#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 14 August 2015

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1: [00:00:32] <irogue> lol
2: [00:00:35] <Colin[pi]> actual quote: "Higher income people pay the most fuel tax, because poor people don't own cars or don't drive very far."
3: [00:00:46] <Colin[pi]> what a fucking bellend
4: [00:00:51] <irogue> "Bennett has also been criticised by opponents for a perceived hypocritical approach with regards to her attacks on beneficiaries. This specifically relates to her having relied on state support throughout her adult life to enable education and development of her career, only to remove the ability of solo parents to do the same through her removal of the Training Initiative Allowance.
5: [00:00:52] <irogue> More generally, Bennett has often been criticised for policies such as requiring solo parents to enter the workforce when their children turn five, when this policy would have made her own education impossible."
6: [00:02:03] <Colin[pi]> irogue: she a baby boomer?
7: [00:02:43] <irogue> not quite, born 69
8: [00:02:49] <Colin[pi]> close enough :P
9: [00:03:57] <Colin[pi]> irogue: love this video about our treasurer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kGhZAdx18
10: [00:07:17] <Hailwood> Hey guys, Is there a nice way to setup a management interface for a has_one?
11: [00:08:01] <RyanPotter> Hailwood: example?
12: [00:08:11] <Hailwood> Basically I have a VideoGallery has_many Video | Video has_one Page, but I also have Article has_one Video
13: [00:08:24] <Hailwood> So I need a way to manage the video on the article
14: [00:09:14] <Hailwood> the has_many is easy due to gridfield
15: [00:11:48] <PenguinMan98> sortable gridfield = <3
16: [00:12:03] <DanaeNZ> GridFieldOrderableRows? :D
17: [00:12:04] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah
18: [00:12:15] <antmas> over here international students had to pay exactly double
19: [00:12:20] <PenguinMan98> The drag and drop one
20: [00:13:15] <Colin[pi]> antmas: big cash cow for the unis here :D
21: [00:13:19] <RyanPotter> My drag and drop makes me happy: http://i.imgur.com/hZSdLZO.gifv
22: [00:13:27] <Colin[pi]> they advertise/promote profusely in Asian countries
23: [00:13:58] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: now fix the SiteTree dnd
24: [00:14:11] <pinc_> antmas: I thought it was that we payed half?
25: [00:16:21] <Stomach> RyanPotter open sauuuce
26: [00:16:31] <Stomach> DanaeNZ hit him until he open sources it
27: [00:17:27] * spronk quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
28: [00:17:42] <antmas> pinc_: maybe?
29: [00:21:57] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: open souce what?
30: [00:26:19] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: he want dat drag-n-drop thang
31: [00:26:20] <veb> antmas: wut??
32: [00:26:39] <DanaeNZ> orderablerows? I think that’s just part of gridfieldextensions?
33: [00:27:24] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: is he using a GF? looks way different
34: [00:27:29] <Stomach> http://i.imgur.com/hZSdLZO.gifv
35: [00:27:30] <Stomach> that
36: [00:27:38] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: He’ss talking about site builder.
37: [00:27:43] <DanaeNZ> oh right
38: [00:27:56] <RyanPotter> he thirsty.
39: [00:27:56] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: that would have been a great place to put chicken butt
40: [00:27:59] <DanaeNZ> I’m disappointed
41: [00:28:18] <Stomach> :P
42: [00:29:19] <Colin[pi]> is that all you people think of when you see Stomach now?
43: [00:29:22] <Colin[pi]> chickenbutt?
44: [00:29:27] <Stomach> i win
45: [00:29:27] <Colin[pi]> that's going to be his legacy?
46: [00:29:55] <Stomach> :D
47: [00:30:06] <antmas> I mean, if he's happy with it?
48: [00:30:45] <antmas> fuuuuuu I get al the way down to LDAP Authentication sucess and then it fails :|
49: [00:30:54] <antmas> *flip table ascii*
50: [00:31:04] <Colin[pi]> antmas: they should have animated tombstones by the time Stomach goes, he should play chickenbutt on permanent loop
51: [00:31:14] <DanaeNZ> Colin[pi]: bahahhaa
52: [00:31:26] <antmas> lol forever chickenbutt
53: [00:31:43] <Colin[pi]> "push here to see a message from Stomach" *click* "God dammit...."
54: [00:32:32] <antmas> Stomach - some year to 2015 - loved by all - excellent coder - connoisseur of chicken in a can.
55: [00:32:54] <Stomach> :D
56: [00:33:08] <Stomach> I'm glad you think I'm an excellent coder
57: [00:33:08] <antmas> not implying your gonna die this year or anything XD
58: [00:33:09] <Stomach> thats nice
59: [00:33:35] <Colin[pi]> yeah I was like... wtf 2015? that's not cool antmas
60: [00:33:36] <Colin[pi]> :P
61: [00:33:44] <antmas> :O
62: [00:33:48] <antmas> I'm soz
63: [00:33:50] <antmas> Stomach: <3
64: [00:33:59] <chocolatemoose> his plot has been foiled
65: [00:34:06] <Colin[pi]> antmas: oh he is going to chickenbutt you REAL good now
66: [00:34:25] * UncleChe_ quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
67: [00:35:02] <antmas> Colin[pi]: no dice, I've prepared my magnets http://i.imgur.com/vi928S8.gif
68: [00:35:22] * Colin[pi] is suspicious of clicking
69: [00:35:43] <antmas> :P
70: [00:35:51] <Colin[pi]> clicks anyway, is pleasantly surprised
71: [00:35:54] <antmas> it's a mystery link
72: [00:39:40] * nyeholt has joined #silverstripe
73: [00:48:05] <Stomach> afternoon marcus :)
74: [00:50:41] <nyeholt> Howdy :)
75: [00:51:14] * glenn-bautista quit (Quit: Leaving.)
76: [00:51:18] <nyeholt> Have finally remembered to get an irc client installed again
77: [00:51:32] * pinc_ quit (Remote host closed the connection)
78: [00:52:33] <antmas> so no one using external authentication here?
79: [00:52:41] <antmas> this thing is driving me nuts :|
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81: [00:56:26] <Stomach> its good to have an australian injection in here :D Colin[pi] will have you in good hands
82: [00:59:27] <antmas> Colin[pi]: is a pretty col guy and doesn't afraid of anything
83: [01:02:00] <Colin[pi]> what
84: [01:02:48] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
85: [01:03:42] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
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88: [01:09:31] * wes_ is now known as mfi-wes
89: [01:11:22] <mfi-wes> hello, silverstripe folks. i'd never heard of silverstripe until today -- seems interesting for a web dev coming from a php background. i learned of it from using a chrome plugin that shows me what stack any given website is using. i've got a problem i was hoping someone here might could help me solve.
90: [01:12:25] <zippy> fire away
91: [01:12:25] <mfi-wes> i'm making an app for a company and part of it includes a document library which is supposed to stay current with what they have on the web. i need json data from a url that looks like this : http://en.aviagen.com/home/TechDocSearchForm?Keywords=&Subjects__ID=&TypeID=&LanguageID=1&ResourceGenerations__ID=&Tags__ID=&PageStyle=Corporate&action_doTechDocSearch=Search
92: [01:12:54] <zippy> tell me more
93: [01:13:17] <mfi-wes> is there a built-in way to get results of an "action"... like a restful api or anything like it?
94: [01:13:45] <zippy> Sky has confirmed to ONE News today that they have failed to secure the television rights for the opening match in Durban.
95: [01:13:49] <zippy> man skytv is rubbish eh
96: [01:13:55] <mfi-wes> their devs don't seem to know how to provide me with this, but their management wants the app to stay current so i'm trying to help them figure out how to provide us with this info
97: [01:14:26] <zippy> mfi-wes: so, there is a silverstripe website, and you want it to return json for you?
98: [01:14:32] <zippy> or in your website? who, what?
99: [01:15:08] * Phlunk3 quit (Remote host closed the connection)
100: [01:15:17] <mfi-wes> that url i posted above... i need that data that they list and paginate.. but in json form.
101: [01:15:34] <mfi-wes> they won't let me touch their web side at all so i need to know what to tell their web guys
102: [01:15:53] <mfi-wes> or xml, whatever. doesn't have to be json
103: [01:16:29] <zippy> ask them to return in as json?
104: [01:17:49] <mfi-wes> i was hoping maybe there was some automagic way they didn't know of.. a url parameter or something that was just inherent in the CMS
105: [01:17:58] <chocolatemoose> nope
106: [01:18:07] <mfi-wes> because they dont seem to be too keen on helping me with this endeavour
107: [01:18:16] <chocolatemoose> unless they have a rest module installed
108: [01:18:24] <mfi-wes> told me to use an RSS feed when doesn't come close to solving the issue
109: [01:19:00] <mfi-wes> anyone ever tried this: https://github.com/nyeholt/silverstripe-webservices ?
110: [01:20:22] <chocolatemoose> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-restfulserver this is an option too, CWP uses it
111: [01:21:42] <mfi-wes> thank you; i'll suggest it
112: [01:23:58] <irogue> [13:13] <zippy> man skytv is rubbish eh
113: [01:24:05] <irogue> yeeeeep
114: [01:24:10] <irogue> can't wait for them to die
115: [01:24:11] <zippy> I don't pay for it anymore since May..
116: [01:24:53] * DimiStripe quit (Quit: DimiStripe)
117: [01:25:18] <helenclarko> wish there was a competing network to skytv.
118: [01:25:36] <helenclarko> They have a monopoly.
