#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 10 May 2015

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6: [00:44:24] <dospuntocero> hey guys has anyone of you tried to use composer to install the new blog module?
7: [00:44:33] <dospuntocero> im getting this error: Could not find package 2.0.*@dev at any version for your minimum-stability (dev). Check the package spelling or your minimum-stability
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62: [09:16:27] <markcl> Hello
63: [09:16:36] <markcl> I need to use a DataObject outside of Silverstripe
64: [09:16:43] <markcl> For example, in Behat
65: [09:17:35] <markcl> I don't want to use the Silverstripe Behat context
66: [09:17:41] <markcl> as that makes tests real slow
67: [09:18:00] <markcl> due to having to make its own db which gets populated by random data
68: [09:18:17] <markcl> which is really slow
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71: [09:31:47] <markcl1> Say, I have a DataObject named Event
72: [09:31:57] <markcl1> I want to call Event::get() in 'a.php'
73: [09:32:00] <markcl1> How do I do that?
74: [10:05:13] <markcl1> Does anyone actually use BDD on Silverstripe successfully?
75: [10:05:49] <markcl1> I just developer a workflow actually, that makes BDD in SS be very fast.
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77: [10:26:18] <markcl1> ok, i guess these are the times no one wants to talk in the room
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79: [10:39:09] <Kutten> Hi, I tried to follow the first tutorial and using ?flush was supposed to take me to my "hello world" page that i just created, but instead silver stripe asks me to log in. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
80: [10:59:20] <markcl1> are you on live mode Kutten?
81: [11:18:11] <Kutten> markcl1: Live mode?
82: [11:18:37] <Kutten> markcl1: I might be, how do I toggle that?
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84: [11:47:41] <markcl1> _config.php?
85: [11:47:47] <markcl1> or _ss_environment.php
86: [11:47:51] <markcl1> depends on your setup
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89: [11:56:48] <ss23> So I cloned my works access card onto my hand finally - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkWVbpLdAPI
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100: [13:17:28] <ocmnt> howdy ho!
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119: [14:40:27] <zauberfisch> ss23: so, wait
120: [14:40:53] <zauberfisch> you have implanted it, or is there some kind of paint or "sticker" you can apply on top of your skin?
121: [15:04:06] <ss23> Implanted :D
122: [15:04:19] <ss23> zauberfisch: https://twitter.com/liamosaur/status/594762346473525248
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137: [19:13:33] <newbwiththisshai> How can I add custom .php pages to silverstripe? so i can use them like pages i create in cms?
138: [19:17:40] <newbwiththisshai> all i need is to find the code where main navigation links are created so i can change one to my own .php file
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141: [19:22:14] <newbwiththisshai> meh just gonna hardcode it to header.ss
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144: [20:01:05] <Stomach> hey UncleCheese
145: [20:01:26] <UncleCheese> hi
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148: [20:22:34] <Stomach> bye!
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150: [20:40:32] <Stomach> how goes the rental woes UncleCheese - sorted that shit out yet?
151: [20:40:49] <UncleCheese> landlord has agreed to let us out of the lease
152: [20:40:58] <UncleCheese> but she still thinks she's doing us a favour
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154: [20:41:10] <UncleCheese> doesn't get that the lease affords us the option
155: [20:41:15] <UncleCheese> so whatever
156: [20:41:37] <Stomach> meh, that you can get out is all that matters
157: [20:41:37] <UncleCheese> next problem -- find a place to live that is ready at exactly the same time that we find a replacement tenant
158: [20:41:46] <UncleCheese> oh, and before that, look for tenants who are dumb enough to pay this rent
159: [20:42:25] <antmas> UncleCheese: no luck with lawyer etc?
160: [20:42:32] <UncleCheese> we won't need one..
161: [20:42:33] <antmas> also, morning al o/
162: [20:42:44] <UncleCheese> her position is basically, "I will let you do this, because i'm nice"
163: [20:42:46] <Stomach> hey antmas \o
164: [20:42:56] <antmas> UncleCheese: oh, so good outcome generally>
165: [20:42:58] <antmas> ?
