#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 20 May 2015

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1: [00:00:01] * irogue_ has joined #silverstripe
2: [00:02:14] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
3: [00:02:52] <antmas> spronk2: irogue_ o/
4: [00:03:02] <spronk2> \o
5: [00:04:32] <irogue_> o/
6: [00:04:36] * babak has joined #silverstripe
7: [00:07:52] <zippy> spronk2: new 15" out, upgrading? :)
8: [00:08:01] <spronk2> is it?
9: [00:08:39] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
10: [00:08:42] <antmas> wholey phuck expensive
11: [00:11:00] <simon_w|air> Someone should give me the monies be so I can upgrade
12: [00:11:21] <irogue_> isn't giving you money your employer's job?
13: [00:11:45] <simon_w|air> That shouldn't stop other people doing it
14: [00:12:31] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: actually, technically, giving simon_w|air money is simon_w|air's job
15: [00:12:32] <antmas> simon_w|air: credit card!
16: [00:12:32] <Colin[pi]> ;)
17: [00:12:48] <simon_w|air> antmas, is maxed out already!
18: [00:12:52] <zippy> Agdgdgwngo?
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20: [00:13:01] <antmas> simon_w|air: lol gg life
21: [00:13:47] <simon_w|air> Moving and getting married is expensive :(
22: [00:15:11] <antmas> pro-tip, make parents pay for wedding :D
23: [00:15:37] <simon_w|air> Oh, they paid for the expensive stuff
24: [00:15:43] <simon_w|air> But all the little things add up
25: [00:17:25] <antmas> last wedding I was at, the bride and groom asked for donations to the honeymoon costs.
26: [00:17:37] <antmas> though that was a good idea, although slighly cheeky :P
27: [00:18:39] <simon_w|air> A honeymoon is the next savings target, after paying off the CC
28: [00:21:01] <simon_w|air> Or, once a bank gives me money
29: [00:24:43] <Stomach> zippy - we are gonna smash them
30: [00:27:19] <Colin[pi]> antmas: giving money to the bride/groom is the norm in brazil
31: [00:29:08] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
32: [00:29:29] <irogue_> https://twitter.com/nzdrug/status/600817861930561536
33: [00:33:25] <spronk2> o_O
34: [00:37:44] <irogue_> the NZ Drug Foundation are great
35: [00:38:22] <xyphoid> a wedding present to the travel fund has been really common among ones i've gone to recently
36: [00:38:57] <xyphoid> nobody wants House Stuff because everyone's already living together before the wedding
37: [00:44:07] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
38: [00:46:12] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
39: [00:51:36] * Ryan-Toast quit (Quit: Ryan-Toast)
40: [00:55:40] * ss23 has joined #silverstripe
41: [01:02:14] * irogue_ coughs all over ss23
42: [01:09:12] * ss23 dies
43: [01:09:30] * Colin[pi] chuckles
44: [01:09:31] * ss23
45: [01:09:40] <ss23> oh nope, just once
46: [01:10:52] * Ryan-Toast has joined #silverstripe
47: [01:11:47] <antmas> Colin[pi]: xyphoid yeah i guess it is pretty common
48: [01:11:52] <antmas> it's not a silly idea
49: [01:12:10] <antmas> most people already have like 2 juicers, 10 random vases and sheets anyway
50: [01:12:14] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
51: [01:15:51] <antmas> heh, I love how prezzy card charges a fee to check the balance on your prezzy card
52: [01:15:54] <antmas> a+
53: [01:16:56] <spronk2> seriousldy?
54: [01:17:01] <spronk2> wow prezzy card
55: [01:17:17] <antmas> http://www.prezzycard.co.nz/how-prezzy-card-works/
56: [01:17:24] * ss-helper has joined #silverstripe
57: [01:17:43] <spronk2> Every time you use your card the unused value is automatically adjusted. You can check yours online anytime for free or phone 0800 450 509 (a fee will apply).
58: [01:17:44] <spronk2> brah
59: [01:17:46] <spronk2> free?
60: [01:17:50] <spronk2> unless phone
61: [01:18:00] <antmas> yeah but 0800
62: [01:18:02] <spronk2> lawl
63: [01:18:08] <spronk2> THAT"LL BE
64: [01:18:11] <spronk2> tALL YOUR REMAINING BALNACE
65: [01:18:12] <antmas> wtf is the fee for?
66: [01:18:12] <spronk2> THANKS
67: [01:18:13] <spronk2> KBYE
68: [01:18:23] <antmas> huehuehue
69: [01:18:47] <irogue_> thats the "wtf use the internet you noob" fee
70: [01:19:02] <antmas> irogue_: +1
71: [01:19:14] * r_hector quit (Remote host closed the connection)
72: [01:19:23] * Tanger has joined #silverstripe
73: [01:19:29] <Stomach> nah you use the internet
74: [01:19:30] <Stomach> hah!
75: [01:19:31] <Stomach> take that
76: [01:19:38] <antmas> the 'website' you use to view the balance looks to be about 20 years old
77: [01:20:04] <spronk2> COBOL
78: [01:20:10] <antmas> https://www.prepaidaccount.co.nz/Prezzycustomer/html/LoginFrame.html
79: [01:20:19] <antmas> 'LoginFrame.html
80: [01:20:22] <spronk2> woow
81: [01:20:44] <Stomach> "Identity not verified"
82: [01:20:46] <spronk2> holy fuck
83: [01:20:53] <spronk2> look at the source
84: [01:20:54] <Stomach> "Your connection to www.prepaidaccount.co.nz is encrypted with obsolete cryptography."
85: [01:20:54] <antmas> hahaha
86: [01:21:14] <irogue_> I don't think Prezzy cards are high on nzpost's care list. They're just a quick moneymaker for them
87: [01:21:17] <antmas> "THE HTML CODE BEGINS HERE"
88: [01:21:34] <antmas> irogue_: mm, but they are pretty popular
89: [01:21:37] <simon_w|air> Fuck Angular
90: [01:21:45] <Stomach> amen simon_w|air
91: [01:21:52] <simon_w|air> Why do you have scope.watch and scope.$watch THAT DO DIFFERENT THINGS
92: [01:22:01] <antmas> like 90% of xmas presents when you're studying that isn't just cash
93: [01:22:26] <irogue_> i've never actually got/had a prezzy card tbh
94: [01:22:55] <antmas> I've had a few
95: [01:23:08] <antmas> this one I checked has 1 week left on it before expiry :P
96: [01:23:21] <irogue_> I used to get a ton of MTA vouchers tho
97: [01:23:22] <antmas> $17.25 balance
98: [01:23:35] * antmas is off to bottle store after work :D
99: [01:23:54] <irogue_> the worst was when people gave me DSE vouchers and I'm like "wtf I don't want to shop there"
100: [01:24:16] <antmas> mm or EB games vouchers
101: [01:24:38] <DanaeNZ> Bottle store? now that’s a good idea
102: [01:25:02] <antmas> roll in like a baller with my $17 prezzy card yo
103: [01:25:09] <antmas> 'I'll take me some scrumpy!'
104: [01:25:32] <spronk2> THEY SEE ME ROLLIN'
105: [01:25:34] <irogue_> my grandfather recently gave me a bottle of Jager, that was a surprising but appreciated gift :P
106: [01:25:52] <antmas> irogue_: that is pretty random
107: [01:26:05] <irogue_> much better than a fucking whitcoulls voucher like he always used to give me
108: [01:26:09] <irogue_> who buys physical books anymore?
109: [01:26:26] <simon_w|air> I'll take it :p
110: [01:26:27] <antmas> the only beverage my gdad gifted me was a flat bottle of lime soda
111: [01:26:29] <antmas> \o/
112: [01:26:46] <antmas> 'It's good for ya stomach!'
113: [01:26:59] <Stomach> no
114: [01:28:55] <simon_w|air> Stomach is good for ya stomach!
115: [01:31:31] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
116: [01:43:40] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
117: [01:47:37] <Ryan-Toast> So snapchat tells people when you screenshot conversations… I thought it was just images.
118: [01:48:12] <DanaeNZ> haha good ol snapchat, always knows how to make things awkward
119: [01:48:47] <simon_w|air> Revoke its access to your photos and it's got no way of knowing
120: [01:49:02] <Ryan-Toast> Actually?
121: [01:49:20] <simon_w|air> I can't think of any other way it can tell if you've taken a screenshot
122: [01:49:26] <simon_w|air> At least on iOS
123: [01:49:59] <irogue_> if you're on android you're screwed tho cos android has no way of revoking permissions - it's all or nothing
124: [01:50:00] <Ryan-Toast> I would have thiought it hooked into the screenshot action.
125: [01:50:12] <simon_w|air> Oh, there's a notification for it now
126: [01:50:19] <Ryan-Toast> Because you can disable screenshots in app
127: [01:50:28] <Ryan-Toast> for banks and shit
128: [01:50:36] <spronk2> haha
129: [01:50:41] <irogue_> that's fucking annoying btw
130: [01:50:45] <spronk2> so Ryan-Toast just totally "saved" some titties
131: [01:50:52] <antmas> lol
132: [01:50:55] <Ryan-Toast> spronk2: “Conversation”
133: [01:50:59] <Ryan-Toast> not image :P
134: [01:51:01] <spronk2> ;D
135: [01:51:12] <irogue_> why the hell shouldn't i be able to screenshot a payment in my bank? i can on desktop, what's the point of restricting it on mobile
136: [01:51:24] <spronk2> irogue_ for some banks its dodgy as fuck
137: [01:51:36] <antmas> irogue_: because people are more stupid with mobiles then they are with pcs
138: [01:51:38] <spronk2> because some banks do end of business processing and you can cancel that shit
139: [01:51:46] <simon_w|air> Because Android! :p
140: [01:51:50] <irogue_> spronk2: again though, not restricted on desktop
141: [01:51:56] <spronk2> cos can't
142: [01:52:06] <irogue_> people shouldn't be accepting screenshots as 100% proof of payment
143: [01:52:11] <spronk2> mm.
144: [01:52:20] <irogue_> OH LOOK I PHOTOSHOP'D UP A PAYMENT SCREEN
145: [01:52:24] <antmas> never used snapchat
146: [01:52:32] <irogue_> blocking screenshots is the least of their problems
147: [01:52:32] <spronk2> neither
148: [01:52:57] <antmas> 'check out these leaked snapchats'
149: [01:54:12] <irogue_> p.s. install screen recording software, doesn't trigger screenshot action ;)
150: [01:54:48] <antmas> pretty sure cyanogenmod allows you to override screenshot action too
151: [01:59:22] <simon_w|air> Seems simpler to just reverse engineer their API
152: [01:59:35] <Colin[pi]> just take a photo of your phone with another phone
153: [02:00:09] * Stomach has joined #silverstripe
154: [02:02:11] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol true
155: [02:02:44] <antmas> are snapchat photos the ones you see with the small caption across the bottom half?
156: [02:02:58] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: No.
157: [02:02:59] <Ryan-Toast> ?
158: [02:03:11] <Ryan-Toast> the captions can be placed anywhere
159: [02:03:38] <antmas> ah
160: [02:04:07] <spronk2> fuck people are stupid if they think their snapchat titties will disappear
161: [02:04:12] * antmas googles snapchat photo layout
162: [02:04:16] <antmas> lol nsfw
163: [02:04:38] <spronk2> haha
164: [02:04:39] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: stupid people would be like 90% of snapchat's userbase
165: [02:04:49] <Ryan-Toast> spronk2: People can just go to my /r/gonewild posts for that
166: [02:05:01] <spronk2> lul
167: [02:09:26] * UncleCheese has joined #silverstripe
168: [02:13:00] <antmas> simon_w|air: stop playing lego and get back to work!
169: [02:13:16] <simon_w|air> antmas, maybe LEGO is my work!
170: [02:13:30] <simon_w|air> Also, Ephpie's the one playing. Not me :p
171: [02:19:32] * wgodfrey has joined #silverstripe
172: [02:20:38] <simon_w|air> Ooh, I could install my Steam library at work...
173: [02:21:15] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: I already have ;P
174: [02:21:29] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], I don't work from home :p
175: [02:21:32] <Colin[pi]> ;P
176: [02:21:47] <simon_w|air> Only going at 5 MB/s?
177: [02:21:49] <simon_w|air> So slooooow
178: [02:21:53] <wgodfrey> Anyone know if a shortcode handler can be a non-static method?
179: [02:22:16] <simon_w|air> wgodfrey, needs to be a valid callback at the time of registering it,
180: [02:22:39] <simon_w|air> So, it can
181: [02:22:46] <zippy> Colin[pi]: ;-)
182: [02:22:48] <simon_w|air> But the object needs to be instantiated and registering time
183: [02:23:01] <wgodfrey> simon_w|air: Makes sense, thanks
184: [02:25:54] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
185: [02:26:16] <irogue_> hey look its that wgodfrey guy
186: [02:26:27] <wgodfrey> what? where?
