#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 4 June 2015

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5: [00:11:59] <Stomach> chocolatemoose - you can if you write a function for it
6: [00:12:35] <Stomach> public function getMyThing() { return $this->MyThing;} private static $summary_fields = array('getMyThing' => 'My Thing');
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8: [00:14:41] <chocolatemoose> ah, thought I might have to do it that way
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11: [00:19:40] <antmas> woah Fallout 4 steam prepurchase up already
12: [00:23:34] <Stomach> when does it release
13: [00:24:40] <antmas> need to wait for delay announcements before speculating :P
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16: [00:48:28] <Stomach> :D :D
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32: [01:39:08] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4936 (3 - 0189367 : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
33: [01:39:08] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/747e87baebfb...0189367be298
34: [01:39:08] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/65339167
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40: [01:50:02] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/392536cb1738...358b7bfa0544
41: [01:50:02] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/65339200
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43: [01:55:16] <Stomach> holy irogue_
44: [01:55:31] <Stomach> chatting to SS folk on multiple fronts, lord help me
45: [01:55:54] <irogue_> lol
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47: [02:12:17] <mahfuz> What should be the filter to match a SS_Datetime field with todays date only not the time?
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50: [02:23:24] <antmas> looks like I'll be in Auckland end of Aug
51: [02:23:45] <antmas> be keen to catchup with folks for a drink :D
52: [02:28:44] <irogue_> y'all should be going to php conference too
53: [02:28:59] <antmas> when's that?
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55: [02:33:04] <Stomach> antmas hell yeah
56: [02:33:36] <irogue_> antmas: 2-4 sept
57: [02:33:37] <irogue_> http://2015.phpconference.org.nz/speakers/
58: [02:34:07] <DanaeNZ> Oooh, I didn’t get to go last year
59: [02:34:09] <DanaeNZ> too busy
60: [02:35:10] <DanaeNZ> 3 silverstripers, heheh, nice
61: [02:36:11] <Stomach> irogue_ - conference request sent
62: [02:36:13] <Stomach> :D
63: [02:38:47] <irogue_> DanaeNZ: last year we hired one of the speakers (Chris) so I guess we have to try and do that again
64: [02:39:05] <DanaeNZ> gotta keep up appearances
65: [02:41:21] <ss23> More SilverStriper's than woman!
66: [02:48:57] <antmas> irogue_: awww I'll be at teched then :<
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68: [02:51:23] <antmas> 31st till 4th
69: [02:51:32] <antmas> will be there on the weekend too though
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72: [02:58:37] <mahfuz> Could anyone please let me know - What should be the filter to match a SS_Datetime field with todays date only not the time?
73: [02:59:56] <simon_w|air> mahfuz, ->where('DATE("NameOfField") = CURDATE()')
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77: [03:07:30] <UncleCheese> how does selenium work?
78: [03:07:40] <DanaeNZ> maaaaaaagic
79: [03:07:42] <UncleCheese> if i want to make my browser do repetitive things?
80: [03:07:49] <DanaeNZ> we had a selenium server at infinity
81: [03:07:51] <UncleCheese> i'm on the download page
82: [03:07:53] <UncleCheese> and i don't get it
83: [03:07:56] <UncleCheese> there's no button
84: [03:08:18] <DanaeNZ> it’s like unit testing but under a few set environments, iirc
85: [03:08:23] <ss23> yeah, it's like
86: [03:08:24] <UncleCheese> right, but like
87: [03:08:25] <UncleCheese> what is it?
88: [03:08:26] <ss23> you have a browser running the plugin
89: [03:08:33] <ss23> then you, in your testing, include the selenium plugin
90: [03:08:38] <ss23> configure it with the IP of the browser box
91: [03:08:38] <UncleCheese> like what the eff do i do with this? http://www.seleniumhq.org/download/
92: [03:08:43] <ss23> then in the unit testing it like, does the things
93: [03:08:52] <DanaeNZ> ie, magic
94: [03:08:57] <UncleCheese> wait, i have to do something on the server?
95: [03:09:00] <ss23> UncleCheese: it isn't anything on its own
96: [03:09:13] <ss23> UncleCheese: You need two things, yeah. A browser, and a thing running your tests
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98: [03:09:17] <ss23> A thing running code
99: [03:09:19] <ss23> Rather
100: [03:09:24] <ss23> So, the thing running your code you set up with those "langinage bindings" things
101: [03:09:25] <UncleCheese> stupidest waste of time ever
102: [03:09:30] <ss23> Common one is PHP unit bindings
103: [03:09:38] <ss23> Then you combine that with the browser/server stuff
104: [03:09:47] <ss23> The PHP talks to the browser in code being like ->go to google.com
105: [03:09:51] <ss23> ->expect 'im the google bitch'
106: [03:09:52] <ss23> etc
107: [03:10:10] <ss23> UncleCheese: It's the best at what it is, but what you need might not be it
108: [03:10:19] <ss23> What do you need?
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110: [03:12:18] <UncleCheese> i need to automate minimax
111: [03:12:21] <UncleCheese> so i never have to do a timesheet again
112: [03:12:28] <ss23> Um
113: [03:12:35] <ss23> How do you "automate" it?
