#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 23 October 2014

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1: [00:05:24] <antmas> what to lunch
2: [00:05:50] <Mahfuz> Any idea?
3: [00:06:01] <Kingy> antmas: running yet?
4: [00:06:13] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, since it's a DataList rather than an individual Project, you want to use $results->relation('Students')
5: [00:06:18] <antmas> Kingy: lol no :(
6: [00:06:25] <simon_w|work> antmas, lasagne!
7: [00:06:27] <antmas> need to though, badly
8: [00:06:41] <Stomach> Mahfuz - add ->first() to the call
9: [00:06:51] <Stomach> at the moment you're getting a datalist back from the query
10: [00:07:18] <Stomach> and you want to grab the first matching record of the query, which will then be the Project object which will allow the ->Students Call
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12: [00:07:38] <Stomach> $results = SiteTree::get()->filter(array( 'ClassName' => 'Project', 'Project.Title' => 'Developer Toolbar')); $students = $results->first()->Students();
13: [00:07:49] <simon_w|work> Stomach, what if there's multiple projects?
14: [00:07:58] <simon_w|work> This is what ->relation is for
15: [00:08:32] * Stomach hasn't ever heard of that
16: [00:09:11] <Stomach> ooo handy
17: [00:10:13] <Mahfuz> what will be the full code with ->relation ?
18: [00:11:14] <Stomach> $students = $results->relation('Students');
19: [00:11:15] <Stomach> I assume
20: [00:13:53] <Mahfuz> This code still give errors
21: [00:13:54] <Mahfuz> $results = SiteTree::get()->filter(array( 'ClassName' => 'Project', 'Project.Title' => 'Developer Toolbar')); $students = $results->relation('Students');
22: [00:15:49] <simon_w|work> Oh right, it works on the dataclass
23: [00:17:11] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, $results = SiteTree::get()->filter(array('ClassName' => 'Project', 'Title' => 'Developer Toolbar')); $students = singleton('Project')->Students()->forForeignID($results->column('ID'));
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25: [00:20:08] <Mahfuz> Thanks simon. It is running ok. Let me try this with my real project. So there is no easier way to query for this kind of relationships among objects derived from Page?
26: [00:20:31] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, not when those objects don't have their own tables
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28: [00:28:03] <Mahfuz> simon: in my real project 3 objects were derived from Page and only one of them didn't have private static $db = array(.......); I added private static $db = array ('Nothing' => 'Boolean'); as per a previous suggestion, do you think now this type of query involving several objects should work?
29: [00:28:18] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, yup
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32: [00:29:33] <folibis> hi all!
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34: [00:30:15] <Ryan-Toast> hi
35: [00:30:19] <Berocca> hey all - anyone here managed to get AWS Dynamodb sessions working that can spare me a few moments?
36: [00:30:35] <folibis> what can it be - I moved my site from one host to another, files DB dump etc. but now I see ?? instead of my site )
37: [00:30:59] <Ryan-Toast> folibis: probs your ..htaccess
38: [00:31:08] <folibis> ah, I use nginx
39: [00:31:33] <folibis> but i copied nginx config files to a new server
40: [00:31:35] <Ryan-Toast> set it to dev mode, and see if you can run a dev/build
41: [00:31:45] <Mahfuz> I will try with that but could you tell me another thing. Like can I merge different set of $students recordset in a single recordset with duplication? If yes what could be the syntax of merging recordsets $students1, $students2 and $students3
42: [00:32:22] <folibis> when i run de/build it says - "Database build completed!"
43: [00:32:54] <folibis> what is dev mode? how can I switch it on?
44: [00:33:26] <Ryan-Toast> nif the build worked fine, now do a ?flush=all
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46: [00:34:49] <UncleCheese> Mahfuz typically you shouldn't have to do that
47: [00:34:49] <spronk> wow
48: [00:34:54] <folibis> ?flush=all does nothing as I see ...
49: [00:35:02] <spronk> apple actually looking like a cost effective option for a dev laptop
50: [00:35:11] <UncleCheese> oh?
51: [00:35:30] <UncleCheese> In other news, another fucking kebab shop on Courtenay Place!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!
52: [00:35:38] <spronk> now that you can't customise dell machines, they're pretty terrible :|
53: [00:35:52] <UncleCheese> Because whenever I walk down Courtenay Place, I always say, damn.. where can I get a fucking kebab?
54: [00:36:22] <spronk> i don't get it
55: [00:36:28] <spronk> is courtenay place full of kebab shops?
56: [00:36:46] <Mahfuz> UC: As I will be fetching the records with several queries for the advanced search, i need to merge them without duplication before sending them to template. That's why?
57: [00:37:32] <UncleCheese> Why can't you do it in a single query?
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59: [00:38:27] <UncleCheese> usually you only have to merge result sets when you have different types of objects populating a list
60: [00:39:16] <UncleCheese> spronk $899 for an Air.. crazy
61: [00:39:41] <Mahfuz> As I will be using queries like this as it works - $results = SiteTree::get()->filter(array('ClassName' => 'Project', 'Title' => 'Developer Toolbar')); $students = singleton('Project')->Students()->forForeignID($results->column('ID'));
62: [00:40:28] <UncleCheese> So you want a single list that has both projects and students in it
63: [00:41:01] <Mahfuz> I don't know how to use filterAny in here with multiple criteria?
64: [00:41:44] <Mahfuz> Let me paste an excerpt of my real code and then come back with what I want
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66: [00:42:09] <spronk> wow
67: [00:42:16] <spronk> dell don't even let you add more ram at purchase time "|
68: [00:44:33] <spronk> and almost none of their machines have ssds
69: [00:44:35] <spronk> wwwttfff
70: [00:45:17] <UncleCheese> Question............ if my in laws come over from the US on christmas and bring us new iPhones, are they going to get hassled by immigration and be forced to pay duty?
71: [00:45:23] <spronk> hmm
72: [00:45:29] <spronk> if they are in box
73: [00:45:32] <spronk> and sealed
74: [00:45:33] <spronk> probably.
75: [00:45:36] <UncleCheese> i mean, if it's a gift, you're ok, right?
76: [00:45:45] <UncleCheese> yeah, i was going to say, just take them out of th ebox
77: [00:45:53] <spronk> yeah
78: [00:45:57] <spronk> if you take out of the box, they should be fine
79: [00:46:17] <simon_w|work> UncleCheese, depends if you declare them or not
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81: [00:47:01] <UncleCheese> ah, ok
82: [00:47:13] <UncleCheese> so if they declare them as gifts on the way in, should be ok?
83: [00:47:16] <jordanmk> @simon_w, when i change the code (http://pastebin.com/fiENW8N0) to 'Root.Main', i still get the exact same error of [User Error] FieldList::addFieldToTab() Tried to add a tab to object 'FieldList' - 'Root' didn't exist.
84: [00:48:40] <UncleCheese> ugh, if it's more than $110 you have to pay tax
85: [00:50:00] <Tanger> Top of the morning to you all!
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87: [00:50:20] <Mahfuz> Here are all 3 Classes(Photo, PhotoModel, PhotoCollection) all derived from Page - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/54484a5576950 - For example I want to get all the Photos with PhotoModel.Gender=='Male' and PhotoModel.AgeRange=='7-8 Years' and Ethnicity=='Maori' And PhotoCollection.Title=='something'
88: [00:51:41] <UncleCheese> Mahfuz that's a single query
89: [00:52:12] <Tanger> jordanmk: I'm not sure if the ModelAdmin has a Root tabset
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92: [00:52:49] <Mahfuz> Yeah I was planning to do that but as I will be dealing with this query like this - $results = SiteTree::get()->filter(array('ClassName' => 'Project', 'Title' => 'Developer Toolbar')); $students = singleton('Project')->Students()->forForeignID($results->column('ID'));
93: [00:52:54] <Tanger> I would FB out the FieldList returned from $form->Fields() and see what it says
94: [00:52:59] <zippy> Mahfuz: hello
95: [00:53:05] <Mahfuz> where to add all my conditions
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98: [00:53:26] <markcl> Hello
99: [00:53:29] <zippy> UncleCheese: peaceful night?
100: [00:53:33] <Mahfuz> Hi zippy
101: [00:53:35] <UncleCheese> for us
102: [00:53:40] <UncleCheese> they hit the neighbour
103: [00:53:43] <zippy> oh
104: [00:53:45] <UncleCheese> but didn't get in
105: [00:53:49] <zippy> phew
106: [00:53:51] <UncleCheese> camera is set up and working great
107: [00:53:57] <UncleCheese> i love that you can give it an FTP server
108: [00:54:08] <zippy> has quite a few options eh
109: [00:54:13] <UncleCheese> totally
110: [00:54:15] <markcl> How do I make it so that http://mysite.com/profile/SomeonesName uses the specific function in a controller?
111: [00:54:26] <markcl> given that profile is a Page
112: [00:54:39] <Zauberfisch> markcl: afaik thats tricky
113: [00:54:42] <markcl> * ProfilePage
114: [00:54:43] <zippy> Mahfuz: $url_handlers and $allowed_actions
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116: [00:54:48] <Tanger> ^
117: [00:54:51] <Zauberfisch> you have to overwrite handleAction I think
118: [00:54:52] <UncleCheese> markcl ideally you have a controller action in between those
119: [00:55:07] <UncleCheese> is it not acceptible to have /profile/show/someones-name?
120: [00:55:14] <markcl> I tried
121: [00:55:15] <markcl> private static $allowed_actions = array('profile');
122: [00:55:15] <Zauberfisch> as UncleCheese pointed it, its much easier to du /profile/show/someone
123: [00:55:15] <markcl> private static $url_handlers = array(
124: [00:55:15] <markcl> '$Action/' => 'profile'
125: [00:55:15] <markcl> );
126: [00:55:18] <markcl> It doesnt work
127: [00:55:31] <UncleCheese> um, no 'profile' is your page URLSegment
128: [00:55:34] <Zauberfisch> when its a page, you shouldn't need url_handlers
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130: [00:55:45] <markcl> yeah, but the client insists on it being /profile/someone
131: [00:55:45] <Zauberfisch> just allowed_actions
132: [00:55:53] <markcl> because they want to keep their urls from the old site
133: [00:55:53] <Zauberfisch> markcl: then it becomes tricky
134: [00:55:55] <markcl> for SEO purposes
135: [00:55:57] <Tanger> markcl: If you just want an action, use yaml routes
136: [00:56:09] <Zauberfisch> I think you need to overwrite handleAction
137: [00:56:16] <UncleCheese> no, he shoudl haven't to
138: [00:56:21] <markcl> I don't want to use any external files
139: [00:56:21] <UncleCheese> url_handlers ftw
140: [00:56:22] <Zauberfisch> sure?
141: [00:56:27] <zippy> yea
142: [00:56:29] <markcl> as im also writing functional/behavioral tests for this
143: [00:57:00] <markcl> what do i put on urlhandlers UncleCheese?
144: [00:57:10] <UncleCheese> what is an example url that you want?
145: [00:57:48] <zippy> when I click a url, add a page (anything that does an ajax request in the CMS) it ends up like this. http://imgur.com/CXQ5Yx7
146: [00:57:53] <zippy> no js errors or anything
147: [00:58:05] <Tanger> markcl: http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/controller
148: [00:58:10] <markcl> UncleCheese: profile/someones-dynamically-generated-name
149: [00:58:10] <Tanger> There's a few examples in there
150: [00:58:12] <UncleCheese> so you have a page in the CMS with URLSegment = 'profile' ?
151: [00:58:21] <Tanger> Look up routing and access control
152: [00:58:25] <markcl> given profile is the Page's url segment.
153: [00:58:32] <markcl> yep
154: [00:58:35] <JeremyRoundill> What object types does the SilverStripe loop accept?
155: [00:58:36] <UncleCheese> ok
156: [00:58:46] <markcl> I looked at that page before asking here, Tanger
157: [00:58:55] <UncleCheese> JeremyRoundill any SS_List implementor
158: [00:59:06] <JeremyRoundill> UncleCheese: Cheers.
159: [00:59:19] <Tanger> Ah, k
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161: [00:59:59] <UncleCheese> so, markcl you want to overload the handleAction() method
162: [01:00:18] <Mahfuz> How can insert condition on Image Orientation in DataObject::Get query? Can anyone give me an example code?
163: [01:00:29] <markcl> I see
164: [01:00:33] <markcl> Thanks UncleCheese
165: [01:00:48] <UncleCheese> protected function handleAction($request, $action) { $person = Persion::get()->filter('Slug' => $action); return $this->renderWith('sometemplate') }
166: [01:01:02] <UncleCheese> else return $this->httpError(404);.
167: [01:01:18] <Stomach> you can do that without overloading handleaction I think
168: [01:01:21] <Stomach> lemme find some code
169: [01:01:29] * UncleCheese listens
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171: [01:04:21] <zippy> I dunno why cms ajax requests are doing it. Flushed and everything. It's like the json response is broken http://imgur.com/CXQ5Yx7
172: [01:04:35] <UncleCheese> zippy i've seen it before
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174: [01:04:50] <UncleCheese> gutted that i can't remember what fixed it
175: [01:05:00] <UncleCheese> because i spent a whole day on it
176: [01:05:18] <UncleCheese> it has to do with a bungled JSON response.. it's not valid JSON
177: [01:05:39] <UncleCheese> due to something being unintentionally injected into the response IIRC
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179: [01:05:50] <simon_w|work> zippy, you've probably got a _config.php that contains just "<?php" with no newline after it
180: [01:06:41] <Ryan-Toast> If you hold a key down on the new mac it come up with alternative letters… I just want to tell some one fuuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkkkk yyyyooouuuuuuuu
181: [01:06:53] <spronk> you can turn that off
182: [01:07:36] <UncleCheese> zippy what simon_w|work sounds familiar
183: [01:07:45] * antmas just realised that Ryan-Toast works for Toast and our neighbouring building is 'Dry Crust' (design shop)
184: [01:08:03] <zippy> checking
185: [01:08:09] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: “dry crust”? Is that some sort of fetish store
186: [01:08:22] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast you find that annoying?
187: [01:08:28] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Very much so
188: [01:08:37] <UncleCheese> so glad they finally brought it to osx.. it was a killer feature of ios
189: [01:08:39] <Berocca> Hey stojg - just to say I got your DynamoDB sessions work, so cheers for that code fella.