166: [20:43:00] <UncleCheese> and I'm like, "ok, keep telling yourself that, but if you don't, you're in violation of the lease"
167: [20:43:01] <antmas> Stomach: o/
168: [20:43:15] <Stomach> how much rent are you paying UncleCheese
169: [20:43:35] <Stomach> my brother and sister in law are moving to Wellington in August :P
170: [20:43:37] <UncleCheese> 515
171: [20:43:41] <UncleCheese> oh this was good
172: [20:43:49] <antmas> 515
173: [20:43:51] <antmas> jesus
174: [20:43:55] <UncleCheese> so we pay $515, and $10 of that is a dog fee
175: [20:44:09] <UncleCheese> so i was like, when we list the place, is it $505 if they don't have a dog?
176: [20:44:14] <UncleCheese> "no, still $515"
177: [20:44:18] <antmas> LOL
178: [20:44:19] <antmas> that is balls
179: [20:44:27] <UncleCheese> "That doesn't make sense"
180: [20:44:31] <antmas> 'you pay for ghost dog fee'
181: [20:44:46] <UncleCheese> "I renewed your lease on good faith that you'd stay. I was planning on raising the rent by $10, but I didn't"
182: [20:45:04] <Stomach> UncleCheese - 2 bedroom standalone house though right? with sweet defects everywhere? :D
183: [20:45:16] <UncleCheese> yeah, that's .. really legally binding.. I believe that falls under the "oh, shit, let me make up some retroactive ass coverage bullshit" law
184: [20:45:32] <UncleCheese> it's a two storey house, 3 bed, with a garden
185: [20:45:38] <UncleCheese> in the armpit of wellington
186: [20:45:41] <antmas> lol
187: [20:45:54] <UncleCheese> actually, it's not a bad location.. it's right at the bottom of old coach road
188: [20:46:14] <UncleCheese> your backyard is basically an amazing tramp up mt kaukau
189: [20:46:17] <UncleCheese> quite beautiful
190: [20:46:46] <UncleCheese> by the way, it is not lawful in new zealand to charge a "dog fee"
191: [20:46:47] <antmas> UncleCheese: have you guys been preapproved for a mortgage or anything yet?
192: [20:46:53] <UncleCheese> nope.. we're close
193: [20:47:04] <UncleCheese> oh, maybe you can help me antmas
194: [20:47:20] <antmas> UncleCheese: if I can, sure :D
195: [20:47:22] <UncleCheese> this house that we like in brooklyn was valued at $515k in 2013.. we have the paperwork
196: [20:47:30] <UncleCheese> she has offered to sell it to us for $494
197: [20:47:34] <antmas> right
198: [20:48:00] <UncleCheese> hoping that a few years have added some value.. market has not gone down.. maybe 2015 valuation is ilke... $520
199: [20:48:14] <antmas> thats reasonable
200: [20:48:14] <UncleCheese> so i'm buying about 5% below that.. that doesn't help my LVR?
201: [20:49:04] <UncleCheese> apparently, the bank still thinks it's worth $494k.. doesn't matter if it was valued higher.. it's what you pay
202: [20:49:06] <Stomach> nope, LVR is separate from the house valuation isn't it?
203: [20:49:12] <UncleCheese> that's what i thought
204: [20:49:18] <antmas> that is correct
205: [20:49:22] <antmas> separate
206: [20:49:33] <UncleCheese> but basically what i'm asking is, do i get credit for a 5% "deposit" by virtue of buying low?
207: [20:49:49] <Stomach> nope
208: [20:49:51] <antmas> no
209: [20:49:52] <UncleCheese> !
210: [20:49:56] <Stomach> banks are banks man
211: [20:49:56] <UncleCheese> that makes no sense
212: [20:49:59] <Stomach> they gonna bank
213: [20:50:22] <Stomach> it makes total sense - your LVR is against your loan, not the house value
214: [20:50:23] <UncleCheese> so, ok, let's use an extreme example... i buy a $400k house for $100k. My $10k deposit is still only 10%?
215: [20:50:28] <Stomach> yes
216: [20:50:28] <antmas> ^^^
217: [20:50:39] <UncleCheese> wait
218: [20:50:45] <UncleCheese> Loan to Value Ratio
219: [20:50:58] <UncleCheese> Value == the valuation, right?