114: [03:12:42] <ss23> It's select the task, click "start", then click again when done
115: [03:12:47] <ss23> I don't think an interface can get much more automated
116: [03:12:55] <ss23> Like, I don't think you can automate saying "I'm done with this task"
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118: [03:13:00] <UncleCheese> because i've been here for 53 weeks now, and my timesheet has been the same every week
119: [03:13:00] <ss23> Beyond clicking the "I'm done"
120: [03:13:06] <ss23> oh I see
121: [03:13:06] <ss23> :D
122: [03:13:11] <Phlunk3> lol
123: [03:13:11] <UncleCheese> it's pointless
124: [03:13:17] <UncleCheese> but now they're crackign down on me
125: [03:13:32] <Phlunk3> be thankful you don't have timesheet system like I built for my colleagues ;)
126: [03:13:35] <ss23> Minimax has an API probably
127: [03:13:38] <ss23> Rather
128: [03:13:40] <ss23> Workflow max is
129: [03:13:42] <UncleCheese> it does
130: [03:13:46] <ss23> That's probably the beter place to automate that kind of thing
131: [03:13:47] <UncleCheese> i've tried just doing it all in console
132: [03:13:50] <ss23> ./fudge-timesheets.php
133: [03:13:54] <UncleCheese> but i hit a wall
134: [03:14:03] <UncleCheese> haha
135: [03:14:04] <UncleCheese> not bad
136: [03:14:09] <UncleCheese> yeah, i think i'll try that
137: [03:14:11] <UncleCheese> here goes
138: [03:14:23] <UncleCheese> fudge-timesheets.phar
139: [03:15:03] <antmas> lol
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141: [03:16:05] <ss23> * * * * * fudgeit.php
142: [03:16:07] <ss23> every minute
143: [03:16:09] <ss23> more fudging
144: [03:17:07] <antmas> asb fastnet down :<
145: [03:19:42] <irogue_> westpac one isn't
146: [03:20:23] <antmas> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/69094304/rotting-meat-in-abandoned-car-creates-a-stink
147: [03:21:22] <xyphoid> haha i wrote an addon for our tracker just to help me do timesheets
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149: [03:21:36] <xyphoid> by visually showing me my week and all the white space
150: [03:21:39] <mahfuz> Thanks simon_w|air: can I use the same in filter as well?
151: [03:21:48] <xyphoid> technical solution to social problem GO
152: [03:21:56] <simon_w|air> mahfuz, no
153: [03:22:19] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: nipppppyyyyssssssss
154: [03:22:37] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: that's it. Getting one on way home.
155: [03:22:55] <DanaeNZ> the only thing bad about nippy’s is that it should come in bigger cartons
156: [03:23:35] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: they could call it “Areolas"
157: [03:23:50] <DanaeNZ> hahhahahaha
158: [03:23:52] * irogue_ actually giggles out loud
159: [03:23:58] <DanaeNZ> I DID
160: [03:24:32] <DanaeNZ> Brb, just popping down to suck on som Areolas
161: [03:26:18] <mahfuz> simon_w|air what should I write in this filter to get data like above ->filter(array('BirthDate' => SS_Datetime::now()))
162: [03:27:15] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: that was gold
163: [03:27:19] <antmas> :D
164: [03:27:23] * Ryan-Toast bows
165: [03:28:37] * antmas does a little nod
166: [03:29:27] <DanaeNZ> i think every workplace should have someone hired fulltime to just find relevant hilarious gifs for everyone
167: [03:29:35] <DanaeNZ> ain’t nobody got time fo dat
168: [03:30:39] <irogue_> thats why we have giphy in slack
169: [03:30:42] <Ryan-Toast> I have time fo dat
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171: [03:30:49] <irogue_> and the #gifbiffers channel
172: [03:31:06] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I was thinking about this, now that you have DanaeNZ there, you have more time for Friday #silverstripe gifs
173: [03:31:06] <antmas> :D
174: [03:31:32] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/CLERcTe.gif
175: [03:32:19] <DanaeNZ> excellenntttt
176: [03:32:19] <antmas> XD
177: [03:32:22] <antmas> Ron :D
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179: [03:32:44] <irogue_> is one of those days where i need another caffeine
180: [03:33:44] <Colin[pi]> it is indeed irogue_
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182: [03:49:56] <spronk> fuck chrome
183: [03:49:57] <spronk> god damnit opera why did you have to ditch presto
184: [03:50:35] <spronk> hey man
185: [03:50:53] <spronk> i heard you had these tabs open. so i'll just forget what they were for you, all good
186: [03:51:16] <irogue_> wat
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188: [03:51:34] <spronk> the 'recently closed' list needs to persist indefinitely
189: [03:51:41] <spronk> i closed computer
190: [03:51:44] <spronk> something opened chrome
191: [03:51:46] <spronk> i closed it
192: [03:51:56] <spronk> all the tabs i was going to restore now gone
193: [03:51:57] <spronk> :@
194: [03:52:14] <ss23> lol
195: [03:52:18] <ss23> yeah
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197: [03:55:31] <ss23> dumb things in silverstripe #129021390 - Object::useCustomClass doesn't give an error if it doesn't work, it just silently fails
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201: [04:23:26] <spronk> anyone know any places that do discounted or probono for nonprofits?
202: [04:25:41] <ss23> discounted probono what?
