#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 30 October 2015

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1: [00:01:19] <zippy> helenclarko: one page addons?
2: [00:01:32] <helenclarko> or single page addons.
3: [00:01:44] <zippy> helenclarko: I use I use https://github.com/Little-Giant/silverstripe-catalogmanager if that is what you mean
4: [00:01:45] <helenclarko> Just dump everything on a single page.
5: [00:02:14] <zippy> sorry still not getting it
6: [00:02:22] <helenclarko> zippy: This https://github.com/wernerkrauss/silverstripe-onepage
7: [00:02:26] <zippy> you mean it takes a bunch of "pages" in the CMS site tree and makes them into one
8: [00:02:33] <helenclarko> Looks good, but isn't complete.
9: [00:09:23] * antmas beeps
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11: [00:19:42] <antmas> who thought it was a good idea to put peas in mince pies?
12: [00:20:13] <DanaeNZ> wat
13: [00:21:38] <zippy> farmstyle
14: [00:21:57] <antmas> hatestyle
15: [00:22:02] <antmas> little green balls of hate
16: [00:22:11] <DanaeNZ> fuck peas
17: [00:23:48] * spronk quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
18: [00:24:57] <antmas> http://i.imgur.com/3pi1HF7.gifv
19: [00:25:45] <Colin[pi]> antmas: dats cheatin\
20: [00:25:51] <antmas> :D
21: [00:26:06] <antmas> it is really
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25: [00:51:06] <helenclarko> how the hell do you remove pages in 3.2
26: [00:52:41] <helenclarko> Do I have to Archive it?
27: [00:54:12] <helenclarko> Yup, you Archive it.
28: [00:54:33] <spronk> what does everyone use as an ssh client on windows these days?
29: [00:54:41] <helenclarko> putty
30: [00:54:59] <spronk> sicko
31: [00:56:09] <helenclarko> spronk... But!
32: [00:56:15] <helenclarko> Putty.
33: [00:56:39] <spronk> but putty is nasty... especially the ui
34: [00:56:50] <spronk> and isn't there like.. no actual official download place for it now?
35: [00:58:30] <helenclarko> spronk same place
36: [00:58:39] <helenclarko> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
37: [00:58:44] <spronk> pretty sure that page was abandoned
38: [00:59:14] <spronk> oh, maybe not
39: [00:59:49] <spronk> https://noncombatant.org/2014/03/03/downloading-software-safely-is-nearly-impossible/
40: [01:00:00] <helenclarko> I've only ever used putty on windows. I'm not ready to let it go.
41: [01:00:04] <helenclarko> DONT MAKE ME!
42: [01:00:16] * spronk is using xshell atm, but it doesn't handle all keys perfectly
43: [01:00:19] <spronk> it's a shitton better than putty :p
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45: [01:01:01] <ss-helper> puddle: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
46: [01:01:23] <zippy> ss-helper: your awesome
47: [01:02:06] <puddle> hi im pretty new to ss and id like to ask if userforms is able to add repeatable form fields because thats the only thing imm issing from it, i realise its a module but maybe someone knows the answer
48: [01:04:26] <helenclarko> spronk: YOU TAKE THAT BACK, what did putty ever do to you!
49: [01:04:39] <spronk> not work with keys
50: [01:04:52] <helenclarko> okay... thats fair
51: [01:05:16] <helenclarko> but all those other times, it invited you in with open arms.
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55: [01:07:59] <antmas> I use putty for like 1 thing
56: [01:08:00] * Motoservo quit (Client Quit)
57: [01:08:08] <antmas> touch in ruby :P
58: [01:08:25] <helenclarko> I'm using putty now for composer
59: [01:12:08] <antmas> is there a way to configure it so it doesn't use dark blue to highlight some lines?
60: [01:12:14] <antmas> why the fuck would they do that?
61: [01:13:37] <helenclarko> antmas: Magic!
62: [01:17:11] <antmas> does anyone here have a mobile hotspot device?
63: [01:17:51] <DanaeNZ> antmas: I do but you're a bit far away
64: [01:20:19] <Zauberfisch> has anyone tried running HTMLEditorField in an ssdialog?
65: [01:20:41] <antmas> DanaeNZ: like an actual dedicated device for it though?
66: [01:20:50] <DanaeNZ> antmas: naw
67: [01:21:48] <ss23> Why would you ever want to use a dedicated device for it?
68: [01:21:54] <ss23> Costs more than just getting a plan for it on your tablet/phone
69: [01:21:58] <antmas> ss23: that's what I want to know
70: [01:22:19] <antmas> we have 2 of them here and I was just playing with one
71: [01:22:31] <antmas> sitting here thinking 'why are these things?'
72: [01:22:42] <Zauberfisch> well, I know some people that have such a device as a home internet
73: [01:23:07] <antmas> I get that, but why not use a phone for that?
74: [01:23:14] <antmas> as in use it as a hotspot?
75: [01:24:11] <antmas> we have a couple of these http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-broadband/mobile-wifi/features/e5786s-32a-en.htm
76: [01:24:28] <zippy> antmas: some of them you can plug in aerials/anetna for better reception
77: [01:25:15] <antmas> zippy: Zauberfisch mm so really, their primary use is for connectivity when you don't have access to secure wifi?
78: [01:25:44] <ss23> We used to have one when our flat had no internet
79: [01:26:10] <Zauberfisch> what I mean was that I know people that have a 4g+wifi device as an alternative to wired internet uplink
80: [01:26:21] <puddle> is there a way to add repeatable fields to userforms or I should code that myself?
81: [01:26:28] <Zauberfisch> because they want "dedicated" internet at home, but for some reason can not have it wired
82: [01:29:21] <puddle> okay im guessing this question must be a stupid one or has no answer
83: [01:30:05] <jules0x> ugh whats the template code for $thispagesURL So i can craft a link that has a param
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85: [01:30:47] <antmas> puddle: what do you mean by repeatable fields exactly?