187: [02:26:31] <wgodfrey> that guy is a dick
188: [02:27:02] <adrexia> lols
189: [02:27:25] <wgodfrey> I genuinely don't know who I'm talking to by the way guys
190: [02:27:46] <simon_w|air> We're all bots
191: [02:28:05] <simon_w|air> This is an elaborate Turing test
192: [02:28:18] <wgodfrey> I was just about to say you pass
193: [02:28:19] <irogue_> wgodfrey: I'm in your (extended) team man!
194: [02:28:48] <wgodfrey> But is the test really whether *I* am a computer?
195: [02:28:52] <simon_w|air> irogue_ is the deploy bot
196: [02:28:53] <adrexia> <simon_w|air> This is an elaborate Turing test
197: [02:28:55] <adrexia> +1
198: [02:29:19] <wgodfrey> irogue_ .. do you have a large clear plastic ball on your desk?
199: [02:29:35] <adrexia> irogue_ is based in Auckland
200: [02:29:40] <irogue_> wgodfrey: negative
201: [02:29:42] <wgodfrey> Ah, interesting
202: [02:29:44] <simon_w|air> Ooh, irogue_ upgraded to a mac
203: [02:30:01] <wgodfrey> was he just rogue_ before that?
204: [02:30:14] <antmas> is this real life?
205: [02:30:19] <irogue_> simon_w|air: i've had a mac since I started here!
206: [02:30:26] <spronk2> is this just fantasy?
207: [02:30:31] <spronk2> caught in a landslide
208: [02:30:40] <adrexia> no escape from reality
209: [02:30:41] <simon_w|air> irogue_, did you have to be taught how to click?
210: [02:30:48] <spronk2> o/ adrexia
211: [02:30:52] <DanaeNZ> *dreams wistfully of sweet gaming pc at home*
212: [02:30:53] <adrexia> :D
213: [02:30:54] <irogue_> simon_w|air: nope!
214: [02:31:11] <simon_w|air> irogue_, already a better employee than ss23!
215: [02:31:13] <antmas> DanaeNZ: you should get a sweet gaming pc for home
216: [02:31:17] <adrexia> simon_w|air, lols I remember than Stephen did that time he borrowsed your mac
217: [02:31:19] <irogue_> DanaeNZ: I have one of those
218: [02:31:20] <adrexia> :D
219: [02:31:27] <adrexia> <simon_w|air> irogue_, already a better employee than ss23!
220: [02:31:27] <simon_w|air> adrexia, was hilarious :D
221: [02:31:32] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: antmas: I already have one
222: [02:31:36] <adrexia> I heard he didn't show up to work today
223: [02:31:36] <DanaeNZ> I’m just thinking of it
224: [02:31:40] <adrexia> so, probably ;)
225: [02:31:42] <DanaeNZ> instead of this mac
226: [02:31:43] <antmas> oh lol
227: [02:31:47] <antmas> DanaeNZ: a+ then
228: [02:32:02] <DanaeNZ> oh well, this has an SSD, unlike my old work pc
229: [02:32:06] <adrexia> simon_w|air, I liked how it shut him out after a period of time
230: [02:32:09] <irogue_> adrexia: and I was using will's spare. I knew how to click but sweetfuckall else
231: [02:32:11] <spronk2> ssddddddd
232: [02:32:22] <adrexia> irogue_, yeah that's right
233: [02:32:23] <antmas> my sweet gaming pc has this top mounted fan that wobbles
234: [02:32:27] <adrexia> that was a good hack day
235: [02:32:34] <irogue_> it was
236: [02:32:39] <irogue_> thats when I did my one core commit
237: [02:32:44] <adrexia> :D
238: [02:32:53] <irogue_> (with adrexia and will's help cos it was frontend and I'd never sass'd before)
239: [02:32:53] <adrexia> I think I fixed the log out button in the cms
240: [02:33:25] <irogue_> yeah I fixed the alignment of some buttons in the CMS that were like 3px height difference
241: [02:33:29] <simon_w|air> Was that the one I spent trying to figure out why $Blah($Up.ID) didn't work>
242: [02:33:33] <irogue_> I think it was the Save button and the Save+Publish button
243: [02:33:57] <adrexia> simon_w|air, sorry, I don't remmeber ;)
244: [02:34:10] <simon_w|air> adrexia, I do remember there was pizza though ;)
245: [02:34:17] <adrexia> and beer
246: [02:34:40] <antmas> WAIT
247: [02:34:48] <irogue_> I remember Sam and someone I didn't know yet (Stig maybe?) having an intense discussion about some core framework stuff and I didn't understand it in the slightest
248: [02:34:49] <antmas> irogue_: did Janine leave?
249: [02:35:11] <irogue_> antmas: KEEP UP MAN
250: [02:35:15] <DanaeNZ> haha
251: [02:35:25] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: ages ago
252: [02:35:35] <DanaeNZ> I thought she only just left but turns out it’s just that the whole first half the year is a blur
253: [02:35:38] <antmas> lol goes to show how often I visit linkedn
254: [02:35:39] <simon_w|air> antmas, Brooke left too!
255: [02:35:50] <irogue_> yeah she left in Feb
256: [02:35:56] <irogue_> (janine)
257: [02:36:44] <DanaeNZ> I just realised I can take part in hackdays now cos I have a laptop
258: [02:36:59] <Colin[pi]> DanaeNZ: you go girl
259: [02:37:11] <adrexia> <simon_w|air> antmas, Brooke left too!
260: [02:37:11] <simon_w|air> DanaeNZ, or, copy adrexia and halkyon and just bring in an iMac
261: [02:37:11] <adrexia> lols
262: [02:37:13] <adrexia> me too
263: [02:37:18] <irogue_> DanaeNZ: I tried to run one up here but noone came
264: [02:37:29] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: hahah that sounds sad
265: [02:37:35] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: yet I laughed
266: [02:37:36] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: sorry
267: [02:37:44] <irogue_> I have no idea who Brooke is/was
268: [02:37:45] <adrexia> simon_w|air, that was easier because we worked there at the time
269: [02:37:51] <adrexia> a bit harder if you don't
270: [02:37:55] <antmas> wait, who's Brooke?
271: [02:37:59] <antmas> SO MANY NAMES
272: [02:38:05] <adrexia> antmas ex marketting person
273: [02:38:11] <irogue_> mustve been before my time
274: [02:38:16] <DanaeNZ> I borrowed a imactop once but spent the whole time trying to set it up and getting frustrated
275: [02:38:36] <simon_w|air> She showed up at the hackfest that was just me, Pyro and Sam
276: [02:38:40] <irogue_> Nicole is cool though
277: [02:38:51] <DanaeNZ> I saw Nicole briefly
278: [02:38:55] <DanaeNZ> she ran away
279: [02:38:58] <antmas> I did like the one time I went to auckland office and our account manager was out smoking a cigar on the deck :D
280: [02:39:03] <irogue_> yeah she had to set up the AWS stand
281: [02:39:06] <antmas> then left like a month later :O
282: [02:39:08] * babak quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
283: [02:39:28] <irogue_> antmas: he's doing real estate now and probably raking in the $$$
284: [02:39:39] <adrexia> https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookepenny
285: [02:39:43] <antmas> irogue_: it was Jerry right?
286: [02:39:49] <irogue_> ya
287: [02:39:54] <DanaeNZ> “yoga teacher"
288: [02:40:07] <antmas> everyone is a yoga teacher these days
289: [02:40:28] <irogue_> i'm not!
290: [02:40:36] <antmas> irogue_: YES YOU ARE
291: [02:40:38] <adrexia> me either
292: [02:40:43] <antmas> stop lying
293: [02:40:50] * antmas teaches cold yoga
294: [02:40:56] <adrexia> haha
295: [02:41:02] * adrexia teaches yogi
296: [02:41:08] * irogue_ teaches yoghurt
297: [02:41:11] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
298: [02:41:12] <DanaeNZ> hahahah
299: [02:41:23] <DanaeNZ> hey someone tell me how to speak in the third person
300: [02:41:30] <DanaeNZ> i mean, please
301: [02:41:33] <adrexia> / me
302: [02:41:37] <adrexia> with no spaces
303: [02:41:37] <DanaeNZ> ohhh the space
304: [02:41:41] <DanaeNZ> XD
305: [02:41:45] <DanaeNZ> i tried that
306: [02:41:51] <zippy> /my foo
307: [02:41:51] <adrexia> /me ?
308: [02:41:53] <zippy> ops
309: [02:41:53] <zippy> haha
310: [02:41:56] * DanaeNZ needs a coffee
311: [02:42:01] <adrexia> boom
312: [02:42:07] <zippy> irc guru now
313: [02:42:10] * Ryan-Toast tells Danae how to do it.
314: [02:42:12] <DanaeNZ> it didn’t work before D:
315: [02:42:19] <irogue_> DanaeNZ: the machine is on :P
316: [02:42:24] * DanaeNZ thanks Ryan-Toast
317: [02:42:43] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: WHO ARE YOU
318: [02:42:44] * simon_w|air just grabbed a nice, cold V
319: [02:42:49] <antmas> just makes sure when you do /msg you don't do it wrong and send awkward questions to colin by mistake
320: [02:42:57] <antmas> >.>
321: [02:43:09] <DanaeNZ> ha I’ll just use the client for that tbh
322: [02:43:22] <adrexia> <antmas> just makes sure when you do /msg you don't do it wrong and send awkward questions to colin by mistake
323: [02:43:26] <adrexia> happened to you, huh?
324: [02:43:27] <adrexia> :D
325: [02:43:32] <antmas> nevaaarrrrr
326: [02:43:47] <Ryan-Toast> I just click people’s names in the sidebar
327: [02:44:05] <Colin[pi]> antmas don't worry I wont tell anyone about your rash
328: [02:44:05] <irogue_> I just don't private message
329: [02:44:16] <antmas> lol
330: [02:44:32] <adrexia> irogue_, that's a lie
331: [02:44:39] <irogue_> oh yeah
332: [02:44:44] <irogue_> youre like the one person I have, adrexia :P
333: [02:44:48] <adrexia> hahah
334: [02:44:49] <adrexia> :D
335: [02:44:51] <zippy> O.o
336: [02:44:57] <irogue_> cos youre not in Slack :P
337: [02:44:58] <zippy> is that the a/s/l onjoin?
338: [02:45:08] <adrexia> yeah. I sort of wish I was though
339: [02:45:18] <adrexia> ss23 says there's a gossip channel
340: [02:45:27] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: might purchase the iconmoon premium...
341: [02:45:29] <antmas> irogue_: wait did I not pm you when I was lost in auckland?
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343: [02:45:39] <antmas> maybe that was public twitter
344: [02:46:12] <irogue_> yeah that was twatter
345: [02:46:19] <irogue_> adrexia: theres also a UX channel!
346: [02:46:22] <simon_w|air> From the normal distance I am from this screen, that looked like "pubic twitter"
347: [02:46:33] <antmas> simon_w|air: :D
348: [02:46:41] <antmas> pubic twatter
349: [02:46:56] <Ryan-Toast> How do you enable the stepped checkout in ss-shop?
350: [02:47:02] * antmas tries real hard not to giggle
351: [02:47:59] <irogue_> Ryan-Toast: http://docs.ss-shop.org/Customisation/Recipes/Multi_Step_Checkout
352: [02:48:10] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: churbo
353: [02:48:13] <adrexia> irogue_, yeah, I used to be in the one we had on flowdock
354: [02:48:46] <irogue_> apparently there are currently 61 channels in our slack :o
355: [02:49:04] * antmas looks up slack
356: [02:49:18] <antmas> oh that thing
357: [02:49:22] <adrexia> we have irc channels for pretty much everythign here
358: [02:49:45] <DanaeNZ> we kinda used Slack at my old place
359: [02:49:51] <irogue_> slack is basically IRC just with a pretty frontend. you can connect to it via IRC too tho
360: [02:50:05] <antmas> lol really?
361: [02:50:06] <DanaeNZ> useful for sending files
362: [02:50:09] <adrexia> I want to connect to irc through slack
363: [02:50:12] <adrexia> can i do that?
364: [02:50:16] <adrexia> ;)
365: [02:50:19] <irogue_> I wish
366: [02:50:24] <antmas> everyone is using slack right now
367: [02:50:25] <adrexia> me too
368: [02:50:37] <adrexia> antmas its the new hip thign to do
369: [02:50:40] <adrexia> ...and its free
370: [02:50:45] <antmas> mm
371: [02:50:49] <adrexia> solong as you don't need to retain your data
372: [02:50:54] <adrexia> *so long
373: [02:51:19] <zippy> ARGH!
