#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 1 December 2014

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2: [00:01:59] <Colin[pi]> yesss windows that's it, select all my drives and open them all at the same time, that's obviously what I wanted
3: [00:02:20] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: how did you manage that?
4: [00:02:31] <Colin[pi]> want to click a single drive and somehow it selected all instead
5: [00:03:11] <Ryan-Toast> Strange.
6: [00:03:17] <Ryan-Toast> Never knew you could even do that.
7: [00:03:32] <Ryan-Toast> sounds like user error :P
8: [00:03:53] <Colin[pi]> probably! dunno how though
9: [00:04:18] <Colin[pi]> ah yeah I see how, I clicked the group heading first :P
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11: [00:05:21] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol nubcake :P
12: [00:05:42] <Colin[pi]> ^.^
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15: [00:30:44] <Ryan-Toast> anyone know of a ss theme that you can install with compose?
16: [00:30:47] <Ryan-Toast> composer**
17: [00:31:00] <adrexia> the default cwp theme
18: [00:31:02] <adrexia> ;)
19: [00:31:06] <Ryan-Toast> link?
20: [00:33:17] <adrexia> err https://gitlab.cwp.govt.nz/cwp-themes/default
21: [00:34:28] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: chur. How does it know to go into the themes folder?
22: [00:35:00] <adrexia> also, this one should work too https://github.com/adrexia/silverstripe-gumby
23: [00:35:10] <adrexia> cos it has a special attribute
24: [00:35:23] <adrexia> "type": "silverstripe-theme",
25: [00:35:33] <adrexia> https://github.com/adrexia/silverstripe-gumby/blob/master/composer.json
26: [00:36:05] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: so it checks against silverstripe composer and puts the files there?
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28: [00:36:20] <adrexia> yeah, something like that :)
29: [00:36:26] <adrexia> much like the modules check
30: [00:36:39] <Ryan-Toast> coolio.
31: [00:37:03] <adrexia> without that or "type": "silverstripe-module", everything goes into the vender folder
32: [00:38:07] <adrexia> though the usefulness of installing themes through composer is debateable
33: [00:38:22] <adrexia> given you usually want to edit the themes directly
34: [00:44:34] <simon_w|air> And that the SS3-compat themes are crap
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36: [00:47:06] <Ryan-Toast> Lol, was nevcer going to use one, just wanted to see how they’re installed so I can copy the workflow.
37: [00:48:52] <adrexia> simon_w|air, disagree. there just arent many
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39: [00:49:19] <simon_w|air> adrexia, so there's a non-crap one?
40: [00:49:24] <adrexia> though depends what you are after. Is there really a market for fully built themes?
41: [00:49:46] <adrexia> generally we just want a starting point for somwething else
42: [00:50:59] <adrexia> for instance I would even prefer to use the cwp default theme to _any_ of the 2.4 themes
43: [00:51:34] <adrexia> because its a framework not just a single css file with everything in it hard coded by id
44: [00:52:42] <matt-in-a-hat> Are the composer dependencies in the vendor folder automatically loaded when running QueuedJobs tasks?
45: [00:52:59] <simon_w|air> matt-in-a-hat, should be
46: [00:56:03] <Kingy> https://twitter.com/BishopTamaki/status/539128090597666816
47: [00:56:07] <Kingy> can something explain that pelase
48: [00:56:09] <Kingy> please
49: [00:56:12] <Kingy> someone*
50: [00:56:51] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: god made it rain
51: [00:56:56] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Cults, brah.
52: [00:57:01] <adrexia> well twitter works a little like fb wall. It's a social media platform that lets people say stupid stuff in public
53: [00:57:08] <adrexia> :P
54: [00:58:03] <Kingy> "that's like laying out a feast for the starving and denying them a taste."
55: [00:59:02] <simon_w|air> Ooh, that was in the bible. Then the poor ended up in heaven feasting, and the rich guy didn't. Sucked to be him.
56: [00:59:38] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: there is a going to be a CS:GO invitational tournament at the X-games in Aspen lol random
57: [00:59:52] <Colin[pi]> o rly?
58: [00:59:59] <Kingy> 23-25 Jan
59: [01:02:12] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: will fnatic be there so I can punch them in the dick?
60: [01:02:34] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: haha don't know
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62: [01:04:44] <Colin[pi]> speaking of which, I might watch some of the final demos during lunch
63: [01:05:03] <JeremyRoundill> Top 8 CS:GO teams from North America and Europe.
64: [01:05:10] <JeremyRoundill> Which is to say no NA teams will be invited.
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68: [01:13:51] <antmas> simon_w|air: did you drop a bible reference?
69: [01:13:52] <antmas> wait
70: [01:13:56] <antmas> that was Kingy :P
71: [01:14:56] <simon_w|air> antmas, I could though :p
72: [01:16:23] <antmas> simon_w|air: keep it PG13, we don't need no fire and brimstone in here Mr Proctor :P
73: [01:16:50] <simon_w|air> antmas, damn, was just about to describe some of the incest :p
74: [01:17:39] <antmas> wincest
75: [01:17:58] <simon_w|air> Got their father drunk, raped him and got pregnant.
76: [01:18:04] <simon_w|air> Hmm, kinda sounds like Game of Thrones
77: [01:18:28] <antmas> is that Sodom and Gomora or something related to that?
78: [01:18:35] <antmas> (spelling)
79: [01:18:40] <simon_w|air> It's after that
80: [01:18:49] <simon_w|air> Is where they ran away from
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82: [01:18:56] <antmas> ah yip, I remember
83: [01:19:15] <simon_w|air> Ah Genesis, good times
84: [01:19:17] <antmas> wish I did some biblical studies, so much metal shit in there
85: [01:24:49] <antmas> anyone here bought a house with help from kiwisaver?
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88: [01:27:58] <hailwood> Hey guys, is there any way to stop SS from calling populateDefaults() when running /dev/build? or any kind of constant/env var that gets set when it's running? as part of my populateDefaults() method I generate a unique code, which checks the database to ensure it's unique - which obviously doesn't work when running /dev/build
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90: [01:29:35] <Stomach> do that in onBeforeWrite instead
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92: [01:31:44] <Stomach> if (!$this->UniqueCode) $unique = false; while(!$unique) { $uniqueCode = rand(); if (!UniqueObject::get()->filter('UniqueCode', $uniqueCode)->count(); $unique = true; } $this->UniqueCode = $uniqueCode;
93: [01:31:46] <Stomach> or something
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96: [01:38:02] <antmas> op
97: [01:38:08] <antmas> wrong board :P
98: [01:42:36] <hailwood> Stomach, Ignore the horrible indentation - gist does not like tabs - but do while is my friend :D https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0425832761ae741d8a80
99: [01:43:13] <Stomach> awesome :)
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101: [01:48:49] <JeremyRoundill> http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/63708730/Metallers-ruin-folk-show
102: [01:48:51] <JeremyRoundill> Hahahahaha
103: [01:49:11] <JeremyRoundill> Baby boomers getting maaaaad!
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105: [02:06:40] <Colin[pi]> JeremyRoundill: lol that's pretty funny
106: [02:07:04] <JeremyRoundill> I bought a Seekers record once.
107: [02:07:08] <JeremyRoundill> I was sooooo disappointed.
108: [02:09:15] <veb> I'm not happy that KDC is still being screwed over with barely a charge.
109: [02:09:27] <veb> We've taken 10M off the guy, and for what? To what end?
110: [02:09:40] <Colin[pi]> veb: for the lulz
111: [02:09:45] <Kingy> fuck john key though right
112: [02:09:46] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah
113: [02:09:48] <veb> He's a chubby boy, he's in our faces, but he recognised this when the party he started lost. Since then he's not really done that.
114: [02:10:01] <JeremyRoundill> I don't like KDC, but we're doing the wrong thing.
115: [02:10:01] <veb> I'm annoyed by my fellow countrymen who are being all "deport the fat fuck!"
116: [02:10:04] <veb> But why?
117: [02:10:17] <veb> I respect him for what he's done since the whole saga, keeping his wits.
118: [02:10:22] <veb> I don't need to *like* him.
119: [02:10:32] <veb> WTF New Zealand
120: [02:10:45] * veb arrests Kingy and says the US wants you, we need to have a court case.
121: [02:10:50] <veb> 10m later...
122: [02:10:52] <veb> ffs
123: [02:10:58] <veb> justice much >:{
124: [02:11:08] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah.
125: [02:11:17] <JeremyRoundill> We've got these crazy justice boners going on.
126: [02:11:27] <JeremyRoundill> For no flippin' reason.
127: [02:11:37] <antmas> yeah he's a big dickhead who attempted to use a politcal party to improve his image
128: [02:11:50] <veb> antmas: like everybody else!
129: [02:11:56] <veb> but... he has since realised that.
130: [02:11:58] <antmas> exactly
131: [02:12:13] <veb> I'm extremely unhappy to be honest. This is a copyright infringement issue for gods sake. They tried to look into money laundering. found nothing. terrorism. nothing.
132: [02:12:17] <antmas> doesn't matter if he realised that after the fack
133: [02:12:19] <veb> nothing sticks! what the fuck are they doing?
134: [02:12:20] <antmas> fact*
135: [02:12:23] <veb> antmas: yes it does.
136: [02:12:37] <antmas> the fact he admitted a mistake after the fact?
137: [02:12:52] <JeremyRoundill> I didn't like the Internet party because it detracted somewhat from the integrity of a vote for Mana.
138: [02:12:57] <antmas> he clearly knew what he was doing
139: [02:13:11] <antmas> admitting guilt doesn't count for much when that guilt was pretty obvious
140: [02:13:23] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: exactly
141: [02:13:44] <antmas> I don't agree with the way they're treating him
142: [02:14:24] <antmas> but I also don't agree with the way he treated fellow politicians, even those under his financial wing
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144: [02:15:57] <simon_w|air> At least he helped point out just how shit Assange is :p
145: [02:16:35] <antmas> haha indeed
146: [02:18:17] <JeremyRoundill> +1
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150: [02:19:02] <veb> FFF
151: [02:19:06] <antmas> also helped prove that no one really cares about the NSA spying
152: [02:19:30] <simon_w|air> Most annoying thing was when he started trying to do his own PR without understanding the NZ public
153: [02:19:51] <veb> imo, he probably does more so than JK, no?
154: [02:20:08] <veb> he was a victim of severe propaganda imo
155: [02:20:19] <veb> people liked him, then suddenly out of nowhere the tide turned
156: [02:20:26] <veb> and everyone kept saying the same shit
157: [02:20:30] <veb> it was like a hivemind
158: [02:20:33] <antmas> yeah he was, but was also a massive pusher of propaganda
159: [02:20:38] <veb> felt like Reddit chasing down the wrong person
160: [02:20:47] <veb> all of this doesn't matter
161: [02:20:51] <veb> this country is treating him wrong.