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120: [01:26:46] <Colin[pi]> I cant wait for foxtel to die here
121: [01:26:55] * spronk has joined #silverstripe
122: [01:28:21] <helenclarko> Still cant believe sky go doesnt work outside of New Zealand. What the hell is the point in that?
123: [01:29:29] * Tanger has joined #silverstripe
124: [01:29:49] <spronk> lool
125: [01:29:53] <spronk> content rights
126: [01:29:55] <spronk> sigh
127: [01:30:05] <spronk> such restrictions need to be illegal
128: [01:30:10] <Colin[pi]> who owns that company? is it Murdoch?
129: [01:30:11] <spronk> but tppa will probably make them strongly enforcable :()
130: [01:30:17] <helenclarko> Argh, you've got me started on skytv issues. I'm going to be shitty for the rest of the afternoon haha.
131: [01:30:23] <spronk> lulz
132: [01:30:28] * spronk has the half season pass for f1 on skygo
133: [01:30:41] <spronk> quality is good
134: [01:30:41] <spronk> but
135: [01:30:47] <spronk> was a bit spensive, and, no fucking after-race stuff :@
136: [01:31:02] <helenclarko> lame.
137: [01:31:23] <Colin[pi]> exclusive sport will be the only reason to have pay tv soon
138: [01:31:42] <spronk> mm
139: [01:31:44] <spronk> pretty much
140: [01:31:44] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], Isn't it already like that.
141: [01:31:49] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: yeah
142: [01:31:58] <Colin[pi]> Murdoch owns foxtel in AU
143: [01:32:03] * veb quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
144: [01:32:08] <Colin[pi]> he is losing a boatload of money from his dying newspapers
145: [01:32:18] <Colin[pi]> and also a crapload now from his paytv since Netflix started
146: [01:32:43] <Colin[pi]> and he was the one that met with Abbott the day before they released their shitty watered down broadband policy
147: [01:32:44] <zippy> we don't even watch freeview anymore..
148: [01:33:06] <RyanPotter> I have freeview, it’s called thepiratebay
149: [01:33:10] <zippy> hahaha
150: [01:33:15] <Colin[pi]> <3 my VPN :D
151: [01:33:16] <zippy> kick ass torrents yo
152: [01:33:25] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], If I could pay for only sport, I would.
153: [01:33:31] <zippy> ^
154: [01:33:37] <Colin[pi]> lol dem extras
155: [01:33:39] <Colin[pi]> shitty extras
156: [01:34:04] <zippy> Colin[pi]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0sAVtOt2wA :)
157: [01:34:31] <Colin[pi]> zippy: rofl
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159: [01:34:36] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], You need a base package before you can even think about getting any damn sport!
160: [01:35:05] <antmas> helenclarko: you can use FanPass for 3 types of sport :P
161: [01:35:16] <irogue> Colin[pi]: murdoch owned sky nz until recently, not anymore tho
162: [01:35:20] <irogue> [13:24] <helenclarko> wish there was a competing network to skytv.
163: [01:35:21] <antmas> $180 per year for F1 :P
164: [01:35:30] <irogue> freeview are starting a paid tv service
165: [01:36:13] <zippy> that clip is pretty good
166: [01:36:17] <zippy> sky to a t eh
167: [01:36:26] <Colin[pi]> and foxtel au
168: [01:36:31] <Colin[pi]> same business model
169: [01:36:31] <RyanPotter> antmas: so full of burgerfuel
170: [01:36:35] <Colin[pi]> screw the customer and rub nipples
171: [01:36:44] <antmas> RyanPotter: :|
172: [01:36:48] <Colin[pi]> :|
173: [01:36:59] <DanaeNZ> mmmm burgerfuel
174: [01:37:01] <Colin[pi]> shiny babyish harrier GO
175: [01:37:06] <spronk> fucking burgerfuel
176: [01:37:08] <spronk> and their fucking new shakes
177: [01:37:14] <RyanPotter> antmas: :)
178: [01:37:19] <helenclarko> irogue, Exciting, as long as it isn't the igloo model (Just buy from sky).
179: [01:37:25] <Colin[pi]> http://www.gfycat.com/BabyishShinyHarrier
180: [01:37:27] <Colin[pi]> I was close
181: [01:37:38] <antmas> lol
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183: [01:37:52] <irogue> helenclarko: nah, but it is streaming based, so we'll see how well they pull it off...
184: [01:38:10] <irogue> its pay-per-view rather than subscription, pay for individual things
185: [01:38:36] <antmas> is hamishcampbell a user in here?
186: [01:38:39] * mfi-wes quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
187: [01:38:49] <helenclarko> irogue, igloo tried that, but the price per item was stupidly high.
188: [01:38:55] <irogue> freeview doing the technical stuff but the actual content will be provided by TVNZ, Mediaworks etc. - they'll just say "we have rights to this thing and want people to pay for it" and it'll show up in your Freeview EPG and give you the option to buy it
189: [01:39:02] <irogue> helenclarko: yeah but Igloo is SKY, so no surprise there
190: [01:39:25] <irogue> they don't want per-item PPV cos it takes people away from paying the $70/mo subscriptions
191: [01:39:27] <helenclarko> irogue, True.
192: [01:39:39] <RyanPotter> antmas: updated BP http://webdough.co.nz/~boilerpl/
193: [01:40:05] <antmas> RyanPotter: no bp, only external auth now
194: [01:40:07] <antmas> shhh
195: [01:40:13] * antmas rubs (.)(.)
196: [01:40:20] <RyanPotter> antmas: external auth?
197: [01:40:28] <antmas> RyanPotter: mm
198: [01:40:32] <antmas> having issues
199: [01:40:34] <antmas> :|
200: [01:40:53] <RyanPotter> antmas: Did you give it a look? New design.
201: [01:41:54] <antmas> RyanPotter: ...
202: [01:41:54] <Colin[pi]> god dammit
203: [01:41:56] * pinc_ quit ()
204: [01:42:06] <RyanPotter> huehuehue
205: [01:42:36] <RyanPotter> Okay, need to take that down before my boss shows it in a meeting.
206: [01:42:48] <antmas> lol
207: [01:43:28] <RyanPotter> It’s why I had to stop making sexy wallpapers my placeholder images.
208: [01:43:45] <antmas> I remember that
209: [01:43:48] <antmas> boss found it?
210: [01:44:05] <Colin[pi]> he demoed it in a meeting with sexy pics?
211: [01:44:24] <RyanPotter> Lol, yeah.
212: [01:44:29] <Colin[pi]> top kek
213: [01:44:30] <RyanPotter> Was pretty awkward.
214: [01:45:04] <zippy> lol
215: [01:46:12] <Colin[pi]> "so if you'll just observe the demo on the projector..." "IS DAT SUM TITTIES?"
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217: [01:54:13] * helenclarko rubs nipples.
218: [01:56:07] <zippy> Colin[pi]: that is where you play it cool. "Our research has shown that by including tits on your website....."
219: [01:56:28] <spronk> http://watchersonthewall.com/the-tower-of-joy-confirmed-and-more-new-details-about-a-key-role-involved/
220: [01:56:28] <spronk> omg
221: [01:56:29] <spronk> JON SNOW
222: [01:56:36] <spronk> HE LIVE
223: [01:56:57] <DanaeNZ> #spoileralert
224: [01:57:08] <zippy> never watched it
225: [01:57:11] * DanaeNZ doesn’t even watch gay of thrones
226: [01:57:17] <DanaeNZ> game*
227: [01:57:20] <zippy> lol
228: [01:57:21] <zippy> sure
229: [01:57:27] <DanaeNZ> ;) ;) ;) ;)
230: [01:57:30] <spronk> GAME OF THRONES IS AWESOEM
231: [01:57:38] <DanaeNZ> prolly is ya
232: [01:57:40] <spronk> I initially dismissed it because it was all medieval and shit
233: [01:57:48] <DanaeNZ> i love medieval shit
234: [01:57:49] <spronk> but then I watched it for a while and... hooked.
235: [01:57:50] <zippy> and then there was incest and..?
236: [01:57:54] <DanaeNZ> ????
237: [01:57:54] <spronk> so many boobs.
238: [01:57:55] <Colin[pi]> I never got past the first season due to my gf falling asleep during it
239: [01:57:55] <DanaeNZ> profit
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241: [01:58:05] <spronk> Colin[pi] watch it in secret
242: [01:58:06] <spronk> :>
243: [01:58:09] <Colin[pi]> ;)
244: [01:58:13] <DanaeNZ> ;) ;) ;)
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246: [01:58:15] <Colin[pi]> they haz on Netflix?
247: [01:58:20] <zippy> Colin[pi]: you mean you were more like "I could be playing ED then watching this..."
248: [01:58:26] <Colin[pi]> zippy: lol true
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250: [01:59:26] <zippy> Colin[pi]: dude, I am swimming in tasks here, from different people. How do you stay on top and manage work flow
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252: [01:59:40] <antmas> zippy: stop saying Yes :P
253: [01:59:48] <zippy> ... no
254: [01:59:49] <zippy> :P
255: [01:59:52] <LimRes> Howdy SS Peeps
256: [01:59:54] <zippy> I am a people pleaser :)
257: [02:00:15] <antmas> zippy: did you get that from your mum?
258: [02:00:16] <antmas> :P
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260: [02:00:29] <zippy> yeap, thats how I came to be!