374: [02:51:26] <irogue_> the biggest upside of it over slack (besides price) is that you can have people in only a specific channel
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376: [02:51:35] <irogue_> so we can invite partners, clients, contractors etc
377: [02:51:35] <mediabeast> Hello!
378: [02:51:52] <irogue_> and they can't jump into any ol channel
379: [02:52:01] <zippy> mediabeast: hi
380: [02:52:05] <adrexia> yiou mean advantage over flowdock?
381: [02:52:11] <irogue_> yeah that
382: [02:52:12] <irogue_> shhhh
383: [02:52:12] <adrexia> yeah, that's sort of nice
384: [02:52:17] <mediabeast> Can someone help me with this
385: [02:52:18] <mediabeast> http://docs.silverstripe.org/en/developer_guides/controllers/requestfilters/
386: [02:52:30] <adrexia> plus it seems to have goitten more by-in form the old school skype users
387: [02:52:32] <mediabeast> not quite sure how it's supposed to be implemented...
388: [02:52:34] <adrexia> *from
389: [02:53:28] <irogue_> adrexia: yeah it has better one-on-one and private group (not channel, just multi-person private chat) capabilities then flowdock, which makes it a better drop-in for Skype
390: [02:53:32] <mediabeast> do you add something to your model?
391: [02:54:00] <antmas> wow that is a nice interface I must say
392: [02:54:01] <irogue_> mediabeast: I have literally never touched requestfilters. What're you trying to achieve?
393: [02:54:07] <adrexia> irogue_, I liked flowdock's one on one. but group non channel chats are a pretty good idea
394: [02:54:14] <mediabeast> umm filter out all deleted items
395: [02:54:21] <mediabeast> without using filter() on every query
396: [02:54:26] <antmas> we use Skype for Business here
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398: [02:54:35] <adrexia> we use... irc
399: [02:54:45] <irogue_> antmas: ew please don't call it that
400: [02:54:49] <irogue_> it will forever be Lync
401: [02:54:56] <irogue_> cos "Skype for Business" is a shitty shitty name
402: [02:54:57] <antmas> lol
403: [02:55:07] <simon_w|air> We use Hangouts
404: [02:55:12] <antmas> yeah it is dumb
405: [02:55:22] <adrexia> wow, it's like you all work in the future :P
406: [02:55:36] <simon_w|air> I'd prefer something a lot nicer, like IRC
407: [02:55:42] <antmas> 'Lync' is actually pretty good
408: [02:55:43] <adrexia> lols
409: [02:58:16] <antmas> CAL licencing for link is pretty expensive
410: [02:58:20] <antmas> like everything ms
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412: [03:02:57] <zippy> irogue_: you can use an augment sql thingie I think
413: [03:03:37] <zippy> should be able to use a DataExtension on the DataObject, then public function augmentDataQueryCreation(SQLQuery $query) { $query-> exclude blah blah }
414: [03:03:38] <zippy> maybe
415: [03:04:00] <irogue_> mediabeast ^
416: [03:04:19] <wgodfrey> adois compadres
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418: [03:05:05] * spronk2 quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
419: [03:06:11] <irogue_> heh, didn't realise these photos were actually public: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150510948329946.1073741827.44641219945&type=3
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421: [03:06:32] <DanaeNZ> irogue_: haha yeh i saw those
422: [03:06:41] <irogue_> can't help noticing the photos of jager shots, beer pong etc are missing
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424: [03:08:26] <antmas> ss23's hair is so majestic
425: [03:08:58] <DanaeNZ> you should tag it with everyone’s irc usernames
426: [03:09:51] <antmas> DanaeNZ: for extra stalking xp?
427: [03:09:59] <DanaeNZ> yes
428: [03:10:01] <DanaeNZ> i mean, no
429: [03:11:50] <antmas> irogue_: tag Frank with 'Tanger' pls
430: [03:11:57] <antmas> :D
431: [03:12:19] <adrexia> so many people there I don't even recognise
432: [03:12:24] <irogue_> I think you mean tankr, antmas
433: [03:12:50] <antmas> irogue_: thatsthejoke.jpg
434: [03:12:51] <irogue_> adrexia: slack people who don't do friday drinks, you mean?
435: [03:12:56] <adrexia> yep ;)
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437: [03:13:02] <adrexia> slack _new_ people
438: [03:13:20] <DanaeNZ> are we talking about Slack or lazy people now?
439: [03:13:25] * spronk2 has joined #silverstripe
440: [03:13:36] <irogue_> lazy people
441: [03:13:42] <mediabeast> thanks for that, will give it a jam
442: [03:13:53] <irogue_> who don't drink at the office on friday nights and then end up at karaoke
443: [03:14:03] <DanaeNZ> lazy bastards
444: [03:14:16] <adrexia> irogue_, lols
445: [03:14:18] <adrexia> that'
446: [03:14:23] <irogue_> speaking of, I need to go to wellington again sometime soon
447: [03:14:27] <adrexia> That's only happenedd a handful of tiems
448: [03:14:30] <irogue_> maybe for the june hackfest
449: [03:14:34] <adrexia> irogue_, yes
450: [03:14:38] <adrexia> :D
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452: [03:16:32] <Tanger> antmas: lol
453: [03:16:42] <Tanger> Fuck this, I'm getting a name change
454: [03:16:51] <Tanger> To Frank
455: [03:17:18] <spronk2> you know
456: [03:17:23] <spronk2> those subway toasties for $2.50 aren't bad
457: [03:17:30] <irogue_> Tanger: nice blog post you wrote yesterday
458: [03:17:55] * mediabeast quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
459: [03:18:02] <novaweb> :D http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/68706180/our-bros-overseas-reckon-our-flag-designs-are-taking-the-piss
460: [03:18:14] <antmas> Tanger: :D
461: [03:18:23] <antmas> blog post?
462: [03:18:33] <irogue_> http://www.silverstripe.org/blog/aws-summit-2015-5-key-learnings/
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464: [03:18:55] <antmas> novaweb: I do have a soft spot for the poorly dawn bike
465: [03:18:55] <Tanger> Hahaha
466: [03:19:13] <antmas> irogue_: LOL
467: [03:19:34] <antmas> they should just make our flag dickbutt
468: [03:19:38] <antmas> be done with it
469: [03:20:42] <DanaeNZ> anyone played kerbal space program?
470: [03:20:47] <antmas> although lazer kiwi is pretty sweet
471: [03:20:49] <Ryan-Toast> DanaeNZ: Yup
472: [03:20:49] <DanaeNZ> similar story, you get to choose a flag
473: [03:20:57] <DanaeNZ> i drew an astronaut dickbutt
474: [03:20:57] <antmas> DanaeNZ: that game is amazing
475: [03:21:03] <DanaeNZ> that was my flag
476: [03:21:22] <antmas> DanaeNZ: it only took me 2 weeks to get to the Mun :D
477: [03:21:25] * Cheddam_ has joined #silverstripe
478: [03:21:26] <DanaeNZ> haha
479: [03:21:38] <DanaeNZ> I remember trying to dock a spacestation
480: [03:21:44] <DanaeNZ> legit the first time it took 2 hrs
481: [03:21:52] <antmas> mm
482: [03:22:25] <irogue_> adrexia: i RSVPd for hackfest, now I just have to book flights and accomm and stuff :P
483: [03:22:32] <zippy> This image is the product of Photoshop.
484: [03:22:33] <zippy> lol
485: [03:23:43] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: So annoying. I just booked all my accom, flights etc for my OE
486: [03:23:57] <Ryan-Toast> Have to go to an immigration office tomorrow for my VISA
487: [03:24:10] * Cheddam quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
488: [03:24:23] <adrexia> irogue_, +1
489: [03:24:30] <irogue_> i'm used to having Eva organise all that for me these days :P
490: [03:24:50] <adrexia> though
491: [03:24:58] * zippy quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)
492: [03:25:01] <adrexia> one of the benefits of being in the Auckland office I guess
493: [03:25:13] <adrexia> you get to travel for work more :D
494: [03:25:17] <irogue_> yep lol
495: [03:26:31] <irogue_> maybe I should just sleep on Cheddam_'s floor, save some $$
496: [03:26:48] <antmas> can you get 10 year passports yet? or is that a ways off?
497: [03:27:27] <adrexia> irogue_, surely he has a couch?
498: [03:27:44] <irogue_> negative
499: [03:28:21] <adrexia> O_o
500: [03:28:53] <antmas> who doesn't have a couch?
501: [03:29:12] <adrexia> Cheddam_
502: [03:29:14] <adrexia> :P
503: [03:29:16] <antmas> lol
504: [03:29:33] <Cheddam_> oh haaaaaaaaay y'all
505: [03:29:43] <irogue_> WE TALKIN BOUT YOU
506: [03:30:01] <antmas> "You dismissed the Inbox link. Don't show this again"
507: [03:30:06] <antmas> yes pls
508: [03:30:08] <Cheddam_> irogue_ my carpet looks gross but I have a spare blanket and pillows and you're more than welcome to it
509: [03:30:36] <Cheddam_> oh you have a mattress right
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511: [03:30:52] <irogue_> well yeah but I'll prob fly down
512: [03:31:09] <simon_w|air> Mattress surfing on a plane sounds like fun
513: [03:31:10] <irogue_> flying is cheaper than driving if only one person
514: [03:31:31] <Cheddam_> true, true. floor it is ;)
515: [03:31:55] <irogue_> that or I grab a bed at Pat's :P
516: [03:32:27] <Cheddam_> could do that, he's a cool. your call ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
517: [03:32:36] <mahfuz> Hey guys is it correct to write in template - <% if not $CurrentMember %>.... <% end_if %>
518: [03:32:44] <simon_w|air> Yes
519: [03:33:13] <mahfuz> thanks simon_w|air
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523: [03:45:25] <MichalKleiner> mahfuz: depending on what you wanna do :-D but if it's to do stuff for not-logged-in users then yes
524: [03:45:42] <irogue_> adrexia: aaaand I have the ok from my PM :)
525: [03:45:48] <adrexia> sweet!
526: [03:45:50] <adrexia> :D
527: [03:50:06] <WandL> Hey irogue_: I noticed in a IRC log you did a SSO with Freshdesk was that with silverstripe Members?
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530: [03:51:31] <ss23> You've been pronouncing it wrong this entire time - http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/american-english/parmesan-cheese
531: [03:52:01] <irogue_> WandL: kindof, it just supplied the member's name and email address as per freshdesk's SSO guide
532: [03:52:07] <adrexia> ss23 how's your head today?
533: [03:52:29] <irogue_> nothing really SS specific about it https://support.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/31166-single-sign-on-remote-authentication-in-freshdesk
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535: [03:53:12] <simon_w|air> ss23, "american-english" kinda makes it wrong :p
536: [03:54:22] <ss23> adrexia: bad
537: [03:54:41] * adrexia nods
538: [03:54:54] * adrexia isn't feeling the best either
539: [03:55:09] <ss23> :(
540: [03:55:14] * adrexia shrugs
541: [03:55:17] <spronk2> ... what did you do?
542: [03:55:19] <adrexia> I'm jsut really really tired
543: [03:55:21] <ss23> spronk2: drink
544: [03:55:24] <spronk2> lul.
545: [03:55:26] <ss23> on a tuesday
546: [03:55:27] <ss23> till 1am
547: [03:55:30] <adrexia> until... sometime after 1:30am
548: [03:55:32] <adrexia> :P
549: [03:55:33] <ss23> it was a bad decision and I regret it
550: [03:55:34] <spronk2> lawl.
551: [03:55:37] <adrexia> lols
552: [03:55:46] <adrexia> it wasn't really a decision
553: [03:55:52] <adrexia> it just sort of went that long
554: [03:56:17] <ss23> I remember saying it was my last drink like 3 times
555: [03:56:18] <ss23> :(
556: [03:56:19] <adrexia> usually philosophy tuesday wraps up at ~10-11ish
557: [03:56:28] <adrexia> I rememebr you sayign that too
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560: [04:00:57] <antmas> love these comments http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/68708050/colonel-sanders-resurrected-as-kfc-tries-to-revamp-image
561: [04:01:08] <antmas> 'i love KFC popcorn and potato and gravy'
562: [04:01:10] <antmas> XD
563: [04:02:53] <Colin[pi]> "Eating KFC is like a one night stand when you are drunk - seems a good idea at the time but you end up regretting it later "
564: [04:03:03] <Colin[pi]> ^ lol exactly my feel when I have KFC
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566: [04:03:27] <antmas> I'd put it more in line with fish and chips
567: [04:03:36] <antmas> ALWAYS have regrets after F&Cs
568: [04:04:19] <Michaelhabib_> hi, Im looking at SS ECommerce Module, which one is more feature rich out of the box? I saw SwipeStripe but is it free now ?