162: [02:21:02] <veb> those antics mean nothing in regards to this
163: [02:21:23] <antmas> do you think the same treatment would be thrust upon someone if they were kiwi?
164: [02:21:41] <spronk2> hey Snowman23, can i do a lightning talk at a local sec meetup and use your ssh > 1024 exploit ?
165: [02:21:50] <veb> antmas: no
166: [02:21:51] <JeremyRoundill> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpuhKwNgv8
167: [02:22:00] <veb> antmas: you cannot deport a citizen
168: [02:22:00] <antmas> veb: I do
169: [02:22:08] <antmas> not the deportation thing
170: [02:22:12] <antmas> just the vilification
171: [02:22:17] <veb> but that's why he's in court
172: [02:22:24] <Kingy> veb: you can revoke the citizenship then they can
173: [02:22:34] <veb> Kingy: imagine if they did that
174: [02:22:37] <veb> would receive a lot of fucks
175: [02:22:50] <veb> people would be really unhappy IMO
176: [02:22:50] <simon_w|air> veb, he's in court for extradition, not deportation
177: [02:22:57] <veb> eh, I knew I used the wrong word.
178: [02:22:58] <antmas> simon_w|air: this veb
179: [02:23:00] <veb> that's the one thanks simon_w|air
180: [02:23:19] <simon_w|air> Which can happen to citizens
181: [02:23:20] <veb> Kingy: finally incorporated today :-)
182: [02:23:26] <veb> I have a certification etc
183: [02:23:31] <antmas> but if he's in trouble with another country's laws, should we not be obliged to hand him over?
184: [02:23:33] <Kingy> nice nice
185: [02:23:36] <veb> antmas: fuck no
186: [02:23:38] <veb> the US wouldn't
187: [02:23:47] <veb> if they wouldn't, then why should we?
188: [02:23:59] <JeremyRoundill> We have extradition agreements with some countries.
189: [02:24:02] <antmas> veb: because that's hypcritical?
190: [02:24:05] <JeremyRoundill> Which we'd be obliged to uphold.
191: [02:24:25] <JeremyRoundill> He's not in contravention of laws we have in common with the US.
192: [02:24:34] <veb> honestly, a company here in NZ couldn't send the FBI to a person in the US and then extradite him
193: [02:24:42] <veb> it just would never happen
194: [02:24:45] <JeremyRoundill> And it's unlikely he's in contravention of US law too.
195: [02:24:56] <veb> the whole thing boggles the mind
196: [02:25:03] <JeremyRoundill> veb: Actually, they could.
197: [02:25:11] <veb> I'd like to see that happen then.
198: [02:25:30] <JeremyRoundill> veb: Vodafone has the GCSB's ear and the GCSB works arm in arm with the NSA.
199: [02:25:41] <veb> I guess I'm a lone wolf in my thinking. I just find the whole thing awful.
200: [02:25:46] <JeremyRoundill> They'd be able to raid a place in the US.
201: [02:25:49] <veb> antmas: I guess you're right, maybe they would for a kiwi.
202: [02:25:54] <veb> antmas: and that's just sad. :(
203: [02:25:57] <JeremyRoundill> Not even a kiwi.
204: [02:26:02] <JeremyRoundill> Just anyone.
205: [02:26:12] <JeremyRoundill> It's fairly unlikely, but the relationships are there.
206: [02:26:17] <veb> I'm replying to him about whether a Kiwi would receive the same treatment as KDC.
207: [02:26:26] <veb> and as hard as it is to say so, he's probably right.
208: [02:26:26] <JeremyRoundill> Ahh
209: [02:26:28] <JeremyRoundill> My bad :D
210: [02:26:37] <antmas> yeah to be perfectly fair I don't think whether you're a national or not should matter
211: [02:26:47] <veb> makes me feel real proud to live here. not.
212: [02:27:02] <veb> antmas: sort of why I'd like the case to go south, and for him to be tried _here_
213: [02:27:11] <veb> there's no reason why we can't
214: [02:27:23] <antmas> yeah same here
215: [02:27:26] <Kingy> why would he be tried here though
216: [02:27:27] <veb> I do think the High Court is fair... sometimes.
217: [02:27:30] <Kingy> hasn't done anything wrong here
218: [02:27:32] <veb> Kingy: someone's suing him.
219: [02:27:35] <antmas> more for the reason to highlight how this country has no idea how to run itself
220: [02:27:35] <Kingy> oh
221: [02:27:39] <veb> they should be able to do that here, not in the US
222: [02:27:41] <Kingy> i thought u were talking about the US thing
223: [02:27:54] <veb> that's why they want to extradite him
224: [02:28:00] <Kingy> ok i was right
225: [02:28:04] <veb> because he was sued by a Hollywood agency I guess
226: [02:28:10] <Kingy> so yeah there isn't anything for him to be tried on _here_
227: [02:28:20] <veb> so if they want to sue what his business did, they can do that here.
228: [02:28:23] <veb> where he resides
229: [02:28:28] <antmas> yeah they can't try him here
230: [02:28:35] <veb> then they should fuck off
231: [02:28:36] <veb> :p
232: [02:28:39] <antmas> but he should be tried somewhere
233: [02:28:49] <Kingy> the thing is
234: [02:28:55] <Kingy> as cool as the guy may be
235: [02:28:58] <veb> it's like a big company taking offense to a blog post Kingy wrote and extraditing him
236: [02:28:58] <antmas> I don't want potential criminals to come here so they can get away from their problems
237: [02:29:03] <Kingy> mega upload was totally a place to share movies/songs
238: [02:29:09] <Kingy> and errrone knew that
239: [02:29:18] <veb> Kingy: so?
240: [02:29:18] <JeremyRoundill> As is Youtube.
241: [02:29:21] <veb> ^
242: [02:29:22] <JeremyRoundill> That's the precedent.
243: [02:29:27] <UncleCheese> is this about Kim?
244: [02:29:32] <JeremyRoundill> Because this battle's been fought before.
245: [02:29:34] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: ye
246: [02:29:36] <Kingy> veb: so why can't hollywood sue him
247: [02:29:36] <antmas> UncleCheese: yarp
248: [02:29:38] <UncleCheese> what happened?
249: [02:29:43] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/BhA29.gif
250: [02:29:47] <veb> Kingy: they should be able to, here.
251: [02:29:49] <veb> IMO
252: [02:29:54] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: lol
253: [02:29:56] <veb> If they want to take him to court, take him to court... here.
254: [02:30:05] <veb> If our courts say "gtfo"
255: [02:30:05] <Kingy> your opinion doesn't really count unfortunately lol
256: [02:30:08] <veb> then that's it.
257: [02:30:11] <Kingy> mega and their servers where in the states weren't they?
258: [02:30:25] <Kingy> were*
259: [02:30:25] <veb> not all of them iirc
260: [02:30:30] <antmas> not all no
261: [02:30:57] <veb> Also, MegaUpload did actually do stuff about takedown requests too
262: [02:31:17] <veb> it was their shitty architecture that didn't always remove all the copies
263: [02:31:24] <veb> still, it's illegal to steal copyright in NZ
264: [02:31:35] <antmas> yeah but telling some people 'hey bro, someone is a bit worried about your rips being on here. Just sayin'
265: [02:31:38] <antmas> isn't really enough
266: [02:31:40] <veb> I have no idea what the full list of shit they're trying to remove
267: [02:31:51] <veb> antmas: eh, that's what YT is like
268: [02:31:57] <antmas> YT?
269: [02:32:00] <antmas> oh youtube
270: [02:32:00] <veb> yout00b
271: [02:32:01] <antmas> :P
272: [02:32:21] <antmas> yeah it's all a bit retarded
273: [02:32:33] <veb> sorry folks, just don't like the idea of someone being able to sue someone in another country.. and get them extradited to the host country.
274: [02:32:50] <veb> courts can work together too, you know.
275: [02:33:01] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah
276: [02:33:01] <UncleCheese> veb you would if you got screwed by someone in another country
277: [02:33:04] <veb> and the fact that he hasn't even got so much as a charge laid against him, sucks.
278: [02:33:21] <JeremyRoundill> veb: That's why extradition agreements are complicated.
279: [02:33:30] <veb> most countries have similar laws.
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281: [02:33:43] <veb> so if I got something stolen in another country, that's theft... illegal everywhere.
282: [02:33:43] <JeremyRoundill> veb: For instance, extraditing this Philip Smith character was a good thing.
283: [02:33:54] <JeremyRoundill> veb: Extraditing KDC is a bad thing.
284: [02:33:55] <veb> he entered a country illegally.
285: [02:34:04] <antmas> not really
286: [02:34:06] <veb> KDC is here legally, has not broken any laws
287: [02:34:19] <veb> antmas: didn't declare, wrong name or something
288: [02:34:24] <antmas> oh right
289: [02:34:24] <JeremyRoundill> veb: He left NZ illegally.
290: [02:34:26] <antmas> yes, sorry nvm
291: [02:34:35] <veb> JeremyRoundill: right you are!
292: [02:34:38] <JeremyRoundill> veb: Entered Brazil on a current and valid passport with correct details.
293: [02:34:40] <Colin[pi]> y'all know there is no winning this argument right?
294: [02:34:45] <antmas> personally I don't think we should have had PS extradited
295: [02:34:50] * Colin[pi] remembers the last KDC shitfest
296: [02:34:50] <veb> JeremyRoundill: and spelled Brisbane wrong.
297: [02:34:50] <antmas> at least not from Brazil
298: [02:34:59] <veb> Colin[pi]: no there's not.
299: [02:35:03] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: yeah what we say and what we think really doesn't mean shit :P
300: [02:35:11] <JeremyRoundill> veb: *Brizbin
301: [02:35:17] <veb> Colin[pi]: I just wanted to put in my dismay for people who think extraditing him is a great idea
302: [02:35:17] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: that's why I choose apathy
303: [02:35:18] <Colin[pi]> lol
304: [02:35:20] <Ryan-Toast> I just don’t want nz to become any more of a American bumboy than it already is.
305: [02:35:26] <veb> :)
306: [02:35:36] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: hey, at least it's less Brittish than ever ;)
307: [02:35:41] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: we're no Australia
308: [02:36:01] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: “Emergency Terrorism bill” hmm, sounds familiar.
309: [02:36:08] <Colin[pi]> hahaha yeah AU is so far up US' bum you can see Abbott tickle Obama's tonsils
310: [02:36:35] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: "ohh Georgy dubbyaa *choking sounds*"
311: [02:36:41] <Colin[pi]> that said, they did disagree on environmental policies ;P
312: [02:36:46] <Colin[pi]> in that ours are retarded
313: [02:37:21] <antmas> I want to go somewhere like Sweden, or Switzerland
314: [02:37:23] <Ryan-Toast> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YQ9_2K2_z3A
315: [02:37:36] <antmas> get paid way too much money and play CS 24/7
316: [02:37:44] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I think Finland is supposed to be one of the best places to live
317: [02:37:59] * r_hector quit (Quit: Leaving.)