220: [20:51:06] <antmas> yes
221: [20:51:12] <UncleCheese> so even if i borrow 100% of the purchase price.. $494k
222: [20:51:18] <UncleCheese> 494/520 = 0.95
223: [20:51:24] <Stomach> the valuation at the time of purchase is ... the purchase price
224: [20:51:29] <UncleCheese> fuck that bullshit
225: [20:51:45] <Stomach> hahaha
226: [20:51:47] <UncleCheese> ok, well i guess we're not buying a home in brooklyn
227: [20:51:52] <Stomach> well you can buy it
228: [20:51:55] <Stomach> with a high LVR
229: [20:51:56] <antmas> UncleCheese: get a mortgage broker, it will make more sense then
230: [20:52:00] <UncleCheese> i have one
231: [20:52:04] <Stomach> then sell it to yourself
232: [20:52:04] <UncleCheese> and he said, "it doesn't work that way"
233: [20:52:06] <antmas> who with?
234: [20:52:07] <Stomach> and get a better LVR
235: [20:52:20] <UncleCheese> Luke Williams.. a Better Mortgage
236: [20:52:22] <UncleCheese> he's awesome
237: [20:52:47] <UncleCheese> also
238: [20:52:53] <UncleCheese> house is in an "extra high wind zone"
239: [20:52:56] <UncleCheese> any idea?
240: [20:53:02] <antmas> we're going with ANZ purely because awesome rates, they're GIVING us almost $8k in cash and fees and I made 3 of them fight to the death to get my business
241: [20:53:17] <UncleCheese> antmas high LVR or no?
242: [20:53:32] <antmas> UncleCheese: haven't got that far yet
243: [20:53:37] <antmas> we just know what we can borrow
244: [20:53:58] <UncleCheese> problem with low LVR is the fees
245: [20:54:04] <antmas> also, slightly different for us as we're using a gaurantor
246: [20:54:07] <antmas> (spelling)
247: [20:54:35] <UncleCheese> that's weird, though
248: [20:54:49] <UncleCheese> so my LVR is reflective of the purchase price
249: [20:54:52] <antmas> also told my friend who'd use them before to refer me and give me the referer cash (extra $400 ) :D
250: [20:54:53] <antmas> win
251: [20:55:08] <UncleCheese> but if i ever want to do work on the house, i would borrow against the market value of the house, not the purchase price
252: [20:55:44] <UncleCheese> what kind of rates are you looking at?
253: [20:56:03] <antmas> uhhh I'd need to check
254: [20:56:13] <antmas> was preapproved like 4 months ago
255: [20:56:18] <antmas> "The Loan to Value ratio (LVR) is the amount of your loan compared to the value of your property. LVR is calculated by dividing the amount of the loan by the value of the property. For example, if the property is worth $250,000 and you have a deposit of $50,000, the LVR will be 80%. ($250,000-$50,000)÷$250,000 = 80%."
256: [20:57:18] <UncleCheese> yay!
257: [20:57:25] <antmas> :D
258: [20:57:26] <UncleCheese> that supports my case, right?
259: [20:57:33] <antmas> yeah pretty much
260: [20:57:40] <UncleCheese> sweet as
261: [20:57:43] <UncleCheese> free 5%
262: [20:57:44] <antmas> UncleCheese: got that from here https://www.bnz.co.nz/support/home-loans/loan-to-value-ratio
263: [20:59:15] <UncleCheese> otherwise, someone buying a $400k property for $100k with 0% deposit would be looked at as higher risk than someone buying a $400k property for $400k with 5% deposit
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265: [21:00:51] <UncleCheese> antmas what kind of rates are you looking at?
266: [21:15:27] <antmas> UncleCheese: I can't remember, I will have to go looking for the form I got
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268: [21:15:43] <antmas> UncleCheese: I do remember it being 'low to normal' :P
269: [21:18:37] <antmas> UncleCheese: you're talking about interest rates yeah?
270: [21:19:29] <UncleCheese> yeah
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275: [21:46:50] <Stomach> man, everyone must be so busy today
276: [21:47:32] <adrexia> why?
