#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 19 November 2014

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1: [00:00:19] <mobiusnz> change 3.0.*@stable to 3.1.*@stable should do the trick?
2: [00:00:34] <simon_w|work> Yup
3: [00:00:58] <mobiusnz> beans
4: [00:02:03] <antmas> hah, spronk2 Colin[pi] adrexia we actually use SCP
5: [00:02:06] * antmas got it wrong
6: [00:02:12] <spronk2> oh. oh wow.
7: [00:02:29] <zippy> scp? why not just rsync then... be faster
8: [00:02:44] <spronk2> HAXCRYPTIOn
9: [00:03:27] <spronk2> ..LUNCHTIME
10: [00:04:18] <antmas> zippy: doesn't rsync merge changes in a file rather than overwritting it?
11: [00:04:48] <zippy> diff's and merges sort of thing yea - does magic
12: [00:05:00] <zippy> will only send the files which have changed
13: [00:06:33] <antmas> interesting
14: [00:06:41] <antmas> makes me wonder how that is actually faster
15: [00:06:52] <antmas> as it would be making a temporary file I assume?
16: [00:06:52] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
17: [00:07:04] <zippy> antmas: try it :)
18: [00:08:30] <antmas> I might do actually
19: [00:08:53] <mobiusnz> antmas: are you wondering how copying less of a file is faster than copying all of a file?
20: [00:09:12] <antmas> I still feel like there must be a better way of keeping the same site on different servers in sync though
21: [00:11:08] <antmas> mobiusnz: kinda, more about the magic that happens to look into a file, find a change and apply that change to another file
22: [00:11:17] <antmas> rather than replacing it in one step
23: [00:13:09] <mobiusnz> well the bigger the file the more prominent the speedup is
24: [00:13:33] <mobiusnz> and even with small files, disk storage is usually an order of magnitude faster than the network
25: [00:14:04] <antmas> I'm willing to leave it at 'it's black magic'
26: [00:14:10] <mobiusnz> :D
27: [00:14:16] <antmas> :D
28: [00:14:20] <mobiusnz> it's open source, look it up :P
29: [00:14:21] <antmas> anyway, lunch time
30: [00:14:38] <antmas> mobiusnz: yeah I'm going to chat to our network team about it
31: [00:15:18] <mobiusnz> as a general rule, you should always ask "why can't we use rsync" rather than "should we use rsync"
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33: [00:18:36] <mahfuz> Hi
34: [00:19:46] <mahfuz> Is there an easy way to delete records related in one to many relationship while deleting from the "one" dataobject?
35: [00:20:23] <JeremyRoundill> Doesn't it automatically delete?
36: [00:20:31] <markcl> So… I was thinking if I should use Laravel or Silverstripe for a big journalling app
37: [00:20:41] <markcl> and a movie database app
38: [00:21:02] <Colin[pi]> markcl: imdb?
39: [00:21:03] <Colin[pi]> :P
40: [00:21:07] <JeremyRoundill> Both can do it.
41: [00:21:11] <markcl> something like that
42: [00:21:13] <simon_w|work> mahfuz, public function onBeforeDelete() { parent::onBeforeDelete(); foreach ($this->RelationName() as $obj) $obj->delete(); }
43: [00:21:22] <simon_w|work> markcl, want a CMS for it?
44: [00:21:23] <JeremyRoundill> I prefer Laravel for super-custom stuff.
45: [00:21:35] <mahfuz> thanks simon
46: [00:21:38] <JeremyRoundill> If you want an easy CMS, SS
47: [00:21:41] <markcl> I dont know why Id use Laravel, but Im thinking better tdd support and its much more lightweight and may be able to serve more people/scale well with more data
48: [00:21:53] <markcl> I don't think Id need the CMS that much
49: [00:21:56] <zippy> JeremyRoundill: +1 on that
50: [00:21:58] <simon_w|work> markcl, if you're not after a CMS, don't use SS
51: [00:22:02] <markcl> But would be useful for editing pages fast
52: [00:22:10] <simon_w|work> The bloat is not worth it
53: [00:22:18] <markcl> I see. Thanks simon
54: [00:22:19] <JeremyRoundill> simon_w|work +1
55: [00:23:07] <Colin[pi]> use the right tool for the job
56: [00:23:39] <Colin[pi]> although determining what is or is not the right tool is half the battle
57: [00:24:18] <JeremyRoundill> Colin[pi]: If you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
58: [00:24:22] <adrexia> the other half is a fight to the death?
59: [00:24:28] <JeremyRoundill> If you've got a sledge-hammer, you can do anything.
60: [00:24:39] <zippy> I think finding the tool is 15% battle. naming files, classes, functions, and all that is 80% battle :)
61: [00:24:41] <JeremyRoundill> adrexia: +1
62: [00:24:48] <Colin[pi]> zippy: lol true
63: [00:24:55] <JeremyRoundill> And the other 5% is crying.
64: [00:25:02] <simon_w|work> spronk2, seen Flow?
65: [00:25:24] <simon_w|work> zippy, nah, the hard bit is building the tool cause all the existing ones are crap :p
66: [00:25:27] <Colin[pi]> JeremyRoundill: lol
67: [00:25:29] <markcl> Debugging is 100% of the battle
68: [00:25:49] * simon_w|work guesses Flow has to go into the swear list now
69: [00:26:16] <Ryan-Toast> heavy flow?
70: [00:26:42] <simon_w|work> http://flowtype.org/
71: [00:27:03] <adrexia> "Surpression of JSHint 'Don't make functions within a loop'"
72: [00:27:06] * adrexia cried
73: [00:27:13] <novaweb> I have a HtmlEditorField/HtmlText combo, why are links outputting like this? sdadssadasxa[sitetree_link,id=913]
74: [00:27:29] <simon_w|work> While I've got the file open, anyone want me to add something?
75: [00:27:40] <simon_w|work> novaweb, cause you're not going through HTMLText's forTemplate
76: [00:27:48] <novaweb> ty!
77: [00:28:12] <JeremyRoundill> simon_w|work: laravel :D
78: [00:28:28] <JeremyRoundill> Unless it's already there.
79: [00:28:39] <simon_w|work> Well, it's in this unsaved buffer I've got open ;)
80: [00:28:40] <JeremyRoundill> With all my suggestions the swear list is just gonna be dumb in a bit. :P
81: [00:29:09] <simon_w|work> Might have to change the number of people in each list. Got 59 words at the moment, plus top talker
82: [00:29:12] <novaweb> simon_w what doc page do I look at?
83: [00:29:24] <simon_w|work> novaweb, no idea
84: [00:30:41] <simon_w|work> JeremyRoundill, there you go: https://git.simon.geek.nz/simon_w/logbot-www/commit/0f7603c61050a7e9b4c9a78f934b70c97c8c5a33
85: [00:31:04] <markcl> I like SS DataObjects
86: [00:31:10] <JeremyRoundill> Haha
87: [00:31:10] <markcl> They are very easy to read
88: [00:31:11] <markcl> vs Laravel
89: [00:31:15] <markcl> schema migrations
90: [00:31:26] <markcl> So I guess that tips the scale for SS
91: [00:31:33] <markcl> Id be more productive with these DataObjects
92: [00:32:03] <markcl> The alternative is to make DataObjects work with Laravel
93: [00:32:23] <Stomach> adrexia - I have to suppress functions in loops sometimes
94: [00:32:29] <Stomach> its really hard to get around in some cases :(
95: [00:32:57] <JeremyRoundill> markcl: Eloquent is pretty similar.
96: [00:33:11] <adrexia> really hard to work out what is actually going on though.
97: [00:33:34] <simon_w|work> Now at 62 swears. Hmm, need to make the building the page faster
98: [00:34:38] <adrexia> Stomach - anonymous functions to boot
99: [00:34:47] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: weekend project! :P
100: [00:34:53] <zippy> markcl: don't need to make DataObjects... just use modals as normal. There is a migration builder as well
101: [00:35:04] <simon_w|work> Colin[pi], probably :p
102: [00:35:48] <zippy> laravel has too much freedom / choice which is my problem I have lol
103: [00:36:36] <Colin[pi]> zippy: I tend to work like that too, I prefer the framework to tell me "no no Colin you fuckwit, it doesn't go there, it goes HERE"
104: [00:37:50] <Olliepop> Laravel is designed for scalable web applications whereas SilverStripe is geared towards content managed websites
105: [00:38:24] <Olliepop> You'd use Laravel if you were writing a REST backend for an app, but you'd use SilverStripe if you were building a large public directory
106: [00:39:34] <Olliepop> i can't see Laravel being useful for anything I've used SilverStripe for, even though it's far more optimized and has a great ORM
107: [00:39:58] <zippy> SS does have the CMS which is really useful, but for a non cms site it's too much
108: [00:40:16] <Colin[pi]> look guise, we're doing it all wrong, really we should be using Joomla for everything
109: [00:40:17] <zippy> lucky pyro isn't in here.....
110: [00:40:34] <zippy> Colin[pi]: with wordpress as the blog part?
111: [00:40:45] <Colin[pi]> zippy: perfect!
112: [00:41:03] <zippy> and use Drupal to handle the authenticaion
113: [00:41:19] <Olliepop> the SilverStripe framework is a great base for the SilverStripe CMS but unless you weren't familiar with anything else I don't see why you'd use it standalone
114: [00:41:29] <Colin[pi]> zippy: that'd be glorious! *eyebrow starts to twitch*
115: [00:41:35] <Olliepop> Eloquent is a far better ORM
116: [00:43:34] <Olliepop> haha did anybody use Mambo or PHPNuke?
117: [00:45:15] <Colin[pi]> Olliepop: oh god, PHPNuke going way back..
118: [00:45:50] <Colin[pi]> wow phpnuke is still going?
119: [00:49:01] <Colin[pi]> hehe, this article has multiple issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverStripe
120: [00:50:13] <JeremyRoundill> What service do you lot use to pay for Netflix?
121: [00:50:29] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: service? credit card
122: [00:50:45] <JeremyRoundill> Don't they check the location of your credit card?
123: [00:50:51] <antmas> nope
124: [00:51:02] <JeremyRoundill> Sick
125: [00:51:08] <Colin[pi]> JeremyRoundill: dont think they give a shit, as, you know, they make monies..
126: [00:51:11] <JeremyRoundill> I'll swap mine over to my credit card then :D
127: [00:51:14] <antmas> or atleast, I didn't do anything different when I signed up
128: [00:51:40] <antmas> only trouble I ran into was when I tried to download a legit copy of the Android netflix app
129: [00:51:54] <antmas> but that's just Google Play being dumb
130: [00:51:55] <JeremyRoundill> I was using a traveller's virtual credit card, but accidentally tried to sign into their site from outside my VPN
131: [00:52:27] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: Fix it then!
132: [00:52:57] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: beaing in mind, Netflix literally just announced it is on it's way to NZ/AUS
133: [00:53:07] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah
134: [00:53:12] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: looks like Sig was fixing it and copped a smackdown in the talk page :P
135: [00:54:12] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: but knowing NZ/AUS TV the programmes will be shit house compared to others
136: [00:54:16] <Colin[pi]> antmas: how are they going to get past Murdoch?
137: [00:54:48] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: "fixing"
138: [00:54:54] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: He was advertisingfying it
139: [00:54:56] <Snowman23> :P
140: [00:55:00] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: yes ;P
141: [00:55:01] <Snowman23> That's *why* there are issues
142: [00:55:11] * jenniferaslan quit (Quit: jenniferaslan has left the room)
143: [00:55:31] <simon_w|work> Also, he's not supposed to be editing it either
144: [00:55:34] * Hailwood has joined #silverstripe
145: [00:56:02] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: hehe he could have used a different name at least lol
146: [00:56:04] <Snowman23> If I was more elloquent, I would try rewrite it to not be like that
147: [00:56:12] <Snowman23> Alas, I am noob at words
148: [00:56:24] <simon_w|work> Snowman23, also, as an employee, you're not allowed to
149: [00:56:32] <Snowman23> simon_w|work: Uh
150: [00:56:33] <Snowman23> simon_w|work: Why not?
151: [00:56:41] <simon_w|work> Wikipedia policy.
152: [00:56:45] <Snowman23> Which one?
153: [00:57:43] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest
154: [00:58:04] <Snowman23> COI editing involves contributing to Wikipedia to promote your own interests, including your business or financial interests, or those of your external relationships, such as with family, friends or employers.[1] When an external relationship undermines, or could reasonably be said to undermine, your role as a Wikipedian, you have a conflict of interest. This is often expressed as: when advancing outside interests is more important to an editor than adv
155: [00:58:26] <Snowman23> This boils down to what you write, it doesn't mean that being employed is a conflict of interest
156: [00:58:29] <Colin[pi]> "
157: [00:58:30] <Colin[pi]> "COI editing is strongly discouraged. It risks causing public embarrassment to the individuals and groups being promoted"
158: [00:58:35] <Snowman23> It's not COI editing
159: [00:58:38] <antmas> awwwww yissssss
160: [00:58:42] <Snowman23> What Sig did is
161: [00:58:47] * antmas is going to ba judge at a bake-off
162: [00:58:51] <antmas> be a*
163: [00:59:08] <JeremyRoundill> Snowman23: They did make an argument that the text he was inputting was coloured.
164: [00:59:15] <Snowman23> JeremyRoundill: Yeah, and I agree
165: [00:59:20] <JeremyRoundill> And pointed out what they thought was coloured.
166: [00:59:23] <Snowman23> I think it's a horrible article filled with advertising nonesense
167: [00:59:34] <Snowman23> I think he should be banned from editing SilverStripe related articles
168: [00:59:41] <antmas> who? ^^^
169: [00:59:41] <Snowman23> He didn't follow NPOV, and has a COI
170: [00:59:45] <Snowman23> Sigurd, antmas
171: [00:59:50] <antmas> ah
172: [00:59:53] <simon_w|work> I think that article should be deleted
173: [00:59:53] * Tanger has joined #silverstripe
174: [01:00:01] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I just noticed on the WP talk page for SS, Sig was editing it lol
175: [01:00:03] <Snowman23> All I'm saying is that simply by being an employee of SilverStripe doesn't mean there's a COI
176: [01:00:11] <Colin[pi]> antmas: and he copped a fair bit of flak
177: [01:00:24] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol 'WHOOPS'
178: [01:00:40] <adrexia> Snowman23, no, but I think there's an internal silverstripe policy based opn what happened last time
179: [01:00:50] <antmas> what happened last time?
180: [01:00:53] <adrexia> I remember it being a thing when I first tarted at silverstripe
181: [01:00:56] <Snowman23> Fuck internal policy!
182: [01:01:01] <adrexia> lol
183: [01:01:16] <antmas> adrexia: tarted :D
184: [01:01:31] <Snowman23> Anyway, point is, the article is shit, and it would be nice to have it rewritten
185: [01:01:34] <adrexia> that's a very Snowman23 thing to say Snowman23
186: [01:01:41] <Snowman23> :D
187: [01:01:44] <adrexia> anbtmas firststarted :P
188: [01:01:58] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: agreed, it really needs a lot of work
189: [01:02:13] <Snowman23> If everyone edits one sentence each, together, we'll have it fixed!
190: [01:02:51] <Colin[pi]> I have to say, though
191: [01:02:54] <Colin[pi]> as a general observation
192: [01:03:05] <Colin[pi]> that WP folks are such utter cocks to deal with
193: [01:03:15] <Colin[pi]> (from previous experience)
194: [01:03:34] <Snowman23> For sure
195: [01:03:35] <Colin[pi]> think of the worst grammar nazi neckbeards you can imagine and multiply by 100
196: [01:03:53] <JeremyRoundill> Colin[pi] it's just because they're angry after having to deal with the rabbit's warren that is WordPress code.
197: [01:04:09] <Colin[pi]> JeremyRoundill: wordpress code?
198: [01:04:15] <Snowman23> Here, I'll make an edit to make it less advertisingly
199: [01:04:16] <Colin[pi]> I'm talking about WP = Wikipedia :P
200: [01:04:16] <JeremyRoundill> :P
201: [01:04:19] <antmas> 'wordpress code'
202: [01:04:19] <JeremyRoundill> Ooooooh
203: [01:04:21] <JeremyRoundill> Oooooooh
204: [01:04:23] <JeremyRoundill> Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh
205: [01:04:26] <Colin[pi]> rofl
206: [01:04:46] <JeremyRoundill> I thought I had left the conversation for long enough that the subject had changed.
207: [01:04:52] <simon_w|work> I think JeremyRoundill just wanted to swear
208: [01:04:53] <Tanger> Hahaha
209: [01:04:55] <Tanger> Wordpress code
210: [01:04:57] <antmas> ahahahaha
211: [01:05:29] <JeremyRoundill> Haha, I'll be top of the list soon, simon_w|work!
212: [01:05:43] <Snowman23> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverStripe
213: [01:05:45] <Snowman23> Better now? :D
214: [01:05:57] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: removed demo and doc links?
215: [01:06:04] <Snowman23> Yeah
216: [01:06:43] <mobiusnz> herpderp
217: [01:06:49] <antmas> put 'used by such esteemed clients such as Antmas at TDC.'
218: [01:06:54] <Snowman23> hahaha
219: [01:06:58] <Stomach> I edited it too!
220: [01:06:58] <Snowman23> INCORRECT OR MISSING CAPTCHA
221: [01:06:59] <Snowman23> fuck captchas
222: [01:07:01] <mobiusnz> was wondering why after a dev/build none of my objects were showing up, but I could access the cms fine
223: [01:07:13] <mobiusnz> misspelled database. new one was created
224: [01:07:17] <novaweb> does anyone have experience using .forTemplate and .LimitWordCount(666) on the same $Content
225: [01:07:17] <Stomach> spot the penis
226: [01:07:18] <Snowman23> 13 captchas, I got one that worked
227: [01:07:19] <Snowman23> o/
228: [01:07:25] <novaweb> is it possible...
229: [01:07:31] <novaweb> it seems to be one or the other
230: [01:08:01] <antmas> lol got a secret santa name handed to me
231: [01:08:07] <Stomach> nope probably not novaweb
232: [01:08:07] * antmas got 'Bob'
233: [01:08:12] <novaweb> balls
234: [01:08:17] <simon_w|work> novaweb, LimitWordCount returns a text object, so you want .NoHTML.LimitWordCount
235: [01:08:28] <Stomach> what he said
236: [01:08:58] <novaweb> thanks simon_w - the problem is I need to limit the word count, while at the same time letting html tags display and render -.-
237: [01:09:05] <Stomach> or $Content.ContextSummary(150, false, true)
238: [01:09:14] <Snowman23> something weird is happening
239: [01:09:21] <Snowman23> my box is occasionally right clicking when I left click
240: [01:09:23] <Snowman23> >.>
241: [01:09:26] * jenniferaslan has joined #silverstripe
242: [01:09:56] * catcher has joined #silverstripe
243: [01:09:59] <simon_w|work> Snowman23, whoa, you've learnt how to click!
244: [01:10:06] <Snowman23> ASDFASDFASDFASDFASFASSFSA
245: [01:10:11] <antmas> Snowman23: It's probably Aliens'
246: [01:10:22] <Snowman23> ikr
247: [01:10:24] <novaweb> I'm aliens
248: [01:10:28] <spronk2> fuck
249: [01:10:30] <spronk2> sushitime
250: [01:10:32] <spronk2> in south city
251: [01:10:34] <spronk2> IS BOSS
252: [01:10:44] <antmas> hammertime
253: [01:10:45] <Snowman23> what to get for lunch
254: [01:10:49] <simon_w|work> Food
255: [01:10:55] * simon_w|work has meatballs!
256: [01:11:01] <antmas> Snowman23: A Nutriblast
257: [01:11:11] <Snowman23> Is hat like burgerfuel?
258: [01:11:24] <antmas> nope
259: [01:11:28] <antmas> it's a SUPERCHARGED
260: [01:11:36] <antmas> SUPERINFUSED
261: [01:11:41] <antmas> BLASTED
262: [01:11:43] <antmas> SUPER FOOD
263: [01:11:53] <zippy> spronk2: isn't, east gate sushi better?
264: [01:11:55] <antmas> *brought to you buy the Nutribullet*
265: [01:11:59] <spronk2> NO
266: [01:12:01] <spronk2> SHUT UP
267: [01:12:05] <mobiusnz> is it possible to add extra columns to the Security page, and filter by them?
268: [01:12:11] <zippy> spronk2: yes it is...
269: [01:12:21] <spronk2> ITS THE SAME PLCAE
270: [01:12:23] <Snowman23> OMG SOMEONE IS DRILLING
271: [01:12:34] <zippy> same place but different people so better
272: [01:13:06] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: you guys in the new office now?
273: [01:13:09] <Snowman23> yeah
274: [01:13:14] <Snowman23> bbiab noms
275: [01:14:11] <spronk2> they do
276: [01:14:14] <spronk2> tempura vege sushi.
277: [01:14:16] <spronk2> ITS SO FUCKING GOOD
278: [01:15:01] <JeremyRoundill> spronk2: You've got to pick up some inari too.
279: [01:15:05] <JeremyRoundill> Best thing in the world.
280: [01:15:30] <spronk2> WHAT IS IT?
281: [01:15:35] <adrexia> Snowman23, you ne3ed to construct a pully system to lower down your orders and pull them back up again ;)
282: [01:15:42] <antmas> Kingy: JeremyRoundill played a little CS last night
283: [01:15:48] <JeremyRoundill> Ooh!
284: [01:15:50] <JeremyRoundill> Did you win?
285: [01:15:53] <antmas> yeah
286: [01:15:55] <JeremyRoundill> I played a couple of games
287: [01:16:06] * superspring_ is now known as superspring
288: [01:16:16] <antmas> almost MVP if it wasn't for a lag spike on 2nd to last round :O
289: [01:16:19] <JeremyRoundill> I'm getting better at entry fragging :)
290: [01:16:29] <JeremyRoundill> My friends tend to just follow me around.
291: [01:16:37] <JeremyRoundill> Pretty much baiting most of the time.
292: [01:16:46] <antmas> I stuck to my own this time
293: [01:16:52] <antmas> and just hovered the hostage area
294: [01:16:57] <JeremyRoundill> :D
295: [01:17:02] <JeremyRoundill> It sucks if you're not in a 5 man
296: [01:17:08] <JeremyRoundill> Because people just screw you over.
297: [01:17:18] <antmas> we were 4 man for ages
298: [01:17:19] <JeremyRoundill> When we're not 5 manning, I just keep telling my friends to bait the other guys.
299: [01:17:29] <antmas> fucking bots are useless at guarding
300: [01:17:33] <JeremyRoundill> Yup.
301: [01:18:00] <spronk2> bots
302: [01:18:01] <spronk2> what
303: [01:18:12] <JeremyRoundill> Stay away from the bots :)
304: [01:18:17] <antmas> yeah I do
305: [01:18:29] <antmas> I just sent him wandering in one direction to bait
306: [01:18:36] <JeremyRoundill> :D
307: [01:18:39] <antmas> every round
308: [01:18:47] <antmas> he got a couple of kills too!