86: [01:31:18] <puddle> lets say you have an input field for a certain information but you want the user to be able to add more of that kind of input information if need be
87: [01:32:19] <puddle> like name of members in group... name 1, name 2 etc.
88: [01:32:40] <puddle> so if he has 2 members he can add one more if he has 5 members he can add 5
89: [01:32:49] <antmas> I think you can do that with rules/conditions can't you?
90: [01:33:11] <antmas> like you can have 5 fields for name 1, name 2, name 3 but only show 2,3,4,5 under conditions
91: [01:33:22] <antmas> so finite amount, but achieves a similar thing
92: [01:33:56] <puddle> problem is i need infinite amount :s
93: [01:34:05] <puddle> but
94: [01:34:12] <puddle> thank you for the help either way
95: [01:34:16] <antmas> :D
96: [01:34:18] <antmas> np
97: [01:34:18] <jules0x> $AbsoluteLink
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99: [01:35:10] <puddle> problem is i just realised i would need repeatable groups aswell and thats a no go even with rules
100: [01:35:15] <antmas> puddle: you're thinking of like 'Enter Name 1' then 'add more' which then opens another 'Enter Name 2' and so on yeah?
101: [01:35:23] <puddle> yeah exactly
102: [01:35:50] <antmas> hmmm
103: [01:36:26] <antmas> outside of looping over fields made with js, I can't think of anything that userforms would already have for that
104: [01:36:40] <puddle> that is what i was afraid of
105: [01:36:50] <antmas> Stomach: you know of anything like that? ^^^
106: [01:36:58] <Stomach> like what
107: [01:37:07] <Stomach> use display logic
108: [01:37:41] <antmas> dynamic fields basically
109: [01:37:52] <antmas> 'click to add another fieldx' etc
110: [01:37:53] <puddle> display logic expects that i have a predefined max amount of fields
111: [01:38:10] <puddle> and it doesnt work for groups of fields
112: [01:40:50] <zippy> time for some vue.js
113: [01:41:57] <puddle> anyways thanks for the help
114: [01:42:26] <Zauberfisch> damn you tinyMCE
115: [01:43:21] <puddle> gnite everyone
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117: [01:43:26] <helenclarko> Any idea how I can access a subsite from an ip address? I'm sure I have done this before. I've tried adding it to the hosts file and using /subsite-metadata-url?SubsiteID=1
118: [01:52:39] <spronk> it should just wrk if you use hosts file?
119: [01:52:48] <spronk> as long as your webserv is cnfd ok
120: [01:53:36] <helenclarko> yea, it just sends me to the main site, not the subsite.
121: [01:53:55] <helenclarko> Guess I need to check the server settings.
122: [01:54:56] * spronk quit (Quit: bleep bleep bloop bloop)
123: [01:57:33] <antmas> guis
124: [01:57:41] <antmas> friday focus is hard :|
125: [01:59:47] <DanaeNZ> I'm pretty focused today
126: [01:59:58] <DanaeNZ> I'm rebuilding my heavy metal playlist on spotify
127: [02:02:11] <helenclarko> DanaeNZ: lol, work.
128: [02:08:27] <antmas> DanaeNZ: :O
129: [02:08:35] <antmas> DanaeNZ: what bandsies?
130: [02:08:55] <antmas> DanaeNZ: also, 'heavy' metal? are you like, 50?
131: [02:09:00] <antmas> <3
132: [02:09:21] <DanaeNZ> antmas: what do the kids call it these days
133: [02:09:27] <antmas> metal :P
134: [02:09:27] <DanaeNZ> I'm listening to mudvayne rn
135: [02:09:42] <antmas> DanaeNZ: link to playlist?
136: [02:11:02] <antmas> oh my god this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HEBEQhwG-rU
137: [02:13:04] <helenclarko> AWESOME!
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139: [02:15:33] <helenclarko> still cant beat this game. https://youtu.be/r579P6AULWY?t=228
140: [02:16:46] <spronk> i am so fucking sick of these fucking fritzboxes. Or OS X. One of the two
141: [02:17:35] <DanaeNZ> antmas: https://open.spotify.com/user/zomxilla/playlist/5zXsGtJc2tIv1Bxt5pRfKY
142: [02:17:41] <antmas> helenclarko: ROFL
143: [02:17:45] <DanaeNZ> it's not exactly complete
144: [02:17:59] <Colin[pi]> antmas: woah just when I thought every game idea had been done
145: [02:19:11] <helenclarko> antmas: that line "oh, alright alright, I'm like a chocolate factory"
146: [02:19:12] <antmas> DanaeNZ: naht bahd
147: [02:19:35] <DanaeNZ> :D
148: [02:20:29] <antmas> helenclarko: yup I audibly laughed and had to quickly drop the window lol
149: [02:23:10] <helenclarko> antmas: I had tears. Just the little throw away lines "did I just squeeze you out", "omg how many of these chocolate bunnys can I let out"
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151: [02:24:07] <Hailwood> Hey folks, Is the "Add page" screen supposed to look like this in SS 3.2? http://i.imgur.com/VgGvjI1.png
152: [02:24:27] <Zauberfisch> spronk: the mac is easy to solve, just throw it out and get a proper os/pc
153: [02:24:34] <spronk> haha
154: [02:24:35] <spronk> what
155: [02:24:36] <spronk> like windows 10?
156: [02:24:39] <antmas> helenclarko: lol yeah he gets a lot of hate but pewds can still be pretty funy
157: [02:24:41] <spronk> what an absolute piece of shit that is :P
158: [02:24:52] <Zauberfisch> spronk: for example linux mint :P
159: [02:24:57] <helenclarko> Hailwood, nope.
