#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 23 October 2015

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1: [00:00:15] <Colin[pi]> zippy: I started Cities Skylines, it's awesome
2: [00:00:26] <Colin[pi]> like everything the last sim city wasnt
3: [00:00:35] <zippy> offline mode? :)
4: [00:01:03] <Colin[pi]> zippy: yah
5: [00:01:12] <zippy> cool
6: [00:01:14] <zippy> looks interesting
7: [00:01:21] * zippy is having a client do a client
8: [00:01:32] <Colin[pi]> o_O
9: [00:02:07] <zippy> man it's friday and I CBFFF'd
10: [00:02:30] <Colin[pi]> zippy: I know that feel bro
11: [00:09:11] * Audlex quit ()
12: [00:16:55] <vanny> ok, another dumb question time
13: [00:18:02] <Colin[pi]> vanny: first a mummy and daddy needs to love each other very much
14: [00:18:14] <vanny> I want to secure (SSL) all the pages under a page type
15: [00:18:17] <Colin[pi]> oh
16: [00:18:35] <Colin[pi]> SSL... just a certain page type?
17: [00:19:09] <vanny> i tried this Director::forceSSL(array('/^member/'), but then when you leave out all the other pages are SSL
18: [00:19:19] <ss-helper> SilverStripe - sum() a limited list of dataobject variables - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21802689/silverstripe-sum-a-limited-list-of-dataobject-variables
19: [00:20:02] <Colin[pi]> vanny: can you not just run the whole site over SSL?
20: [00:20:07] <vanny> I was looking at this static $ssl_actions = array(); but not sure how to say all pages underneath
21: [00:20:36] <Zauberfisch> vanny: are you sure you want to enforce ssl via php?
22: [00:20:52] <Zauberfisch> it usually is better to do that via htaccess
23: [00:20:53] <vanny> Really I only need it for type subpages of member, ones that take Credit Cards
24: [00:21:01] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: +1
25: [00:21:16] <Colin[pi]> vanny: yeah but the amount of stuffing around is not worth it imho
26: [00:21:22] <Colin[pi]> just SSL the whole site via Apache config
27: [00:21:47] <Zauberfisch> yeah, if I have ssl available, I usually also just force ssl everywhere
28: [00:22:06] <vanny> so go with this Director::forceSSL(array('/^member/') and then just leave them ssl if needed
29: [00:22:12] <Colin[pi]> do a mod_rewrite rule that redirects :80 -> :443 when someone lands at the URL
30: [00:22:19] <Colin[pi]> then forget about it :D
31: [00:23:04] <vanny> are there any search engine issues with SSL sites? just wondering
32: [00:23:16] <Zauberfisch> no
33: [00:23:45] <vanny> ok thanks
34: [00:23:57] <Zauberfisch> in fact, I think it is actually better to just have ssl, because search engines consider http and https urls as different pages, so it would be duplicate content
35: [00:23:57] <Zauberfisch> if I am not mistaken
36: [00:24:15] <Zauberfisch> so forcing ssl if you have ssl is actually good
37: [00:24:18] <Zauberfisch> in terms of seo
38: [00:24:37] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: mm just the other day I set up an .htaccess for that very thing, just pipes everything through https
39: [00:24:53] <Colin[pi]> he also has several alias domains too, also redirected them
40: [00:25:00] <Colin[pi]> google no likey dupe content
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42: [00:25:29] <Zauberfisch> in fact, wasn't there something that google actually gives a boost to ssl sites over non ssl sites?
43: [00:25:37] <vanny> man, always learning something :)
44: [00:26:15] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: probably so these days
45: [00:26:27] <Colin[pi]> http://searchengineland.com/google-starts-giving-ranking-boost-secure-httpsssl-sites-199446
46: [00:26:29] <Colin[pi]> ^
47: [00:26:38] <Zauberfisch> "whether sites use secure, encrypted connections as a signal in our search ranking algorithms. We've seen positive results, so we're starting to use HTTPS as a ranking signal."
48: [00:26:43] <Zauberfisch> http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/https-as-ranking-signal.html
49: [00:27:01] <Colin[pi]> mm that's interesting to keep in mind
50: [00:27:20] <Zauberfisch> cool, I was right
51: [00:27:26] <Zauberfisch> I haven't considered that
52: [00:27:35] <Zauberfisch> this
53: [00:27:44] <Zauberfisch> and the fact that letsencrypt.org launches soon
54: [00:27:53] <Zauberfisch> gives me a strong argument to get all my clients to use ssl
55: [00:28:17] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: can still cause some issues with shared hosting though
56: [00:28:36] <Colin[pi]> depends on if you are ok with SNI stuff
57: [00:28:46] <vanny> ok, everything is secure now
58: [00:28:50] <vanny> thanks guys
59: [00:28:50] * Colin[pi] shakes fist at old IE
60: [00:28:54] <Colin[pi]> w00t
61: [00:29:07] <Colin[pi]> vanny: yeah dude, all secure is the best way
62: [00:29:12] <Zauberfisch> Colin[pi]: true. but SNI is well supported, so not sure it's a big deal
63: [00:29:36] <Zauberfisch> Colin[pi]: but it's actually not an issue for me at all, because my main production server does not use SNI
64: [00:29:41] <vanny> Hayne is playing right now. Or should I saw watching from the bench
65: [00:29:48] <Zauberfisch> I get a separate IP per vhost
66: [00:29:56] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: IPv4?
67: [00:30:00] <Zauberfisch> yeah
68: [00:30:08] <Zauberfisch> wasting them ips
69: [00:30:09] <Colin[pi]> how the heck did you manage that?
70: [00:30:26] <Zauberfisch> it's default behavior of that hoster
71: [00:30:30] <Colin[pi]> wow
72: [00:30:36] <Colin[pi]> glad they've got them to burn o_O
73: [00:30:51] <Zauberfisch> I mean I have to pay for it, but it's just 10 EUR per year per IP
74: [00:31:10] <Colin[pi]> mm
75: [00:31:39] <Zauberfisch> and adding 10 euros to the yearly bill for hosting is not a big deal
76: [00:31:54] <Colin[pi]> yeah very minimal and gives more flexibility
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79: [00:45:42] <Colin[pi]> quiet in here today
80: [00:53:34] <helenclarko> No antmas.
81: [01:09:15] <Colin[pi]> Colin[pi]: haha that's true
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84: [01:31:07] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], Did you just send that to yourself?