309: [01:19:37] <antmas> you guys were online so I just went invisible so I didn't get spammed with invites :P
310: [01:19:41] <antmas> just to get my skill back
311: [01:21:20] <JeremyRoundill> Haha
312: [01:22:20] <antmas> a couple of times there I threw my gun in peoples faces by using G for nades :P
313: [01:23:53] * catcher quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
314: [01:26:40] <adrexia> found a mac keyboard lying around, so now I have literally no excuse for typos. this is a much better size. :D
315: [01:28:33] * Azure quit (Quit: My MBP went to sleep.)
316: [01:30:14] <madmatt> antmas: Spam c-5, c-5, c-5
317: [01:30:41] <madmatt> It's muscle memory now, so I don't remember exactly... pretty sure that's the "Follow me" command
318: [01:30:58] <madmatt> eventually they might follow you, then if you go down you get a second turn if you die quick enough :)
319: [01:33:53] <mobiusnz> is it possible to include a HasMany in a gridfield? IE show string concatenated, and search by?
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321: [01:40:37] <antmas> adrexia: it's a shame it doesn't fix grammar ;) *snaps fingers*
322: [01:40:41] * _muskie9_ is now known as muskie9
323: [01:42:00] <adrexia> antmas - nah, grammer is extra
324: [01:42:31] <adrexia> as are fixing spelling mistakes, and brain fails
325: [01:43:06] <adrexia> but I'm 70% more likely to hit the right key now, so that's a start
326: [01:44:31] <antmas> my enjoyment of using a mac keyboard decreases on par with my rage at not having a keypad
327: [01:45:20] <mobiusnz> keypads are for accountants
328: [01:45:30] <antmas> NO
329: [01:45:52] <antmas> they are there so you don't look like a single finger typer retard when looking for a number :|
330: [01:46:24] <mobiusnz> can't say I have that problem
331: [01:46:26] <antmas> or for trolling people with numlock
332: [01:47:16] <mobiusnz> heh
333: [01:47:26] <mobiusnz> anyone here know much about gridfields?
334: [01:47:28] <antmas> there is a guy in our office that has his keyboard almost vertical
335: [01:47:45] <antmas> he basically pushes his fingers forward to hit keys :O
336: [01:48:20] <Stomach> antmas - my mac keyboard has a numpad
337: [01:48:31] <Kingy> <JeremyRoundill> Pretty much baiting most of the time.
338: [01:48:35] <Kingy> aka me :)
339: [01:48:52] <JeremyRoundill> You get like a hundred get out of jail free cards.
340: [01:49:02] <JeremyRoundill> My other friends are now like Nova 3/4
341: [01:49:04] <antmas> Stomach: then you pretty much have Jesus for a keyboard
342: [01:49:09] <JeremyRoundill> And they think they're hot stuff now.
343: [01:49:22] <JeremyRoundill> One's ok at awping, so he gets loads of kills.
344: [01:49:34] <JeremyRoundill> And he tends to push with me.
345: [01:49:42] <Kingy> lol
346: [01:49:43] <Stomach> push the button
347: [01:49:51] <Kingy> so FC4 or AC:Unity
348: [01:49:52] <Kingy> which one
349: [01:49:52] <JeremyRoundill> The rest of them don't make assisting plays and don't push.
350: [01:50:02] <mobiusnz> I moved all the keys on my mac keyboard to their proper location http://cl.ly/image/400g2r1t2J1I
351: [01:50:10] <Kingy> well I at least push
352: [01:50:13] <antmas> Kingy: with Unity - you're gonna have a bad time
353: [01:50:21] <JeremyRoundill> Is that dvorak?
354: [01:50:26] <mobiusnz> yeah
355: [01:50:26] <Stomach> wtf layout is that mobiusnz
356: [01:50:38] <JeremyRoundill> I recognise that AOEUIDHTNS
357: [01:50:45] <Kingy> antmas ok
358: [01:50:50] <Kingy> FC4 it is lol
359: [01:50:50] <Stomach> oh dvorak
360: [01:51:02] <antmas> dvorak seems so weird to me
361: [01:51:04] <JeremyRoundill> I used it for a bit. It's definitely nicer than QWERTY, but totally not worth getting used to. :P
362: [01:51:16] <Stomach> its all a lie
363: [01:51:21] <JeremyRoundill> Re-arranging keybinds and stuff just becomes such a pain.
364: [01:51:26] <mobiusnz> I forced myself to switch after tech as I was getting RSI
365: [01:51:36] <JeremyRoundill> And then you go to use friends' keyboards and it sucks.
366: [01:52:02] <mobiusnz> I can still touchtype on qwerty
367: [01:52:21] <JeremyRoundill> Nice
368: [01:52:25] <mobiusnz> and I found an awesome app that gets around all the weird keyboard layout stuff when RDP/VNCing
369: [01:52:30] <Tanger> I always feel wierd for not being able to touch-type well
370: [01:52:39] <JeremyRoundill> I think dvorak isn't worth it for the speed increase.
371: [01:52:48] <JeremyRoundill> Because usually I'm not limited by my typing speed.
372: [01:52:58] <mobiusnz> it's not so much the speed increase, it's the lesser movement of the fingers
373: [01:53:08] <mobiusnz> I go out of my way to be extra lazy
374: [01:53:17] <antmas> Tanger: don't, loads of people can't
375: [01:53:26] <antmas> I still look every now and then
376: [01:53:36] <Tanger> I kinda can, but it slows me down a lot :P
377: [01:53:59] <Tanger> antmas: Do you find the speed increase is worth it for coding?
378: [01:54:10] <Kingy> I just love it when you go to type and you're fingers are one key off
379: [01:54:35] <Kingy> so whatever you type looks completely messed up, but really if you just moved 1 key over it'd be perfect
380: [01:54:45] <antmas> I can, but I don't follow the 'rules'
381: [01:54:53] <antmas> Tanger: you mean touch typing or dvorak?
382: [01:54:55] <Kingy> I always see ;p;
383: [01:54:59] <JeremyRoundill> Tanger: It doesn't make a difference.
384: [01:55:08] <JeremyRoundill> Tanger: Most of the time you spend coding is spent thinking.
385: [01:55:08] <Tanger> Touch-typing, never really looked into dvorak
386: [01:55:22] <mobiusnz> Kingy: that *is* one problem with moving all the keys... I don't have the raised home finger keys anyomer
387: [01:55:27] <Tanger> JeremyRoundill: Yeah, that's always how I figured it
388: [01:55:32] <JeremyRoundill> Tanger: If you're getting caught up by your typing speed, either you're some sort of savant, or you really suck at typing.
389: [01:55:43] <antmas> lol
390: [01:55:45] <antmas> this ^^^
391: [01:56:02] <Tanger> http://www.fastcoexist.com/3038197/this-punching-bag-computer-requires-a-full-body-workout-if-you-want-to-type-a-word
392: [01:56:07] <Tanger> Check that keyboard out
393: [01:56:15] <antmas> either way, you're still allowed to internally rage when watching your Dad type something
394: [01:56:25] <mobiusnz> touchtyping + sms forwarding on mac = great way to bitchslap people on phones
395: [01:57:05] <antmas> Tanger: getting fit and programming probably don't go together :P
396: [01:57:26] <Stomach> ,u gomhrd str mrbrt pgg nu pmr
397: [01:57:30] <Tanger> antmas: True, but I think a fair compromise is the stand-up desk
398: [01:57:50] <Tanger> At least then nobody can say you're not putting at least some effort into staying fit :P
399: [01:58:19] <antmas> this is true Tanger
400: [01:58:31] <antmas> awesome, thread aborted error
401: [01:58:55] <antmas> also OH GOD THERE IS A FLY IN HERE
402: [01:58:59] <antmas> IT WON'T LEAVE
403: [01:59:25] <spronk2> JeremyRoundill i find i can't really think about code and type much at the same time
404: [01:59:29] <antmas> it keeps landing on the edge of my monitor
405: [01:59:33] <antmas> send halp
406: [01:59:34] <spronk2> it tends to be... think
407: [01:59:34] <spronk2> then type
408: [01:59:36] <spronk2> repear
409: [01:59:37] <spronk2> t
410: [01:59:59] * spronk2 always finds his typing speed to be an impediment
411: [02:00:00] <antmas> spronk2: I tend to code, then think, then delete 90% of it
412: [02:00:03] <spronk2> yeahlol
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414: [02:01:59] <Kingy> fark, my gfx card keeps messing up
415: [02:02:16] <antmas> Kingy: home pc?
416: [02:02:19] <Kingy> yeah
417: [02:02:26] <antmas> what gpu?
418: [02:02:27] <Kingy> was doing the whole artifacts thing
419: [02:02:30] <Kingy> gtx 560it
420: [02:02:33] <Kingy> 560ti
421: [02:02:37] <antmas> overheating?
422: [02:02:43] <Kingy> well yeah maybe
423: [02:02:56] <antmas> check temps
424: [02:02:56] <Kingy> hope that's all
425: [02:03:05] <Kingy> although doesn't bode well for bahrain does it
426: [02:03:10] <Kingy> can't handle 18deg here :P
427: [02:03:11] <antmas> lol
428: [02:03:14] <spronk2> yeahhhh
429: [02:03:17] * muskie9 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
430: [02:03:21] <spronk2> also
431: [02:03:22] <antmas> just dunk the whole box in mineral oil when you get there
432: [02:03:25] <spronk2> check that the fan hasn't just stopped working
433: [02:03:30] <spronk2> because that shit happens for realz
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435: [02:04:13] <antmas> spronk2: yeah my old GTX 275 did that
436: [02:04:16] <Kingy> spronk2, I can hear it when I play games, so I don't think it's died
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438: [02:04:37] <antmas> Kingy: what brand?
439: [02:04:41] <Kingy> asus
440: [02:05:03] <antmas> that EVGA temp tool should still work
441: [02:05:06] <Kingy> sitting at 43C now
442: [02:05:12] <spronk2> 43c is fine
443: [02:05:22] <spronk2> reseat it
444: [02:05:32] <antmas> 80+ is getting up there
445: [02:05:38] <Kingy> might fire up a game and see what it gets up to
446: [02:05:40] <antmas> 90+ is usually artifact territory
447: [02:05:48] <spronk2> yeah
448: [02:05:56] <spronk2> i'm generally not comfortable with any load temps above 75
449: [02:06:02] <antmas> spronk2: +1
450: [02:06:13] <spronk2> regardless of what nvidia say their thermal limitis
451: [02:06:31] <antmas> AMD straight up don't give a shit
452: [02:06:36] <spronk2> lolmm
453: [02:06:37] <antmas> ... and it shows
454: [02:06:44] <spronk2> yeah, their cards always top the unreliable chart
455: [02:06:53] <antmas> dat price though...
456: [02:07:10] <spronk2> http://www.hardware.fr/articles/927-1/taux-retour-composants-11.html
457: [02:07:29] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: which ones?
458: [02:07:35] <spronk2> Colin[pi] al
459: [02:07:36] <spronk2> l
460: [02:07:48] <Colin[pi]> oh nvidia in general?
461: [02:08:13] <antmas> tbh I've never had an issue with an AMD card
462: [02:08:52] <spronk2> amd in general
463: [02:08:54] <Colin[pi]> well, I've found this in general... nvidia = worse hardware, good drivers, amd = better hardware, piece of shit drivers
464: [02:09:00] <Kingy> ok
465: [02:09:04] <spronk2> nvidia hardware is way more reliable
466: [02:09:18] <spronk2> the gap between nvidia and amd is growing, really
467: [02:09:18] <Colin[pi]> sorry maybe I should say "performance"
468: [02:09:19] <Kingy> it got up to like 68-69
469: [02:09:28] <antmas> Kingy: that's fine
470: [02:09:31] <spronk2> yeah, fine
471: [02:09:34] <spronk2> reseat it
472: [02:09:34] <Kingy> I'd say if i played longer it'd probably go up more
473: [02:09:36] <Kingy> yeah
474: [02:09:47] <Kingy> i'm going to pull the thing apart at some point and clean it all up
475: [02:09:51] <Kingy> bit dusty in parts
476: [02:09:54] <antmas> blow on the cartridge
477: [02:09:55] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: have you replaced it's thermal goop?
478: [02:10:08] <Kingy> nope
479: [02:10:11] <Colin[pi]> mm
480: [02:10:13] <Kingy> don't have any spare
481: [02:10:18] <spronk2> http://www.hardware.fr/articles/927-5/cartes-graphiques.html
482: [02:10:19] <Colin[pi]> I had to do that on a few of my cards
483: [02:10:20] <antmas> artic silver 5 yo
484: [02:10:21] <spronk2> i mean
485: [02:10:23] <spronk2> just look at the list of unreliables
486: [02:10:26] <Colin[pi]> the stock stuff was like fucking tootpaste
487: [02:10:29] <Colin[pi]> *toothpaste
488: [02:10:33] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: it's all stock, so has been going strong for 3 years
489: [02:10:35] <antmas> toopaste
490: [02:10:45] <Colin[pi]> I replaced with AS5, and the temps dropped by 10C load, 25C idle (not kidding)
491: [02:10:55] <spronk2> 17 AMD, 6 nvidia
492: [02:11:00] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah that stuff is the best
493: [02:11:05] <Kingy> yeah I put AS5 on my CPU
494: [02:11:17] <spronk2> - 10,28% Radeon HD 7950
495: [02:11:20] <antmas> so close to ASS
496: [02:11:21] <spronk2> TEN PERCENT RETURN RATE
497: [02:11:57] <Colin[pi]> that's pretty bad lol
498: [02:12:16] <spronk2> their average is like
499: [02:12:17] <spronk2> 5%
500: [02:12:21] <spronk2> vs nvidia's like
501: [02:12:23] <spronk2> 2-3
502: [02:12:56] <antmas> I dunno, I feel like the gap is closer now than it was in the 8800gt days
503: [02:13:15] <antmas> back then AMD WAS a laughing stock compared to nvidia
504: [02:13:21] <spronk2> hmm
505: [02:13:22] <spronk2> sorta
506: [02:13:32] <spronk2> the 2xxx was shit
507: [02:13:42] <antmas> yeah I had one in my iMac
508: [02:13:44] <spronk2> the 38x0 wasn't actually bad, it just didn't target performance
509: [02:13:47] <antmas> 2900xt or whatever
510: [02:13:55] <spronk2> the 48x0 was faster than nvidia's offering
511: [02:13:59] <spronk2> iirc
512: [02:14:01] <Colin[pi]> I had to replace one of these in my son's pc the other day: http://hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1226/ati-radeon-hd-4830.jpg
513: [02:14:04] <antmas> yeah it was
514: [02:14:05] <Colin[pi]> that cooler does NOTHING
515: [02:14:12] <antmas> especially the 4870x2 thingy
516: [02:14:13] <spronk2> heh
517: [02:14:13] <spronk2> yeah
518: [02:14:16] <Colin[pi]> you could fry eggs on top
519: [02:14:22] <Colin[pi]> and that was idle
520: [02:14:25] * spronk2 had an asus matrix 4850
521: [02:14:37] <spronk2> ran fanless at idle, was quite nice
522: [02:14:38] <Colin[pi]> he started playing lego star wars and it crashed after 30 mins, frozen screen
523: [02:14:40] <spronk2> ... until the fan died.
524: [02:14:42] <antmas> I skipped that error and got a 275GTX
525: [02:14:53] <antmas> era*
526: [02:15:13] <antmas> then a 295gtx
527: [02:15:16] <Kingy> so AS5 still the go?
528: [02:15:21] <antmas> that shit was AWESOME
529: [02:15:24] <antmas> Kingy: yeah dude
530: [02:15:32] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: it's good, there's another one as well... cant remember the name
531: [02:15:40] <Kingy> MX-2?
532: [02:15:42] <antmas> Colin[pi]: it has silver in the name too
533: [02:15:45] <spronk2> voodoo 2 -> gf2 gts -> r 9800 pro -> gf 7600 when that died -> 3850 -> 4850 -> 660Ti
534: [02:15:59] <antmas> spronk2: sounds about right
535: [02:16:16] <spronk2> 100 points who can guess which was the most expensive
536: [02:16:23] <spronk2> to*
537: [02:16:29] <antmas> voodoo
538: [02:16:30] <antmas> ?
539: [02:16:32] <spronk2> neg.
540: [02:16:37] <antmas> 9800?
541: [02:16:41] <spronk2> FAILING HARD
542: [02:16:45] <antmas> I dunno
543: [02:17:00] <spronk2> i feel like i had something between the gts and 9800 pro...
544: [02:17:21] <spronk2> maybe not
545: [02:17:24] <spronk2> antmas: the gf2
546: [02:17:29] <spronk2> cost me $680 from tastech
547: [02:17:29] * spronk2 lols
548: [02:17:33] <antmas> woah
549: [02:17:35] <antmas> :P
550: [02:17:49] <Colin[pi]> I went: Voodoo Banshee -> TNT2 -> Ti4200 -> R9800 -> X1950 (PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT) -> 9600GT -> GTX 460 -> GTX 560 -> GTX 760 (current)
551: [02:17:51] * spronk2 is surprised that a) it's still the most expensive gpu i've bought
552: [02:17:51] <spronk2> and
553: [02:17:52] <antmas> I was PS1ing in that error
554: [02:17:53] <spronk2> b) tastech is still around.
555: [02:17:53] <spronk2> OHHH
556: [02:17:55] <spronk2> Ti4200
557: [02:18:01] * spronk2 forgot about that
558: [02:18:10] <Colin[pi]> it was the shit back in the day
559: [02:18:15] <spronk2> thats what i had between gf2 and 9800
560: [02:18:17] <spronk2> yeah
561: [02:18:22] <Colin[pi]> dat gainward "golden sample" ;P
562: [02:18:24] <spronk2> until the 9700/9800 came along
563: [02:18:25] <Colin[pi]> (lol @ name)
564: [02:18:37] <spronk2> lolmm
565: [02:18:39] <spronk2> and
566: [02:18:39] <spronk2> Leadtek
567: [02:18:41] <spronk2> Winfast
568: [02:18:42] * spronk2 lols
569: [02:18:48] <Colin[pi]> the 9800 pro prolly lasted me the longest of any card
570: [02:18:49] <antmas> I went Voodoo Banshee -> TNT2 -> Ti4200 -> R9800 -> can't remember -> 2900xt -> GTX 275 -> 6870
571: [02:18:57] <Kingy> what do you guys use to get the old paste off?
572: [02:19:02] <Colin[pi]> yay, banshee high five o/
573: [02:19:07] <antmas> Kingy: tongue
574: [02:19:10] <Colin[pi]> rofl
575: [02:19:12] <spronk2> Kingy arctic whatever it's called two part cleaner
576: [02:19:12] <antmas> Colin[pi]: o/
577: [02:19:19] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: soft cloth and isoproponal
578: [02:19:21] <spronk2> http://www.arcticsilver.com/arcticlean.htm
579: [02:19:21] <Colin[pi]> *nol
580: [02:19:25] <Kingy> antmas: figured that's how you'd roll
581: [02:19:31] <spronk2> yummy
582: [02:19:37] <Kingy> oh no shit spronk2 I actually think I have some of that
583: [02:19:42] <antmas> lick the spoon, lick the CPU
584: [02:19:44] <antmas> same thing
585: [02:20:14] <Colin[pi]> I like my current card, works well, nice and quiet and cool: http://www.asus.com/media/global/products/PHhRj62TjiwsJ9Hb/P_500.jpg
586: [02:20:31] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah its good, popular card
587: [02:20:32] <Colin[pi]> not like top of the line, but it does ok
588: [02:20:50] <antmas> my mate just bought the same thing today
589: [02:20:59] <antmas> will be an upgrade from his 8800gts :P
590: [02:21:05] <Colin[pi]> I must say though, WOW that noctua CPU cooler is the tits
591: [02:21:10] <Colin[pi]> so freakin awesome
592: [02:21:24] <antmas> Colin[pi]: the only good beige product
593: [02:21:28] <Colin[pi]> haha yes
594: [02:21:32] <Colin[pi]> barely fits in my case too
595: [02:21:35] <Colin[pi]> and it's a big case
596: [02:21:55] <antmas> Colin[pi]: that's what she said
597: [02:21:58] <antmas> oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
598: [02:22:18] <Colin[pi]> OH SNAP
599: [02:22:47] <Colin[pi]> but really it made the stock intel performance laughable in comparison
600: [02:22:58] <Colin[pi]> like, it didn't just school it, it DESTROYED it
601: [02:23:13] <Colin[pi]> under load it's now cooler than IDLE was before, lol
602: [02:23:17] <antmas> that is typically the case though
603: [02:23:27] <Kingy> I have the Cooler Master Hyper TX-2
604: [02:23:45] <Kingy> no wait
605: [02:23:46] <Kingy> 212
606: [02:23:47] <Kingy> http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/
607: [02:23:48] <Kingy> that one
608: [02:23:49] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: that looks similarly h00gemongous
609: [02:23:56] <antmas> I have the Cooler Master V10
610: [02:24:07] <antmas> it weighs 1.2kg :|
611: [02:24:21] <Colin[pi]> antmas: holy shit I know what you're refering to without searching
612: [02:24:21] <Kingy> wtf
613: [02:24:26] <Colin[pi]> those things are frickin HUGE
614: [02:24:27] <Kingy> how does that not snap off
615: [02:24:27] <Kingy> lol
616: [02:24:40] <antmas> I have no idea why I bought it
617: [02:24:43] <Colin[pi]> lol
618: [02:24:45] <antmas> not even that good :P
619: [02:24:48] <Colin[pi]> "IT WAS ON SPECIAL!"
620: [02:24:52] <antmas> hahaha
621: [02:25:05] <Colin[pi]> http://www.computershopper.com/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/slideshow/ces-2009/cooler-master-cyberpower-party-thursday-january-8-2009/cooler-master-v10-cooler/189589-1-eng-US/cooler-master-v10-cooler_slideshow_main.jpg
622: [02:25:08] <Colin[pi]> ^sweet jesus
623: [02:25:17] <Kingy> holeee shit
624: [02:25:26] <antmas> lol
625: [02:25:38] <antmas> it has RAM coolers because why the fuck not
626: [02:26:01] <Snowman23> Because it makes it harder to replace ram when ti breaks and doesn't provide a significant increase in reliability, speed, etc
627: [02:26:06] <Colin[pi]> it looks like K9 from doctor who: http://3.f.ix.de/imgs/18/3/7/4/6/3/9/730cfb10fd0e5f89.jpg
628: [02:26:08] <Snowman23> It makes your life harder for no benifit
629: [02:26:15] <antmas> it actually warps your PCB too
630: [02:26:42] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I... I assume it uses a backplate?
631: [02:26:52] <antmas> if the TEC cooler comes on, it sounds like a 90s movie laser
632: [02:26:54] <antmas> Colin[pi]: ofc
633: [02:27:00] <Colin[pi]> antmas: whew
634: [02:27:09] <Colin[pi]> "pew pew pew" ?
635: [02:27:24] <spronk2> holy shit
636: [02:27:26] <spronk2> that is massive
637: [02:27:28] <antmas> more like pewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 'oh god turn me off I'm like 12321312 degrees right now'
638: [02:27:49] <Colin[pi]> haha
639: [02:28:11] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: yeah it's kinda like "Cooler Master v10... because we can, that's why"
640: [02:28:40] <antmas> it is a really good cooler, but only under MASSIVE strain when OCing
641: [02:28:47] <antmas> otherwise, idle and temps are pretty average
642: [02:28:53] <Colin[pi]> antmas: is it noisy overall?