569: [04:05:27] <Colin[pi]> Michaelhabib_: SwipeStripe is open source now, yep
570: [04:05:43] <antmas> woah, is it?
571: [04:05:52] * antmas peers out from under rock
572: [04:06:01] <Michaelhabib_> Colin[pi]: cool ty, and do you have exp using it ?
573: [04:06:37] <WandL> Okay thanks irogue_: need to do that will give it a crack!
574: [04:06:43] <Ryan-Toast> How would you add a class to a form using a extend() emethod Extension?
575: [04:06:53] <Colin[pi]> Michaelhabib_: not me personally but in terms of SS ecommerce modules I've heard good things
576: [04:07:27] <Michaelhabib_> want to get some feed back from SS+ECommerce users around here if possible, there are few modules and want to find out "top rated ecommerce module for SS3"
577: [04:07:47] <Ryan-Toast> ss-shop is better than swipestripe imo
578: [04:08:06] <irogue_> yeah I think ss-shop is more feature-complete these days
579: [04:08:07] <Ryan-Toast> You will have to fuck around with the templates a bit though
580: [04:08:20] <irogue_> which was helped by the billion pull requests SS Ltd did while using it for skinny.co.nz :P
581: [04:08:25] <Colin[pi]> yeah I made an ss-shop site and yeah I did do a lot of template fuckery
582: [04:08:41] <DanaeNZ> SwipeStripe is more like, the whole ecommerce shebang
583: [04:08:51] <DanaeNZ> you may not need all the modules it includes
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585: [04:09:05] <antmas> who maintains ss-shop?
586: [04:09:13] <irogue_> antmas: jedateach
587: [04:09:30] <antmas> Tanger does swipestripe I'm pretty sure
588: [04:09:37] <irogue_> swipestripe is easier to just drop in and go, and has most core stuff out-of-the-box. ss-shop does virtually nothing on its own but has submodules for practically everything you might want to do
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591: [04:10:12] <irogue_> but there is a lot of things ss-shop has submodules for that swipestripe just can't do at all
592: [04:10:28] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: no offence to anyone I will never use swipestripe again! Has some good concepts there tho...
593: [04:10:39] <Michaelhabib_> irogue_: thanks, I guess I will have to test both and see which one works better for my projects :)
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595: [04:10:49] <Ryan-Toast> WandL: I like ss-shop
596: [04:10:54] <Ryan-Toast> And hate e-commerce.
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598: [04:11:02] <Tanger> Swipestripe is pretty good at getting something working out of the box
599: [04:11:09] <antmas> Tanger: +1
600: [04:11:14] <Tanger> Not great for DPS payments though
601: [04:11:44] <Ryan-Toast> Tanger: It still uses silverstripe-payment I believe
602: [04:11:46] <Tanger> Or anything complicated like recurring payments
603: [04:11:50] <Tanger> Yeah
604: [04:11:51] <Ryan-Toast> while ss-shop uses omnipay
605: [04:11:54] <irogue_> yeah, ss-payment is pretty long in the tooth now
606: [04:11:56] <Tanger> Spot on
607: [04:11:58] <irogue_> omnipay ftw
608: [04:12:01] <Ryan-Toast> Reoccuring payments *shudder*
609: [04:12:07] <Colin[pi]> mm omnipay is good
610: [04:12:19] <DanaeNZ> had a close call with recurring payments, nearly had to implement it
611: [04:12:24] <irogue_> haha
612: [04:12:29] <DanaeNZ> got like halfway there developing it
613: [04:12:30] <Tanger> Haha, same DanaeNZ
614: [04:12:30] <antmas> :P
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617: [04:12:54] <DanaeNZ> then client was like, “nah i don’t really need that feature"
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619: [04:12:57] <zippy> antmas: brrrrrrrr!!
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621: [04:13:01] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: same, I just had to override or use extensions to wrestle swipetripe to work the way we wanted... I guess was just a bad choice for what we needed
622: [04:13:02] <antmas> I avoid all of it and ride the shopify hype train
623: [04:13:11] <irogue_> shopify is great
624: [04:13:24] <Ryan-Toast> WandL: I try to avoid making e-commerce solutions as much as possible.
625: [04:13:25] <DanaeNZ> i give shopify to my dad instead of building a site for him
626: [04:13:37] <spronk2> yerp
627: [04:13:39] <spronk2> shopify all the things
628: [04:13:43] <antmas> mm
629: [04:13:57] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: I hate it too would rather outsource that lol
630: [04:13:58] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: yeah they all start well and eventually end up as epic pains in the arse
631: [04:14:01] <antmas> templating is good fun in shopoify
632: [04:14:18] <spronk2> shopify doesnt really have nice support for subscriptions though
633: [04:14:23] <spronk2> but there are a couple of recurring plugin things
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635: [04:14:47] <antmas> https://github.com/luciddesign/bootstrapify
636: [04:15:09] <DanaeNZ> ooooh,
637: [04:15:48] <Ryan-Toast> God I hate bootstrap navigations
638: [04:16:36] <adrexia> Ryan-Toast, I hate any nav that doesn't let me click -> go soemehere
639: [04:16:50] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: agreed
640: [04:16:51] <Michaelhabib_> ok guys, you can pass all the e-commerce projects to me :)
641: [04:17:02] <WandL> The time of monolithic CSS/javascript frameworks is ending IMO
642: [04:17:04] <DanaeNZ> Michaelhabib_: we’ll hold you to that lol
643: [04:17:17] <adrexia> WandL, I think it's just starting
644: [04:17:21] <adrexia> at least for js
645: [04:17:27] <Michaelhabib_> Been using Woocommerce (yeh I knnow what you thinking) and Magento CE
646: [04:17:35] <DanaeNZ> Mageeennntoooooooo
647: [04:17:38] <ss-helper> Re: SilverStripe 3.2 Beta1 - Yes this is actually happening - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8Y5xNSAEUfA/ay1HX93iai4J
648: [04:17:40] <antmas> omg Magento CE
649: [04:17:53] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: you hate Magento ?
650: [04:18:00] <WandL> adrexia: people are going vanilla lol
651: [04:18:04] <antmas> Michaelhabib_: is that a question?
652: [04:18:12] <DanaeNZ> isn’t Magento like 50mb out of the box?
653: [04:18:22] <adrexia> only if they have bucket loads of time
654: [04:18:57] <antmas> never heard of woocommerce
655: [04:19:03] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: lolz .. well this is why im looking at SS now,
656: [04:19:05] <adrexia> though, certainly js is a whole lot less horrible these days
657: [04:19:11] <adrexia> so vanilla is an option
658: [04:19:12] <Michaelhabib_> woocommerce, a WP plugin
659: [04:19:18] <antmas> ah right
660: [04:19:29] <Colin[pi]> ask UncleCheese what he thinks of Magento :D
661: [04:19:30] <DanaeNZ> 3.2 beta? :D yas
662: [04:19:37] <DanaeNZ> !seen UncleCheese
663: [04:19:38] <ss-helper> DanaeNZ: They're in the channel now....
664: [04:19:39] <UncleCheese> fuck magento
665: [04:19:42] <adrexia> but there are a lot of projects where your choice is to use a framework or build a framework
666: [04:19:42] <DanaeNZ> lol
667: [04:19:43] <antmas> I have found most web dev things that start with a 'w' means you're probably going to have a bad time
668: [04:19:43] <Colin[pi]> LOL
669: [04:19:47] <Michaelhabib_> hah lolz.
670: [04:20:08] <spronk2> man
671: [04:20:10] <Michaelhabib_> so we have ss-hop & some say shopify , what else do you guys recomend ?
672: [04:20:10] <spronk2> ecommerce on wordpress
673: [04:20:13] <spronk2> yo'd have to be suicidal, right?
674: [04:20:19] <WandL> adrexia: true, I think a lot of it depends on your workflows
675: [04:20:22] <spronk2> bigcommerce is good too
676: [04:20:28] <UncleCheese> i'm sure there are use cases for magento
677: [04:20:29] <adrexia> yep. and the project
678: [04:20:33] <UncleCheese> because it is powerful
679: [04:20:38] <UncleCheese> it's just a developer's worst nightmare
680: [04:20:50] <adrexia> I guess it's like using php or php with a framework
681: [04:20:53] <antmas> UncleCheese: mm my internship was Magento based and SS based
682: [04:20:54] <WandL> magento does my head in
683: [04:21:00] <antmas> so bipolar
684: [04:21:01] <UncleCheese> if you really only do ecomm
685: [04:21:13] <UncleCheese> if you site does anything other than ecomm, you're just suicidal
686: [04:22:06] <antmas> UncleCheese: any word yet?
687: [04:22:12] <UncleCheese> no.. i'm getting nervous
688: [04:22:23] <UncleCheese> although, it says that offers are hand-delivered in a sealed envelope
689: [04:22:34] <spronk2> offers?
690: [04:22:35] <spronk2> oh
691: [04:22:38] <spronk2> put in an offer on a house?
692: [04:22:41] <UncleCheese> after it has been dipped in sacred oils from india, during a lunar eclipse
693: [04:22:54] <antmas> lol
694: [04:22:59] <irogue_> and approved by the chinese government
695: [04:22:59] <Colin[pi]> haha
696: [04:23:38] <Michaelhabib_> spronk2: I've stopped using Wordpress that's why im hunting for a good Ecom software to start using. I didnt realy develop with WP, just got the add-ons and get the project up.
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698: [04:23:44] <WandL> freshdesk is so much better at branding than zendesk and has 3 free agents nice
699: [04:23:49] <antmas> excitement for the week in #silverstripe = UCs house offer and silverstripe.org going offline
700: [04:23:51] <irogue_> yeah freshdesk is nice
701: [04:23:59] <spronk2> yeah
702: [04:24:06] <spronk2> freshdesk is better than zendesk these days IMO
703: [04:24:07] <Ryan-Toast> Can someone tell me how I can group from fields toghether from an extension?
704: [04:24:11] <Ryan-Toast> Form**
705: [04:25:00] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: remove them? then add to a fieldgroup?
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707: [04:25:12] <antmas> Michaelhabib_: if you were only doing ecomm I'd always go shopify
708: [04:25:31] <Ryan-Toast> WandL: Was hoping for something a little easier than re-writing all the fields of the form
709: [04:25:32] <Ryan-Toast> .
710: [04:25:54] <spronk2> yeah, shopify is a great option
711: [04:26:50] <antmas> their hardware/mobile integration is slick as
712: [04:28:39] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: don't replace them all only the ones you want to group
713: [04:29:15] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: spronk2 how do you sell shopify service to the client ?
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715: [04:29:54] <irogue_> bahaha Ron Mark
716: [04:30:05] <Michaelhabib_> I usually use software like WP+WooCommerce or Magento, charge the initial cost + maintanace costs as it comes.
717: [04:31:01] <antmas> Michaelhabib_: I just built a quick demo for free and installed the mobile payment app - showed them that and they were sold instantly
718: [04:32:14] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: but payment wise, do you bill like 2 years + dev costs and invoice them from your business/company ?
719: [04:33:12] <antmas> Michaelhabib_: I just do half of 'site cost' at the start, half when it's signed off and then charge maintenance when it comes
720: [04:33:19] <mahfuz> Hey guys. Can anyone help on custom form templating
721: [04:33:21] <antmas> pretty simplistic, but easily sold
722: [04:35:10] <antmas> depending on the client I usually end up getting about 6 months of maintenance - I usually drop it after that before it turns into 'can you please update this pdf for me?'
723: [04:36:43] <mahfuz> I have elaborated my custom form template here - http://sspaste.com/paste/show/555c0f3468457
724: [04:37:00] <mahfuz> Can anyone have a look please?
725: [04:38:57] <spronk2> Michaelhabib_ my clients i just pass them on to shopify, and charge them management fee if they want me to manage it for them
726: [04:39:16] <spronk2> and charge for the initial template dev etc
727: [04:39:22] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: something like http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/555c0f92c8415 Is how I current do it might be better way...
728: [04:39:32] <spronk2> OK (171 tests, 451 assertions)
729: [04:39:41] <spronk2> woot
730: [04:39:53] <Ryan-Toast> WandL: Cheers, will give that a go.
731: [04:40:00] <antmas> spronk2: mm that's a good way to do it seeing as there isn't really any 'dev' involved in shopify :P
732: [04:40:16] <spronk2> mmlol
733: [04:41:28] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: spronk2 and if I may ask, what would you charge for such setup considering there isn't much dev work ?
734: [04:41:43] <spronk2> depends on how elaborate their template is :)
735: [04:42:01] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Great lesson, man.