85: [01:31:16] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: LOL
86: [01:31:19] <Colin[pi]> why yes, yes I did
87: [01:31:21] <helenclarko> helenclarko, Lol
88: [01:31:26] <Colin[pi]> Colin[pi]: :D
89: [01:31:50] <Colin[pi]> Colin[pi]: not enough coffee
90: [01:31:55] <helenclarko> Its FIRDAY!
91: [01:32:01] <helenclarko> FIRDAY!
92: [01:32:02] <Colin[pi]> FIRDAY U SAI?
93: [01:32:12] <helenclarko> oh firday.
94: [01:32:27] <helenclarko> doesnt look quite right does it.
95: [01:32:49] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://i.imgur.com/Uncv6Y3.gif
96: [01:33:08] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], Lol
97: [01:33:33] <helenclarko> I tried, okay!
98: [01:34:10] <helenclarko> I know its friday, but my fingers go le tired!
99: [01:34:34] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://i.imgur.com/qWs2xKQ.gif
100: [01:35:08] <helenclarko> How do you have these gifs just ready to go.
101: [01:35:31] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://i.imgur.com/gBKH3cj.gif
102: [01:35:46] <helenclarko> AWWW COMEON!
103: [01:36:36] <helenclarko> Thats just REALLY REALLY... Clever actually.
104: [01:36:37] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://i.imgur.com/zmbrt.gif
105: [01:37:10] <terryapodaca> Colin[pi]: is killing it
106: [01:37:39] <helenclarko> I'm not even mad
107: [01:37:43] <helenclarko> Thats amazing
108: [01:37:49] <Colin[pi]> http://i.imgur.com/dsXlwtv.gif
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110: [01:38:17] <helenclarko> any mic drop gifs?
111: [01:38:58] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://imgur.com/WTUWY7U.gif
112: [01:39:33] <helenclarko> HAhahaha
113: [01:39:56] <Colin[pi]> this gif is still one of my favs: http://i.imgur.com/4FmTwg8.gif
114: [01:40:39] <Colin[pi]> Bilbo really likes flipping the bird lol
115: [01:43:05] <helenclarko> I wonder if any made it into the film.
116: [01:43:21] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: http://i.imgur.com/H90q8k1.gif
117: [01:43:21] <helenclarko> Super sneaky easter egg hobits.
118: [01:43:41] <Colin[pi]> it's the nodding dwarf in the bg that makes me lol
119: [01:44:19] <helenclarko> Like yea, he gets it.
120: [01:46:29] <helenclarko> Still love these: http://i.imgur.com/fhMFN.gif
121: [01:46:57] <helenclarko> Shmashing!
122: [01:47:22] <Colin[pi]> lol
123: [01:47:35] <helenclarko> Has anyone else seen the Nigel goes to the shops you tube video?
124: [01:48:49] <helenclarko> This had me unable to speak, I was laughing too much: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPo-vwUFhRg
125: [01:49:58] <Colin[pi]> lol
126: [01:51:10] <helenclarko> I like the videos that are super confusing.
127: [01:51:47] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: this one always makes me laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcniyQYFU6M
128: [01:52:21] <helenclarko> Its so close!
129: [01:53:13] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: this one is hilarious also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfl33Tn0pYc
130: [01:54:14] <helenclarko> When the little one falls over and fires sauce everywhere. lol! and the guy laughing in the background, like "not my job"
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139: [03:05:30] <zippy> #4 is funny; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C3D0rcFXrY
140: [03:09:11] <vanny> man all the good domain names are taken already
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145: [03:20:27] <zippy> vanny: zippy-is-awesome.com is still avial
146: [03:21:01] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
147: [03:25:28] <vanny> hahaqhaha
148: [03:25:37] <vanny> so is vanny-rocks.com
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150: [03:25:50] <vanny> although that sounds like 18+ site
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156: [04:19:24] <ss-helper> get response of a gridfield custom action - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32963391/get-response-of-a-gridfield-custom-action
157: [04:20:21] <Zauberfisch> anyone updated to 3.2 yet?
158: [04:20:38] <Zauberfisch> I can't seem to upload files anymore as of 3.2
159: [04:21:40] <Zauberfisch> (drag&drop just doesn't do anything. selecting a file shows the progress bar but then the file disappears again)
160: [04:22:56] <Zauberfisch> hmmm. works in firefox. but not in chrome
161: [04:22:57] <Zauberfisch> weird
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165: [04:34:47] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Clearly, we should also have "should we drop PHP 5.4 support in SS4?" thread as well :-) - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/7mVvhNNeNps/nW3E2NPQBgAJ
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168: [04:49:24] <ss-helper> Custom fields not appearing - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32933214/custom-fields-not-appearing
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172: [06:22:54] <Mike123> Morning
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174: [06:31:13] <Mike123> Morning wmk :))
175: [06:31:30] <wmk> hey ho
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180: [07:33:41] <Mike123> has anyone used ss-shop here? need some help
181: [07:41:36] <terryapodaca> what's your questions?
182: [07:41:48] <terryapodaca> I've used it a couple times, but in a super simple setup
183: [07:42:11] <terryapodaca> also, if you can't get answers here, have you tried: https://gitter.im/burnbright/silverstripe-shop
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186: [07:49:59] <ss-helper> AW: [silverstripe-dev] Config static for field descriptions? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/CUSLk6-_cII/TJIJoFLbBgAJ
187: [07:51:44] <Mike123> terryapodaca, i have few questions for know... i need to make 2 checkout steps, example: delivery step should contain delivery method to choose and delivery info , 2 step is payment method choose and billind adress
188: [07:56:32] * qlex has joined #silverstripe
189: [07:56:39] * qlex says hi
190: [07:57:23] <qlex> there's some activity on userforms issues, i was wondering if there's anyone here now, that could help me answer questions regarding binding e-signature and forms in silverstripe ?
191: [08:02:30] <qlex> anyone? i was wondering if my client who uses userforms to create a contact form for their visitors, can have a field where visitor will sign the form with his/hers e-signature (file)
192: [08:02:43] <qlex> can this be done with fileupload field - obviously would need modifications
193: [08:02:47] <qlex> has any1 done such things ?
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195: [08:05:01] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Config static for field descriptions? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/CUSLk6-_cII/uq_M-_ivBgAJ
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198: [08:13:42] <Tanger> qlex: Can you just use the file uplaod to handle it?
199: [08:14:15] <qlex> Tanger: have you tried / has anyone you know tried it ?
200: [08:14:46] <qlex> i'm not sure if its just handled by the client then, once he receives an mail with the form (that was filled by visitor) with that e-signature?
201: [08:14:48] <Tanger> qlex: Sadly no.
