#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 8 May 2015

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1: [00:01:15] <antmas> I do wonder if that image is from MS or just this (what looks like) a fan site
2: [00:01:33] <adrexia> I've seen it before.
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4: [00:01:40] <adrexia> but it may have been there
5: [00:01:45] <adrexia> but umm
6: [00:01:48] <antmas> only saying as finding actual MS websites is a nightmare
7: [00:01:49] <adrexia> multiple syntax errors
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9: [00:01:58] <adrexia> I haven't seen cdata for years
10: [00:02:20] <antmas> lol where is the closing ]
11: [00:02:21] <antmas> ?
12: [00:02:37] <adrexia> and using typeof also dates it somewhat
13: [00:02:43] <antmas> cdata is like 99% of sharepoint
14: [00:02:48] <adrexia> yep - and the string ending
15: [00:03:00] <adrexia> and the ...there's an extra > in the top script tag
16: [00:03:03] <antmas> yeah that is pretty bad
17: [00:03:08] <adrexia> cdata is old school
18: [00:03:24] <antmas> what is it exactly?
19: [00:03:47] <adrexia> it, I beleive, was something you had to do in very old browsers
20: [00:03:49] <tyljb> Hi all. Been trying to make a copy of my development site. I duplicated the db and copied the sitetree and pointed the db to the new database, but when I load the site, I get a 404 error. Anyone know what step I’m missing?
21: [00:03:56] <adrexia> but it actually predates my js life
22: [00:04:05] <antmas> adrexia: ah looks like a parsing 'ignore this' block
23: [00:04:12] <adrexia> yeah, like that
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25: [00:04:55] <antmas> tyljb: built and flushed ?
26: [00:04:58] <tyljb> yup
27: [00:05:12] <adrexia> checked whats in the .htaccess ?
28: [00:05:17] <antmas> tyljb: can you get to the /admin panel?
29: [00:05:23] <tyljb> can’t get to that either
30: [00:05:40] <adrexia> often it's because the rewrite rules are wrong
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32: [00:05:58] <antmas> novaweb: o/
33: [00:06:21] <tyljb> the .htaccess contents are the same between the old and the new
34: [00:06:33] <tyljb> How do I check rewrite rules, I’m not familiar with that
35: [00:06:40] <antmas> tyljb: permissions?
36: [00:06:53] <novaweb> \o
37: [00:06:57] <tyljb> they look all the same to me
38: [00:07:10] <adrexia> tyljb try renaking it and see if you get the silverstripe installer?
39: [00:07:18] <adrexia> *renaming
40: [00:07:28] <adrexia> ...or delting, but renaming might be safer
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42: [00:12:31] <dospuntocero> hey guys
43: [00:12:33] <dospuntocero> quick question
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45: [00:12:48] <dospuntocero> how do you change the startup menu in the CMS?
46: [00:12:51] <dospuntocero> is it possible
47: [00:12:58] <adrexia> chnage it how?
48: [00:13:05] <antmas> dospuntocero: startup menu?
49: [00:13:07] <dospuntocero> for example instead of admin/pages ==> admin/bio
50: [00:13:16] <antmas> oh right
51: [00:13:20] <dospuntocero> i dont want to be redirected to pages
52: [00:13:22] <adrexia> oh, change the intiial item?
53: [00:13:30] <dospuntocero> actually im working in a sitetreeless site
54: [00:13:38] <dospuntocero> yes
55: [00:14:05] <antmas> dospuntocero: sitetreeless?
56: [00:14:08] <adrexia> AdminRootController:
57: [00:14:08] <adrexia> default_panel: 'Bio'
58: [00:14:12] * antmas mentally upvotes dospuntocero
59: [00:14:16] <adrexia> in your cofig yml
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61: [00:14:20] <adrexia> *config
62: [00:14:30] <dospuntocero> *testing*
63: [00:15:10] <dospuntocero> excellumbo!
64: [00:15:17] <dospuntocero> :D
65: [00:15:23] <adrexia> :)
66: [00:16:19] <dospuntocero> its a dj site that is focused in djs and their music. there is no need of pages. im controlling the urls with custom routes... bio/dj-name , song/song-name , etc
67: [00:16:46] <dospuntocero> http://proposals.god.cl/LiteCMS_-_Bios-20150507-211634.png
68: [00:16:52] <antmas> dospuntocero: live version up yet?
69: [00:16:56] <dospuntocero> not yet.
70: [00:17:39] <dospuntocero> but i did a nice logo animation for them
71: [00:17:40] <dospuntocero> http://codepen.io/anon/pen/BNNPjv
72: [00:17:42] <dospuntocero> :D
73: [00:18:07] <antmas> dospuntocero: nice work!
74: [00:18:13] <antmas> ry^^^
75: [00:19:42] <dospuntocero> have any of you tested the new blog module?
76: [00:20:12] <antmas> not yet, but am going to use it shortly with a rejig of an old 2.4 site
77: [00:20:22] <dospuntocero> i need to add news on this site, but not sure if the module is too much for this people...
78: [00:20:45] <dospuntocero> well... i will jump into it now then. i will let you know my experience in an hour or so.. hehe
79: [00:21:16] <antmas> :D
80: [00:23:07] <antmas> dospuntocero: some of the contributors to that are on today, so fire any questions at them :D - just be sure to do it before beer oclock :P
81: [00:23:30] <dospuntocero> haha... at what time?
82: [00:23:36] <dospuntocero> 9:32pm here
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84: [00:24:12] <antmas> it's 12.24pm here
85: [00:24:29] <antmas> beer oclock is about 3.30pm - 4.30pm :D
86: [00:24:44] <dospuntocero> hahahh
87: [00:24:59] <dospuntocero> firday already there?
88: [00:25:04] <dospuntocero> friday*
89: [00:25:09] <antmas> yup :D
90: [00:25:12] <dospuntocero> nice
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96: [00:31:29] <antmas> bloody window washers eh
97: [00:31:54] <spronk2> DID THEY GETCHA?
98: [00:32:05] <antmas> I've come across them in CHCH
99: [00:32:10] <antmas> some of them are CRAZY
100: [00:32:28] <spronk2> o?
101: [00:32:43] <spronk2> there are a few of them here now
102: [00:32:44] <spronk2> not as bad as aucks but still
103: [00:32:50] <antmas> just really angry when you try tell them to NOT wash your window
104: [00:32:54] <spronk2> :s
105: [00:33:13] <spronk2> i never knew the payment protocol
106: [00:33:19] <spronk2> how much do you pay them?
107: [00:33:21] <spronk2> is it like
108: [00:33:24] <spronk2> donations?
109: [00:33:54] <antmas> they often just shove their hand in the window and wait
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111: [00:34:36] <adrexia> <antmas> beer oclock is about 3.30pm - 4.30pm :D
112: [00:34:39] <adrexia> for the lucky ;)
113: [00:34:49] <adrexia> some people don't do it until 5
114: [00:34:54] <antmas> sometimes I'd see them smoking while doing it wondering 'is it THAT hard to feed your kids'?
115: [00:35:09] <antmas> adrexia: :P just being generic
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118: [00:37:11] <spronk2> ^^ antmas yeah..