160: [02:24:59] <spronk> lame
161: [02:25:04] <antmas> spronk: pffft, still better than OSX
162: [02:25:05] <Zauberfisch> no U
163: [02:25:05] <spronk> linux mint makes my battery go bang
164: [02:25:11] <antmas> win10 is the b'niss
165: [02:25:16] <spronk> win10 is abysma
166: [02:25:16] <spronk> l
167: [02:25:22] <antmas> why?
168: [02:25:25] <spronk> i can't believe people think it's good
169: [02:25:26] <helenclarko> antmas: I think he can sound pretty fake when he doesnt actually enjoy the game.
170: [02:25:30] <spronk> it's worse than win7 in almost every measurable way
171: [02:25:40] <spronk> its only redeeming quality is that it's better than windows 8
172: [02:26:00] <DanaeNZ> spronk: I only recommend 10 if the person has 8
173: [02:26:07] <antmas> every iteration of OSX has been worse since SL
174: [02:26:09] <spronk> pretty much
175: [02:26:20] <spronk> antmas perhaps
176: [02:26:33] <Zauberfisch> spronk: though I suspect it's both, osx and thr frizbox
177: [02:26:36] * antmas twirls moustache ends
178: [02:26:39] <antmas> perhaps
179: [02:26:54] <spronk> Zauberfisch over time my wifi just... stops working properly
180: [02:26:57] * DanaeNZ peers suspiciously at antmas
181: [02:26:59] <spronk> normal ping is ~1.1-1.3ms
182: [02:27:01] <Zauberfisch> spronk: do ypu happen to have a proper router/managed switch?
183: [02:27:02] <DanaeNZ> do you reeeaaally have a moustache?
184: [02:27:09] <antmas> DanaeNZ: <.<
185: [02:27:13] <antmas> DanaeNZ: >.>
186: [02:27:24] <spronk> then eventually it'll go wack, around 3-4ms, with ~20ms spikes every few seconds
187: [02:27:25] <antmas> I have hair on my lip if that counts lol
188: [02:27:26] <spronk> Zauberfisch nope
189: [02:27:29] <Zauberfisch> that's what I normaly do, just use the router of the internet provider as plan router and connect a proper router behind it
190: [02:27:41] <spronk> see thats just the thing
191: [02:27:47] <spronk> the fritzbox is meant to be a cut above a normal ISP router
192: [02:27:53] <Zauberfisch> or even use that DMZ thing, to let my router do even the firewall
193: [02:28:03] <spronk> i think i might tell 2degrees to have the fucking thing back, give me the basic model, and i'll get a wrt1900ac or something
194: [02:28:04] <antmas> spronk: I suspect it's a problem in the meat layer
195: [02:28:15] <spronk> it's the second one
196: [02:28:15] <antmas> :D
197: [02:28:19] <spronk> first one had serious 5ghz issues
198: [02:28:34] <spronk> basically nothing worked if 5ghz wifi was enabled, including 2.4ghz wifi.
199: [02:28:38] <spronk> 2.4ghz worked smoothly as soon as turned 5ghz off
200: [02:28:56] <spronk> interestingly a few people on whirlpool.net.au forums seem to allude to similar issues
201: [02:29:09] <Hailwood> helenclarko, any ideas what would cause it?
202: [02:29:45] <antmas> woah whirlpool
203: [02:29:55] <helenclarko> Hailwood: http://i.imgur.com/TQMX69E.png
204: [02:30:14] <helenclarko> Hailwood: Dunno, ?flush=1
205: [02:30:54] <antmas> DanaeNZ: you heard of a band called 'Nero di Marte'?
206: [02:30:57] <helenclarko> spronk: did you have it replaced?
207: [02:31:03] <spronk> yep
208: [02:31:08] <spronk> new one semeed to work fine
209: [02:31:10] <spronk> for a few weeks
210: [02:31:11] <helenclarko> Same thing?
211: [02:31:15] <spronk> now its starting to play up
212: [02:31:35] <helenclarko> weird.
213: [02:31:37] <Zauberfisch> yes!
214: [02:31:39] <spronk> mm
215: [02:31:53] <antmas> DanaeNZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB5Wfl3OkOE&list=PLTm7Ka8E-0md9tEfOwKw_KHixH06E_AUY&feature=player_detailpage
216: [02:31:55] <antmas> woah link
217: [02:32:02] <Zauberfisch> I am a fucking genius. but I still hate this damn HtmlEditorField
218: [02:32:30] <DanaeNZ> antmas: oooh
219: [02:32:46] <DanaeNZ> Italian metal
220: [02:33:10] <antmas> yeah pretty neat
221: [02:33:14] <antmas> although most songs are in english
222: [02:36:13] <antmas> haven't seen UC on here in ages ss23
223: [02:36:22] <Hailwood> helenclarko, any chance you could open the dev tools, inspect one of the li's and send me a screenshot? I want to check applied classes etc
224: [02:36:50] <Hailwood> antmas, I've been catching him on twitter
225: [02:37:11] <antmas> Hailwood: twitter, what's your handle?
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227: [02:37:43] <zippy> ss23: is he still alive..?
228: [02:38:07] <Hailwood> antmas, @HailwoodNZ
229: [02:38:31] <helenclarko> Ska-p, Ska band from Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljgk7dT-u-U
230: [02:38:39] <antmas> Hailwood: followed :D
231: [02:39:04] <zippy> antmas: he's in Japan
232: [02:39:14] <antmas> helenclarko: lol ska :D
233: [02:39:25] <antmas> makes me want to play Tony Hawk's Pro Skater again
234: [02:39:29] <ss23> Um
235: [02:39:36] <ss23> UC is in America or Japan at the moment
236: [02:39:47] <ss23> afaik he's alive though
237: [02:39:57] <DanaeNZ> ss23: probably
238: [02:40:21] <helenclarko> Hailwood: http://i.imgur.com/zuM5WW7.png
239: [02:40:35] <antmas> helenclarko: DanaeNZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I83Xp7itj8c funk metal
240: [02:40:43] <helenclarko> antmas: I never left that phase.