736: [04:42:20] <Colin[pi]> ooh is UC's lesson out?
737: [04:42:25] <antmas> well, last one I did was 2k for a relatively template, start to finish
738: [04:42:29] <mahfuz> Thanks Ryan-Toast for sharing. I have to place the form elements in complex layout. My custom template is working fine. I can put individual form elements any where I want. But wanted to know if for some of the fields I want the current layout, how to go about that?
739: [04:43:10] <antmas> Colin[pi]: mmm ajaz
740: [04:43:14] <antmas> ajax*
741: [04:43:14] <WandL> Ryan-Toast: np that was using foundation
742: [04:43:16] <Michaelhabib_> antmas: 2k + the client will pay the monthly shopify fees ?
743: [04:43:38] <antmas> Michaelhabib_: yup
744: [04:44:10] <antmas> again though it can vary wildly on how complex the template/them is
745: [04:44:15] <antmas> theme*
746: [04:45:28] <Michaelhabib_> kk thanks. The good thing about shopify is it has a POS too so it's better to start using this system and use it in most of my projects for online & in-store sales :)
747: [04:45:39] <spronk2> yeah
748: [04:45:46] <spronk2> shopify POS simplifies stuff for a LOT of smaller businesses
749: [04:45:52] <antmas> yeah the POS stuff is awesome
750: [04:46:14] <spronk2> last client i did used shopify + the POS stuff for stalls
751: [04:46:18] <spronk2> worked great
752: [04:46:22] <antmas> last client generates 70% of her sales from mobile app a lone
753: [04:46:27] <antmas> alone*
754: [04:46:40] <DanaeNZ> @mahfuz instead of $Field use $Fieldholder
755: [04:46:42] <Michaelhabib_> so, I guess its time to drop Wordpress+Magento
756: [04:46:54] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: or FieldHolder, I forget
757: [04:46:55] <Michaelhabib_> time to do some tesing :) ty guys
758: [04:47:02] <antmas> it's always from to drop wp/magento :D
759: [04:47:14] <mahfuz> Thanks DanaeNZ. I will give it a try
760: [04:47:14] <Michaelhabib_> and BTW, anyone used SS+Twig Template add-on ?
761: [04:48:14] <ss-helper> Page Controller view permission to Logged in users - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101765
762: [04:48:16] <Michaelhabib_> I will be looking at creating Bootstrap+Twig template for SS (after some more testing that is)
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765: [04:57:40] <mahfuz> DanaeNZ thanks again. it works. But one thing I have validation of required for the field which works if I don't use any template but when using the custom template, it is not working. any idea?
766: [04:58:18] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: what’s the HTML output?
767: [04:58:34] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: by default it just uses HTML5 validation
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769: [04:59:22] <mahfuz> with custom
770: [04:59:24] <mahfuz> <input type="email" name="Email" class="email text nolabel" id="CustomAskQuestionForm_AskQuestionForm_Email" placeholder="Enter your Email Address">
771: [04:59:44] <mahfuz> without custom
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773: [04:59:45] <mahfuz> <input type="email" name="Email" class="email text nolabel" id="Form_TestAskQuestionForm_Email" required="required" aria-required="true" placeholder="Enter your Email Address">
774: [05:00:02] <DanaeNZ> in your custom template, you should be echoing $AttributesHTML
775: [05:00:11] <DanaeNZ> that will spit out all those attributes
776: [05:00:33] <DanaeNZ> so it will end up looking like <input $AttributesHTML> or something
777: [05:00:53] <mahfuz> Can you give an example please?
778: [05:01:21] <DanaeNZ> mahfuz: literally <input $AttributesHTML />
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780: [05:01:41] <mahfuz> I have already <form $AttributesHTML>
781: [05:01:46] <mahfuz> in the beginning
782: [05:01:53] <irogue_> you need it for the input elements too
783: [05:02:37] <mahfuz> I am using $FieldHolder in the template so where should I say it?
784: [05:03:10] <DanaeNZ> hm I thought you were using a custom FormField_holder.ss template
785: [05:03:42] <DanaeNZ> Sicne you aren’t, $FieldHolder should be displaying those for you :\
786: [05:03:43] <DanaeNZ> hmmm
787: [05:04:07] <DanaeNZ> $FieldHolder looks for the contents of the FormField_holder.ss template
788: [05:04:27] <mahfuz> Yeah I was also expecting it to work
789: [05:05:05] <mahfuz> $FieldHolder is doing everything excluding the required part
790: [05:05:50] <DanaeNZ> waaat that’s weird
791: [05:06:52] <mahfuz> Thanks guys any way
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793: [05:09:25] <irogue_> http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/michigan-pastor-who-railed-against-same-sex-marriage-resigns-after-being-caught-seeking-men-on-grindr/
794: [05:09:26] <irogue_> SURPRISE
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796: [05:12:16] <Colin[pi]> lol
797: [05:12:24] <Colin[pi]> why does it not surprise me irogue_
798: [05:14:21] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast cheers!
799: [05:14:38] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Adding pagination to my code as we speak :)
800: [05:14:40] <ss23> http://i.imgur.com/KK7vziz.jpg
801: [05:14:55] <UncleCheese> FAKE
802: [05:15:03] <UncleCheese> that's confectionary sugar
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804: [05:15:11] <ss23> uwt
805: [05:15:17] <ss23> really, UncleCheese?
806: [05:15:19] <ss23> I'm confused now
807: [05:15:21] <UncleCheese> and those aren't workers. they're holidaymakers
808: [05:18:40] * DanaeNZ quit (Quit: DanaeNZ)
809: [05:22:54] <irogue_> http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/worksafe/wittenoom-images
810: [05:22:56] <irogue_> very not-fake
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812: [05:25:54] * novaweb quit (Quit: novaweb)
813: [05:26:07] <Colin[pi]> lol "asbestos shovelling competition"
814: [05:26:30] <Colin[pi]> more like "chronic lung disease competition"
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817: [05:35:56] <WandL> Colin[pi]: do you win if you die first or last?
818: [05:36:23] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
819: [05:36:29] <Colin[pi]> WandL: yes
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826: [06:03:36] <ss-helper> silverstripe-photogallery module automagically generates random Photo Albums?! - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/all-other-modules/show/101766
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833: [06:50:16] <ss23> fuck composer, so slow :(
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842: [07:32:04] <Tanger> Anybody know if there's a way to disable a class in YAML config or in _config.php?
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853: [08:19:12] <ss-helper> New installation but just get logo on admin panel - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101767
854: [08:22:36] <wmk> Tanger, define "disable"
855: [08:23:01] <Tanger> Well, I since solved it. I wanted to disable a number of widgets from the CMS without actually deleting them
856: [08:23:14] <wmk> ok, how did you solve it?
857: [08:23:14] <Tanger> I just ended up manually adding only the widgets I want as function
858: [08:23:16] <Tanger> s
859: [08:23:24] <wmk> ok
860: [08:23:34] <Tanger> #soexciting
861: [08:23:42] <wmk> you could move them to a subdirectory and add a _manifest_exclude file to that dir
862: [08:23:56] <wmk> hmm...
863: [08:24:08] <wmk> kinglozzer, is there some kind like _manifest_excluce config variable in yml?
864: [08:25:55] <Tanger> True, but that means breaking up version controlled modules
865: [08:25:55] <wmk> Tanger, yup. if it's from another module it doesn't work
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867: [08:28:09] <wmk> yo Pysalvik
868: [08:28:19] <wmk> or better: salve Pysalvik
869: [08:29:16] <kinglozzer> wmk: I don't think so
870: [08:29:46] <kinglozzer> The class manifest doesn't even look at yaml, so I doubt it
871: [08:32:20] <ss-helper> Add button link in silverstripe - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30344008/add-button-link-in-silverstripe
872: [08:33:25] <ss-helper> Re: SilverStripe 3.2 Beta1 - Yes this is actually happening - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8Y5xNSAEUfA/Sfkb9QApYmgJ
873: [08:34:16] <ss-helper> Re: New installation but just get logo on admin panel - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101767#post401619
874: [08:35:40] <wmk> kinglozzer, ok ,thanks for info
875: [08:35:44] <Pysalvik> wmk: haha, no.
876: [08:35:53] <Pysalvik> Captcha again, today it was 'slavi'
877: [08:36:32] <Pysalvik> which (especially with my 'k') makes me sound Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian, Serbian, Croatian, Ukranian, Russian, etc.
878: [08:36:37] <Pysalvik> Polish
879: [08:37:38] <Pysalvik> ha, wholeyshit, I didn't realise Macedonians were consdered Slavic
880: [08:37:53] <Pysalvik> I also missed Belarusians from my list.
881: [08:38:01] <Pysalvik> But apparently Bulgarians are also slavic.
882: [08:38:13] <wmk> but cyrillic
883: [08:38:42] <Pysalvik> along with Bozniaks (which I did wonder, but couldn't remember the country name to list) and Montenegrians
884: [08:39:15] <swaiba> Morning all
885: [08:39:28] <wmk> Pysalvik, you should rename to Pywikipediak
886: [08:39:29] <Pysalvik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Slavic_europe.svg
887: [08:39:33] <swaiba> Anyone got an idea how to make a "heterogeneous has_many" ?
888: [08:39:35] <Pysalvik> Dobre rano swaiba
889: [08:40:01] <Pysalvik> wmk: haha, well to be fair I actually did look it up (but I did know the first list I made already)
890: [08:40:05] <wmk> Czesc Pysalvik
891: [08:40:19] <Pysalvik> Czia wmk :>
892: [08:40:32] <Pysalvik> ah shit, that#s Szia
893: [08:40:33] <swaiba> like I want to have obj has_many objb, where objb is like abstract class and has many different actaul dataobject types
894: [08:41:13] <wmk> Szia? what language is that?
895: [08:41:22] <swaiba> I made one ages ago in 2.4 but it was hack on top of hack on top of hack...
896: [08:41:36] <swaiba> would be great if there was s simple soultion with model admin
897: [08:41:54] <wmk> there is a gridfield button to add a class or subclass of that
898: [08:43:11] <wmk> swaiba, https://github.com/silverstripe-australia/silverstripe-gridfieldextensions/blob/master/code/GridFieldAddNewMultiClass.php
899: [08:44:11] <swaiba> wmk oooo that looks great :)
900: [08:44:35] <wmk> it does!
901: [08:47:20] <ss-helper> Silverstripe not working on Plesk Server - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30344481/silverstripe-not-working-on-plesk-server
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905: [08:59:27] <Sj0hn> Hi,
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908: [09:02:31] <Sj0hn> Anyone here ever tried to add the model admin filter to the security/members section?
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910: [09:04:25] <ss-helper> Re: New installation but just get logo on admin panel - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101767#post401620
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915: [09:34:33] <ss-helper> Re: New installation but just get logo on admin panel - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101767#post401621
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920: [09:59:33] <Pysalvik> wmk: Szia is Hungarian. Not Slavic at all, but looks similar (visually) to what you said.
921: [10:00:01] <Pysalvik> Sj0hn: can't do it.
922: [10:00:11] <Pysalvik> members shows a tree, not a modeladmin iirc.
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924: [10:09:58] <elgabbu> money field is kinda bugged ... if one saves the value 100000 ..... next time it renders the value of the field is 100,000 .... so then if you save agan somehow the value gets truncated to 100
925: [10:11:55] <Pysalvik> It doesn't take into account locales other than Kiwi so far as I remember
926: [10:12:15] <Pysalvik> ie, $ and . as the decimal separator are hard coded.
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928: [10:12:47] <Pysalvik> could be wrong though
929: [10:13:16] <kinglozzer> Yeah it's pretty hopeless
930: [10:13:23] <kinglozzer> I use Currency instead of Money though
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932: [10:17:23] <Michaelhabib_> Hi, I have an Image upload field on the Settings section of the website. The image field is for the logo and added by extending SiteConfig. When I want to add file from PC or From Files it doesnt attached the file to the field.
933: [10:18:30] <Michaelhabib_> Note the file get uploaded but when I go Setting -> LogoField and click FromFiles, it does NOT list the available images... could it be permission error ? as the same code worked before when I extended the HomePage!
934: [10:19:44] <ss-helper> Re: Page Controller view permission to Logged in users - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101765#post401623
935: [10:19:45] <ss-helper> Re: New installation but just get logo on admin panel - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101767#post401622
936: [10:21:35] <Pysalvik> Michaelhabib_: you've probably set the field in the wrong place.
937: [10:21:52] <elgabbu> Lines 110 and 114 in MoneyField should use dataValue() instead of Value()
938: [10:21:54] <Pysalvik> it needs to be a has_one relation, it cannot be a db field.
939: [10:22:05] <Pysalvik> elgabbu: PR! :)
940: [10:22:26] <elgabbu> public relations?!