119: [00:37:12] <spronk2> basically the window washing pays for their cigs.
120: [00:37:13] <spronk2> is cigs the term these days? what do smokers call their death sticks?
121: [00:37:19] <person> does anyone know if @ss23 was successful with his 2nd NFC chip?
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123: [00:37:28] <antmas> ciggies
124: [00:37:38] <antmas> is what I call them :P
125: [00:37:39] <ss23> person: I've got it in, yeah
126: [00:37:45] <ss23> It's technically not NFC though, just RFID
127: [00:37:55] <adrexia> antmas, yeah, ours is at 4. But that's not the norm at silverstripe HQ
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129: [00:37:58] <ss23> Haven't cloned my work cards yet though
130: [00:39:04] <antmas> adrexia: ours is 4.30pm but today I'm making it 4 because fuck my workload this week :P
131: [00:39:11] <adrexia> haha
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133: [00:46:05] <antmas> anyone recommend me a good IPA?
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139: [01:01:50] <tyljb> Dragoon, Anderson Valley, most are pretty good
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149: [01:28:28] <UncleCheese> new macbook takes some getting used to
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152: [01:34:51] <T8> @antamas Theres a good double IPA called the dominatrix
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154: [01:39:13] <antmas> T8: hmmm, will see if we can get those here in Nelson
155: [01:39:22] <antmas> UncleCheese: is this like the new new one?
156: [01:39:56] <UncleCheese> yeah, MBP
157: [01:40:13] <antmas> UncleCheese: what'd you have before?
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159: [01:41:00] <UncleCheese> well, I had a Macbook Air 2011, but it shit the bed, so I was using my SS laptop (15" MBP 2014, retina) for a lot of my freelance stuff
160: [01:41:14] <UncleCheese> and that couldn't go on, so I just decided to make a business purchase
161: [01:41:37] <antmas> did you get a good price?
162: [01:43:19] <antmas> tyljb: cheers, I'll look up those beers
163: [01:43:27] <antmas> as long as they're in NZ :P
164: [01:45:27] <antmas> UncleCheese: what spec ifs it is a better question?
165: [01:45:32] <antmas> -?*
166: [01:45:53] <UncleCheese> hmm
167: [01:45:54] <UncleCheese> let's see
168: [01:46:08] <UncleCheese> MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015)
169: [01:46:34] <UncleCheese> 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3
170: [01:46:49] <antmas> nice
171: [01:47:07] <antmas> can you get upspecc'd GPUs in them still?
172: [01:47:21] <antmas> is that still an option?
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177: [01:53:19] <antmas_> lol dat feeling when you restart your own machine instead of the vm
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179: [01:53:27] <antmas_> gg antmas
180: [01:53:43] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
181: [01:54:21] * antmas_ is now known as antmas
182: [01:54:57] <ss23> lol antmas
183: [01:55:53] <antmas> ss23: I tried real hard to hit that cancel button
184: [01:57:34] <antmas> ss23: found any good metal lately? I've exhausted my playlists
185: [01:57:41] <Ryan-Toast> Baby Metal.
186: [01:57:44] <simon_w|air> antmas, 13" MBPs don't have GPUs
187: [01:58:08] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: :|
188: [01:58:09] <antmas> NO
189: [01:58:12] <Ryan-Toast> YES
190: [01:58:14] <antmas> simon_w|air: do the 15s?
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193: [01:58:49] <simon_w|air> antmas, 2.5 GHz model does, 2.2 doesn't
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195: [01:59:57] <antmas> simon_w|air: are they discreet or somekind of 'built with the CPU' type dealio?
196: [02:00:47] <simon_w|air> antmas, ones that actually have a GPU are discreet. All others are just Intel Integrated
197: [02:01:00] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: dat vaguebook post.
198: [02:01:32] <antmas> simon_w|air: ah ok, what's the best one a MBP can have these days?
199: [02:02:19] <simon_w|air> GT 750 M (2GB GDDR5)
200: [02:02:36] <UncleCheese> what's a GPU?
201: [02:02:42] <antmas> suprised they haven't bumped to the 800 series yet
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203: [02:02:51] <antmas> UncleCheese: :P
204: [02:03:05] <dospuntocero> i quit on the new blog module. it refuses to install...
205: [02:03:06] <simon_w|air> antmas, probably will when the bump the CPUs
206: [02:04:11] <antmas> I was always kinda suprised Apple never tried an external GPU setup via thunderbolt
207: [02:04:53] <simon_w|air> People used to do that with the PCIe slots in the PowerBooks
208: [02:05:11] <ss23> antmas: There was some new babymetal
209: [02:05:12] <ss23> But uh
210: [02:05:21] <ss23> Been jamming the shit out of Animals as Leaders, though been doing that for a while
211: [02:05:29] <ss23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVSQnsuTs-g
212: [02:05:30] <ss23> so goodf
213: [02:05:32] <antmas> ss23: mmm AAL are good
214: [02:05:42] <ss23> idek how to make shit sound that good live
215: [02:06:17] <antmas> ss23: they're are just guitar gods
216: [02:06:59] <antmas> ss23: you ever try Russian Circles?
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221: [02:15:16] <T8> So I figured out my issue who ever was helping me
222: [02:15:22] <T8> but I still dont know how to solve it
223: [02:15:34] <T8> it seems my URL handlers are preventing my form from working correctly
224: [02:16:00] <T8> does anyone have any documentation on how to set up url handlers for forms on controllers that are using routes?
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226: [02:23:08] <ss23> antmas: Nope, link to song?
227: [02:23:18] <ss23> antmas: I've listened to a bunch of not metal lately I guess
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229: [02:23:24] <antmas> ss23: 1 sec
230: [02:24:07] <antmas> ss23: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma27diEPqB0
231: [02:24:52] <ss23> antmas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-FKM3eZTO8
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238: [02:43:27] <antons_> Hey, does anyone know the pricing for SilverStripe Platform? http://www.silverstripe.com/platform/
239: [02:43:57] <Stomach> http://www.silverstripe.com/platform/pricing/
240: [02:44:07] <Stomach> it depends on what you need / scale
241: [02:46:06] <simon_w|air> antons_, a lot more than it's worth
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243: [02:46:26] <simon_w|air> (you can tell, because they don't tell you up front)
244: [02:46:41] <antons_> Lol. Was hoping to avoid submitting my details. A bit annoying but we will see
245: [02:46:42] <UncleCheese> neither does Boeing
246: [02:47:32] <simon_w|air> But Boeing doesn't offer hosting
247: [02:50:43] <ss23> about a billing dollars, antmas
248: [02:50:51] <ss23> If you're asking about price, I'm going to go with "lol no"
249: [02:51:17] <ss23> (though I'm 100% sure our sales/marketing would tell me to say "Oh we have something for everyone! Talk to us and we'll discuss!", so you could do that, if you wanna)
250: [02:51:25] <ss23> inb4 im fired
251: [02:52:04] <Stomach> lol
252: [02:52:16] <Stomach> first time you've talked in days and you go and get yourself fired
253: [02:52:39] <antmas> ss23: DEP is my favourite band
254: [02:53:04] <ss23> o/
255: [02:53:08] <ss23> lol Stomach
256: [02:54:55] <spronk2> wut
257: [02:55:12] <antmas> ss23: about a billing dollars, antmas - I'm very much already aware of this ;)
258: [02:55:57] <antons_> yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if it was expensive, our organisation is already on cwp and we are just exploring other options on the side
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260: [02:56:06] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4747 (3 - 3e88e12 : Sam Minnée): The build passed.
