#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 9 October 2015

All timestamps are in UTC.

1: [00:00:05] <irogue> otherwise it opens it up for vagueness - cops could claim a beer is yours when its really a passengers
2: [00:00:12] <patnelson> one of my favorite beers -- to be had on the Big Island in Hawai'i, from the Big Island Brewhaus. http://bigislandbrewhaus.com/beers/
3: [00:00:22] <patnelson> Goldan Sabbath. A delightful little tripel.
4: [00:00:39] * phalaon has joined #silverstripe
5: [00:00:46] <irogue> I live across the road from these guys http://garageproject.co.nz
6: [00:00:51] <irogue> which makes it really shit that I don't like beer
7: [00:01:15] <patnelson> bah. their "what's new" slider is broken.
8: [00:01:32] <patnelson> guys have lots of breweries out there?
9: [00:01:38] <Stomach> best beer: http://casselsbrewery.co.nz/beer/real-ale/milk-stout/
10: [00:01:40] <patnelson> i'd imagine import fees would rack up
11: [00:02:16] <irogue> patnelson: yeah, lots of both contract brewers (local companies brewing international brands on contract) and craft breweries
12: [00:02:37] * glenn-bautista1 quit (Quit: Leaving.)
13: [00:02:49] <irogue> cos yeah importing tends to be pretty pricey both with import fees and shipping costs
14: [00:02:58] <patnelson> do kiwis see american beer as like a foreign exotic type beer or do they have common sense and realize that big beer companies here taste like shit and local breweries are where it's at?
15: [00:03:12] <irogue> patnelson: the latter
16: [00:03:21] <patnelson> that's good
17: [00:03:24] <irogue> I don't know anyone who drinks U.S. beer
18: [00:03:27] * MarcGuay has joined #silverstripe
19: [00:03:29] <patnelson> too bad many americans don't realize it.
20: [00:03:42] <patnelson> also, that area looks beautiful (near the brewery)
21: [00:04:15] <patnelson> love this street art: https://goo.gl/maps/ffALZTtjNnk
22: [00:04:22] * DanaeNZ quit (Remote host closed the connection)
23: [00:04:23] <irogue> for international brands Corona is fairly popular, as are Stella Artois and Asahi
24: [00:04:34] <patnelson> y'all make 'Merica look like a third world country.
25: [00:04:57] <patnelson> Basically: Anheuser/NBEV
26: [00:05:07] <patnelson> except for Asahi, not sure who that is.
27: [00:05:20] <patnelson> ok, japanese
28: [00:06:08] <irogue> yeah Asahi own one of the big two commercial NZ breweries
29: [00:06:26] <patnelson> ugh. their usa site is entirely FLASH.
30: [00:06:29] * patnelson panics
31: [00:06:43] <patnelson> at least they used deep linking /sarcasm
32: [00:06:46] <patnelson> http://www.asahibeerusa.com/index2.php#/Alive
33: [00:07:32] <irogue> only the US site that's flash
34: [00:07:35] <irogue> http://garageproject.co.nz
35: [00:07:40] <irogue> oops https://www.asahibeer.com/brands/
36: [00:08:39] <irogue> anyways, I'm off to get a haircut
37: [00:08:43] <irogue> sorry Stomach the beard is coming off
38: [00:09:03] <patnelson> i gotta run too. deploying to prod and heading out.
39: [00:11:25] * patnelson !@##$%Q
40: [00:11:33] <patnelson> bitbucket has to go down when I wanna deploy, lol
41: [00:11:51] * DanaeNZ has joined #silverstripe
42: [00:12:17] <helenclarko> patnelson, Tell me about it. Update had just been applied and boom bitbucket goes down.
43: [00:13:55] <patnelson> yep, still offline
44: [00:14:00] <patnelson> thankfully I don't have anything urgent.
45: [00:17:28] * phalaon quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
46: [00:17:41] <Stomach> noooo
47: [00:17:45] <Stomach> irogue nooo
48: [00:19:08] * antmas has joined #silverstripe
49: [00:19:38] <patnelson> ok i'll see you neckbeards later.
50: [00:19:55] * patnelson quit (Quit: Leaving.)
51: [00:20:00] <helenclarko> Not if mine sees you first.
52: [00:20:06] <helenclarko> DAMN!
53: [00:20:27] <helenclarko> You win this time Patnelson!
54: [00:20:31] <antmas> urgh, hurry up afternoon!
55: [00:21:27] <helenclarko> I'm sad now! I have to pay interest on my student loan next year while im in Canada. GAHY!@
56: [00:21:45] * glenn-bautista has joined #silverstripe
57: [00:21:47] <antmas> pwnd
58: [00:22:21] <antmas> is it still school holidays?
59: [00:22:44] <zippy> last day today
60: [00:23:21] <helenclarko> MMMMHHHHMMMM
61: [00:23:35] <antmas> yay, much less chance of skitteling jwalking kids on the way home \o/
62: [00:24:14] * spronk quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
63: [00:24:25] <antmas> spwonk o/
64: [00:24:29] <antmas> oh wait
65: [00:24:31] <antmas> fail
66: [00:24:33] <antmas> ;__;
67: [00:26:55] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
68: [00:32:11] <helenclarko> Lol
69: [00:33:58] * helenclarko kicks things
70: [00:33:59] * aneesha has joined #silverstripe
71: [00:34:22] <helenclarko> Stupid student loan!
72: [00:34:31] * helenclarko attempts to flip table.
73: [00:35:08] <helenclarko> helenclarko rubs weak little arms.
74: [00:35:14] <antmas> how big is the loan?
75: [00:35:14] <helenclarko> Thanks Obama!
76: [00:35:31] <helenclarko> less than 10,000
77: [00:35:37] <helenclarko> but still
78: [00:36:26] <antmas> pffft
79: [00:36:28] <antmas> that's nothing :P
80: [00:36:37] <helenclarko> I know.
81: [00:36:55] <helenclarko> Could pay that off in my sleep right?
82: [00:37:29] <helenclarko> BUUUUUUUTTTT INTEREST!
83: [00:37:31] <antmas> mine's like, 26k I think
84: [00:37:45] <helenclarko> Oh sheit!
85: [00:37:56] <helenclarko> Okay I'll stop whining now.
86: [00:38:05] <helenclarko> Jesus!
87: [00:38:07] <antmas> :P
88: [00:38:16] <antmas> dude, compared to most people even that is pretty low
89: [00:38:27] <antmas> most people I studied with are close to double that
90: [00:38:27] <helenclarko> I think mine was up around that.
91: [00:38:39] <antmas> helenclarko: when did you graduate?
92: [00:38:54] <helenclarko> Oh yeah, I know people with 50,000 loans.
93: [00:39:11] <helenclarko> 2010 I think?
94: [00:39:34] <antmas> mm mine was early 2012
95: [00:40:20] <antmas> hmmm netflix raising price again
96: [00:40:34] <helenclarko> Yea, Diploma in ICT...
97: [00:41:52] <antmas> mm I did 3 year degree in IT
98: [00:42:08] <antmas> 3.3 years because I didn't want to spend a summer still studying :P
99: [00:44:30] <helenclarko> Yea I did 3 years from 2008/2009. Maybe I finished in 2011. 2011 sounds better, I started work here in 2011.
100: [00:45:10] <antmas> mm I worked in gfx design during and after studying, been here since about may 2012
101: [00:45:21] <antmas> wait, may 2013
102: [00:45:26] <antmas> i don't even remember
103: [00:46:46] * zlinux_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
104: [00:46:50] <helenclarko> antmas, Every year just merges with the last.
105: [00:47:09] <antmas> yup
106: [00:49:39] <helenclarko> But, yea. Everything else I've learnt online with web courses, purely because I don want anymore student loan.
107: [00:50:12] <antmas> mm
108: [00:50:35] <antmas> I didn't even major in web dev :P
109: [00:50:49] <antmas> I'm a software dev, web shit is still weird to me
110: [00:51:26] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
111: [00:53:22] <helenclarko> Yea, I went all software. But I am far more interested in Web now. Maybe thats because I spend too much time doing software here at work and its not fun anymore.
112: [00:55:26] <helenclarko> Maybe its the quick reward of having a working website to look at.
