veb> nope
397: [09:01:35] <veb> thenf uckers
398: [09:01:41] <zippy> your kid ok? be pretty traumatic..
399: [09:01:42] <veb> I think theyuderstand 'irony'
400: [09:01:44] <veb> cos they used ...
401: [09:01:47] <Pyrmnk> zippy, sounds like they're cleaning him out alright :(
402: [09:01:48] <veb> my toilet cleanr
403: [09:01:50] <veb> hahahhaahahaa
404: [09:01:51] <veb> :(
405: [09:01:56] <veb> mbp was gone
406: [09:02:00] <veb> my cochlear implnt gear
407: [09:02:03] <veb> medicine
408: [09:02:09] <veb> new 27" curved monior
409: [09:02:12] <veb> mac mini
410: [09:02:18] <veb> few other things
411: [09:02:26] <veb> and yes, my son isn't doing terribly well
412: [09:02:28] <veb> we're out of here
413: [09:02:31] <veb> tuesday
414: [09:02:35] <veb> :)
415: [09:03:00] <zippy> insurance cover ^ ok?
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417: [09:03:15] <veb> ah wifeis a bner
418: [09:03:16] <veb> banker
419: [09:03:18] <veb> wanker
420: [09:03:20] <veb> whatever
421: [09:03:21] <veb> lol
422: [09:03:22] <ss-helper> How to save multiple values entered into ListBoxField and loop through values? - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33647047/how-to-save-multiple-values-entered-into-listboxfield-and-loop-through-values
423: [09:03:25] <Pyrmnk> lol.
424: [09:03:26] <Tanger> lol
425: [09:03:37] <veb> so we've got full asset replaement insurance
426: [09:03:41] <veb> so silerliingin..
427: [09:03:45] <Pyrmnk> still.
428: [09:03:46] <veb> my 2013 mbp
429: [09:03:52] <veb> i'll geta 2015mbp
430: [09:03:55] <veb> nb.png
431: [09:04:16] <Pyrmnk> so, armed police turned up to a robbery report?
432: [09:04:42] <zippy> veb: same entry point?
433: [09:05:04] <veb> Pyrmnk: not originally. two officers. but first thing i noticed
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435: [09:05:17] <veb> was both had tasers, and stab proof vest x2
436: [09:05:25] <veb> like a little bit over the top
437: [09:05:29] <Pyrmnk> scary shit.
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439: [09:05:33] <kinglozzer> yo Pyrmnk
440: [09:05:36] <kinglozzer> long time no see
441: [09:05:36] <veb> both obviously bnanging each other
442: [09:05:37] <veb> ol
443: [09:05:38] <veb> lol
444: [09:05:43] <veb> but then when they saw the scene
445: [09:05:45] <Pyrmnk> cops are not supposed to be armed at all.
446: [09:05:47] <veb> toilet window open
447: [09:05:54] <veb> beach everywhere
448: [09:05:56] <zippy> they're allow to carry tasers..
449: [09:05:59] <veb> nd my offic eranacked
450: [09:06:00] <veb> ...
451: [09:06:04] <veb> six minutes is all it took
452: [09:06:10] <veb> for abut 12 guys to show up
453: [09:06:12] <veb> with glocks
454: [09:06:14] <veb> and rifles
455: [09:06:16] <veb> and dog
456: [09:06:18] <veb> s
457: [09:06:23] <kinglozzer> damn you got robbed veb?
458: [09:06:27] <veb> ... I think that scared me more
459: [09:06:28] * kinglozzer logs
460: [09:06:49] <veb> and the only reason I was alerted to it
461: [09:06:52] <veb> was cos of the smell
462: [09:06:56] <veb> my wife who is hearing
463: [09:06:58] <zippy> kinglozzer: [21:58:17] <veb> we've been robbd four times, in 3 weeks.
464: [09:06:59] <veb> didn't her anything
465: [09:07:03] <Pyrmnk> zippy, maybe, but guns should never leave the station unless on armed offenders call out
466: [09:07:23] <veb> ^
467: [09:07:32] <veb> i mean they JUST past the taser thing
468: [09:07:33] <kinglozzer> oh wow that's awful :(
469: [09:07:41] <veb> and I am REALLY REALLY worriedbout hose
470: [09:07:45] <veb> cos an electric fence
471: [09:07:49] <veb> can blow up acochlear implnt
472: [09:07:55] <veb> (it's happened to a few kids)
473: [09:08:17] <veb> so, imagine if you matched the desription of osmeone supposedly armed, walking down st, didn't hear cops behind you
474: [09:08:19] <veb> get shot
475: [09:08:22] <veb> ...