203: [04:26:45] <spronk> websites
204: [04:26:50] <ss23> oic
205: [04:26:50] <DanaeNZ> spronk: specifically silverstripe?
206: [04:26:55] <spronk> not specifically
207: [04:27:12] <spronk> its for a multiple births club... they're using wugloo diy builder atm and it's just shit
208: [04:27:39] <DanaeNZ> i used to work at this place ages ago: http://www.websitebuilder.nz/free-websites-for-charity.html
209: [04:27:50] <DanaeNZ> but the cms is house build, in java + jsp
210: [04:27:57] <DanaeNZ> so it’s prreeetttyyyy nasty
211: [04:27:59] <spronk> hmm
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213: [04:32:37] <spronk> noone?
214: [04:33:53] <longmog> aww spronky donky
215: [04:34:09] <spronk> lol
216: [04:34:15] <spronk> donky?
217: [04:34:18] <spronk> the fuck is a donky
218: [04:34:25] <longmog> a beast without an e
219: [04:34:35] <longmog> it's a play on a contemporary idiom
220: [04:34:39] <simon_w|air> Catalyst does a decent amount of NFP work
221: [04:34:51] <simon_w|air> Perhaps adrexia knows if that's discounted
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224: [04:42:44] <mahfuz> Can anyone please help me why I am not getting any dataobjects here - RealEstateRegisteredUsersPayment::get()->filter(array('NextPaymentDate' => SS_Datetime::now()->Date())); // NextPaymentDate is SS_Datetime field
225: [04:43:55] <Ryan-Toast> NextPaymentDate:GreaterThan ?
226: [04:45:19] <mahfuz> I want get the objects whose NextPaymentDate is today's date
227: [04:46:18] <Ryan-Toast> well now will be a timestamp I believe.
228: [04:47:19] <Ryan-Toast> Exit the SS_Datetime::now() and compare it to the NextPaymentDate in your database
229: [04:49:20] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: simon_w|air said this ages ago: ->where('DATE("NameOfField") = CURDATE()')
230: [04:49:32] <mahfuz> Thanks Ryan-Toast: NextPaymentDate:GreaterThan works as the logic
231: [04:50:07] <mahfuz> But he said I can't use that in filter DanaeNZ
232: [04:50:29] <DanaeNZ> yeah cos it’s a different function
233: [04:50:36] <DanaeNZ> where()
234: [04:50:41] <DanaeNZ> instead of filter()
235: [04:52:03] <mahfuz> Thanks DanaeNZ
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239: [05:03:41] <stecman> Hey all, has there ever been any PRs/issues/threads about allowing custom/nested template paths like "templates/Includes/foo/bar.ss", "templates/foo/bar/baz.ss"? I've been searching around on Github and the internet and can't find any threads about this
240: [05:03:54] <stecman> seems like it's something that would've been discussed at some point
241: [05:10:00] <irogue_> stecman: Includes and Layout are hardcoded, but you can nest within them - but they're all just treated as if they're in the same folder
242: [05:10:24] <irogue_> can use it for keeping the files tidy, but if you do templates/Includes/foo/bar.ss you still just do <% include bar %> in the template
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244: [05:11:24] <stecman> ah ok, thanks
245: [05:11:32] <mahfuz> Hey guys how can I replace a SS_Datetime field by adding 1 month. This doesn't work $paymentinfo->NextPaymentDate = $paymentinfo->NextPaymentDate->setValue(strtotime('+1 month'));
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248: [05:22:11] <mahfuz> Can anyone please help me with the above. I have googled but couldn't figure it out.
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251: [05:31:18] <mahfuz> Finally I figured it out. It seems very confusing to me working with PHP and SilverStripe Datetime
252: [05:31:28] <mahfuz> This worked - $paymentinfo->NextPaymentDate = $paymentinfo->NextPaymentDate + strtotime('+1 month');
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262: [06:07:13] <antmas> evening all o/
263: [06:07:16] <antmas> morning*
264: [06:08:59] <irogue_> police running around with rifles at britomart apparently
265: [06:09:03] <irogue_> think I might not leave work just yet
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268: [06:11:25] <longmog> https://twitter.com/hiredbeard/status/606342236616335360
269: [06:12:11] <antmas> irogue_: o_o
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289: [07:02:57] <Robke> hello :)
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291: [07:04:01] <Robke> is there any big difference between environment Live and Dev? im askking because on live( my UDF works perfectly with IE 10 11) but in DEV it doesnt work at all, maybe someone knows why? :)
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293: [07:06:58] <Robke> wmk, maybe you have any ideas?
294: [07:07:04] <Robke> hi btw
295: [07:07:11] <wmk> ?
296: [07:07:19] <Robke> is there any big difference between environment Live and Dev? im askking because on live( my UDF works perfectly with IE 10 11) but in DEV it doesnt work at all, maybe someone knows why? :)
297: [07:07:23] <wmk> UDF?
298: [07:07:29] <Robke> user defined forms
299: [07:07:39] * wmk wonders why everyone is using that stuff
300: [07:07:53] <wmk> well, maybe in live you included the javascript in your combined_files statement, in dev not?
301: [07:07:58] <Robke> because clients wants to have their own forms :D
302: [07:08:13] <Robke> actually im not combining js at all
303: [07:08:25] <wmk> caching?