261: [02:00:43] <antmas> XD
262: [02:01:05] <LimRes> RyanPotter: Hey Ryan thanks again for your help on the Entwine yesterday. Any clue what would stop it from working it in live environment (it's loading and I can get a console message out, but no onmatch firing)
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265: [02:03:09] <zippy> LimRes: in live scripts get combined
266: [02:03:51] <LimRes> hi Zippy,
267: [02:04:06] <LimRes> actually, I just checked and the yaml is set to dev
268: [02:04:44] <LimRes> so even that is the same between local and remote
269: [02:07:31] <RyanPotter> zippy: they shouldn’t get combined.
270: [02:07:36] <RyanPotter> I don’t think.
271: [02:07:59] <RyanPotter> zippy: Mine don’t using requirements.
272: [02:08:04] <LimRes> ah my _config.php is overriding the environment to live
273: [02:08:13] <DanaeNZ> if you use CombinedFiles it will only combine on live
274: [02:08:13] <LimRes> I can see the source as separate
275: [02:08:31] <LimRes> unless combinedfiles is standard, I am not
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277: [02:10:15] <RyanPotter> You shouldn’t be using combined_files for your entwine biz
278: [02:11:38] <LimRes> Ok, so for whatever reason, setting the environment live in the _config.php breaks the onmatch event?!
279: [02:13:00] <LimRes> In fact, it also breaks when setting environment to Live via the yml
280: [02:13:06] <LimRes> How are those related?
281: [02:13:22] <LimRes> (Glad to discover this before we flip over to live :)
282: [02:16:36] <RyanPotter> And the JS is still the same between states?
283: [02:17:39] <LimRes> I think it was, just making sure my configs match
284: [02:20:25] <spronk> woah
285: [02:20:29] <spronk> you guys seen that tianjin splosion?
286: [02:20:44] <antmas> spronk: yup
287: [02:20:48] <antmas> we talked about it earlier
288: [02:21:22] <LimRes> RyanPotter: ok, configs match and I see the same script loading in both cases
289: [02:21:31] <RyanPotter> LimRes: Hmm.
290: [02:21:41] <RyanPotter> Paste your js function?
291: [02:21:43] <LimRes> but setting environment to Live causes no onmatch to fire :P
292: [02:21:52] <LimRes> The elements are all identical
293: [02:22:00] <RyanPotter> LimRes !paste
294: [02:22:09] <LimRes> ie, I am entwining an element that exists
295: [02:22:09] <RyanPotter> LimRes !help
296: [02:22:17] <RyanPotter> ffs, what’s the code for ss-helper
297: [02:22:32] <RyanPotter> !paste LimRes
298: [02:22:32] <ss-helper> LimRes: Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
299: [02:22:35] <RyanPotter> THERE WE GO
300: [02:22:39] <antmas> :P
301: [02:23:01] <LimRes> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/55cd50fddcfb5
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303: [02:23:22] <LimRes> Yup sorry, just slow connection here at client site
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306: [02:24:44] <zippy> RyanPotter: lol
307: [02:24:44] <LimRes> If I log a message outside of the entwine, it shows up
308: [02:24:57] <zippy> ss-helper laughts at you.
309: [02:25:19] <LimRes> !rickroll RyanPotter
310: [02:25:28] <LimRes> what no helper for that?!
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312: [02:25:49] <RyanPotter> does [name=Type] actually exist?
313: [02:25:52] <irogue> !chickenbutt RyanPotter
314: [02:26:00] <RyanPotter> have you tried [name="Type”]
315: [02:26:00] <zippy> haha
316: [02:26:14] * irogue deletes another wad of spam from ssorg forums
317: [02:26:22] <spronk> lol
318: [02:26:38] <zippy> whats the chicken but link
319: [02:26:52] <ss23> not knowing chickenbut by heart is a bannable offense in here, zippy
320: [02:26:56] <zippy> :P
321: [02:26:59] <antmas> lol
322: [02:27:23] <RyanPotter> LimRes: side-note updateFieldVisibility() is bad, and you should feel bad.
323: [02:27:46] * veb quit (Client Quit)
324: [02:27:49] <LimRes> <hangs head>
325: [02:28:24] <LimRes> wasn't going to leave that there, but in my defense it works
326: [02:28:54] <RyanPotter> You need to get your DRY on, son.
327: [02:29:36] <RyanPotter> http://shamenun.com/
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329: [02:30:45] <LimRes> it was wetter when I had two copies of all the code inside updateFieldVisibility :)
330: [02:31:02] <LimRes> but we digress :)
331: [02:31:22] <RyanPotter> LimRes: you should add a data-attr to your fields.
332: [02:31:26] <irogue> hmm, time to wander down to the bakery and see if they still have any pies
333: [02:31:33] <ss23> Fix always does
334: [02:31:34] <RyanPotter> and have the js function toggle them based on that
335: [02:31:38] <ss23> Trishas does too
336: [02:31:48] <ss23> I mean, you're in the middle of Wellington, irogue, I'm 100% sure you can find pies!
337: [02:31:49] <LimRes> i thought that shamenun was giong to be an alias for chickenbutt and I clicked it anyway
338: [02:31:51] <irogue> ss23: i'm at home
339: [02:31:57] <ss23> Oh
340: [02:31:58] <ss23> I take it back
341: [02:31:59] <ss23> sux2bu
342: [02:32:02] <irogue> :P
343: [02:32:13] <LimRes> rather than all that SS ID crap in my jquery?
344: [02:32:23] <LimRes> yeah that would be tidier
345: [02:32:29] <irogue> arobake pies are awesome tho. but if they don't have any i'll have to go to the Mini Mart and suffer a dairy pie
346: [02:32:42] <RyanPotter> LimRes: more extensible too.
347: [02:32:48] <RyanPotter> you don’t have to keep adding to the JS
348: [02:33:04] <LimRes> I have spent too many years in putting out fires to remember what elegant code looks like
349: [02:33:32] <RyanPotter> LimRes: I always pretend like someone’s looking over my shoulder asking me why I’m doing something like that.
350: [02:33:48] <antmas> that sonds so depressing
351: [02:33:57] <antmas> sounds*
352: [02:34:03] <RyanPotter> antmas: Forces me to learn though
353: [02:34:05] <irogue> working at SS and having others peer review my code and go "the fuck is this shit?" has been a great undo of that for me, LimRes
354: [02:34:09] <ss23> Jokes on you, I can easily justify my crappy code 100% of the time
355: [02:34:10] <ss23> o/
356: [02:34:11] <irogue> it happens fairly often :P
357: [02:34:17] <RyanPotter> ss23: lol
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359: [02:35:00] <Tanger> I'm about to punch someone in the face
360: [02:35:15] <ss23> Someone write bad code?
361: [02:35:15] <ss23> :D
362: [02:35:20] <LimRes> Justification: It works, now get out and sell it!
363: [02:35:28] <LimRes> lol
364: [02:35:45] <Stomach> guys quick
365: [02:35:45] <Stomach> https://github.com/avinassh/rockstar
366: [02:35:50] <RyanPotter> LimRes: Worked at plenty of places with that mentality :P
367: [02:35:58] <LimRes> RyanPotter: but as the code is the same in both places, I assume that my WET code is not the probleM?
368: [02:36:33] <RyanPotter> Stomach: lol, holy shit. Genious.
369: [02:36:35] * veb quit (Client Quit)
370: [02:36:37] <RyanPotter> Genius
371: [02:36:51] <RyanPotter> LimRes: I don’t know, man. Sorry :/
372: [02:37:26] <DanaeNZ> rock_it_bro.make_me_a_rockstar()
373: [02:37:28] <DanaeNZ> lkolololol
374: [02:38:31] <LimRes> !rockstar Limres
375: [02:38:36] <LimRes> damn no helper for that either
376: [02:39:24] <DanaeNZ> omg those commit messages
377: [02:39:26] <DanaeNZ> amaze
378: [02:39:43] <DanaeNZ> theGuyWhoCreatedSwift.jpg
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381: [02:47:13] * antmas fixes his external auth error
382: [02:47:17] * antmas is super effective
383: [02:50:11] <RyanPotter> antmas: +1
384: [02:50:58] * antmas should learn to read deprectation errors properly
385: [02:51:10] <antmas> deprecation*
386: [02:52:24] * UncleCheese has joined #silverstripe
387: [02:52:36] * irogue returns with pie
388: [02:52:51] <DanaeNZ> i want pie....
389: [02:52:53] <irogue> unfortunately no steak & cheese or pepper steak, but mince & cheese will do
390: [02:52:59] <DanaeNZ> but i’m kinda too full on burgerfuel
391: [02:53:08] <zippy> mmm peper steak pie be pretty good
392: [02:53:10] <DanaeNZ> oh man west auckland bakeries best bakeries
393: [02:53:20] <DanaeNZ> you could get steak + cheese + pepper + tomato pies
394: [02:53:37] * antmas had a potato top pie for breakfast
395: [02:53:39] <antmas> was good
396: [02:53:55] <RyanPotter> DanaeNZ: Mt Eden bakery = Steak & Cheese, and Baked Beans
397: [02:54:06] <DanaeNZ> my god.
398: [02:54:10] <RyanPotter> Optional potatoe top
399: [02:54:21] <RyanPotter> It’s love, it’s life.
400: [02:54:29] <irogue> wait y'all are on the shore right?
401: [02:54:29] <antmas> who wouldn't go potato top?
402: [02:54:38] <RyanPotter> irogue: I live in Epsom.