941: [10:22:37] <elgabbu> :P
942: [10:24:50] <Michaelhabib_> Pysalvik: I just double checked, I have it under the has_one array
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948: [10:56:14] <swaiba> hey wmk - if you are still there that gridfield item is awesome! 2 mintues to configure, exactly what I was after
949: [10:56:55] <swaiba> The only issue is that the summary_fields are fixed to the root class
950: [10:59:03] <Pysalvik> Michaelhabib_: ah, might need to name the field more uhh... 'truthfully'
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952: [10:59:23] <Pysalvik> You've probably got UploadField::create('ImageRelationName', 'title', etc
953: [10:59:28] <Pysalvik> try
954: [10:59:36] <Pysalvik> UploadField::create('ImageRelationNameID', 'title', etc
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957: [11:09:36] <wmk> swaiba, hmm, that's just the "add" button, summaryfields are another gridfield component
958: [11:15:46] <swaiba> the add button is fine wmk, it shows the classes
959: [11:15:54] <wmk> yup
960: [11:16:07] <swaiba> the summary rows after they have been added all default to the shared super/parent class
961: [11:16:24] <swaiba> it's fine though as I've casted that and then added the function to the children
962: [11:16:45] <swaiba> TBH I was wondering how it would resolve 3 fields for one object and 6 for another for instance
963: [11:18:02] <wmk> i doubt that
964: [11:18:38] <wmk> maybe there's some kind of subclass filter for the grid, which could show the fields if only one subclass is shown
965: [11:19:02] <swaiba> "i doubt that" - which bit?
966: [11:19:20] <swaiba> as I said it's all good, and I couldn't see how it could handle a different spec for each class
967: [11:20:00] <swaiba> hopefully I'll be able to share this soon - I'm linking sales questions... through discussion... to generation of behat features
968: [11:20:25] <swaiba> and then making it super simple for steps to be added through UI for non-coders
969: [11:28:04] <wmk> looks nice ;)
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972: [11:31:02] <Mike123> Hello everyone :)
973: [11:31:10] <wmk> o/ Mike123
974: [11:31:29] <Mike123> how can i set template for action input ?
975: [11:31:54] <Mike123> let's say i have it like this : $submit = FormAction::create("doPostComment", _t('CommentInterface.POST', 'Post'))
976: [11:33:23] <wmk> for the input button or for the return?
977: [11:34:37] <wmk> Mike123, http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-FormAction.html
978: [11:34:55] <wmk> as it's a subclass of FormField you can also use ->setTemplate() etc...
979: [11:38:25] <Mike123> ok , and how i get the input itself into the template
980: [11:40:56] <Mike123> $Field doesn't work
981: [11:41:59] <Sj0hn> @Pysalvik why nut?
982: [11:42:05] <Mike123> ok i got it , <input $AttributesHTML />
983: [11:42:18] <Sj0hn> @pysalvik nvm
984: [11:42:41] <Sj0hn> @pysalvik Thanks for clarifying
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992: [12:08:48] <Mike123> somehow , if i use include template in a loop, i didnt get everything i need...can i get out of loop somehow
993: [12:08:50] <Mike123> ?
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995: [12:24:45] <wmk> Mike123, afaik not. but you can pass e.g. $TOP to the include file somehow
996: [12:55:36] <Eliseth> Does anyone know if 3.0 works different in how it loads yml files compared to 3.1?
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998: [12:58:22] <Eliseth> (trying to load custom config through yaml files in a 3.0 site just like I always do for my 3.1 sites but keep getting class does not exists errors
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1002: [13:13:26] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4817 (3 - 332350f : Loz Calver): The build has errored.
1003: [13:13:26] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/20c9d6f02e1c...332350ff35a2
1004: [13:13:26] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/63305561
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1006: [13:16:52] <swaiba> Eliseth - all I know is that waht a "dev/build" does and fixes has changed and this might relate
1007: [13:16:57] <Frans_Amsterdam> hi all, how do I redirect all page request that are not found to the homepage? I thought it was done by using .htaccess ErrorDocument 404 /
1008: [13:17:19] <swaiba> bottom line whenever I change stuff I feel like I must dev/build now, but at least it flushes too
1009: [13:17:40] <Eliseth> /dev/build is what's giving the error
1010: [13:18:04] <kinglozzer> travis-ci y u do dis? :(
1011: [13:18:05] <swaiba> Frans_Amsterdam override / use a custom class for ErrorPage (e.g. MyErrorPage) and change the init logic
1012: [13:18:50] <swaiba> Eliseth - maybe remove all the refernces from the YML, dev build, then add them back and dev/build again?
1013: [13:20:37] <ss-helper> Server Error after installing Google site maps module - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/all-other-modules/show/101768
1014: [13:21:07] <Eliseth> Well, this is the YAML: http://pastie.org/private/rvohxpuvc7pt0exmequa
1015: [13:21:58] <Eliseth> And this is the _config.php: http://pastie.org/private/paj1aqp5qwau0z7plwrcq
1016: [13:23:17] <Eliseth> The error I get with dev/build is that "Class Environment does not exist"
1017: [13:25:37] <cloph> Eliseth: did you try flush before?
1018: [13:26:08] <Eliseth> yes, same error
1019: [13:28:45] <swaiba> Eliseth - as I said remove all refernces to it, it being the class name
1020: [13:28:56] <swaiba> then dev/build, then add back and then dev/build again
1021: [13:29:23] <swaiba> common error with modules, their config assumes the class exists, but it only exists after first dev build
1022: [13:32:05] <Eliseth> Still nope
1023: [13:35:42] <wmk> Eliseth, any chance to upgrade to 3.1 ?
1024: [13:36:20] <Eliseth> Rather not, as there's a shitload of custom modules and crap that will most likely break down and I don't have the time to debug all that
1025: [13:36:36] <wmk> oh, that's bad
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1027: [13:36:59] <wmk> though if it was updated properly to 3.0 an upgrade to 3.1 should be easy
1028: [13:38:23] <swaiba> Eliseth - sorry I couldn't help
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1031: [13:38:51] <Eliseth> Well, guess I can always try and see what breaks
1032: [13:39:00] <Eliseth> Thanks for the pointers swaiba
1033: [13:39:47] <wmk> hey, this custom importer seems to work...
1034: [13:39:49] <wmk> cool...
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1036: [13:40:41] <swaiba> wmk the module importexport that has been floated several times?
1037: [13:40:49] <wmk> hm, no...
1038: [13:40:58] <swaiba> kk
1039: [13:41:06] <wmk> custom task that imports from a bunch of serialized arrays
1040: [13:41:15] <wmk> i exported from old cms
1041: [13:41:40] <wmk> biggest issue was to remember how it all worked before silverstripe ;)
1042: [13:41:43] <swaiba> that does sound like a good achievement to have got working
1043: [13:42:22] <wmk> well, instead of copy/paste 200 pages it's worth some hours of work getting it out and in again
1044: [13:43:27] <wmk> swaiba, in old page we formatted <h1> -><h3>
1045: [13:43:48] <swaiba> good for SEO and that
1046: [13:43:51] <wmk> any idea how to check semantics that inside $Content main headings should be <h2> ...?
1047: [13:43:52] <swaiba> lol
1048: [13:44:03] <wmk> well, h1 was $Title
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1050: [13:44:18] <wmk> inside html editor somehow formatting was h3
1051: [13:44:30] <wmk> layout reasons
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1061: [14:32:33] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4817 (3 - 332350f : Loz Calver): The build passed.
1062: [14:32:34] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/20c9d6f02e1c...332350ff35a2
1063: [14:32:34] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/63305561
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1066: [14:37:27] <Eliseth> Ok, since everything I do in this 3.0 installation seems to turn to sh*t and I can't upgrade it to 3.1 I'm hoping to get an answer to the following:
1067: [14:37:59] <Eliseth> The site uses translatable and works fine currently in 2 languages, including a language switch
1068: [14:38:28] <Eliseth> Client recently bought 2nd domain name and now wants to have the 2 languages served on 2 different domains
1069: [14:38:43] <Eliseth> Any easy way to do that in 3.0?
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1071: [14:41:40] <wmk> Eliseth, should be, in _config.php check what domain and switch to language
1072: [14:41:56] <wmk> consider a redirect for old urls
1073: [14:44:32] <Eliseth> Hm
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1077: [15:05:02] <ss-helper> Re: SilverStripe 3.2 Beta1 - Yes this is actually happening - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8Y5xNSAEUfA/S0Gj60VVMUUJ
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1080: [15:17:29] <ss-helper> Silverstripe: Trying to implement Contact Form function but getting white screen of death - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30353725/silverstripe-trying-to-implement-contact-form-function-but-getting-white-screen
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1109: [18:11:41] <steveheyes> hello all
1110: [18:13:05] <steveheyes> I was wondering if anyone called help with using HtmlEditorField on the front end?
1111: [18:13:20] <steveheyes> I’m getting a javascript error that says “Uncaught Error: cannot call methods on button prior to initialization; attempted to call method 'disable’”
1112: [18:13:30] <steveheyes> anyone got any idea how to sort this?
1113: [18:18:25] <steveheyes> anyone in here?
1114: [18:19:34] <muskie9> steveheyes sounds like some js is either not loading or loaded in the wrong order, haven't tried HTMLEditor in the front end in a long itme
1115: [18:20:32] <steveheyes> hmmm ok. I have a lot of javascript being loaded by Requirement by SS
1116: [18:22:15] <muskie9> I would think the field itself would load the required js for the field, are you trying to override something in the WYSIWYGseditor?
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1118: [18:32:21] <steveheyes> no not really
1119: [18:32:28] <steveheyes> just wanting to use it on the front end
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1124: [18:40:38] <Pyromanik> wut
1125: [18:42:49] <Pyromanik> steveheyes, ah. It's a bad idea to use the config intended for the CMS in the frontend.
1126: [18:43:06] <Pyromanik> Create your own configuration via HTMLEditorField and use that.
1127: [18:43:28] <steveheyes> right, I only want to use a few options; bold, italic, lists etc
1128: [18:43:33] <Pyromanik> iirc you can name them and call them to the fore by name before creating your field.
1129: [18:43:34] <steveheyes> no fancy pop ups or anything
1130: [18:43:44] <Pyromanik> yup, make your own config ;)
1131: [18:44:34] <Pyromanik> The form should never get used in the CMS, so you shouldn't really need to worry about config clashes (ie, accidentally using the wrong one in the wrong place)
1132: [18:45:31] <Pyromanik> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-HtmlEditorConfig.html
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1134: [18:48:01] <steveheyes> how do you create a new one?
1135: [18:48:28] <steveheyes> oh right use the get witha new name
1136: [18:50:18] <ss-helper> Re: Image crop without resize - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/101756#post401626
1137: [18:51:34] <steveheyes> So i’ve added a new config, and there is no JS error. But the textareas aren’t changing to tinymce
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1139: [18:59:28] <steveheyes> when i run ‘tinyMCE.init(ssTinyMceConfig);’ in the console it comes back with ‘undefined’
1140: [19:04:48] <Pyromanik> missing tinymce.js or something?
1141: [19:07:40] <steveheyes> no, the settings are right for it
1142: [19:14:04] <steveheyes> done it :)
1143: [19:14:11] <steveheyes> thanks all of you for your help
1144: [19:25:22] <Pyromanik> cool :)
1145: [19:25:36] <Pyromanik> what was issue in end steveheyes >
1146: [19:25:37] <Pyromanik> ?
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1149: [19:32:07] <steveheyes> um, a whole bunch of things. You were right with config stuff.
1150: [19:32:18] <steveheyes> I just had to do it via javascript rather than php
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1152: [19:35:32] <ss-helper> Re: Image crop without resize - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/101756#post401629
1153: [19:35:32] <ss-helper> Re: Image crop without resize - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/101756#post401628
1154: [19:35:32] <ss-helper> Re: Image crop without resize - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/101756#post401627
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1160: [19:50:37] <ss-helper> Re: Image crop without resize - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/template-questions/show/101756?start=8#post401630
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1171: [20:34:56] <antmas> mornin team o/
1172: [20:34:59] <Pyromanik> \o
1173: [20:35:35] <Stomach> how do \o
1174: [20:35:45] <Pyromanik> do well o/
1175: [20:36:25] <Stomach> yeah!
1176: [20:37:06] <antmas> client signed off on design that took me an afternoon, so I'm happy :D
1177: [20:37:53] <Pyromanik> ha,nice
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1184: [21:00:16] <antmas> DanaeNZ: o/
1185: [21:00:36] <DanaeNZ> antmas: \o
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1187: [21:01:00] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: o/
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1190: [21:04:56] <antmas> UncleCheese: o/
1191: [21:05:00] <UncleCheese> ugh
1192: [21:05:07] <antmas> oh noes
1193: [21:05:19] <UncleCheese> so depressing
1194: [21:05:45] <antmas> UncleCheese: no go on the house situation?
