#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 25 August 2015

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1: [00:02:07] <zippy> it's locked up, damn osx again! arawr
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4: [00:03:18] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5620 (3.1 - 99a8a81 : Loz Calver): The build passed.
5: [00:03:18] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/790dff7b8167...99a8a81e9a92
6: [00:03:18] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77079406
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14: [00:12:37] <terryapodaca> yeah...derp?
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26: [00:37:06] <antmas> spronk: dat F1
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32: [00:49:56] <muskie9> anyone ever paginate a GroupedList
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34: [00:53:08] <DanaeNZ> ugh this V tastes like shit
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36: [00:59:12] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: it IS shit Austin
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38: [01:00:12] <DanaeNZ> I've heard that joke so often but never saw the original
39: [01:00:21] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: "it's a bit nutty"
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52: [01:39:36] <RyanPotter> Stomach: did you use subsites for Felton?
53: [01:39:40] <Stomach> yes
54: [01:39:52] <RyanPotter> Coolio
55: [01:40:32] <RyanPotter> I want your designers.
56: [01:40:34] <RyanPotter> I neeed them
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58: [01:44:10] <irogue> there are nowhere near enough good web designers in the world
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60: [01:44:49] * irogue often has to deal with print designers attempting to design for web
61: [01:44:58] <RyanPotter> but boy are there plenty of shit ones.
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65: [01:47:01] <irogue> SO MANY SHIT ONES
66: [01:47:57] <chocolatemoose> print designers are the best for web stuff though...
67: [01:48:34] <DanaeNZ> yeah if you like 300dpi designs with four fonts per page
68: [01:48:47] <chocolatemoose> and custom kerning
69: [01:48:56] <chocolatemoose> and layer filters
70: [01:49:28] <spronk> hey man
71: [01:49:31] <spronk> theres nothing wrong wth custom kerning
72: [01:49:57] <chocolatemoose> "but the e needs to be closer to the l, but only the e"
73: [01:50:19] <spronk> <span class="el">
74: [01:50:20] <spronk> :p
75: [01:50:36] <chocolatemoose> haha, practical, but oh so messy
76: [01:50:39] <spronk> hmm
77: [01:50:42] <spronk> this
78: [01:50:52] <spronk> seems like something that could be turned into js
79: [01:51:01] <spronk> >:-D
80: [01:51:47] <bell_> * Ok back to my recurring /index.php/ problem. I am about to place a temporary home page while i try to track down the .htaccess. Question: should i see .htaccess from a FRP Client?
81: [01:51:49] <chocolatemoose> probably how they decide css standards
82: [01:52:03] <chocolatemoose> "what do we have to use js for that we probably shouldn't"
83: [01:52:05] <irogue> we had a design company give us a style guide with <h1> at 14pt (yes, pt) and <h6> at 36pt
84: [01:52:09] <zippy> bell_: yes.. if you tell it to
85: [01:52:19] <zippy> bell_: some you need to tell to 'show hidden files'
86: [01:53:08] <spronk> tbh, chocolatemoose, i doubt they even look at that
87: [01:53:10] <spronk> more like
88: [01:53:21] <spronk> who has an outlandish stupid idea for us to implement today!
89: [01:53:23] <irogue> they also wanted us to use a custom font that isn't particularly good at small sizes for the body text, at 11pt
90: [01:53:32] <spronk> eesh
91: [01:54:20] <Stomach> RyanPotter - lol you cant have them
92: [01:54:21] <Phlunk3> custom fonts are one of the leading causes of death in our industry.
93: [01:54:23] <Stomach> we've had that chat :D
94: [01:55:20] <chocolatemoose> totally digging the new Weeknd album
95: [01:55:45] <bell_> <zippy>Ok i see and canedit .htaccess
96: [01:55:50] <DanaeNZ> my internet is nearly here
97: [01:55:53] <zippy> yay
98: [01:55:54] <DanaeNZ> they went to my house
99: [01:56:02] <DanaeNZ> then called me while i was in a meeting
100: [01:56:13] <zippy> DanaeNZ: and then left a note saying "we know where your house is now, back in a week to install'
101: [01:56:24] <Colin[pi]> zippy: lol
102: [01:56:25] <DanaeNZ> nah they were like, we need consent
103: [01:56:34] <DanaeNZ> and I called back and had to leave a message
104: [01:56:36] <irogue> uh-oh
105: [01:56:37] <bell_> <zippy>Should i add RewriteBase after RewriteEngine On ?
106: [01:56:41] <DanaeNZ> being, "uh, I'm a tenant"
107: [01:56:56] <DanaeNZ> "you know, like what the paperwork told you"
108: [01:57:11] <zippy> bell_: you could write in there 'test' and see if it breaks the site (500) :)
109: [01:57:25] <irogue> DanaeNZ: that took them 4 weeks for me. despite me AT SIGNUP TIME giving them the contact details of the landlord who owns all of the neighbouring houses too.
110: [01:57:42] <zippy> bell_: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-installer/blob/3.0/.htaccess
111: [01:57:43] <DanaeNZ> irogue: yeah it's been about that long
112: [01:57:56] <DanaeNZ> the weeks without internet are blurring together
113: [01:58:05] <bell_> <zippy>You want me to write TEST where in .htaccess?
114: [01:58:11] <DanaeNZ> also my landlord WORKS at the property attached to my house
115: [01:58:13] <irogue> they asked me for details after a week, I told them they were in the service order, they were like "oh yeah so they are"
116: [01:58:20] <zippy> sure, if the server is reading the .htaccess it will break (500) the sie
117: [01:58:22] <zippy> *site
118: [01:58:30] <zippy> do it fast, like a ninja
119: [01:58:35] <irogue> 3 days later they called again and said "we're gonna need to get consent" and I said "yes, you called me about this 3 days ago, you have the details"
120: [01:58:45] <Stomach> https://github.com/assertchris/silverstripe-supported-modules/blob/gh-pages/modules.json
121: [01:58:47] <Stomach> interesting
122: [01:58:57] <DanaeNZ> irogue: ugh sounds like internet is still far off
123: [01:59:02] <irogue> another week later my ISP called and said "just been told by Chorus that they're waiting on consent"
124: [01:59:10] <irogue> so I called my landlord who confirmed noone had contacted him yet
125: [01:59:13] <zippy> Stomach: http://assertchris.github.io/silverstripe-supported-modules/
126: [01:59:17] <zippy> pretty cool
127: [01:59:19] <DanaeNZ> infuriating
128: [01:59:25] <Stomach> yeah its good
129: [01:59:34] <bell_> <zippy>Yes it does. Error 500.
130: [01:59:41] <zippy> ok cool
131: [01:59:57] <zippy> so your .htaccess is getting read by the server... I wonder if mod_rewrite was disabled
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133: [02:00:21] <zippy> if you try and go to example.com/composer.json do you see it or does it come up forbidden
134: [02:00:25] <zippy> bell_: ^
135: [02:01:04] <bell_> <zippy>I have this regarding Rewrite => SetEnv HTTP_MOD_REWRITE On RewriteEngine On
136: [02:01:21] <zippy> hit the url
137: [02:01:31] <zippy> maybe, paste what you have in your .htaccess
138: [02:01:33] <zippy> !paste
139: [02:01:33] <ss-helper> Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
140: [02:02:14] <bell_> <zippy>http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbcc98a6373
141: [02:02:19] <irogue> just like to flag up again that its possible your host updated Apache to 2.4 without enabling the .htaccess backwards compatibility (which SilverStripe's default .htaccess requires)
142: [02:02:41] <irogue> have seen it before on multiple occasions
143: [02:03:04] <zippy> even the .htaccess in the 3.2 branch?
144: [02:03:25] <bell_> <zippy>Plain Jane SS .htaccess
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146: [02:03:46] <irogue> zippy: yes
147: [02:04:00] <irogue> because there's no way to have it compatible with both versions of apache simultaneously (afaik)
148: [02:04:12] <bell_> * Everytime i try to dev/build it goes back to //Security/login?BackURL=%2Fdev%2Fbuild%3Fflush%3Dall
149: [02:04:37] <bell_> <irogue>I can see and edit .htaccess
150: [02:04:39] <chocolatemoose> it should if you aren't logged in
151: [02:05:07] <zippy> irogue: do you know the change needed for 2.4?
152: [02:06:14] <bell_> * Ok i am logged in using mysite.com/index.php/admin If i have to dev/build, it is mystic.com/index.php/dev/build or mysite.com/dev/build ?
153: [02:06:48] <DanaeNZ> bell_: delete index.php?
154: [02:07:02] <DanaeNZ> it's my favourite thing to do
155: [02:07:26] <irogue> zippy: http://pastie.org/private/mhb0bsgb59nadcz9ujuflg
156: [02:07:32] <irogue> DanaeNZ: that has been tried
157: [02:07:52] <bell_> * if i delete index.php/ from the URL, dev/build brings me back to religion....
158: [02:07:53] <irogue> DanaeNZ: it seems the rewrites aren't working at all
159: [02:07:53] <zippy> bell_: http://pastie.org/private/mhb0bsgb59nadcz9ujuflg
160: [02:07:58] <bell_> * relogin
161: [02:08:11] <zippy> bell_: that is because you are not in dev mode, and need to login first
162: [02:11:19] <bell_> <zippy>Ive logged in and did http://www.golflesdunes.com/index.php/dev/build?flush=all Copied your code. Problem still there.
163: [02:11:53] <zippy> it still redirects to login?
164: [02:11:57] <zippy> or, you still have index.php
165: [02:12:09] <zippy> the account you login with has to be an admin btw.
166: [02:12:29] <zippy> Did you update the .htaccess based on http://pastie.org/private/mhb0bsgb59nadcz9ujuflg ?
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168: [02:13:22] <bell_> <zippy>It redirects to admin. And yes i am the admin..
169: [02:13:31] <bell_> <zippy>And yes i copied the code.
170: [02:15:00] <bell_> * Should i add a RewriteBase \???? to my .htaccess to get rid of /index.php/ ????
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172: [02:15:55] <bell_> * Everytime i remove index.php from the URL, it returns a blank page....
173: [02:16:19] <zippy> bell_: wouldn't hurt
174: [02:16:26] <zippy> and it'd be /
175: [02:17:11] <bell_> <zippy>RewriteBase \ just after RewriteEngineOn and then what? index.php/dev/build?
176: [02:17:55] <RyanPotter> antmas: (. Y .)
177: [02:17:56] <zippy> RewriteBase /
178: [02:17:59] <zippy> just after
179: [02:18:05] <zippy> and then /dev/build?flush=all
180: [02:18:11] <zippy> and dance
181: [02:18:14] <zippy> \o/\o/
182: [02:18:32] <chocolatemoose> like this http://gifsb.in/no1curr/hey-guess-what.gif
183: [02:18:41] <antmas> RyanPotter: ah I forgot :(
184: [02:18:51] <RyanPotter> antmas: I feel for you, brother.
185: [02:19:15] <antmas> Feel for fallen (. Y .) brothers
186: [02:20:29] <bell_> <zippy>Ok, pasted the RewriteCode / then did /index.php/dev/build?flush=all Now what? test in another browser if /index.php/ has been removed from URL?
187: [02:20:44] <zippy> you using chrome?
188: [02:20:54] <DanaeNZ> i've had no nips since i started here
189: [02:21:05] <DanaeNZ> ( Y )
190: [02:21:08] <DanaeNZ> XD
191: [02:21:28] <chocolatemoose> just a big ass on your chest?
192: [02:21:35] <antmas> LOL
193: [02:21:35] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: You have no-one but yourself to blame.
194: [02:22:00] <bell_> <zippy>Safari, from which i dev/build?flush=all And then test in Chrome mysite.com/ to no avail but mysite,com/index.php still works (to my absolute disgust....)
195: [02:22:05] <DanaeNZ> :*(
196: [02:22:52] <bell_> * Why is that fuck.... /index.php/ insists being there????
197: [02:23:28] <DanaeNZ> chrome caches anything and everything
198: [02:23:40] <DanaeNZ> don't know if it would cache that but might be worth lookign at
199: [02:23:49] <DanaeNZ> *
200: [02:24:26] <bell_> * this thing is a nightmare...
201: [02:24:28] <chocolatemoose> it's not doing a redirect though, so I doubt chrome cares
202: [02:24:28] <antmas> fuck Chrome
203: [02:24:56] <DanaeNZ> bell_: what does your htaccess look like now? mind pastin igt?
204: [02:24:57] <DanaeNZ> 8
205: [02:25:03] <DanaeNZ> omg i typoed my asterisk fix
206: [02:25:08] <DanaeNZ> what doi i do now
207: [02:26:00] <Colin[pi]> antmas: +1
208: [02:26:00] <antmas> DanaeNZ: what have you done?