318: [02:38:10] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: Newsroom is only good for about 3-4 episodes each season btw
319: [02:38:25] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: the rest is relationship tripe
320: [02:38:31] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Lem.
321: [02:38:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah I her that too
322: [02:38:48] <antmas> hear*
323: [02:39:39] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I might be thinking of Norway
324: [02:39:50] <Colin[pi]> Norway has been ranked the highest eleven times"
325: [02:39:54] <antmas> holy shit Sweden has 18 months paid leave each time you have a sprog
326: [02:39:56] <Colin[pi]> on the Human Development Index
327: [02:39:57] <antmas> o.O
328: [02:42:15] <UncleCheese> antmas also, it's distributable between parents
329: [02:42:24] <UncleCheese> dad gets 12 months, or something
330: [02:42:31] <UncleCheese> and you can use it over the course of five years
331: [02:42:39] <antmas> UncleCheese: that is amazing
332: [02:42:52] <antmas> compared to an optional 2 weeks for NZ Dad's
333: [02:42:56] <antmas> fuck that noise
334: [02:43:02] * glenn-bautista has joined #silverstripe
335: [02:43:09] <UncleCheese> socialism only works when you have a really, really tight immigration policy
336: [02:43:18] <UncleCheese> antmas *unpaid
337: [02:44:05] <antmas> UncleCheese: wait, it's unpaid?
338: [02:44:07] <UncleCheese> my brother-in-law married a swede, lived in the country 15 years thereafter before being granted dual citizenship
339: [02:44:15] <UncleCheese> yeah, man.. all paternal leave in NZ is unpaid
340: [02:44:44] <antmas> UncleCheese: mine was paid
341: [02:44:48] <UncleCheese> hmm
342: [02:44:49] <antmas> but only 2 weeks
343: [02:44:54] <antmas> which is bs EITHER way
344: [02:45:12] <UncleCheese> oh wow
345: [02:45:14] <UncleCheese> look at this
346: [02:45:21] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah because dads don't need to do shit for a new baby, amirite?
347: [02:45:24] <Colin[pi]> :\
348: [02:45:25] <antmas> 18 months paid parental leave WITH job security? HOLY SHITBALLS
349: [02:45:33] <UncleCheese> going up to 18 weeks
350: [02:45:37] <antmas> Colin[pi]: nope, totes usless :(
351: [02:46:04] <UncleCheese> whoa
352: [02:46:07] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I got yelled at in hospital when I went to assist my wife during breastfeeding because there was another woman in there
353: [02:46:07] <UncleCheese> a paternal tax credit?!
354: [02:46:20] <antmas> UncleCheese: in Sweden?
355: [02:46:23] <JeremyRoundill> Isn't this part of Sue Moroney's bill?
356: [02:46:25] <UncleCheese> of course.. because breasts are always sexual
357: [02:46:28] <Colin[pi]> antmas: ...who I had already asked about coming in and she said it's fine
358: [02:46:33] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: I was so annoyed
359: [02:46:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah that sucks
360: [02:46:41] <UncleCheese> there's no other purpose for a breast than to be fucking sexy porn
361: [02:46:41] <Colin[pi]> she's like "YOU CANT GO IN THERE!!!!"
362: [02:46:43] <antmas> badum tish
363: [02:46:48] <Colin[pi]> (the nurse)
364: [02:47:00] <Colin[pi]> I'm like "ummmm.... I've asked the other woman through the curtain, it's fine?"
365: [02:47:16] <Colin[pi]> the other woman is like "yeah.. uh it's no problem, seriously"
366: [02:47:30] <antmas> UncleCheese: is that tax credit thing for NZ or Sweden?
367: [02:47:36] <UncleCheese> no, nz
368: [02:47:45] <UncleCheese> i'm sure sweden has one too
369: [02:47:47] <UncleCheese> http://www.dol.govt.nz/er/holidaysandleave/parentalleave/
370: [02:47:58] <UncleCheese> For babies born on or after 1 April 2015, the Government will increase the parental tax credit from $150 a week to $220 a week, and extend the payment period from eight weeks to 10 weeks.
371: [02:49:02] <antmas> nice
372: [02:49:40] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah, National fucked over that bill.
373: [02:50:10] <JeremyRoundill> Sue Moroney wrote a really good one, but National delayed the bill as hard as they can. Effectively filibustered it until after the election.
374: [02:50:16] <JeremyRoundill> Then basically said they wouldn't support it.
375: [02:50:32] <JeremyRoundill> So Labour was forced to re-write it into something *way* more moderate.
376: [02:50:46] <UncleCheese> whoa, they fillabuster here?
377: [02:50:58] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah
378: [02:51:02] <UncleCheese> who was like, "you know what system really has it down? the americans.. let's rock that shit."
379: [02:51:49] <JeremyRoundill> Basically, they stacked the schedule of member's bills with debates so they didn't have to have the final debate and vote on Moroney's bill.
380: [02:52:16] <JeremyRoundill> And decent parental leave was completely riding on the outcome of the election.
381: [02:52:54] <JeremyRoundill> Sue Maroney was going to make it 6 months of paid parental leave
382: [02:53:01] <JeremyRoundill> Up from 14 months
383: [02:53:04] <JeremyRoundill> *14 weeks
384: [02:53:10] <UncleCheese> Did you guys know that Liberia and Swaziland have no maternity leave?
385: [02:53:16] <UncleCheese> There's one other country... what is it..
386: [02:53:19] <UncleCheese> oh yeah.. the USA.
387: [02:53:37] <JeremyRoundill> Hahaha
388: [02:53:41] <JeremyRoundill> Jeez
389: [02:53:58] <antmas> Sweden sounds amazing guis
390: [02:53:59] <antmas> :O
391: [02:54:07] <JeremyRoundill> Let's all move there.
392: [02:54:11] <JeremyRoundill> We can take SilverStripe with us.
393: [02:54:18] <antmas> Silverstripe.se
394: [02:54:30] <antmas> or is it .de?
395: [02:54:31] <JeremyRoundill> Heck, SilverStripe will probably work better in Sweden.
396: [02:54:32] <antmas> I forget
397: [02:54:33] <UncleCheese> .se
398: [02:54:35] <JeremyRoundill> de is Germany
399: [02:54:39] <antmas> ah right
400: [02:54:44] <UncleCheese> there's a guy there, Marcus Dalgren
401: [02:54:55] <UncleCheese> I've done a fair amount of work for him, and he was always keen to have me come out there
402: [02:55:05] <UncleCheese> plus we have family in SE
403: [02:55:22] <UncleCheese> but believe it or not, the language barrier is a big issue
404: [02:55:27] <antmas> the only difference is buying a house is better in NZ
405: [02:55:33] <UncleCheese> you don't think so because everyone there speaks perfect english
406: [02:55:42] <antmas> everything else in terms of cost of liviing is better in Swe
407: [02:55:49] <veb> how the fuck did you confuse .de and .se
408: [02:55:51] <veb> how DARE you
409: [02:55:58] * veb slaps antmas with a wild Kingy
410: [02:56:12] <antmas> veb: :|
411: [02:56:15] <UncleCheese> who said the housing market is better in NZ?!?!?
412: [02:56:17] <veb> sorry. he's fat.
413: [02:56:20] <veb> fat ass Kingy
414: [02:56:21] <veb> :D
415: [02:56:28] * veb ducks
416: [02:56:44] <antmas> UncleCheese: in terms of price/sq meter
417: [02:56:48] <UncleCheese> NZ has the worst housing situation in the world.. you couldn't invent a more fucked up system
418: [02:56:51] <antmas> UncleCheese: literally no one
419: [02:57:00] <UncleCheese> yeah, it's a real deal
420: [02:57:05] <antmas> alrighty, home time LD
421: [02:57:07] <antmas> :D
422: [02:57:09] <antmas> later all o/
423: [02:57:10] <UncleCheese> $500,000 for 50sqm
424: [02:57:13] <Colin[pi]> antmas: already?
425: [02:57:14] <Colin[pi]> slacker
426: [02:57:15] <Colin[pi]> :P
427: [02:57:18] <antmas> :P
428: [02:57:21] <Colin[pi]> cya man
429: [02:57:29] <Kingy> going to come and visit me veb
430: [02:58:06] <Kingy> lazy
431: [02:58:47] <veb> when?
432: [02:58:49] <veb> why?
433: [02:58:49] <veb> how?
434: [02:58:51] <veb> why?
435: [02:59:08] <Olliepop> $controller->customise(...)->renderWith->(...) is only outputting '1' :( any idea why? $controller->redirect is working, and var_dump shows that the HTML is all good
436: [03:08:52] <veb> oh hey Kingy
437: [03:08:58] <veb> didn't realise you were around
438: [03:08:59] <veb> sup?
439: [03:09:05] <Kingy> not much
440: [03:09:07] <Kingy> just workin
441: [03:09:17] <veb> real?
442: [03:09:19] <veb> me too!
443: [03:09:25] <veb> but in front of the fire
444: [03:09:26] <veb> on the couch
445: [03:09:34] <Kingy> fire?!
446: [03:10:17] <veb> cold as
447: [03:11:15] <Kingy> first day of summer and all
448: [03:14:10] <veb> aye
449: [03:23:48] <Tanger> Booo summer!
450: [03:24:11] <Colin[pi]> dont think this book store would last too long in NZ: http://i.imgur.com/wRvcgwb.jpg
451: [03:24:15] <Kingy> so
452: [03:24:25] <Kingy> for an extra 20kgs on Emirates it costs $1100AUD
453: [03:24:35] <veb> trolol
454: [03:24:38] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: damn
455: [03:24:40] <veb> should fly Singapore Airlines
456: [03:24:46] <Kingy> same thing on AirNZ costs $50
457: [03:24:47] <veb> or sell everything
458: [03:24:49] <veb> and buy it again
459: [03:25:03] <Kingy> yeah
460: [03:25:08] <Kingy> but it's no cheaper over there
461: [03:25:17] <veb> shrug. live without a couch
462: [03:25:18] <Kingy> so selling/buying is going to be a big net loss
463: [03:25:19] <veb> or a table
464: [03:25:26] <Kingy> veb: Oh nah we get all that shit free
465: [03:25:31] <Kingy> i'm talking about my computer
466: [03:25:31] <Kingy> lol
467: [03:25:35] <veb> fuck it
468: [03:25:38] <veb> buy a laptop
469: [03:25:43] <Kingy> and xbox
470: [03:25:44] <Kingy> and htpc
471: [03:25:47] <veb> can i suggest a mbp?
