#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 7 July 2015

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1: [00:00:14] <simon_w|air> Unless you explicitly look at the repository location, you don't get any idea it's labs
2: [00:00:28] <simon_w|air> https://packagist.org/packages/silverstripe/testsession is even worse
3: [00:01:13] <vanny> hailwood im trying to dynamically pull columns on the viewer now,
4: [00:01:25] <adrexia> yeah, maybe change the namespacing in composer too
5: [00:01:34] <UncleCheese> in my experience, if an open-source project is being used, it will invariably be maintained.. it's simple behavioural economics
6: [00:01:41] <irogue> is there a flag for composer.json to only let it be pulled in via require-dev?
7: [00:01:45] <UncleCheese> if it's not being maintained, it's probably not being used
8: [00:02:05] <irogue> cos that module should ideally be made to only be available in dev
9: [00:02:08] <adrexia> or it's being used by newer developers
10: [00:02:17] <adrexia> or less confident developers
11: [00:05:48] <simon_w|air> The postgresql module is a great example of this
12: [00:05:55] <simon_w|air> Isn't used by SS Ltd, is used by the community
13: [00:05:58] <simon_w|air> Isn't maintained
14: [00:07:24] <adrexia> I think the "open source community" these days are not what they used to be, or what people thinks it is. It's a much wider audience, with widely varying skill, and often much less commitment
15: [00:07:46] <adrexia> there's a lot of people who are just consumers of open source
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18: [00:10:28] <irogue> https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-testsession/issues/21
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21: [00:12:23] <adrexia> irogue but what if I _want_ to open source my database and webserver?
22: [00:12:24] <adrexia> ;)
23: [00:12:29] <irogue> :P
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25: [00:15:21] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5267 (3.2 - 1dbffed : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
26: [00:15:21] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/f43944276dfa...1dbffed388a5
27: [00:15:21] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/69816162
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29: [00:15:27] <Stomach> adrexia - select2 sounds like a way better idea
30: [00:15:43] <adrexia> yeah. I'm pretty sick of the chosen project to be honest
31: [00:15:56] <adrexia> they have a very vocal and useful community that they just shut out
32: [00:16:38] <adrexia> if the community took over that project and Harvest left, it'd be so much better off.
33: [00:21:08] <Stomach> yeah definitely
34: [00:21:27] <Stomach> select2 is so much faster - we replace lots of dropdowns with it in the CMS already due to chosen being a slow dog
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37: [00:25:21] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: thought you don’t use jQuery anymore?
38: [00:26:01] <Stomach> not on the front end
39: [00:26:08] <Stomach> kind of hard to avoid in the CMS ...
40: [00:26:18] <Ryan-Toast> I need to convert a couple of bootstraps modules to es6
41: [00:26:26] <UncleCheese> Entwine is hard to avoid in the CMS, let alone jQuery
42: [00:26:26] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: trudat
43: [00:26:32] <UncleCheese> haha.. jQuery
44: [00:26:33] <Stomach> UncleCheese :D
45: [00:26:39] <UncleCheese> remember that?
46: [00:26:43] <Stomach> not really
47: [00:26:44] <simon_w|air> Entwine needs to go away :p
48: [00:26:46] <Ryan-Toast> entwine *shakes fist*
49: [00:26:49] <UncleCheese> simon_w|air +1
50: [00:26:56] <UncleCheese> talk about release and forget :)
51: [00:27:04] <Stomach> you mean concrete? hah.
52: [00:27:36] <simon_w|air> Well, I've stumped Apple's 1st level support
53: [00:27:42] <UncleCheese> it came out about two years too late
54: [00:27:44] <simon_w|air> Up the escalation tree we go!
55: [00:27:56] <UncleCheese> entwine was released just as JS MVC was topping out
56: [00:27:59] * DanaeNZ plays the Adrian Brody Adventure music
57: [00:28:15] <UncleCheese> simon_w|air ask them why apple music is shit
58: [00:28:30] <DanaeNZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygI-2F8ApUM
59: [00:28:33] <Stomach> UncleCheese - isn't Lucie involved in that?
60: [00:28:48] <simon_w|air> UncleCheese, because it's not a web view
61: [00:29:16] <adrexia> replacing entwine and jquery in the cms would be a huge job though
62: [00:29:24] <adrexia> too much relies on pjax
63: [00:29:27] <simon_w|air> UncleCheese, oh wait, you said shit
64: [00:29:35] <simon_w|air> Works for me :p
65: [00:37:48] <Hailwood> Ok, wtf is up with this: http://i.imgur.com/Rnib7f7.png
66: [00:38:32] <simon_w|air> Hailwood, you're calling that method somewhere, without providing a $request object
67: [00:38:44] <simon_w|air> Probably from your template, to get the form to show up
68: [00:39:38] <DanaeNZ> WHY FLOATS U NO WORK RANDOMLY
69: [00:39:53] <Hailwood> simon_w|air, Ah righto, so I'm probably going about this wrong, how can I get the text input to retain it's value after the form has been submitted?
70: [00:44:18] <simon_w|air> Wee, escalated to engineers now
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74: [00:52:36] <antmas> morning all o/
75: [00:52:47] <DanaeNZ> antmas: yoyo
76: [00:55:00] <adrexia> \o/
77: [00:58:36] <simon_w|air> antmas, you've moved?
78: [00:58:57] <antmas> simon_w|air: hmm?
79: [00:59:01] <antmas> DanaeNZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CLcjvIQJns0
80: [00:59:06] <antmas> new :)
81: [00:59:21] <DanaeNZ> antmas: :OOO
82: [01:00:17] <simon_w|air> antmas, it's not the morning in Tasman
83: [01:00:34] <simon_w|air> Is in Tasmania though
84: [01:00:38] <simon_w|air> ...
85: [01:00:47] <antmas> yeah but isn't that a thing where you just say 'morning' in #ss?
86: [01:01:07] <simon_w|air> I don't say anything when coming in, so don't know :p
87: [01:01:23] <antmas> just a lurker :P
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89: [01:02:56] <simon_w|air> Tasmania made the Tasmanian Devil their official animal
90: [01:03:01] <simon_w|air> But not the one from Looney Tunes
91: [01:03:07] <simon_w|air> Was very disappointing
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95: [01:13:14] <adrexia> antmas - I think usually people say 'morning' when its mornign where they are
96: [01:13:17] <adrexia> ;)
97: [01:13:34] <adrexia> or at least, if its morning where the people they are talking to are from
98: [01:18:30] <DanaeNZ> antmas: oh man exciting, can’t wait to give that game a go
99: [01:37:51] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: I still think the scope is too big/.
100: [01:38:13] <DanaeNZ> yeah I’m expecting the usualy MMO pitfalls
101: [01:38:17] <DanaeNZ> usual*
102: [01:38:23] <DanaeNZ> will still be a neat play
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107: [01:53:05] <Ryan-Toast> “The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.” heh
108: [01:53:20] * DanaeNZ googles tautology
109: [01:53:40] <DanaeNZ> oh hahaha
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111: [01:59:35] <antmas> the whole thing about the game that irks me is that while you can go literally 'everywhere', it seems that 'everywhere' looks the same.
112: [01:59:49] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: dat scope.
113: [01:59:53] <Ryan-Toast> too big.
114: [02:04:49] <antmas> mm
115: [02:06:22] <Vedran__> whats the best way to ensure that jquery is defined/included only once per theme? I think I have a conflict because a plugin is calling for it after its already loaded (or vice versa)
116: [02:07:24] <Kingy> antmas: that looks like fun
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118: [02:08:02] <antmas> Kingy: I'd say it'd be pretty fun, but it will get old
119: [02:08:05] <antmas> quick
120: [02:08:08] <Kingy> yeah
121: [02:08:08] <Vedran__> well apparently if you 'require' the same file, it will only include it once. Go ss!
122: [02:08:14] <Kingy> like most games these days
123: [02:08:30] <Kingy> quite hard to keep me captivated enough to finish anything
124: [02:08:51] <antmas> W3 and Elite Dangerous are the only games I've played in a long time that I keep going back to
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127: [02:09:30] <helenclarko> o/
128: [02:11:28] <helenclarko> Hey all, how can i Indicate end of string in an ss file? Im using height: $BackgroundImage.height as inline css, but because $BackgroundImage.height is equal to 180 and not 180px It does nothing.
129: [02:11:55] <adrexia> {px} ?
130: [02:12:12] <adrexia> or {$BackgroundImage.height}px
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132: [02:15:03] <antmas> what kind of program doesn't allow ctrl-z?
133: [02:15:09] <antmas> YOU MONSTER
134: [02:15:17] <adrexia> life
135: [02:15:35] <ss23> yeah, how else could you background the process?
136: [02:16:13] <antmas> this is a reporting service - you right lots of stuff in it
137: [02:16:18] <antmas> and no ctrl-z?
138: [02:16:19] <helenclarko> adrexia, thank you. I would tell you if it worked, but my webserver just crashed.
139: [02:16:22] <antmas> DAFUQ
140: [02:16:24] <helenclarko> Typical.
141: [02:16:31] <adrexia> ouch
142: [02:16:35] <antmas> helenclarko: fixit
143: [02:16:37] <antmas> :D
144: [02:17:10] <helenclarko> Haha, Somethings up with the AWS image.
145: [02:21:06] <simon_w|air> helenclarko, it's ss23's fault
146: [02:21:46] <helenclarko> I know.