209: [02:26:04] <antmas> WHAT HAVE YOU DON
210: [02:26:09] <antmas> ALSO DONE
211: [02:26:16] <antmas> lol slow news day http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/71432713/zombie-kangaroos-spook-cyclist
212: [02:26:16] <DanaeNZ> haha
213: [02:26:42] <bell_> <DanaeNZ>Here it is http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbd23a6f1e7
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215: [02:30:42] <DanaeNZ> is there anything wrong with the default SS htaccess?
216: [02:30:43] <DanaeNZ> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-installer/blob/3.2/.htaccess
217: [02:31:41] <bell_> <DanaeNZ>I am using SS3.0.5
218: [02:32:31] <bell_> <DanaeNZ>Correction: this site has been builded using SS3.0.5 Present sites are using SS3.1.x
219: [02:32:37] <antmas> bell_: a fellow 3.0 user - I feel for you, brother.
220: [02:33:21] <bell_> * Guys, i am quite despaired. Client is yelling after me. There must be a way to get rid of the shiity /index.php/ ?????
221: [02:34:26] <DanaeNZ> does anyone know if there are browser compatibility guidelines for CWP?
222: [02:34:37] <irogue> bell_: ultimately the .htaccess rewrites not working is a host issue, which means its very difficult for us to diagnose or help you work around
223: [02:34:46] <DanaeNZ> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-installer/blob/3.0/.htaccess
224: [02:34:54] <DanaeNZ> 3.0 htaccess is still the same
225: [02:35:18] <irogue> DanaeNZ: as I mentioned earlier, that .htaccess won't work if they're on Apache 2.4 without the backwards compat support
226: [02:35:22] <zippy> DanaeNZ: IE5~
227: [02:35:31] <antmas> yeah I would think it was a fault at the host, bell_
228: [02:35:41] <DanaeNZ> derp
229: [02:35:59] <chocolatemoose> maybe the rewrite module isn't even enabled
230: [02:36:35] <antmas> or that :P
231: [02:36:36] <bell_> * Apache 2.2.29
232: [02:36:44] <antmas> or it is and no one restarted Apache :P
233: [02:37:07] <bell_> * go see http://www.golflesdunes.com/phpinfo.php
234: [02:37:21] <bell_> * mod_rewite is on
235: [02:37:41] <irogue> DanaeNZ: not that I know of, agencies seem to decide for themselves
236: [02:37:46] <irogue> bell_: can you access apache error log?
237: [02:38:23] <bell_> <irogue>And how would i?
238: [02:38:38] <chocolatemoose> cpanel if you have access
239: [02:38:39] <antmas> it's in cpanel isn't it?
240: [02:39:29] <bell_> * i am in cpanel
241: [02:39:48] <antmas> should be down in the logs section
242: [02:40:18] <bell_> * yes i have access to channel. In it as we speak.
243: [02:40:55] <antmas> any errors relating to your issue?
244: [02:41:01] <bell_> * [Mon Aug 24 22:38:52 2015] [alert] [client 96.20.118.94] /home/golflesd/public_html/.htaccess: Invalid command 'Rewrite', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
245: [02:41:21] <antmas> le bingo
246: [02:41:24] <chocolatemoose> yup
247: [02:41:28] <DanaeNZ> irogue: I can literally just clone the cwp installer and get going right? The licence appears to be standard SS licence
248: [02:41:40] <irogue> DanaeNZ: yup
249: [02:41:53] <bell_> * Which means? IS RewriteBase / should be RewriteBase \ ?
250: [02:41:54] <DanaeNZ> irogue: we're making a site for a client who will want to "move it to CWP" eventually
251: [02:42:28] <DanaeNZ> so I'm gonna make it in CWP, lol
252: [02:42:40] <chocolatemoose> bell_: sounds like you have something that just says Rewrite in there
253: [02:42:58] <irogue> bell_: I can't see a command Rewrite anywhere in the .htaccess you pasted - was that the entire .htaccess?
254: [02:44:17] <bell_> * here it is again. Old Plain Jane SS3.0.5 with RewriteBase / added http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbd65a07a4a
255: [02:45:08] <chocolatemoose> does rewrite base need ' around / like '/' ?
256: [02:45:36] <chocolatemoose> nevermind, works either way
257: [02:46:04] <bell_> * do i have to dev/build?
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259: [02:47:02] <antmas> this is my mod_rewrite section http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbd70ed4ccc
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262: [02:47:41] <antmas> I don't have the ReWriteBase / line at all
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264: [02:49:06] <antmas> bell_: ^^
265: [02:49:14] <antmas> that's on my dev server, checking live now
266: [02:49:15] <bell_> <antmas>http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbd65a07a4a
267: [02:49:31] <bell_> * dev mode reported no error
268: [02:50:25] <antmas> confirmed, that line isn't on my live .htaccess either
269: [02:51:03] <bell_> * now this [Mon Aug 24 22:43:10 2015] [error] [client 202.160.48.160] client denied by server configuration: /home/golflesd/public_html/.htaccess
270: [02:51:40] <antmas> did you change anything?
271: [02:51:49] <antmas> I just had a look at your php settings, was that it?
272: [02:51:55] <bell_> * i am all about changing anything!!!!!!
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274: [02:52:50] <bell_> * everything! Cant understand why all the solutions are working properly. .htaccess is there, RewriteBase / is there mod_rewrite is there.... As so that damn /index.php/
275: [02:53:11] <chocolatemoose> the rewriting is working fine
276: [02:53:14] <chocolatemoose> from what I can see
277: [02:53:28] <bell_> <antmas>http://www.golflesdunes.com/phpinfo.php
278: [02:53:32] <chocolatemoose> going to /admin goes to /Security/login?... properly
279: [02:54:08] <bell_> <chocolatemoose>Only if i do /index.php/admin /admin alone is leading to a blank page
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281: [02:54:12] <chocolatemoose> I get a 500 error
282: [02:54:20] <chocolatemoose> there's something else wrong
283: [02:54:43] <terryapodaca> we've been telling him this all night
284: [02:54:44] <antmas> yeah I get a 500 on the site root page
285: [02:55:02] <terryapodaca> he needs to contact his host provider
286: [02:55:12] <antmas> yeah it's something at the host
287: [02:55:15] <chocolatemoose> is your database set up properly? and configured? :p
288: [02:55:35] <terryapodaca> bell_: not to be a dick, but didn't we already come to this conclusion earlier?
289: [02:56:39] <chocolatemoose> it also says your timezone isn't set properly in php.ini
290: [02:56:50] <chocolatemoose> you did go through the install right?
291: [02:57:02] <chocolatemoose> because I can access install.php still
292: [02:57:19] <irogue> lol woops
293: [02:57:31] <bell_> * guys you are very patient and i thank you dearly. The whole index.php thing showed up this pm. We havent changed anything. You menton host: i can't reach him. But all of you say Rewrite is working. Isn't /index.php/ related to Rewrite? And most providers doesn't know a single line from SS....
294: [02:57:56] <bell_> * yes install.php i did upload earlier.. I intended to reinstall.
295: [02:58:11] <terryapodaca> index.php is only a "fallback" if .htaccess fails
296: [02:58:15] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
297: [02:58:15] <bell_> * its out now.
298: [02:58:21] <terryapodaca> most people even delete index.php
299: [02:58:33] <antmas> he said he deleted index.php
300: [02:58:52] <chocolatemoose> but did he go through the install and set up the database?
301: [02:59:00] <bell_> * deleted index.php to no change
302: [02:59:09] <chocolatemoose> it was showing the timezone in php.ini failed the check
303: [02:59:39] <bell_> * always had a problem with timezone so i commented in install.html5
304: [02:59:42] <antmas> timezone looks fine to me
305: [02:59:50] <bell_> * 3 years ago... :-)
306: [03:00:32] <antmas> the login page is 500ing
307: [03:00:39] <chocolatemoose> yup
308: [03:00:51] <antmas> sorry, stating the obvious
309: [03:00:53] <terryapodaca> the whole site is 500ing
310: [03:01:03] <bell_> * see that too. But www.golflesdunes.com/index.php is fine!
311: [03:01:04] <chocolatemoose> it did something different for me now
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313: [03:01:34] <terryapodaca> your server doesn't like or isn't accepting your .htaccess file
314: [03:01:47] <terryapodaca> who is your host?
315: [03:01:54] <antmas> I wonder if the permissions on that .htaccess have changed
316: [03:02:20] <antmas> or something has changed at your host and you haven't been notified
317: [03:02:25] <terryapodaca> that's why index.php works, because it's the "fallback" when .htaccess fails
318: [03:02:26] <antmas> that does happen
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320: [03:02:39] * irogue quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
321: [03:02:52] <antmas> irogue-5: HEY MAH, GET OFF THE DANG ROOF
322: [03:02:58] <bell_> * permissions are set to 644 on .htaccess
323: [03:03:03] <terryapodaca> we've already explained this to him like 4 hrs ago
324: [03:03:11] <chocolatemoose> I got this http://postimg.org/image/4wrn88iid/
325: [03:03:39] <irogue-5> the wifi here is being particularly nasty today - had to connect to IRC from my ethernetted computer
326: [03:03:51] <bell_> <chocolatemoose>This shows up from time to time. Its an old page.
327: [03:04:24] <irogue-5> o_O
328: [03:04:36] <chocolatemoose> dns issues?
329: [03:04:38] <chocolatemoose> ha
330: [03:04:50] <bell_> <terryapodaca>I appreciate your help, but i repeat: i dont have access to my host provider and i need a solution in between.
331: [03:05:09] <terryapodaca> bell_: your not going to get a solution in between
332: [03:05:12] <irogue-5> bell_: because we aren't your host provider, we may not be able to give a solution
333: [03:06:08] <terryapodaca> http://www.golflesdunes.com/dev/build?flush=all <--- What happens when you try to run this?
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336: [03:06:28] <irogue-5> bell_: considered just shoving it on a different host temporarily?
337: [03:07:05] <bell_> <terryapodaca>this Redirecting to /Security/login?BackURL=%2Fdev%2Fbuild%3Fflush%3Dall... (output started on /home/golflesd/public_html/framework/dev/DebugView.php, line 101)
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339: [03:07:36] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1408 (3 - 1ada2da : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
340: [03:07:36] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/ab5911361204...1ada2dab1dd8
341: [03:07:36] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/77093477
342: [03:07:36] * travis-ci has left #silverstripe
343: [03:07:46] <irogue-5> bell_: could you paste say the last 100 or so lines of apache error log?
344: [03:07:55] <bell_> <terryapodaca>But not if in inserted that dreamed /index.php/
345: [03:08:56] <bell_> * here it is, But there is only 10s line. http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dbdc3cd62fc
346: [03:09:32] <irogue-5> a-ha@
347: [03:09:33] <irogue-5> EACCELERATOR(174349): PHP crashed on opline 31 of include_by_locale() at /home/golflesd/public_html/framework/i18n/i18n.php:1967
348: [03:09:36] <irogue-5> there's what we needed to see
349: [03:09:45] <terryapodaca> bell_: please understand this, index.php is just there in case .htaccess doesn't work, and it seams like that is your problem, your .htaccess file isn't being accepted by the server, this could be because something changed on the server, an upgrade, a bad php module
350: [03:09:51] <irogue-5> tl;dr: host is completely fucked
351: [03:10:04] <terryapodaca> there you go
352: [03:10:26] <terryapodaca> irogue-5 to the rescue
353: [03:10:42] <terryapodaca> which is what we've been telling you from the beginning bell_
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355: [03:10:46] <irogue-5> I don't think SS is compatible with eaccelerator (which noone actually uses these days)
356: [03:10:50] <bell_> * Ok so what should i wake up my provider with? :-)
357: [03:10:57] <chocolatemoose> is irogue-5 like Big Hero 6?
358: [03:11:25] <irogue-5> bell_: well you could have a hunt and see if there's an option for disabling eaccelerator in your cpanel
359: [03:11:29] <antmas> bell_: yup, nothing more we can do outside of sending you a virtual stick to smack your host with
360: [03:11:54] <bell_> <irogue-r>From cpanel?
361: [03:11:58] <antmas> dafuq is eaccelerator?
362: [03:12:03] <chocolatemoose> try this in your htaccess
363: [03:12:15] <chocolatemoose> php_flag eaccelerator.enable 0
364: [03:12:16] <irogue-5> antmas: an ancient opcode cache (like APC) discontinued like 3 years ago
365: [03:12:19] <chocolatemoose> php_flag eaccelerator.optimizer 0
366: [03:12:30] <antmas> bell_: ^^^^
367: [03:12:41] <irogue-5> only a hosting company that hasn't upgraded anything for 3 years would still have it :P
368: [03:12:57] <antmas> sounds like hostgator :P
369: [03:13:16] <bell_> * and where in .htaccess?
370: [03:13:17] <terryapodaca> irogue-5: but the funny thing is, he says his site has worked for the last three years, until today
371: [03:13:22] <irogue-5> its also not compatible with php 5.4 afaik
372: [03:13:33] <irogue-5> which means the host may have upgraded to php 5.4 but not removed eaccelerator
373: [03:13:35] <chocolatemoose> bell_: shouldn't matter, but you could put it at the top
374: [03:14:09] <bell_> * returns a 500
375: [03:14:11] <antmas> it's a godaddy site
376: [03:14:23] <antmas> host*
377: [03:14:33] <bell_> * right after #Silverstripe Start ?
