#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 10 June 2015

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1: [00:00:10] <irogue_> [11:57:56] <antmas> 970 is more powerful and cheaper than a 290x :O
2: [00:00:28] <Colin[pi]> wait for it...
3: [00:00:37] <irogue_> its funny cos when 290x was released it was slightly higher performance than the best nvidia card at the time (titan) but *half* the price
4: [00:00:54] <antmas> yeah that was weird
5: [00:00:54] <irogue_> nvidia dropped all their prices real quick
6: [00:00:59] <Colin[pi]> heh
7: [00:01:03] <Colin[pi]> dat competition
8: [00:01:24] <antmas> mind you, 970 is also more powerful than Titan X (last gen)
9: [00:01:28] <irogue_> I basically love AMD because if it wasn't for them, Intel & nVidia would cost like 5x what they do
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12: [00:02:19] <Colin[pi]> the top end stuff back in the day was insanely priced
13: [00:02:24] <antmas> yeah that's true, we also need AMD so they can guinea pig >4core cpus so Intel can do them better :P
14: [00:02:45] * antmas turns up intel snob nose ^.^
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16: [00:03:33] <Colin[pi]> antmas: hey, back in the day, AMD shat all over intel until they got their act together
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18: [00:04:38] <antmas> yeah I know :)
19: [00:04:46] <irogue_> and don't forget, Intel is still using AMD's 64-bit architecture
20: [00:04:59] <irogue_> because their one was so shit they had to give up and license AMD's
21: [00:05:12] <Colin[pi]> lol
22: [00:05:27] <irogue_> that was AMD's glory days though
23: [00:05:32] <irogue_> Athlon64 era
24: [00:05:42] <ss23> You know what the world needs?
25: [00:05:44] <ss23> MORE P4S
26: [00:05:44] <Colin[pi]> mm
27: [00:05:47] <ss23> MORE. P4.
28: [00:05:57] <irogue_> ss23: Cyrix
29: [00:06:02] <irogue_> thats what the world needs
30: [00:06:10] <ss23> lol
31: [00:07:56] <Colin[pi]> someone also needs to remake RAM Doubler
32: [00:08:08] <Colin[pi]> ;)
33: [00:08:13] <antmas> has anyone used this with success? https://support.google.com/a/answer/2525613?hl=en
34: [00:08:20] <antmas> going to do it next week for a client
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37: [00:10:09] <antmas> need to move 5 users with emails, contacts, calendars from hosted email to google apps
38: [00:15:17] <irogue_> micmania1, ss23, Cheddam_: hello down there
39: [00:15:35] <ss23> hi
40: [00:15:38] <ss23> r u upstairs?
41: [00:15:40] <Cheddam_> you here? lunch soon?
42: [00:16:36] <irogue_> ss23: i am
43: [00:16:45] <irogue_> Cheddam_: i liek food
44: [00:16:54] <Cheddam_> food is gr8
45: [00:17:19] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: halp
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48: [00:21:36] <Ryan-Toast> Just putting this here so I can come back to it: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/eNROqm?editors=010
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50: [00:24:15] <chocolatemoose> is this the most common way to add routing to a translatable site? https://github.com/webbuilders-group/silverstripe-translatablerouting
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52: [00:30:30] <irogue_> so, Spark are sponsoring Whaleoil...
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54: [00:33:53] <ss23> lol @ Spark sponsoring Whaleoil
55: [00:33:57] <ss23> mm
56: [00:33:58] <ss23> idek
57: [00:34:36] <irogue_> it seems like high risk for minimal gain
58: [00:36:03] <irogue_> even ignoring the whale's particular uniqueness, sponsoring anything political like that means you're gonna alienate at least half of your customer base
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64: [00:44:31] <spronk> what do you mean half
65: [00:44:36] <spronk> everyone loves whaleoil
66: [00:44:41] <spronk> AMIRITE!?
67: [00:45:28] <ss23> trudat
68: [00:45:36] <ss23> I get the vibe antmas is a whaleoil supporter
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70: [00:46:00] <spronk> ~~~
71: [00:46:19] <Stomach> irogue_ more like 49% :P
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73: [00:51:21] <antmas> ss23: wat
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75: [00:51:41] * antmas has never been to whaleoil's site
76: [00:52:00] <ss23> DON'T DO IT YOU'LL LOVE IT :O
77: [00:52:22] <spronk> cameron slater looksl ike jabba the hutt
78: [00:52:22] <antmas> :O
79: [00:52:29] * antmas doesn't know what to do
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81: [00:59:56] <ss-helper> phpMyAdmin error 1064 with SilverStripe database [on hold] - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30706628/phpmyadmin-error-1064-with-silverstripe-database
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83: [01:03:13] <zippy> spronk: hearing some good news about new osx
84: [01:03:18] <spronk> mm.. same
85: [01:03:22] <spronk> fingers crossed
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88: [01:10:23] <chocolatemoose> is it possible to set the default locale for i18n and the translatable module in yml? I've tried and I keep getting admin/pages/?locale=en_US
89: [01:11:19] <zippy> chocolatemoose: check your mysite/_config.php doesn't have the locale, because it's there by default
90: [01:11:35] <chocolatemoose> nope, not in there either
91: [01:12:21] <zippy> how are you setting it?
92: [01:13:35] <chocolatemoose> http://pastebin.com/rxkHFa38
93: [01:15:50] <longmog> the joys of having a macbook air
94: [01:15:56] <longmog> am sitting in a coatsville cafe with good internet over my mobile and 5 hours of battery and poached eggs writing some code looking at a river
95: [01:16:04] <longmog> can confirm
96: [01:17:50] <chocolatemoose> moved it into _config.php and it works *shrugs*
97: [01:21:15] <zippy> I THINK in the yaml under i18n: it would be default_locale: 'en_NZ' not set_locale: 'en_NZ'
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99: [01:22:38] <zippy> longmog: kim, that you?
100: [01:22:39] <zippy> :P
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102: [01:32:24] <longmog> yeah my next meeting is near his house
103: [01:32:30] <longmog> does he still live there, fuck knows
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109: [01:50:52] <zippy> longmog: yup, go say hi
110: [01:50:53] <zippy> :)
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116: [02:02:58] <zippy> PHp 5.5, active support until 20 Jun 2015
117: [02:03:05] <zippy> the versions just seem to be flying by these days
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120: [02:07:27] <ss23> zippy: You're just getting old!
121: [02:07:42] <zippy> :S
122: [02:07:49] * zippy is feeling the bday love today
123: [02:07:56] <ss23> AWWW
124: [02:08:01] <ss23> Happy Birthday, zippy! :D
125: [02:09:12] <spronk> bleh
126: [02:09:16] <spronk> also, happy birthday zippy
127: [02:09:28] * antmas takes a stap at Zip's age
128: [02:09:33] <antmas> 32?
129: [02:09:54] <zippy> I think on your bday leprechauns should come in and do your work
130: [02:13:40] <Colin[pi]> happy birthday zippy!
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132: [02:16:57] <zippy> thanks :)
133: [02:17:24] <Colin[pi]> jeez my bday is in a month :o
134: [02:17:28] <Colin[pi]> this year has flown by
135: [02:18:53] <zippy> older you get the faster it goes because each day / year makes up a smaller amount of time in your list. ie. When you are 5 a year is 20% of life, so seems like a long time. When you 50 a year is only 2% so seems to go much faster :)
136: [02:18:58] <zippy> *time in your life
137: [02:19:45] <Colin[pi]> and you have more shit to do
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139: [02:22:18] <zippy> true that
140: [02:22:42] <zippy> and more responsibilities :(
141: [02:22:50] <zippy> peter pan had the good life eh!
142: [02:23:18] <zippy> A passenger on a plane leaving Auckland drank ¾ of a bottle of vodka in the airport toilets, threatened a fellow passenger and squeezed the breast of a woman sitting in front of him.
143: [02:23:19] <zippy> haha
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145: [02:29:59] <antmas> Colin[pi]: our bdays must be pretty close :O
146: [02:30:06] <antmas> I said 2 months, but it's not that much
147: [02:30:07] <zippy> bahahaha
148: [02:30:09] <zippy> https://www.facebook.com/kiwisworldwide/photos/a.564604310261504.1073741825.163799610341978/830676896987576/?type=1
149: [02:30:24] <antmas> zippy: LOL
150: [02:30:26] <zippy> Colin[pi]: there you go, can use that if you ever come to NZ ^
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154: [02:54:12] <longmog> hey guys, any idea how to get GridFieldAddNewMultiClass to show normal rows? right now it shows a row as i'd expect but i can't click it to edit the DO associated with it http://i.imgur.com/zOdbhOg.png
155: [03:00:12] <longmog> ahh, GridFieldDetailForm
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158: [03:01:36] <longmog> or not
159: [03:03:27] <zauberfisch> longmog: GridFieldAddNewMultiClass is just one component
160: [03:04:02] <zauberfisch> what you are looking for is probably a combination of GridFieldDetailForm + GridFieldDataColumns
161: [03:05:18] <zauberfisch> $config = (new GridFieldConfig())->addComponents(new GridFieldAddNewMultiClass(), new GridFieldDetailForm(), new GridFieldDataColumns(), ....);
162: [03:05:40] <zauberfisch> or:
163: [03:06:22] <zauberfisch> $config = (new GridFieldConfig_RecordEditor())->removeComponentsByType('GridFieldAddNewButton')->addComponent(new GridFieldAddNewMultiClass());
164: [03:06:30] <zauberfisch> which is usualy what I do
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168: [03:18:30] <longmog> thanks zauberfisch
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180: [03:57:00] <spronk> totally going to eat a le snack
181: [03:57:04] <spronk> because i can
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183: [03:59:07] <spronk> fuck these are disgusting
184: [03:59:11] <spronk> how did i ever like these
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186: [04:03:06] <Colin[pi]> spronk: rofl
187: [04:03:17] <Colin[pi]> and so summarises every le snack eating experience ever
188: [04:03:20] <spronk> :D
189: [04:03:34] <spronk> ... except D:
190: [04:03:37] <spronk> because i ate it
191: [04:03:40] <spronk> and it was fucking disgusting
192: [04:03:49] <spronk> that cheese... flavoured.. goo
193: [04:03:51] <spronk> radioactive.
194: [04:04:41] <Colin[pi]> spronk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN62l9sV41I
195: [04:04:44] <antmas> spronk: ahem, it's called 'plastic' not cheese
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198: [04:06:29] <Colin[pi]_2> fuck my internet
199: [04:08:12] <antmas> :P
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201: [04:10:33] <Colin[pi]_2> good he's gone
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204: [04:14:17] <antmas> being able to update your card pin in mobile banking is pretty sweet
205: [04:22:02] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
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207: [04:22:16] <Kingy> morning
208: [04:22:23] <antmas> Kingy: o/
209: [04:22:28] <Kingy> hey buddy
210: [04:22:56] <Kingy> ss23: thanks for fixing the live deploys \o/
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212: [04:25:52] <Kingy> antmas: my ISP did something so I can finally play MM again :D
213: [04:26:03] <antmas> MM?