472: [03:25:49] <veb> no fuck the xbox
473: [03:25:50] <veb> and the htpc
474: [03:25:53] <veb> use laptop
475: [03:26:03] <veb> your shit is costing us, Kingy.
476: [03:26:05] <veb> /gf
477: [03:26:20] <Kingy> she said that already lol
478: [03:26:23] <veb> I know.
479: [03:26:25] <veb> she told me
480: [03:26:26] <veb> last night.
481: [03:26:29] <veb> IN YOUR BED
482: [03:26:33] <Kingy> ohhh good burn
483: [03:26:38] <veb> with your mum
484: [03:26:41] <Kingy> buy my car cunt
485: [03:26:47] <veb> nah
486: [03:26:53] <veb> in fact mine broke
487: [03:26:53] <Kingy> ill drive it down to you
488: [03:27:02] <veb> don't have money to buy it
489: [03:27:04] <Kingy> (actually would)
490: [03:27:06] <veb> contract aint done yet
491: [03:32:31] <hailwood> Hey guys, does anyone know about a kind of resizeThenCrop for silverstripe? Basically what I need to do is shrink and image down so the width = 500px, and then crop the height of the image (removing the bottom) so it's no more than 300px high
492: [03:34:35] <veb> hey. Kingy and I are talking here.
493: [03:34:39] <veb> wtf is wrong with you?
494: [03:34:43] <veb> jk
495: [03:34:47] * veb leaves
496: [03:49:37] * Olliepop quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
497: [03:54:25] <Blacklite> Kingy: what's your car
498: [03:54:37] <Kingy> Mazda Axela
499: [03:54:42] <Blacklite> o that's right
500: [03:54:49] <Blacklite> yea sorry, too boring, dont want it :D
501: [03:54:50] <Kingy> buy it :D
502: [03:55:17] <Blacklite> ive already got a boring car
503: [03:55:30] <Blacklite> surely it'd be easy to sell that though:
504: [03:57:02] * jedateach quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
505: [03:58:17] <veb> it hasn't been easy so far
506: [03:58:19] <veb> har har
507: [03:58:42] * irogue_ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
508: [03:58:43] <Blacklite> are you asking for like $50k or something
509: [03:59:11] <veb> like 6k
510: [03:59:44] <Blacklite> kms? engine? manual/auto?
511: [04:00:01] <veb> auto, v12, 18,000k
512: [04:00:07] <veb> wait, sorry I don't know
513: [04:00:16] <Blacklite> lol @ v12 mazda axela
514: [04:00:25] <veb> I too thought it was funny when I wrote it
515: [04:00:28] <veb> so I pressed enter :D
516: [04:00:33] <veb> story of my life
517: [04:00:35] <veb> pressing enter
518: [04:00:39] <Blacklite> you should go into comedy
519: [04:00:50] <veb> heh I am still giggling at a v12 axela
520: [04:00:53] <Blacklite> not everyone can press enter on irc
521: [04:00:58] <Blacklite> you have a gift
522: [04:00:59] <veb> u wot m8?
523: [04:01:03] <veb> i'll reck u
524: [04:01:06] <veb> goddamnit
525: [04:01:10] <veb> i used grammar
526: [04:01:20] <Blacklite> lol
527: [04:02:17] <Kingy> Blacklite: 132k, auto (tiptronic), 1.5L
528: [04:02:20] <Kingy> 7.5k
529: [04:02:27] <Blacklite> ah
530: [04:03:26] <UncleCheese> i am so done with the rental market here
531: [04:03:41] <Kingy> UncleCheese: buy my car and live in it
532: [04:03:43] <Kingy> ample room :)
533: [04:03:49] <UncleCheese> after deciding to push our budget a bit, we finally found a really great place
534: [04:03:52] <UncleCheese> go to see it yesterday
535: [04:03:57] <UncleCheese> half the fucking city turns up
536: [04:04:03] <Blacklite> lol
537: [04:04:05] <Blacklite> chch?
538: [04:04:16] <UncleCheese> toss in our application, we're literally like one in a hundred
539: [04:04:21] <UncleCheese> so ridiculous
540: [04:04:43] <UncleCheese> i hate that people put things on the market for supposedly a fair market price, and you have to compete to get it
541: [04:04:52] <veb> should be a fight to the death imo
542: [04:04:57] <Stomach> just offer more money then UncleCheese
543: [04:04:58] <veb> and not have to pay anything
544: [04:05:02] <UncleCheese> Stomach i did
545: [04:05:06] <Stomach> :D
546: [04:05:07] <Stomach> good man
547: [04:05:08] <UncleCheese> I offered to double the letting fee
548: [04:05:16] <Stomach> haha
549: [04:05:17] <Blacklite> jesus
550: [04:05:17] <veb> :/
551: [04:05:25] <Blacklite> letting fees suck
552: [04:05:38] <UncleCheese> but not the rent.. because what hypocrasy would that be, since i'm bringing legal action against our landlord for doing that to us
553: [04:05:57] <Blacklite> i assume this is auckland or christchurch?
554: [04:05:59] <UncleCheese> .. and you have no idea how they're making their "decision"
555: [04:06:01] <Blacklite> or another country
556: [04:06:02] <UncleCheese> no, wellies
557: [04:06:04] <Blacklite> oh god
558: [04:06:13] <Blacklite> well it's a busy time of the year i guess
559: [04:06:17] <UncleCheese> auckland we would have had to interview in order to submit an application
560: [04:06:24] <UncleCheese> after we passed our blood and urine tests
561: [04:06:27] <Blacklite> lmao
562: [04:06:38] <UncleCheese> i'm so annoyed
563: [04:06:53] <Snowman23> 15:21:42 < spronk2> hey Snowman23, can i do a lightning talk at a local sec meetup and use your ssh > 1024 exploit ?
564: [04:06:54] <UncleCheese> "Hello, I would like to fill your bank account every week. Would you please consider me?"
565: [04:06:56] <Blacklite> most i've ever had the rent raised by is 50%
566: [04:06:56] <Snowman23> sure thing maaaan
567: [04:06:59] <Snowman23> :D
568: [04:07:01] <spronk2> ;D
569: [04:07:07] <Blacklite> but that was from $100 to $150, so...
570: [04:07:11] <UncleCheese> lol
571: [04:07:13] <UncleCheese> whoa...
572: [04:07:17] <Kingy> UncleCheese: Property Brokers ask to see proof of income before you can even LOOK at a place
573: [04:07:31] <UncleCheese> what's Property Brokers?
574: [04:07:38] <Kingy> a rental agency
575: [04:07:42] <UncleCheese> oh
576: [04:07:46] <UncleCheese> well whatever works
577: [04:07:46] <Blacklite> they must get a lot of people who simply can't afford the houses they view
578: [04:07:57] <UncleCheese> i'm so frustrated
579: [04:08:14] <UncleCheese> i wish the bubble would just burst already
580: [04:08:15] <Kingy> best thing that happened to us was my partners old man getting into property valuations
581: [04:08:31] <JeremyRoundill> UncleCheese: 2016, I think dude.
582: [04:08:34] <Kingy> we just walked into the agency and he had a word to the rental manager and got us the flat!
583: [04:08:37] <UncleCheese> but here i am fighting with 100 other people to pay $550 a week for a piece of shit that's just marginally better than the other pieces of shit around it
584: [04:08:44] <JeremyRoundill> UncleCheese: But in saying that, it just climbs to higher peaks after that anyway.
585: [04:08:53] <Kingy> UncleCheese: willing to move out of town a bit?
586: [04:08:59] <Blacklite> we got quinovic managing our house. my best friend's parents own the branch as well
587: [04:09:01] <UncleCheese> no, we're in jville now and we hate it
588: [04:09:15] <Kingy> well to be fair jville is pretty ass
589: [04:09:17] <UncleCheese> if it were somewhere on the train i'd consider it
590: [04:09:24] <UncleCheese> Kingy +1
591: [04:09:28] <Blacklite> my bro just bought a house there
592: [04:09:34] <UncleCheese> sucks dogs
593: [04:09:41] <Kingy> I was in tawa a while, wasn't so bad
594: [04:09:46] <Blacklite> yea, that countdown is pretty much scum
595: [04:09:47] <Kingy> Lower Hutt was great
596: [04:09:50] <UncleCheese> omg
597: [04:09:53] <UncleCheese> i don't go there
598: [04:09:53] <JeremyRoundill> Eww
599: [04:09:54] <JeremyRoundill> Lower Hutt.
600: [04:09:57] <UncleCheese> I literally drive to Tawa
601: [04:10:01] <JeremyRoundill> I lived there, it was terrible.
602: [04:10:01] <Blacklite> lmao
603: [04:10:01] <UncleCheese> i will not go to that countdown
604: [04:10:07] <UncleCheese> seriously
605: [04:10:08] <Blacklite> i would've thought jville was better than tawa
606: [04:10:11] <UncleCheese> have you been in the Warehouse in jville?
607: [04:10:14] <Kingy> UncleCheese: isn't it brand new
608: [04:10:15] <Blacklite> yea
609: [04:10:18] <Blacklite> most useless warehouse ever
610: [04:10:19] <UncleCheese> it's like something out of Chernobyl
611: [04:10:23] <Blacklite> the don't stock anything at all
612: [04:10:27] <UncleCheese> yeah
613: [04:10:31] <Blacklite> ended up driving to the one in town
614: [04:10:35] <UncleCheese> it looks like they abandonned it decades ago
615: [04:10:38] <Blacklite> yep
616: [04:10:45] <Blacklite> much like the rest of jville
617: [04:11:03] <UncleCheese> so if we want to live further out, where is good?
618: [04:11:09] <UncleCheese> i looked at Porirua
619: [04:11:11] <UncleCheese> they've got nice stuff
620: [04:11:14] <UncleCheese> but, man.. that's a haul
621: [04:11:19] <Blacklite> what about newlands area? i've not been there much but there's some nice houses there
622: [04:11:43] <Kingy> UncleCheese: well there are some nice houses in Plimmerton and the surrounding areas on the hill, but that's a long way
623: [04:11:51] <Blacklite> yea, quite the commute
624: [04:11:54] <UncleCheese> indeed
625: [04:11:57] <UncleCheese> might as well be in Pram
626: [04:11:58] <Kingy> but fuck I live in Masterton
627: [04:12:04] <Kingy> anything is less of a commute than that
628: [04:12:17] <UncleCheese> you do?!
629: [04:12:24] <Blacklite> i used to work in lower hutt, got to rent places that were cheap and nice
630: [04:12:26] <UncleCheese> you don't commute to WGT, do you?
631: [04:12:31] <Kingy> UncleCheese: yes
632: [04:12:34] <Blacklite> omg
633: [04:12:35] <UncleCheese> fuck me
634: [04:12:39] <UncleCheese> every day?
