#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 9 April 2015

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7: [00:17:38] <UncleCheese> why is silverstripe better than wordpress?
8: [00:18:25] <antmas> UncleCheese: are you ... trolling?
9: [00:18:32] <UncleCheese> working
10: [00:18:37] <ss23> antmas: He's looking for ways to convince clients
11: [00:18:51] <UncleCheese> this sprint is about creating a sales tool to convince people to choose ss over wp
12: [00:19:09] <Stomach> because templating
13: [00:19:16] <Stomach> and code quality
14: [00:19:17] <Stomach> and standards
15: [00:19:19] <Stomach> and security
16: [00:19:21] <Stomach> and trust
17: [00:19:22] <ss23> Stomach: Try picking something that people give a fuck about
18: [00:19:23] <Stomach> and fun
19: [00:19:25] <antmas> so all the things
20: [00:19:28] <Stomach> and burger fuel
21: [00:19:39] <Stomach> ss23 BURGER FUEL
22: [00:19:44] <ss23> :D
23: [00:19:47] <ss23> but srsly
24: [00:19:55] <ss23> you guys just listed shit that the people who make decisions DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT
25: [00:20:01] <ss23> They care about things like UI and modules
26: [00:20:26] <antmas> do they care about the fact it's easier for a developer to fix things? I.e. money?
27: [00:20:36] <ss23> Not exactly. Wordpress devs are cheaper
28: [00:20:43] <ss23> More of them, too
29: [00:20:47] <antmas> hmmm
30: [00:21:00] <antmas> I need to rethink a few basic principals
31: [00:21:04] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: less cost spent on maintenence. How about that?
32: [00:21:13] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: that's what I said
33: [00:21:15] <ss23> Stability is probably wanted, but I think you're be silly to call SilverStripe stable, given how many critical/breaking bugs it has
34: [00:21:22] <ss23> Remember that one just the other version where gridfields just didn't work anymore
35: [00:21:27] <ss23> And that went out in a stable/live release
36: [00:21:36] * muskie9 is now known as muskie9_afk
37: [00:21:37] <UncleCheese> Yeah, I need points that a client can use
38: [00:21:42] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: I'd accept it as a positive if you could show some numbers on it, but I'm not sure that it works out like that
39: [00:21:43] <antmas> you get to come on SSIRC with all the cool cats when you need help?
40: [00:21:50] <ss23> antmas: A+
41: [00:21:55] <UncleCheese> it's like saying, "you should buy this house because the electrical work is reeeeeeeeally elegant."
42: [00:21:58] <ss23> "bitchin' people on IRC to fuck around with while owrking on your CMS!"
43: [00:22:03] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: “Do I have to update wordpress every ten days"
44: [00:22:18] <Ryan-Toast> “Oh good, the core API has changed”
45: [00:22:21] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: They don't care about that as long as it doesn't require effort. Wordpress has autoupdater now, so it's moot
46: [00:22:26] <ss23> Clients don't care about "core API"
47: [00:22:43] * Ryan-Toast goes back to browsing reddit
48: [00:22:52] <ss23> Man
49: [00:23:00] <ss23> You guys suck at being clients!
50: [00:23:04] * ss23 gets out his whip
51: [00:23:09] <ss23> More roleplay training is going to be needed on you two.
52: [00:23:10] <UncleCheese> ss23 i think we need you to change teams
53: [00:23:15] <Stomach> UncleCheese - because "It’s more intuitive, unrestricted, secure, scalable and supported than any alternative we looked at. "
54: [00:23:16] <ss23> XD
55: [00:23:16] <Stomach> UncleCheese - "SilverStripe’s platform doesn’t impose any constraints or restrictions, allowing us complete freedom to design a beautiful solution based on our clients' business requirements."
56: [00:23:22] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: CMS can be branded to look like your company!
57: [00:23:29] <Stomach> UncleCheese - "Your website is unique and can’t be backed into a turnkey content management solution. We craft custom digital solutions to match our clients' needs. This customisation extends past the client facing look and feel, we will design a custom administration panel to streamline your business and provide you with the tools and information you need. If it is going to make your business better, we can develop it."
58: [00:23:38] <antmas> boom
59: [00:23:44] <antmas> any pleb client will believe that
60: [00:23:49] <UncleCheese> How about this: "SilverStripe is like sex. When it's good, it's really good. When it's bad, it's still better than anything else you could be doing."
61: [00:23:50] <ss23> Yeah, I think to sell SilverStripe, you'll have to angle at the "Your developers will love it and it's a more freedom thingy platform"
62: [00:23:57] <ss23> lol UncleCheese
63: [00:23:57] <spronk2> lawl
64: [00:24:05] <spronk2> your developers will hate it because its php
65: [00:24:07] <Ryan-Toast> UC: +1
66: [00:24:11] <spronk2> but its alright.
67: [00:24:15] <ss23> spronk2: The best PHP
68: [00:24:23] <spronk2> php ahtes your developers too
69: [00:24:32] <ss23> rofl
70: [00:24:35] <ss23> coworker just came up
71: [00:24:38] <UncleCheese> thanks, Stomach will capture those
72: [00:24:38] <ss23> "hey hey hey look"
73: [00:24:39] <antmas> "it's made by Kiwis! just like Lorde! BUY NOW PLS"
74: [00:24:42] <ss23> grabs a swiss ball and puts it on his head
75: [00:24:44] <Ryan-Toast> There are two types of languages, those people complain about and those people have never heard of.
76: [00:24:46] <ss23> "I'm bald"
77: [00:24:59] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: I hear few complaints about Go
78: [00:25:08] <ss23> I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about Go
79: [00:25:13] <ss23> The worst I've heard is "I think I prefer Rust"
80: [00:25:49] <Stomach> UncleCheese - https://www.littlegiant.co.nz/silverstripe-developers/ :P
81: [00:26:01] <antmas> lol knew it would be from there :P
82: [00:26:21] <UncleCheese> that's kind of amazing, since before you arrived, they were a WP shop, right?
83: [00:27:32] <ss-helper> Re: Is this a bug or was it designed to work like this? - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101591#post401166
84: [00:27:33] <Ryan-Toast> How do you become a certified partner with SS?
85: [00:27:47] <ss23> We’re SilverStripe certified partners and are lucky enough to have a direct relationship with SilverStripe’s development team.
86: [00:27:51] <ss23> AKA "We hang out on IRC"
87: [00:27:52] <ss23> :D
88: [00:27:59] <Ryan-Toast> :P
89: [00:28:02] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast you threaten that you'll switch to Wordpress
90: [00:28:19] <ss23> ow ow
91: [00:28:20] <ss23> ow
92: [00:28:22] <ss23> I just like
93: [00:28:23] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Ah, empty threats :P
94: [00:28:25] <ss23> had air in my chest
95: [00:28:26] <ss23> then swalloed
96: [00:28:28] <ss23> oh god
97: [00:28:31] <ss23> oh god it hurts
98: [00:28:38] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: wat
99: [00:28:42] <ss23> I dunno
100: [00:28:54] <ss23> I like, swallowed a mouthful of coke while I had air underneath it
101: [00:28:54] <antmas> ss23: just fart
102: [00:28:55] <ss23> so like
103: [00:28:58] <ss23> it pushed the air down my throat
104: [00:29:00] <ss23> painfully
105: [00:29:07] <UncleCheese> Stomach umm.... littlegiant site no es responsivo
106: [00:29:16] <ss23> little giaint site worked for me
107: [00:29:18] <UncleCheese> ¡
108: [00:29:22] <ss23> UncleCheese: The internet here is... not good
109: [00:29:32] <ss23> Known issue, outside of our control
110: [00:29:41] <Ryan-Toast> UC: They detect mobile I think
111: [00:29:56] * antmas does minimizy thing on littlegiant
112: [00:29:58] <UncleCheese> i didn't say no es respondo ¡
113: [00:30:00] <antmas> that is correct
114: [00:30:05] <UncleCheese> i said no es responsivo
115: [00:30:08] <Ryan-Toast> IT’s WP as well :P
116: [00:30:11] <UncleCheese> sheesh.. get your spanglish right
117: [00:30:13] <antmas> LOl is it?
118: [00:30:26] <UncleCheese> NO!
119: [00:30:33] <UncleCheese> Yessssss...........