1195: [21:05:59] <UncleCheese> looks that way
1196: [21:06:02] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Sup
1197: [21:06:13] <UncleCheese> $483k, they countered at $535k
1198: [21:06:22] <antmas> UncleCheese: woah
1199: [21:06:26] <UncleCheese> fuckers
1200: [21:06:42] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Lesson 18: How to set real estate business ablaze with these household items.
1201: [21:06:51] <UncleCheese> Ha!
1202: [21:06:51] <Ryan-Toast> businesses
1203: [21:07:05] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: lol
1204: [21:07:31] <antmas> UncleCheese: bear in mind this is the first offer you've made, maybe second, probably lots more to come before you actually settle
1205: [21:08:09] <UncleCheese> maybe
1206: [21:08:13] <UncleCheese> we're not going over 5
1207: [21:08:24] <antmas> man
1208: [21:08:26] <UncleCheese> i'm thinking 495k, then see how far they move
1209: [21:08:28] <antmas> so differnent up there
1210: [21:08:33] <antmas> we're not going over 3 :P
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1212: [21:08:38] <UncleCheese> and if there's significant motion, we'll go to 5
1213: [21:08:41] <antmas> unless it's a deal too good to be true etc
1214: [21:08:49] <UncleCheese> depressing
1215: [21:09:35] <UncleCheese> if RV $510k really means $535k, then we need to start looking in the mid 4's.. and have you seen what you get for $400k in wellington? it looks like the spoils of a failed soviet state
1216: [21:09:52] <antmas> lol
1217: [21:10:03] <antmas> I don't think it does
1218: [21:10:11] <UncleCheese> it's pretty bad
1219: [21:10:31] <antmas> I mean, there are RV places around here of $310k for example, but they're selling for $295k etc
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1222: [21:12:10] <antmas> anyone recommend a pdf viewer that can embed on a page?
1223: [21:13:21] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: generator, or viewer?
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1225: [21:13:27] <antmas> viewer
1226: [21:13:35] <Ryan-Toast> Like in an iframe or something?
1227: [21:14:11] <antmas> yeah I guess
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1230: [21:16:32] <antmas> need to be able to view a pdf from within /assets/uploads etc ...
1231: [21:16:40] <antmas> I guess the google one might work
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1233: [21:22:43] <Ryan-Toast> Dammit.
1234: [21:22:47] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese, come back
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1236: [21:24:27] <antmas> zippy: even more brrrrr today :O
1237: [21:24:36] <zippy> mm
1238: [21:24:36] <antmas> zippy: also, o/
1239: [21:24:40] <zippy> \o
1240: [21:24:52] <zippy> Stomach: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/68725219/bighitting-tim-southee-whacks-reporter-at-black-caps-cricket-practice-at-lords
1241: [21:25:06] <Stomach> haha yeah saw that :D
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1243: [21:25:41] <antmas> Stomach: zippy thump!
1244: [21:25:47] <zippy> yeap :)
1245: [21:25:53] <antmas> can't imagine that would feel good hitting the shoulder blade
1246: [21:26:39] <zippy> least didn't get hit in the eye like that Indian cop at the IPL and lose an eye, daammy
1247: [21:26:54] <antmas> zippy: so close to rain you can smell it
1248: [21:27:01] <zippy> spitting
1249: [21:27:06] <antmas> oh it is?
1250: [21:27:09] * antmas looks out window
1251: [21:27:34] <antmas> so it is
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1255: [21:38:12] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Hey, man. Just notcied something in the lesson.
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1257: [21:38:16] <Ryan-Toast> NOO
1258: [21:38:20] <Ryan-Toast> COME BACK HERE
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1260: [21:42:07] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: only thing with videos, if something changes or there is a mistake... re-record
1261: [21:42:09] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: lol
1262: [21:42:15] <Ryan-Toast> lol, yup.
1263: [21:42:20] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
1264: [21:44:35] <zippy> I've always found it interesting the use of the base_tag
1265: [21:44:42] <zippy> just which some crawlers handled it better
1266: [21:44:47] <zippy> get some pretty rubbish 404 errors
1267: [21:45:14] <zippy> hahahahahah http://i.imgur.com/c6uGJV0.gifv
1268: [21:45:17] <antmas> zippy: mmm that's annoying
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1276: [22:01:00] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: Where’s UC :P
1277: [22:02:05] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: is it something in the latest vid?
1278: [22:02:12] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Yarp
1279: [22:02:18] <antmas> oooooh
1280: [22:02:22] <antmas> what is it?
1281: [22:02:26] <Ryan-Toast> Well may be, not sure.
1282: [22:02:32] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
1283: [22:02:58] <Ryan-Toast> When you go to page two or something, then click into an item. If you click the back button the page will render with the Include, and not the Holder.
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1285: [22:09:58] <antmas> omg
1286: [22:10:06] <antmas> this office chair has the worst creaky noise
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1288: [22:19:44] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: quick, get em! UncleCheese
1289: [22:19:46] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese
1290: [22:19:48] <Ryan-Toast> yo
1291: [22:19:50] <UncleCheese> hi
1292: [22:19:59] <Ryan-Toast> You keep leaving when I ask a question :P
1293: [22:20:07] <Ryan-Toast> “When you go to page two or something, then click into an item. If you click the back button the page will render with the Include, and not the Holder."
1294: [22:20:13] <Ryan-Toast> for the lesson yesterday
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1296: [22:21:10] <antmas> irogue: o/
1297: [22:22:27] <zippy> UC is pumping out lessons still? decent...
1298: [22:22:31] <zippy> UncleCheese: how'd the house go?
1299: [22:22:31] <UncleCheese> hmm
1300: [22:22:35] <irogue> antmas: \o
1301: [22:22:37] <UncleCheese> depressing
1302: [22:22:40] <zippy> :(
1303: [22:22:53] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast sounds like the onpopstate event isn't firing for you?
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1305: [22:23:24] <UncleCheese> zippy lessons is my job.. it's just been diluated lately as we seek a dev resource
1306: [22:24:05] <UncleCheese> zippy we made a good offer, they drew a big middle finger on it, and sent it back to us.
1307: [22:24:22] <zippy> lol really
1308: [22:24:25] <zippy> wow
1309: [22:24:46] <antmas> UncleCheese: this is the woman that really want you to get it?
1310: [22:24:50] <UncleCheese> ok, maybe that's just allegorical
1311: [22:24:59] <UncleCheese> they wiped their ass with it
1312: [22:25:30] <UncleCheese> we offered $483k, they countered at $535k
1313: [22:25:43] <irogue> what's it listed at?
1314: [22:25:49] <UncleCheese> "by negotiation"
1315: [22:25:57] <irogue> fuck by negotiation
1316: [22:25:59] <UncleCheese> which is like... if you already know what you want, just say it
1317: [22:26:05] <UncleCheese> so we don't waste our fucking time and get our hopes up
1318: [22:26:18] <UncleCheese> seriously.. we were already arranging our furniture and looking at kindies
1319: [22:26:32] <UncleCheese> so stupid
1320: [22:26:45] <UncleCheese> we'll come up to $495k, but i can't imagine we'll see much movement
1321: [22:26:47] <antmas> yeah by negotiation is always bullshit
1322: [22:27:15] <irogue> "by negotiation" is a way for agents to be able to judge what they think you can afford so they can screw the price up above what the seller even expected
1323: [22:27:20] <irogue> cos then they get more commission
1324: [22:27:22] <antmas> 'make us an offer over $400k' = 'make us an offer closer to $500k'
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1326: [22:31:53] <zippy> Stomach: you work at Little Giant don't you?
1327: [22:32:30] <zippy> yeap :)
1328: [22:32:48] <Stomach> zippy yes
1329: [22:33:10] <zippy> nice website
1330: [22:34:36] * veb quit (Quit: veb-irc: &)
1331: [22:35:03] <Stomach> thanks :)
1332: [22:35:05] <Stomach> its wordpress
1333: [22:35:08] <zippy> it is
1334: [22:35:44] <zippy> nice mamoth in source
1335: [22:37:16] * irogue revokes Little Giant's SS partnership for using WP :P
1336: [22:39:29] <antmas> <@UncleCheese> seriously.. we were already arranging our furniture and looking at kindies
1337: [22:39:38] <antmas> oh man, it got you good! :(
1338: [22:39:43] <UncleCheese> fuckers
1339: [22:39:55] <adrexia> * irogue revokes Little Giant's SS partnership for using WP :P
1340: [22:39:56] <adrexia> lol
1341: [22:39:58] <UncleCheese> irogue i thought about the commission issue
1342: [22:40:19] <UncleCheese> it seems to me the agent would be working for us in this case
1343: [22:40:31] <UncleCheese> property has been on the market for 90+ days.. she wants her payday
1344: [22:40:46] <antmas> UncleCheese: has it had many offers?
1345: [22:40:54] <UncleCheese> they go $20k less than they want, big deal.. it's $1k to her.. she still gets a big paycheck
1346: [22:41:04] <UncleCheese> can i ask that?
1347: [22:41:16] <antmas> UncleCheese: surely
1348: [22:41:26] <UncleCheese> she's jsut going to lie
1349: [22:41:36] <UncleCheese> "yes, we've had a lot of offers for much more than yours"
1350: [22:41:37] <antmas> yeah probably
1351: [22:41:48] <zippy> UncleCheese: if that is true, why didn't they take them
1352: [22:41:54] <antmas> mm
1353: [22:42:15] <irogue> [10:40] <@UncleCheese> property has been on the market for 90+ days..
1354: [22:42:30] <irogue> Signs you're not buying a house in Auckland #1
1355: [22:42:39] <zippy> lol
1356: [22:42:55] <antmas> most property managers I've talked to recently agree that if a house doesn't sell in 6 weeks, there is something very wrong
1357: [22:44:14] <irogue> yeah usually if a house doesn't sell its because the seller has unrealistic expectations. the place I currently live in (rental) took ages to sell, and the real estate agent told me one day while setting up for an open home that he was going to stop doing open homes because the seller expected too much $$ and it was wasting his (RE agent's) time putting any effort in
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1359: [22:44:53] <irogue> yes, auckland housing is expensive, but this is still deep south auckland not Mt Eden
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1361: [22:45:20] <antmas> is housing still crazy expensive in chch?
1362: [22:45:46] <UncleCheese> irogue ha!
1363: [22:46:18] <UncleCheese> i kind of wonder if these people are just ambivalent about moving
1364: [22:47:17] <xyphoid> we are househunting in chch at the moment
1365: [22:47:27] <xyphoid> it's not as stupid as auckland but it's spiked the last few years
1366: [22:47:31] <xyphoid> seems to be flattening right now
1367: [22:47:36] <irogue> I'd expect my place to be worth similar to http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-877926368.htm
1368: [22:47:47] <irogue> similar area, size etc
1369: [22:48:00] <ss23> Stomach: He's here!
1370: [22:48:10] <Stomach> hes here?!
1371: [22:48:16] * antmas is here!
1372: [22:48:43] <ss23> Yeah!
1373: [22:48:43] <xyphoid> we've seen a few places where the real estate agent has that crazed, desperate look that i enjoy
1374: [22:49:20] <Stomach> whats going ooonnnn
1375: [22:49:21] <antmas> xyphoid: lol
1376: [22:49:49] <antmas> xyphoid: dat look when you go to an open home and they see you approaching from the drive way
1377: [22:49:55] <Stomach> irogue you cant revoke us :(
1378: [22:50:17] <Stomach> I'll stop our conversation about using SilverStripe platform then
1379: [22:50:25] <Stomach> although I do really want ss23's DDI for midnight calls
1380: [22:50:43] <ss-helper> Re: SilverStripe 3.2 Beta1 - Yes this is actually happening - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-dev/8Y5xNSAEUfA/1CTpOgkOrfkJ
1381: [22:50:51] <zippy> 3.2!
1382: [22:51:04] <antmas> Stomach: it's in the paper, under 'ss bootycalls'
1383: [22:51:09] <Stomach> haha
1384: [22:51:18] <ss23> Stomach: 0% chance
1385: [22:51:23] <ss23> 0%!