277: [21:48:02] <antmas> I'm watching paint dry (windows updates on vm)
278: [21:48:07] <antmas> \o/
279: [21:50:00] <Stomach> adrexia the lack of banter in IRC :P
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281: [21:54:32] <Ryan-Toast> Talking to new dev.
282: [21:57:47] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: :O
283: [21:59:26] <antmas> I have an egg on the side of my head from the hood on our oven at home ;____;
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285: [22:05:45] * antmas rubs his egg
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287: [22:15:17] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast you should rub new devs egg
288: [22:15:17] <Stomach> ;)
289: [22:15:56] <adrexia> oh... you mean you hit your head? Not that you're embarrassed or literally have egg on your head
290: [22:15:58] <antmas> lol
291: [22:16:09] <adrexia> its too early for non-literals ;)
292: [22:16:17] <antmas> adrexia: literally have a big lump above my right temple :(
293: [22:16:22] <adrexia> ouch
294: [22:16:28] <Stomach> I agree that its concerning that your oven hood is laying egss
295: [22:16:31] <Stomach> eggs*
296: [22:16:36] <antmas> lol
297: [22:17:04] <antmas> it's just right at that 'fuck you' height above the stove
298: [22:17:10] <adrexia> :-/
299: [22:17:14] <Stomach> I hate that height
300: [22:17:48] <adrexia> yeah we have a roof that does that to people. it's sloped on the top floor
301: [22:17:49] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: what’s this about eggs?
302: [22:18:06] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast is new dev good?
303: [22:18:12] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, real good.
304: [22:18:17] <adrexia> +1
305: [22:18:20] <Ryan-Toast> she’s given talks to SS meetups before.
306: [22:18:26] <Ryan-Toast> Danae Miller-Clendon.
307: [22:18:27] <adrexia> oh, what's her name?
308: [22:18:38] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: ^
309: [22:18:38] <adrexia> ahh, don't know it, but sweet as!
310: [22:18:38] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I have a lump on my head :|
311: [22:18:39] <adrexia> :)
312: [22:18:55] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Hit it on something?
313: [22:19:01] <antmas> how do you pronounce Danae? ;ike 'Danny'?
314: [22:19:06] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: yeah
315: [22:19:19] <Ryan-Toast> 10/10 great job.
316: [22:19:33] <adrexia> I read it as dana
317: [22:19:50] <adrexia> oh ex natcoll too
318: [22:19:57] <antmas> Dan ay?
319: [22:19:58] <adrexia> natcoll is good quality
320: [22:20:00] <adrexia> :D
321: [22:20:20] * Danae has joined #silverstripe
322: [22:20:22] * antmas should wear a helmet when he cooks
323: [22:20:39] <adrexia> lol, now we can't talk about her. ;)
324: [22:20:48] <Ryan-Toast> Shh, she’s here now.
325: [22:20:54] <adrexia> haha
326: [22:20:57] <antmas> :O
327: [22:21:07] <Danae> oh bro what’s the big idea
328: [22:21:25] <Danae> also, greetings
329: [22:21:29] <antmas> tell her she needs to be on SSIRC so we can have her tell us about Ryan's old code when he leaves :P
330: [22:21:39] <Ryan-Toast> NO
331: [22:21:42] <Danae> haha
332: [22:21:49] <antmas> Danae: o/
333: [22:21:57] <Ryan-Toast> I’m afraid that would abe a breach of contract.
334: [22:22:03] <Ryan-Toast> All very hush hush, you see.
335: [22:22:29] <adrexia> lol
336: [22:22:50] <Stomach> Danae - give up on infinity? :D
337: [22:22:59] <adrexia> Also, I approve of your hobbies: http://www.developingdesign.co.nz/
338: [22:23:05] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: you will also need to inform her about gif Fridays
339: [22:23:11] <Danae> haha oh no my blog!
