#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 26 August 2015

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2: [00:02:17] <Colin[pi]> wtf
3: [00:02:22] <Colin[pi]> google is being weird for me in ff
4: [00:02:35] <Colin[pi]> if I type quickly, it lses lttrs
5: [00:02:51] <Colin[pi]> like when it does the autosuggest
6: [00:02:52] <Colin[pi]> :\
7: [00:04:27] <zippy> spronk: use rackspace for email. $2
8: [00:04:48] <spronk> o?
9: [00:04:49] <spronk> linky?
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11: [00:09:02] <irogue-5> rackspace == mailgun afaik
12: [00:13:24] <spronk> hmm
13: [00:13:28] <spronk> rackspace email doesn't look all that good
14: [00:14:26] <zippy> m?
15: [00:14:33] <spronk> its preeeetty basic
16: [00:14:37] <spronk> and you have to pay for push notifications
17: [00:14:42] <zippy> it does imap
18: [00:14:45] <zippy> all I need :)
19: [00:15:09] <zippy> [11:59:22] <spronk> why can't they offer a LOW cost plan that doesnt include most of the other junk
20: [00:15:11] <zippy> nuk minute
21: [00:15:18] <zippy> [12:14:33] <spronk> its preeeetty basic
22: [00:15:24] <spronk> lol
23: [00:15:26] <spronk> yeah, but there's basica
24: [00:15:28] <spronk> basic
25: [00:15:30] <zippy> just no pleasing you is there
26: [00:15:32] <spronk> and there's... baaaaaasssic
27: [00:16:45] <spronk> basically what i want is google apps... but without phone support. and without 30gb of space.
28: [00:17:08] <spronk> aaand without all those dumb auxiliary apps like hangouts
29: [00:17:11] <irogue-5> $50/yr is pretty fucking cheap, to be fair
30: [00:17:16] <spronk> i dno
31: [00:17:22] <spronk> it isn't really
32: [00:17:24] <spronk> i can get an entire vps at DO for that
33: [00:17:38] <Colin[pi]> spronk: vps for $50/y?
34: [00:17:41] <spronk> yeah man
35: [00:17:43] <Colin[pi]> wtf
36: [00:17:44] <spronk> $5/mo, 10% off
37: [00:18:05] <irogue-5> spronk: host your own email server tho :P
38: [00:18:07] <irogue-5> *then
39: [00:18:10] <spronk> yeahhh
40: [00:18:12] <spronk> nah
41: [00:18:17] <spronk> been there
42: [00:18:17] <spronk> fuck that
43: [00:18:20] <irogue-5> exactly
44: [00:18:31] <irogue-5> is $4.16 a month worth not having to put up with that shit?
45: [00:18:34] <spronk> no
46: [00:18:40] <spronk> no it isn't
47: [00:18:43] <spronk> also
48: [00:18:51] <spronk> the pricing model is fucked
49: [00:18:52] <spronk> per user?
50: [00:18:57] <spronk> what if i have 3 users
51: [00:18:58] <zippy> just go back to posting letters...
52: [00:19:00] <spronk> for myself
53: [00:19:02] <zippy> 50c stamp...
54: [00:19:04] <zippy> way cheaper
55: [00:19:10] <spronk> i have to pay $15?
56: [00:19:14] <irogue-5> why would you have 3 users for yourself? thats what filters and labels are for
57: [00:19:26] <spronk> irogue-5 well, i have multiple domains
58: [00:19:31] <spronk> and i want to keep the inboxes completely separate
59: [00:19:44] <irogue-5> i'm like... polar opposite of that
60: [00:19:50] <irogue-5> I have a ton of domains and forward them all to one inbox
61: [00:19:52] <spronk> my client combines them all
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63: [00:20:17] <irogue-5> to be fair, gmail sucks at multiple domain handling
64: [00:20:36] <spronk> as does google apps free
65: [00:20:46] <irogue-5> does the whole "on behalf of" bullshit if you try and do multiple domains with one inbox
66: [00:20:55] <spronk> but yeah.. i use like 1gb
67: [00:21:07] <zippy> spronk: $2
68: [00:21:11] <zippy> imap
69: [00:21:12] <zippy> lots of space
70: [00:21:14] <zippy> can't go wong
71: [00:21:16] <spronk> zippy but i want push notifications
72: [00:21:17] <zippy> chong
73: [00:21:22] <zippy> naw
74: [00:21:26] <zippy> there is probably a service or app for that
75: [00:21:30] <spronk> there is
76: [00:21:33] <spronk> for $1/usr
77: [00:21:35] <spronk> at rackspace
78: [00:21:40] <zippy> $3 then
79: [00:21:44] <spronk> but then there are more reasons to use google
80: [00:21:51] <spronk> like MFA for the web interface
81: [00:22:27] <irogue-5> as someone who used to have a Windows Phone, I can attest to email without push notifications being stupid
82: [00:22:53] <chocolatemoose> does anyone have a mailer example using attachments?
83: [00:23:07] <irogue-5> fucking Google killing their ActiveSync so they could force people into using their app instead of the phone's email client
84: [00:23:30] <spronk> mm..
85: [00:23:51] <spronk> google is the biggest NIH syndromee in the world
86: [00:23:56] <spronk> even worse than microsoft
87: [00:24:06] <irogue-5> ya
88: [00:24:10] <irogue-5> they're so bad
89: [00:24:54] <spronk> then they're all
90: [00:24:56] <spronk> but we're webscale
91: [00:25:07] <Hailwood> Hey folks has anyone had success using lumberjack together with a modeladmin?
92: [00:25:08] <irogue-5> Exchange ActiveSync is an open technology, doesn't have to be licensed or anything. super effective for push notifications, unlike most attempts at adding push to IMAP using long polling.
93: [00:25:14] <spronk> mm
94: [00:25:23] <spronk> but they can't put ads or tracking on it
95: [00:25:23] <spronk> so
96: [00:25:25] <spronk> no $
97: [00:25:26] <irogue-5> but its a microsoft tech so google don't want to use it, even though they have been for ages and already have it working
98: [00:25:56] <irogue-5> spronk: yup that too
99: [00:28:10] <spronk> anyone else had the shitty new burgerfuel shakes?
100: [00:28:15] <ss23> me
101: [00:28:21] <ss23> not that good
102: [00:28:24] <spronk> fucking shit
103: [00:28:40] <spronk> also, no lime banana or vanilla.
104: [00:28:51] <spronk> the three flavours i would have the most.
105: [00:29:28] <irogue-5> wait bf changed their shakes?
106: [00:29:32] <spronk> also, $5.50!?
107: [00:29:35] <spronk> irogue-5 yeah, they're like half the size now
108: [00:29:45] <irogue-5> fuck dat
109: [00:29:46] <spronk> but according to BF, have "premium ingredients"
110: [00:29:54] <spronk> and .. only choc, strawberry, and caramel flavours now
111: [00:30:01] <spronk> still $5.50 or $5.90 or wahtever they were
112: [00:30:06] <spronk> ripoff extreme
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117: [00:33:34] <DanaeNZ> uarghh what a long meeting
118: [00:33:54] <DanaeNZ> get to have the pleasure of integrating a SOAP API in XML
119: [00:34:01] <DanaeNZ> bluirhghghgh
120: [00:34:58] <spronk> i'd just quit
121: [00:35:00] <spronk> at that point, DanaeNZ
122: [00:37:31] <RyanPotter> Why does the onmatch fire, but I can’t call any of the methods unless I rtefresh the page????????????? http://kopy.io/keqsb
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134: [01:01:30] <DanaeNZ> subwaaaaay
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136: [01:01:43] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: EAT FRESH
137: [01:03:18] <DanaeNZ> it's a meatball kinda day
138: [01:03:22] <Colin[pi]> mmm
139: [01:03:27] <DanaeNZ> balls
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142: [01:14:54] <chocolat_> has anyone used this? https://github.com/mrkdevelopment/silverstripe-mailgun
143: [01:21:57] <DanaeNZ> from the other room: "Oooooh! His brains! His brains are coming out!!"
144: [01:22:00] <DanaeNZ> o_____o
145: [01:22:31] <muskie9> DanaeNZ I have visuals in my brains now lol
146: [01:22:59] <DanaeNZ> there was something about "Popping it himself with scissors" on a video
147: [01:23:06] <DanaeNZ> I noped right out of that one
148: [01:23:15] <muskie9> that never ends well
149: [01:27:05] <irogue-5> [12:33:54] <DanaeNZ> get to have the pleasure of integrating a SOAP API in XML
150: [01:27:07] <irogue-5> story of my life
151: [01:27:37] <DanaeNZ> guh
152: [01:27:46] <irogue-5> seriously, I'm about to start a piece of work involving 1 JSON REST and 4 SOAP XML integrations
153: [01:27:55] <xyphoid> soapUI is your friend
154: [01:29:17] <irogue-5> be easier if they actually supplied us with correct WSDLs, but that's a lot to ask from some vendors
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156: [01:30:43] <Hailwood> Hey folks, I've taken the GridFieldSiteTreeAddNewButton from Lumberjack and am trying to alter it for my purposes - Anyway it's almost working, the issue I am running into is that it's state isn't getting added to the gridfield state - https://gist.github.com/hailwood/5d5d3dad6d061fd5d9de
157: [01:32:13] <Hailwood> Any ideas what's going on? I can dump out $gridField->State->GridFieldCustomSiteTreeAddNewButton at the bottom of getHTMLFragments and get back what I expect, but GridFieldCustomSiteTreeAddNewButton is nowhere to be found by the time it reaches handleAction
158: [01:32:33] <xyphoid> irogue-5: haha i remember doing a job where they'd turned off wsdl for 'security reasons'
159: [01:32:55] <xyphoid> so we were reduced to writing our own by hand against the API
160: [01:33:00] <irogue-5> yep, done that
161: [01:34:45] <DanaeNZ> ugh get outta here numeric keys
162: [01:34:47] <irogue-5> this is what I mostly have to talk to using SOAP: http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/business-process-manager-advanced
163: [01:34:48] <DanaeNZ> dman
164: [01:35:35] <irogue-5> also, fucking IBM product descriptions sound to me like someone hit a button on a buzzword generator
165: [01:35:46] <irogue-5> "IBM® Business Process Manager Advanced is a unified platform for analyzing and improving business operations through a combination of business process and basic case management, service-oriented architecture (SOA) and business process analytics."
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167: [01:36:46] <irogue-5> "IBM Business Process Manager on Cloud is a highly available and scalable process application deployment environment secured and managed by IBM—and is security compliant with key industry standards and certifications and provides a secure single sign-on using Security Assertion Markup Language (SAML)."