190: [01:08:56] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: y’all need alt codes
191: [01:08:57] <stojg> Berroca: sweet
192: [01:09:03] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nawww, design shop
193: [01:09:07] <UncleCheese> nah.. too hard to remember
194: [01:09:09] <antmas> print, web etc
195: [01:09:12] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I wasn’t being serious :P
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197: [01:09:30] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: ah
198: [01:09:37] * antmas chuckles
199: [01:10:17] <Berocca> Quick question - how did you end up running the garbageCollect in the end?
200: [01:10:43] <zippy> simon_w|work: nothing there. But I think it has to do with a space. I notice the requests are coming back with some spaces before hand
201: [01:11:12] <Mahfuz> What will be the correct syntax? - $results = Photo::get()->filter(array( 'StockPhoto.Orientation' => 'ORIENTATION_LANDSCAPE'));
202: [01:11:17] <Mahfuz> StockPhoto is an Image Object
203: [01:11:24] <Stomach> markcl, UncleCheese: http://devincharge.com/creating-custom-routes-silverstripe/
204: [01:12:13] <UncleCheese> Mahfuz Orientation is not a database field, unless you're saving it to the record on write
205: [01:12:18] <spronk> fuck me
206: [01:12:23] <spronk> how does anyone buy a non-apple laptop!?
207: [01:12:33] <stojg> Berocca, via a cronjob callling a Controller
208: [01:12:33] <spronk> there are so many numbers. and they all look the same.
209: [01:13:10] <UncleCheese> Stomach thought of that, but once you go to Director rules, you introduce global state
210: [01:13:13] <antmas> spronk: comes down to brand
211: [01:13:14] <Kingy> spronk: because it's not apple, that's how
212: [01:13:24] <UncleCheese> and therefore his CMS Page with URL Segment = 'profile' can't change
213: [01:13:27] <spronk> looking at HP.. they have so many fucking models
214: [01:13:32] <antmas> there are only really like 2-3 good windows laptop brands
215: [01:13:33] <spronk> even the EliteBook has like 10 models
216: [01:13:37] <Berocca> stojg - ok cool, sweet as. cheers for you help again.
217: [01:13:49] <spronk> what's the closest thing to a cheaper version of a macbook pro in windowsland?
218: [01:14:02] <stojg> halkyon wrote most of the code, so the props should go to hom
219: [01:14:04] <Kingy> I'm an ASUS fanboy
220: [01:14:06] <stojg> him*
221: [01:14:19] <antmas> spronk: best idea is to just look at MBP specs and choose a laptop on that and then find one with a similar chassis
222: [01:14:20] <Stomach> yeah I guess thats true enough
223: [01:14:23] <UncleCheese> why would you buy anything other than an apple laptop? they've won
224: [01:14:24] <zippy> '^\s{1,}<\?php' - found some space on my HomePage!
225: [01:14:27] <Stomach> I'm sure that I've done it somewhere
226: [01:14:30] <antmas> so that you get the same specs for 1/2 price
227: [01:14:35] <UncleCheese> Stomach honestly it's six of one, half a dozen of the other
228: [01:14:39] <spronk> well, my original thought UncleCheese was price, but...
229: [01:14:40] <Kingy> +1 antmas
230: [01:14:41] <UncleCheese> they both work, with slight tradeoffs
231: [01:14:50] <spronk> tbh it seems like apple's pricing isn't that bad
232: [01:14:52] <Stomach> UncleCheese - yeah
233: [01:14:54] <UncleCheese> $899.. that's pretty damn good
234: [01:14:58] <zippy> UncleCheese: but... isn't this year the year linux rises?
235: [01:15:08] <antmas> I usually look at Lenovo and non-consumer HPs
236: [01:15:17] <JeremyRoundill> Zippy, that was 1996.
237: [01:15:17] <UncleCheese> what you do is get apple hardware and run linux on it
238: [01:15:18] <Kingy> UncleCheese: link?
239: [01:15:22] <JeremyRoundill> We've already taken over.
240: [01:15:23] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: lol
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242: [01:15:40] <UncleCheese> http://www.apple.com/macbook-air/
243: [01:15:41] <spronk> i mean seriously
244: [01:15:55] <antmas> UncleCheese: USD?
245: [01:15:59] <spronk> how are you meant to decide between a 745 G2, 840 G1, 755 G2, and 850 G1 EliteBook
246: [01:16:00] <UncleCheese> ah, fuck
247: [01:16:09] <Kingy> was gonna say
248: [01:16:09] <UncleCheese> right
249: [01:16:11] <Kingy> $899 is cheap
250: [01:16:15] <antmas> this ^^
251: [01:16:21] <UncleCheese> i'll have my in laws bring it over for you :)
252: [01:16:31] <antmas> spronk: just look at the specs
253: [01:16:32] <UncleCheese> you'll jsut have to buy a power adapter
254: [01:16:36] <Stomach> free laptops for everybody!
255: [01:16:38] <Stomach> thanks UncleCheese
256: [01:16:43] <antmas> UncleCheese: thank you
257: [01:16:47] <spronk> but... i have no time for that shit
258: [01:16:55] <spronk> can't i just say.. i want quad core and a 256gb ssd?
259: [01:16:59] <antmas> spronk: :|
260: [01:17:03] <Mahfuz> Thanks UC for the info on Image Orientation
261: [01:17:04] <Stomach> what sort of quad core?
262: [01:17:04] <spronk> and they can give me some things to look at!?
263: [01:17:06] <antmas> spronk: yup
264: [01:17:27] <antmas> spronk: use pricespy or something to do spec filtering
265: [01:17:37] <spronk> ugh
266: [01:17:46] <spronk> that's such a colossal failure of hp/dell/lenovo
267: [01:17:51] * antmas is pedantic
268: [01:18:05] <antmas> I look at everything down to the chipset firmware :O
269: [01:18:06] <UncleCheese> spronk another option is get a shit $300 laptop, wipe it clean, and put linux on it
270: [01:18:13] <spronk> dell could simplify their lineup into 9 models in a small/medium/large, cheap/consumer/pro matrix
271: [01:18:26] <spronk> so could lenovo
272: [01:18:33] <spronk> though they have weird Yoga things
273: [01:19:10] <Stomach> downward dog laptop!
274: [01:19:52] <spronk> k
275: [01:20:02] <spronk> so my pricespy selection has resulted in... a line up of macbook pros.
276: [01:20:03] <zippy> spronk: http://www.ascent.co.nz/category.aspx?majorcatID=43&minorcatID=41 - then "Show more choices" on the filter on the left. Then you can set cpu cores and storage and stuff. might help
277: [01:20:22] <zippy> http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=9426483 - http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=425656 etc
278: [01:20:37] <Kingy> That's really the only problems with everything these days
279: [01:20:45] <Kingy> every new product that comes out has 60 different models
280: [01:20:50] <spronk> seriously
281: [01:20:52] <spronk> these companies are idiots.
282: [01:21:03] <spronk> no wonder apple is carving up
283: [01:21:10] <Kingy> Want a new motherboard.. well here is the PRO/ELITE/MAXIMUS/PRO-X1/PRO-XMV
284: [01:21:30] <spronk> / GAMER / SABRETOOTH/VE/VL/VX
285: [01:21:34] <Kingy> ^
286: [01:21:44] <Kingy> only real simple thing is CPU
287: [01:21:46] <Kingy> but even that is
288: [01:21:48] <spronk> /MGAMER /ITX
289: [01:21:52] <zippy> spronk: heh speaking of gamer... http://www.alienware.co.nz/#laptops - have some quad cores with ssd
290: [01:21:59] <Kingy> i7 with X/Y/Zghz and A/B/C cache
291: [01:22:04] <zippy> but. so much choice :)
292: [01:22:43] <zippy> I just love it how windows machines come with such awsesome software out of the box, like a trial of norton and trial of microsoft office.. such awesome, so useful
293: [01:22:59] <Kingy> zippy: first thing I do with a new laptop is format it
294: [01:23:03] <JeremyRoundill> Microsoft's got your back, zippy.
295: [01:23:12] <antmas> Apple users must be all just like 'I'll get the go fast one'
296: [01:23:26] <spronk> man it's hard to find battery life figures on these windows machines
297: [01:23:33] <JeremyRoundill> The first thing I do with a new laptop is sacrifice woodland critters on it.
298: [01:23:38] <spronk> seriously dell
299: [01:23:42] <spronk> slash hp slash lenovo
300: [01:23:42] <antmas> JeremyRoundill: rofl
301: [01:23:45] <Kingy> antmas: And that's the thing, take away the choice really
302: [01:23:46] <spronk> who the fuck cares how many cells are in the battery
303: [01:23:51] <antmas> dell sucks anyway
304: [01:23:54] <Kingy> Here is product 1.. you can have it with XGB or YGB
305: [01:24:00] <Kingy> done
306: [01:24:04] * Berocca quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
307: [01:24:52] <zippy> UncleCheese: simon_w|work had a space at the start of php file, sorted now chairs
308: [01:24:55] <spronk> its like none of them took any notice of steve jobs
309: [01:25:11] <UncleCheese> zippy in the ss docs there's a script for that
310: [01:25:16] <Colin[pi]> <Kingy> zippy: first thing I do with a new laptop is format it
311: [01:25:25] <Colin[pi]> ^ this
312: [01:25:32] <zippy> UncleCheese: a quick regex finds it
313: [01:25:38] <Colin[pi]> "oh a sweet new windows laptop! BURN THE SOFTWARE. BURN IT ALL TO THE GROUND."
314: [01:25:44] <Kingy> haha
315: [01:25:45] <UncleCheese> exactly
316: [01:25:55] <Colin[pi]> full of so much shitty bloatware
317: [01:26:11] <Kingy> and especially because it usually only comes with Windows HOME or whatever basic POS it is
318: [01:26:25] <Colin[pi]> if a laptop'
319: [01:26:26] <Colin[pi]> oops
320: [01:26:39] <Colin[pi]> if a laptop's performance is suffering from out of the box
321: [01:26:45] <Colin[pi]> inexcusable
322: [01:27:00] <Colin[pi]> mine was like 200% faster after format and reinstall
323: [01:27:44] <spronk> yeah
324: [01:27:50] <spronk> this is especially bad considering none of them come with SSDs
325: [01:27:53] <zippy> what microsoft doesn't want you to know from Colins 1 little trick
326: [01:27:53] <Colin[pi]> mm
327: [01:27:55] <spronk> how can dell still sell high end machines without ssds!?
328: [01:28:07] <spronk> wow seriously ascent
329: [01:28:10] <spronk> there was only one match?!
330: [01:28:48] <spronk> (notebook or ultraboook, intel, haswell i3/i5/i7, quad core, HDD+SSD or SSD, 8GB or 16GB ram, at least 2 USB3 ports)
331: [01:29:09] <Colin[pi]> also btw if you have an iOS 7 device you've updated to 8 (UncleCheese?), I found a wipe/restore with iOS 8 *really* boosted performance on my iPad
332: [01:29:18] * muskie9 is now known as _muskie9_
333: [01:29:21] <UncleCheese> hmm
334: [01:29:23] <spronk> oh?
335: [01:29:32] <Colin[pi]> bit more painful to do, but it really helped
336: [01:29:36] <spronk> Colin[pi], as in, upgraded 8 vs wiped 8?
337: [01:29:40] <Colin[pi]> mm
338: [01:29:50] <spronk> maybe i should do that with ios7 on my iphone 4:P
339: [01:29:56] <Colin[pi]> my theory being it wipes out all the shit you can't see behind the scenes
340: [01:29:57] <spronk> .... or maybe there is no hope
341: [01:30:09] <Kingy> on pricespy if you filter to SSD
342: [01:30:09] <Colin[pi]> and you get a clean slate
343: [01:30:10] <zippy> spronk: just get a 6... it's soooo much better! I went from 4 to 6...
344: [01:30:12] <Colin[pi]> so to speak
345: [01:30:12] <Kingy> half are apple products
346: [01:30:40] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: also iOS 8.1 is definitely faster, so thankfully apple seem to be tweaking
347: [01:30:53] <Colin[pi]> they see me tweakin... they hatin
348: [01:30:55] <spronk> have the wintel crowd got decade long contracts to fulfil with seagate and WD or something?
349: [01:31:15] <Kingy> ss23: rocking dialup at work?
350: [01:31:16] <Colin[pi]> spronk: seagate is now on my no buy list
351: [01:31:16] <spronk> http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=422513
352: [01:31:19] <Kingy> 45min to upload a 230MB file haha
353: [01:31:24] <spronk> $5k? seriously?
354: [01:31:55] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: I get 512k up here :(
355: [01:32:15] <Colin[pi]> as in kilobit, not byte :P
356: [01:32:30] <Kingy> http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=2284224
357: [01:32:55] <spronk> even that is kinda expensive
358: [01:33:04] <ss23> Kingy: uh, nope? :O
359: [01:33:04] <spronk> i mean, you can get a retina 13" mbp for that price
360: [01:33:08] <ss23> Kingy: We're on 50/50 I think
361: [01:33:19] <Kingy> lol
362: [01:33:23] <Kingy> well 45min ETA
363: [01:33:30] <Kingy> 230mb
364: [01:33:32] <Kingy> math don't compute
365: [01:34:24] <ss23> http://www.speedtest.net/result/3852577626.png
366: [01:34:31] <spronk> i don't understand
367: [01:34:36] <ss23> Kingy: ^^
368: [01:34:38] <spronk> why is that hp zbook so expensive
369: [01:34:56] <Kingy> lies i say
370: [01:35:24] <Kingy> http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=1525402
371: [01:35:27] <Kingy> SSD spronk
372: [01:35:35] <spronk> but
373: [01:35:37] <spronk> it's 256GB
374: [01:35:37] <ss23> Kingy: SOZ PROBLEM ON UR END L0L
375: [01:35:42] <spronk> i can go and buy one of those for $160
376: [01:35:49] <Kingy> ss23: This is Igor saying it to me
377: [01:35:49] <Kingy> :P
378: [01:36:06] <Kingy> I haven't even got the file yet haha
379: [01:38:01] <ss23> psh
380: [01:38:06] <ss23> point is, we got 50/50 and its working at 50/50
381: [01:38:07] <ss23> :D
382: [01:38:29] <Kingy> 50mbps/50bps more like
383: [01:38:31] <Kingy> :P
384: [01:38:44] <Kingy> eh doesn't worry me
385: [01:39:14] <Kingy> spronk: seems like you need to build your own
386: [01:39:16] <Kingy> gl
387: [01:39:17] <Kingy> :P
388: [01:39:27] <spronk> or maybe i'll just bite the bullet and get a macbook pro
389: [01:39:39] <novaweb> go spronk. Do it.