261: [02:56:07] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/d3f5d491e653...3e88e1210d74
262: [02:56:07] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/61711766
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264: [02:56:22] <antmas> antons_: they pretty much are all expensive
265: [02:56:24] <antons_> ss23 - haha. billing dollars
266: [02:56:33] <ss23> Oh, that is super confusing
267: [02:56:36] <ss23> I thought antons_ was antmas
268: [02:56:41] <antmas> :P
269: [02:56:44] <ss23> That was a far too informal response given it wasn't antmas
270: [02:56:55] <antmas> ss23: lol I'm still a client you know
271: [02:56:58] <antmas> :P
272: [02:57:04] <antons_> my bad
273: [02:57:10] <ss23> :O
274: [02:57:21] <ss23> antmas: Yeah, but I've met you IRL right?
275: [02:57:26] <ss23> Or at least, we've talked long enough to be casual
276: [02:57:36] <antmas> ss23: yeah I visited with Colin[pi] :D
277: [02:57:56] <antmas> and I think adrexia and irogue too?
278: [02:58:00] <ss23> antons_: More seriously, if you're on CWP, then almost certainly in a good position to move if you want. Do the contact thing and find out :D
279: [02:58:04] <ss23> antmas: Yeah, I remember :D
280: [02:58:05] <antmas> someone else who was involved in a game
281: [02:58:15] <ss23> A game?
282: [02:58:24] <simon_w|air> antmas, "visited"
283: [02:58:26] <antmas> ss23: yeah some other dude who was involved in a video game
284: [02:58:34] <simon_w|air> In the biblical sense, right?
285: [02:58:34] <antmas> simon_w|air: ?
286: [02:58:38] <antmas> oh
287: [02:58:40] <antmas> yes :D
288: [02:59:10] <antmas> wait
289: [02:59:16] <antmas> adrexia: is naomi yes?
290: [02:59:23] <antons_> ss23 - wise advice. I'll do that
291: [02:59:23] <antmas> sorry for potential spelling*
292: [03:00:29] <adrexia> antmas, correct :)
293: [03:01:00] <adrexia> ss23 IK thought they were the same person too
294: [03:01:05] <ss23> lol
295: [03:01:10] <ss23> Naomi, or Nay Nay for short
296: [03:01:36] <spronk2> thats not short
297: [03:01:45] <antmas> lol
298: [03:01:46] <spronk2> bloody ss23
299: [03:02:18] <antmas> it's ok
300: [03:02:40] <antmas> I thought Tanger was Frank and wondered why he never replied to random questions about swipestripe
301: [03:02:43] <antmas> \o/
302: [03:02:45] <adrexia> ss23 umm no
303: [03:02:49] <spronk2> lul
304: [03:02:57] <ss23> lol
305: [03:03:39] <adrexia> antons_ you're ... otago polytech?
306: [03:04:53] <antons_> adrexia - yes thats right :)
307: [03:05:05] <antmas> we ALMOST met simon_w|air , but he snobbed us at burger fuel :P
308: [03:05:10] <adrexia> cwp is rather expensive, yeah
309: [03:05:16] <antmas> antons_: did you recently replace someone?
310: [03:05:26] <simon_w|air> antmas, well, Colin[pi] didn't hire Caitlin on the spot :p
311: [03:05:44] <antmas> simon_w|air: probably because you asked that BEFORE saying 'hello' lol
312: [03:06:00] <simon_w|air> antmas, I said hello on the twitters!
313: [03:06:16] <antmas> :P
314: [03:06:23] <antmas> so snobby
315: [03:06:52] <antmas> oh wait kingy was there too
316: [03:08:47] <simon_w|air> antmas, so crash on me having a romantic burgerfuel date in June? :p
317: [03:09:01] <simon_w|air> (4 weeks until burgerfuel :D)
318: [03:09:06] <antmas> lol
319: [03:09:10] <adrexia> "romantic" ... "burgerfuel"
320: [03:09:14] <spronk2> haha
321: [03:09:17] <spronk2> thats exactly what i was about to say, adrexia
322: [03:09:34] <simon_w|air> adrexia, first place I took her to in Wellington :p
323: [03:09:47] <simon_w|air> And first place she took me to in Sydney
324: [03:09:55] <simon_w|air> Cause so tasty
325: [03:10:09] <adrexia> reminds me of something I heardsome Wellignton first years say once is regards to subway. They were from somewhere rural, so subway *was* sort of what passed for romantic
326: [03:10:09] <adrexia> :P
327: [03:10:13] <Cheddam> 2 months in and I'm still so stoked that Burgerfuel is right downstairs
328: [03:10:13] <antmas> dat romance
329: [03:10:32] <spronk2> la hol
330: [03:10:32] <adrexia> * in regards
331: [03:10:35] <antmas> adrexia: LOL
332: [03:10:42] <Cheddam> that should be listed as a benefit of working at Silverstripe tbh
333: [03:10:46] <simon_w|air> Cheddam, I may have put on 20k from working next door to burgerfuel...
334: [03:11:24] <ss23> lol
335: [03:11:31] <adrexia> Cheddam, it's dangerous I think ;)
336: [03:11:37] <antmas> when I was there I was like 'omg doofers - WHAT IS THIS MADNESS I'M IN THE BIG SMOKE NOW'
337: [03:11:39] <Cheddam> simon_w|air oh dear xD thankfully I can't push my mass above 65kg for some reason so I'm swt
338: [03:11:41] <adrexia> its also across the road from Nandos
339: [03:11:54] <ss23> Cheddam: The reason is cause you eat almost nothing
340: [03:11:57] <antons_> antmas - nah ive been here a few years now
341: [03:12:01] <simon_w|air> Cheddam, I was just like that :p
342: [03:12:17] <Cheddam> ss23 dude I bought more from McDonalds than you at lunch
343: [03:12:49] <Cheddam> adrexia oh man I totally haven't been to Nandos here yet
344: [03:12:54] <spronk2> lol
345: [03:12:55] <spronk2> maccas?
346: [03:13:03] <spronk2> anyone tried that create your taste crap?
347: [03:13:11] <xyphoid> i hate reading this now that i don't work in the middle of a city
348: [03:13:22] <antmas> xyphoid: +1
349: [03:13:36] <adrexia> the chch Catalyst office is above a craft beer place
350: [03:13:46] <spronk2> pomeroys
351: [03:13:47] <antmas> they put that shit in the middle east and NOT Nelson?
