#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 12 October 2015

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9: [00:27:29] <antmas> 3.2.0 now latest stable?
10: [00:28:26] <irogue> yup
11: [00:28:34] <antmas> awww yiss
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13: [00:30:51] <irogue> as with all software though, I wouldn't upgrade anything important until there's been a couple of bugfix releases :P
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15: [00:41:46] <antmas> as you do :P
16: [00:44:18] <novaweb> Someone please confirm the syntax for using IS NOT NULL in your filter() query
17: [00:45:08] <novaweb> On field Title, for arguement's sake
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19: [00:48:10] <micmania1> novaweb: ->where(“Title IS NOT NULL”); :p
20: [00:48:29] <novaweb> there's a ->where????
21: [00:48:32] <micmania1> There was a filter added (maybe for 3.2) but I can’t remember its usage.
22: [00:48:41] <novaweb> i thought it was just filter and exclude!
23: [00:49:09] <micmania1> nope, where too but don’t use it unless you absolutely have to. It doesn’t escape your values.
24: [00:49:19] <micmania1> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-DataList.html#_where
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28: [01:00:08] <Colin[pi]> novaweb: yeah where() is handy as it lets you mess around with the underlying query for the list
29: [01:00:36] <Colin[pi]> there is also ->leftJoin(), ->innerJoin() and such
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32: [01:01:33] <novaweb> Thank gais
33: [01:01:38] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: o/
34: [01:01:45] <camfindlay> yo o/
35: [01:02:13] <camfindlay> Any AK based peeps interested in doing a AK Meetup talk this week?
36: [01:03:34] <camfindlay> Kris the guy taking over running the AK meetups has a couple of talks and was looking for 1 more.
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49: [01:37:41] <DanaeNZ> TOO MANY MEETINGS
50: [01:37:44] <DanaeNZ> SOMEONE SAVE ME
51: [01:38:34] <ss23> :O
52: [01:38:37] <ss23> NIPPYS I NEED U
53: [01:39:32] <DanaeNZ> NIPPYS MAN TO THE RESCUE
54: [01:43:48] <novaweb> where's the preg_replace genius at
55: [01:43:56] * antmas just got out of another meeting :|
56: [01:44:37] <novaweb> http://pastie.org/10475755
57: [01:45:28] <ss23> Um
58: [01:45:47] <ss23> That looks like it will delete the h1's
59: [01:46:16] <novaweb> it deletes what's in between the h1s
60: [01:46:21] <novaweb> sorry
61: [01:46:23] <novaweb> shit
62: [01:46:24] <novaweb> hahaha
63: [01:46:38] <novaweb> I meant to comment how do I remove what's IN BETWEEN the h1's too
64: [01:46:51] * novaweb doing ten things at once
65: [01:46:51] <ss23> um
66: [01:46:56] <ss23> Replace it with ''
67: [01:46:57] <ss23> Not $1
68: [01:47:08] <novaweb> chur ss
69: [01:47:23] <ss23> $1 means "replace it with the stuff the regex captured inside the ()'s
70: [01:47:25] <novaweb> yeah... no
71: [01:47:26] <ss23> "
72: [01:47:34] <novaweb> I didn't read the preg_replace docs hahah
73: [01:47:42] <novaweb> thanks
74: [01:47:48] <ss23> So it works right? :O
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76: [01:55:22] * DanaeNZ dies
77: [01:55:26] <irogue> ss23: I see you are still alive, this pleases me
78: [01:55:53] <DanaeNZ> #nohomo
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80: [02:02:46] * spronk wants some nippies
81: [02:02:56] <spronk> PLURAL
82: [02:02:57] <spronk> hmm
83: [02:03:12] <DanaeNZ> nipples
84: [02:03:16] <DanaeNZ> i want some too
85: [02:03:16] <Colin[pi]> BOOBS
86: [02:03:20] <DanaeNZ> BOOOOOBS
87: [02:03:39] <antmas> Nippi?
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89: [02:08:50] <ss23> I just bought 2 nippi
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91: [02:10:22] <antmas> DOUBLE NIPPI
92: [02:20:10] <DanaeNZ> i bought a nippy it was lukewarm and I cried
93: [02:20:15] <spronk> D:
94: [02:20:16] <antmas> blegh
95: [02:20:20] <spronk> yuuuck
96: [02:20:40] <spronk> just like drinking from a real nipple
97: [02:20:42] <spronk> :|
98: [02:20:54] <antmas> can you reuse template loops in the same template?
99: [02:21:04] <spronk> ..eh?
100: [02:21:08] <antmas> like
101: [02:21:41] <antmas> I want to grab a field from a DO I'm looping over and use it outside of the loop, but based on whether it is First or Last in that loop
102: [02:22:19] <antmas> or, can I just use the same loop twice?
103: [02:23:30] <antmas> yes, you can use it twice
104: [02:23:37] <antmas> carry on everyone, nothing to see here
105: [02:24:19] <Colin[pi]> lol
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107: [02:31:20] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3.0.6-rc2 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/UfqJL9-ay1A/3Ltb-eu1TSQJ
108: [02:31:47] <irogue> wat r u doin ss-helper
109: [02:32:35] <helenclarko> 2013!
110: [02:32:49] <helenclarko> Thanks SS-Helper!
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112: [02:34:07] <muskie9> was just gonna say, is that still supported now that 3.2 is officially released?
113: [02:37:40] <muskie9> or what's the EOL for versions now?
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115: [02:46:21] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 2.4.12 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/WckJVz7BS7E/qy4kfD2XS0sJ
116: [02:46:25] <Colin[pi]> lol
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118: [02:47:10] <muskie9> is ss-helper a time machine?! lol
119: [02:48:01] <helenclarko> ss-helper is a basterd that has no time for anyone unless they are new.
120: [02:48:27] <helenclarko> An now sees to bring up the past!
121: [02:48:46] <irogue> fire alarm testing probably just lost silverstripe 25 hours of productivity
122: [02:48:46] <helenclarko> seems*
123: [02:50:21] <Colin[pi]> irogue: ?
124: [02:52:12] <spronk> lol
125: [02:52:13] <irogue> Colin[pi]: we were warned they'd be testing the alarms at 15:30, so from like 15:20 onwards everyone was busy preparing themselves for loud noises rather than working
126: [02:52:54] <DanaeNZ> or you could put your headphones in?