390: [01:40:11] <spronk> i guess i could get away with 8gb of ram..
391: [01:40:33] <zippy> 13 or 15?
392: [01:40:42] <spronk> 15
393: [01:40:56] <spronk> refurb for $2119..
394: [01:41:18] <zippy> sweet
395: [01:41:19] <Colin[pi]> I prefer the 13, better for travelling which is when I use mine most
396: [01:41:30] <spronk> this is going to be my main dev machine
397: [01:41:32] <spronk> for work
398: [01:41:33] <Colin[pi]> ah k
399: [01:41:45] <novaweb> agree Colin[pi] and you just plug in to a bigger monitor when at work
400: [01:41:50] <spronk> doing the shared office thing
401: [01:41:56] <spronk> i want the 15 for quad core
402: [01:42:06] <novaweb> moar powa
403: [01:42:15] <spronk> poweerrrrrrr
404: [01:42:36] <zippy> Is there an after login event I can tap into?
405: [01:43:02] <zippy> zippy: $this->extend('memberLoggedIn'); :D
406: [01:43:41] <zippy> that means in my extension, i can just do public function memberLoggedIn() yea?
407: [01:44:43] <Zauberfisch> hey guys
408: [01:44:51] <zippy> hi
409: [01:44:59] <Zauberfisch> to sum up what is being discussed on the dev mailing list about files:
410: [01:45:17] <Zauberfisch> is hamish proposing we store the raw file in a DB field, or am I getting that wrong?
411: [01:45:49] <Colin[pi]> I hope not
412: [01:46:04] <willr> base64 encode all the things.
413: [01:46:31] <Zauberfisch> ss23: any chance you could poke hamish to join irc?
414: [01:46:57] <ss23> Zauberfisch: i DOUBT IT
415: [01:47:06] <willr> Hamish would be mobbed.
416: [01:47:10] <ss23> uh
417: [01:47:11] <ss23> Yeah
418: [01:47:13] <willr> Like One Direction.
419: [01:47:14] <ss23> Zauberfisch: Seems a bit mean to do that...
420: [01:47:29] <Zauberfisch> say what? I am not following
421: [01:47:41] <Zauberfisch> ah
422: [01:47:42] <Zauberfisch> haha
423: [01:47:44] <Zauberfisch> ...
424: [01:47:46] <Zauberfisch> -.-
425: [01:48:11] <Zauberfisch> just get him to join IRC :P
426: [01:48:19] <ss23> He hasn't even responded to me regarding a work query, Zauberfisch
427: [01:48:33] <ss23> It's not in my power to get him to, sorry, Zauberfisch
428: [01:48:34] <Zauberfisch> by what ever means necessary
429: [01:48:37] <ss23> Ingo I could do, Hamish I cannot :P
430: [01:48:43] <Zauberfisch> D:
431: [01:48:43] <willr> Zauberfisch you’ll have to wait till the core dev Hangout!
432: [01:48:52] <Zauberfisch> paaah
433: [01:48:53] <ss23> lol
434: [01:48:57] <ss23> Sorry, Zauberfisch
435: [01:49:03] <Zauberfisch> not that I don't like the idea
436: [01:49:07] <Zauberfisch> but google handout D:
437: [01:49:47] <simon_w|work> There's supposed to be an IRC one every Friday morning!
438: [01:49:56] <Zauberfisch> yeah
439: [01:49:59] <Zauberfisch> !
440: [01:50:03] <Zauberfisch> which is today, isn't it?
441: [01:50:09] <Zauberfisch> no, wait, its thrusday
442: [01:50:14] <Kingy> lolol
443: [01:50:16] <Zauberfisch> :D
444: [01:50:23] <Kingy> got me excited
445: [01:51:32] * simon_w|work has counted maybe 5 of them happening in total since 2009
446: [01:51:59] <Zauberfisch> yeah
447: [01:52:18] <zippy> simon_w|work: ever get a response re that namespaces?
448: [01:52:39] <simon_w|work> zippy, yeah, things have moved to ss-dev
449: [01:52:57] <simon_w|work> And mooman actually noticed getting smacked down for not being open
450: [01:54:44] <Colin[pi]> why the move to ss-dev?
451: [01:55:19] <simon_w|work> To get it more public I guess
452: [01:55:25] <Colin[pi]> mm k
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454: [01:55:39] <Kingy> I thought it was to separate it out from the github issue
455: [01:55:48] <simon_w|work> https://github.com/HRMWeb/easyEMPLOYER/pull/6704
456: [01:55:50] <antmas> ^^^
457: [01:55:57] <simon_w|work> GitHub issue has also been moved to ss-dev
458: [01:56:14] <antmas> interesting
459: [01:57:23] <simon_w|work> Oops, wrong link
460: [01:57:41] <simon_w|work> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/silverstripe-dev/IZz_1tmaV2M/discussion
461: [01:58:15] <veb> Kingy: long meeting
462: [01:58:19] <veb> or did you stand me up
463: [01:59:13] <antmas> veb he probs stood you up
464: [01:59:25] * antmas glares at Kingy
465: [01:59:31] <antmas> o-o
466: [01:59:35] <Kingy> I talked to you 20min after I get brb meeting
467: [01:59:38] <Kingy> generally means i'm back
468: [01:59:39] <Kingy> lol
469: [02:00:44] <veb> you did?
470: [02:00:59] <markcl> This doesnt seem to work:
471: [02:01:00] <markcl> public function profile(SS_HTTPRequest $request){
472: [02:01:00] <markcl> return $this->redirect($this->AbsoluteLink());
473: [02:01:02] <markcl> I wonder why
474: [02:01:06] <markcl> It doesnt redirect
475: [02:01:11] <markcl> I did a flush = all
476: [02:01:22] <veb> easy
477: [02:01:24] <veb> PHP
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480: [02:02:28] <veb> markcl: are you sure the function is... being called?
481: [02:03:04] <veb> printf "Kingy smells like oranges"; die
482: [02:03:06] <veb> idk
483: [02:03:14] <simon_w|work> printf? Weirdo :p
484: [02:03:29] <veb> hmm
485: [02:03:34] <veb> yes, use an ech
486: [02:03:37] <veb> oooooooo
487: [02:04:18] <veb> simon_w|work: I originally was going to put absoluteLink or something
488: [02:04:23] <veb> but... BLEGH
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494: [02:09:41] <zippy> I want to dynaically set the default login destination to a page
495: [02:09:50] <zippy> so I can just set Security::config()->default_login_dest
496: [02:10:17] <simon_w|work> Dammit, have to brain switch from doing servery stuff and script profiling to javascript
497: [02:10:19] <simon_w|work> This is hard
498: [02:10:30] <novaweb> Who's the DJs tomorrow night? Does anyone want to womp to the wompness of my dubsteps. HA HA HA yeah right.
499: [02:10:31] <zippy> but I need to use a url from a page, but doing MyPage::get()->first() throws an error in the /mysite/_config.php ( ! ) Fatal error: Call to a member function hasField() on a non-object in framework/model/DataObject.php on line 238
500: [02:13:52] <simon_w|work> zippy, database connection doesn't exist in _config.php
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503: [02:16:54] <spronk> ahhh
504: [02:17:02] <spronk> that feeling when your shot comes out peeerefect
505: [02:17:18] <spronk> THIS GON' BE SOME TASTY MO' COFFEH
506: [02:18:08] <zippy> ....O.o
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508: [02:18:25] <zippy> Σ(゚Д゚)
509: [02:18:59] <zippy> UncleCheese: They probably not going back to your house now, already taken all the copper... ;-)
510: [02:19:11] <Colin[pi]> zippy: lol
511: [02:19:16] <UncleCheese> i wish it was a copper heist
512: [02:19:21] <UncleCheese> just turned on my camera
513: [02:19:26] <Colin[pi]> oh so what's the latest UC?
514: [02:19:31] <UncleCheese> cause my wife texted and said she's leaving the house
515: [02:19:38] <UncleCheese> and i immediately got an email with several photos
516: [02:19:43] <UncleCheese> the dog went upstairs :)
517: [02:19:46] <zippy> hahahaa
518: [02:19:51] <Colin[pi]> lol
519: [02:19:58] <UncleCheese> i want to catch this fucker so bad
520: [02:20:02] <zippy> least it works eh!
521: [02:20:03] <UncleCheese> i hope he comes in during the day
522: [02:20:11] <UncleCheese> nice clear photos
523: [02:20:13] <antmas> wait wait wait
524: [02:20:18] <UncleCheese> although the night vision is really good too
525: [02:20:19] <antmas> it's a dog and not a burlger?
526: [02:20:28] <antmas> burgler*
527: [02:20:42] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi] they came back last night, but went next door
528: [02:20:45] <UncleCheese> could not get in
529: [02:20:50] <Kingy> ss23: did Igor leave me hanging for the day?
530: [02:20:52] <UncleCheese> stupid neighbour didn't call the cops
531: [02:20:53] <Colin[pi]> fuck sake
532: [02:20:55] <UncleCheese> so frustrating
533: [02:20:57] <Colin[pi]> relentless aren't they
534: [02:21:08] <UncleCheese> just flashed his torch outside
535: [02:21:13] <UncleCheese> "oh, no one there.. i must be crazy"
536: [02:21:18] <Kingy> want to borrow my BB gun UncleCheese ?
537: [02:21:36] <UncleCheese> no, i have a 300 lumen LED torch that weights about 3KG
538: [02:21:37] <Colin[pi]> I think he's more at the shotgun stage now
539: [02:21:55] <Kingy> lol Colin[pi]
540: [02:22:00] <Kingy> if in doubt ramp it up
541: [02:22:09] <UncleCheese> no second ammendment here
542: [02:22:11] <UncleCheese> too bad
543: [02:22:48] <spronk> UncleCheese, overdrive the LED in it and strobe it in the thing's face
544: [02:23:07] <UncleCheese> maybe
545: [02:23:30] <UncleCheese> i dunno, i've looked straight into it and even in daylight it's pretty paralysing
546: [02:23:50] <UncleCheese> at night, when your eyes aren't adjusted and you're not expecting it.. i think it will at least buy me some time
547: [02:23:59] <zippy> UncleCheese: you just need the wife behind you with a plastic bag to pop...!
548: [02:24:00] <zippy> flash bag!
549: [02:24:02] <UncleCheese> although i really want to wallop the fucker
550: [02:24:09] <UncleCheese> yeah!
551: [02:24:12] <UncleCheese> kiwi style
552: [02:24:24] <zippy> flash bang rather.....
553: [02:24:29] <UncleCheese> torch + bag = kiwi flashbang
554: [02:24:49] <markcl> I want to put a Login Form in my template file
555: [02:24:52] <markcl> So I used $LoginForm
556: [02:24:59] <markcl> but it doesn't seem to work
557: [02:25:06] <markcl> is there any official way to do this?
558: [02:25:28] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: I once confronted a strange hoodie-wearing guy who was hanging around outside in the dark near my car
559: [02:25:35] <Colin[pi]> I went outside and shone a super bright torch in his face and shouted "WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?"
560: [02:25:41] <Colin[pi]> he was my new upstairs neighbour :(
561: [02:25:42] <markcl> the login just logs in people the same way the default one does.
562: [02:26:01] <markcl> That's really awkward Colin[pi]
563: [02:26:05] <Colin[pi]> yes, yes it was
564: [02:26:12] <spronk> hmm
565: [02:26:13] <Colin[pi]> cringe inducing to this day
566: [02:26:17] <spronk> 2 day old sushi in fridge
567: [02:26:18] <spronk> do i..
568: [02:26:20] <UncleCheese> markcl $LoginForm is what you want
569: [02:26:31] <markcl> UncleCheese: I did that
570: [02:26:36] <markcl> when I press submit nothing happens
571: [02:26:45] <UncleCheese> nothing happens?
572: [02:27:34] <markcl> well it does reload the pag
573: [02:27:36] <markcl> *page
574: [02:27:56] <ss23> Kingy: I dunno man! :O
575: [02:27:59] <ss23> I'm not Igors mom
576: [02:28:13] <Kingy> sigh
577: [02:28:22] <Kingy> that's probably a good thing
578: [02:28:23] <Kingy> lol
579: [02:33:07] <zippy> Colin[pi]: on the flip side, he'd be thinking the area is pretty safe with the neighbour watching out..
580: [02:33:41] <Zauberfisch> Colin[pi] willr ss23
581: [02:33:54] <willr> hello.
582: [02:34:15] <Zauberfisch> spoken with hamish, and good news, its not his intention to store files itself in the DB
583: [02:34:27] <Zauberfisch> posted to the mailing list what we spoke of
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585: [02:35:23] <UncleCheese> markcl it reloads the page.. and you're not logged in? what happens if you get the password wrong?
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590: [02:42:22] <ss23> oh man just got a horrible call from a client, trying to make me do work and stuff
591: [02:42:25] <ss23> so boooring
592: [02:43:06] <Colin[pi]> ss23 is all like, fuck you! you cant make me!
593: [02:43:38] <zippy> nek minute, Sam's phone rings
594: [02:44:02] <ss23> lol
595: [02:44:35] <jordanmk> Tanger: yeah it seems that ModelAdmin doesn't have a root tabset. in that case, is there any other way i could add a field above the GridField?
596: [02:47:28] <spronk> you know, files in db isn't THAT bad
597: [02:48:05] <spronk> for smaller files it's no problem
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599: [02:48:53] <spronk> larger files is a different story
600: [02:49:34] <UncleCheese> eh, jordanmk ?
601: [02:51:10] <jordanmk> UncleCheese, i'm trying to add a field (or anything) above the GridField in a ModelAdminExtension
602: [02:51:33] <ss23> spronk: Right up until you try copying them to another box
603: [02:51:35] <ss23> or putting them in s3
604: [02:51:40] <ss23> or doing anything you should be able to do with files :P
605: [02:51:55] <UncleCheese> which gridfield?
606: [02:51:58] <jordanmk> here's the code based on what @simon_w suggested - http://pastebin.com/fiENW8N0 - but that produces an error of [User Error] FieldList::addFieldToTab() Tried to add a tab to object 'FieldList' - 'Root' didn't exist.