403: [02:54:55] <irogue> sorry, by y'all i meant toast
404: [02:55:36] <irogue> best pies i ever had on the shore were at Seaview Meats in Milford
405: [02:55:47] <irogue> which i used to live next door to... whiiiiich was dangerous
406: [02:56:13] <RyanPotter> the shore is for rich kents.
407: [02:56:53] <irogue> i never really fit in there, being a hamilton boy
408: [02:56:58] <irogue> manurewa felt much more like home
409: [02:57:21] <RyanPotter> I lived in rewa for a few years.
410: [02:57:47] * UncleChe_ quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
411: [02:57:55] <irogue> i keep complaining about wellington being expensive and everyones like WTF BUT YOURE FROM AUCKLAND
412: [02:58:25] <RyanPotter> irogue: what’s more expensive down there?
413: [02:58:27] <irogue> wellingtonians forget that when people complain about auckland being expensive they mean central/east
414: [02:58:29] <RyanPotter> Kites for sure, right?
415: [02:58:51] <RyanPotter> I’ve lived everywhere but West.
416: [02:59:02] <irogue> food.
417: [02:59:05] <RyanPotter> Can confirm, central and east are expensive.
418: [02:59:06] <irogue> food is expensive here
419: [02:59:12] <irogue> supermarkets, bakeries, butcheries
420: [02:59:34] <irogue> i just paid $5.10 for a pie
421: [02:59:41] <DanaeNZ> yowza
422: [02:59:46] <RyanPotter> irogue: Yeah, you pay that here too.
423: [02:59:50] <DanaeNZ> what
424: [02:59:55] <antmas> irogue: same here
425: [02:59:59] <irogue> in manurewa theyre still $2 and cream donuts are still $1
426: [03:00:00] <DanaeNZ> maybe at a petrol station
427: [03:00:15] <Tanger> very weird error on a fresh SS install. http://imgur.com/zjse0e8
428: [03:00:16] <RyanPotter> irogue: Nah, rewa is still 3-4 a pie.
429: [03:00:18] <DanaeNZ> Bakery pies are still like $3
430: [03:00:29] <DanaeNZ> and that’s waterview
431: [03:00:31] <irogue> RyanPotter: nah, $2 to $2.60 at the bakery at southmall
432: [03:00:39] <Tanger> Site tree just dissapeared, even with no code files, templates, included js or anything
433: [03:00:42] <RyanPotter> Tanger: Looks like a js file isn’t loading properly.
434: [03:00:45] <irogue> good pies too
435: [03:00:52] <RyanPotter> irogue: yeah, that’s southmall though.
436: [03:00:59] <RyanPotter> I’m talking about generic rewa bakeries.
437: [03:00:59] <irogue> i lived next to southmall :P
438: [03:01:06] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Nice, how fun :P
439: [03:01:12] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Thanks, will look into it
440: [03:01:16] <RyanPotter> Tanger: anything in the console/logs?
441: [03:01:19] <irogue> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4618071/2014-10-14%2019.34.48.jpg
442: [03:02:05] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Nothing whatsoever, just "Use of getPreventDefault() is deprecated" as a JS warning
443: [03:02:09] <RyanPotter> irogue: “yeah, your warrent was $10, but we replaced your entire car, that will be $10,000 pls“
444: [03:02:12] <Tanger> All requests come back too
445: [03:02:13] <Tanger> *200
446: [03:02:27] <RyanPotter> warrant
447: [03:02:39] <irogue> RyanPotter: nah in rewa its more like "here's a wof" "don't you want to look at the car first?" "shhhhh, that'll be $10"
448: [03:02:53] <RyanPotter> irogue: lol, my escort always got those wofs
449: [03:03:09] <RyanPotter> “Don’t you need a cert for that engine?”
450: [03:03:15] <RyanPotter> “naw, dawg. got my warrant”
451: [03:04:08] <irogue> the best mechanic i ever went to wasn't even a mechanic
452: [03:04:17] <Audlex> can i do something like this for a DropdownField?
453: [03:04:18] <Audlex> map('ID', 'Title (MainCategory)')
454: [03:04:33] <Audlex> So it has the Title and in brackets the main categoryu
455: [03:04:51] <zippy> just map('ID', 'Title')
456: [03:04:56] <zippy> since that is the column name
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460: [03:07:03] <irogue> http://auto-sparky.co.nz/home these guys are auto electricians but they were very "oh we might as well take a look at that mechanical thing while you're here"
461: [03:07:10] <irogue> fixed something that 2 other mechanics had failed to find
462: [03:07:24] <Audlex> Yeah but I want to use two column names
463: [03:07:54] <zippy> then you'll have to build it up yourself
464: [03:07:55] <RyanPotter> Audlex: make a method in that model
465: [03:08:01] <RyanPotter> that combines them
466: [03:08:05] <RyanPotter> then call that in the map
467: [03:08:36] <Audlex> duh, good point. cheers RyanPotter
468: [03:08:49] <RyanPotter> Audlex: np
469: [03:09:01] <Audlex> and zippy
470: [03:09:07] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Compared with another site on the same system, the JS is exactly the same
471: [03:09:29] * veb quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
472: [03:09:38] <RyanPotter> Tanger: chown that shiiieeet?
473: [03:09:47] <PenguinMan98> Good gravy
474: [03:10:00] <PenguinMan98> Everybody and their dog feels the need to tell me I code too slow
475: [03:10:07] <PenguinMan98> Even my wife is doing it now
476: [03:10:21] <PenguinMan98> And she doesn't know squat about how long it takes to build stuff
477: [03:10:22] <RyanPotter> PenguinMan98: Trade her in for a new model.
478: [03:10:35] <PenguinMan98> Not possible
479: [03:10:38] <RyanPotter> composer update wife
480: [03:10:40] <PenguinMan98> Nor would I wish to
481: [03:10:43] <PenguinMan98> lol
482: [03:11:15] <PenguinMan98> sudo shut up and let me work
483: [03:12:02] <ss23> zippy you scrub
484: [03:12:03] <ss23> is the bot yours?
485: [03:12:10] <ss23> zippy: Whats the IP of it?
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488: [03:14:02] <ss23> zippy: beeeeeeep
489: [03:14:30] * veb quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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491: [03:15:33] <PenguinMan98> So.. if the form has an error you use $form->addErrorMessage()
492: [03:15:39] <PenguinMan98> What if it succeeds?
493: [03:16:29] <RyanPotter> I use parsley for my front end validation.
494: [03:16:37] <RyanPotter> It’s nice.
495: [03:17:03] <zippy> ss23: hi
496: [03:17:16] <ss23> zippy: whats the ip of ss-helper?
497: [03:17:40] <zippy> why :)
498: [03:17:58] <RyanPotter> ss23: 10.10.10.127
499: [03:18:05] <RyanPotter> IT’S COMING FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING!
500: [03:18:07] <zippy> 555.555.555.111
501: [03:18:27] <zippy> (you can look it up yourself you know...)
502: [03:18:30] <ss23> zippy: cause it seems to be hitting our RSS feeds every 3 seconds or so, while the rss feeds take ~10 seconds to load
503: [03:18:33] * vebvebvebveb quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
504: [03:18:36] <ss23> Which takes it down
505: [03:18:43] <RyanPotter> ss23: lololol
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507: [03:18:54] <zippy> hah
508: [03:18:56] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Permissions were fine. However, I restarted my browser and suddenly it works
509: [03:18:57] <Tanger> yay
510: [03:19:04] <RyanPotter> Tanger: woo
511: [03:19:05] <ss23> yeah
512: [03:19:09] <irogue> every 3 seconds is probably a little more regularly than rss needs to be checked :P
513: [03:19:11] <ss23> zippy: can you change it to every like... 3 mins?
514: [03:19:18] <zippy> it's every 10~
515: [03:19:19] <ss23> 1 min is better than what it is atm now
516: [03:19:23] <zippy> 103.18.56.67
517: [03:19:27] <Tanger> RyanPotter: Thanks for the help man
518: [03:19:34] <ss23> 104.236.168.127 you mean
519: [03:19:36] <zippy> you can just do /whois ss-helper
520: [03:19:36] <ss23> but still
521: [03:19:39] <ss23> yeah
522: [03:19:40] <ss23> I got it
523: [03:19:40] <RyanPotter> Tanger: I didn’t really do anything, but np :)
524: [03:19:41] <zippy> oh yea haha
525: [03:19:44] <ss23> didn't realise it was -x
526: [03:19:53] <Tanger> RyanPotter: You rubber duckied for me :D
527: [03:19:59] <RyanPotter> Tanger: aww yiss
528: [03:20:01] <zippy> ss23: same ip or different ip?
529: [03:20:15] <ss23> zippy: idk, im getting confsued. long story short, can you change it to once a minute? <3
530: [03:20:25] <zippy> ss23: it's 10 minutes
531: [03:20:29] <ss23> ty
532: [03:20:30] <zippy> is that the ip which is hitting the feed?
533: [03:20:35] <zippy> it's always been 10 minutes
534: [03:20:35] <ss23> 104.236.168.127 is the IP, yeha
535: [03:20:38] <zippy> hmm
536: [03:20:38] <ss23> um
537: [03:20:43] <ss23> it's hitting it much sooner than every 10 minutes
538: [03:20:45] <ss23> Can you restart it?