476: [09:08:28] <veb> mmm
477: [09:08:40] <veb> but the hardest is seeing th wife+kid tho
478: [09:08:45] <zippy> thank fully not america though..
479: [09:08:51] <veb> zippy++
480: [09:10:01] <zippy> veb: wouldn't blame you if you walked around your house all the time with a knife and a bat...
481: [09:10:09] <veb> knife no
482: [09:10:12] <veb> bat no
483: [09:10:16] <veb> golf club is the way
484: [09:10:21] <veb> less air resistance
485: [09:10:24] <veb> hurts more
486: [09:10:27] <veb> lighter
487: [09:10:31] <veb> easier to use
488: [09:10:32] <veb> :P
489: [09:10:38] <zippy> if you swing and miss it opens up the side of your body..
490: [09:10:44] <veb> sadly we live in country
491: [09:10:46] <veb> where....
492: [09:10:51] <veb> you're more likely to go to priosn longer
493: [09:10:58] <veb> if you hut the invader
494: [09:11:26] <zippy> I know there is the law around reasonable force and all that shit, but I don't think anyone has been done for it
495: [09:11:28] <veb> the cops ha the nerve to tell me (a deaf guy) if i hd any martial arts taining I am to yell it out, and befor I engage, undertsnad them
496: [09:11:30] <veb> i'm like
497: [09:11:32] <veb> ...
498: [09:11:33] <veb> ...
499: [09:11:36] <veb> ... really
500: [09:11:43] <veb> in the dark even?
501: [09:11:56] <zippy> i recall someone in a shop was getting robbed and he ended up killing him and they cops charged him but got dropped
502: [09:12:01] <veb> so I did not tell them I have a back belt in tawkwondo
503: [09:12:13] <zippy> :)
504: [09:12:20] <veb> zippy: it's about proving you used adequte force
505: [09:12:26] <veb> like you saw tem with a bat
506: [09:12:30] <veb> and shoot them with a rifle
507: [09:12:35] <veb> ... that's wrong
508: [09:12:36] <veb> lol
509: [09:13:00] <veb> a bat vs bat/golf club yeah
510: [09:13:05] <veb> but it's murky shit
511: [09:13:07] <zippy> I got no idea what they have, I got no idea if there is a guy outside.. but if they come into my house in the middle of the nite, I will go like a crazed monkey...
512: [09:13:21] <veb> zippy: yeah... thats how i remmebere i had black belt
513: [09:13:30] <veb> in both karate and taekwondo
514: [09:13:34] <veb> had completely forgotten
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516: [09:13:57] <veb> had a roguh time when iwas younger, and it was no-no to fight outide the dojo
517: [09:13:58] <veb> so..
518: [09:14:02] <veb> mm
519: [09:14:15] <veb> it just flooded back so fast
520: [09:14:26] <veb> I nearly jumped out a two story window
521: [09:14:26] <zippy> so you saw the guys?
522: [09:14:29] <veb> to get to them
523: [09:14:30] <veb> lol
524: [09:14:38] <veb> I only saw the back of 'em
525: [09:14:48] <veb> and I used my phone camera flash epileptic setting
526: [09:14:52] <veb> and you know what?
527: [09:14:57] <veb> they didn't even run
528: [09:15:03] <veb> they continued normally.
529: [09:15:12] <veb> which makes me even more stessed
530: [09:15:28] <veb> cos just two days agoI was home alone, on the shitty ocm[ute they left me
531: [09:15:33] <veb> and...
532: [09:15:40] <veb> ca jumped up on kv
533: [09:15:43] <veb> kb
534: [09:15:45] <veb> she never does htat
535: [09:15:47] <veb> hten I realised
536: [09:15:48] <veb> tht
537: [09:15:53] <veb> is not a rubbish truck
538: [09:15:57] <veb> and ran tot he abck door
539: [09:15:59] <veb> omeone ran off
540: [09:16:03] <zippy> damn...