607: [02:51:59] <spronk> ss23, still not that bad..
608: [02:52:02] <ss23> *content* in the DB isn't a bad thing, but files aren't in the DB by nature. Put your content in the database if it's appropriate, or a file if that's appropriate
609: [02:52:11] <UncleCheese> the result set?
610: [02:52:14] <jordanmk> yeah
611: [02:52:21] <spronk> if you're running mssql it's even better too
612: [02:52:25] <spronk> you can filestream that shit
613: [02:53:49] <jordanmk> UncleCheese, this is what i want to do: http://puu.sh/cmUjM/50a76366dd.png
614: [02:54:09] <jordanmk> except i put that text in using inspector; can't figure out how to actually do it
615: [02:54:32] <UncleCheese> sure
616: [02:54:34] <Ryan-Toast> jordanmk: Literal field
617: [02:54:53] <UncleCheese> what will the field do?
618: [02:54:54] <spronk> ss23, i would argue that it's actually safer in many cases to keep them in the db, because then you don't risk out of sync problems
619: [02:55:03] <UncleCheese> just some text?
620: [02:55:47] <jordanmk> Ryan-Toast, i don't know how to actually get the LiteralField to be before the GridField
621: [02:56:07] <Ryan-Toast> it’s the third parameter of addFieldToTab
622: [02:56:09] <jordanmk> UncleCheese, yeah just anything really. ideally it would be a HeaderField and then a LiteralField
623: [02:56:24] <UncleCheese> public function getEditForm($id = null, $fields = null) { return parent::getEditForm($id, $fields)->Fields()->unshift(HeaderField::create('Foo')); }
624: [02:56:39] <jordanmk> Ryan-Toast, the code i've got right now is http://pastebin.com/fiENW8N0, but that produces an error of [User Error] FieldList::addFieldToTab() Tried to add a tab to object 'FieldList' - 'Root' didn't exist.
625: [02:56:45] <UncleCheese> or if it's just text, create your own MyModelAdmin_Content.ss
626: [02:56:48] <Ryan-Toast> $fields->addFieldToTab(‘Root.YourTab’, new LiteralField(‘’, ‘herpderp’), ‘GridFieldName’);
627: [02:57:24] <UncleCheese> jordanmk there's no tabs in that view.. so don't use AddFieldToTab()
628: [02:57:41] <Ryan-Toast> jordanmk: Don’t listen to UC, he’s new here.
629: [02:57:50] <Ryan-Toast> :P
630: [02:57:58] <Ryan-Toast> seriously though, listen to that guy.
631: [02:58:33] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: isn’t events a tab?
632: [02:58:46] <zippy> UncleCheese: you been irc'ing it up large past few days. Bored at work?
633: [02:58:47] <UncleCheese> no
634: [02:58:56] <Ryan-Toast> Unclecheese: what is it?
635: [02:59:03] <jordanmk> UncleCheese, i tried your suggestion with unshift, but it produces the following: http://puu.sh/cmUCZ/a4e5e65cbb.png
636: [02:59:21] <UncleCheese> It's a problem with the 3.1 UX if you ask me, Ryan-Toast
637: [02:59:36] <UncleCheese> those top level tabs do different things depending on context
638: [03:00:10] <UncleCheese> in the view he's showing, it toggles between models
639: [03:00:10] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Yeah, I have that issue a lot when working with siteconfig
640: [03:00:19] <UncleCheese> sorry jordanmk , you can't return that result.. just capture parent::getEditForm(), and mutate as I've done
641: [03:00:20] <Ryan-Toast> just end up using findOrMakeTab
642: [03:00:36] <UncleCheese> Or use betterbuttons
643: [03:02:27] <jordanmk> UncleCheese: legend, that seems to have worked
644: [03:03:25] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I always get confused between my friends posts and little giants posts.
645: [03:03:38] <Ryan-Toast> His comapny is little cleaver.
646: [03:04:06] <Stomach> haha
647: [03:04:25] <Ryan-Toast> I messaged him saying how happy I was that he was trying out SS
648: [03:04:53] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: the site you guys just launched is getting a 404 for bootstrap.js
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650: [03:05:16] <UncleCheese> jordanmk you may have to add a condition to ensure you're not on detail view
651: [03:05:16] <UncleCheese> because the editform function serves both list and detail
652: [03:05:17] <Stomach> what site
653: [03:05:26] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Kouzina
654: [03:05:29] <Stomach> hmm
655: [03:05:34] * cloph quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
656: [03:05:43] <jordanmk> UncleCheese, it seems to only come up in the list view
657: [03:05:49] <UncleCheese> sweet as
658: [03:06:00] <irogue_> [15:24:12] <UncleCheese> kiwi style
659: [03:06:05] <irogue_> kiwi style would be to rugby tackle them
660: [03:06:16] <Stomach> thanks
661: [03:06:26] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: np, brobeans
662: [03:06:53] <UncleCheese> speaking of which
663: [03:06:54] <UncleCheese> McDonald's has a new billboard that shows a pie, and about 95% of it is one colour, and another 5% another.. like a pie chart
664: [03:06:54] <UncleCheese> and it denotes each one as "Sweet" (the big one) and "As" for the small one
665: [03:06:55] <spronk> lol brobeans
666: [03:06:56] <UncleCheese> and the copy is "Apple and Blackberry"
667: [03:07:26] <UncleCheese> am i the only one that thinks it's about smartphone market share?
668: [03:07:34] <spronk> hahaaa
669: [03:07:55] <zippy> :)
670: [03:08:10] <zippy> my $belongs_to relation is not pulling back the record in the template..
671: [03:08:17] * stojg quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
672: [03:08:44] <zippy> doing a Debug on it, the details are right, it's just not fetching it
673: [03:08:45] <spronk> gotta say though
674: [03:08:53] <spronk> that apple and blackberry pie is fucking tasty
675: [03:09:50] <Kingy> chow for dinner!
676: [03:09:52] <Kingy> hells yes
677: [03:10:58] <irogue_> this time tomorrow I'll be partying we'll be partying hard
678: [03:11:13] <Kingy> partying partying YEAH
679: [03:11:22] <Kingy> COZ ITS FRIDAY FRIDAY GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY
680: [03:12:18] <JeremyRoundill> Damnit irogue_, I always read your nick as irouge_
681: [03:12:27] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: careful, you'll rustle simon_w's jimmies
682: [03:12:32] <spronk> lawl
683: [03:12:47] <Kingy> lolol
684: [03:13:19] <Colin[pi]> http://i.imgur.com/G5S9rqq.gif
685: [03:13:29] <zippy> fook
686: [03:14:13] <zippy> zippy: you bloody skippy!
687: [03:14:31] <Kingy> always a concern when you talk to yourself
688: [03:21:10] <JeremyRoundill> What's the wecommended amount of dedotated wam to a server?
689: [03:21:47] <Kingy> JeremyRoundill: yes
690: [03:22:11] <Stomach> anyone used a sweet drag and drop image uploader on a front end SS form?
691: [03:22:24] <Stomach> something that will display a preview etc
692: [03:23:20] <Stomach> I've used dropzone before but it kind of sucked
693: [03:23:30] <antmas> Stomach: you know any examples of a good one?
694: [03:23:48] <Stomach> nope! :D
695: [03:24:13] <antmas> yea have fun with that
696: [03:24:15] <antmas> XD
697: [03:24:27] <Stomach> this is kind of what i want
698: [03:24:27] <Stomach> http://html5demos.com/dnd-upload
699: [03:24:32] <antmas> tbh there are probabyl shit loads out there
700: [03:25:35] <antmas> Stomach: why not just use that then? and make it look less fugly?
701: [03:25:40] <zippy> does the DropdownField automatically do some sort of ajax search if you pass in a ton of options
702: [03:25:42] <Stomach> this is the problem, the preview isnt gonna work anyway, because afterwards its gonna get resized anyhow
703: [03:25:45] <Stomach> so whats the fucking point
704: [03:26:03] <Stomach> zippy - it starts using chosen search if there are more than 10 I think
705: [03:26:14] <zippy> true, and I am passing in the wrong thing as well
706: [03:28:01] <spronk> hmm
707: [03:28:10] <spronk> anyone here found 8GB on a macbook pro isn't enough for them?
708: [03:28:20] <simon_w|work> Yes
709: [03:28:34] <simon_w|work> Makes compiling HHVM so slow
710: [03:29:02] <spronk> :(
711: [03:29:03] <spronk> damnit
712: [03:29:15] <spronk> fuck you apple for not including upgradable slots
713: [03:29:34] <spronk> $2k budget won't quite get me what i want
714: [03:29:48] <simon_w|work> Under normal usage, 8 GB's fine
715: [03:29:57] <simon_w|work> SSD would make it go even further too
716: [03:29:59] <spronk> normal usage as in, dveloper workload with a few vms etc?
717: [03:30:12] <simon_w|work> So long as the vms don't need much ram
718: [03:30:15] <spronk> hmm
719: [03:30:26] <spronk> i guess i could always get a cheap second hand ex-lease desktop to run the permanent VMs
720: [03:30:50] <simon_w|work> But I have spinning platters, so a SSD would improve it a lot
721: [03:31:20] <spronk> mm..
722: [03:31:38] <spronk> god
723: [03:31:47] <spronk> i would love a 13" macbook pro, a bit thicker, with quad core and ram slots.
724: [03:31:58] <simon_w|work> Ooh, quad core. That'd help too.
725: [03:31:58] <spronk> y u no do this apfel
726: [03:32:17] <spronk> you've got a dualie 15" right?
727: [03:32:24] <simon_w|work> Yeah, first gen i7
728: [03:32:29] <spronk> yeah
729: [03:32:45] <spronk> ive still got my old 2008 c2d 2.4" sitting on my desk for email, skype, IM
730: [03:32:48] <spronk> getting preeetty slow
731: [03:33:11] <spronk> i should have sold it a couple of years ago when it was worth money
732: [03:33:28] <spronk> i could probably get a high five for it no
733: [03:33:29] <spronk> w
734: [03:34:24] <simon_w|work> My 2007 C2D was pretty much dead when I got my current one (2010?), and then fully died soon after
735: [03:34:44] <spronk> im surprised this old beast is still going
736: [03:34:53] <spronk> the original battery even still lasts a couple of hours!
737: [03:35:20] <spronk> display is perfect
738: [03:35:22] <simon_w|work> http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2014-10-22#log_1462789
739: [03:35:39] <zippy> both my 2008's are still going. put a ssd in my wifes and bit of ram and been fine, the other is my media box
740: [03:35:39] <simon_w|work> My GPU carked at, and no replacement program for it
741: [03:35:47] <spronk> eesh :(
742: [03:35:54] <simon_w|work> Current one's GPU melted but there was a replacement program :D
743: [03:36:03] <spronk> nice
744: [03:36:19] <simon_w|work> Saved me $1500, so was rather nice of them
745: [03:36:52] <spronk> hmm
746: [03:37:02] <spronk> not sure i'd call that nice
747: [03:37:06] <spronk> did what they should do, reall y:P
748: [03:37:37] <simon_w|work> Well, was outside the 3 year period for the program and everything :p
749: [03:37:45] <spronk> o? not bad
750: [03:37:46] <simon_w|work> Had to downgrade from Mavericks though
751: [03:37:52] <spronk> eh? really?
752: [03:38:06] <simon_w|work> Yeah, AppleCare doesn't provide support for developer releases
753: [03:38:18] <simon_w|work> Even if it's blatantly a hardware problem
754: [03:38:20] <spronk> ohh right
755: [03:38:28] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
756: [03:38:59] * simon_w|work gets to spend the next 2 hours just making sure the server doesn't die
757: [03:39:10] <simon_w|work> What to slack off with...
758: [03:40:04] <spronk> heh
759: [03:40:35] <spronk> hmm, thats sad. fastest 13" mbp is slower than early 2011 quad core 15"
760: [03:40:55] <simon_w|work> http://imgur.com/avfo2Xs
761: [03:41:12] <simon_w|work> If queued gets highlighted for too long, I have to stop slacking off
762: [03:41:21] <spronk> o_O
763: [03:41:22] <irogue_> spronk: benchmark slower?
764: [03:41:23] <spronk> what is this..
765: [03:41:28] <spronk> irogue_, yeah
766: [03:41:32] <simon_w|work> HHVM's check-health
767: [03:41:35] <irogue_> spronk: damn
768: [03:41:41] <spronk> the faster ssd in the newer 13" should help a bit with some things, but still
769: [03:41:48] <spronk> its not a small difference either
770: [03:41:52] <spronk> ah
771: [03:42:14] <irogue_> I remember people comparing a newer gen of one of the macbooks to the previous gen, and they were like OMG SO MUCH SLOWER
772: [03:42:25] <irogue_> cos dumbasses who still think mhz matter
773: [03:42:32] <spronk> fastest 13" is.. 7188 on geekbench 64-bit multicore
774: [03:42:33] <spronk> vs
775: [03:42:35] <irogue_> but in benchmarks it blew the old one away
776: [03:42:43] <spronk> 8843 for the entry level 15" 2011 model
777: [03:43:07] <irogue_> damn
778: [03:43:07] <spronk> vs 6912 for fastest air
779: [03:43:17] <irogue_> wonder what price difference was at release time
780: [03:43:19] <spronk> vs 12983 for entry level current 15"
781: [03:43:27] <irogue_> seems to me like macbooks have been getting progressively cheaper
782: [03:43:34] <spronk> 2011 entry 15" would have been $2899 i think
783: [03:43:39] <irogue_> and therefore lower spec
784: [03:43:40] <spronk> maybe up to 3099
785: [03:43:51] <spronk> which is about the same price as current fastest 13" :P
786: [03:43:58] <UncleCheese> irogue_ yeah, the cost of flash storage is going down due to ramped up production
787: [03:44:20] <irogue_> spronk: tl;dr: fuck MBP
788: [03:44:25] <spronk> well
789: [03:44:25] <irogue_> seems you might as well just get an Air now
790: [03:44:27] <spronk> fuck 13" mbp
791: [03:44:39] <UncleCheese> no retina on air
792: [03:44:45] <spronk> though tbh, the 8GB/256GB 13" is better value than 8GB/256GB air
793: [03:44:49] <irogue_> oh
794: [03:44:50] <simon_w|work> 13" shouldn't have retina
795: [03:44:55] <UncleCheese> true
796: [03:45:20] <UncleCheese> i quite like my MBP retina
797: [03:45:25] * irogue_ has 4GB/256GB Air
798: [03:45:25] <spronk> $2099 for pro vs $1809 for air, pro has much faster cpu and better graphics
799: [03:45:29] <UncleCheese> it's kind of become my default coding machine
800: [03:45:38] <spronk> UncleCheese, what is it, 13 or 15?