127: [02:53:04] <irogue> DanaeNZ: thats how many of us prepared for loud noises :P
128: [02:53:37] <irogue> and then it was a huge letdown, barely audible, and we were all mocking it on slack
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130: [02:53:45] <irogue> and then suddenly THE REAL ALARM that was loud as fuck
131: [02:53:46] <spronk> lol
132: [02:53:57] <Colin[pi]> haha
133: [02:54:00] <irogue> proceeded by another 10 minutes of "what the fuck" in slack
134: [02:54:13] <irogue> *followed by
135: [02:54:26] <helenclarko> http://i.imgur.com/EWFzV.gif
136: [02:54:33] <irogue> so about 30 minutes of not actually doing work * 50 people in the office = 25 hours of lost productivity :P
137: [02:54:47] <Colin[pi]> lol
138: [03:00:21] <Colin[pi]> irogue: you just reminded me of something from the office where I used to work
139: [03:00:28] <Colin[pi]> one time we had this MASSIVE storm
140: [03:00:37] <Colin[pi]> heaps of hail and huge quantities of rain
141: [03:00:50] <Colin[pi]> anyway the bottom floor of the building actually flooded
142: [03:01:05] <Colin[pi]> and when I came in, there were these guys in the electrical room
143: [03:01:08] <Colin[pi]> with flashlights
144: [03:01:19] <Colin[pi]> and they are like standing ankle deep in water
145: [03:01:27] <Colin[pi]> surrounded by electrical equipment
146: [03:01:32] <Colin[pi]> and I'm like "ohh that cant be good"
147: [03:01:45] <Colin[pi]> next thing...... "BBBBBZZZZZZZZZZT" huge arc and flash
148: [03:01:56] <Colin[pi]> and they just froze and looked at each other
149: [03:02:01] <Colin[pi]> then slowly backed out of the room
150: [03:02:01] <Colin[pi]> lol
151: [03:02:19] <DanaeNZ> jeebus
152: [03:02:31] <spronk> sheeyt
153: [03:02:32] <DanaeNZ> gumboots?
154: [03:02:36] <Colin[pi]> lucky they had rubber boots yeah lol
155: [03:02:41] <DanaeNZ> haha jesus
156: [03:02:51] <Colin[pi]> hopefully rubber undies as well
157: [03:04:30] <irogue> http://iforce.co.nz/i/zntl2psn.dvg.png
158: [03:05:12] <Colin[pi]> haha stig
159: [03:05:56] <muskie9> lol
160: [03:06:01] <muskie9> more guns always solves it
161: [03:06:25] <Colin[pi]> yeah, I mean, it's working well for the US
162: [03:06:52] <muskie9> ya, I'm in the US... and it's TOTALLY working... lol
163: [03:07:23] <muskie9> I have an idea... there's a fire... let's throw some gas on it... that'll make it burn out sooner right?!... sound logic
164: [03:07:53] <Colin[pi]> I love how in AU, we had one massacre... ONE. And the govt were all... "we gonna take all of your guns" and everyone was all "K"
165: [03:08:07] <Colin[pi]> try that in the US lol
166: [03:09:03] <irogue> Colin[pi]: there were actually a few massacres within the decade in AU, but that big one was the one that resulted in gun control
167: [03:09:08] <muskie9> ya, that gets brought up here and people freak.. cause it's in the constitution and what not
168: [03:09:12] <irogue> and zero since
169: [03:09:29] <muskie9> it's a mess
170: [03:10:12] <DanaeNZ> 'Murica
171: [03:10:30] <Colin[pi]> irogue: well we had a few smaller ones before and since
172: [03:10:36] <Colin[pi]> but nothing of that magnitude
173: [03:10:39] <muskie9> and throw in the slew of republican candidates... all 100 of them and it get's exponentially worse
174: [03:10:49] <Colin[pi]> Port Arthur was 35 deaths :\
175: [03:10:59] <irogue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA
176: [03:11:41] <Colin[pi]> The uploader has not made this video available in your country
177: [03:11:43] <Colin[pi]> lol
178: [03:11:51] <Colin[pi]> but yeah, that's a good video
179: [03:11:55] <irogue> wow, AU blocked and not NZ?
180: [03:12:03] <Colin[pi]> apparently
181: [03:12:16] <Colin[pi]> I could just fire up my vpn, but yeah I know the video you've linked :D
182: [03:12:34] <irogue> whoop-de-doo
183: [03:12:36] <irogue> :P
184: [03:12:39] <muskie9> John Oliver's had a few things to say about the US stuff in the past couple months too on his HBO show
185: [03:12:53] <irogue> yep
186: [03:13:08] <irogue> and a few things to say on the NZ flag :P
187: [03:13:13] <muskie9> yup
188: [03:13:39] <muskie9> the Fifa debacle
189: [03:14:42] <muskie9> this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGY6DqB1HX8
190: [03:15:20] <muskie9> guns aren't the problem, it's mental illness is the issue... enter facepalm here
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192: [03:16:55] <muskie9> "cray-cray"... 😞
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197: [03:39:49] <muskie9> if I have an empty ArrayList and I call $myArrayList->exists() why would it error as Fatal error: Call to a member function count() on a non-object
198: [03:40:10] <muskie9> http://puu.sh/kH9D3/004d8da4cb.png
199: [03:41:14] <muskie9> ->count() > 0 also gives the same error
200: [03:41:37] <Colin[pi]> muskie9: hmm, ArrayList seems to use count($this) to check if it has items
201: [03:41:44] <Colin[pi]> rather than count($this->items)
202: [03:41:51] <Colin[pi]> (so an array access php thing?)
203: [03:41:57] <muskie9> I take that back, exists() errors, but count == 0 works as expected
204: [03:42:12] <Colin[pi]> yeah but count uses count($this->items)
205: [03:42:34] <Colin[pi]> exists() prolly should use: return (bool) $this->count();
206: [03:42:52] <muskie9> bug?
207: [03:44:02] <muskie9> debug::show((bool) count($restaurants)); returns false
208: [03:45:40] <muskie9> ah, nvm, function calling the result of that function is the issue... carry on
209: [03:46:23] <Colin[pi]> $arr = ArrayList::create(); Debug::log($arr->exists());
210: [03:46:31] <Colin[pi]> works for me, I just get a false
211: [03:47:03] <muskie9> ya, I had a function checking ->count() on the result of that function... so ->count() on false isn't possible... dumb mistake
212: [03:47:09] <Colin[pi]> ah lol
213: [03:47:36] <Colin[pi]> yeah I was looking at the arraylist code thinking "hmm it's not calling a method on an object there"
214: [03:47:44] <Colin[pi]> i.e. "Call to a member function count() on a non-object" shouldn't happen ;P
215: [03:47:50] <muskie9> yup
216: [03:48:15] <muskie9> there's a reason for my github profile pic lol
217: [03:48:34] <irogue> hahaha
218: [03:52:10] <muskie9> from now on if I see "Call to a member function count() on a non-object" I assume it's my error lol
219: [03:52:25] <muskie9> that error was thrown in a couple places for that set of code
220: [03:52:30] <Colin[pi]> muskie9: I spent 30 mins the other day trying to figure out why my layout was not working. I eventually learned I had saved the template into Includes and not Layout.