202: [08:15:12] <terryapodaca> Mike123: I would wait and ask burnbright/Jeremy Shipman directly on his shop conversation
203: [08:15:34] <Tanger> qlex: My gut feeling would be that they just need to upload it with the form and that should perhaps require manual verification?
204: [08:15:35] <terryapodaca> welp, i just looked and you already did
205: [08:16:47] <qlex> Tanger: that was my immediate answer to client - but i was hoping somebody did something with that
206: [08:17:09] <terryapodaca> qlex Tanger: is something like this: http://addons.silverstripe.org/add-ons/groupdocs/groupdocs-signature
207: [08:17:14] <terryapodaca> what you are looking for?
208: [08:17:29] <qlex> polish public institutions are working hard on e-government and it's a hype now that all those organizations need to have some sort of incoming box for all queries from the public
209: [08:17:49] <terryapodaca> or maybe you can just sift through that code and see if any of it will help
210: [08:18:49] <qlex> terryapodaca: thanx - i will need to check if its aligned with polish requirements
211: [08:19:28] <terryapodaca> http://addons.silverstripe.org/add-ons/brrltd/silverstripe-signaturegenerator
212: [08:19:49] <terryapodaca> yeah, I am sure you will have to do some customization or actually build your own based on one of these
213: [08:20:01] <terryapodaca> just trying to point you in the right direction
214: [08:20:02] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Config static for field descriptions? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/CUSLk6-_cII/iIkb0Q-uBgAJ
215: [08:25:53] <swaiba> qlex - again just to help/reference - https://github.com/micschk/silverstripe-signaturefield
216: [08:25:59] <swaiba> this one is wrapped ina formfield
217: [08:26:55] <terryapodaca> good one swaiba!!!!!!!!!
218: [08:26:58] <qlex> swaiba: thanks i will have a look
219: [08:27:23] <qlex> but it ain't e-signature the way i mean it (public/private key)
220: [08:27:26] <qlex> but a good one too !
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222: [08:42:18] <wmk> back in composer hell
223: [08:53:58] <kinglozzer> wmk: Did you ever get out? ;)
224: [08:57:37] <terryapodaca> don't say that wmk, I'm just now getting use to it
225: [09:03:04] <wmk> well, my module wants sortablegridfield 0.5.x, other module wants ~0.4.0 which is 0.4.x
226: [09:03:13] <wmk> so...
227: [09:03:41] <wmk> i guess we should come to v1 asap
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231: [09:09:16] <terryapodaca> anyone want to help me look at my CSS, and possibly why it's not working as expected?
232: [09:11:37] <Pycnak> oh hurro
233: [09:11:53] <Pycnak> qlex: dobre utro
234: [09:12:12] <Pycnak> Did you make it to the conference?
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238: [09:20:07] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Checkbox field labels - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/LWPmZt4Ks9Q/nRnHBg-uBgAJ
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240: [09:29:11] <wmk> composer doesn't want to install your package? here's a possible solution: http://i.giphy.com/3oEdv7ru7ewFsicBAQ.gif
241: [09:35:08] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Config static for field descriptions? - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/CUSLk6-_cII/iIkb0Q-uBgAJ
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269: [10:35:03] <swaiba> wmk giphy rules
270: [10:35:18] <wmk> ;)
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272: [10:37:15] <terryapodaca1> why does giphy rule?
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276: [10:40:58] <terryapodaca1> Mike123: looks like someone answered you already
277: [10:42:07] <wmk> terryapodaca1, composer doesn't want to install your package? here's a possible solution: http://i.giphy.com/3oEdv7ru7ewFsicBAQ.gif
278: [10:42:35] <terryapodaca1> :D
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282: [10:50:42] <Mike123> terryapodaca1 , yap :) got answered :) thanks
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284: [10:58:48] <Pycnak> bahahhahaahahaha
285: [10:58:56] <Pycnak> so one of the guys got some google glass
286: [10:58:59] <Pycnak> (es)
287: [10:59:07] <Pycnak> let one of the other lads just have a go
288: [10:59:30] <Pycnak> this colleague took a picture of the guy who just bought them, which is fine, but hten accidentally sent it to his ex wife, hahahahaahahahhaha
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292: [11:06:25] <ss-helper> MarkGuin_: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
293: [11:11:58] <swaiba> terryapodaca1 it rules... because
294: [11:12:14] <swaiba> actually I was only told about it recently in terms of adding it to slack
295: [11:12:29] <terryapodaca1> I was just teasing
296: [11:12:34] <swaiba> and the running joke is that whatever keyword you use to convey something giphy gets it completely wrong
297: [11:13:02] <swaiba> terryapodaca1 me to literally minded lol
298: [11:29:12] <Pycnak> oh shit.
299: [11:29:22] <Pycnak> compnay news: some employee wrote a kids book.
300: [11:29:31] <Pycnak> "Bumhead Bill".
301: [11:29:40] <Pycnak> About a guy with literally an arse for a face.
302: [11:29:52] <Pycnak> for _children_
303: [11:29:54] <Pycnak> wtf.
304: [11:30:14] <Pycnak> colleague won't shut up about it (complaining in a bad way)
305: [11:30:38] <Pycnak> being a kids book, it's illustrated.
306: [11:30:40] <Pycnak> dafuq
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308: [11:31:45] <slievr> can I pass vars into an include in template, like so <% include Content-$ClassName %>
309: [11:33:30] <Pycnak> <% include File Var=Thing etc=etc %>
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311: [11:34:40] <slievr> the goal is to use the var to select the include file
312: [11:35:13] <terryapodaca1> yes you can
313: [11:35:51] <terryapodaca1> <% if var = something %><% include customincludefile %>
314: [11:36:07] <terryapodaca1> <% else %><% include defaultincludefile %>
315: [11:36:38] <terryapodaca1> could be a prettier way, but that gives you an idea
316: [11:36:49] <terryapodaca1> if I understand your requirements correctly
317: [11:38:01] <kinglozzer> Pycnak: wtf?
318: [11:38:10] <kinglozzer> Seriously?! Hahaha
319: [11:38:18] <kinglozzer> 10/10 would read
320: [11:44:37] <kinglozzer> http://i.imgur.com/VDl22t5.png bitbucket y u do dis? :'(
321: [11:44:48] <Pycnak> kinglozzer: which one? haha
322: [11:45:27] <Pycnak> oh the book, right.