801: [03:45:48] <simon_w|work> hmm, access logs, htop on web and db and hhvm health. What should I open to look like I'm monitoring servers...
802: [03:45:50] <irogue_> osx seems to do memory management very well, so I don't really run into issues with 4GB
803: [03:45:53] <UncleCheese> plus, my air is in two pieces after my son frisbeed it across a hotel room
804: [03:45:57] <UncleCheese> 15", spronk
805: [03:45:58] <irogue_> simon_w|work: all of them
806: [03:46:00] <spronk> i bought a second hand 13" air last year, 2011 model
807: [03:46:10] <irogue_> UncleCheese: sounds like you need to fire your son
808: [03:46:10] <simon_w|work> irogue_, that's what I've got at the moment
809: [03:46:11] <spronk> $900 for 4gb/256gb
810: [03:46:12] <UncleCheese> SS went all out cause i'll be doing a lot of video editing
811: [03:46:18] <simon_w|work> Still have lots of screens!
812: [03:46:18] <UncleCheese> irogue_ still works!
813: [03:46:27] <spronk> plan was to sell my pro to part fund it, but never got around to selling the old pro..
814: [03:46:38] <UncleCheese> and he got a free pass because he endured a 12-hour flight while sick as a dog
815: [03:46:56] <UncleCheese> so if that was the worst thing that happened, i'm ok with it :)
816: [03:47:05] <UncleCheese> but he also took a shit on the floor, so...
817: [03:47:17] <spronk> simon_w|work, you need some DSAHBOARDS
818: [03:47:23] <simon_w|work> Like father like son?
819: [03:47:24] <spronk> quick, get out NewRelic!
820: [03:47:31] <simon_w|work> spronk, ooh, right
821: [03:47:33] <spronk> *plop*
822: [03:47:50] <simon_w|work> Hmm, need to bring a chrome window down for that
823: [03:48:07] <spronk> yeha.. if you configure the faster i7 cpu for the current air, with 8GB ram and 256GB SSD, it's $45 cheaper than the 13" pro
824: [03:48:16] <spronk> the pro being quite a bit faster, and not really much bigger
825: [03:48:49] <UncleCheese> bit of a dick move that screen sizes are always in inches?
826: [03:48:55] <UncleCheese> what's that about
827: [03:50:20] <simon_w|work> spronk, would be nice if I could get it to ignore network IO between the two servers
828: [03:50:21] <spronk> haha. here's a sad stat: 12693 vs approx 7000 for 2012 vs 2014 mac minis
829: [03:50:38] <spronk> simon_w|work, configure two network adaptors
830: [03:50:41] <spronk> actually
831: [03:50:50] <spronk> i have no idea whether new relic splits that out
832: [03:50:55] <simon_w|work> spronk, fairly sure we have
833: [03:51:03] * spronk should look into this
834: [03:51:51] <spronk> oo
835: [03:51:51] <spronk> it does
836: [03:51:55] <spronk> apparently
837: [03:51:58] <spronk> https://docs.newrelic.com/docs/servers/servers-dashboards/servers-ui/network-dashboard
838: [03:52:48] <simon_w|work> spronk, hah, so we do have two interfaces. eth1 isn't used.
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840: [03:53:09] * simon_w|work slow claps for however set this up
841: [03:53:15] <spronk> :D
842: [03:53:25] <simon_w|work> *whoever
843: [03:54:02] <simon_w|work> Hmm, wonder if we've got some browser-based analytics set up
844: [03:54:08] <simon_w|work> That'd be another dashboard!
845: [03:54:18] <spronk> got rabbitmq?
846: [03:54:23] <spronk> that has a good dashboard
847: [03:54:26] <simon_w|work> Don't think so
848: [03:54:41] <spronk> if you have postfix you can surely make a dashboard from data
849: [03:54:45] <simon_w|work> Queue handling seems to all be done with resque-php
850: [03:54:57] <simon_w|work> Making sounds like effort :p
851: [03:55:04] <spronk> i would say, "just install nagios"
852: [03:55:05] <spronk> but...
853: [03:55:11] * Phlunk3 quit (Quit: Leaving)
854: [03:55:14] <spronk> ONE DOES NOT SIMPLY JUST INSTALL NAGIOS!
855: [03:55:25] <simon_w|work> Oh man, nagios is so horrible
856: [03:55:52] <simon_w|work> And our servers are on 12.04, so it'll be even worse!
857: [03:56:01] <spronk> some guy that's intimitely involved with it did a talk on it and said basically how horrible it was
858: [03:56:10] <simon_w|work> Yeah, I saw that
859: [03:56:16] <spronk> hmm
860: [03:56:17] <spronk> remember who it was?
861: [03:56:25] * simon_w|work opens Pocket
862: [03:56:38] <spronk> http://www.slideshare.net/superdupersheep/stop-using-nagios-so-it-can-die-peacefully ?
863: [03:56:57] <spronk> looks about right
864: [03:57:08] <simon_w|work> Yeah, though I had the actual talk
865: [03:58:01] <simon_w|work> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9BagdHGopg
866: [03:58:50] <spronk> yuss
867: [03:59:22] * simon_w|work adds a tload window too
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871: [04:02:12] <Mahfuz> Hi All. Can I write something like this in onBeforeWrite()
872: [04:02:14] <Mahfuz> if ($this->StockPhotoID) { if ($this->StockPhoto->getOrienation() == Image::ORIENTATION_LANDSCAPE) $this->Orientation = 'Landscape'; else $this->Orientation = 'Portrait'; }
873: [04:02:29] <Mahfuz> StockPhoto is an Image Type
874: [04:02:47] <Mahfuz> May by my syntax is wrong its not running
875: [04:03:00] <Mahfuz> giving Internal Server Error in CMS
876: [04:03:04] <Ryan-Toast> post a pastebin, man
877: [04:03:20] <simon_w|work> http://imgur.com/OTxokPk
878: [04:03:34] <simon_w|work> Monitoring servers, like a boss
879: [04:03:54] <simon_w|work> (newrelic on the left screen, irc on the right)
880: [04:04:42] <Mahfuz> Sorry for posting long code here. Here is the code - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/544878ef0a832
881: [04:05:12] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, $this->StockPhoto()->getOrientation()
882: [04:07:31] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: I saw fluoro vests are laying optical fibre on yamba drive today
883: [04:07:40] <Mahfuz> Thanks simon.
884: [04:07:57] <simon_w|work> Colin[pi], gotta get to that apartment block somehow
885: [04:08:12] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: it'll still be like 5 years until it gets here :(
886: [04:08:45] <simon_w|work> Colin[pi], it's about 10k from work to home. Think I could run an ethernet cable? :p
887: [04:08:57] <Colin[pi]> sure why not? :D
888: [04:09:14] <spronk> haha, nice simon_w|work
889: [04:10:32] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: though you've got about 100m before you need a repeating device, no? :D
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892: [04:13:47] <simon_w|work> Colin[pi], that's only 100 repeaters. Should be easy enough :p
893: [04:14:16] <novaweb> best UML tool for OS X?
894: [04:14:24] <simon_w|work> Don't do it!
895: [04:14:34] <Colin[pi]> lol
896: [04:14:42] <Colin[pi]> ah UML
897: [04:14:44] <novaweb> DOn't do UML!?
898: [04:14:50] <Colin[pi]> that stalwart of university classes everywhere
899: [04:15:05] <novaweb> How do we plan all these dataobjecters
900: [04:15:32] <Colin[pi]> I used to use something called Rational Rose
901: [04:15:39] <Colin[pi]> does that even exist still?
902: [04:15:49] <spronk> i used to use visual paradigm
903: [04:15:51] <spronk> but i dno if that's os x
904: [04:15:56] <simon_w|work> OmniGraffle
905: [04:16:03] <spronk> http://www.visual-paradigm.com/experience/mac-osx-uml/
906: [04:16:11] <spronk> alternatively
907: [04:16:13] <spronk> google docs.
908: [04:16:22] <novaweb> lol
909: [04:16:25] <Colin[pi]> MS PAINT!!1!eleven
910: [04:16:30] <spronk> alternatively
911: [04:16:36] <spronk> pen, paper, camera/scanner
912: [04:17:44] <Colin[pi]> fuck wish I had time to do UML
913: [04:17:52] <spronk> hmm
914: [04:17:54] <spronk> we do UML a bit
915: [04:17:55] <Colin[pi]> it'd be nice to plan everything properly :D
916: [04:17:56] <novaweb> omnigraffle looks like it's winning
917: [04:17:58] <ss23> lolml
918: [04:17:59] <spronk> mainly just whiteboard or pen/paper
919: [04:18:20] * novaweb shuts down
920: [04:18:22] <spronk> mainly sequence diagrams now
921: [04:18:25] <novaweb> catch yous tomorros!
922: [04:18:29] <Colin[pi]> cyas
923: [04:18:30] <spronk> class dias not so important with js
924: [04:18:32] <spronk> cya novaweb
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926: [04:19:31] <Colin[pi]> does UML even fit into most agile dev paradigms?
927: [04:19:33] <simon_w|work> Chance that the server breaks if I go to pee?
928: [04:19:37] <Colin[pi]> aint nobody got time fo dat
929: [04:19:44] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: 110%
930: [04:20:48] <irogue_> anyone who has kids and didn't see this on reddit: http://i.imgur.com/jpY9CJ0.jpg
931: [04:21:14] <ss23> REBOOT
932: [04:21:14] <Colin[pi]> no
933: [04:21:22] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: no I can't read it
934: [04:21:27] <Colin[pi]> too depressing
935: [04:21:34] <spronk> fuckkk youuuu iroggueeee____
936: [04:21:38] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: lol
937: [04:21:40] <spronk> :P
938: [04:21:53] <Colin[pi]> what I love is how when your missus is preggers
939: [04:21:55] <Colin[pi]> everyone is like
940: [04:21:59] <Colin[pi]> OMG CONGRATS
941: [04:22:03] <irogue_> sent it to coworker, watched him nodding
942: [04:22:06] <Colin[pi]> OH ITS SUCH A WONDERFUL TIME
943: [04:22:08] <simon_w|work> CONGRATS ON THE SEX
944: [04:22:08] <spronk> and you're sitting there thinking OH DEAR GOD NO?
945: [04:22:11] <Colin[pi]> and then your life changes
946: [04:22:15] <Colin[pi]> and you're like
947: [04:22:15] <Colin[pi]> WHY
948: [04:22:18] <Colin[pi]> WHY DIDNT YOU TELL MEEEEE
949: [04:22:19] <spronk> hahahahahaaa
950: [04:22:38] <irogue_> perhaps that image should be required reading before having kids
951: [04:22:51] <adrexia> Colin[pi], I suspect it's rude to say "my condolences" ;)
952: [04:22:59] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: LOL
953: [04:23:04] <Colin[pi]> yeah but I guess if they told you the truth, you'd never procreate
954: [04:23:56] <spronk> lol
955: [04:24:05] <spronk> they have their rewards
956: [04:24:20] <simon_w|work> More tax cuts!
957: [04:24:21] <irogue_> adrexia: just say "ah, guess I'll see you in 18 years then?"
958: [04:24:40] <irogue_> tho that could be taken the wrong way...
959: [04:24:42] <adrexia> hahaha
960: [04:24:46] <spronk> LOL
961: [04:26:39] <Mahfuz> Hi again. How can we put multiple value to check against in filter like this --- ->filter(array('AgeRange' => {Can we put multiple value here}....
962: [04:27:02] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, using an array of values will do an IN() check
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964: [04:27:54] <zippy> Colin[pi]: people that have more than two kids blow me away... just... why... how... !!..
965: [04:28:11] <Colin[pi]> zippy: one is difficult enough
966: [04:29:44] <simon_w|work> Yay, didn't break!
967: [04:30:27] <spronk> yeah
968: [04:30:30] <spronk> 2 seems about the right number
969: [04:30:58] <Mahfuz> simon: like this 'FirstName' => array('Sam', 'Sig'),
970: [04:31:04] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, yes
971: [04:31:21] <Mahfuz> Thanks simon
972: [04:32:01] <Colin[pi]> spronk: yeah at least with 2 they can keep each other entertained (in theory)
973: [04:32:06] <spronk> mm
974: [04:32:11] <spronk> and, not increasing the planet population.
975: [04:32:38] <Colin[pi]> my sis is mid 40's and never had kids, she has no desire
976: [04:32:55] <Colin[pi]> she also has a massive house and lots of time for herself :(
977: [04:33:00] <Colin[pi]> ;)
978: [04:34:31] <Colin[pi]> I reckon that it gets worse when you're old though
979: [04:34:36] <Colin[pi]> if you have no kids, I mean
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982: [04:35:49] <spronk> yeah..
983: [04:36:00] <Colin[pi]> like
984: [04:36:04] <Colin[pi]> my gf works in a nursing home
985: [04:36:13] <Colin[pi]> there are some of old folks with NO visitors :\
986: [04:36:15] <Colin[pi]> -of
987: [04:36:18] <spronk> mm..
988: [04:36:19] <Colin[pi]> which is a bit sad
989: [04:36:46] <simon_w|work> Colin[pi], tell the local school ;P
990: [04:37:12] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|work: yeah it's right near a school too
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996: [05:03:58] <simon_w|work> Anyone know of something that can graph IO usage over time, like what tload does for load?
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998: [05:09:57] <simon_w|work> Hmm, iotop will probably have to do
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1003: [05:18:02] <markcl> I have a login page which redirects to the profile page when a user is logged in
1004: [05:18:34] <markcl> I also have a test made for it in SapphireTest that asserts if it does redirect and shows the user
1005: [05:18:40] <markcl> profile page
1006: [05:19:02] <markcl> $response = Director::test($this->page->AbsoluteLink(), null, $this->userLoggedInSession());
1007: [05:19:28] <markcl> However, when I run it I get:
1008: [05:19:29] <markcl> Argument #2 of PHPUnit_Framework_Assert::assertContains() must be a array, iterator or string
1009: [05:19:36] <markcl> PHPUnit_Framework_Assert::assertContains(class="profile",,User Can't Access Profile Page,,1,)
1010: [05:19:55] <markcl> It seems the body returned nothing instead of redirecting to another page
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1012: [05:24:02] <simon_w|work> markcl, that's expected. You want to check the Location header on the response
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1030: [06:59:49] <ss23> Production server with ~10 sites?