120: [00:30:47] <Stomach> yeah it is
121: [00:30:48] <UncleCheese> that's like using wordpress to run a blog about sivlerstripe
122: [00:30:51] <Stomach> lol
123: [00:30:54] <antmas> UncleCheese: huehuehue
124: [00:31:00] <Stomach> and yes UncleCheese they were a wordpress shop before I got here
125: [00:31:08] <UncleCheese> conversion complete
126: [00:31:39] <antmas> Stomach: did you just walk in and throw a big ol' silverstripe book on the table and say 'shit gon' change!'
127: [00:32:11] <ss23> lol
128: [00:32:12] <Stomach> said my employment with them was dependent on the fact that I could develop on whatever platform I wanted
129: [00:32:29] <Stomach> its in my contract
130: [00:32:35] <Stomach> I could start writing coldfusion tomorrow and it would be fine
131: [00:32:42] <Stomach> well, as fine as it could be :S
132: [00:32:57] <Ryan-Toast> lol
133: [00:32:59] <Ryan-Toast> nice
134: [00:33:14] <ss23> Don't they have provisions about causing serious harm to your coworkers?
135: [00:33:14] <antmas> just start doing everything in Sharepoint
136: [00:33:19] <ss23> Coldfusion falls into that category I think
137: [00:33:27] * Colin[pi] slaps antmas
138: [00:33:54] <Stomach> ss23 - I'm the technical director, my workers write in what I think is best for our companies growth
139: [00:33:56] <Colin[pi]> coldfusion is for masochists I reckon
140: [00:34:00] <Stomach> at the moment that's silverstripe
141: [00:35:30] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: big dick swinging
142: [00:35:51] <Colin[pi]> ^ Ryan-Toast's google search history
143: [00:35:54] <Colin[pi]> ;D
144: [00:36:22] <adrexia> WP is fine as a blogging platform. And if a client wanted a blogging platform I'd recommend WP over silverstripe. If custom dev was required outside the scope of blogging, I wouldn't. All the nicew UI beenfits start to disappear when you have to bolt on functionality it wasn't built for. Silverstripe has a more complex UI, but because of that there is room to build in a bunch of different directions. It's more scalable, more se
145: [00:36:22] <adrexia> cure, and more robust
146: [00:37:03] <antmas> settle down adrexia
147: [00:37:10] <antmas> :P
148: [00:37:11] <adrexia> lol
149: [00:37:16] <adrexia> I'm pretty settled
150: [00:37:27] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: SS is one of the only things I've looked at it's code and gone "huh, I get what it's doing here" (for the most part :P)
151: [00:37:40] <Colin[pi]> except TemplateParser
152: [00:37:44] <Colin[pi]> fuck TemplateParser
153: [00:37:49] <antmas> I look at ss and go 'what would simon do here?'
154: [00:37:51] <adrexia> lols
155: [00:38:08] <Stomach> PEG !
156: [00:38:12] <Stomach> simon loves PEG
157: [00:38:13] <Colin[pi]> antmas: WWSWD
158: [00:38:16] <adrexia> Well, I have emergency ported WP sites to silverstripe because they got hacked
159: [00:38:31] <adrexia> I haven't heard of the opposite happening ;)
160: [00:38:56] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: how much of that is architecture and how much is popularity though?
161: [00:39:01] <Colin[pi]> this is the question
162: [00:39:05] <adrexia> But it's hard to go past the out-of-the-box WP user experience
163: [00:39:22] <adrexia> Colin[pi], its a bit of both - if you just use core it lowers your risk
164: [00:39:41] <UncleCheese> all of that whizbang/turnkey wow factor is afforded at the expense of flexibility and scalability, however
165: [00:39:47] <adrexia> if you start using modules and go outside WP hosting you increase your risk
166: [00:39:49] <Colin[pi]> ^ this
167: [00:39:57] <adrexia> UncleCheese, yes
168: [00:40:16] <adrexia> it's be nice to steal from them a bit more though
169: [00:40:22] <adrexia> they have some nice UX
170: [00:40:24] <adrexia> :D
171: [00:40:26] <UncleCheese> another analogy we're working on is that WP promotes adding features through adding plugins
172: [00:40:30] <antmas> UncleCheese: well, given you can module the fuck out of it, what needs to be flexible in wp's case?
173: [00:40:36] <UncleCheese> and you keep stacking them up higher and higher, and eventually it falls over
174: [00:40:46] <adrexia> Silverstripe doesn't ?
175: [00:40:57] <UncleCheese> SS promotes developing new features using its toolset, and as you go higher, the stability is buttressed by the framework
176: [00:41:21] <adrexia> oh I see what you mean
177: [00:41:27] <UncleCheese> adrexia how many SS modules make any diffrerence to the end user out of the box?
178: [00:41:34] <UncleCheese> most of them are tools to assist the developer
179: [00:41:49] <adrexia> Word presses foundations are like this: _ Silverstripes like this: _________
180: [00:41:50] <antmas> that's a good point
181: [00:41:52] <UncleCheese> you have your blog, swipestripe, calendar modules, but those don't by and large typify SS addons
182: [00:41:52] <ss23> :O
183: [00:41:55] <ss23> New Deus Ex trailer
184: [00:42:04] <antmas> ss23: link now
185: [00:42:05] <antmas> NOW
186: [00:42:07] <antmas> GO
187: [00:42:09] <ss23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvSs5b6y-YM
188: [00:42:09] <Colin[pi]> !!!!!
189: [00:42:11] <adrexia> UncleCheese, who are you meanign by end user?
190: [00:42:22] <antmas> omgomgomgomg
191: [00:42:26] <UncleCheese> the dude or dudette who's using the cms
192: [00:42:42] <adrexia> A lot of them
193: [00:42:55] <adrexia> there's a lot of UX modifications or functionality additions
194: [00:43:03] <UncleCheese> true
195: [00:43:08] <UncleCheese> i guess i'm thinking frontend stuff
196: [00:43:13] <ss23> OMFG
197: [00:43:19] <ss23> INTERNET LAGGING MEANS I CAN'T WATCH THIS IN REAL TIME
198: [00:43:19] <ss23> WTF
199: [00:43:25] <ss23> fuck stupid lagging internet
200: [00:43:27] <Colin[pi]> same here
201: [00:43:39] <Colin[pi]> it has gone to potato quality now
202: [00:43:50] <antmas> omg lag
203: [00:43:51] <UncleCheese> and the argument i'd like to make is that you don't see whizbang modules that give you new page types because it's just too damn easy to create your own and do it exactly the way you want
204: [00:44:19] <Stomach> WHIZBANG
205: [00:44:57] <Ryan-Toast> WHIZZ-MOTHERFUCKING-BANG
206: [00:45:02] <spronk2> hm
207: [00:45:04] <spronk2> what the fuck
208: [00:45:24] <Stomach> UncleCheese - thats not a good argument to make with clients though
209: [00:45:30] <Stomach> who have the "plugin" idea in their head
210: [00:45:48] <spronk2> shitty cheap clients have the "plugin" idea in their head
211: [00:45:49] <antmas> that trailer was awesome
212: [00:45:53] <UncleCheese> right, the task is to educate them of the long-term cost of plugins
213: [00:46:05] <Ryan-Toast> Sounds like these clients you’re having to sell to aren’t clients you want.,
214: [00:46:20] <UncleCheese> i know.. separate issue, Ryan-Toast
215: [00:46:22] <UncleCheese> :)
216: [00:46:29] <Stomach> no client is a client you want
217: [00:46:31] <adrexia> Unclechsse - the CWP module gives you a bunchy of page types :D
218: [00:46:34] <Stomach> ITS THE CLIENT YOU NEED
219: [00:46:47] <Ryan-Toast> Why should they give a shit what framework/cmns you use?
220: [00:46:55] <UncleCheese> is it true that content editors can go into the CMS and upgrade a bunch of shit on the production server and some of those plugins won't get along and your site will shit the bed?
221: [00:46:57] <Ryan-Toast> It’s a tool to suit their eneeds.
222: [00:47:17] <antmas> well that's the thing, it's what they have in their heads vs what you want to use to service their needs
223: [00:47:21] <antmas> and selling that is tough
224: [00:47:26] <Ryan-Toast> Fuck them.
225: [00:47:31] <adrexia> UncleCheese, Drupal allows that too if you give people access rights to do it
226: [00:47:41] <UncleCheese> that's kinda dumb
227: [00:47:49] <adrexia> indeed
228: [00:48:04] <adrexia> but real drupal dev's just don't give clients access to do taht ;)
229: [00:48:07] <UncleCheese> god forbid you're source controlling your site
230: [00:48:12] <antmas> *installs Deus Ex again*
231: [00:48:16] <adrexia> yeah
232: [00:48:35] <adrexia> I guess that's the otehr thing - Silverstripe's deployments are comparatively easy compared to drupal
233: [00:48:42] <adrexia> it's just code that gets deployed
234: [00:48:52] <Stomach> wanna change server? wordpress says fuck you edit my database
235: [00:48:57] <Stomach> wanna change your domain name?