340: [22:23:19] <adrexia> :D
341: [22:23:26] <Danae> @Stomach in a sense, lol
342: [22:23:35] <Danae> how to irc dammit
343: [22:23:44] <Stomach> :P
344: [22:24:01] <Danae> it was do expressionengine forever or leave
345: [22:24:03] <Danae> so
346: [22:24:05] <Danae> yeah
347: [22:24:18] <adrexia> it auto tags people. You just need to speel their name right, and you're good to go
348: [22:24:25] <Danae> nice
349: [22:24:25] <Stomach> Danae you made the right choice :D
350: [22:24:35] <adrexia> <Danae> it was do expressionengine forever or leave
351: [22:24:36] <Danae> silverstripe for lyfe amirtie
352: [22:24:44] <adrexia> how did you find expression engine?
353: [22:24:46] <Danae> ah cool
354: [22:24:47] <adrexia> lols
355: [22:24:59] <Danae> it was client request
356: [22:25:01] <Danae> big bad client
357: [22:25:06] * adrexia nods
358: [22:25:23] <antmas> guis
359: [22:25:28] <adrexia> not good to work with?
360: [22:25:30] <antmas> there are new people in here
361: [22:25:31] <antmas> :O
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363: [22:25:51] <Danae> eh as bad as any larger company. EE is a horrid platform that should burn in hell
364: [22:25:56] <Danae> to put it mildly
365: [22:26:01] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: good.
366: [22:26:02] <adrexia> ahh, yep :D
367: [22:26:18] <adrexia> I've dealt with moving stuff off ex[ression engine before
368: [22:26:28] <adrexia> but not really looked at it much
369: [22:26:33] <adrexia> interface was niceenough
370: [22:26:39] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: they need an induction!
371: [22:27:18] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I’ll do that via nightmare prohjects :)
372: [22:27:19] <adrexia> antmas, isn't that what googling people and talking about their background and hobbies _is_ ?
373: [22:27:22] <Ryan-Toast> projects**
374: [22:27:36] <Stomach> yes, stalk the new IRC person
375: [22:27:41] <adrexia> yep :D
376: [22:27:47] * antmas stalks
377: [22:28:00] <antmas> annnnnnd I'm in linkedn
378: [22:28:01] <Danae> haha I’m lucky I have no shame
379: [22:28:26] <adrexia> lols :D
380: [22:30:36] <antmas> Danae: do you know anything about Sharepoint?
381: [22:30:40] <Stomach> hahaha
382: [22:30:45] <Danae> nah not really
383: [22:30:47] <antmas> *please don't quit*
384: [22:30:52] <antmas> DAMNIT
385: [22:30:56] <Danae> haha
386: [22:31:10] <Danae> i took your hopes and dashed them to pieces
387: [22:31:33] <antmas> someone will come in here one day and tell me the ways of sharepoint dev
388: [22:31:47] <Ryan-Toast> !seen simon_w
389: [22:31:54] <Ryan-Toast> ...
390: [22:32:02] <Ryan-Toast> Where the shit is zippy?
391: [22:33:17] <antmas> zippy aint on much these days
392: [22:34:36] <adrexia> antmas I'm sure Sharepoint has support groups?
393: [22:35:16] <adrexia> where you can discuss your experiences. Perhaps sitting in a circle
394: [22:35:53] <antmas> adrexia: probably, Tanger and I did go into the Sharepoint irc channel one day. Instantly felt like I was being watched.
395: [22:36:49] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: lol
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397: [22:39:30] * Colin[pi] has joined #silverstripe
398: [22:39:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
399: [22:39:56] <Colin[pi]> heya antant o/
400: [22:39:59] <Colin[pi]> XD
401: [22:40:30] <antmas> :|
402: [22:40:34] <Colin[pi]> :|
403: [22:40:43] <Colin[pi]> :| http://i.imgur.com/nCZoEXs.gif
404: [22:40:58] <antmas> best start to a Monday :D
405: [22:41:08] * mahfuz has joined #silverstripe
406: [22:41:14] <antmas> mahfuz: o/
407: [22:41:58] <antmas> question
408: [22:42:06] <Danae> my monday started with sour milk in my coffee
409: [22:42:11] <antmas> already answered
410: [22:42:12] <antmas> \o/
411: [22:42:25] <Colin[pi]> antmas: glad we could be of help
412: [22:42:33] <Colin[pi]> Danae: ick
413: [22:43:35] <Ryan-Toast> Never trust wekend milk.