643: [02:28:58] <antmas> Colin[pi]: dead silent
644: [02:29:21] <Colin[pi]> well that's something :D
645: [02:29:25] <antmas> until the TEC is working
646: [02:29:31] <antmas> but then that's a fail safe
647: [02:30:07] <spronk2> tec?
648: [02:30:12] <Colin[pi]> yeah tec is what?
649: [02:30:24] <Colin[pi]> I was thinking it was something obvious I was missing
650: [02:30:34] <antmas> Thermal something cooling
651: [02:30:52] <antmas> tis weird, it's like an electic cooling pad
652: [02:31:16] <antmas> http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/v10/
653: [02:31:34] <antmas> I also have one of these that I never used http://www.quietpc.com/reserator-xt
654: [02:32:23] <Colin[pi]> I have too much bad luck in my life to use liquid cooling
655: [02:32:48] <Kingy> ^
656: [02:33:04] <Kingy> scared shitless of water cooling
657: [02:33:07] <Kingy> plus the hassle of it all
658: [02:33:34] <antmas> it's best just to stick to those closed loop ones
659: [02:33:48] <JeremyRoundill> antmas: Do you have your processor super-dooper overclocked?
660: [02:33:54] <antmas> can't go wrong with installing them, but the argument remains as to whether to bother with them
661: [02:33:57] <Colin[pi]> ah so TEC is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling
662: [02:34:00] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: I used to
663: [02:34:10] <spronk2> oh
664: [02:34:11] <spronk2> a peltier?
665: [02:34:16] <Colin[pi]> looks like it
666: [02:34:17] <spronk2> interesitng
667: [02:34:20] <antmas> that's it
668: [02:34:25] <spronk2> they were the shit back in athlonxp days
669: [02:34:27] <JeremyRoundill> antmas: Gotta get your hands on some liquid freon. :D
670: [02:34:35] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: haha
671: [02:34:49] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: I did do an OC with some friends using liquid nitrogen
672: [02:35:04] <antmas> but I had my last gaming machine at 4.6ghz from 2.8 stock
673: [02:35:15] <JeremyRoundill> I remember in electronics class they showed the theoretical processing power of an ipod cooled with liquid freon.
674: [02:35:28] <JeremyRoundill> Beat out the best processors we have by a factor of a few million.
675: [02:36:18] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: in theory it can totally, the only thing that stops it is stability
676: [02:36:26] <JeremyRoundill> :)
677: [02:37:46] <Colin[pi]> JeremyRoundill antmas: with this noctua apparently I can get my CPU up to 4GHz from 2.8GHz pretty easy: http://i.imgur.com/JWohk25.png
678: [02:37:58] <Colin[pi]> but I have it at 3.3Ghz or so for now
679: [02:38:46] <JeremyRoundill> My 660ti is factory 'clocked.
680: [02:38:48] <antmas> overclocking is so easy now
681: [02:38:53] <spronk2> yeah
682: [02:38:57] <spronk2> antmas remember the pencil trick?
683: [02:38:58] <JeremyRoundill> But I'm not sure I even want to overclock anything.
684: [02:38:59] <antmas> it used to be such a mission
685: [02:39:04] <antmas> spronk2: lol yeah I used it
686: [02:39:08] <JeremyRoundill> I play CS:GO at 1024x768 stretched
687: [02:39:08] <spronk2> :D
688: [02:39:11] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: I remember that, athlon right?
689: [02:39:18] <spronk2> yeah man
690: [02:39:26] <JeremyRoundill> Get 200-300fps, which is higher than my monitor can handle anyway
691: [02:39:32] <spronk2> use a graphite pencil to electrically bridge a laser cut gate on the cpu package
692: [02:39:33] <spronk2> pwn
693: [02:39:36] <antmas> never had an AMD cpu
694: [02:39:51] * spronk2 used to be all about AMD
695: [02:40:02] <Colin[pi]> yeah me too
696: [02:40:06] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: why that res?
697: [02:40:07] <Colin[pi]> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/AMD_Athlon_Pencil_Trick.jpg
698: [02:40:10] <Colin[pi]> ^ there it is
699: [02:40:30] <spronk2> duron 800 -> athlon 1.2 tbird (that thing was daaaangerous), axp 2000+, axp 2800+, a64-3200 s939, a64x2-3800 or something, core2
700: [02:40:36] <JeremyRoundill> antmas: It just seems easier to play with.
701: [02:40:42] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: really?
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703: [02:40:46] <spronk2> those first 4 cpus all ran on the same motherboard, impressively.
704: [02:40:56] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: my son's PC is an X2 939, still going strong!
705: [02:41:02] <JeremyRoundill> antmas: Feels like it.
706: [02:41:08] <antmas> I still rock a 775 mobo
707: [02:41:12] <spronk2> athlon64s were impressive cpus back in the day
708: [02:41:26] <Colin[pi]> yeah at the time, until the Core CPUs came around, AMD ruled
709: [02:41:28] <spronk2> they really were better than p4s
710: [02:41:29] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: huh, I just run standard 1080p
711: [02:41:43] <spronk2> now who knows wtf AMD are doing
712: [02:41:47] <antmas> Colin[pi]: Pentiums had their day
713: [02:41:52] <antmas> they were strong as
714: [02:42:02] <antmas> *some* of them anyway
715: [02:42:12] <spronk2> yeahh but typically you got waay more performance for your dollar with AMD
716: [02:42:13] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: was decision I think for AMD to take over Ati
717: [02:42:18] <Colin[pi]> *wise
718: [02:42:24] <Colin[pi]> otherwise they'd prolly be dead now
719: [02:42:27] <spronk2> mm
720: [02:42:35] <spronk2> though they're not exactly doing well against nvidia.. :p
721: [02:42:40] <Colin[pi]> well, yeah
722: [02:42:50] <antmas> Yeah I don't even know what AMD CPUs are anymore
723: [02:42:55] <antmas> Bulldozer something or other
724: [02:42:59] <spronk2> they have FX
725: [02:43:00] <spronk2> and
726: [02:43:01] <antmas> 6 core shitboxes
727: [02:43:02] <spronk2> A
728: [02:43:04] <Colin[pi]> lol
729: [02:43:10] <spronk2> 8 core even
730: [02:43:14] <spronk2> 225W TDP
731: [02:43:21] * spronk2 sniggers
732: [02:43:27] <Colin[pi]> which is a shame because they were the underdog and came out and trounced intel at one stage
733: [02:43:33] <spronk2> mm
734: [02:43:42] <spronk2> they even managed to get like
735: [02:43:42] <spronk2> dell
736: [02:43:43] <spronk2> onboard
737: [02:43:46] <antmas> they were all about the ghz
738: [02:43:47] <spronk2> for a while
739: [02:43:54] <antmas> now it's all about the cores for them
740: [02:44:07] <spronk2> their main issue now is IPC
741: [02:44:34] <spronk2> they can throw as many cores as they want, but with lower IPC they get slaughtered, and waste power doing so
742: [02:44:42] <antmas> at least they're trying something new like Mantle
743: [02:44:50] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: IPC?
744: [02:44:51] * spronk2 really does feel like intel are just idling along these days
745: [02:44:54] <spronk2> instructions per clock
746: [02:44:56] <Colin[pi]> ah k
747: [02:45:04] <spronk2> esp on the desktop
748: [02:45:08] <spronk2> intel have like... 8 core xeons
749: [02:45:23] <Colin[pi]> haha, neckbeards and their xeons
750: [02:45:26] <mahfuz> Hey how to change relationship link of one dataobject to another? (I mean in a one to many relationship one student can have multiple courses. how to replace course for a student)?
751: [02:45:31] <antmas> mmmm this workstation is a 6 core Zeon
752: [02:45:34] <spronk2> xeons are pretty cool
753: [02:45:35] <antmas> Xeon*
754: [02:45:42] <spronk2> go through extended verification and validation, too
755: [02:45:51] <Colin[pi]> yeah they are but kinda overhyped a bit :P
756: [02:45:54] <spronk2> so theoretically they are trustworthy with your dataz
757: [02:45:56] <spronk2> mm
758: [02:46:38] <Colin[pi]> still, I know one company here that use all apple stuff for their server farm
759: [02:46:41] <Colin[pi]> I'm like... dude
760: [02:46:55] <Colin[pi]> how much money do you have to burn, and when will you give me some?
761: [02:47:04] <antmas> Apple for server stuff is weird
762: [02:47:23] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah got to say, walking into the room is impressive
763: [02:47:24] <zippy> two mac mins will fit inside a 1u rack mount
764: [02:48:03] <antmas> this place seems to contstantly have new hardware bits and bobs going in and out of the server room
765: [02:48:15] * antmas never understands what it is they're changing
766: [02:48:19] <Colin[pi]> zippy: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--NZCho1LX--/187xm7bbkpv1fjpg.jpg
767: [02:48:24] <zippy> antmas: toys...
768: [02:48:33] <Colin[pi]> 4 mac minis even :D
769: [02:48:37] <spronk2> lol @ macmini servers
770: [02:48:48] <zippy> nice :)
771: [02:48:51] <antmas> yeah good luck administering that clusterfuck
772: [02:48:54] <spronk2> so (for lack of a better term, i am not a racist) maori
773: [02:49:21] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah I dont really get it... but they like it
774: [02:49:21] <zippy> tbh I would rather a mac server then windows :)\
775: [02:49:31] <Olliepop> ^
776: [02:49:32] <Colin[pi]> linux server only server
777: [02:49:42] <antmas> I should show that pic to our neckbeards
778: [02:49:46] <antmas> they will melt in place
779: [02:49:46] <spronk2> win servers are aaight
780: [02:49:46] <zippy> agree, linux would be prefered
781: [02:49:59] <mahfuz> can anyone give me some idea about my question above?
782: [02:50:29] <zippy> mahfuz: just add another has many?
783: [02:50:40] <zippy> another item to the hasMany array - you can have more than eon
784: [02:50:53] <antmas> Colin[pi]: just linked that image to our neckbeards
785: [02:51:02] <spronk2> wait
786: [02:51:05] <Colin[pi]> antmas: haha they reply yet?
787: [02:51:06] <Olliepop> mahfuz if you want to remove a course on student do $student->removeByID($courseID)
788: [02:51:07] <antmas> wait for the erruption of anti-apple slang
789: [02:51:10] <Colin[pi]> lol
790: [02:51:10] <spronk2> mahfuz - so... you have multiple links at the moment?
791: [02:51:20] <Olliepop> oops i meant $student->Courses()->removeByID($courseID)
792: [02:51:35] <Olliepop> then add a course with $student->Courses()->add($courseObject)
793: [02:51:37] <antmas> Colin[pi]: OMG
794: [02:51:43] <antmas> he just replied with 'nice'
795: [02:51:46] <Colin[pi]> lol
796: [02:51:54] <Colin[pi]> that was unexpected.
797: [02:52:17] <zippy> spronk2: hows that macbook going
798: [02:52:28] <antmas> Colin[pi]: it... it's weird
799: [02:52:32] <antmas> idgi
800: [02:54:38] <antmas> Apple server racks just don't look tr00 neckbeard
801: [02:55:02] <Colin[pi]> antmas: server racks are not supposed to look sexy like that
802: [02:55:11] <Stomach> mahfuz - be careful with removeByID that you arent passing a datalist or it will remove the actual course
803: [02:55:20] <Stomach> if its a has_many
804: [02:55:26] <mahfuz> Sorry my question was not clear I guess. Suppose there are courses with ID 31 and 32 and there are Students having Course 31 and 32. How can I change a record from Student dataobject to replace CourseID 31 with 32?
805: [02:55:32] <Colin[pi]> antmas: they're supposed to look like this GOD DAMMIT: http://www.axcessdatasolutions.com/images/dell_rack3_s4gb.jpg
806: [02:55:33] <antmas> Colin[pi]: that doesn't look good imo
807: [02:55:47] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol that is sexy!!!
808: [02:56:05] <Colin[pi]> http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn
809: [02:56:13] <Colin[pi]> (as in cabling, not pay tv)
810: [02:56:15] <Colin[pi]> :P
811: [02:56:44] <antmas> Colin[pi]: LOL
812: [02:57:22] <antmas> Colin[pi]: THAT http://imgur.com/a/8DS8N is nice
813: [02:57:35] <Colin[pi]> yeah that's one room to be proud of
814: [02:57:47] <Colin[pi]> it IS NASA, though :D
815: [02:57:53] <mahfuz> Other field value of the Student will remain same
816: [02:57:54] <antmas> indeed
817: [02:58:09] <Colin[pi]> hngggghhhhh: http://i.imgur.com/BG5zkJE.jpg
818: [02:58:22] <antmas> OMG
819: [02:58:28] <Colin[pi]> now that's nice
820: [02:58:30] <antmas> they're even labled
821: [02:58:39] * antmas 's OCD is on fire
822: [02:58:41] <Colin[pi]> hehehe
823: [02:59:49] <mahfuz> Stomach: and Zippy: can you please look at the clarification of my question?
824: [03:00:34] <mobiusnz> what's the shortcut in $allowed_actions to only allow logged in members?
825: [03:01:04] <Stomach> $oldCourse = $student->Courses()->filter('ID' => '31'); if ($oldCourse->count()) { $student->Courses()->removeByID(31); $student->Courses()->add(Course::get()->byID(32)); }
826: [03:01:04] <Stomach> ?
827: [03:01:22] <antmas> how do you write that so fast?
828: [03:01:24] <spronk2> zippy its alright
829: [03:01:31] <zippy> mobiusnz: 'myaction' => 'ADMIN', ?
830: [03:01:32] <spronk2> zippy feels a bit slow :(
831: [03:01:40] <spronk2> tbh i think it's just OS X vs win7
832: [03:01:44] <mobiusnz> zippy: like that, but any member
833: [03:01:49] <Stomach> antmas - its, like, typing
834: [03:01:52] <Stomach> you type it
835: [03:02:03] <mahfuz> Thanks Stomach I will give it a try
836: [03:02:07] <spronk2> hadn't used a mac as my main machine in ages, so spoilt with windows' UI zippiness
837: [03:02:11] <spronk2> ... zippiness
838: [03:02:12] * spronk2 lols
839: [03:02:24] <zippy> ....
840: [03:02:33] <zippy> mobiusnz: um, search ze codes
841: [03:03:15] <zippy> got a god damn big pimple on the side of my kneck that just wont pop!
842: [03:03:26] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: haha yep I caved and boot camped on my MBP after about 6 months
843: [03:03:38] <spronk2> i don't know wtf it is
844: [03:03:49] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: ?
845: [03:04:05] <spronk2> well when i was last using mac as primary machine it was a 2008 mbp 2.4 c2d
846: [03:04:07] <spronk2> and..
847: [03:04:14] <spronk2> this machine feels slower than that one did back then
848: [03:04:25] <spronk2> with more or less the same setup, just newer software
849: [03:04:28] <zippy> spronk2: you looked at activity monitor? maybe it's some stupid program in the background or something?
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852: [03:05:27] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/2e416b60f31c...fe0d330c59fd
853: [03:05:27] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/41437761
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855: [03:05:28] <spronk2> zippy yeah, i have
856: [03:05:42] <spronk2> the iris pro in this doesn't seem to like handling the internal display + 1x 2560x1440 27"
857: [03:05:47] <spronk2> expose chugs like a motherfucker
858: [03:05:51] <antmas> some silly background thing shouldn't slow a brand new mbp down to less than a c2d
859: [03:06:08] <spronk2> i think it's something since mavs/yosemite
860: [03:06:26] <spronk2> because i remember expose being buttery smooth on my c2d like... 4 years ago
861: [03:06:30] <antmas> yosemite sped our old c2d mb up a LOT
862: [03:06:31] <spronk2> with the same external display
863: [03:06:35] <spronk2> hmm
864: [03:06:59] <spronk2> http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/2kgkof/
865: [03:07:00] <antmas> spronk2: SSD?
866: [03:07:02] <spronk2> seems like other people are noticing it as well
867: [03:07:04] <spronk2> antmas jaja
868: [03:07:15] <spronk2> expose is a massive part of my workflow when on mac
869: [03:07:39] <spronk2> interestingly, even holding shift to slow it down it can't keep a smooth animation
870: [03:08:04] <antmas> that sucks
871: [03:08:23] <spronk2> otherwise it's alright
872: [03:08:25] <spronk2> battery is pretty nice
873: [03:08:32] <spronk2> not even bothering to take charger home
874: [03:08:36] <spronk2> except on weekend
875: [03:08:37] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
876: [03:08:39] * _muskie9_ is now known as muskie9
877: [03:08:53] <zippy> tried turing off the transparency?
878: [03:08:58] * spronk2 has it off
879: [03:09:13] <Olliepop> Unfortunately I don't think a 2011 Mac Mini should be expected to seamlessly run Yosemite..
880: [03:09:26] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: wow massive diff in those videos in that thread
881: [03:09:27] <spronk2> ... why not
882: [03:09:28] <spronk2> ?
883: [03:09:35] <spronk2> Colin[pi] yeah, mine is like the slower of the two
884: [03:09:37] <antmas> spronk2: because Apple
885: [03:09:38] <Colin[pi]> :(
886: [03:09:54] <spronk2> the quad core 2011 minis have more power than the brand new ones
887: [03:09:55] <spronk2> so... yknow
888: [03:10:02] <antmas> logic
889: [03:10:48] <Kingy> CS:GO tonight peeps?
890: [03:10:58] <antmas> Kingy: mebbe
891: [03:11:07] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: might be able to, will be late though :\
892: [03:13:11] * spronk2 should get in on this csgo action
893: [03:13:18] <antmas> spronk2: do it
894: [03:13:21] <spronk2> does csgo run on maczor?
895: [03:13:27] <antmas> yarp?
896: [03:13:30] <spronk2> oo
897: [03:13:33] <zippy> spronk2: should of just got a mac pro
898: [03:13:38] <Colin[pi]> haha
899: [03:13:41] <spronk2> and a few car batteries?
900: [03:13:47] <Hailwood> Hey guys, does anyone know of a "combobox" type control for Silverstripe?
901: [03:13:51] <spronk2> and duct taped them to some strap?
902: [03:13:56] <spronk2> and wore them on my back?
903: [03:13:58] <spronk2> Backtop
904: [03:14:04] <Colin[pi]> zippy: http://i.imgur.com/2fC2ThM.jpg
905: [03:14:22] <antmas> spronk2: yup, mac compatible http://store.steampowered.com/app/730/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1
906: [03:14:25] <spronk2> awesome
907: [03:14:40] <antmas> do we have a 5 man team now?
908: [03:14:54] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: Kingy Colin[pi] spronk2 Blacklite antmas
909: [03:14:57] <antmas> that's 6
910: [03:14:58] <antmas> so yey!
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912: [03:15:09] <spronk2> i probably won't be playing tonight :P
913: [03:15:09] <zippy> spronk2: upgraded to 10.10.1 ?
914: [03:15:14] <spronk2> i think so
915: [03:15:21] <spronk2> yes
916: [03:15:21] <spronk2> i have
917: [03:15:27] <Kingy> we even have reserves lol
918: [03:15:36] <Kingy> madmatt plays
919: [03:15:37] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
920: [03:15:40] <spronk2> wait
921: [03:15:43] <spronk2> do i even own csgo
922: [03:15:43] <Colin[pi]> Hailwood: you mean like a select list that you can also type into?
923: [03:15:50] <antmas> spronk2: you in the IRC group?
924: [03:15:55] <spronk2> yas
925: [03:16:21] <antmas> I find the loadout screen for CS:GO super confusing
926: [03:16:30] <antmas> in the matchmaking screen
927: [03:16:36] <Hailwood> Colin[pi]: Yep
928: [03:16:46] <zippy> oh yea, looks like it'd work fine on my macbook air...
929: [03:16:54] <novaweb> WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY WHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
930: [03:17:12] * LoveDuckie quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
931: [03:17:30] <Hailwood> I don't care about saving whatever they type as an option for the future, but if it can that's cool too. Basically I just want to offer some preset statuses, else let them type their own in
932: [03:18:01] <spronk2> o_O
933: [03:18:26] <Colin[pi]> Hailwood: could use a bootstrap one like this? http://bootstrap-combobox-test.herokuapp.com/
934: [03:19:58] <Hailwood> Colin[pi]: Yeah, I can use one of the many out there - I was just wondering if anyone has integrated one already to save a bit of time, if not then I'll do that.
935: [03:20:02] <Colin[pi]> a field like that as a standard field in SS would be really sweet actually
936: [03:21:27] <antmas> Kingy: JeremyRoundill ya'll know any good upskilling guides for CSGO?
937: [03:21:50] * novaweb quit (Quit: Leaving)
938: [03:21:51] <spronk2> antmas use your ears.
939: [03:22:06] * _muskie9_ quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
940: [03:22:22] <JeremyRoundill> antmas: I find it's strategy which is usually the best.
941: [03:22:36] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: +1
942: [03:22:52] <Colin[pi]> CS:GO is SO MUCH listening
943: [03:23:08] <Colin[pi]> which is why I mute those annoying fuckers that get in there and use it as a fucking chat channel
944: [03:23:11] * spronk2 used to be a knife fiend in cs1.x
945: [03:23:38] <antmas> yeah I know the listening part
946: [03:24:17] <Colin[pi]> Hailwood: not really combobox, but you could use: http://jqueryui.com/autocomplete/
947: [03:24:38] <Kingy> antmas: watch some tournaments
948: [03:24:48] <Colin[pi]> listening and aim
949: [03:24:54] <Colin[pi]> aim for the head, every time
950: [03:24:57] <Kingy> basically you needa no where to throw nades and shit
951: [03:25:02] <Kingy> and u need a good team lol
952: [03:25:30] <Kingy> so much better when you play with a team who knows what to do and work together
953: [03:25:41] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: yeah
954: [03:25:52] <spronk2> sooo much better.