221: [03:52:31] <Colin[pi]> >_<
222: [03:52:41] <muskie9> ouch
223: [03:52:56] <Colin[pi]> many swear words were uttered
224: [03:52:56] <muskie9> I let our front end guy handle that stuff lol
225: [03:52:57] <Colin[pi]> :D
226: [03:53:22] <muskie9> cussing is a my second language ;P
227: [03:55:06] <Colin[pi]> it's times like that when I wish SS would go "psst, dickhead, you're trying to render a layout with an include"
228: [03:55:44] <muskie9> do you use phpstorm? I have the ss addon installed, but don't think it goes that far... hints at some things though
229: [03:55:51] <irogue> Colin[pi]: i've sometimes pondered making a module that makes SS error messages way more sweary
230: [03:55:58] <Colin[pi]> irogue: lol do want
231: [03:56:02] <Colin[pi]> muskie9: I use Komodo Edit
232: [03:56:05] <muskie9> irogue +1 here
233: [03:56:45] <irogue> call it silverstripe-malcolmtucker
234: [03:56:46] <muskie9> I'll have to check that out Colin[pi], haven't heard of it
235: [03:56:58] <Colin[pi]> http://komodoide.com/komodo-edit/
236: [03:57:01] <Colin[pi]> it's good for free
237: [03:57:01] <micmania1> “require-dev”: { “siverstripe/cunt-fuck-errors”: “*” }
238: [03:57:07] <micmania1> I like it.
239: [03:57:11] <muskie9> lol micmania1
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241: [03:58:06] <DanaeNZ> home time oh thank god what a day
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243: [03:58:21] <muskie9> dependency https://github.com/shutterstock/List-of-Dirty-Naughty-Obscene-and-Otherwise-Bad-Words
244: [03:58:40] <irogue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUky4_A7Zw4
245: [04:00:09] <Colin[pi]> irogue: wow doctor who certainly changed since I was a kid
246: [04:00:18] <irogue> ^_^
247: [04:00:19] <muskie9> what is that?!
248: [04:00:29] <irogue> muskie9: The Thick of It
249: [04:00:30] <chocolatemoose> this series kind of sucks so far
250: [04:00:54] <irogue> BBC political drama
251: [04:01:18] <muskie9> I'm gonna have to check that out lol
252: [04:01:21] <irogue> gotta love british publicly-funded TV
253: [04:01:34] <Colin[pi]> picture his character there in place of House M.D.
254: [04:01:34] <Colin[pi]> lol
255: [04:01:46] <muskie9> sounds amazing lol
256: [04:01:49] <Colin[pi]> ikr?!
257: [04:01:59] <muskie9> house is timid compared to him lol
258: [04:02:35] <Colin[pi]> really though
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260: [04:02:43] <Colin[pi]> isn't this just more commonly known as "Scottish"
261: [04:02:44] <Colin[pi]> ?
262: [04:02:45] * muskie9 just wiped the lappy and upgraded to el capitan... needs to reload the vpn
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264: [04:05:29] <Colin[pi]> muskie9: when I upgraded to El Capitan, some of my iCloud Drive files were missing. Nice.
265: [04:05:53] <muskie9> that's why I don't use iCloud Drive ;)
266: [04:06:18] <Colin[pi]> muskie9: lol yeah, Apple Support actually said "do you have dropbox? maybe use dropbox"
267: [04:06:31] <muskie9> yup
268: [04:07:02] <muskie9> I only use Apple Support for hardware stuff, otherwise I assume they'll just point me else where
269: [04:07:34] <Colin[pi]> I was thinking... did they seriously just tell me not to use their own product?
270: [04:08:32] <muskie9> yup lol
271: [04:09:42] <chocolatemoose> iCloud services have been hit or miss for me
272: [04:09:45] <chocolatemoose> usually miss
273: [04:10:51] <muskie9> when an app asks if I want to sync my data via iCloud I refuse... not worth the hassle
274: [04:11:05] <Colin[pi]> chocolatemoose: yeah, I just copied a few files to it before wiping/installing, I watched them copy, progress bars finished etc.
275: [04:11:09] <Colin[pi]> reinstalled
276: [04:11:15] <Colin[pi]> opened icloud
277: [04:11:17] <Colin[pi]> not there lol
278: [04:11:19] <Colin[pi]> :(
279: [04:11:33] <Colin[pi]> not critical files, but still
280: [04:12:32] <muskie9> there was some issue w/iTunes cloud music too... some workaround fixed it, but damn, get your shit working Apple
281: [04:13:07] <Colin[pi]> dude was like "do you use time machine? should have used time machine."
282: [04:13:21] <chocolatemoose> hahaha
283: [04:13:25] <Colin[pi]> yeah but... that's no excuse for your god damn cloud drive not working
284: [04:13:37] <muskie9> shouldn'tve used our cloud backup service... that is all ... lol
285: [04:13:53] <Colin[pi]> yeah and then said "have you heard of dropbox?"
286: [04:13:53] <Colin[pi]> LOL
287: [04:14:01] <Colin[pi]> dat vote of confidence
288: [04:14:06] <muskie9> have you heard of our competitor? lol
289: [04:14:13] <muskie9> they do it much better lol
290: [04:14:14] <Colin[pi]> lol yep
291: [04:15:20] <muskie9> Apple... your cloud business... YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG http://puu.sh/kHbnE/9740be2a7c.png
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313: [05:56:16] <Zauberfisch> wmk: when are you flying?
314: [05:59:13] <wmk> so when starting a new site - should i try 3.2 or wait a bit?
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318: [06:19:41] <Zauberfisch> I am building one on 3.2 right now
319: [06:20:16] <wmk> cool. do most 3.1 modules already run?
320: [06:22:57] <Zauberfisch> yes, I can't recall having any issues with my usual modules
321: [06:23:30] <wmk> ok. so just take care about modules that use some weird sql
322: [06:23:38] <Zauberfisch> (betterbuttons, gridfieldextensions, focuspoint, display_logic, ideannotator, multivaluefield)
323: [06:24:07] <wmk> ideannotator? that one that writes the annotations at front of the file?