378: [03:14:38] <antmas> wait
379: [03:14:40] <antmas> no, maybe not
380: [03:14:46] * antmas clicked the wrong link
381: [03:14:51] * zippy quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
382: [03:15:21] <irogue-5> www.clic.net
383: [03:16:17] <chocolatemoose> bell_: if it's still throwing a 500 error then it probably doesn't allow configuration via php flags
384: [03:16:17] <bell_> * i know this is clic.net Talking to them frequently, but they are less than supportive....
385: [03:16:35] <bell_> * they are very strict on PHP settings.
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387: [03:16:47] <terryapodaca> bell_: https://www.socalweb.com/hosting/knowledgebase/1/How-to-disableorenable-eAccelerator.html
388: [03:16:47] * muskie9 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
389: [03:17:08] <irogue-5> terryapodaca: sounds like the host don't allow use of php_flag
390: [03:17:15] <antmas> yah
391: [03:17:18] <antmas> time to move hosts
392: [03:17:25] <irogue-5> so unfortunately bell_, as we first said: your host fucked up and they have to fix it :P
393: [03:17:26] <terryapodaca> bad host, BAD HOST
394: [03:17:30] * muskie9_ is now known as muskie9
395: [03:17:36] <irogue-5> at least now you know specifically what to tell them to fix!
396: [03:17:56] <bell_> * i tried to copy the two lines php_flag eaccelerator.enable 0 php_flag eaccelerator.optimizer 0 leading to a 500 error
397: [03:18:09] <antmas> yeah because they don't support php_flags
398: [03:18:15] <bell_> <irogue-5>i.e. remove eeaccelrator?
399: [03:18:20] <irogue-5> bell_: yup
400: [03:18:23] <antmas> bell_: tell your client the host has screwed up and you know exactly why
401: [03:18:30] <antmas> and you're done :D
402: [03:18:32] <irogue-5> [Mon Aug 24 23:03:28 2015] [error] [client 119.224.63.180] ] [notice] EACCELERATOR(174349): PHP crashed on opline 31 of include_by_locale() at /home/golflesd/public_html/framework/i18n/i18n.php:1967
403: [03:18:40] <irogue-5> bell_: give the host that line ^
404: [03:18:54] <bell_> * and that could prevent Rewrite from working properly?
405: [03:19:04] <antmas> correct
406: [03:19:08] <antmas> it's THE problem
407: [03:19:16] <irogue-5> well its preventing everything from working properly
408: [03:19:43] <bell_> * Ok guys. Thanks and warm regards from Montreal, Canada. Its not NZ, but its quite enjoyable!
409: [03:19:48] <irogue-5> broken opcode caches will cause all kinds of weird unexpected errors
410: [03:20:10] <antmas> bell_: time to go grab a beer me thinks
411: [03:20:12] <antmas> :D
412: [03:20:14] <irogue-5> also, while you're here bell_: please upgrade to the latest 3.0.x
413: [03:20:44] * antmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
414: [03:20:53] <irogue-5> I wouldn't go to 3.1 cos it will break some stuff, but at least having the latest security patches for 3.0 will keep you out of trouble
415: [03:21:08] <irogue-5> there were some nasty security flaws that you'll still be susceptible to
416: [03:22:53] <bell_> * time for a whole update from scratch! Thanks to all.
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419: [03:23:13] * irogue-5 wipes sweat from brow
420: [03:23:41] <terryapodaca> bell_: your fix for now, until you can contact your host, is just tell the client to use index.php for now
421: [03:23:53] <terryapodaca> it's ugly
422: [03:23:57] <terryapodaca> and not ideal
423: [03:24:00] <irogue-5> jfc, eAccelerator! I haven't seen that in use for like 5+ years
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425: [03:24:28] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5622 (3 - 445f1d4 : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
426: [03:24:28] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/5c5dd7efce1b...445f1d4ccbcc
427: [03:24:29] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77093489
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429: [03:24:34] <irogue-5> do we stil have a "never ever use this fucking host for silverstripe" page in docs somewhere? if so I'll totally add clic.net
430: [03:24:59] <terryapodaca> I haven't seen it
431: [03:25:25] <terryapodaca> is there an easy way to duplicate a DO in a gridview?
432: [03:25:44] <terryapodaca> kind of like how you can right click and duplicate pages on the sitetree
433: [03:28:26] <irogue-5> nothing I know of out of the box
434: [03:28:28] <irogue-5> might be a module tho?
435: [03:29:35] <irogue-5> we should have an "even more unofficial than docs" #silverstripe wiki where can document things like incompetent webhosts
436: [03:30:32] <irogue-5> terryapodaca: https://github.com/unisolutions/silverstripe-copybutton maybe?
437: [03:31:27] <muskie9> terryapodaca I've used that before ^ seemed to work well
438: [03:32:46] <terryapodaca> Cool! I'll have a look
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441: [03:36:13] <ss-helper> Re: User's ability to change their own password. - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8qV0L00lMdM/E1Os-FnkKgAJ
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445: [03:51:13] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: User's ability to change their own password. - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8qV0L00lMdM/hGIOCjflKgAJ
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448: [03:51:35] <travis-ci> chillu/silverstripe-framework#183 (pulls/urlsegment-forward-slashes - 94cb2f7 : Ingo Schommer): The build has errored.
449: [03:51:35] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/b617ef1abdd8^...94cb2f79a644
450: [03:51:35] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/77097501
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453: [03:55:45] * DanaeNZ dies
454: [03:55:59] * Motoservo has joined #silverstripe
455: [03:56:34] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: y u die?
456: [03:56:56] <DanaeNZ> so tireddd
457: [03:57:04] <DanaeNZ> had an intense meeting in the morning
458: [03:57:13] <DanaeNZ> it drained 900% of my enegries
459: [03:57:17] <DanaeNZ> *
460: [03:57:25] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
461: [03:58:37] <chocolatemoose> rest of the week off then I suppose, it only makes sense
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463: [03:58:55] <travis-ci> chillu/silverstripe-framework#184 (pulls/urlsegment-forward-slashes - 9b3a4a8 : Ingo Schommer): The build has errored.
464: [03:58:55] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/94cb2f79a644...9b3a4a839758
465: [03:58:55] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/77098002
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467: [03:59:05] <DanaeNZ> chocolatemoose: sounds good tro me
468: [04:00:53] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: I walked to the client and back today which was far too much exercise for one day :P
469: [04:08:21] <DanaeNZ> i want nippy's :D
470: [04:08:32] <DanaeNZ> i have had two coffees and av
471: [04:08:38] <DanaeNZ> iced coffe nippy's so yunmmy
472: [04:08:48] <terryapodaca> ( . )( . )
473: [04:08:50] <ss23> I love a cold nippy in the morning, so tasty
474: [04:08:59] <ss23> anyone want to let me suck on one of their nippys?
475: [04:08:59] <terryapodaca> or do you like'm bigger?
476: [04:09:14] <terryapodaca> ( @ )( @ )
477: [04:09:18] <ss23> lol
478: [04:09:25] <ss23> I would've gone with (o).(o)
479: [04:09:32] <ss23> I would've gone with (oYo)
480: [04:09:35] <DanaeNZ> that looks like a face
481: [04:09:44] <ss23> DanaeNZ: You have to use your ~imagination~
482: [04:09:45] <chocolatemoose> pepperoni nipples
483: [04:09:52] <DanaeNZ> peppinippies
484: [04:09:56] <DanaeNZ> pepenippies
485: [04:10:02] <DanaeNZ> ppipipjpineineines
486: [04:10:20] <DanaeNZ> ( (.) Y (.) )
487: [04:10:23] <DanaeNZ> there
488: [04:10:51] <terryapodaca> yo, those some odd pepinippies
489: [04:11:00] <DanaeNZ> yeah :\
490: [04:11:08] <ss23> :O <===3
491: [04:11:11] <ss23> :O==3
492: [04:11:13] <ss23> :3
493: [04:11:30] <spronk> silverstripe
494: [04:11:33] <spronk> bringing back nippys
495: [04:11:39] <DanaeNZ> since ages ago
496: [04:11:49] <spronk> HAI FAIIVE
497: [04:11:54] * DanaeNZ misses
498: [04:12:01] <DanaeNZ> :<
499: [04:12:22] <ss23> Can you even get nippys anymore?
500: [04:12:27] <spronk> i'm not surprised, with nipples like those ppipipjpineineines ones above, momentum has gotta give
501: [04:12:33] <spronk> badum.
502: [04:12:35] <DanaeNZ> XD
503: [04:12:35] <ss23> XD
504: [04:12:37] <spronk> ss-helper of course youn can
505: [04:12:40] <spronk> FUCK
506: [04:12:42] <spronk> ss23
507: [04:12:59] <ss23> I went to a service station the other day and didn't see it (not that I was looking for it)
508: [04:13:09] <DanaeNZ> it is by the milk
509: [04:13:09] <ss23> I'll keep an eye out for nips lately though
510: [04:13:13] <ss23> Never know when you wanna suck on some nips
511: [04:13:19] <spronk> looool
512: [04:13:21] <DanaeNZ> ask the guy at the counter
513: [04:13:27] <DanaeNZ> "can i see your nips"
514: [04:13:29] <spronk> :D
515: [04:13:42] <spronk> they sell nippy's at new world down here
516: [04:13:50] <DanaeNZ> the z station has them
517: [04:14:12] <DanaeNZ> nips nips nips nips
518: [04:14:21] <spronk> oh wow
519: [04:14:24] <spronk> they make fruit juice too
520: [04:14:34] <DanaeNZ> the fuck
521: [04:14:38] <DanaeNZ> frooty nips
522: [04:14:39] <spronk> http://www.nippys.com.au/about-us/nippy-s-fruit-juices
523: [04:15:00] <DanaeNZ> naturally as good as it gets
524: [04:15:07] <DanaeNZ> best slogan 10/10
525: [04:15:24] <spronk> lol
526: [04:15:36] <spronk> 10/10 would... suck... again?
527: [04:15:59] <ss23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhqZcGcwYV8
528: [04:16:49] <spronk> oh man
529: [04:16:56] <spronk> our hockey club shirts this year are nasty on the nips
530: [04:17:01] <DanaeNZ> hahahah i saw liike 10 s of dat htne maybe nsfw
531: [04:17:01] <ss23> lol
532: [04:17:08] <spronk> half our team was bleeding after one of the games this year
533: [04:17:14] <ss23> DanaeNZ: Ah, it's like parody, but a little NSFW depending on where you work
534: [04:17:33] <DanaeNZ> RyanPotter: how nsfw can you get here
535: [04:17:41] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: At toast?
536: [04:17:50] <DanaeNZ> yeah
537: [04:18:01] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: We’ve pretty much had porn up in the meeting room before.
538: [04:18:06] <spronk> :|
539: [04:18:08] <DanaeNZ> looooooool
540: [04:18:20] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: Does that answer your question?
541: [04:18:35] <DanaeNZ> you know what yeah it does
542: [04:18:40] * DanaeNZ nods sagely
543: [04:20:05] <spronk> i need some coffee.
544: [04:20:51] * spronk will probably get reaaal angry without his caffeine
545: [04:20:57] <DanaeNZ> get me some while you're up
546: [04:21:15] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: User's ability to change their own password. - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8qV0L00lMdM/UNW-ml_nKgAJ
547: [04:21:47] <DanaeNZ> array to xml to output string
548: [04:21:49] <DanaeNZ> ugh
549: [04:21:56] <DanaeNZ> do not want
550: [04:22:01] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: DanaeNZ: We’ve pretty much had porn up in the meeting room before. <-- your old boilerplate site?
551: [04:22:13] <DanaeNZ> haha
552: [04:22:21] <DanaeNZ> instead of those kitten placeholder pic websites
553: [04:22:22] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: Friday drinks at some stage I think.
554: [04:22:25] <DanaeNZ> it was just titties
555: [04:22:29] <spronk> nono
556: [04:22:29] <Colin[pi]> lol
557: [04:22:32] <spronk> other kind of kittens
558: [04:22:42] <DanaeNZ> ha :D
559: [04:22:48] <Colin[pi]> spronk: ;)
560: [04:22:53] <spronk> ... placepussy!
561: [04:23:02] <mahfuz> Hey guys can anyone tell me how I can use less css in SilverStripe. I see that there is 1 less and corresponding css file in the One Ring Rental Tutorial site but how to auto compile that when thee is any change in the less file?
562: [04:23:20] <spronk> if i owned placekitten
563: [04:23:24] <spronk> i totally would put a random troll pic
564: [04:23:27] <spronk> every X requests
565: [04:23:30] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: look up compass
566: [04:23:37] <Colin[pi]> spronk: chickenbutt
567: [04:23:49] <spronk> and request number 99,999: CHICKENBUTTT!