304: [07:08:40] <wmk> normally the difference between dev and live is error handling.
305: [07:08:54] <wmk> and what you define to be different (caching, combined files etc...)
306: [07:09:02] <Robke> hm :)
307: [07:09:17] <wmk> and be honest: how often will client change the form?
308: [07:09:25] * masnun is now known as masnun|away
309: [07:09:26] <wmk> if you want a real good form with some extras: do it yourself
310: [07:10:04] <Robke> normally i would do that, but the cliented wanted that forms would be cms editable... maybe in next years they will change one field.... in case...
311: [07:10:58] <wmk> yup, i tend to avoid UDF now as much as possible
312: [07:11:08] <wmk> !debug Robke
313: [07:11:08] <ss-helper> Robke: Maybe it's time to start xdebug and see whats going on... check out http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/developer_guides/debugging/ and http://xdebug.org/docs/
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315: [07:13:52] <wmk> weather is perfect today
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317: [07:19:24] <Robke> here in vilnius its not so good as it was yesterday... windy :(
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320: [07:20:53] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/0189367be298...836c8bf1c7eb
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339: [08:25:04] <Mike123> Hello :)
340: [08:25:32] <Mike123> is there a possibility to cropp image inserted through HTMLeditor ? (WYSWYG)
341: [08:26:46] <Mike123> i really need an answer
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348: [08:53:02] <ss-helper> Git workflow for the open source team - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/jG3Un5hvYVM/_yYfVtB7L4UJ
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354: [09:08:09] <antmas> kinda weird at night
355: [09:08:18] <antmas> all these different people :O
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360: [09:20:31] <GioVdK> Hello, does anyone have experience with Silverstripe on Windows with IIS? I've been asked if it is possible to add the matchType="IsDirectory" line in the web.config file but I'm used to handle friendly urls with linux + apache :p
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362: [09:30:08] <Mike123> s there a possibility to cropp image inserted through HTMLeditor ? (WYSWYG)
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366: [09:45:19] <Alboes> What time is the interview? it's not in my calendar anymore :(
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368: [09:46:54] <ss23> the interview?
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371: [09:49:22] <Alboes> sorry, was not for here...
372: [09:49:38] <ss23> lol
373: [09:49:42] <ss23> I was wondering...
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377: [09:54:05] <ss23> micmania1: :3
378: [09:54:10] <ss23> wasn't me
379: [09:54:30] <micmania1> I checked and it was up
380: [09:54:38] <micmania1> Had just sat doon to eat me tea :(
381: [09:54:51] <micmania1> had to go get me laptop just in case
382: [09:55:26] <micmania1> Good steak though ;)
383: [09:55:53] <ss23> I went to dead bread mexican place
384: [09:55:56] <ss23> was pretty good
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386: [09:56:08] <ss23> 2 for 1 magarhitas tonight
387: [09:56:09] <ss23> o/
388: [09:56:33] <micmania1> better than the jalepeno poppers from that place?
389: [09:57:32] <ss23> I forgot to get jalepeno poppers
390: [09:57:33] <ss23> fuck
391: [09:57:34] <ss23> :(
392: [09:57:43] <ss23> same place though
393: [09:59:26] <micmania1> ah nice
394: [10:00:01] <micmania1> I just turned rss off on that site earlier :p anything for a decent nights sleep
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403: [10:16:25] <Mike123> is there a possibility to cropp image inserted through HTMLeditor ? (WYSWYG)
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434: [13:10:10] <elgabbu> can a text field be set such that it has disabled attribute .... since are readonly transformation will completly change it from input to just text
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438: [13:16:27] <kinglozzer> elgabbu:
439: [13:16:31] <kinglozzer> Oops :P
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441: [13:16:40] <kinglozzer> ->setAttribute('disabled', true)
442: [13:16:50] <kinglozzer> Or I think there's a method, ->setDisabled(true) perhaps?
443: [13:17:08] <kinglozzer> Yeah, that's it, $field->setDisabled(true)
444: [13:19:23] <Mike123> guys, how can i cropp image which was inserted from WYSWYG ?
445: [13:27:22] <Mike123> someone ? !
446: [13:27:43] <swaiba> Mike123 use the focuspoint module via the fiels?
447: [13:27:47] <swaiba> *files
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451: [13:41:02] <Mike123> swaiba , can use short code for this ?
452: [13:41:48] <swaiba> Mike123 maybe you can, but I don't know that and didn't take your question that way
453: [13:41:48] <Mike123> i mean how to use it , i'm stuck a bit
454: [13:42:18] <Mike123> the thing is that i dont want to install another module :/
455: [13:45:56] <swaiba> sorry Mike123, you need help from someone else then
456: [13:46:01] <Mike123> i thing i cant use focuspoint module in HTML editor
457: [13:52:28] <kinglozzer> Mike123: There aren't any modules that I'm aware of for cropping images in the HtmlEditorField
458: [13:52:59] <kinglozzer> I'm afraid you/your CMS user might just need to do it before uploading
459: [13:56:54] <GastroGeek> Can someone have alook at this? im sure its me being stupid. I want a custom data object on the root level of the HomePage (not via a GridField) and have it store data etc... but i cant get it working. http://pastebin.com/ReLA3B2B
460: [13:59:34] <swaiba> GastroGeek - first thing is " $fields = array(..." $fileds should be a FieldList
461: [14:00:49] <swaiba> I guess I see your logic with "addFieldsToTab" usage later, but still $fields in getCMSFields should return FieldList
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463: [14:04:33] <Mike123> there is a way to get with shortcodes
464: [14:08:12] <GastroGeek> with array it shows i nthe UI but with FieldList, nothing shows?