324: [06:24:08] <Zauberfisch> I am also using the multisites module on that site (note it's multisites not subsites)
325: [06:24:14] <Zauberfisch> wmk: yes
326: [06:25:49] <Mike123> Morning :)
327: [06:26:06] <Zauberfisch> good morning
328: [06:26:36] <wmk> hi Mike123
329: [06:26:42] <wmk> well, i wonder if fluent works on 3.2
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333: [07:16:15] <Viper-7> It's time for a break.
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340: [07:40:11] <swaiba> morning all
341: [07:50:27] <elgabbu> morning swaiba
342: [07:55:25] <ss-helper> SilverStripe gridfield multi class editor has invalid sort() column - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33075844/silverstripe-gridfield-multi-class-editor-has-invalid-sort-column
343: [08:05:51] <ss23> woah
344: [08:05:51] <ss23> shakes
345: [08:05:52] <ss23> big ones
346: [08:06:07] <Mike123> guys, i want to have a start page, which should automatically show when u enter website, it should contain language&country selection... how can i do this ?
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348: [08:10:43] <elgabbu> Mike123 ... setup a specific page type that will display this selection ... in Page_Controller init check if you have the required information ... if not redirect to said page ...
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350: [08:16:36] <swaiba> elgabbu Mike123 yeah store the locale in the session, if not set then goto the selection page
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352: [08:20:52] <Mike123> elgabbu, swaiba, thanks :) another question, how could i make so that every country would have it's own SiteTree, the the page could have Countries and Languagaes available to enter ?
353: [08:21:31] <swaiba> Mike123 you need to use a translatable module, I hear fleunt is good
354: [08:23:37] <Mike123> i know how o user translatetable but i need something more specific.. translate table lets u create many sitetrees(on each language), but i need so that each Country would have it's sitetrees, i wonder if it's possible at all
355: [08:24:20] <Mike123> swaiba, something like this http://snag.gy/mJQxC.jpg
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368: [09:25:44] <ss-helper> Pywevhpnk: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
369: [09:25:49] <Pywevhpnk> haway! The week of gloriousness is upon us!
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373: [09:33:21] <jcwacky> So, PDO: When should it be in emulated mode? And when native?
374: [09:36:33] <wmk> Pywevhpnk, yup
375: [09:40:53] <swaiba> Pywevhpnk woop woop
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377: [09:46:19] <kinglozzer> jcwacky: Native, always native
378: [09:46:29] <kinglozzer> As far as I know, emulated mode is only there to support old database drivers
379: [09:46:51] <kinglozzer> IIRC it just means that you can use the same API PHP-side, but it gets converted to a regular SQL query at the database level
380: [09:50:51] <jcwacky> kinglozzer: Ok, thanks. So do I need to do something to hide these warnings: http://spdr.me/wY7g (SilverStripe 3.2) - “CHECK TABLE command disabled for PDO in native mode”
381: [09:52:57] <kinglozzer> jcwacky: No, you can ignore them, they're a bit annoying as they're repeated so many times...
382: [09:53:51] <kinglozzer> jcwacky: ?quiet=1 I think should hide them
383: [09:53:55] <kinglozzer> :P
384: [09:54:12] <jcwacky> lol, ok, thanks for confirming, I’ll put up with them for now! :P
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387: [10:29:18] <bucketface> hi guys, would appreciate some help if anyone's around. I have a function that returns json of a Region DataObject. Region has_many Districts, and Districts has_many Suburbs. I cannot figure out how to make use of JSONDataFormatter to populate these relationship fields so that I have a complete nested json of Regions -> Districts -> Suburbs
388: [10:29:40] <bucketface> is it just something I should do manually maybe?
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390: [10:31:17] <ss-helper> bucketface_: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
391: [10:31:54] <swaiba> bucketface I'd do it manually, but that isn't a definitively the right answer :)
392: [10:32:32] <bucketface_> ok that's good sanity check info, thank you man
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394: [10:35:10] <bucketface_> whats a way to populate relationships in a DataList?
395: [10:37:10] <swaiba> which relationship type bucketface_ ? has_one, manymany?
396: [10:37:21] <bucketface_> has_many
397: [10:37:25] <swaiba> seems like reviewing the ORM docs / video lessons might be good
398: [10:38:14] <swaiba> for has_many, best to se teh other end (the has_one) by saying $record->HasOneID = $obj->ID
399: [10:38:31] <bucketface_> yeah you're definitely right. I'm a node.js guy but just doing this stub task. I get a DataList of my objects but its lazy loaded so when Im converting it to array for serialisation so those fields arent serialised with their children data
400: [10:40:13] <bucketface_> children data being Districts objects as they are the has_many ><
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402: [10:42:10] <kinglozzer> Hrm, so to enable PDO you can do this in _ss_environment.php - define('SS_DATABASE_CLASS', 'MySQLPDODatabase');
403: [10:42:24] <kinglozzer> Trouble is, that class obviously doesn't exist in 3.1
404: [10:43:05] <kinglozzer> Can anyone think of a way around that if 3.1 + 3.2 sites share an env file? I can't see any way of detecting which version is installed :/
405: [10:43:16] <kinglozzer> class_exists() doesn't work because it's so early in the request
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407: [11:25:23] <kinglozzer> Oh, it can just go in _config.php, duh >.<
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410: [11:57:24] <Mike123> guys, maybe someone has used one o theses e-commerce modules http://ss-shop.org and http://swipestripe.com ? which is better ?
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412: [12:14:28] <wmk> Mike123, you'll hear the answer at friday, 11am https://stripecon.eu/#section-schedule
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415: [12:28:39] <lerni_> wmk Mike123 but it'll be more about https://github.com/burnbright/silverstripe-shop
416: [12:29:24] <wmk> lerni_, cool ;)
417: [12:29:39] <lerni_> ah sorry it is this module
418: [12:30:54] <wmk> ?
419: [12:32:04] <lerni_> first thougt Mike123 was refering silverstripe-ecommerce.com
420: [12:35:59] <wmk> yup. ss-shop is burnbright
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435: [15:04:42] <Pywevhpnk> wooooo!
436: [15:05:08] <Pywevhpnk> successful connection to AD realm, and authentication through apache with AD, mint.