113: [00:55:30] <helenclarko> maybe its maybelline
114: [00:59:34] <irogue> [13:17:49] <Stomach> irogue nooo
115: [00:59:36] <irogue> it is done
116: [00:59:39] <irogue> down to a #1
117: [01:00:29] <Stomach> :(
118: [01:01:32] <irogue> walked into the office to a chorus of "WHAT THE"
119: [01:01:43] <DanaeNZ> irogue: lol what
120: [01:02:02] <irogue> DanaeNZ: my beard r gone
121: [01:02:12] <irogue> it was getting close to Stomach's
122: [01:02:13] <antmas> irogue: do you look 12 now?
123: [01:02:45] <irogue> antmas: I left it at a #1, so more like 16
124: [01:03:01] <antmas> mmm I go clean shaven like, twice per year
125: [01:03:11] <antmas> otherwise I have no chin and I look like I'm 8
126: [01:03:16] <Stomach> hahahaha close to mine
127: [01:03:17] <Stomach> ahahaha
128: [01:03:18] <Stomach> cute
129: [01:03:22] <antmas> LOL
130: [01:04:08] <DanaeNZ> irogue: holy shit
131: [01:04:16] <helenclarko> If I wasnt balding I would look sooooo young (I tell myself this everyday)!
132: [01:04:21] <helenclarko> :(
133: [01:04:37] <Stomach> if I didnt have a beard I am 12
134: [01:04:46] <Stomach> I still get ID'd even with the beard
135: [01:04:52] <antmas> mm
136: [01:05:05] <antmas> me too
137: [01:05:22] <antmas> althought I did get asked if I was around 35 the other day ;____:
138: [01:05:37] <helenclarko> Stomach, ever asked the person behind the counter "how old do you think I am?"
139: [01:06:00] <antmas> helenclarko: lol I've done that and then felt instacreepy
140: [01:06:41] <helenclarko> Stomach, Then get shitty when they think a 16 year old could grow such a beautiful beard like "THIS!"
141: [01:06:55] <antmas> the ladies at fresh choice don't ask me any more, they must think I'm a old booze hound :O
142: [01:06:56] <Stomach> its obviously at least a years beard
143: [01:06:58] <Stomach> I mean come on
144: [01:07:14] * xyphoid quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
145: [01:07:49] <irogue> beard vs no beard is the main factor in me getting ID'd
146: [01:08:11] <irogue> but male vs female is a big factor too, waaaaay more females ID me
147: [01:08:30] * xyphoid has joined #silverstripe
148: [01:08:30] <helenclarko> "This is clearly over 18 years old beard right here!"
149: [01:08:56] <helenclarko> Females with beards never get ID'd, so unfair!
150: [01:09:12] <antmas> it's not really about the 18 thing
151: [01:09:21] <antmas> it's if you look YOUNGER than 25 isn't it?
152: [01:09:34] <helenclarko> antmas, true
153: [01:09:49] <helenclarko> Touche away!
154: [01:14:24] <Stomach> to be fair, when I worked in a supermarket I just ID'd every mother fucker
155: [01:14:39] <Stomach> "I'm clearly over 50" "Can you prove that?"
156: [01:14:44] <chocolatemoose> no free passes if they have a walker>
157: [01:14:45] <chocolatemoose> *?
158: [01:14:48] <Stomach> hell no
159: [01:14:53] <Stomach> those walker ladies love that shit
160: [01:14:58] <chocolatemoose> lol
161: [01:15:13] <irogue> only place I worked that required IDing people was a tiny BP station
162: [01:15:31] <antmas> for ciggies?
163: [01:15:44] <irogue> don't think I ever actually got anyone who looked remotely young trying to buy ciggies
164: [01:16:06] <antmas> mmm I've never been ID'd for those
165: [01:16:57] <antmas> one lady at new world rudely pulled a young girl over to me (after the woman saw I was buying beer) and asked the young girl if she could smell anything on my breath
166: [01:16:58] <irogue> had a 16-17 year old looking super guilty trying to buy a porno, I just sold it to him
167: [01:17:00] <antmas> I'd had 1 beer
168: [01:17:01] <helenclarko> Stomach, Feeling like Oprah, "YOU GET ID'D and YOU GET ID'D!!"
169: [01:17:06] <irogue> wasn't gonna cockblock a horny teen's fapping
170: [01:17:44] <antmas> irogue: lol good man
171: [01:18:07] <antmas> pretty dumb that you can have sex at 16, yet can't watch other people until 18
172: [01:18:58] <irogue> just like I made up the difference from my own wallet when some 16ish year old was buying condoms and was a couple of dollars short
173: [01:19:16] <antmas> I've done that before too
174: [01:19:18] <irogue> i didn't want an unwanted teen pregnancy on my conscience over #2
175: [01:19:20] <irogue> *$2
176: [01:19:46] <antmas> I actually bought an old lady some groceries about a month ago and gave her a ride home (she was obviously walking very janky)
177: [01:20:00] <antmas> turns out she'd bought a big box of condoms when I helped her into the house LOL
178: [01:20:03] <antmas> that made my day :D
179: [01:20:30] <irogue> my old BP - just a dairy now https://goo.gl/maps/SjgbgubqALr
180: [01:20:59] <antmas> irogue: I've been to that dairy :D
181: [01:22:36] * antmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
182: [01:23:59] * xyphoid quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
183: [01:24:35] <irogue> it was a 2-pump gas station but went out of business when the self-serve Gull opened down the road
184: [01:27:32] * veb is now known as veb_b_z
185: [01:28:04] * veb_b_z is now known as veb
186: [01:28:07] * veb is now known as veb_b_z
187: [01:28:26] * veb_b_z is now known as veb
188: [01:28:43] * veb is now known as veb_b_z
189: [01:29:46] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
190: [01:31:51] * xyphoid has joined #silverstripe
191: [01:32:45] * antmas has joined #silverstripe
192: [01:33:22] <zippy> Thai & Kai
193: [01:33:22] <zippy> nice
194: [01:33:43] <Colin[pi]> antmas: o/
195: [01:34:10] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
196: [01:35:00] <irogue> zippy: good place
197: [01:36:09] <irogue> husband and wife, he's maori and she's thai. so its like your regular chinese takeaways type place except with thai food instead of chinese, and a heavy focus on fresh seafood on the fish+chips side of things
198: [01:36:11] * krofek has joined #silverstripe
199: [01:37:39] <antmas> which place is this?
200: [01:37:41] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
201: [01:38:31] <antmas> zippy: are there actually any good F&C places around here? I've tried like 6 different places and they're all yuck
202: [01:38:35] <zippy> antmas: Thai & Kai
203: [01:38:47] <zippy> there is the one down Queens street
204: [01:38:50] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
205: [01:38:55] <zippy> close to Mangos
206: [01:39:55] <zippy> https://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=richmond+takeaways&rflfq=1&tbm=lcl&rlfi=hd:;si:18121395702537732319
207: [01:40:29] * EasyCo has joined #silverstripe
208: [01:43:31] <helenclarko> Nelson city has some terrible fish and chip shops.
209: [01:43:48] <helenclarko> so Spensive
210: [01:45:18] <irogue> i've been pretty disappointed with wellington's fish and chips
211: [01:45:25] <irogue> suspect i was spoilt in auckland
212: [01:45:25] <antmas> zippy: actually
213: [01:45:33] <antmas> I've been there once and it WAS good from what I remember
214: [01:45:35] <helenclarko> The one we went to was past harvey norman by the round about before heading up the hill. Not sure they exist anymore, or if the standard is the same.
215: [01:45:46] <antmas> helenclarko: in nelson you mean?
216: [01:45:51] <helenclarko> Yup
217: [01:46:10] <antmas> yeah there is one near-ish to that
218: [01:46:56] <helenclarko> They weren't too bad.
219: [01:47:13] <DanaeNZ> happy Friday everyone! We've practically given up on the day here
220: [01:47:18] <irogue> haha
221: [01:47:23] <irogue> i have a meeting from 3pm-5pm
222: [01:47:25] <irogue> how cruel is that
223: [01:47:58] <DanaeNZ> irogue: i didn't know you worked for Satan
224: [01:48:04] <helenclarko> I need to find another place that does a battered onion sausage. SO GOOD!
225: [01:48:26] <helenclarko> ^ that was out of place.
226: [01:48:53] <irogue> helenclarko: but sounds fucking delicious
227: [01:48:54] <zippy> god, low energy..