241: [02:41:01] <antmas> helenclarko: did you keep your pair of 26 Reds?
242: [02:41:19] <DanaeNZ> antmas: heard of skindred?
243: [02:41:30] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
244: [02:41:31] <antmas> DanaeNZ: lol yes
245: [02:41:35] <antmas> rastametal?
246: [02:41:36] <DanaeNZ> antmas: woah this music confuses me
247: [02:41:39] <DanaeNZ> hell yeh
248: [02:42:42] <DanaeNZ> omg the music video tho
249: [02:43:38] <antmas> DanaeNZ: also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ST85Sui43Q
250: [02:43:42] <antmas> same band, crazy song
251: [02:43:51] <Hailwood> helenclarko, Ohh, my issue is actually caused my unclecheese! Display logic 1.3 broke it ha!
252: [02:44:11] <antmas> swing metal lol
253: [02:44:51] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: RFC: Adding ReactJS to SilverStripe CMS - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/WcjutNP-raQ/5yvcmsLzAAAJ
254: [02:44:55] <DanaeNZ> antmas: hahaha
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256: [02:46:27] <helenclarko> antmas, wow I had to think a bit... 26red. They really dont exist at all now.
257: [02:46:51] <antmas> helenclarko: lol yeah I just found searching for them is next to impossible
258: [02:46:51] <DanaeNZ> hahaha that video went full beerfest
259: [02:46:55] <helenclarko> like gone without a trace.
260: [02:47:08] <antmas> helenclarko: it's like something really dodgy happened heh
261: [02:47:18] <antmas> they were pretty popular
262: [02:47:32] <antmas> like Fubu LOL
263: [02:47:45] <helenclarko> antmas: Someone doesnt want it to be found.
264: [02:47:47] <antmas> some other brand that started with 'D'
265: [02:48:21] <antmas> are Dickies still a thing?
266: [02:48:42] <helenclarko> But these things were around before the internet was really a big thing. Before the "What goes online stays online"
267: [02:49:01] <antmas> mm true
268: [02:49:20] <helenclarko> "Big Thing", Internet has always been a big thing!
269: [02:49:21] <antmas> that was back when I had Globe skate shoes that were bigger than my head
270: [02:49:47] <helenclarko> Wish I could take a picture of my shoes... Globes!
271: [02:49:57] <antmas> haha
272: [02:50:16] <antmas> those early 2000s
273: [02:50:22] <antmas> mega cringe
274: [02:50:40] <helenclarko> Never grew out of that punk and skate shoes phase.
275: [02:50:44] <antmas> I think I even had my eyebrow pierced around then
276: [02:50:53] <zippy> wot!
277: [02:51:16] <antmas> I did have smaller spaces in my ears about 5 years ago
278: [02:51:32] <helenclarko> haha, I tried a lip ring, but sounded like an arse.
279: [02:51:51] <antmas> after taking them out, they healed and left tiny little nano vajinas in their place lol
280: [02:52:02] <helenclarko> Nice!
281: [02:52:26] <antmas> vaginas
282: [02:52:29] <antmas> it is a G
283: [02:52:33] <antmas> carry on
284: [02:53:18] <helenclarko> antmas: was more worried about my teeth with a lip ring than I was about my apperance with Globe shoes and trucker caps.
285: [02:54:35] <antmas> true that
286: [02:54:37] <antmas> also
287: [02:54:42] <antmas> cd carry cases
288: [02:54:49] <antmas> SO NOSTALGIC
289: [02:55:27] <antmas> when you spent 6 hours pirating A Perfect Circle album and slipping it into a carry case for your nissann pulsar
290: [02:55:36] <Colin[pi]> antmas: did you ever use a cd rom drive with a caddy?
291: [02:55:38] <zippy> I wonder what if the cms was just a bunch of apis, which returned json and then you could just build out the front end on top, somewhat independant....
292: [02:55:39] <Colin[pi]> A CADDY
293: [02:55:46] <antmas> Colin[pi]: WTF
294: [02:55:49] <helenclarko> antmas: Them feels
295: [02:55:50] <antmas> LINK NAO
296: [02:55:50] <zippy> ie, get list of pages, get list of fields for page, get settings for page
297: [02:56:11] <Colin[pi]> antmas: http://myoldmac.net/Sellpicts/Apple-CDdrive-300.jpg
298: [02:56:24] <Colin[pi]> so you'd have to insert the disc into the caddy, then insert into the drive
299: [02:56:24] <antmas> zippy: that was like the first testament of SS before they hit the go live button
300: [02:56:40] <zippy> hm?
301: [02:56:44] <antmas> then the mary magdalen of entwine happened and here we are lol
302: [02:57:13] <antmas> Colin[pi]: OMG
303: [02:57:15] <antmas> amazing
304: [02:57:48] <Colin[pi]> antmas: we had one of the first cd burners at uni, looked similar, but more like a shoebox
305: [02:57:50] <Colin[pi]> cost like $2000
306: [02:58:02] <antmas> lol yeah I remember those
307: [02:58:15] <helenclarko> Colin[pi]: ITS BEAUTIFUL! Like an extra step before using a CD. It's like let apple hold your hand so you dont FUCK UP YOUR CD"S!!!
308: [02:58:31] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: yeah I kinda miss the "ka-CHUNK" sound
309: [02:58:34] <antmas> back when the sound of HDD activity sounded like a fat old man doing a wheazy laugh
310: [02:58:34] <Colin[pi]> felt solid
311: [03:00:10] <helenclarko> antmas: Steve Wozniak - I Made this myself, It sounds like me.