539: [03:20:56] <ss23> The site went down a bit recently and I think it may have queued up the old requests
540: [03:21:00] <ss23> So it's just hammering it as fast as it can
541: [03:21:17] <ss23> it wasn't an issue until the site went down the other day and it's been going hardcore (every few seconds) since then
542: [03:21:18] <irogue> "`104.236.168.127` and http agent `"React/alpha` have hit /community/forums/rss 201 times the last 15 min"
543: [03:21:40] <zippy> sec
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546: [03:22:11] <ss23> ty
547: [03:22:26] <ss23> lets wait and see now :D
548: [03:22:28] <zippy> that better
549: [03:22:30] <ss23> irogue: you checking logs?
550: [03:22:31] <zippy> Z*I?
551: [03:22:51] <irogue> ss23: nah just c+p'd that from #mightyops :P
552: [03:23:19] <zippy> irogue: still hammering or better?
553: [03:24:12] <zippy> don't speak all at once..
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555: [03:24:33] <irogue> i'm not ops i probably don't have access to those logs
556: [03:24:47] <ss23> okay I will check
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558: [03:25:37] <zippy> ss23: i've made it so you can type in !restart and it will restart the bot
559: [03:26:04] * veb_ quit (Client Quit)
560: [03:26:46] <irogue> is that restricted in some way, or can we have a lot of fun with that? :P
561: [03:26:51] <ss23> ty zippy my bae <3
562: [03:27:53] <irogue> yay zippy is no longer DoSing ss.org!
563: [03:27:56] <ss23> zippy: Works now ^.^
564: [03:28:02] <Colin[pi]> bae caught me zippin
565: [03:28:09] <ss23> XD
566: [03:28:21] <zippy> ss23: you were meant to try it, and then I would go. haha just kidding... :(
567: [03:28:27] <ss23> oh
568: [03:28:29] <ss23> !restart
569: [03:28:31] <ss23> :(
570: [03:28:34] <zippy> just kidding, hahaha
571: [03:28:36] <ss23> :P
572: [03:28:41] <zippy> yea that still felt good
573: [03:28:45] <zippy> I will do that though
574: [03:29:02] <zippy> will put it on the list, and also have a look at why it went cray cray
575: [03:29:22] <zippy> >> while the rss feeds take ~10 seconds to load
576: [03:29:25] <zippy> might want to fix that too
577: [03:31:20] <zippy> I think because it was getting; Access denied | www.silverstripe.org used CloudFlare to restrict access it kept trying to retry maybe...
578: [03:31:44] <irogue> that was turned on because of the insane amount of requests :P
579: [03:31:46] <ss23> Yeah, we blocked you in the interest of keeping the site up
580: [03:31:47] <ss23> :P
581: [03:32:05] <zippy> ah, that was like 6am
582: [03:32:37] <irogue> sitemap.xml on a client site took ~90sec to generate
583: [03:32:40] <irogue> as you can imagine, that was bad
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585: [03:34:03] <spronk> bah
586: [03:34:09] * veb_ has joined #silverstripe
587: [03:34:59] * veb quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
588: [03:35:30] <Colin[pi]> irogue: ...
589: [03:35:35] <Colin[pi]> 90 secs?
590: [03:36:25] <zippy> Colin[pi]: yea, under powered host and stuff
591: [03:36:35] <Colin[pi]> ouch
592: [03:36:36] <zippy> irogue: did you guys turn on ipv6 recently?
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595: [03:37:40] <zippy> nop nm
596: [03:38:01] <irogue> zippy: two dedicated servers :P
597: [03:38:21] <zippy> might need more :)
598: [03:39:39] <irogue> buuuuuuuut those servers are managed by IBM, so they run like absolute shite
599: [03:39:58] <spronk> wut?
600: [03:40:03] <spronk> dedis for ss.org?
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602: [03:40:23] <irogue> no, im talking abhout the client site that had 90sec sitemap.xml generation
603: [03:40:28] <zippy> spronk: and client sites from the sound of it
604: [03:40:36] <spronk> yeesh
605: [03:41:14] <irogue> zippy: cloudflare probably auto-provides it
606: [03:41:44] <irogue> (ipv6)
607: [03:42:20] <zippy> chur
608: [03:42:25] <zippy> right boys, im out!
609: [03:42:34] <PenguinMan98> Are you though?
610: [03:42:36] <PenguinMan98> Are you really?
611: [03:42:46] <RyanPotter> zippy: I always suspected.
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613: [03:42:47] * zippy checks
614: [03:42:48] <zippy> yes
615: [03:42:48] <zippy> :D
616: [03:42:58] <zippy> RyanPotter: not in the way you want me sorry
617: [03:43:06] <RyanPotter> zippy: one day zippy.
618: [03:43:07] <RyanPotter> one day.
619: [03:43:10] <irogue> ;)
620: [03:43:13] <Colin[pi]> lol
621: [03:43:24] <irogue> ss.orgy
622: [03:43:52] <spronk> lol
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624: [03:44:09] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
625: [03:44:15] <irogue> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4618071/tumblr_mx7hb0h9Dc1su5d0fo1_500.gif
626: [03:44:22] <Colin[pi]> so not gonna click
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628: [03:46:29] <Colin[pi]> who here uses i18n for their field labels?
629: [03:47:21] <irogue> "Will Smith to make Fresh Prince style show" -- whats the bet his kids will be in it?
630: [03:47:42] <PenguinMan98> who uses i18n at all. I've never had to use it. I've put it into a number of sites but to date they have never ever been used.
631: [03:47:53] <irogue> jaden can spin some deep philosophical questions while willow just sits there whipping her hair back and forth
632: [03:47:59] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: sometimes
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634: [03:48:31] <DanaeNZ> Colin[pi]: usually for modules only
635: [03:48:38] <RyanPotter> PenguinMan98: Makes it easier to change things on the fly without editing core.
636: [03:48:50] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: k, trying to figure out if I should or not :D
637: [03:48:58] <Colin[pi]> I mean, it's not that much extra effort..
638: [03:49:05] <DanaeNZ> yah
639: [03:49:18] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: I just get confused when to use all caps or not.
640: [03:49:34] <RyanPotter> Templates use camel case, and dcontrollers/models use camel case then full caps
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642: [03:49:49] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: the _t() calls?
643: [03:49:53] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: ye
644: [03:50:04] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: mm seems to be 'ClassName.ALLTHEUPPERCASE'
645: [03:50:12] <RyanPotter> _t(‘Foo.BAR’, ‘Foo’)
646: [03:50:12] <Colin[pi]> at least in modules anyway
647: [03:50:24] <RyanPotter> Colin[pi]: yeah, but in templates its all camel case :/
648: [03:50:31] <RyanPotter> WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT?
649: [03:50:33] <Colin[pi]> oh, even the 2nd part?
650: [03:50:36] <RyanPotter> ss23: pls
651: [03:50:55] <ss23> what?
652: [03:50:55] <ss23> WHAT?!
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654: [03:51:05] <ss23> m8 I don't even use silverstripe what's going
655: [03:51:08] <RyanPotter> ss23: is there a meaning for full caps in _t()?
656: [03:51:17] <Colin[pi]> ss23 gives no shits
657: [03:51:18] <Colin[pi]> :D
658: [03:51:19] <RyanPotter> except in templates?
659: [03:51:21] <ss23> Eh
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661: [03:51:32] <ss23> Not sure, but I believe the semantics on _t isn't a SilverStripe thing. a lot of stuff has it
662: [03:51:36] <RyanPotter> _t(‘her.DERP’, ‘foobar’)
663: [03:51:50] <RyanPotter> yeah, but it’s split in templates and models/controllers
664: [03:52:02] <RyanPotter> templates use full camelcase
665: [03:52:04] <ss23> There's like the _ function with gettext, think they define the standfard sematncsi
666: [03:52:06] <ss-helper> Re: Migrate from Wordpress to SilverStripe - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/migrating-a-site-to-silverstripe/show/104409#post404944
667: [03:52:08] <ss23> idk
668: [03:52:10] <ss23> sorry RyanPotter
669: [03:52:15] <RyanPotter> ss23: np :)
670: [03:52:24] <RyanPotter> I’ll just keep using caps in backend, and camel in front
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673: [03:55:10] <irogue> https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/51730/tenant-wants-to-pay-rent-with-eft#comment79614_51730
674: [03:55:24] <irogue> the U.S. fascinates me
675: [03:55:54] <xyphoid> it's amazing eh
676: [03:56:04] <xyphoid> was reading about US house purchasing
677: [03:56:09] <xyphoid> and they use cheques for *that*
678: [03:56:12] <RyanPotter> irogue: I had to make software that scanned cheques, and make a bank deposit from them, because they don’yt trust bank deposits from their employers :/
679: [03:56:19] * veb is now known as vebvebvebveb
680: [03:56:22] <irogue> whereas in the rest of the world if someone asked us to pay by cheque we'd just be like "WTF IS A CHEQUE AND HOW DOES ONE DO IT?"
681: [03:56:32] <RyanPotter> irogue: the correct responce.
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683: [03:57:42] <Colin[pi]> lol cheques
684: [03:57:50] <Colin[pi]> I have a couple of clients that pay with cheque
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686: [03:57:53] <Colin[pi]> annoying as poop
687: [03:58:02] <RyanPotter> I wouldn’t know what to do with a cheque.
688: [03:58:17] <RyanPotter> Beside get angry that I have a cheque.
689: [03:58:23] <Colin[pi]> RyanPotter: the ATM scans them and tells me the total :o
690: [03:58:35] <Colin[pi]> except for the other day when it couldn't understand the writing ;)
691: [03:58:41] <helenclarko> Its like olden day money or something, right?
692: [03:58:46] <Colin[pi]> ATM was like "dafuq is this?"