228: [01:49:10] <irogue> DanaeNZ: you do know who my client is, right? :P
229: [01:49:18] <irogue> but no, this is a company-wide meeting
230: [01:49:38] <zippy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1nrtRLhvuQ
231: [01:50:03] <DanaeNZ> irogue: i have an idea, lol
232: [01:52:39] * chocolatemoose quit ()
233: [01:53:14] <helenclarko> irogue, Most places look at you weird and say "Hotdog, right"... "NO NOT A HOTDOG!"
234: [01:56:51] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
235: [01:57:38] <irogue> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3o0k0p/which_film_would_you_rate_a_perfect_10_out_of_10/
236: [01:57:48] <irogue> its hard to disagree with most of these
237: [01:59:18] <Colin[pi]> irogue: I didn't have the same love for The Big Lebowski as seemingly everyone else
238: [02:07:35] * antmas has joined #silverstripe
239: [02:13:18] <helenclarko> Hot Rod, Clear 10 out of 10 right there.
240: [02:13:26] <helenclarko> HotRod*
241: [02:14:45] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
242: [02:19:00] * jules0x quit (Quit: Leaving)
243: [02:21:14] <DanaeNZ> YEAH HOT ROD
244: [02:23:47] <helenclarko> Did you reinforce the take off ramp?
245: [02:25:06] * spronk has joined #silverstripe
246: [02:37:58] <zippy> spronk: update?
247: [02:38:04] <spronk> on el cap?
248: [02:43:00] <zippy> yea
249: [02:43:07] <spronk> seems alright eh
250: [02:43:19] <spronk> new font still grates me on non-retina tho
251: [02:43:25] <spronk> its ok on ret
252: [02:43:44] <helenclarko> Secret Trim Enabler command.
253: [02:45:14] <zippy> helenclarko: that was in before el cap
254: [02:45:55] <helenclarko> Forcetrim enable?
255: [02:46:06] <helenclarko> That was in before El Capitan?
256: [02:47:49] <helenclarko> Before El Capitan it was all done with kext signing.
257: [02:48:03] * DanaeNZ SCREAMS
258: [02:48:06] <DanaeNZ> FRIDAAAAAY
259: [02:48:09] <DanaeNZ> GET ME A DRINK
260: [02:48:24] <spronk> bloody alkies
261: [02:48:36] <DanaeNZ> WAHOOOO
262: [02:48:57] <muskie9> DanaeNZ it's only thrus late night here and I'm hitting it like it's Friday night!
263: [02:49:12] <muskie9> I wait for no friday!
264: [02:49:57] <zippy> helenclarko: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/06/latest-os-x-update-allows-you-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds/
265: [02:56:40] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
266: [02:57:58] <irogue> weeee
267: [02:58:02] <irogue> meeting finished an hour early!
268: [03:01:45] <helenclarko> zippy, Yea, Did that as soon as I updated haha.
269: [03:01:52] <spronk> good job
270: [03:03:23] <helenclarko> :)
271: [03:03:48] * helenclarko quit (Quit: Ain't no lie, baby bye bye bye.)
272: [03:03:52] <zippy> mmm dps...
273: [03:07:06] * glenn-bautista quit (Quit: Leaving.)
274: [03:21:19] * muskie9 quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
275: [03:24:12] <antmas> just got contact lenses
276: [03:24:24] <spronk> oo
277: [03:24:29] <antmas> shit's crazy
278: [03:24:33] <spronk> lol?
279: [03:24:44] <Colin[pi]> antmas: !!!
280: [03:24:47] <antmas> taking ages to get used to
281: [03:24:52] <spronk> how so?
282: [03:24:58] <antmas> fuckign breaking news guis
283: [03:24:58] <Colin[pi]> spronk: he can see?
284: [03:25:06] * antmas has contacts
285: [03:25:12] <Colin[pi]> NO WAI
286: [03:26:18] <antmas> optometrsit got the shits with me because I couldn't get the left one in lol
287: [03:26:26] <irogue> weirdest thing when i switched from glasses to contacts a few years back (am back to glasses now due to laziness) was not seeing glasses frames
288: [03:26:33] <irogue> was so weird not having them permanently in my vision
289: [03:26:44] <antmas> irogue: yeah see I don't need them all the time
290: [03:26:56] <antmas> just for long distance, whiteboards in meetings, driving etc
291: [03:27:04] <irogue> only times my glasses come off is to shower or sleep
292: [03:27:17] <antmas> but I want to wear sunglasses
293: [03:27:22] <antmas> and transitions are just lol
294: [03:27:28] <irogue> yeah
295: [03:27:30] * Stomach quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
296: [03:27:41] <irogue> i used one of the "two pairs for X" deals at specsavers to get one normal and one sunglasses
297: [03:27:53] <Colin[pi]> yeah transitions will make you look like my dad
298: [03:27:59] <antmas> I got my Electric's priced for prescription lenses... price made me nope the fuck out
299: [03:28:17] <antmas> irogue: yeah I thought about that too
300: [03:28:52] <irogue> was mostly for cost reasons, since the sunglasses you can get in those deals are all pretty shit
301: [03:28:52] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
302: [03:29:00] <irogue> but i mostly only wear sunglasses while driving so meh
303: [03:29:26] <irogue> but no that i'm not so poor i'll prob get proper quality sunglasses made prescription this time
304: [03:29:57] <spronk> zenni optical brah
305: [03:30:23] <spronk> fuck luxxotica
306: [03:30:31] <spronk> luxottica*
307: [03:30:34] <antmas> luxxotica sounds like a porn name
308: [03:30:46] <spronk> they control like 80% of eyewear
309: [03:30:47] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
310: [03:30:54] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
311: [03:31:06] <spronk> pretty much solely responsible for glasses costing more than like $50
312: [03:31:11] <antmas> shit's hard to get used to having something touch your eye
313: [03:31:39] * zippy quit (Client Quit)
314: [03:31:39] * antmas Colin[pi] kinda feel like someone has sprayed clag in my eye LOL
315: [03:32:07] <Colin[pi]> lol
316: [03:32:21] <antmas> I don't know why I sent that to you specifically :P
317: [03:34:06] * veb_b_z is now known as veb
318: [03:34:26] <antmas> guy did say I have higher pressure than normal in one eye, so potential glaucoma there
319: [03:34:28] <antmas> \o/
320: [03:34:32] <Colin[pi]> yay
321: [03:35:03] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
322: [03:36:07] <antmas> gah
323: [03:36:12] <antmas> my watch battery is dying
324: [03:36:19] <antmas> but sometimes it's working, sometimes not
325: [03:36:23] <antmas> confusing
326: [03:40:03] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
327: [03:42:25] * antmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
328: [03:47:04] * spekulatius quit (Quit: Leaving)
329: [03:50:14] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
330: [03:51:06] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
331: [03:52:06] * glenn-bautista has joined #silverstripe
332: [03:52:43] * Stomach quit (Client Quit)
333: [04:00:37] * benjhocking quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
334: [04:07:29] <Colin[pi]> bye cocks
335: [04:07:30] * Colin[pi] has left #silverstripe
336: [04:10:58] <irogue> [17:07:32] <Colin[pi]> bye cocks
337: [04:11:03] <irogue> he would fit in so well at silverstripe
338: [04:11:06] <spronk> lol
339: [04:11:51] * benjhocking has joined #silverstripe
340: [04:13:48] * aneesha quit (Remote host closed the connection)
341: [04:14:32] <irogue> https://twitter.com/nzdrug/status/652322855258992641
342: [04:24:28] * glenn-bautista quit (Quit: Leaving.)
343: [04:31:17] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
344: [04:31:33] * DanaeNZ quit (Quit: TIME TO FEED)
345: [04:48:09] * david________ has joined #silverstripe
346: [04:48:10] <ss-helper> david________: Welcome to #silverstripe! Please ask your questions but don't leave too soon, we are a busy lot.
347: [04:48:28] <david________> anyone know how to trigger this? https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3/security/MemberLoginForm.php#L312
348: [04:48:56] <david________> I tried creating a "forgotPassword" method on my DataExtension that extends Member but no luck
349: [04:55:23] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
350: [04:57:37] * aneesha has joined #silverstripe
351: [04:57:44] * aneesha quit (Client Quit)
352: [05:06:39] * veb is now known as veb_b_z
353: [05:06:56] <david________> any ideas?