147: [02:22:21] <ss23> :(
148: [02:22:23] <ss23> IT'S NOT ME BRO
149: [02:22:25] <ss23> IT'S NOT ME
150: [02:22:35] <helenclarko> Haha
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152: [02:32:18] <antmas> I really want this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BAYGR1ddY&feature=player_embedded
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154: [02:45:41] <helenclarko> ok, webserver is back and adrexia, thanks... all working.
155: [02:46:18] <adrexia> +1
156: [02:46:49] <adrexia> ss23 - sometimes I think you are the webserver
157: [02:47:51] * ss23 beeps
158: [02:48:06] * ss23 hands out HTTP
159: [02:48:16] * antmas GETS
160: [02:48:21] <antmas> ohhh a cookie :D
161: [02:48:23] <antmas> nomnom
162: [02:49:04] * irogue is now known as irogue-6
163: [02:49:27] <ss23> :D
164: [02:49:30] <ss23> COOKIES 4 ALL
165: [02:51:27] <antmas> 'Can you make the Nelson SQL Server meetup this Thursday'?
166: [02:51:34] <antmas> LOL
167: [02:51:40] <Kingy> rofl
168: [02:51:51] <Kingy> how many people go to that
169: [02:52:00] <antmas> apparently, 2 :D
170: [02:52:06] <adrexia> haha
171: [02:52:11] <Kingy> good excuse for some beers
172: [02:52:23] <Kingy> just going to a meetup honey, be back later
173: [02:52:27] <antmas> lol
174: [02:52:34] * antmas is on dry July
175: [02:52:40] <antmas> no more beersies :(
176: [02:52:50] <Kingy> nice
177: [02:52:58] <Kingy> my gf thought she'd do the whole ramadan thing
178: [02:53:05] <Kingy> glad i'm not
179: [02:53:19] <antmas> would be fun to do once
180: [02:53:48] <Kingy> yeah, so much easier to do it while in the middle easy
181: [02:53:49] <Kingy> east
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183: [02:53:57] <Kingy> at least they shut stuff down during the day
184: [02:54:07] <Kingy> even if you wanted food, you'd be hard pressed to find anything open
185: [02:54:07] <antmas> mm
186: [02:54:20] <antmas> too many irogue's
187: [02:54:38] * Kingy is now known as irogue-7
188: [02:54:40] <antmas> Kingy: did she stay over there?
189: [02:54:48] <irogue-7> nah she's here
190: [02:54:49] <irogue-5> irogue-7: ARE YOU ON THE ROOF?!!?
191: [02:54:58] * antmas is now known as irogue-8
192: [02:55:18] <irogue-8> *chhhshshs* come in irogue-5 *chchshshsh*
193: [02:55:35] <simon_w|air> irogue-5, 6, 7, 8?
194: [02:55:39] <simon_w|air> Some sort of chant?
195: [02:55:40] <irogue-7> jelly?
196: [02:55:52] <irogue-8> all the irogue's
197: [02:56:01] <simon_w|air> Nah, pizza night so no jelly
198: [02:56:14] <irogue-5> 5 6 7 8 my boot scootin baby is drivin me crazy
199: [02:56:22] <irogue-8> LOL
200: [02:56:31] <irogue-8> irogue leader
201: [02:56:43] * irogue-8 makes tie fighter and x-wing noises
202: [02:56:51] * ss23 is now known as irogue-4
203: [02:56:57] <irogue-4> Look at me
204: [02:56:58] <irogue-4> LOOK AT ME
205: [02:57:02] <irogue-4> I'm the captain now
206: [02:57:11] * irogue-8 squints
207: [02:57:13] <irogue-8> -_-
208: [02:57:14] * irogue-4 applies camoflauge
209: [02:57:16] <irogue-5> irogue-4: level 4 smells weird
210: [02:57:23] <irogue-4> Stop going on level 4
211: [02:57:26] <irogue-7> irogue-4 is all opped though
212: [02:57:27] <irogue-4> I didn't even know that was an option
213: [02:57:36] * simon_w|air is now known as red-4
214: [02:57:38] <irogue-8> u no irogue-5 op?
215: [02:57:41] <irogue-7> oh wait, the number represents the floor number?
216: [02:57:44] <red-4> I'm the guy that blows up the thing!
217: [02:57:55] <irogue-8> red-4: it's a trap
218: [02:57:59] <irogue-5> irogue-7: yep, which is why 7 and 8 are so confusing!
219: [02:58:00] <irogue-4> Oh, I see
220: [02:58:08] <irogue-7> uh-huh
221: [02:58:11] <irogue-4> Here I was thinking we were just picking numbers
222: [02:58:14] <red-4> irogue-8, wrong thing!
223: [02:58:17] <irogue-7> is it a nice day in wellington? if so then i can handle the roof
224: [02:58:22] <irogue-4> irogue-7: Um....
225: [02:58:24] * irogue-4 looks outside
226: [02:58:25] <irogue-4> No
227: [02:58:26] <irogue-4> No it's not
228: [02:58:28] <Vedran__> inside a loop $Children is there a way to get the current increment?
229: [02:58:30] * irogue-7 is now known as irogue-basement
230: [02:58:39] <irogue-4> Vedran__: current "increment"? Like a loop counter?
231: [02:58:44] <red-4> Vedran__, $Pos
232: [02:58:45] <Vedran__> yep
233: [02:58:47] <red-4> (1 based)
234: [02:58:48] <Vedran__> thanks red-4
235: [02:58:49] <irogue-basement> pos
236: [02:58:53] <irogue-4> your a pos.
237: [02:58:56] <red-4> Or, $Pos(0) for 0-based
238: [02:59:12] <irogue-basement> irogue-4: cruel
239: [02:59:21] <irogue-4> function pos($num = 1) { return $realpos + $num; } ?
240: [02:59:23] <irogue-basement> i'm no point of sale
241: [02:59:28] <irogue-4> Can I do $Pos(-5)?
242: [02:59:38] <red-4> irogue-4, basically
243: [02:59:43] <irogue-4> chur
244: [02:59:53] <irogue-4> I'm going to use 0.5 just to confuse people from now on
245: [02:59:59] <red-4> (It's $this->_curPos, not $realpos)
246: [03:00:10] <irogue-4> Yeah, I didn't know the real holder for it :P
247: [03:00:10] <Hailwood> Anyone here use file watchers in phpstorm?
248: [03:00:53] <DanaeNZ> …….where did all these irogues come from
249: [03:01:05] <irogue-4> DanaeNZ: shhh
250: [03:01:06] <irogue-4> don't question it
251: [03:01:07] <irogue-4> accept it
252: [03:01:13] <irogue-5> irogue is love. irogue is life.
253: [03:01:14] <DanaeNZ> >>
254: [03:01:19] <DanaeNZ> hahaha
255: [03:01:26] <irogue-4> and then I became irogue, destroyer of irc
256: [03:01:47] * irogue-basement is now known as irogue-3
257: [03:02:07] <red-4> DanaeNZ, well, when a mummy irogue and a daddy irogue love each other very much
258: [03:02:18] <DanaeNZ> nonononon
259: [03:04:37] <red-4> So which irogue is the mummy and which is the daddy?
260: [03:04:44] <red-4> irogue-7 and irogue-8?
261: [03:05:09] <irogue-8> not me
262: [03:05:12] * irogue-8 had a test
263: [03:05:19] <Stomach> so confusing
264: [03:05:20] <irogue-8> >.>
265: [03:06:14] * irogue-8 is now known as antmas
266: [03:06:17] <adrexia> if real life were like irc, this would be so surreal
267: [03:06:19] <antmas> FUNS OVER GUIS
268: [03:06:30] <red-4> OH NO, HIS BOSS CAME IN
269: [03:10:36] * irogue-5 quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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271: [03:11:15] <irogue-5> fuuu this laptop has auto sleep turned on
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273: [03:13:12] <irogue-5> STOP ABUSING CATS irogue-4
274: [03:14:59] * irogue-3 is now known as Kingy
275: [03:16:57] * irogue-4 is now known as ss23
276: [03:17:45] * red-4 is now known as simon_w|air
277: [03:19:17] <spronk> :|
278: [03:20:22] <adrexia> |:
279: [03:20:52] <irogue-5> :|
280: [03:21:08] <spronk> | :
281: [03:21:23] <DanaeNZ> :|
282: [03:21:25] <DanaeNZ> :()
283: [03:21:26] <DanaeNZ> :|
284: [03:21:35] <antmas> :K
285: [03:21:39] <DanaeNZ> :T
286: [03:21:52] <antmas> DanaeNZ: side eating?
287: [03:22:06] <antmas> :{|
288: [03:22:11] <DanaeNZ> heheh yeah or like, annoyed
289: [03:22:15] <simon_w|air> Looks suspiciously like Angband...
290: [03:22:19] <antmas> lol
291: [03:22:46] <simon_w|air> (rubble, arrows, wand)
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293: [03:23:55] <hamror> have you tried brogue simon_w|air
294: [03:23:57] <hamror> so good
295: [03:28:19] <Stomach> "noun - a strong outdoor shoe with ornamental perforated patterns in the leather."
296: [03:29:57] <adrexia> very scottish
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299: [04:03:06] <helenclarko> Hey all, how can I access <% if children %> without showing them in the menu? Or is there another variable I should use.
300: [04:03:45] <irogue-6> helenclarko: $AllChildren includes all children (not just ones showing in menu)
301: [04:03:59] <helenclarko> awesome!