352: [03:13:50] <adrexia> just join the borg ;)
353: [03:13:52] <antmas> THAT SCUM
354: [03:14:05] <spronk2> antmas now you know how we felt in CHCH for years
355: [03:14:28] <antmas> spronk2: dude we have like 15 maccas
356: [03:14:52] <spronk2> hmm
357: [03:14:54] <adrexia> antmas - Nelson doesn't seem to be able to support that stuff, for soem reason
358: [03:14:55] * spronk2 counts maccas in chch
359: [03:15:06] <adrexia> I think people there are just way too healthy
360: [03:15:20] <antmas> adrexia: yeah but also the munchies
361: [03:15:25] * xyphoid is in merivale which has ... mcdonalds and fish and chips and pubs with an average visitor age of about 62
362: [03:15:25] <adrexia> haha true
363: [03:15:28] <antmas> only thing keeping BK alive
364: [03:15:45] <xyphoid> if you want sunday roast for lunch you're SORTED
365: [03:15:57] <spronk2> airport, riccarton, hornby, lincoln, moorhouse, papanui, linwood for stores... riccarton, northlands, the palms for malls
366: [03:15:57] <adrexia> :D
367: [03:16:03] <spronk2> thats not that many really
368: [03:16:53] <spronk2> oh and south city
369: [03:16:54] <antmas> xyphoid: try WORKING in a place where the average age is 54
370: [03:16:57] <antmas> :|
371: [03:17:36] <simon_w|air> Within lunchtime walking distance, we have a single Subway
372: [03:18:30] <spronk2> if you count 20 minutes as walking distance, i have.. burger fuel, pepes mexican grill, pizza hut, dominos, roast and roll, noodle canteen, sushiya, subway, sushi time
373: [03:18:45] <simon_w|air> I still only have Sunway
374: [03:18:48] <spronk2> pepes mexican grill ftw
375: [03:18:54] <spronk2> damn
376: [03:18:57] <spronk2> subway isnt tooooo bad though
377: [03:19:03] <spronk2> though, they could learn a lot from pita pit
378: [03:19:11] <antmas> I have maccas, subway, bk various asian places
379: [03:19:27] <simon_w|air> They don't even let you order from your phone
380: [03:19:33] <spronk2> subway?
381: [03:19:35] <spronk2> in aus?
382: [03:19:38] <simon_w|air> Yeah
383: [03:19:41] <spronk2> wwwtf
384: [03:19:42] <antmas> but fastfood in richmond is like fish and chips in Chad
385: [03:19:49] <antmas> PROBABLY not safe
386: [03:19:50] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: aus = backwards in every way
387: [03:19:52] <adrexia> 20 minutes walking... I've got basically all of Wellington
388: [03:19:54] <spronk2> yeah
389: [03:19:58] <spronk2> do you guys have eftpos yet?
390: [03:20:06] <simon_w|air> Sometimes?
391: [03:20:06] <spronk2> or do you still pass around wads of paper
392: [03:20:16] <antmas> spronk2: yeah but they pronounce it EFT POSST
393: [03:20:18] <spronk2> Ridiculous.
394: [03:20:19] <simon_w|air> Most places around here don't
395: [03:20:26] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: leading news atm here is "Climate change a UN-led ruse, says Tony Abbott's business adviser Maurice Newman"
396: [03:20:35] <Colin[pi]> ^ we're doomed
397: [03:20:36] * spronk2 loltasms
398: [03:21:05] <antmas> hey at least that is important
399: [03:21:11] <Colin[pi]> "Climate change is a hoax led by the United Nations so that it can end democracy and impose authoritarian rule, according to Prime Minister Tony Abbott's chief business adviser."
400: [03:21:14] <spronk2> ubiquitous eftpos = awesome
401: [03:21:15] <Colin[pi]> WAKE UP SHEEPLE
402: [03:21:15] <antmas> for weeks here it was about pony tail pulling
403: [03:21:24] <spronk2> the invasion of eftpos by credit card companies = super shit
404: [03:21:55] <antmas> spronk2: the introduction of insert chips was the worst
405: [03:22:05] <antmas> fuckign shit ALWAYS fucks up
406: [03:22:18] <spronk2> ughhh
407: [03:22:18] <spronk2> yeah
408: [03:22:20] <spronk2> seems to be harsher on the card as well
409: [03:22:24] <antmas> insert-swipe-insert-swipe-insert-decline ffffffffffffff
410: [03:22:26] <spronk2> my 1yo card is peeling like hell
411: [03:22:41] <antmas> ASB ones are the worst
412: [03:22:42] <spronk2> then there's this fucking compulsory paypasswaveswipe bullshit
413: [03:23:00] <antmas> that is awesome in drivethrough though
414: [03:23:26] <simon_w|air> Oh, Australia finally made PINs compulsory late last year
415: [03:23:34] <spronk2> eh i dno
416: [03:23:39] <spronk2> i dont mind entering pin
417: [03:23:46] <simon_w|air> Instead of signatures
418: [03:23:51] <antmas> can you set limit on paywave?
419: [03:24:03] <spronk2> apparently with.. ASB? you can now adjust it
420: [03:24:57] <antmas> hmmm
421: [03:25:25] <antmas> I also thought they disallowed alcohol and ciggies on paywave
422: [03:25:28] <antmas> I guess not
423: [03:26:34] <antmas> http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/68383920/the-6-worst-flavour-combinations-weve-ever-seen-here-in-nz
424: [03:26:37] <antmas> I liked crispy m&ms
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426: [03:27:00] <Colin[pi]> antmas: so did I :\
427: [03:27:30] <antmas> Diet Coke and Lemon tasted like dishwashing liquid
428: [03:27:47] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah but don't you also like Dr Pepper?
429: [03:27:58] <antmas> Colin[pi]: don't you tease that now
430: [03:28:02] <Colin[pi]> Dr Pepper tastes like coke mixed with cough syrup :P
431: [03:28:03] <spronk2> ughhhh 9am hockey game on sunday wtff
432: [03:28:03] <antmas> I do like Dr Pepper
433: [03:28:15] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I love cough syrup :D
434: [03:28:23] <Colin[pi]> lol, ok, carry on
435: [03:28:24] <Colin[pi]> :D
436: [03:28:41] <spronk2> dr pepper is foul
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438: [03:28:50] <spronk2> does anyone remember dirty dog?
439: [03:29:07] <adrexia> like... sunglasseS?
440: [03:29:07] <antmas> spronk2: I remember the glasses?
441: [03:29:18] <spronk2> nah the drinks
442: [03:29:32] <spronk2> http://thestaticvoid.net/guarana/bottles/dd_lemonade.gif
443: [03:29:51] <spronk2> and http://thestaticvoid.net/guarana/bottles/desert_dust.gif
444: [03:30:14] <antmas> spronk2: omg yes I do remember
445: [03:30:21] <spronk2> lemonade with cactus extract = super tasty
446: [03:30:28] <antmas> lol
447: [03:30:29] <antmas> wtf
448: [03:30:31] <spronk2> and creaming soda with gaurana = ftw
449: [03:30:32] <Colin[pi]> WAT
450: [03:30:48] <antmas> what was that cola that looked like beer/bourbon
451: [03:30:56] <antmas> it had a blue label
452: [03:30:59] <spronk2> royal crown?