214: [04:26:28] <Kingy> matchmaking
215: [04:26:32] <Kingy> competitive
216: [04:27:07] <antmas> ah
217: [04:27:35] <Kingy> ranked up to gold nova 1 as well haha
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219: [04:28:53] <Kingy> http://imgur.com/a/stKmq
220: [04:29:47] <antmas> you still got that knife?
221: [04:32:18] <Kingy> hells yeah lol
222: [04:33:07] <Colin[pi]> lol I thought he might have 2 by now
223: [04:33:16] <Colin[pi]> and heya kingy
224: [04:33:17] <Colin[pi]> ;D
225: [04:33:18] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: believe me i've tried :P
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227: [04:33:37] <Kingy> I've got plenty of negevs and galils though haha
228: [04:33:47] <antmas> need to play that more
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230: [04:33:51] <antmas> too much witcher
231: [04:34:12] <Colin[pi]> too many good games, not enough time
232: [04:34:27] <Kingy> steam sale coming up as well
233: [04:34:28] <Kingy> haha
234: [04:34:32] <Colin[pi]> :C
235: [04:34:33] <antmas> :|
236: [04:34:45] * antmas snaps credit card
237: [04:34:52] <Kingy> and E3 in a couple weeks
238: [04:34:54] <antmas> NO THIS TIME, GABEN
239: [04:35:13] <Kingy> Ramadan starts next week
240: [04:35:15] <Kingy> should be interesting
241: [04:36:49] <antmas> http://steamed.kotaku.com/the-guy-with-the-highest-steam-level-1710132159
242: [04:36:58] <antmas> speaking of not enough time
243: [04:38:02] <antmas> $34k account :O
244: [04:38:21] <Kingy> jeez
245: [04:38:39] <Colin[pi]> wow
246: [04:38:49] * Kingy is level 7
247: [04:39:05] <Kingy> 8 years of service
248: [04:39:29] <antmas> I think if you get to 600 or have a $34k account, games should just be free
249: [04:40:03] <Kingy> i reckon
250: [04:40:19] <Kingy> at what point do they just say "ya know what.. take what ya want"
251: [04:40:36] <Kingy> can't be that many games he doesn't own already surely
252: [04:41:53] <antmas> he probably gets enough in coupons that they will be free or close enough anyway
253: [04:42:19] <Kingy> most likely
254: [04:43:40] <chocolatemoose> and then steam shuts down...
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264: [05:09:22] <chocolatemoose> any idea why hitting a route like mysite.com/products without the trailing slash results in mysite.com/products/?url=/products ?
265: [05:11:48] <Kingy> camfindlay UncleCheese: I like the idea of giving away a quadcopter, but speaking from experience.. If the person who wins hasn't used one before, it's going to be $400 down the drain pretty quickly
266: [05:12:11] <UncleCheese> how's that?
267: [05:12:49] <Kingy> you crash them, and you crash them often
268: [05:13:07] <camfindlay> just make sure and get that on video Kingy
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270: [05:13:25] <Kingy> I spent a few hundred building one from scratch and spent probably another $100 on replacing parts
271: [05:13:44] <Kingy> it just comes with the territory and is to be expected
272: [05:15:08] <Kingy> at the very least, when you get it, order a few extra props and landing gears
273: [05:15:29] <Kingy> maybe even another body
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275: [05:21:08] <stecman> Hey has anyone got a nice solution for catching routes not found when using framework stand alone?
276: [05:28:02] <chocolatemoose> is it possible to pass in a locale to _t() to retrieve a translation?
277: [05:28:12] <chocolatemoose> or does it only work with the current locale?
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295: [06:00:21] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4972 (3.1 - 38ca214 : Will Rossiter): The build passed.
296: [06:00:21] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/c877882f7e74...38ca214e2b49
297: [06:00:21] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/66163336
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321: [07:31:05] <mike123> Morning :)
322: [07:31:11] <ss23> moin
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324: [07:34:27] <swaiba> morning
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336: [08:17:38] <wmk> py not around??
337: [08:20:20] <mike123> when i click on parent page it automatically shows first child, but i dont need this, how do i change this ?
338: [08:26:31] <Eliseth> Morning
339: [08:27:12] <Eliseth> How do I set an ID to a CompositeFIeld inside a form? setAttribute, setID, setName all seem to do nothing
340: [08:30:55] <swaiba> wmk it is quiet
341: [08:31:23] <wmk> so quiet.
342: [08:32:28] <wmk> mike123, sounds like custom code
343: [08:32:41] <Eliseth> CompositeField doesn't take any extra attributes?
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345: [08:38:13] <wmk> Eliseth, dunno, I'd look at the template or modify the template
346: [08:38:40] <darjus01> Hi, how to set default value to numeric field i tried ->setValue(6) its not working
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348: [08:40:53] <swaiba> darjus01 - http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-DataObject.html - populateDefaults( )
349: [08:42:22] <mike123> wmk , i found this code in Page.php init function http://codepaste.net/nfa78h
350: [08:42:42] <mike123> i disabled it , but still ! after flush i get to first child
351: [08:44:42] <wmk> mike123, is it a redirectorpage?
352: [08:45:16] <wmk> mike123, nice snippet by the way
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354: [08:45:43] <mike123> wmk , no , here how my page looks http://codepaste.net/btf1wg
355: [08:46:30] <wmk> mike123, don't put ?> at the end of the file
356: [08:46:48] <wmk> you don't have to anymore, and if you have a single space after that it can make problems
357: [08:46:58] <wmk> cause it's outputted directly to the browser
358: [08:48:11] <mike123> ok
359: [08:49:37] <mike123> ok ! i have found that in navigation , while looping pages i get $customLink :) changed to Link and done
360: [08:49:42] <mike123> thx anyway )
361: [08:49:57] <wmk> hehe, i guessed the problem is somewhere else ;)
362: [08:51:34] <mike123> now another one
363: [08:51:59] <mike123> i have this ServicePage http://codepaste.net/eqhgqw , in admin i dont get any fields a added :/
364: [08:52:25] <mike123> dev/buil and flush=all done :)
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367: [09:06:27] <wmk> mike123, is the method called?
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369: [09:06:34] <wmk> why not add the fields seperately?
370: [09:06:57] <wmk> and - has dev/build ended without errors?
371: [09:06:59] <wmk> anything in logs?
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373: [09:07:48] <slievr> hello, is it possible to restrict what pages are shown in the "add new section"
374: [09:08:00] <slievr> without using $allowed_children
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376: [09:11:23] <Martin____> Is it possible to determine if dataobject method is called is in cms... I want to debug the canView() but only on external pages - not i CMS/admin
377: [09:13:05] <wmk> Martin____, xdebug? other type of breakpoint?
378: [09:15:20] <mike123> wmk , found the issue, code mistype
379: [09:16:06] <ss-helper> Readonly website - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30751730/readonly-website
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381: [09:23:09] <ss23> fucking workflow, how does it work
382: [09:23:26] <ss23> for some reason my user doesn't have permssion to make new pages under a certain other page
383: [09:23:30] <ss23> though I cna't see any permission stopping them
384: [09:23:31] <ss23> :/
385: [09:25:06] <ss23> stupid
386: [09:29:47] <swaiba> workflow + permissions - favourite things about silverstripe ss23 :)
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390: [09:33:48] <ss23> :(
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393: [09:40:35] <Otterpocket> How can I get the length of a Varchar in template?
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399: [10:02:57] <swaiba> Otterpocket - write a controller function, get the Config::inst()->get('ClassName','db') and then get the field formt eh array and count the number in (..)
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402: [10:16:09] <Alboes> hi. I use the Google Analytics widget of Silverstripe dashboard for several customers, but can't get connect anymore with Google Analytics.
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410: [10:48:13] <aditya> how can install modules with composer i have installed composer in my windows 7
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414: [10:57:05] <Robke> hellooo :)
415: [10:59:19] <wmk> hi
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418: [11:19:14] <aditya> how can install modules with composer i have installed composer in my windows 7
419: [11:28:16] <swaiba> aditya - I'm not sure you'll get an answer in this room of unix / mac heads ;-P
420: [11:28:49] <aditya> plz help me
421: [11:28:55] <swaiba> however I'd say that you'd be better off asking composer folk and starting with a simple example as this isn't really a *silverstiripe* question
422: [11:29:18] <swaiba> aditya - thats my advice, I can help you no more
423: [11:34:08] <aditya> ok thanks
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426: [11:59:46] <ss23> There
427: [11:59:49] <ss23> https://www.silverstripe.org
428: [11:59:52] <ss23> Since you all complained :O
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433: [12:23:00] <wmk> swaiba, ain't composer on win the same like on unix?
434: [12:23:07] <wmk> composer require module ?
435: [12:23:16] <wmk> or using the IDE of coice to install modules?
436: [12:23:36] <swaiba> wmk if I could have helped him I would
437: [12:23:45] <swaiba> hold on to your hat, but we still use SVN
438: [12:23:56] <swaiba> but for very few days more
439: [12:23:56] <wmk> omg!
440: [12:24:08] <wmk> well, (s)he left now
441: [12:24:21] <wmk> but lmgtfy would have helped ;)
442: [12:24:47] <swaiba> well I was clear that *I* couldn't help
443: [12:25:16] <swaiba> and TBH there are normally things that win7 / unix differ on, so I wasn't going to wade into that
444: [12:25:40] <wmk> ok, i have git-bash on win7, so no "Pure" win, but one i can work with
445: [12:25:48] <wmk> and a bash helps a lot ;)
446: [12:26:02] <wmk> babun /cygwin lags too much on my machine
447: [12:26:11] <wmk> but is much cooler
448: [12:26:14] <wmk> zsh ...
449: [12:29:48] <darjus01> hi all if I want to select pages that are in Date range of 2015-05 month? DataList::create()->filter(array(´created´ => ´2015-05´)) will be posible?
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451: [12:32:56] <wmk> darjus01, more like greater than 2015-05 and less than 2015-06
452: [12:36:35] <darjus01> so i need DB::query not Datalist
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456: [13:01:22] <wmk> darjus01, of course datalist->filter()
457: [13:02:04] <darjus01> ?
458: [13:06:31] <darjus01> oh made it :)
459: [13:06:51] <darjus01> thx
460: [13:07:20] <wmk> darjus01, https://github.com/Firesphere/silverstripe-newsmodule/blob/master/code/pages/NewsHolderPage.php#L474 could be interesting
461: [13:07:43] <wmk> ->filter(array('PublishFrom:PartialMatch' => $year . '-' . $month))
462: [13:08:12] <darjus01> mine solution is DataList::create("BlogPage")->where('"Created" LIKE \''.$_GET['archive'].'%\'')->sort('Created', 'DESC')
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465: [13:08:44] <darjus01> GET is 2015-05
466: [13:09:54] <wmk> which is pretty much the partialmatch filter
467: [13:10:09] <wmk> but darjus01: NEVER EVER use $_GET in a query!!!!