437: [15:05:30] * Pywevhpnk bounces around going *oonce oonce, doof doof*
438: [15:11:44] <kinglozzer> gj Pywevhpnk ;D
439: [15:11:50] <kinglozzer> unenviable task :P
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448: [15:38:25] <cupcake> ola amigos o/
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450: [15:39:44] <swaiba> yo cupcake
451: [15:40:06] <cupcake> howz every1 ? :)
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455: [16:00:43] <swaiba> I think "a bit quiet" describes it cupcake
456: [16:00:49] <swaiba> but also excited for stripecon!
457: [16:08:26] <Pywevhpnk> proper excited me like
458: [16:08:33] <Pywevhpnk> 'lo cupcake
459: [16:08:42] <Pywevhpnk> bit late in the day, but yes, very quiet.
460: [16:08:52] <Pywevhpnk> has been for some time now.
461: [16:09:01] <Pywevhpnk> :(
462: [16:09:17] <Pywevhpnk> But that's ok, means I get more done I guess... I guess.
463: [16:09:41] <Pywevhpnk> ta kinglozzer, it's actually pretty simple once you know a bit more than nothing about it :P
464: [16:09:49] <Pywevhpnk> how all the bits fit together like.
465: [16:10:51] <Pywevhpnk> Joining the server to the domain & letting users log in with no local account was the easy part. Getting apache to work was ... time consuming. But turns out it's all of about 6 commands and 3 lines of config once you've read enough info on the subject :P
466: [16:11:50] <Pywevhpnk> surprisingly, microsoft provide tools on their end to make it that easy. Create a ticket on the domain controller itself for MIT kerberos, and just copy that onto the *nix box for apache to use. :>
467: [16:12:48] <Pywevhpnk> anyway, tomorrow's another day. Gotta figure out some way to get to birmingham without my cunt boss killing me in his car (drives like a complete twat)
468: [16:16:28] <swaiba> oooooo Pywevhpnk AD = Active directory?
469: [16:17:37] <kinglozzer> So, who's doing a lightning talk?
470: [16:17:52] <kinglozzer> I haven't seen/heard of anyone, so I'm hoping that *someone* will :P
471: [16:19:53] <terryapodaca> How do I show a $has_one (year) in the $summary_fields of the datagrid?
472: [16:20:41] <kinglozzer> terryapodaca: summary_fields = array('RelationName.FieldNAme'
473: [16:20:44] <kinglozzer> oops
474: [16:20:51] <terryapodaca> I've got a $db field for ShowName, that $has_one = ShowYear
475: [16:20:52] <kinglozzer> array('RelationName.FieldName' => 'Label');
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477: [16:22:35] <kinglozzer> bb all
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480: [16:25:48] <swaiba> Pywevhpnk - Pywevhpnk - Pywevhpnk - ?
481: [16:26:12] <swaiba> I'll have to add something to remind me to talk to you about AD if you are gone now and away tomorrow...
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488: [17:14:05] <terryapodaca> can I add more than one field to a DropdownField in the CMS?
489: [17:15:24] <terryapodaca> for instance, I have a ShowCategory that has 1 ShowType, but there could be more than one of the same ShowType(s) because they were created in a different year
490: [17:16:20] <terryapodaca> so when I click to Create New Category, I need the ShowType DropdownField to hold the ShowType.Name and the ShowType Year.
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496: [17:47:34] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3.0.6-rc2 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/UfqJL9-ay1A/3Ltb-eu1TSQJ
497: [18:02:35] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 2.4.12 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/WckJVz7BS7E/qy4kfD2XS0sJ
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510: [19:17:42] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3.0.6-rc2 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/UfqJL9-ay1A/3Ltb-eu1TSQJ
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515: [19:32:43] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 2.4.12 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/WckJVz7BS7E/qy4kfD2XS0sJ
516: [19:36:26] <helenclarko> ss-helper, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!
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519: [19:43:29] <helenclarko> what is the difference between updatecmsfields and getcmsfields? Does updateCMSFields only work on DataExtension or something?
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521: [19:56:01] <cmcramer> helenclarko I believe that's the case- updateCMSFields for DataExtension and getCMSFields for DataObject
522: [19:56:38] <helenclarko> cmcramer, Yeah, that looks to be how I am using them.
523: [19:57:09] <helenclarko> But I think getCMSFields works on DataExtension too.
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526: [19:59:27] <helenclarko> I've always used updateCMSFields, purely because your DataExtention is adding fields to an existing dataobject.
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529: [20:01:40] <cmcramer> helenclarko according to the API getCMSFields doesn't exist on DataExtension.
530: [20:02:27] <helenclarko> cmcramer, Well that explains why I'm using updateCMSFields on DataExtension then haha.
531: [20:02:40] <cmcramer> helenclarko :)
532: [20:02:46] <helenclarko> cmcramer, Thanks for clearing that up.
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534: [20:03:10] <darjus01> hi all hoe to check in controler if product has image if (isset($item->Product()->Image())) not working
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536: [20:05:18] <cmcramer> darjus01 Did you try if ($item->Product()->Image()) or if($item->Product()->Image()->FileName) ?
537: [20:08:15] <darjus01> not working
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540: [20:09:01] <cmcramer> darjus01 if($item->Product()->Image()->FileName != '')
541: [20:09:11] <AlphaCactus> How is your image related to the class? has_one = array( 'Image' => 'Image' )?
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544: [20:09:25] <darjus01> this worked just now checked thx :)
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547: [20:10:17] <DanaeNZ> good morning all
548: [20:10:25] <DanaeNZ> o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ o/ \o o/ o/ o/
549: [20:10:44] <helenclarko> \o/
550: [20:10:44] <chocolatemoose> o/
551: [20:10:50] <chocolatemoose> that's quite a flock of fans!
552: [20:12:35] <helenclarko> \o/
553: [20:12:38] <helenclarko> |
554: [20:13:03] <helenclarko> aww it wont let me post his legs!
555: [20:13:10] <DanaeNZ> double slash
556: [20:13:13] <DanaeNZ> \o/
557: [20:13:16] <DanaeNZ>
558: [20:13:17] <helenclarko> / \
559: [20:13:19] <DanaeNZ> LOL
560: [20:13:27] <helenclarko> YAY!
561: [20:13:27] <DanaeNZ> there was a boddy there
562: [20:13:34] <DanaeNZ> it disappeared for some reason
563: [20:13:38] <DanaeNZ> pft close enough
564: [20:13:40] <DanaeNZ> nailed it
565: [20:13:44] <helenclarko> okay everyone let me post my yay man.
566: [20:13:48] <helenclarko> \o/
567: [20:13:51] <helenclarko> |
568: [20:13:55] <helenclarko> / \
569: [20:13:57] <helenclarko> YAY!