568: [04:23:54] <Colin[pi]> lool
569: [04:23:58] <spronk> oh what's that, you showed that to your client?
570: [04:24:00] <DanaeNZ> but like thousands of chickenbutt
571: [04:24:05] <spronk> SERVES YOU RIGHT FOR USING PLACEKITTENM
572: [04:24:08] <DanaeNZ> randomly flying over the screen
573: [04:24:18] <DanaeNZ> placekitten doesn't have nearly enough kittens
574: [04:24:22] <DanaeNZ> :<
575: [04:25:02] <RyanPotter> Need this as a placeholder: http://www.pointerpointer.com/
576: [04:25:46] <DanaeNZ> RyanPotter: that's the best site ever made :D
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579: [04:27:50] <mahfuz> Thanks DanaeNZ. But that modul is for sass. I have found one for less - https://github.com/axllent/silverstripe-less . I couldn't see any plugin like that used in UncleCheese's Tutorial project, so I thought there might be some other way.
580: [04:28:19] <spronk> sass is for sexy less is for losers
581: [04:28:56] <DanaeNZ> spronk: agree
582: [04:29:08] <RyanPotter> Less is for raccons that want to get hit by trucks.
583: [04:29:18] <DanaeNZ> interesting metaphor
584: [04:29:30] <DanaeNZ> i mean comparison*?
585: [04:29:47] <RyanPotter> My favorite insult is: “You look like a racoon that had a stroke, and died three times.”
586: [04:29:50] <mahfuz> UncleCheese is using LESS in that tutorial
587: [04:30:01] <DanaeNZ> RyanPotter: who on earth came up witrh those XD
588: [04:30:10] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: Drugs, Danae. Drugs.
589: [04:30:16] <DanaeNZ> thanks drugs
590: [04:30:25] <spronk> crunt face.
591: [04:30:31] <DanaeNZ> oh that's excellent
592: [04:30:43] <spronk> ^^ my favourite insult
593: [04:31:12] * spronk is also quite partial to weebl and bob's insults from many years ago
594: [04:31:23] <spronk> spanner magnet
595: [04:31:25] <spronk> plastic vicar
596: [04:31:26] <spronk> bum eyes
597: [04:31:39] <spronk> velcro face
598: [04:31:41] <spronk> kekek
599: [04:31:50] <DanaeNZ> amaze
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601: [04:32:18] <DanaeNZ> i have an english friend who is a fantastic cusser
602: [04:32:18] <chocolat_> is it possible to add a literal field to a gridfield?
603: [04:32:31] <DanaeNZ> chocolat_: what are you tryna do?
604: [04:34:32] * chocolatemoose quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
605: [04:34:58] <chocolat_> through an image thumbnail in the grid, which is using gridfieldextensions and inline edit functionality
606: [04:35:03] <chocolat_> *throw an image
607: [04:36:06] <chocolat_> trying to use an Image.StripThumbnail just results in {cached_image}
608: [04:36:09] <chocolat_> which doesn't help
609: [04:37:13] <DanaeNZ> so you just would like an image?
610: [04:37:17] <chocolat_> yup
611: [04:37:23] <DanaeNZ> oh ok ez mode
612: [04:37:42] <DanaeNZ> I'll see if I can find a code snippet
613: [04:37:42] <chocolat_> haha, that's what I thought
614: [04:37:53] <DanaeNZ> you can also put Image.CMSThumbnail for the meantime
615: [04:38:08] <DanaeNZ> but the basic idea is Image.MethodName
616: [04:38:20] <DanaeNZ> where MethodName returns the Image with some sort of transformation
617: [04:38:35] <DanaeNZ> like, $this->Image()->getCroppedImage(100,100)
618: [04:38:48] <chocolat_> CHSThumbnail returns Image_Cached
619: [04:39:08] <chocolat_> I think it's because it's GridFieldDataColumns
620: [04:39:48] <DanaeNZ> hmm
621: [04:39:54] <DanaeNZ> hrmmm
622: [04:39:56] <DanaeNZ> i dunno :D
623: [04:40:05] <chocolat_> np, thanks for trying
624: [04:40:09] <DanaeNZ> sorry XD
625: [04:40:23] <chocolat_> I already had to mess around just to get the edit button to work
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632: [04:52:53] <DanaeNZ> i don't wanna do recursion at ten to five D:
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635: [04:53:29] <chocolat_> wow, my internet is awful today
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637: [04:57:23] <irogue-5> fellow IRCers: if you had to give us as a #silverstripe IRC community a name without using the word SilverStripe, what would it be?
638: [04:57:31] * chocolatemoose has joined #silverstripe
639: [04:57:58] <irogue-5> (that may be a dangerous thing to ask)
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641: [05:00:22] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: nip town
642: [05:00:44] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: ss23's otaku fantasy land
643: [05:00:45] <spronk> irogue-5: nsfw
644: [05:00:58] <spronk> also, wtf?
645: [05:01:22] <DanaeNZ> spronk: that's also a good name
646: [05:01:27] <spronk> :D
647: [05:01:35] <spronk> remember wtfiml33t.com ?
648: [05:01:46] <DanaeNZ> nah
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650: [05:01:55] <ss23> irogue-5: I probably wouldn't
651: [05:01:56] <spronk> also dont click on that, it's probably spam
652: [05:02:46] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: not even once
653: [05:02:53] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: chickenbutt
654: [05:02:58] <ss23> lol
655: [05:03:13] <irogue-5> oh god chickenbutt is such an accurate description of this channel
656: [05:03:17] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: suck on my nippy's
657: [05:03:33] <spronk> hahaaa
658: [05:03:42] <ss23> I came here to click chickenbutts and suck on nippys
659: [05:03:45] <ss23> and I'm all out of nippys.
660: [05:03:49] <DanaeNZ> XD
661: [05:03:51] <DanaeNZ> XDXDXDXD
662: [05:03:54] * spronk would offer
663: [05:03:55] <spronk> but..
664: [05:03:56] <spronk> ss23 :S
665: [05:03:59] <DanaeNZ> #nohomo
666: [05:04:11] <ss23> It's not gay if you don't push back, bro
667: [05:04:15] <irogue-5> #fullhomo
668: [05:04:19] <spronk> ha haaa
669: [05:04:23] <DanaeNZ> Bahahah
670: [05:04:24] <spronk> omgg
671: [05:04:29] <spronk> people speak so slowly unless videos are at 2x
672: [05:04:43] <DanaeNZ> wat
673: [05:04:49] * spronk is watching cloudacademy videos
674: [05:05:03] <spronk> at 1x its SOO SLOOWWWW AND DRIVELLY
675: [05:05:11] <DanaeNZ> haha learn slower
676: [05:05:12] <ss23> yeah
677: [05:05:17] <ss23> coursera lets you do speed up videos
678: [05:05:19] <ss23> such a good idea
679: [05:05:21] <spronk> mm
680: [05:05:26] <spronk> main reason why vimeo sucks right now, tbh
681: [05:05:34] <spronk> no speed control
682: [05:05:35] <spronk> so fail
683: [05:05:46] <ss23> my youtube speed control breaks now
684: [05:05:46] <ss23> :(
685: [05:05:49] <spronk> wat!?
686: [05:06:04] <ss23> It like... lags weirdly
687: [05:06:04] <DanaeNZ> my youtube is just broken
688: [05:06:09] <ss23> I think it happened when I changed to HTML5 video
689: [05:06:11] <ss23> or something
690: [05:06:13] <spronk> hmmmm
691: [05:06:15] <DanaeNZ> i think there's a plugin hiding somewhere
692: [05:06:18] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Re: User's ability to change their own password. - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8qV0L00lMdM/6DIQ_FnpKgAJ
693: [05:06:19] <spronk> empty your porn cache
694: [05:06:24] <DanaeNZ> lal
695: [05:06:32] * spronk pretty much runs a blank browser for normal browsing
696: [05:06:33] <spronk> well
697: [05:06:35] <spronk> ublock
698: [05:06:35] <spronk> and thats it
699: [05:08:32] * permanentinc quit (Remote host closed the connection)
700: [05:11:38] <DanaeNZ> rain D:
701: [05:11:48] <chocolatemoose> ghostery only for me
702: [05:14:29] <ss23> I use ublock too
703: [05:15:00] <DanaeNZ> FUCK XML
704: [05:15:03] <DanaeNZ> AHG
705: [05:15:49] <spronk> i never used to really care...
706: [05:15:50] <spronk> but then
707: [05:15:56] <spronk> google ads got creeepy as fuck
708: [05:16:00] <spronk> any time i'd search for something
709: [05:16:02] <spronk> for the next week
710: [05:16:03] <spronk> ads about that
711: [05:16:13] <spronk> so.. fuck that
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713: [05:16:29] <DanaeNZ> google is pretty creepy
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715: [05:20:49] <spronk> WHAT IS THIS IROGUE
716: [05:21:08] <DanaeNZ> agreed
717: [05:21:14] <DanaeNZ> what have you done
718: [05:23:01] <spronk> now i understand the question above
719: [05:23:21] <spronk> lol @ the org's pic
720: [05:24:52] <terryapodaca> What's the simplest way to extend ModelAdmin?
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722: [05:26:45] <DanaeNZ> terryapodaca: eh? you mean class MyAdmin extends ModelAdmin ?
723: [05:27:04] <terryapodaca> I think so, is it really that simple?
724: [05:27:15] <terryapodaca> and then turn it on in YML?
725: [05:27:35] <DanaeNZ> don't need to turn it on in yml
726: [05:27:53] <muskie9> terryapodaca generally you create a model admin for something you're managing in model admin... and what DanaeNZ said
727: [05:28:50] <muskie9> terryapodaca https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.1/developer_guides/customising_the_admin_interface/modeladmin/
728: [05:29:23] <irogue-5> spronk, DanaeNZ: https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Hosting
729: [05:29:55] <terryapodaca> muskie9: I am trying to get the copybutton module you mentioned earlier working on ALL grids, but I'm using this module: https://github.com/titledk/silverstripe-calendar and it's not showing up in the grids for this module
730: [05:30:04] <irogue-5> a wiki for us IRC dwellers to dump random notes that we can link newbies to etc
731: [05:30:16] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: oh i c
732: [05:30:32] <spronk> this better come with a bot to use
733: [05:30:34] <spronk> !hosting
734: [05:30:35] <spronk> :p
735: [05:30:42] <irogue-5> zippy will have to do that part :P
736: [05:30:53] <spronk> alternatively we can just make ss23 our defacto bot
737: [05:31:02] <DanaeNZ> :D
738: [05:31:07] <DanaeNZ> ss23 !chickenbutt
739: [05:31:11] <DanaeNZ> then he explains chickenbutt
740: [05:31:19] <spronk> ss23 !ss23
741: [05:31:20] <spronk> ...
742: [05:31:21] <spronk> this bot is useless
743: [05:31:36] <irogue-5> lol
744: [05:31:43] <muskie9> terryapodaca I did this in the past... a function to override the form and add the component: https://gist.github.com/muskie9/924779d18a3996be2409
745: [05:31:54] <ss23> CHICKENBUTT CHICKENBUTT
746: [05:31:59] * ss23 jumps up and down
747: [05:32:08] <DanaeNZ> XD
748: [05:33:57] <DanaeNZ> omg just saw the namespace profile pic
749: [05:34:01] <DanaeNZ> :D :D :D :D :D
750: [05:35:08] <irogue-5> thought you might appreciate that ;)
751: [05:35:23] <DanaeNZ> i think we should dedicate a section to nippy's
752: [05:35:30] <DanaeNZ> or just the jokes in general
753: [05:35:35] <DanaeNZ> but then again
754: [05:35:37] <irogue-5> just added my first note to that page, which is clic.net
755: [05:35:42] <DanaeNZ> half the fun is confusing people
756: [05:36:05] <terryapodaca> muskie9: ok, so here: https://github.com/titledk/silverstripe-calendar/blob/1.0/code/admin/CalendarAdmin.php he uses custom forms and comments out getEditForm()
757: [05:36:31] <terryapodaca> can I add the component to his custom forms on just below the commented out code?
758: [05:37:38] <spronk> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki :>
759: [05:37:51] <DanaeNZ> XD
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761: [05:37:59] <samlander> mornin
762: [05:38:04] <DanaeNZ> o/
763: [05:38:13] <spronk> ello
764: [05:38:16] <muskie9> I'm not sure if there would need to be a $this->extend('updateSomeForm', $form); in a particular form function
765: [05:38:31] <muskie9> that's usually how you would be able to update a given form, like in line 70 that's commented out
766: [05:38:35] <samlander> quick question: in my index() method im trying to get a value from one of the page's parent page's properties, if that makes sense
767: [05:38:51] <samlander> psuedo like something like $thispageval = parent::parentval
768: [05:39:03] <irogue-5> spronk: bahaha
769: [05:39:16] <samlander> although im pretty sure my rustyness in php is screwing me over on this one
770: [05:39:27] <muskie9> samlander $this->Parent()->parentVal?