323: [11:45:30] <kinglozzer> Pycnak: The kid's book :P
324: [11:45:42] <kinglozzer> Arseface Adam
325: [11:45:54] <Pycnak> thought the email to the ex wife was funnier this morning :P
326: [11:46:32] <Pycnak> yeah, not the kind of friend you'd want though kinglozzer. Bad breath would be atrocious.
327: [11:46:37] <kinglozzer> haha
328: [11:46:52] <swaiba> Pycnak that is craaaazy
329: [11:46:52] <Pycnak> going out for dinner would remind me of that southpark episode
330: [11:46:57] * kinglozzer lunch bbiab
331: [11:47:39] <Pycnak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmNeO63xCnU
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333: [11:54:52] <Pycnak> I leave in a week. Why the FUCK am I still reading codeigniter code?
334: [11:55:04] <Pycnak> HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
335: [11:57:13] <Pycnak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv_ptXgAzZA
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337: [12:12:59] <terryapodaca1> what's the best way, in SS of course, to stop a menu item from actually being clickable to a page if it has sub menu items
338: [12:13:14] <terryapodaca1> but I still want it to be hoverable
339: [12:13:24] <terryapodaca1> and still clickable to show/hide the submenu
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341: [12:19:12] <Pycnak> <% if $Children %><span><% else %><a ...><% end_if %> ?
342: [12:19:54] <Pycnak> or better, <a<% if not $Children %> href="$Link"<% end_if>>
343: [12:20:03] <Pycnak> something like that
344: [12:21:02] <terryapodaca1> so I can leave the anchor tag, just remove the href if it has submenu items
345: [12:23:33] <MarkGuinn> or link to "javascript:;"
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348: [12:42:30] <terryapodaca1> MarkGuinn: I thought that was frowned upon
349: [12:42:40] <MarkGuinn> by whom?
350: [12:53:05] <terryapodaca1> well, basically by everyone that pushes unobtrusive JS
351: [12:54:37] <terryapodaca1> so I'd say just about every industry icon/leader
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356: [13:05:17] <Parker1090> Hi all
357: [13:07:34] <Mike123> guys if i have <% with Cart %><% include Cart %><% end_with %> and form $CouponForm , how can i use this form inside Cart.ss ?
358: [13:08:03] <Parker1090> Is there a variable for templates to return if the site is live or draft please?
359: [13:08:45] <terryapodaca1> Mike123: you should be able to put the $CouponForm inside the Cart.ss file
360: [13:09:08] <Mike123> doesnt showing up :/
361: [13:09:27] <Mike123> if i put it beyond %with% it works
362: [13:09:37] <MarkGuinn> <% include Cart CouponForm=Top.CouponForm %> might work
363: [13:09:41] <Mike123> can i escape this "with" ?
364: [13:10:12] <MarkGuinn> be careful though because Cart.ss is used in a few different places
365: [13:10:48] <terryapodaca1> yeah, I'd listen to MarkGuinn, he seems heavily involved with that Module originally created by Shipman
366: [13:15:45] <Mike123> MarkGuinn, terryapodaca1 thanks :) one more question ... can i pass few parameter to include ?
367: [13:16:21] <MarkGuinn> You can indeed - https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.2/developer_guides/templates/syntax/#includes
368: [13:16:45] <MarkGuinn> Looks like the above should actually be: <% include Cart CouponForm=$Top.CouponForm %>
369: [13:21:39] <Mike123> MarkGuinn, thanks , i was wondering is it ok then theres a form in a form ??
370: [13:24:12] <MarkGuinn> Form within a form is probably going to cause you issues. We should maybe take this back to the ss-shop gitter channel so we're not spamming the main silverstripe channel.
371: [13:25:16] <Mike123> or just private chat :)
372: [13:27:09] <terryapodaca1> y'all are fine, it's useful info
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376: [13:34:29] <Pycnak> MarkGuinn: Did someone say form in a form?
377: [13:35:09] <MarkGuinn> They did. Do you have any experience with that? I've always just assumed it doesn't lead anywhere good.
378: [13:35:25] <terryapodaca1> Pycnak: he said you should put the $CouponForm in CartPage.ss, outside of Cart.ss, and definitely outside of any other form
379: [13:36:51] <terryapodaca1> and I believe HTML5 forbids nested forms
380: [13:39:11] <Pycnak> well yeah, don't do that :<
381: [13:39:35] <Pycnak> but you can not put your forms in a <form> and use the form="specificFormID" attribute
382: [13:39:44] <Pycnak> err fields*
383: [13:40:12] <Pycnak> ----------------------------^
384: [13:41:20] <Pycnak> Parker1090: better yet, there's a full module for it.
385: [13:42:55] <terryapodaca1> ?
386: [13:43:00] <Pycnak> Parker1090: jonom/silverstripe-betternavigator
387: [13:45:42] <Parker1090> Oooo, that looks good
388: [13:45:43] <Parker1090> thank you
389: [13:45:44] <Pycnak> https://github.com/jonom/silverstripe-betternavigator
390: [13:45:53] <Parker1090> ye - got it, cheers
391: [13:46:48] <Parker1090> That's really nice. I like that :D
392: [13:48:05] <slievr> does Email require smtp server?
393: [13:48:08] <Pycnak> Parker1090: you might like this talk: http://www.slideshare.net/ColinRichardson7/silverstripe-modules-for-a-better-life
394: [13:48:22] <Pycnak> slievr: all email ever requires SMTP server.
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396: [13:49:54] <Pycnak> slievr: if you're asking if you need some kind of external module to connect to an SMTP server, generally your distro will have one set up by default and PHP will use this (at PHP level).
397: [13:50:21] <Pycnak> You can get modules to connect to a different one from application level if you wish. SS is no exception, there are modules available for this.
398: [13:50:34] <r3v3rb> hey, anyone know a simple way to duplicate or dataobjects when duplicating a page using translatable?
399: [13:50:50] <Pycnak> or?
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401: [13:51:04] <Pycnak> r3v3rb: clone($dataobject) ?
402: [13:51:06] <Pycnak> idk :<
403: [13:51:18] <r3v3rb> Pycnak: why not :<
404: [13:51:19] <Parker1090> Pycnak: that's a really helpful link :D. Thank you
405: [13:51:39] <Pycnak> Parker1090: not me, kinglozzer's boss.
406: [13:51:48] <Pycnak> :>
407: [13:52:17] <Pycnak> r3v3rb: I divven know all the things man!
408: [13:52:22] <slievr> Pycnak: thanks, I'm just bad at asking questions.
409: [13:52:29] <Pycnak> :>
410: [13:52:38] <r3v3rb> Pycnak: ur fecking useless to me then!