570: [20:14:01] <DanaeNZ> ahahaha
571: [20:14:30] <DanaeNZ> \o/
572: [20:14:31] <DanaeNZ> (.)
573: [20:14:31] <DanaeNZ> / \
574: [20:14:38] <DanaeNZ> haha
575: [20:14:40] <DanaeNZ> fatty
576: [20:14:46] <helenclarko> oh
577: [20:15:05] <helenclarko> \o/
578: [20:15:08] <helenclarko> |
579: [20:15:14] <helenclarko> /|\
580: [20:15:19] <helenclarko> nope
581: [20:15:27] <helenclarko> damn
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584: [20:22:19] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
585: [20:22:33] <DanaeNZ> I was like, "what you gave him three leg.....oh"
586: [20:22:33] <antmas> morning all o/
587: [20:22:42] <DanaeNZ> antmas: \o \o \o \ o\ o
588: [20:22:45] <DanaeNZ> haha
589: [20:22:54] <DanaeNZ> the guy at the end is patting that one guy's ehad
590: [20:22:56] <DanaeNZ> head*
591: [20:23:04] <jules0x> ha
592: [20:23:05] <antmas> anyone good at laying out <table>s?
593: [20:23:41] <DanaeNZ> I'm good at laying out the land
594: [20:23:41] <helenclarko> eww tables
595: [20:23:50] <antmas> I know it's possible, but I can't get this to fucking work again :P http://imgur.com/MPR0vee
596: [20:23:54] <helenclarko> morning antmas o/
597: [20:24:00] <antmas> helenclarko: o/
598: [20:26:48] <antmas> basically I need 1. to have it's own unique height and have it not affect the cells on the left
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602: [20:29:18] <helenclarko> antmas, http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/561c181082765
603: [20:29:23] <helenclarko> yes or no
604: [20:29:43] <antmas> hmmmm
605: [20:30:56] <antmas> helenclarko: bingo
606: [20:31:00] <antmas> helenclarko: thanks bro :D
607: [20:31:20] <antmas> https://jsfiddle.net/31zmgh6j/
608: [20:31:40] <helenclarko> All good. I once loved tables. then responsive design became a thing.
609: [20:31:46] <antmas> rowspan is what I was after
610: [20:32:10] <helenclarko> I always get mixed up with rowspan and colspan.
611: [20:32:10] <antmas> helenclarko: we do a shit load of data input/output apps here so I still use tables a lot :/
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613: [20:32:33] <helenclarko> antmas, ah, well then. carry on!
614: [20:32:54] * antmas carries on super hard
615: [20:33:15] <DanaeNZ> haha antmas calm down
616: [20:33:35] <DanaeNZ> aww yiss come to me android 6.0
617: [20:33:41] <DanaeNZ> my phone body is reqdy
618: [20:35:08] <chocolatemoose> I have to wait for an unofficial build :(
619: [20:35:50] <helenclarko> My phone doesnt officially support 5.1, but that doesnt stop me from installing custom builds and crying because its slow.
620: [20:38:47] <helenclarko> I want a new phone, but I also need health insurance for next year.
621: [20:39:39] <chocolatemoose> I'm on CM12 (5.1) but not sure when there will be a build of 6.0 for a Moto G first gen :p
622: [20:39:56] <DanaeNZ> nexus 5
623: [20:39:58] <DanaeNZ> aw yiss
624: [20:40:17] <helenclarko> HOw is the Nexus?
625: [20:40:28] <helenclarko> I've never had one.
626: [20:42:19] <antmas> Nexus are good phones - some people say slightly underpowered but you never notice
627: [20:42:41] <antmas> mostly because they don't have all the bloatware like the flagships
628: [20:42:46] <chocolatemoose> I think my next phone will be a nexus or moto x
629: [20:42:57] <antmas> I have no idea about the camera or whatever though
630: [20:43:01] <darjus01> I have made Decimal(22,2) datatype and now how just add decimal field, currency is not it, its add curency near field I need only value
631: [20:43:17] <DanaeNZ> front camera noice
632: [20:43:22] <antmas> chocolatemoose: I really want the Droid Turbo 2 - but getting phones like that in the country is real tough
633: [20:43:27] <DanaeNZ> it noice all round
634: [20:43:40] <DanaeNZ> no bloatware but lends itself well to custom rom
635: [20:44:27] <antmas> yeah
636: [20:44:39] <helenclarko> antmas, I find Aliexpress pretty good for that.
637: [20:45:06] <antmas> helenclarko: really? I can't help but find alliexpress dodgy af - even though I've used it :P
638: [20:45:30] <helenclarko> antmas, most sellers will mark items as gift and put stupid values on items like $50
639: [20:45:45] <antmas> mm
640: [20:45:59] <helenclarko> just to pass NZ customs.
641: [20:46:05] <antmas> lol
642: [20:46:09] <helenclarko> so yeah, dodgy AF
643: [20:46:53] <helenclarko> I think the biggest problem is sending items back.
644: [20:47:50] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3.0.6-rc2 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/UfqJL9-ay1A/3Ltb-eu1TSQJ
645: [20:48:08] <antmas> helenclarko: yeah, only real reason I don't want to spend a bunch of money on there
646: [20:48:19] <antmas> that and when they advertise the word 'Genuine'
647: [20:48:20] <antmas> :P
648: [20:49:09] <helenclarko> haha, that word.
649: [20:49:43] <helenclarko> I dont even trust that word on trademe.
650: [20:51:12] <antmas> it's basically the same as saying 'this is real, trust me, it's an actual thing, I swear'
651: [20:51:14] <antmas> or
652: [20:51:20] <antmas> 'please don't deport me'
653: [20:51:21] <antmas> lol
654: [20:52:19] <helenclarko> or "this item is not hot"
655: [20:53:08] <antmas> I remember years ago, when I was like 15
656: [20:53:13] <antmas> my Dad got me this laptop
657: [20:53:24] <antmas> from some insurance thing gone bad
658: [20:53:37] <antmas> first time I'd heard 'you could cook an egg on this thing'
659: [20:54:00] <helenclarko> I had a friend who sold me a stolen laptop (I didnt know it was stolen at the time), when he got busted I returned it to him. Now any time he tries to sell me anthing its always "It's not hot bro!"
660: [20:54:02] <antmas> so I'd tell it to everyone I showed the laptop to thinking it meant something TOTALLY different lol
661: [20:54:08] <antmas> they would look at me lik o.O
662: [20:54:47] <antmas> or 'it fell off the back of a truck' LO
663: [20:55:14] <helenclarko> "looks fine to me, truck must have been going really slow"
664: [20:56:09] <antmas> haha
665: [20:56:16] <DanaeNZ> yay update finished
666: [20:56:24] <DanaeNZ> the easter egg this time is a flappy bird game
667: [20:56:32] <antmas> DanaeNZ: 5.1?
