#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 5 July 2015

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6: [00:40:18] <ss-helper> Re: Technical issues with SilverStripe forums - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/0xtrmhG9Gdk/BqS7YoNnD2sJ
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62: [14:45:44] <DimiStripe> Hey, if anyone is aive - whats the best way of moving file to another folder together creating that folder ? (I'm uploading to /assests/tempuploads via ajax for now, and need putting final files to other folders (create new folder or use existing) depending on what comes from the form later on)
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73: [17:04:08] <Sphere> Hmmm, due to a complete crash, I've lost my freenode password. How do I reset? My expected password doesn't work :(
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95: [21:07:52] <Stomach> hi DanaeNZ
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98: [21:12:05] <DanaeNZ> monday sux
99: [21:12:07] <Ryan-Toast> Morning, guys.
100: [21:12:28] <Stomach> yeah it does
101: [21:12:44] <Ryan-Toast> Tuesday < Monday
102: [21:13:49] <antmas> morning all o/
103: [21:13:58] <Ryan-Toast> \o
104: [21:14:24] <SphereSilver> Sunday here, but back to work tomorrow after being crappily sick for almost a week :(
105: [21:14:40] <antmas> man is everyone sick?
106: [21:14:47] <Ryan-Toast> I started playing Terarria over the weekend. So fun.
107: [21:14:48] * antmas was sick last week
108: [21:15:04] <SphereSilver> Not anymore! I think... Besides having a bad blood-disease-caused rash :X
109: [21:15:28] <antmas> SphereSilver: I remember you mentioning that a while back :O
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111: [21:15:51] <SphereSilver> Yeah, no fun, neither is a week of sickness, but I'm pretty much ok now :D
112: [21:16:00] <antmas> \o/
113: [21:16:11] <SphereSilver> So, finally back to work tomorrow! :D
114: [21:16:27] <SphereSilver> I'm actually excited to go back to work.... I might be sick :P
115: [21:17:29] <SphereSilver> Hey camfindlay, you awake? Contact me via e-mail asap about the EU conference?
116: [21:19:30] <antmas> I need to some new clothes
117: [21:19:40] <antmas> all my clothes are 'business causual ' :S
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119: [21:26:29] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: silverstripe-browsersupport is a private repo?
120: [21:26:52] <Stomach> yaaa
121: [21:26:53] <Stomach> ?
122: [21:27:02] <Ryan-Toast> Just wondering :)
123: [21:27:15] <Ryan-Toast> You checking browser with js, or witht he html class?
124: [21:27:18] <Stomach> can probably make it open source if you want, but its kind of fiddly
125: [21:27:24] <Stomach> with the HTML class
126: [21:27:29] <Ryan-Toast> Sweet.
127: [21:27:37] <Stomach> and then javascript :P
128: [21:27:45] <Ryan-Toast> Thinking of dropping IE8, but will need to make something like that.
129: [21:29:12] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: didn't you already drop IE8?
130: [21:29:24] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Nah.
131: [21:29:35] <Ryan-Toast> Not officially anyhow.
132: [21:29:41] <antmas> ;)
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134: [21:31:04] <SphereSilver> Er?
135: [21:31:34] <DimiStripe> Hi all . will ask again - whats the best way of moving file to another folder together creating that folder ? (I'm uploading to /assests/tempuploads via ajax for now, and need putting final files to other folders (create new folder or use existing) depending on what comes from the form later on) ? STill looking for solution
136: [21:32:29] <SphereSilver> Default files management is able to do that. But if you want drag-and-drop of files, maybe have a look at UncleCheese's assets replacement?
137: [21:32:56] <Hailwood> Hi Folks, Does anyone know why swipestripe has a ProductCategory_Extension in the same file where is defines ProductCategory? Why not just make the modifications to ProductCategory directly?
138: [21:33:07] <SphereSilver> Also, another option is to create the folders manually and put the files in. After that, sync the file-table and then use the files.
139: [21:34:53] <SphereSilver> Hailwood: Errrr, what version of SwipeStripe?