411: [13:52:40] <Pycnak> slievr: you get used to it after a while :P
412: [13:52:42] <r3v3rb> :P
413: [13:53:19] <Pycnak> r3v3rb: well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2O3OAQjng ?
414: [13:54:10] <slievr> Pycnak: postfix config is currently breaking things and I was seeing if ss was affected.
415: [13:54:12] <Pycnak> look everybody, internets! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Internet_map_1024_-_transparent%2C_inverted.png
416: [13:54:21] <Pycnak> slievr: ... possibly.
417: [13:54:34] <slievr> Pycnak: that's some pretty internets
418: [13:54:51] <Pycnak> slievr: try simply php -r "mail('to','from','subject','message');"
419: [13:54:53] <Pycnak> or something like that
420: [13:55:14] <Frans_Amsterdam> Hi, I'm running in to a problem. Please view: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/562a3b242d892 With this code I run into this error: Fatal error: "Call to a member function Image() on null in" It works fine if I swap in the actual value for the $id. Some how I cannot use $this->ID on the Object.
421: [13:55:16] <Pycnak> (from cli && check with http://php.net/mail first for correct param order)
422: [13:56:55] <terryapodaca1> What ever did happen to the Navigator being turned on by default?
423: [13:57:02] <Pycnak> Frans_Amsterdam: why not just $this->NewsImages()->First()->Image() ?
424: [13:57:19] <Pycnak> terryapodaca1: I think it was scrapped entirely.
425: [13:57:22] <Pycnak> at 3.0
426: [13:57:30] <Pycnak> not entirely sure though
427: [13:57:54] <terryapodaca1> it probably was, I don't remember it being an option in 2.4.7 either
428: [13:58:30] <Pycnak> well, you had to maually put it into your themes.
429: [13:58:38] <Pycnak> $SilverstripeNavigator or something like that
430: [13:59:19] <terryapodaca1> yeah, I recall trying to add it just for shits and giggles to a sample project and I never could get it to show up
431: [13:59:37] <terryapodaca1> didn't matter though, it was just a proof of concept site for a client
432: [13:59:38] * Pycnak shrugs
433: [13:59:48] <Pycnak> I never used it. I don't think many folks did.
434: [13:59:57] <Pycnak> It kinda hammered the design a bit iirc.
435: [14:00:04] <Pycnak> if you weren't careful
436: [14:00:24] <Pycnak> maybe not. I can't remember, it was so long ago man!
437: [14:01:24] <Frans_Amsterdam> Pycnak This give me another error. Fatal error: Call to a member function Image() on boolean in /var/www/salto-systems-repo/mysite/code/model/NewsItem.php on line 37 I'm trying to display the image on a has_many relation in the summary fields.
438: [14:01:52] <Pycnak> I see that.
439: [14:02:14] <Pycnak> for some reason the datalist is returning you a boolean (well first() on that list is)
440: [14:02:21] <Pycnak> it shouldn't be.
441: [14:08:14] <Pycnak> $this [DataObject: Page] ->NewsImages() [DataList: HasManyList] ->First() [DataObject: NewsImage] ->Image() [DataObject: Image]
442: [14:12:13] <Frans_Amsterdam> Pycnak If a fetch $this->NewsImages()it returns an UnsavedRelationList.
443: [14:12:30] <Frans_Amsterdam> Is it famous for some reason?
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446: [14:18:29] <r3v3rb> Pycnak: heres an easier one, why does my gridfield relation ‘link existing’ show #1 #4 when typing in letters ;) What do I need to do to get the Content returned?
447: [14:19:10] <r3v3rb> the dataobjects contain only two fields - Sort and Content. Content is setup as summary_fields - is that not enough :(
448: [14:20:03] <terryapodaca1> is there a <% if NOT $InSection(home) %>....notice the NOT
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451: [14:28:28] <r3v3rb> hmm, is there any way to grab all the has_many or many_many creating a translation
452: [14:32:43] <r3v3rb> ohhh… public function onTranslatableCreate() { …
453: [14:35:19] <r3v3rb> ok, beginning of a happy day - I need a generic way to get all the has_many fields on any given class
454: [14:37:16] <swaiba> r3v3rb Config::inst()->get($class, 'has_many');
455: [14:37:28] <r3v3rb> swaiba: I love you!
456: [14:37:41] <swaiba> r3v3rb I love coffee more! ;-)
457: [14:38:21] <r3v3rb> swaiba: if this works I may be about to give birth
458: [14:38:24] <r3v3rb> live on iRC
459: [14:39:19] <r3v3rb> still have to figure why my lovely columbian homepage is return a blank page yet the US, UK and Australian are fine!
460: [14:42:51] <terryapodaca1> quick CSS thing...http://ag.cultivateapps.com/
461: [14:43:26] <terryapodaca1> on the menu on the left...how can I keep the link text color when hovered the same if I am hovering over the triangle
462: [14:47:27] <r3v3rb> nice, one set of classes returned - now to step through and duplicate, add and save them into each translation :D
463: [14:54:12] <r3v3rb> swaiba: you are now officially owed a coffee of your choosing!
464: [14:55:39] <leomeloxp> terryapodaca1: Maybe add a.link > ul:hover { color }
465: [14:55:56] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca1: change this : ul.menu-left li a:hover, main.css line 82
466: [14:57:07] <r3v3rb> btw terryapodaca1 you mobile menu doesn’t disappear if I alter the window size …
467: [14:57:21] <swaiba> r3v3rb woo-hooo!
468: [14:57:23] <r3v3rb> won’t happen in real life but might for computer users
469: [14:57:34] <r3v3rb> swaiba: immaaaaaa happppy man!
470: [14:57:41] <swaiba> I'll celebrate with... some coffee!
471: [14:57:45] <r3v3rb> I am!
472: [14:57:46] <swaiba> glad to help out as always :)
473: [14:57:56] <terryapodaca1> r3v3rb: yeah, I'm still working on the mobile menu and resizing the screen stuff
474: [14:58:07] <r3v3rb> just a little nested loop and lots of ->add()s to do
475: [14:58:23] <terryapodaca1> and when you say "change this"
476: [14:59:29] <r3v3rb> change the css value - it’s set to color: rgba(255,255,255,0.5) which is 50% white on white…
477: [15:00:15] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca1: right click the element in firefox DOM and Style inspector and choose ‘psuedo’ hover ;)
478: [15:00:59] <r3v3rb> will show the element and the class as hovered, then you can alter and see what’s going on
479: [15:02:54] <r3v3rb> swaiba: onTranslatableCreate() even gets caught by the batch translate function I have here!!!!! HAPPPY FRIDAY!!!!!