453: [03:31:03] <antmas> that's it
454: [03:31:17] <antmas> no wait
455: [03:31:18] <antmas> not that one
456: [03:31:26] <spronk2> not royal crown draft?
457: [03:31:44] <spronk2> http://www.colawp.com/database/image.php?cola_id=375
458: [03:31:45] <antmas> hmmm
459: [03:31:52] <antmas> ah yes
460: [03:31:53] <antmas> that one
461: [03:31:55] <adrexia> I loved that
462: [03:32:02] <spronk2> still around
463: [03:32:09] <spronk2> i prefer phoenix cola
464: [03:32:13] <adrexia> royal crown helped me write all my university essay's
465: [03:32:20] <adrexia> and other assignments
466: [03:32:25] <antmas> lol I remember being too scared to buy that at the dairy thinking it was actually alcoholic
467: [03:32:34] <spronk2> hahaha yes
468: [03:32:35] <adrexia> it had a lot of caffiene
469: [03:32:46] <antmas> phoenix is nice
470: [03:33:00] <Colin[pi]> haha it does look a bit like a beer
471: [03:33:02] <adrexia> apparently it's a budget brand in the US
472: [03:33:14] <adrexia> so the draft version only really took off in NZ
473: [03:33:21] <spronk2> no soft drink, however, compares to Mountain Dew.
474: [03:33:24] <spronk2> that shit is radioactive
475: [03:33:37] <spronk2> deliciously radioactive.
476: [03:33:46] <Colin[pi]> does mountain dew have caffeine in it in NZ?
477: [03:33:49] <spronk2> mhm
478: [03:34:00] <Colin[pi]> I think it may have here now too, but for the longest time it didnt
479: [03:34:12] <antmas> hated mountain dew
480: [03:34:50] <spronk2> how can you like dr pepper
481: [03:34:53] <spronk2> but hate mountain dew
482: [03:34:58] <spronk2> you're sick, antmas, sick!
483: [03:35:10] <antmas> I remember when coke did that big push of '1 free 600ml' under the cap of coke bottles
484: [03:35:13] * Colin[pi] kinda likes mountain dew
485: [03:35:17] <Colin[pi]> but don't have it often
486: [03:35:23] <spronk2> its a guilty pleasure
487: [03:35:23] <antmas> was so easy to scam :P
488: [03:35:57] <spronk2> what i can't understand is how lift plus is still around
489: [03:36:03] <Colin[pi]> antmas: that's naughty, how dare you defraud a multibillion dollar international conglomerate?
490: [03:36:21] <antmas> spronk2: prefer that to V :D
491: [03:36:25] <spronk2> no way
492: [03:36:27] <spronk2> you're crazy
493: [03:36:31] <spronk2> lift plus is disgusting
494: [03:36:35] <antmas> apart from v black
495: [03:36:38] <antmas> that one is awesome
496: [03:36:40] <Colin[pi]> dafuq is lift plus
497: [03:36:54] <spronk2> its lift, which is already kinda shit
498: [03:36:55] <spronk2> with
499: [03:36:55] <antmas> I love Lift though
500: [03:37:00] <spronk2> more disgusting in it
501: [03:37:03] <Colin[pi]> we have lift but not lift+ afaik
502: [03:37:13] <antmas> Schweppes sparkling duet is my jam though
503: [03:37:15] <Colin[pi]> "The drink holds a 20% value market share in New Zealand."
504: [03:37:16] <Colin[pi]> wow
505: [03:37:19] <spronk2> I KNOW
506: [03:38:05] <spronk2> though whats more disturbing is how popular MOTHER, Rockstar and Demon are
507: [03:38:07] <antmas> I did once drink 6 glass v bottles in a row when I was like 13
508: [03:38:11] <Colin[pi]> do you guys get this stuff over there? http://www.trublubev.com.au/cms_images/56_31-01-2012_4087.png
509: [03:38:29] * spronk2 hasn't seen that
510: [03:38:30] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol no that looks bad
511: [03:38:36] <Colin[pi]> I call it "burp juice"
512: [03:38:37] <spronk2> antmas i remember when V used to have the 'max 3.5 bottles daily' on the back of it
513: [03:38:48] <spronk2> and now it's like
514: [03:38:48] <spronk2> 1
515: [03:38:48] <Colin[pi]> it has like twice the carbonation of other drinks lol
516: [03:38:53] <spronk2> lol
517: [03:38:55] <antmas> spronk2: lol I could SEE sound that day
518: [03:39:04] <Colin[pi]> lol
519: [03:39:10] <antmas> Colin[pi]: it looks like it would actually smell bad
520: [03:39:22] <Colin[pi]> antmas: tastes ok, but man, the bubles
521: [03:39:24] <Colin[pi]> *bubbles
522: [03:39:47] <antmas> can't drink red bull any more
523: [03:40:00] <antmas> tainted by heavy drinking
524: [03:40:44] <antmas> spronk2: you ever try that Hemp energy drink?
525: [03:41:04] <antmas> http://www.bcenergy.co.nz/images/prodmerch_hemp.jpg
526: [03:44:29] <antmas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aw1WnNVcYw
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531: [03:53:17] <antmas> spronk2: lol
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533: [03:54:18] <antmas> BP is like 20m away
534: [03:54:19] <antmas> ...
535: [03:54:28] <antmas> so tempted
536: [03:54:48] <spronk2> DOOO IIITTTTT
537: [03:54:49] <spronk2> i did
538: [03:54:52] <spronk2> shop was 5min away
539: [03:54:56] <spronk2> VVV VVV
540: [03:54:57] <spronk2> done
541: [03:58:35] <UncleCheese> tough to type on this thing
542: [03:58:48] <antmas> jeez, Labour got pwned in the UK
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544: [03:59:48] <Colin[pi]> #rekt
545: [04:00:35] <Colin[pi]> antmas: jesus, -32 seats
546: [04:00:57] <antmas> Colin[pi]: mm pretty bad
547: [04:01:57] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: what thing?
548: [04:02:00] <Colin[pi]> new lappy?
549: [04:02:22] <UncleCheese> trampoline
550: [04:02:25] <antmas> Colin[pi]: new MBP
551: [04:02:37] <UncleCheese> yes, MBP
552: [04:02:37] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: lol
553: [04:02:40] <UncleCheese> new keyboard
554: [04:02:43] <UncleCheese> kinda weird
555: [04:02:55] <UncleCheese> the haptic feedback is really bizarre
556: [04:02:59] <antmas> UncleCheese: did you say trampoline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpwgXCwMNQ
557: [04:03:20] <UncleCheese> it's very odd that you can set the tightness of your mouse in System Preferences
558: [04:03:42] <antmas> tightness?
559: [04:03:57] <Colin[pi]> antmas: for your pleasure
560: [04:04:04] <antmas> Colin[pi]: :P
561: [04:05:01] <antmas> wait
562: [04:05:13] <antmas> dafuq would you want haptic feedback on a keyboard?