465: [14:15:10] <GastroGeek> @swaiba ok so now i can see it in the UI using a fieldlist, but its not saving the data? any ideas pls?
466: [14:17:02] <swaiba> GastroGeek you need some custom code in onBeforeWrite or onAfterWrite for this as it isn't on the obect itself you want saving
467: [14:17:47] <GastroGeek> ahh, i see. so this only uses the dataobject as a template? it doesnt actually associate the two entities?
468: [14:18:19] <kinglozzer> Man... this before/after config stuff still tricks me every time
469: [14:18:41] <kinglozzer> I want my updateCMSFields() to be called after a modules, so I have to set my config block to Before: '#module', not after :S
470: [14:22:19] <swaiba> yeah that could be very annoying kinglozzer, isn't there a reorder function that could be hooked at the end maybe?that could be called
471: [14:24:44] <kinglozzer> I'm sure I saw a post somewhere where someone (Hamish?) said they were going to refactor it for 4.0... I can't find it, so perhaps it was a dream :P
472: [14:27:33] <swaiba> nice dream
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474: [14:30:20] <NETim> Morning.
475: [14:31:24] <NETim> Got an several existing dataobjects that extend dataobject. Is there any way to extend dataobject to allow inheritance of shared functions without losing the existing dataobjects/values?
476: [14:33:31] <swaiba> NETim make a DataExtension for DataObject?
477: [14:34:08] <NETim> Would that allow whatever functions are in the dataextension to be accessed by other objects that extend dataobject?
478: [14:36:20] <Mike123> how to get image by id ?
479: [14:37:22] <kinglozzer> Mike123: Image::get()->byID($id)
480: [14:37:43] <kinglozzer> NETim: Yep
481: [14:40:01] <NETim> Thanks guys. Success!
482: [14:40:37] <NETim> just 1 more question, how would one access the attributes of the dataobject? things like has_one?
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484: [14:41:14] <NETim> so DE extends DO. MyDO extends DO. How would i get MyDO->has_one from the dataextension (if any of that makes sense).
485: [14:43:05] <kinglozzer> NETim: $this->owner->RelationName()
486: [14:43:29] <NETim> Ah, I assumed there'd be a mistake in my explanation.
487: [14:44:05] <NETim> Not after the actual relation, I'm defining which fields to do something with in an array. How would they be accessed?
488: [14:44:30] <kinglozzer> NETim: I'm confused :P
489: [14:44:33] <kinglozzer> Do you mean get a list of has_ones?
490: [14:44:42] <kinglozzer> $this->owner->has_one() should return an array of all of them
491: [14:44:52] <NETim> Yeh. or get the contents of $has_one from my custom DO
492: [14:45:02] <NETim> Also, I may be confusing myself too :P
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522: [17:40:03] <blueman_> anyone on now familiar with silverstripe-fulltextsearch?
523: [17:40:19] <blueman_> the solr module...
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545: [20:40:15] <antmas> le moin all o/
546: [20:47:10] <antmas> o-
547: [20:48:43] <blueman_> has anyone on here ever setup the webdav on a remote solr server for the silverstripe-fulltextsearch module?
548: [20:49:45] <muskie9> blueman_ have you seen the solr module: https://github.com/nyeholt/silverstripe-solr never used it so not sure if it'd work for u
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551: [20:50:33] <antmas> oh that thing
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553: [21:01:59] <blueman_> antmus - yeah that's about as much as the documentation says too :p
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556: [21:06:44] <Pyromanik> So today I spent all afternoon looking into claims that one report shows thing another report doesn't (but should include). After four fucking hours I'm convinced that everthing is normal as I cannot replicate. I check id's in one, and they're in the other.
557: [21:07:02] <Pyromanik> turns out, they're filtering the report on the wrong thing then exporting to spreadsheet.
558: [21:07:08] <Pyromanik> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
559: [21:07:11] <antmas> Pyromanik: LOL
560: [21:07:25] <Pyromanik> Don't use reports on screen.
561: [21:07:26] <Pyromanik> ever.
562: [21:07:31] <muskie9> http://puu.sh/iczgR/7683179849.jpg
563: [21:07:32] <Pyromanik> it's against the spreadsheet code.
564: [21:07:34] <antmas> Pyromanik: do we have the same job?
565: [21:07:58] <Pyromanik> antmas, well, you know how local govt is in NZ?
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567: [21:08:04] <Pyromanik> EVERY FUCKING COMPANY IS LIKE THAT HERE
568: [21:08:19] <Pyromanik> hahaha muskie9
569: [21:09:01] <Pyromanik> best part was that the lass that reported it didn't check to see if I was right. She forwarded the email to another one (obviously who pointed out that the spreadsheets had different things in them in the first place).