1031: [06:59:55] <ss23> LOL rm -rf silverstripe-cache*
1032: [07:01:27] <Eliseth> Morning
1033: [07:03:09] <ss23> moin Eliseth
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1046: [07:54:24] <ss23> tractorcow is reviewing his PR on Github...
1047: [07:54:31] <ss23> wonder if I can nab him into reviewing mine at the same time >.>
1048: [07:54:33] <ss23> <.<
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1056: [08:00:14] <g4b0_> all
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1058: [08:01:16] <g4b0_> how can I hide the Archive Tab in Pages?
1059: [08:02:05] <zippy> $fields->removeByName('Archive'); probably
1060: [08:02:23] <irogue> i'm not aware of an Archive tab - History perhaps?
1061: [08:05:46] <g4b0_> maybe yes
1062: [08:06:09] <g4b0_> let's switch language to English :)
1063: [08:07:19] <g4b0_> History is correct!
1064: [08:07:39] <g4b0_> In Italian it's translated in Archive
1065: [08:08:25] <irogue> ah, ok :)
1066: [08:08:44] <g4b0_> $fields->removeByName('History'); does not work :(
1067: [08:09:12] <g4b0_> mabye because it's a Tab?
1068: [08:09:18] <irogue> yeah, I'm not sure about the top-level tabs - trying to look into it
1069: [08:10:04] <ss23> irogue: We realised today that uh
1070: [08:10:09] <ss23> irogue: We have no seats/desks :S
1071: [08:10:17] <ss23> We already packed up all our extra desks for the party ;_;
1072: [08:10:17] <irogue> ss23: lawl
1073: [08:10:29] <ss23> Board room is fully booked for entire day too
1074: [08:10:32] <ss23> No idea what's going to happen
1075: [08:10:44] <irogue> there's only 2 of us going to be there, myself and oly
1076: [08:10:50] <ss23> Hamish too?
1077: [08:10:56] <ss23> I thought all of Auckland was coming?
1078: [08:10:56] <irogue> oh, guess so yeah
1079: [08:11:16] <ss23> 2 people we could fit, since you can just shuffle between people who're in meetings I guess
1080: [08:11:19] <irogue> david and frank will be with bigo, aaro will be with ninjas
1081: [08:11:34] <ss23> Oh, they're working offsite?
1082: [08:11:38] <irogue> yep
1083: [08:11:45] <ss23> ah cool beans, that'll work then
1084: [08:12:37] <irogue> oh, janine i guess, but odds are she'll be out with clients and partners all day
1085: [08:12:42] <ss23> mm
1086: [08:12:49] <ss23> and yelling "PHTEVEN" loudly ;_;
1087: [08:12:51] <irogue> and damo and julian aren't coming
1088: [08:12:54] <irogue> ss23: yep
1089: [08:12:59] <ss23> Why not? :(
1090: [08:13:21] <irogue> dunno, other things on I guess
1091: [08:13:28] <ss23> Hum :/
1092: [08:13:31] <ss23> Not good enough IMO
1093: [08:13:32] * ss23 glares
1094: [08:13:55] <ss23> I'm finally stalling on features/fixes I've been needing to get done with high priority
1095: [08:14:01] <irogue> aaro's been complaining that there'll be shitty developer music all night
1096: [08:14:07] <ss23> hahah
1097: [08:14:12] <ss23> When does he do anything other than complain, jesus
1098: [08:14:22] <ss23> I don't even know what music he likes
1099: [08:14:24] <irogue> "all that drum and bass crap and all that"
1100: [08:14:36] <ss23> Would he rather we did Dubstep?!
1101: [08:14:41] <irogue> nope
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1103: [08:14:53] <irogue> finns are all about the metal iirc
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1105: [08:15:09] <ss23> Depends on the Finn, but the ones I know all listen to at least some rock
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1107: [08:16:12] <irogue> but yes
1108: [08:16:18] <irogue> many complain :P
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1110: [08:16:36] <Pyloltraink> [09:16] <irogue> many complain
1111: [08:16:37] <Pyloltraink> do go on
1112: [08:16:46] <Pyloltraink> or do I go back?
1113: [08:16:48] <Pyloltraink> hmm...
1114: [08:16:51] <irogue> Pyloltraink: talking about a coworker, nothing interesting
1115: [08:16:53] <ss23> We're just complaining about you, Pyloltraink!
1116: [08:17:13] * Pyloltraink om nom nom's scrambled egg and tomato bun instead of caring
1117: [08:17:43] <Pyloltraink> ss23: does it look like a Swedish furniture shop?
1118: [08:17:45] <irogue> ss23: ever tried to hide/remove a top level tab? I can't see why it wouldn't work but apparently it's not working for g4b0_ trying to get rid of History
1119: [08:18:07] <ss23> irogue: Not that I can thik of, sorry
1120: [08:18:40] <g4b0_> in cms/_config.php I fuond this:
1121: [08:18:40] <irogue> oh
1122: [08:18:44] <g4b0_> CMSMenu::remove_menu_item('CMSPageHistoryController');
1123: [08:19:12] <g4b0_> but I don't think it's actually doing anything :)
1124: [08:19:22] <Pyloltraink> trace it and see!
1125: [08:19:40] <irogue> g4b0_: perhaps try Root.History ?
1126: [08:20:01] <Pyloltraink> rm -rf cms
1127: [08:20:21] <Pyloltraink> no more history tab!
1128: [08:20:25] <irogue> lol
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1130: [08:20:38] <Robke> hey
1131: [08:20:39] <irogue> CMSMenu::remove_menu_item('CMSPageHistoryController');
1132: [08:20:47] <irogue> that does look like it should be useful
1133: [08:20:47] <g4b0_> just tried rm -rf cms
1134: [08:20:53] <Pyloltraink> omg who would have known that scrambled eggs in a bap would be so f'n good!?
1135: [08:20:55] <g4b0_> on the production server
1136: [08:21:03] <Pyloltraink> lol g4b0_ xD
1137: [08:21:06] <ss23> Hmm... only 10:20pm...
1138: [08:21:11] <ss23> TIME TO INVENT A NEW KIND OF INSTANCE FOR AWS
1139: [08:21:12] <ss23> :D
1140: [08:21:16] <Pyloltraink> ss23: 9:20
1141: [08:21:16] <g4b0_> I' running home :D
1142: [08:21:21] <irogue> ss23: lrn2time
1143: [08:21:27] <Pyloltraink> ikr, fark
1144: [08:21:30] <irogue> you had me worried tho
1145: [08:21:32] <ss23> ...
1146: [08:21:33] <ss23> time is hard
1147: [08:21:35] <ss23> whatever, point is
1148: [08:21:37] <irogue> since taxi's picking me up at 5:30am
1149: [08:21:39] <ss23> I have time to do more fun stuff
1150: [08:21:39] <ss23> :D
1151: [08:21:41] <ss23> irogue: Time to pack
1152: [08:21:46] <irogue> shhh
1153: [08:21:48] <irogue> procrastinating
1154: [08:21:49] <Pyloltraink> Unfortunately for me it means that the clocks to back this weekend and I'll have more trouble doing that in future :<
1155: [08:21:49] <irogue> packing is hard
1156: [08:22:05] <Pyloltraink> I can never remember which way to +-1hr
1157: [08:22:32] <Pyloltraink> forward I guess.
1158: [08:22:39] <Pyloltraink> yeh, in summer it's back.
1159: [08:22:43] <Pyloltraink> ...
1160: [08:22:44] <Pyloltraink> yeh.
1161: [08:22:45] <irogue> Pyloltraink: i only have one clock that doesn't auto change
1162: [08:22:49] <irogue> and that's my car
1163: [08:22:55] <Pyloltraink> irogue: My phone doesn't autochange
1164: [08:22:59] <irogue> wtf
1165: [08:23:03] <irogue> is your phone from the 90s
1166: [08:23:11] <Pyloltraink> but I meant that time between here and NZ goes Time now? +1hr
1167: [08:23:25] <irogue> Pyloltraink: ah, i see
1168: [08:23:26] <Pyloltraink> suddenly nz time.
1169: [08:23:32] <irogue> need world clock widget
1170: [08:23:36] <Pyloltraink> but in summer it's time now? -1hr
1171: [08:23:47] <Pyloltraink> irogue: windhu... oh macos lol
1172: [08:23:57] <Pyloltraink> windhuhs does multiple clocks
1173: [08:23:59] <wmk> Pyloltraink, scrambled eggs again?
1174: [08:24:17] <Pyloltraink> wmk: nup, just had fried egg (and bacon) yesterday!
1175: [08:24:27] <wmk> ah
1176: [08:24:28] <Pyloltraink> tomorrow is the big day.
1177: [08:24:35] <wmk> ?
1178: [08:24:40] <Pyloltraink> Bacon, egg, mushroom, tomato, hash browns.
1179: [08:24:42] <Pyloltraink> In a bun.
1180: [08:24:50] <Pyloltraink> brown sauce.
1181: [08:24:58] <irogue> http://www.police.govt.nz/news/updates/34912-0 <-- well, someone had a bad night
1182: [08:25:23] <Pyloltraink> all the Poms are going 'dafuq? That's like a whole breakfast in a sandwich!' and I'm going... "I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE FUCK'N POINT"
1183: [08:25:24] <ss23> lol
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1185: [08:25:41] <ss23> irogue: On one hand, I'm like "fucking retards", but on the other... totally could see my mates doing it
1186: [08:25:44] <wmk> well, the storm over here didn't only destroy my providers internet, it also took away the roof of the building my office is in
1187: [08:25:47] <wmk> :(
1188: [08:25:48] <Pyloltraink> I don't want just a slice of bacon.
1189: [08:25:55] <ss23> haha wmk
1190: [08:25:56] <ss23> That sucks
1191: [08:25:57] <Pyloltraink> wmk: D:
1192: [08:25:58] <g4b0_> irogue, Pyloltraink & ss23: no way to remove the History tab:
1193: [08:25:59] <g4b0_> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/blob/3.1/templates/Includes/CMSMain_Content.ss#L20
1194: [08:26:07] <Pyloltraink> oh stink g4b0_
1195: [08:26:07] <irogue> ss23: I don't know your current mates, but could totally imagine kaden thomas etc doing it back in the day
1196: [08:26:12] <Pyloltraink> just hide it with css g4b0_ !
1197: [08:26:13] <Pyloltraink> :D
1198: [08:26:13] <spronk2> BACON?
1199: [08:26:15] <spronk2> I’ll take some bacon
1200: [08:26:16] <g4b0_> It's hardcoded into the template!
1201: [08:26:23] <irogue> g4b0_: wow
1202: [08:26:25] <spronk2> also, wmk, whereabouts?
1203: [08:26:33] <irogue> g4b0_: time to raise an issue!
1204: [08:26:34] <wmk> upper austria
1205: [08:26:38] <Pyloltraink> g4b0_: leftandmain: superdupermorecsssrequirements: myhistorytabhider.css
1206: [08:26:39] <spronk2> dang
1207: [08:26:42] <g4b0_> yep
1208: [08:26:44] <g4b0_> issue
1209: [08:26:51] <g4b0_> then css hiding :)
1210: [08:26:58] <Pyloltraink> indeed, fair call :)
1211: [08:27:18] <irogue> bet it's something that was customisable in 2.4 and accidentally didn't make it over to 3.0
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1213: [08:27:31] <irogue> "oh we'll just hardcode this for now" -> forget to ever fix it
1214: [08:27:52] <irogue> I blame adrexia
1215: [08:27:57] <g4b0_> ahahah
1216: [08:28:02] <spronk2> hm
1217: [08:28:07] <spronk2> i remember being able to hide it
1218: [08:28:09] <g4b0_> like every hardcoded thing
1219: [08:28:18] <simon_w> uh oh, simon_w|work left
1220: [08:28:27] <Pyloltraink> ss23: irogue: haha dicks in car with toy. On the other hand, article reports report as 'displaying'... could have just been in the window or something.
1221: [08:28:32] <irogue> simon_w: you got fired
1222: [08:28:34] <spronk2> haha
1223: [08:28:42] <Pyloltraink> simon_w: it went to the cloud!
1224: [08:28:45] <Pyloltraink> simon_w|air: :P
1225: [08:28:51] <wmk> http://www.tips.at/thumb.php?w=800&h=600&src=REGIONAL/499027/news/300127/1413966275.1934.jpghttp://www.tips.at/thumb.php?w=800&h=600&src=REGIONAL/499027/news/300127/1413966275.1934.jpg spronk
1226: [08:28:51] <irogue> "waving a hand gun from a vehicle"
1227: [08:28:54] * Shrike_Finland quit (Quit: Leaving.)
1228: [08:28:55] <simon_w> Dammit, but I just got my super set up!
1229: [08:28:59] <wmk> ARGH... they are using thumb.php
1230: [08:29:01] <irogue> prob teenagers thinking they were cool
1231: [08:29:09] <Pyloltraink> irogue: ah.
1232: [08:29:12] <Pyloltraink> must have read wrong.
1233: [08:29:17] <wmk> nevermind, my office is in the other half of the building...
1234: [08:29:18] <Pyloltraink> irogue: likely. knobjockies.
1235: [08:29:20] <ss23> Nothing more cool than getting a helicopter to follow you! :D
1236: [08:29:25] <ss23> "COME ON CAHSE ME :D"
1237: [08:29:29] <irogue> and AoS storming your house!
1238: [08:29:39] <Pyloltraink> It's like rl cs
1239: [08:29:41] <Pyloltraink> :s
1240: [08:29:42] <Pyloltraink> :P
1241: [08:29:43] <ss23> ^^
1242: [08:29:53] <Pyloltraink> DAT PUN
1243: [08:29:54] <Pyloltraink> SO META
1244: [08:30:06] <irogue> i've had the heli fly over my house (surprisingly, in takapuna not souf auckland) seemingly looking for someone
1245: [08:30:31] <Pyloltraink> You know the thing I don't get?
1246: [08:30:33] <irogue> sitting in my living room, dark night > HOLY SHIT IT'S DAYTIME > oh, dark again
1247: [08:30:35] <Pyloltraink> HELICOPTER SNIPERS
1248: [08:30:42] <Pyloltraink> the fuck do movies think they're a real thing?