563: [04:05:25] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: sex reasons
564: [04:05:28] <Colin[pi]> ^
565: [04:05:33] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: ofc
566: [04:06:06] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese might be giving lessons of a different sort soon *wink*
567: [04:06:06] <antmas> that's why they put the touch pad on the underside of the PS4 controller
568: [04:06:11] <antmas> PSP*
569: [04:06:14] <antmas> it all makes sense
570: [04:06:31] <UncleCheese> it's weird.. you're not really clicking
571: [04:06:34] <spronk2> oi
572: [04:06:35] <spronk2> motherfuckers
573: [04:06:47] <spronk2> whats the shit for push notification libs these days>
574: [04:06:55] <antmas> UncleCheese: are you... are you slapping?
575: [04:07:38] <UncleCheese> i set it as firm as it goes.. still a little too trigger happy for me
576: [04:07:49] <antmas> :|
577: [04:07:52] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese set it to "rock hard"
578: [04:08:04] <UncleCheese> i think all the Git clients should implment force click to do a force push
579: [04:11:33] <antmas> UncleCheese: is it like in place of a mechanical keyboard type setup?
580: [04:11:38] <antmas> the haptic I mean
581: [04:12:10] <UncleCheese> yeah
582: [04:12:16] <UncleCheese> no, the keyboard isn't haptic
583: [04:12:38] <UncleCheese> it's just a new mechanical thing underneath
584: [04:12:41] <UncleCheese> and it feels kinda weird
585: [04:12:52] <spronk2> macbook or macbook pro, UC?
586: [04:13:01] <antmas> oh right
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593: [04:44:13] <Michael12345> hi, is there a way to install without using the SS installer ? I have adjusted the settings in /mysite/_config.php .. can I just dev/build now to install the site ? it keep redirecting me to the installer ..
594: [04:44:55] <Michael12345> The problem is, my php.ini file at www/ is being detected but the timezone settings are not !
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597: [04:57:42] <simon_w|air> Michael12345, put php.ini in framework/
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600: [05:04:05] <T8> wtf
601: [05:04:08] <T8> whats wrong with new HiddenField('Link')->setValue('testing');
602: [05:05:52] <simon_w|air> T8, need to wrap the constructor in parentheses
603: [05:06:02] <simon_w|air> (new HiddenField('Link'))->setValue('testing')
604: [05:07:12] <Stomach> or HiddenField::create('Link')->setValue('testing')
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613: [05:24:25] <Michael12345> simon_w|air: :) did the trick .. ty
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650: [08:50:01] <kinglozzer> With Cron jobs, can you just append query strings exactly like you do when running via CLI? e.g. * * * * * /path/to/sake dev/tasks/SomeTask param=foo
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652: [08:56:53] <wmk> kinglozzer, yup
653: [08:56:57] <elgabbu> when using the filter function how can I put a not equal to (WHERE x != y )
654: [08:57:20] <kinglozzer> elgabbu: ->exclude('X', 'y')
655: [08:57:29] <elgabbu> thanks
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657: [09:00:29] <kinglozzer> Or I think you can do ->filter('X:not', 'Y')
658: [09:03:02] <elgabbu> the exclude doesn't seem to work ... gonna try this other option :)
659: [09:05:34] <elgabbu> kinglozzer X:not worked
660: [09:05:36] <elgabbu> thanks again
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662: [09:08:22] <swaiba> kinglozzer - careful
663: [09:08:35] <swaiba> ->filter('X:not', 'Y') works, but it depreciated
664: [09:08:47] <kinglozzer> swaiba: it is? D:
665: [09:09:12] <swaiba> info I recieved from this very IRC
666: [09:09:15] <elgabbu> oh swaiba so what is the proper way?
667: [09:09:28] <swaiba> ->exclude('X', 'y') as lozzer said first time
668: [09:09:55] <kinglozzer> swaiba: I can't find any deprecation notices for it
669: [09:10:28] <elgabbu> hmm didn't work for me is it possible to use it like ->filters( array(conditions))->exclude(X, Y);
670: [09:10:55] <kinglozzer> elgabbu: Can you paste your code?
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672: [09:11:02] <kinglozzer> That should be fine
673: [09:11:20] <swaiba> C:\xampp\htdocs\bl311\framework\search\filters\NegationFilter.php
674: [09:11:40] <swaiba> opps - now you know I'm on windows :)
675: [09:11:55] <kinglozzer> swaiba: Ah, that's deprecated but :not itself isn't
676: [09:11:55] <elgabbu> i think i know what i did wrong 1 sec
677: [09:12:24] <swaiba> facepalm - Phywhatever convinced me on this a week or so back
678: [09:14:01] <elgabbu> works thanks
679: [09:17:34] <kinglozzer> I submitted a proposal to ADD a use of eval() to core yesterday
680: [09:17:37] * kinglozzer feels so dirty
681: [09:19:18] <swaiba> kinglozzer bad boy :D
682: [09:19:28] <swaiba> hope you got some globals and repeated code in too
683: [09:20:29] <kinglozzer> Heh, I tried
684: [09:20:30] <kinglozzer> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-Object.html#190-274
685: [09:20:35] <kinglozzer> Look at all that horrible code :(
686: [09:20:44] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/kinglozzer/sapphire/commit/af18c0b99f9b408fd8e42672b92878603fb9312a
687: [09:20:57] <kinglozzer> Horrible regex, evil eval, but still, so much less code :P
688: [09:21:15] <Stomach> hmmm - we have someone hammering our server looking for uploadify.swf
689: [09:21:37] <Stomach> good thing thats not there anymore I guess
690: [09:24:40] <swaiba> less code isn't always better than readable IMHO
691: [09:25:03] <swaiba> but I'm not jeleaous of working through that bunch of parsing
692: [09:33:12] <kinglozzer> swaiba: I did a more legit solution too https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/4162
693: [09:33:24] <kinglozzer> But it was such a pain to work through I just wanted rid of it :P
694: [09:43:46] <swaiba> I'm not suprised
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710: [11:03:20] <Pyiizilk> I've got 98.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 problems, but using float for currency isn't 1.
711: [11:03:55] * Pyiizilk says, while casting (float)$currency
712: [11:03:59] <Pyiizilk> xD
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715: [11:09:55] <elgabbu> what is the best way to determine if the value of a dataobject has changed and obtain the previous value if it has
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717: [11:11:32] <elgabbu> for example say ObjectA has a field Name ... when saving the object i want to know if the value of Name has changed and if so what was the previous Name value
718: [11:11:51] <elgabbu> maybe onBeforeWrite and use the isChanged method?
719: [11:16:26] <swaiba> elgabbu yep isChanged if perfect
720: [11:16:55] <swaiba> then getChangedFields(true) will return the array with all the detail of the changes - so you can watch for a specfic item only to be changed
721: [11:17:25] <elgabbu> ok i ll try
722: [11:18:57] <elgabbu> looks good and can also use it in afterWrite :)
723: [11:19:55] <swaiba> yeah I think it works in both, but depending on what you are doing onbefore is best
724: [11:20:11] <swaiba> AFAIK it call onbefore write once, but can call onafterwrite twice
725: [11:20:23] <swaiba> please don't ask me why
726: [11:24:18] <elgabbu> hehe ok :)
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728: [11:29:01] <huberd> any idea why enum changes from >default 3< to >default '3'< on every dev/build if I use numbers, like http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/554c9d58a205b ?