693: [03:58:47] <irogue> i was asked for a cheque once as proof of my bank account number. but i've never had a chequebook in my life
694: [03:58:51] <xyphoid> 'dont use paypal or google wallet they are insecure, if you want to go down this route, use bitcoin its the safest means of money transfer'
695: [03:58:54] <xyphoid> ahaha
696: [03:58:56] * PenguinMan98 is the token yankee who corrects the spelling to 'check' as it's used in the USA
697: [03:59:05] <RyanPotter> lol
698: [03:59:39] <RyanPotter> check doesn’t mean cheque even in American english.
699: [03:59:46] <irogue> [15:57] <Colin[pi]> I have a couple of clients that pay with cheque
700: [03:59:55] <irogue> i had one, and i wouldn't release anything to them until it cleared
701: [04:00:08] <irogue> which eventually annoyed them enough they switched to paying normally
702: [04:00:29] <Colin[pi]> lol nice
703: [04:01:03] <irogue> itd usually sit in my wallet for a week or so until i happened to be near a bank
704: [04:01:09] <irogue> and then take another week to clear
705: [04:01:19] * Olliepop has joined #silverstripe
706: [04:01:46] <irogue> oh god Olliepop is here, what's completely broken in forums this time? :P
707: [04:02:34] * PenguinMan98 is here too. What isn't broken?
708: [04:03:36] * Colin[pi] is here just for the free breadsticks
709: [04:03:36] <irogue> me, i'm broken
710: [04:03:44] <irogue> being sick on a friday sucks balls, and not in a good way
711: [04:03:51] <Colin[pi]> ;)
712: [04:04:26] <DanaeNZ> Where the fuck are the free breadsticks
713: [04:04:43] * Colin[pi] ate them all
714: [04:04:54] * PenguinMan98 puts breading on his *SHOT*
715: [04:07:18] <DanaeNZ> Colin[pi]: you fucken monster
716: [04:07:24] <Colin[pi]> :C
717: [04:07:26] <DanaeNZ> get out of my house
718: [04:07:35] * Colin[pi] slinks away with head bowed
719: [04:08:05] <DanaeNZ> just realised I’m not even entirely sure what a breadstick /is/
720: [04:08:10] <DanaeNZ> like, minni baguette?
721: [04:08:13] <DanaeNZ> mini*
722: [04:08:23] <irogue> i assume so
723: [04:08:27] <Colin[pi]> http://www.sweetgirlconfections.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/breadsticks-n-scones-069.jpg
724: [04:08:40] <DanaeNZ> “sweetgirlconfections.com"
725: [04:08:49] <irogue> dangerous click
726: [04:08:49] <Colin[pi]> first image I saw on google :P
727: [04:08:50] <irogue> :P
728: [04:08:50] <PenguinMan98> you linked to a wordress?
729: [04:08:53] <DanaeNZ> my god I’ve never had those on my life
730: [04:08:55] <PenguinMan98> wordpress?
731: [04:09:13] <irogue> nope, never seen em before
732: [04:09:32] <DanaeNZ> I feel like I’m missing out on something wonderful
733: [04:09:39] <LimRes> mmmm breadsticks
734: [04:09:41] <irogue> do they exist in oz Colin[pi]?
735: [04:09:52] <irogue> i've only ever heard the term in american tv/movies
736: [04:09:54] <PenguinMan98> I'm pretty sure it's an italian thing but it's huge in the USA
737: [04:09:55] <LimRes> reminds me of my Italian Grandfather
738: [04:10:09] <DanaeNZ> I’ve heard it from that copypasta
739: [04:10:16] <Colin[pi]> irogue: yeah they have them here
740: [04:10:22] <DanaeNZ> > What do you think of *topic*?
741: [04:10:27] <DanaeNZ> > *bad opinion*
742: [04:10:40] <DanaeNZ> > Excuse me I have to leave *shoves breadsticks in purse*
743: [04:10:42] <LimRes> Not so common in the US anymore, but used to be very popular
744: [04:10:50] <LimRes> Grissini
745: [04:10:55] <LimRes> is what the package would say
746: [04:11:14] <LimRes> you might think its like a long skinny crouton
747: [04:11:22] <LimRes> but it's much nicer
748: [04:11:29] <DanaeNZ> looks like a long pretzel
749: [04:11:43] <DanaeNZ> omg that’s what she said
750: [04:11:48] <Colin[pi]> ;)
751: [04:11:48] <DanaeNZ> she said all of the above
752: [04:11:49] <LimRes> lol
753: [04:12:07] <Colin[pi]> is that a breadstick in your pocket or are y.... oh I see it's a breadstick
754: [04:12:09] <Colin[pi]> carry on'
755: [04:12:38] <LimRes> on that note, have a great weekend everybody
756: [04:12:49] <PenguinMan98> <3 Gnite everybody!
757: [04:12:53] <PenguinMan98> lol
758: [04:12:57] <Colin[pi]> lol nite
759: [04:13:08] <LimRes> RyanPotter: btw that Live environment thing was a "fleeting" issue
760: [04:13:14] <Olliepop> irogue look out for my next PR with 100 "fix postgre" commits
761: [04:13:22] <PenguinMan98> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xmAC9Qu908
762: [04:13:34] <LimRes> could leave the editing of the item and come back and it was fine
763: [04:13:52] <LimRes> thx for all the fish
764: [04:13:53] <irogue> Olliepop: haha
765: [04:14:16] <irogue> i probably should have squashed those but cbf :P
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767: [04:18:38] <Colin[pi]> Friday afternoon, my brain has frozen... I need a reboot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUaSQBHgH-0
768: [04:25:11] <antmas> so no beer recommendations? off to super market soon
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772: [04:26:43] <irogue> antmas: my beer recommendation is cider
773: [04:27:08] <DanaeNZ> https://youtu.be/cZTdZZj417g
774: [04:27:16] <DanaeNZ> drunk mould casting
775: [04:27:18] <DanaeNZ> not even once
776: [04:27:27] <DanaeNZ> irogue: +1
777: [04:27:36] <Colin[pi]> antmas: my beer recommendation is whiskey
778: [04:27:46] <antmas> you guys are so helpful
779: [04:27:48] <antmas> :P
780: [04:28:28] <antmas> I actually kinda have a craving for mead
781: [04:28:36] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I quite like this, but not sure if you have it over there + prolly have something better :P https://www.liquorbarons.com.au/Root/Images/Beer/ProductMain/14851_productMain_1.jpg
782: [04:28:47] * antmas has been playing too much Witcher
783: [04:29:10] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I think we do have that here
784: [04:29:22] <antmas> and funnily enough, another Canberrian mentioned that one :P
785: [04:29:29] <Colin[pi]> it's gooood
786: [04:29:34] <Colin[pi]> has to be in a glass though
787: [04:29:39] <antmas> Guilty!
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790: [04:30:13] <antmas> Colin[pi]: like most booze
791: [04:31:25] <Colin[pi]> what should I cook for dinner?
792: [04:31:52] <antmas> Colin[pi]: fish
793: [04:32:01] <Colin[pi]> hmm
794: [04:32:05] <Colin[pi]> maybe salmon
795: [04:32:14] <helenclarko> antmas, FISH!?! Mac n Cheese
796: [04:32:31] <Colin[pi]> helenclarko: what are you, my 8yo son?
797: [04:32:36] <helenclarko> Colin[pi], Mac Cheese!
798: [04:32:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: had some gurnard last night, was amazing
799: [04:32:48] <antmas> expensive as fuck though
800: [04:32:50] <helenclarko> MAC n CHEESE!!!
801: [04:32:50] <Colin[pi]> gurnard! now that's a fish I haven't had in a long time
802: [04:33:16] <helenclarko> MAC CHEESE!!!
803: [04:33:16] * antmas cheated and put Coat n' Cook on it :P
804: [04:33:21] <antmas> tastes awesome though
805: [04:33:51] <helenclarko> mac n cheese :(
806: [04:33:56] <antmas> right, off to buy whiskey flavoured cider bourbon
807: [04:34:00] <antmas> o/
808: [04:34:01] <Colin[pi]> LOL
809: [04:34:03] <Colin[pi]> o/
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811: [04:37:26] <spronk> http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/71110825/Gigantic-Tianjin-blasts-leave-wasteland
812: [04:37:27] <spronk> fuuuuuuck
813: [04:37:54] <helenclarko> http://allrecipes.com/recipes/main-dish/pasta/macaroni-and-cheese/
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816: [04:40:37] <irogue> spronk: you see this video of it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7FXeaahRsg
817: [04:40:46] <spronk> yeah
818: [04:40:47] <spronk> insane
819: [04:41:14] <ss23> prettylights
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821: [04:41:52] <PenguinMan98> It's scary shit
822: [04:44:56] <Hailwood> I Swear all the silverstripe shopping carts have been abadoned
823: [04:45:01] <Hailwood> *abandoned
824: [04:45:50] <PenguinMan98> <% if !$Hidden %> where $Hidden is a checkbox property of the relevant class. Will this work?