468: [13:10:28] <darjus01> why?
469: [13:10:31] <wmk> you have to sanitize the get value, otherwise you can have some sql injection
470: [13:11:16] <darjus01> ok
471: [13:11:19] <darjus01> thx
472: [13:11:53] <swaiba> darjus01 Convert::raw2sql($var)
473: [13:13:06] <darjus01> done thx
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475: [13:37:55] <darjus01> some one kas installed https://github.com/silverstripesk/silverstripe-disqus ?
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477: [13:38:05] <darjus01> some one has installed https://github.com/silverstripesk/silverstripe-disqus ?
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479: [13:42:05] <Otterpocket> Is it possible using the ORM to pull all the unique Years from my Records?
480: [13:43:50] <catcher> Otterpocket, if it's an efficiency thing, you can always raw query.
481: [13:44:14] <catcher> Otterpocket, if not, you can lean on php (column + unique, or GroupedList: http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.1/developer_guides/model/how_tos/grouping_dataobject_sets/)
482: [13:45:07] <Otterpocket> catcher, Cool, Thanks ill checkout that link
483: [13:47:05] <wmk> nginx config, when will we love each other
484: [13:54:07] <catcher> wmk, SS-specific, or just in general?
485: [13:54:37] <wmk> in general
486: [13:56:43] <catcher> wmk, I haven't taken that plunge yet. apache is just so eeeeeasy...
487: [14:02:39] <Eliseth> What's the problem wmk?
488: [14:02:58] <wmk> well, just trying to add client_max_body_size
489: [14:03:06] <wmk> and got confused with syntax
490: [14:04:07] <Eliseth> AH, never had to bother with that (so far)
491: [14:05:35] <Eliseth> Oh, I did actually set it to 50M :)
492: [14:06:31] <wmk> Eliseth, i get Request entry too large when i try to upload an 1M image
493: [14:06:36] <wmk> where did you set that?
494: [14:06:45] <wmk> globally?
495: [14:06:54] <Eliseth> nginx.conf under the http directive
496: [14:07:01] <Eliseth> So yes, globally
497: [14:07:12] <Eliseth> But you got to set the limits in PHP as well
498: [14:07:35] <Eliseth> (upload_max_filesize in php.ini etc)
499: [14:13:35] <wmk> yup. but with 8M i'm quite save...
500: [14:13:37] <wmk> got it finally
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506: [14:54:04] <Otterpocket> Is there any documentation in existence for this https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-autocomplete ?
507: [14:55:32] <wmk> Otterpocket, the code itself ;) https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-autocomplete/blob/3.1/code/AutoCompleteField.php
508: [14:55:52] <wmk> No! - YES! - OOOHHH!
509: [14:56:11] <wmk> so what are your problems?
510: [14:57:20] <wmk> should be ready-to-use when you give it all params
511: [14:58:24] <wmk> AutoCompleteField::create($name, $title, $value, $maxLength, $form, $sourceClass, $sourceField, $sourceFilter)
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517: [15:24:42] <Otterpocket> wmk, What goes in $form?
518: [15:24:57] <Otterpocket> what is the value it is expecting
519: [15:24:58] <wmk> hmm
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522: [15:26:17] <wmk> Otterpocket, that's from textfield, but seems not to be used
523: [15:26:58] <wmk> I'd let it be null
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525: [15:28:11] <wmk> TextField passes it to FormField where it's ignored...
526: [15:28:28] <wmk> maybe some old legacy code...
527: [15:28:28] <Otterpocket> and $sourceFilter ?
528: [15:29:05] <wmk> Otterpocket, see code: https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-autocomplete/blob/3.1/code/AutoCompleteField.php#L27
529: [15:29:19] <wmk> Constant SQL condition used to filter out search results
530: [15:29:50] <wmk> maybe something like "where Locale = 'en_US'" to filter out english tags
531: [15:30:01] <Otterpocket> So, ill leave that null as I have the class name and the Property
532: [15:30:10] <wmk> sounds good
533: [15:30:32] <wmk> Property = db field to filter?
534: [15:30:40] <Otterpocket> The form renders, but after 2 chars I get a JS, no doubt when the Ajax fires
535: [15:30:56] <Otterpocket> JS error*
536: [15:31:14] <wmk> debug it ;)
537: [15:31:29] <wmk> what error?
538: [15:31:58] <wmk> maybe it needs some other libs installed, the js is 3 years od
539: [15:31:59] <wmk> old
540: [15:32:13] <wmk> might have problems with your jquery version?
541: [15:41:20] <wmk> this ToggleCompositeField seems to be neat
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552: [16:31:49] <PenguinMan98> private static allowed children. I've been trying to figure out how to disallow a page type 'FlightSearchResult' from the normal 'Page' page type. It's not working.
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554: [16:41:57] <PenguinMan98> In the Page.php file I added this:
555: [16:42:04] <PenguinMan98> private static $allowed_children = array ('Page');
556: [16:42:18] <PenguinMan98> In my mind this would disallow all page types but 'Page'
557: [16:42:50] <PenguinMan98> but when I flush and refresh, it still allows me to select any page type presumably because they all are descendants from Page.
558: [16:43:47] <PenguinMan98> Is there a $disallowed_children property?
559: [16:44:00] <PenguinMan98> Or am I just doing it wrong?
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566: [17:23:15] <wmk> PenguinMan98, afaik there is no simple way to disallow other children...
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568: [17:25:17] <PenguinMan98> What solution is there to fix this UI problem? I don't want the user creating FlightSearchResult pages in random places
569: [17:26:23] <wmk> absolutely
570: [17:27:01] <PenguinMan98> .. absolutely what?
571: [17:27:53] <wmk> * If a classname is prefixed by "*", such as "*Page", then only that
572: [17:27:53] <wmk> * class is allowed - no subclasses. Otherwise, the class and all its
573: [17:27:53] <wmk> * subclasses are allowed.
574: [17:28:02] <wmk> did you look at SiteTree class?
575: [17:28:06] <wmk> SiteTree.php line 40ff
576: [17:28:13] <wmk> there is $allowed_children described
577: [17:28:27] <PenguinMan98> I did not. How would I have known to do that?
578: [17:28:35] <PenguinMan98> But thank you, that's exactly what I need
579: [17:32:08] <PenguinMan98> whitelisting works but I have to wonder if having an optional blacklist wouldn't be helpful
580: [17:35:47] <wmk> PenguinMan98, well, there are some resources for documentation, one are lessons, docs page, the other is api documentation and - drumroll - the code itself
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582: [17:38:18] <PenguinMan98> Yep. I've been looking thorugh the lessons, and docs
583: [17:38:23] <PenguinMan98> Didn't find my answer there
584: [17:38:33] <PenguinMan98> I'll have to get better at remembering to check the code
585: [17:39:54] <wmk> ;)
586: [17:40:05] <wmk> you could also overwrite allowedChildren() method in your Page class
587: [17:40:14] <PenguinMan98> There's a healthy amount of 'I don't know what I don't know'
588: [17:40:26] <wmk> or make a PR / RFC for adding disallowed children funcitonality...
589: [17:40:55] <PenguinMan98> I think that last is more my speed. I don't have a lot of time or experience to try fixing it myself
590: [17:41:27] <wmk> so PenguinMan98 you have some time until you're socratic and know what you don't know?
591: [17:41:55] <PenguinMan98> Something like that :Þ
592: [17:43:04] <PenguinMan98> Database abstraction generally just makes me roll my eyes. It's done so you can change your database should you need to. But seriously, who does that?
593: [17:43:47] <wmk> i love the ORM. no need to create tables any more
594: [17:44:04] <PenguinMan98> SilverStripe's approach is new and interesting to me
595: [17:44:08] <wmk> and passing around a DataList, add filters in extensions, so cool
596: [17:44:09] <PenguinMan98> Doctrine was awful
597: [17:44:24] <wmk> e.g. you have a module for returning some dataobjects (e.g. news)
598: [17:44:34] <wmk> or advertisements
599: [17:44:51] <wmk> if you need to filter them more (e.g. by language or subsite you're on)
600: [17:45:13] <wmk> just make an extension (if the getter method has an extension point), and add the filter for the current language...
601: [17:45:45] <wmk> as long the DataList is not traversed (in a foreach or <% loop %>) it's not called, so you can still alter the query
602: [17:50:53] <wmk> PenguinMan98, even if you need a new field in a DataObject - you can add it with an DataExtension
603: [17:51:03] <wmk> no need to alter a module's code in most cases
604: [17:51:16] <wmk> and that's the real power of silverstripe imho
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608: [18:52:16] <PenguinMan98> What are the good modules for defining custom menus?
609: [18:52:40] <PenguinMan98> Searching google revealed the two most popular
610: [18:52:50] <PenguinMan98> But another page says that these are flat menus only
611: [18:53:32] <PenguinMan98> heyday ad i-lateral
612: [19:11:32] <wmk> what kind of custom menu do you need?
613: [19:20:05] <PenguinMan98> Just something with a simple heiarchy. Most likely only two levels deep
614: [19:20:09] <PenguinMan98> I'm not sure if we'll even use it yet
615: [19:20:16] <PenguinMan98> But they do want to see some options
616: [19:20:37] <PenguinMan98> We'd like something super dynamic and awesome like wordpress menus
617: [19:21:07] <PenguinMan98> But that isn't suffering from ridiculous security vulnerabilities every 90 days
618: [19:21:38] <PenguinMan98> If you know what I mean
619: [19:23:19] <wmk> PenguinMan98, don't say the ugly W-word!
620: [19:23:45] * PenguinMan98 makes a note not to say 'what' anymore in here.
621: [19:24:13] <wmk> well, you could try out the menumanager module you like most and add Hierarchy extension to it
622: [19:24:24] <wmk> that should do the magic with parent/child hierarchy
623: [19:24:34] <PenguinMan98> oh?
624: [19:24:44] <wmk> heyday has a parent method implemented, so could make problems, you'd need to overwrite that
625: [19:25:32] <PenguinMan98> I find the depth of the knowledge of the folks in the usergroups is often surprising
626: [19:26:47] <wmk> well, was just browsing the code
627: [19:27:19] <PenguinMan98> what is this heirarchy extension?
628: [19:27:27] <wmk> and i don't know the other menu...
629: [19:27:33] <wmk> just try it out and play with it
630: [19:27:43] <PenguinMan98> https://scrutinizer-ci.com/g/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/code-structure/master/class/%2Bglobal%5CHierarchy ?