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303: [04:04:30] <irogue-6> uh-oh, irogue-5 went to sleep
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329: [05:04:47] <irogue-5> fucking courierpost
330: [05:04:59] <DanaeNZ> amen
331: [05:05:53] <irogue-5> someone tried to deliver something to my house, of course I was at work. so I got it redirected to the postshop across the street. courierpost said it'd be there at 3pm. went at 4pm, no package. just checked tracking, it was delivered to the postshop at 4:55pm - the postshop closes at 5pm.
332: [05:06:21] <DanaeNZ> you should flip some tables
333: [05:06:59] <irogue-5> the table I'm sitting at is heavy as fuck
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339: [05:28:37] <Kingy> irogue-5: so then you must go to the gym first
340: [05:28:40] <Kingy> get strong
341: [05:28:43] <Kingy> and then flip table
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366: [06:10:14] <irogue-5> I think I've done more pull requests today than in the rest of my life combined
367: [06:10:39] <adrexia> :D
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370: [06:19:12] <irogue-6> fixed the https issues for doc/api/userhelp/addons.silverstripe.org
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377: [06:40:16] <frostfire64> hi o/
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379: [06:47:39] <Vedran__> how can I transform a "ManualAdvance" => "Boolean",
380: [06:47:43] <Vedran__> into true/false?
381: [06:48:06] <Vedran__> without a if $ManualAdavance = 1...
382: [06:49:48] <simon_w|air> Vedran__, $ManualAdvance.Nice
383: [06:49:59] <Vedran__> that didnt work, its exporting JS
384: [06:50:10] <Vedran__> Requirements::customScript(
385: [06:50:22] <Vedran__> im just about to try setting the field as boolean(1)
386: [06:50:58] <simon_w|air> var_export((bool)$this->ManualAdvance, true);
387: [06:51:24] <Vedran__> whoar
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389: [06:52:04] <Vedran__> whats the ,true parameter for simon_w|air ?
390: [06:52:29] <simon_w|air> Makes it return rather than output
391: [06:53:01] <Vedran__> i dont think i have ever used var_export
392: [06:53:05] <Vedran__> thank you
393: [06:57:30] <Mike123> Morning
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417: [08:03:09] <guci0> Hello World!
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424: [08:13:18] <Pyrmnk> woo
425: [08:14:42] <Pyrmnk> all day tracking an issue with ms SQL server only for some external it guy to solve it by turning the service off and on again.
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427: [08:16:05] <Pyrmnk> hurr durr whole company operationally dependent on a system NO ONE has any training on
428: [08:16:16] <Pyrmnk> deep.
429: [08:16:26] <Pyrmnk> derp.
430: [08:19:03] <swaiba> Pyrmnk standard
431: [08:20:16] <Pyrmnk> certainly in this place!
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434: [08:34:06] <darjus01> Hi all
435: [08:35:07] <Pyrmnk> hi
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440: [08:44:32] <Mike123> hi darjus01 :)
441: [08:44:49] <darjus01> :)
442: [08:56:07] <ss-helper> Please implement getFields on your MultiFormStep subclass - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31263962/please-implement-getfields-on-your-multiformstep-subclass
443: [08:58:27] <Mike123> i have object with translations , i have done an import for these object but i'm wondering how could i import translations for each object ?
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447: [09:03:14] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: how do you mean import?
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449: [09:05:13] <Mike123> import i mean with CSV file
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452: [09:13:27] <Mike123> Pyrmnk , i have something like this http://snag.gy/LkSHZ.jpg , now i need to pass translations for each of these elements something like Primary alcohol => EN[Pimary alcohol],NO[...] etc. any ideas ?
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455: [09:29:16] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: depends on how the translation is done really
456: [09:30:26] <Pyrmnk> if translatable, then they're all different objects. import repeatedly changing the locale column.
457: [09:31:09] <Pyrmnk> if fluent , then add the translations to the same import file I guess.
458: [09:32:06] <Pyrmnk> you'll have to play around a bit to figure out I think
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464: [10:08:07] <Mike123> Pyrmnk , sorry got connection lost , can u repeat yourself ? :)
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466: [10:14:57] <r3v3rb> hi everyone
467: [10:16:35] <r3v3rb> anyone ever have a situtation where javascript variables get stripped of their $ in the ss templates? for example I have var $animating = $(this); yet the rendered html is var = $(this);
468: [10:16:51] <r3v3rb> it even removes the variable name too
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471: [10:21:42] <Alboes> hi. I installed the translatable module and want to add the arabic language. I tried ar_AE and ar_SA, but this languages doesn't appear in the cms. The languages de_DE and en_US appear
472: [10:30:10] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: logs.simon.geek.NZ
473: [10:39:27] <r3v3rb> Pyrmnk: ever seen the above?
474: [10:45:56] <Pyrmnk> r3v3rb: nup. you using 'js template'?
475: [10:46:20] <r3v3rb> tried both, in the html template and as external file… weird
476: [10:47:09] <Pyrmnk> Alboes: it might be a case of no one having contributed those languages yo the project yet.
477: [10:48:03] <Pyrmnk> you can check up, iirc transifex is the service used to generate them.
478: [10:48:43] <darjus01> if I am making add function from frontend, and in controller i have public function addMonthlyInputForm() {
479: [10:48:43] <darjus01> $form = new addMonthlyInputForm($this, "addMonthlyInputForm");
480: [10:48:43] <darjus01> return $form;
481: [10:48:43] <darjus01> }
482: [10:48:45] <Pyrmnk> silverstripe docs should have more info
483: [10:49:53] <darjus01> so in my function add() i need to customize(form = $this->addMonthlyInputForm) to pas it to custom template or not?
484: [10:50:33] <Alboes> I already found, had to add the common_locales in the yaml
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487: [10:53:30] <NETim> Morning. How can I change the template for forgotten password emails?
488: [10:59:16] <swaiba> NETim - personally we have custom LoginForm forms and on those forgotPassword is overidden and does our bidding
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490: [11:01:34] <NETim> Ah.
491: [11:01:53] <NETim> I was hoping that I could just create a new ForgotPasswordEmail.ss and SS would use that.
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493: [11:15:06] <Pyrmnk> NETim: pretty much should be able to, yeah. might need it in mysite rather than theme though
494: [11:16:11] <Pyrmnk> darjus01: depends on how you call it.
495: [11:16:30] <Pyrmnk> in the template that is
496: [11:17:05] <Pyrmnk> but it seems likely yeah
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509: [11:43:54] <Mike123> guys, i need to make a search form, never used to make one... i have and DO and i need to search by Title or by special ID that DO has(it's onlt numbers like 44-22-33).... any advice ?
510: [11:44:52] <Pyrmnk> use GET
511: [11:45:09] <Mike123> should i use SS search form or should i make my own ?
512: [11:45:19] <Pyrmnk> SearchForm might be of use, maybe.
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514: [11:45:38] <Pyrmnk> I would probably just make my own.
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516: [11:46:21] <Pyrmnk> set method to GET, disable security token.
517: [11:46:22] <r3v3rb> whoops - vpn starting and stopping!
518: [11:46:45] <Pyrmnk> do search via ORM
519: [11:47:25] <Mike123> like Object::get()->filter()... ?
520: [11:47:34] <Pyrmnk> use the one input field for multiple keys in a filterAny
521: [11:48:33] <Pyrmnk> filterAny as it joins the clauses with an OR rather than AND (which filter() uses)
522: [11:49:14] <Mike123> hmm
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524: [11:53:40] <Mike123> is filterAny already defined method or should i make my own ?
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526: [11:56:28] <Mike123> oh i see, never used it before :)
527: [11:59:26] <Mike123> ok but can i make something like Object::get()->filterAny('Title' or 'CAS(special id)', array(here gies all keywords from form))
528: [11:59:47] <Mike123> because i need to check two fields from DO
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534: [12:06:30] <Mike123> Pyrmnk , how do i specify two modifiers at once , so that i get something like that, where(Title OR CAS = array(array of keywords))
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536: [12:13:14] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: it works in exactly the same way as filter()
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538: [12:15:34] <Pyrmnk> if you can't get it to work, there's always where()
539: [12:15:46] <Mike123> so i should make simpple form wiith get method and write my searchAction for it that will FilerAny() for my DO ?
540: [12:16:04] <Pyrmnk> just be sure to manually escape things if you do use it.
541: [12:16:38] <Pyrmnk> yes, basically. its a form like any other.
542: [12:16:52] <Mike123> ok thx
543: [12:17:04] <Pyrmnk> check the old tutorial #4 for more hints o think
544: [12:17:15] <Pyrmnk> I*
545: [12:18:26] <Pyrmnk> it's been a while since I've read it, but it should hopefully still be relevant.
546: [12:19:25] <Mike123> ok, Thanks :0
547: [12:19:29] <Mike123> :)
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551: [12:35:11] <Frans_Amsterdam> Hola, anyome familiar with a SS intalation on IIS. I can't get rid off the direcotry name in the url like: www.mydomain.com/home/mypage.
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553: [12:39:00] <Mike123> Pyrmnk, i have make a form with action method, but how do i print results of this method to my SearchPage
554: [12:39:40] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: customise!
555: [12:40:04] <Pyrmnk> or return array (shorthand for same thing)
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557: [12:40:39] <Pyrmnk> see docs on actions I think
558: [12:40:47] <Mike123> and i will be able to get this array on any page ?
559: [12:46:32] <Mike123> hmm , Pyrmnk , i get There seems to have been a technical problem. Please click the back button, refresh your browser, and try again. then i submut
560: [12:46:35] <Mike123> submit*
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564: [12:55:22] <Pyrmnk> you didn't disable the security token
565: [12:56:37] <Pyrmnk> be sure to use the get method & disable the security token
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567: [13:06:13] <Mike123> how do i set get method in SS ?