140: [21:35:15] <SphereSilver> I can't find anything about ProductCategory_Extension on the github repo
141: [21:38:00] <DimiStripe> SphereSilver: this is code based moving of file. I'm already creating folders, however cant find standart method for moving file . I guess standard php rename , and then updating path for that file, but wondering if theres anything standart for this
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143: [21:39:00] <SphereSilver> DimiStripe: Not really. Best you can do is, if it exists, have it moved using the framework, thereby updating the path and save it. There's no "best" method here I guess.
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145: [21:42:15] <zippy> Alright math boffins, here is a one for Monday morning :)
146: [21:42:24] <zippy> 100 + 10% = 110
147: [21:42:32] <SphereSilver> It's Sunday night zippy ;)
148: [21:42:33] <zippy> but, how can I reverse that
149: [21:42:40] <SphereSilver> Ow, that's easy!
150: [21:42:41] <zippy> 110 - x = 100
151: [21:42:58] <antmas> x = 10
152: [21:43:00] * antmas wins
153: [21:43:01] <zippy> lol
154: [21:43:03] <antmas> FATALITY
155: [21:43:22] <zippy> 10% is user customizeable.
156: [21:43:25] <SphereSilver> total / (percentage + (percentage of whatever)) * 100
157: [21:43:36] <zippy> percentage of whatever ?
158: [21:43:50] <SphereSilver> If you know the customizeable, it's an easy calculation ;)
159: [21:44:03] <zippy> yes, so I know the customizeation
160: [21:44:15] <zippy> so if we say 110 / (10% + (what)) * 100
161: [21:44:23] <SphereSilver> No.
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163: [21:44:43] <SphereSilver> You say 110 / (100 + Customization)
164: [21:44:44] <zippy> 110 / (0.1 + (what)) * 100
165: [21:44:48] <antmas> zippy: you left a math question for monday morning?
166: [21:44:56] <zippy> where is the 100 coming from?
167: [21:45:03] <zippy> in the reverse we only know 110 and 10%
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169: [21:45:10] <SphereSilver> 100 is the starting point
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171: [21:45:35] <SphereSilver> if the customer pays 110%, 100% is the starting, 10% is the extra
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173: [21:46:25] <zippy> lets try some different numbers so we don't get confused with 100 for 100% :)
174: [21:46:31] <zippy> 10 + 10% = 11
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176: [21:46:56] <zippy> 11 - x = 10 (what I want) but 10 here is not known
177: [21:46:58] <antmas> zippy: go on
178: [21:46:59] <zippy> all I know is 11 and 10%
179: [21:47:15] <SphereSilver> Well, that's easy!
180: [21:47:29] <antmas> so you mean 11 - x = y (10 being unknown) ?
181: [21:47:31] <Kingy> \o/
182: [21:47:39] <zippy> 10% of 11 = 1.11 so it ends up being 9.9 which isn't right
183: [21:47:40] <Kingy> I'm in the land of aus
184: [21:47:52] <SphereSilver> 11 == Original * ( 110 )
185: [21:48:05] <zippy> I don't know the original thou, that is what I am trying to work out
186: [21:48:07] <SphereSilver> Original is now just an equation ;)
187: [21:48:12] <zippy> lol
188: [21:48:15] <zippy> yea, which is what
189: [21:48:56] <SphereSilver> 11/110 == 0.1
190: [21:49:04] <Hailwood> SphereSilver, https://github.com/swipestripe/silverstripe-swipestripe-category/blob/2.1/code/ProductCategory.php#L165
191: [21:49:51] <SphereSilver> Recalculate to cents, or hundreds, or whatever, but your calculation is off, due to not using the same base.
192: [21:50:44] <SphereSilver> Hailwood: I wouldn't know.... I even find it stupid to have so much classes in one file ;)
193: [21:51:12] <Hailwood> SphereSilver, Actually I just realized, that extension gets applied to Product to add ProductCategory support
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195: [21:51:41] <SphereSilver> Hailwood: Could be. Yet, it doesn't make sense if it's in the same module ;)
196: [21:51:43] <zippy> ok, so that works with 10. lets try 150 :) 150 + 10% = 165. 165 - (165/11) = 15 = 150
197: [21:51:44] <zippy> hnn
198: [21:51:48] <Hailwood> I probably would have named it Product_ProductCategoriesExtension... but meh
199: [21:51:50] <SphereSilver> If it's the same module, why extend on yourself.