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730: [11:34:26] <Mike123> hey guys, i have some problem... i have news module where user can filter or change dipslay type of the news like: news / [other | all] / [block | list] but i didnt thought about if i click on the news link i will be redirected to news/some-news-title , but it isnt redirecting tto news itself because it thinks that this url param must be filter param....
731: [11:45:55] <UncleCheese> Mike123 can you provide an example url?
732: [11:49:46] <Pyiizilk> huberd: just a detection thing. Nothing major.
733: [11:50:12] <Mike123> news/other - list all news with 'other' filter, news/other/list - shows other news with different html elements
734: [11:51:04] <Pyiizilk> Mike123: could you list some example urls and their intended destinations in a paste or something
735: [11:51:48] <Pyiizilk> it seems like you've a bit of confusion on the use cases between some of these thigns
736: [11:51:59] <Pyiizilk> url 'params' and GET parameters
737: [11:52:16] <Pyiizilk> filters should probably be done using GET parameters
738: [11:52:32] <Pyiizilk> URL params to be used to access articles.
739: [11:52:57] <Pyiizilk> IMO, 'best practice' (although I muchly hate that term)
740: [11:53:14] <Pyiizilk> this way you won't run into the issue your'e having.
741: [11:54:05] <Pyiizilk> the other way to get around it is to have an intermediary param. eg news (lists all news), news/article (read article), news/filter/other (filter news) - but this way you can't have an article named 'filter'
742: [11:54:09] <Pyiizilk> it's not the best.
743: [11:54:22] <Pyiizilk> and you have to fiddle around getting your routes in order.
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745: [11:56:59] <Mike123> http://codepaste.net/2gcpwd
746: [11:58:45] <wmk> Pyiizilk, yup, get all url params sorted AND sexy is quite hard
747: [12:01:36] <Pyiizilk> wmk: yes and no.
748: [12:01:42] <Pyiizilk> depnds on case
749: [12:02:34] <Pyiizilk> Mike123: yeah, use GET query params (?filter=other) instead of SS's URL params.
750: [12:02:48] <Pyiizilk> It makes more sense, and is what they're designed for.
751: [12:03:16] <Pyiizilk> ?filter=other&view=block
752: [12:03:27] <Pyiizilk> eg ^
753: [12:04:24] <wmk> also a possibility
754: [12:04:38] <wmk> zilk?
755: [12:04:54] <Pyiizilk> captcha answer.
756: [12:05:00] <Mike123> Pyiizilk thanks
757: [12:05:00] <Pyiizilk> iizil
758: [12:05:39] <Pyiizilk> Mike123: $this->request->get('filter') & $this->request->get('view') - from within controller.
759: [12:05:56] <Pyiizilk> is the correct way to get that stuff, incase your'e unaware (it's a common question)
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761: [12:07:01] <wmk> Pyiizilk, sounds like that terrorist group
762: [12:09:40] <Mike123> well i'm not sure if it is correct , and how should they we reached other way ?
763: [12:11:33] <wmk> Mike123, Pyiizilk means it's better to use /news/?filter=foo&list=block instead of /news/foo/block
764: [12:12:03] <wmk> well, filter param could be an own URL of it's own
765: [12:12:12] <Mike123> hmmm
766: [12:12:17] <wmk> but view (list / block) is the same content
767: [12:12:26] <wmk> so not good for SEO
768: [12:12:34] <Pyiizilk> and that it's better to use $this->request->get('filter') instead of $_GET['filter']
769: [12:12:39] <wmk> but pretty much a matter of taste
770: [12:12:43] <wmk> Pyiizilk, absolutely
771: [12:13:02] <wmk> cause $this->request->get() does some magic for you and your security
772: [12:13:35] <wmk> Pyiizilk, heard that W*******p had a xss vulerability in the <drumroll>default theme</drumroll>
773: [12:14:12] <Pyiizilk> lulz
774: [12:14:22] <Pyiizilk> surprises 0
775: [12:14:33] <Pyiizilk> that's what you get when you PHP logic in your views.
776: [12:16:12] <wmk> and default theme got reinstalled with an update when you removed it before
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789: [13:32:28] <swaiba> anyone used something to parse behat features, by their tags, into a summary document of some kind?
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791: [13:40:00] <Pyiizilk> behat has tags?
792: [13:40:05] <Pyiizilk> you mean gherkin?
793: [13:40:57] <Pyiizilk> http://docs.behat.org/en/latest/guides/1.gherkin.html ?
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800: [14:11:01] <swaiba> Pyiizilk well yeah, but I think "behat" is an ok way to describe it - like as per features on behat.org
801: [14:11:33] <Pyiizilk> Yeah I get what you mean, I am not aware of any 'tags' that go with it though.
802: [14:11:43] <swaiba> I'm thinking to just use the folder stucture and read the feature / scenario descriptions into a structure
803: [14:11:54] <swaiba> check behat.org it lists tags as part fo the syntax
804: [14:12:03] <Pyiizilk> I guess you mean the gherkin keywords 'synopsis', 'given', etc?
805: [14:12:10] <swaiba> after directories, use the tags to cross refernce and link
806: [14:12:29] <Pyiizilk> Yeah, that's gherkin
807: [14:12:37] <swaiba> then provide a link through to the test cases as per given, where, then, but, etc
808: [14:13:09] <swaiba> based on "kukes" as the amercians would say
809: [14:14:03] <Pyiizilk> https://github.com/cucumber/cucumber/wiki/Gherkin
810: [14:14:11] <Pyiizilk> https://cucumber.io/
811: [14:14:23] <Pyiizilk> I dunno who did it first, but logic seems to point to cucumber
812: [14:14:52] <Pyiizilk> Cucumber's plain text DSL (Gherkin) somehow came out from the Agile community, mostly based on distillations made by Dan North, Chris Matts, Liz Keogh, David Chelimskyand dozens of people on the RSpec and Cucumber mailing lists. And Aslak.
813: [14:15:02] <wmk> WTF: [Notice] Use of undefined constant CMS_DIR - assumed 'CMS_DIR'
814: [14:15:15] <swaiba> lol wmk agreed wtf
815: [14:15:25] <wmk> but - why????
816: [14:15:45] <swaiba> I can only sympathise, not answer
817: [14:16:11] <Pyiizilk> Also swaiba, they yanks would be well wrong (surprise). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gherkin Gherkin refers to a specific type of small fruit. Gherkins are not to be confused with a cucumber.
818: [14:16:13] <swaiba> Pyiizilk - i think we agree on what a behat feature is... so any idea on it being used to then generate a product features ducoumnt as described
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820: [14:16:33] <Pyiizilk> although, most pickled things are usually pickled cucumbers these days.
821: [14:16:36] * Pyiizilk shrugs
822: [14:16:37] <Pyiizilk> idk
823: [14:16:39] <catcher> lol
824: [14:16:45] <catcher> what a great line to join to.
825: [14:16:47] <swaiba> wmk - one thought would be " white space "?