236: [00:49:00] <Stomach> fuck you, edit my database
237: [00:49:05] <Stomach> etc
238: [00:49:06] <adrexia> ewww
239: [00:49:07] <Stomach> :(
240: [00:49:35] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Oh god, I forgot that it writes the URLs in the database :O
241: [00:49:43] <adrexia> yeah, I'm a firm believer in being easly able to move things between environments with minimal config
242: [00:50:10] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: you mean you’re a logical, and resonable person?
243: [00:50:12] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - and paths
244: [00:50:12] <adrexia> but all of that is dev related - we already know silverstripe is nicer to developers
245: [00:50:16] <antmas> well that is a good sales point
246: [00:50:20] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: *shudder*
247: [00:50:25] <adrexia> Ryan-Toast, dunno if I'd go that far ;)
248: [00:51:27] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: the CMS is pretty nice to users as well, I mean really you could do much worse
249: [00:53:22] <Ryan-Toast> I likle the CMS with a little bit of css tweaking
250: [00:55:00] <Ryan-Toast> When you ask your designers “Why is this here, what’s the point of it”, and they replay “We don’t know“
251: [00:55:10] <Ryan-Toast> Reply
252: [00:56:24] <adrexia> Colin[pi], yes. But because its a complicated system it's hard to learn
253: [00:56:32] <adrexia> at least for normal people
254: [00:56:37] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: mm I don't really think so
255: [00:56:40] <adrexia> easier than many others thoguh
256: [00:56:52] <Colin[pi]> I can school most folks in like an hour or less
257: [00:56:54] <adrexia> it's nowhere near as complicated as drupal
258: [00:56:59] <Colin[pi]> oh god no
259: [00:57:09] <Colin[pi]> drupal is scary for some users
260: [00:57:09] <adrexia> Colin[pi], I find users use it completely differently than I do
261: [00:57:14] <adrexia> it is, yeah
262: [00:57:26] <adrexia> but Wordpress is like... it feels safe
263: [00:57:32] <adrexia> like you can't really mess it up
264: [00:57:45] <adrexia> Silverstripe is more intimidating
265: [00:57:55] <ss23> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcx6YyXvvRI omg omg omg
266: [00:57:55] <ss23> so cute
267: [00:58:00] <Stomach> ill mess anything up given 2 minutes
268: [00:58:04] <adrexia> haha
269: [00:58:06] <Stomach> and an icecream
270: [00:58:09] <Colin[pi]> I've only had one client who seemed to destroy half the site whenever she logged into the CMS
271: [00:58:15] <adrexia> I also think developers need to actually use silverstripe more
272: [00:58:15] <Colin[pi]> but I think she was "special"
273: [00:58:17] <Colin[pi]> :D
274: [00:58:27] <adrexia> there are some things about it that can get pretty frustrating
275: [00:58:34] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: like?
276: [00:58:39] <adrexia> tinymce
277: [00:58:40] <adrexia> :P
278: [00:58:44] <Colin[pi]> oh
279: [00:58:45] <Colin[pi]> well
280: [00:58:46] <Colin[pi]> yes
281: [00:58:58] <adrexia> and things like advanced workflow
282: [00:59:11] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - you know that tinymce config you showed us before? please send me the code link for that config
283: [00:59:12] <Stomach> <3
284: [00:59:38] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: https://github.com/Rhym/silverstripe-boilerplate/blob/master/code/Modules/Shortcodes/_config.php#L154
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287: [01:08:03] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: is that what you were looking for?
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289: [01:15:27] <Ryan-Toast> I want to buy an apartment.
290: [01:17:33] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: prices reasonable over there or astronomical like here?
291: [01:17:42] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Pretty steep.
292: [01:17:45] <Colin[pi]> mm
293: [01:18:58] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: last time I looked here it was about $600K for a new 3-bdr
294: [01:19:06] <Colin[pi]> or was that 2?
295: [01:19:08] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Oh, I mean like a 1-br
296: [01:19:13] <Ryan-Toast> apartment in the city
297: [01:19:31] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: renting atm?
298: [01:20:18] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Yeah, just until I leave
299: [01:20:23] <Ryan-Toast> in September
300: [01:20:37] <Ryan-Toast> Moved out of my apartment when the ex and I split.
301: [01:20:42] <Colin[pi]> ah k
302: [01:20:57] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I'd like to get a townhouse next if I can, currently renting apartment
303: [01:21:14] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I love apartment life.
304: [01:21:25] <Ryan-Toast> Good investments if you’re living in them solo/
305: [01:21:38] <Colin[pi]> mm I'm not really keen on the house thing, did it with the ex
306: [01:21:47] <Colin[pi]> apartment/unit/townhouse suits me
307: [01:21:51] <Ryan-Toast> Same
308: [01:21:55] <Ryan-Toast> I love apartments
309: [01:21:58] <Ryan-Toast> Fuck all to clean.
310: [01:22:01] <Colin[pi]> ^
311: [01:22:07] <Colin[pi]> and location can be great
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313: [01:23:53] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: gf saw these townhouses close by on our walk, look bloody awesome, basically brand new... looked them up, start at $995,000
314: [01:23:54] <Colin[pi]> :(
315: [01:24:12] <Colin[pi]> fuck that noise
316: [01:24:23] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Ha.
317: [01:24:29] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, shit’s expensive.
318: [01:24:49] <Ryan-Toast> I’d look for a $300,000 single bedroom on the outskirts of the inner city.
319: [01:24:53] <Ryan-Toast> Most likely.
320: [01:25:04] <Ryan-Toast> Have it for 5 years, sell it etc.
321: [01:25:08] <Colin[pi]> mm
322: [01:25:13] <Ryan-Toast> That’s how that works, right?
323: [01:25:13] <Colin[pi]> wont go down in value
324: [01:25:29] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: More about a forced investment rather than housing costs.
325: [01:25:41] <Colin[pi]> mm
326: [01:25:42] <Ryan-Toast> 5 years of mortgage
327: [01:25:46] <Ryan-Toast> rather than rent
328: [01:26:19] <Ryan-Toast> Kiwisaver is pretty good now, you xcan take pretty much all your money out and use it as a depost.
329: [01:29:45] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: plus every year you've been in it, they give you $1000 (up to 5 years)
330: [01:29:49] <antmas> it's pretty good really
331: [01:29:59] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: not if you earn over $80,000
332: [01:30:21] <antmas> this is true
333: [01:30:26] <Ryan-Toast> This sis bullshit
334: [01:30:37] <spronk2> ughh
335: [01:30:39] <spronk2> fucking kiwisaver
336: [01:30:40] <spronk2> fucking bullshit
337: [01:30:41] <Ryan-Toast> “have a household income (before tax) of less than $80,000 per year (for one person), or less than $120,000 per year (for two or more people)”
338: [01:30:43] <spronk2> fucking home ownership shit
339: [01:30:45] <Ryan-Toast> fuck youuuuuuu
340: [01:31:09] <spronk2> national: ITS A SUPPLY PROBLEM
341: [01:31:14] <spronk2> everyone else: NO ITS NOT
342: [01:31:38] <spronk2> cost: UP WE GO!
343: [01:31:43] <antmas> it's a ponzie scheme is what it is
344: [01:31:50] <spronk2> it actually is
345: [01:33:24] <antmas> <Ryan-Toast> I’d look for a $300,000 single bedroom on the outskirts of the inner city.
346: [01:33:29] <antmas> that is so fucking expensive
347: [01:33:38] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Welcome to Auckland
348: [01:33:42] <antmas> :(
349: [01:33:48] <spronk2> come to christchurch we've got lions
350: [01:33:55] <Ryan-Toast> and racists :D
351: [01:33:59] <spronk2> christhurch
352: [01:34:02] <spronk2> can ya believe it
353: [01:34:16] <antmas> racists and bogans
354: [01:34:20] <antmas> \o/
355: [01:34:39] <antmas> come to Nelson and you get nothing... but lovely people :P
356: [01:34:51] <Colin[pi]> antmas: that's actually cheap compared to Canberra
357: [01:35:03] <antmas> mmm I bet
358: [01:35:19] <Colin[pi]> antmas: cheapest I saw close to me was like $425K
359: [01:35:20] <antmas> $300,00 here would get you a 3brdm house close-ish to the city centre
360: [01:35:23] <Colin[pi]> for a fucking one beddy
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362: [01:36:16] <antmas> best bet is to find a job where you get a company car and go live way the fuck our the wops of Auckland
363: [01:36:17] * muskie9_afk is now known as muskie9
364: [01:36:21] <antmas> Gl if you're in IT though
365: [01:37:47] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - yes please :D
366: [01:38:07] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Yes please? Wasn’t that the code?