200: [21:52:07] <SphereSilver> zippy: That means, reduct 15
201: [21:52:14] <Hailwood> SphereSilver, Product is from the main swipestripe, productCategory is from the extra moduile. I'm getting it now.
202: [21:52:15] <zippy> yea
203: [21:52:22] <antmas> zippy: there you go :P
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205: [21:52:26] <SphereSilver> The problem you're having, is you're not using the same base for every number ;)
206: [21:52:41] <SphereSilver> base10 on a 100 == 1
207: [21:52:44] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] "Out-of-the-box" CMS Bugs in 3.2 - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/rf97JMuo0jU/VRB6tcAsbbgJ
208: [21:52:47] <antmas> Kingy: over for holiday?
209: [21:52:58] <irogue_> mornin' y'all
210: [21:53:05] <antmas> irogue_: o/
211: [21:53:06] <adrexia_> morning
212: [21:53:08] <SphereSilver> but your calculations are based on base10 on a 10 == 1 as well as base10 on a 1000 == 1
213: [21:53:11] <antmas> adrexia_: o/
214: [21:53:12] <Stomach> hey irogue_
215: [21:53:14] <SphereSilver> Hey micmania1
216: [21:53:17] <adrexia_> \o/
217: [21:53:18] <Kingy> antmas: yep, 6 weeks
218: [21:53:24] <SphereSilver> hey irogue_ , you're not dead? :D
219: [21:53:24] <micmania1> areeeet
220: [21:53:29] <SphereSilver> Yay, that calls for a party!
221: [21:53:31] <antmas> Kingy: :O auckland at all?
222: [21:53:38] <adrexia_> SphereSilver did you send an assassin?
223: [21:53:40] <Kingy> welly for 1 week
224: [21:53:53] <SphereSilver> adrexia_ I tried, but he was asking too much :(
225: [21:53:59] <antmas> oh wait
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227: [21:54:05] <antmas> I'm in auckland end of august
228: [21:54:11] * antmas deflates
229: [21:54:21] <SphereSilver> You can deflate???!!!!
230: [21:54:21] <adrexia_> yeah, they tend to be pretty expensive these days. Bout the same as a website even
231: [21:54:33] <SphereSilver> yeah. Sucks :(
232: [21:55:35] <SphereSilver> I mean, even someone as easy as Obama nowadays costs in the millions :(
233: [21:55:52] <Stomach> antmas - beers!
234: [21:55:52] <Stomach> :D
235: [21:55:59] <SphereSilver> If I don't react anytime soon, I'm probably out explaining this joke to the FBI :P
236: [21:56:11] <antmas> Stomach: yup, dead keen for that
237: [21:56:18] <Stomach> deflated
238: [21:56:19] <Stomach> dead
239: [21:56:21] <Stomach> bad morning?
240: [21:56:25] <antmas> Stomach: :P
241: [21:56:30] <irogue_> SphereSilver: I am in fact not dead!
242: [21:56:37] <zippy> SphereSilver: ok so. 80 * 1.15 = 92.
243: [21:56:41] <irogue_> just in an entirely different city than I was before :P
244: [21:57:01] <antmas> kinda, my week turned from free-time to 'oh good other devs are on week break so I'm on triple duties' \o/
245: [21:57:27] <zippy> 92-(92/15)=85.86 - where my % of 15 is * by 100 to change the base.
246: [21:57:36] <antmas> one of them didn't check their changes into TFS
247: [21:57:45] * antmas overwrites all the things
248: [21:57:50] <Stomach> zippy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VaPySxlvQ
249: [21:58:29] <antmas> Stomach: the title of that video is harder than the math
250: [21:58:40] <Stomach> LD
251: [21:59:00] <antmas> anyone else doing Dry July?