480: [15:03:13] <r3v3rb> now to add some <% cache %> blocks to ease the db pressure!
481: [15:03:33] <swaiba> go all out and use static publisher, your server will love you
482: [15:04:44] <r3v3rb> yeh, donedid before but it led to problems << was 2.4.1x or summat though
483: [15:07:01] <r3v3rb> swaiba: how do you get around forms on everypage with staticpublisher then ?
484: [15:07:35] <r3v3rb> I have ajax forms on every page :D and paginated lists on most others…
485: [15:08:06] <swaiba> on EVERY page? we dont' get around that
486: [15:08:14] <swaiba> we skip pages with forms
487: [15:08:37] <leomeloxp> Sorry it took me a while terryapodaca1
488: [15:08:42] <leomeloxp> li:hover > a.link {
489: [15:08:44] <leomeloxp> color: red;
490: [15:08:46] <leomeloxp> }
491: [15:08:56] <r3v3rb> ahh, well footer has subscribe to newsletter on each page :( they are desparate for sign ups!
492: [15:08:56] <swaiba> but after MarkGuinn talk it seems a little hacking on the security key and putting that in the session should resolve it all
493: [15:09:04] <leomeloxp> Change red to your colour, I didn't realise that the triangle was part of your li, I thought it was ul
494: [15:09:14] <r3v3rb> hmm, swaiba I’ll rewatch when it gets online
495: [15:09:28] <swaiba> the footer sign up is often a mail chimp form or something served from an external site
496: [15:09:59] <swaiba> take into consideration that I'd advise using unobtrusive JS instead of pre hacking with PHP
497: [15:10:26] <swaiba> but in principle I think it's best to go with static publisher and work around then using minor bits of cache
498: [15:10:36] <r3v3rb> true
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501: [15:14:32] <Firesphere> \o
502: [15:14:40] <Firesphere> ChatZilla died :'(
503: [15:15:09] <terryapodaca1> leomeloxp: perfect!
504: [15:19:09] <terryapodaca1> ok r3v3rb, now the sub menu flickers when I get to the very edges, like close or on top of the border between each one
505: [15:19:39] <terryapodaca1> I think it's still defaulting somehow to that outer li a
506: [15:19:50] <r3v3rb> is your <a set to display block, and if so do you have any margins that would create single pixel gaps that will remove the hover?
507: [15:20:03] <wmk> Pycnak, where's the problem with a children book?=
508: [15:21:05] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca1: remove the border-bottom from the li and add it to the a
509: [15:21:06] <terryapodaca1> <a is set to block
510: [15:23:19] <Pycnak> wmk: haha. Maybe not in germany eh?
511: [15:23:45] <terryapodaca1> boooooooooooooooom!
512: [15:23:53] <wmk> well, we have wonderful kids books.
513: [15:24:05] <Pycnak> r3v3rb: you need getName() or getTitle()
514: [15:24:09] <terryapodaca1> thanks both leomeloxp and r3v3rb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
515: [15:24:15] <terryapodaca1> I owe you both some beers
516: [15:24:25] <r3v3rb> Pycnak: thanks
517: [15:24:28] <wmk> though "they" (read as: political corectness *****) try to censor the good old books
518: [15:24:43] <r3v3rb> i’ll take a look and see where it goes
519: [15:24:55] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca1: all fixed?
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522: [15:34:07] <terryapodaca> r3v3rb: for that main menu, yes, now I need to go finish the mobile menu
523: [15:34:19] <r3v3rb> terryapodaca: good luck :D
524: [15:34:36] <terryapodaca> which is going to be tricky because I have the sub menus, but they are hidden at first
525: [15:35:18] <terryapodaca> so like About if you click on it in the mobile menu,, it just opens the sub menu and isn't actually clickable to the about page
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527: [15:35:42] <terryapodaca> I might have to just open the mobile menu fully, which kind of sucks
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529: [15:52:25] <kinglozzer> terryapodaca: You mentioned navigator earlier, just checking - have you seen the betternavigator module?
530: [15:54:16] <terryapodaca> kinglozzer: yeah, Pycnak linked to that module, that's why I mentioned it earlier
531: [15:54:28] <kinglozzer> oic
532: [15:54:43] <terryapodaca> I knew it was removed at some point and thought it was cool that someone made a module for it
533: [15:54:44] <kinglozzer> oh yeah lol, completely missed that ><
534: [15:55:00] <Firesphere> I like BetterNavigator
535: [15:55:05] <Firesphere> Ow hey kinglozzer!
536: [15:55:12] <kinglozzer> ohai Firesphere
537: [15:55:23] <Firesphere> I pissed off Joel again :P
538: [15:55:42] <kinglozzer> Again? I wasn't aware there was a first time :P
539: [15:56:21] <Firesphere> I've been chatting/skyping with him for over half a year, how hard is it? I mean, my friday appearance was... erm... a "spark" :D
540: [15:57:34] <kinglozzer> I don't get it D:
541: [15:57:40] <kinglozzer> What happened on Friday?
542: [15:58:13] <Pycnak> Congratulations Firesphere :)
543: [15:58:26] <Pycnak> You're ahead of me! I haven't even got tickets yet :<
544: [15:59:10] <Firesphere> kinglozzer, on friday, i entered the conf-room at 9:30 sharp. Getting on stage with my backpack on my back, my coat still on :P
545: [15:59:22] <Firesphere> Pycnak, You're going Kiwi-training as well? :D
546: [16:00:11] <terryapodaca> how many names do you go by Pycnak
547: [16:01:22] <kinglozzer> Oh I see Firesphere :P
548: [16:01:38] <Pycnak> terryapodaca: all of them :P
549: [16:02:38] <Pycnak> Joel is a very type A personality. Plans, schedules, punctuality.
550: [16:02:50] <Pycnak> oversleeping causes Joel stress :P
551: [16:02:55] <Pycnak> poor lad.
552: [16:03:46] <Pycnak> terryapodaca: I don't auth or use proper name when I'm at work, behind corporate proxy and all that.
553: [16:04:13] <Pycnak> At home I just have the one, or two... or whatever, depending on the device I'm using.
554: [16:04:20] <Firesphere> Pycnak, He's a nice guy, generally very dedicated. Just obviously not a developer ;)
555: [16:04:39] <terryapodaca> no worries Pycnak, i just find it funny how often you change it
556: [16:04:52] <Pycnak> Firesphere: Oh yeah, very nice guy. Just likes things to run like they're on a rail :)
557: [16:04:58] <terryapodaca> sometimes changing it a couple times in the same day
558: [16:05:01] <kinglozzer> Rushing around at the last minute with zero orginsation is a valuable skill for developers ;)
559: [16:05:07] <Firesphere> Pycnak, do you have your visa yet?