168: [01:38:41] <DanaeNZ> count the number of times it says "Business" lol
169: [01:39:55] <irogue-5> bahaha, now that I have, I can't stop noticing it
170: [01:42:17] <zippy> I like soap
171: [01:42:24] <zippy> reminds me of that java movie trailer
172: [01:42:28] <zippy> VIA SOAAP VIA SOOAAP
173: [01:42:48] <zippy> (for the uneducated - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLO1djacsfg )
174: [01:43:40] <chocolat_> haha, amazing
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178: [01:55:42] <RyanPotter> zippy: holy shit, that was good.
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180: [01:56:59] <zippy> RyanPotter: maybe Antmas was the boy..
181: [01:59:34] <DanaeNZ> ohmg zippy XD
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183: [01:59:56] <spronk> ohhhhh
184: [01:59:57] <spronk> i remember this
185: [02:00:46] <RyanPotter> !note nippys
186: [02:00:53] <RyanPotter> !notes nippys
187: [02:00:54] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
188: [02:01:01] <spronk> :O
189: [02:01:09] <spronk> !notes hosting
190: [02:01:10] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/hosting
191: [02:01:12] <spronk> awesome
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193: [02:01:27] <zippy> christ
194: [02:01:34] <zippy> next thing you guys will want is like
195: [02:01:38] <zippy> !gif foobar
196: [02:01:39] * spronk needs to make a subsites page
197: [02:01:40] <spronk> :D
198: [02:01:50] <zippy> and it pulls out a gif assocaited with foobar
199: [02:01:55] <zippy> !gif set http://....
200: [02:02:04] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: did you lock down the nippys page?
201: [02:02:18] <RyanPotter> Need to add my photo, man
202: [02:02:51] <DanaeNZ> yes zippy
203: [02:03:02] <irogue-5> RyanPotter: I changed it to only be able to be edited by people I added to the contributors group
204: [02:03:03] <DanaeNZ> but then Stomach would add chickenbutt to every keyword
205: [02:03:08] <irogue-5> wikis are open for anyone to edit by default
206: [02:03:19] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: I am part of the contributers aren’t I?
207: [02:03:22] <irogue-5> yup
208: [02:03:29] <irogue-5> not letting you edit anymore?
209: [02:03:34] <RyanPotter> No
210: [02:03:37] <DanaeNZ> :<
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212: [02:04:12] <irogue-5> ohh
213: [02:04:13] <irogue-5> missed a step
214: [02:04:17] <irogue-5> try now RyanPotter
215: [02:04:32] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: there we go :)
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217: [02:06:35] <spronk> lul
218: [02:06:41] <DanaeNZ> YAS XML YOU MUTHAFUCKA I DEFEATED YOU
219: [02:07:13] <RyanPotter> !notes nippys
220: [02:07:13] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
221: [02:07:14] <DanaeNZ> needs to be uglier RyanPotter XD
222: [02:07:16] <RyanPotter> There we go.
223: [02:07:34] <RyanPotter> WHERE IS ANTMAS
224: [02:07:39] <DanaeNZ> i know right!
225: [02:07:41] <RyanPotter> WE NEED MORE NIPPY'S
226: [02:07:44] <Colin[pi]> the picture is mirrored
227: [02:07:47] <Colin[pi]> UNACCEPTABLE
228: [02:08:04] <DanaeNZ> oh shit the nippy's logo is backwards
229: [02:08:10] <DanaeNZ> too lazy to fix :|
230: [02:08:34] <Colin[pi]> is nippys in Australia?
231: [02:08:39] * Colin[pi] has never seen afaik
232: [02:08:47] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: It’s because it transends dimensions.
233: [02:10:43] <chocolatemoose> I want this house http://imgur.com/topic/Awesome/HtqtG
234: [02:10:56] <RyanPotter> chocolatemoose: hnnng
235: [02:11:26] <Colin[pi]> that's cool
236: [02:11:30] <RyanPotter> “Do you hate your house guests? Invite them to your couch, and then murder them with your bed”
237: [02:11:42] <Colin[pi]> they've used those fucking lenses to make it look like the size of a battleship though
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239: [02:13:03] <chocolatemoose> http://yo.co.uk/home/faqs/ "Can I get trapped in the ceiling?"
240: [02:13:08] <chocolatemoose> shame :(
241: [02:13:25] <RyanPotter> lol
242: [02:14:20] <chocolatemoose> another 15 years and they'll just 3D print them like that
243: [02:14:26] <zippy> http://i.imgur.com/sPAq7ml.jpg awesome fort
244: [02:14:47] <RyanPotter> zippy: sex nook**
245: [02:15:25] <RyanPotter> zippy: http://i.imgur.com/gjFKXqU.jpg
246: [02:15:39] <zippy> lol
247: [02:16:05] <RyanPotter> can confirm, is fun.
248: [02:18:17] <samlander> ryan
249: [02:18:21] <samlander> do you like HP
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251: [02:22:44] <RyanPotter> samlander: http://i.imgur.com/MyVIM.gif
252: [02:22:51] <RyanPotter> :P
253: [02:23:00] <samlander> wife and i was watching dragon heart tonight
254: [02:23:09] <samlander> and im like "holy shit that's ramus"
255: [02:23:14] <samlander> the spoiled prince
256: [02:23:35] <samlander> then one of his henchmen showed up and im like holy shit that's malfoy
257: [02:23:39] <samlander> lucius
258: [02:24:18] <DanaeNZ> someone say harry potter ? :D
259: [02:24:30] <samlander> yeah
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261: [02:24:35] <samlander> i made a discover today
262: [02:24:36] <DanaeNZ> .... :D
263: [02:24:45] <samlander> ramus lupin and lucious malfoy are both in the movie dragonheart
264: [02:24:52] <samlander> much younger versions at least :)
265: [02:24:57] <DanaeNZ> oh the actors?
266: [02:24:59] <samlander> yeah
267: [02:25:01] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
268: [02:25:09] <DanaeNZ> I think i vaguely knew malfoy was in it
269: [02:25:29] <samlander> but it was weird seing the actor who played lupin as the spoiled king in dragonheart
270: [02:25:44] <DanaeNZ> i imagine so
271: [02:25:49] <DanaeNZ> i don't remember much of the moview
272: [02:25:50] <samlander> *shruggles*
273: [02:25:51] <DanaeNZ> movies
274: [02:26:04] <samlander> im so freaking tired
275: [02:26:07] <DanaeNZ> i don't even think I've seen the fifth one...
276: [02:26:14] <samlander> but the client is happy, so there's that
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280: [02:30:55] <DanaeNZ> ok now that that xml parsing is done, time to move onto more xml parsing
281: [02:32:30] <xyphoid> one of those ones where you get XML out of a SOAP field?
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285: [02:39:50] <DanaeNZ> nah just plain xml
286: [02:40:43] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: please see PR
287: [02:40:54] <DanaeNZ> RyanPotter: this PR may fix that issue you raised
288: [02:41:04] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: hmm?
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290: [02:41:10] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5630 (3.2 - b49149d : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
291: [02:41:10] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/f7c19830d663...b49149d9d273
292: [02:41:10] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77258666
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294: [02:41:29] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: why don’t we just use issues?
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296: [02:41:54] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: Not an actual issue
297: [02:42:00] <DanaeNZ> RyanPotter: oh snap, didn't know you could do that
298: [02:42:12] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: yeah, that’s how you add images to your readmes :P
299: [02:42:18] <DanaeNZ> that sounds hacky
300: [02:42:25] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-cms-theme/issues/1
301: [02:42:31] <spronk> o_O
302: [02:42:55] <DanaeNZ> madness
303: [02:43:09] <RyanPotter> #githubtipsandtricks
304: [02:45:44] <DanaeNZ> haha it got merged anyway
305: [02:45:45] <irogue-5> I see no reason not to have an assets dir - not like its a repo we care about messing up the history for
306: [02:45:53] <DanaeNZ> yahooo
307: [02:46:01] <RyanPotter> Because I cbf loading assets :P
308: [02:46:02] <DanaeNZ> well we got the mirrored ones now anyway
309: [02:46:26] <DanaeNZ> !notes SeriousBusiness
310: [02:46:27] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/SeriousBusiness
311: [02:48:17] <spronk> oh my fucking god
312: [02:48:27] <spronk> have you all seen todd maclane try to answer norman's yes/no question?
313: [02:48:34] <irogue-5> bahaha yes
314: [02:49:35] <irogue-5> also seen the principals union saying that schools may have to stop doing camps or any other external activities cos of the new H&S legislation?
315: [02:49:43] <spronk> what
316: [02:49:45] <irogue-5> and yet people still call Labour the nanny state party...
317: [02:50:10] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: jesus...
318: [02:50:21] <spronk> wow
319: [02:50:24] <spronk> lavender farming is considered dangerous?
320: [02:50:28] <spronk> but dairy farming isn't?
321: [02:50:36] <irogue-5> worm farming also dangerous
322: [02:50:54] <irogue-5> fairly obvious that the omission of dairy farming was due to some $$ changing hands...
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325: [02:52:24] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1414 (3.2 - b26b6c3 : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
326: [02:52:25] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/da348f74e838...b26b6c3ecafb
327: [02:52:25] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/77258785
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329: [02:53:15] <spronk> wow.
330: [02:54:27] <RyanPotter> Fixed all the entwine bugs YAY! http://i.imgur.com/s3U8J1k.gifv
331: [02:55:40] <irogue-5> spronk: also, https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/news/late-addition-of-national-security-provisions-concerns-law-society
332: [02:55:56] <spronk> mm
333: [02:56:30] <irogue-5> "The processes inserted by Schedule 2A directly impact on very significant constitutional rights. Because Schedule 2A was not in the Bill when introduced, it has not been subject to the Bill of Rights vetting process and will miss public consultation and input."
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335: [02:56:50] <irogue-5> the fact that a bill can be changed *after* being vetted against the Bill of Rights seems like bug
336: [02:56:56] <irogue-5> can we please submit a PR to our democracy?
337: [02:57:03] <irogue-5> ty
338: [02:57:16] <zippy> 30 years eh!
339: [02:57:18] <zippy> https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/back-in-the-day-microsoft-windows-95-software-goes-on-sale-for-first-time-q07598
340: [02:57:21] <spronk> ikr
341: [02:57:25] <spronk> man
342: [02:57:26] <spronk> windows 95
343: [02:57:31] <zippy> 20 :)
344: [02:57:34] <spronk> the last version of windows that felt really consistent and put together
345: [02:57:37] <zippy> jeapers not 30 :)
346: [03:00:16] <irogue-5> spronk: yeah, agreed. cos they mostly started from scratch for 95 instead of just layers upon layers
347: [03:00:25] <spronk> mm
348: [03:00:29] <spronk> win95 feels really nice, tbh
349: [03:00:33] <spronk> all the icons look the same
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351: [03:00:36] <spronk> all the ui looks the same
352: [03:00:41] <spronk> its siiick
353: [03:01:10] <irogue-5> if it wasn't for the lack of security patches I'd probably happily still use Win2k
354: [03:03:06] <spronk> lolya
355: [03:04:08] <zippy> man, win2k was the tits
356: [03:04:25] <zippy> that'd be pretty fast these days..