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572: [21:09:40] <Pyromanik> the first lass has a brain. She comes back with "uhh yeah, I think it's because of the filters we use to limit to the current month (because they demand that the report spits out everything ever fucking delivered ever, as well as current orders)
573: [21:10:06] <zippy> wow.
574: [21:10:11] <antmas> sometimes I wonder how people like that get jobs
575: [21:10:20] <antmas> when people like us often find it hard
576: [21:10:32] <Pyromanik> So first lass points out that there's a discrepency in the spreadsheets. Second lass (line manager) takes this to mean that there's a serious issue with the system, and lodges a ticket with me.
577: [21:10:45] <zippy> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4148 + the removal of the flush token = flushes which happen in a second...
578: [21:10:56] <Pyromanik> I spend four fucking hours looking into it and double checking all the things, only to be unable to replicate and ending up closing the ticket wiht my head in my hands.
579: [21:11:32] <Pyromanik> antmas, the level of complete incompetency in this place is magical.
580: [21:11:56] <Pyromanik> it's just mindless data entry, no double checks, no verifications, just plotting shit willy nilly.
581: [21:11:58] <antmas> Pyromanik: mmm I know those feels
582: [21:12:13] <antmas> I 'close' more tickets than I 'complete' them for very similar reasons
583: [21:12:16] <Pyromanik> I swear it's been scientificially proven that spreadsheets take years off your life.
584: [21:12:31] <Pyromanik> They should come with the same warning that cigarettes do.
585: [21:12:36] <antmas> Pyromanik: +10
586: [21:12:52] <antmas> we had one staff member recently leave saying 'nothing on my pc I need to keep'
587: [21:12:58] <antmas> so helpdesk flushed her pc
588: [21:13:08] <Pyromanik> FIFTY BILLION SPREADSHEETS LOST FOREVER
589: [21:13:15] <antmas> only to find she'd been keeping work data on multiple versioned spreadsheets
590: [21:13:25] <zippy> it's just... incredible
591: [21:13:34] <Pyromanik> wow, versioned?
592: [21:13:37] <antmas> DON'T USE FUCKING SPREADSHEETS
593: [21:13:39] <Pyromanik> that's fucking... bullet time.
594: [21:13:41] <antmas> fuck
595: [21:13:53] <Pyromanik> Day in court: "I AM SAVING THE HUMAN RACE"
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597: [21:13:59] <antmas> GIS_Map_AManda_Data_1
598: [21:14:05] <antmas> think _2, _3, _4 etc
599: [21:14:21] <Pyromanik> oh, so not actually excel's version tracking thing
600: [21:14:25] <zippy> UncleCheese: You work with micmania1 in the office don't you?
601: [21:14:27] <antmas> no
602: [21:14:33] <Pyromanik> just good ol' .bak
603: [21:14:36] <Pyromanik> xD
604: [21:14:36] <antmas> Pyromanik: it's called retard versioning
605: [21:14:51] <Pyromanik> I want to start a government.
606: [21:15:01] <Pyromanik> it will exile these kind of people.
607: [21:15:03] <antmas> hooker and blackjack etc
608: [21:15:15] <Pyromanik> everyone will have to sit an aptitude test before starting.
609: [21:15:25] <Pyromanik> and if are ever found to be using spreadsheets, fired immediately.
610: [21:15:37] <antmas> "forget everything you know about pivot tables"
611: [21:15:41] <antmas> take the blue pill
612: [21:15:43] <Pyromanik> I'd be my goverenment so that's ok. No legal grounds for unfair dismissal.
613: [21:16:09] * antmas is wearing a fabulous blue wig
614: [21:16:13] <antmas> it's itchy as fuck
615: [21:16:14] <antmas> :<
616: [21:16:18] <Pyromanik> fantastic pic muskie9 :D
617: [21:16:37] <muskie9> I use that for my icon in our company chat
618: [21:16:55] <antmas> lol
619: [21:17:14] <muskie9> got tired of doing it manually every day
620: [21:17:19] <antmas> just did a count on my emails that contain this gif http://i.imgur.com/nCZoEXs.gif
621: [21:17:26] <antmas> 24 :D
622: [21:17:39] <antmas> all of them are 'support' related
623: [21:18:40] <zippy> antmas: as a rate payer I don't approve
624: [21:18:43] <zippy> not enough gifs
625: [21:19:09] <antmas> zippy: XD
626: [21:19:36] <muskie9> http://puu.sh/icBBK/d549bd2f16.gif
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628: [21:20:29] <antmas> muskie9: my face when someone asks me to fill in for helpdesk
629: [21:20:36] <muskie9> lol
630: [21:28:10] <antmas> TechEd tickets bought \o/
631: [21:28:30] <UncleCheese> zippy yes
632: [21:29:19] <zippy> UncleCheese: can you pass on, that zippy says his Config patch is fantastic! Removing the redirect token makes flushes super fast (not really even noticeable).
633: [21:29:25] <zippy> give him some warm fuzzies for the morning :)
634: [21:29:30] <UncleCheese> ah?
635: [21:29:35] <UncleCheese> what is the patch exactly?
636: [21:29:43] <zippy> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4148 + the removal of the flush token = flushes which happen in a second...
637: [21:29:50] <UncleCheese> what?!
638: [21:29:57] <UncleCheese> what's the tradeoff?