354: [05:07:06] * veb_b_z is now known as veb
355: [05:23:30] * Liquide quit ()
356: [05:35:15] * mahfuz quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
357: [05:35:45] <david________> Figured it out, you have to MemberLoginForm instead and the forgotPassword method takes a parameter of Member then you just return true or false. You can also set the session message before returning to give the user some feedback
358: [05:35:57] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
359: [05:37:07] * wmk has joined #silverstripe
360: [05:37:56] * benjhocking1 has joined #silverstripe
361: [05:40:14] * benjhocking quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
362: [05:41:15] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
363: [05:56:43] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
364: [06:11:05] * benjhocking1 quit (Quit: Leaving.)
365: [06:15:28] * zlinux has joined #silverstripe
366: [06:17:57] * david________ quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
367: [06:32:35] * spronk quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
368: [06:33:14] * spronk has joined #silverstripe
369: [06:59:19] * Mike123 has joined #silverstripe
370: [06:59:25] <Mike123> Morning :)
371: [07:00:32] <Mike123> Guys, can i set ONE error message for ALL required fields in on line code ? because there's a lot of fields and it will be headache for me :/
372: [07:03:46] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
373: [07:08:47] <wmk> Mike123, depends on your validator.
374: [07:08:58] <wmk> but you could loop over all required fields and set the message
375: [07:09:13] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
376: [07:13:40] * swaiba has joined #silverstripe
377: [07:14:41] <Mike123> wmk thanks :)
378: [07:25:00] * zlinux quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
379: [07:26:38] * zlinux has joined #silverstripe
380: [07:29:26] * spronk quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
381: [07:36:52] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
382: [07:42:16] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
383: [08:05:49] * kinglozzer has joined #silverstripe
384: [08:05:50] <Zauberfisch> Mike123: yes.
385: [08:06:30] <Zauberfisch> When the validator produces a validation error, and the FieldName is empty, it is displayed at top of the form I think
386: [08:12:41] * zlinux_ has joined #silverstripe
387: [08:13:45] * zlinux quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
388: [08:15:30] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: loop.
389: [08:16:44] <Pywvlmk> foreach($form->Fields() as $field) $field->setCustomValidationMessage($field->Name.' is required.')
390: [08:16:46] <Pywvlmk> or something
391: [08:18:59] * GioVdK has joined #silverstripe
392: [08:19:28] <wmk> Pywvlmk, ☺/
393: [08:19:45] <Pywvlmk> :>
394: [08:19:50] <Pywvlmk> zsay \o
395: [08:19:53] <Pywvlmk> bollocks
396: [08:19:58] <wmk> ???
397: [08:19:58] <Pywvlmk> \say \o
398: [08:20:04] <Pywvlmk> fuck, wrong slash anyway, derp
399: [08:20:10] <Pywvlmk> \o
400: [08:20:21] <Pywvlmk> /o <-durr
401: [08:20:27] <wmk> Pywvlmk, i'm a g'n'r fan. so NO backslash!
402: [08:20:41] <Pywvlmk> :)
403: [08:20:48] <wmk> also: backslash + german keyboard layout = major pita
404: [08:22:08] <Pywvlmk> UK layout ain't that much easier when you're not used to it
405: [08:22:31] <Zauberfisch> I am actually loving the UK layout
406: [08:22:35] <Zauberfisch> switched a few weeks back
407: [08:22:46] <Mike123> wmk, Zauberfisch and Pywvlmk , Thanks :)
408: [08:23:10] <wmk> Mike123, ;)
409: [08:23:17] <Zauberfisch> just confusing sometimes because most of my keyboards are still german ones (the printed letters on it)
410: [08:27:32] * headtrip has joined #silverstripe
411: [08:45:43] <Mike123> i have the same problem as disscused here http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/form-questions/show/19739 , but i want to understand the solution
412: [08:46:02] <Mike123> i need to change js AND php ? or one of them ?
413: [08:46:13] <Mike123> btw i'm using Server-side validation
414: [08:47:55] <Pywvlmk> Zauberfisch: what's the major difference? Do German keyboards have the extra button by the left shift?
415: [08:48:43] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: that's really old. It doesn't apply anymore (or at least, very much should not.)
416: [08:49:20] <Pywvlmk> it was caused by NOT ticking the checkbox (ie, no value) means you haven't filled it in
417: [08:49:42] <Pywvlmk> So you had to tick it, even if you didn't want to agree.
418: [08:50:20] <Pywvlmk> or... something like that. that actually sounds wrong. I can't remember. I did enjoy the patch when it came around though.
419: [08:51:06] <Mike123> the form is submiting even if i doesnt Tick the checkbox... what should i do ?
420: [08:51:12] <Pywvlmk> oh, yeah it was that it _always_ validated, because both tick and not tick are valid inputs.
421: [08:51:26] <Pywvlmk> but if you required it to be ticked, that's not idea obviously.
422: [08:51:37] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: it's in RequiredFields?
423: [08:51:42] <Pywvlmk> and you spelt it correctly?
424: [08:51:43] <Mike123> yes
425: [08:51:46] <Mike123> yes
426: [08:52:20] <Mike123> it works when i use html5 validator , i mean , then i comment novalidation = true ...
427: [08:52:31] <Pywvlmk> wait, are you talking about js or PHP?
428: [08:52:41] <Pywvlmk> if you submit the form does it come back telling you the field is required?
429: [08:52:45] <Mike123> i need to use PHP
430: [08:52:59] <Mike123> i my case , no
431: [08:53:00] <Pywvlmk> yes, but it's definitely an issue in PHP, not just front end?
432: [08:53:12] <Mike123> i think so..
433: [08:53:23] <Mike123> all other fields validating ok
434: [08:53:31] <Mike123> just this one make some problems
435: [08:53:34] * headtrip quit (Quit: (null))
436: [08:56:10] <Mike123> i think i need to check somehow is the checkbox checked, not the value ...
437: [08:56:32] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: the value will always be 1 if it is checked. 0 or null if not.
438: [08:57:34] <Mike123> well when i check it i get it like , Checked: 1 , but then i dont, i get nothing in $data
439: [08:57:48] <Mike123> i mean i dont get this field value at all
440: [08:57:49] <Pywvlmk> because it's not valid input.
441: [08:58:00] <Pywvlmk> it's not a 'successful' field
442: [08:58:35] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: so your issue is that it's not coming back as required when not ticked? Or that it's missing from the $data?
443: [08:59:26] <Mike123> issue: not coming back as required, and i dont get error message in this case , and it's bad ...
444: [09:00:06] <Pywvlmk> right. So do you have some paste for us? Or is the code sensitive?
445: [09:04:33] <Mike123> Pywvlmk , well http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/561782fa9ff0b , there nothing to see here i think :D
446: [09:05:48] <Pywvlmk> indeed, seems like it should work.
447: [09:06:05] <Mike123> yes :/
448: [09:06:17] <Mike123> and i dont know how to test it...
449: [09:06:57] <wmk> Mike123, unit tests
450: [09:07:00] <wmk> or TDD
451: [09:07:06] <wmk> tears driven development
452: [09:08:01] <Mike123> wmk, never tried that... will take some time
453: [09:08:59] * wmk sings: 'baby you know, the first test is the ....est'
454: [09:11:22] <Mike123> maybe i should make some kind of custo validation for ot ? if on Submit action i dont get the ConfirmBox value i will set the session variable and print it in front ? what do you think ?
455: [09:12:12] <Pywvlmk> hahah wmk
456: [09:12:30] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: what version are you using?
457: [09:12:34] * zlinux has joined #silverstripe
458: [09:12:41] <Pywvlmk> can you run the checkbox test from dev/tests?
459: [09:13:58] * zlinux_ quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
460: [09:15:04] <Zauberfisch> Pywvlmk: qwertz
461: [09:15:21] <Zauberfisch> Pywvlmk: also the buttons next to returns are different
462: [09:15:40] <Zauberfisch> ;'#[] => öä#ü+
463: [09:16:16] <Zauberfisch> on german layout, if you need a [ you have to press "right ALT + 8"
464: [09:16:34] <wmk> is there an easy way to sync manymanylists?
465: [09:16:38] <wmk> e.g. for translations?