631: [19:28:53] <wmk> yup, that extension
632: [19:29:30] <wmk> dunno how easy it is to have a drag-and-drop tree for each custom menu
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634: [19:34:38] <PenguinMan98> I'm not sure how to use this
635: [19:35:05] <PenguinMan98> Where are the instructions for installing and using this extension?
636: [19:35:28] <PenguinMan98> Is this built into SS?
637: [19:35:36] <PenguinMan98> Or do I have to install it separately?
638: [19:36:28] <wmk> built in, SiteTree uses it
639: [19:37:37] <wmk> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/d3b7abb0b54bdac0b32fb08429f1f6d7674f60d7/model/Hierarchy.php
640: [19:39:23] <wmk> hmm, better the 3.1. branch: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3.1/model/Hierarchy.php
641: [19:39:53] <PenguinMan98> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-Hierarchy.html
642: [19:40:52] <wmk> yup
643: [19:41:01] <wmk> PenguinMan98, well, https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager/issues/7 could be another simple possibility
644: [19:41:09] <wmk> if you just need a second level
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646: [19:43:45] <wmk> hey Stomach
647: [19:43:52] <Stomach> good morning@
648: [19:43:53] <Stomach> !
649: [19:44:05] <Stomach> running late for work, just woke up, oh noes
650: [19:44:07] <wmk> PenguinMan98, just wondered how to make nested menus with menumanager module
651: [19:44:23] <Stomach> you mean 3 levels deep?
652: [19:44:29] <PenguinMan98> Just at all
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654: [19:44:33] <Stomach> oh
655: [19:44:33] <wmk> saw https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager/issues/7
656: [19:45:09] <r3v3rb> anyone home?
657: [19:45:15] <Stomach> yeah that sort of thing works
658: [19:45:19] <wmk> no r3v3rb
659: [19:45:33] <Stomach> PenguinMan98 - i have to run to work, but will be back on in a few hours if you are around
660: [19:45:35] <r3v3rb> nice wmk ;)
661: [19:45:41] <PenguinMan98> ty!
662: [19:45:57] <Stomach> but basically follow the directions in that issue
663: [19:45:58] <Stomach> and then it works
664: [19:46:37] <Stomach> you can also just go <% loop $MenuItem.Children %>
665: [19:47:07] <PenguinMan98> We want to be able to make menus independent of the site tree
666: [19:47:18] <PenguinMan98> custom heirarchy for the menu
667: [19:47:36] <r3v3rb> i got a weird one: http://pastebin.com/9UrsWwbj
668: [19:47:46] <PenguinMan98> We want this because we will have 3+ different navigational menus and each has its own content.
669: [19:47:51] <Stomach> yeah put a has_one on MenuItem to MenuSet
670: [19:47:56] <Stomach> via extension
671: [19:48:07] <Stomach> then you can build the menus
672: [19:48:16] <r3v3rb> when I try clicking on any of the bike relations in modeladmin I get an error: Error at \framework\model\DataObject.php line 1453: DataObject::getComponents(): Unknown 1-to-many component '' on class 'Bike'
673: [19:48:22] <Stomach> then link them all up, the template will be messy tho
674: [19:48:31] <r3v3rb> any ideas?
675: [19:49:02] <PenguinMan98> I know what has_one is / does roughly
676: [19:49:13] <PenguinMan98> is MenuSet built in? Or do I need to get it?
677: [19:49:18] <r3v3rb> PenguinMan98, i used that extension for a large corporate site worked well
678: [19:49:21] <Stomach> MenuSet is part of MenuManager
679: [19:49:50] <Stomach> r3v3rb might be able to help or I will when I make it to work / finish my first 2 meetings :D
680: [19:49:52] <Stomach> see you soon
681: [19:50:01] <PenguinMan98> ok thanks!
682: [19:50:02] <r3v3rb> np Stomach
683: [19:50:24] <Stomach> r3v3rb - is "Component" another class somewhere?
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685: [19:50:37] <r3v3rb> yeh its in the pastebin i posted
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687: [19:52:55] <wmk> r3v3rb, is Component a reserved word?
688: [19:53:07] <wmk> in orm?
689: [19:53:18] <r3v3rb> could be just changing my class
690: [19:53:20] <r3v3rb> ;)
691: [19:53:56] <wmk> yup, BikeComponent or whatever
692: [19:55:22] <wmk> DataObject has a method "getComponent"
693: [19:57:52] <r3v3rb> aye, just refactored and its all good
694: [19:58:05] <r3v3rb> trust me to use a reserved word
695: [19:58:22] <r3v3rb> sod's law
696: [19:58:31] <wmk> sod?
697: [19:58:53] <r3v3rb> old english language <- ignore me
698: [19:59:35] <wmk> np, interesting
699: [19:59:37] <r3v3rb> happy though, I have my 7 sheet excel spreadsheet, importing and populating the website in one hit now for client
700: [19:59:53] <wmk> wow.
701: [20:00:00] * wmk likes populate module
702: [20:00:13] <wmk> or just good ol' php array derivated from old cms
703: [20:00:15] <r3v3rb> nah, its not generic enough
704: [20:00:33] <r3v3rb> used phpexcel to read and then loopy loop time
705: [20:01:35] <r3v3rb> had to be careful with the import order due to relations
706: [20:02:40] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Deprecation notices in 3.2 onwards - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/PnEqtlTC7NQ/T5aFEJsxSDUJ
707: [20:04:24] <wmk> r3v3rb, well, at least it wasn't finagle's law
708: [20:04:47] <wmk> or was it?
709: [20:05:11] <r3v3rb> basically the same yes
710: [20:05:13] <wmk> - the error is, where the data seems to be right
711: [20:05:24] <wmk> -- if you ask someone for help, he won't find the error
712: [20:05:42] <r3v3rb> indeed, the error was that I used a name that looked right but was already in use elsewhere grrr
713: [20:05:45] <wmk> -- if someone looks over it randomly, he'll find it
714: [20:05:53] <PenguinMan98> That's the one
715: [20:05:58] <PenguinMan98> Drives me nuts
716: [20:06:07] <wmk> finagle?
717: [20:06:13] <PenguinMan98> I agonize over the problem for an hour. They walk over and point and there it is.
718: [20:06:20] <r3v3rb> PenguinMan98, welcome to SS :) a world of fun
719: [20:06:30] <wmk> well, PenguinMan98 , buy a rubber duck
720: [20:06:40] <PenguinMan98> I have a rubber penguin and a fluttershy
721: [20:06:42] <r3v3rb> wmk, then throw it at them
722: [20:06:49] <wmk> ;)
723: [20:06:52] <wmk> fluttershy?
724: [20:07:06] <PenguinMan98> http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Fluttershy
725: [20:07:16] <PenguinMan98> hehe
726: [20:07:33] <wmk> penguinwoman?
727: [20:08:30] <PenguinMan98> 35/m/Utah. Married with 5 kids
728: [20:08:40] <wmk> well, murphy finagle would be a nice artist's name, r3v3rb ?
729: [20:09:11] <r3v3rb> might change my google play account to that wmk
730: [20:09:16] <wmk> well, i've heard much from Utah, but married with 5 kids... that's evern stranger than Saarland
731: [20:09:52] * wmk is happily married with only one adult woman
732: [20:09:57] <wmk> *duck*
733: [20:10:02] <PenguinMan98> oh pffft!
734: [20:10:10] * PenguinMan98 tosses a potted plant
735: [20:10:14] * wmk missed the #witzefrei hashtag... damn
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738: [20:24:28] <PenguinMan98> my personal website: http://www.mlpnwrp.com
739: [20:24:40] <PenguinMan98> I was thinking about rewriting it with SS
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749: [20:36:03] <PenguinMan98> TikiWiki turned out to be less than ideal
750: [20:37:16] <zippy> PenguinMan98: get ya Foo sorted?
751: [20:37:37] <PenguinMan98> uhh.. well... I've been reading up on the things you all told me about
752: [20:37:46] <PenguinMan98> But I haven't actually written any code yet
753: [20:37:55] <zippy> so you still have foo?
754: [20:38:03] <PenguinMan98> oooooooh, the foo thing
755: [20:38:26] <PenguinMan98> we had a copy of the framework folder inside the theme directory and it was screwing everything up
756: [20:38:32] * benjhocking1 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
757: [20:38:37] <PenguinMan98> nobody is really sure how it got there
758: [20:38:41] <zippy> and removing that fixed that?
759: [20:38:44] <PenguinMan98> yes
760: [20:38:57] <PenguinMan98> but my flush times are still 48 seconds+
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762: [20:39:15] <PenguinMan98> which is super annoying but not a deal breaker
763: [20:39:27] <r3v3rb> hmm, as I don't have a 'Title' field in a couple of DO's whats the best way to may a field to Title so modeladmin doesn't show #1 / #3 in the breadcrumb
764: [20:39:36] <r3v3rb> map* not may
765: [20:39:57] <zippy> dude. I get pissed off by flushes which take longer than 3 seconds
766: [20:40:04] <zippy> I couldn't stand 48 seconds...
767: [20:40:07] <zippy> what is causing that?
768: [20:40:08] <r3v3rb> 48 seconds!??!
769: [20:40:19] <zippy> could you put the node modules in your root folder, instead of themes?
770: [20:40:20] <PenguinMan98> YES
771: [20:40:33] <zippy> that way the system wont scan those foldes
772: [20:40:41] <PenguinMan98> and we put the ignore in that root
773: [20:40:46] <r3v3rb> geez, get a new server too :D
774: [20:40:47] <PenguinMan98> that folder will not be present on the live site
775: [20:40:56] <zippy> ignore in that root?
776: [20:41:03] <PenguinMan98> Yeah
777: [20:41:13] <zippy> so you moved the modules folder already I mean
778: [20:41:29] <PenguinMan98> no, it's still there
779: [20:41:32] <zippy> right
780: [20:41:36] <zippy> so it will still be getting scanned
781: [20:41:38] <PenguinMan98> but I put a _manifest_exclude file
782: [20:41:43] <PenguinMan98> in the root
783: [20:41:47] <zippy> it will get scanned for templates
784: [20:41:49] <PenguinMan98> So it skips that folder
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786: [20:42:28] <zippy> Stomach: o/
787: [20:43:54] <PenguinMan98> again, the node_modules folder will not be present on the live site
788: [20:44:01] <PenguinMan98> We're only using it for gulp
789: [20:44:11] <zippy> PenguinMan98: yea but it makes local development pretty rubbish
790: [20:44:27] <zippy> can you put a _manifest_exclude inside the node_modules fodler
791: [20:44:37] <PenguinMan98> I just told you twice that I did
792: [20:45:04] <zippy> sorry, the way you said it I thought you put it in the site root
793: [20:45:29] <PenguinMan98> Heh, tried that too. but then my theme didn't work at all
794: [20:45:32] <zippy> I would be interested to know if you moved that whole folder out (desktop) and tried to flush if it was faster. If not then you have other problems.