825: [04:46:03] <irogue> Hailwood: ss-shop is the most actively developed ecommerce system
826: [04:46:45] <PenguinMan98> My IDE flips out when I put the ! in there
827: [04:46:50] <Hailwood> irogue, Yeah that's what I've used for the last couple of projects, but even that's relatively silent
828: [04:48:19] <PenguinMan98> <% if $Hidden %><% else %> works
829: [04:48:24] <PenguinMan98> But I feel so dirty
830: [04:48:44] <DanaeNZ> <% if not $Hidden %>
831: [04:48:51] <PenguinMan98> ty
832: [04:49:28] <DanaeNZ> PenguinMan98: it’s all here: https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.1/developer_guides/templates/syntax/#conditional-logic
833: [04:50:13] <PenguinMan98> I like how it reads more like a sentence
834: [04:50:16] <irogue> Hailwood: silent isn't necessarily a bad thing :P
835: [04:50:25] <PenguinMan98> I don't like how I have to re-learn everything
836: [04:50:37] * PenguinMan98 has some cheese with his whine
837: [04:51:21] <Hailwood> irogue, Normally I would agree with you, however it makes it difficult to tell if any of the modules for ss-shop actually still work!
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846: [05:04:21] <Guest47273> hey all. i'm having trouble writing to a datamodel from a getter in an instance of DataModel:
847: [05:05:15] <Guest47273> https://gist.github.com/jacobbuck/cdecd4ee81306b7a0aa7
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849: [05:05:55] <Guest47273> get a very usefull: [Notice] Undefined property: MyClass::$Color :\
850: [05:07:14] <ss-helper> Re: [Solved] Ajax contact form - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/form-questions/show/104264#post404945
851: [05:07:24] <irogue> Guest47273: it doesn't look like you're extending DataObject?
852: [05:09:32] <Guest47273> that's just psuedo code
853: [05:09:46] <Guest47273> I'm actually extending off Image
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858: [05:16:29] <irogue> JacobBuck: other than that it looks ok, though I've never used getField() before
859: [05:16:54] <irogue> maybe try just using $this->Color there? and have you done a /dev/build since adding the Color?
860: [05:17:12] <micmania1> JacobBuck: have you flushed?
861: [05:18:05] <irogue> micmania1: we need an updated version of willr's poster that says flush=all
862: [05:19:13] <micmania1> I’m not micmania1. I’m an automated bot :D
863: [05:19:23] <micmania1> irogue: have you flushed?
864: [05:20:22] <irogue> micmania1: yep, and scrubbed, and squirted air freshener
865: [05:20:43] <micmania1> irogue: Have you ran a dev/build?
866: [05:20:50] <micmania1> irogue: flush=all?
867: [05:24:37] <ss23> are you sure it's plugged in?
868: [05:28:57] <JacobBuck> yeah I have flushed
869: [05:29:03] <JacobBuck> and dev/build'ed
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876: [05:52:20] <ss-helper> Re: Outdated browser - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104376#post404947
877: [05:52:20] <ss-helper> Re: Question about Searchable Field - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104372#post404946
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904: [07:43:00] <aditya_> i am trying to drag childern pages in cms but they are just showing red cross and not moving any other place
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906: [07:47:15] <Eliseth> Morning
907: [07:48:58] <Eliseth> I need to have a custom menu array that replaces the $menu(2) in my template. What I need is all pages from $menu(2) that have a specific parameter checked and have them in a seperate array so I can check in my template if it contains any pages at all
908: [07:49:14] <Eliseth> And if so loop through them like I would do with a normal $menu(2)
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910: [07:50:59] <irogue> Eliseth: you could create a method which calls getMenu() and filters what it returns
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912: [07:53:30] <irogue> Eliseth: something like http://sspaste.com/paste/show/55cd9e675f196
913: [07:53:41] <swaiba> morning Eliseth
914: [07:54:42] <swaiba> I'm not sure if this will help - https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager - but I've heard it recmoneded in similar situations
915: [07:55:47] <Eliseth> swaiba: Thanks, I looked at that but my situation is slightly more complex :)
916: [07:56:16] <Eliseth> irogue: Will look into that and let you know, thanks for the tips
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920: [08:01:01] <Eliseth> irogue: That was exactly what I needed, thanks!
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931: [08:52:28] <Alboes> hi. adding a Vimeo video via insert media in the editor is not working anymore: it replaces the for vimeo required https to http
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933: [09:05:36] <swaiba> Alboes that sounds like an issue to be raised in the silverstripe/cms module
934: [09:10:14] <Alboes> i see, thanks
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939: [09:38:04] <lerni_> å,bk
940: [09:40:29] <lerni_> Alboes: It doesn't happens here - what Version and which browser?
941: [10:00:41] <Alboes> ss version 3.1.12 browser; tried in Chrome and Safari latest versions
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948: [10:13:31] <Alboes> and ss 3.1.13 the same behaviour
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950: [10:29:07] <Alboes> lerni_: in the demo at the silverstripe website it works well. In my environments it doesn't recognise the type, see this screenshot: http://snag.gy/0hlss.jpg
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952: [10:30:44] <lerni_> Alboes: but your env is on a public net?
953: [10:31:07] <Alboes> yes it is
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955: [10:43:38] <lerni_> can you check if your server can successfully make the request to vimeo?
956: [10:46:45] <Alboes> yes, i can ping vimeo.com
957: [11:02:06] <lerni_> Albos does curl per https work?
958: [11:02:25] <lerni_> Alboes: ^
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964: [11:13:40] <Alboes> i will check that. But now I have to go out, thanks for help so far!
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973: [12:22:55] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/customising-the-cms/show/104418
974: [12:22:56] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/hosting-requirements/show/104417
975: [12:22:56] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/all-other-modules/show/104416
976: [12:22:56] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104415
977: [12:22:56] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/104414
978: [12:26:05] <swaiba> Anyone want to buy turtles?
979: [12:33:07] <swaiba> too late, those wishing to buy turtles will have to contact their local pet store
980: [12:43:46] <spronk> lol
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982: [12:51:25] <wmk> swaiba, if you have a cup of soup for me...
983: [12:52:08] <swaiba> wmk !
984: [12:52:19] <swaiba> I hope the soup was for sharing with them...
985: [12:52:38] <wmk> of course, of course...
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987: [13:23:02] <ss-helper> Question about Searchable Field - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104372
988: [13:23:03] <ss-helper> Error - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/dataobjectmanager-module-forum/show/104369
989: [13:23:03] <ss-helper> Re: 502 Bad Gateway in Admin - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/24143#post404865
990: [13:23:03] <ss-helper> Re: [SOLVED] Admin system escaping characters showing /n/t - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/36874#post404864
991: [13:23:03] <ss-helper> Re: Folder not-connected to SS - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104337#post404863
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1006: [15:01:41] <samlander> hey guys
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1008: [15:03:33] <swaiba> samlander o/
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1013: [15:25:58] <PenguinMan98> Does the ss template have a loop iterator?
1014: [15:27:17] <PenguinMan98> $Pos(0):
1015: [15:27:19] <PenguinMan98> got it
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1031: [16:41:42] <wmk> anyone knows if we need another .htaccess on wamp?
1032: [16:43:49] <PenguinMan98> I'm running the site on wamp just fine
1033: [16:44:03] <PenguinMan98> What's the issue you're having?
1034: [16:53:21] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/customising-the-cms/show/104418
1035: [16:53:21] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/hosting-requirements/show/104417
1036: [16:53:21] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/all-other-modules/show/104416
1037: [16:53:21] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104415
1038: [16:53:21] <ss-helper> tortoise/turtles for sale - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/104414
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1044: [17:08:22] <ss-helper> Question about Searchable Field - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104372
1045: [17:08:23] <ss-helper> Error - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/dataobjectmanager-module-forum/show/104369
1046: [17:08:23] <ss-helper> Re: 502 Bad Gateway in Admin - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/24143#post404865
1047: [17:08:23] <ss-helper> Re: [SOLVED] Admin system escaping characters showing /n/t - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/36874#post404864
1048: [17:08:23] <ss-helper> Re: Folder not-connected to SS - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/104337#post404863
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1056: [17:42:24] <Firesphere> Hey zauberfisch, you haven't pushed to the repo yet? I can't deploy without a master that's up to date ;)
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1060: [18:07:31] <Parker> Hey. I have a site which has worked perfectly up until now. I changed one thing, it showed an "error with this request" message, so I undone what I did, but the site doesn't work... any help appreciated!
1061: [18:07:57] <Firesphere> It's impossible to say something useful about that, without any details.
1062: [18:10:18] <Parker> Well, I've checked the error logs - nothing there. I've flushed all, no changes. The only change I made was to a template to check an IF, which broke it. I don't know what else to say if I'm honest because it's not telling me much more
1063: [18:11:19] <Parker> You know what, forget it
1064: [18:11:26] <Firesphere> Could you make a pasty of what you changed?
1065: [18:11:28] <Parker> Just me being me -_-
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1067: [18:11:39] <Firesphere> Haha, you forgot something?
1068: [18:11:46] <Parker> Started typing something and forgot to finish it ><
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1070: [18:11:59] <Parker> Cheers for your help tho! :)
1071: [18:12:28] <Firesphere> No problem :) It happens :)
1072: [18:12:50] <Firesphere> Although, next time, try to show what you changed, so we can immediately spot what's wrong (if possible).
1073: [18:13:07] <Firesphere> Just asking "I changed something and now it's broken" is not really something we can work with ;)
1074: [18:14:14] <Parker> That was my initial problem though - I changed something, and undone it all... except the part I forgot to finish
1075: [18:14:32] <Parker> And the original version worked, so I couldn't show anything to say "this is where the problem is"
1076: [18:17:52] <Firesphere> You don't use any form of versioncontrol?