312: [03:00:20] <antmas> my parents found a bag of 'hair rings' in the roof not long ago, apparently I used to use them help spike my hair up when I was like 12
313: [03:00:22] <antmas> LOL
314: [03:00:30] <antmas> helenclarko: ROFL
315: [03:01:08] <helenclarko> Lol my brother used chapstick when in highschool.
316: [03:01:19] <antmas> hahaha
317: [03:03:01] <antmas> I knew a couple of dudes that would gluestick their school socks up on their legs
318: [03:04:13] <helenclarko> antmas: Never tried that.
319: [03:04:40] <helenclarko> Sounds like a solution to a sock problem
320: [03:04:59] <helenclarko> New socks may have also solved that issue.
321: [03:05:18] <helenclarko> Cant say for sure though.
322: [03:05:49] <zippy> the php case statement always feels so bloated
323: [03:05:57] <zippy> or "switch" i mean
324: [03:06:18] <antmas> zippy: it does in .net too
325: [03:06:22] <antmas> I hate writing them
326: [03:06:25] <antmas> c#*
327: [03:06:28] <zippy> yea but thats microsoft
328: [03:06:50] <antmas> >php
329: [03:07:01] <Colin[pi]> yeah switch statements look ugly
330: [03:07:50] <zippy> if wonder, if you return you don't need to use breaks
331: [03:08:21] <antmas> can you do jumps in php switches?
332: [03:08:39] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yes, it's good exercise actually
333: [03:08:44] <Colin[pi]> I like doing star jumps
334: [03:08:59] <antmas> like 'goto's
335: [03:09:43] <antmas> although I guess breaks are 'goto's if done correctly
336: [03:10:29] <antmas> I use them a lot for insert/update/edit statments in asp gridviews
337: [03:10:41] <antmas> works pretty well but fills out so much code space
338: [03:13:46] <antmas> right, beersies time
339: [03:13:51] <antmas> have a good weekend all o/
340: [03:14:52] <zippy> antmas: :)
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345: [03:39:23] <helenclarko> hmm, Userforms is fucked on SS 3.2
346: [03:39:47] <helenclarko> Unless I have grabbed the wrong thing with composer
347: [03:40:03] <ss23> Most modules don't work in 3.2 yet afaik
348: [03:40:10] <camfindlay> What version helenclarko ?
349: [03:40:26] <helenclarko> camfindlay: one moment
350: [03:40:32] <helenclarko> I get $groupEnd is undefined
351: [03:41:42] <camfindlay> cant say I’ve hit that problem... yet
352: [03:42:00] <helenclarko> camfindlay: It'll be master, I just composer require silverstripe/userforms
353: [03:42:35] <camfindlay> yeah… don’t be doin that
354: [03:42:41] <camfindlay> we’re running ^3.0
355: [03:42:44] <camfindlay> on 3.2
356: [03:42:46] <camfindlay> core
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358: [03:42:53] <camfindlay> seems so far to be ok
359: [03:43:16] <helenclarko> but but... Instructions!!
360: [03:43:28] <helenclarko> I guess they arent up to date for 3.2 yet
361: [03:43:45] <camfindlay> make a pull request
362: [03:43:48] <helenclarko> Okay, ill update
363: [03:44:19] <camfindlay> ideally never use master unless the maintainer hasn’t tagged
364: [03:44:40] <camfindlay> and even then I require only tested SHA1s
365: [03:45:18] <camfindlay> so you can do “maintainer/module”: “dev-master#798asd987as987af987asd987asd” to lock to a sha1
366: [03:45:21] <helenclarko> camfindlay: Still not up with composer yet and first 3.2 project.
367: [03:45:42] <helenclarko> ooooooh, neat!
368: [03:46:30] <helenclarko> Thanks
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373: [04:24:53] <nontgor> Does GridField have the option of a 'tick all' box above a boolean column?
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383: [06:29:23] <terryapodaca> wmk: you arounf?
384: [06:29:26] <terryapodaca> around
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391: [07:00:03] <wmk> nontgor, elasticsearc 2.0 released...
392: [07:00:14] <nontgor> wmk: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
393: [07:00:26] <wmk> harr harr
394: [07:00:50] <nontgor> it will be years before it's updated in Debian *Crosses fingers*
395: [07:01:21] <nontgor> wmk: Find as you type search http://imgur.com/a/6RYgJ
396: [07:01:21] <wmk> nontgor, depends...
397: [07:01:46] <nontgor> wmk: ES is not in core Debian, so depends on the package maintainer (I am using a packaged version)
398: [07:02:27] <wmk> yup. I'd install it with the debops elasticsearch role. Dunno when this is updated. but afaik it uses a package.
399: [07:04:29] <wmk> well, the most interesting part is: how backward compatible is it to the current client, what will break or can we update without problems?
400: [07:05:03] <wmk> nontgor, yup, apt package: https://github.com/debops/ansible-elasticsearch/blob/master/tasks/install.yml#L9
401: [07:08:56] <nontgor> *turns off automatic updates* *head in the sand* :-P
402: [07:10:10] <wmk> nontgor, c'mon: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/2.0/breaking-changes-2.0.html
403: [07:10:20] <wmk> if you're brave...
404: [07:10:40] <wmk> but it doesn't sound that bad
405: [07:13:25] <nontgor> wmk: I am on 1.7, and the changelog says 2.0 compatibility http://elasticsearch-py.readthedocs.org/en/master/Changelog.html - newest version is 2.1.0 though :)
406: [07:13:58] <wmk> that's fine.
407: [07:14:14] <wmk> are odd minor versions dev branches?