639: [21:30:15] <zippy> not sure yet, I am using it on my local with this website I am developing
640: [21:30:27] <zippy> and it's just so nice to flush and not wait 5-6 seconds
641: [21:31:09] <zippy> a bit more memory he said. I haven't done any memory tests or anything yet, just wanted to run it and see if any bugs/issues
642: [21:31:36] <antmas> how much more?
643: [21:31:41] <zippy> To get the full effect removing the redirect flush token is a good idea too, otherwise it fires up Silverstripe twice, which is a waste
644: [21:31:52] <zippy> like 0.5 mb in his tests I think
645: [21:31:54] <zippy> read the pull
646: [21:31:59] <antmas> that's nothing]
647: [21:32:07] <zippy> should go into a v4 and v4 cut next week :)
648: [21:32:34] <antmas> zippy: fog! :D
649: [21:32:37] <zippy> UncleCheese: anyway, can you pass on a 'cheers' for me. It's made my day better
650: [21:33:11] <zippy> Normally it feels like going for a run and then having to pause for 5 seconds every few minutes, that shit drives me up the wall
651: [21:33:59] <Pyromanik> antmas, wait, you send that gif out as a reply to tickets?
652: [21:34:24] <antmas> Pyromanik: sometimes :)
653: [21:34:34] <Pyromanik> hahahhahaha, classy.
654: [21:34:47] <Pyromanik> I would love to do that, but we're talking about a clucky as fuck set of fragile people :<
655: [21:36:29] <Pyromanik> zippy, how do you secure the site against flush abuse though?
656: [21:36:39] <zippy> Pyromanik: we have discussed this before :)
657: [21:36:45] <Pyromanik> we have?
658: [21:36:57] <zippy> site is in dev mode, or, command line, or, the IP of the request is on a white list
659: [21:37:03] <Pyromanik> I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of the flush token...
660: [21:37:07] <Pyromanik> oh, whitelisted ips
661: [21:37:08] <Pyromanik> yeh
662: [21:37:17] <zippy> the whitelist IP doesn't mean full dev mode
663: [21:37:22] <Pyromanik> mmm.
664: [21:37:31] <Pyromanik> or admin?
665: [21:37:35] <zippy> since I think that is dangerious (to be browsing production site in dev mode, caches and shit)
666: [21:37:36] <zippy> no
667: [21:37:42] <Pyromanik> nah, silly. gotta be a dev to need flush anyway
668: [21:37:43] <zippy> not or admin because that is when shit gets real
669: [21:38:00] <zippy> have to check "is db setup", setup the session, check this and check that
670: [21:38:16] <zippy> which spawned that whole error flush chain thing
671: [21:43:29] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
672: [21:43:34] <MichalKleiner> hmmm, stupid question... but... is there a CWP Vagrant machine? :-D
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675: [21:47:19] <Pyromanik> oops, accidentally the cord from the computer :<
676: [21:47:56] <Pyromanik> zippy, did you make a PR or are you talking about micmania1's?
677: [21:48:20] <zippy> Pyromanik: I am talking about micmania1's. I have not done a PR for the disable of the error chain
678: [21:48:31] <zippy> thats just something I did local as a proof of concept
679: [21:48:32] <Pyromanik> cool.
680: [21:48:44] <zippy> I would probably have to do a RFC or something for that
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683: [22:00:23] <Ryan-Toast> can you pass a ClassName to the create() method?
684: [22:00:42] <Ryan-Toast> i.e Object::create()->setClassName(‘foo’);
685: [22:01:01] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: or
686: [22:01:11] <zippy> $foo = 'MyClass'; $foo::create();
687: [22:01:27] <Ryan-Toast> Ah, cool. didn’t know if you could use a string or not.
688: [22:01:50] <zippy> same with $somthing->$function(); where $function = 'doSomething';
689: [22:02:08] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: sweet, that works perfectly.
690: [22:03:35] <DanaeNZ> ModelAdmin csv import - does it look at the getExportFields method at all?
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693: [22:06:21] <MichalKleiner> DanaeNZ: I wouldn't think so...
694: [22:06:23] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
695: [22:06:38] <MichalKleiner> method for getting export fields vs importing data..
696: [22:06:41] <DanaeNZ> MichalKleiner: must be a static I’m missing
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699: [22:09:58] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: le Nippyyyyyyyyyy's
700: [22:10:10] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I bought two yestersay.
701: [22:10:15] <Ryan-Toast> Planning ahead.
702: [22:10:48] <antmas> lol
703: [22:10:55] <antmas> always keep a Nippy's on standby
704: [22:13:16] <Pyromanik> zippy, Ryan-Toast only since php 5.4 iirc
705: [22:13:33] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Ah, nice :D
706: [22:13:37] <Pyromanik> or am I getting confused with 5.2->5.3
707: [22:13:57] <Pyromanik> idk, it wasn't a thing (even though $functionName() was), now it is.
708: [22:14:07] <Pyromanik> yeah I think it was actually 5.3 that brought that in.
709: [22:14:32] <Pyromanik> Nippy's chocolate godlike.
710: [22:14:40] <Pyromanik> well, was when I was a kid :<
711: [22:14:44] <Pyromanik> dunno about these day!
712: [22:14:45] <Pyromanik> s
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714: [22:16:02] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, but just so you know, Object::create($ClassName)
715: [22:16:05] <Pyromanik> is a thing.