357: [03:04:30] <spronk> super duper fast
358: [03:04:42] <zippy> spronk: not long now until update... I have high hopes
359: [03:04:54] <spronk> yeahh
360: [03:04:57] <spronk> i'm like
361: [03:04:59] <spronk> days away
362: [03:05:05] <spronk> from wiping my hdd and installing windows
363: [03:05:41] <irogue-5> win2k was awesome
364: [03:06:13] <irogue-5> NT kernel so stable as fuck, but you could install DirectX on it unlike on any previous versions of NT, so it was actually useful as a desktop
365: [03:06:28] <spronk> mm
366: [03:06:42] <spronk> its interesting to see how much more advanced NT is than ... basically any other mainstream kernel
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368: [03:07:02] <spronk> microsoft have been completely hamstrung by their idiotic development environment churn
369: [03:07:49] <irogue-5> having 9x and NT side-by-side was so dumb considering how advanced NT was
370: [03:08:10] <spronk> dos brah
371: [03:08:19] <irogue-5> it'd be like Apple considering to make new versions of MacOS Classic after they released OSX
372: [03:08:32] <irogue-5> *continuing
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374: [03:09:02] <spronk> you mean mac os 9.2
375: [03:09:52] <irogue-5> "ok guys, we've got a new OS that's built on BSD, but we should keep releasing versions of this virus-laden piece of utter shit for home users"
376: [03:10:10] <spronk> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Windows_95_at_first_run.png
377: [03:10:13] <spronk> i mean.... loooooook at it
378: [03:10:21] <spronk> it's gooorgeous in its own way
379: [03:11:03] <zippy> I look at that picture, and hear dial-up sounds
380: [03:11:39] <spronk> http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/win95osr2.png
381: [03:12:41] <spronk> then they released Plus! and ooohmygod THEMES
382: [03:12:41] <spronk> http://36.media.tumblr.com/2f001e45ffd92e00829710dc5d210a99/tumblr_n0wlitWNhX1t2as4so2_1280.png
383: [03:12:57] <irogue-5> I remember upgrading from Win 3.1 to WfW 3.11 so I could use the internets
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385: [03:13:31] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5631 (3.2.0-rc1 - b49149d : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
386: [03:13:31] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/3.2.0-rc1
387: [03:13:31] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77259374
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389: [03:13:36] <spronk> hah
390: [03:13:47] <irogue-5> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Windows_for_Workgroups.png
391: [03:14:06] <DanaeNZ> omg didn't the Friends cast do a skit on Windows 95?
392: [03:14:15] <spronk> holy shit
393: [03:14:21] <spronk> you can install windows 98 plus themes
394: [03:14:23] <spronk> ON WINDOWS 7
395: [03:14:26] <DanaeNZ> and they are sitting round trying to teach Rachel about the start menu
396: [03:14:32] <spronk> ya
397: [03:14:36] * spronk vaguely remembers this
398: [03:16:58] <RyanPotter> *something opens on windows 8* “How do I close this? ESC, IT DOES NOTHING!?”
399: [03:17:05] <irogue-5> remember the music video that came on the Windows 95 CD to show off the awesome new multimedia functionality?
400: [03:17:24] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: probably :D
401: [03:17:48] <irogue-5> was a horrificly low res and bitrate version of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4
402: [03:18:08] <irogue-5> but at the time I remember being like OMG AWESOME
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405: [03:21:57] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1415 (3.2.0-rc1 - b26b6c3 : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
406: [03:21:57] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/3.2.0-rc1
407: [03:21:57] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/77259393
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409: [03:28:05] <spronk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwZKjqhnDI
410: [03:28:08] <spronk> if you don't appreciate this, you suck.
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412: [03:28:34] <zippy> oh yes..
413: [03:28:53] * chocolatemoose quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
414: [03:28:59] <zippy> spronk: I see your Tiberium sun, and I raise you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUWUtTZvK4
415: [03:29:01] <Colin[pi]> spronk: dem memories
416: [03:29:20] <Colin[pi]> zippy: yes!!!
417: [03:29:27] <spronk> Hell march ftw
418: [03:29:32] * spronk wants a proper remake of C&C
419: [03:29:40] <spronk> openRA is pretty good, but...
420: [03:29:52] <spronk> they could totally just remake the original game, original units, high def graphics that are true to the originals
421: [03:30:03] <spronk> modern ui with waypoints, build queues, zui etc
422: [03:30:10] <Colin[pi]> I will always love this track too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJl8t55yFbw
423: [03:30:17] <irogue-5> all the old games need the OpenTTD treatment
424: [03:30:35] <spronk> openra, irogue-5 ?
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426: [03:31:10] <spronk> http://www.moddb.com/mods/tiberian-sun-rising
427: [03:31:11] <irogue-5> spronk: yup, is getting there
428: [03:31:13] <spronk> there are some preeeeetty good mods
429: [03:31:17] <irogue-5> also CorsixTH
430: [03:31:31] <spronk> th was such a rad game
431: [03:31:41] <irogue-5> OpenTTD has been around for ages though so is insanely stable and has had really good features added (like online multiplayer)
432: [03:31:53] <spronk> mm
433: [03:31:57] <spronk> openRA is near perfect for the original two games
434: [03:32:05] <spronk> voxel engine support is coming ... soon
435: [03:32:05] <spronk> ish
436: [03:32:06] <irogue-5> OpenTTD was done by the original (before it got bought by BT and went shit) uTorrent developer
437: [03:32:10] <spronk> mm..
438: [03:32:29] <irogue-5> was like :o when I found that out - pretty different projects to be known for
439: [03:32:36] <spronk> mm v
440: [03:35:30] <DanaeNZ> OpenTTD :D
441: [03:35:46] <DanaeNZ> everytime I just think in my head "toooot toooot" of a train
442: [03:36:49] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: lol
443: [03:37:10] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jltKnDlH_OA
444: [03:37:16] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: you play?
445: [03:37:20] <DanaeNZ> lmao
446: [03:37:25] <DanaeNZ> I used to play a bit yeah
447: [03:37:34] <DanaeNZ> is it still going strong?
448: [03:37:37] <irogue-5> yup
449: [03:37:39] <DanaeNZ> nice
450: [03:37:41] <irogue-5> should multiplayer it sometime ^_^
451: [03:37:49] <DanaeNZ> once i get internet haha
452: [03:37:54] <irogue-5> haha
453: [03:38:12] <irogue-5> I'm so happy I decided to get cable in the interim
454: [03:38:18] <DanaeNZ> internet update - this morning I left the house and beside the front step was a mysterious coil of wire leading under the house
455: [03:38:19] <irogue-5> still nothing on the fibre front...
456: [03:38:24] <spronk> wow
457: [03:38:25] <spronk> really
458: [03:38:27] <spronk> :|
459: [03:38:33] <DanaeNZ> i haven't had an update
460: [03:38:44] <DanaeNZ> and I don't think the coil goes into the ground anywhere
461: [03:38:55] <DanaeNZ> and my landlord hasn't said anything
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463: [03:40:28] <spronk> interesting
464: [03:40:36] <spronk> man... red alert holds up surprisingly well
465: [03:43:07] <Colin[pi]> spronk: sure does
466: [03:46:16] <Colin[pi]> spronk: though I'm on the Deus Ex soundtrack now
467: [03:48:06] <irogue-5> jew sex
468: [03:48:47] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: lol I said it that way at first
469: [03:50:39] <Colin[pi]> Object->__call(): the method 'cunt' does not exist on 'ArrayList'
470: [03:50:44] <Colin[pi]> dat typo
471: [03:50:48] <Colin[pi]> was meant to be count :(
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474: [03:52:28] <chocolat_> lol
475: [03:53:06] * max_Q quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
476: [03:54:54] <chocolat_> is it possible to do a redirect in a ReqyestFilter ?
477: [03:55:29] <chocolat_> *Request
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479: [03:58:13] <spronk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD01LB8hoZ0 fuck yeah. the indoor missions... and the cutscenes
480: [03:58:14] <spronk> so awesome
481: [03:58:23] <spronk> i think i'm gonna have to dig out my old C&C cds
482: [03:58:29] <spronk> and play through the missions again
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489: [04:11:23] <Hailwood> Hey guys, we have an issue of some of our assets keep disappearing, The client says they didn't touch it, so is there any sort of logging or versioning in SS for assets?
490: [04:12:09] <muskie9> Hailwood not out of the box afaik
491: [04:12:25] <muskie9> there is this: https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-versionedfiles
492: [04:13:07] <Hailwood> Darn, ok next question - if files are linked to from a dataobject, will silverstripe let you delete them without unlinking the ID (note that the entire row is gone from File, but the ID is still set in our data objects table)
493: [04:13:08] <muskie9> and this: https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-dms
494: [04:14:50] <muskie9> I'm not sure on it deleting from the related object, but it definitely wouldn't be deleted if the object still has the ID of the asset... the only thing I can think of is if 2 objects utilized a single asset, and one deleted it, the other may still have the asset ID saved
495: [04:15:20] <muskie9> but I'm not 100% sure on how SS handles the delete vs unlink when an asset is shared across objects
496: [04:15:28] <irogue-5> yeah client might be clicking delete instead of unlink
497: [04:15:42] <zippy> yea, on an different object which has the same image
498: [04:16:00] <zippy> got database backups?
499: [04:17:28] <chocolatemoose> ugh, can't figure out redirecting in requestfilters
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502: [04:20:45] <ss23> urgh
503: [04:20:46] <ss23> my client is dumb
504: [04:20:53] <ss23> if I'm op'd, I can't change topic easily
505: [04:21:01] <irogue-5> wtf
506: [04:21:20] <Stomach> clients gonna client
507: [04:21:23] * ss23 changed the topic to ' Welcome to #silverstripe | Ask your questions! | Dev Mailing List: http://silverstripe.org/dev-list | IRC Logs: http://silverstripe.org/irc-logs | Feature requests: http://silverstripe.uservoice.com | Latest stable release: http://silverstripe.org/download | Archive: http://silverstripe.org/release-archive | EU Conf: http://silverstripe-europe.org | SS 3.2.0 RC1: http://goo.gl/7b0Ybm'
508: [04:21:30] * ss23 changed the topic to 'Welcome to #silverstripe | Ask your questions! | Dev Mailing List: http://silverstripe.org/dev-list | IRC Logs: http://silverstripe.org/irc-logs | Feature requests: http://silverstripe.uservoice.com | Latest stable release: http://silverstripe.org/download | Archive: http://silverstripe.org/release-archive | EU Conf: http://silverstripe-europe.org | SS 3.2.0 RC1: http://goo.gl/7b0Ybm'
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510: [04:29:54] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3.2.0 rc1 Announcement - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/OEEYu8RAQ50/-gEUkAMNJQAJ
511: [04:30:14] <zippy> woo
512: [04:30:43] * wmk has joined #silverstripe
513: [04:30:43] <zippy> ss23: I thought you didn't do versions in the title?