466: [09:16:50] <wmk> so my german manymanylist should be exactly the same like the english
467: [09:17:04] <wmk> add just takes care of new items
468: [09:18:00] * Azure has joined #silverstripe
469: [09:18:17] <Mike123> Pywvlmk, SS version ? 3.1 , i never runed the test before :/
470: [09:18:38] <wmk> Mike123, you'll net to setup PHPUnit
471: [09:18:48] <wmk> and maybe sqlite to speed up things
472: [09:19:43] * NETim_ has joined #silverstripe
473: [09:21:39] * NETim quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
474: [09:21:53] <Mike123> so many problem because of one checkbox ? :D
475: [09:30:30] * spronka has joined #silverstripe
476: [09:33:50] * Azure|dc has joined #silverstripe
477: [09:34:02] * Azure quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
478: [09:34:59] * zlinux quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
479: [09:36:09] * guci0 has joined #silverstripe
480: [09:36:12] <guci0> Hello World!
481: [09:37:45] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
482: [09:40:32] <spronka> why, hello guci0
483: [09:42:18] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
484: [09:47:32] <Pywvlmk> Zauberfisch: yeh, I knew about z and y, but wasn't sure if it was the block 2 line enter/return key or the single line
485: [09:49:34] <Pywvlmk> Zauberfisch: UK has extra button next to left shift too (which isn't highlighted). Some keys are different inputs, but I was wondering more about physical layout :>
486: [09:49:35] <Pywvlmk> http://cdn1.mediadevil.com/storage/UK_EU_Keyboard_Layouts.jpg
487: [09:50:16] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: well, this is debugging more than anything. Normally you wouldn't need this.
488: [09:51:25] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
489: [09:51:46] <Pywvlmk> Zauberfisch: also not highlighted is that the button above the return on the US layout moves down a line and is beside the return on the UK.
490: [09:52:28] <Pywvlmk> not an extra key, but moved slightly. Although again it's different input between US (|\) and UK (~#)
491: [09:54:23] <spronka> lemon & pyro
492: [09:54:24] <spronka> whatup
493: [09:55:08] <Pywvlmk> not much
494: [09:55:16] <spronka> when you coming back to nz?
495: [09:55:18] <Pywvlmk> joining ubuntu boxes to an AD domain.
496: [09:55:21] <Pywvlmk> next month.
497: [09:55:24] <spronka> urrrwwwww
498: [09:55:33] <Pywvlmk> well, maybe december.
499: [09:55:36] <Pywvlmk> we'll see.
500: [09:55:39] <spronka> mm
501: [09:55:45] <Pywvlmk> lose house 1st nov
502: [09:55:54] * wmk quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
503: [09:55:55] <Pywvlmk> do some touring.
504: [09:55:58] <Pywvlmk> see a concert.
505: [09:56:00] <spronka> oo
506: [09:56:03] <spronka> nice
507: [09:56:07] <Pywvlmk> either come home or tour home. Not sure.
508: [09:56:21] <spronka> hmm
509: [09:56:37] <spronka> https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/652420245550956544
510: [09:56:37] <spronka> ha
511: [09:56:55] <Pywvlmk> gOLD
512: [09:58:18] <Zauberfisch> Pywvlmk: no, in terms of physical layout they are pretty much the same
513: [09:58:29] <spronka> uk enter is stupid
514: [09:58:35] <spronka> what the actual fuck did they do to that button
515: [09:58:43] <spronka> OOO
516: [09:58:46] <spronka> ITS BOOTING
517: [09:59:30] <spronka> (el capitan installer on my hp laptop
518: [10:00:05] <Pywvlmk> Zauberfisch: ah yeah. So reasonably easy switch then (just got to get used to different inputs)
519: [10:00:43] <Pywvlmk> I went from US 101 key to UK 102 key, I was forever fat fingering shift & |\ and hitting return when I wanted \
520: [10:00:46] <Zauberfisch> yep
521: [10:00:48] <Pywvlmk> etc.
522: [10:01:16] <spronka> where's \
523: [10:01:17] <spronka> on uk?
524: [10:01:38] <Pywvlmk> Plus the extra key on the 3rd row, " and @ are different places, with # magically inserted where there normally isn't a key :P
525: [10:01:49] <Pywvlmk> spronka: next to left shift, before z
526: [10:01:49] <swaiba> and who even came up with original QWERTY layout designed to be inefficient? and then backed it to be the most purchased (with government orders)?
527: [10:02:14] <Pywvlmk> swaiba: same person who came up with VHS I guess.
528: [10:02:32] <swaiba> ha, well no
529: [10:02:44] <swaiba> I meant country really - USA
530: [10:02:50] <Pywvlmk> I mean, the backing to be most popular.
531: [10:02:55] <Pywvlmk> not the inventing bit.
532: [10:03:05] <swaiba> no one ever retrained on dvorak?
533: [10:03:06] <Pywvlmk> it was the unanimous 'them'.
534: [10:03:10] <spronka> eww
535: [10:03:21] <Pywvlmk> swaiba: nope. Know of people who have though.
536: [10:03:29] <spronka> there used to be an odd layout with the big enter key, and \ next to right shift (on rhs of)
537: [10:03:33] <Pywvlmk> ie, changed layout, so keys were all mislabled, but hey whatever.
538: [10:03:42] <swaiba> Pywvlmk and are they much faster for it?
539: [10:03:47] <Pywvlmk> My first computer had the big enter key.
540: [10:03:49] <swaiba> I've considered it over the years
541: [10:03:51] <Pywvlmk> still qwerty though
542: [10:04:11] <spronka> there isn't really much evidence of either being that much faster
543: [10:04:12] <Pywvlmk> the \ was next to backspace, which was single width (not double)
544: [10:04:23] <zippy> Pywvlmk: does that make the left shift small?
545: [10:04:23] <spronka> or ergonomically better
546: [10:04:31] <Pywvlmk> and the enter was what is basically the enter and # combined on UK layout
547: [10:04:32] <swaiba> always fancied trying this... http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/shop/advantage-for-pc-mac/
548: [10:04:39] <Pywvlmk> zippy: yes.
549: [10:05:01] <zippy> ouch
550: [10:05:04] <Pywvlmk> narrower than ctrl
551: [10:05:14] <spronka> that looks weird swaiba
552: [10:05:16] <Pywvlmk> but still wider than a 'normal' key
553: [10:06:09] * Mike123 quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
554: [10:06:20] <Pywvlmk> I went through this phase where no matter which keyboard I sat at, I fucked up "
555: [10:06:31] <spronka> D:
556: [10:06:35] <Pywvlmk> (home is US101, work UK102)
557: [10:06:36] <swaiba> spronka yeah, but it's also weird we all use a keyboard designed for a dead technology (typewriters) and designed to make typing slower
558: [10:06:36] <spronka> this is the problem with e.g. dvorak :p
559: [10:07:12] <spronka> well
560: [10:07:15] <spronka> thats a myth
561: [10:07:20] <spronka> qwerty wasn't actually designed to slow
562: [10:07:22] <Pywvlmk> I seem to be better now though. But still fuck keys up.
563: [10:07:36] <spronka> just to avoid common pairings being next to eachother so typewriter arms didn't jam
564: [10:07:38] <Pywvlmk> was qwerty even designed?
565: [10:07:39] <Pywvlmk> :P
566: [10:07:42] <spronka> jaja
567: [10:08:05] <swaiba> spronka so it was designed to make common keys further and harder to reach
568: [10:08:11] <swaiba> that isn't slowing things down?
569: [10:08:14] <spronka> no it wasn't
570: [10:08:22] <spronka> it was, in the day, designed to speed up typing :p
571: [10:08:25] <Pywvlmk> swaiba: again though, slower yes, but more because the arms aren't next to each other.
572: [10:08:31] <spronka> mainly to avoid the typewriter jamming
573: [10:08:49] <spronka> and compared to the original alphabetical layouts it was acutally faster because two hands did more work
574: [10:08:51] <swaiba> well yeah it was designed to speed things up then, but it is now a slower layout - so it's sematics
575: [10:08:54] <spronka> that was the theory anyway
576: [10:09:01] <Pywvlmk> but not as slow as when you jam the typewriter and have to reach in to flick the letterpresses back to rest
577: [10:09:23] <swaiba> well yeah evolution is funny
578: [10:09:38] <Pywvlmk> being mechanical they keys are where they need to be to support physical linkages
579: [10:09:44] <Pywvlmk> I guess.
580: [10:10:53] <spronka> qwerty is actually quite a useful layout for general purposes
581: [10:11:03] <Pywvlmk> mmhmm
582: [10:11:05] <spronka> it's not too slow two handed, and supports one handed typing a lto better than a lot of alternates
583: [10:11:15] <Pywvlmk> VHS was perfectly acceptable recording format too.