252: [21:59:25] <zippy> Stomach: yea but it's not that easy. I am not trying to find 7% of 500. I am trying to find 7% of what + what = 500
253: [21:59:42] <Stomach> oh does that video not show that
254: [21:59:44] <zippy> ie, if you buy something for $100 and you paid 15% gst. what was the original price
255: [21:59:58] <irogue_> antmas: f that :P
256: [22:00:14] <SphereSilver> zippy: So 92 / 115 * 100 == 80
257: [22:00:26] <antmas> irogue_: :P my first time, doing it for pre-training
258: [22:00:43] <zippy> SphereSilver: indeed it is..
259: [22:00:43] <irogue_> pre-training?
260: [22:00:52] <zippy> your math foo is strong
261: [22:01:28] <antmas> irogue_: physical training, drinking ONLY water for 1 month, then into calisthenics
262: [22:01:34] <irogue_> ahh
263: [22:01:35] <irogue_> exercise
264: [22:01:36] <irogue_> f that
265: [22:01:40] <antmas> LOL
266: [22:01:40] <antmas> :P
267: [22:01:55] <antmas> I did the water for one month thing once
268: [22:02:03] <Stomach> for NZ zippy you just divide by 23 or something
269: [22:02:11] <Stomach> :D
270: [22:02:13] <antmas> makes you feel like $1,000,000 but your soul gets left behind
271: [22:02:16] * Stomach is unhelpful
272: [22:02:21] <zippy> Stomach: yeap, but the % is unknown :) could be 15 or 10 or 9
273: [22:02:39] <zippy> well, it's known but not unchangeable
274: [22:02:40] <antmas> zippy: it's like you need a constant or something
275: [22:02:46] <antmas> constant is a math word right?
276: [22:03:29] <antmas> 'onomatopoeia'
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278: [22:04:12] <irogue_> morning camfindlay
279: [22:04:26] <camfindlay> morning o/
280: [22:05:28] <antmas> zippy: it gon' get cold tonight
281: [22:05:38] <zippy> tomorrow isn't it?
282: [22:05:39] <zippy> -2
283: [22:05:50] <antmas> it'll start later tonight
284: [22:05:53] <antmas> me reckons
285: [22:08:23] <zippy> SphereSilver: 80 * 1.15 = 92. 92 / 1.15 = 80. I guess thats just basic maths there isn't it. x * y = c. then either c / y = x or c / y = x or c / x = y
286: [22:08:55] <SphereSilver> You want me, to make logical calculations, at 1AM?
287: [22:09:55] <zippy> Well you if you take the result of a multiplication and divide it by one of the things you get the other thing
288: [22:10:23] * zippy could be a math teacher which references like 'things'
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294: [22:21:34] <Kingy> now it sucks being in the same timezone as work
295: [22:21:40] <irogue_> haha
296: [22:21:41] <Kingy> they can contact me too easily
297: [22:22:16] <Kingy> how you going irogue_?
298: [22:23:35] <irogue_> Kingy: all good. dunno if you heard but I live in Wellington now
299: [22:23:48] <Kingy> ohh no I didn't hear
300: [22:23:51] <Kingy> still with SS?
301: [22:23:52] <SphereSilver> "Take a last look around while you're alive"
302: [22:23:59] * SphereSilver <3 Disturbed
303: [22:25:20] <antmas> that's what I say every monday morning when I know I'm on sharepoint for a week
304: [22:25:42] <irogue_> Kingy: yup
305: [22:25:45] <irogue_> just in the wellington office
306: [22:26:22] <Kingy> lol antmas, still rocking the sharepoint
307: [22:26:33] <SphereSilver> And you didn't come to the Amsterdam Redlight District meetup irogue_ ?
308: [22:26:40] <SphereSilver> I are disappointed.
309: [22:27:39] <irogue_> lol
310: [22:32:47] <SphereSilver> Wait, irogue_ != Joel now, right?
311: [22:33:01] <irogue_> I have never been Joel :P
312: [22:33:16] <SphereSilver> Nor Chris, right?