367: [01:38:08] <Colin[pi]> antmas: when I first started looking at houses back in... mmm, 2003? you could get a 3-bdr house in the burbs, big block, for $165K :(
368: [01:38:15] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - yes thankyou
369: [01:38:19] <Stomach> sorry wrong word
370: [01:38:26] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Coolio :D
371: [01:38:35] <Ryan-Toast> The styles are in my cms branding theme if you want them.
372: [01:38:41] <Ryan-Toast> fir the tinymce
373: [01:39:18] <antmas> Colin[pi]: mmm I passed up a $250,000 4bdrm brand new house with land and double car garage to come here and study
374: [01:39:19] <antmas> :|
375: [01:40:09] <Colin[pi]> antmas: we used to own a tiny 3 bdr dual-occupancy house, bought for $210K, sold for $365K 5 years after
376: [01:40:12] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: where?
377: [01:40:27] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: West Coast, admittedly :P
378: [01:40:48] <UncleCheese> I JUST SAW BRETT FROM FLIGHT OF THE CONCORDES!!!!!!
379: [01:40:56] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: ZOMG
380: [01:40:59] <Ryan-Toast> UC: Brit?
381: [01:41:01] <Ryan-Toast> BRIT?
382: [01:41:04] <Ryan-Toast> Breet
383: [01:41:07] <UncleCheese> haha
384: [01:41:13] <UncleCheese> Brut
385: [01:41:28] <UncleCheese> he was eating!!!!!
386: [01:41:37] <adrexia> antmas - I dunno. Nelson looks pretty expensive too. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&cid=5748&sidebar=1&rptpath=350-5748-3399-&132=PROPERTY&134=8&135=&216=0&216=0&217=0&217=0&153=&122=0&122=0&49=0&49=0&178=0&178=0&sidebarSearch_keypresses=0&sidebarSearch_suggested=0
387: [01:42:04] <adrexia> though I guess if you go for a single bedroom it might come down a bit
388: [01:42:12] <antmas> adrexia: well yeah anywhere is if you don't filter it :P
389: [01:42:15] <UncleCheese> adrexia controlled for quality/size/features, there's no comparison to WGT
390: [01:42:41] <spronk2> o_O
391: [01:42:55] <Ryan-Toast> Auckland**
392: [01:42:58] <adrexia> Unclecheese it still depends where you go
393: [01:42:59] <UncleCheese> we're in love with this place http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-857839675.htm
394: [01:43:01] <antmas> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&cid=5748&sidebar=1&rptpath=350-5748-3399-&132=PROPERTY&134=8&135=52&216=0&216=0&217=0&217=0&153=&122=2&122=3&49=0&49=300000&178=0&178=0&sidebarSearch_keypresses=0&sidebarSearch_suggested=0
395: [01:43:03] <antmas> adrexia: ^^^
396: [01:43:09] <adrexia> if you look out silverstream you get cheapish wellignton
397: [01:43:10] <UncleCheese> and yesterday, it came up with a different price of $325k
398: [01:43:14] <UncleCheese> my wife and i went ballistic
399: [01:43:17] <UncleCheese> ballistic
400: [01:43:20] <UncleCheese> and called the agency
401: [01:43:25] <Ryan-Toast> UC: How much was it before?
402: [01:43:31] <UncleCheese> "oh, sorry.. we're using new software and it must have updated the wrong listing.."
403: [01:43:35] <adrexia> that place is amazing
404: [01:43:39] <UncleCheese> "by negotation, RV $510k"
405: [01:43:58] <UncleCheese> i hate this by negotiation shit
406: [01:44:03] <antmas> UncleCheese: wait, so the real price is 325k or 510k?
407: [01:44:08] <UncleCheese> 510
408: [01:44:13] <UncleCheese> the place next door was $325
409: [01:44:16] <UncleCheese> their software updated the wrong listing
410: [01:44:17] <antmas> yeah makes sense
411: [01:44:23] <spronk2> porirua though
412: [01:44:29] <adrexia> antmas- http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&cid=5748&sidebar=1&rptpath=350-5748-3399-&132=PROPERTY&selected135=52&134=15&135=47&216=0&216=0&217=0&217=0&153=&122=2&122=3&49=0&49=300000&178=0&178=0&sidebarSearch_keypresses=0&sidebarSearch_suggested=0 Apparently there are a few here too.
413: [01:44:34] <UncleCheese> the 325k one actually isn't that bad
414: [01:44:46] <UncleCheese> worth looking at. http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-for-sale/auction-849502805.htm
415: [01:44:53] <UncleCheese> nothing like the other one, though
416: [01:44:56] <UncleCheese> still, same street
417: [01:45:02] <UncleCheese> would have to add on to it
418: [01:45:21] <adrexia> But I do think Nelson tends to have better quality for cheaper
419: [01:45:25] <antmas> yeah but then you'd have to always look at 'the one that got away'
420: [01:45:28] <UncleCheese> no question, adrexia
421: [01:45:28] <adrexia> ...amd just better quality full stop
422: [01:45:55] <antmas> there are shitty places to live in Nelson, but comparatively it's better on all counts
423: [01:45:56] <UncleCheese> i can't imagine that housing gets any worse than WGT in NZ... Auckland is certainly more punishing cost wise
424: [01:46:03] <UncleCheese> and Dunedin sounds horrific in quality
425: [01:46:20] <spronk2> there are some bargains in dunedin
426: [01:46:20] <spronk2> if you can get over the cold winters
427: [01:46:24] <spronk2> esp on the hills
428: [01:46:24] <antmas> Dunedin just sucks for everything
429: [01:46:25] <adrexia> antmas - less issues with damp too
430: [01:46:44] <antmas> adrexia: mmmm dat sun :D
431: [01:46:52] <UncleCheese> 2000k from antarctica and still they say, 'Meh.. insulation..'
432: [01:46:54] <adrexia> Duendin is b ad fro renters - but not so bad for buyers
433: [01:47:05] <adrexia> *bad for
434: [01:47:06] <Stomach> adrexia - dunedin was awesome for renters when I was there
435: [01:47:12] <Stomach> $230/week
436: [01:47:15] <Stomach> 4 bedroom house
437: [01:47:16] <UncleCheese> !!
438: [01:47:18] <Stomach> massive garden
439: [01:47:18] <adrexia> lol - for me too in that it was cheap as chiops ;)
440: [01:47:20] <Stomach> yes please
441: [01:47:36] <Stomach> 2 couples, 2 singles, $43 rent go
442: [01:47:37] <Stomach> amazing
443: [01:47:43] <antmas> yeah but cold
444: [01:47:44] <adrexia> I sort of love Dunedin
445: [01:47:46] <antmas> So cold
446: [01:48:03] <Stomach> I love Dunedin - if there was work and people there I would be there
447: [01:48:05] <Stomach> best city
448: [01:48:14] <Colin[pi]> wow if a NZer is complaining of cold it must be really fucking cold
449: [01:48:18] <adrexia> yeah, but I even have fond memories of the cold ;)
450: [01:48:32] <adrexia> its not as wet or windy as welling'ton
451: [01:48:34] <antmas> I don't have any affinity with Dunedin whatsoever
452: [01:48:37] <antmas> </3
453: [01:48:41] <adrexia> <Stomach> I love Dunedin - if there was work and people there I would be there
454: [01:48:42] <adrexia> me too
455: [01:49:28] <antmas> influenza shot time!
456: [01:49:30] <antmas> \o/
457: [01:49:32] <antmas> get on it
458: [01:49:38] <adrexia> :D
459: [01:50:15] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yay!