771: [05:39:28] <chocolatemoose> $this->Parent
772: [05:39:32] <samlander> domg
773: [05:39:34] <samlander> ding
774: [05:39:35] <samlander> tthanks
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776: [05:43:08] <irogue-5> spronk: is rimuhosting still at HD in auckland?
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779: [05:44:24] <spronk> unsure
780: [05:44:55] <irogue-5> thats the main thing that's stopped me using them
781: [05:45:11] <irogue-5> HD's "data centre" isn't far off just being in someone's garage
782: [05:45:16] <Phalaon> I have Blog module installed, can i Extend Blog_controller to add new DO, without modyfing real Blog module?
783: [05:46:04] <spronk> hmm
784: [05:46:33] <irogue-5> Phalaon: you can extend
785: [05:46:43] <spronk> i think they are in HD dc
786: [05:46:59] <irogue-5> Phalaon: at least you can in blog 1, not sure about in blog 2
787: [05:47:28] <spronk> https://rimuhosting.com/datacenters.jsp#a9
788: [05:48:00] <Phalaon> so i if i have for example Test_Controller extends Blog_Controller? Should i decalre somewhere in config files that i extend?
789: [05:48:35] <muskie9> sleep time
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791: [05:49:03] <irogue-5> Phalaon: you'll need to extend the model as well as the controller. shouldn't need to do any config around it.
792: [05:49:23] <irogue-5> of course you'll need to pick your new pagetype when you create a page, rather than the old BlogX one
793: [05:49:58] <Phalaon> Hm ok, got the point
794: [05:52:23] <irogue-5> pub time
795: [05:52:44] <Phalaon> Irogue: so when i'll have a new page type, it will have everything that Blog had + my extended DO?
796: [05:52:54] <irogue-5> yup
797: [05:53:03] <Phalaon> awesome
798: [05:53:50] <irogue-5> we use it on a site where there are two blogs, one with a completely different theme to the rest of the site & using disqus instead of silverstripe-comments
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802: [05:59:23] <terryapodaca> foooooooook it
803: [06:00:05] <spronk> ?
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829: [08:18:24] <Guest41> hello
830: [08:19:14] * Guest41 is now known as znorelo
831: [08:19:22] <Eliseth> Hey znorelo
832: [08:19:42] <znorelo> hey Eliseth
833: [08:20:09] <znorelo> I discover silverstripe from 2 week and i love it!
834: [08:20:16] <znorelo> I discover silverstripe from 2 week ago and i love it!
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836: [08:21:44] <gtjay> Does anyone know how I can add Sortable Gridfield on a child gridfield of the parent model?
837: [08:22:16] <gtjay> For example I have - Teachers - Students, I can adds ortable on Teachers and Students. But when you go through the gridfield Teacher - Students isn't sortable.
838: [08:22:23] <gtjay> Students is only sortable form the tab on the parent
839: [08:23:04] <kinglozzer> gtjay: So when you're editing a teacher, students isn't sortable?
840: [08:23:39] <kinglozzer> Sounds like you've got two conflicting sort orders too... one "global" sort order, and one where you sort per-teacher
841: [08:25:03] <gtjay> It seems that Teachers Is Sortable and Students is sortable. from the Model Admin page.
842: [08:25:18] <gtjay> But if you go into a Teacher Record and click the Students Tab. The students then isn't sortable on this page.
843: [08:26:22] <gtjay> I think its working as expected. Teachers is sortable and Students are sortable. But soon as I go into the has_one of the teachers to view students. Students is no longer sortable.
844: [08:30:03] <Eliseth> Good to hear znorelo!
845: [08:30:07] <nontgor> how do I log in as a user when running sake, can't seem to figure out how to do it - need to be a user with permission to create translations for task I am attempting, and current member id is 0 (ie nobody logged in)
846: [08:30:34] <ss23> sake doesn't really work like that
847: [08:31:05] <nontgor> ss23: :(
848: [08:31:20] <nontgor> any kind of loginAs option?
849: [08:31:57] <ss23> Well you have a lot of options
850: [08:32:04] <ss23> If you just need it for a single task, right
851: [08:32:30] <ss23> You could do "if UserLoggedInIsAdmin || IsCLI: Member::log_in_as($_GET['fakememberid']; }
852: [08:32:33] <ss23> or something
853: [08:32:39] <ss23> But really depends on what you need to achieve
854: [08:32:43] <ss23> I've never needed anything like that personally
855: [08:32:53] <ss23> CLI is basically "admin", so I never need permissions as a *specific* non-admin user
856: [08:33:35] <nontgor> ss23: I have the dev/CLI check already, but no user is logged in (there is only the admin user)
857: [08:33:38] <kinglozzer> gtjay: My guess is that you've not modified the fields for Teacher (i.e. Teacher::getCMSFields()) to add the sort component
858: [08:35:05] <nontgor> ss23: This is failing, $post = $randomPost->createTranslation($locale); 'ERROR [User Error]: Uncaught Exception: Creating a new translation in locale "de_DE" is not allowed for this user'
859: [08:36:11] <ss23> Not an error I've seen, nontgor. Not sure how to fix... might take work from the translation module
860: [08:36:21] <ss23> nontgor: Might be able to change the module to say "if admin: bypass that check"
861: [08:37:52] <nontgor> failing on this, if(!Permission::checkMember($member, 'TRANSLATE_' . $locale)) return false;
862: [08:40:18] <nontgor> ss23: canTranslate method is running through a bunch of checks when the member is null which seems kinda silly
863: [08:40:25] <ss23> mm
864: [08:40:34] <ss23> I think it may take some tweaks to the translatable module
865: [08:40:41] <ss23> If you don't need it fixed tonight, a github issue might be in order
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873: [09:20:31] <znorelo> is it possible to add <strong> (html tag) in a datagrid inside a modelAdmin ? (via $summary_fields)
874: [09:21:23] <zippy> yes'
875: [09:21:36] <znorelo> how ?
876: [09:21:57] <zippy> in your summary_fields you can call a function
877: [09:21:57] <zippy> like
878: [09:22:19] <zippy> $sumary_fields = array('MyFunction' => 'Title');
879: [09:23:05] <zippy> and then have public function MyFunction() { return new LiteralField('Title', '<strong>' . $this->Title . '</string>'); }
880: [09:23:16] <zippy> you will want to htmlescape that $this->Title
881: [09:23:22] <zippy> I think you can just return text as well
882: [09:23:30] <zippy> might not need to wrap in a literal field
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887: [09:39:56] <znorelo> @zippy : thanks
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890: [09:42:28] <Vedran__> anyone have any docs on improving TTFB with ss?
891: [09:43:32] <zippy> cache
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893: [09:50:40] <kinglozzer> Vedran__: What zippy said. If you don't want to use staticpublisher, then I thoroughly recommend https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-cacheinclude
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895: [09:51:10] <ocmnt> howdy ho
896: [09:51:25] <kinglozzer> Hey ocmnt
897: [09:51:43] <ocmnt> heya kinglozzer
898: [09:51:45] <ocmnt> whtsup?
899: [09:52:52] <kinglozzer> nm ocmnt, working through a few APIs which is giving me lots to complain about (I love complaining)
900: [09:52:53] <kinglozzer> you?
901: [09:52:53] <kinglozzer> :P
902: [09:53:15] <ocmnt> complaining is all we do, right? :D
903: [09:53:33] <ocmnt> I am quite decent, working in a .net/asp envirnment company since april
904: [09:53:38] <ocmnt> quite funny actually :P
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906: [09:55:09] <kinglozzer> Haha, yeah
907: [09:55:13] <ocmnt> tho I miss SS quite a lot to be honest
908: [09:55:16] <kinglozzer> Nice! Thought you'd been less active lately ;)
909: [09:55:32] <ocmnt> codequality and dedication is much higher here as anywhere else I found :P
910: [09:55:45] <ocmnt> so I decided just to spam the chat here from now on, every now and then :D
911: [09:56:31] <ocmnt> so, whats new here?
912: [09:57:21] <kinglozzer> Not much really, 3.2 is nearly at RC stage, simon_w I think has basically left the SS community permanently now, I think that's all
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915: [09:58:49] <kinglozzer> ocmnt: https://www.silverstripe-europe.org/
916: [09:58:56] <kinglozzer> Come if you're free! :D
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919: [10:06:20] <wmk> Zauberfisch, any info on the hotel in london available yet?
920: [10:06:38] <Eliseth> How suitable will conference be for absolute beginners such as myself?
921: [10:07:34] <wmk> Eliseth, last year a bunch of beginners have been there
922: [10:07:48] <wmk> maybe they split the talks to beginner / advanced
923: [10:08:18] <wmk> and best: you meet a lot of cool people
924: [10:08:51] <Vedran__> zippy / kinglozzer: I added cacheinclude. Didnt really notice a massive improvement locally.
925: [10:09:15] <Vedran__> static publisher may be next thing to try
926: [10:10:25] <kinglozzer> Vedran__: static publisher will *definitely* speed things up the most, as it completely avoids the framework and just serves HTML
927: [10:10:36] <kinglozzer> It just offers less flexibility over dynamic content
928: [10:11:56] <Vedran__> kinglozzer: can you dev/flush to update the static content?
929: [10:12:01] <Vedran__> https://imgur.com/RBNBFVs
930: [10:12:32] <wmk> Vedran__, static publisher is awsome
931: [10:12:38] <wmk> a small site or many many pages?
932: [10:12:39] <Vedran__> granted that image is larger than it should be, but that page is rendering a button. Should not take that long for time to first byte. Which makes me think its a SS thing
933: [10:12:51] <Vedran__> many pages, but mostly static content
934: [10:13:02] <wmk> well, maybe static publish queue is better
935: [10:13:15] <kinglozzer> Vedran__: What sort of hosting are you using? That's incredibly slow...
936: [10:13:17] <Vedran__> there are a few places that will be udpated. But if I can generate those pages using /dev/build or something of the like it would be great!
937: [10:13:21] <wmk> so it doesn't block when you hit "publish", cause it will render all related pages in a queue
938: [10:13:28] <kinglozzer> Vedran__: Yeah there is a task
939: [10:13:38] <Vedran__> kinglozzer: thats behind cloud flare as well
940: [10:13:40] <kinglozzer> /dev/tasks/RebuildStaticCache or something like that
941: [10:13:44] <wmk> yup. you can run the task for each language seperately
942: [10:13:46] * Vedran__ nods
943: [10:13:54] <Vedran__> the host is in Syd
944: [10:14:02] <wmk> i have this on some hotel pages which have the daily wether forecast
945: [10:14:03] <Vedran__> got other sites on there, nothing else seems to take as long
946: [10:14:30] * wmk wonders if staticpublisher with ajax for forms and dynamic data (like weather forecast) would rock...
947: [10:14:51] <wmk> so, even load the form with ajax into a static page
948: [10:15:25] <Vedran__> interesting
949: [10:15:58] <wmk> yup, never got into building this yet. but it's definitely on my todo list
950: [10:16:10] <wmk> together with nginx it should be totally fast
951: [10:16:23] <Eliseth> add hhvm :)
952: [10:16:29] <zippy> na, php 7
953: [10:16:30] <wmk> php7
954: [10:16:33] <wmk> ;)
955: [10:16:40] <Eliseth> That a viable option already?
956: [10:16:41] * zippy nudges wmk
957: [10:16:42] <wmk> well, ss3 won't work with php7
958: [10:16:50] <wmk> ss4 will
959: [10:16:53] <Eliseth> Ah, right
960: [10:16:59] <Vedran__> https://imgur.com/05yELle this is a slightly more 'complex' page. ie. loops / menu's etc. still quite slow TTFB
961: [10:17:01] <wmk> some naming conflicts
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963: [10:18:12] <wmk> Vedran__, also php5.5. / 5.6 is way faster than 5.3/5.4, nginx is faster than apache (but another nightmare if it's your first installation)
964: [10:19:01] <zippy> is nginx with php _really_ that much faster that apache with php?
965: [10:19:13] <wmk> Vedran__, have you seen the (some month old) blog post about speeding up your ss installation?
966: [10:20:49] <Vedran__> wmk: I have not. Link pls
967: [10:21:43] <wmk> mom
968: [10:21:50] <nontgor> zippy: I did an onsite job for Catalyst and I spent some time testing nginx and Apache. nginx serving 2000 requests for static files a second used less that *one* Apache worker, and when idle used about 5M of RAM
969: [10:22:19] <zippy> yea static files, which is why I said php :)
970: [10:22:41] <kinglozzer> zippy: IIRC there isn't a huge difference if you configure apache correctly
971: [10:23:17] <kinglozzer> http://systemsarchitect.net/apache2-vs-nginx-for-php-application/
972: [10:23:29] <nontgor> Vedran__: It is also worth checking for a splurge of database queries, I was given one site to fix that was taking over 70000 queries just to render the number '1' for unread notifications
973: [10:23:48] <Vedran__> nontgor: how do I do that?