313: [22:33:17] <DanaeNZ> You are now
314: [22:33:47] <irogue_> SphereSilver: correct. I am Ed.
315: [22:34:45] <antmas> no Ed. Only Joel McChris now.
316: [22:34:49] <SphereSilver> Ow, wait. I know you :X
317: [22:35:32] <SphereSilver> Ok, actually, I knew you weren't Chris, Joel or anyone else ;) But for the sake of it, it was fun.
318: [22:35:50] <SphereSilver> You're the guy with the Twitter profile that breaks my neck :P right?
319: [22:35:55] <adrexia_> lol
320: [22:36:48] <adrexia_> Not sure how you could mistake Ed for Joel
321: [22:36:52] <adrexia_> Chris, maybe
322: [22:37:21] <adrexia_> irogue_:
323: [22:37:21] <adrexia_> I have never been Joel :P
324: [22:37:30] <adrexia_> next costume party?
325: [22:37:33] <SphereSilver> adrexia_ Nah, I didn't mistake him in any way ;) None of the above is serious besides me breaking my neck over irogue_ his twitter avatar ;)
326: [22:37:42] * adrexia_ laughs
327: [22:40:04] <irogue_> SphereSilver: yup I like breaking necks
328: [22:40:21] <SphereSilver> Well, good for you!
329: [22:40:28] <SphereSilver> And bad for my neck :X
330: [22:42:40] <antmas> cool so I literally have 0 people on my follow list according to twitter today :|
331: [22:42:43] <antmas> wtf
332: [22:43:14] <SphereSilver> Awwww, I'll follow you antmas. And even put you on a list. I have yet to decide which list though.
333: [22:43:34] <antmas> no no I still have followers, but the people I follow has reset to 0
334: [22:44:24] <SphereSilver> You're shadowbanned.
335: [22:44:25] <Kingy> lolol
336: [22:44:31] <antmas> fff
337: [22:44:33] <zippy> antmas: think I might get a larger FPV quad..........
338: [22:44:45] <antmas> maybe I got drunk and unfollowed everyone
339: [22:45:04] <antmas> zippy: too schmall?
340: [22:45:32] <antmas> Kingy: lol fu
341: [22:45:35] <antmas> :)
342: [22:45:37] <Kingy> zippy: y u no buy mine
343: [22:45:51] <zippy> Kingy: you have fpv quad?
344: [22:46:04] <SphereSilver> Sleep tight folks. I'm off. Tired and lonely, I'm going to hug my matrass
345: [22:46:07] <Kingy> I did but I sold it before I left
346: [22:46:14] <DanaeNZ> haheheh
347: [22:46:45] * antmas wonders if SphereSilver has a certain kind of pillow :O
348: [22:47:34] <Kingy> antmas: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/e5/15/3de515b06f64b1b5ecf7fe6280ea0265.jpg
349: [22:47:48] <antmas> LOL
350: [22:48:13] <DanaeNZ> I am not gonna click on that
351: [22:48:29] <Kingy> SFW
352: [22:49:10] <DanaeNZ> oha ahahaha
353: [22:49:26] <DanaeNZ> I thought it was gonna be one of those
354: [22:49:34] <DanaeNZ> Ryan-Toast: what is the name?
355: [22:49:41] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: ?
356: [22:49:47] <DanaeNZ> waifu pillow
357: [22:49:51] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: lol
358: [22:50:13] <Hailwood> Anyone know if - with ss-shop you can just have shipping options for the user to select from?
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361: [22:50:15] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/74d0622d4301...f43944276dfa
362: [22:50:15] <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/69659022
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364: [22:50:15] <antmas> lol
365: [22:50:33] <SphereSilver> antmas: Yes, I have a certain kind of pillow. It looks like a square thingy.
366: [22:51:01] <antmas> XD
367: [22:51:49] <SphereSilver> Or maybe rectangular.... It could be rectangular.
368: [22:51:58] <SphereSilver> Sleep tight folks.
369: [22:52:00] <antmas> oblongy
370: [22:52:04] <antmas> SphereSilver: o/
371: [22:53:31] <Kingy> so it's cold in nz?