414: [22:43:39] <antmas> actually, no
415: [22:43:58] <antmas> Images can be uploaded to /assets/carousel
416: [22:44:13] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: we go through it too fast around here
417: [22:44:19] <antmas> but they don't show up when selecting them for carousel items
418: [22:44:34] <antmas> that permissions? ^^^
419: [22:44:45] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I always buy the 1l botles, and it’s fine. But my boss always gets the 2l, and it goes off.
420: [22:44:50] <adrexia> ewww :-|
421: [22:45:04] <Colin[pi]> I get the 2L, sometimes 3L
422: [22:45:11] <Colin[pi]> never stays more than 4-5 days tops
423: [22:45:11] <Colin[pi]> :\
424: [22:45:21] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: did you setFolderName to “Uplaods/carousel”?
425: [22:45:28] <Ryan-Toast> Uploads**
426: [22:45:46] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: people here have their coffee and tea black.
427: [22:45:51] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: for what exactly? (this isn't BP btw)
428: [22:45:52] <Ryan-Toast> green tea etc
429: [22:45:54] <adrexia> that made me dry retch
430: [22:45:58] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: just in geenral
431: [22:45:59] <mahfuz> Good morning everyone
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433: [22:46:03] <Ryan-Toast> general.
434: [22:46:05] <mahfuz> antmas o/
435: [22:46:14] <Ryan-Toast> Should work fine like that./
436: [22:46:20] <antmas> hmm
437: [22:46:20] <Ryan-Toast> Is this a module that you’ve used?
438: [22:46:22] <antmas> lemme check
439: [22:47:18] <adrexia> antmas, I like its just custom code?
440: [22:47:25] <adrexia> *think
441: [22:47:37] <adrexia> most likely permissions problem
442: [22:48:15] <adrexia> (assuming this is the codebase I'm thinking off)
443: [22:48:15] <antmas> yeah I think it is adrexia
444: [22:48:35] <antmas> adrexia: it's the library site, which recently went to 3.1.12
445: [22:48:41] <adrexia> ahh yep
446: [22:48:53] <adrexia> that started life as a direct copy of your other sites codebase
447: [22:49:04] <adrexia> (someone asked for that)
448: [22:49:14] <antmas> yeah it did
449: [22:49:23] <antmas> hooray for that decision making
450: [22:49:25] <antmas> :|
451: [22:49:27] <adrexia> haha
452: [22:49:36] <Colin[pi]> "direct copy", always works out well...
453: [22:49:38] <adrexia> yeah at the time I was suspecious of that
454: [22:50:01] <adrexia> technical debt lineage!
455: [22:50:09] <antmas> 'so it seems you have document managment searching enabled on your library site according to your code base.... that will be $9187312938 for the upgrade'
456: [22:50:13] <antmas> everytime
457: [22:50:17] <adrexia> yep
458: [22:50:34] <adrexia> all of the complex features without any of the need for the features
459: [22:50:46] <adrexia> but... at least its not subsites?
460: [22:50:53] <Colin[pi]> AWESOME COSMIC POWER... "ittty bitty living space"
461: [22:50:55] <antmas> I'm slowly cutting the code bases apart, StW did a good job last time, now I just need to upgrade the corporate site to fit versions then will cull the fat
462: [22:51:43] <adrexia> nice :)
463: [22:52:11] <adrexia> I guess the library site was also design only and took like... 2 weeks total or soemthign
464: [22:52:12] <antmas> and yeah the carousel is custom code
465: [22:52:17] <adrexia> yeah
466: [22:52:21] <antmas> dataobject directly on the HomePage.php
467: [22:52:22] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
468: [22:52:39] <antmas> so no folder set, defaults to /uploads
469: [22:52:56] <adrexia> I swear the site is uglier than it used to be too?
470: [22:53:07] <antmas> the libr site?
471: [22:53:13] <adrexia> that horrible lime yellow
472: [22:53:15] <adrexia> yeah
473: [22:53:28] <adrexia> I rememeber it loooking nicer
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475: [22:54:12] <adrexia> it's pretty hard to read the white on the puke color
476: [22:54:20] <antmas> if it's the lib site, should be the same they just removed a page section
477: [22:54:23] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: what site’s this?