514: [04:30:50] <ss23> Well someone did it before me
515: [04:30:53] <zippy> ss23: unlock the bot..
516: [04:30:54] <ss23> I prefer not to
517: [04:30:58] <ss23> IT'S ON MY FUCKING LIST M8
518: [04:31:16] <zippy> you got 1 thing to do!!
519: [04:31:22] <ss23> I GOT MORE THAN 1
520: [04:31:29] <Stomach> WOAH
521: [04:31:35] <zippy> the rest are just ones you made up!!
522: [04:31:35] <Stomach> CHILL OUT GUYS
523: [04:31:39] <Stomach> GO AND GET A NIPPYS
524: [04:31:43] <Stomach> !notes Nippys
525: [04:31:43] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Nippys
526: [04:31:47] <DanaeNZ> (.Y.)
527: [04:31:54] <Stomach> DanaeNZ has her nipples back
528: [04:31:57] <Stomach> thats good news
529: [04:32:02] <Stomach> no more bum chest
530: [04:32:04] <zippy> Stomach: I wonder if it should lowercase them..
531: [04:32:06] <DanaeNZ> yeah i had some coffee nips today
532: [04:32:22] <zippy> ah, doesn't seem to make a difference
533: [04:32:29] <zippy> ss23 knows im playing :)
534: [04:32:38] <ss23> 16:31:44 < ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Nippys
535: [04:32:39] <ss23> rifk
536: [04:32:40] <ss23> rofl
537: [04:32:42] <ss23> what is this from?
538: [04:32:46] <ss23> zippy: <3
539: [04:32:50] <Stomach> !notes blue-v
540: [04:32:50] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/blue-v
541: [04:33:06] <DanaeNZ> impressive moustache game Stomach
542: [04:33:07] <DanaeNZ> ll
543: [04:33:17] <ss23> um
544: [04:33:20] <ss23> I'm noticing a problem with that wiki
545: [04:33:25] <ss23> There is a distinct lack of chickenbut
546: [04:33:27] <Stomach> NO SS23
547: [04:33:28] <ss23> Can this please be fixed?
548: [04:33:29] <ss23> ASAP.
549: [04:33:33] <spronk> lul
550: [04:33:34] <Stomach> CHICKENBUTT
551: [04:33:36] <Stomach> THEY HATE IT
552: [04:33:40] <Stomach> :'(
553: [04:33:41] <DanaeNZ> !notes chickenbutt
554: [04:33:41] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/chickenbutt
555: [04:33:48] <DanaeNZ> needs an entry ha
556: [04:33:53] <zippy> ss23: after the bot can check the forum, then you get but
557: [04:33:56] <zippy> *butt
558: [04:34:01] <ss23> okay
559: [04:34:03] <ss23> I will fix tonight
560: [04:34:03] <ss23> o/
561: [04:34:04] <ss23> :D
562: [04:34:24] <Stomach> have fixed it
563: [04:34:31] <DanaeNZ> i don't wanna look
564: [04:34:33] <zippy> Stomach: that beard is cranking
565: [04:34:45] <ss23> A+ chickenbut
566: [04:34:48] <ss23> NOW WITH EXTRA BUTT.
567: [04:34:51] <spronk> kekek
568: [04:34:52] <DanaeNZ> XD
569: [04:35:15] <ss23> posted on work slack
570: [04:35:23] <ss23> giggled loudly as I did it, so the team KNOWS
571: [04:35:27] <Stomach> I post it at the designers all the time
572: [04:35:35] <Stomach> they hate it
573: [04:35:37] <Stomach> its awesome
574: [04:35:38] <DanaeNZ> well at least it's not just us
575: [04:35:41] <ss23> I've gotten in trouble for posting stuff like that before
576: [04:35:46] <ss23> So now I only post it in smaller places
577: [04:35:51] <Stomach> lol really?
578: [04:36:00] <ss23> Not that specifically, but yeah
579: [04:36:04] <DanaeNZ> clients websites?lol
580: [04:36:07] <Stomach> I guess you're a family friendly workplace
581: [04:36:12] <spronk> wow
582: [04:36:23] <Stomach> zippy - getting there :D
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584: [04:38:29] <zippy> Stomach: cricket stream will be on http://cricket.co.za/ down bottom left, make it full screen, quality is pretty good
585: [04:38:34] <ss23> http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012014/1392140383_small_dog_dances_on_chair.gif
586: [04:38:41] <Stomach> mint
587: [04:38:47] * wmk quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
588: [04:38:57] <Stomach> ss23 :D
589: [04:39:01] <irogue-5> as long as you're not on a callplus isp
590: [04:39:07] <irogue-5> or has that been fixed now?
591: [04:39:15] <zippy> slingshit?
592: [04:39:25] <irogue-5> slingshit or orcon
593: [04:39:45] <DanaeNZ> ss23: XD
594: [04:40:00] <irogue-5> due to some remnants of the global mode system, the live streaming provider didn't identify callplus users as NZers
595: [04:40:12] <Stomach> ruts
596: [04:40:33] <DanaeNZ> yo what's the status on global mode now anyway? my old flat still gets Netflix
597: [04:40:38] <DanaeNZ> they are with Orcon
598: [04:40:43] <ss23> Netflix is in NZ now
599: [04:40:44] <ss23> :P
600: [04:40:49] <ss23> You get way less shows though, so I still proxy
601: [04:40:51] <DanaeNZ> Netflix NZ is sux tho right
602: [04:41:04] <ss23> Global mode is de-facto illegal, AKA big corporations said "don't do it" and no one has the money to go up against them even though it'd probably be legal.
603: [04:41:12] <ss23> No ISP is doing it any more
604: [04:41:32] <DanaeNZ> maybe Orcon left it on for older customers
605: [04:41:32] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: I think officially it doesn't exist anymore, and you can't enable it anymore, but quietly callplus don't actually seem to have turned it off for existing users
606: [04:41:35] <ss23> It's fucked up right, cause even though it's probably legal, the mere threat of taking people to court is enough to make it not happen just like if it was illegal.
607: [04:41:43] <DanaeNZ> shits fucked yo
608: [04:41:50] <ss23> FUCK SOCIETY
609: [04:41:56] <irogue-5> fsociety
610: [04:42:19] <ss23> Not to be confused with my new band, funk society.
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612: [04:43:36] <spronk> jesus christ os x.... how long was that.. 8 minutes ? for a fucking upgrade
613: [04:44:52] <zippy> yea I use a proxy as well.
614: [04:44:55] <zippy> irogue-5: ;-)
615: [04:45:27] <zippy> Mr Robot, eps 1 was good eh. 2,3,4 was pretty avg, I almost gave up. but been good since. I think 6 or 7 was one of the best.
616: [04:45:30] <irogue-5> guess i shouldn't call them callplus anymore, they're M2 now
617: [04:45:45] <spronk> o_o
618: [04:46:07] <irogue-5> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Group
619: [04:47:59] <irogue-5> they could totally rename 2talk to M2talk for a sweet branding win
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623: [05:00:33] <spronk> http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/39176
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625: [05:01:36] <DanaeNZ> man i can't watch politics
626: [05:01:40] <DanaeNZ> too cringe
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635: [05:11:55] <spronk> mm...
636: [05:15:02] <ss-helper> Extended PSR-2 Recommentation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/_ebPef7HgKQ/JZA73fM4KwAJ
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640: [05:21:21] <Colin[pi]> ss-helper: o/
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642: [05:25:26] <Colin[pi]> how do I disable assets showing up in search results again?
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646: [05:30:37] <irogue-5> Colin[pi]: ??
647: [05:30:37] <Colin[pi]> good arvo sminnee_
648: [05:30:47] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: nm I found it
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650: [05:30:53] <RyanPotter> !notes chickenbutt
651: [05:30:53] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/chickenbutt
652: [05:30:56] <RyanPotter> lol.
653: [05:31:00] <Colin[pi]> lel
654: [05:31:38] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: i.e. $SearchForm->classesToSearch(array('SiteTree'));
655: [05:31:38] <sminnee_> Hi Colin[pi]
656: [05:32:03] <sminnee_> RyanPotter: wtf?
657: [05:32:09] <Colin[pi]> hahaha
658: [05:32:19] <RyanPotter> sminnee_: You obviously don’t come on IRC mucxh :P
659: [05:32:29] <RyanPotter> Okay, hometime. Later brobeans
660: [05:32:36] <Colin[pi]> cyas
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662: [05:32:44] <sminnee_> Clearly I’m missing out RyanPotter
663: [05:33:19] <Colin[pi]> sminnee_: there's a running prank in here of tricking people to click a link to that gif instead of what they really wanted
664: [05:33:29] * Colin[pi] glares at Stomach
665: [05:33:30] <sminnee_> oh it’s like the new rickroll
666: [05:33:42] <Colin[pi]> sminnee_: basically, well the ss-irc rickroll it seems
667: [05:33:55] <Colin[pi]> !seen Stomach
668: [05:33:55] <ss-helper> Colin[pi]: I last saw Stomach 40 minutes ago
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693: [06:36:28] <Eliseth> morning
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707: [07:11:45] <Phalaon> Is it possible to add custom properties to BuildTask class?
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709: [07:16:09] <Phalaon> Nevermind found answer ;D
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717: [07:53:36] <swaiba> morning all
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720: [08:02:43] <Eliseth> morning
721: [08:03:18] <Eliseth> When I do a DataObject::get I get a DataList instead, how do I retrieve the object itself I need?
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727: [08:20:51] <swaiba> Eliseth DataObject::get()->first() ?
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730: [08:28:46] <Eliseth> right. thanks. >.<
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733: [08:29:07] <darjus01> have someone tried this? http://www.kreationsbyran.se/multilingual-module-for-silverstripe-3
734: [08:30:26] <wmk> darjus01, use fluent. or transalatable.
735: [08:31:06] <darjus01> cannot cliend byed this thing and told to use it
736: [08:31:10] <wmk> well, every system has its own specific flaws, depending on what you need....
737: [08:31:15] <wmk> *sigh* clients
738: [08:31:25] <wmk> and what's better than fluent?
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740: [08:31:57] <wmk> it's surely better than translatable (from the specs), but i never invested the money. and fluent is nice for having the same tree in every language
741: [08:32:18] <darjus01> I dont know yet just interested if some one used it. it dificult to install on clean install bacuase some classes are coded in cms core
742: [08:32:22] <wmk> but darjus01 if you have experiences with that code please tell us how it is
743: [08:32:36] <darjus01> ok no problem :)
744: [08:32:43] <wmk> some classes are overwriting cms core?