974: [10:24:09] <kinglozzer> Vedran__: ?showqueries=1
975: [10:24:13] <kinglozzer> (dev mode)
976: [10:24:43] <wmk> http://www.silverstripe.org/blog/improving-silverstripe-performance/
977: [10:24:54] <nontgor> see https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/2979 for technique I used
978: [10:24:54] <wmk> Vedran__, ^^
979: [10:24:58] <Vedran__> doesnt look excessive
980: [10:25:03] <Vedran__> its not like there are thousands of querries
981: [10:25:27] <Vedran__> thanks wmk
982: [10:26:40] <wmk> Vedran__, also http://www.silverstripe.org/blog/how-to-improve-website-performance/
983: [10:28:11] <wmk> that's not fair!
984: [10:30:56] <kinglozzer> wmk: Like I said "if configured correctly" ;)
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986: [10:32:01] <Vedran__> wmk: thats referring to nginx right?
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990: [10:47:56] <ocmnt> kinglozzer thnx for that :D I will have to see wether I be able to join in this year
991: [10:48:08] <ocmnt> looking forward to be there, but unsure until half september for now
992: [10:49:18] <ocmnt> btw, has anyone here ever tried numbernotation conversion?
993: [10:49:25] <ocmnt> like arabic to our numbers
994: [10:49:27] <ocmnt> or kanji to ours?
995: [10:50:02] <ocmnt> so that "123456.789" == "???????????"
996: [10:50:10] <ocmnt> oh, that isnt working, should be arabic numbers xD
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999: [11:05:31] <Copperis> how to clear all caches / flush everything on the frontend from code? It's called from LeftAndMain in the CMS btw. SSViewer::flush() doesn't seem to do anything
1000: [11:07:35] <kinglozzer> Copperis: What sort of cache are you trying to clear?
1001: [11:08:46] <Copperis> template caches, cacheblocks in them
1002: [11:09:02] <zippy> flush woulld do it
1003: [11:09:55] <kinglozzer> Copperis: SSViewer::flush_cacheblock_cache(true) should do it
1004: [11:12:50] <zippy> soo
1005: [11:13:06] <zippy> SS 3.1 or 3.2 is not going to run on PHP 7?
1006: [11:13:12] <kinglozzer> zippy: No
1007: [11:13:26] <zippy> isn't that a good reason to roll out 4?
1008: [11:13:35] <zippy> to gain the speed and memory
1009: [11:14:44] <Copperis> kinglozzer, nope, the templates don't get flushed
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1011: [11:15:25] <Copperis> maybe I'll just rm -r the cache directory
1012: [11:17:35] <Copperis> yup, that works :D
1013: [11:18:18] <kinglozzer> zippy: There's a lot more to go into 4 than just PHP 7 support though
1014: [11:19:03] <kinglozzer> We *could* just rename those classes (and fix the other issues with PHP 7) and release it as 4, then defer everything to 5 I suppose
1015: [11:19:45] <kinglozzer> But then you confuse people with what their expectations are of a "major" release - 3 -> 4 would be a very simple upgrade, then 4 -> 5 would be a near-rewrite (like how 2.4 -> 3.0 was)
1016: [11:21:19] <Mike123> I have Category DO which has SubCategories DO , i need to print it in rows, one row has max 5 records, print should be forted by Category , so if new category starts i need new row, like this http://sspaste.com/paste/show/55dc4f9f71d7d:
1017: [11:22:29] <Mike123> Sorted*
1018: [11:22:44] <kinglozzer> Mike123: Sounds like you need GroupedList
1019: [11:23:21] <Mike123> kinglozzer , hmmm never heard about it
1020: [11:24:13] <kinglozzer> Mike123: https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.1/developer_guides/model/how_tos/grouping_dataobject_sets/
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1022: [11:24:43] <kinglozzer> You just need to adjust that example to fetch category title, instead of "first letter" or "month"
1023: [11:28:01] <Mike123> wellsounds easy :) but i think if will not work for me somehow , let me see u in 5 mins :)
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1025: [11:29:51] <Mike123> kinglozzer, but i need new row even if there a same category but it has more subcattegories than one row can hold
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1027: [11:30:54] <kinglozzer> Mike123: When you're looping through the children, <% if $MultipleOf(4) %></div><div class="row"><% end_if %>
1028: [11:31:14] <kinglozzer> Or something like that
1029: [11:31:49] <Mike123> kinglozzer , thanks , will try that now
1030: [11:34:01] <samlander> anyone know how to change the arrows on a paginatedlist?
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1032: [11:34:13] <samlander> i want to use chevrons instead of the default ←
1033: [11:34:47] <Mike123> salamander, u can customizer pagination template
1034: [11:34:57] <samlander> ah coolness
1035: [11:36:09] <Mike123> just create ur Pagination.ss in .../Includes/ and here is some article to help u https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.1/developer_guides/templates/how_tos/pagination/
1036: [11:36:31] <samlander> thanks mike
1037: [11:36:59] <wmk> kinglozzer, wasn't aware you can configure apache to ignore .htaccess
1038: [11:37:20] <wmk> but then you also have to configure the vhost correctly...
1039: [11:37:30] <wmk> .htaccess and go is the biggest pro of apache
1040: [11:38:27] <wmk> ocmnt, number conversion... well, shouldn't be anything different from decimal to hex...
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1045: [12:09:08] <ocmnt> wmk, it is about number recognition in javascript
1046: [12:09:15] <ocmnt> like kanji (japaneese) or arabic numbers
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1048: [12:09:30] <ocmnt> but I decided to just give an error when it is not western notation
1049: [12:09:55] <wmk> ocmnt, yup. best so i guess
1050: [12:10:25] <wmk> depending what kind of number i prefer some pickers or dropdowns (e.g. number of persons...)
1051: [12:10:28] <wmk> or date
1052: [12:10:46] <wmk> but arabic.. don't we have arabic numbers?
1053: [12:11:19] <wmk> or are you meaning utf-8 codes of arabic numbers?
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1055: [12:21:00] <Copperis> wmk, 1 2 3 - western arabic, there's apparently also eastern and so on
1056: [12:22:47] <wmk> but can you calculate with it in computer?
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1058: [12:26:24] <arnhoe> Is there any way to force the url update? So many of our customers create pages with links as page-1, page-2 etc
1059: [12:27:35] <Copperis> wmk, interesting question. I guess they're represented in bits the same as arabic numbers - sure, if not - not. Guess depends on how your calculator treats numbers
1060: [12:27:47] <Copperis> *if they're
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1064: [12:39:34] <Copperis> arnhoe, this is the relevant code that display the change url button https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/blob/3/javascript/CMSMain.EditForm.js#L46 so you could write a JS plugin for the backend that calls that method more often
1065: [12:47:46] <ocmnt> wmk, if you want to know about the numbers try something like this:
1066: [12:47:51] <ocmnt> var number = "21312312";
1067: [12:48:05] <ocmnt> number.toLocaleString('ar-EG')
1068: [12:48:06] <ocmnt> in console
1069: [12:48:16] <ocmnt> gives you nice arabic number notation
1070: [12:48:26] <ocmnt> but there aint a reverse version of that in ecmascript
1071: [12:48:27] <ocmnt> :(
1072: [12:49:42] <wmk> stringToNumber?
1073: [12:49:52] <ocmnt> is that a thing?
1074: [12:49:53] <ocmnt> haha
1075: [12:51:11] <ocmnt> Number() / parseInt() on the toLocaleString gives NaN
1076: [12:52:00] <wmk> ocmnt, well, you can do str_replace, as it's also a decimal system?
1077: [12:52:26] <ocmnt> its pretty hard to convert the numbers back to normal numbers
1078: [12:52:37] <ocmnt> I think I have to write an asci converter someday for that
1079: [12:52:48] <ocmnt> thanks anyway for thinking along ^^
1080: [12:52:54] <wmk> read ascii-converter = regex?
1081: [12:53:18] <ocmnt> no clue what you mean by that
1082: [12:53:21] <ocmnt> :D
1083: [12:56:55] <wmk> well, it's regen (rain) with a x at the end instead of n
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1085: [12:57:37] <znorelo> Hello everyone,
1086: [12:57:37] <znorelo> I have a design problem with Silverstripe 3.1. I do not know how to do.
1087: [12:57:38] <znorelo> I have 3 DataObject: Newspaper, Interview and Post.
1088: [12:57:38] <znorelo> A Newpaper has several Interviews and several Post. How to make in the Newspaper ModelAdmin, I can manage the order of Interviews and Posts inside a single DataGrid Field?
1089: [12:58:37] <znorelo> Journal has_many Interview et Post
1090: [12:58:46] <znorelo> Post and Interview has_one Journal
1091: [12:59:05] <wmk> znorelo, is Interview a subclass of Post (or vice versa?)
1092: [12:59:31] <znorelo> wmk : noop, it's two diferent object
1093: [12:59:37] <wmk> that's bad
1094: [12:59:41] <znorelo> :)
1095: [12:59:50] <wmk> afaik you cannot do this then in a gridfield
1096: [12:59:50] <znorelo> I can do it
1097: [13:00:14] <wmk> if they share a lot of fields you should make one the subclass of the other
1098: [13:00:28] <znorelo> like Interview extends Newspaper_content
1099: [13:00:40] <znorelo> and Post extends Newspaper_content
1100: [13:00:41] <wmk> then you can order them afaik. might be tricky.
1101: [13:00:52] <wmk> yup. something like that
1102: [13:01:04] <wmk> and Newspaper has_many NewspaperContent
1103: [13:01:12] <znorelo> yep
1104: [13:01:13] <wmk> (go with camelcase for classnames...)
1105: [13:01:21] <znorelo> ok
1106: [13:01:30] <wmk> there is a gridfield button for selecting the kind of class to add
1107: [13:01:42] <znorelo> really ?
1108: [13:02:00] <znorelo> how do you do that
1109: [13:02:46] <wmk> GridFieldAddNewMultiClass https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-gridfieldextensions
1110: [13:03:00] <wmk> have to run, cu
1111: [13:03:22] <znorelo> cu
1112: [13:03:26] <znorelo> thanks
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1114: [13:13:37] <darjus01> Hi all can it be. http://snag.gy/cU3Jz.jpg then are č folders pdf and uploads, I can open pdf folder from files view in cms but uploads throws internal server error, but then adding files from upload fields to uploads directory all ok
1115: [13:13:41] <darjus01> ?
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1117: [13:47:19] <kinglozzer> darjus01: dev mode and error logs!
1118: [13:47:35] <darjus01> 500 dev mode
1119: [13:51:04] <Copperis> darjus01, maybe set "php_flag display_errors on" in .htaccess?
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1122: [13:52:45] <darjus01> Allowed memory size of 67108864 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 6300 bytes) in framework/filesystem/GD.php on line 51
1123: [13:53:22] <darjus01> is this php memory not enouth?
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1126: [13:54:30] <Copperis> yup, looks like it's not enough memory
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1128: [13:55:46] <srixon> Hi, can someone point me toward a good tutorial on how to add a dropdown menu (enum list) into a page class? All i find is confusing, at least to my eyes :-)
1129: [13:55:52] <darjus01> thx man
1130: [13:55:58] <Copperis> np
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1132: [13:59:28] <kinglozzer> srixon: What are you stuck with?
1133: [14:02:02] <srixon> <kinglozzer>Let me sspaste what i did.
1134: [14:02:11] <Copperis> If I use a made up locale like "en_IT.yml" with translatable, it errors: Uncaught Zend_Translate_Exception: Locale "en" not found in file /var/www/website/mysite/lang/en_IT.yml. Any ideas on what's happening and how to solve this?
1135: [14:02:36] <Copperis> it's looking for "en" and not "en_IT"
1136: [14:04:12] <srixon> <kinglozzer>Here it is http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55dc75bfa4897
1137: [14:05:26] <kinglozzer> srixon: You've got two private static $db
1138: [14:05:41] <kinglozzer> Apart from that it looks fine
1139: [14:06:22] <srixon> <kinglozzer>So i combine the two private items into one?
1140: [14:06:30] <kinglozzer> srixon: Yeah
1141: [14:06:43] <kinglozzer> The two "db" ones
1142: [14:07:53] <kinglozzer> srixon: Also, did you deliberately make PageAnnonceur extend SiteTree instead of extending Page?
1143: [14:08:28] <kinglozzer> Otherwise it should be - class PageAnnonceur extends Page { ... } and class PageAnnonceur_Controller extends Page_Controller { ... }
1144: [14:09:27] <kinglozzer> Copperis: You probably can't do that
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1146: [14:09:51] <kinglozzer> Zend will try to verify the locale, I'm guessing it falls back to stripping the '_IT' part off if it can't find one
1147: [14:12:47] <Copperis> kinglozzer, looks like it, _IT gets stripped somwhere in Zend/Locale.php
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1149: [14:24:21] <Copperis> kinglozzer, disabling this check https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3/thirdparty/Zend/Locale.php#L498 i.e. making it always go to else -> works. Could there be any side effects?