460: [01:50:41] <antmas> Ima not get it though, because paleo and autism etc
461: [01:50:52] <Stomach> lol
462: [01:51:07] <Stomach> whats the easiest way to check for dead page types in SS
463: [01:51:13] <Stomach> ie not in database
464: [01:51:40] * antmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
465: [01:53:34] <Stomach> hmm got it
466: [01:53:34] <Stomach> foreach (ClassInfo::subclassesFor('Page') as $class) {
467: [01:53:36] <Stomach> if (!SiteTree::get()->filter('ClassName', $class)->count()) {
468: [01:53:36] <Stomach> error_log('dead page class: ' . $class);
469: [01:53:36] <Stomach> }
470: [01:53:36] <Stomach> }
471: [01:54:07] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: mm simple
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476: [01:57:42] <ss-helper> Re: Get published pages in SS3 - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/data-model-questions/show/21170#post401167
477: [02:00:19] <Ryan-Toast> ASB says I can borrow up to $603,172
478: [02:00:26] <Ryan-Toast> That’s…dangerous
479: [02:01:12] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: yeah dude, they'll always offer more than you can reasonably expect to manage
480: [02:01:38] <spronk2> ugh
481: [02:01:48] <spronk2> banks
482: [02:01:48] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Just get a new Mrs and get her to paty rent :P
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484: [02:02:20] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: she will when she finishes her ludicrously expensive uni :P
485: [02:02:35] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I meant me, haha
486: [02:02:42] <Colin[pi]> oh lol
487: [02:02:43] <Colin[pi]> :P
488: [02:02:57] <spronk2> get a second mrs
489: [02:02:57] <Stomach> nice shoes Ryan-Toast ....
490: [02:02:59] <spronk2> and get HER to pay rent
491: [02:03:07] <Colin[pi]> hell, start a harem
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493: [02:03:26] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Which shoes?
494: [02:05:13] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: shoe confusing intensifies.
495: [02:06:37] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast it drives me crazy how banks tell you how much you can "afford"
496: [02:06:47] <UncleCheese> it's like.. yeah, if i don't want to eat
497: [02:06:56] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Lol, or leave my new house
498: [02:07:06] <UncleCheese> there was a guy here whose sale fell through
499: [02:07:17] <UncleCheese> because the buyer was approved for more than what he was purchasing
500: [02:07:29] <UncleCheese> and the bank was like, no, we approved you for $500k, you're going to borrow $500k
501: [02:07:33] <UncleCheese> you can't borrow $400k
502: [02:07:43] <UncleCheese> that shit is fucked
503: [02:07:49] <Ryan-Toast> wow, that’s awful.
504: [02:08:33] <spronk2> what?
505: [02:08:37] <spronk2> what kind of shithouse bank is that
506: [02:08:42] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: every time rates would go up here, you'd see for sale signs pop up everywhere... pop pop pop! whoopsies, overcommitted ourselves
507: [02:09:03] <adrexia> err, sure, I'll borrow 500k. And pay 100k back tomorrow? ;)
508: [02:12:44] <UncleCheese> adrexia not unless you want to be penalised
509: [02:16:50] <adrexia> yeah, some banks are a bit crazy
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511: [02:26:08] <Ryan-Toast> When SEO companys want an admin account. Haha, no.
512: [02:26:15] <Ryan-Toast> companies
513: [02:26:16] * muskie9_afk is now known as muskie9
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515: [02:55:29] <adrexia> Wellington js meetup rsvp's are open http://www.meetup.com/WellingtonJS/events/221665865/
516: [03:04:07] <spronk2> ugh
517: [03:04:09] <spronk2> phpunit is a pig
518: [03:04:27] <spronk2> how do i have multiple... options... for my cli runner
519: [03:04:38] <spronk2> so i can have one for coverage, and one for ... fast tests
520: [03:12:51] <ss-helper> Re: Virtual Page with Custom Fields - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/customising-the-cms/show/7314#post401168
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522: [04:04:51] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: When SEO companys want an admin account. Haha, no.
523: [04:04:59] <Colin[pi]> ^ that was partly why I fired a client last year
524: [04:09:00] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Do tell
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537: [04:57:46] <zippy> spronk2: new osx version out.
538: [04:57:52] <spronk2> orly?
539: [04:57:53] <spronk2> so
540: [04:57:58] <spronk2> i'll have to fucking restart
541: [04:58:01] <zippy> UncleCheese: brought a macbook pro now?
542: [04:58:19] <zippy> spronk2: im rocking 10 days now I think. Pretty happ with this macbook pro
543: [04:58:24] <zippy> System Uptime: 10 days, 3 hours, 29 minutes, 51 seconds - Textual Uptime: 8 minutes, 43 seconds
544: [04:58:47] <spronk2> oh wow
545: [04:58:50] <spronk2> 10 days and your UI hasn't slowed to a halt?
546: [04:58:59] <zippy> nope, cranking :)
547: [04:59:03] <spronk2> wow
548: [04:59:07] <spronk2> ... don't use an external monitor?
549: [04:59:14] <zippy> 80% of time I do
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551: [05:00:30] <spronk2> hmmmm
552: [05:00:35] <spronk2> i don't belive your UI hasn't slowed to a crawl.
553: [05:00:43] <spronk2> if you switch windows while you have an external monitor in
554: [05:00:47] <spronk2> do you see the menu bars flash ?
555: [05:01:11] <zippy> not plugged into one atm, but I did notice it flashed earlier today
556: [05:01:27] <zippy> "what was that" but then no fucks given as I kept on charging on
557: [05:02:10] <spronk2> yeahh
558: [05:02:11] <spronk2> just you wait
559: [05:02:24] <zippy> 12 days the sweet point eh ;-)
560: [05:02:26] <spronk2> i had to restart earlier
561: [05:02:29] <spronk2> after 15 days
562: [05:02:32] <spronk2> because it was too slow to handle
563: [05:02:52] <zippy> backup, update and reboot time anyway
564: [05:03:13] <zippy> installed civilization revolutions 2 on my phone yesterday... I think that was a bad move
565: [05:03:20] <zippy> "one more move and i'll do some work"
566: [05:05:51] <spronk2> hm
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570: [05:19:50] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: 10 days and your UI hasn't slowed to a halt?
571: [05:19:53] <Colin[pi]> ^ is that still an issue?
572: [05:19:57] <spronk2> seems to be
573: [05:20:14] <Colin[pi]> ffs apple get yo shit together
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581: [05:34:07] <Colin[pi]> "you know colin, some of these inclusions are very technical in nature"
582: [05:34:10] <Colin[pi]> *looks at list
583: [05:34:19] <Colin[pi]> "event calendar",
584: [05:34:21] <spronk2> o_O
585: [05:34:23] <Colin[pi]> "news archive"
586: [05:34:30] <Colin[pi]> "staff profile module"
587: [05:34:36] <Colin[pi]> "contact us page"
588: [05:34:39] <Colin[pi]> SO TECHNICAL, WOW
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590: [05:50:02] <Sticks> "The SilverStripe Framework is missing", no it isn't website plz...
591: [05:50:10] <ss23> lol
592: [05:50:49] <ss23> technical for non-devs
593: [05:53:50] <spronk2> ughhh
594: [05:53:56] <spronk2> why can jenkins not connect to my bitbucket repo
595: [05:53:56] <spronk2> :@
596: [05:54:25] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: because "fuck you", that's why
597: [05:54:36] <spronk2> oh
598: [05:54:39] <Colin[pi]> :D
599: [05:54:40] <spronk2> maybe because i dont have CLI git installed
600: [05:54:47] <Colin[pi]> or could be that, yeah
601: [05:54:47] <spronk2> that was a big fuck you
602: [05:54:48] <spronk2> could ahve told me :@
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604: [06:02:52] <spronk2> ughh
605: [06:02:54] <spronk2> what a fucking mission
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619: [07:28:21] <ss-helper> Re: Responsive Design and Conditional Logic - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/themes-2/show/95614#post401169
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621: [07:37:48] <mobiusnz1> anyone tried running SS on nginx?
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625: [07:51:54] <FMateo> I guys, I´m near to find the solution, someone can help me? (last post) http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101448#post401170
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627: [07:54:02] <mobiusnz> FMateo: why are you calling your form "__FUNCTION__" ?
628: [07:54:11] <mobiusnz> ah wait
629: [07:54:16] <mobiusnz> blonde moment, nevermind
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631: [07:55:22] <mobiusnz> FMateo: you should enable developer mode so you can view the actual error, rather than the "friendly" one
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633: [07:55:44] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#4540 (3 - 178057a : Daniel Hensby): The build passed.