745: [08:32:51] <wmk> really?
746: [08:33:26] <wmk> i'd either tell the client he should order his money back or calculate some extra hours for fixing problems with that 3rd party software
747: [08:33:32] <darjus01> yes sort of for example i must cange class SiteConfig extends DataObject implements PermissionProvider, TemplateGlobalProvider -> class SiteConfig extends MultilingualSiteConfig implements PermissionProvider, TemplateGlobalProvider
748: [08:33:49] <wmk> NOOOOOOOOO
749: [08:33:55] <darjus01> in cms code siteconfig
750: [08:34:11] <wmk> never ever change code in other modules if you don't know what you do
751: [08:34:24] <wmk> so that module is bad design by default i guess
752: [08:35:01] <wmk> you can forget automatic updating with composer, you need your own fork cms kept up to date then
753: [08:35:22] <darjus01> and then you buy that module you dont get module you get all demo project just going in code you get how to install it on clean install no specifik docs :( so I thought that maybe some one used it
754: [08:35:23] <darjus01> :D
755: [08:35:46] <wmk> i'd look into fluents features and use this instead
756: [08:35:56] <Eliseth> We have simple answers for clients like that
757: [08:36:05] <Eliseth> It goes like this: "No."
758: [08:36:19] <darjus01> yes i know but cliend already buyed it without consulting with me
759: [08:36:26] <darjus01> so I must use this shit
760: [08:36:28] <Eliseth> Well, that's his problem
761: [08:36:37] <wmk> Eliseth, well, mine is a bit more expressive: "No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (only real with 42 exclamation marks)
762: [08:36:52] <wmk> darjus01, you don't have to use this shit
763: [08:36:59] <Eliseth> Is he hiring you as an authority in your area? (coding in this case)
764: [08:37:09] <wmk> if i buy the wront tires for my car, my mechanic doesn't have to use them
765: [08:37:32] <darjus01> yes and sometimes there is must use modules like this
766: [08:37:49] <wmk> does he need this module? or does he need that functionality?
767: [08:38:01] <wmk> and what's the killer feature of that module compared to fluent?
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769: [08:38:41] <SH__> Hey, does anyone have any experience optimising SQL queries in SilverStripe?
770: [08:39:04] <swaiba> SH__ yeah Silverstripe does... it's the ORM :)
771: [08:39:28] <wmk> SH__, don't subclass your dataobject too often i guess
772: [08:39:35] <wmk> use dataextensions
773: [08:39:39] <darjus01> he just didint know that is other multylang modules free and he just but this to spare time, and it bite me in ass :D I said for future work if you want work togever ask before spending 190euru on some crap
774: [08:39:41] <swaiba> on a more serious note you can take any query, and have the DB anaylse it for you and then you can set specfic where(" your sql ") after
775: [08:40:18] <wmk> darjus01, well, from my point of view: he has to spend much more money on your service installing this module
776: [08:40:33] <wmk> ain't there a money-back guarantee?
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778: [08:40:44] <darjus01> I dont know
779: [08:40:51] <Eliseth> Since when is it the clients job to find modules for the developer to work with?
780: [08:41:02] <Eliseth> He went where he never should've gone imo
781: [08:41:11] <SH__> Hmm alright thanks. Trying to figure out if Fluent module creates insane SQL queries which slow the site down
782: [08:42:06] <wmk> SH__, well, slow site could have many reasons
783: [08:42:17] <wmk> how about caching? or static publisher?
784: [08:42:45] <darjus01> He is half developer half manager so he thought that he spare some time, I gess.but doesnt matter now
785: [08:42:55] <Mike123> hey
786: [08:43:34] <Eliseth> It's like me telling my car repair guy "I want you to install a new exhaust, and I don't want you to use your tools. I bought a can opener for you to use instead"
787: [08:44:15] <Mike123> can i export all content from WISYWYG to word doc. ?
788: [08:45:08] <SH__> We are using partial caching for everything, and static publishing is not a good idea for this site. At the moment we're just looking for anything that slows it
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793: [08:49:44] <Eliseth> Speaking of translations
794: [08:50:00] <Eliseth> I've been using translatable
795: [08:50:18] <Eliseth> Is Fluent so much better?
796: [08:50:52] <swaiba> Mike123 I assum you mean the content in tinymce and yeah, open the page, save as HTML and then rename the extension to .doc
797: [08:50:59] <SH__> Well its creates columns instead of copying an entire page (row) . This lets you choose the fields you want to translate
798: [08:51:31] <SH__> This in turn creates a crazy amount of extra columns on for example rows in SiteTree table
799: [08:52:14] <Eliseth> Hmm
800: [08:52:20] <Eliseth> Not so sure if I like that
801: [08:54:29] <Mike123> swaiba , and if i need to export whole page info to .doc ?
802: [08:54:37] <Mike123> i mean from CMS
803: [08:55:05] <swaiba> same thing, get the html (anyway you like) and then save as .doc file
804: [08:55:13] <sminnee_> Eliseth: it’s simpler for bi-lingual or maybe tri-lingual sites, when only a few meta-data fields need translating.
805: [08:57:22] <SH__> We use Fluent on a site with 10 languages. It works well, but it just creates so many extra columns
806: [08:57:30] <Eliseth> I see. Well, I'll look into it if I ever encounter a situation where that is needed.
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811: [09:03:57] <darjus01> maybe someone know chinise mandarine code is same cn_CN ?
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814: [09:21:11] <SH__> Hey does anyone know why my SivlerStripe site's SiteTree_Live query has an "ORDER BY" at the end of it? Query might be faster without the sort
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824: [09:58:26] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/kinglozzer/sapphire/compare/7fc0a1d6ee4c...74adeeae58be
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831: [10:14:22] <sminnee_> SH__: because page order matters?
832: [10:15:26] <zippy> Hey Sam
833: [10:15:46] <zippy> I was thinking earlier (my wife says I love to bang on about things ;-))
834: [10:15:57] <zippy> SS3.X isn't php 7 compatible...
835: [10:16:06] <zippy> and 4 is a year away.
836: [10:16:25] <sminnee_> yep.
837: [10:19:00] <zippy> What if (crazy thought) 4 was pushed out in 4 months time with just whats needed to do php 7, and the rest is put in v5 and done to the same schedule as 4 would of been (so basically a year later).
838: [10:19:01] <zippy> That would be an easier upgrade... (I would think)
839: [10:19:01] <zippy> people on 3 could move to 4 easier, and likely wood given the very large performance increase of 7
840: [10:19:01] <sminnee_> I’d rather focus on 4, to be honest.
841: [10:19:01] <sminnee_> well, what you’re calling 5.
842: [10:19:01] <zippy> the downside is people would complain (xxx was meant to be in 4) but then it would come out at the same time anyway, just be in 5
843: [10:19:01] <sminnee_> but, it would push that out.
844: [10:19:01] <zippy> how so?
845: [10:19:01] <sminnee_> everything takes time,
846: [10:19:01] <zippy> indeed
847: [10:19:01] <sminnee_> so we’d spend time doing that.
848: [10:19:01] <zippy> which is going to have to be done regardless
849: [10:19:03] <sminnee_> adding an extra major release adds time. we have more branches to cross merge everything between.
850: [10:19:33] <sminnee_> i just don’t really see “you can uses PHP 7 a few months earlier” as particularly critical.
851: [10:19:50] <zippy> it's not really a few months earlier is it... it's going to be more like a year earlier
852: [10:20:05] <sminnee_> 4 months from now is November.
853: [10:20:11] <sminnee_> sorry, December.
854: [10:20:13] <sminnee_> January, really
855: [10:20:26] <sminnee_> I’d prefer to try and get a beta of SS4 out in Feb or March
856: [10:20:46] <sminnee_> And if people really want to upgrade to PHP7 early they could just run beta.
857: [10:20:46] <zippy> ah right, sorry I was thinking SS4 was going to be about Oct/Nov next year
858: [10:20:54] <sminnee_> well it would be if we go with your plan :P
859: [10:21:25] <zippy> so when do you want 4 out by? May?
860: [10:21:49] <sminnee_> not sure how long the beta->stable cycle would be but i’d expect 3 months at least
861: [10:22:27] <sminnee_> I was thinking more July
862: [10:22:27] <sminnee_> August
863: [10:22:31] <sminnee_> May would be pushing it.
864: [10:23:13] <sminnee_> Anyway, I’m outta here
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866: [10:23:22] <zippy> :)
867: [10:23:26] <zippy> I think, based on previous releases it will be more like Oct, but love to be proved wrong and well help test and prod it to get it done sooner.
868: [10:27:58] <ss23> Come on, get fixing bugs then!
869: [10:28:07] <ss23> Framework has over 400 issues man!
870: [10:28:46] <zippy> Unblock the bot :P
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872: [10:31:37] <zippy> hey UC
873: [10:31:43] <ss23> zippy: m8 it's on my list
874: [10:31:46] <ss23> I just dealt with a composer update
875: [10:31:55] <ss23> Took like 3 hours cause I kept going away to do other stuff while waiting for composer yto run
876: [10:31:59] <ss23> Cut me some slack m8
877: [10:32:12] <zippy> sorry :)
878: [10:32:46] <ss23> :D
879: [10:33:03] <ss23> People who use "package/name": "dev-master" are the worst
880: [10:33:24] <ss23> New version comes out that supports ss3.2 -> have to change composer.json drastically just to get it working how it used to be
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890: [11:10:49] <Mike123> why i am getting this error ? http://snag.gy/o5Dxy.jpg every time a want to enter some page in front
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892: [11:14:06] <ss23> Not sure
893: [11:14:09] <ss23> MAybe some kinf of weird SQL error
894: [11:14:12] <ss23> Custom code causing it maybe
895: [11:14:16] <ss23> Hard to know sorry
896: [11:14:38] <ss23> If you remove the BreadcrumbNavigation it should work .,looks like there's an error there
897: [11:17:13] <Mike123> thanks
898: [11:19:05] <darjus01> so if anyone intrested http://www.kreationsbyran.se/multilingual-module-for-silverstripe-3 this module is just like Fluent, what hi does just created columns inside DB with language code sufix, giving nice urls with /en /.. as you like now i will do frontend quering research and write results here
899: [11:19:12] <Eliseth> Any idea why security (lost password, etc) wouldn't show translations even though the rest of the site does?
900: [11:21:19] <ss23> Eliseth: Not that I can thikn of. As long as the locale is set globally, I tfigured it would work....