568: [13:06:21] <Mike123> it automatically set's me post
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573: [13:14:19] <Mike123> Pyrmnk, just to know, why do i need to disable SecurityToken ?
574: [13:14:36] <Mike123> i disabled it already
575: [13:20:06] <Pyrmnk> no need for it
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577: [13:20:44] <Pyrmnk> and can cause issues exactly like the one you described above
578: [13:21:40] <Pyrmnk> search forms don't need that feature. is also the reason for setting GET submission method
579: [13:28:18] <Mike123> ok, Pyrmnk, no i get all the keyword, now i need to split whole search string into seperate keywords, like if i have keyword1,keyword2,keyword3/keyword4 , what is the best method for spliting them ? as i understand i will need to prepare array for filterAny() method
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581: [13:29:34] <Pyrmnk> hmm, if you're submitting multiple keywords in one field, that's a bit unusual.
582: [13:30:14] <Pyrmnk> but in short, probably just explode(',', $value)
583: [13:30:48] <Pyrmnk> http://php.net/explode
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585: [13:35:12] <Mike123> but what if iuser will separate keywords by space... what's a but confusing..
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588: [13:43:38] <darjus01> in SSupload field in frontend how to get upload and puti it to field in frontend?
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592: [13:48:15] <cupcake> Hi how do you allow tinymce to only allow empty divs which have any attribute?
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594: [13:48:31] <cupcake> and remove divs with no attributes and no text
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596: [13:50:31] <Mike123> cupcake , enter this in _config.php : HtmlEditorConfig::get('cms')->setOption('verify_html', false);
597: [13:51:03] <cupcake> but i dont want to disable all html
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600: [13:52:08] <Mike123> hmm, u need it for some elements only ?
601: [13:52:34] <cupcake> because i am trying to embed instagram code
602: [13:52:40] <cupcake> and it is stripping away empty divs
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604: [13:52:56] <cupcake> so its removing the empty divs which generate the image
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606: [13:56:27] <ss-helper> How to call a widget in the template based on ID or ClassName - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31270475/how-to-call-a-widget-in-the-template-based-on-id-or-classname
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609: [14:00:09] <Pyrmnk> cupcake: unfortunately tinymce is never nice.
610: [14:01:57] <Pyrmnk> cupcake: you'll need to look at the tinymce site to see if it's possible.
611: [14:04:04] <Pyrmnk> o don't recommend it though. my experience with divs in it is that if you insert an image it will shrink the div to the width of the image :≤
612: [14:04:20] <Pyrmnk> not ideal.
613: [14:05:35] <Pyrmnk> darjus01: I would not use the UploadField on the front-end
614: [14:05:48] <Mike123> Pyrmnk , i have a problem a bit rendering results :( http://codepaste.net/9wipq7 i just want to print the result i entered in the same page, i am looping method and inside printing $result variable, but it shows me Undefined variable: data
615: [14:06:20] <Pyrmnk> probably just go for good ol' FileField
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619: [14:08:13] <Pyrmnk> Mike123: hmm. I don't see any searching going on there...
620: [14:08:55] <Mike123> no search for now... i want to make contact with the page first , then searching
621: [14:13:59] <Pyrmnk> easier to do it in the page controller like a normal form
622: [14:14:10] <Pyrmnk> I think
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625: [14:36:24] <r3v3rb> weirdness
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627: [14:42:00] <Mike123> omg!
628: [14:42:08] <Mike123> wmk IS back PPL !
629: [14:42:52] <wmk> ?
630: [14:43:13] <wmk> well, my body is back, my mind needs some time to return
631: [14:44:04] <Mike123> I believe :)
632: [14:48:52] <swaiba> wmk o/
633: [14:49:03] <wmk> hey swaiba
634: [14:49:08] <wmk> anything i missed?
635: [14:49:59] <swaiba> you know kinda quiet, when Pyxxxxx wasn't online :)
636: [14:53:04] <kinglozz_> wmk: Yeah while you were gone we decided SS should be rebuilt in python
637: [14:53:06] <kinglozz_> ;)
638: [14:53:12] * kinglozz_ is now known as kinglozzer
639: [14:53:40] <r3v3rb> wmk, not much - my vpn went kooky and SiteConfig::add_extension('Translatable'); is playing silly buggers - shows the translated sites in the translations tab but not the default language of the site…
640: [14:53:54] <wmk> kinglozzer, hmmm...
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642: [14:54:56] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: and called silverpress
643: [14:54:56] <darjus01> Security::set_default_login_dest('/'); its sets to all users after login go to home page, can I make after login for admin make goto dashboard?
644: [14:55:17] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: silversnake?
645: [14:55:40] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: silverla
646: [14:56:22] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: silverserpent?
647: [14:56:36] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: pythonstripe?
648: [14:56:48] <kinglozzer> GOLDSTRIPE
649: [14:56:50] <kinglozzer> one better :D
650: [14:57:46] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: nice, I see Pyrmnk is moonlighting in pythonland: https://twitter.com/pykonik
651: [14:58:10] <r3v3rb> very loose connection there I apologise!
652: [14:58:20] <kinglozzer> :P
653: [15:00:10] <kinglozzer> wmk: Nothing really new since 3.2b1.. only "announcement" is that we're applying to join PHP-FIG
654: [15:00:22] <r3v3rb> arghhhhh
655: [15:00:27] <r3v3rb> I hate translatable
656: [15:01:20] <r3v3rb> old 2.4 module worked nicely - choose translation on sitetree - go to settings = settings for that translation…
657: [15:01:45] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Use fluent!
658: [15:01:53] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-fluent
659: [15:02:10] <kinglozzer> (disclaimer: i've never used translatable)
660: [15:02:11] <kinglozzer> :P
661: [15:02:20] <wmk> r3v3rb, ah, the old silverpress issue
662: [15:02:28] <kinglozzer> Fluent is a piece of cake, though. Not sure if it has the same features
663: [15:02:51] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: I have six languages to bring across from an old 2.4 translatable site though
664: [15:03:04] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: *cough* https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-fluent/blob/master/docs/en/translatable.md
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666: [15:03:33] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: *cough cough splutter coffee in keyboard*
667: [15:03:34] <wmk> well... i decided not to move from translatable to fluent (for old migrated site)
668: [15:03:58] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: does it support locking down content editors to languages?
669: [15:04:06] <wmk> fluent also has some cons....
670: [15:04:12] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Nope
671: [15:04:19] <r3v3rb> no good to me then!
672: [15:04:20] <r3v3rb> lol
673: [15:04:23] <kinglozzer> :(
674: [15:04:26] <kinglozzer> fair enough :P
675: [15:04:55] <r3v3rb> each site is run by an individual editor who ‘purchases’ a license to the corporate site when buying the franchise
676: [15:05:07] <r3v3rb> or dealership I should say
677: [15:05:32] <r3v3rb> so they get their own login and can translate the headoffice pages or create new ones etc etc
678: [15:06:04] <r3v3rb> in spanish, hebrew, venezuelan etc etc
679: [15:08:00] <wmk> kinglozzer, PHP-FIG, says we'll do PSR formatting some time instead of silverstripe's own code formatting standard?
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681: [15:08:21] <kinglozzer> wmk: No, we don't have any obligation to follow the PSRs
682: [15:08:39] <kinglozzer> We'll almost certainly follow PSR-4 though
683: [15:09:48] <kinglozzer> I'd personally be happy with PSR-2, but I know that a lot of people strongly dislike it, so it'd be publicised and voted on or something if that were being considered
684: [15:09:49] <wmk> oh, namespaces...
685: [15:10:40] <wmk> well, if we can provide the tools for formatting (e.g. via phpstorm plugin) i'm fine with that
686: [15:10:59] <wmk> just make it easy to follow the standard
687: [15:11:37] <kinglozzer> Yeah, that's partly why I'd like it - it's so much easier to get automated formatting tools for PSR-2 than trying to build our own ones...
688: [15:12:49] <wmk> yup
689: [15:16:50] <r3v3rb> gimme gimme gimme
690: [15:18:06] <wmk> wtf are "huggable objects" ?
691: [15:18:10] * r3v3rb finds nearest wall and assumes head position
692: [15:18:28] <kinglozzer> wmk: April Fools joke :P
693: [15:18:59] <wmk> ah, i see....
694: [15:19:41] <r3v3rb> wtf, why does translatable not go directly to the users ‘locale’ when logged in - why does it default to en_GB when they are set as en_US… then ‘Settings’ tab shows Head Office settings not their own! arghhhh
695: [15:21:13] <wmk> r3v3rb, translatable issue? or cms issue?
696: [15:21:28] <r3v3rb> wmk, could be either at the moment, just working on it now
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698: [15:22:17] <r3v3rb> strangely not allowing me to create a translation when logged in as content-author with translate permissions…
699: [15:23:16] <r3v3rb> time to delete users and groups and start again
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702: [15:34:25] <Pyrmnk> wmk: how was holiday?
703: [15:35:15] <wmk> Pyrmnk, nice.
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706: [15:41:55] <SilverMark> Hi all. Is someone able to assist, please? I am using a DataExtension with 'Member' and showing custom information in columns in the GridField. In doing so, none of the custom columns are searchable using the header filters. How do I override the filter? or how do i get access to the GridField config?
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710: [15:49:56] <wmk> !paste SilverMark
711: [15:49:56] <ss-helper> SilverMark: Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
712: [15:50:43] <wmk> so you added your custom columns with SummaryFields() method?