634: [07:55:44] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/2cc9d02f756e...178057aea224
635: [07:55:44] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/57764799
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638: [07:58:25] <ss-helper> Re: Form to comment in DataObject, SilverStripe 3.1.12 - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101448#post401170
639: [08:02:36] <swaiba> Morning all
640: [08:07:14] <huberd> Morning
641: [08:13:27] <ss-helper> Re: Passing image object to method in template - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101546#post401088
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643: [08:43:30] <ss-helper> Re: AJAX page load event for /admin/pages/edit/show/ pages? - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/customising-the-cms/show/101377#post401171
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646: [09:11:56] <mattybalaam> I have a rather confusing problem. Images inserted in the CMS are not being resampled. Nothing appears in the _resampled folder. However, for some images inserted with a gridfield I am using this module (https://github.com/jonom/silverstripe-focuspoint), and the resampled files work perfectly. All permissions in assets are set to 775.
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649: [09:18:38] <mattybalaam> I have just noticed that if the page is viewed in the CMS the file is created.
650: [09:25:34] <mattybalaam> OK, it is created, but not put into the _resampled folder. So on a reload has gone again. There is a resampled link for the image, but nothing on the server: assets/Uploads/_resampled/ResizedImage300160-noticeboard.png
651: [09:27:17] <mobiusnz> mattybalaam: depending on your server setup you might need your asset directories to be 777
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653: [09:31:07] <mattybalaam> OK, it seems that deleting the image, then re-inserting the image 'From CMS' fixes the problem. Very strange.
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667: [10:43:44] <ss-helper> Re: Form to comment in DataObject, SilverStripe 3.1.12 - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101448#post401172
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669: [10:54:08] <Dedra> Hi, I have a short SS2 question. How can I add a new filetype as a "download"? I add this line File::$allowed_extensions[] = 'exe'; to mysite/_config.php and I add <FilesMatch "\.(exe|EXE| to assets/.htaccess and the same for the .htaccess in /root did I forgot something?
670: [10:54:36] <Dedra> I just want to make this download work: http://www.dedra-sc.com/news-en-US/my-stream-with-vlc-player/
671: [10:55:07] <Dedra> I used a .zip but there's a .bat file in the zip, so that chrome user can't download it.... so i created a self-extracting .exe for that.
672: [10:55:37] <Dedra> But when I click on that link, I get an error: http://www.dedra-sc.com/assets/Downloads/Twitch-Live-Streamer.exe
673: [10:56:48] <Dedra> i guess i got the issue wait
674: [10:58:57] <Dedra> working now :D I had spaces instead of - as seperator... So it was working to add the .exe as a download :)
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679: [11:01:12] <Dedra> Ok, but I have another short question. When I try to upload the 27mb Twitch-Live-Streamer.exe file via the backend formular. It doesn't work. So I just put it into /assets/downloads/ via FTP. And just link it manually in the editor :-\ Is there a webserver limit, or why it doesn't work? (like MB limit via backend)
680: [11:10:43] <swaiba> @Dera $myUploadField->setAllowedMaxFileSize(...)
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682: [11:12:09] <Dedra> swaiba, I'm not that good with server settings. Do I neet to put that in the php ini, or just somewhere in SS2?
683: [11:13:08] <swaiba> in the code that builds the form, or if this is scaffolded - then you need to use replaceField in getCMSFileds or getFrontendFields
684: [11:13:36] <Dedra> so i have to "overwrite" it? Because i never changed anything at it
685: [11:14:23] <Dedra> So i create a new .php file in mysite and inherit from the original class / overwrite it?
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687: [11:16:14] <Dedra> perhaps it's just adjustable in plesk let me see ^^
688: [11:17:17] <wmk> buona pasqua everyone
689: [11:17:33] <Dedra> hi ^^
690: [11:17:49] <darjus01> Hi I need to make dropdown with selection category 1 - location 1, category and location has been connected with many many, so there is table Category_Locations, how I can put IDs of Category_Locations to that dropdown, bucause in Category_Locations table is categoryid and location id union any ideas?
691: [11:17:51] <Dedra> Well i can change "upload_max_filesize" from standard to something else. I try 100M
692: [11:19:38] <Dedra> ok, did not work either ^^
693: [11:19:47] <wmk> darjus01, the manymany is from the current page or dataobject?
694: [11:20:46] <wmk> LOL, https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5017
695: [11:21:06] <darjus01> objects
696: [11:21:33] <wmk> so you can call the manymany with e.g. $this->MyManyManyRelation() ?
697: [11:22:03] <darjus01> and in yes but I need that dropdown in other object group
698: [11:22:38] <darjus01> so group could have like option to show category1 -> location 1
699: [11:22:44] <wmk> can you call the dataobject from that objectgroup?
700: [11:23:27] <darjus01> Locations and categories has no relations with groups
701: [11:23:42] <darjus01> and this dropdown will be like relation
702: [11:23:53] <wmk> then: add that relation to the group first?
703: [11:24:30] <wmk> is category1 -> location 1 meant like array(key => value) or like title string "category1 -> location 1" ??
704: [11:24:46] <darjus01> yes
705: [11:24:52] <Dedra> ok, working now. "post_max_size" and "upload_max_filesize" to 100M now I can upload the 30mb file :) thx for help.
706: [11:25:06] <darjus01> and this is from Category_Locations
707: [11:25:14] <wmk> darjus01, yes WHAT??
708: [11:26:39] <darjus01> in dropdown will be string category 1 title - location 1 title and this drop down value is Category_Locations rows ID
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710: [11:27:12] <darjus01> but I can figure it out how to put it into relation Category_Locations with groups
711: [11:27:30] <wmk> darjus01, hmm, dunno if you can get the manymany rows id easily. maybe use plain sql for that
712: [11:27:39] <wmk> or overthink your datamodel ;)
713: [11:28:30] <darjus01> because group will have dropdown like listbox
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715: [11:30:23] <wmk> many many dropdown?
716: [11:31:19] <darjus01> yes
717: [11:32:00] <darjus01> http://snag.gy/G9MrL.jpg on right side
718: [11:32:48] <darjus01> i need Category_Locations put like choise in that drop down
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720: [11:40:33] <wmk> darjus01, hmm, did you check out how to handle many_many with listbox field?
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722: [11:42:23] <darjus01> yes made all worked I made dataobject from relation and thats it :)
723: [11:43:31] <darjus01> http://paste.ofcode.org/FParF9PDWAiXB2ShTVvy4R this saves day
724: [11:46:40] <wmk> pretty much what's the many_many is doing
725: [11:46:59] <wmk> or like you would make it with e.g. MS access
726: [11:55:28] <darjus01> its because client ants add data from front and from "ass" back :)
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728: [12:08:54] <wmk> darjus01, that's a nice explanation
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730: [12:13:01] <zauberfisch> darjus01: many_many works both ways
731: [12:13:29] <zauberfisch> class Foo extends DataObject { private static $many_many = ['Bars' => 'Bar']; }
732: [12:13:29] <darjus01> yes
733: [12:13:43] <zauberfisch> class Bar extends DataObject { private static $belongs_many_many = ['Foos' => 'Foo']; }
734: [12:13:47] <zauberfisch> now:
735: [12:13:48] <darjus01> thats so its lots of many many relations
736: [12:14:17] <zauberfisch> $fooX->Bars()->add($barY); is exactly the same as $BarY->Foos()->add($fooX);
737: [12:14:31] <darjus01> yep
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744: [12:25:47] <wmk> darjus01, you need something to refactor and make better later ;)
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750: [12:35:15] <Eddy> Hello there
751: [12:35:28] <Eddy> need a little bit of silverstripe help :)
752: [12:35:58] <zauberfisch> Eddy: shoot
753: [12:35:58] <swaiba> hello Eddy
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756: [12:37:23] <Eddy> i have admin login form already using custom template.. now i need to make another login form in front end , for user to log and download few file that admin has linked to them :) so.. i have extended MemberLoginForm so that specific group could be redirected to their page in front end
757: [12:38:13] <Eddy> crated e new page type and adsed to temple $LoginForm
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759: [12:39:09] <Eddy> login form is showing , but not the way i like, how can i customize it , for example remove forgon password and off course various CSS stuff
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761: [12:40:04] <Eddy> btw whats the difference between MemberLoginForm and LoginForm ?
762: [12:40:33] <Eddy> as i understand LoginForm was used in earlier versions of SS
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765: [12:44:19] <Eddy> another thing is... i want to redirect logged member to page where they could see listed .PDF files, 1.wha sort of page that would be? 2.how can i get those file for each member differently?