560: [16:05:14] <Pycnak> nope.
561: [16:05:33] <Firesphere> kinglozzer, hush! Don't give away our secrets! :P
562: [16:05:50] <kinglozzer> Pycnak: Why do you need a visa? D:
563: [16:06:06] <Pycnak> kinglozzer: basically, lol :P Especially folks like Firesphere and I, we're all very "eh, it'll happen... soon. ish."
564: [16:06:20] <Firesphere> I don't know, but I utterly have no clue anymore who Pycnak actually is :P
565: [16:06:25] <Pycnak> kinglozzer: To go through America. But hopefully I won't go that way.
566: [16:06:38] <Pycnak> Firesphere has one of those memories kinglozzer :P
567: [16:06:38] <kinglozzer> Pycnak: Ahhh I see. Dubai way?
568: [16:06:59] <Pycnak> kinglozzer: yeh. Or Canada. Because fuck paying the states money to get strip searched to not even enter the country.
569: [16:07:06] <Firesphere> Yeah, I have a great memory! Wait, what was I talking about?
570: [16:07:12] <Pycnak> :P
571: [16:07:19] <terryapodaca> You don't want to come through the states
572: [16:07:30] <Pycnak> That is correct, I do not ;)
573: [16:07:42] <Firesphere> I'm going Amsterdamned => Dubay => HongKong => Wellington
574: [16:07:45] <Pycnak> Might get shot for being beige :P
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576: [16:08:28] <Pycnak> I came SYD => Dubai => NCL, and I'll probably go back a similar way in reverse (although first stop probably different)
577: [16:08:34] <terryapodaca> They are now requiring us to have a Passport (similar to a Visa) to travel from state to state
578: [16:08:54] <terryapodaca> which is outragouse
579: [16:09:06] <terryapodaca> outrageous
580: [16:09:07] <Pycnak> terryapodaca: hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha
581: [16:09:15] <Pycnak> Welcome to Russia v2.
582: [16:09:35] <Pycnak> Russia has been like that since USSR days.
583: [16:09:42] <AlphaCactus> terryapodaca: what country is doing that now?
584: [16:09:52] <terryapodaca> The US
585: [16:09:58] <AlphaCactus> bs
586: [16:10:17] <Pycnak> I find it so f'n hilarious how much it was indoctrinated about 'better dead than red', yet the States have an EXTREMELY similar system, just from a slightly different angle.
587: [16:10:39] <AlphaCactus> for foreigners?
588: [16:10:43] <Pycnak> Stalinism & Mcarthyism pretty much the same thing like.
589: [16:12:32] <Pycnak> ie, Neighbour tells the govt that you're anti communism, suddenly KGB around arresting for no reason. Meanwhile USA pointing at the very act and going "SEE THE OPPRESSION, luckily we're in the land of the free!" and then their neighbour tells the feds that you're a communist... nek minnit...
590: [16:12:48] <Pycnak> feds around, arresting for no reason :P
591: [16:13:04] <terryapodaca> well, let me be a little more clear, Domestic flights are not included...but that doesn't mean I won't have to get on an International flight just to fly from Texas to New York
592: [16:13:06] <Pycnak> that always struck me as blindingly similar and ironic.
593: [16:13:23] <Pycnak> I mean granted that's a long time ago. But still.
594: [16:13:55] <AlphaCactus> ohh. Is it that common to get on international flight to go from ny to texas?
595: [16:14:22] <Pycnak> AlphaCactus: terryapodaca if it's anything like in russia, it's more a personal record. Where you're from, where you live, when you were born, etc (so like a passport), how many kids you have, your insurance, etc.
596: [16:14:26] <terryapodaca> It just depends on where the flight is coming from and what the final destination is for that flight
597: [16:14:45] <Pycnak> But you have to take it when you leave your region (like a state I guess)
598: [16:15:31] <Pycnak> Not that there's any checks (I think there was in the ussr, but not anymore), but it's an official document you need to deal with the govt, etc.
599: [16:15:39] <AlphaCactus> Pycnak: well this whole state to state international flight thing is new to me. I could drive to another state without any problems. there aren't checkpoints at state borders.
600: [16:16:16] <Pycnak> AlphaCactus: yeah like I say, I find it more likely that it'll be spun as more of a mini personal docs dossier thing.
601: [16:16:42] <AlphaCactus> anybody got a link to this thing?
602: [16:16:43] <Pycnak> Not needed, but official all the same. Like you need your licence if you're driving.
603: [16:17:15] <Pycnak> AlphaCactus: NFI, first I've heard of it. I'm just bringing up my (extremely limited) knowledge of a similar thing that happens in Russia
604: [16:17:43] <Pycnak> I guess one might liken it to the identity card EU citizens have.
605: [16:18:05] <Pycnak> You can use it instead of a passport going between EU countries, afiak. Firesphere can probably shed more light on that.
606: [16:18:26] <Pycnak> but the freedom of movement means you don't really need it going over land borders
607: [16:18:36] <Pycnak> but is official ID.
608: [16:18:55] <Pycnak> so far as I understand it.
609: [16:20:12] <AlphaCactus> yeah I haven't heard of anything like that happening for interstate travel in the us. I'm sure there would be huge uproar if something like that came along.
610: [16:20:54] <terryapodaca> I don't know exactly all the stipulations, but it'll be coming January 1st
611: [16:21:48] <Pycnak> lol, that uproar the deafening AlphaCactus.
612: [16:21:49] <terryapodaca> AlphaCactus: http://truthinmedia.com/real-id-to-launch-in-2016-tsa-will-force-airline-passengers-to-show-national-id-before-flying/
613: [16:22:07] <Pycnak> yeah, it's like showing your drivers licence as official ID.
614: [16:22:12] <Pycnak> only 'more official'.
615: [16:22:13] <nontgor> you guys have it easy. In Thailand if I stay in another state for more than 24 hours I have 48 hours to fill this form in and hand it to immigration (a 16km bicycle ride) http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/pdf/tm28.pdf
616: [16:22:16] * Pycnak shrugs
617: [16:22:25] * kinglozzer weekend
618: [16:22:27] * kinglozzer week off
619: [16:22:32] <Pycnak> nice one kinglozzer
620: [16:22:36] <kinglozzer> cy'all!
621: [16:22:36] <Pycnak> enjoy!