372: [22:53:44] <DanaeNZ> does the Form class have no extension hooks?
373: [22:53:52] <antmas> Kingy: mm
374: [22:54:00] <antmas> no worse than other winters
375: [22:54:08] <Kingy> well it is worse when you come from hot
376: [22:54:09] <Kingy> lol
377: [22:54:13] <Kingy> it's nice in aus
378: [22:54:17] <Kingy> thought I'd be colder than I am
379: [22:54:43] <antmas> roughly 12-14 during the day, -2 - 4 over night
380: [22:54:46] <irogue_> my new house is so awesomely insulated
381: [22:54:59] <antmas> irogue_: no wonder, that place is expensive as
382: [22:55:06] <irogue_> had heater on, turned it off before I went to sleep, still pretty warm in the morning
383: [22:55:36] <antmas> sorry for twitter follow spam peeps
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385: [22:56:00] <irogue_> antmas: yeah a bit pricey, but brand new
386: [22:56:11] <Stomach> is there an easy way to do recursion in a template
387: [22:56:23] <Stomach> my brain is exploding right now
388: [22:56:49] <DanaeNZ> Stomach: I would just try do it in the contoller tbh haha
389: [22:56:57] <DanaeNZ> unless you are talking about recursive includes
390: [22:56:59] <DanaeNZ> jeebus
391: [22:57:05] <Stomach> yeah pretty much that
392: [22:57:15] <Stomach> I can just build a viewable data instance in the controller though
393: [22:57:19] <Stomach> so will probably just do that
394: [22:57:40] <Stomach> I have to do a sitemap for this site
395: [22:57:45] <Stomach> and they have like 7 levels deep
396: [22:57:59] <Stomach> so I didnt want to just do "loop children" heaps in a template
397: [22:58:19] <Stomach> and its an easily recursive problem, but rendering it is hard :D
398: [22:58:30] <Stomach> $result .= "</ul>";
399: [22:58:31] <Stomach> :(
400: [22:58:39] <Kingy> lol
401: [22:58:54] <Stomach> irogue_ how can I do this
402: [22:58:59] <Stomach> you must have had to do this at some stage
403: [22:59:20] <DanaeNZ> Menu essentially does the some thing right?
404: [22:59:57] <Stomach> yeah but you still have to loop it to the depth you want
405: [23:00:07] <DanaeNZ> Oooh
406: [23:00:23] <Stomach> whereas this is an unknown depth
407: [23:00:45] <Stomach> I guess I can try recursively include a template if children or something
408: [23:00:50] <Stomach> template includes itself etc
409: [23:01:18] <zippy> don't want to use the sitemap module?
410: [23:01:40] <Stomach> what one
411: [23:01:50] <DanaeNZ> that sitemap module is just for google isn’t it?
412: [23:01:51] <Stomach> they all build the template in the controller as far as I've seen
413: [23:04:47] <antmas> Stomach: "I guess I can try recursively include a template if children or something"
414: [23:04:49] <antmas> that
415: [23:05:02] <antmas> I guess that'd be the only way to get a base?
416: [23:06:52] <adrexia_> there's one in cwp that loads children by ajax
417: [23:07:15] <Stomach> yeah that worked
418: [23:07:51] <Stomach> http://pastie.org/10274793
419: [23:08:19] <antmas> Stomach: that does what you need yeah?
420: [23:08:20] <adrexia_> Oh yeah, that's how I build all my menus too
421: [23:08:28] <Stomach> yep
422: [23:08:48] <antmas> aww yiss
423: [23:08:53] <adrexia_> it avoids that annoying long file with teh arrow pattern
424: [23:08:57] <Stomach> menus I usually build specifically to whatever level we need rather than recursively
425: [23:09:18] <adrexia_> I build them recursively. Because I'm lazy and want less code
426: [23:09:21] <adrexia_> :P
427: [23:09:22] <Stomach> :D
428: [23:09:27] <antmas> Stomach: why not recursivly?