635: [04:12:40] <Kingy> only 2 days a week now, but it was 5
636: [04:12:40] <Blacklite> rimutakas every day?
637: [04:12:46] <UncleCheese> surely the train
638: [04:12:48] <Kingy> Blacklite: train goes through them
639: [04:12:51] <Blacklite> ah right
640: [04:13:03] <Blacklite> i couldn't drive that road every day, as much as i like driving
641: [04:13:15] <Kingy> Blacklite: if you had to choose between driving and train you'd drive
642: [04:13:15] <UncleCheese> yeah, replacing your brakes every month
643: [04:13:25] <UncleCheese> never
644: [04:13:28] <UncleCheese> train > driving
645: [04:13:34] <Kingy> you say that
646: [04:13:46] <Kingy> but spending 4 hours per day on one gets old fast
647: [04:13:49] <Blacklite> i live in ngaio - train screeches all the way around the valley
648: [04:13:57] <Blacklite> puts me off it
649: [04:14:00] <UncleCheese> what do you think of living in Masterton? sounds nice
650: [04:14:19] <Kingy> if I was working in Masterton it would'nt be bad
651: [04:14:25] <UncleCheese> $300/wk gets you what $700 would get in Wellington
652: [04:14:26] <Kingy> I prefer smaller towns/cities
653: [04:14:33] <Blacklite> yep
654: [04:14:39] <Kingy> UncleCheese: yep I pay $300 for the biggest 3bdrm house I've lived in
655: [04:14:41] <Kingy> double garage
656: [04:14:43] <UncleCheese> yeah
657: [04:14:47] <Blacklite> if i could work in a small town, i would
658: [04:14:49] <Kingy> a lawn that takes me 30min to mow
659: [04:14:56] <Kingy> FLAT LAND
660: [04:15:01] <Blacklite> yep
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662: [04:15:04] <UncleCheese> it is quite flat out there
663: [04:15:08] <UncleCheese> we'd have to get all new friends
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665: [04:15:22] <UncleCheese> i dunno
666: [04:15:23] <Kingy> only problem is it really is in the middle of nothing
667: [04:15:28] <Kingy> to get to P.N or Wellington
668: [04:15:30] <UncleCheese> it's nice, but it just kind of looks like a lot of America
669: [04:15:35] <Kingy> you have to go over ranges
670: [04:15:50] <Kingy> or 3+ hours to Napier
671: [04:15:56] <Kingy> so it's isolated
672: [04:16:00] <UncleCheese> yeah
673: [04:16:01] <Blacklite> living + working in masterton
674: [04:16:03] <UncleCheese> cool if you like that thing
675: [04:16:06] <Blacklite> i can imagine the morning traffic rush
676: [04:16:18] <Kingy> Blacklite: there is a bit of a rush, it's bigger than you think
677: [04:16:35] <Kingy> obviously not Welly bad because you only have to drive 1% of the distance compared
678: [04:16:49] <Kingy> but you've got 4 different high schools
679: [04:16:56] <UncleCheese> anyone have any tips on standing out next time we apply for something that turns up half the city?
680: [04:17:02] <Kingy> so there are fuckers trying to get to school every bloody direction
681: [04:17:11] <Blacklite> i would've thought it'd be more like this: http://images2.static-bluray.com/reviews/324_5.jpg
682: [04:17:30] <Kingy> replace that with a tractor and yeah maybe
683: [04:17:39] <Blacklite> haha
684: [04:17:40] <Kingy> UncleCheese: having good references helps
685: [04:17:48] <UncleCheese> yup
686: [04:18:14] <Blacklite> i applied for a 2 bedroom place with garage and got a reply next morning, I never followed up cause i got a better deal. but i was applying in the middle of the year
687: [04:18:22] <Blacklite> i think that is key
688: [04:18:27] <Kingy> yeah that's the issue
689: [04:18:40] <Kingy> anywayy im going home
690: [04:18:57] <UncleCheese> blegh
691: [04:18:59] <Blacklite> i gotta take the loser cruiser, so i gotta wait
692: [04:19:09] <UncleCheese> the butter box
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699: [04:52:02] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23!
700: [04:52:13] <Colin[pi]> where's the xmas decorations on the SS site? :D
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702: [04:58:32] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: ...
703: [04:58:34] <Snowman23> Tempting.... tempting
704: [04:58:42] <Snowman23> http://www.schillmania.com/projects/snowstorm/
705: [04:59:14] <Colin[pi]> haha I used that on my site one year
706: [05:05:07] <veb> He said he would not address claims Dotcom was spending too much time playing video games because it was a "pointless" claim by the US.
707: [05:05:08] <veb> ...
708: [05:05:13] <veb> wow, that's bullshit.
709: [05:05:21] <veb> why the fuck would that even come up in court?!
710: [05:05:48] <Tanger> THE MAN HAS TOO MUCH FUN!
711: [05:12:53] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: you see this? http://vimeo.com/112681885
712: [05:13:22] <Colin[pi]> (drone footage of Chernobyl)
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714: [05:20:41] <Snowman23> super coool, Colin[pi] :D
715: [05:20:46] <Snowman23> If only you could live there...
716: [05:20:55] <Snowman23> Fun place for a secret base
717: [05:22:33] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: "Get out of here, stalker"
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719: [05:30:48] <Snowman23> :D
720: [05:39:36] <Colin[pi]> 4:40pm and wondering if I should start something else... mmm nah
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724: [06:09:28] * simon_w|air is now Test Manager
725: [06:09:35] * simon_w|air is totally going to let the power go to his head
726: [06:10:01] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: with great power comes great responsibility
727: [06:10:53] <Snowman23> That doesn't sound like a fun job
728: [06:11:00] <Snowman23> Unless it's like... testing wherheter you wanna be a manager
729: [06:11:00] <Snowman23> :
730: [06:11:01] <Snowman23> :D
731: [06:11:05] <Snowman23> And that's not fun mucih either, but power
732: [06:11:19] <simon_w|air> "No tests, won't merge"
733: [06:11:27] <simon_w|air> "Test doesn't cover this edge case, won't merge"
734: [06:11:37] <simon_w|air> "You're Snowman23, won't merge" :D
735: [06:11:55] <veb> test ALL the things.
736: [06:12:02] <veb> even the power.
737: [06:12:09] <veb> turn the power off and see how the app works then!
738: [06:12:18] <veb> if it doesn't, it needs redundancies set up
739: [06:12:33] <simon_w|air> test all THE things
740: [06:13:17] <veb> yes, the THE can be a capital word too
741: [06:13:19] <veb> amazing
742: [06:13:43] <simon_w|air> Stressing different words is great fun
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746: [06:22:38] <veb> I posted that link to my brother who is a prison guard at the prisons he mentioned
747: [06:22:40] <veb> http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/2nw7hj/i_was_recently_released_after_a_4_year_sentence/
748: [06:22:42] <markcl> Almost every thime I do something on my local Silverstripe, I get a "Your session has timed out." message.
749: [06:22:47] <veb> heh...
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754: [06:43:15] <antmas_> evening all
755: [06:43:32] <Snowman23> Evening
756: [06:44:21] <antmas_> Snowman23 o/
757: [06:44:51] <Snowman23> o/
758: [06:53:45] <Colin[pi]> o/
759: [06:53:53] <Colin[pi]> HEIL ANTMAS o/
760: [06:57:02] <antmas_> :D
761: [07:06:25] <antmas_> making a split menu makes me feel weird
762: [07:06:35] <antmas_> like, I know I shouldn't be doing this :P
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793: [09:48:26] <Pyohyupk> stogy
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797: [10:06:15] <kinglozzer> Pyohyupk: stogy?
798: [10:09:08] <Pyohyupk> http://www.tickld.com/x/next-time-someone-says-women-arent-victims-of-harassment-show-them
799: [10:09:19] <Pyohyupk> kinglozzer: yeah, just had some stolen stalin
800: [10:09:20] <Pyohyupk> or something
801: [10:09:33] <Pyohyupk> almond filled cake thing.
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803: [11:06:51] <Pyohyupk> TIL, apparently singleton might be an antipattern.
804: [11:07:30] <Pyohyupk> I think that could only really be a thing if you're using functional programming paradigm approach.
805: [11:08:33] <kinglozzer> Pyohyupk: My go-to is usually this: https://github.com/domnikl/DesignPatternsPHP
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807: [11:32:08] <Eliseth> How do I write data from an array to my database object?
808: [11:38:32] <Eliseth> nevermind
809: [11:38:53] * Eliseth must learn to read documentation...
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811: [11:50:12] <StripedSilver> Hello brethren! Does someone know how I could pull in a paginated list of articles through Ajax via an SS controller?
812: [11:52:02] <kinglozzer> StripedSilver: http://beta.docs.silverstripe.org/en/developer_guides/templates/rendering_templates/
813: [11:52:14] <kinglozzer> 4th & 5th examples :)
814: [11:53:32] <StripedSilver> Awesome!
815: [11:53:47] <StripedSilver> Thanks kinglozzer! I think this should work.
816: [11:55:07] <StripedSilver> I did have one question.
817: [11:55:25] <StripedSilver> Is there a way for me to access a variable passed to the Ajax function?
818: [11:55:38] <StripedSilver> ..or should I directly access the $_ variable?
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820: [11:55:57] <StripedSilver> I'd like to pull in an array lis of articles depending on their category.
821: [11:56:01] <StripedSilver> list*
822: [12:01:39] <kinglozzer> StripedSilver: A request parameter/query string parameter?
823: [12:02:12] <kinglozzer> http://mysite.com/something?CategoryID=4 >>> $this->request->getVar('CategoryID')
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825: [12:10:44] <Pyohyupk> oh gawd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN75im_us4k
826: [12:10:46] <Pyohyupk> lolols
827: [12:12:12] <Pyohyupk> StripedSilver: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-SS_HTTPRequest.html
828: [12:12:21] <Pyohyupk> $this->request on a controller.
829: [12:13:02] <Pyohyupk> StripedSilver: and in case you're not aware: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-PaginatedList.html
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833: [12:49:25] <StripedSilver> Thanks kinglozzer and Pyohyupk!
834: [12:49:30] <StripedSilver> I'm current;y testing it.
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837: [13:26:29] <Copperis> hello
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839: [13:27:38] <Copperis> There's a $ExtraTreeTools variable in CMSMain_TreeView.ss. How could I pass data to it?
840: [13:29:13] <Copperis> a LeftAndMainExtension with a "ExtraTreeTools" method doesn't seem to work
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843: [13:46:26] <Eliseth> Any idea why MyDataObject::get() returns an incomplete array? There's fields in the database not given back. Not using opcache or similar.