622: [16:22:39] <kinglozzer> ty Pycnak
623: [16:22:39] <Pycnak> ciao
624: [16:22:43] <terryapodaca> later
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626: [16:22:46] <Pycnak> see you next time from NZ probably
627: [16:22:48] <Pycnak> oh
628: [16:22:51] <Pycnak> k
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631: [16:25:37] <AlphaCactus> thx for link terryapodaca
632: [16:26:21] <terryapodaca> AlphaCactus: I think most articles are saying it depends on the state too...but the listed states is incomplete
633: [16:26:45] <AlphaCactus> http://www.dhs.gov/real-id-enforcement-brief
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635: [16:27:12] <terryapodaca> My mother lives in Alaska and she just renewed her Alaska Drivers License and they told her she will need a Passport now to fly back to Texas
636: [16:27:58] <terryapodaca> yeah, I read that page too, it all still seems confusing
637: [16:28:10] <Firesphere> Ardjan v. Nuland here?
638: [16:28:13] <terryapodaca> good thing, I drive just about 90% everywhere I need to go
639: [16:29:52] <Firesphere> I haven't driven a car in over a year :X
640: [16:30:11] <terryapodaca> and if you look at the right side, several states only have "extensions until October 2016" to accept Drivers Licenses, so who knows how long it'll be or how things will change
641: [16:30:22] <Pycnak> probably a good thing terryapodaca - we drive on the other side anyway :P
642: [16:30:27] <Pycnak> err Firesphere
643: [16:30:29] <AlphaCactus> I think it isn't just alaska to texas, its more generally going to be if you are from a state with a noncompliant license.
644: [16:30:42] <Firesphere> Yes Pycnak?
645: [16:31:07] <swaiba> weekend :)
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647: [16:31:19] <terryapodaca> Firesphere: in Texas, you don't go anywhere without a car, everything is too far away
648: [16:31:51] <Firesphere> I'm Dutch. The biggest city in Texas is probably larger than the Netherlands :P
649: [16:31:57] <Pycnak> truth
650: [16:32:09] <Pycnak> how big is NZ compared to the Netherlands?
651: [16:32:23] <Pycnak> I was surprised to learn that NZ has more land area than the UK.
652: [16:32:25] <terryapodaca> AlphaCactus: yeah, but some states only have the extension and will eventually have to either own up or shut up
653: [16:32:34] <Pycnak> not by much, but still...
654: [16:33:18] <AlphaCactus> yep
655: [16:34:15] <terryapodaca> hahaha, i just did a simple google, and Texas is 16 and 1/2 times larger than Holland
656: [16:34:31] <Firesphere> the Netherlands }:|
657: [16:34:42] <terryapodaca> though the population isn't that far off
658: [16:34:59] <Pycnak> wow, NZ is like, nearly 3x the size of the Netherlands.
659: [16:34:59] <terryapodaca> hence, the distance spread here is huge
660: [16:35:01] <Pycnak> wtf
661: [16:35:15] <terryapodaca> sorry, the Netherlands
662: [16:35:17] <Firesphere> Yeah, the Netherlands is a small country, surface-wise
663: [16:35:31] <terryapodaca> I've always been use to it being called Holland
664: [16:35:34] <Firesphere> I live 2 hours away from the beach ;)
665: [16:35:40] <Firesphere> And I'm on the other side of the country :P
666: [16:35:57] <Pycnak> NZ has bloody great mountains over at least 1/4 of the country. So that takes inhabitable size down a bit I guess.
667: [16:35:59] * Pycnak shrugs
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669: [16:36:26] <Pycnak> Firesphere: you'll feel at hom in NZ then, you're never much more than 2 hours from the beach, haha
670: [16:36:27] <terryapodaca> I'd love to live in NZ
671: [16:36:43] <Pycnak> terryapodaca: lol, do what everyone on IRC does, just get a job at SilverStripe, ahahahaha
672: [16:36:52] <Firesphere> Haha, Yeah, it's two hours from coast to coast, right?
673: [16:37:00] <Pycnak> Firesphere: depends on where you are.
674: [16:37:07] <Pycnak> but for the most part... something like that.
675: [16:37:07] <Firesphere> Heh, yeah, getting a job at SilverStripe is the easiest method :P
676: [16:37:20] <Pycnak> Firesphere: but generally about 4 is probably more realistic.
677: [16:37:26] <terryapodaca> The biggest city in NZ is the size of the small college town I went to school in
678: [16:37:32] <Pycnak> depends if you're going as the crow flies or not I guess.
679: [16:37:40] <Pycnak> terryapodaca: yup :P
680: [16:37:41] <Pycnak> 4m
681: [16:37:46] <Pycnak> well, 4.25 now I think
682: [16:37:48] * Pycnak shrugs
683: [16:37:54] <Pycnak> 1/4 in Auckland.
684: [16:38:16] <Pycnak> anyway, time ta dump and gaans home
685: [16:38:16] <terryapodaca> UncleCheese likes it though...
686: [16:38:21] <terryapodaca> so I am sure I would too
687: [16:38:22] <Pycnak> everyone likes it.
688: [16:38:30] <Pycnak> Life is more... casual.
689: [16:38:51] <terryapodaca> later...it's still 11:38 am here, I still have half the day left
690: [16:38:56] <Firesphere> I'm tired :(
691: [16:38:58] <terryapodaca> errr...if I make it that long
692: [16:39:08] <Firesphere> And HydraIRC doesn't support smileys
693: [16:39:55] <terryapodaca> :D
694: [16:39:57] <Pycnak> all monospace text supports smileys.
695: [16:40:38] <Pycnak> ciao, gotta go get ready to move :<
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697: [16:49:39] <ss-helper> How to force silver stripe to save lowercase URL in the admin - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33307460/how-to-force-silver-stripe-to-save-lowercase-url-in-the-admin
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700: [17:14:47] <BrewNaked> Good morning/afternoon...
701: [17:16:18] <BrewNaked> Is there a way to force a SS form to include the multipart enctype?
702: [17:17:52] <BrewNaked> I see where you can poll the form to see the enctype, but it doesn't appear that there is any way to toggle it.
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704: [17:33:45] <BrewNaked> <smacking head> ...or I could actually look at the documentation for the correct version of SS and find the setEncType() function on my own. Ugh... more coffee...
705: [17:35:54] <ss-helper> Re: RFC: Adding ReactJS to SilverStripe CMS - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/WcjutNP-raQ/vYqVgXX7BgAJ
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720: [21:20:24] <ss-helper> Greg__: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
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