1150: [14:30:01] <srixon> * Server Offline / I have a main site www.mysite.com which is showing a plain HTML IN-DEVELOPMENT page. I have a sub-folder www.mysite.com/ss where i develop the SS application. This location /ss sends a Server Offline message. Tried to dev/build, no avail. You can see at www.gerervotreimmeuble.com/ss Thanks!
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1153: [14:33:55] <muskie9> srixon it comes up just fine for me: http://puu.sh/jO1Tt/42e88bed4a.png
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1156: [14:45:59] <srixon> <muskie>Maybe my IP is blocked? As i tried numerous thing?
1157: [14:48:20] <srixon> <muskie9>My iPhone sees it. Ip blocked?
1158: [14:48:46] <muskie9> maybe, I'm in the US, where are u
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1163: [15:08:01] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5627 (3 - 199f0ea : Will Morgan): The build passed.
1164: [15:08:01] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/445f1d4ccbcc...199f0ea92d89
1165: [15:08:01] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/77165715
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1168: [15:15:54] <srixon> <muskie>Have to leave. Be back tonight. I am in Montreal.
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1170: [15:20:20] <muskie9> sounds good
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1174: [15:31:43] <ss-helper> Handle MySQL error in Silverstripe with DB::query - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32207953/handle-mysql-error-in-silverstripe-with-dbquery
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1179: [16:10:14] <travis-ci> dhensby/silverstripe-framework#465 (3 - 199f0ea : Will Morgan): The build was broken.
1180: [16:10:14] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/compare/0b177ad20feb...199f0ea92d89
1181: [16:10:14] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/dhensby/silverstripe-framework/builds/77177135
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1188: [16:31:36] <terryapodaca> Is there an easy way to change/customize a single form if there are multiple UserForms in a site?
1189: [16:32:22] <terryapodaca> Like, use an <% if %> statement in the template based on some class or tag that the UDF can put in the templage?
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1191: [16:39:42] <Copperis> terryapodaca, you use userform as a page type right?
1192: [16:40:33] <terryapodaca> Copperis: yes
1193: [16:41:25] <terryapodaca> I have 4 userforms, all different names/page-names, but all use the userforms module to create the forms on each page
1194: [16:41:43] <Copperis> you can make subclasses of UserDefinedForm with new names and make templates for each subclass
1195: [16:42:22] <Copperis> then create those subclasses instead of userdefinedform directly
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1198: [16:54:42] <terryapodaca> Is there a way to know what $Field you are on in the email template?
1199: [16:55:16] <terryapodaca> the template does loop $Fields, I assume there is a count or ID=field1 or something
1200: [16:56:08] <wmk> terryapodaca, $Name or $Title ?
1201: [16:56:27] <wmk> see Field class what's available
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1216: [18:08:52] <bell> Remember my index.php problem last night? Still not solved. Host said he cant desactivate eaccelErator....
1217: [18:09:58] <bell> Host reverted to a 48hrs back-up, same problem. He placed a redirect for www.mysite.com to show www.mysite.com/index.php ALl others URLS of the site shows /index.php/
1218: [18:10:56] <bell> <terryapodaca><sphere>Please see previous post about my /index.php/ issues.
1219: [18:11:29] <Sphere> bell: adding alternative base url doesn't work?
1220: [18:11:33] <Sphere> in _config.php
1221: [18:12:02] <Sphere> Director::alternative_base_url('/'); or, in yaml Director.alternative_base_url: '/'
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1226: [18:18:19] <Sphere> Ow, wait, ow crap.... bell, you are seriously stuck with eAccellerator?
1227: [18:18:41] <Sphere> Go find another host, or have them disable it. eAcc is the worst of all available precompilers!
1228: [18:19:01] <Sphere> I doesn't support anonymous functions, it's outdated, etc.
1229: [18:19:24] <Sphere> Get hosting that has PHP 5.5+, preferably 5.6, which both have built-in caching!
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1231: [18:21:51] <bell> <sphere>Indeed eaccelarator... ANd hos says he cant desactivate it, site is at godaddy (holy crap)
1232: [18:22:11] <Sphere> Ok.... do you really want an answer from me?
1233: [18:22:17] <Sphere> Here it is: MOVE YOUR STUFF
1234: [18:22:54] <Sphere> Seriously, GoDaddy has been nothing but a hell to me. Try NameCheap, or any other provider, heck, maybe even get a VPS from DigitalOcean
1235: [18:23:01] <Sphere> But GoDaddy :X :X :X
1236: [18:23:09] <Sphere> Sorry.... Don't go there :X
1237: [18:24:03] <bell> <sphere>What buzzes me is that it happened just like that, 1 year after running the site!
1238: [18:25:02] <bell> <sphere>Ok have to go. Thanks!
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1249: [19:54:20] <FrozenFire> silverstripe.org is down?
1250: [19:55:10] <FrozenFire> Fatal error: Cannot redeclare class SS_DAG in /var/www/mysite/releases/a88d47e29bb039317293d2205c2d140619a6e5a3/framework/core/DAG.php on line 10
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1252: [19:59:50] <Sphere> Sounds/looks like a failed deployment :D\
1253: [19:59:53] <Sphere> Sounds/looks like a failed deployment :D
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1257: [20:10:42] <darjus01> hi all i have question one sistem makes requst by link and giving data with POST to funtion, but in server logs seems its 404 here screen: http://snag.gy/MpcrM.jpg
1258: [20:11:06] <darjus01> maybe I am doing somethin wrong?
1259: [20:11:19] <darjus01> function is in allowed function array
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1265: [20:31:55] <zippy> So.. SS 3.x wont run on PHP7 eh, and will have to wait a year for 4 before it will..
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1268: [20:33:14] <DanaeNZ> morning all
1269: [20:33:21] <DanaeNZ> my desk is cold :( on my wrists
1270: [20:33:29] <zippy> naww
1271: [20:34:01] <zippy> thats a first world problem there isn't it
1272: [20:35:23] <DanaeNZ> lmao
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1274: [20:38:33] <eolant> Morning
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1276: [20:42:11] <DanaeNZ> \o
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1304: [21:56:26] <irogue-5> <zippy> So.. SS 3.x wont run on PHP7 eh, and will have to wait a year for 4 before it will..
1305: [21:56:31] <irogue-5> i'm sure Cheddam was running it on php7
1306: [21:56:41] <zippy> after some class fixes?
1307: [21:57:05] <zippy> I think it's just some class names that need to be changed, so you can patch the core yourself, but it's not "offical"
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1310: [21:59:27] <irogue-5> ah yep
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1312: [21:59:41] <irogue-5> yeah just read the discussion in github issue
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1315: [22:00:54] <zippy> ah there is a discussion, link?
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1317: [22:03:58] <irogue-5> seems it would be pretty difficult to fix it in a point release, very BC breaking
1318: [22:04:15] <irogue-5> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/4271
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1320: [22:05:40] <zippy> oh yea there is no way it'd go in a 3.x
1321: [22:06:03] <irogue-5> zippy: can I request a feature for ss-helper?
1322: [22:06:07] <zippy> sure
1323: [22:06:23] <zippy> btw, I think someone blocked him from the forum again, should whitelist his ip. He doesn't hit that much
1324: [22:06:25] <RyanPotter> “It’s either that or SilverStripe/Framework/Floater” lolol
1325: [22:06:42] <irogue-5> "!notes x" posts a link to https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/x
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1327: [22:07:00] <irogue-5> e.g. "!notes hosting" would link https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/hosting
1328: [22:07:15] <zippy> sure
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1331: [22:07:33] <irogue-5> also let me know your github username and I can add you as a contributor to that github
1332: [22:08:17] <zippy> to what github
1333: [22:08:30] <irogue-5> ss-irc wiki
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1335: [22:08:36] <zippy> but I didn't :)
1336: [22:08:39] <RyanPotter> What’re we actually doing with that repo?
1337: [22:10:52] <irogue-5> RyanPotter: unofficial docs-ish stuff we can link people who ask for help to
1338: [22:11:06] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: WHERE CAN I FIND NIPPY'S?
1339: [22:11:33] <RyanPotter> “How can I hire tall beautiful devs that’re moving to London?“
1340: [22:11:49] <RyanPotter> “Regardless or hair colour”
1341: [22:11:53] <RyanPotter> of**
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1344: [22:12:30] <zippy> !notes
1345: [22:12:30] <ss-helper> Give me something to work with here buddy... Usage: !notes something
1346: [22:12:34] <zippy> !notes foo
1347: [22:12:34] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/foo
1348: [22:12:46] <zippy> irogue-5: happy?
1349: [22:12:58] <chocolatemoose> !notes !notes
1350: [22:12:59] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/!notes
1351: [22:13:03] <RyanPotter> zippy: that’s pretty sweet.
1352: [22:13:20] <zippy> I should give the got some more love..
1353: [22:13:24] <zippy> *bot
1354: [22:13:32] <zippy> look at that, can't even say it properly
1355: [22:13:55] <RyanPotter> !notes nippys
1356: [22:13:56] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
1357: [22:14:00] <RyanPotter> zippy: ^
1358: [22:14:09] <zippy> :)
1359: [22:14:24] <RyanPotter> That’s pretty fucking cool. Well done everyone.
1360: [22:14:28] <RyanPotter> We have reacheds the pinnicle.
1361: [22:14:38] <RyanPotter> or however you spell that
1362: [22:14:45] <irogue-5> I remember writing my first IRC bot
1363: [22:14:54] <irogue-5> it was in PHP, which was not an easy thing to do at the time
1364: [22:14:59] <RyanPotter> irogue-5: hot single girls in your area?
1365: [22:15:06] <zippy> irogue-5: now how about sorting out that connection refused with http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/rss :)
1366: [22:15:11] <Stomach> Go away, Stevie
1367: [22:15:13] <Stomach> damnit RyanPotter
1368: [22:15:15] <Stomach> :(
1369: [22:15:18] <RyanPotter> Stomach: :P
1370: [22:15:21] <RyanPotter> Stomach: IT’S NOT READY
1371: [22:15:30] <RyanPotter> I just get nervouis when things aren’t on github
1372: [22:15:33] <RyanPotter> nervous
1373: [22:15:33] <Stomach> :D
1374: [22:15:47] <RyanPotter> Stomach: working on it all today.
1375: [22:15:49] <zippy> coffee time
1376: [22:15:51] <RyanPotter> stupid entwine.
1377: [22:16:28] <Stomach> :D
1378: [22:16:30] <Stomach> exciting
1379: [22:16:40] <Stomach> irogue-5 - I get to be part of the repository! yay!
1380: [22:16:46] <RyanPotter> Stomach: I’m doing the site designer module at the same time
1381: [22:17:02] <irogue-5> zippy: ask ss23, I don't have access to any of that shit
1382: [22:18:30] <DanaeNZ> I
1383: [22:18:32] <DanaeNZ> HAVE
1384: [22:18:34] <DanaeNZ> NIPPY'S
1385: [22:18:47] <RyanPotter> !notes nippys
1386: [22:18:47] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
1387: [22:18:52] <irogue-5> I have Rockstar Punched
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1389: [22:19:07] <DanaeNZ> god that's the most perfect thing ever
1390: [22:19:10] <Stomach> !notes VBlue V
1391: [22:19:10] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/VBlue
1392: [22:19:13] <Stomach> !notes Blue V
1393: [22:19:13] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Blue
1394: [22:19:17] <Stomach> !notes "Blue V"
1395: [22:19:18] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Blue V
1396: [22:19:24] <Stomach> !notes "Blue-V"
1397: [22:19:24] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Blue-V
1398: [22:19:27] <Stomach> YAY
1399: [22:19:34] <DanaeNZ> XD
1400: [22:19:55] <DanaeNZ> someone needs to make a glorious photoshop of nippy's
1401: [22:20:45] <DanaeNZ> oh sweet baby jesus this is delicious
1402: [22:21:09] <Stomach> things need images
1403: [22:21:14] <Stomach> !notes Blue-V
1404: [22:21:14] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/Blue-V
1405: [22:21:22] <DanaeNZ> XD
1406: [22:21:34] <DanaeNZ> OMG we all need a selfie with Nippys for the nippy's page
1407: [22:22:05] <RyanPotter> Will take at 2pm
1408: [22:22:09] <RyanPotter> I like that idea.
1409: [22:24:16] <DanaeNZ> !notes nippys
1410: [22:24:17] <ss-helper> https://github.com/ss-irc/notes/wiki/nippys
1411: [22:24:22] <DanaeNZ> it has begun
1412: [22:25:00] <chocolatemoose> niptastic
1413: [22:25:14] <irogue-5> bell: you're the chap on clic.net right?
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1418: [22:33:25] <irogue-5> who all is coming to phpconfnz?