1077: [18:18:01] <wmk> Firesphere, i was about to ask the same
1078: [18:18:10] <wmk> git is cool for undoing changes
1079: [18:18:39] <Parker> I don't do a huge amount of web development, so if I'm honest, I've never really looked into how it works or how to use it etc... (hangs head in shame)
1080: [18:19:25] <Firesphere> Nah, no shame, but really, look into it. BitBucket has unlimited private repo's for devs that are alone.
1081: [18:19:31] <Firesphere> Just look into it. Read the gitbook.
1082: [18:19:46] <wmk> Parker, it's easier than you think
1083: [18:19:59] <wmk> you can even have private repos at your server and access it via ssh
1084: [18:20:11] <Parker> oh cool
1085: [18:20:16] <Firesphere> And have a look at SourceTree
1086: [18:20:25] <Firesphere> It takes 90% of the work out of your hands.
1087: [18:20:27] <wmk> if you don't need to have that UI of bitbucket or github
1088: [18:20:28] <Parker> Just signing up to BitBucket to have a look
1089: [18:20:34] <wmk> or if you don't trust 3rd parties
1090: [18:20:36] <Firesphere> Especially working the GitFlow method ;)
1091: [18:21:09] <wmk> Firesphere, sourctree... is there a plugin for phpstorm?
1092: [18:21:21] <wmk> or standalone?
1093: [18:21:25] <Firesphere> No, PHPStorm has Git integrated.
1094: [18:21:34] <Firesphere> But SourceTree is way better than any IDE-integrated plugin.
1095: [18:22:05] <wmk> well, i like git-bash
1096: [18:22:07] <wmk> ;)
1097: [18:22:42] <Parker> I have no idea what a "git" is... well, I know the British meaning but that's as far as it goes :P
1098: [18:22:51] <Firesphere> Yeah, I use the bash a lot as well, but SourceTree is visually better etc.
1099: [18:22:57] <Firesphere> It's a version-control-system.
1100: [18:23:03] <Parker> So to hear all these "gits" flying around in conversation certainly puts a smile on my face
1101: [18:23:07] <Firesphere> GitHub runs on git
1102: [18:23:18] <Firesphere> I have utterly no clue what "gits" are in the UK ;)
1103: [18:23:32] <Firesphere> https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2
1104: [18:23:36] <Firesphere> The git-book
1105: [18:23:39] <Parker> Thanks
1106: [18:24:05] <Parker> Really? Git: "an unpleasant or contemptible person"
1107: [18:24:16] <Firesphere> It's free, and with a bit of trial and error, plus SourceTree, you should get a lot of things done in a better way then renaming your folders to "final_version_really" ;)
1108: [18:24:39] <Firesphere> Ow, no, Git is awesome. It'll make that analogy disappear ;)
1109: [18:24:39] <Parker> Installing Source Tree :)
1110: [18:25:11] <Firesphere> You will need a BitBucket account and everything for it to work ofcourse. Just read the book, try to dive into VersionControl.
1111: [18:25:22] <Firesphere> Once you've used it, you'll never want to go back ;)
1112: [18:25:30] <Parker> Thank you :)
1113: [18:25:31] <Firesphere> It just takes a bit of getting used to :)
1114: [18:26:01] <Parker> I'm really surprised that SilverStripe isn't hugely used in the UK. It does everything I need. I'm aware of a hand full of developers, but not a huge amount
1115: [18:26:16] <Parker> I'll try and get my head around it ;)
1116: [18:26:36] <Firesphere> You're in the UK I understand? Where exactly?
1117: [18:26:55] <Parker> Wales
1118: [18:27:25] <Firesphere> Hmmmm, well, at best, may I invite you? See the Topic. Silverstripe European Conference.
1119: [18:27:39] <Firesphere> I have no contacts in Wales.
1120: [18:27:40] <Parker> That's the one in London - right?
1121: [18:27:51] <Firesphere> Jeps
1122: [18:27:58] <Firesphere> Ow, Zauberfisch, you here?
1123: [18:28:32] <Firesphere> If so, could you contact me on Skype?
1124: [18:30:06] <wmk> Parker, what does "git" mean in english?
1125: [18:30:41] <Parker> "an unpleasant or contemptible person", eg - "the old git"
1126: [18:31:13] <wmk> hmm...
1127: [18:31:36] <wmk> either the developers of git vcs didn't know that or have some strange humour
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1129: [18:31:50] <Parker> ha
1130: [18:31:54] <wmk> Parker, any chance you come to the conference in london in october?
1131: [18:32:42] <Parker> It's a bit of a drive ;)
1132: [18:33:24] <Parker> Where in London is it?
1133: [18:33:35] <wmk> Firesphere,^^^?
1134: [18:34:19] <Firesphere> Errr, http://www.meetup.com/SilverStripe-Europe-Meetup/events/216972322/
1135: [18:34:35] <Firesphere> Also, don't book your hotel yet. Joel is working on getting a hotel to sponsor ;)
1136: [18:34:54] <Parker> Ah ok
1137: [18:34:59] <Parker> I'll see what I can do
1138: [18:35:20] <Parker> I take it you guys aren't from the UK then?
1139: [18:36:50] <Firesphere> I'm Dutch, wmk is German (right?)
1140: [18:37:27] <wmk> Firesphere, yup, Bavarian living in Austria
1141: [18:37:50] <Firesphere> Ah :) Zauberfisch fellow countryman :D
1142: [18:37:51] <wmk> so right bottom of germny
1143: [18:38:14] <Firesphere> About 7 hours by train I guess (for me :P )
1144: [18:38:14] <wmk> yup, about 120km away from zauberfish
1145: [18:38:26] <Parker> Cool
1146: [18:38:31] <Parker> You been to the UK before?
1147: [18:38:41] <ss-helper> 3rd party javascript - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/104419
1148: [18:39:13] <Firesphere> Heh, yeah I have been to the UK: http://casa-laguna.net/specials/show/a-uk-trip-to-remember
1149: [18:39:20] <wmk> Parker, once in London, yes
1150: [18:40:04] <Parker> You want to come to Wales - that's the best part ;)
1151: [18:40:31] <Firesphere> Read my story ;) Me and Tinus wanted to go all the way around, but it didn't end up as we wished ;)
1152: [18:44:45] <Parker> Sounds like you had fun - but I don't see Wales on there! :)
1153: [18:45:13] <Firesphere> No, Tinus got a very, very, very bad knee infection in Scotland, so we had to abandon our plans and go home ;)
1154: [18:45:18] <Parker> ah
1155: [18:45:28] <Firesphere> We _wanted_ to go to Wales as well ;)
1156: [18:45:45] <wmk> Parker, Wels? it's in upper austria...
1157: [18:45:45] <Parker> If you go to the right parts of Wales, it's lovely - although Scotland is just as good (or dare I say, a bit better)
1158: [18:45:47] <Firesphere> But yeah, a big fat infection in the knee isn't really that much fun when you're hiking ;)
1159: [18:46:10] <Parker> Wels?
1160: [18:47:49] <Firesphere> Play on words by WMK ;)
1161: [18:48:30] <Parker> I'm actually from South Wales, but there's also a "New South Wales" in... I think Australia?
1162: [18:48:31] <wmk> Wels sounds like "Wales" to me https://www.google.de/maps/place/Wels,+%C3%96sterreich/@48.1762041,14.0909606,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x4773f2a1ca267d99:0xe980c84f38ec7e18!6m1!1e1
1163: [18:49:04] <Parker> wmk - our "Wels" is a little bit bigger ;)
1164: [18:49:26] <wmk> man, no "mine is bigger" discussion here!
1165: [18:49:36] <wmk> ;)
1166: [18:49:38] <Parker> haha
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1168: [18:53:38] <Parker> I'll try my best with the conference in London. Would actually be good. I have family in London too, so would give me an excuse to visit them I suppose!
1169: [18:53:50] <Parker> Where should I be looking to hear about hotel sponsors?
1170: [18:54:08] <wmk> hmm, here, conf website
1171: [18:54:12] <wmk> meetup
1172: [18:54:43] <Parker> Ok - I'll keep an eye on it :)
1173: [18:55:49] <Parker> I'm going to have to go - but I'll try and pop on here once in a while. Oh, and I'll give this 'git' thing a go :)
1174: [18:55:52] <Parker> Thanks guys
1175: [18:56:04] <wmk> you're welcome!
1176: [18:56:39] <Parker> Bye!
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1181: [19:35:26] <Copperis> is ss-log's source available anywhere? The irc logger
1182: [19:35:51] <muskie9> Copperis http://logs.simon.geek.nz
1183: [19:35:54] <Firesphere> I think the Github repository would be a good start
1184: [19:36:15] <muskie9> there was something in the footer at some point, not sure if it's still htere
1185: [19:37:45] <Copperis> there's a sponsored message, didn't fine more relevant info besides that
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1205: [23:00:40] <samlander> hey guys, how do i access $this->data()->Myfield if im calling from a staick shortcode parser function in my controller?
1206: [23:02:19] <Motoservo> Little confused on the tagfield module. Is there enough functionality there for a tag cloud? Or, is that what blogcategories is for?
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1208: [23:04:12] <samlander> anyone?
1209: [23:06:32] <Motoservo> Best guess is the tagfield is allowing that same field from the blog but elsewhere on other objects? So, then (also best guess) blogcategories would be for displaying the tags? The documentation is a bit short on these.
1210: [23:12:36] <samlander> omfg why cant i access data() from staic
1211: [23:15:50] <samlander> honeymoon's over.
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1214: [23:59:15] <samlander> how can i force cache to recycle on a page?

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