429: [23:09:31] <adrexia_> then I either cap them on depth
430: [23:09:37] <Stomach> because depth cap
431: [23:09:41] <adrexia_> or ... do soemthign else
432: [23:09:44] <antmas> ah
433: [23:09:45] <antmas> mm
434: [23:09:49] <adrexia_> you still can cap on depth
435: [23:09:59] <adrexia_> even with recursive
436: [23:10:07] <Stomach> if ($Parent->Parent()-Parent()) BREAK
437: [23:10:07] <Stomach> lol
438: [23:10:11] <adrexia_> nah
439: [23:10:15] <adrexia_> Level () blah balh
440: [23:10:17] <Stomach> yeah I know :P
441: [23:10:21] <antmas> could you not just say 'don't be a nubcake and add 15 lvls of children?'
442: [23:10:32] <Stomach> usually we dont allow it
443: [23:10:37] <Stomach> but this is a huge information site
444: [23:10:38] <adrexia_> actually a lot of clients still want all things to appear in menus
445: [23:10:52] <adrexia_> tehy promise not to use it, but say that every now and then tehy might
446: [23:10:54] <Stomach> we have a megamenu for this one
447: [23:10:55] <Stomach> :(
448: [23:10:56] <antmas> those clients should be fired :P
449: [23:10:58] <adrexia_> ewww
450: [23:11:04] <adrexia_> those things are all wron
451: [23:11:05] <Stomach> not our design though :D
452: [23:11:05] <adrexia_> g
453: [23:11:30] <irogue_> ugh megamenu. that should be a swearword.
454: [23:11:54] <adrexia_> https://gitlab.cwp.govt.nz/cwp-themes/default/blob/master/templates/Includes/SitemapNodeChildren.ss
455: [23:12:17] <adrexia_> might be worth stealing the cwp stuff if you have really large trees
456: [23:12:44] <adrexia_> irogue_ pretty sure it is, yeah?
457: [23:12:48] <antmas> megamenus http://nelson.govt.nz/
458: [23:12:54] <adrexia_> megamenu, meganav, etc
459: [23:12:56] <antmas> get eyelbeach ready
460: [23:13:03] <antmas> eyebleach*
461: [23:13:09] <adrexia_> antmas - yeah that caused usability and load issues :P
462: [23:13:16] <antmas> lol yeah
463: [23:13:21] <antmas> like 1gb for the menu XD
464: [23:13:22] <adrexia_> two for the price of one!
465: [23:13:25] <adrexia_> yep
466: [23:13:29] <irogue_> antmas: try http://www.westpac.co.nz/
467: [23:13:35] <antmas> I know they guy who did it
468: [23:13:40] <adrexia_> just so people could put more clutter on a page
469: [23:13:47] <antmas> he was like *shrug* 'looks pretty'
470: [23:13:48] <antmas> o.O
471: [23:13:54] <adrexia_> ...it doesn't
472: [23:13:57] <adrexia_> he's wrong
473: [23:14:07] <adrexia_> it looks like the old school pages with all the links
474: [23:14:08] <antmas> ikr
475: [23:14:21] <antmas> irogue_: :P those gradient buttons
476: [23:14:26] <adrexia_> plus, who teh hell both bolds and italics the same words?
477: [23:14:33] <adrexia_> where did he learn to design???
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479: [23:14:44] <irogue_> one of my favourite corporate nz sites is https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/
480: [23:14:47] <antmas> self taught
481: [23:14:50] <antmas> aka bad
482: [23:14:54] * adrexia_ nods
483: [23:15:01] <adrexia_> not horrible for self taught
484: [23:15:10] <adrexia_> but needs refinedment
485: [23:15:13] <antmas> mm
486: [23:15:17] <adrexia_> and some UX experience
487: [23:15:24] <antmas> irogue_: I like that, even though it is boring :P
488: [23:15:36] <irogue_> antmas: yup. super boring, but super simple and easy
489: [23:15:42] <antmas> mm
490: [23:15:52] <adrexia_> woah
491: [23:15:59] <adrexia_> https://www.indiegogo.com/greek-bailout-fund.html#/story
492: [23:15:59] <antmas> nelson site gives me fouc every time I load it
493: [23:17:02] <irogue_> antmas: seen the new nzta site? good example of super boring but simple
494: [23:17:16] <antmas> adrexia_: haha, woah!