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409: [07:15:59] <nontgor> Looking at the change log the versions are of the form x.y.z, looks like if z !=0 then it's a bugfix release. Otherwise onwards and upwards
410: [07:16:38] <nontgor> busy grappling with conditional edit fields in a ManyMany and GridField, think I've finally figured it out
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412: [07:39:43] <nontgor> mmm, I can get to the fields of the many many editing part, but can I get to the values of the other end of the many many.... nope so far
413: [07:49:35] <terryapodaca> hey, anyone know how to make floated divs all equal height while they can still be responsive (shrink because an image inside each one shrinks)
414: [07:49:46] <terryapodaca> http://ag.cultivateapps.com/about/poab/
415: [07:50:23] <terryapodaca> if you notice the float issue I have, the second row only contains one because the very first div has the extra line in it
416: [07:52:26] <terryapodaca> can also see it on the very last row on this page: http://ag.cultivateapps.com/about/staff/
417: [07:52:49] <terryapodaca> since each div is floated left, they are floating UP
418: [07:54:22] <wmk> nontgor, what have you tried? Did you see the gridfield extension for managing manymany?
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420: [08:23:41] <nontgor> wmk: Can do with standard SS tools, http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/563328dfa0b07 - had short break but figured out just before I can pass in the field I need to check a value to affect the rendering of another
421: [08:24:02] <nontgor> wmk: Think you've mentioned using the PickerField (or one named similarly) before
422: [08:24:53] <wmk> yup. there is a pickerfield around
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426: [08:42:13] <pinc_> evening
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428: [08:50:45] <nontgor> wmk: And joy, whilst the many many appears to be working I can turn on a checkbox but not turn one off on the many many extra fields...
429: [08:50:48] <nontgor> #raaaaaaaaaaaage
430: [08:56:26] <wmk> against the grid machine?
431: [08:56:29] <wmk> nontgor, ^^
432: [08:56:56] <nontgor> y, still trying to understand behavior. May give up and go the picker field way
433: [08:57:35] <pinc_> Whats the correct way of blocking cms requirements ?
434: [08:59:01] <nontgor> pinc_: Requirements::block(/path/to.file);
435: [08:59:15] <nontgor> pinc_: /path/to being relative to your site root directory
436: [08:59:19] <pinc_> Yea that was my thought too
437: [08:59:27] <pinc_> bjust not seeming to do the trick
438: [09:00:00] <nontgor> pinc_: It's possible it is being re-added after your block
439: [09:00:11] <pinc_> custom left and main extension and its being found/included in my yml config
440: [09:00:29] <pinc_> could be
441: [09:00:44] <pinc_> will try and see if coffee helps
442: [09:00:51] <nontgor> :)
443: [09:00:55] <pinc_> thanks nontgor
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445: [09:06:29] <wmk> pinc_, define cms requirements
446: [09:06:39] <pinc_> evvvvverything
447: [09:06:48] <wmk> why?
448: [09:06:49] <pinc_> nah, just some of the screen css files
449: [09:07:04] <wmk> you can overwrite them in your own file
450: [09:07:23] <pinc_> want to take the overall layout and theme a different direction
451: [09:07:29] <wmk> pinc_, see http://www.silverstrip.es/blog/silverstripe-3-2-clean-up-the-cms/ (shameless self advertising)
452: [09:07:36] <pinc_> ha
453: [09:07:37] <pinc_> nice
454: [09:07:38] <wmk> there is also a ryan wachtl cms theme
455: [09:07:39] <pinc_> will check it
456: [09:07:41] <nontgor> wmk: Checkbox fields not returning anything as per spec http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#successful-controls - this seems to be failing with Grid Details Form
457: [09:08:02] <wmk> pinc_, https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-cms-theme
458: [09:08:03] <pinc_> hmm
459: [09:08:12] <pinc_> yea, have our own cms themeing muodule
460: [09:08:24] <pinc_> but Im wanting to go further than that
461: [09:08:25] <wmk> pinc_, but you can look at the other theme and see how he's done it
462: [09:08:33] <wmk> just for inspiration ;)
463: [09:08:37] <pinc_> ha
464: [09:08:41] <pinc_> i work at toast
465: [09:08:58] <nontgor> goes well with coffee :-P
466: [09:09:02] <pinc_> use that module everyday
467: [09:09:11] <pinc_> wanting to go deeper
468: [09:09:35] <pinc_> that just gives you access to fa and 4 colours
469: [09:10:05] <wmk> hmm, why do you need personal branding?
470: [09:10:05] <pinc_> thanks anywho wmk
471: [09:10:15] <wmk> i don't get that "cms theme" stuff
472: [09:10:45] <pinc_> not branding as much as wanting to play with the layout and deep theming
473: [09:11:01] <pinc_> just a personal thing at the moment
474: [09:11:21] <wmk> ok.
475: [09:11:42] <wmk> so if it's just css: overwrite it with your own style
476: [09:11:52] <wmk> e.g. play with firebug
477: [09:12:57] <pinc_> yea got to that stage now I am just curious as to what else I can do
478: [09:13:57] <pinc_> frontender, so not always the quickest at problem solving the backend as some :(
479: [09:17:00] <wmk> pinc_, good luck on your journey
480: [09:18:42] <pinc_> churp :)
481: [09:21:24] <nontgor> wmk: Seems like this bug https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/4067 - now to check how old this version of SS is...
482: [09:22:10] <nontgor> 3.1.15...