795: [20:45:49] <PenguinMan98> I have a copy of the site that does not have the node modules folder
796: [20:46:01] <PenguinMan98> It still takes 48+ seconds to flush
797: [20:46:12] <zippy> yea, so I think you got something else freaky going on
798: [20:46:17] <PenguinMan98> and this is on my local machine with 32 Gb of RAM
799: [20:46:28] <zippy> right, that rules out developing on a potatoe
800: [20:46:40] <zippy> * Potato
801: [20:46:45] <zippy> I am sure it had an e in it
802: [20:46:53] <PenguinMan98> lol
803: [20:48:15] <PenguinMan98> we're pretty much just shrugging and calling it an issue with developing on windows and moving on
804: [20:48:31] <zippy> lol
805: [20:48:52] <PenguinMan98> but if you know any tricks to diagnose why this takes so long, then I'm all ears
806: [20:49:50] <zippy> You mentioned you had wordpress and wiki and symphony
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808: [20:50:01] <zippy> are they all in the same folder as the cms and framework folders
809: [20:50:06] <zippy> or is the SS site in it's own sub folder?
810: [20:50:21] <PenguinMan98> symfony is just for the yaml support
811: [20:50:32] <PenguinMan98> comes with SS
812: [20:50:39] <zippy> right
813: [20:50:47] <zippy> and the others
814: [20:50:49] <PenguinMan98> not sure what wiki you mean
815: [20:50:55] <PenguinMan98> wordpress is installed
816: [20:51:02] <PenguinMan98> but it's in another doc root
817: [20:51:02] <wmk> !
818: [20:51:42] <zippy> right
819: [20:51:47] <zippy> so shouldn't be any problems there
820: [20:52:13] <zippy> can you (pastebin) what the folder looks like which has the assets/ cms / framework (just a ls is fine)
821: [20:52:59] <PenguinMan98> http://screencast.com/t/GBDmFwxKhw1
822: [20:53:18] <PenguinMan98> the wordpress is in the /blog
823: [20:53:47] <zippy> have you put in an exlcude for that folder (thou, it doesn't have a _conf) so should be fine and not be scanned anyway
824: [20:53:57] <PenguinMan98> I have not
825: [20:54:31] <PenguinMan98> done
826: [20:54:37] <r3v3rb> ugh, its so ugly - help me :) Major Category / Chassis / Frame / #1
827: [20:54:49] <zippy> PenguinMan98: and flush?
828: [20:54:55] <r3v3rb> How do I get rid of the #1 and use a field in the DO instead
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830: [20:56:00] <PenguinMan98> 38 seconds
831: [20:56:18] <PenguinMan98> 43 if you include the time it took to render the page
832: [20:58:38] <zippy> mm pretty rubbish eh
833: [20:59:44] <r3v3rb> okay i cheated and overrode getTitle in each DataObject
834: [20:59:46] <r3v3rb> :)
835: [21:00:11] <PenguinMan98> If it's stupid, but works... it's not stupid.
836: [21:00:12] <zippy> :O
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841: [21:01:36] <DanaeNZ> looks like the cleaners were waking my computer up, ha
842: [21:01:45] <DanaeNZ> i caught a mild case of death
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845: [21:05:34] <zippy> antmas: hi
846: [21:05:53] <antmas> zippy: o/
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848: [21:09:17] <PenguinMan98> I wish I had a doc on how to use the Class Hierarchy tools
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852: [21:12:33] <Ryan-Toast> PenguinMan98: were you born in 98\/
853: [21:13:54] * stecman has joined #silverstripe
854: [21:13:56] <PenguinMan98> no
855: [21:14:04] <PenguinMan98> I graduated High School in 98
856: [21:14:37] <r3v3rb> I was '99 PenguinMan98
857: [21:14:42] <chocolatemoose> I was going to suggest that maybe he really fancies the French national football team, and that was the last time they won the world cup
858: [21:15:04] <r3v3rb> lol, chocolatemoose
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860: [21:15:38] <r3v3rb> time to switch off the surface and watch tv
861: [21:15:48] <r3v3rb> night all
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863: [21:16:22] <PenguinMan98> If you think you can win by whining, join a European sports club
864: [21:16:52] * Cheddam quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
865: [21:16:54] <PenguinMan98> http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/whiningdemotivator.jpeg?v=1414017087
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868: [21:21:28] <antmas> I think I graduated in 2007?
869: [21:21:31] <antmas> can't remember :P
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873: [21:30:22] <myles> Morning!
874: [21:30:24] <zippy> hi
875: [21:30:54] <myles> I'm trying to find some info on how to connect mysql when running CLI tasks/tests
876: [21:31:06] <myles> does anyone have some info? links?
877: [21:31:17] <zippy> it should connect
878: [21:31:20] <myles> need to test the shit out of something
879: [21:31:36] <myles> hmmm it says "Couldn't connect to MySQL database | No such file or directory"
880: [21:31:52] <myles> using MAMP
881: [21:32:04] * benjhocking quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
882: [21:32:05] <zippy> in your mysite/_config.php do you have something like
883: [21:32:21] <zippy> if server address = blah then use these datails
884: [21:32:38] <myles> yeah in my _ss_env file
885: [21:32:48] <myles> if they all fail it loads the localhost details
886: [21:32:55] <zippy> you have an if statement like that in your _ss_?
887: [21:33:07] <myles> is that bad?
888: [21:33:09] <myles> :|
889: [21:33:11] <zippy> with those files, it should be unique to your system
890: [21:33:19] <zippy> and then on your sever it has it's own _ss_env file
891: [21:33:30] <zippy> that way, locally, you can be in dev mode and make all emails send to you
892: [21:33:34] <myles> i just copied the docs
893: [21:33:36] <zippy> and production have it live and emails as normal
894: [21:33:41] <myles> it's useful for testing
895: [21:33:41] <zippy> yea, the docs doesn't have an if statement
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897: [21:34:28] <myles> it has one to determine dev or live
898: [21:34:32] <zippy> anyway, I digress
899: [21:34:53] <zippy> basically, with the _ss_environment file server has its own one, local has its own
900: [21:34:57] <zippy> now the problem with your command line is
901: [21:35:03] <zippy> by default, if you do
902: [21:35:07] <zippy> php
903: [21:35:12] <zippy> then you will use the osx version of php
904: [21:35:15] <myles> ok cool, thanks. So it should be connecting by default then
905: [21:35:29] <myles> ohhh i see
906: [21:35:30] <zippy> but we want to use the mamp version
907: [21:35:40] <myles> that makes sense
908: [21:35:44] <myles> so can't find the socket
909: [21:36:00] <myles> is that what the error means?
910: [21:36:08] <zippy> in my ~/.bashrc file I have
911: [21:36:11] <zippy> export PATH=/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.5.18/bin:$PATH
912: [21:36:20] <zippy> because I want to use php 5.5.18 on the command line
913: [21:36:22] <myles> will see if i have something similar
914: [21:36:25] <zippy> you can change that bit if needed
915: [21:36:48] <zippy> then re-open the terminal, and try it out
916: [21:37:12] <zippy> you can turn ls /Applications/MAMP/bin/php/ to see all the verions
917: [21:37:24] <zippy> but suggest you make it the same as the site is running otherwise things can get a bit cray cray
918: [21:38:05] <myles> yeah agreed. thanks for that! trying it now
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920: [21:41:34] <zippy> myles: success?
921: [21:45:56] <myles> not yet
922: [21:46:03] <myles> my path is this - /usr/X11/bin:~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin
923: [21:46:09] <myles> but if i go php -v
924: [21:46:16] <myles> i get 5.5.x
925: [21:46:33] <zippy> 1 - can you paste the whole export line please
926: [21:46:49] <zippy> 2 - did you re-open the terminal
927: [21:46:53] <myles> yeah
928: [21:47:17] <myles> echo $PATH = /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin:~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin
929: [21:47:41] <zippy> can you do
930: [21:47:46] <myles> is the path correct? maybe i need the ~
931: [21:47:46] <zippy> /Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin/php -v
932: [21:47:56] <zippy> run that
933: [21:47:59] <myles> yup that works
934: [21:48:12] <zippy> hm ok
935: [21:48:19] <zippy> your using the framework/sake wrapper?
936: [21:48:20] <DanaeNZ> which php.ini is your php using?
937: [21:48:34] <PenguinMan98> OK
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939: [21:48:42] <PenguinMan98> So let me see if I understand this all correctly
940: [21:48:56] <PenguinMan98> What I need to do is create a data object for my menu
941: [21:49:04] <myles> nah no wr4apper
942: [21:49:21] <PenguinMan98> Then give it some fields, likely just a 'url'
943: [21:49:26] <myles> not using sake
944: [21:49:47] <PenguinMan98> I relate this object to the MenuSet witha HasOne
945: [21:49:50] <zippy> you have echo, but wouldn't it be EXPORT ?
946: [21:50:02] <myles> whats the command sorry?
947: [21:50:15] <PenguinMan98> Then I'll create instances of the object to be my menu?
948: [21:50:35] <PenguinMan98> And relate them to each other using teh Hierarchy extension?
949: [21:50:36] <zippy> PenguinMan98: are you using a module to do your menus?
950: [21:50:38] <chocolatemoose> mine is like this: export PATH=/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.5.23/bin:$PATH
951: [21:50:39] <chocolatemoose> works for me
952: [21:50:53] <myles> ohh i see what you mean
953: [21:50:54] <zippy> mine is this export PATH=/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.5.18/bin:$PATH
954: [21:50:57] <myles> export PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin:~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin"
955: [21:51:06] <myles> is in my .bash_profile
956: [21:51:08] <PenguinMan98> zippy: I'm trying to learn how to create a menu that has a hierarchy independent of the site tree
957: [21:51:09] <chocolatemoose> same
958: [21:51:22] <PenguinMan98> If there is a module that can do that, so be it.
959: [21:51:38] <zippy> PenguinMan98: http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/3.0/howto/navigation-menu/
960: [21:51:51] <DanaeNZ> halp: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 21168 bytes)
961: [21:51:57] <DanaeNZ> i hate this error
962: [21:51:57] <zippy> DanaeNZ: changed PHP versions?