495: [23:17:36] <adrexia_> irogue_ that's really nice, yeha :)
496: [23:17:43] <adrexia_> antmas I know, right!
497: [23:17:51] <irogue_> IMO the "Roads and Rail, Commercial Driving, Safety" etc buttons should be at the top above the banner
498: [23:17:56] <adrexia_> I'm goign to give them 5 pounds. Because, why the hell not
499: [23:17:57] <irogue_> so they're above the fold on all monitors
500: [23:18:31] <antmas> irogue_: only thing I don't like is the digital blueprint lines thingies on the banner images
501: [23:18:34] <adrexia_> "above the fold" is very old school terminology
502: [23:18:34] <antmas> :P
503: [23:18:36] <adrexia_> :P
504: [23:18:49] <zagoodwin> Hey, it seems that when I loop Children of a page it only returns pages that are true for show in menus
505: [23:19:03] <Ryan-Toast> zagoodwin: that’s as designed.
506: [23:19:04] <irogue_> adrexia_: I know, but still kindof appropriate - if people can't see the main navigation without scrolling on a "normal" size screen, its a problem
507: [23:19:09] <Ryan-Toast> You can use AllChildren
508: [23:19:17] <Ryan-Toast> for all pages regardless of state
509: [23:20:15] <zagoodwin> Cheers, yeah I figure that's the way it was designed. Will use AllChildren, cheers.
510: [23:20:38] <antmas> adrexia_: almost 100% doubt that will reach it's goal
511: [23:20:50] <adrexia_> maybe not
512: [23:20:56] <adrexia_> but it will still help a little
513: [23:21:05] <antmas> I guess
514: [23:21:25] <irogue_> today feels like a burgerfuel day
515: [23:21:31] <adrexia_> it's €1,872,954 and 0%
516: [23:21:32] <adrexia_> lols
517: [23:21:37] <antmas> adrexia_: XD
518: [23:22:05] <antmas> wonder why indigogo and not kickstarter
519: [23:22:47] <irogue_> kickstarter requires a physical product
520: [23:23:32] <irogue_> it has a TON of rules to minimise chance of being used for scams, but as a result is unsuitable for a lot of legit things too
521: [23:24:00] <antmas> true
522: [23:24:03] <antmas> good point
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525: [23:46:52] <Hailwood> Why is this so difficult to work out! All I want to do do is have a list of shipping options that a user can select from, I don't care about weight, country, or anything like that..
526: [23:46:55] <Hailwood> (ss-shop)
527: [23:48:53] <irogue_> Hailwood: al of those fields should be optional
528: [23:49:07] <irogue_> except region which can be wildcard (*)
529: [23:50:35] <Hailwood> irogue_, is that using burnbright/silverstripe-shop-shipping?
530: [23:50:46] <irogue_> yeah
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532: [23:51:21] <Ryan-Toast> I got confused with the shipping biz, so I just made my own shipping handler.
533: [23:51:47] <irogue_> yeah, seems like it's be pretty easy to just make a basic one without any of that extra stuff
534: [23:52:23] <irogue_> not sure why that isn't already there tbh, might be worth writing and pull requesting
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536: [23:57:20] <Hailwood> Ryan-Toast, I'd be interested to see what you've done
537: [23:57:55] <Ryan-Toast> Hailwood: Just added a shipping price field to a product, and then just dadded them up in the cart :P
538: [23:58:00] <Ryan-Toast> added**
539: [23:58:56] <Hailwood> irogue_, So I've added two TableShippingMethod options, and added one rate to each with their respective rate values, leaving everything else as empty (so it auto populated as either * or 0.00) but I'm getting told there are no shipping options when I go to the cart?
540: [23:58:57] <Kingy> what if multiple shipping options
541: [23:59:27] <Hailwood> Ryan-Toast, Darn, that won't cover what I want. I'm basically looking at $5.00 for basic shipping, $7.50 for T&T shipping etc

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