766: [12:44:20] <swaiba> to remove the remove forgot password just overide the form and then remove that action
767: [12:45:10] <swaiba> for the field stuff, I'd recommend manipulating the $_REQUEST['BackURL'] to be where you want them to go
768: [12:45:34] <wmk> Eddy, create a page or controller for the pdflisting, make a getter method like getFilesForCurrentMember(), put it in template
769: [12:45:50] <swaiba> and the page you need to build yourself, much like the tutorial listing articles and stuff - but with your download files
770: [12:45:53] <wmk> like $FilesForCurrentMember
771: [12:46:35] <Eddy> Swaiba, where exactly i need to overide it ?
772: [12:47:01] <swaiba> around the doLogin() command, after the password is validated
773: [12:47:28] <Eddy> oh ok
774: [12:47:37] <Eddy> about pdf listing
775: [12:48:10] <Eddy> i have table ID | UserID | FileID
776: [12:48:32] <Eddy> how can i get all files to that member that is logging ?
777: [12:57:56] <Eddy> hmm ?
778: [13:00:20] <swaiba> $frecords = table::get()->filter('UserID',Member::CurrentUserID())
779: [13:01:34] <Eddy> thank you
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781: [13:09:30] <Eddy> one more thing
782: [13:09:49] <Eddy> how to make my own login fields ?
783: [13:10:30] <Eddy> for example :. i want only usr and pass fields to be visible
784: [13:10:37] <Eddy> and submit ofcourse
785: [13:16:03] <ss-helper> Re: Is this a bug or was it designed to work like this? - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101591#post401173
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794: [14:29:58] <swaiba> Guys - any help on a permissions would be much appreciated
795: [14:30:18] <swaiba> There are a bunch of objects in the system, using ModelAdmin to edit an existing is fine.
796: [14:30:52] <swaiba> But adding a new item and "save" writes the tiem to the database, but then returns ot the results of Model Admin - without the filters
797: [14:31:18] <swaiba> If I reload the ModelAdmin, showing filters again, and search for the item... it isn't returned
798: [14:31:21] <swaiba> any ideas?????
799: [14:32:53] <swaiba> nvm
800: [14:33:08] <swaiba> why is it so often *after* I ask for help the answer comes
801: [14:33:15] <swaiba> #MysterysOfTheMind
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804: [14:35:50] <Alboes> hi. how to get an Image url in a page controller function? The image has a has_one releation with the page
805: [14:36:38] <muskie9> Alboes $this->data()->RelationName()->URL;
806: [14:38:38] <Alboes> great, it's so easy :) Thanks!
807: [14:38:42] <muskie9> sure
808: [14:39:34] <nontgor> muskie9: You can also do things like $this->data()->RelationName()->SetWidth(400)->URL also, just FYI
809: [14:39:46] <muskie9> true nontgor
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813: [15:15:11] <slievr> does anybody know how I would write data to many_many_extrafields ?
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818: [15:19:55] <wmk> slievr, mom
819: [15:20:25] <slievr> mom?
820: [15:20:38] <swaiba> slievr - $obj->ManyManyRelName->add($odjtoaddoradddata,array('ManyManyExtraField' => $value))
821: [15:20:57] <slievr> sick thx
822: [15:21:15] <wmk> slievr, mom = moment. wanted to search something
823: [15:21:31] <swaiba> slievr - small update - $obj->ManyManyRelName()->add($odjtoaddoradddata,array('ManyManyExtraField' => $value))
824: [15:22:08] <swaiba> lol @wmk I thought you were saying something else
825: [15:22:23] <wmk> swaiba, ???
826: [15:22:26] <slievr> wmk, ah okay never seen it abbreviated like that before
827: [15:23:01] <swaiba> nvm
828: [15:23:33] <wmk> slievr, a bit old but should be quite the same: http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/7395
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830: [15:24:03] <vanny> morning all
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832: [15:26:36] <slievr> vanny, moning
833: [15:29:33] <vanny> im struggling to get my head around something
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835: [15:30:36] <slievr> swaiba, waht does this represent
836: [15:30:37] <slievr> $odjtoaddoradddata
837: [15:30:52] <vanny> how do I program a button to call a function in the in the controller
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839: [15:32:23] <NETim> Morning. Any way to check in the template if there is no action set?
840: [15:36:03] <swaiba> silver - see the forum link http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/7395
841: [15:36:15] <swaiba> the object is used both to add or update the data
842: [15:36:50] <swaiba> NETim, not that I know, write a controller fucntion and return it from controller
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844: [15:39:38] <slievr> swaiba, thanks all makes sense now
845: [15:40:02] <swaiba> slievr - no worries
846: [15:41:48] <NETim> swaiba: Ok.Wasn't sure if there was a prebuilt method.
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848: [15:53:40] <swaiba> vanny you need to either look into forms or simply controllers with actions
849: [15:56:24] <NETim> hm, extending the blog page and I either get Call to undefined method BlogExtension::getURLParams() or NULL params...
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851: [16:01:56] <NETim> Anyone? Trying to get Controller::getURLParams from a dataextension?
852: [16:06:07] <vanny> ok, thanks swaiba, I will look into the controllers with actions.
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854: [16:09:58] <muskie9> NETim I don't think you can call that statically... has to be called from the Controller (or an Extension applied to the controller) by $this->getURLParams() if in the Controller or $this->owner->getURLParams() if in the Extension
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859: [17:14:32] <ss-helper> Re: Is this a bug or was it designed to work like this? - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101591#post401174
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865: [17:45:41] <Mike> Hey there
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869: [17:46:53] <Mike_miky> Hey there
870: [17:47:06] <Mike_miky> i seek help in silverstripe
871: [17:47:17] <Mike_miky> wonder if i find it here
872: [17:48:01] <Mike_miky> the login form, how can i get only emai and pass fields in my template, well and submit button
873: [17:48:23] <Mike_miky> dont nned to get whole form with checkbox and lost password link...
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875: [17:51:38] <Mike_miky> another thing is, i want to put whose fields in frontend, i have extended memberloginform so that specific group could access specific page, i need to make new pagetype or its better to create a controller ?
876: [17:55:14] <Mike_miky> no one ?
877: [17:55:20] <Mike_miky> :/
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881: [18:14:40] <ss-helper> i York City from 1,250 fe - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/installing-silverstripe/show/101592
882: [18:14:45] <cloph> Mike_miky: just grep for the string in the code, and you'll finde framework/security/memberLoginForm.php is the file you want to modify. Or you could also use css to hide it (if that is the reason you don't want to have it) - disabling the lostpassword action itself is of course separate to whatever is displayed on a html page...
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886: [18:15:59] <Mike_miky> but can i loop somehow through loginform fields maybe ?
887: [18:19:20] <Mike_miky> i want to hide them only from userLogin, in admin login they ar needed
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890: [18:29:42] <ss-helper> Re: Basic Spam Protection on a Basic Form - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/form-questions/show/101532#post401093
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900: [20:23:29] <antmas> morning all o/
901: [20:24:59] <muskie9> o/
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903: [20:28:34] <antmas> muskie9: \o
904: [20:28:39] <antmas> mobiusnz: o/
905: [20:28:57] <mobiusnz> antmas: \o
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908: [20:42:22] <antmas> jedateach: o/
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912: [20:49:36] <Ryan-Toast> Is there a hook that I can use to place the Requirements:javascript? Sick of it placing itself after a scripttag in the body.
913: [20:50:12] <muskie9> Ryan-Toast onAfterInit(){} ?
914: [20:50:18] <muskie9> in an Extension
915: [20:50:43] <Ryan-Toast> muskie9: Where will that put the js?
916: [20:51:14] <muskie9> at the end I think... runs the Init's first iirc, then does whatever's in there
917: [20:51:24] <muskie9> been a while since I've used it though
918: [20:53:26] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: o/
919: [20:53:43] <Ryan-Toast> muskie9: I’ll give it a go.
920: [20:53:50] <cloph> don't get teh question - requirements javascript will take care of placing it at the end of the html - that's the purpose of using it - so why manually place it?
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922: [20:55:13] <Ryan-Toast> cloph: No it doesn’t, if yoou have a script tag at the start of your body tag for instance, the requirements will place it below that tag.
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924: [20:57:46] <cloph> ah, if there is script tag already, missed that part
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931: [21:16:11] <antmas> friday
932: [21:16:13] <antmas> \o/
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934: [21:19:08] <muskie9> antmas only thursday here :(
935: [21:21:22] <antmas> oh noes
936: [21:21:24] <antmas> :<
937: [21:34:30] <antmas> omg True Detective season 2 trailer
938: [21:36:16] <adrexia> there's going to be another season! :D
939: [21:36:27] <muskie9> saw that earlier! gonna be interesting
940: [21:36:33] <adrexia> True Detective was so damn good.