963: [21:52:05] <DanaeNZ> it is coming from the MediaForm in the tinymce
964: [21:52:08] <chocolatemoose> plus you want your new path before the old $PATH
965: [21:52:12] <chocolatemoose> since it will look from left to right
966: [21:52:19] <DanaeNZ> zippy: it’s on a different server so not sure
967: [21:52:23] <DanaeNZ> I’ll checkit
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969: [21:52:52] <DanaeNZ> PHP 5.4.21 on the server
970: [21:52:58] <chocolatemoose> myles: you want something like export PATH=/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:$PATH
971: [21:53:00] <DanaeNZ> don’t think it changed ha
972: [21:53:13] <zippy> export PATH="~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:$PATH"
973: [21:53:16] <myles> cool thanks, i'll try that
974: [21:54:04] <PenguinMan98> zippy: independent of the site treee
975: [21:54:09] <zippy> or
976: [21:54:10] <myles> php -v still returns 5.5 not 5.6
977: [21:54:38] <zippy> PenguinMan98: ah sorry my bad; use this; https://github.com/heyday/silverstripe-menumanager
978: [21:54:42] <PenguinMan98> zippy: On our website, we willl have three or more different navigational menus
979: [21:54:45] <DanaeNZ> myles: run this? php -i | grep 'Configuration File'
980: [21:54:49] <PenguinMan98> ok, lemme read
981: [21:55:02] <DanaeNZ> wait nvm
982: [21:55:16] <chocolatemoose> have you run a "source ~/.bash_profile" or ". ~/.bash_profile" and then open a new terminal window?
983: [21:55:21] <DanaeNZ> that’s to find the ini file which is irrelevant
984: [21:55:28] <DanaeNZ> i blame being sick
985: [21:55:30] <zippy> myles: is there anything in your bashrc file
986: [21:55:52] <zippy> myles: what do you get with
987: [21:55:53] <zippy> which php
988: [21:55:56] <myles> don't seem have one
989: [21:56:11] <myles> i get /usr/bin/php
990: [21:56:31] <chocolatemoose> myles: run "source ~/.bash_profile" or ". ~/.bash_profile" and then open a new terminal window?
991: [21:56:45] <myles> yeah ran a source
992: [21:56:48] <chocolatemoose> hmm
993: [21:56:52] <myles> :(
994: [21:56:53] <zippy> what is the out put of
995: [21:56:56] <zippy> echo $PATH
996: [21:57:13] <myles> returns /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11/bin:~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
997: [21:57:19] <myles> haha
998: [21:57:49] <chocolatemoose> looks like the original path is in there twice
999: [21:57:49] <zippy> what else is in your bash_profile ?
1000: [21:57:53] <zippy> !paste
1001: [21:57:54] <ss-helper> Please paste your code using something like http://kopy.io/ or http://www.sspaste.com/ or https://gist.github.com/ and then paste the link here.
1002: [21:58:19] <myles> umm a couple functions to save me sometime and alias'
1003: [21:58:40] <PenguinMan98> zippy: Heyday can only create a flat navigational menu. It can't do a subnav.
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1005: [21:59:20] <zippy> can you paste it
1006: [21:59:22] <DanaeNZ> oh god don’t tell me it’s because of CentOS
1007: [21:59:59] <myles> it's quite large?
1008: [22:00:17] <zippy> it's almost like it's doing export PATH="$PATH:~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:$PATH"
1009: [22:00:41] <myles> yeah looks like that aye
1010: [22:00:44] <zippy> if there is nothing sensetive in it, why not. can do an anon paste bin
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1012: [22:01:43] <myles> http://pastebin.com/e1TxayQY
1013: [22:01:58] <chocolatemoose> your export is wrong
1014: [22:01:59] <zippy> you can brew install wget
1015: [22:02:10] <zippy> yea that export isn't what I said :)
1016: [22:02:21] <chocolatemoose> export PATH="~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:$PATH"
1017: [22:02:24] <chocolatemoose> use exactly that
1018: [22:02:24] <zippy> export PATH="~/.composer/vendor/bin:/Applications/MAMP/bin/php/php5.6.2/bin:$PATH"
1019: [22:03:06] <myles> oh, ok
1020: [22:03:37] <myles> boom!
1021: [22:03:46] <myles> says 5.6.2 now
1022: [22:03:57] <myles> ok so if i try the command again it should connect
1023: [22:04:02] <myles> thank you by the way
1024: [22:04:24] <myles> and it works!
1025: [22:04:42] <myles> dunno how my path got so long
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1027: [22:04:45] <PenguinMan98> If I wanted to create two different nav menus and then relate one of them to another, could I do this with the hierarchy extension?
1028: [22:04:53] <Pyromanik> Bad idea.
1029: [22:05:02] <myles> Cheers zippy
1030: [22:05:08] <Pyromanik> But probably
1031: [22:05:27] <antmas> Pyromanik: o/
1032: [22:05:37] <Pyromanik> \o antmas
1033: [22:05:40] <PenguinMan98> Well, what other methods might I use to create a nav menu with hierarchy independent of the site tree?
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1035: [22:06:03] <Pyromanik> why independent?
1036: [22:06:10] <Pyromanik> That's the real question
1037: [22:06:12] <PenguinMan98> both heyday and i-lateral can only make flat menus
1038: [22:06:30] <PenguinMan98> Because in our site, we will have different nav menus on different pages that do different things.
1039: [22:06:49] <zippy> well...
1040: [22:06:57] <zippy> you could create many different menues
1041: [22:07:00] <Pyromanik> in short, yeh heirarchial should do the job I guess. But it was designed for sitetree, and many of those kinda things are a bit ... unexpect results when used outside of that.'
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1043: [22:07:09] <Pyromanik> zippy, but dem dropdowns!
1044: [22:07:11] <zippy> and then on those pages, allow people to select a sub menu from the list of possible menus
1045: [22:07:29] <Pyromanik> depends on definition of 'sub menu'
1046: [22:07:36] <DanaeNZ> PenguinMan98: you should totally make an actually implementable Heirarchy interface
1047: [22:07:44] <DanaeNZ> module
1048: [22:07:50] <Pyromanik> DanaeNZ, err, wut
1049: [22:08:02] <zippy> well the sub menu would just be a flat menu, but for that page
1050: [22:08:05] <DanaeNZ> Pyromanik: sorry, I’m sick, I type before I think
1051: [22:08:12] <zippy> ie, Page has one MenuItemThingie
1052: [22:08:30] <PenguinMan98> I pitched them the idea of just adding some booleans to the page pages that I could use to turn the various pages on and off depending on the menu I want them to appear in but they say they will actually rearrange the heirarchy and order completely from one menu to the next.
1053: [22:08:32] <zippy> if MenuItemThingie then show that menu, otherwise default to the main
1054: [22:08:42] <zippy> PenguinMan98: or...
1055: [22:08:48] <zippy> TreeMultiSelect
1056: [22:09:05] <Pyromanik> zippy, but dropdowns!
1057: [22:09:23] <zippy> I don't think he wants drop downs... just a different menu on different pages
1058: [22:09:29] <zippy> does he?
1059: [22:09:39] <zippy> PenguinMan98: do you?
1060: [22:09:41] <PenguinMan98> or possibly three nav menus on one page that have different thigns in them
1061: [22:09:50] <Pyromanik> says heirarchial. So yeah, I guess so. Otherwise you'd just assign a single menu to a single page
1062: [22:10:20] <PenguinMan98> And we'd like to have it be dynamic so the client can adjust them
1063: [22:10:26] <PenguinMan98> Otherwise we'd just hard code an include
1064: [22:10:35] <zippy> annd needs to make coffee
1065: [22:10:40] <Pyromanik> PenguinMan98, and if the menus are specific to the pages, and don't relate to the site structure, why not just code them in?
1066: [22:10:43] <Pyromanik> the template
1067: [22:10:52] <Pyromanik> ah
1068: [22:10:54] <zippy> ew! and if they change the urls they break?
1069: [22:10:55] <Pyromanik> ic
1070: [22:11:02] <zippy> time for a coffee and munch some pill
1071: [22:11:03] <zippy> s
1072: [22:11:09] <Pyromanik> zippy, nah because a menu would be made up of a bunch of site tree references
1073: [22:11:19] <PenguinMan98> ^
1074: [22:11:31] <Pyromanik> although if they delete a page, then you're fucked :<
1075: [22:11:34] <PenguinMan98> Also then we can charge them money to fix it
1076: [22:11:37] <Pyromanik> Happens more than you'd think!
1077: [22:11:53] <Pyromanik> like, instad of editing, they delete a page then re-create it.
1078: [22:11:59] <Pyromanik> hurr durr I know, but it happens.
1079: [22:12:08] <PenguinMan98> They will be given a list of pages they aren't allowed to delete
1080: [22:12:16] <Pyromanik> so, all of them?
1081: [22:12:16] <zippy> na
1082: [22:12:19] <PenguinMan98> This list will include the page slugs
1083: [22:12:29] <zippy> public function canDelete($member = null) { return false; }
1084: [22:12:31] <Pyromanik> well that's just silly.
1085: [22:12:41] <PenguinMan98> So if they delete one, then we can show them the docs that said you weren't supposed to do that
1086: [22:12:45] <Pyromanik> onBeforeDelete
1087: [22:12:48] <PenguinMan98> And that absolves us
1088: [22:13:11] <Pyromanik> Delivering website absolves you IMO.
1089: [22:13:29] <Pyromanik> it'd be like blaming the salesman for crashing the car after you drove off down the street.
1090: [22:13:30] <PenguinMan98> Not when you're on long-term contract
1091: [22:13:51] <Stomach> thats a "maintenance and service agreement" surely
1092: [22:13:59] <Stomach> you maintain and service their fuckups
1093: [22:14:00] <PenguinMan98> wb Stomach
1094: [22:14:04] <Stomach> thanks!
1095: [22:14:06] <Stomach> meetings are dumb
1096: [22:14:27] <Pyromanik> myles, mamp a world of hurt. Vagrant up already :<
1097: [22:15:46] * myles quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1098: [22:15:52] <Pyromanik> oh guess not then
1099: [22:15:57] <Pyromanik> glhf
1100: [22:16:10] <PenguinMan98> So anyway
1101: [22:16:23] <PenguinMan98> I'm not sure what we're going to choose to use yet
1102: [22:16:38] <PenguinMan98> I've just been tasked so far with coming up with ideas
1103: [22:16:45] <PenguinMan98> Finding out what's feasible
1104: [22:16:46] <Pyromanik> That's good
1105: [22:17:09] <Pyromanik> because this site sounds super complex :<
1106: [22:17:11] <PenguinMan98> Is it feasible to have 3 different navs on one page that have different content in them independent of the site tree
1107: [22:17:18] <Pyromanik> yes
1108: [22:17:24] <PenguinMan98> In Wordpress that's super easy
1109: [22:17:29] <Pyromanik> GTFO
1110: [22:17:37] <Pyromanik> :<
1111: [22:17:45] <PenguinMan98> But we don't want the security issues that come with that particular software
1112: [22:17:59] <DanaeNZ> GTFI
1113: [22:18:03] <Pyromanik> praising the w-word, how offensive!