541: [09:16:06] <veb> but the fuckingdoor needs keys to open
542: [09:16:08] <veb> cops came
543: [09:16:12] <veb> five cars
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545: [09:16:19] <veb> at 1pm inthe afternoon
546: [09:16:21] <veb> lol
547: [09:16:31] <zippy> you guys must be a nervious wreck..
548: [09:16:37] <veb> basically handle was half screwed off
549: [09:16:38] <veb> zippy: yes
550: [09:16:43] <veb> thus 96 hours and counting
551: [09:17:39] <veb> ithurts.
552: [09:17:42] <veb> :/
553: [09:18:04] <veb> had no idea hte he human body ciuld be so fucked
554: [09:19:11] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
555: [09:20:34] <veb> like the nerves are fucked
556: [09:20:35] <veb> see .. at tims i'll hear a child crying, thinkits my son in his cot. it's not.
557: [09:24:24] <veb> an then soomeone else tod m
558: [09:24:35] <veb> "i hear a child crying at the school across the rd
559: [09:24:41] <veb> there's no way u can..."
560: [09:25:32] <zippy> sleep in shifts?
561: [09:27:05] <veb> we .. tried
562: [09:27:14] <veb> i simply cannot sleep during day
563: [09:27:27] <veb> being deaf, sense of smell, andofc, light
564: [09:29:03] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: Translations in 3.1.11 - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/PcGki_saaak/dF_Jb-O4BAAJ
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568: [09:44:04] <ss-helper> AW: [silverstripe-dev] Re: Translations in 3.1.11 - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/PcGki_saaak/u-YswSq5BAAJ
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571: [09:51:01] <elgabbu> hi guys ... currently working with SS 3.1.15 ... I have a controller and withing it's init function it may trigger a 404 ... i use this code return $this->httpError(404);
572: [09:51:18] <elgabbu> when i do i simply get a blank page
573: [09:51:58] <elgabbu> looking at the httpError method in request handler ... it trigger 2 hooks .. $this->extend('onBeforeHTTPError' . $errorCode, $this->request); and $this->extend('onBeforeHTTPError', $errorCode, $this->request);
574: [09:53:10] <elgabbu> oh we switched off the OldPageRedirector extension thus the 404s are not being handled :D
575: [09:53:16] <elgabbu> problem solved haaha
576: [09:59:13] <elgabbu> well tbh i still think there is a problem ... since if the onBeforeHTTPError404 hook in OldPageRedirector doesn't find an 'old' page ... the proper 404 page is never output
577: [10:05:32] <wmk> oh time for caneval beginning
578: [10:05:41] * wmk is heading for the first Krapfen of the season
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582: [10:17:22] <ss-helper> raffaele_s: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
583: [10:19:26] <raffaele_s> hi guys!
584: [10:23:31] <raffaele_s> i have an issue.. I'm using Silvrestrip 3.2. I've created an extension to extend SiteConfig that adds some db fields and shows those fields on the "setting" page of the website with "updateCMSFields". Now, this works fine in my local machine, but on the dev website it adds just the db fields, without showing them in the settings
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586: [10:25:05] <kbtjuh> can you do something like: <% if Children = 4 %> ??
587: [10:25:37] <wmk> kbtjuh, $Children.Pos == 4 should do
588: [10:25:45] <wmk> !flush raffaele_s
589: [10:25:45] <ss-helper> raffaele_s: Have you flushed? Try doing a ?flush=all and /dev/build then see if it's sorted. Do it twice for good measure ;-)
590: [10:27:07] <raffaele_s> wmk: yep, i've flushed, but without any luck
591: [10:27:30] <raffaele_s> wmk: the same with dev/build
592: [10:32:46] <Eliseth> I'm having a problem with the CsvBulkLoader
593: [10:32:47] <raffaele_s> ok solved guys: i just had to flush=all while i'm on the /admin/settings page
594: [10:32:57] <raffaele_s> thanks for the help
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596: [10:33:46] <Eliseth> When trying to get a relation (DO or Member) to link to my imported objects it will create loads of duplicates of the related object (both DO's as well as members)
597: [10:38:54] <zippy> Eliseth: tell me more..