941: [21:36:41] <antmas> adrexia: yeah, new cast, new story
942: [21:36:47] <antmas> fucking crazy cast actually
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944: [21:37:10] <antmas> adrexia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e99gX6UNN0
945: [21:37:12] <adrexia> <Ryan-Toast> Is there a hook that I can use to place the Requirements:javascript? Sick of it placing itself after a scripttag in the body.
946: [21:37:14] <adrexia> nope
947: [21:37:23] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: rabble rabble
948: [21:37:23] <adrexia> we've been asking for that for quite soem time
949: [21:37:34] <adrexia> I basically just gave up using requirements for js
950: [21:38:45] <adrexia> it causes more pain that its worth.
951: [21:38:57] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: we’ll make our own requirements. With blackjeck, and hookers!
952: [21:39:14] <adrexia> lol
953: [21:41:04] <adrexia> c.f: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/3526 and https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/3459
954: [21:41:43] <adrexia> unfortuantely by fixing the main bugs this caused we've essentially removed any motivation to fix it properly
955: [21:44:18] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: force_js_to_bottom?
956: [21:44:43] <adrexia> like a requirement settingn that did that?
957: [21:44:54] <Ryan-Toast> it’s in the class
958: [21:45:20] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/master/view/Requirements.php#L325
959: [21:46:24] <adrexia> I think that means before or after the current script tag?
960: [21:46:46] <adrexia> so find script tag -> do I insert above or below
961: [21:46:55] <adrexia> but could be wrong
962: [21:47:04] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: looks like it will put it before the end body tag: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/master/view/Requirements.php#L745
963: [21:47:12] <adrexia> tried it?
964: [21:47:17] <Ryan-Toast> Nope,
965: [21:47:37] <adrexia> it does look like it does that yeah
966: [21:47:44] <adrexia> interesting
967: [21:48:08] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: lol, looks like I’ve been here before: http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2014-03-03#log_1203331
968: [21:48:31] <adrexia> hahaha
969: [21:49:38] <adrexia> I guess the last time I looked for that option was a couple ofg years ago
970: [21:51:07] <adrexia> the whole 'find the first piece of js and insert it there' thing is a bit flawed. I can't even think why you'
971: [21:51:09] <adrexia> d want that
972: [21:51:58] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: it works.
973: [21:52:00] <Ryan-Toast> omnomnom
974: [21:52:07] <adrexia> it means that js would appear in different places on different pages if developers did silly things like include js with form fields
975: [21:52:11] <adrexia> yay!
976: [21:52:29] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: it does it because fuck you, that’s why.
977: [21:52:33] <Stomach> requirements
978: [21:52:39] <adrexia> who is this Firesphere person? He deserves a medal. :p
979: [21:52:43] <Stomach> using your controller to determine code in your view
980: [21:52:44] <Stomach> ew.
981: [21:53:20] <Ryan-Toast> Stmach: pfft
982: [21:53:22] <Ryan-Toast> :P
983: [21:53:42] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Do you just have a task runner that minifies your js?
984: [21:53:49] <Ryan-Toast> and then include it in the template?
985: [21:53:52] <Stomach> yah
986: [21:54:29] <adrexia> it does tend to result on horrible spagetti
987: [21:55:05] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - http://pastie.org/10083365
988: [21:55:06] <Stomach> :)
989: [22:03:45] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I have a note here to do the same :P
990: [22:04:03] <Ryan-Toast> If I don’t kill myself this afternoon because of this project.
991: [22:04:09] <Ryan-Toast> GOING LIVE ON A FRIDAY, GREAT IDEA
992: [22:04:23] <Stomach> haha
993: [22:04:26] <Stomach> it will be fine :P
994: [22:04:48] <Ryan-Toast> Three days to make a massive site.
995: [22:04:51] <Ryan-Toast> not stressed at all.
996: [22:04:54] <Ryan-Toast> not a little bit.
997: [22:06:45] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I too am launching today :|
998: [22:06:52] <antmas> best idea evarrrrrr
999: [22:07:17] <Ryan-Toast> I need to finish this today: http://server.webdough.co.nz/~makeawish/
1000: [22:07:49] <antmas> much left?
1001: [22:07:53] <Ryan-Toast> soi much
1002: [22:07:55] <Ryan-Toast> so**
1003: [22:08:04] <Ryan-Toast> Haven’t even started tablet/mobile
1004: [22:08:10] <Ryan-Toast> still heaps of styling shit to do
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1008: [22:19:00] <antmas> eeek
1009: [22:25:11] * antmas just has to make a bootstrap thing look not like bootstrap
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1015: [22:45:15] <ss-helper> Cannot select page to restore - http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/general-questions/show/101593
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1025: [23:18:13] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
1026: [23:18:20] <Colin[pi]> hey antant o/
1027: [23:18:32] <antmas> errr time :|
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1030: [23:27:35] <spronk2> https://bsa.govt.nz/images/assets/Research/What-Not-to-Swear-Full-BSA2010.pdf
1031: [23:27:36] <spronk2> interesting stats.
1032: [23:27:56] <spronk2> in almost all cases of
1033: [23:28:16] <spronk2> 'unacceptable' words, 15-20% higher percentage of females find them unacceptable than males
1034: [23:28:34] * spronk2 found this surprising
1035: [23:29:38] * spronk2 also found it surprising that 25% of people found "God" unacceptable
1036: [23:30:19] <spronk2> which is on average, approximately the same as found "Shit" unacceptable.
1037: [23:31:55] <spronk2> also amusing is Appendix II - Other Unacceptable Words (Verbatim)
1038: [23:32:11] <spronk2> "cum oven mcnugget"
1039: [23:32:16] <antmas> rofl
1040: [23:32:28] <spronk2> "slapper hoe wench "
1041: [23:32:35] <antmas> mcnugget gets used a lot
1042: [23:32:55] <antmas> I have heard many people use 'People McNuggets' to describe little people :D
1043: [23:33:06] <spronk2> “Brian Tamaki” Anything Paul Henry Says
1044: [23:33:26] <spronk2> lol
1045: [23:33:27] <spronk2> deuch bag
1046: [23:33:32] <spronk2> antmas you deuch bag!
1047: [23:33:54] <spronk2> ah, page 32 and 33. Funny stuff
1048: [23:34:08] <antmas> deuch?
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1050: [23:34:10] <antmas> dafuq
1051: [23:34:28] <spronk2> ikr
1052: [23:34:49] <Stomach> whats the easiest way to make it so a gridfield is just a list, and you can click into the items
1053: [23:35:11] <spronk2> o_O
1054: [23:35:35] <spronk2> hm
1055: [23:35:46] <spronk2> is there a chrome extension around that saves tab history... automatically
1056: [23:35:48] <spronk2> so i can just be like
1057: [23:35:48] <spronk2> fuck
1058: [23:35:56] <spronk2> i closed a window 2 days ago that i didnt mean to
1059: [23:38:21] <antmas> why tab history?
1060: [23:38:35] <spronk2> because... history is useless
1061: [23:38:41] <antmas> hmm
1062: [23:38:42] <spronk2> i need tab lists
1063: [23:38:54] <spronk2> i want tab grouping back too
1064: [23:38:55] <spronk2> damnit
1065: [23:38:57] <spronk2> I WANT OPERA 12 BACK
1066: [23:40:58] <spronk2> maybe i should give firefox another go
1067: [23:41:00] <spronk2> it has tab groups
1068: [23:41:44] <antmas> ff is so bad
1069: [23:41:50] <spronk2> ugh
1070: [23:41:50] <spronk2> really?
1071: [23:41:51] <antmas> actually
1072: [23:41:57] <spronk2> have they not fixed.... that.. yet?
1073: [23:42:00] <antmas> all browsers seem to suck now days
1074: [23:42:33] * spronk2 needs faster intenret
1075: [23:42:33] <spronk2> 14 minutes remainingto download this new OS X update
1076: [23:42:40] <spronk2> which is obnoxiously huge because of the pointelss new Photos app
1077: [23:44:31] <Ryan-Toast> spronk2: No, you don’t get to opt out. Mac knows best.
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1080: [23:46:37] <spronk2> :(
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1082: [23:50:46] <ss-helper> SilverStripe Payment Module: 0.4.2 and 0.3.2 security release - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/silverstripe-announce/qFOFfvWBNe8/GBYNgOacmwgJ
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