955: [03:26:01] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: played much casual? makes me rage
956: [03:26:24] <Colin[pi]> like, in Assault on T's... some fuckface will always ALWAYS break the vent that exits into the office
957: [03:26:25] <spronk2> i used to have a keybind that reset my vertical view point
958: [03:26:32] <antmas> yeah don't play causal if you want to have a good time
959: [03:26:41] <Colin[pi]> I'm like DONT BREAK THAT YOU FUCKWIT, now you cant hear when the CT falls out
960: [03:26:47] <spronk2> heh
961: [03:26:47] <spronk2> yeah
962: [03:26:47] <antmas> I know aiming and my mouse is set up fine
963: [03:26:57] <antmas> but recoil and patterning is what I'm after
964: [03:27:20] <Colin[pi]> antmas: there are some good videos on youtube about that
965: [03:27:22] <spronk2> fire like
966: [03:27:25] <spronk2> two shots
967: [03:27:28] <spronk2> then a break
968: [03:27:30] <spronk2> repeat
969: [03:27:39] <Colin[pi]> antmas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6K20MI_Pl4
970: [03:27:48] <Colin[pi]> ^ this one is quite good
971: [03:27:51] <Kingy> antmas: just jump on a map by yourself and shoot a wall
972: [03:28:04] <Kingy> practice short bursts and shit
973: [03:28:14] <Colin[pi]> yeah dont spray, short bursts
974: [03:28:25] <Colin[pi]> or just... tap tap tap with your finger on the mouse
975: [03:28:54] <antmas> guis
976: [03:29:04] <antmas> I'm not a total n00b :P
977: [03:29:21] <antmas> NiP had some good tip videos
978: [03:29:30] <antmas> same with casey
979: [03:29:53] <Kingy> i'm watching NiP fragmovie/doco about EPL One this year
980: [03:29:55] <Kingy> fuck it's intense
981: [03:30:08] <Kingy> http://cdn2.esl.tv/fileadmin/user_upload/ESL_ONE/csgo-gamescom-2014/website/csgolargepicture.jpg
982: [03:30:42] <antmas> nice
983: [03:30:46] <Kingy> antmas: nothing to do but come play and have some fun with us :)
984: [03:30:54] <antmas> Kingy: YES
985: [03:31:37] <Colin[pi]> yeah NiP are nuts
986: [03:31:47] <Colin[pi]> as in like crazy good nuts
987: [03:31:55] * spekulatius quit (Quit: Leaving)
988: [03:32:36] <antmas> indeed
989: [03:32:39] <Kingy> this is awesome
990: [03:32:41] <Kingy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37-Kkuk_2nc&list=UUjsI5DaCl64zRxqYYep0T_A
991: [03:32:45] <JeremyRoundill> And I feel cool when I shoot a guy who's jumping through smoke.
992: [03:32:48] <Kingy> watch it if you get a chance
993: [03:32:51] * spronk2 has probably lost allhis old cs skill :(
994: [03:33:04] <Kingy> NiP basically clawed there way through this tournament
995: [03:33:49] <antmas> moving WITH the corners is such an old trick, but NO ONE does it
996: [03:33:55] <antmas> best tip I ever got in 1.6 days
997: [03:34:10] <spronk2> "moving with the corners" ?
998: [03:34:36] <antmas> spronk2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L6K20MI_Pl4#t=163
999: [03:34:56] * willr quit (Quit: willr)
1000: [03:34:56] <Kingy> we should go to one of these tournaments one day
1001: [03:35:22] <spronk2> nah
1002: [03:35:23] <spronk2> bad tip
1003: [03:35:23] <spronk2> :p
1004: [03:35:25] * Kingy wonders if it'd be anything like the darts
1005: [03:35:31] <spronk2> use ears to figure out whether guy is there or not
1006: [03:35:32] <Kingy> drink and chant
1007: [03:35:33] <spronk2> then decid
1008: [03:35:34] <spronk2> e
1009: [03:35:41] <Kingy> spronk2: except if nuke coz it sucks
1010: [03:36:35] <antmas> spronk2: nah dude, no sound does not equal no guy
1011: [03:36:44] <Colin[pi]> would love to see f0rest in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQNP7w8q3R4
1012: [03:36:47] <Colin[pi]> guy is a freak
1013: [03:37:10] <spronk2> i know, antmas
1014: [03:37:13] <spronk2> but in that position...
1015: [03:37:49] <antmas> spronk2: yeah would depend on situation totally
1016: [03:38:08] <antmas> REALLY wants to play CS now
1017: [03:38:19] <Kingy> almost 5 antmas :P
1018: [03:39:10] <antmas> I have stuff to do at home first of course :P
1019: [03:39:13] <antmas> damn family
1020: [03:39:18] <antmas> always getting in the way
1021: [03:39:34] <Kingy> friberg looks like a bit loveable chap doesn't he
1022: [03:39:50] <Kingy> big*
1023: [03:40:17] <JeremyRoundill> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrhUlsUz3g
1024: [03:42:50] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: oh my god
1025: [03:43:00] <antmas> that's so discouraging lol
1026: [03:43:45] <antmas> when you notice he's strafing every time he shoots you'll shit bricks
1027: [03:44:27] <Colin[pi]> yeah these guys are crazy good
1028: [03:44:55] <JeremyRoundill> :D
1029: [03:45:01] <JeremyRoundill> I'll have to get that map
1030: [03:45:09] <antmas> aim>strafe>shoot? or strafe>aim>shoot?
1031: [03:45:16] <antmas> I think the latter
1032: [03:45:20] <JeremyRoundill> aim+strafe>shoot
1033: [03:45:25] <antmas> yeah?
1034: [03:45:27] <spronk2> bind shoot to shift+shoot
1035: [03:45:28] <spronk2> :)
1036: [03:45:29] <spronk2> or
1037: [03:45:31] <spronk2> walk + shoot
1038: [03:45:40] <antmas> he's basically jesus then
1039: [03:47:08] <Colin[pi]> that knife he has too is like $370 lol
1040: [03:47:13] <Kingy> getting that map now
1041: [03:47:14] <Kingy> lo
1042: [03:47:43] <Colin[pi]> when I played casual, seemed like everyone had a fancy knife except me D:
1043: [03:48:02] <Kingy> i ani't wasting my money
1044: [03:48:06] <antmas> Colin[pi]: only l33t play with vanilla knife
1045: [03:48:33] <antmas> at lvl100 all you get is a spoon and you're locked to it
1046: [03:48:53] <Colin[pi]> haha
1047: [03:49:27] <antmas> but you can still apply skull skins to it
1048: [03:49:28] <antmas> :P
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1050: [03:56:03] <Kingy> ps that cunt is insane
1051: [03:56:06] <Kingy> I did his settings
1052: [03:56:08] <Colin[pi]> antmas: ever see this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMs6yx5LAWU
1053: [03:56:12] <Kingy> got 5/25 with 39 shots
1054: [03:56:20] <Colin[pi]> :o
1055: [03:56:51] <mobiusnz> is it possible to filter a dataset with a dynamic column?
1056: [03:57:05] <Kingy> 11 that time :P
1057: [03:57:31] <mobiusnz> I can do it with SQLQuery, but I'd like to be able to move it into SS' model
1058: [03:57:37] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I remember that one, total random knife though
1059: [03:57:43] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yep lol
1060: [03:58:03] <Colin[pi]> there was another one where it bounched of a heli and landed on a prone sniper, rofl
1061: [03:58:07] <Colin[pi]> completely random
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1063: [03:58:46] <antmas> yeah I saw one where 2 team mates threw tomohawks at each other, they bounced off each other and killed 2 incoming enemies
1064: [03:58:48] <antmas> nuts
1065: [03:59:20] <Colin[pi]> found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YVQOzYDU0
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1067: [04:00:35] <antmas> this rocket revenge is pretty good
1068: [04:00:36] <antmas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9qCTidY25o
1069: [04:01:38] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol epic
1070: [04:01:45] <Colin[pi]> hahaha that rocket one is amazing
1071: [04:02:59] <Kingy> wow that's gold
1072: [04:03:03] <antmas> total luck that his rocket launch landed that way
1073: [04:03:07] <antmas> launcher*
1074: [04:03:10] <antmas> so it tracket back
1075: [04:03:17] * antmas can't computer
1076: [04:03:22] <Colin[pi]> yeah the gun just landed pointing to the ground lol
1077: [04:10:11] <antmas> oh my go
1078: [04:10:14] <antmas> god*
1079: [04:10:18] <antmas> mate just sent me a txt
1080: [04:10:28] <antmas> he got flown up to Auckland today for an interview
1081: [04:10:51] <antmas> recruiter met him, said his hair was too long, change his return flight immediately and sent him home
1082: [04:11:02] <Colin[pi]> what
1083: [04:11:03] <Colin[pi]> the
1084: [04:11:04] <Colin[pi]> fuck
1085: [04:11:04] <Colin[pi]> ?
1086: [04:11:08] <Kingy> lololol
1087: [04:11:12] <Stomach> yaaaaay just switched grunt to gulp
1088: [04:11:15] <antmas> that's like, the RUDEST thing
1089: [04:11:22] <Snowman23> rofl antmas
1090: [04:11:22] <Stomach> 18ms rather than 1.5 second css builds ftw
1091: [04:11:38] <spronk2> grunt isnt that bad man
1092: [04:12:03] <antmas> Snowman23: :(
1093: [04:12:09] <antmas> my mate is really upset about it!
1094: [04:12:17] <Stomach> spronk2 - yeah I know, but the faster CSS builds are all we were really after
1095: [04:12:24] <antmas> his hair is like 1/3 the lenght of yours Snowman23
1096: [04:12:25] <Stomach> when it starts effecting your workflow then its sucky
1097: [04:12:35] <spronk2> hmm
1098: [04:12:39] <spronk2> my css builds are reasonably fast..
1099: [04:12:45] <spronk2> what were you using with grunt?
1100: [04:12:45] <antmas> Stomach: 1.5 seconds upsets your workflow?
1101: [04:12:59] <Stomach> antmas - yeah one every 100 times I will have to double refresh
1102: [04:13:02] <Snowman23> recruiters suck!
1103: [04:13:28] <Stomach> spronk2 - grunt-less, grunt-cssmin and whatnot
1104: [04:13:40] <spronk2> hmm
1105: [04:13:44] <spronk2> wonder why gulp is so much faster for you
1106: [04:14:02] <antmas> Stomach: spronk2 yeah 1.5 seconds is a lot longer than what I ever see
1107: [04:14:29] <Stomach> spronk2 - its my developers shitty computers :P
1108: [04:14:38] <spronk2> hmmm
1109: [04:14:41] <spronk2> but..
1110: [04:14:51] <spronk2> grunt and gulp for me are more or less the same speed
1111: [04:15:24] <spronk2> oo
1112: [04:15:26] <spronk2> i dooo have this
1113: [04:15:28] <spronk2> CSO
1114: [04:15:28] <spronk2> G
1115: [04:15:35] <antmas> spronk2: :D
1116: [04:15:57] <spronk2> wonder if i can dl csgo quickfast
1117: [04:16:12] <antmas> is it like 14gb or something?
1118: [04:16:14] <antmas> I forget
1119: [04:16:18] <spronk2> oh wat
1120: [04:16:21] <spronk2> rly
1121: [04:16:31] <antmas> maybe it's closer to 8
1122: [04:16:33] <spronk2> ugh
1123: [04:16:34] <spronk2> damn steam
1124: [04:16:42] * spronk2 has one of those oldschool steam accounts where username is an email addy'
1125: [04:16:55] <spronk2> despite my steam name being different
1126: [04:17:42] * spronk2 wonders how fast this will dl
1127: [04:17:54] <spronk2> estimated; 27 minutes
1128: [04:17:59] <antmas> spronk2: I was wrong, it's about 4gb
1129: [04:18:03] <antmas> max
1130: [04:18:07] <spronk2> 4.4GB
1131: [04:18:13] <antmas> there we go
1132: [04:18:16] <antmas> should be quick :D
1133: [04:18:25] <spronk2> 10 miunutes apparently
1134: [04:18:38] <spronk2> might download this while i wait for the rain to maybe stop
1135: [04:18:54] <antmas> knowing Valve it's probably 1/2 cached when you download steam :P
1136: [04:19:10] * Colin[pi] goes to check vdsl provider website for service at his address
1137: [04:19:14] * Colin[pi] is once again disappointed
1138: [04:19:34] <Snowman23> Fibre 4 lyfe
1139: [04:19:40] <antmas> lol wishful thinking Colin[pi] ?
1140: [04:19:58] <spronk2> yeahh
1141: [04:20:02] <spronk2> at home... 10mbit dsl :(
1142: [04:20:06] <spronk2> at work: 200mbit fibre!
1143: [04:20:14] <Colin[pi]> antmas: all the surrounding suburbs have been installed... Y U NO INSTALL HERE? ;_;
1144: [04:20:22] * spronk2 knows that feeling, Colin[pi] l
1145: [04:20:23] <zippy> 100mbit at home here
1146: [04:20:36] <spronk2> hate you so much right now <3
1147: [04:21:01] <Colin[pi]> hey zippy: http://i.imgur.com/4FmTwg8.gif
1148: [04:21:03] <zippy> can't justify the 200mbit plan, would need to update my lan a bit :) and 100 is plenty fast
1149: [04:21:11] * Hailwood quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1150: [04:21:33] <antmas> DO I HAVE TO POST MY HOUSE PIC ON THE CHORUS MAP AGAIN?
1151: [04:21:34] * Stomach quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
1152: [04:21:35] <antmas> literally
1153: [04:21:42] <antmas> 4m away from fibre cut off
1154: [04:22:12] <zippy> step 1, dig whole
1155: [04:22:24] <zippy> step 2, cut the fiber
1156: [04:22:27] <antmas> lol
1157: [04:22:33] <zippy> step 3, wait for chorus van roll out
1158: [04:22:38] <zippy> step 4, bribe the guy :)
1159: [04:22:49] <antmas> I've been out looking for the nearest fibre point :P
1160: [04:22:57] <antmas> it's about 15m from the house
1161: [04:23:11] <spronk2> D:
1162: [04:23:16] <spronk2> suuuurely you could get fibre
1163: [04:23:22] <antmas> I'm going to call chorus and tell them someone is tampering with it
1164: [04:23:27] <antmas> and then poop on it
1165: [04:23:29] <antmas> and run
1166: [04:23:33] <antmas> then watch from bushes
1167: [04:23:43] <antmas> A+ plan
1168: [04:23:49] <Kingy> any of you fuckers home yet
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1170: [04:23:56] <Kingy> i wanna game :D
1171: [04:23:58] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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1173: [04:27:55] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1174: [04:29:51] <spronk2> HOEM TIEM
1175: [04:29:51] <spronk2> BAI
1176: [04:30:18] * spronk2 quit (Quit: I may need a longer sleep timer...)
1177: [04:30:25] * Ryan-Toast has joined #silverstripe
1178: [04:30:26] <Colin[pi]> see y... oh he's gone
1179: [04:31:04] <Snowman23> lol
1180: [04:31:43] <Kingy> Colin[pi]: there is always that awkward moment
1181: [04:31:56] <Kingy> do you hang around and wait until someone says goodbye
1182: [04:32:00] <Colin[pi]> lol
1183: [04:32:05] <Kingy> does anyone care you're going
1184: [04:32:06] <Colin[pi]> I know that moment
1185: [04:32:08] <Kingy> i mean...
1186: [04:32:09] <Colin[pi]> I wait about 10 secs
1187: [04:32:18] <Colin[pi]> "bye... .... .... well fuck you all then"
1188: [04:32:39] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1189: [04:38:41] <simon_w|work> Seeing my timezone as UTC+11 looks weird
1190: [04:38:57] <Kingy> ohgod waht's bahrain
1191: [04:39:07] <Kingy> I have all the times figured out
1192: [04:39:13] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: 7:40am atm
1193: [04:39:15] <Kingy> working in stock exchange is great for that
1194: [04:39:34] <Kingy> yeah 10 hours behind
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1199: [04:52:36] <Snowman23> Yo
1200: [04:52:42] <Snowman23> For userform submissions that get emailed out...
1201: [04:52:52] <Snowman23> It's just a userforms template, right?
1202: [04:52:55] <Snowman23> Someone wants to change the font
1203: [04:54:50] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: just this, isn't it? https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-userforms/blob/master/templates/email/SubmittedFormEmail.ss
1204: [04:54:57] <Snowman23> Yeah
1205: [04:54:59] <Snowman23> They want to customize the font
1206: [04:55:05] <Snowman23> Wondering about the best way to add CSS to it
1207: [04:55:10] <Colin[pi]> well uh
1208: [04:55:16] <Colin[pi]> css + emails = pain in the dick
1209: [04:55:20] <Colin[pi]> but
1210: [04:55:28] <Colin[pi]> you should be able to embed in a style attribute
1211: [04:56:08] <Snowman23> It's just a font
1212: [04:56:20] <Snowman23> I'm not worried about compatibility, I'm just not sure how best to do it on the SilverStripe side
1213: [04:56:28] <Colin[pi]> oic
1214: [04:56:31] <Snowman23> The template has a $body but that's probably not going to work well
1215: [04:56:39] <Snowman23> So I'm wondering whether I should subclass it and override the template or what
1216: [04:56:42] <Snowman23> What do you think, Colin[pi]?
1217: [04:57:09] <Colin[pi]> do you need to subclass? you can just override the template, no?
1218: [04:57:18] <Colin[pi]> wait, where is the font being defined?
1219: [04:57:20] <Snowman23> Can you do that?
1220: [04:57:21] <Snowman23> uh
1221: [04:57:26] <Snowman23> No where yet, but it's just Arial
1222: [04:58:06] <Snowman23> If I put in a template named the sam thing, how does it know which to pick?
1223: [04:58:35] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: it has a loading order, it's listed somewhere
1224: [04:58:42] <Colin[pi]> I tried to find this the other day actually :o
1225: [04:58:48] <Snowman23> Okay I test this on dev and hope it works
1226: [04:58:48] <Snowman23> ty
1227: [04:58:53] <Colin[pi]> wait here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24969798/blog-template-isnt-overridden
1228: [04:59:02] <Colin[pi]> subtheme -> theme -> module -> project
1229: [04:59:04] <micmania1> Snowman23: your theme gets priority.
1230: [04:59:16] <Colin[pi]> that's micmania1's post on SO too :D
1231: [04:59:38] <micmania1> ha! so it is
1232: [04:59:53] <Snowman23> ty
1233: [05:00:05] <Colin[pi]> yeah just stick it in your theme and it should override
1234: [05:00:09] <Colin[pi]> I use this method all the time
1235: [05:00:16] <Snowman23> cool
1236: [05:00:17] <Colin[pi]> install modules which have the "defaults"
1237: [05:00:25] <Colin[pi]> and then if I need to customise, stick something in the theme
1238: [05:04:09] <Colin[pi]> oh, that's why my template wasn't working... I called it Resluts instead of Results
1239: [05:12:49] <markcl> Lol. You need to get out of the computer.
1240: [05:17:35] <Colin[pi]> ^.^
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1242: [05:18:58] <Snowman23> ^.^
1243: [05:22:28] <Kingy> got some AS5 on the way
1244: [05:22:37] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: aw yiss
1245: [05:22:48] <Kingy> be a big weekend
1246: [05:22:56] <Kingy> going to clean the beat
1247: [05:23:07] <Kingy> reseat shit
1248: [05:23:17] <Colin[pi]> mm I took mine completely apart and cleaned the lot about a month ago
1249: [05:23:21] <Kingy> hookup fan controller etc
1250: [05:23:25] <Kingy> yeah
1251: [05:23:33] <Colin[pi]> bit of work, but good feelz
1252: [05:23:39] <Kingy> after today i'm think it needs to be done before moving into hot
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1256: [05:50:26] <simon_w|work> Hooray! Got type hints being stripped in our Grunt process, so I can use Flow now :)
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1263: [06:18:33] <Stomach> simon_w|work - you using it on compiled stuff?
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1268: [06:38:20] <simon_w|work> Stomach, nope, but you need to remove the type hints before browsers like you
1269: [06:38:49] <Stomach> oh, I see
1270: [06:38:59] <Stomach> :D
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1305: [09:12:09] <cupcake> im having some issue with grid field when i click on the column header or try to move to next page after clicking the gridfield disappears
1306: [09:12:13] <cupcake> any idea why?
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1309: [09:20:49] <cupcake> anyone?
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1314: [09:47:28] <kinglozzer> cupcake: Error logs? JavaScript errors in console?
1315: [09:53:47] <kinglozzer> FUUUUU
1316: [09:54:02] <kinglozzer> Snowman23, simon_w: git is doing it again, in a different repo this time :|
1317: [09:54:06] <Snowman23> lol
1318: [09:54:10] <Snowman23> What was teh cause last time?
1319: [09:54:14] <kinglozzer> nfi
1320: [09:54:15] <simon_w> kinglozzer, sucks to be you!
1321: [09:54:20] <kinglozzer> git reset solved it, but I just did that ! :(
1322: [09:54:25] * simon_w is doing OCaml
1323: [09:54:27] <Snowman23> git reset --hard
1324: [09:54:28] <Snowman23> ;)
1325: [09:54:34] <Snowman23> warning
1326: [09:54:37] <Snowman23> that will murder your changes
1327: [09:55:06] <kinglozzer> Snowman23: Yeah that's what I did! :(
1328: [09:55:17] <kinglozzer> Well, reset --hard origin master
1329: [09:55:20] <Snowman23> clone again?
1330: [09:55:21] <Snowman23> idk man
1331: [09:55:24] <kinglozzer> Shieeet
1332: [09:55:25] <Snowman23> Check out the git source code
1333: [09:55:26] <Snowman23> fix it
1334: [09:55:26] <Snowman23> o/
1335: [09:56:02] <kinglozzer> Ugh. Well, it's fixed
1336: [09:56:15] <kinglozzer> git reset --hard (again) let me add 4 out of the 5 that I couldn't add
1337: [09:56:24] <kinglozzer> then ANOTHER git reset --hard after that let me add the last one
1338: [09:56:32] <kinglozzer> O.o
1339: [09:56:41] <kinglozzer> Someone in #git suggested line endings or something but idk
1340: [09:56:49] <Snowman23> That seems unlikely
1341: [09:57:25] <kinglozzer> Seems unlikely in an image :/
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1343: [09:58:40] <Pyslk> lol
1344: [09:58:40] <Snowman23> apt-get update git?
1345: [09:58:51] <Pyslk> pacman -Syu
1346: [09:59:03] <Snowman23> emerge --deep --newuse --update world -pv
1347: [09:59:58] <Eliseth> When using fullscreen editor the insert image and insert link buttons don't work, I noticed this problem going back at least to 2009 when googling, but was wondering if there has been a fix of sorts since then? Is it a bug? Working as intended?
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1349: [10:00:04] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> hi
1350: [10:00:30] <Snowman23> Eliseth: Well tinymce has had updates, but SilverStripe hasn't updated
1351: [10:00:44] <Pyslk> Eliseth: why fullscreen?
1352: [10:00:45] <Snowman23> Eliseth: There's always a question of how much we want to fix these bugs that we can fix by not using tinymce old versions...
1353: [10:01:07] <Eliseth> Pyslk: Client wishes...
1354: [10:01:16] <Pyslk> also, image insert is not tinymce code. I suspect that it's working, just the fullscreen overlay is covering it.
1355: [10:01:38] <Pyslk> Eliseth: ah, always with the client wishes :<
1356: [10:01:46] <Pyslk> hi Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54
1357: [10:01:48] <Eliseth> That's what I suspect as well, same as insert link, since both are silverstripe popups
1358: [10:01:56] <Pyslk> yup
1359: [10:02:08] <Eliseth> So it's a tinyMCE bug, not silverstripe?
1360: [10:02:19] <Pyslk> well...
1361: [10:02:23] <Snowman23> Well evne if it's SilverStripe...
1362: [10:02:30] <Pyslk> not really a bug, more of a matter having the two not playing nice.
1363: [10:02:30] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> Question: I've got apache2 with php5 and mysql but going on the silverstripe site via firefox only gives me some phpcode "$snLen && substr($ etc..."