713: [15:54:42] <SilverMark> im only using updateSummaryFields to override the column info at the moment but I wanted to customize the filters so I can search by 'Fullname' or 'Groups' or something: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f8f8f53a9940fbeee118
714: [15:55:03] <SilverMark> Im thinking I could achieve this by creating my own ModelAdmin for Member? Then override it that way?
715: [15:56:02] <kinglozzer> SilverMark: You could apply an extension to SecurityAdmin and use the updateEditForm extension hook
716: [15:56:29] <kinglozzer> That should get you access to the GridField, you can then fetch the config etc from there
717: [15:57:11] <wmk> well, shouldn't $searchable_fields do the trick?
718: [15:57:48] <SilverMark> @kinglozzer thanks - might try that
719: [15:58:06] <SilverMark> @wmk - i tried playing with that but didnt seem to do much. Will try again.
720: [15:58:14] <wmk> just define private static $searchable_fields = [] in your dataextension
721: [15:58:28] <wmk> it's a bit tricky and afaik the other way round than summaryfields...
722: [15:59:23] <wmk> ah, some undocumented stuff:
723: [15:59:24] <wmk> $this->extend('updateSearchableFields', $fields);
724: [16:00:20] <wmk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-DataObject.html#3260
725: [16:01:00] <wmk> kinglozzer, why isn't this part of the DataExtension API, as it's used on DataObjects...?
726: [16:01:41] <kinglozzer> wmk: Not sure, perhaps it was added late and someone didn't realise that DataExtension matches up?
727: [16:02:24] <wmk> worth an issue?
728: [16:04:42] <wmk> kinglozzer, ^^
729: [16:06:51] <kinglozzer> wmk: Sure
730: [16:07:10] <SilverMark> thanks guys - got some things to play with so will go away and try a few things. have a good one!
731: [16:14:51] <r3v3rb> arhhh, progress - ss3 module requires who can edit in settings for each group/locale
732: [16:15:13] <r3v3rb> anyone know the way to remove the save button in ‘settings’ ?
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735: [16:29:49] <Pyrmnk> get CMS actions
736: [16:30:04] <Pyrmnk> ciao!
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753: [19:39:01] <SphereSilver> Utter silence.
754: [19:39:03] <SphereSilver> HELLO!
755: [19:47:19] <cloph> !OLLEH
756: [19:49:05] <SphereSilver> No, you had me at HELO
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764: [20:23:57] <antmas> howdy o/
765: [20:25:17] <kinglozzer> \o antmas
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771: [20:42:12] <helenclarko> o/
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776: [21:03:39] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - what color picker do you use in the CMS?
777: [21:06:33] <Stomach> found it
778: [21:06:34] <Stomach> thanks
779: [21:06:35] <Stomach> :P
780: [21:06:47] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: iris
781: [21:07:15] <Stomach> ta
782: [21:07:44] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/forms/ColorField.php
783: [21:07:59] <Ryan-Toast> https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/templates/forms/ColorField.ss
784: [21:08:11] <Ryan-Toast> https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/javascript/colorpicker.init.js
785: [21:08:20] <Ryan-Toast> https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/javascript/lib/colorpicker.min.js
786: [21:08:27] <Stomach> I TOLD YOU I FOUND IT
787: [21:08:31] <Ryan-Toast> https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/scss/colorpicker.scss
788: [21:08:39] <Ryan-Toast> ONLY REPOS NOW
789: [21:08:49] <Ryan-Toast> https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/css/colorpicker.css
790: [21:08:53] <Stomach> WHY DONT YOU MAKE THAT A STANDALONE MODULE
791: [21:08:56] <Stomach> WOULDNT THAT BE BETTER
792: [21:08:57] <Ryan-Toast> disregard that last one
793: [21:08:58] <Stomach> (YES)
794: [21:09:14] <Ryan-Toast> BECAUSE I DON’T LIKE MY ROOT FOLDER GETTING CLOGGED UP
795: [21:09:37] <DanaeNZ> mommy and daddy stop fighting :*(
796: [21:10:42] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: You’re the reason we don’t love each other any more. I HAD DREAMS
797: [21:10:55] <DanaeNZ> I’M RUNNING AWAY!!!
798: [21:11:05] <Ryan-Toast> YOU GET BACK HERE YOUNG LADY
799: [21:11:13] <Stomach> THEN PUT THEM INTO THE VENDOR FOLDER AND WRITE THE CODE SO SILVERSTRIPE HANDLES THAT NICELY
800: [21:11:28] <Ryan-Toast> STAMOCH: MAYBE I SHOULD DO THAT
801: [21:11:52] <Ryan-Toast> MAYBE I’M WRITING APOST-IT ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW
802: [21:12:00] <Stomach> HAH
803: [21:12:02] <Stomach> LIES
804: [21:12:18] <DanaeNZ> I’M LOOKING AT HIS SCREEN I ONLY SEE IRC
805: [21:13:03] <DanaeNZ> oh, post-it, not post
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808: [21:15:00] <Stomach> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/4254#issuecomment-119207677
809: [21:15:05] <Stomach> simon_w what have you done
810: [21:15:06] <Stomach> lol
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814: [21:20:04] <DanaeNZ> My contributions histroy is looking soooo blank
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816: [21:21:49] <Pyromanik> sminnee! back home?
817: [21:22:00] <Ryan-Toast> ohsnap.gif https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/4254#issuecomment-119280964
818: [21:22:46] <Pyromanik> wut.jpg
819: [21:23:15] <DanaeNZ> what’s a sminnee
820: [21:23:44] <Pyromanik> dabawss
821: [21:24:20] <antmas> LOL
822: [21:24:24] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: sing
823: [21:24:26] <antmas> zing*
824: [21:24:30] <Pyromanik> cam the sensible man.
825: [21:24:41] <antmas> dhensby :P
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827: [21:24:51] <Pyromanik> Also, I did think that same thing (well, foresaw this comment) when I read the logs this afternoon on this subject
828: [21:25:11] <Pyromanik> The point remains, regardless.
829: [21:26:09] <Pyromanik> The same topic was covered around the time of 3.1 (or was it oh?) release I believe. From a point of view between the name of the company vs the name of the project.
830: [21:27:09] <antmas> mm
831: [21:30:35] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: what was that place you got shoes from?
832: [21:31:17] <Pyromanik> Rylko
833: [21:31:24] <Pyromanik> great shoes, do recommend.
834: [21:31:31] * antmas looks up
835: [21:31:31] <antmas> chur
836: [21:31:32] <Pyromanik> Fantastic country too.
837: [21:31:49] <Pyromanik> (I assume you'll need to make a trip to pick them up).
838: [21:31:55] <antmas> :|
839: [21:31:55] <antmas> oh
840: [21:32:44] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Which shoes?
841: [21:32:48] <Ryan-Toast> I have lots of shoes
842: [21:32:59] <antmas> um
843: [21:33:01] <DanaeNZ> I wish I had lots of shoes
844: [21:33:20] <antmas> anything, just I remember you mentioning an online store that had good prices
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847: [21:33:29] <antmas> on like DVS, vans, nike etc
848: [21:33:37] <antmas> maybe it was someone else in here
849: [21:34:26] <Ryan-Toast> Nikes are pretty annoying to get online.
850: [21:34:27] <Pyromanik> I have a pair of shoes. They squeak when it's wet out.
851: [21:34:33] <Ryan-Toast> They never have the ones you want.
852: [21:34:37] <antmas> mm
853: [21:34:45] <antmas> no idea what shoes I want
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855: [21:34:56] <Pyromanik> Then I have dress shoes. Some cunt got blood all over them.
856: [21:35:04] * darjus01 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
857: [21:35:25] <Pyromanik> so I bought 2 more pairs. But I still wear the same old squeaky pair of hockey boots every day.
858: [21:35:43] <Pyromanik> Asics, you squeak like a glove (they're just that badly worn)
859: [21:36:09] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: http://www.theiconic.co.nz/ is where I get my nikes
860: [21:36:29] <Ryan-Toast> Oh god I need dis http://www.theiconic.co.nz/Nike-Suketo-2-Mid-Leather-198193.html
861: [21:37:12] <Pyromanik> Are you a... <stereotypical feministic trait around shopping and shoes collection> person?
862: [21:37:14] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nice cheers. And yeah I'd be keen on those nikes
863: [21:37:22] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: NO, THEY’RE MINE
864: [21:37:24] <Ryan-Toast> :P
865: [21:37:26] <antmas> :P
866: [21:37:35] <Pyromanik> I'm sure they have more than one pair you hipster
867: [21:37:41] <antmas> I actually just need something for work
868: [21:37:46] <Pyromanik> BUT THEN YOU WON'T BE IRONICALLY UNIQUE
869: [21:37:52] <Ryan-Toast> Some of their sale stuff is weird, certain types can only be sold in skate shops and whatnot.
870: [21:41:01] <Pyromanik> Basically I agree with things that were raised yesterday. There should be far more clear definitions between supported and left to rot modules. More clearly labled github accounts would do that.
871: [21:41:03] <Pyromanik> eg labs
872: [21:41:06] <Pyromanik> but... better.
873: [21:41:20] <Pyromanik> core, supported modules, community modules (perhaps).
874: [21:41:28] <Pyromanik> something like that.
875: [21:41:36] <antmas> yeah just a clear separation is all that's needed
876: [21:41:47] <Pyromanik> core and supported modules could probably be the same account. Labs is a bit of a crap name IMO.
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878: [21:42:03] <Pyromanik> And projects need to be moved between the two in a more timely fashion.
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880: [21:42:28] <Pyromanik> But then there are 'fringe cases' where SS gets a bad rap.