1114: [22:18:27] <Pyromanik> ps, it's super easy because you hard code every fucking thing :<
1115: [22:18:38] <PenguinMan98> Ummm.. no
1116: [22:18:57] <PenguinMan98> There is a super awesome, elegant interface for creating custom menus
1117: [22:19:01] <Stomach> PenguinMan98 - what did you decide on in the end
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1119: [22:19:39] <Pyromanik> and SS can do that too. If you build one. Not the most complex bit of code.
1120: [22:19:39] <PenguinMan98> Stomach: What do you mean?
1121: [22:19:46] <Stomach> for the menu :D
1122: [22:19:58] <PenguinMan98> Pyromanik: but in WP, the client can edit it without knowing PHP code
1123: [22:20:14] <Pyromanik> I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm saying.
1124: [22:20:41] <PenguinMan98> You'd really have to understand wordpresses menu system to know what I mean
1125: [22:21:00] <antmas> I wouldn't want the client ever editing a menu
1126: [22:21:05] <PenguinMan98> You create a menu. Give it a name. then you have a box of content pages you can drag and drop into the menu
1127: [22:21:26] <PenguinMan98> You can reorder them with drag and drop, or set them beneath each other to create heirarchies
1128: [22:21:29] <Pyromanik> I wouldn't want a client.
1129: [22:21:35] <antmas> Pyromanik: lol
1130: [22:21:45] <Stomach> antmas - some clients are smart and know how the system works
1131: [22:21:46] <Stomach> rarely.
1132: [22:21:47] <PenguinMan98> You can create custom bits like links and insert them wherever you like
1133: [22:22:08] <PenguinMan98> Then you save the menu
1134: [22:22:13] <Pyromanik> sounds pretty complex.
1135: [22:22:14] <PenguinMan98> And you can include it on any page
1136: [22:22:19] <Pyromanik> I dont' think I could figure that out.
1137: [22:22:28] <PenguinMan98> It's actually really easy
1138: [22:22:40] <Pyromanik> extremely unintuitive. -1, would not use again.
1139: [22:22:51] <antmas> Stomach: emphasizing that rarely
1140: [22:22:53] <PenguinMan98> You are letting your prejudice cloud your reason
1141: [22:23:00] <Pyromanik> Yep.
1142: [22:23:08] <PenguinMan98> ok
1143: [22:23:22] <Pyromanik> Prejudice based in a world of painful experience.
1144: [22:23:34] <Pyromanik> and at least I'm not hiding the fact :P
1145: [22:23:57] <antmas> ok so if you have a client putting all those custom bits on a page, how're you going to maintain it?
1146: [22:24:12] <Pyromanik> a new menu per page per page per page
1147: [22:24:24] <Pyromanik> with no visible link between anything.
1148: [22:24:36] <Pyromanik> oodles of raw url paths
1149: [22:24:48] <Pyromanik> sounds like a nightmare.
1150: [22:25:18] <Pyromanik> But you gotta do what you gotta do. Could build that module in a day or two.
1151: [22:25:21] <antmas> it may be really nice for a client, but good luck maintaining something like that
1152: [22:25:32] <antmas> especially in that wp code
1153: [22:25:33] <Pyromanik> Easily.
1154: [22:26:09] <Pyromanik> sounds like icing on a j-word type interface.
1155: [22:26:32] <Pyromanik> The disconnect on what should naturally flow seems... nasty.
1156: [22:28:16] <Pyromanik> But yeah a CustomMenu has_many MenuItems where CustomMenu composes with Heirarchy
1157: [22:28:26] <Pyromanik> would probably do the trick.
1158: [22:28:45] <PenguinMan98> So, how would I begin building it?
1159: [22:28:53] <Pyromanik> then just a bit of jquery tree plugin thing whatever and boom. Robert's your auntie's live in lover.
1160: [22:29:37] <Pyromanik> Although that last part easier said than done I imagine.
1161: [22:29:45] <Pyromanik> as above.
1162: [22:29:45] <PenguinMan98> I'm at a point where I need to start making code happen
1163: [22:29:49] <PenguinMan98> the time for ideas is over
1164: [22:29:52] <Pyromanik> Thought you were investigating
1165: [22:30:10] <PenguinMan98> Boss just came in and said, research is over. Make something happen.
1166: [22:30:19] <PenguinMan98> like, just now
1167: [22:30:22] <Pyromanik> Take the heyday code and bang the heirarchy extension on it. Done.
1168: [22:30:32] <antmas> ^^^
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1170: [22:30:41] <Pyromanik> Literally no lines of code.
1171: [22:30:56] <Pyromanik> a modules and 3 yaml lines
1172: [22:30:58] <PenguinMan98> Well, can you help me set that up?
1173: [22:31:05] <PenguinMan98> I'm installing heyday now
1174: [22:31:15] <Pyromanik> composer require heyday/custommenus
1175: [22:31:25] <Pyromanik> CustomMenu:
1176: [22:31:26] <PenguinMan98> can't use composer unfortunately
1177: [22:31:31] <Pyromanik> extensions:
1178: [22:31:37] <Pyromanik> - Heirarchy
1179: [22:31:45] <Pyromanik> well drag and drop, whatever.
1180: [22:32:08] <Pyromanik> ftp, ssh, wget, unzip something like that
1181: [22:32:28] <Pyromanik> doesn't matter, so long as the folder ends up where it needs to be with the files that need to be in it.
1182: [22:32:40] <zippy> PenguinMan98: haha your boss sounds awesome
1183: [22:32:47] <zippy> such leadership
1184: [22:32:49] <Pyromanik> add the extension, set up the module.
1185: [22:32:55] <Pyromanik> much understanding
1186: [22:32:55] <Pyromanik> wow
1187: [22:32:59] <Pyromanik> gg zippy
1188: [22:33:21] <zippy> you in NZ PenguinMan98 ?
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1190: [22:33:30] <PenguinMan98> Utah
1191: [22:33:36] <zippy> "you guys said SS was meant to be easy"
1192: [22:33:39] <zippy> almost end of the day eh
1193: [22:33:40] <Pyromanik> Antarctica
1194: [22:33:42] <Pyromanik> duh
1195: [22:33:57] <zippy> wooo, interest rate cu
1196: [22:33:59] <zippy> t
1197: [22:34:04] <Pyromanik> wut
1198: [22:34:18] <antmas> zippy: wonder how actually noticable that will be
1199: [22:34:19] <PenguinMan98> silverstripe root = the cms folder?
1200: [22:34:25] <antmas> 3.5 to 3.25 is pretty big
1201: [22:34:27] <Pyromanik> PenguinMan98, no, root as in root.
1202: [22:34:38] <zippy> same folder that has the cms, framework, mysite folders
1203: [22:34:39] <antmas> PenguinMan98: / not /cms
1204: [22:34:39] <Pyromanik> liek /place/where/everything/is
1205: [22:34:55] <Pyromanik> and has cms/, framework/, assets/, themes/
1206: [22:35:02] <Pyromanik> etc
1207: [22:35:05] <PenguinMan98> uhh.. but it will add javascript folders here
1208: [22:35:08] <Pyromanik> your install root
1209: [22:35:13] <Pyromanik> what will?
1210: [22:35:20] <Pyromanik> no no, keep it in it's own folder!
1211: [22:35:44] <Pyromanik> menumanager/
1212: [22:35:48] <PenguinMan98> ah
1213: [22:36:10] <Pyromanik> ps, no js files in that module that I can see.
1214: [22:36:15] <PenguinMan98> http://screencast.com/t/fehEyhit7Xno
1215: [22:36:20] <Pyromanik> did you get the right one?
1216: [22:36:29] <PenguinMan98> it requires gridfield extensions
1217: [22:36:32] <PenguinMan98> that has javascripts
1218: [22:36:36] <zippy> remove the -master on the end, thats nasty :)
1219: [22:36:55] <zippy> tru
1220: [22:37:04] <PenguinMan98> ok
1221: [22:37:05] <Pyromanik> and the silverstripe- on the beginning
1222: [22:37:21] <PenguinMan98> ok
1223: [22:37:24] <zippy> be nice if we had a /modules/ folder, like /vendor/ properly
1224: [22:37:31] <Pyromanik> oh fffffffffffffffff
1225: [22:37:32] <zippy> and dev build and flush ofc
1226: [22:37:35] <Pyromanik> you zippy -.-
1227: [22:37:35] <zippy> :P
1228: [22:37:44] <Pyromanik> stop troll'n son
1229: [22:37:48] <zippy> dude I am all on that bandwagon
1230: [22:37:51] <Pyromanik> I got 99 problems, don't want you to be one.
1231: [22:37:52] <zippy> shit messey man
1232: [22:37:54] <Pyromanik> :P
1233: [22:38:01] <Pyromanik> shit not messy.
1234: [22:38:05] <Pyromanik> make a modules/
1235: [22:38:09] <Pyromanik> then you just move the mess
1236: [22:38:09] <zippy> I will!
1237: [22:38:15] <Pyromanik> STILL MESSY
1238: [22:38:25] <zippy> maybe I should just use L...
1239: [22:38:30] <zippy> boom
1240: [22:38:32] <zippy> he went there
1241: [22:38:32] <Pyromanik> yeh, go on
1242: [22:38:38] * Pyromanik knew he would
1243: [22:38:39] <zippy> :P
1244: [22:38:48] * zippy goes there often, and likes it, for some things
1245: [22:38:51] <Pyromanik> I actually thought about installing it the other day.
1246: [22:38:53] <PenguinMan98> L?
1247: [22:38:56] <Pyromanik> ara
1248: [22:38:58] <DanaeNZ> vel
1249: [22:39:00] <PenguinMan98> ooooh
1250: [22:39:14] <Pyromanik> +1 DanaeNZ gg
1251: [22:39:14] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
1252: [22:39:15] <antmas> is Laravel in the sweat list?
1253: [22:39:20] * DanaeNZ high fives Pyromanik
1254: [22:39:21] <Pyromanik> nfi
1255: [22:39:36] <DanaeNZ> > sweat list
1256: [22:39:37] <DanaeNZ> ha
1257: [22:39:38] <antmas> sweat list lol
1258: [22:39:43] <PenguinMan98> screw laravel, the future is in Silex
1259: [22:39:44] <antmas> swear*
1260: [22:39:57] <Pyromanik> I dont' get it though. Everyone raves on about it's easyness, but wholey shit might as well write that shit in ruby.
1261: [22:39:57] <zippy> PenguinMan98: Lumen?
1262: [22:40:13] <Pyromanik> Pyromanik, oh this is your wordderp port, that makes more sense.
1263: [22:40:17] <zippy> really? I find SS makes me think of Ruby more
1264: [22:40:22] <DanaeNZ> i like the blade templating system
1265: [22:40:25] <PenguinMan98> dev flush finished
1266: [22:40:25] <DanaeNZ> the end
1267: [22:40:36] <zippy> DanaeNZ: and config system
1268: [22:40:40] <Pyromanik> zippy, rails in design, perhaps. But have you had the misfortune of trying to make sense of that shit syntax?