1364: [10:02:31] <Snowman23> Upgrading TinyMCE will mean the work we do here would hvae to be done again
1365: [10:02:43] <Snowman23> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: Sounds like you haven't got apache2 + php5 working together right
1366: [10:02:52] <Pyslk> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: did you just wait until someone said hi to ask a question? :<
1367: [10:02:53] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> infophp(); is working can you please tell me what's missing?
1368: [10:03:30] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> no just formulating the question right in order not to get kicked right away
1369: [10:03:32] <Pyslk> probably all the required mods.
1370: [10:03:42] <Pyslk> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: you won't get kicked :>
1371: [10:03:46] <Snowman23> Welll
1372: [10:03:47] * Snowman23 coughs
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1374: [10:04:00] <Snowman23> :P
1375: [10:04:09] <Eliseth> Alright... so... there's no solution at this moment?
1376: [10:04:10] <Pyslk> I feel special because I was invited.
1377: [10:04:12] <Snowman23> lol
1378: [10:04:18] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> :-) good to hear
1379: [10:04:32] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> ok checking modules
1380: [10:04:53] <Pyslk> mcrypt, etc.
1381: [10:05:03] <Pyslk> I don't remember the full list.
1382: [10:05:36] <Eliseth> dom, gd2, fileinfo, hash, iconv, mbstring, mysqli (or other database driver), session, simplexml, tokenizer, xml.
1383: [10:05:44] <Eliseth> (http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/installation/server-requirements)
1384: [10:05:59] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> If php5 and apache2 weren't working together, I wouldn't see the infophp() page right?
1385: [10:06:15] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> Thanks Eliseth
1386: [10:06:50] <Pyslk> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=snLen&type=Code
1387: [10:06:59] <Pyslk> I think you have something else going on.
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1390: [10:07:11] <Pyslk> like your vhost isn't configured as you think it is, or something.
1391: [10:08:40] <Pyslk> Oh wait, hang on. https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-installer/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=snlen
1392: [10:08:56] <Pyslk> so 2 things I guess.
1393: [10:09:03] <Pyslk> 1: set up .htaccess correctly
1394: [10:09:37] <Pyslk> 2: ensure the index directive is configured correctly to not dump PHP out without processing it
1395: [10:09:47] <Pyslk> perhaps in the reverse order.
1396: [10:10:30] <Eliseth> Just to make sure I'm telling my client the correct thing: I won't be able to fix these issues with the editor, correct?
1397: [10:11:22] <Pyslk> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
1398: [10:11:30] <Pyslk> Eliseth: probably, yes.
1399: [10:11:44] <Pyslk> if fullscreen really means fullscreen, it seems unlikely.
1400: [10:11:57] <Eliseth> ...ok... :'(
1401: [10:12:08] <Pyslk> depends how 'fullscreen' works.
1402: [10:12:09] <kinglozzer> You know how we can't have abstract DataObjects... can we have abstract forms/
1403: [10:12:11] <kinglozzer> ?
1404: [10:12:23] <Pyslk> otherwise there could be a z-index thing you _might_ be able to do
1405: [10:12:39] <Pyslk> kinglozzer: yeh, because forms are controller things
1406: [10:12:46] <Pyslk> the heirarchy is more pure.
1407: [10:12:50] <kinglozzer> Sweet
1408: [10:13:04] <Pyslk> the thing with dataobjects is that they are model layer, and there's magic that relies on things like no abstract.
1409: [10:13:15] <Pyslk> because... well because that needs to be fixed.
1410: [10:13:34] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> Pyslk: great, thanks I'm trying that
1411: [10:14:21] <Pyslk> Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54: the easy way to tell the issue is:
1412: [10:14:48] <Pyslk> if site/ gives php code on screen, and site/index.php renders actual results - then it's the index thing probably
1413: [10:15:24] <Otterpocket> So should there be a framework/tests in SilverStripe-cms-v3.1.8 and 3.1.6 ?
1414: [10:16:14] <Pyslk> yes
1415: [10:17:10] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> OK!!!!!! /index.php gives actual results: U R gr8 THANKS A LOT :)
1416: [10:17:25] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> gonna continue from there, thanks :)
1417: [10:17:36] <Pyslk> yeah, so you have two issues. An insecure Apache setup, and you have not got mod_rewrite configured correctly.
1418: [10:17:46] <Pyslk> you probably just need to set RewriteBase
1419: [10:18:03] <Pyslk> if you don't have a .htaccess - https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-installer/blob/3.1/.htaccess
1420: [10:18:11] <Pyslk> edit that one. It's the default.
1421: [10:21:11] <Eliseth> I tried working the z-index of the popup
1422: [10:21:40] <Eliseth> But unfortunately it isn't even triggered in fullscreen mode, the popup isn't set to display:block instead of display:none
1423: [10:22:31] <Pyslk> Eliseth: oh, stink.
1424: [10:22:33] <Pyslk> weird.
1425: [10:23:16] <Pyslk> one of the lads here just cleaned the whiteboard behind me with cologne.
1426: [10:23:22] * Pyslk coughs
1427: [10:24:52] <Eliseth> ok... thinking of an alternative solution; is it possible to set the height of the editor?
1428: [10:25:17] <Eliseth> I know it's possible for custom HTML fields using setRows(x)
1429: [10:25:28] <Eliseth> But for the default content editor?
1430: [10:27:57] <Pyslk> I don't follow
1431: [10:28:12] <Pyslk> all tinymce options are on it's website
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1433: [10:33:53] <kinglozzer> Uh, do you "return parent::__construct()" or just "parent::__construct()"?
1434: [10:34:05] <kinglozzer> Oh, it doesn't matter
1435: [10:34:07] <kinglozzer> Nvm
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1437: [10:38:54] <Eliseth> Fixed it like this: $fields->replaceField('Content', HTMLEditorField::create('Content', 'Content')->setRows(60));
1438: [10:40:27] <Pyslk> Eliseth: just made it bigger so fullscreen is not needed?
1439: [10:40:35] <Eliseth> yes
1440: [10:40:40] <Pyslk> heh
1441: [10:40:59] <Eliseth> They'll still complain, but at least I can throw them a bone
1442: [10:41:15] <Eliseth> I hate selling "no"
1443: [10:41:21] <Pyslk> clients love to whinge.
1444: [10:41:28] <Pyslk> favourite past time.
1445: [10:41:36] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: clients gonna client
1446: [10:41:39] <Eliseth> hehehe
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1448: [10:43:59] <r3v3rb> oopsie!
1449: [10:44:06] * r3v3rb rotflmao
1450: [10:45:39] <r3v3rb> AZURE IS DOWN ACROSS EUROPE - CLIENT IS GOING BEZERK!!!
1451: [10:45:56] * r3v3rb laughs louder
1452: [10:46:13] <Snowman23> Is it still not back up?
1453: [10:46:39] <r3v3rb> Snowman23: not for everyone, some services across north and western europe are buggering about
1454: [10:46:42] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: http://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/status/
1455: [10:46:57] <r3v3rb> Colin[pi]: I love that lie in the top line
1456: [10:47:02] <r3v3rb> All good!
1457: [10:47:10] <r3v3rb> lies…
1458: [10:47:10] <Colin[pi]> ALL GOOD, *NERVOUS LAUGHTER*
1459: [10:47:25] <Colin[pi]> *SOUNDS OF NECKBEARDS SCURRYING ABOUT(
1460: [10:47:59] <Snowman23> rofl
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1462: [10:49:21] <cupcake> kinglozzer no nothing no errors
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1464: [10:55:32] <cupcake> @kinglozzer the post is returning empty
1465: [10:56:29] <Teddy_> what's the best way to create a custom menu (e.g. a check box in the cms for an obj to be looped and the links to be displayed in the footer of a website)
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1469: [10:58:39] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> GOT IT INSTALLED ^^
1470: [10:59:07] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> Okay folks, thank you very much, see you soon!
1471: [10:59:11] <Rob5ac3e0cdb0e54> CU
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1473: [11:03:12] <Colin[pi]> how do I keyword search in mysql in a way that doesn't suck?
1474: [11:03:43] <Colin[pi]> like '%keyword%' sucks for relevance, fulltext sucks for small keywords...
1475: [11:04:00] <wmk> deploying via ftp takes a long time
1476: [11:04:05] <wmk> at least for customers server
1477: [11:09:46] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: sounds like a laugh!
1478: [11:10:02] <cupcake> is there a way to set the owner of the gridfield?
1479: [11:10:14] <Pyslk> let me guess though r3v3rb - the client is getting really mad at you, even though it has nothing to do with you, it's out of your control, and it was their choice to go azure in the first place?
1480: [11:10:39] <r3v3rb> no, they are killing the IT team at this moment
1481: [11:10:43] <r3v3rb> Pyslk: ^^
1482: [11:10:56] <Pyslk> lulz
1483: [11:11:17] <r3v3rb> whereas I have offered a quick interim solution of pointing their A record back to the site that has been up since day one ;)
1484: [11:11:24] <r3v3rb> without outage
1485: [11:11:29] <Pyslk> cupcake: please, no @
1486: [11:11:30] <r3v3rb> damn linux
1487: [11:11:30] <Pyslk> :<
1488: [11:12:00] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: yeah, that pesky operating system that runs about 80% of the internet. HOW DARE IT
1489: [11:12:35] <cupcake> Pyslk i have a gridfield and on changing page the post variables are all the siteconfig values and not the gridfields datalist
1490: [11:12:44] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: solr, or one of them.
1491: [11:12:58] <r3v3rb> Pyslk i know and ridiculous uptimes…
1492: [11:13:08] <Pyslk> cupcake: no one 'owns' a gridfield.
1493: [11:13:25] <r3v3rb> love it https://twitter.com/wipsters/status/534956910227619840
1494: [11:14:05] <cupcake> ok but how come its picking post variables in siteconfig rather than its datalist assigned?
1495: [11:14:27] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: ehh.. solr is prolly overkill for this task
1496: [11:14:31] <Pyslk> I have no idea what you just said cupcake
1497: [11:14:39] <Colin[pi]> guess I'll just stick with fulltext for now
1498: [11:14:42] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: then install a database that doesn't suck.
1499: [11:14:59] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: nah this guy isn't paying enough :D
1500: [11:15:08] <cupcake> Pyslk in settings admin i have a tab, within it i have another tab which contains this gridfield
1501: [11:15:17] <Pyslk> well then fulltext and a pair of sunglasses.
1502: [11:15:36] <Pyslk> cupcake: and?
1503: [11:15:38] <cupcake> now when i want to move to the second page
1504: [11:15:47] <cupcake> by looking at the post call
1505: [11:16:06] <cupcake> i can see that the post variables for the EditForm/field/mygridfield
1506: [11:16:17] <cupcake> are the siteconfig fields
1507: [11:16:24] <cupcake> and not fields related to my grid
1508: [11:16:36] <cupcake> so the ajax post is returning null thus my grid field is disappearing
1509: [11:16:50] <Pyslk> did you configure it properly?
1510: [11:16:58] <Pyslk> what version are you using? 3.1.7?
1511: [11:17:02] <Pyslk> 3.1.6?
1512: [11:17:09] <Pyslk> 3.0.5?
1513: [11:17:15] <Pyslk> 2.4.1?
1514: [11:17:19] <Pyslk> 2.2.0?
1515: [11:17:29] <cupcake> 3.1
1516: [11:17:32] <Pyslk> .?
1517: [11:17:41] <cupcake> .7
1518: [11:17:46] <Pyslk> try 6
1519: [11:18:04] <Pyslk> (with the same code)
1520: [11:18:09] <Pyslk> set up a test env for it.
1521: [11:18:12] <Pyslk> do a control.
1522: [11:18:21] <Pyslk> same issue? you have problem. No same issue? BUG!
1523: [11:18:24] <wmk> cupcake, or update to 3.1.8 ;)
1524: [11:18:30] <Pyslk> oh
1525: [11:18:39] <Pyslk> lol, there's a .8 already?
1526: [11:18:42] <wmk> Pyslk, yup
1527: [11:18:43] <Pyslk> what was that... like 3 days?
1528: [11:18:45] <wmk> yup
1529: [11:18:48] <Pyslk> LOL
1530: [11:18:50] <cupcake> wow Pyslk
1531: [11:18:51] <wmk> yup
1532: [11:18:54] <Pyslk> because of...? bad packaging?
1533: [11:18:56] <cupcake> you must be a genius
1534: [11:19:14] <wmk> cause of bad error in installer
1535: [11:19:18] <Pyslk> cupcake: oh?
1536: [11:19:24] <Pyslk> Please, go on.
1537: [11:19:33] <wmk> cupcake, he only has a big mouth
1538: [11:19:45] <Pyslk> wmk: it's not that big! :<
1539: [11:19:57] <Pyslk> Just normal sized I think.
1540: [11:20:14] <cupcake> yeh normal mouth with tongue wrapped around his body!
1541: [11:20:15] <wmk> but it can manage a monster burger
1542: [11:20:18] <Pyslk> Big enough to put steak in though!
1543: [11:20:25] <wmk> so...
1544: [11:20:29] <Pyslk> keke
1545: [11:20:37] <Pyslk> cupcake: so waht happened/
1546: [11:20:42] <cupcake> anyway thanks just the same appreciate ure very useful help :)
1547: [11:20:49] <Pyslk> Why am I a genius?
1548: [11:21:42] <cupcake> ure too much of a genius to notice sarcasm! haha
1549: [11:22:23] <Pyslk> No, I see it. Just wondering why the comment :<
1550: [11:23:01] <Pyslk> Captain Obvious award for bravely stating the apparent?
1551: [11:23:06] <Pyslk> idk
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1553: [11:26:35] <r3v3rb> how long does a ‘A’ record change take on average in 2014?
1554: [11:26:43] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: I don't get this thing
1555: [11:26:43] <r3v3rb> to propagate
1556: [11:26:53] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: What is the petition / why is it funny? I saw someone else tweet it too
1557: [11:26:57] <r3v3rb> I reckon usually within an hour…
1558: [11:27:21] <r3v3rb> it team sticking with - it’ll take up to 72 hours so pointless
1559: [11:27:23] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: the govt (his party) just yesterday announced $200 million in budget cuts to the ABC over the next five years
1560: [11:27:25] <r3v3rb> lmao
1561: [11:27:34] <Snowman23> Ah, I see
1562: [11:27:42] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: today, he petitions to keep the production house open in his home state
1563: [11:27:50] <Snowman23> Ah yep yep yep
1564: [11:27:55] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: translation, he is an epic cunt
1565: [11:28:03] <Snowman23> lol
1566: [11:28:24] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: it takes up to 72 hours.
1567: [11:28:28] <Pyslk> always has, always will.
1568: [11:28:42] <Pyslk> although... it depends _entirely_ on the set time.
1569: [11:28:48] <Pyslk> which you can get by doing a dig.
1570: [11:28:54] <r3v3rb> Pyslk: only for Nameserver change. A, cname and mx is usually 0-4
1571: [11:28:55] <Pyslk> TTL value is seconds.
1572: [11:29:10] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: no, depends on what TTL is set to.
1573: [11:29:27] <Pyslk> and yeah, you might see things update faster, but because you see it doesn't mean the whole internet can.
1574: [11:29:28] <r3v3rb> sure, but they are set low nowadays
1575: [11:29:36] <r3v3rb> Pyslk: true
1576: [11:30:12] <Pyslk> I found that it generally took about 3 hours back home. but then most people in the country use the same set of DNS servers, so no issue there for local business.
1577: [11:30:24] <Pyslk> But if someone from say... the UK had tried, probably wouldn't have worked.
1578: [11:30:26] <r3v3rb> google ftw 8.8.8.8
1579: [11:30:29] <Pyslk> Unless it wasn't cached at all
1580: [11:30:29] <r3v3rb> ya!
1581: [11:31:25] <Snowman23> SEt a TTL of 1 minute!
1582: [11:31:32] <Pyslk> 3600
1583: [11:31:35] <Snowman23> 60
1584: [11:31:35] <Pyslk> lowest it can go iirc
1585: [11:31:40] <Snowman23> it can go lower
1586: [11:31:50] <Pyslk> well fuck, jsut set it to -1 then
1587: [11:31:53] <Pyslk> GOSH
1588: [11:31:55] <r3v3rb> lmao
1589: [11:32:02] <Snowman23> for the slowst browsing experience known to man
1590: [11:32:02] <Snowman23> :P
1591: [11:32:10] <Pyslk> yep
1592: [11:32:18] <Colin[pi]> r3v3rb: I found that when I used google dns on my router, my iOS app store download speeds tanked
1593: [11:32:29] <r3v3rb> ftw
1594: [11:32:31] <r3v3rb> :D
1595: [11:32:31] <Pyslk> lol
1596: [11:32:32] <Pyslk> rivals
1597: [11:32:35] <Pyslk> HILARIOUS
1598: [11:32:36] <Colin[pi]> seriously
1599: [11:32:45] <Colin[pi]> it absolutely tanked in speed
1600: [11:32:46] <Pyslk> "don't be evil" LOL GOOD JOB GOOGLE
1601: [11:32:49] <Snowman23> ..
1602: [11:32:52] <Colin[pi]> only change was the dns
1603: [11:32:56] <Snowman23> It's not an intentional thing, you noobs
1604: [11:33:03] <r3v3rb> client has TTL of 1min
1605: [11:33:08] <Snowman23> CDNs will use origin DNS server location to determine the best nodes to give you
1606: [11:33:09] <Pyslk> larf r3v3rb
1607: [11:33:14] <Snowman23> So if you use Google DNS, you get non-local nodes
1608: [11:33:17] <r3v3rb> so a record change should be pretty darn quick
1609: [11:33:25] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: should be, yeh
1610: [11:33:26] <Snowman23> srsly r3v3rb?!
1611: [11:33:28] <Snowman23> Increase that >.<
1612: [11:33:33] <Pyslk> yeah, that's bad like.
1613: [11:33:34] <r3v3rb> Snowman23: nothing to do with me
1614: [11:33:40] <Pyslk> probably why their site is so non-performant
1615: [11:33:41] <r3v3rb> it team ;)
1616: [11:33:43] <Snowman23> Tell them it makes their site slow
1617: [11:33:46] <Pyslk> it noobs
1618: [11:33:58] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: guess that makes sense
1619: [11:34:04] <Colin[pi]> still sucks though
1620: [11:34:18] <Pyslk> hilarious
1621: [11:34:20] <Pyslk> you mean Colin[pi]
1622: [11:34:39] <Pyslk> that'll teach you right for using an app-le product
1623: [11:34:50] <Pyslk> app lé
1624: [11:34:55] <Pyslk> lulz
1625: [11:35:05] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: I actually like my apple products ;_; ... not enough to try and convert everyone though
1626: [11:35:25] <Pyslk> áéíúóúó
1627: [11:35:41] <Pyslk> úk kéybóárds
1628: [11:35:59] <Colin[pi]> I can't go back to android, it rustles my jimmies too much
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1630: [11:36:07] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: and I like my non apple pro ducks.
1631: [11:36:20] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: how so?
1632: [11:36:48] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: the general smoothness (or lack of), the confusing button behaviour, "tinkering" with settings
1633: [11:36:48] <Colin[pi]> ugh
1634: [11:37:02] <Colin[pi]> malware
1635: [11:37:45] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: confusing button behaviour? FUCKING WHAT
1636: [11:37:52] <kinglozzer> lol, just noticed: OptionsetField vs CheckboxSetField, because consistency
1637: [11:38:04] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: yeah the back button has inconsistent behaviour I found
1638: [11:38:12] <Pyslk> on apple you have only one fucking button! how is that less confusing? It does 100 different things
1639: [11:38:26] <kinglozzer> Pyslk: It does one thing
1640: [11:38:26] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: yeah, but that's app developer issue, not OS issue.
1641: [11:38:27] <kinglozzer> :P
1642: [11:38:33] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: yeah but it does those things *consistently*
1643: [11:38:36] <Pyslk> kinglozzer: quit all the fucking things and make you rage?
1644: [11:38:41] <kinglozzer> Exactly!
1645: [11:38:45] <Pyslk> mm
1646: [11:38:49] <Pyslk> certainly did that well.
1647: [11:38:55] <Pyslk> Colin[pi]: nope.
1648: [11:38:58] <Pyslk> it doesn't.
1649: [11:39:02] <Colin[pi]> but anyway, I decided android wasn't for me, but whatever floats your boat
1650: [11:39:09] <Pyslk> also malware.
1651: [11:39:17] <Pyslk> thinking that there's none for applie, lolwut
1652: [11:39:18] <kinglozzer> I been tempted by Android 5
1653: [11:39:28] <Snowman23> is that the one named after the food/candy?
1654: [11:39:32] <kinglozzer> Want a new phone, don't want a massive one
1655: [11:39:43] <Pyslk> I am still in pining for my Magic.
1656: [11:39:44] <kinglozzer> Uh, idk
1657: [11:39:46] <Pyslk> It has real fucking buttons.
1658: [11:39:51] <Colin[pi]> Pyslk: might be luck, but I've never had icons appear on iOS that I didn't actually install
1659: [11:39:53] <Snowman23> Mine does too, Pyslk!
1660: [11:39:53] <Snowman23> :D
1661: [11:39:59] <Pyslk> and the back button wasl always back, the menu button was always menu.
1662: [11:40:09] <Pyslk> Snowman23: your HTC Magic?
1663: [11:40:19] <Snowman23> No, my Nokia 301
1664: [11:40:35] <Pyslk> kinglozzer: yeah that was good too, my phone wasn't retard huge.
1665: [11:40:41] <Pyslk> could use it comfortably with one hand.
1666: [11:41:08] <Pyslk> screen might have been a /little/ small at times, but I didn't browse interwebs that often.
1667: [11:41:47] <Pyslk> It was more annoying that people forgot that screens went as narrow as 320 with their media queries. It was fine if I turned phone sideways, but then I didn't get as much on screen at once.
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1669: [11:41:54] <Pyslk> I still want the fucking thing back.
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1671: [11:42:54] <r3v3rb> just sent it team a little message
1672: [11:42:56] <r3v3rb> :)
1673: [11:43:05] <r3v3rb> 1 min is not enough!
1674: [11:43:23] <Snowman23> ^.^
1675: [11:43:45] <Pyslk> Snowman23: so does my Nokia 105
1676: [11:44:23] <Pyslk> Which I seriously wish I'd bought before I got mugged (because I'd been thinking to get one anyway)
1677: [11:45:53] <Snowman23> annoying when code works on one person for not for the other
1678: [11:46:47] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: client side?
1679: [11:46:56] <Pyslk> Snowman23: are you building your quad copter in the office?
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1681: [11:49:43] <r3v3rb> interesting pingdom shows 4 hrs, whereas mxtoolbox shows 1min
1682: [11:49:46] <r3v3rb> lol
1683: [11:51:31] <jeroenem> My members can set their languages in their profile settings and i want to load the frontend interface in their language, this must be done via i18n but how do i set the locale for each member? can i do this within the init function?
1684: [11:52:49] <Snowman23> What the hell
1685: [11:52:52] <wmk> this server is ....