1386: [22:51:25] <Stomach> :(
1387: [22:51:38] <ss23> Man so my team is having a meeting
1388: [22:51:40] <xyphoid> some of the places you can just see the despair at having to deal with weirdo house features
1389: [22:51:41] <ss23> I turned up a few mins late
1390: [22:51:43] <ss23> CAN'T FIND THEM
1391: [22:51:50] <ss23> They're not on any meeting rooms on this floor I can see
1392: [22:51:55] <xyphoid> like the one where the whole back yard was tunnel houses and custom irrigation stuff
1393: [22:52:08] <simon_w|air> It's going to be hilarious if PHP7 is released before SS 3.2
1394: [22:52:14] <MichalKleiner> haha
1395: [22:52:14] <ss23> So I have a good excuse to not go to the meeting, since I can't find them, but I know if I don't txt them they'll be like "wtf, why didn't you come"
1396: [22:52:40] <antmas> ss23: lol that's the weakest excuse ever
1397: [22:52:48] <ss23> lol
1398: [22:52:56] <ss23> IT'S NOT THE MEETING ROOM SPECIFIED IN GOOGLE CALENDAR MAN
1399: [22:53:01] <ss23> IT'S NOT MY FAULT NO ONE UPDATED THE INVITATION
1400: [22:53:08] <antmas> yeah but you're late
1401: [22:53:11] <antmas> :P
1402: [22:53:24] <zippy> ss23: maybe there is a reason they didn't update it......
1403: [22:53:31] <antmas> lol
1404: [22:53:33] <antmas> burn
1405: [22:53:34] <ss23> exactly!
1406: [22:53:35] <antmas> :P
1407: [22:53:41] <ss23> Maybe they want me to not clarify where it is
1408: [22:53:43] <adrexia> you actually just weren't invited to the real meeting
1409: [22:53:49] <ss23> okay good ideas
1410: [22:53:54] <ss23> I'm going to use these as excuses when I get fired for this
1411: [22:53:55] <antmas> 'no homers'
1412: [22:53:59] <adrexia> lols
1413: [22:54:10] <ss23> I hear someone signing maybe it's someone from my meeting
1414: [22:54:11] <ss23> It was
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1416: [22:54:39] <DanaeNZ> antmas: hahaha
1417: [22:54:42] <adrexia> hhow can you hear people sign?
1418: [22:54:46] <antmas> micmania1: o/
1419: [22:55:14] <ss23> sing!
1420: [22:55:15] <antmas> adrexia: the little whips of air, like karate moves
1421: [22:55:16] <ss23> :(
1422: [22:55:19] <micmania1> areeet
1423: [22:55:32] <adrexia> oh. I though you had some sort of super power
1424: [22:55:35] <adrexia> nvm
1425: [22:55:36] <Colin[pi]> morning all o/
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1427: [22:55:50] <adrexia> mornin'
1428: [22:55:52] <antmas> Colin[pi]: WandL o/
1429: [22:55:58] <Colin[pi]> antmas: o/
1430: [22:56:01] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: o/
1431: [22:56:07] <antmas> I fixed sharepoint search!
1432: [22:56:14] <adrexia> |o|
1433: [22:56:18] <antmas> sorry, just had to say that out loud
1434: [22:56:35] <adrexia> antmas, I beleive there are support groups for that
1435: [22:56:36] <irogue> [10:52] <@ss23> IT'S NOT THE MEETING ROOM SPECIFIED IN GOOGLE CALENDAR MAN
1436: [22:56:44] <adrexia> if not, maybe you should start one
1437: [22:56:46] <irogue> is that because there was a dismantled table in that room?
1438: [22:56:58] <antmas> adrexia: there are, but they're more like cults
1439: [22:57:16] <antmas> irogue: is it ss23's desk?
1440: [22:57:18] <adrexia> oh? I thgought you all sat in a circle and talked about your horrible lives
1441: [22:57:58] <antmas> adrexia: 'its been 23 days since my last successful search crawl' 'I think I'm at breaking point'
1442: [22:58:00] <irogue> nah, Microsoft is a bit like Gloriavale, folks don't realise how horrible and incestuous their lives are until they escape
1443: [22:58:41] <adrexia> I think Drupal is a bit like that too, to be honest
1444: [22:58:46] <antmas> I should submit my experience to Cambell live
1445: [22:58:54] <adrexia> lol
1446: [22:59:20] <irogue> I guess the upside of SS is that traditionally it hasn't been many peoples' first CMS/framework
1447: [22:59:31] <irogue> so anyone who used it had other experiences to compare it to
1448: [22:59:40] <antmas> "I... I put so much effort into Sharepoint, bu... but it just KEPT TAKING EVERYTHING AWAY" *sobs*
1449: [23:00:28] <adrexia> irogue it was basicallymine. Apart from 'build your own''s
1450: [23:00:56] <adrexia> so the downside is that I have Silverstripe as a baseline
1451: [23:01:12] <adrexia> and I'm constantly surprised at how much worse it gets
1452: [23:02:34] <irogue> lol
1453: [23:03:06] <irogue> my first CMS was phpNuke...
1454: [23:03:17] <irogue> so its only uphill from there
1455: [23:03:45] <Colin[pi]> irogue: lol
1456: [23:04:34] <irogue> I had better luck with OOP framework, started with CakePHP which is actually decent
1457: [23:05:08] <antmas> my first was derpal
1458: [23:05:10] <ss23> 10:56:46 < irogue> is that because there was a dismantled table in that room?
1459: [23:05:13] <ss23> yes
1460: [23:05:14] <ss23> idek
1461: [23:05:15] <Ryan-Toast> CakePHP was my first too.
1462: [23:05:16] <antmas> it wasn't ... gentle
1463: [23:05:22] <MichalKleiner> my first was Nette.. which is actually fw, not cms
1464: [23:05:39] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: it’s… been awhile https://github.com/Rhym/cakeStrap
1465: [23:05:40] <Colin[pi]> my first was Vignette
1466: [23:05:46] <Colin[pi]> did anyone ever use that?
1467: [23:06:05] <MichalKleiner> yeah, on a bottle of wine
1468: [23:06:26] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: is there a demo of the current lesson online?
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1471: [23:07:31] <irogue> Ryan-Toast: hehehe. that's way newer Cake than I used tho!
1472: [23:07:49] <Ryan-Toast> irogue: I didn;t start making websites too long ago :P
1473: [23:08:11] <irogue> I think 1.2 was the newest version of Cake I used
1474: [23:08:32] <Ryan-Toast> 2.0 was mine I think
1475: [23:08:46] <zippy> irogue: CakePHP? you want some arrays with that
1476: [23:08:52] <zippy> array(array(array(array(array
1477: [23:08:58] * zippy still dreams of all those arrays
1478: [23:09:07] <irogue> lol
1479: [23:09:13] <Ryan-Toast> I used to fucking love the bake script.
1480: [23:09:14] <zippy> Using that then something like SIlverstripe or Yii was like, zomg
1481: [23:09:18] <Ryan-Toast> Was so cool.
1482: [23:09:27] <zippy> yea the scaffolding was pretty cool
1483: [23:09:39] <zippy> but there was just something about it with me that didn't click
1484: [23:09:47] <Ryan-Toast> I remember trying SS in like 2011 and thinking it was shit.
1485: [23:10:10] <zippy> "argh this is soo slow..."
1486: [23:10:13] <zippy> how things have changed
1487: [23:10:27] <Ryan-Toast> Have they? :P
1488: [23:10:34] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: yeah my first thoughts were that it was slow as fuck
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1490: [23:11:51] <irogue> jetstream.xtra.co.nz - I love how they just never bother changing reverse dns on their IPs, it makes for some sweet nostalgia
1491: [23:12:30] <antmas> omg this guy sucks http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/68727579/could-brock-baker-replace-harry-shearer-on-the-simpsons
1492: [23:13:34] <ss23> I'm a little bit hungry but don't wanna eat
1493: [23:13:34] <ss23> :(
1494: [23:14:22] <zippy> ss23: there was probably snacks at the meeting
1495: [23:14:33] <ss23> ;_;
1496: [23:14:36] <ss23> THERE WASN'T
1497: [23:14:38] <ss23> THERE NEVER IS
1498: [23:14:45] <ss23> I think I want some fries from McDonalds
1499: [23:15:24] <adrexia> antmas he's not that bad
1500: [23:16:08] <antmas> adrexia: he 'sounds' like the characters, but not even close to believable imo
1501: [23:16:08] <irogue> he's ok as an impressionist, but nowhere near good enough for a replacement imo
1502: [23:16:18] <antmas> irogue: +1
1503: [23:16:26] * adrexia shrugs
1504: [23:16:35] <irogue> problem is the lack of vocal range - his voice isn't very deep
1505: [23:16:52] <adrexia> maybe he could do half of them
1506: [23:16:57] <antmas> his flanders sounds like smithers which also sounds like brockman
1507: [23:16:59] <adrexia> and they could hire a few people
1508: [23:17:50] <irogue> always been pretty impressed by this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz64myc8QHM
1509: [23:18:16] <antmas> irogue: dat haircut
1510: [23:18:58] <antmas> irogue: holy shit he's good though
1511: [23:19:00] <irogue> haha yeah. absurdly deep voice for a 14yo too... kinda weird
1512: [23:19:27] <antmas> he's 14?!
1513: [23:19:30] <antmas> woah
1514: [23:20:13] <antmas> his morgan freeman was weak though
1515: [23:20:23] <irogue> yeah
1516: [23:20:30] <irogue> and batman
1517: [23:20:53] <irogue> the jason statham is great
1518: [23:21:03] <antmas> yeah and Ted
1519: [23:21:15] <ss23> bah
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1521: [23:21:23] <antmas> spronk2: o/
1522: [23:21:28] <irogue> this guy wins as far as singing impressions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNdg3F686hg
1523: [23:21:31] <antmas> spronk2: were you asking about SEO the other day?
1524: [23:21:42] <ss23> "it's insecure having 500 test sites on one box that everyone has access to" "okay lets make a new server and migrate those 500 sites" "great idea! that'll be more secure, somehow, magically"
1525: [23:21:56] <zippy> irogue: this guy not too bad https://youtu.be/1AUglmXa3b0?list=TLS756J10x3gtKz2S89KA8N1F75iSGHmew&t=225
1526: [23:22:00] <zippy> shame about the mono
1527: [23:22:04] <spronk2> \o antmas and yeah i was
1528: [23:22:04] <spronk2> lawl ss23
1529: [23:22:15] <zippy> irogue: and fu for getting me on youtube! argh
1530: [23:22:17] <zippy> :P
1531: [23:22:19] <adrexia> I think this guy is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp1BYzIVi0U
1532: [23:22:31] <adrexia> but maybe not for simposons ;)
1533: [23:23:06] <antmas> spronk2: I got given a 'research' pack from Yellow Pages for the SEO they did on a client site
1534: [23:23:17] <antmas> spronk2: looked expensive, but pretty damn good imo
1535: [23:23:21] <zippy> irogue: and this guy for rapping; https://youtu.be/-QRNa99KCtc?t=47
1536: [23:23:41] <spronk2> oh? interesting
1537: [23:24:15] <spronk2> ffs os x
1538: [23:24:20] <antmas> spronk2: I could ask how much they charged if you like
1539: [23:24:23] <spronk2> its moved some of my windows off the screen
1540: [23:24:35] <zippy> spronk2: time for the new 15"
1541: [23:24:38] <irogue> zippy: bahaha, those rapper impressions
1542: [23:24:41] <spronk2> ughhhh
1543: [23:27:29] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese
1544: [23:27:35] <Ryan-Toast> did a test on your version.
1545: [23:27:38] <Ryan-Toast> I have the same issue
1546: [23:29:20] <simon_w|air> UncleCheese, why has no one answered my tweeters question?
1547: [23:32:28] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Screengrab of what’s ahppening http://www.gfycat.com/ObviousMaleAfghanhound
1548: [23:33:42] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: it's using the ajax response of that page from your browsers cache when you hit back
1549: [23:34:11] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: anything we can do for that?
1550: [23:34:20] <zippy> I wonder if it's something to do with the history stack push thing, the browser is attributing the ajax response to that url.... maybe...
1551: [23:34:30] <zippy> i am in no way sure, that is just my thought
1552: [23:35:38] <Ryan-Toast> People will click back on stuff like that, so It’s a pretty big issue.
1553: [23:36:12] <zippy> I wonder if that is what UC was meaning about the popstate not firing
1554: [23:37:11] <Ryan-Toast> popstate does trigger when history is changed.
1555: [23:38:02] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6421769/popstate-on-pages-load-in-chrome ?
1556: [23:38:10] <zippy> linked from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6309477/moving-back-to-a-pushstate-entry-that-used-ajax
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1558: [23:41:21] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: ohhhh yeah that's pretty big
1559: [23:41:28] <antmas> most people are going to hit that back
1560: [23:42:07] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, looks like a chrome issue
1561: [23:42:42] <antmas> fucking chrome and caching
1562: [23:42:55] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: does the solution fix it?
1563: [23:43:04] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: Will give it a go now.
1564: [23:47:18] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: No, it’s still detecting a history state
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