881: [21:42:44] <Pyromanik> Translatable is a central example to this topic.
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883: [21:43:06] <Pyromanik> You can't really just go out there with "We don't support it."
884: [21:43:23] <Pyromanik> That'd be like going "Fuck blind people. Tell them to get eyes, then maybe we'll let them use our CMS."
885: [21:43:47] <Pyromanik> It was one of the biggest bugbears at SS-EU that I recall.
886: [21:43:58] <antmas> well it'd be the same if it were handed to the OSS community and they said the same
887: [21:44:00] <Pyromanik> No major presence for credibility, and the translation tools are crap.
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889: [21:44:27] <Pyromanik> One of these things is on the up.
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891: [21:44:44] <Pyromanik> The other sings the same tone deaf tune :<
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893: [21:45:36] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#5289 (3.1 - 31db269 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
894: [21:45:36] <antmas> I feel like that whole discussion is just rude and over zealous
895: [21:45:36] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/d5e594fbd546...31db269f716c
896: [21:45:36] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/69966913
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898: [21:45:43] <Pyromanik> Quite.
899: [21:46:05] <antmas> 'omg the community is dieing and my interest is fucked because of this'
900: [21:46:09] <antmas> type stuff is bs
901: [21:46:09] <Pyromanik> Both sides have points, but both come over too strong.
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903: [21:47:27] <Pyromanik> But this is normal. It's 'oss'. And the internet.
904: [21:48:32] <Pyromanik> Anyway, I ain't got time fo' politics.
905: [21:48:46] <Pyromanik> I do Programming Motherfucker!
906: [21:48:50] <Pyromanik> DO YOU SPEAK IT
907: [21:48:51] <Pyromanik> ?
908: [21:52:25] <Stomach> no
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911: [21:53:28] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/aef8073037d0...6ab151e8fa50
912: [21:53:28] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/69964800
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916: [21:57:47] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: what was that multi menu manager repo?
917: [21:58:06] <Stomach> https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-grouped-cms-menu
918: [21:58:53] <DanaeNZ> churchur
919: [21:59:17] <DanaeNZ> wait i think that’s the wrong one - i mean the frontend menu manager
920: [21:59:23] <DanaeNZ> that’s a thing right?
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924: [21:59:46] <helenclarko> anything like that for tabs on a cms page?
925: [22:00:15] <samlander> hey guys :)
926: [22:00:28] <DanaeNZ> i think it’s this one: https://github.com/i-lateral/silverstripe-custommenus
927: [22:00:35] <DanaeNZ> yo samlander
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930: [22:00:55] <samlander> im super hoping you guys can help me out, got a silly int field not saving to my live table
931: [22:01:09] <samlander> essentially the setup is this ...
932: [22:01:29] <samlander> i've got a couple of int fields in my $db for my page class
933: [22:01:37] <samlander> to store id's of menusets generated elsewhere
934: [22:01:50] <Ryan-Toast> samlander: just paste your whole code, man :)(
935: [22:01:55] <kinglozzer> DanaeNZ: https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager ?
936: [22:02:13] <samlander> k, gimme a sec, you got a paste url of choice?
937: [22:02:17] <samlander> or just pastebin it
938: [22:02:28] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: menumanager or custommenus?
939: [22:02:35] <Ryan-Toast> samlander !paste
940: [22:02:39] <Stomach> oh
941: [22:02:42] <Stomach> menu manager
942: [22:02:43] <DanaeNZ> !paste samlander
943: [22:02:44] <ss-helper> samlander: Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
944: [22:02:49] <Ryan-Toast> zzzz
945: [22:02:51] <Ryan-Toast> zzzzzz
946: [22:02:57] <Ryan-Toast> Always do that the wrong way :P
947: [22:03:04] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: kinglozzer churchur
948: [22:03:07] <Stomach> DanaeNZ - last time Ryan-Toast asked me that I gave him the menu manager and he wanted the other one :(
949: [22:03:20] * DanaeNZ headdesk
950: [22:03:25] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I MAKE MY OWN MENUS. WITH BLACKJACK, AND HOOKERS
951: [22:03:26] <Stomach> you fuckers from the shore
952: [22:03:27] <samlander> http://pastebin.com/RkmtUpRU
953: [22:03:38] <DanaeNZ> we do everything differently here
954: [22:03:58] <Ryan-Toast> samlander: and which is the field not saving?
955: [22:04:05] <samlander> essentially the problem is, the value saves to my HomePage Table fine, doesnt make it into HomePage_Live on publish
956: [22:04:17] <samlander> the headermenusetid and footermenusetid
957: [22:04:17] <Stomach> samlander - instead of having " 'HeaderMenuSetID' => 'int' "
958: [22:04:23] <DanaeNZ> Int not in?
959: [22:04:25] <DanaeNZ> int*
960: [22:04:36] <Stomach> have $has_one(array("HeaderMenuSet" => 'MenuSet'));
961: [22:04:39] <DanaeNZ> +1
962: [22:04:57] <DanaeNZ> oh also
963: [22:05:02] <DanaeNZ> your dropdownfields
964: [22:05:06] <DanaeNZ> the names are wronf
965: [22:05:16] <DanaeNZ> NewHeaderMenuSetID should be HeaderMenuSetID
966: [22:05:33] <DanaeNZ> Line 36 and 42
967: [22:05:47] <samlander> i used those to update in onbeforewrite
968: [22:06:31] <samlander> i'll give the has_one a shot and ditch the onbeforewrite code / rename the dd's
969: [22:06:48] <DanaeNZ> Yeah, the has_one should handle that logic for you
970: [22:08:16] <samlander> if the has one is HeaderMenuSet do i sill use HeaderMenuSetID as my dd name?
971: [22:10:35] <samlander> yes, because that is what the flush built
972: [22:10:38] <samlander> sorry
973: [22:10:42] <samlander> and thank you very much
974: [22:11:32] <samlander> do you ops work for SS out of curiousity?
975: [22:13:41] <antmas> samlander: yup
976: [22:14:02] <samlander> i first learned of your software 2 weeks ago
977: [22:14:10] <samlander> when someone asked me if i knew SS for a job
978: [22:14:37] <samlander> all i have to say is bravo. seriously. best damn cms i've come across as a developer.
979: [22:14:54] <antmas> :D
980: [22:15:47] <samlander> given how well the api is documented, i've been able to pick up a lot (enough to get the job at least) within 2 days of picking it up
981: [22:17:20] <antmas> ah that honeymoon period
982: [22:17:22] <antmas> :D
983: [22:17:31] <samlander> lol
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985: [22:18:03] <samlander> i've been a dev for a long time mate, the featureset of this cms is remarkable given how lightweight it is
986: [22:18:39] <antmas> samlander: php dev specifically?
987: [22:18:47] <samlander> actually microsoft stack
988: [22:18:59] <antmas> samlander: hi5 o/
989: [22:18:59] <samlander> had to re-remember php
990: [22:19:26] <samlander> what got me excited about this, specifically, was the orm
991: [22:19:30] <samlander> im used to using linq in c#
992: [22:19:53] <antmas> mm same here
993: [22:20:02] <antmas> was a bit of a breath of fresh air ;)
994: [22:20:04] <samlander> so being able to use something similar here was a god send
995: [22:20:34] <antmas> samlander: what sort of C# projects are you used to doing?
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997: [22:21:49] <antmas> I do 70% in .net, 20% in php (ss) and 10% ruby
998: [22:22:46] <helenclarko> damn! just tried to refresh IRC, missed seeing activity for a minute :'(
999: [22:24:20] <Pyromanik> helenclarko, get proper client! :>
1000: [22:25:32] <helenclarko> Ha, Im just an idiot who thinks refreshing the page will help.
1001: [22:26:05] <helenclarko> Whats a good client?
1002: [22:26:24] <hamror> irssi
1003: [22:26:56] <Ryan-Toast> I like Colloquy, because I can edit the CSS :P
1004: [22:27:17] <Pyromanik> hehe, hamror with fantastic troll (for new users at least)
1005: [22:27:23] <Pyromanik> but yes, irssi fantastic client.
1006: [22:27:29] <Pyromanik> I use hexchat personally.
1007: [22:27:40] <hamror> troll?
1008: [22:27:50] <Pyromanik> since xchat windows went full retard
1009: [22:27:51] <hamror> we have different software tastes that's all
1010: [22:27:56] <Ryan-Toast> I use hexxchat when I’m on my Windows PC
1011: [22:28:11] <Pyromanik> hamror, no, see second part of same statement.
1012: [22:28:16] <Ryan-Toast> Windows PC Computer. DJ Hardtec
1013: [22:28:18] <helenclarko> I think its about time I got an irc client.
1014: [22:28:24] <Pyromanik> yup.
1015: [22:28:28] <Ryan-Toast> dorp the mother ucking beat, dog.
1016: [22:28:41] <Pyromanik> dawwwwgeeeeeys
1017: [22:29:55] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
1018: [22:30:00] <Kingy> morning
1019: [22:32:02] <Kingy> antmas: there has been a lack of colin lately, where's he at
1020: [22:32:55] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Hasn’t posted on FB in a while.
1021: [22:33:04] <Kingy> dead?
1022: [22:33:08] <Ryan-Toast> dead.