1686: [11:52:53] <Snowman23> Pyslk: Yeah man, totally
1687: [11:52:57] <Snowman23> Colin[pi]: Not client side, server side
1688: [11:52:58] <Snowman23> Okay so
1689: [11:53:01] <Snowman23> I do a /dev/build
1690: [11:53:08] <Snowman23> It only outputs these two -> 
1691: [11:53:10] <Snowman23> <li>TrackBackPing</li>
1692: [11:53:11] <Snowman23> <li>TrackBackURL</li>
1693: [11:53:14] <wmk> [Warning] session_start(): open(/var/lib/php/session ....) failed: Permission denied (13)
1694: [11:53:16] <Snowman23> WHERE ARE THE REST OF MY DAMMED TABLES GUYS?!
1695: [11:53:20] <Snowman23> Oh hold up
1696: [11:53:45] <Colin[pi]> Snowman23: check error log?
1697: [11:54:00] <Snowman23> YEAH
1698: [11:54:02] <Snowman23> WHATS GOING ON
1699: [11:54:05] <Snowman23> error reporting should be -1 and all on
1700: [11:54:21] <Snowman23> Oh no you're right
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1702: [11:54:26] <Snowman23> It's just not outputting anything
1703: [11:55:04] <Snowman23> Bah
1704: [11:55:09] <Snowman23> This is the worst amount of bugs and issues ever
1705: [11:55:16] <Snowman23> Good thing I esimtated 3 days because I knew this would happen
1706: [11:55:24] <Snowman23> ty rubby ducky Colin[pi]
1707: [11:55:39] * Colin[pi] squeaks
1708: [11:55:44] <Snowman23> :D
1709: [11:56:14] <Snowman23> We should fix that vendor/silverstripe/foo thing
1710: [11:56:18] <Colin[pi]> welp, this rubby ducky is off to sleeps
1711: [11:56:20] <Colin[pi]> nn all
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1713: [11:59:43] * wmk hates to deploy to foreign servers
1714: [12:01:31] <wmk> kinglozzer, your tweet yesterday about "bitterness of poor quality" is SO TRUE!
1715: [12:01:58] <kinglozzer> Snowman23: What vendor/silverstripe/foo thing is that?
1716: [12:02:25] <Snowman23> kinglozzer: You know, have modules go in /vendor instead of /root
1717: [12:02:31] <kinglozzer> Ah, yeah
1718: [12:02:46] <kinglozzer> Idk how that will work
1719: [12:03:12] <kinglozzer> 'cause we don't want _all_ vendor things in the manifest
1720: [12:03:26] <Snowman23> 3.1 up to 3.9999999 is done with ~3.1 right?
1721: [12:03:34] <kinglozzer> Yep
1722: [12:03:37] <Snowman23> Thanks ^.^
1723: [12:04:03] <kinglozzer> https://getcomposer.org/doc/01-basic-usage.md#next-significant-release-tilde-operator-
1724: [12:04:05] <kinglozzer> Boom
1725: [12:04:55] <Snowman23> ^.^
1726: [12:04:56] <Snowman23> Handy
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1728: [12:10:09] <Snowman23> Hmm, annoying
1729: [12:10:22] <Snowman23> It looks like if something is installed with a dependency, you can't override it with a single vcs claus
1730: [12:10:26] <Snowman23> clause
1731: [12:10:38] <Snowman23> (e.g. foo/bar installs baz/boo, a vcs applicable for baz/boo doesn't work)
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1733: [12:10:57] <Snowman23> OR IT JUST DOESN'T WORK AT ALL
1734: [12:10:59] * Snowman23 rages
1735: [12:13:41] <Snowman23> - Installation request for silverstripe/crontask * -> satisfiable by silverstripe/crontask[dev-master].
1736: [12:13:45] <Snowman23> - silverstripe/crontask dev-master requires silverstripe/framework ~3.1 -> no matching package found.
1737: [12:13:48] <Snowman23> YEAH SO DON'T GET DEV-MASTER YOU DUMB SHIT
1738: [12:13:50] <Snowman23> GET THE 0.1 PACKAGE
1739: [12:13:53] <Snowman23> >.<
1740: [12:14:17] <Pyslk> r3v3rb: don't beat around the bush, just get in and dig that domain.
1741: [12:14:24] <r3v3rb> aye
1742: [12:14:44] * Snowman23 bangs head against wall
1743: [12:14:59] <Snowman23> I bet vcs can't even be used like this can it
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1745: [12:17:48] <Pyslk> cvs?
1746: [12:18:38] <Snowman23> vcs
1747: [12:18:39] <Snowman23> I mean
1748: [12:18:43] <Snowman23> vcs thing in composer
1749: [12:18:46] <Snowman23> Trying to use a custom branch
1750: [12:18:51] <Snowman23> e.g. silverstripe/crontask
1751: [12:18:54] <Snowman23> My fork of it has a 0.1 branch
1752: [12:18:55] <Snowman23> I wanna use that
1753: [12:18:56] <Snowman23> It won't let me
1754: [12:20:48] <Snowman23> There
1755: [12:20:54] <Snowman23> Took a lot of fuckery, but you can do it with a type: package
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1757: [12:33:49] <r3v3rb> ugh, display logic not injecting js again!
1758: [12:33:58] <r3v3rb> \anyone come across that before
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1760: [12:38:09] <Pyslk> nup, never come across display logic before
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1762: [12:44:13] <r3v3rb> pita, sometimes it works out the box others it just sits there being a biatch
1763: [12:44:39] <r3v3rb> can’t get it to inject its js files for some reason, everything else is present
1764: [12:45:01] <r3v3rb> i think this happened before when I tried using it without bootstrapforms module
1765: [12:45:05] <r3v3rb> pah
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1770: [13:01:01] <Rienco> Hi, I'm trying to use i18n::$common_locales = array('en_GB'=>'ENG', 'Engels'); in SS 3.1, but it gives the error " Fatal error: Cannot access private property i18n::$common_locales in /home/project8/domains/project8.teqz.nl/public_html/mysite/_config.php on line 47". What's the new proper notation?
1771: [13:03:51] <Pyslk> config system
1772: [13:04:03] <Pyslk> yaml
1773: [13:04:08] <Pyslk> i18n:
1774: [13:04:14] <Pyslk> common_locales:
1775: [13:04:24] <Pyslk> en_GB: 'ENG'
1776: [13:04:26] <Pyslk> probably
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1778: [13:08:09] <r3v3rb> ARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - that’s it I’m switching to WORDPRESSSSSS
1779: [13:08:22] <Pyslk> SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
1780: [13:08:51] <Rienco> Ok i just created Hmm now i get "[User Error] Uncaught UnexpectedValueException: Type mismatch in configuration. All values for a particular property must contain the same type (or no value at all)."
1781: [13:09:53] <Pyslk> I dunno, did you use spaces or tabs?
1782: [13:10:08] <Rienco> spaces
1783: [13:10:15] <Pyslk> maybe don't make it a strink
1784: [13:10:19] <Pyslk> err string*
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1786: [13:11:15] <Rienco> now i get Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'InvalidArgumentException' with message 'Unable to parse line 3 (en_GB:ENG).
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1792: [13:22:26] <r3v3rb> hmm, type error entwine is not a function
1793: [13:22:39] <r3v3rb> might be the cause of my worries
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1798: [13:41:08] <madmatt> Snowman23: From memory, I think you have to add your own require statement for the module you're creating a vcs repo for
1799: [13:41:11] <madmatt> Then it works?
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1802: [13:49:13] <Snowman23> madmatt: Get to bed
1803: [13:49:26] <Snowman23> madmatt: Doing a package instead of just a vcs repo worked
1804: [13:49:46] <madmatt> Haha, you first
1805: [13:49:48] <Snowman23> doing a require alone wasn't enough
1806: [13:49:55] <Snowman23> I'm going I'm going!
1807: [13:49:57] <Snowman23> I'm so tired >.<
1808: [13:49:58] <madmatt> I'm at first aid training tomorrow, so don't need too much sleep for that :)
1809: [13:50:03] <Snowman23> ah lucky
1810: [13:50:18] <madmatt> Although have to be at WLG station by 8 :(
1811: [13:50:20] <Snowman23> wow
1812: [13:50:27] <Snowman23> 4 hours sleep? You're brave
1813: [13:50:36] <madmatt> My life man
1814: [13:50:40] <Snowman23> lol
1815: [13:51:09] <Snowman23> Anyway, zzz
1816: [13:51:10] <Snowman23> super tired
1817: [13:51:17] <madmatt> The life of a cake decorator's husband
1818: [13:51:20] <madmatt> night :)
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1823: [14:15:21] <Pyslk> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2udrEQCQAA1SrS.jpg:large
1824: [14:15:31] <Pyslk> How many jobs!? PROBABLY JUST ONE
1825: [14:23:57] <madmatt> Haha, "we want one person to do all these roles but only get paid for one"
1826: [14:24:28] <Pyslk> yes, not only that madmatt - paid at an intern's rate.
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1831: [14:54:01] <Pyslk> fuck, back in the Z zone kinglozzer
1832: [14:54:17] <Pyslk> today I have redbul, but I just drank a ribena and am feeling quite full :<
1833: [14:54:34] <kinglozzer> Pyslk: Man up and get it in ya!
1834: [14:55:11] <Pyslk> D:
1835: [14:55:20] <Pyslk> I shall wait for maximum sleepiness
1836: [14:55:45] <Pyslk> ps. fuck crud igniter.
1837: [14:55:56] <Pyslk> shit routes not working. nfi why. bit mad.
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1846: [16:53:23] <jeroenem> SilverStripe forum module - is it stable and does anyone here have experience using it?
1847: [16:53:24] <Pyslk> kinglozzer: made it through my z's so now I'm drinking the redbull. Logic++
1848: [16:53:35] <Pyslk> Stable enough, ss.org runs it.
1849: [16:53:48] <Pyslk> not that full featured.
1850: [16:54:04] <jeroenem> is it used for the community forums?
1851: [16:54:07] <jeroenem> ah i see
1852: [16:54:07] <Pyslk> hopefully fixed too, I had to patch it last I used it, but that was over a year ago.
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1854: [16:54:31] <jeroenem> cool - well that's stable enough. Doesn't need to many features like vbulletin / SMF or PHPBB
1855: [16:54:32] <Pyslk> was only for search if I remember correctly.
1856: [16:54:49] <Pyslk> so long ago I can't even remember what the patch was for.
1857: [16:55:32] <Pyslk> best test: try it and see.
1858: [16:57:20] <jeroenem> yeah, i will run it for a small community to test it, if SS.org runs it, it should be stable enough for now
1859: [16:57:26] <jeroenem> otherwise patch time!
1860: [16:57:38] <Pyslk> yeah well, open source, commits always welcome!
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1869: [17:22:57] <TimeWaster> hi
1870: [17:29:24] <TimeWaster> why does searchcontext ALWAYS give me all the elements in the database? (one example: http://pastie.org/9730504)
1871: [17:29:35] <TimeWaster> ss 3.1
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1873: [17:39:37] <TimeWaster> help
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1875: [18:05:51] <TimeWaster> can no one help me?
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1878: [18:27:57] <TimeWaster> pls
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1882: [19:03:45] <Kingy> morning
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1885: [19:04:51] <vinneeeeh> Good evening.
1886: [19:05:01] <Kingy> hi
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1888: [19:05:39] <Stomach> good morning everybody!
1889: [19:05:44] <vinneeeeh> I have a problem with installing silverstripe on a live domain, It gives me the warning: URL rewriting support: You need mod_rewrite to use friendly URLs with SilverStripe, but it is not enabled.
1890: [19:06:13] <vinneeeeh> My provider tells me that i have to put RewriteEngine On in my .htaccess file. But it is already in it.
1891: [19:06:16] <Kingy> vinneeeeh: do you have access to the server?
1892: [19:06:26] <vinneeeeh> I dont have access to the apache itself.
1893: [19:07:08] <vinneeeeh> it is Apache version 2.2
1894: [19:07:53] <Kingy> http://stackoverflow.com/a/5109421/2805762
1895: [19:07:56] <Kingy> that could possibly be the issue
1896: [19:08:32] <Kingy> but that'll be a server issue, so you'd have to contact the server
1897: [19:08:37] <Kingy> provider
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1899: [19:09:37] <vinneeeeh> I'm new to all this. Where do i put that command in my .htaccess file. I have the standard that comes from Silverstripe
1900: [19:10:37] <vinneeeeh> Or is that not possible to include this in the .access file?
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1902: [19:11:59] <Kingy> vinneeeeh: nah it'll be in your virtualhost file, which you won't have access to
1903: [19:12:35] <Kingy> https://github.com/naetech/nightrain that's pretty neat
1904: [19:12:46] <vinneeeeh> Oke thanks Kingy. I will contact my provider.
1905: [19:13:32] <Kingy> No problem vinneeeeh, just ask them to double check mod_rewrite is enabled and double check that AllowOverride is All in your vhost and not None
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1909: [19:19:15] <vinneeeeh> I have asked the question, thanks a lot. I have to go now
1910: [19:19:19] <vinneeeeh> good evening!
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1912: [19:25:17] <antmas> morning all
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1914: [19:26:16] <Kingy> hey antmas
1915: [19:26:22] <Kingy> AS5 delivered already :D
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1917: [19:28:12] <antmas> Kingy: that was fast!
1918: [19:28:17] <Kingy> yeah
1919: [19:28:30] <Kingy> got picked up from their office in Manakau at 6:05pm last night
1920: [19:28:36] <Kingy> was on my doorstep before 7 this orning
1921: [19:28:38] <Kingy> morning*
1922: [19:28:40] <antmas> sorry I didn't CSGO last night, watched Gaurdians of the Galaxy with mrs
1923: [19:28:55] <Kingy> all good, I only played one game by myself anyway
1924: [19:29:03] <Kingy> nobody showed up when I was ready to play lol
1925: [19:29:15] <Kingy> mrs has her work do on friday night, so book it in!
1926: [19:29:49] <antmas> :D
1927: [19:30:08] <antmas> I have a skype session with a client on Friday - but shouldn't be long
1928: [19:30:24] <antmas> it's bascially me just trying to get them to hurry up and pay remainder of costs :P
1929: [19:30:24] <Kingy> well she'll be out until like 1-2am
1930: [19:30:32] <Kingy> so i'm gold for the night o/
1931: [19:31:41] <antmas> Kingy: PMd
1932: [19:34:20] <Stomach> oooo antmas and Kingy setting up a date
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1934: [19:34:38] <antmas> Stomach: :P
1935: [19:34:54] <Kingy> Stomach: we're passed that stage
1936: [19:34:56] <Kingy> straight to the cyber
1937: [19:36:39] <Stomach> o_O
1938: [19:37:24] <Stomach> ___
1939: [19:37:24] <Stomach> // 7
1940: [19:37:24] <Stomach> (_,_/\
1941: [19:37:24] <Stomach> \ \
1942: [19:37:24] <Stomach> \ \
1943: [19:37:24] <Stomach> _\ \__
1944: [19:37:26] <Stomach> ( \ )
1945: [19:37:26] <Stomach> \___\___/ kingy
1946: [19:37:52] <Kingy> I think you should see a doctor about the tip of your penis
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1948: [19:41:18] <wmk> why do i have to set safepath in my php?
1949: [19:41:28] <wmk> seems ISP doesn't get it handled
1950: [19:41:46] <wmk> session_safe_path()
1951: [19:45:47] <Ryan-Toast> Looking through CV’s and I came across “Senior Wordpress Developer” *shuidder
1952: [19:46:26] <adrexia> ... I thoight irc might be free of penis pictures, but I suppose it was only a matter of time :P
1953: [19:46:43] <Ryan-Toast> adrexia: ..wut?
1954: [19:46:47] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: ...
1955: [19:46:50] <Kingy> lolol
1956: [19:46:53] <adrexia> right before you arrived
1957: [19:47:02] <Ryan-Toast> someone posted a dickpic?
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1959: [19:47:04] <adrexia> not going to copy paste the dick pic ;)
1960: [19:47:06] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: Stomach put in some ASCII penis
1961: [19:47:12] <Ryan-Toast> Oh, lol. Right.
1962: [19:47:14] <Kingy> had a deformed head though
1963: [19:48:01] <adrexia> looks worse in the logs: http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2014-11-20#log_1501982
1964: [19:48:08] <Stomach> lol :D
1965: [19:48:12] <adrexia> no spaces
1966: [19:48:33] <Stomach> simon_w - why don't the logs preserve whitespace :\
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1968: [19:48:44] <adrexia> cos html
1969: [19:49:07] <Stomach> &nbsp;&nbsp;whatever
1970: [19:49:10] <Stomach> :P
1971: [19:49:16] <adrexia> its preserved, just not translated ;)
1972: [19:49:44] <adrexia> inspect element shows the whitespace. though...ahhh... its allwrapped in table tags
1973: [19:49:51] <Stomach> hahaha
1974: [19:50:28] <adrexia> I guess you just had to be there.
1975: [19:50:38] <wmk> omg, the logs are really worst
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1979: [20:09:58] <simon_w> Stomach, not only is it HTML, but it's not a fixed width font
1980: [20:10:44] <wmk> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/2.4/core/Session.php#L444 *facepalm*
1981: [20:11:26] <wmk> at least 3.1 throws an error so you can get the stuff running
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1983: [20:15:35] <novaweb> Morena!
1984: [20:15:44] <JeremyRoundill> Morena ra, novaweb!
1985: [20:15:52] <JeremyRoundill> Kei te pehea koe?
1986: [20:16:08] <novaweb> Kei te pai ahau. E koe?
1987: [20:16:17] <JeremyRoundill> Kei te pai.
1988: [20:16:29] <JeremyRoundill> Aaaand I'm out of Te Reo Māori.
1989: [20:16:34] <JeremyRoundill> Taniwha!
1990: [20:16:44] <Stomach> e noho tamariki!
1991: [20:16:54] <JeremyRoundill> Hahaha
1992: [20:17:01] <novaweb> I taught a couple of german girls that "Chur" was actually a maori word on the weekend
1993: [20:17:16] <JeremyRoundill> That's great :D
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1995: [20:17:37] <JeremyRoundill> Stomach's interjection was great.
1996: [20:17:58] <JeremyRoundill> I'm super impressed at the non-English non-sequitur.
1997: [20:18:00] <JeremyRoundill> So many nons!
1998: [20:18:06] <novaweb> So, when debugging on the front end, I'd write things like Debug::show(Member::currentMemberID); in the init function of the page I was on.
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2000: [20:18:17] <novaweb> Is there a global place I can test similar stuff in the CMS?
2001: [20:18:25] <novaweb> trying to test some permission stuff.
2002: [20:18:36] <Stomach> there are controller inits
2003: [20:18:40] <novaweb> currentUserId.. whatever
2004: [20:18:46] <Stomach> just create an extension of LeftAndMain
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2006: [20:18:59] <Stomach> and do onBeforeInit() { Debug::whatever(); }
2007: [20:19:09] <Stomach> of onAfterInit is probably better
2008: [20:19:14] <wmk> novaweb, there was a new module, developer toolbar for chrome
2009: [20:19:16] <novaweb> There's no where that already exists that I can do this?
2010: [20:19:27] <novaweb> without extending...
2011: [20:19:40] <Stomach> novaweb, not without editing core files...
2012: [20:19:49] <novaweb> balls.
2013: [20:19:50] <novaweb> ok
2014: [20:20:28] <wmk> novaweb, see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/silverstripe-dev/7hpLxvXzn7U/vnL5bSEXwMsJ
2015: [20:20:32] <zippy> novaweb: if you just want to die and dump some variations, you can drop it in the getCMSFields area (purely for checking values only)
2016: [20:20:49] <zippy> *variables
2017: [20:21:00] <Kingy> yes don't do what I did and push some code live with a dirty die();
2018: [20:21:15] <novaweb> ok thanks zippy
2019: [20:21:17] <Kingy> at least I didn't do what I normally do and put die("right fucking here");
2020: [20:21:19] <novaweb> wmk checking the link...
2021: [20:21:30] <wmk> maybe you can implement it there
2022: [20:21:45] <JeremyRoundill> Haha, Kingy.
2023: [20:21:46] <zippy> Stomach: a debug bar like https://github.com/barryvdh/laravel-debugbar would be cool for SS
2024: [20:22:04] <Stomach> zippy - check the clockwork integration
2025: [20:22:11] <JeremyRoundill> I think it's great when you get so annoyed at some code that your debugging just gets filled with swears.
2026: [20:22:13] <Stomach> https://github.com/markguinn/silverstripe-clockwork
2027: [20:22:37] <wmk> zippy, xdebug + good IDE
2028: [20:22:53] <zippy> wmk: yea... but that there also show all the queries + all the views used etc
2029: [20:22:58] <zippy> IDE wont tell ya that :)
2030: [20:23:32] <wmk> you'd have to watch the variable where the stuff is collected
2031: [20:24:24] <zippy> Injector::inst()->get('ClockworkTimeline')->startEvent('myevent1', 'Description of the event'); ---> ClockworkTimeline::startEvent('myevent1', 'Description of the event'); sure be nicer
2032: [20:25:08] <zippy> Stomach: thanks, might have a play
2033: [20:25:12] <Stomach> zippy - its an instance not a static though
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2035: [20:25:22] <zippy> Stomach: yes, but the static could return the instance
2036: [20:25:32] <zippy> ah
2037: [20:25:33] <zippy> sorry
2038: [20:25:34] <Stomach> but then you aren't using the injector
2039: [20:25:46] <zippy> missread it sorry
2040: [20:26:39] <novaweb> Member::getAllMemberPermissionCodes.... is there something like this?
2041: [20:27:11] <novaweb> I can see there's not in member, but is there something similar in Permissions etc?
2042: [20:27:39] * novaweb frantically wades through the api docs
2043: [20:27:52] <antmas> hmmmm
2044: [20:28:05] <antmas> DPS payment receipts are coming back with $0.00 :/
2045: [20:28:27] <Kingy> that's not good
2046: [20:28:49] <antmas> not all of them, just some
2047: [20:28:56] <Kingy> :|
2048: [20:28:59] <novaweb> Permissions::permissions_for_member(); Thank you
2049: [20:29:03] <antmas> WHICH IS REALLY HANDY
2050: [20:29:06] <novaweb> Permission(
2051: [20:29:08] <Kingy> are they approved payments antmas ?
2052: [20:29:09] <antmas> AND EASY TO REPRODUCE :P
2053: [20:29:12] <novaweb> antmas, is this omnipay?
2054: [20:29:13] <antmas> Kingy: yup
2055: [20:29:24] <antmas> Kingy: money is being exchanged
2056: [20:29:34] <Kingy> got a dps log?
2057: [20:29:42] <antmas> I will check
2058: [20:29:55] <antmas> DPS of course says everything is fine on their end
2059: [20:30:01] <Kingy> fuck sakes
2060: [20:30:03] <Kingy> fire alamr
2061: [20:30:04] <Kingy> brb
2062: [20:30:06] <Kingy> gave me a shits
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2064: [20:30:34] <jedateach> antmas: I’ve investigated how to do raw request/response logging, and hope to add it to omnipay eventually: https://github.com/burnbright/silverstripe-omnipay/issues/71
2065: [20:30:42] <jedateach> may be useful to you?