844: [14:11:21] <Eliseth> Nevermind, misconfigured system >.<
845: [14:15:54] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: you (usually) don't pass things in to template calls.
846: [14:16:28] <Pyohyupk> is this from an module? can you link to the module?
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848: [14:19:56] <Copperis> Pyohyupk, it's for a module. This one https://github.com/milkyway-multimedia/ss-mwm I saw CMSMain has an "ExtraTreeTools" method with extension support, though I can't get it to work either. Shouldn't an extension to CMSMain with a updateExtraTreeTools($html) method that modifies the $html variable work?
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850: [14:43:35] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: depends on what the hook is trying to call
851: [14:44:20] <Pyohyupk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-CMSMain.html#263
852: [14:44:22] <Pyohyupk> yeah, should work
853: [14:45:02] <Pyohyupk> but... as with most things extension like, they're not supposed to return anything (well, these days they can, but traditionally it was intended as a so called 'side effect' type design.
854: [14:45:23] <Pyohyupk> like passing a pointer in C to be modified, as opposed to copy on pass
855: [14:45:56] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: to that end, your updateExtraTreeTools should take &$html, not $html
856: [14:46:12] <Pyohyupk> this will allow you to modify the contents of html and have it take effect as a result.
857: [14:46:37] <Copperis> oh, so that was the issue
858: [14:46:38] <Copperis> thanks
859: [14:47:10] <Pyohyupk> possibly, not 100% on that. Give it a go and see.
860: [14:48:02] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: the idea originally is that how do you handle the returns of a variable number of calls as a single output? etc. These days Object::extend will return an array of all the returns of each extension's method call.
861: [14:48:43] <Pyohyupk> so the idea of returning a string from an extension hook, you actually end up with array($thatstring) in as the hook's returned output.
862: [14:48:56] <Pyohyupk> (if it's the only extension applied to that hook)
863: [14:49:30] <Pyohyupk> so most things (especially the older hooks) will pass by reference, not content.
864: [14:50:21] <Copperis> so if I understand correctly, $html = $this->extend('updateExtraTreeTools'); would be the proper way to implement the extension now?
865: [14:50:34] <Copperis> the hook that is
866: [14:51:08] <Pyohyupk> again it can get messy though because extensions can be applied in any order, and thus the execution order of any extension's methods aren't always in the same order, etc.
867: [14:51:13] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: well, yes and no.
868: [14:51:54] <Pyohyupk> $html = $this->extend(...); //$html == array('returnvalue1', 'returnvalue2', 'returnvalue3', ...)
869: [14:52:28] <Copperis> yeah, you'd have to combine the result manually
870: [14:52:35] <Pyohyupk> yeah.
871: [14:52:44] <Copperis> and the reference gives the added benefit of accessing already present content
872: [14:52:57] <Pyohyupk> so basically the caveat is that both methodologies get used, and in differing use cases.
873: [14:53:15] <Pyohyupk> but generally you'll see $this->extend();
874: [14:53:27] <Pyohyupk> not very often is it ever $thing = $this->extend()
875: [14:53:43] <Copperis> understood, thanks
876: [14:53:59] <Pyohyupk> cool, so did it work?
877: [14:54:01] <Pyohyupk> was I right?
878: [14:54:27] <Copperis> uh, haven't tested it yet. Will do in a while
879: [14:54:35] <Pyohyupk> ok. :)
880: [14:54:38] <Pyohyupk> pretty sure I am.
881: [14:55:23] <Pyohyupk> Varis: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-Object.html#973-1017
882: [14:55:32] <Pyohyupk> just for interest's sake.
883: [14:56:12] <Copperis> yup, does work, even when extending the parent object
884: [14:56:52] <Pyohyupk> cool :)
885: [14:58:29] <Copperis> now the module can be updated to not to overwrite CMSMain_TreeView.ss
886: [15:00:10] <Copperis> it's used for another module, https://github.com/milkyway-multimedia/ss-social-feed/ which I noticed uses quite good OOP
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889: [15:05:07] <Pyohyupk> Copperis: :< I don't like that phrase.
890: [15:05:42] <Pyohyupk> Something is either OOP or it isn't. It can be _well designed_ or not, IMO. But 'good OOP' just... isn't a thing in my brain.
891: [15:06:07] <Pyohyupk> software can still be well designed when it's not OOP :>
892: [15:06:24] <Copperis> yeah, the intention was to convey that it is well designed OOP :D
893: [15:06:34] <Pyohyupk> :>
894: [15:06:56] <Pyohyupk> Yeah, I get that. But... the dangerous bit is it that it seems lots of people on the internet... don't.
895: [15:07:44] <Pyohyupk> they think OOP is some _thing_ or concept beyond arranging software design into 'objects' that in turn are (supposed to be) representing RL relations.
896: [15:07:51] <Pyohyupk> RL/real life
897: [15:08:07] <Pyohyupk> I read this big write up on it once. I should see if I can find the link.
898: [15:13:48] <Pyohyupk> Ah, yes. If you have a spare couple of hours Copperis, hehe http://www.smashcompany.com/technology/object-oriented-programming-is-an-expensive-disaster-which-must-end
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900: [15:19:58] <Copperis> don't see the benefit of reading all that, but I'll know that exists, thanks
901: [15:25:54] <Pyohyupk> haha, fair comment.
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904: [15:34:01] <Pyohyupk> Hmm, interesting: http://bracha.org/pluggableTypesPosition.pdf
905: [15:34:14] <Pyohyupk> simon__w: might be interested in this (following on from above)
906: [15:34:25] <Pyohyupk> (via: http://blog.jot.fm/2010/08/26/ten-things-i-hate-about-object-oriented-programming/comment-page-2/)
907: [15:49:25] <Pyohyupk> Hmm, I like this!
908: [15:49:28] <Pyohyupk> "OOP is about taming complexity through modeling, but we have not mastered this yet, possibly because we have difficulty distinguishing real and accidental complexity."
909: [15:49:43] <Pyohyupk> (Oscar Nierstrasz, ECOOP 2010)
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914: [16:17:48] <slievr> hello
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917: [16:25:07] <Pyohyupk> hello
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919: [16:32:59] <ThePeach> I'm doing some changes on an old 2.5 installation, does anybody know if It's possible to use xdebug on it?
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921: [16:37:55] <Pyohyupk> sure, why not.
922: [16:38:34] <ThePeach> maybe the code I'm looking at is not executed at all then
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924: [16:41:12] <ThePeach> Pyohyupk: is it possible to disable template caching entirely?
925: [16:41:43] <kinglozzer> ThePeach: Nope, you can force it to rebuild the template cache on each load though
926: [16:41:46] <Pyohyupk> well, no.
927: [16:42:08] <Pyohyupk> leave ?flush on the url and use F5?
928: [16:42:46] <kinglozzer> I've seen devs use this in _config.php: if (Director::isDev()) { SSViewer::flush_template_cache(); }
929: [16:42:58] <Pyohyupk> eww :<
930: [16:43:01] <kinglozzer> Agreed
931: [16:43:04] <ThePeach> yep I'm using ?flush=all
932: [16:43:21] <Pyohyupk> if going that way, probably just use the never used Director::isTest() kinglozzer
933: [16:45:53] <slievr> does anyone know the proper format for updaating a validator to include more fields? as it is driving me insane
934: [16:46:05] <Pyohyupk> what do you mean?
935: [16:46:17] <Pyohyupk> $validator->requireField() ?
936: [16:46:19] <Pyohyupk> idk
937: [16:46:28] <Pyohyupk> why don't you use the API and find out yourself?
938: [16:46:31] <slievr> I have a multiform
939: [16:46:46] <slievr> and I extend a stage of it
940: [16:46:47] <Pyohyupk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-RequiredFields.html
941: [16:46:56] <Pyohyupk> oh you're the chap with the big muckle form.
942: [16:47:24] <slievr> I'm the chap with the big muckle form?
943: [16:47:30] <Pyohyupk> multi stage form
944: [16:47:45] <slievr> has this come up before?
945: [16:47:47] <Pyohyupk> I dunno. Are you asking me or telling me?
946: [16:48:32] <Pyohyupk> addRequiredField() btw
947: [16:48:44] <Pyohyupk> addRequiredField(string $fieldName) btw
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975: [19:17:25] <Kingy> morning chaps
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979: [19:38:10] <antmas> hmmmm
980: [19:38:19] <Kingy> hello my friend
981: [19:38:30] <antmas> I have a metadata field for each page that is supposed to restrict number of child pages displayed
982: [19:38:33] <veb> hmmmm
983: [19:38:35] <antmas> it done not worky!
984: [19:38:41] <veb> I have a metadata field for each page that is supposed to restrict number of child pages displayed
985: [19:38:43] <veb> it done not worky!
986: [19:38:57] * veb sup
987: [19:39:01] <Kingy> antmas: sspaste it brah
988: [19:39:09] <antmas> lemme take a looksie
989: [19:39:17] <Kingy> "The Forest open world survival game"
990: [19:40:16] <Kingy> antmas: doesn't look like dayz is going to be on sale either :(
991: [19:40:21] <veb> Kingy: hands are col
992: [19:40:23] <veb> collld
993: [19:40:29] <Kingy> summer turned up today
994: [19:40:31] <Kingy> jealous?
995: [19:40:48] <veb> nuh uh
996: [19:40:48] <antmas> did someone break veb?
997: [19:40:56] <antmas> Kingy: yeah I guess not :(
998: [19:41:35] <Kingy> I don't think it will until it's out of alpha or beta or whatever it's at now
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1000: [19:45:23] <veb> YAY
1001: [19:45:28] <veb> ran hands under warm water
1002: [19:45:33] <veb> suddenly: hands are freeeeee
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1004: [19:46:32] <Kingy> veb: for 10 minutes lol
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1007: [19:49:45] <simon_w> It's currently 14 degrees here
1008: [19:49:50] <simon_w> Heading for a high of 32
1009: [19:49:59] <simon_w> You can take this stinking summer thing :p
1010: [19:51:04] <Kingy> 11 here
1011: [19:51:10] <Kingy> heading for 16
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1014: [19:57:16] <JeremyRoundill> It's a constant 20 here.
1015: [19:57:20] <JeremyRoundill> Wait, I'm inside.
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1017: [19:57:45] <Kingy> 10pm in Bahrain, winter has started.. still 18deg
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1027: [20:30:46] <Blacklite> dayz ftw
1028: [20:31:17] <Kingy> you play Blacklite?
1029: [20:31:25] <Blacklite> yep - every weekend usually
1030: [20:31:32] <Kingy> nice
1031: [20:31:41] <Blacklite> you gotta play for a few hours at a time, realy
1032: [20:32:34] <Kingy> yeah
1033: [20:32:42] <Kingy> i should probably get the standalone one of these days
1034: [20:34:41] <Ryan-Toast> Don’t bother, it’ll never be fucking finished.