716: [22:16:17] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Churbo
717: [22:16:28] <Pyromanik> Only works if you call Object:: though.
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719: [22:17:11] <Pyromanik> zippy, ^^ just so you know too :P
720: [22:18:57] <Pyromanik> Anyway, I'm done like. lataz
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722: [22:20:27] <zippy> true thats right
723: [22:20:33] <zippy> :) ta
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727: [22:27:52] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: uncompressed fallout 4 trailer makes it look SO much better
728: [22:28:01] <antmas> fuck youtube compression
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731: [22:31:52] <mahfuz> Good Morning Guys
732: [22:31:52] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: yarp
733: [22:32:11] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Realised that I won’t have a computer when it gets released...
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738: [22:46:35] <zippy> antmas: god damn rain
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740: [22:52:34] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: oh man
741: [22:52:37] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: :(
742: [22:52:45] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Will probs have a laptop.
743: [22:52:48] <Ryan-Toast> Maybe.
744: [22:52:50] <antmas> zippy: it never ends :(
745: [22:53:08] <zippy> Need to get to Nelson.... and I was going to walk into Richmond and catch the bus..
746: [22:53:16] <zippy> (single car, wife has it)
747: [22:53:19] <zippy> might taxi
748: [22:53:32] <antmas> taxi would be like $30 though wouldn;t it?
749: [22:53:34] <antmas> idek
750: [22:53:42] <zippy> i'll bill it to somebody
751: [22:53:46] <zippy> tdc will do
752: [22:53:46] <zippy> :)
753: [22:53:47] <antmas> lol
754: [22:54:16] <zippy> I am sure there is a question in here I can bill you for and just send it into accounts :)
755: [22:54:30] <camfindlay> UncleCheese: you about?
756: [22:54:37] <UncleCheese> hi
757: [22:54:54] <antmas> zippy: just send it as a late submission on the LTP. People have actually done that.
758: [22:55:03] <zippy> LTP?
759: [22:55:08] <antmas> long term plan
760: [22:55:13] <zippy> ah yeap
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762: [22:55:28] <antmas> lol people send it all kinds of crap
763: [22:55:38] <zippy> bills/
764: [22:55:42] <antmas> mm
765: [22:55:48] <antmas> year old parking fines
766: [22:55:49] <antmas> etc
767: [22:55:55] <zippy> lol
768: [22:57:15] <irogue_> [10:53:32] <antmas> taxi would be like $30 though wouldn;t it?
769: [22:58:43] <antmas> last time I got a taxi here I got Hillbilly and it was free :D
770: [23:00:33] <zippy> Hillbilly?
771: [23:00:42] <irogue_> I love that you say $30 like thats an expensive taxi fare
772: [23:02:05] <antmas> zippy: that Nelson City Taxi driver, Hillbilly
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774: [23:02:15] <antmas> it's his actual name on the card on the dashboard
775: [23:02:40] <antmas> irogue_: it is considering you're only travelling like 3kms
776: [23:02:42] <antmas> or less
777: [23:02:54] <irogue_> ok yeah thats super expensive for that distance
778: [23:03:01] <antmas> mm
779: [23:03:04] <irogue_> work to home for me is $80 tho
780: [23:03:13] <antmas> how many ks you reckon?
781: [23:03:21] <irogue_> lots
782: [23:03:31] <antmas> yeah they all scale differently
783: [23:03:39] <irogue_> 27km
784: [23:05:06] <antmas> that'd be over $100 here
785: [23:05:58] <irogue_> its ~$50 by uber
786: [23:06:02] <antmas> they change their rates all the time and never advertise it :|
787: [23:06:31] <antmas> zippy: what does the bus cost to and from richmond/nelson?
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789: [23:06:37] <antmas> like, per month
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791: [23:08:21] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
792: [23:09:20] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol you playing Ellen: Degenerous again?
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794: [23:14:44] <Colin[pi]> lol
795: [23:14:46] <Colin[pi]> o/
796: [23:14:53] <Colin[pi]> the launcher was still open :$
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798: [23:26:56] <Ryan-Toast> What should I do for getters and setters in a FormField when I want the scope to be used in the constructor?
799: [23:27:12] <Ryan-Toast> Do I have to pass the values to the constructor? Because I don’t relaly like that.
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801: [23:32:15] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: your own form field?
802: [23:32:21] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: ye
803: [23:32:37] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: pass into constructor I guess
804: [23:32:39] <Colin[pi]> :\
805: [23:32:51] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Yeah, doing that :(
806: [23:33:01] <Colin[pi]> i don't like it either
807: [23:38:02] <antmas> zippy: this track is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50en9WBehy8&list=PLtm40rX-YnThnchgibDQKdaHvHFqN4Na9&feature=player_detailpage
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809: [23:38:30] <t|m> hey guys
810: [23:38:46] <antmas> t|m: o/
811: [23:38:48] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: needs more sun king.
812: [23:38:57] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: +1
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814: [23:39:11] <t|m> i'm looking for a way to filter by versioned status in modeladmin
815: [23:39:20] <t|m> anyone ever done something along those lines?
816: [23:39:41] <t|m> like having a dropdown to filter published, draft changes, unpublished
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