2066: [20:30:51] <antmas> jedateach: awesome, I will check that out
2067: [20:32:13] * zippy does like guzzle
2068: [20:35:36] <antmas> hmmm these logs are hard to read :/
2069: [20:36:34] <jedateach> antmas: which ones?
2070: [20:37:01] <antmas> looks like an XML dump of a payment in question
2071: [20:37:22] <jedateach> sorry - which logs are you looking at?
2072: [20:38:03] <antmas> jedateach: XML dump of a past DPS payment that returned a $0.00 value on the receipt, but money was exchanged
2073: [20:38:32] <jedateach> directly from the DPS system, or from some part of SS/ominpay?
2074: [20:39:09] <antmas> DPS
2075: [20:39:10] <antmas> system*
2076: [20:39:22] <jedateach> ok, right
2077: [20:41:56] <zippy> antmas: free :D
2078: [20:42:25] <zippy> antmas: maybe there are two payment variables returned, like it's recurring setup, and inital payment + ongoing payment, and it's getting only 1 field? (I havn't used DPS before)
2079: [20:42:41] <Stomach> anyone used omnipay for recurring billing with DPS?
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2081: [20:43:09] <Blacklite> wooooo friday tomorrow
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2085: [20:45:22] <antmas> huh
2086: [20:45:24] <antmas> looks like
2087: [20:46:03] <antmas> there are 2 payment attemps where <success>0</success> and a <reponseText>DECLINED</responseText>
2088: [20:46:17] <antmas> and the a sucess of 1 with and APPROVED
2089: [20:46:37] <antmas> but the amount was -$15 and DPS took a convenience fee of $15.01 lol
2090: [20:46:38] <antmas> wtf
2091: [20:47:11] <antmas> the $-15 being the <success>1</sucess>
2092: [20:47:34] <antmas> my guess is he got declined and the declined message didn't come through in time for his browser and he tried it a couple of times
2093: [20:47:35] <antmas> maybe
2094: [20:47:35] <antmas> :P
2095: [20:50:26] <jedateach> FYI: the finished product - https://github.com/burnbright/silverstripe-externalurlfield . I’ve added a few enhancement ideas to the issues list. Your ideas welcome.
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2099: [20:57:36] <Kingy> antmas: we had a similar problem
2100: [20:57:43] <Kingy> where transactions were going missing
2101: [20:59:57] <Stomach> nice jedateach
2102: [21:00:01] <Stomach> thats pretty swanky
2103: [21:00:14] <simon_w> Oops, supposed to have left 15 minutes ago
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2106: [21:00:45] <KF5WYX> Afternoon all
2107: [21:00:52] <novaweb> Morning!
2108: [21:00:58] <KF5WYX> Morning :)
2109: [21:01:00] <jedateach> Stomach: cheers, it was one of those things I’ve been unhappy with existing options for a while.
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2111: [21:01:38] <Stomach> it will be a cool thing to use with internal/external link options
2112: [21:01:40] <KF5WYX> Can anyone guide me to the php file which generates the search form? I think I need to alter it a little work with it from css
2113: [21:01:46] <Stomach> which I always end up writing from scratch again
2114: [21:04:59] <Stomach> KF5WYX you should be able to create a 'SearchForm.ss' in your themes/themename/templates folder
2115: [21:05:02] <Stomach> and it will use that
2116: [21:05:24] <Stomach> at the moment it is probably using /framework/templates/SearchForm.ss
2117: [21:06:47] <catcher> jedateach, that's both fancy and pantsy.
2118: [21:07:01] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: finally getting started on this little number: http://i.imgur.com/OmcYN7p.jpg
2119: [21:08:27] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: :O even calendar?
2120: [21:08:32] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: yarp
2121: [21:08:45] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: just a real basic one
2122: [21:09:05] <catcher> Ryan-Toast, I'd say it's done. Just update the snapshot with new events.
2123: [21:09:23] <Ryan-Toast> catcher: hmm?
2124: [21:09:46] <KF5WYX> Stomach: Many thanks!
2125: [21:10:03] <Stomach> Ryan-Toast - https://github.com/titledk/silverstripe-calendar
2126: [21:10:15] <catcher> Just insert text on top of the appropriate square, and take a new snapshot.
2127: [21:10:16] <Stomach> go hard or go home
2128: [21:10:18] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I don’t like using other people’s modules.
2129: [21:10:25] <catcher> It'll load quickly too since they're just images.
2130: [21:10:32] <Stomach> but look at it!
2131: [21:10:57] <Stomach> also "I dont like using other peoples modules" -> uses silverstripe/framework and silverstripe/cms
2132: [21:11:01] <Stomach> should rewrite them too
2133: [21:11:04] <Stomach> :D :P :D :D :D :D :D
2134: [21:11:13] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: MAYBE I WILL :P
2135: [21:11:46] <Ryan-Toast> all my modules are really barebones versions of popular modules, mainly because I don’t need 80% of their functionality.
2136: [21:12:14] <Ryan-Toast> also makes me learn stuff.
2137: [21:13:09] <jedateach> Ryan-Toast: +1 for keeping it simple
2138: [21:13:14] <JeremyRoundill> Ryan-Toast: I take it you wrote your PHP parser too? :P
2139: [21:13:20] <jedateach> haha
2140: [21:13:25] <Ryan-Toast> JeremyRoundill: I wrote all my modules in binary.
2141: [21:13:32] <JeremyRoundill> :D
2142: [21:13:42] <jedateach> mod_eventcalendar
2143: [21:13:54] <JeremyRoundill> http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/200808/keyboard-for-real-coder.jpg
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2145: [21:15:25] <Stomach> eventcalendar.cfm
2146: [21:15:54] <Kingy> Blacklite: +1 for Friday tomorrow
2147: [21:17:19] <Ryan-Toast> just makes it easier for me to make teeny tiny calendars: http://i.imgur.com/YxE9BNC.jpg
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2149: [21:17:51] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: nice plug at the top :P
2150: [21:17:58] <Blacklite> yep
2151: [21:18:02] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: ;)
2152: [21:18:06] <Blacklite> going to a LAN on saturday
2153: [21:18:23] <Kingy> Blacklite: so friday night is your practice night with us right :D :D
2154: [21:18:28] <Blacklite> haha, maybe
2155: [21:18:36] <Kingy> are you ranked yet?
2156: [21:18:40] <Blacklite> no
2157: [21:18:45] <Blacklite> i haven't played comp since weekend
2158: [21:18:50] <Blacklite> maybe 1 game on monday
2159: [21:19:29] <toddvalentine> Has anyone else run into an error when rebuilding their db after updating to 3.1.8? I'm getting a Unknown column error Member.TempIDHash when I run dev/build?flush=1
2160: [21:21:27] <Stomach> toddvalentine - nope, its worked for us
2161: [21:21:36] <Stomach> did you upgrade both framework and cms?
2162: [21:22:23] <toddvalentine> Hmm. Yeah, updated both in composer.json and then ran a composer install.
2163: [21:24:16] <Ryan-Toast> Too many good games out this month :/
2164: [21:24:49] <Stomach> can you add it manually to your database?
2165: [21:25:02] <antmas> jedateach: Kingy hmmmm looks like it is potentially a DPS fault
2166: [21:25:19] <jedateach> cool, thanks for letting me konw
2167: [21:25:46] <antmas> jedateach: I'll confirm once we get confirmation from accounts as to what money actually changed hands
2168: [21:26:00] <toddvalentine> Stomach: I imagine I can. Strange though.
2169: [21:26:15] <Stomach> toddvalentine yeah it is
2170: [21:26:23] <Stomach> maybe add an issue to github before you do
2171: [21:26:49] <toddvalentine> Will do. Thanks.
2172: [21:27:22] <antmas> aawwww yissss client finally paid :D
2173: [21:29:40] <JeremyRoundill> ffs.
2174: [21:29:52] <JeremyRoundill> The Hamilton City Council is filled with dicks.
2175: [21:30:00] <JeremyRoundill> Well, maybe not the staff.
2176: [21:30:06] <JeremyRoundill> But certainly the councillors.
2177: [21:30:11] <JeremyRoundill> http://www.hamilton.govt.nz/our-council/news/Pages/default.aspx?newsItem=3854
2178: [21:30:15] <antmas> councillors are usualyl like that yeah
2179: [21:30:26] <antmas> NOT THE TASMAN COUNCILLORS THOUGH
2180: [21:30:28] <antmas> <3 them
2181: [21:30:39] <JeremyRoundill> They voted yesterday to kick homeless people out of town.
2182: [21:30:43] <JeremyRoundill> Went through 10-1.
2183: [21:30:54] <JeremyRoundill> Only Dave Macpherson voted against it.
2184: [21:30:57] <Kingy> antmas: let me know if it is so I can give our guys a heads up
2185: [21:31:27] <antmas> Kingy: yeah it likely will be as this has only occured in the last few days without updates at our end
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2187: [21:31:35] <antmas> Kingy: aka red flag #1
2188: [21:31:40] <Kingy> yeah true
2189: [21:31:48] <JeremyRoundill> I want to see the bylaw as it gets implemented. The proposed bylaw banned caffeine in town unless it's in coffee.
2190: [21:31:49] <Kingy> are you in contact with them?
2191: [21:32:12] <antmas> Kingy: yarp
2192: [21:32:19] <Kingy> JeremyRoundill: that one I kind of agree with
2193: [21:32:27] <Kingy> ban energy drinks for those <16
2194: [21:32:33] <antmas> +1
2195: [21:32:38] <Ryan-Toast> is this rthe best way of getting DO’s from between two dates? http://www.silverstripe.org/community/forums/data-model-questions/show/20947
2196: [21:32:39] <Kingy> especially if they're in school uniform
2197: [21:32:42] <JeremyRoundill> I dunno about it.
2198: [21:32:47] <JeremyRoundill> I just think the idea is hilarious.
2199: [21:32:53] <antmas> but then you have to ban coke, and other regular fizzy drinks
2200: [21:32:54] <JeremyRoundill> Drinking a V in a cafe? That's cool.
2201: [21:33:03] <JeremyRoundill> Drinking a V on the street? $20,000 fine!
2202: [21:33:09] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: lol
2203: [21:33:18] <JeremyRoundill> Yeah, coke's banned too.
2204: [21:33:21] <JeremyRoundill> Mountain dew: banned
2205: [21:33:28] <JeremyRoundill> No-doze: banned.
2206: [21:33:29] <Kingy> antmas: I don't know about coke, whilst it's bad it isn't an energy drink per se
2207: [21:33:51] <Kingy> although it hasn't been in schools for years now
2208: [21:34:04] <Stomach> no mind altering substances
2209: [21:34:09] <Stomach> NO BREATHING ASSHOLES
2210: [21:34:13] <JeremyRoundill> Well
2211: [21:34:17] <JeremyRoundill> That's what I thought as well.
2212: [21:34:21] <antmas> ice cream blows my mind, so banned?
2213: [21:34:28] <JeremyRoundill> But they're fairly good at defining what a mind-altering substance is.
2214: [21:34:46] <JeremyRoundill> But nutmeg though.
2215: [21:34:48] <JeremyRoundill> Banned!
2216: [21:34:57] <JeremyRoundill> Poppy seeds on buns?
2217: [21:34:58] <antmas> mmmmm nutmeg
2218: [21:34:59] <Kingy> skulling a V/Mother/etc 10 minutes before you go to silent reading... fantastic idea
2219: [21:34:59] <JeremyRoundill> Banned!
2220: [21:35:13] <antmas> Kingy: lol silent reading
2221: [21:35:17] <antmas> dat memory
2222: [21:35:29] <Kingy> I didn't mind it
2223: [21:35:58] <antmas> yeah I loved it
2224: [21:36:06] <antmas> read ALL THE GOOSEBUMPS
2225: [21:36:12] <Kingy> HP for me :P
2226: [21:36:12] <JeremyRoundill> Does anyone know of a decent tutorial creation service?
2227: [21:36:25] <Kingy> apparently my gf just lets her year 9s read for the entire period if they all vote for it
2228: [21:36:41] <JeremyRoundill> Some tool I can use to make a nicely formatted step-by-step instruction webpage for a client?
2229: [21:37:25] <Kingy> hmm
2230: [21:38:23] <Kingy> JeremyRoundill: http://www.tildee.com/ maybe
2231: [21:39:23] <antmas> hate making tutorials
2232: [21:39:30] <antmas> I just licecap all the things
2233: [21:40:19] <Kingy> google docs + snipping tool (cmd+shift+4) for me
2234: [21:40:33] <Kingy> make a nice slideshow and be done lol
2235: [21:40:51] <JeremyRoundill> :)
2236: [21:40:57] <JeremyRoundill> Cheers Kingy, I'll give it a go.
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2238: [21:44:25] <antmas> http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/63368788/Auckland-Council-IT-project-scrutinised :
2239: [21:44:26] <antmas> lol
2240: [21:44:34] <antmas> LOVE to be that project manager
2241: [21:48:36] <JeremyRoundill> Haha
2242: [21:48:46] <JeremyRoundill> That's because that council merger was stupid.
2243: [21:49:15] <JeremyRoundill> Oh, you guys all do separate things? I'm sure we can just bung you all onto one system and save millions.
2244: [21:49:22] <JeremyRoundill> Wait, that didn't work? Shit.
2245: [21:49:31] <antmas> 8 councils with multiple systems, prolly all fucking aweful legacy shitboxes, and make them into one?
2246: [21:49:33] <antmas> FUCK THAT
2247: [21:49:43] <JeremyRoundill> Yup.
2248: [21:49:51] <antmas> wonder what the system is
2249: [21:49:56] <antmas> maybe SAP or something
2250: [21:50:07] <JeremyRoundill> Why do we insist on such a hierarchical system?
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2252: [21:50:19] <JeremyRoundill> They're separate departments doing different things.
2253: [21:50:38] <JeremyRoundill> Surely they should have a more anarchist computer system. :)
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2255: [21:52:40] <antmas> jedateach: Kingy DPS has confirmed there maybe have been some kind of transmission error between them and Visa
2256: [21:52:54] <Kingy> on-going or just some bs?
2257: [21:52:57] <antmas> Kingy: so yeah I'd let someone know, but don't fret too much :P
2258: [21:53:01] <antmas> Kingy: bs most like
2259: [21:53:11] <jedateach> cool
2260: [21:53:15] <Kingy> meh, if they complain i'll say something
2261: [21:53:24] <Kingy> we don't do that many transactions
2262: [21:53:55] <antmas> yeah just a glitch
2263: [21:54:19] <antmas> money still goes to appropriate places, just receipting gets muddled
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2268: [21:59:40] <antmas> omg one line emails
2269: [21:59:43] <antmas> staaaaahhhhp
2270: [21:59:49] <Ryan-Toast> Can someone please let me know if there’s a more efficient way of doing this? http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/546d0daeaf159
2271: [22:00:38] <antmas> what is format Y-m-t?
2272: [22:00:48] <Ryan-Toast> t is last day of the month
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2274: [22:00:55] <antmas> ah true
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2276: [22:01:14] <Ryan-Toast> 01 is the first
2277: [22:02:24] <superspring> hey, so with Silverstripe's authentication, does it make a log of when a login fails?
2278: [22:02:53] <willr> superspring it does or it can. See registerFailedLogin()
2279: [22:04:14] <simon_w|work> Ryan-Toast, well, you can ditch the first date() and just $starteDate->format('Y-m-d')
2280: [22:04:41] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w|work: but then I can’t parse the $year, and $month to it?
2281: [22:04:45] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: yar ^^^
2282: [22:04:58] <simon_w|work> Ryan-Toast, date(), not DateTime
2283: [22:05:25] <simon_w|work> $startDate = (new DateTime())->setDate($year, $month, 1)->format('Y-m-d')
2284: [22:05:44] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w|work: chur :)
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2286: [22:08:25] <superspring> willr: ah yes, "login_recording" looks like what i'm looking for...
2287: [22:09:25] <Blacklite> parking is stupidly expensive in this city
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2291: [22:11:13] <Kingy> Blacklite: Auckland?
2292: [22:11:18] <Blacklite> wellington
2293: [22:11:28] <Kingy> oh you're in wellington too!
2294: [22:11:32] <Blacklite> stupid quake closed the parking buildings, prices skyrocketed
2295: [22:11:35] <Kingy> where do you park, I'm driving in tomorrow
2296: [22:11:45] <Blacklite> i used to park in central city hotel
2297: [22:11:50] <Blacklite> $9 a day
2298: [22:11:54] <antmas> Blacklite: watch out, Kingy 's now going to invite you for a CS:GO Lan
2299: [22:11:56] <antmas> ;)
2300: [22:11:59] <Blacklite> after the quake it went up to like $13
2301: [22:12:05] <Ryan-Toast> damn, son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEHFAfrBmj0
2302: [22:12:09] <Blacklite> hah
2303: [22:12:28] <Kingy> yeah I used to park in the carpark across the road from Te Papa
2304: [22:12:30] <Kingy> was $9
2305: [22:12:33] <Kingy> then Wilsons got it
2306: [22:12:34] <Blacklite> readings?
2307: [22:12:38] <Kingy> and it's $14 I think
2308: [22:12:39] <Blacklite> ohhhh i know that one actually
2309: [22:12:42] <Kingy> nah
2310: [22:12:47] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: ka-slap!
2311: [22:12:48] <Blacklite> where the car dealer used to be
2312: [22:12:48] <Kingy> behind Thrify rentals I think it is
2313: [22:12:52] <Blacklite> yep
2314: [22:12:59] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: that was so fucking sweet.
2315: [22:13:16] <Blacklite> i use the one next to vtnz in thorndon if i miss my bus
2316: [22:13:35] <Blacklite> costs $14 for that one. then there is another one 100m down the road that's $15, then another one at $17
2317: [22:13:36] <Kingy> yeah well i'm not walking from Thorndon
2318: [22:13:37] <Kingy> lol
2319: [22:13:48] <Blacklite> depends where you work i guess
2320: [22:13:57] <Kingy> NZX
2321: [22:14:12] <Blacklite> oh where trademe is?
2322: [22:14:15] <Blacklite> / was
2323: [22:14:23] <Kingy> yeah
2324: [22:14:27] <Kingy> across the road from xero
2325: [22:14:28] <Blacklite> ah yep
2326: [22:14:31] <Blacklite> yep yep
2327: [22:14:54] <antmas> simon_w|work: go wake colin[pi] up
2328: [22:15:30] <simon_w|work> antmas, wrong side of town
2329: [22:15:47] <novaweb> Enquiring one more time before I attack a task. Does anyone have a suggested approach for locking down ModelAdmins in terms of restricting the ability to edit DO's. As an example, you could edit a Member in Member, you could also access that Member by navigating a Group, then selecting the Member in the group they belong to and edit the member there. Have many DO's and need to restrict to make the workflow sensible/self explanatory.
2330: [22:15:52] <Kingy> Blacklite: even Te Papa is $20
2331: [22:16:05] <Blacklite> yeah, it's pretty bullshit
2332: [22:16:18] <Kingy> Thing is, i'll get a park fine tomorrow morning
2333: [22:16:23] <Kingy> but I got to go and drop shit off at lunchtime
2334: [22:16:26] <Kingy> no doubt i'll come back and won't have a par
2335: [22:16:28] <Kingy> k
2336: [22:16:28] <Blacklite> yeah, that's the killer
2337: [22:16:42] <Kingy> and will need to find somewhere else and pay another $10+
2338: [22:16:46] <Blacklite> yep
2339: [22:16:55] <Blacklite> great big sacm
2340: [22:16:56] <Blacklite> *scam
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2342: [22:25:45] <JeremyRoundill> SortableGridField is the way to go for sorting GridFields, huh?
2343: [22:25:46] <JeremyRoundill> https://github.com/UndefinedOffset/SortableGridField
2344: [22:26:58] <Ryan-Toast> JeremyRoundill: Yarp
2345: [22:27:14] <Ryan-Toast> Would recommend just adding it to your default composer when you insatll shit.
2346: [22:27:16] <Ryan-Toast> So handy.
2347: [22:27:32] <JeremyRoundill> Cool as
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2350: [22:30:14] <Kingy> surprised it hasn't just been added
2351: [22:30:59] <JeremyRoundill> Gaaah
2352: [22:31:08] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Shhhhhhh
2353: [22:31:19] <JeremyRoundill> SortableGridField, why don't you have a full example in your README.md?
2354: [22:31:20] <Snowman23> PARKING IS LAME
2355: [22:31:22] <Snowman23> FUCK ROADS, FUCK CARS
2356: [22:31:25] <JeremyRoundill> I can't be bothered thinking
2357: [22:31:28] <JeremyRoundill> Gosh!
2358: [22:31:28] <Snowman23> #teleporters4lyfe
2359: [22:31:52] <Ryan-Toast> JeremyRoundill: https://github.com/Rhym/ss_snippets#gridfield
2360: [22:32:08] <JeremyRoundill> Yusss!
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2362: [22:33:19] <JeremyRoundill> Hmm
2363: [22:33:27] <JeremyRoundill> And what type do I give the sort column?
2364: [22:34:14] <JeremyRoundill> I take it I need to add it to my dataobject, it's not just magic.
2365: [22:34:31] <JeremyRoundill> Ooooh
2366: [22:34:36] <JeremyRoundill> It's in the snippet above.
2367: [22:34:41] <JeremyRoundill> Jeez, Ryan-Toast. You're quick.
2368: [22:35:00] <Ryan-Toast> JeremyRoundill: :P
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2371: [22:36:43] <Colin[pi]> GOOD MORNING
2372: [22:36:46] <Colin[pi]> whoops caps
2373: [22:36:53] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: aye, gurl
2374: [22:37:01] <Colin[pi]> aye, beeatch
2375: [22:37:07] <Ryan-Toast> haaaaayyyy
2376: [22:37:13] <Colin[pi]> ^.^
2377: [22:37:17] <Ryan-Toast> :3
2378: [22:37:51] <Blacklite> so tournament parking monthly fees work out to ~$13 a day... shitty
2379: [22:38:05] <Ryan-Toast> Blacklite: Time to get a motorbike!
2380: [22:38:28] <JeremyRoundill> "None of these templates can be found in theme 'simple': GridFieldSortableRows.ss"
2381: [22:38:37] <JeremyRoundill> That's silly, SilverStripe.
2382: [22:38:37] <Blacklite> i've thought about it
2383: [22:38:44] <JeremyRoundill> Why are you even looking there for that file?
2384: [22:38:53] <JeremyRoundill> It's clearly in the sortablegridfield folder.
2385: [22:38:55] <Blacklite> but motorbikes don't come with v6's
2386: [22:39:16] <Ryan-Toast> Blacklite: You can add that to the list of: things-bikes-don’t-need :P
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2388: [22:40:41] <Blacklite> it's the safety factor that gets me for bikes
2389: [22:40:54] <Blacklite> after watching some of that stuff on that bad drivers facebook page
2390: [22:40:54] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, there’s always that little annoyance.
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2392: [22:41:09] <Ryan-Toast> people trying to murder you everyday.