598: [10:39:01] <Eliseth> I'm at a complete loss as I don't understand why it would create members when calling Member::get()
599: [10:44:37] <wmk> Eliseth, bulkuploader and relations is kinda pain
600: [10:45:34] <wmk> Eliseth, maybe https://github.com/burnbright/silverstripe-importexport might help?
601: [10:45:51] <Eliseth> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/56431c551889e
602: [10:47:02] <wmk> Eliseth, xdebug on getOwnerByEmail...
603: [10:51:06] <zippy> dump and die in between 18 and 19, does it get hit?
604: [10:51:21] <zippy> wmk: should learn to use xdebug eh.
605: [10:52:09] <wmk> eggs debug?
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607: [11:10:51] <elgabbu> ErrorPageControllerExtension is not being invoked by RequestHandler when triggering onBeforeHTTPError hook
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610: [11:12:48] <Jakx> yo
611: [11:14:07] <Jakx> I have a protected $variable in MyController, when I reload the page, the $variable's value remains. I need it to reset to null. Is this a PHP thing, or a SS thing?
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615: [11:18:13] <zippy> Eliseth: ..
616: [11:18:27] <zippy> Jakx: ...
617: [11:18:40] <Jakx> zippy, am I being dumb? :(
618: [11:18:48] <zippy> maybe..
619: [11:18:55] <zippy> or I am cos im tried
620: [11:18:57] <zippy> tired
621: [11:19:02] <zippy> veb: how you holding up chief
622: [11:19:07] <zippy> Jakx: paste some code...
623: [11:19:08] <zippy> !paste
624: [11:19:08] <ss-helper> Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
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626: [11:23:33] <Jakx> aw
627: [11:23:35] <Jakx> I was too slow
628: [11:23:55] <Jakx> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/564325316209e
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634: [11:39:01] <kinglozzer> Jakx: The protected property will always be reset to null for each request
635: [11:39:13] <kinglozzer> If it's not null, that means something is setting it somewhere
636: [11:40:00] <Jakx> kinglozzer, right. Interesting, becasue if I cache refresh (ctrl+r / ctrl+F5 etc), it comes right.
637: [11:40:22] <Jakx> That's good to know though, I'll try to track down the culprit. tyvm
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639: [11:45:52] <Audlex> can anyone point me in the right direction to add a new file type to the UploadField in 3.2?
640: [11:46:12] <Audlex> File::$allowed_extensions[] = 'dwg'; yeilds me this error: "Cannot access private property File::..."
641: [11:48:52] <Audlex> got it
642: [11:52:15] <veb> zipp....
643: [11:52:17] <veb> aww
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655: [13:25:22] <slievr> is there a particular reason why date picker is not enabled by default?
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657: [13:42:33] <swaiba> slievr to annoy and bemuse?
658: [13:42:50] <swaiba> I'd raise it on https://silverstripe.uservoice.com to express your concerns
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660: [13:50:04] <rytiz2873> Hi! i have problems with ss 3.2 and GridFieldBulkEditingTools .... I can't make gallery list :/ after upload image it's no icon and this is not creating folder _resampled, while everywhere else creating :/ in older ss versions it's working
661: [14:02:57] <Audlex> I had the same issue but realised I didn't really need it.
662: [14:03:02] <Audlex> Let me know if you find a solution
663: [14:11:35] <rytiz2873> i found solution :D resized images to full hd and it's working! to big resolution lol :D 3 hours.....
664: [14:16:13] <rytiz2873> too*
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666: [14:38:33] <slievr> swaiba: I was wondering if there was a reason. I'm used to it by now.
667: [14:39:07] <swaiba> slievr sure, I was being mildy sarcastic, I have no real idea why
668: [14:39:18] <swaiba> also why the time is a text field and not a drop down....