1419: [22:33:58] <zippy> I know this might sound a bit stupid
1420: [22:34:16] * irogue-5 awaits some stupid
1421: [22:34:29] <zippy> But does anyone use anything for change logs? Like, I want to write in a summary, and then have notes for developers and then notes for customers
1422: [22:34:39] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: ME
1423: [22:34:46] <zippy> and looks nice..
1424: [22:34:59] <DanaeNZ> zippy: i too am interested
1425: [22:35:04] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: YAY. We'll have to have drinks.
1426: [22:35:08] <DanaeNZ> drinkies
1427: [22:35:21] <DanaeNZ> me Stomach and antmas are having drinks on sunday too
1428: [22:35:21] <Stomach> I am coming
1429: [22:35:34] <zippy> the notes for devs are hidden of course with a password or something, but that way I can point to it and say, here is whats changed
1430: [22:35:36] <DanaeNZ> I'm planning on going to the WWI exhibit on Thursday evening
1431: [22:35:41] <DanaeNZ> But I'll be around til saturday
1432: [22:35:43] <zippy> I could make something, but just wonder if there is something
1433: [22:35:45] <irogue-5> zippy: we just have a docs repo for that stuff
1434: [22:35:57] <Stomach> yeah us too
1435: [22:35:58] <zippy> right, but I have developer stuff not for client end
1436: [22:36:09] <zippy> I thought about having just a bunch of md files, but have client and dev stuff
1437: [22:36:20] <zippy> Guess could have two documents for each change
1438: [22:36:51] <irogue-5> yeah we don't differentiate, the client just gets the developer changelog and ignores the stuff they don't understand :P
1439: [22:37:21] <Stomach> we have MD for everything then just use https://github.com/Tom-Alexander/markdown-docs to make them nice for clients
1440: [22:37:34] <Stomach> http://tom-alexander.github.io/markdown-docs/#/
1441: [22:37:57] <zippy> yea I think that would be good for general docs as well.
1442: [22:37:58] <zippy> hmm
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1444: [22:38:25] <irogue-5> DanaeNZ: coming to the warmup or will you not be down here yet?
1445: [22:38:33] <zippy> irogue-5: unblock the bot!
1446: [22:38:43] <DanaeNZ> irogue-5: yepyep I'll be there on tuesday
1447: [22:38:48] * permanentinc quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1448: [22:38:49] <DanaeNZ> brb
1449: [22:39:06] <Stomach> we only get there at like 7pm on wednesday :(
1450: [22:39:18] * zippy have to release the kragle
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1452: [22:39:30] <irogue-5> zippy: i can't! ss23 has to! though its possible it isn't blocked at our end, CF could have done some auto-blocking
1453: [22:39:58] <Stomach> cloudflare blocked india for us
1454: [22:40:00] <Stomach> that was nice of them
1455: [22:40:01] <Stomach> >_<
1456: [22:42:16] <zippy> fiar call
1457: [22:42:35] * irogue-5 will give Stomach and DanaeNZ a wellington office tour
1458: [22:43:20] <zippy> whats the xero php client to use these days
1459: [22:43:27] <zippy> official one seems a bit po
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1461: [22:46:55] <zippy> https://github.com/picqer/xero-php-client looks pretty good
1462: [22:48:05] <zippy> m or https://github.com/calcinai/xero-php
1463: [22:50:08] <chocolatemoose> what's the better campaignmonitor module? tractorcow or sunnysideup?
1464: [22:51:26] <irogue-5> chocolatemoose: depends what you want
1465: [22:51:47] <chocolatemoose> just a simple way to add users to a list via the api
1466: [22:51:50] <irogue-5> tractorcow's is just an API wrapper. you're expected to create your own forms etc that talk to it
1467: [22:51:54] <zippy> tell us what you want what you really really want
1468: [22:52:14] <irogue-5> ssu's is a full drop-in implementation with a signup form etc
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1470: [22:52:22] <chocolatemoose> ah, cool
1471: [22:52:33] <irogue-5> personally I'd always use tractorcows so I have full control over the implementation of the form
1472: [22:53:17] <chocolatemoose> that's what I was leaning towards
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1476: [23:03:06] <spronk> hharrr
1477: [23:03:18] <zippy> ep
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1483: [23:13:37] <Colin[pi]> howdy folks o/
1484: [23:14:00] <irogue-5> doody Colin[pi] \o
1485: [23:14:54] <adrexia> heya
1486: [23:15:54] <muskie9> hey all, I have a SpiffManager DataExtension... I'd like to move the many_many relations when the page type changes, assuming the page type that the page is being updated to has the DE applied to it should something like this work: https://gist.github.com/muskie9/a448f7aa6aa3c874ba37
1487: [23:16:52] <muskie9> getting an error saying saying the relation doesn't exist if I call just ->Spiffs() and that the component doesn't exist if I use the ->getManyManyComponents()
1488: [23:17:07] <muskie9> but both the old and new page class have the DataExtension applied
1489: [23:17:42] * zippy slaps ss23 with a large trout
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1494: [23:29:47] <muskie9> nvm, had a typo in the manymanycomponents call
1495: [23:29:54] <irogue-5> zippy: its a bit too early for ss23 to be at work
1496: [23:30:07] <Colin[pi]> lol yeah he starts like, what, 1pm?
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1498: [23:30:17] <zippy> I thought 10am
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1502: [23:39:10] <Stomach> 7.43pm
1503: [23:44:49] <Colin[pi]> why do people use infinite scrolling
1504: [23:44:50] <Colin[pi]> why
1505: [23:45:04] <muskie9> because designers and clients saw it on Facebook
1506: [23:45:17] * Colin[pi] cries
1507: [23:45:20] <Colin[pi]> it's horrid
1508: [23:45:29] <irogue-5> there are some places I like it
1509: [23:45:42] <muskie9> and makes you write something to replace GroupedList cause you can't paginate that
1510: [23:45:51] <muskie9> and use infinite scroll
1511: [23:45:53] <ss23> zippy: whats up?
1512: [23:45:59] <ss23> oh
1513: [23:46:01] <ss23> the bot is blocked again?
1514: [23:46:02] <zippy> yes...
1515: [23:46:04] <zippy> yess.
1516: [23:46:07] <irogue-5> like, it makes sense on stuff like twitter and facebook
1517: [23:46:24] <Colin[pi]> yeah
1518: [23:46:24] <ss23> cloudflare isn't enabled at the moment
1519: [23:46:35] <ss23> zippy: We gotta do some stuff internally, but I'll add it to the list
1520: [23:46:37] <irogue-5> anywhere with a timeline that isn't really linkable cos its personal
1521: [23:46:46] <zippy> do some stuff internally?
1522: [23:47:10] <zippy> is this going to turn into something like those videos and will take a few months?
1523: [23:47:16] <ss23> lol
1524: [23:47:20] <ss23> What videos?!
1525: [23:47:25] <zippy> EXACTLY
1526: [23:47:31] <ss23> XD
1527: [23:47:38] <irogue-5> I was pretty stoked to have infinite scroll in WestpacOne
1528: [23:47:51] <ss23> irogue-5: infinite scroll is THE FUCKING WORST EVERY TIME IT'S BULLSHIT
1529: [23:47:56] <Colin[pi]> +1 ss23
1530: [23:47:57] <ss23> They're like "Hey usability? GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU BITCH"
1531: [23:48:05] <ss23> man
1532: [23:48:07] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: ... infinite scroll on a bank site?
1533: [23:48:08] <ss23> makes me so fucking mad
1534: [23:48:14] <RyanPotter> “Load More” with a url change is what I like
1535: [23:48:14] <zippy> there is links in the footer, try and click them!
1536: [23:48:25] <Colin[pi]> ss23: WHAT IF I WANT TO SEE THE FOOTER AMIRITE?
1537: [23:48:30] <chocolatemoose> it's a game
1538: [23:48:39] <chocolatemoose> first person to click the links gets $10
1539: [23:49:02] <irogue-5> Colin[pi]: internet banking
1540: [23:49:07] <irogue-5> for the transaction list
1541: [23:49:26] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: ugh
1542: [23:50:37] <Colin[pi]> naming time... what do people call those single line of links in the footer of most sites? Footer links? lol
1543: [23:50:52] <Colin[pi]> trying to come up with a name that doesn't contain footer
1544: [23:51:01] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: Footer menu
1545: [23:51:05] <RyanPotter> or context menu?
1546: [23:51:07] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: that's worse
1547: [23:51:07] <irogue-5> footer links is totally the most logical thing to call them
1548: [23:51:08] <Colin[pi]> :P
1549: [23:51:14] <Colin[pi]> irogue-5: yeah I guess
1550: [23:51:20] <RyanPotter> Why wouldn’t you call them footer links?
1551: [23:51:31] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: what if you want the same thing in the header?
1552: [23:51:39] <Colin[pi]> Header links
1553: [23:51:40] <Colin[pi]> LOL
1554: [23:51:55] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: The you would make a method headerlinks and just call the static footer link method :P
1555: [23:51:58] <Colin[pi]> LOL
1556: [23:52:01] <Colin[pi]> on ss.org
1557: [23:52:06] <Colin[pi]> they seem to be "pill nav"
1558: [23:52:17] <RyanPotter> that’s bootstrap naming
1559: [23:52:21] <Colin[pi]> oic
1560: [23:52:31] <RyanPotter> well popularised by twbs
1561: [23:52:35] <Colin[pi]> class FlatLineOfLinks ?
1562: [23:52:44] <Colin[pi]> class OneLinerLinks
1563: [23:53:04] <Colin[pi]> fuckin naming
1564: [23:53:07] <Colin[pi]> bane of my existence
1565: [23:53:11] <RyanPotter> %menu-links {} .footer_menu {@extends %menu-links}
1566: [23:53:31] <RyanPotter> .footer__menu**
1567: [23:53:43] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: hmm I have a class already called MenuNavigation
1568: [23:53:57] <RyanPotter> Not DRY enough, bruv.
1569: [23:54:03] <Colin[pi]> -_-
1570: [23:54:08] <Colin[pi]> bite the pillow RyanPotter
1571: [23:54:11] <Colin[pi]> I'm goin in DRY
1572: [23:54:24] <RyanPotter> Well apperently you;re not, COLIN
1573: [23:54:28] <Colin[pi]> :(
1574: [23:54:30] <zippy> lol
1575: [23:54:31] <RyanPotter> :)
1576: [23:54:56] <RyanPotter> Entwine doesn’t seem to like regenerated html contasiners.
1577: [23:54:58] <RyanPotter> Hmmm.
1578: [23:55:04] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: ajax?
1579: [23:55:07] <RyanPotter> ye
1580: [23:55:12] <spronk> hm
1581: [23:55:18] <Colin[pi]> mm loses the event after refresh?
1582: [23:55:31] <RyanPotter> Can’t call the method.
1583: [23:55:43] <RyanPotter> even though it’s not rebuilt. Just it’s children content.
1584: [23:55:50] <Colin[pi]> hmm
1585: [23:56:03] <Colin[pi]> I blame ss23
1586: [23:56:04] <RyanPotter> Well it does if I refresh the page.
1587: [23:56:08] <RyanPotter> which is even weirder.
1588: [23:56:16] <zippy> ss23: hello
1589: [23:56:20] <RyanPotter> since the onmatch fires regardless of state
1590: [23:56:38] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: sounds like that classic prob of ajax refresh / dom losing it's event handlers
1591: [23:56:51] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: it’s a weird bug.
1592: [23:56:54] <RyanPotter> Will keep debugging.
1593: [23:57:29] <RyanPotter> Glad I added debug tools to this class :P http://i.imgur.com/P0uTFtA.png
1594: [23:57:37] <ss23> hel
1595: [23:57:38] <ss23> help
1596: [23:57:42] <ss23> im being talked to
1597: [23:57:49] <chocolatemoose> is this the only mailgun module? https://github.com/mrkdevelopment/silverstripe-mailgun
1598: [23:58:10] * zippy is still sad mandrill changed their plans
1599: [23:58:24] <spronk> hmm?
1600: [23:58:28] <spronk> what did mandrill do?
1601: [23:58:35] <Colin[pi]> zippy: ikr :(
1602: [23:58:46] <zippy> used to have free tier
1603: [23:58:48] <zippy> now no
1604: [23:58:50] <spronk> ohhh right
1605: [23:59:06] <Colin[pi]> I'm still pissed about Google Apps
1606: [23:59:08] <spronk> free tiers are for loonies
1607: [23:59:09] <spronk> ugh
1608: [23:59:13] <spronk> google apps is a PITA
1609: [23:59:21] <spronk> why can't they offer a LOW cost plan that doesnt include most of the other junk
1610: [23:59:27] <Colin[pi]> spronk: it is yes, but still, provides a lot of features
1611: [23:59:41] * spronk doesn't want to have to pay $50/year for hosting his email
1612: [23:59:46] <Colin[pi]> it's mainly the google admin interface, worst, ux, evar
1613: [23:59:46] <spronk> because let's face it, that's all i use google apps for
1614: [23:59:52] <spronk> mm
1615: [23:59:55] <Colin[pi]> spronk: haha yeah

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