668: [20:56:46] <DanaeNZ> 6.0
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670: [20:57:02] <antmas> android 6 is out?
671: [20:57:03] <antmas> wtf
672: [20:57:16] * DanaeNZ parties
673: [20:57:18] <DanaeNZ> yeah man
674: [20:57:55] <helenclarko> DanaeNZ, easter egg was flappybird in 5.1
675: [20:57:55] <antmas> I doubt for the galaxy s3 though :P
676: [20:57:56] <DanaeNZ> oh dammit i forgot to call the internet yesterday
677: [20:58:01] <helenclarko> or flappy android
678: [20:58:06] <antmas> I do need to update from 4.4
679: [20:58:07] <DanaeNZ> helenclarko: oh well they lazy fuckers then
680: [21:02:51] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 2.4.12 Security Release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/WckJVz7BS7E/qy4kfD2XS0sJ
681: [21:03:16] <helenclarko> ss-helper, STAHP!
682: [21:04:12] <antmas> where do I get the latest stable cyanogenmod for my phone?
683: [21:04:25] <antmas> the download filtering doesn't really seem help :P
684: [21:09:15] <helenclarko> http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=i9300
685: [21:09:23] <helenclarko> Do they not do CM12?
686: [21:09:40] <helenclarko> I have an unofficial cm12
687: [21:09:49] <antmas> not according to that
688: [21:10:15] <antmas> I guess the newest (stable) one on there is the link to 'Download Latest Release' up top there?
689: [21:11:02] <helenclarko> I would say so.
690: [21:11:36] <antmas> weird that it doesn't come down automatically in the 'Software Update' section on my phone
691: [21:11:44] <antmas> not normally would under cyanogenmod
692: [21:11:51] <antmas> maybe they stopped that
693: [21:11:58] <darjus01> how to make one page config page like site config? is any tutorial?
694: [21:14:08] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
695: [21:16:29] <antmas> is there a way to only show part of an html page in an iframe - rather than the whole thing?
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699: [21:29:15] <novaweb> Bassheads: https://soundcloud.com/noisia/noisia-radio-s01e16
700: [21:29:24] <novaweb> #rumandass
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702: [21:35:05] <antmas> novaweb: noisia is pretty good
703: [21:35:23] <antmas> anyone play the Battlefront beta while it was up?
704: [21:37:21] <helenclarko> antmas, I did an iframe thing with anchors.
705: [21:37:36] <antmas> helenclarko: so auto scroll etc?
706: [21:38:09] <helenclarko> It just sets the iframe to a location on the page.
707: [21:39:05] <novaweb> @antmas, yah ha.
708: [21:40:50] <DanaeNZ> Noisia is amazing
709: [21:43:18] <helenclarko> antmas, actually I did this. http://pastebin.com/XjQm2sgC and I'm not proud of it.
710: [21:43:33] <antmas> lol
711: [21:43:34] <antmas> :D
712: [21:44:28] <helenclarko> that is why I dont like iframes. I just loaded another webpage within a webpage.
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714: [21:47:00] <helenclarko> antmas, if its just text and stuff, that method should be fine.
715: [21:47:42] <helenclarko> It's "Genuine".
716: [21:49:35] <Colin[pi]> antmas: o/
717: [21:50:07] <Colin[pi]> antmas: can you load it via ajax? cause it's quite easy if so
718: [21:50:27] <antmas> I think so
719: [21:50:36] <antmas> this page I'm iframing is fairly complex
720: [21:51:48] <Colin[pi]> if you can ajax it, I would set up a div (perhaps with overflow-y: auto), and use like: $( "#div" ).load( "path/to/whatever #otherDiv" );
721: [21:54:02] <antmas> mm I'll try that
722: [21:54:06] <Colin[pi]> but I think that will only work if the stuff being pulled in via ajax is on the same domain
723: [21:54:22] <antmas> basically, I'm loading like 90% of the page, just not the menu and up
724: [21:54:27] <Colin[pi]> ah k
725: [21:54:30] <antmas> like basically 'content' only
726: [21:54:37] <Colin[pi]> but yeah, iframes are icky
727: [21:54:40] <antmas> mm
728: [21:54:44] <Colin[pi]> I try to avoid as much as poss
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731: [21:57:04] <antmas> mmm dat factory android reset
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733: [21:59:23] <Colin[pi]> god dammit razer
734: [21:59:27] <Colin[pi]> software updated
735: [21:59:33] <Colin[pi]> lost all of my custom dpi settings
736: [22:00:23] <antmas> boooo, I never install razer software
737: [22:00:48] <irogue> razer seem to update their software so freakin often
738: [22:01:02] <irogue> getting so sick of the "there is an update for razer synapse" popup
739: [22:01:08] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I think it's the only way I can use the dpi changing buttons though
740: [22:01:20] <Colin[pi]> irogue: ikr? like every 2 days
741: [22:02:02] <antmas> Colin[pi]: mmm I guess, I don't bother with DPI switches though
742: [22:02:15] <antmas> I just turn it down in game
743: [22:02:25] <irogue> I have the software cos I want to be able to bind my macro keys
744: [22:02:43] <Colin[pi]> at least they fixed the "keyboard stuck on login" bug, used to be if I hit enter after putting my password, it would get stuck... and just keep repeating enter non stop until I unplugged the keyboard
745: [22:02:52] <irogue> much preferred the Logitech or SteelSeries software though, the Razer software has fuckall features and nonstop updates
746: [22:03:04] <Colin[pi]> mm
747: [22:03:23] <irogue> doubt I'll buy razer again
748: [22:04:13] <Colin[pi]> same, though they've always had that kinda "dubious quality" thing about them
749: [22:04:23] <helenclarko> irogue, Even logitech has gone downhill
750: [22:04:50] <irogue> Colin[pi]: this keyboard (blackwidow tournament stealth) is my first razer product
751: [22:04:55] <helenclarko> and they are now logi with a shitty new logo
752: [22:05:06] <irogue> helenclarko: agreed. I need a new mouse, will almost certainly be a steelseries
753: [22:06:11] <helenclarko> irogue, Yea, I'm happy with steelseries at the moment. I only have a laptop with built in steelseries keyboard, but the software tools for it are awesome.