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672: [14:55:19] <Mike132> $member = Member::currentUser()
673: [14:55:25] <Mike132> $member->Email
674: [14:55:37] <Mike132> getting error : trying to get property of non-object
675: [14:55:44] <Mike132> i'm am logged in
676: [14:55:48] <Mike132> for sure
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678: [15:04:18] <swaiba> Mike132 for sure sure? (as in Member::currentUser() works and I'm kinda believing that instead)
679: [15:07:02] <Mike132> oh... swaiba, i worked today for 14 hours and i can't actually see my monitor :D my $member was in if() statement
680: [15:07:06] <Mike132> my fault
681: [15:07:49] <Mike132> so it returned 1 or 0
682: [15:07:53] <Mike132> not an object :0
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693: [16:42:03] <darjusIT> Hi, is posible to add like menu checkbox in page > settigns > Visibility section similar "Show in menus?" would be "show in header menu"
694: [16:45:03] <swaiba> darjusIT I don't think so, it sound like you need a custom menu manager module
695: [16:45:14] <muskie9> darjusIT try 'Root.Settings' instead of 'Root.Main' when you ad the field
696: [16:45:20] <swaiba> (of which I know there are some, but we have an internal stuff)
697: [16:45:31] <muskie9> it won't handle the logic on the frontend, you'd have to build that out
698: [16:46:01] <muskie9> darjusIT https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager
699: [16:46:16] <swaiba> what muskie9 said, I jumped to the idea youd need that too :)
700: [16:49:34] <darjusIT> its works with fluent?
701: [16:50:29] <swaiba> darjusIT dunno (obviously) is there any issues (open or closed) relating to it?
702: [16:50:40] <swaiba> and if not give it a go and raise one if required?
703: [16:51:31] <darjusIT> ok thx :)
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717: [18:31:21] <saysora> If I have a page generating children via a view function.
718: [18:31:33] <saysora> I'm writing a form that I'd like to sit on those dataobject child pages.
719: [18:31:54] <saysora> Is there a way to grab a field of the child into the controller of the parent?
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721: [18:35:35] <saysora> I'm just not sure how to access it when using $request.
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729: [19:25:18] <nuxil> hi
730: [19:26:14] <nuxil> so i took the simple theme that comes with ss. copyed it and renamed it. activated it in the cms. and its not showing the same theme. why is this ??
731: [19:27:03] <cloph_away> what do you mean with "not showing the same theme" - and did you remember to flush?
732: [19:27:22] <nuxil> oh. i need to flush each time i change the theme ?
733: [19:27:59] <cloph_away> when you add or remove files at least.
734: [19:29:27] <nuxil> um, ?flush didnt do anything
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736: [19:30:00] <nuxil> i mean it did do something. but had no effect on the theme
737: [19:30:34] <nuxil> so why is it not showing the same theme for both. theme "B" is just a copy of theme "A".
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739: [19:31:16] <nuxil> do i need to use /dev/build/?flush ?
740: [19:31:23] <darjusIT> is it better to use git in console or like netbeans or IDE with nice gui?
741: [19:31:35] <nuxil> notepad++ :p
742: [19:31:41] <darjusIT> :D
743: [19:32:28] <cloph_away> you need to understand git on console to make proper use of gui tools - but apart from that it doesn't matter...
744: [19:33:02] <cloph_away> again the question remains: what do you mean exactly with "not showing the same theme for both"
745: [19:33:16] <cloph_away> and no, no need to do a build, flush alone should be enough.
746: [19:37:33] <helenclarko> nuxil: +1 to Notepad++
747: [19:37:53] <helenclarko> Just updated to PHPStorm though...
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749: [19:50:15] <helenclarko> zippy: o/
750: [19:50:21] <zippy> morning
751: [19:50:30] <zippy> helenclarko: hows phpstorm treating you?
752: [19:50:44] <zippy> veb: survive the nite?
753: [19:50:58] <helenclarko> zippy: love it!
754: [19:51:15] <helenclarko> Still getting my head around using it.
755: [19:51:23] <zippy> keep a sticky with 2-3 of those shortcuts and keep on top of them.
756: [19:51:42] <helenclarko> Like I guess it doesnt like working from remote network locations.
757: [19:52:00] <zippy> if you map the network drive then it will be fine
758: [19:52:19] <zippy> when you first open a directory, it indexes all the files so there is that to take into account - it will be slow for a bit until that is done
759: [19:52:25] <helenclarko> zippy: Done, but it has trouble syncing
760: [19:52:41] <zippy> any reason can't git checkout locally?
761: [19:52:49] <helenclarko> that and it wont find where variables have been created.
762: [19:53:18] <helenclarko> zippy: Maybe I didnt give it enough time.
763: [19:54:10] <helenclarko> Worked fine on any local projects.