584: [10:11:36] <Pywvlmk> betamax benefits for the nerd range.
585: [10:12:25] <spronka> betamax looked weird.
586: [10:12:38] <Pywvlmk> just like the general public think cellphone loudspeakers are acceptable for listing to music while you walk.
587: [10:12:42] <spronka> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Betavhs2.jpg
588: [10:12:42] <spronka> i mean
589: [10:12:44] <spronka> which would you rather use
590: [10:12:49] <spronka> the weird looking thing
591: [10:12:56] <spronka> or the symmetrical dual window thing
592: [10:13:04] <Pywvlmk> haha
593: [10:13:07] * Pywvlmk has left #silverstripe
594: [10:13:14] * Pywvlmk has joined #silverstripe
595: [10:13:17] <Pywvlmk> well fuck
596: [10:13:19] <spronka> function over form
597: [10:13:22] <spronka> YAY
598: [10:13:46] <swaiba> at the time as I knew my rich friends had beta max and everyone else had VHS, I'd have prefer betamax
599: [10:13:57] <swaiba> and I recall the first "remote control"...
600: [10:14:10] <swaiba> ... a wire from teh video to a control panel 3 meters away lol
601: [10:14:49] <spronka> hah
602: [10:14:49] <spronka> yeah
603: [10:14:55] <spronka> our first vhs player had that
604: [10:15:00] <spronka> my dad got it from fiji or something
605: [10:15:06] <spronka> iirc, SUPRA
606: [10:15:18] * elgabbu has joined #silverstripe
607: [10:15:29] <spronka> back when vcrs were silver
608: [10:15:44] <spronka> and had flappy doors with tuning knobs
609: [10:16:13] * spronka stops before anyone realises how much of an av nerd he was
610: [10:19:18] <spronka> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11526004
611: [10:19:18] <spronka> holy fuck
612: [10:19:22] <spronka> people in govt
613: [10:19:24] <spronka> are fucking idiots
614: [10:20:28] <swaiba> must resist... http://www.repton3.co.uk/chuckieegg.aspx
615: [10:20:47] <spronka> oo
616: [10:20:48] <spronka> what is this
617: [10:20:51] <swaiba> someone sent me this and I should stop now before I spend all day on it
618: [10:20:57] <swaiba> chuckie egg for C643
619: [10:21:01] <swaiba> *C64
620: [10:21:13] <spronka> .... whats the objective
621: [10:21:18] <spronka> i never played this on my c64 :<
622: [10:21:22] <swaiba> collect the eggs
623: [10:21:29] <spronka> what are them mounds?
624: [10:21:44] <swaiba> the birds eat them
625: [10:21:57] <spronka> i seeee
626: [10:22:13] <swaiba> arrow keys and space for jump
627: [10:22:20] * swaiba must get back to work
628: [10:22:23] <spronka> oh
629: [10:22:24] <spronka> i died
630: [10:25:11] <spronka> interesitng
631: [10:25:13] <spronka> you can store
632: [10:25:14] <spronka> 50GB
633: [10:25:17] <spronka> on a VHS tape
634: [10:25:24] <spronka> ....why did we make DVDs?
635: [10:26:28] <swaiba> Random Access ?
636: [10:26:34] <spronka> hmm
637: [10:27:00] <zippy> yea tape drives (dat tape drives) but they are slower iirc
638: [10:27:31] <swaiba> I remember the feeling of wanting to watch something at the start of an 4 hour un-rewound tape
639: [10:28:09] * Parker1090 has joined #silverstripe
640: [10:28:10] <zippy> hire out the video and the prick forgot to rewind
641: [10:28:26] <spronka> ugh
642: [10:28:32] <spronka> shitty fucking video stores that didn't have rewinders
643: [10:28:49] <Parker1090> Hi
644: [10:28:55] <spronka> it was so awesome when we got our superfast rewind vcr
645: [10:29:05] <swaiba> Parker1090 hi
646: [10:29:17] <spronka> sounded like a jet engine but SO FAST
647: [10:29:28] <zippy> man they up to 10TB now eh
648: [10:29:45] <Parker1090> I have a site that's live, and has been for some time, but it's suddenly thrown this at me: "Zend_Cache::throwException(cache_dir must be a directory)". I haven't changed anything, so any ideas what would suddenly cause this?
649: [10:33:29] <spronka> 10tb hdd
650: [10:33:34] <spronka> scheet
651: [10:33:41] <spronka> 2tb ssds to
652: [10:33:42] <spronka> o
653: [10:39:53] * stnvh has joined #silverstripe
654: [10:41:45] * Mike123 has joined #silverstripe
655: [10:44:21] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
656: [10:44:55] * Azure|dc quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
657: [10:45:00] <swaiba> Parker1090 sorry I've no idea
658: [10:45:20] <swaiba> best guess is to check the code that would throw that and see why
659: [10:45:43] <swaiba> sounds like its folder was moved, removed or permissions changed
660: [10:46:45] * Parker1090 quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
661: [10:48:14] <spronka> hrm
662: [10:48:16] <spronka> they gone
663: [10:48:21] * spronka was going to suggest some things
664: [10:48:23] <spronka> oh well
665: [10:53:42] <swaiba> has the whole "wait around we are busy" message been ditched?
666: [10:53:52] <spronka> hwo knows
667: [10:53:55] <spronka> it's not in the topic o_O
668: [10:54:00] <spronka> blame ss23
669: [10:54:33] <swaiba> no blame, just funny they would have seen that and then seen a discussion on keyboards, video tapes and chukie egg
670: [10:54:42] <spronka> nono
671: [10:54:44] <spronka> blame ss23
672: [10:54:51] <spronka> he's responsible for anything and everything according to I
673: [10:54:52] <spronka> :D
674: [10:55:10] <spronka> you should see this place in the nz daytime
675: [10:55:30] <spronka> pretty sure 90% of discussion isn't silverstripe related :D
676: [10:58:00] <Mike123> i want to check if the field was check on form submit, if it's not then i want to set session msg ant get back to the form, so that all filled field would stay there, how can i do that ?
677: [10:58:54] <Mike123> i want to do the same action when form diesnt pass validation
678: [10:58:59] <Mike123> doesn't*
679: [10:59:23] <elgabbu> hello guys :) ... was wondering how do i check if an instance of a dataobject extends a particular extension?
680: [11:00:14] <Mike123> elgabbu, Object::get()->hasExtension($extension) ?
681: [11:02:47] <elgabbu> yeap thanks Mike123 singleton($dataClass)->hasExtension( 'GeoTarget')
682: [11:03:18] <Mike123> :)
683: [11:09:46] <Pywvlmk> wheeee, silverstripe eu email! :D
684: [11:10:04] <Pywvlmk> 1 week, I'm getting excited.
685: [11:11:05] <Mike123> Pywvlmk, still cant solve this CheckBoxField problem :/
686: [11:11:28] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: It's lunchtime for me. I can help when I get back perhaps.
687: [11:11:51] <Mike123> i want to make custom validation but i dont know how to get back to the form and dont losse data that was entered
688: [11:12:03] <Mike123> oh ok :) have a nice luchtime :)
689: [11:12:07] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: the form should auto populate
690: [11:12:30] <Mike123> emm.. :D how ?
691: [11:12:35] <Pywvlmk> magic! :>
692: [11:13:12] <Mike123> what i need to return on submit action ?
693: [11:13:17] <Pywvlmk> oh, have you changed templates?
694: [11:13:30] <spronka> hmm
695: [11:13:34] <Pywvlmk> It might be that your template is missing the population variable (so is always empty)
696: [11:13:49] <Pywvlmk> check that (compare with framework default templates/forms)
697: [11:13:52] <Pywvlmk> :>
698: [11:13:55] <Mike123> ok
699: [11:13:58] <spronka> wohoooo
700: [11:14:00] <spronka> hackintosh boots!
701: [11:15:39] <spronka> i mean
702: [11:15:42] <spronka> my totally legit mac boots
703: [11:15:45] <spronka> >_>
704: [11:20:17] <Mike123> i need something like this http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5617a2e1b81bd
705: [11:36:36] <elgabbu> if i may pose another question ... i have assigned an extension to DataList ...