1035: [20:40:19] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: said every indy / early access game ever
1036: [20:40:33] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: .. day-z has been out forever man.
1037: [20:40:47] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: the team is actually inept.
1038: [20:40:54] <antmas> I know, I bought it on day one
1039: [20:41:00] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: wasn't it just 1 guy for ages?
1040: [20:41:02] <Ryan-Toast> Zombies haven’t been touched in forever, lighting is fuuuucked.
1041: [20:41:17] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: yes
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1046: [20:56:30] <r3v3rb_> anyone here have experience of crontab and bash scripting?
1047: [20:56:59] <Kingy> a bit yes
1048: [20:57:11] <antmas> r3v3rb_: I do, but I'm off to a meeting in 5 mins :(
1049: [20:58:21] <JeremyRoundill> r3v3rb_: Yup, what do you wanna know?
1050: [20:59:17] <r3v3rb_> JeremyRoundill: got a shell script that runs unison file sync from terminal
1051: [20:59:48] <r3v3rb_> but adding the script to crontab results in the ‘Usage: chchc’ being output to the log
1052: [21:00:04] <JeremyRoundill> righto.
1053: [21:00:07] <JeremyRoundill> What's the crontab line?
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1055: [21:02:57] <r3v3rb_> JeremyRoundill: think i may be on to something :) I have: ‘/home/user/.unison//root/.unison/default.prf does not exist’ when running the script under sudo and trying to add a path to the default.prf in the root account
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1057: [21:06:33] <JeremyRoundill> Groovy.
1058: [21:06:37] <JeremyRoundill> What's the crontab line?
1059: [21:10:36] <r3v3rb_> cron is */1* * * * /usr/local/bin/backup.sh > ~/unison-cron.log 2>&1
1060: [21:11:10] <r3v3rb_> the log ends up getting the ‘Usage: ‘ text each time or the error if the script isn’t found (when I move it accidentally :))
1061: [21:13:34] * r3v3rb_ wonders if its an ssh problem
1062: [21:14:03] <r3v3rb_> when I get it to run it produces ‘Fatal Error: Lost connection”
1063: [21:14:19] <JeremyRoundill> pastebin your backup.sh
1064: [21:15:43] <r3v3rb_> http://pastebin.com/4YKGc47F
1065: [21:16:09] <JeremyRoundill> Hmm
1066: [21:16:10] <JeremyRoundill> ok
1067: [21:16:16] <r3v3rb_> actually its http://pastebin.com/WXnP5uzv
1068: [21:16:18] <r3v3rb_> lol
1069: [21:16:52] <JeremyRoundill> which user owns the crontab?
1070: [21:16:54] <r3v3rb_> does sudo use the ssh from the currently logged in user?
1071: [21:17:01] <JeremyRoundill> yes
1072: [21:17:08] <r3v3rb_> JeremyRoundill: root afaik default ubuntu install
1073: [21:17:29] <JeremyRoundill> You're logged in as root when you run "crontab -e" ?
1074: [21:17:48] <r3v3rb_> nope, ubuntu user in AZURE
1075: [21:17:49] <r3v3rb_> lol
1076: [21:18:00] <JeremyRoundill> Okay.
1077: [21:18:06] <r3v3rb_> going to try setting up a crontab -e as user
1078: [21:18:08] <r3v3rb_> instead
1079: [21:18:10] <JeremyRoundill> Can that user run unison?
1080: [21:18:14] <r3v3rb_> yar
1081: [21:18:45] <JeremyRoundill> So you've tried manually running /usr/local/bin/backup.sh as that user and it works?
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1084: [21:24:42] <r3v3rb__> flipping heck its finally working thanks JeremyRoundill for the hint ‘user'
1085: [21:24:57] <JeremyRoundill> :D
1086: [21:25:29] <JeremyRoundill> Cron's not super difficult, if you can run the script as a user you can run it in cron.
1087: [21:25:34] <r3v3rb__> thought it should run as root but totally not necessary it seems
1088: [21:25:38] <JeremyRoundill> Just gotta add it to the crontab :)
1089: [21:25:41] <JeremyRoundill> Oh
1090: [21:25:43] <JeremyRoundill> No
1091: [21:25:49] <JeremyRoundill> There are different crontabs for different users
1092: [21:26:13] <JeremyRoundill> You can use the command "sudo crontab -e -u USER" to modify the crontab for a different user.
1093: [21:26:49] <JeremyRoundill> Makes sense too. Imagine running a cron to populate some folder with files from some third party source.
1094: [21:26:55] <r3v3rb__> okay weird
1095: [21:27:14] <r3v3rb__> I used sudo crontab -e and it wouldnt accept the scripts etc
1096: [21:27:20] <JeremyRoundill> If that third party decides to give you a bunch of dodgy path names and your script isn't written to handle them, you'd want a restricted user to be running the script.
1097: [21:27:27] <r3v3rb__> so I used just ‘crontab -e’ and now it does?
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1099: [21:27:37] <Blacklite> sudo crontab -e would edit root's crontab
1100: [21:27:42] <r3v3rb__> yup
1101: [21:27:45] <JeremyRoundill> Oh, does it?
1102: [21:27:50] <r3v3rb__> indeed
1103: [21:27:54] <r3v3rb__> v.strange
1104: [21:27:58] <Blacklite> it makes sense
1105: [21:28:02] <JeremyRoundill> I usually don't mess with the root crontab.
1106: [21:28:16] <Blacklite> i run mysql backups under root, that's about it
1107: [21:28:40] <JeremyRoundill> I don't even do that.
1108: [21:28:42] <r3v3rb__> fair enough, it works thats all thats important at the moment
1109: [21:28:52] <r3v3rb__> sudo cron will be left alone
1110: [21:29:06] <JeremyRoundill> But then I don't do mysql backups, I leave that to the server guys :D
1111: [21:30:06] <r3v3rb__> that’s my next task tomorrow - automated mysqldump to file and scp to another server here in the office
1112: [21:30:33] <Blacklite> i run mysql backups under root cause i need to log in as mysql root as well
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1114: [21:31:46] <Blacklite> and i prefer not to do that on a normal user
1115: [21:31:51] <r3v3rb__> tomorrow is also time to replicate the load balanced server in vmware
1116: [21:32:00] <JeremyRoundill> True
1117: [21:33:02] <r3v3rb__> i gtg, thanks for the hint again JeremyRoundill catch you all tomorrow maybe during the day - not 9 at night!
1118: [21:33:13] <JeremyRoundill> Haha
1119: [21:33:16] <JeremyRoundill> No problemo
1120: [21:33:19] <JeremyRoundill> Catch you later
1121: [21:33:21] <r3v3rb__> au revoir!
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1126: [21:45:53] <Olliepop> Anyone using HipChat got anything good to say about it?
1127: [21:46:28] <Blacklite> i used it earlier this year
1128: [21:46:33] <Blacklite> it does gifs well
1129: [21:46:46] <Olliepop> oh very good
1130: [21:47:29] <irogue_> looks very similar to Flowdock, which is what we use
1131: [21:49:00] <Blacklite> we use slack which is pretty similar
1132: [21:49:06] <Blacklite> basically irc with a pretty new name and face
1133: [21:49:30] <JeremyRoundill> We use slack too.
1134: [21:49:38] <JeremyRoundill> I just use my IRC client with slack.
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1139: [22:00:50] <simon_w|air> Hello small people
1140: [22:01:13] <JeremyRoundill> 'sup big man
1141: [22:01:16] <JeremyRoundill> ?
1142: [22:01:27] <simon_w|work> It's way too hot
1143: [22:01:30] <simon_w|work> Someone should fix it
1144: [22:03:18] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: submit a PR
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1146: [22:03:44] <JeremyRoundill> ^
1147: [22:03:55] <simon_w|air> But I don't want to be pulled to the hot thing!
1148: [22:07:20] <Stomach> quick
1149: [22:07:24] <Stomach> someone open a "no code" issue
1150: [22:07:25] <Stomach> https://github.com/unclecheese/silverstripe-reflection-templates
1151: [22:07:49] <JeremyRoundill> Nah, 'cos the readme is real nice.
1152: [22:09:57] <simon_w|work> Stomach, https://github.com/unclecheese/silverstripe-reflection-templates/issues/1
1153: [22:10:26] <Stomach> lol
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1155: [22:10:48] <Stomach> speak of the devil...
1156: [22:10:48] <UncleCheese> Cheers, simon_w .. that was some good trolling
1157: [22:10:55] <UncleCheese> you too
1158: [22:10:58] <Stomach> <3
1159: [22:10:59] <UncleCheese> laughed my ass off
1160: [22:11:10] <simon_w|work> :D
1161: [22:11:16] <UncleCheese> you guys are going to love this
1162: [22:11:22] <UncleCheese> i can't wait to hear the trolling
1163: [22:11:31] <simon_w|work> Eh, I don't use SS's templates
1164: [22:11:37] <Stomach> I got really excited when I saw it
1165: [22:11:41] <Stomach> and then there was nothing there
1166: [22:11:42] <Stomach> what a let down
1167: [22:12:08] <UncleCheese> here i'll push it up
1168: [22:12:10] <UncleCheese> without a readme
1169: [22:12:21] <UncleCheese> how the fuck did you find it so fast?
1170: [22:12:34] <Stomach> I'm amazing.
1171: [22:12:52] <Stomach> I was actually in the repo 6 seconds after you created it
1172: [22:12:54] <Stomach> I love timers
1173: [22:12:57] <simon_w|work> But will it outdo this commit in terms of awesome functionality? https://git.simon.geek.nz/91-carriage/silverstripe-2fa/commit/81bedd951c40f4fae5f228e532728ee822b9d1a0
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1175: [22:14:07] <JeremyRoundill> "Prevent the in-CMS login form from working by making it throw an error instead."
1176: [22:14:09] <JeremyRoundill> :P
1177: [22:14:29] <simon_w|air> Yup, cause security is important :p
1178: [22:14:29] <JeremyRoundill> Security hole? Allow me to just break the code.
1179: [22:14:49] <simon_w|air> With 3.1.9, the in-CMS login will just get turned off
1180: [22:15:17] <Stomach> I liked cams parental comment on that pr simon_w|air
1181: [22:15:49] <simon_w|air> Ugh, Cam
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1183: [22:22:19] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: tell us what you really think simon :D
1184: [22:22:46] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], I'm on the swear stats enough already :p
1185: [22:22:52] <Colin[pi]> hehehe
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1190: [22:37:33] <mahfuz> Hey guys what is the best way to show a self hosted mp4 video file in a page in lightbox?
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1193: [22:40:13] <JeremyRoundill> mahfuz: Does rel="lightvideo" work?