901: [11:21:53] <darjus01> I allways made own Security tempalte files su make sure its translatable
902: [11:23:35] <darjus01> one mounth ago I had that problem also Eliseth, so I made own template files because I looked to core and on that part there no t() made
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904: [11:23:57] <travis-ci> dhensby/silverstripe-cms#23 (3 - 1ada2da : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
905: [11:23:57] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/compare/ab5911361204...1ada2dab1dd8
906: [11:23:57] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/builds/77304034
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908: [11:24:10] <ss23> oh darjus01.. that sucks :(
909: [11:24:43] <darjus01> but that was on old project I dont know how its is now
910: [11:25:08] <darjus01> version was 3.1.6 i think
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914: [11:39:11] <Eliseth> Thanks darjus01, this is an older site as well, 3.1.6 maybe. I didn't see the issue in newer versions
915: [11:40:13] <darjus01> try to upgrade version, I couldnt bacouse of other developers touched core...
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917: [11:45:01] <lerni> despite there are 3k display I fail to see the benefit of a JPG with 3264x2176px & 2.3MB shown @747x498px :( http://www.silverstripe.org/blog/silverstripe-3-2-rc1-is-out/
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921: [11:46:16] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/compare/80aca3a51174...b26b6c3ecafb
922: [11:46:16] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/builds/77304062
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924: [11:52:42] <darjus01> lerni - max i think is needed to make is 1900px width no more if over make backgrounc cover and thats it.
925: [11:55:54] <lerni> darjus01: the same file is also shown on the "BlogHolder"
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927: [11:57:23] <lerni> well it gets cached that way but still, I think its ugly.
928: [11:58:08] <darjus01> yea if you have slow internet background will be loaded in long time
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932: [12:04:21] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/compare/bf6a84bd2fd0...3adef160349c
933: [12:04:21] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-cms/builds/77304076
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936: [12:06:25] <zippy> MyPage.ss.ss doesn't work very well eh
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940: [12:25:00] <cupcake> heyo o/
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942: [12:32:28] <swaiba> \o cupcake
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946: [12:40:08] <Eliseth> darjus01: upgrading didn't solve the issue... Since I like how everything works by default I wonder what the best way is to force it using my own templates without changing anything?
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948: [12:41:02] <travis-ci> dhensby/silverstripe-framework#477 (3.2 - b49149d : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
949: [12:41:02] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/compare/af5ef13e6c3d...b49149d9d273
950: [12:41:02] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/builds/77310095
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952: [12:42:26] <darjus01> Eliseth: you can make securyti function extentions that give you flexibility with templates
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955: [12:43:50] <darjus01> also can try this https://github.com/feejin/Silverstripe-SecurityTemplates
956: [12:44:08] <Eliseth> tnx
957: [12:44:43] <darjus01> I just puting Security_login.ss and lostpassword to Layout template and thats it
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961: [12:50:28] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/compare/0768434997ea...958f98b1cfa6
962: [12:50:28] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/builds/77310107
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967: [13:06:23] <Eliseth> Hmmm
968: [13:06:27] <Eliseth> Problem got stranger
969: [13:06:56] <Eliseth> Seems that the language yaml's aren't read or something on those pages
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976: [13:58:50] <bikeydz> HELP: how can I access $ThemeDir and $BaseHref in Javascript
977: [14:04:27] <swaiba> bikeydz you can output them into the temlpate as <script> var myVar='$ThemeDir'; </script>
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980: [14:12:05] <lerni> bikeydz: there is also Requirements::javascriptTemplate
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985: [14:24:41] <swaiba> bikeydz - what lerni said - I love learning new things in SS :)
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987: [14:37:47] <bikeydz> Thanks swaiba I will try that
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1001: [15:33:25] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Extended PSR-2 Recommentation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/_ebPef7HgKQ/rsOj6MxaKwAJ
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1003: [15:42:44] <swaiba> has anyone put sections of siteconfig into, say, another tab in model admin?
1004: [15:43:10] <swaiba> or maybe vice versa - put a ModelAdmin type interface within SiteConfig?
1005: [15:44:15] <kinglozzer> swaiba: Nope, but it's fairly simple to create a SiteConfig-like interface (i.e. ModelAdmin with one record)
1006: [15:44:26] <kinglozzer> I just basically copy + paste the SiteConfig controller :P
1007: [15:44:45] <swaiba> kinglozzer sounds like the best way round yeah
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1009: [15:52:29] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5640 (3 - 4ec6210 : Loz Calver): The build passed.
1010: [15:52:29] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/199f0ea92d89...4ec6210c98dd
1011: [15:52:29] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77344039
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1015: [15:57:07] <Guest41> I have a question about ss3 : http://www.silverstripe.org/au/community/forums/general-questions/show/104821
1016: [15:58:54] <swaiba> you can just add Journal to your ModelAdmin Guest41
1017: [15:59:04] <swaiba> then that will provide the options within that
1018: [16:00:10] <swaiba> and as I've answered and you've cross posted, please update the forum with the answer
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1020: [16:03:37] <Guest41> how to insert in the same GridField, some interviews and some post
1021: [16:04:46] <swaiba> Guest41 your question doesn't make sense if you literealy mean edit 3 really different objects in one table
1022: [16:05:03] <swaiba> I've told you the solution which is to add the Journal (or "root") model
1023: [16:05:12] <swaiba> and the others will be available as you add
1024: [16:05:14] <Guest41> Here is my relation inside the newspaper dataobject : private static $many_many_extraFields = array(
1025: [16:05:14] <Guest41> 'Interviews' => array(
1026: [16:05:15] <Guest41> 'SorterField' => 'Int',
1027: [16:05:15] <Guest41> ),
1028: [16:05:17] <Guest41> 'Articles' => array(
1029: [16:05:17] <Guest41> 'SorterField' => 'Int',
1030: [16:05:19] <Guest41> ),
1031: [16:05:19] <Guest41> );
1032: [16:05:29] <swaiba> if you want all three models editable then add all three to managed models
1033: [16:05:35] <muskie9> !paste
1034: [16:05:35] <ss-helper> Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
1035: [16:05:43] <swaiba> Guest41 please do not post like that and bump the screen up
1036: [16:05:57] <Guest41> sorry
1037: [16:06:03] <swaiba> and that makes no difference
1038: [16:06:10] <swaiba> it's still the same answer
1039: [16:06:42] <swaiba> the only way I know to get multiple models that are different into one gridfield is if they have the same route / summary fields
1040: [16:06:57] <Guest41> here is the code of my dataobject : http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dde40a9a21e
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1044: [16:09:31] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Extended PSR-2 Recommentation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/_ebPef7HgKQ/fJiDm3ZcKwAJ
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1082: [19:27:47] <darjus01> Hi all what is best pdf generator that generates pdf from html in SS?
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1087: [20:15:52] <ss-helper> Stop input field code from being escaped in SilverStripe - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32227243/stop-input-field-code-from-being-escaped-in-silverstripe
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1091: [20:31:05] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Extended PSR-2 Recommentation - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/_ebPef7HgKQ/Wv-KYXlqKwAJ
1092: [20:36:58] <darjus01> is some one used mPDF in silverstripe?
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1111: [21:10:27] <RyanPotter> What up, my glip glops?
1112: [21:10:52] <muskie9> scope creep sucks
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1114: [21:11:04] <helenclarko> Morning o/
1115: [21:13:44] <zippy> muskie9: true that, but sometimes I am worse than the customer
1116: [21:13:57] <zippy> 'it'd be better if'. "I don't like that, I am changing it"
1117: [21:14:17] <zippy> nek minute, 5 hours of unbillable work :)
1118: [21:14:30] <muskie9> same here, but I've been running into we need x, build for x, well now it needs to y so your x code is useless lol
1119: [21:14:45] <muskie9> used all hours building x
1120: [21:15:37] <muskie9> slap'm with a change order
1121: [21:15:39] <zippy> be hitting them a bill for that for sure :)
1122: [21:17:31] <RyanPotter> zippy: “nek minute, 5 hours of unbillable work”
1123: [21:17:36] <RyanPotter> you need a better contract.
1124: [21:17:49] <zippy> na, it's stuff I want to change myself
1125: [21:17:56] <RyanPotter> Oh, right :P
1126: [21:18:14] <zippy> if you build the site, and then spend a few hours refactoring the css can't really bill the customer for that (unless you still have some left over)....
1127: [21:18:26] <RyanPotter> Always overbill :P
1128: [21:18:28] <zippy> can spend all day tinking with things
1129: [21:18:29] <zippy> lol
1130: [21:18:39] <zippy> yea, but that leads to MORE work
1131: [21:18:49] <RyanPotter> Always lock your design down first, before your build. That way you won’t tinker foever :P
1132: [21:19:07] <zippy> I tinker with the php, so that wont help me
1133: [21:19:09] <zippy> :)
1134: [21:20:09] <RyanPotter> zippy: Well, yoiu’re fucked then :)
1135: [21:25:07] <irogue-5> mornin'
1136: [21:25:19] <zippy> o/
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1138: [21:30:13] <RyanPotter> 0/
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1142: [21:38:41] <Hailwood> Morning Folks
1143: [21:38:58] <RyanPotter> \o
1144: [21:41:24] <Hailwood> From what I can see with silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-memberprofiles I should be able to setup say a "customer MemberProfilePage at /account/customer" and "marketer MemberProfilePage at /account/marketing" and depending on which one the user goes through to sign up add them to different groups/require approval on marketing. Can anyone confirm this, or is it a single MemberProfilePage only?
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1146: [21:44:15] <helenclarko> Anyone else using AWS for hosting a SS site?
1147: [21:44:55] <RyanPotter> helenclarco: yup
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1149: [21:46:43] <helenclarko> RyanPotter, okay so, updated php and apache and the loadbalancer kicked up saying the site takes longer than 7 seconds to load. Rolled back php and apache and site is stable again.
1150: [21:47:01] <helenclarko> RyanPotter, Had any issues with updates?
1151: [21:47:05] <RyanPotter> helenclarko: Weird, what did you update it to?
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1153: [21:48:06] <helenclarko> RyanPotter, PHP 5.6.12 from 5.6.9
1154: [21:48:24] <RyanPotter> helenclarko: I think mine is still on 5.5
1155: [21:48:39] <RyanPotter> been awhile since I’ve touched that site.
1156: [21:48:46] <RyanPotter> but never had an issue with upgrading.
1157: [21:49:20] <helenclarko> Neither had I until after 5.6.9
1158: [21:49:42] <helenclarko> they are all just minor updates too.
1159: [21:50:03] <RyanPotter> Sorry, mna. No ide.
1160: [21:50:07] <RyanPotter> idea
1161: [21:53:39] <helenclarko> RyanPotter, Not sure if its a SS issue really. I'll just stick to 5.6.9 for now.
1162: [21:53:46] <zippy> bad node?
1163: [21:53:48] <RyanPotter> helenclarko: Good plan.
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1166: [22:01:03] <zippy> spronk: o/
1167: [22:02:00] <spronk> no mcwhopper
1168: [22:02:02] <spronk> :'(
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1173: [22:04:44] <DanaeNZ> morning
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1176: [22:06:17] <spronk> allo
1177: [22:06:30] <chocolatemoose> o/
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1185: [22:11:10] <antmas> o/ all
1186: [22:12:38] <irogue-5> !notes nippys
1187: [22:12:39] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
1188: [22:12:54] <RyanPotter> :D
1189: [22:12:58] <RyanPotter> MORE NIPPY'S
1190: [22:13:08] <RyanPotter> GO TO YOUR LOCAL SERVICE STATION, PEOPLE.