478: [22:54:35] <adrexia> http://www.tasmanlibraries.govt.nz/
479: [22:54:37] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: http://www.tasmanlibraries.govt.nz/
480: [22:55:21] <Ryan-Toast> antmas, adrexia: http://i.imgur.com/FSiZ160.gif
481: [22:55:27] <antmas> I wish they'd hurry up and greenlight a retheme
482: [22:55:37] <Colin[pi]> white on the puke color
483: [22:55:38] <Colin[pi]> lol
484: [22:55:45] <antmas> I call it babypoo
485: [22:55:53] <Colin[pi]> haaha
486: [22:56:01] <antmas> I think ss did that theme
487: [22:56:14] <Colin[pi]> http://www.tasmanlibraries.govt.nz/themes/babypoo
488: [22:56:16] <Colin[pi]> damn
489: [22:56:18] <Colin[pi]> ;p
490: [22:56:22] <adrexia> just need to make the yellow green or soemthign
491: [22:57:16] <adrexia> oh, it could be a mac moniter vs regular moniter thing
492: [22:57:22] <adrexia> everything looks nicer on macs
493: [22:57:47] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: except non-retina images on sites ;P
494: [22:57:59] <adrexia> buit here used to be featured items above the quicklinks
495: [22:58:04] <adrexia> Colin[pi], true
496: [22:58:08] <adrexia> *there
497: [22:58:15] <adrexia> http://web.archive.org/web/20121010235619/http://www.tasmanlibraries.govt.nz/
498: [22:58:30] <adrexia> ...and image quality
499: [22:58:42] <adrexia> the images currently in the slider look pretty poor quality
500: [22:59:01] <antmas> adrexia: welcome to my life
501: [22:59:15] <antmas> see they removed the featured items?
502: [22:59:15] <adrexia> or, specifically, the 'tumblebooks' image is horrible
503: [22:59:15] <adrexia> :D
504: [22:59:19] <adrexia> yep
505: [22:59:31] <adrexia> the featured itenms were certianly an ascetic improvement
506: [22:59:44] <antmas> mmm they're slowly morphing into relying on kotui (catalog system) to do all the work
507: [22:59:54] <adrexia> there;'s not just extra whitespace there
508: [23:00:01] <adrexia> ahh :)
509: [23:00:02] <antmas> so I asked them 'what's the point in the website then?'
510: [23:00:30] <antmas> haven't had a reply yet
511: [23:00:33] <antmas> :P
512: [23:00:54] <adrexia> I'd probably keep the website and use an api to get the data there
513: [23:01:13] <Colin[pi]> +1
514: [23:01:15] * Stomach quit (Quit: zzz)
515: [23:01:27] <antmas> I still find it easier to use that his monster http://nelsonpubliclibraries.co.nz/
516: [23:01:27] <Colin[pi]> antmas: so I asked them 'what's the point in the website then?'
517: [23:01:30] <adrexia> websites have more flexibility and tend to provide better user experience than 'catalogue systems'
518: [23:01:30] <Colin[pi]> lol dat truth
519: [23:02:03] <adrexia> ...its like Nelson has one design company that does all the nelson websites
520: [23:02:12] <antmas> adrexia: yeah that's what I plan on doing eventually
521: [23:02:24] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: might just be me but almost every system I've seen that a librarian likes has been "omg no, eeuw"
522: [23:02:33] <antmas> adrexia: well, the lib and nelson govt site are the same entity, like us
523: [23:02:34] <adrexia> white text on light coloured graphics is poor accessibility.
524: [23:02:35] <adrexia> :-/
525: [23:02:46] <adrexia> Colin[pi], agree
526: [23:02:48] <antmas> exactly
527: [23:02:57] <adrexia> librarians seem to like the complex
528: [23:03:11] <adrexia> ahh yep
529: [23:03:23] <adrexia> antmas - but there's also NMIT
530: [23:03:28] <antmas> it was done by one dude, in foundation
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532: [23:03:35] <adrexia> http://www.nmit.ac.nz/
533: [23:03:46] <adrexia> very similar designs
534: [23:03:53] <antmas> mmm could have been the same dude
535: [23:03:59] <adrexia> :D
536: [23:04:01] <antmas> wouldn't be suprised
537: [23:05:04] <antmas> funny thing is our new branding looks very similar to Nelson's :P
538: [23:05:07] <antmas> white/blue
539: [23:08:38] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
540: [23:08:40] <Ryan-Toast> Re-designing my personal site over the weekend. Forgot how bad I am at that biz.