1194: [22:40:17] <veb> the crow flies straaaaaight
1195: [22:41:13] <JeremyRoundill> mahfuz: But it probably makes the most sense to install a plugin for it. Mp4 isn't supported by all browsers historically.
1196: [22:41:51] <JeremyRoundill> mahfuz: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats#AutoCompatibilityTable
1197: [22:42:15] <Ryan-Toast> How do you get the mysite global $project in a controler?
1198: [22:42:18] <Ryan-Toast> controller
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1200: [22:44:44] <mahfuz> JeremyRoundill: thanks for your comments. I can change the video format before uploading. But how should I go about it in SilverStripe if I want to show the video in a lightbox when a link is clicked?
1201: [22:45:11] <mahfuz> keeping in mind the browser compatibility
1202: [22:45:18] <JeremyRoundill> $File.URL
1203: [22:46:22] <irogue_> mahfuz: I'm a big fan of videojs
1204: [22:46:50] <JeremyRoundill> I don't understand the question, mahfuz.
1205: [22:46:57] <irogue_> http://www.videojs.com/
1206: [22:47:05] <JeremyRoundill> You know how to create templates in SS, right?
1207: [22:47:16] <mahfuz> irogue_: Could you please give me some sample code and demo if possible?
1208: [22:47:29] <JeremyRoundill> There's a demo on the videojs site, mahfuz.
1209: [22:47:38] <JeremyRoundill> With sample code.
1210: [22:48:07] <JeremyRoundill> As is standard.
1211: [22:48:13] <mahfuz> thanks
1212: [22:54:43] <antmas> lol
1213: [22:54:44] <antmas> http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/63734840/Crack-camper-causes-controversy
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1217: [23:06:56] <mobiusnz> afternoon all
1218: [23:07:11] <simon_w|work> Morning
1219: [23:07:17] <simon_w|air> Morning
1220: [23:07:21] <mobiusnz> does anyone know if it's possible to do something like this in templates? http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/547cef53e2a88
1221: [23:07:45] <simon_w|work> mobiusnz, nope.
1222: [23:07:49] <simon_w|work> (As in, you can't)
1223: [23:08:03] <mobiusnz> simon_w|work: leh sigh, so copypasta job is it?
1224: [23:11:36] <simon_w|air> That's one option
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1226: [23:16:13] <irogue_> or use objects for ServiceTypes
1227: [23:16:48] <irogue_> I'm currently working on somethign that has Tab1Title, Tab1Content, Tab2Title, Tab2Content etc
1228: [23:16:54] <irogue_> it's making me go WHYYYYYYY
1229: [23:17:05] <simon_w|air> Better idea: Ditch it all and have a party!
1230: [23:17:18] <irogue_> that sounds like a plan simon_w|work
1231: [23:18:22] <simon_w|air> I have ice-cream!
1232: [23:18:35] <Kingy> we had our xmas party of friday night
1233: [23:18:46] <Kingy> dessert consisted of 2 Mr Whippy vans rocking up
1234: [23:19:23] <Snowman23> nice
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1236: [23:20:24] <veb> Kingy: car is such a dick
1237: [23:20:29] <veb> overheating. what a dick
1238: [23:20:36] <Kingy> funniest thing bro
1239: [23:20:39] <Kingy> I have one for sale
1240: [23:20:51] <veb> oreal
1241: [23:20:54] <veb> donotwant
1242: [23:21:00] <veb> unless fr33
1243: [23:21:48] <mobiusnz> hey was there anything in the 3.0->3.1 update that might have broken front end htmleditors?
1244: [23:22:27] <Snowman23> There were some casting changes
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1246: [23:23:50] <mobiusnz> hmm
1247: [23:23:54] <mobiusnz> I'm not getting any js errors
1248: [23:24:03] <mobiusnz> but I'm also not getting any htmleditors
1249: [23:24:36] <mobiusnz> tiny_mce_gzip.php appears to be called
1250: [23:26:45] <antmas> veb: fr33?
1251: [23:26:49] <antmas> oh
1252: [23:26:50] <antmas> free
1253: [23:26:51] <antmas> :P
1254: [23:26:55] <veb> man... you do that a lot
1255: [23:26:58] <Kingy> get down with the kids Anselm
1256: [23:27:00] <Kingy> antmas
1257: [23:27:09] <veb> here's a tip, when you don't understand something, write it but don't press enter
1258: [23:27:32] <antmas> :|
1259: [23:27:34] <antmas> guis
1260: [23:27:34] <antmas> pls
1261: [23:27:39] <veb> uhuh no
1262: [23:27:41] <Kingy> fuck you mr power tip guy
1263: [23:27:44] <Kingy> HERE'S A TIP
1264: [23:27:44] <veb> you don't get off that easy
1265: [23:27:49] * veb slaos Kingy with a wild boar
1266: [23:27:54] <veb> shut it
1267: [23:27:56] <Kingy> hate those ads
1268: [23:28:06] <Kingy> here's a tip, shut your windows to hold heat
1269: [23:28:07] <veb> wild boar no like u
1270: [23:28:09] <Kingy> fuuuu
1271: [23:28:22] <Kingy> the only tip you're getting buddy is the tip of my wang
1272: [23:28:31] <antmas> gay
1273: [23:28:39] <Kingy> no homo
1274: [23:28:49] <veb> huh
1275: [23:28:54] <Kingy> im getting some lunch now brb
1276: [23:28:55] <veb> so my websites are dead
1277: [23:28:57] <veb> WHAT THE
1278: [23:29:01] * antmas throws KDC at veb
1279: [23:29:09] <veb> ehhh
1280: [23:29:14] <veb> wait what
1281: [23:29:51] <veb> motherfu
1282: [23:29:56] <veb> my DNS servers are down
1283: [23:29:59] <Colin[pi]> antmas: holy shit antmas I felt that tremor from here
1284: [23:30:10] <antmas> Colin[pi]: :P
1285: [23:30:13] <antmas> dat fat shaming
1286: [23:30:42] <Colin[pi]> what I want to know is, does he wear the one set of clothes, or does he have a whole wardrobe of the same clothes?
1287: [23:30:44] <veb> what
1288: [23:32:39] <antmas> did he and mona split?
1289: [23:32:50] * willr quit (Quit: willr)
1290: [23:32:59] <antmas> or rather, did Mona finally say 'what the fuck am I doing here?'
1291: [23:33:31] <veb> damn, all my websites are dead
1292: [23:33:32] <veb> this includes my email >.<
1293: [23:33:58] <Stomach> email is not a website
1294: [23:34:00] <Stomach> silly veb
1295: [23:34:08] <veb> er.
1296: [23:34:14] <veb> DNS is the reason they're dead.
1297: [23:34:19] <simon_w|air> My email works
1298: [23:34:22] <simon_w|air> Sucks to be you :p
1299: [23:34:28] * veb is with gapps
1300: [23:34:32] <veb> but... DNS
1301: [23:34:38] <veb> i'll get them eventually I guess
1302: [23:34:44] <veb> ffffuuu
1303: [23:34:50] * veb was waiting on some clients
1304: [23:35:24] <veb> both redundancies broke... that's hilarious
1305: [23:35:27] <antmas> veb are you in Dunner's by any chance?
1306: [23:35:31] <veb> sir, yes sir
1307: [23:35:36] <antmas> Adam?
1308: [23:35:44] <veb> no
1309: [23:35:51] <veb> i am not dempas
1310: [23:35:55] <antmas> oh good
1311: [23:35:58] * veb guessed a random username
1312: [23:36:04] <veb> is that who you were talking about?
1313: [23:36:07] <antmas> yeah
1314: [23:36:10] <veb> rofl
1315: [23:36:13] <antmas> the coffee selfie whining guy
1316: [23:36:20] <veb> cos..
1317: [23:36:21] <veb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8u1yn1jy8n6ks5/Screenshot%202014-12-02%2012.36.18.png?dl=0
1318: [23:36:28] <veb> I saw an adam, and was like lol
1319: [23:36:44] <antmas> hahaha
1320: [23:36:45] <veb> that's a rather good guess
1321: [23:36:47] <antmas> awesome
1322: [23:36:51] <veb> if you don't mind me saying
1323: [23:37:26] <antmas> I met in in Auckland at a sharepoint conference
1324: [23:37:31] <antmas> him*
1325: [23:38:46] <antmas> novaweb: NZ?
1326: [23:38:55] <antmas> I forget who all the kiwis/ausis are in here
1327: [23:40:09] <novaweb> antmas... sup?
1328: [23:40:33] <antmas> novaweb: just wondering who's a kiwi in huurrrrrr
1329: [23:42:14] <veb> man. you asked about the ONE person from Dunedin
1330: [23:42:17] <veb> and I just happen to guess
1331: [23:42:22] <veb> that's fucking crazy
1332: [23:42:35] <antmas> veb: XD
1333: [23:42:49] <antmas> I've always wondered if he lurks in here
1334: [23:43:32] <novaweb> me, adrexia, jedateach, SS23, wracu are ones that I know are....
1335: [23:44:50] <antmas> Blacklite: JeremyRoundill, me, Kingy , irogue_ , tanger, Ryan-Toast and Zippy too
1336: [23:45:02] <Ryan-Toast> WAT?
1337: [23:45:07] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: shhh
1338: [23:45:16] <simon_w|air> Don't forget UncleCheese, madmatt, ss-log
1339: [23:45:25] <antmas> lol yeah true
1340: [23:45:29] <antmas> camfindlay
1341: [23:45:31] <adrexia> ss-log? really? ;)
1342: [23:45:45] <Ryan-Toast> SS-LOG MASTERRACE
1343: [23:45:47] <simon_w|air> ss-log lives in Auckland at the moment
1344: [23:46:20] <novaweb> and jesus
1345: [23:46:25] <novaweb> jesus is everywhere
1346: [23:46:28] <novaweb> and he's a kiwi
1347: [23:46:39] <veb> he's the guy who cuts a lawn!
1348: [23:46:43] <novaweb> praise the lorde
1349: [23:46:44] <veb> apparently
1350: [23:46:58] <novaweb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeBihoUS3W8
1351: [23:47:38] <antmas> LOL
1352: [23:47:43] <antmas> that version is way better
1353: [23:47:50] <Colin[pi]> ahaha
1354: [23:47:50] <antmas> like Kanye remix better
1355: [23:48:30] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: this is a great track https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oRSijEW_cDM&list=PL016DF490B141ECBD
1356: [23:48:36] <antmas> long link is long
1357: [23:48:39] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: fuck yeah
1358: [23:48:55] <Ryan-Toast> Gesaffelstein, the name you can never pronounce.
1359: [23:49:13] <Ryan-Toast> I always end up telling people to listen to geffle-stein
1360: [23:49:19] <antmas> Giraffe Stein
1361: [23:50:07] <antmas> reminds me of old industrial EBM, just less tragic
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