706: [11:36:57] <elgabbu> and added a new function called GeoFilter
707: [11:37:18] <elgabbu> i am able to call this function from a ManyManyList instance ok
708: [11:37:41] <elgabbu> i am trying to add a filter on the list from this function
709: [11:37:43] <elgabbu> so i do
710: [11:37:51] <elgabbu> $this->owner->filter(array( 'Banner.Country' => 'us' ));
711: [11:38:36] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
712: [11:38:53] <elgabbu> duh will i m writing this i figured out the problem :) ... i want return the result of the filter function
713: [11:38:59] <elgabbu> haha thanks anyways
714: [11:43:43] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
715: [11:52:25] <elgabbu> any way to generate a WHERE field IS NULL query?
716: [11:52:52] <elgabbu> filter(array('Field' => null)) ... gives Field = '';
717: [11:54:40] <swaiba> elgabbu ->where('MyField IS NULL'); is the only way I know
718: [11:57:09] <elgabbu> swaiba ... mm maybe i should set defaul value to the field so that its empty string if not populated
719: [11:57:40] <swaiba> up to you elgabbu :)
720: [12:20:04] * UndefinedOffset has joined #silverstripe
721: [12:46:03] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: you shouldn't need that because the checkbox should be _requried_ to be ticked.
722: [12:47:05] <Pywvlmk> elgabbu: it's a known issue, and is hopefully fixed in 3.2
723: [12:47:14] <Pywvlmk> kinglozzer could maybe verify if he knows off hand
724: [12:47:27] <elgabbu> would be great to know thanks :)
725: [12:49:19] <kinglozzer> Pywvlmk, elgabbu: I believe it's master, not 3.2 :(
726: [12:49:55] <elgabbu> oh so maybe we see it in version 4 :P
727: [12:50:37] <kinglozzer> Yep :)
728: [13:11:56] <Mike123> Pywmlmk, i know but it doesnt work so i dont have any other choice :(
729: [13:16:21] <Mike123> Pywvlmk, if you would tell me steps to solution or solution to this problem a would be vary thankful :))
730: [13:22:06] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
731: [13:29:52] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: make a test form perhaps. Not a full test, but just a small form with a required checkbox on it's own controller. Then if that doesn't work, either update or log an issue.
732: [13:31:10] <elgabbu> any documenation anywhere regarding how to structure a module ... particularly the code folder .. like models, extensions etc ..
733: [13:33:46] <Pywvlmk> it doesn't matter at all.
734: [13:34:07] <Pywvlmk> You don't even need the code folder.
735: [13:34:29] <Pywvlmk> But people generally tend to follow the cms' example.
736: [13:35:27] <elgabbu> would be nice to provide developers with some documented standard so that everyone follows them :)
737: [13:35:29] <Pywvlmk> I tend to leave pages in code/, unless it's a very busy one in which case maybe pages/ or models/pages (but the tend to have controllers too so that's not generally that good).
738: [13:35:30] <Pywvlmk> etc.
739: [13:35:36] <Pywvlmk> elgabbu: it really doesn't matter.
740: [13:35:46] <Pywvlmk> autoloader searches, finds, maps.
741: [13:35:52] <Pywvlmk> on dev/build
742: [13:36:11] <Pywvlmk> templates on the other hand, does require structure.
743: [13:36:24] <Pywvlmk> module/templates/Layout
744: [13:36:28] <Pywvlmk> module/templates/Includes
745: [13:36:38] <Pywvlmk> beyond that, it doesn't matter again.
746: [13:38:10] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: http://sspaste.com/paste/show/5617c334d0ff9
747: [13:38:13] <Pywvlmk> try something like that
748: [13:38:20] <Pywvlmk> you'll need to set up a route of course, and dev/build
749: [13:38:40] <Pywvlmk> but if that works (requires to be ticked) then it must be something you've done with your code, or perhaps an extension
750: [13:39:27] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
751: [13:41:00] <kinglozzer> elgabbu: There's a module standard under review atm
752: [13:41:20] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4632
753: [13:41:57] <elgabbu> thanks kinglozzer
754: [13:43:16] <swaiba> elgabbu - nice talk here about it https://vimeo.com/136600408
755: [13:44:06] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
756: [13:53:08] <Mike123> Pywvlmk, thanks , i will try this now
757: [14:01:31] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/Zw_HfNujAgAJ
758: [14:02:50] * spronka quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
759: [14:11:18] <Mike123> Pywvlmk, when i tried to var_dump, it return me null if it wasnt selected
760: [14:12:07] <Pywvlmk> Mike123: so it did succeed? It shouldn't let you submit if it's not checked, because it's requird.
761: [14:12:47] <Pywvlmk> so then it's a questions of any modifications you've made to the default form
762: [14:12:58] <Pywvlmk> eg. _config directives to change default template, etc.
763: [14:13:09] <Pywvlmk> or Injector, using custom class for RequiredFields
764: [14:13:09] <Mike123> it submited
765: [14:13:17] <Pywvlmk> it shouldn't :<
766: [14:13:18] <Pywvlmk> :(
767: [14:13:28] <Mike123> but other field are validating fine
768: [14:13:38] <Mike123> TextFields, TextAreaFields etc
769: [14:13:42] <Pywvlmk> there aren't any other fields on that test form
770: [14:14:04] <Mike123> on test form no, but in my form i mean ...
771: [14:14:27] <Pywvlmk> right, yeah. but this is CheckboxField we're concerned with, specifically.
772: [14:14:33] <Pywvlmk> do you know your exact version?#
773: [14:14:46] <Mike123> no
774: [14:21:28] * patnelson has joined #silverstripe
775: [14:21:40] <kinglozzer> Mike123: Can you paste your form/form handler?
776: [14:22:25] * patnelson quit (Remote host closed the connection)
777: [14:25:30] * patnelson has joined #silverstripe
778: [14:25:33] <patnelson> ping
779: [14:25:39] <kinglozzer> pong patnelson
780: [14:25:45] <patnelson> howdy!
781: [14:25:57] <patnelson> late day?
782: [14:26:00] <kinglozzer> hey :)
783: [14:26:03] <kinglozzer> Nope, 3pm here!
784: [14:26:07] <kinglozzer> (UK)
785: [14:26:10] <patnelson> oh right
786: [14:26:26] <patnelson> i remember clicking your name on github, I was wondering if you were a kiwi or somewhere else.
787: [14:27:21] <kinglozzer> Gosh I really need to update my Github photo... I'm much older and uglier now
788: [14:27:22] <kinglozzer> :P
789: [14:27:58] <swaiba> kinglozzer i know the feeling lol
790: [14:28:13] <swaiba> be good to put real faces to screen names in a week
791: [14:28:24] <kinglozzer> swaiba: https://github.com/swaiba you look so young!
792: [14:28:25] <kinglozzer> ;)
793: [14:29:03] <patnelson> this makes me wonder if I should use my github name here instead.
794: [14:29:09] <swaiba> well linkedin :-p
795: [14:29:22] <swaiba> I'm debating whether to lose my current beard...
796: [14:29:35] <swaiba> to make a better impression next week
797: [14:29:50] * patnelson quit (Client Quit)
798: [14:30:03] * patnelson has joined #silverstripe
799: [14:30:26] * patnelson quit (Client Quit)
800: [14:30:35] * patricknelson has joined #silverstripe
801: [14:30:59] <patricknelson> PITA. since i'm using pidgin I gotta disconnect/reconnect just to change my nick.
802: [14:33:09] * TheVoid quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
803: [14:33:49] <swaiba> it removes the privacy (of sorts) to use your github name
804: [14:33:50] * TheVoid has joined #silverstripe
805: [14:34:04] <swaiba> and the swaiba one above is one I abanoned long ago
806: [14:34:57] <kinglozzer> swaiba: This is IRC, there is no privacy ;)
807: [14:35:20] <kinglozzer> Just remember not to say anything *too* incriminating ;D
808: [14:35:23] * swaiba waves at NSA and GCHQ
809: [14:35:32] <patricknelson> true.
810: [14:35:51] <swaiba> well I just don't use my full name
811: [14:35:57] <patricknelson> I'm not sure I'm too worried about it if my name is "patnelson" vs "patricknelson". I'm not sure who'd that fool.
812: [14:36:20] <patricknelson> i always did primarily because I like being associated, professionally, with my code and etc. it's a brand, man.
813: [14:36:55] <swaiba> commented *ONCE* on a popular forum with my full name, that then got duplicated everywhere and it still is on page one if you google me
814: [14:38:03] <patricknelson> in an alternate universe, I don't send this message. instead my message is "oh, what's your name? so I can check." ... then someone in that universe is going to be googling "swaiba" and end up finding your real name because you mentioned it here. correlating that with swaiba. then backtracking to something ever-more-incriminating.