1269: [22:40:57] <Pyromanik> I just nope right the fuck outta there, erretaiem.
1270: [22:40:57] <antmas> Pyromanik: I tried and now I hate myself for doing that project
1271: [22:41:11] <PenguinMan98> I now have menu builders and menu sets
1272: [22:41:21] <antmas> PenguinMan98: \o/
1273: [22:41:23] <Pyromanik> sounds legit
1274: [22:41:32] <PenguinMan98> sweet
1275: [22:41:35] <PenguinMan98> what next?
1276: [22:41:38] <Pyromanik> if you really need it heirarchial, then you could apply the heirachial extension.
1277: [22:41:51] <Pyromanik> but... probably easier to not, unless it becomes a demand.
1278: [22:42:01] <PenguinMan98> I want a working thing to show off first
1279: [22:42:07] <antmas> herirarchy is such a dumb word
1280: [22:42:08] <Pyromanik> well you do, now.
1281: [22:42:09] <PenguinMan98> then I'll worry about adding hierarchy
1282: [22:42:13] <antmas> makes me feel dyslexic
1283: [22:42:16] <DanaeNZ> omg i thought hierarchy was an interface
1284: [22:42:23] <Pyromanik> antmas, yeh, I never remember the correct spelling.
1285: [22:42:25] <DanaeNZ> why did i think that
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1287: [22:42:52] <Pyromanik> nfo DanaeNZ, but that's why I got all 'U WOT M8' in yo space
1288: [22:42:53] <zippy> PenguinMan98: login to the cms, make soem menus
1289: [22:42:59] <zippy> go to template, output menu
1290: [22:43:00] <zippy> win
1291: [22:43:06] <DanaeNZ> Pyromanik: makes sense now, lmao
1292: [22:43:09] <antmas> then ask for payrise
1293: [22:43:19] <Pyromanik> install instructions on that module readme should cover it :>
1294: [22:43:28] <zippy> yea, more money before hierarchy
1295: [22:43:32] <PenguinMan98> working on it
1296: [22:43:36] <PenguinMan98> thanks everybody
1297: [22:43:38] <Pyromanik> mo money mo problems
1298: [22:43:49] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
1299: [22:44:04] <antmas> PenguinMan98: scrub wp off the list, ss will help you learn way more than wp will :D
1300: [22:44:17] * antmas flies a huge flag
1301: [22:44:25] <zippy> I think Stomach used to work at HayDay I fink...
1302: [22:44:26] <PenguinMan98> antmas: If we could, we would
1303: [22:44:26] <zippy> someone goes
1304: [22:44:29] <zippy> *does
1305: [22:44:31] <antmas> o/~
1306: [22:44:32] <Stomach> yeah I did
1307: [22:44:35] <zippy> yea
1308: [22:44:36] <antmas> somethign like that
1309: [22:44:37] <Stomach> glenn-bautista does still
1310: [22:44:38] <zippy> new it
1311: [22:44:40] <zippy> knew
1312: [22:44:50] <antmas> UC did too
1313: [22:44:50] <zippy> I need to get some work done, antmas is too bloody distracting
1314: [22:45:01] <antmas> zippy: lol don't blame me!
1315: [22:45:11] <zippy> sounds like the developers version of Shortland Street, all the people go through there
1316: [22:45:12] <Stomach> stecman also works at heyday
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1318: [22:47:29] <Pyromanik> wow hierarchy is kinda slightly hardcore coupled to jquery tree thing huh
1319: [22:47:29] <ss-helper> SilverStripe 3: Loop greatgrandchildren pages WITH OUT grouping by parent - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30768447/silverstripe-3-loop-greatgrandchildren-pages-with-out-grouping-by-parent
1320: [22:48:25] <PenguinMan98> wow, that sucks. After saving one menu item, it leaves you on that page and if you change the fields you'd expect to add a second item but it only overwrites the first one
1321: [22:48:46] <PenguinMan98> needs a 'create another' button
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1323: [22:49:08] <DanaeNZ> PenguinMan98: that’s consistent across silverstripe
1324: [22:49:16] <PenguinMan98> ugh
1325: [22:49:18] <PenguinMan98> ok
1326: [22:49:24] <DanaeNZ> is gridfieldextensions the one that adds the “add another” button?
1327: [22:49:33] <DanaeNZ> cos is niiiice
1328: [22:50:14] <PenguinMan98> 'save and add another'
1329: [22:55:57] <PenguinMan98> find menu items by menu title is not intuitive. the dropdown complete list gives the menu item id not anything useful
1330: [22:56:20] <PenguinMan98> So I search for 'M' and it gives me the choice between #3 and #4. Yay.
1331: [22:57:50] <Pyromanik> weird.
1332: [22:57:54] <Pyromanik> should word.
1333: [22:57:55] <Pyromanik> work
1334: [22:58:01] <Pyromanik> complain to heyday
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1336: [22:58:08] <PenguinMan98> I just may do that
1337: [22:58:10] <zippy> If there are any chilli heads here, this place is good; http://www.saucenation.co.nz/
1338: [22:58:17] <PenguinMan98> but I'm going to try i-lateral first
1339: [22:58:33] <Pyromanik> lol that stack overflow answer btw
1340: [22:58:41] <zippy> I found the heyday one more polished than i-lateral btw
1341: [22:58:44] <Pyromanik> aaaalll the query.
1342: [22:58:55] <zippy> http://www.saucenation.co.nz/snacks/chips?product_id=445 - these some hot freakign chips
1343: [22:58:56] <Pyromanik> zippy, not the case here. Can't even find page titles.
1344: [22:59:03] <Pyromanik> apparently
1345: [22:59:10] * Pyromanik shrugs
1346: [22:59:21] <Pyromanik> I been off the SS juice for far too long.
1347: [23:00:18] <Stomach> PenguinMan98 - use better buttons
1348: [23:00:28] <PenguinMan98> better buttons?
1349: [23:00:33] <Stomach> https://github.com/unclecheese/silverstripe-gridfield-betterbuttons
1350: [23:00:36] <DanaeNZ> betterbuttoins! That’s the one i was thinking of
1351: [23:00:44] <Stomach> adds the "save and add next" etc buttons to the CMS
1352: [23:00:45] <Stomach> super handy
1353: [23:01:02] <DanaeNZ> when is better buttons gonna be merged to core, lmao
1354: [23:01:17] <PenguinMan98> sweet
1355: [23:01:28] * zippy quit (Client Quit)
1356: [23:01:33] <Pyromanik> DanaeNZ, never.
1357: [23:01:40] <DanaeNZ> aww
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1359: [23:02:09] <Pyromanik> The overlord will rebuild something in a similar but far more over-engineered fashion though.
1360: [23:02:15] <Pyromanik> eventually.
1361: [23:02:24] <Pyromanik> In true SS fashion.
1362: [23:02:41] <PenguinMan98> the overlord hmm?
1363: [23:02:48] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
1364: [23:03:50] <Pyromanik> Technical Director
1365: [23:04:47] <Stomach> you mean CTO ?
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1367: [23:05:55] <PenguinMan98> wow
1368: [23:06:03] <PenguinMan98> i-lateral is SOOOOO much better
1369: [23:06:11] <PenguinMan98> It really blows heyday out of the water
1370: [23:07:39] <PenguinMan98> heyday has drag and drop sorting which is more user friendly
1371: [23:07:56] <PenguinMan98> but i-lateral can add all the menu items at once instead of one at a time
1372: [23:08:00] <PenguinMan98> saves a lot of time
1373: [23:09:19] <PenguinMan98> oh, but heyday will let you create links that are not tied to pages
1374: [23:09:27] <PenguinMan98> i-lateral will not
1375: [23:10:25] <PenguinMan98> I think I know which is gonna get curbed
1376: [23:10:48] <Pyromanik> well no, it's a matter of applying the extension
1377: [23:11:03] <Pyromanik> heyday obviously does it as it _requires_ the extension.
1378: [23:11:21] <Pyromanik> i-lateral presumably does not. But that doesn't mean you can't apply it.
1379: [23:12:23] <PenguinMan98> what are you talking about?
1380: [23:12:29] <PenguinMan98> which extension?
1381: [23:12:32] <Pyromanik> https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-gridfieldextensions/blob/master/docs/en/index.md#orderable-rows
1382: [23:14:47] <Pyromanik> presuming it uses gridfield.
1383: [23:14:53] <Pyromanik> if not then you're a bit screwed yeah
1384: [23:15:24] <Pyromanik> Stomach, yeh.
1385: [23:15:32] <Pyromanik> fk, I gotta sleep :<
1386: [23:15:35] <Pyromanik> gl, hf!
1387: [23:15:38] * Pyromanik quit (Quit: Leaving)
1388: [23:17:45] <ss-helper> Re: [silverstripe-dev] Deprecation notices in 3.2 onwards - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/PnEqtlTC7NQ/AQEmb3gnUIIJ
1389: [23:19:18] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
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1392: [23:25:04] <PenguinMan98> and bossman chooses i-lateral
1393: [23:25:04] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1394: [23:25:08] <PenguinMan98> ok
1395: [23:25:32] <PenguinMan98> reasoning: we shouldnt' have external links in our menus anyway.
1396: [23:25:47] <PenguinMan98> but the sorting thing is really hokey
1397: [23:25:56] <PenguinMan98> oh well
1398: [23:26:00] <PenguinMan98> moving forward
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1400: [23:30:32] <Kowiana> Can't you get around the external link thing with redirect pages anyway?
1401: [23:32:05] <PenguinMan98> dunno
1402: [23:32:12] <PenguinMan98> done for the day
1403: [23:32:14] <PenguinMan98> see you all tomorrow
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1405: [23:37:04] <antmas> hungry
1406: [23:37:10] <antmas> almost hangry
1407: [23:37:35] * Colin[pi] has joined #silverstripe
1408: [23:37:56] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
1409: [23:38:10] <Colin[pi]> hey antant o/
1410: [23:39:30] <antmas> ._.
1411: [23:40:02] <Colin[pi]> you love it
1412: [23:40:22] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
1413: [23:40:26] <antmas> you know what I hat?
1414: [23:40:28] <antmas> hate*
1415: [23:40:35] <antmas> editing pdfs :|
1416: [23:40:39] <Colin[pi]> antmas: gypsies
1417: [23:40:40] <Colin[pi]> oh
1418: [23:40:43] <Colin[pi]> and pdfs
1419: [23:41:42] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah it's painful
1420: [23:44:14] <antmas> also gypsies
1421: [23:44:16] <antmas> fuck those guys
1422: [23:44:45] <Colin[pi]> :D
1423: [23:45:01] <Colin[pi]> antmas: how did your witchering go?
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1425: [23:47:16] <antmas> didn't play any last night :(
1426: [23:47:35] <Colin[pi]> antmas: what? family time? bah
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