2393: [22:41:13] <Blacklite> pretty much
2394: [22:41:18] <Blacklite> some people should get done for attempted murder
2395: [22:41:44] <Colin[pi]> yeah that's why I stick mostly to the dedicated bike lanes/paths in Canberra
2396: [22:41:59] <Colin[pi]> when I'm on the road with cars, you take your life in your own hands
2397: [22:42:09] <Blacklite> yea, i prefer to just drive a car
2398: [22:42:29] <Colin[pi]> yea it goes through packs of cyclists really smoothly ;P
2399: [22:42:44] <Blacklite> yea, hardly even a bump
2400: [22:42:52] <Blacklite> road noise is good in the alfa too, can't hear the screaming
2401: [22:43:01] <Colin[pi]> ...alfa you say? which one?
2402: [22:43:09] <Blacklite> 156
2403: [22:43:12] <Colin[pi]> ooh
2404: [22:43:16] <Colin[pi]> any niggles?
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2406: [22:43:33] <Blacklite> yea, a relay failed last week, a $40 part
2407: [22:43:44] <Colin[pi]> good ol' alfas and their probs :D
2408: [22:43:46] <Blacklite> incorrectly diagnosed as head gasket by another mechanic
2409: [22:43:55] <Colin[pi]> I was very, very tempted to get a Giulietta
2410: [22:44:14] <Blacklite> yeah, to be honest, i know the 156 is older but it's the best looking imo
2411: [22:44:22] <Colin[pi]> naw dude, Brera... my GOD they are prety cars
2412: [22:44:25] <Colin[pi]> *pretty
2413: [22:44:25] <Blacklite> giuliette is damn good looking though
2414: [22:44:32] <Blacklite> giulietta*
2415: [22:44:39] <Blacklite> guille coming out soon, sedan
2416: [22:45:10] <Blacklite> http://i.imgur.com/LNRnsd4.jpg
2417: [22:45:14] <Blacklite> soooooo sexy
2418: [22:45:17] <Colin[pi]> brera is prolly the only car I know that looks gorgeous from EVERY angle: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=brera&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=YBv&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Tx1tVPbnL8GRmwWQ74L4Dg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=891
2419: [22:45:50] <Blacklite> it does have one unflattering angle
2420: [22:45:51] <Colin[pi]> like, the giulietta is pretty, but I'm not sold on the front lights
2421: [22:45:54] <Blacklite> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Alfa_Romeo_Brera.jpg
2422: [22:46:09] <Colin[pi]> mm somewhat lol
2423: [22:46:13] <Colin[pi]> looks like it has a fat arse
2424: [22:46:15] <Colin[pi]> :D
2425: [22:46:16] <Blacklite> back reminds me of a porsche 928
2426: [22:46:25] <Blacklite> which is, in my opinion, a very ugly car
2427: [22:46:39] <Colin[pi]> I think porsche's in general are pretty fugly
2428: [22:46:42] <Colin[pi]> never been a fan
2429: [22:46:58] <Blacklite> http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/front_website/octane_interact/modelpicture.php?id=2304
2430: [22:47:02] <Blacklite> i just really don't like the fat ass
2431: [22:47:07] <Olliepop> sorry Colin[pi] you should get checked out
2432: [22:47:26] <Colin[pi]> Olliepop: nah man, to each their own... just don't like how they look
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2434: [22:47:49] <Blacklite> 911 costs $30k to buy
2435: [22:47:50] <Blacklite> insane
2436: [22:47:54] <Blacklite> like, the 80's ones
2437: [22:48:04] <Colin[pi]> Blacklite: so I came close to getting a Giulietta, but sense prevailed and I bought a Honda Civic Sport lol
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2439: [22:48:10] <Blacklite> hah
2440: [22:48:15] <Olliepop> Best car ever made? The MKV Golf GTI http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/d9eb12c0-86b7-4bba-a3ec-e81b2e0e4fb0/Large%20Image.jpg?p=080728_02%3A24
2441: [22:48:16] <Colin[pi]> Blacklite: that car will outlast me, I hope
2442: [22:48:20] <Blacklite> probabl
2443: [22:48:21] <Blacklite> y
2444: [22:48:29] <Blacklite> i have a nissan as well, a little 1.5l wagon
2445: [22:48:39] <Blacklite> which is what i use 90% of the time
2446: [22:48:39] <Colin[pi]> Olliepop: yeah except for the mechanical/reliability prob stats
2447: [22:48:48] <Olliepop> http://autopazar.co.uk/media/8567/Used_Volkswagen_Golf_2_0t_Gti_3_Door_Hatchback_Black_2007_Petrol_for_Sale_in_UK.jpg
2448: [22:49:34] <Colin[pi]> this chart is largely what sold me on Honda: http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/2014-Vehicle-Dependability-Study-Press-Release.htm
2449: [22:49:43] <Blacklite> they do make very reliable cars
2450: [22:49:47] <Blacklite> honda civic / toyota corolla
2451: [22:49:59] <Colin[pi]> yep, two most reliable best selling cars in the world
2452: [22:50:12] <Colin[pi]> and you dont notice until you get one, but they're frickin EVERYWHERE
2453: [22:50:18] <Blacklite> i was at vtnz the other day watching a merc get tested
2454: [22:50:36] <Blacklite> thinking... why would someone spend that much money just to tell everyone they are dull and boring
2455: [22:50:49] <Colin[pi]> haha
2456: [22:50:58] <Olliepop> In the Toyota production process if there's a fault discovered, all workers stop working and congregate to fix it
2457: [22:51:11] <Olliepop> Whereas BMW fixes at the end of the process
2458: [22:51:20] <Ryan-Toast> Blacklite: Because it’s a status symbol for old people.
2459: [22:51:24] <Blacklite> yeah
2460: [22:51:25] <Olliepop> increasing likelihood of occurring again
2461: [22:51:29] <Colin[pi]> mm toyota is very good, I decided against them though because of the interior
2462: [22:51:29] <Blacklite> hitler's status symbol
2463: [22:52:02] <Ryan-Toast> when I get back from Europe, this mother fucker is mine! http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mitsubishi/auction-809610464.htm
2464: [22:52:21] <Ryan-Toast> just need to burn that god-awful numberplate.
2465: [22:52:21] <Blacklite> nice
2466: [22:52:35] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: yeah the numberplate made me cringe a little
2467: [22:52:36] <Blacklite> i looked at gto's
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2469: [22:52:44] <antmas_> Ryan-Toast: dude
2470: [22:52:48] <antmas_> not if I buy it first :D
2471: [22:52:49] <Blacklite> also nissan 350z and 380 etc
2472: [22:52:58] <Ryan-Toast> antmas_: I will literally murder you :)
2473: [22:53:09] <antmas_> My (obtainable) dream car is a Datsun 240z
2474: [22:53:14] <Blacklite> "Rego only $100 a year as vehicle 40yrs old."
2475: [22:53:16] <Ryan-Toast> Blacklite: I’d rather got a 180sx over a 350
2476: [22:53:23] <Blacklite> yeah
2477: [22:53:24] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: as opposed to figuratively?
2478: [22:53:27] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: yes.
2479: [22:53:42] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: that cooler you got
2480: [22:53:47] <antmas_> what Noctua model was it?
2481: [22:53:55] <Colin[pi]> antmas_: umm
2482: [22:53:55] <Colin[pi]> shit
2483: [22:53:57] <Colin[pi]> um
2484: [22:53:59] <Colin[pi]> I cant remember
2485: [22:54:01] <Colin[pi]> hang on
2486: [22:55:00] <Blacklite> thing is
2487: [22:55:06] <Blacklite> you have the japanese sound, then you have the italian sound...
2488: [22:55:57] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I think it's this one: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=64&lng=en
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2490: [22:56:25] <antmas_> Blacklite: Datsun 240z is a perfect balance of that :P
2491: [22:56:45] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: ah good, that's the one I put on my list
2492: [22:56:54] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: not the HUGE one, like the next model down
2493: [22:57:08] <Colin[pi]> antmas_: yep, and check this out: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-U14S/6.html
2494: [22:57:40] <Colin[pi]> having two fans makes very little diff it seems
2495: [22:57:45] <antmas_> Ryan-Toast: Blacklite Colin[pi] my babies https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eDUkBpn_R6M&list=PLtoI3QrvJpTzxHu7Arw78-AgNoEu0dgL0
2496: [22:58:05] <antmas_> Ryan-Toast: Colin[pi] Blacklite that channel is god tier
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2498: [22:58:37] <Ryan-Toast> antmas_: I built a datsun 120 with an sr20det back in the day.
2499: [22:58:39] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: perfect, this is my list http://pricespy.co.nz/list.php?l=124006&view=m
2500: [22:58:43] <Ryan-Toast> May be able tofind a pic.
2501: [22:58:50] <Blacklite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvkmOvVn8aU
2502: [22:59:06] <Colin[pi]> antmas_: not 16GB?
2503: [22:59:19] <antmas_> Blacklite: mate at work has one of them, most unreliable car on the planet
2504: [22:59:35] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: I was going for 16, but figuring out where best cost savings is
2505: [22:59:45] <antmas_> 200 for 16, 100 for 8
2506: [22:59:58] <Colin[pi]> yeah alfas look and sound great, but... I just couldn't convince the logical part of my brain to buy one
2507: [22:59:59] <antmas_> I want to keep it as close to $1550 as poss
2508: [23:00:04] <Blacklite> engine is bullet proof
2509: [23:00:12] <antmas_> engine is yeah
2510: [23:00:20] <Colin[pi]> dem electrical probs
2511: [23:00:27] <antmas_> and running gear
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2514: [23:00:36] <Blacklite> always buy manual
2515: [23:00:48] <Colin[pi]> ...and I drive auto, so that's me screwed
2516: [23:01:24] <antmas> yeah mine's auto too :P
2517: [23:01:45] <Colin[pi]> I like my flappy paddles :D
2518: [23:01:49] <Blacklite> i drove mine back from auckland, 8 hours no worries
2519: [23:01:53] <Blacklite> thermostat was dead though
2520: [23:02:00] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: found it: http://i.imgur.com/FxKbrWO.jpg
2521: [23:02:16] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nice!
2522: [23:02:27] <antmas> although, I can't stand seeing buckets like that in a classic
2523: [23:02:31] <antmas> looks so weird
2524: [23:02:34] <Blacklite> main things on them are suspension items which got wrecked on mine, cause previous owner didn't replace brake pads
2525: [23:02:34] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: it was for the track
2526: [23:02:41] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I know :P
2527: [23:03:21] <antmas> I MUST HAZ http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/nissan/auction-807842716.htm
2528: [23:03:35] <Blacklite> also couldn't indicate left when i bought it... drove back from auckland like that lol
2529: [23:04:36] <Kingy> speaking on cars.. anyone want to buy a Mazda Axela (3) 2005 :D
2530: [23:04:42] <veb> no
2531: [23:04:46] <Blacklite> yea, na
2532: [23:04:47] <veb> get your shitty white car out of here
2533: [23:04:51] <novaweb> are there any ss meetups before the end of the year?
2534: [23:04:56] <Blacklite> lol
2535: [23:05:00] <Kingy> fuuuuu
2536: [23:05:03] <veb> lol
2537: [23:05:06] <antmas> :P
2538: [23:05:25] <Blacklite> it's funny, everyone around me likes the alfa, but nobody would ever buy it from me
2539: [23:05:28] <Kingy> $8k
2540: [23:05:57] <antmas> Blacklite: that's pretty typical of most people with Alfas
2541: [23:06:02] <Blacklite> yep
2542: [23:06:03] <antmas> I really want that, but I won't buy that
2543: [23:06:04] <antmas> :P
2544: [23:06:14] <Blacklite> i didn't buy it for reliability though
2545: [23:06:53] <Blacklite> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/AlfaRomeo25V6.JPG
2546: [23:07:06] <veb> hnnnng
2547: [23:07:10] <veb> that's sexy shit
2548: [23:07:17] <Blacklite> yea i know
2549: [23:07:29] <antmas> ahhhh headers
2550: [23:07:32] <antmas> hnnnnngngg
2551: [23:07:39] <Blacklite> only alfa would sacrifice reliability for chrome bling
2552: [23:07:46] <antmas> lol
2553: [23:09:57] <Blacklite> when i drove back from auckland, it was kinda late at night, nobody on the roads... didn't put the stereo on at all
2554: [23:10:31] <Blacklite> in 1 year when i have successfully drained all my savings, i will have to just cry myself to sleep though. until then...
2555: [23:11:00] <antmas> haha
2556: [23:11:15] * antmas has just started savings account
2557: [23:11:32] <antmas> which will get drained as soon as I go to get cambelt done in 5ks :P
2558: [23:11:44] <Blacklite> yea... cam belt on alfa costs $2k
2559: [23:11:54] <antmas> :O
2560: [23:12:02] <antmas> mine will be about $500-$700
2561: [23:12:04] <Blacklite> some people recommend replacement at 60,000 kms as well
2562: [23:12:14] <Blacklite> to that, i say 'fuck off'
2563: [23:12:26] <Kingy> just to let you guys know, my mazda is chain driven
2564: [23:12:29] <Kingy> :D
2565: [23:12:31] <antmas> yeah mine's at 91k
2566: [23:12:36] <antmas> so will do at 95-ish
2567: [23:12:38] <Blacklite> yea, my nissan is chain driven too but it's still a boring lifeless piece of crap
2568: [23:12:48] <Kingy> lol
2569: [23:13:14] <Blacklite> did you guys join kiwisaver?
2570: [23:13:22] <Kingy> yessir
2571: [23:13:30] <Colin[pi]> yeah it's the servicing costs of alfa that almost made me hesitate
2572: [23:13:32] <antmas> I'm on a holiday from it
2573: [23:13:40] <Kingy> 4% every pay
2574: [23:13:47] <Blacklite> ah yep i did 3%
2575: [23:13:49] <Kingy> high risk investment
2576: [23:13:54] <Blacklite> nice
2577: [23:14:03] <antmas> I use work super ann, but I might do both when my pay rise comes in
2578: [23:14:15] <Kingy> I think i've just ticked over 19k
2579: [23:14:20] <Kingy> in <3 years
2580: [23:14:26] <Kingy> it's doing well lol
2581: [23:14:32] <Blacklite> wow
2582: [23:14:41] <Blacklite> mine's not doing quite that well
2583: [23:14:52] <Blacklite> but i'm in conservative and was getting paid shit all near the beginning
2584: [23:14:54] <antmas> Kingy: nice, you get 1k for every year (up to 5 years) when you buy a house too :D
2585: [23:15:00] <Blacklite> yea i've been in for 5 years
2586: [23:15:17] <antmas> I have like 4k in my KS :(
2587: [23:15:21] <Kingy> antmas: I'm going to Bahrain.. Realistically we'll save $6000NZD a month
2588: [23:15:21] <Blacklite> ha
2589: [23:15:27] <Blacklite> it's free money, at least do 3%
2590: [23:15:35] <Kingy> if we reallllllly wanted to we could push 7-8k
2591: [23:15:45] <Kingy> 2.5 year contract
2592: [23:15:46] <antmas> yeah I'm waiting until Dec for payrise :D
2593: [23:15:59] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: ping
2594: [23:16:15] <adrexia> 'sup?
2595: [23:16:18] <Kingy> be good to come back home in 2-3 years with almost 200k saved lol
2596: [23:16:29] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: heya, I seem to recall you did a mega menu site in SS?
2597: [23:16:43] <antmas> Kingy: make sure you take off cost of hookers and blow
2598: [23:16:46] <adrexia> a site with a mega menu? I've done lots :(
2599: [23:16:50] <Blacklite> yea
2600: [23:16:52] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: oh :(
2601: [23:16:54] <Blacklite> my friend just got back from vegas
2602: [23:17:00] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: any caveats to know about re: ss? like performance?
2603: [23:17:05] <Blacklite> lost $2500 american in one night
2604: [23:17:06] <Kingy> antmas: yeah it does
2605: [23:17:07] <Kingy> lol
2606: [23:17:10] <adrexia> yep -cache the hell out of it
2607: [23:17:12] <Blacklite> some 'hangover' style shit
2608: [23:17:22] <Blacklite> like, he was up $2100
2609: [23:17:26] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: mm, I need to make one... I tried to talk them out of it :(
2610: [23:17:27] <Blacklite> from playing poker all day
2611: [23:17:31] <adrexia> and it there are too many things you need to shwo, consider ajax
2612: [23:17:42] <adrexia> only first level, or like everything?
2613: [23:17:54] <Colin[pi]> I think first level, thankfully
2614: [23:18:02] <Blacklite> got in a limo, and that's the last thing he remembers. either he went to the strip club and pissed it all away, or he got robbed - he has no idea
2615: [23:18:02] <adrexia> cool, it should be fine then
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2618: [23:18:37] <adrexia> it's when you get to this level - http://nmit.ac.nz/ you hit issues. You can talk to ss23 about that ;)
2619: [23:18:58] <adrexia> mega menus are pretty poor ux
2620: [23:19:05] <Blacklite> yea, i hate them
2621: [23:19:08] <Kingy> Blacklite: I wouldn't even be mad
2622: [23:19:09] <Colin[pi]> yeah they are shit
2623: [23:19:16] <Colin[pi]> but clients gon' client
2624: [23:19:17] <Blacklite> Kingy: yeah he's just pissed he can't remember it
2625: [23:19:20] <adrexia> so the very best reason not to use them is that they don't do what you want them to be doing
2626: [23:19:24] <adrexia> but... politics
2627: [23:19:44] <Kingy> Blacklite: It's nights like that you need google glass or a GoPro attached to your forehead lol
2628: [23:19:56] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: that site doesn't seem too bad?
2629: [23:20:05] <Colin[pi]> or am I missing something?
2630: [23:20:06] <Blacklite> yea, although if he got robbed, they'd steal that too
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2632: [23:20:10] <adrexia> yeah - it's been optimized to hell now ;)
2633: [23:20:24] <adrexia> was pretty poor when it was first launched though
2634: [23:20:24] <Snowman23> 12:18:38 < adrexia> it's when you get to this level - http://nmit.ac.nz/ you hit issues. You can talk to ss23 about that ;)
2635: [23:20:28] <Snowman23> nothing compared to the nelson mega menu
2636: [23:20:34] <adrexia> oh yeah taht one too
2637: [23:20:37] <Snowman23> http://nelson.govt.nz/
2638: [23:20:38] <antmas> lol nelson mega menu
2639: [23:20:38] <Kingy> Blacklite: not always. Have you seen that video of the guy in Argentina who got robbed
2640: [23:20:41] <antmas> 1gb brah
2641: [23:20:42] <Blacklite> no
2642: [23:20:43] <adrexia> beat its the same design company
2643: [23:20:47] <adrexia> remind me to never use them
2644: [23:20:47] <Kingy> saying Amigo over and over l
2645: [23:20:48] <Kingy> lol
2646: [23:20:49] <antmas> adrexia: it is
2647: [23:21:01] <Snowman23> Hire someone to build the entire theme, pay them out, "SilverStripe, make it live!"
2648: [23:21:02] <Colin[pi]> oh jesus now THAT one is bad
2649: [23:21:05] <Kingy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iudb0amH0sY
2650: [23:21:09] <Snowman23> -> uses 1gb memory to generate the menu and crashes the server
2651: [23:21:19] <Colin[pi]> rofl
2652: [23:21:26] <adrexia> yeah
2653: [23:21:27] <antmas> Snowman23: hahahaha
2654: [23:21:36] <antmas> I watched a web talk with the guy that did the design
2655: [23:21:48] <antmas> he basically has sex with jquery every night
2656: [23:21:58] <Blacklite> :/
2657: [23:22:05] <adrexia> there are many very good reasons not to use mega manus, only only one not very good reason to use them - it makes all your stackholders happy because they are linked to from everywhere
2658: [23:22:07] <Blacklite> oh yeah Kingy i have seen that
2659: [23:22:12] <adrexia> nevermind that users still won't find the link
2660: [23:22:48] <Colin[pi]> <antmas> he basically has sex with jquery every night <-- lol wut
2661: [23:23:03] <mahfuz> He everyone. Can anyone give me some idea about this code here - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/546d211927193
2662: [23:23:37] <antmas> Colin[pi]: he's a designer that gives no fucks about logical implementation
2663: [23:23:47] <antmas> is pretty much what I gathered from his talk
2664: [23:24:29] <Blacklite> argentina
2665: [23:24:52] <Blacklite> i read this interesting article about sliders
2666: [23:25:02] <Blacklite> and how they are basically there to please stakeholders
2667: [23:25:16] <Colin[pi]> Blacklite: carousels?
2668: [23:25:19] <Blacklite> yea
2669: [23:25:21] <antmas> same deal
2670: [23:25:30] <Blacklite> "oh you want this new content to be on the home page? we'll add it to the carousel, we'll even make it the first slide!"
2671: [23:25:39] <Blacklite> rinse, repeat.
2672: [23:25:42] <antmas> it's like I regret showing a slient a <video> background
2673: [23:25:51] <antmas> client*
2674: [23:25:56] <Blacklite> haha
2675: [23:25:59] <Blacklite> our new site has one
2676: [23:26:43] <antmas> Yeah I'm doing one at the mo, but not full screen, just full width
2677: [23:26:46] <Colin[pi]> antmas: haha you fool
2678: [23:26:48] <Colin[pi]> :D
2679: [23:27:21] <Blacklite> https://contact.co.nz/personal
2680: [23:27:39] <Blacklite> did a video thingy for them too
2681: [23:27:45] <Blacklite> turns out it's hard to scale them correctly though
2682: [23:28:02] <antmas> where's the video?
2683: [23:28:04] <Blacklite> looks like it's gone lol
2684: [23:28:15] <Blacklite> there was a cat
2685: [23:28:20] <antmas> haha
2686: [23:28:28] <Blacklite> i don't work there anymore
2687: [23:29:34] <Blacklite> maybe it didn't work in ie8 so they removed it or something.. lol
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2689: [23:34:33] <Kingy> when does anything ever work in IE8?
2690: [23:34:37] <antmas> somone suggested we get a drone to capture video of council meetings
2691: [23:34:43] <antmas> all I can think of is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnySBqioB0
2692: [23:34:52] <mahfuz> Can anyone give me some direction on it - I have 2 Dataobject Classes (Lightbox(1) and LightboxPhoto(many)) in one to many relationship. I am trying to change LightboxID field of a LightboxPhoto object but its creating 2 entries in database.
2693: [23:34:55] <Colin[pi]> antmas: hahaha
2694: [23:37:22] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
2695: [23:37:42] <Stomach> mahfuz - $lbp = LightBoxPhoto::get()->filter('LightboxID', 1)->first(); $lbp->LightboxID = 2; $lbp->write()
2696: [23:37:45] <Stomach> does that work?
2697: [23:39:50] * _muskie9_ is now known as muskie9
2698: [23:40:56] <mahfuz> Let me try Stomach
2699: [23:42:32] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
2700: [23:42:34] * _muskie9_ is now known as muskie9
2701: [23:45:55] <antmas> this is epic http://gizmodo.com/barbie-f-cks-it-up-again-1660326671
2702: [23:48:43] <mahfuz> Stomach: I tried this earlier. tried once again. It is changing the LightboxID field of the record that I can see from the database but creating another record with some values some fields are not present in the new record
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2705: [23:50:12] <mahfuz> Let me give my code here - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/546d279730864
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