1023: [22:33:16] <samlander> antmas: just finished a 2 1/2 year stint at Replicon on a huge bastardized version of c# mvc application (1.5 Million users)
1024: [22:33:33] <samlander> and im currently writing a web app in mvc for a paralegal company
1025: [22:33:41] <samlander> as well as any side web work that i can get
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1027: [22:33:50] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: something about a poor kid on the 2nd july
1028: [22:34:12] <samlander> but i've used c# for pretty much every type of application, asp.net mvc/razor, winforms, wpf, and used mono for mobile
1029: [22:34:20] <samlander> bbiab, gotta go grab my wife
1030: [22:34:37] <DanaeNZ> grab her where? :D
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1035: [22:35:56] <hamror> what does in mvc mean, has someone taken an old UI programming concept and repurposed the name for some framework?
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1038: [22:39:03] <Kingy> lol DanaeNZ nice try
1039: [22:39:24] <DanaeNZ> i’d say a pretty successful try
1040: [22:40:12] <Kingy> anyone no any decent jquery sliders similar to this one: http://www.queness.com/resources/html/jcarousel/index.html
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1046: [22:43:40] <Pyromanik> hamror, was just about to ask that same thing 0,-
1047: [22:43:47] <Stomach> Kingy - no jquery!
1048: [22:43:57] <Pyromanik> Kingy, Cycle2
1049: [22:44:04] <Pyromanik> the only 'slider' you need. EVER.
1050: [22:44:19] * Kingy looks
1051: [22:44:29] <Kingy> Stomach: why not
1052: [22:44:30] <Pyromanik> Unless you're talking about carousel. In which case, use jcarousel.
1053: [22:44:35] <Pyromanik> But from the proper source.
1054: [22:44:35] <Stomach> jquery bad
1055: [22:44:45] <Pyromanik> Stomach, zepto kinda guy?
1056: [22:44:47] <Kingy> you're bad
1057: [22:44:50] <helenclarko> still using original cycle. Does everything I need.
1058: [22:44:51] <Stomach> no zepto!
1059: [22:45:03] <Pyromanik> Or with me in the vanillajs.org camp?
1060: [22:45:20] <irogue> for things like sliders that are fucking simple, there's no damn reason not to use vanilla js
1061: [22:45:32] <Pyromanik> ah fuck, it's vanilla-js.com
1062: [22:45:42] <Pyromanik> helenclarko, No it doesn't!
1063: [22:45:47] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: do you have a slider that doesn’t use jQuery?
1064: [22:45:52] <Stomach> yeah
1065: [22:45:57] <Ryan-Toast> Which one?
1066: [22:46:04] <irogue> i'm not against js frameworks, but if basic things like sliders/carousels just stick to vanilla js then it doesn't matter which framework you use
1067: [22:46:06] <Pyromanik> (well yeah, it does. But seriously, move with the times! Cycle2 is responsive or something)
1068: [22:46:09] <helenclarko> Pyromanik: haha, I know its terrible.
1069: [22:46:24] <Pyromanik> and finger usable
1070: [22:46:25] <Stomach> lg-carousel
1071: [22:46:26] <Pyromanik> etc
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1073: [22:46:48] <irogue> "finger usable" ;)
1074: [22:46:54] <Stomach> irogue - the issue is finding one of those
1075: [22:46:59] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: this? https://github.com/agrishun/carousel
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1077: [22:47:02] <helenclarko> Pyromanik, Its touch?
1078: [22:47:17] * catcher quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1079: [22:47:19] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - nope, internal one
1080: [22:47:28] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Ah, littlegiant carousel ><
1081: [22:47:30] <Ryan-Toast> right
1082: [22:47:37] <irogue> Stomach: I know - that's what I'm complaining about. I don't understand why the authors of such libraries insist on all using some form of JS framework for what is absurdly simple
1083: [22:47:41] <Ryan-Toast> TIME TO SCRAPE YOUR WEBSITE
1084: [22:47:59] <Ryan-Toast> irogue: because easy.
1085: [22:48:03] <Ryan-Toast> easier**
1086: [22:48:04] <Pyromanik> helenclarko, yes, works on tablets/phones/phablets
1087: [22:48:07] <Pyromanik> etf
1088: [22:48:09] <Pyromanik> etc*
1089: [22:48:15] <Pyromanik> touchscreen computers too I guess
1090: [22:48:17] <Pyromanik> idk
1091: [22:48:20] <Pyromanik> google cycle2
1092: [22:48:23] <Pyromanik> see.
1093: [22:48:33] <helenclarko> Alright, time to update.
1094: [22:48:36] <Pyromanik> It's legit. No more need for JS either. Just include it.
1095: [22:48:45] <Pyromanik> Define your sliders with data attributes.
1096: [22:48:51] <Pyromanik> automagic!
1097: [22:49:21] <Pyromanik> Plus has more and bettterer transitions
1098: [22:49:30] <irogue> I'd even be okay with folks writing libraries like that in jqlite, cos the methods in jqlite are cross-compatible in a large number of jquery-like frameworks
1099: [22:50:40] <helenclarko> Pyromanik, This is crazy cool, looks too easy haha.
1100: [22:51:04] <marvanni> hm.. should I really do this to get 1 item from a SQLQuery ? $sqlQuery->firstRow()->execute()->first();
1101: [22:51:10] <Pyromanik> helenclarko, yeh, it's the magics. I never used any other slider ever (when I was a web dev, like 2 years ago).
1102: [22:51:21] <marvanni> as efficient as possible…
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1104: [22:51:41] <Stomach> data attributes
1105: [22:51:42] <Stomach> sigh
1106: [22:51:44] <Pyromanik> seems... idk.
1107: [22:51:49] <Pyromanik> Stomach, YOU SIGH
1108: [22:51:51] <Pyromanik> GOSH
1109: [22:52:08] <Pyromanik> jQuery AND data-attributes WACHOO GON DO?
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1111: [22:52:13] <Pyromanik> dealwithit.gif
1112: [22:52:15] <Stomach> not use them
1113: [22:52:15] <Stomach> :)
1114: [22:52:17] <Pyromanik> xD
1115: [22:52:24] <Pyromanik> fuck, it's midnight :<
1116: [22:52:25] <irogue> hrmmm, I purchased some DVDs of my favourite NZ tv show. plan to rip them into my plex library. just encountered one issue.
1117: [22:52:35] <irogue> I forgot that not a single computing device I own has an optical drive
1118: [22:52:39] <Pyromanik> hahhaahah
1119: [22:52:43] <Pyromanik> winner, it is you.
1120: [22:52:46] <Ryan-Toast> My slider is getting a little unrully: https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/code/Modules/Slider/templates/Includes/Slider.ss
1121: [22:52:59] <Ryan-Toast> unruly**
1122: [22:53:00] <Pyromanik> irogue, time for a usb3 optical thing?
1123: [22:53:26] <Pyromanik> your face is an unruly slider Ryan-Toast
1124: [22:53:39] <irogue> Pyromanik: eh, there's probably a spare iMac around here
1125: [22:53:54] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Please press next for new face
1126: [22:54:17] <Pyromanik> neg
1127: [22:54:23] <Pyromanik> wind's changed bro.
1128: [22:54:27] <Pyromanik> you're fucked.
1129: [22:55:02] <Ryan-Toast> NOOOOO
1130: [22:55:05] <irogue> I remember now that last time I needed an optical drive (to burn Audio CDs as my car only has a CD changer not an Aux in) I used my coworker's iMac in the Akl office
1131: [22:55:41] <Pyromanik> probably my second favourite website after www.something.com - vanilla-js.com
1132: [22:57:16] <Pyromanik> So I was thinking about poor JS lately.
1133: [22:58:05] <Pyromanik> and how it's pretty much a mutant deformity that it's parents crippled on birth in order to cater for the moronic peasants that couldn't get their heads around prototypal inheritance.
1134: [22:58:21] <Pyromanik> fuck'n new ActuallyAFactoryMethod()
1135: [22:58:29] <Pyromanik> honestly, what the fuck.
1136: [22:58:42] <Pyromanik> classes aren't a thing.
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1138: [22:58:58] <Pyromanik> Now they're at it again making it fucking worse because morons still can't get it.
1139: [22:59:04] <Pyromanik> even though they got given Object.create
1140: [22:59:43] <Pyromanik> so now there's going to be actual syntactic sugar so we can have 'class MotherFucker extends WhatTheFuckIsThisShit'
1141: [23:00:36] <Pyromanik> and with that little rage nugget, it's time to get what precious little sleep I do each night before waking up at 4am going "THE FUCK CAN'T I SLEEP!?"
1142: [23:00:43] <irogue> haha
1143: [23:00:44] <irogue> nn Pyromanik
1144: [23:00:48] <Pyromanik> until it's time for work
1145: [23:01:07] <Pyromanik> averaging 3 hours a night for like 2 months now :<
1146: [23:01:29] <Pyromanik> nn irogue xoxxo
1147: [23:01:31] <Pyromanik> xD
1148: [23:01:44] <Pyromanik> dem wimminz and their emails, idek.
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1151: [23:02:25] <Colin[pi]> morning all o/
1152: [23:02:48] <DanaeNZ> oh hey look who it is
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1154: [23:02:52] <DanaeNZ> we thought you died
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1156: [23:04:15] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: lol, also known as "school holidays started and grandma didn't arrive yet"
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1159: [23:05:49] <DanaeNZ> the traffic has been particularly quiet in the ‘burbs
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1162: [23:07:46] <irogue> Today is an official half-work day in Samoa - no one is required to do anything other than watch the rugby and store their own memories about the test they said would never happen.
1163: [23:08:03] <samlander> asp.net has evolved to have their own MVC framework
1164: [23:08:19] <samlander> they are a few versions deep now
1165: [23:08:28] <Kingy> irogue: pretty much the same here as well :)
1166: [23:08:58] <DanaeNZ> sprots?