764: [19:55:48] <zippy> nice being able to right click in a file and see the history - you can jump into the command line as normal sure, but having it all in one place is quite nice, pulling back in pieces
765: [19:59:42] <helenclarko> I just love being able to go to declaration, so handy!
766: [19:59:42] <veb> zippy sort of
767: [20:00:16] <zippy> helenclarko: did you look at those tips on twitter... there is quite a few ways of moving around files.
768: [20:00:50] <helenclarko> Yeah, I have the page bookmarked. Haven't gone through them all yet.
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771: [20:06:01] <helenclarko> oh god, Navigate to class!
772: [20:06:58] <helenclarko> PHPStorm, where have you been my whole life.
773: [20:08:15] <adrexia> :D
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776: [20:10:02] <r3v3rb> hi, whats the server requirement/setup for a multisite install?
777: [20:10:22] <r3v3rb> is it just a case of having the extra hosts aliased properly?
778: [20:12:13] <zippy> helenclarko: the good think is it still feels decently quick for an IDE, as apposed to netbeans / Eclipse etc
779: [20:12:23] <zippy> I haven't tried any of those in the past 3~ years though
780: [20:16:54] <helenclarko> I was a Notepad++ fanboy. Just liked the oldschool do it yourself feel. But I've always disliked the navigation, opening multiple files trying to locate where things have been created.
781: [20:19:23] <zippy> didn't sublime overtake notepad++ there..
782: [20:20:44] <helenclarko> zippy: Yeah, I never jumped onboard that train. It looked good, but Notepad++ was still my favourite.
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785: [20:31:13] <helenclarko> Rain Much... Sooo dark outside.
786: [20:31:43] <r3v3rb> micmania1 evening love your address router.silverstripe.com :)
787: [20:31:55] <micmania1> :)
788: [20:32:02] <r3v3rb> missing the UK yet?
789: [20:32:09] <micmania1> definitely not.
790: [20:32:11] <micmania1> anything but haha
791: [20:32:28] <micmania1> I’ve already been back once though. I came back in April for 3 weeks
792: [20:32:33] <r3v3rb> not even the grey grey skies of autumn
793: [20:32:47] <micmania1> We’ve got plenty of grey skies here atm
794: [20:32:53] <r3v3rb> :/
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796: [20:33:08] <vitaly> here in Auckland?
797: [20:33:15] <micmania1> Wellington
798: [20:33:22] <micmania1> Auckland is always sunny right?
799: [20:33:30] <helenclarko> DanaeNZ: o/
800: [20:33:34] <vitaly> not sure, i'm in Napier :)
801: [20:33:46] <vitaly> Though yesterday Auckland wasn't sunny at al
802: [20:33:47] <vitaly> l
803: [20:33:54] <r3v3rb> micmania1 btw, finding lumberjack very temperamental
804: [20:34:09] <micmania1> r3v3rb: why?
805: [20:34:26] <r3v3rb> pages, not appearing in draft site even though published
806: [20:34:48] <r3v3rb> parent pages losing children until re-published
807: [20:35:13] <r3v3rb> I've had to ditch it, I wonder if it is 'Translatable' causing issues though
808: [20:35:17] <micmania1> r3v3rb: make sure you update to the latest version of lumberjack. We just fixed a bug where ParentID was being put in 2 tables.
809: [20:35:32] <micmania1> so that might have been messing up some queries.
810: [20:35:34] <r3v3rb> micmania1 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
811: [20:35:59] <r3v3rb> will it have fux0r3d the db though?
812: [20:37:05] <micmania1> Not really sure. It might have put the ParentID in the wrong table but I don’t think that should cause too many issues.
813: [20:37:15] <micmania1> like, its not going to give it some random parent.
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815: [20:37:49] <micmania1> If you moved a page around then it might get confused.
816: [20:37:55] <r3v3rb> add in translatable then... as well :/ I think as the site has just gone live I'lll leave alone for now
817: [20:38:06] <r3v3rb> I'll*
818: [20:38:25] <micmania1> r3v3rb: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-lumberjack/commit/be379a6c17632f424f49095fb901b083224f5a9d
819: [20:38:27] <micmania1> that’s the fix
820: [20:40:31] <r3v3rb> ok, I might retest on the dev server before commiting again :)
821: [20:42:01] <r3v3rb> it could still do with being sortable in the CMS via either gridfield extension :D
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827: [21:20:04] <vitaly> what would be the easiest way to have multiple menus with different items and different titles?