815: [14:38:43] <patricknelson> but not this universe.
816: [14:38:45] <swaiba> you get plenty of junk for swaiba :)
817: [14:39:06] <patricknelson> googles.... amputeesexdolls.ru? hmmm
818: [14:39:34] <swaiba> wtf lol!
819: [14:39:44] <patricknelson> j/k don't go there. made that up.
820: [14:39:52] <patricknelson> would be funny if that's a real domain
821: [14:40:35] <patricknelson> according to http://who.su/, amputeesexdolls.ruis available!
822: [14:40:57] <patricknelson> alright guys stop distracting me, I have silverstripe-related work to do.
823: [14:46:36] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/xsLs_qKmAgAJ
824: [14:47:02] <patricknelson> heh, i didn't realize that happened.
825: [14:52:48] * Mike123 quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
826: [14:58:57] * patricknelson quit (Quit: Leaving.)
827: [15:33:05] * patricknelson has joined #silverstripe
828: [15:33:10] <patricknelson> it appears I was disconnected. explains the quiet.
829: [15:33:21] <patricknelson> quick question about the HTTP object, though. https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3/control/HTTP.php
830: [15:33:33] <patricknelson> is there any particular (SANE) reason for mixing lowerCamelCase with snake_case?!
831: [15:33:44] <patricknelson> it feels so... awkard.
832: [15:39:15] <kinglozzer> patricknelson: No, just the way it was before coding conventions were introduced, and not updated since
833: [15:39:39] <patricknelson> king, since you're here... here's the PR relating to why I mention that. https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4393
834: [15:39:50] <patricknelson> I actually will not attempt to setup a new method (which is why I asked)
835: [15:40:19] <patricknelson> my original PR/issue was regarding the fact that because so much global state is being used here AND no injector, I had no way to prevent the system from clobbering my cache control headers
836: [15:40:23] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
837: [15:40:25] <patricknelson> and you argued on my behalf.
838: [15:40:53] <patricknelson> I set cache control headers earlier on in the request lifecycle, and RIGHT at the end, there's this in Controller->handleRequest()
839: [15:40:56] <patricknelson> ContentNegotiator::process($this->response);
840: [15:40:56] <patricknelson> HTTP::add_cache_headers($this->response);
841: [15:42:29] <patricknelson> so -- i was thinking -- should I maybe setup a config parameter e.g. Config::inst()->get('HTTP', 'OverrideCacheHeaders')?
842: [15:42:37] <patricknelson> and then check that to enable/disable overriding?
843: [15:42:58] <patricknelson> with the default being "true" in order to completely remove any negative impact
844: [15:43:15] <patricknelson> (again even though I think it's a bug to default to true)
845: [15:44:30] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
846: [15:44:36] <patricknelson> kinglozzer :)
847: [15:46:49] <kinglozzer> patricknelson: Yeah I can't really remember much detail about the original PR (and the commit is lost somewhere in those 900 other ones!). Seems to me like we'd be adding a config flag just to work around a bug, which is probably the wrong approach.
848: [15:47:25] <kinglozzer> Like Dan said, the HTTP class itself is a bit old and inextensible... my guess is that it's a pre-open source relic that's just never been updated
849: [15:47:50] <kinglozzer> Pending a bigger review of that, I think we can still use the original fix (i.e. check if cache headers are already set before adding them)
850: [15:48:06] <patricknelson> ok
851: [15:49:03] <patricknelson> i agree, actually.
852: [15:49:42] <kinglozzer> It's a "band-aid" like Dan said, but we can't refactor the entire class/SS_HTTPResponse class for 3.2.1 so I think it's the best we can do
853: [15:49:49] <patricknelson> just being cautious since it's possible, but when you think about it, maybe unlikely that this functionality (ability to manually enable/disable) is really needed. i just fear that maybe someone is currently depending on the bug.
854: [15:50:39] <patricknelson> like, they're accidentally/haphazardly setting some random header that may have negative effects they're unaware of and thankfully it's clobbering those headers with a better value.
855: [15:50:57] <patricknelson> and suddenly they update to 3.2.1 (or some higher 3.2.x version) and end up with a broken site.
856: [15:51:10] * patricknelson computing.
857: [15:51:21] * patricknelson calculates it's worth risk.
858: [15:51:29] * patricknelson also considers that he is lazy.
859: [15:51:39] <kinglozzer> Yeah, but we can't always guard against developer mistakes... every change/fix we make has the potential to break something for someone if they're doing it wrong
860: [15:52:01] <patricknelson> :)
861: [15:55:02] <patricknelson> kinglozzer - new PR https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4673
862: [15:55:08] <patricknelson> so you can see the current code so far at least.
863: [15:56:11] <patricknelson> just slapping that up there for something to gander at
864: [15:56:57] <kinglozzer> Cool, might take a look over the weekend if I get time :)
865: [15:57:01] <kinglozzer> But for now, home time!
866: [15:57:06] <kinglozzer> Cy'all
867: [15:57:10] <patricknelson> cya.
868: [15:57:59] * kinglozzer quit ()
869: [16:01:05] * stnvh quit (Quit: quit)
870: [16:07:06] <Pywvlmk> reet
871: [16:07:09] <Pywvlmk> ciao
872: [16:07:10] * Pywvlmk quit ()
873: [16:13:03] * MarcGuay quit (Quit: Leaving)
874: [16:13:33] * swaiba quit (Remote host closed the connection)
875: [16:16:23] * Copperis has joined #silverstripe
876: [16:17:39] * muskie9 quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
877: [16:43:47] * NETim_ quit (Quit: Leaving)
878: [16:46:52] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/i5_Y5BitAgAJ
879: [17:22:52] * wmk has joined #silverstripe
880: [17:41:15] * joelpitt_ has joined #silverstripe
881: [17:43:36] * guci0 quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
882: [17:46:36] * joelpitt_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
883: [18:22:24] * terryapodaca has joined #silverstripe
884: [18:30:06] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
885: [18:40:55] * zlinux has joined #silverstripe
886: [19:01:43] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
887: [19:13:05] * wmk quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
888: [19:42:07] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
889: [19:46:38] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
890: [19:55:01] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
891: [19:55:35] * GioVdK quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
892: [19:57:45] * vanny has joined #silverstripe
893: [19:58:09] <vanny> howdy all
894: [20:04:03] <terryapodaca> happy Friday
895: [20:04:29] <patricknelson> and a glorious friday to you.
896: [20:04:43] <vanny> anyone had the fun of integrating into payjunction
897: [20:05:13] <terryapodaca> new nic Pat?
898: [20:05:29] <patricknelson> yep. going for the longer one.
899: [20:05:33] <patricknelson> so it matches my github username.
900: [20:06:00] <terryapodaca> yeah, I went with firstlast name for just about all my stuff too
901: [20:06:06] <terryapodaca> makes it easier for people to find me
902: [20:06:07] <terryapodaca> :D
903: [20:06:10] <patricknelson> on a conference call right now :(
904: [20:20:18] <muskie9> patricknelson made me think of this: http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/125916753821/tech-people-at-video-conferences
905: [20:20:32] <patricknelson> yeah
906: [20:21:12] * UndefinedOffset quit (Quit: Leaving.)
907: [20:21:32] <terryapodaca> haha, that's a great site!
908: [20:21:40] <terryapodaca> gotta bookmark it
909: [20:36:02] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
910: [21:07:59] * muskie9 quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
911: [21:09:22] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
912: [21:11:38] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
913: [21:17:59] * vanny quit (Quit: Page closed)
914: [21:43:02] * joelpitt_ has joined #silverstripe
915: [21:47:36] * joelpitt_ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
916: [21:49:54] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
917: [22:02:05] <patricknelson> if you like that: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/
918: [22:04:08] * terryapodaca quit (Quit: Leaving.)
919: [23:02:40] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/ji_YlJ3BAgAJ
920: [23:04:17] * muskie9 quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
921: [23:32:43] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/z5c2WADDAgAJ
922: [23:43:53] * joelpitt_ has joined #silverstripe
923: [23:47:45] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: SilverStripe 4.0 File management and DBFile validation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/cMRZ8HVe4Os/fWf0gtnDAgAJ
924: [23:48:11] * joelpitt_ quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

These logs were automatically created by ss-log on irc.freenode.net.