1249: [08:30:50] <irogue> the spotlight on that thing is batshit
1250: [08:30:57] <Pyloltraink> guano?
1251: [08:31:01] <irogue> yup
1252: [08:31:11] <Pyloltraink> the other day I learnt...
1253: [08:31:18] <Pyloltraink> guano applies to seabirds also.
1254: [08:31:46] <spronk2> sheeeiiittt wmk
1255: [08:31:56] <Pyloltraink> annie, you're ok...
1256: [08:32:08] <ss23> Oh
1257: [08:32:10] <ss23> I was wondering
1258: [08:32:12] <ss23> Good to know she's okay
1259: [08:32:29] <Pyloltraink> irogue: oh, and pinnipeds!
1260: [08:32:39] <Pyloltraink> seals make guano too apparently.
1261: [08:32:52] <Pyloltraink> I guess it must be soemthing to do with salt intake... or being awesome like a bat.
1262: [08:34:45] <Pyloltraink> PHTEVEN
1263: [08:34:49] <Pyloltraink> what is this ss23 ?
1264: [08:34:53] <spronk2> lolol
1265: [08:34:57] <ss23> google it?
1266: [08:35:04] <Pyloltraink> maybe not?
1267: [08:36:28] * Pyloltraink gives in
1268: [08:36:31] <Pyloltraink> all I found was this: https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/71/44/f5/7144f58e1f8bbb1bc4e4d791a901c50f.jpg
1269: [08:37:13] <ss23> lol
1270: [08:37:17] <ss23> that's pretty much it, Pyloltraink
1271: [08:37:59] * Pyloltraink looked up the know your meme page
1272: [08:38:04] <Pyloltraink> yep, extreme shit.
1273: [08:38:15] * Pyloltraink feels dumber for knowing this
1274: [08:38:55] <spronk2> fucking phteven
1275: [08:39:01] <Pyloltraink> so it's company hack day tomorrow?
1276: [08:39:07] <ss23> Pyloltraink: Nope
1277: [08:39:16] <ss23> party though, so some people are coming to wgnt
1278: [08:39:28] <Pyloltraink> Party?
1279: [08:39:36] * simon_w|work has joined #silverstripe
1280: [08:40:00] <Pyloltraink> www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjwofYhUJEM
1281: [08:40:08] <irogue> PARTY PARTY
1282: [08:41:40] * Pyloltraink goes off to rewrite all his entwine properly
1283: [08:41:48] <spronk2> oO_
1284: [08:41:56] <spronk2> you know how to write entwine properly?
1285: [08:41:59] <spronk2> what are you, hamish!?
1286: [08:42:30] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: nope, apparently not because I wrote it like it may as well have just been normal jquery bind logic.
1287: [08:42:38] <spronk2> oh?
1288: [08:42:58] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onlclick(do all this shit to an unrelated thing)
1289: [08:43:00] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onlclick(do all this shit to an unrelated thing)
1290: [08:43:00] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onlclick(do all this shit to an unrelated thing)
1291: [08:43:01] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onlclick(do all this shit to an unrelated thing)
1292: [08:43:01] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onlclick(do all this shit to an unrelated thing)
1293: [08:43:05] <Pyloltraink> OH WHOOPS
1294: [08:43:07] <irogue> SPAM
1295: [08:43:16] <ss23> banned
1296: [08:43:25] <spronk2> and …… how should you write it?
1297: [08:43:29] <Pyloltraink> I'll bamm yourface in a minute
1298: [08:43:31] * spronk2 tries to avoid entwine
1299: [08:43:34] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: like normal code
1300: [08:43:46] <irogue> now I need to ensure I poop at the party
1301: [08:43:48] <Pyloltraink> unrelatedthing.dothatstuff()
1302: [08:43:51] <spronk2> oh
1303: [08:43:51] <spronk2> right
1304: [08:43:56] <Pyloltraink> thatthing.onclick(unrelatedthing.dostuff)
1305: [08:44:03] <spronk2> yeah ok
1306: [08:44:06] <spronk2> i see what you mean
1307: [08:44:11] * spronk2 thought you meant something else
1308: [08:44:13] <irogue> even though I don't want to cos the toilets at ss wgtn are as bad as the ones at ss akl
1309: [08:44:39] <irogue> in different ways, but both bad
1310: [08:44:56] <Pyloltraink> office toilets... often are :(
1311: [08:45:03] * wmk quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
1312: [08:45:06] <ss23> bah, screw it. hard to know how to structure this stuff :/
1313: [08:45:10] <Pyloltraink> I've been lucky the last couple of places they've not been _too_ bad
1314: [08:45:32] <Pyloltraink> so my train this morning right
1315: [08:45:35] <Pyloltraink> had to slow down
1316: [08:45:44] <irogue> the ones at our office have broken seats
1317: [08:45:53] <Pyloltraink> because the train in front was THAT late
1318: [08:46:04] <irogue> you'll be sitting there and lean slightly to one side and the seat will somehow slip out from under you and you end up sitting on the rim
1319: [08:46:05] <irogue> ew ew ew
1320: [08:46:08] <Pyloltraink> irogue: D: gawd.
1321: [08:46:12] <spronk2> o_O
1322: [08:46:22] <Pyloltraink> like the one where they pinch you when you go to get up because sitting on it oppened up the break?
1323: [08:46:23] <spronk2> thats an osh violation
1324: [08:46:25] <spronk2> no kidding
1325: [08:46:33] * g4b0_ quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
1326: [08:46:39] <spronk2> gotta get that shit fixed right uo
1327: [08:46:40] <spronk2> up
1328: [08:46:53] <irogue> spronk2: and the building belongs to and is managed by a law firm
1329: [08:47:12] <irogue> bet the toilets on their floors are nice
1330: [08:47:29] <Pyloltraink> irogue: just go up there and use them.
1331: [08:47:40] * Pyloltraink takes a bit on them being 'up'
1332: [08:47:51] <Pyloltraink> takes a bit of a gamble**
1333: [08:47:52] <irogue> Pyloltraink: need card to access most of their floors
1334: [08:48:06] <Pyloltraink> irogue: idk, just fuck'n batman it then.
1335: [08:48:07] * simon_w|air quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1336: [08:48:17] <Pyloltraink> go to the roof and shit on their windows
1337: [08:48:23] <irogue> could try the floors with consulates, they won't be card restricted
1338: [08:48:41] <irogue> but not sure the security implications of trying to sneak into another country's pooper
1339: [08:48:49] <Pyloltraink> lol
1340: [08:49:17] <Pyloltraink> consular services != embassy
1341: [08:49:33] <irogue> I know
1342: [08:49:40] <Pyloltraink> well
1343: [08:49:42] <Pyloltraink> !==
1344: [08:49:45] <irogue> the services are just done by the law firm
1345: [08:50:11] <Pyloltraink> yeah just go up and leave a bloody great post-it note on their card access door
1346: [08:50:24] <Pyloltraink> "YOUR TOILETS ARE APALLING, FIX IT"
1347: [08:50:39] <irogue> Mauritius, Mexico, Thailand
1348: [08:51:01] <UncleCheese> what does everyone think of korokoro?
1349: [08:51:09] <Pyloltraink> what does the commonwealth even do these days?
1350: [08:51:11] <Pyloltraink> nothing right?
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1352: [08:51:18] <irogue> UncleCheese: i'm assuming that's a suburb
1353: [08:51:22] <UncleCheese> yeah
1354: [08:51:22] <irogue> Pyloltraink: games! :P
1355: [08:51:31] <UncleCheese> https://www.google.co.nz/maps?q=55+london+road&es_sm=91&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=NMBIVL_DJYPAmwWknICoBA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ
1356: [08:51:44] <Pyloltraink> irogue: yeah, but I mean... is canada technically still _in_ the commonwealth?
1357: [08:51:49] <irogue> yep
1358: [08:51:52] <UncleCheese> yes
1359: [08:51:55] <spronk2> irogue: just tell management they’re substandard and need to be fixed
1360: [08:52:01] <irogue> theres surprising ones in there too, Pyloltraink
1361: [08:52:04] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: http://www.yelp.co.uk/biz/koro-koro-jersey-city
1362: [08:52:04] <Pyloltraink> ?
1363: [08:52:13] <UncleCheese> nope
1364: [08:52:18] <irogue> Pyloltraink: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations#Current_members
1365: [08:52:18] <spronk2> building would be leased yeh?
1366: [08:52:41] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: lower hutt?
1367: [08:52:50] <irogue> spronk2: presumably we lease our area of the floor we're on, yeah. from the law firm upstairs.
1368: [08:53:15] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: not very far into the hutt.
1369: [08:53:18] <Pyloltraink> could be nice.
1370: [08:53:37] <Pyloltraink> looks like it has quite a park setting
1371: [08:53:57] <UncleCheese> i'm so upset right now
1372: [08:54:07] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
1373: [08:54:15] <Pyloltraink> irogue: malta? really?
1374: [08:54:20] <Pyloltraink> heh
1375: [08:54:27] <spronk2> so
1376: [08:54:32] <spronk2> should be fixed
1377: [08:54:33] <spronk2> :P
1378: [08:55:07] * UncleCheese has joined #silverstripe
1379: [08:55:39] <Pyloltraink> "Her Britannic Majesty's protection" LOLWUT
1380: [08:56:04] <UncleCheese> seriously
1381: [08:56:10] <UncleCheese> why do we live in johnsonville
1382: [08:56:39] <UncleCheese> for $100 LESS than what we're paying to live in Burglar Alley, we could be here: http://www.trademe.co.nz/property/residential-property-to-rent/auction-794826297.htm
1383: [08:56:43] <irogue> UncleCheese: I suspect the answer is that you forgot to ask anyone about jville before moving there :P
1384: [08:56:50] <UncleCheese> irogue that is true
1385: [08:57:00] <irogue> i'm not even a wellingtonian and i'd have warned you about jville
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1387: [08:57:25] <irogue> UncleCheese: oh snap
1388: [08:57:27] <irogue> that's pretty nice
1389: [08:57:46] <UncleCheese> for $430 in Welly? fuck yeah
1390: [08:58:04] <irogue> area doesn't look unsavoury at all on street view either
1391: [08:58:13] <UncleCheese> i'm so mad
1392: [08:58:24] <UncleCheese> i want to call our landlord and tell her to get fucked
1393: [08:58:32] <irogue> UncleCheese: stuck in a fixed term?
1394: [08:58:36] <UncleCheese> yeah
1395: [08:58:38] <UncleCheese> 18 feb
1396: [08:58:41] <UncleCheese> countring the days
1397: [08:58:42] <Zauberfisch> attention!
1398: [08:58:48] <Zauberfisch> I have just noticed a config bug in the VM
1399: [08:58:55] <irogue> UncleCheese: damn
1400: [08:59:00] <simon_w> Oh, it's in the Hutt
1401: [08:59:01] <Zauberfisch> mailcatcher might not be catching mails
1402: [08:59:03] <simon_w> That explains it
1403: [08:59:06] <UncleCheese> simon_w no likey?
1404: [08:59:09] <UncleCheese> it's got VIEWS
1405: [08:59:09] <Zauberfisch> will update shortly
1406: [08:59:15] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese:
1407: [08:59:26] <UncleCheese> and i bet there's even some insulation
1408: [08:59:32] <irogue> UncleCheese: got an alarm at least?
1409: [08:59:45] <simon_w> UncleCheese, lower income area
1410: [08:59:53] <simon_w> And all that goes with that
1411: [08:59:53] <UncleCheese> irogue camera
1412: [09:00:00] <UncleCheese> simon_w how is it low income with views like that?!
1413: [09:00:08] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: the hutt has a reputation, but overall isn't a terrible place.
1414: [09:00:11] <simon_w> UncleCheese, the Hutt in general
1415: [09:00:18] <UncleCheese> ok, simon_w jville versus the hutt
1416: [09:00:19] <irogue> simon_w: looks like that's a better part of the hutt
1417: [09:00:22] <zippy> UncleCheese: and a fire
1418: [09:00:23] <irogue> and can't be worse than jville
1419: [09:00:25] <Pyloltraink> It's kinda like the NZ to Australians.
1420: [09:00:29] <Pyloltraink> or something
1421: [09:00:36] <simon_w> irogue, yeah, but being in the Hutt is why it's less expensive
1422: [09:00:42] <Pyloltraink> looked down on, but not bad at all.
1423: [09:00:56] <irogue> simon_w: yep
1424: [09:00:56] <Pyloltraink> not _that_ bad at least.
1425: [09:01:02] <irogue> like being in a nice part of south auckland
1426: [09:01:03] <UncleCheese> 1k walk to the train, 12 minute ride to WGT station
1427: [09:01:09] <Pyloltraink> like simon_w said, lower income. lower socioeconomic
1428: [09:01:26] <simon_w> UncleCheese, it's across SH2 from the main part of the Hutt, so is definitely the wealthy part
1429: [09:01:26] <irogue> (yes, there are nice parts of south auckland)
1430: [09:01:52] <UncleCheese> keep in mind, our landlord advertised this place for $495, gave it to us on a handshake, then called us the next day and said due to overwhelming response, she was raising the rent
1431: [09:02:00] <UncleCheese> by $30
1432: [09:02:03] <Pyloltraink> lol, rude
1433: [09:02:15] <irogue> I have family friends who live on the hills next to jville. super rich. their area is all super rich houses
1434: [09:02:15] <simon_w> UncleCheese, the main problem you'll have at that place is distance to shopping
1435: [09:02:19] <irogue> but you have to go through jville to get there
1436: [09:02:19] <UncleCheese> do you see why i want to tell her to get fucked now?
1437: [09:02:27] <UncleCheese> yeah, i'd have to be come a pak n' saver, simon_w
1438: [09:02:39] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: oh gawd, you don't want to do that.
1439: [09:02:39] <simon_w> UncleCheese, oh, there's nothing wrong with that :p
1440: [09:02:41] <UncleCheese> no.. it's on the 2, irogue
1441: [09:02:44] <Pyloltraink> yes there is!
1442: [09:02:49] <Pyloltraink> pak'n save!
1443: [09:02:51] <Pyloltraink> D:
1444: [09:03:01] <simon_w> Pyloltraink, Wellington ones tend to be fairly decent
1445: [09:03:01] <UncleCheese> the push n' shove
1446: [09:03:12] <Pyloltraink> simon_w: the shops aren't bad... it's the people that go to them
1447: [09:03:14] <Pyloltraink> !