483: [09:40:26] <nontgor> wmk: Fix not in the 3.1 branch but is in 3.2.0 :(
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486: [09:47:10] <r3v3rb> mornin
487: [09:47:12] <r3v3rb> g*
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490: [09:51:03] <Eliseth> Morning
491: [09:52:02] <Eliseth> What is the best way to use an external mailserver for Silverstripe? I'd like to use Amazon SES for sending emails as letting the server send mails has proven to be increasingly difficult with Microsoft (hotmail, etc) policies
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494: [09:56:34] <Eliseth> nvm... google is my friend: http://addons.silverstripe.org/add-ons/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-sesmail
495: [09:56:37] <r3v3rb> Eliseth the is a module called ‘email-helpers’ that should do the trick
496: [09:56:47] <r3v3rb> or that google one
497: [09:56:52] <Eliseth> ^^
498: [10:06:44] <nontgor> wmk: That bug is a bit of a showstopper... can't get Enums to work their either, as getting the values of the fields isn't working. Pain factor involved with upgrading to 3.2 is... ?
499: [10:07:59] <r3v3rb> nontgor: good to know about ENUM’s I was about to upgrade a site to 3.2 and might hold off right now then - especially as I have a question about ENUM’s in 3.1 anyway :)
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502: [10:24:11] <nontgor> r3v3rb: Only Enum in many many extras, that was the context. Well I only spent about 2 mins, but this did not work http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/customising-the-cms/show/17203
503: [10:25:44] <r3v3rb> ok, I’ll try them in my DO…
504: [10:33:51] <wmk> sometimes a simple has_one is more flexible than an enum
505: [10:34:14] <wmk> depends on the case. but you cannot (afaik) update an enum e.g. in a DataExtension
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507: [10:46:59] <wmk> omg. helloween... https://twitter.com/ralphruthe/status/660002191541968896
508: [10:47:11] <r3v3rb> wmk, good to know, my usage is straight enum to offer drodown for two choices nothing fancy and no need to extend in future :D
509: [10:47:25] <wmk> r3v3rb, that's what i thought in past
510: [10:47:45] <r3v3rb> ok, you are going to worry me about future extending ;)
511: [10:47:48] <wmk> r3v3rb, if it's "one locale only" it's ok. But trying to translate an enum is kinda pain
512: [10:48:07] <wmk> afaik THAT was the major reason for me to avoid enums where possible
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514: [10:49:01] <r3v3rb> sure, getting multiple users in different locales to use the same terminolgy for choosing the template to use for rendering ..
515: [10:49:12] <r3v3rb> is definately an enum :D
516: [10:49:20] <r3v3rb> definititely*
517: [10:49:24] <wmk> fine!
518: [10:49:27] <r3v3rb> or whatever ^^
519: [10:49:40] <r3v3rb> :D
520: [10:50:34] <r3v3rb> wmk, i suppose I could make a modeladmin and DO’s to hold the template strings, then _t them all and use the DO’s to form the DropdownField but seems extreme :D
521: [10:50:59] <wmk> r3v3rb, right, and QUickAddNewButton
522: [10:51:17] <r3v3rb> however the above is probably the ‘correct’ way - I’m just lazy
523: [10:51:25] <wmk> with Zauberfisch 's betteri18n is translation of fieldlabels very easy
524: [10:51:31] <wmk> have to run.
525: [10:51:32] <wmk> cheers
526: [10:51:39] <r3v3rb> au revoir
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528: [10:51:59] <swaiba> morning all
529: [10:52:20] <r3v3rb> hi swaiba - coffee?
530: [10:52:29] <swaiba> latte please ;-)
531: [10:52:40] <r3v3rb> \o/ ewwww
532: [10:52:50] <r3v3rb> wheres the caffeine in that!
533: [10:52:57] <swaiba> it's a little more milky
534: [10:53:18] <swaiba> starting the day with a baconegg bap with latte, I'll get the filter machine up and running very soon
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537: [11:25:42] <r3v3rb> :D nice swaiba - bacon egg - lose the bacon its now officially carcinogenic!
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539: [11:26:07] <terryapodaca> \o/\o/
540: [11:26:23] <terryapodaca> ( . )( . )
541: [11:26:38] <terryapodaca> ( . )( . )
542: [11:26:47] <r3v3rb> init or index to run a dataobject test to update them with a default value three months after the initial launch!?
543: [11:27:12] <swaiba> terryapodaca everything ok?
544: [11:27:27] <r3v3rb> boobies - he’s a happy man swaiba
545: [11:27:27] <swaiba> r3v3rb dev task init?
546: [11:27:39] <terryapodaca> swaiba: I was just think about boobies
547: [11:27:42] <r3v3rb> swaiba: yep and for a Page ?
548: [11:27:47] <terryapodaca> like r3v3rb said
549: [11:28:04] <swaiba> r3v3rb any "migration" type task I'd put in a task
550: [11:28:22] <r3v3rb> swaiba: really?
551: [11:28:23] <swaiba> but if a page init is less risk to run someone on load instead of index
552: [11:28:24] <r3v3rb> okay
553: [11:28:56] <r3v3rb> its just for me to do as a one off, so being lazy I was thinking whack it in init, then remove
554: [11:29:11] <swaiba> r3v3rb we have a very complex set of migrations, but I won't go into it... our systems are web apps, not just an online borchure
555: [11:29:17] <r3v3rb> then again that means visiting every page!
556: [11:29:44] <r3v3rb> swaiba: yep, this is too… although looks like just a big site!
557: [11:32:00] <terryapodaca> what's the proper syntax to get say...12 Random DataObjects?
558: [11:32:11] <terryapodaca> Staff::get();
559: [11:32:25] <Mike123> guys how can i extend OptionSetField so that i get Image related to Source Object ?