1167: [23:09:06] <DanaeNZ> they sprotsing hard?
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1169: [23:09:46] <irogue> DanaeNZ: will be. actually a pretty awesome and historic thing.
1170: [23:09:53] <Kingy> apparently an aussie has mad cow disease
1171: [23:09:55] <DanaeNZ> what’s happening?
1172: [23:10:02] <adrexia> hi guys
1173: [23:10:06] <DanaeNZ> yoyo
1174: [23:10:08] <Kingy> DanaeNZ: nz vs samoa in samoa
1175: [23:10:10] <irogue> DanaeNZ: All Blacks playing in Samoa. First time ever
1176: [23:10:21] <DanaeNZ> i feel like i should know this
1177: [23:10:24] <DanaeNZ> but i don’t
1178: [23:10:30] <adrexia> first time ever?
1179: [23:10:35] <adrexia> what took them so long?
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1181: [23:10:40] <irogue> rugby is of course huge there, and a ton of samoans are in the ABs, so it means a lot to samoa
1182: [23:10:43] <Kingy> adrexia: what everyone is saying
1183: [23:10:51] <simon_w|air> adrexia, my guess is racism
1184: [23:11:00] <Kingy> more like $
1185: [23:11:23] <irogue> yeah, not enough $$ there. john campbell started a campaign to make it happen though, and here it is
1186: [23:11:35] <adrexia> racism by the All blacks who have had a lot of players from samoa
1187: [23:11:42] <adrexia> seems... unlikely
1188: [23:11:45] <irogue> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11477490
1189: [23:11:45] <Kingy> why play a PI nation when you can play one of the EU teams
1190: [23:12:04] <adrexia> well, don't people sometimes play sport for fun?
1191: [23:12:12] <Kingy> adrexia: unfortunately not anymore
1192: [23:12:16] <adrexia> :-/
1193: [23:12:20] <adrexia> oh so combination
1194: [23:12:21] <Kingy> all bout dem dolla dolla bills
1195: [23:12:27] <adrexia> old school - racism
1196: [23:12:30] <adrexia> current - money
1197: [23:12:38] <Kingy> about right yeah
1198: [23:12:46] <adrexia> old school were racist but played sport for fun
1199: [23:12:49] <adrexia> :D
1200: [23:13:03] <irogue> In the 2007 World Cup there were 14 New Zealand-born players in the Samoan squad, and five Samoan-born players in the New Zealand squad.
1201: [23:13:38] <Kingy> lol
1202: [23:13:41] <Kingy> seems randomly wrong
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1204: [23:13:45] <adrexia> yeah, we're pretty tightly intangled. Despite being a long long way away frorm each other
1205: [23:14:27] <samlander> what network is this? dalnet?
1206: [23:14:47] <Stomach> freenode
1207: [23:14:50] <Stomach> dalnet!
1208: [23:14:55] <adrexia> :D
1209: [23:14:55] <Stomach> man those were the days
1210: [23:15:16] <irogue> Kingy: there's almost as many samoans in NZ as there are in Samoa, so it's not too surprising
1211: [23:15:30] <Kingy> yeah that's ture
1212: [23:15:33] <Kingy> true
1213: [23:16:17] <helenclarko> so the game is today?
1214: [23:16:22] <irogue> yep
1215: [23:16:51] <helenclarko> what time and where is the stream I can hide at work?
1216: [23:17:35] <Kingy> 2pm i think
1217: [23:17:51] <Kingy> there will be a stream somewhere surely
1218: [23:18:07] <helenclarko> I'll let you all know if I find one.
1219: [23:18:55] <Kingy> just keep looking at streamsports.me
1220: [23:19:48] <helenclarko> http://firstrowau.eu/sport/rugby.html
1221: [23:19:53] <helenclarko> done haha
1222: [23:20:02] <Kingy> http://www.stream2watch.co/sports/rugby/samoa-vs-new-zealand-live-stream-july-08
1223: [23:20:05] <Kingy> that one there as well
1224: [23:20:17] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: o/
1225: [23:20:23] <Kingy> Colin[pi] heyyy
1226: [23:21:31] <simon_w|air> Bah, performance review day
1227: [23:21:57] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: YOU FIRED
1228: [23:22:06] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1229: [23:30:54] <Stomach> "you made everything too easy so now you're fired"
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1231: [23:37:48] <antmas> Kingy: Colin[pi] o/
1232: [23:37:52] <Colin[pi]> antmas: o/
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1234: [23:44:37] <samlande> ah better
1235: [23:44:42] <samlande> cant stand web irc
1236: [23:45:03] <samlande> been awhile since i used mirc though :x
1237: [23:45:34] <Stomach> I miss polaris irc
1238: [23:45:50] <samlande> cant remember what i used when i was a linux nerd
1239: [23:48:15] * samlander quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1240: [23:48:26] * samlande is now known as samlander
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1243: [23:49:27] <samlander> does anyone else get screwed up api pages ?
1244: [23:49:56] <irogue> samlander: got a URL?
1245: [23:50:05] <samlander> https://docs.silverstripe.org/en/4.0/developer_guides/model/
1246: [23:50:08] <Colin[pi]> samlander: use http
1247: [23:50:18] <irogue> ah yeah thats docs not api :P
1248: [23:50:26] <samlander> ah
1249: [23:50:28] <irogue> if you'd said docs i'd have known to say not to use https ;)
1250: [23:50:29] <samlander> that did it
1251: [23:50:49] <irogue> I pushed a fix for that yesterday, should go live soon
1252: [23:50:49] <samlander> when is 4.0 due?
1253: [23:50:50] <hamror> samlander: google was spammed with version 4 docs, and to make matters worse, the https wasn't even configured right so those urls are all jacked
1254: [23:50:59] <samlander> lol
1255: [23:51:00] <samlander> dang
1256: [23:51:09] <hamror> been annoying me for a while
1257: [23:51:15] <hamror> i've given up and gone back to joomla
1258: [23:51:21] <samlander> send the intern to do page removals from their index and kick his ass for not setting nofollow on robots.txt
1259: [23:51:23] <samlander> xD
1260: [23:51:23] <hamror> (jokes)
1261: [23:51:54] <irogue> hamror: nothing wrong with the https configuration, the issue is that there was hardcoded http addresses referenced instead of protocolless
1262: [23:51:57] <samlander> is too bad you guys dont have a canadian office
1263: [23:52:10] <samlander> i could see myself having a lot of fun working for a cms company
1264: [23:52:15] <hamror> irogue: the real issue is that v4 docs are spamming google
1265: [23:52:25] <hamror> from a punters perspective
1266: [23:53:12] <DanaeNZ> hamror: agree, in google right now it’s either the 4.0 docs or the 2.4 docs that come up
1267: [23:53:33] <samlander> im curious how the company makes money
1268: [23:53:41] <hamror> dance parties
1269: [23:53:46] <samlander> rock on
1270: [23:53:46] <DanaeNZ> samlander: they are also an agency that makes bespoke sites
1271: [23:53:47] <irogue> hamror, DanaeNZ: gonna fix that now
1272: [23:53:59] <hamror> cheers i had a piss and moan about it a couple of weeks ago
1273: [23:54:22] * cloph is now known as cloph_away
1274: [23:54:23] <irogue> thoughts on whether 3.2 should be indexed?
1275: [23:54:24] <Colin[pi]> irogue to da rescue
1276: [23:54:37] <irogue> or just stable
1277: [23:54:38] <Stomach> irogue yes
1278: [23:54:38] <Stomach> ?
1279: [23:54:40] <DanaeNZ> irogue: Yeah
1280: [23:55:08] <samlander> i think if you guys made a c# port of this i'd probably flip my shiz
1281: [23:55:55] <samlander> but i've gotten much to comfortable with just one language so its nice to flex my php muscles for a bit
1282: [23:56:02] <antmas> samlander: I was doign that towards the end of last year :P
1283: [23:56:09] <samlander> doh
1284: [23:56:40] <Colin[pi]> samlander: I find SS good enough to tolerate PHP's bullshit
1285: [23:56:45] <antmas> lol
1286: [23:56:51] <samlander> i have to agree
1287: [23:56:57] <samlander> i was using composite c1 for a while
1288: [23:57:12] <samlander> it was the closest competitor product in the c# sphere i can think of
1289: [23:57:22] <samlander> but it's admin interface was a bit wank
1290: [23:57:22] <antmas> samlander: you done any sharepoint stuff?
1291: [23:57:25] <samlander> not yet
1292: [23:57:45] <samlander> but my current client (a design company) has need of someone soon so im going on a learn-a-thon
1293: [23:57:54] <samlander> i pick up technologies rediculously fast
1294: [23:57:55] <antmas> glhf :P
1295: [23:58:10] <antmas> sharepoint for me has been by far the most difficult to pickup
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1297: [23:58:26] <Colin[pi]> antmas: there are support groups, right? ;P
1298: [23:58:36] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol yeah
1299: [23:58:55] <antmas> pretty sure there is a /r/ for sharepointdevelopersanonymous
1300: [23:59:11] <irogue> anything else I need to fix for docs while I'm in there? :P
1301: [23:59:12] <Colin[pi]> antmas: my former colleague works with it now, errrytime I talk to him he opens with: "fucking sharepoint man..."
1302: [23:59:25] <antmas> "It's been 3 weeks since my client asked me for a new webpart for 2010"
1303: [23:59:39] <antmas> lol
1304: [23:59:58] <antmas> It has been teaching me some ReactJS though

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