1191: [22:13:22] <DanaeNZ> YAY :D
1192: [22:13:34] <irogue-5> we need to get all of the flavas on there
1193: [22:13:35] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: good effort A+
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1195: [22:13:46] <DanaeNZ> i might redo mine, yours are too serious XD
1196: [22:13:55] <DanaeNZ> pros: get to have more nippys
1197: [22:14:35] <irogue-5> I feel like we need to form a company just so we can use these photos as our staff profiles
1198: [22:18:13] <RyanPotter> does this README.md make sense to people? https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-design-field
1199: [22:18:22] <antmas> irogue-5: DanaeNZ RyanPotter A+
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1201: [22:19:00] <camfindlay> irogue-5: http://worldonline.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2008/04/23/080428timanderic-inside_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067
1202: [22:19:23] <DanaeNZ> XS
1203: [22:19:25] <DanaeNZ> i mean XD
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1205: [22:23:37] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: yeah, and I like the grouping of the padding/marging
1206: [22:23:49] <Zauberfisch> however, I don't like that it appears to happen magically
1207: [22:24:00] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Magically?
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1209: [22:24:26] <Zauberfisch> as in, the example does not seem to specify that the paddings should be in such a square
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1211: [22:24:48] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Sorry, I don’t quite understand.
1212: [22:25:17] <Zauberfisch> also, I am not sure I like the class Design
1213: [22:25:28] <irogue-5> https://media.giphy.com/media/862U5nF51e4da/giphy.gif
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1215: [22:25:33] <Zauberfisch> 1. to generic name (class name conflicts with other modules)
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1217: [22:26:12] <RyanPotter> Good point.
1218: [22:26:15] <Zauberfisch> 2. I feel like the data should be serialised instead (eg using the MultiValueField module)
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1220: [22:27:25] <RyanPotter> I like it as a json object, so I can do stuff with it that isn’t just outputting it inline.
1221: [22:27:46] <PapaBearNZ> Hi all. Does anyone have an example in a SS site - where a long running PHP script is called (from a link or via AJAX) that shows progress? I had one in a previous 2.4 build but it was a nasssty hack and I'd rather not put it into a production build if there is a better option.
1222: [22:27:56] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: json vs serialise: same difference
1223: [22:28:07] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: use the multivalue module. it takes care of getters/setters for you
1224: [22:28:31] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: this one? https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-multivaluefield
1225: [22:28:36] <Zauberfisch> yes
1226: [22:29:55] <Zauberfisch> private static $db = ['MyDesign' => 'MultiValueField'];
1227: [22:29:57] <Zauberfisch> then you can do:
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1229: [22:30:43] <Zauberfisch> $obj->MyDesign->setValue(['padding-top' => '10px', 'padding-right' => '20px']);
1230: [22:30:53] <RyanPotter> Ah, right.
1231: [22:31:02] <Zauberfisch> and $obj->MyDesign->getValue() to get the array back
1232: [22:31:19] <RyanPotter> I think I may do a little re-factoring in a bit, but because I leave the country in three days I may leave it for now :P
1233: [22:31:23] <Zauberfisch> and the module takes care of saving that into the database and getting it back out and convert it back to an array
1234: [22:31:43] <RyanPotter> Being able to set individual values is defs a good thing to have
1235: [22:33:12] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Example of when the top and bottom are set only: http://i.imgur.com/yXB4KKw.png
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1237: [22:33:28] <RyanPotter> I like to have those auto generate just from a ux perspective.
1238: [22:33:41] <RyanPotter> a list of textfields would be large.
1239: [22:35:59] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: agreed, that it's good to define your own fields
1240: [22:36:11] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: but, I dislike that there is a extra rule for margin and padding
1241: [22:36:17] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Fair enough.
1242: [22:36:26] <RyanPotter> I could add a config to enable it or something/
1243: [22:36:51] <Zauberfisch> yeah, but then again, perhaps that would be overengeneering
1244: [22:37:03] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: You mean the most fun part?
1245: [22:37:09] <Zauberfisch> :D
1246: [22:37:13] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: my case is, what if I had top, right, bottom, left
1247: [22:37:20] <Zauberfisch> then it wouldn't make it such a nice thing
1248: [22:37:30] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: one sec
1249: [22:37:32] <Zauberfisch> or border
1250: [22:37:51] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: border does the same thing, it’s just not set there.
1251: [22:38:05] <Zauberfisch> or what if I wanted to have checkboxes in such a grid, to say like "select which sides you want to enable a border on"
1252: [22:38:41] <RyanPotter> And have an overriding size textbox or something?
1253: [22:38:57] <Zauberfisch> idk. didn't think that far ahead
1254: [22:39:00] <RyanPotter> :P
1255: [22:39:06] <RyanPotter> These are the fun things.
1256: [22:39:20] <Zauberfisch> but I often have the usecase that I need a checkbox for "border-top" and "border-bottom"
1257: [22:39:41] <Zauberfisch> I want them to be able to select if there is a border, but I don't want them to be able to select the size, that is defined by me
1258: [22:39:52] <Zauberfisch> give as little control as needed to the user
1259: [22:39:56] <RyanPotter> that’s a nice idea actually.
1260: [22:40:04] <RyanPotter> Wouldn’t be hard to implement.
1261: [22:40:05] <novaweb> Hay Franz, any experts in compass, looking for some guidance on debugging media queries/break points
1262: [22:40:29] <Zauberfisch> novaweb: use the breakpoint module
1263: [22:40:30] <novaweb> Following the bootstrap documentation throws an invalid css error for me
1264: [22:40:37] <Zauberfisch> bootstrap? :O
1265: [22:40:45] <Zauberfisch> oh, right, there is a sass version of that
1266: [22:40:45] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: I’ve considered just having a chzn box for the padding/margin that’s just xs/sm/md/lg/xl etc that would just add a class.
1267: [22:41:00] <RyanPotter> so you don’t have people fucking around too much.
1268: [22:41:06] <novaweb> upgrading compass for now to see if it fixes the error
1269: [22:41:09] <RyanPotter> and you can keep your css handling everything
1270: [22:41:11] <chocolatemoose> bootstrap 4 has switched to sass as the primary preprocessor too iirc
1271: [22:41:20] <RyanPotter> because sass is the beeeest
1272: [22:41:37] <chocolatemoose> yuuup
1273: [22:41:52] <Zauberfisch> oh, nice
1274: [22:42:07] <Zauberfisch> just had to port my requirements module to less D:
1275: [22:42:16] <Zauberfisch> though I still use sass myself
1276: [22:42:21] <chocolatemoose> they also dropped IE8 support and added opt-in flexbox
1277: [22:42:38] <novaweb> This: http://pastie.org/10378080 anything wrong? My error: Invalid CSS after "...ia (max-width: ": expected expression (e.g. 1px,
1278: [22:42:39] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Why?
1279: [22:42:47] <novaweb> The error contradicts the bootstrap docs
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1281: [22:43:10] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: working togehter with another dev who uses less. and he is doing the front end stuff, so it's not up to me to decide
1282: [22:43:14] <chocolatemoose> you're missing a }
1283: [22:43:16] <chocolatemoose> at the end
1284: [22:43:30] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: Lame.
1285: [22:43:40] <RyanPotter> Zauberfisch: what’s this, 2013?
1286: [22:44:03] <darjus01> I have invoice dataobject and I am generating PDF file for ir so I making invoidcePDF object so to add it to incoice object as relation and put it to DB that file i generate?
1287: [22:44:18] <novaweb> Sorry chocolatemoose, the closing is further down the code
1288: [22:44:28] <novaweb> just showing the lines throwing the error
1289: [22:44:30] <novaweb> thanks though
1290: [22:44:53] <RyanPotter> novaweb: is @screen-sm-min a defined function?
1291: [22:45:08] <novaweb> RyanPotter, doesn't bootstrap.min.css define it?
1292: [22:45:18] <RyanPotter> novaweb: the scss will.
1293: [22:45:26] <RyanPotter> but you’ll have to be in the scss file
1294: [22:45:29] <RyanPotter> not the css file
1295: [22:45:43] <novaweb> yeah I'm in _layout.scss
1296: [22:45:44] <RyanPotter> @screen-sm-min means nothing in css
1297: [22:45:51] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: woot?
1298: [22:46:00] <RyanPotter> novaweb: shift click it.
1299: [22:46:07] <Zauberfisch> RyanPotter: 2013?
1300: [22:46:07] <novaweb> in Atom?
1301: [22:46:10] <RyanPotter> see where it goes, and if it’s actually returning a value
1302: [22:46:19] <Zauberfisch> oh, you are refering to less
1303: [22:46:20] <Zauberfisch> I see
1304: [22:46:27] <novaweb> Not less, sass
1305: [22:46:31] <novaweb> I think...
1306: [22:46:38] <novaweb> Yeah I'm in sass
1307: [22:46:41] <RyanPotter> novaweb: Yeah, any IDE should support finding methods
1308: [22:46:53] <RyanPotter> novaweb: he’s talking about something else :P
1309: [22:47:06] <novaweb> OK
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1311: [22:47:14] <novaweb> Yeah no, shift click does nothing
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1314: [22:47:22] <Zauberfisch> novaweb: ignore me, was talking to RyanPotter
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1316: [22:47:36] <RyanPotter> novaweb: Then just do a search for it.
1317: [22:47:42] <RyanPotter> Should be in the variables folder
1318: [22:47:42] <novaweb> Roger
1319: [22:47:47] <RyanPotter> or the mixins
1320: [22:47:49] <RyanPotter> functions etc
1321: [22:47:57] <RyanPotter> Haven’t played with bootstrap 4 yet./
1322: [22:48:06] <RyanPotter> Pretty sure they have mixins for them though
1323: [22:48:09] <novaweb> Yeah shit it's not in there
1324: [22:48:10] <novaweb> thank you
1325: [22:48:13] <novaweb> i'll go digging
1326: [22:48:25] <novaweb> I just assumed if it was in the bs docs, it would work out the box
1327: [22:49:17] <RyanPotter> novaweb: you’re using 4?
1328: [22:49:51] <RyanPotter> If so you should use: @include media-breakpoint-up(sm) {}
1329: [22:49:59] <irogue-5> and probably not use 4, cos its in alpha :P
1330: [22:50:09] <RyanPotter> yeah, don’t use 4 yet.
1331: [22:51:07] <RyanPotter> If you want flexbox gids just use foundation for now./
1332: [22:51:10] <novaweb> nah, govt project
1333: [22:51:36] <novaweb> 3.3.5
1334: [22:52:03] <darjus01> if I have pdf file how to write it to database and add to invoice?