826: [14:17:06] <wmk> swaiba, seems some git branch / merging removed cms/_config.php
827: [14:17:07] <Pyiizilk> swaiba: look at the behat parser?
828: [14:17:14] <wmk> was in repo before (2.4)
829: [14:17:15] <swaiba> catcher - Pyiizilk is defo never boring :)
830: [14:17:25] <catcher> I'd expect nothing less!
831: [14:17:26] <Pyiizilk> it parses gherkin and makes skeleton code afaik
832: [14:19:58] <Pyiizilk> The shit you learn err'e day.
833: [14:26:00] <Pyiizilk> wmk: any ideas? http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/upgrading-silverstripe/show/101690
834: [14:26:48] <wmk> Pyiizilk, wtf?
835: [14:27:02] * Pyiizilk shrugs
836: [14:27:05] <kinglozzer> O.o that's a nice one
837: [14:27:07] <Pyiizilk> you'll have to ask Mario
838: [14:27:33] <wmk> why does this error msg scream to me?
839: [14:28:46] <wmk> some xml error?
840: [14:29:02] <fumakemesad> awkward
841: [14:29:30] <wmk> Pyiizilk, the url should be urlencoded?
842: [14:29:55] <Pyiizilk> idk
843: [14:30:32] <wmk> ARGH.....
844: [14:30:37] <wmk> Pyiizilk, look at the URL
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846: [14:31:41] <bobface> Hi guys, anyone around? I've got a big site and I'm putting in another Require::javascript() call in Page.php, but it won't include it.. The path is all correct etc. I tried flushing, dev build... Any ideas?
847: [14:32:05] <Pyiizilk> Path is not correct.
848: [14:32:18] <bobface> Requirements:: of course. It's right alongside other requirements in the same file
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850: [14:32:51] <wmk> bobface, is something cached?
851: [14:33:06] <bobface> yeah there's a whole bunch of caching going on that i don't know much bout
852: [14:33:25] <bobface> when I edit an Include, i just flush and its fine
853: [14:33:31] <bobface> but something fishy going on with the page.php requirements? hmm
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855: [14:34:06] <wmk> well, if you just added the requirements somewhere and don't flush the cache, your server will still deliver the old page (without requirement)
856: [14:34:15] <wmk> somehow it detects changes in template
857: [14:34:25] <wmk> btw: how to flush partial cache globally?
858: [14:34:47] <bobface> hmm ok i see makes sense
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860: [14:38:07] <bobface> maybe i create silverstripe-cache folder in root, then get rid of it, see if it triggers cache update? Sorry have not done any caching stuff in SS before
861: [14:38:54] <swaiba> bobface creating cache in root folder is always good idea
862: [14:39:20] <swaiba> but for this you'll also need to check things like combined files in *asests* too
863: [14:39:33] <swaiba> I've had that get int eh way of new requirements
864: [14:39:37] <wmk> swaiba, what if i use memcached and want to flush?
865: [14:39:58] <swaiba> wmk sorry couldn't answer that
866: [14:40:10] <slievr> hey guys whenever I make a new page or obj I get a blank cms with no main only left. have you guy encountered this before?
867: [14:40:24] <swaiba> I can answer that if you use vhosts, like I do, and don't use caches in root then /tmp is in danger and bad things can happen
868: [14:40:44] <catcher> slievr, check error logs, or check browser debug console network response
869: [14:40:46] <swaiba> slievr - known as "white screen of death" - read common problems in docs
870: [14:40:48] <wmk> swaiba, oh
871: [14:41:07] <wmk> slievr, some error in your code, enable errors (dev mode, error logging etc..)
872: [14:41:17] <swaiba> slievr especially "dev mode"
873: [14:41:26] <bobface> swaiba: assets/_combinedfiles is empty :O
874: [14:41:39] <swaiba> bobface that is fine just one place to test
875: [14:41:43] <slievr> nothing in error log
876: [14:41:48] <slievr> and I get his in console
877: [14:41:48] <swaiba> so one more thing that isn't causing your issue :)
878: [14:41:49] <slievr> Synchronous XMLHttpRequest on the main thread is deprecated because of its detrimental effects to the end user's experience. For more help, check http://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/.
879: [14:41:59] <bobface> thanks for your help guys =]
880: [14:43:32] <Pyiizilk> nothing else slievr ?
881: [14:43:59] <slievr> nothing else
882: [14:44:11] <slievr> It's why it's annoying me so much
883: [14:44:14] <slievr> no clues
884: [14:45:04] <slievr> it's ver 3.1.9 if that helps
885: [14:47:15] <Pyiizilk> what is the response body from the last request?
886: [14:48:17] <wmk> slievr, in console or firebug network tab, you'll see an answer of the ajax request
887: [14:48:28] <wmk> should be an php error that crashes cms javascript
888: [14:50:12] <slievr> wmk, cool will see if I can get anywhere
889: [14:50:40] <swaiba> anyone know of referenced based permissions in silverstipe?
890: [14:51:16] <swaiba> e.g. ObjA references ObjB (has_one, has_many, etc)
891: [14:51:47] <swaiba> and as ObjB is referenced it cannot be deleted - until the reference to it is removed
892: [14:52:26] <Pyiizilk> swaiba: onbeforedelete
893: [14:53:00] <swaiba> yeah for me to code every single case Pyiizilk - I'm after something that does it generically
894: [14:53:15] <bobface> FIXED. It was nothing to do with anything. I only updated themes folder using SVN, not mysite folder. Facepalm etc, thanks guys you have been great I am going to uninstall my computer from my face
895: [14:54:16] <slievr> bobface, sounds painful
896: [14:55:32] <Pyiizilk> swaiba: not sure there is one :<
897: [14:55:42] <Pyiizilk> bobface: usually the case ;)
898: [14:55:54] <Pyiizilk> Had that many times, that's why I said the path was wrong, although you'd just told me it wasn't.
899: [14:56:04] <Pyiizilk> force the triple check! :D
900: [14:56:38] <bobface> sorry Pyiizilk currently busy removing myself from genepool :D
901: [14:56:51] <bobface> that was 20 minutes wasted
902: [14:57:07] <swaiba> bobface don't worry about it, only liars never make mistakes
903: [14:57:17] <bobface> my excuse is this site has a fuckload going on so this is when occam's razor must be remembered in order to not overcomplicate troubleshooting
904: [14:57:41] <wmk> is there a way to make a report filterable?
905: [14:59:03] <swaiba> wmk - http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-SS_Report.html#209-248
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907: [14:59:47] <swaiba> long time since I've used the core reporting - but I'm sure it is that or similar to setup feilds that pass to the records fucntion
908: [15:00:25] <wmk> swaiba, thanks, seems i have to define the parameterfields
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911: [15:22:15] <Pyiizilk> D:
912: [15:22:16] <Pyiizilk> [15:56] <bobface> sorry Pyiizilk currently busy removing myself from genepool :D
913: [15:22:17] <Pyiizilk> wtf
914: [15:22:18] <Pyiizilk> !
915: [15:28:11] <wmk> ???
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918: [15:56:20] <Pyiizilk> is liek weekend time
919: [15:56:23] <Pyiizilk> ciao
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