828: [21:21:52] <DanaeNZ> vitaly: i use menu manager
829: [21:21:56] <DanaeNZ> i
830: [21:22:01] <DanaeNZ> ll grabn link 1 sec
831: [21:22:08] <vitaly> thanks, found it :)
832: [21:22:19] <DanaeNZ> cool
833: [21:22:26] <DanaeNZ> also morning all \o
834: [21:22:33] <vitaly> Morning o/
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837: [21:48:06] <zippy> whats the good nz domain registrar?
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840: [21:55:33] <helenclarko> zippy: https://www.crazydomains.co.nz/domain-names/search/?domain=happyzippy&tld=.co.nz
841: [21:55:37] <helenclarko> zippy: https://www.domains4less.co.nz
842: [21:55:45] <zippy> yea I use crazy domains.. but just not sure about them
843: [21:55:56] <zippy> there was one here in here people really recommended
844: [21:56:49] <xyphoid> crazydomains support is the worst
845: [21:56:55] <xyphoid> warning warning stay away
846: [21:57:11] <zippy> adrexia: what was that domain place you recommeded (I think)
847: [21:57:25] <adrexia> digital ocean?
848: [21:57:34] <xyphoid> i'm still prety happy with discountdomains
849: [21:57:37] <adrexia> oh!
850: [21:57:42] <adrexia> iwantmyname
851: [21:57:49] <adrexia> iwantmyname are pretty cool
852: [21:58:11] <xyphoid> a customer of ours decided that crazydomains was a good place to transfer 60 domains to and like 30 of them just got lost in their systems
853: [21:58:39] <adrexia> I've only ever used iwantmyname.
854: [21:59:05] <adrexia> they sponsor a bunch of Wellington meetups, and are generally really good for the tech community here :)
855: [21:59:42] <adrexia> if they hadn't though... their website fails my ascetics test ;)
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857: [22:02:06] <zippy> ah yeap that was the one!
858: [22:02:07] <vitaly> DanaeNZ: Is there multilevel support in this menu manager?
859: [22:03:35] <DanaeNZ> vitaly: i don't think so
860: [22:03:46] <DanaeNZ> vitaly: more like you loop the Children of the menu items
861: [22:04:47] <vitaly> DanaeNZ: Thanks :) just got an idea to use regular menu for main menu and this add-on for other menus. Should do the trick.
862: [22:05:25] <DanaeNZ> vitaly: nice
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867: [22:52:02] <zippy> mmm love me some <center> tags
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869: [22:52:40] <zippy> Colin[pi]: o/
870: [22:52:46] <Colin[pi]> howdy doody o/
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874: [23:03:05] <Colin[pi]> I didn't have coffee yet! WAT
875: [23:03:13] <Colin[pi]> how could I forget that?
876: [23:04:11] <helenclarko> Colin[pi]: Are you okay?
877: [23:04:38] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
878: [23:18:30] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: I have ☕ now, so yes, yes I am
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881: [23:30:48] <Colin[pi]> looks like one of my media hdds died during the move
882: [23:30:56] <Colin[pi]> no prizes for guessing which brand it was...
883: [23:34:27] * zippy quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
884: [23:41:34] <MichalKleiner> WD?
885: [23:41:41] <Colin[pi]> MichalKleiner: Seagate :P
886: [23:41:55] <MichalKleiner> that would be second guess :-D
887: [23:42:03] <Colin[pi]> seagate is always the first guess
888: [23:42:05] <Colin[pi]> always
889: [23:42:18] <Colin[pi]> I've had like 6 HDDs fail in as many years, all seagate :(
890: [23:45:25] <Colin[pi]> where the heck has the warm weather gone?
891: [23:45:31] <Colin[pi]> someone turn up the heat
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893: [23:53:09] <MichalKleiner> just found http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200B/index.htm
894: [23:53:24] <MichalKleiner> good for long words with e.g. slashes in them to break nicely
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897: [23:57:47] <Jakx> yo
898: [23:59:53] <MichalKleiner> ya

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