1335: [22:52:39] <RyanPotter> novaweb: then use @media (max-width: $screen-sm-min) { ... }
1336: [22:53:18] <novaweb> fkit
1337: [22:53:21] <RyanPotter> darjus01: you can’t write a pdf to the database. You can save a dataobject and refrence a file to the database.
1338: [22:53:23] <novaweb> declaring my own variables
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1340: [22:53:32] <RyanPotter> novaweb: $screen-sm-min is what you want.
1341: [22:53:39] <novaweb> $mobile, $tablet, $laptio
1342: [22:53:43] <novaweb> it's still saying undefined
1343: [22:53:43] <RyanPotter> No.
1344: [22:53:46] <RyanPotter> Don’t use those.
1345: [22:53:51] <RyanPotter> Bad novaweb
1346: [22:53:54] <novaweb> hahaha
1347: [22:53:59] <novaweb> ok i'll spend 5 more minutes
1348: [22:54:02] <darjus01> for example new File() $file->filnema = ...
1349: [22:54:06] <RyanPotter> literally $screen-sm-min
1350: [22:54:16] <RyanPotter> is the variable in 3.3
1351: [22:54:25] <RyanPotter> if you’re using bootstrap-sass
1352: [22:54:52] <novaweb> I'm just using bootstrap.css and then running compass watch on my own scss files
1353: [22:55:05] <novaweb> that's probably the problem huh
1354: [22:55:05] <RyanPotter> novaweb: Why?
1355: [22:55:31] <novaweb> https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap-sass ?
1356: [22:55:55] <RyanPotter> novaweb: you got it.
1357: [22:56:00] <RyanPotter> get your bower on, son.
1358: [22:56:06] <novaweb> do I run the installer in my themes/my-theme/ dir?
1359: [22:56:29] <novaweb> Sorry I could figure this out myself but deadlinz yo
1360: [22:57:14] <zippy> god, bower
1361: [22:57:15] <zippy> what next
1362: [22:57:17] <antmas> I love how we have a UA server but no one tests
1363: [22:57:20] <antmas> :|
1364: [22:57:21] <antmas> fml
1365: [23:02:02] <spronk> hm
1366: [23:02:15] <spronk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owmNCfi0Ke8 just go listen to this
1367: [23:02:21] <spronk> fuck testing
1368: [23:02:25] <spronk> FIGHT WIN PREVAIL
1369: [23:03:28] <chocolatemoose> aha! finally figured out this stupid gridfield problem
1370: [23:03:45] <zippy> lol
1371: [23:03:51] <zippy> spronk: still got those tunes cumming eh
1372: [23:04:52] <zippy> I can hear "affermative" but it's not spoken..
1373: [23:04:55] <chocolatemoose> stuck on this lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OopYRt_-4Ls
1374: [23:04:57] <zippy> ready and waiting
1375: [23:05:00] <zippy> yes sir
1376: [23:05:09] <spronk> alright then
1377: [23:05:19] <zippy> when was the last good RTS game?
1378: [23:05:24] <spronk> coh?
1379: [23:05:31] <spronk> supcom maybe?
1380: [23:06:03] <spronk> there are only a handful of good rts games anyway
1381: [23:06:09] <zippy> yea
1382: [23:06:21] <zippy> I should really finish that starcraft 2 blades of whatever
1383: [23:06:29] <zippy> didn't mind starcraft 2
1384: [23:06:39] <spronk> C&C, RA, TS, RA2, C&CG, C&C3, WC2, SC, SC2, DoW, CoH, SupCom, TA
1385: [23:06:45] <spronk> KKND perhaps
1386: [23:06:48] <spronk> homeworld
1387: [23:07:02] <zippy> mm generals was good
1388: [23:07:03] <spronk> some might say AoE series, RoN and empire at war
1389: [23:07:14] <DanaeNZ> Starcraft 2 campaign was the first and only RTS campaign I finished, lol
1390: [23:07:25] * spronk still hasn't got starcraft 2...
1391: [23:07:34] <zippy> you didn't do the RA campaings?
1392: [23:07:39] <spronk> played lots of SC back in the day..
1393: [23:07:41] <DanaeNZ> RA?
1394: [23:07:44] <spronk> omg the C&C campaigns were eeeeepic
1395: [23:07:45] <zippy> red alert
1396: [23:07:46] <DanaeNZ> red alert?
1397: [23:07:47] <spronk> all of them
1398: [23:07:52] <DanaeNZ> nah i never played red alert
1399: [23:07:53] <spronk> TD, RA, TS
1400: [23:07:55] <spronk> ra2 got a bit cheesyt
1401: [23:07:56] <spronk> -t
1402: [23:07:58] <DanaeNZ> only rts I played was AOE
1403: [23:08:01] <zippy> need to be playing those camiangs
1404: [23:08:04] <zippy> the videos
1405: [23:08:08] <spronk> mm
1406: [23:08:09] <zippy> cut-scenes and stuff
1407: [23:08:14] <spronk> back when games were made well
1408: [23:08:18] <spronk> none of this AAA fluff
1409: [23:08:18] <zippy> yea
1410: [23:08:20] <chocolatemoose> no Empire at War?
1411: [23:08:20] <DanaeNZ> RTS too frustrating for me
1412: [23:08:20] <chocolatemoose> :D
1413: [23:08:26] <zippy> used to hack that ra.ini file
1414: [23:08:26] <DanaeNZ> my macro is shitty
1415: [23:08:38] * spronk said empire at war :p
1416: [23:08:42] <RyanPotter> zippy: you don’t like bower? :P
1417: [23:08:48] <spronk> actually i'd probably add emperor battle for dune to the list
1418: [23:08:51] <zippy> haven't touched it, another can of worms
1419: [23:08:53] <zippy> oh yea
1420: [23:08:55] <spronk> it wasn't as good as the rest of the westwood games but it was passable
1421: [23:08:58] <chocolatemoose> spronk: did not see that
1422: [23:09:01] <zippy> dune 2...
1423: [23:09:03] <RyanPotter> zippy: just the same as composer/npm
1424: [23:09:07] <spronk> dune 2000 was disappointing
1425: [23:09:16] * spronk never really got into dune 2
1426: [23:09:16] <zippy> I didn't mind it
1427: [23:09:25] <spronk> mainly because by that point i'd already played C&C
1428: [23:09:31] <zippy> ah
1429: [23:09:32] <spronk> and obelisks of light were far too cool
1430: [23:09:40] <zippy> yea dune 2 came before cc for me
1431: [23:09:46] <RyanPotter> spronk: Tiberian sun?
1432: [23:09:52] <spronk> RyanPotter TS
1433: [23:09:52] <spronk> :P
1434: [23:09:59] <spronk> <3 tiberian sun
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1436: [23:10:02] <zippy> those nod cannons
1437: [23:10:04] <RyanPotter> I haaated TS
1438: [23:10:04] <spronk> probably my fav of the C&C games
1439: [23:10:06] <zippy> and stealth tanks
1440: [23:10:12] <RyanPotter> Red alert 2 Yuri’s revenge was my jam
1441: [23:10:17] <spronk> heh
1442: [23:10:19] <spronk> YR was pretty good
1443: [23:10:31] <zippy> alright, I need to do some work..
1444: [23:12:13] <darjus01> can i make this: $newfile = $pdf->write(); and then get id by $newfile->ID?
1445: [23:12:49] <chocolatemoose> $pdf->write(); $pdf->ID
1446: [23:19:19] <DanaeNZ> darjus01: just go $id = $pdf->write()
1447: [23:19:28] <DanaeNZ> write always returns $id
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1449: [23:21:38] <darjus01> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55de49e807858 maybe you see mistake order not pudating
1450: [23:21:43] <darjus01> *updating
1451: [23:27:03] <DanaeNZ> darjus01: Your Order class - does it have a $has_one relation with a InvoicePDF object?
1452: [23:27:20] <DanaeNZ> It looks like you should be using the ORM functions instead of straight SQL
1453: [23:27:22] <darjus01> yes solver by other
1454: [23:27:32] <darjus01> $order->InvoicePDFID = $newfile;
1455: [23:27:32] <darjus01> $order->write();
1456: [23:28:27] <darjus01> how to check in object if IvoicePDF is existing?
1457: [23:28:50] <chocolatemoose> $order->InvoicePDF()->exists()
1458: [23:29:01] <darjus01> nice
1459: [23:29:03] <darjus01> thx
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1463: [23:49:36] * irogue-5 plans his phpconf schedule
1464: [23:50:17] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: 9am Contreu
1465: [23:51:26] * darjus01 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1466: [23:52:06] <irogue-5> the 3 sessions done by SS employees are being done here at the office too for those not going to phpconf - which means at the conf I can go to the other session on at the same time :D
1467: [23:52:30] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: what’re the topics?
1468: [23:52:34] <ss23> PHP
1469: [23:52:35] <ss23> mainly
1470: [23:52:38] <RyanPotter> lolol
1471: [23:52:42] <chocolatemoose> lol
1472: [23:52:43] <RyanPotter> churbo
1473: [23:52:57] <irogue-5> RyanPotter: http://2015.phpconference.org.nz/schedule/
1474: [23:53:44] <chocolatemoose> is it possible to do a redirect in RequestFilter::preRequest?
1475: [23:53:46] <RyanPotter> Who’re the SS people?
1476: [23:54:00] <irogue-5> RyanPotter: Hamish Friedlander, Julian Seidenberg, Christopher Pitt
1477: [23:54:41] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: +1
1478: [23:54:55] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: Will you guys record them at the SS office?
1479: [23:56:21] <DanaeNZ> nyeeee a schedule i haven't even done that
1480: [23:56:41] <spronk> bop
1481: [23:57:02] <irogue-5> RyanPotter: don't think so, but phpconf probably will
1482: [23:57:10] <zippy> WordPress <3 PHP looks good
1483: [23:57:15] <spronk> php is for losers. how's progress on the go port of SS?
1484: [23:57:30] <ss23> spronk: On the list
1485: [23:57:30] <ss23> :3
1486: [23:57:50] <RyanPotter> zippy: ?
1487: [23:57:59] <irogue-5> spronk: http://2015.phpconference.org.nz/session/sprinkle-in-some-go-for-fun-and-profit/
1488: [23:58:04] <irogue-5> some SSers happen to be going to that ;)
1489: [23:58:18] <spronk> ah
1490: [23:58:19] <spronk> phil
1491: [23:58:34] <zippy> RyanPotter: http://2015.phpconference.org.nz/speaker/gary-pendergast/
1492: [23:58:52] <RyanPotter> zippy: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
1493: [23:59:08] <irogue-5> i'm going to http://2015.phpconference.org.nz/session/code-review-for-security/
1494: [23:59:12] * Azure|dc is now known as Azure
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