560: [11:38:29] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca: Staff::get()->sort('RAND()')->limit(12);
561: [11:39:01] <terryapodaca> thanks r3v3rb, I was using $staff = Staff::get()->Limit(12); for now
562: [11:39:11] <terryapodaca> was just missing the sort and RAND
563: [11:39:15] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca: that’s the same 12 though ;)
564: [11:40:45] <swaiba> Mike123 - this should help - https://github.com/dnadesign/silverstripe-advanceddropdowns
565: [11:48:06] <Mike123> swaiba well... this $this->getSource(); returns me not DO so i cant get the Img
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576: [13:13:07] <diana_> hi, I hope someone can help with this one, I'm using setTitle to rename the Content field to steps on a page. on default locale works great, but when switching to another language I get the following error: Call to a member function setTitle()
577: [13:13:57] <ss23> Any more to that error?
578: [13:14:01] <ss23> "Call to a member function"?
579: [13:14:04] <diana_> this is on an object extenfind from Page
580: [13:14:12] <ss23> Is it "on a non-object"?
581: [13:14:25] <Pyhalfdk> your face is a non-object
582: [13:15:04] <diana_> no, just that error
583: [13:15:25] <ss23> diana_: I think there should be slightly more output than that, like it should tell you the line, right?
584: [13:16:12] <diana_> yes, well, the line number, but nothing relevant Fatal error: Call to a member function setTitle() on a non-object in ...\site\mysite\code\Pages\Recipe.php on line 49
585: [13:16:17] <swaiba> i think we all know this will be a non-object issues
586: [13:16:24] <ss23> diana_: See? It says "on a non-object" :P
587: [13:16:29] <ss23> I thought it was, but I wanted to make sure
588: [13:16:34] <diana_> line 49 is where I have this: $fields->fieldByName('Root.Main.Content')->setTitle('Steps');
589: [13:16:44] <ss23> diana_: The part that's failing is the $fields->fieldByName('Root.Main.Content');
590: [13:16:48] <ss23> It's returning null probably
591: [13:17:06] <swaiba> you dont' need to specify the tab to get a field
592: [13:17:10] <diana_> oh I'm very sorry I realized I pasted the wrong end of the error before :(
593: [13:17:13] <ss23> At a guess, is it called something different than Root.Main in a different locale?
594: [13:18:05] <swaiba> diana_ try $fields->dataFieldByName('Content')
595: [13:18:24] <diana_> tab exact title is 'Main Content' in both locales
596: [13:18:28] <diana_> ok one sec
597: [13:18:31] <ss23> Can you setTitle on a dataField?
598: [13:19:59] <Mike123> how do i get second DataList's record ?
599: [13:21:02] <ss23> Mike123: Depends on the list, you could foreach on it and just haev a counter
600: [13:21:12] <ss23> If it's smaller, you could do ->toArray() and use [1]
601: [13:21:13] <swaiba> $list->offsetGet(2) ?
602: [13:21:16] <ss23> wow
603: [13:21:17] <ss23> YOU CAN DO THAT?!
604: [13:21:24] <ss23> Man, swaiba is kicking my ass at knowing about SilverStripe tonight
605: [13:21:25] <ss23> :(
606: [13:21:33] <Mike123> :D
607: [13:21:45] <ss23> whoops
608: [13:22:01] <Mike123> thanks ss23, swaiba :)
609: [13:22:26] <swaiba> ss23 well I had a utility function for it for a while and it bugged me and then I found the right function in SS
610: [13:22:32] <ss23> lol
611: [13:23:20] <diana_> I tried: $fields->dataFieldByName('Content'), same erroor
612: [13:23:42] <ss23> Is there some kind of $fields->tellMeWhatFieldsYouHave?
613: [13:23:42] <diana_> tried: $desc = new FieldList('DataField'); $fields->fieldByName('Root.Main.Datafield')->setTitle('Steps'); Same error
614: [13:23:46] <swaiba> whats the name of the field you are after?
615: [13:24:02] <swaiba> and you've confirmed the name though say the inspector?
616: [13:26:26] <diana_> just the default Content field, yes name='Content'
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618: [13:44:47] <diana_> Used: $fields->dataFieldByName('Content')->setTitle('Steps'); and worked perfect!
619: [13:44:50] <diana_> Thanks
620: [13:45:25] <swaiba> welcome
621: [13:49:17] <elgabbu> hi guys ... i am creating new pages programatically from a build task ... even though i specify a URLSegment for the page ... the resulting URL includes the URLSegments of the parents up until the root.
622: [13:49:45] <elgabbu> I have set nested_urls: false in the config.yml
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625: [14:13:13] <headtrip> Hey Guys, anyone here that allready made experiences with this addon: https://github.com/camspiers/silverstripe-twig ?
626: [14:15:47] <headtrip> Also, we ( http://www.headtrip.eu ) are looking for a Silverstripe Dev that is able to convert html themes fast to silverstripe themes, anyone interested can write me in private with hourly rates :)
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663: [17:35:45] <Pyhalfdk> THAT'S WORK, I'M DONE
664: [17:35:50] <Pyhalfdk> ciao England
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688: [19:49:47] <Firesphere> I can't find a good F.U.N. song by SpongeBob on youtube anywhere :(
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692: [20:23:39] <r3v3rb> anyone know how to writetostage in a task?
693: [20:23:52] <Firesphere> $item->setStage()?
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696: [20:25:43] <r3v3rb> thanks Firesphere
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698: [20:33:03] <Firesphere> Should I order a pizza?
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708: [21:22:57] <Sj0hn> Hi all, any1 been using sheadawson/silverstripe-linkable with the link type not working(not showing the fields, keeping them display:none;)
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710: [21:31:26] <muskie9> Sj0hn do you have all the requirements installed?
711: [21:31:46] <muskie9> https://github.com/sheadawson/silverstripe-linkable/blob/master/composer.json#L20-L23
712: [21:34:01] <Sj0hn> I've installed it with composer, which did fine
713: [21:34:36] <Sj0hn> dev/build
714: [21:34:39] <Sj0hn> and flushed
715: [21:35:09] <muskie9> not sure then, I think we used it recently with no issues
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