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542: [23:11:21] <antmas> design is way too hard
543: [23:11:27] * simon_w|air has joined #silverstripe
544: [23:11:50] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I thought you were pretty good at it?
545: [23:12:10] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Designing?
546: [23:12:15] <Ryan-Toast> Naw, I’m average.
547: [23:12:21] <Ryan-Toast> And I hadte all my own designs.
548: [23:12:23] <antmas> frontend vs design
549: [23:12:29] <antmas> whole diff kettle
550: [23:12:44] <Ryan-Toast> I can critique, I cannot create.
551: [23:13:00] <Colin[pi]> I'm shitty at it
552: [23:13:15] <Colin[pi]> I used to be better
553: [23:13:19] <Colin[pi]> now I don't have the patience
554: [23:19:19] <antmas> I have 1 design looming I need to do this week
555: [23:19:35] <antmas> should be easy but it's not :(
556: [23:26:04] * newbwiththisshai quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
557: [23:26:18] <Danae> ew, design
558: [23:29:29] <simon_w|air> Design for Lynx and curl. Nothing else matters :p
559: [23:31:59] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
560: [23:33:15] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
561: [23:35:35] <Stomach> Danae your meetup profile is now a lie :(
562: [23:35:42] <Danae> uh oh
563: [23:35:48] <Danae> i have to update things
564: [23:36:00] <Danae> new job problems
565: [23:36:59] * gelignite quit (Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta)
566: [23:37:25] <Danae> this job makes me hungry for toast >:T
567: [23:37:41] <antmas> Danae: do you get free toast there?
568: [23:38:08] <Danae> Ryan-Toast: what’s the deal, do we get free toast or what?
569: [23:38:59] <Stomach> can you send us some toast?
570: [23:39:18] <antmas> Danae: if you don't, then quit. It's not worth it.
571: [23:39:29] <Danae> haha
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573: [23:40:05] <Ryan-Toast> Danae: No free toast. You get your bonus at the end of year in bread though.
574: [23:40:27] <Stomach> half a loaf
575: [23:40:28] <Danae> Ryan-Toast: Well who would complain about that
576: [23:41:06] <antmas> what KIND of bread though
577: [23:41:07] <Ryan-Toast> Danae: Three slices.
578: [23:41:09] <antmas> this is important
579: [23:41:15] <Danae> lawl
580: [23:42:38] <Stomach> if you choose white bread do they supply peanut butter?
581: [23:42:51] <Stomach> otherwise you probably want to go for a pizza base or something I guess
582: [23:43:05] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: woah, guy. We’re not made of money.
583: [23:43:19] <Stomach> we aren't allowed peanuts at work
584: [23:43:24] <Stomach> because we might kill one of our designers
585: [23:43:28] <antmas> what about a baguette?
586: [23:43:32] <antmas> wi?
587: [23:43:45] <Stomach> although I kind of want to epi her because it looks awesome
588: [23:43:56] <Stomach> TAKE THIS, BECCAS HEART
589: [23:44:05] * Stomach plunges huge needle into chest
590: [23:44:06] <antmas> idgi
591: [23:44:25] <Stomach> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epinephrine_autoinjector
592: [23:44:28] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Shall I sneak in some, so you can?
593: [23:45:13] <Stomach> yeah that sounds good
594: [23:46:29] <antmas> I wonder if you could freeze dry burger fuel
595: [23:46:50] <antmas> or just snap freeze it or something
596: [23:46:55] <antmas> and send it to me
597: [23:47:01] <antmas> can this be done?
598: [23:48:32] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: no.
599: [23:48:38] <Ryan-Toast> Nelson shall never recieve BF
600: [23:50:34] <antmas> :<
601: [23:50:48] <antmas> that's the only reason I cam to WDCNZ
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603: [23:58:51] <Fishmancer> hey guys

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