754: [22:06:19] <irogue> helenclarko: I feel like Logitech peaked around the G510
755: [22:06:31] <antmas> corsair are pretty good now
756: [22:06:34] <helenclarko> irogue, I HAVE!
757: [22:06:54] <irogue> helenclarko: I've been using mostly SteelSeries mice for years, and will only ever use their mousepads
758: [22:07:03] <irogue> tried a razer mousepad. was horrid.
759: [22:07:39] <irogue> steelseries keyboards are fucking expensive tho, which is why I decided to get a razer. I regret that decision tho.
760: [22:07:43] <antmas> I find the opposite with mouse pads
761: [22:07:44] <helenclarko> irogue, but even that keyboard had issues. I had to firmware upgrade because I couldnt use WASD and arrow keys at the same time (Rugby Challenge 2)
762: [22:08:26] <helenclarko> irogue, 510 logitech im talking about.
763: [22:09:23] <irogue> helenclarko: huh, interesting. I play a lot of Blur which requires both at the same time, maybe I've just kept my firmware up to date
764: [22:09:44] <irogue> antmas: you like soft or hard?
765: [22:09:47] <irogue> ;)
766: [22:09:50] <helenclarko> Because its a gaming keyboard it would lock off one side of the keyboard.
767: [22:10:00] <antmas> irogue: medium :D
768: [22:11:09] <irogue> right, that might be why you're the opposite. I like hard pads, which razer insist on doing in aluminium
769: [22:11:29] <irogue> which is not a pleasant surface for a sweaty wrist
770: [22:12:11] <antmas> mm, I prefer their fabric ones that are foldable - but not like sponge soft
771: [22:12:18] <antmas> and control > speed
772: [22:12:57] <irogue> this remains my fav mousepad: http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Professional-Gaming-Mouse-Black/dp/B002J9G5AE
773: [22:14:16] <irogue> hard plastic, textured for smooth movement without the mouse just sliding off the fucking mousepad, grippy rubber underside so it stays in one place on the desk
774: [22:14:19] <irogue> and cheap as chips
775: [22:14:51] <antmas> how is it on the teflon mouse feet?
776: [22:15:09] <helenclarko> irogue, http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Keyboards/G510-Firmware-update/td-p/570732
777: [22:15:26] <helenclarko> irogue, if you wanted to know about it.
778: [22:16:53] <antmas> this is what I want http://www.corsair.com/en/vengeance-k95-rgb-fully-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-red
779: [22:16:57] <antmas> but so pricey :O
780: [22:17:39] <irogue> i'm giving one of these away at echolan this weekend: https://steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-m800
781: [22:17:44] <irogue> which makes me sad cos I want it myself :P
782: [22:18:10] <antmas> that looks ugly as, but I hear it performs amazingly
783: [22:18:38] <antmas> also that space bar is just weird :P
784: [22:19:31] <Colin[pi]> lol
785: [22:19:31] <novaweb> APACHE WHY YOU NO WORKYYYYYYYY
786: [22:19:38] <Colin[pi]> space bar like a drive in theater
787: [22:20:07] <helenclarko> Never miss a space again!
788: [22:22:54] <antmas> the right hand side of this space bar is completely worn compared to the left
789: [22:23:02] <antmas> I must never use my left thumb for the space
790: [22:23:26] <chocolatemoose> it's more like a space box
791: [22:23:37] <Colin[pi]> antmas: the lettering on my blackwidow started rubbing off within a week of purchase :\
792: [22:23:53] <antmas> woah really?
793: [22:24:19] <antmas> they need to just be seethrough keycutouts and just rely on back lighting
794: [22:24:56] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah, I can still see it, but my WSAD keys are pretty worn
795: [22:26:46] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I've almost got my dpi back to what I think it was before... you know how when it's *just* out from what you're used to? you move the mouse and it overshoots things by the smallest margin lol
796: [22:26:54] <Colin[pi]> so annoying
797: [22:28:53] <antmas> lol yeah
798: [22:29:11] <antmas> although my mouse sensitivity is usually down really low, but middle-ish on desktop
799: [22:29:43] * Colin[pi] misses his Logitech mx518
800: [22:31:22] <Colin[pi]> antmas: you on Win10 for everything now?
801: [22:31:37] <antmas> yup
802: [22:31:38] <antmas> :D
803: [22:31:42] <Colin[pi]> liking it?
804: [22:31:45] <antmas> haven't had any issues whatsoever
805: [22:31:50] <Colin[pi]> nice
806: [22:31:56] <Colin[pi]> I will upgrade this box over xmas
807: [22:31:56] <antmas> APART from OneDrive trying really hard to be on my computer
808: [22:32:10] <antmas> yeah I love it, performance is up on 8.1
809: [22:32:13] <antmas> easier to use
810: [22:32:13] <Colin[pi]> lol
811: [22:32:15] <antmas> search is amazing
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815: [22:34:11] <AlphaCactus> Before Win10 I never had theproblem that the start menu doesn't open sometimes and I have to reboot to get it to open.
816: [22:37:06] <helenclarko> Ive had issues with the context menu closing every now and then. It will randomly close while im coming down to click "send to..."
817: [22:38:15] <helenclarko> It could be something in the context menu though. like tortoiseSVN or ESET
818: [22:38:51] <antmas> mm possibly
819: [22:39:26] <Colin[pi]> sounds like something is interfering with it yeah
820: [22:39:31] <antmas> I do like the notification pane too, actually seems to work
821: [22:39:32] <AlphaCactus> I wonder if that is realated to the issue where 1 to 5 seconds after I open fileexplorer the computer/library/folder list on the left refreshes and I lose my navigation position.
822: [22:45:18] <jules0x> In the CMS, I want to add a button to trigger a save without reloading the page. More specifically, I want to be able to see this button when TinyMCE is fullscreen.
823: [22:45:27] <jules0x> Any tips on how this might be achieved?
824: [22:46:13] <Colin[pi]> jules0x: js/ajax all the things
825: [22:46:21] <AlphaCactus> http://www.tinymce.com/tryit/3_x/custom_toolbar_button.php
826: [22:46:30] <jules0x> I started down the path of, Custom JS ajax posting to the EditForm method... but ran into CSRF
827: [22:47:19] <AlphaCactus> post to a different action than the form?
828: [22:48:08] <jules0x> you mean write my own save method?
829: [22:48:42] <Colin[pi]> jules0x: yeah, like, take the data itself and submit it via ajax to your own handler
830: [22:49:41] <AlphaCactus> if you are posting from TinyMCE, you only really mean to save one field anyway right?
831: [22:56:57] <jules0x> yes
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