1448: [09:03:22] <irogue> lol
1449: [09:03:31] <simon_w> Heh, sound just like my grandfather :p
1450: [09:03:48] <UncleCheese> sig would be my neighbour.. that would be fun
1451: [09:03:56] <Pyloltraink> like... if there was a train that went through the middle, it'd be the kind of place you'd never go at night, and zipped up your pockets to walk through in the day
1452: [09:03:57] <irogue> bit like my local new world. nice fancy new world, but with security tags on anything that could fit in a pocket
1453: [09:03:58] <Pyloltraink> etc
1454: [09:04:38] <Pyloltraink> Maybe just the one in central CHC is particularly bad...
1455: [09:05:02] <irogue> from what i've heard, parts of chc make south auckland seem pleasant
1456: [09:05:07] <UncleCheese> i'm so annoyed
1457: [09:05:14] <UncleCheese> at least now i know where to look
1458: [09:05:19] <Pyloltraink> irogue: nah. It's fine if you shave your head.
1459: [09:05:45] <simon_w> UncleCheese, in the Hutt, you either want on the hills or Seaview/Petone
1460: [09:05:59] <UncleCheese> petone is a huge tsunami zone
1461: [09:06:02] <Pyloltraink> irogue: lol, jokes. but seriously though... I know the area your'e talking about. And get this: IT'S THE FUCKING BEACHFRONT
1462: [09:06:11] <spronk2> new brighton?
1463: [09:06:14] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: lol, tsunami
1464: [09:06:15] <UncleCheese> plus, it's sand, so it's got earthquake issues
1465: [09:06:19] <Pyloltraink> goodluck with that
1466: [09:06:22] <UncleCheese> can't do petone
1467: [09:06:26] <UncleCheese> too dangerous
1468: [09:06:32] <UncleCheese> won't do lyall bay, either
1469: [09:06:34] <spronk2> eh
1470: [09:06:36] <spronk2> earthquakes fine
1471: [09:06:39] <Pyloltraink> yeah I mean, tsunami's hit all the time
1472: [09:06:40] <UncleCheese> not on sand
1473: [09:07:01] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: yeah, earthquakes and reclaimed land, sure I can understand that though
1474: [09:07:03] <zippy> your in welly... major fault line and what not..
1475: [09:07:09] <Pyloltraink> you're
1476: [09:07:12] <Pyloltraink> gosh zippy
1477: [09:07:12] <simon_w> fault lines
1478: [09:07:30] <simon_w> Including that one that SH2 follows
1479: [09:07:55] <UncleCheese> you want to be on rock
1480: [09:08:04] <UncleCheese> korokoro would be much safer
1481: [09:08:12] <UncleCheese> no tsunami, solid ground
1482: [09:08:31] <irogue> to be fair, I don't think there's anywhere particularly earthquake safe in wellington :P
1483: [09:08:32] <UncleCheese> petone would be under 5 metres of water in the blink of an eye
1484: [09:08:39] <Pyloltraink> dude... you keep saying tsunami like it means something.
1485: [09:09:12] <UncleCheese> ask the japanese what it means to them
1486: [09:09:15] <simon_w> Only time a tsunami will be a problem will be a >7 earthquake in the harbour
1487: [09:09:19] <UncleCheese> or the Sri Lankans
1488: [09:09:25] <Pyloltraink> yeah, I would worry about it, IF YOU WERE BUYING A HOUSE IN JAPAN
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1490: [09:09:41] <Pyloltraink> simon_w: nah, further out than that
1491: [09:09:43] <simon_w> UncleCheese, Wellington is extremely well protected from tsunamis
1492: [09:09:55] <simon_w> Pyloltraink, then there's a bunch of hills in the way
1493: [09:09:58] <UncleCheese> then why do they draw tsunami lines on all the roads?
1494: [09:10:00] <Pyloltraink> it's a massive harbour on teh point of an island for starters, hills everywhere
1495: [09:10:08] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: that's what you think those are?
1496: [09:10:16] <spronk2> UncleCheese: sand is fine
1497: [09:10:21] <spronk2> just lieuqfaction
1498: [09:10:22] <irogue> auckland's much riskier for tsunami
1499: [09:10:24] <spronk2> liquefaction
1500: [09:10:31] <irogue> Pyloltraink: they do have those in welly
1501: [09:10:35] <spronk2> so make sure your house is highish off the ground, and you’ll be fine on sand
1502: [09:10:36] <spronk2> oh, and wooden
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1504: [09:10:46] <UncleCheese> i right
1505: [09:10:52] <irogue> just cos they're crazily cautious
1506: [09:10:56] <Pyloltraink> irogue: lol, serious? He's not just talking about "this is where the reclaimed land starts" line?
1507: [09:10:58] <UncleCheese> in general, wellington is really earthquake safe
1508: [09:11:04] <UncleCheese> has some of the highest standards in the world
1509: [09:11:05] <simon_w> Though Wellington tends to rise, so the water level isn't likely to end up about the group
1510: [09:11:08] <spronk2> pretty much noone died in chch in houses
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1512: [09:11:10] <simon_w> *ground
1513: [09:11:14] <spronk2> not even that many injuries
1514: [09:11:16] <Pyloltraink> irogue: it makes me lol that people think they can predict the amount water will rise exactly.
1515: [09:11:27] <irogue> Pyloltraink: http://www.getprepared.org.nz/tsunami-blue-lines
1516: [09:11:47] <simon_w> *above the ground
1517: [09:12:01] <irogue> it was meant to be a demonstration of worst case scenario, unfortunately they just turned into a "terrify everyone" thing
1518: [09:12:08] <spronk2> heh
1519: [09:12:14] <Pyloltraink> irogue: haha, DUH
1520: [09:12:14] <spronk2> worst case scenario
1521: [09:12:15] <irogue> "to show where the largest tsunami might reach."
1522: [09:12:19] <irogue> *largest*
1523: [09:12:20] <spronk2> japan got that one a bit wrong
1524: [09:12:30] <simon_w> irogue, "that starts in the Strait"
1525: [09:12:46] <irogue> spronk2: tbh, knowing japan, they probably knew worst case scenario was much worse
1526: [09:12:50] <spronk2> haha
1527: [09:12:51] <Pyloltraink> you can't start a tsunami in the strait
1528: [09:12:52] <spronk2> yeah
1529: [09:12:54] <Pyloltraink> like, just lol
1530: [09:12:55] <irogue> they're masters of understating things to try to hide panic
1531: [09:12:59] <spronk2> but noone was allowed to say anything
1532: [09:13:01] <Pyloltraink> it's like all the morons in christchurch
1533: [09:13:03] <irogue> *avoid panic
1534: [09:13:05] <Pyloltraink> OMG A TSUNAMI IS COMING
1535: [09:13:15] <Pyloltraink> it was a fucking inland earthquake!!!
1536: [09:13:17] <spronk2> reminds me of my mother lol
1537: [09:13:28] <spronk2> OH MY GOD DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE A TSUNAMI!?
1538: [09:13:35] <spronk2> FROM THIS MAG 4.5 EARTHQUAKE 20KM INLAND
1539: [09:13:46] <irogue> in wellington, earthquakes are the only real logical fear. in auckland it's volcanos.
1540: [09:13:50] <irogue> in hamilton it's STDs
1541: [09:13:50] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: yeup.
1542: [09:13:53] <spronk2> LOL
1543: [09:13:58] <Pyloltraink> irogue: hahaaha, so true :<
1544: [09:14:02] <spronk2> wellington is the capital
1545: [09:14:03] <spronk2> so
1546: [09:14:07] <spronk2> bombings are a threat
1547: [09:14:08] <UncleCheese> so you guys are saying... don't choose a house based on its perceived tsunami exposure
1548: [09:14:08] <spronk2> :p
1549: [09:14:09] <simon_w> In Canterbury, it's neonazis
1550: [09:14:18] <irogue> UncleCheese: yep
1551: [09:14:26] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: we're saying 'wtf tsunami, who even thinks about that?'
1552: [09:14:48] <UncleCheese> which is more important to you.. an extra bedroom, or being able to sleep at night knowing you wont' wake up in the Marlborough Sounds?
1553: [09:14:54] <irogue> extra bedroom
1554: [09:14:58] <spronk2> yep
1555: [09:14:58] <Pyloltraink> extra bedroom
1556: [09:14:59] <spronk2> extra bedroom
1557: [09:15:04] <UncleCheese> jeus
1558: [09:15:08] <UncleCheese> fucking kiwis, man
1559: [09:15:10] <irogue> tho im not sure what i'd do with an extra bedroom
1560: [09:15:12] <spronk2> nahh
1561: [09:15:12] <Pyloltraink> lol, you're so American UncleCheese !
1562: [09:15:20] * spronk2 lived through the chch earthquakes
1563: [09:15:20] <irogue> i already have one too many, and i have a 2 bedroom house
1564: [09:15:25] <spronk2> COME AT ME BRO is my new attitude
1565: [09:15:34] * Pyloltraink lived through CHC EQs, and has a brain.
1566: [09:15:35] <zippy> spronk2: same, and I couldn't live in wellington..
1567: [09:15:36] <UncleCheese> no, if i were truly American, I wouldn't be afriad of tsunamis.. I'd just shoot them
1568: [09:15:44] <Pyloltraink> hahahahahaha UncleCheese !!
1569: [09:15:50] <irogue> UncleCheese: or go full New Orleans
1570: [09:15:51] <simon_w> spronk2, that first one was annoying. Only earthquake to wake me up.
1571: [09:15:52] <spronk2> yeah, i don’t think i’d want to live in wellington tbh
1572: [09:16:00] <irogue> THE GOVERNMENT IS MAKING UP THE FLOOD RISK TO GET MY OUTTA MY HOUSE
1573: [09:16:02] <UncleCheese> get out my assault rifle... these colours don't run, mother fucker
1574: [09:16:04] <Pyloltraink> You'd be like that emperor... Xerxes I think i twas
1575: [09:16:15] <Pyloltraink> fuck'n throw spears at the sea to stop the tide or something
1576: [09:16:27] <Pyloltraink> irogue: that actually came to my mind
1577: [09:16:33] <simon_w> Pyloltraink, that King was just showing his stupid his advisors were
1578: [09:16:39] <irogue> bro just go full maui, catch the sun
1579: [09:16:50] <Pyloltraink> it's a cleaver ploy by town planners and estate agents to artificially adjust housing prices in low demand areas
1580: [09:16:51] <Pyloltraink> etc
1581: [09:16:58] <irogue> http://www.penguin.co.nz/products/9780143505181/how-maui-slowed-sun
1582: [09:17:27] <UncleCheese> alright, fine
1583: [09:17:37] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: what I meant was, stop stressing about the likelyhood of very rare events.
1584: [09:17:42] <irogue> UncleCheese: there's higher risk for tsunami in auckland, cos we're rather exposed to shit coming at us from the big wide ocean
1585: [09:17:48] <kinglozzer> Which genius decided we need more than one type of hyphen?! Fucking up my import script :(
1586: [09:17:57] <spronk2> http://i.imgur.com/FiL7e98.jpg
1587: [09:18:02] <Pyloltraink> kinglozzer: typophiles
1588: [09:18:06] <irogue> we go about as far as having tsunami sirens, but don't go full blue lines
1589: [09:18:07] <UncleCheese> easy to say.. you're no the one who will be waking up floating around the Cook Strait clinging to a couch cushion full of beer farts
1590: [09:18:09] <spronk2> there’s only one hyphen, you heathen
1591: [09:18:17] <irogue> cos it has no benefit
1592: [09:18:26] <irogue> terrifies people needlessly and won't actually save lives
1593: [09:18:27] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: earthquakes are a very real, reasonably frequent event (and even then it's about one every 20+ years)
1594: [09:18:47] <UncleCheese> welly gets a big one every 1,000 years
1595: [09:18:49] <Pyloltraink> be aware, be ready for the more likely, but don't let it inhibit your decisions unnecessarilly
1596: [09:18:54] <spronk2> UncleCheese: it’s pretty unlikely you’d actually be screwed in a tsunami
1597: [09:18:56] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: yeah that's what they say.
1598: [09:18:56] <spronk2> just your belongings
1599: [09:19:01] <Pyloltraink> maybe
1600: [09:19:02] <simon_w> UncleCheese, 100
1601: [09:19:10] <spronk2> unless you’re an idiot and didn’t look for higher ground
1602: [09:19:14] <UncleCheese> the earthquake guy at te papa said 1,000
1603: [09:19:21] <Pyloltraink> hehe
1604: [09:19:22] <irogue> depends on your definition of big i guess
1605: [09:19:23] <UncleCheese> the last big one was like 750 years ago
1606: [09:19:27] <zippy> fuck em
1607: [09:19:29] <zippy> *me
1608: [09:19:32] <simon_w> We've been overdue for about 50 years now
1609: [09:19:39] <spronk2> yep
1610: [09:19:41] <simon_w> (For a 7+)
1611: [09:19:47] <UncleCheese> ohhh
1612: [09:19:52] <Pyloltraink> ^
1613: [09:20:00] <spronk2> move to chch
1614: [09:20:01] <spronk2> we’ve had ours
1615: [09:20:01] <Pyloltraink> the Alpine Fault is overdue to slip too
1616: [09:20:05] <spronk2> actually no we’re expecting ^^
1617: [09:20:06] <UncleCheese> yeah, i was thinking that, spronk2
1618: [09:20:12] <simon_w> Rather than an 8+, which I'm guess is what the 1,000 year one is
1619: [09:20:18] <spronk2> alpine fault probably won’t do too much damage to chch
1620: [09:20:28] <Pyloltraink> everyone got all excited when the sept. quake hit, thought it was the fault... but then it wasn't and they're all 'aww fuck.#
1621: [09:20:28] <spronk2> will probably knock the fuck out of the country’s power supply though
1622: [09:21:03] <Pyloltraink> simon_w: largest quake ever on record is 8.something iirc
1623: [09:21:06] <Pyloltraink> 8.9 perhaps
1624: [09:21:07] <spronk2> tbh, the place to not be in an earthquake is an office building.
1625: [09:21:17] <UncleCheese> is that right?
1626: [09:21:18] <Pyloltraink> ^
1627: [09:21:20] <Pyloltraink> yes
1628: [09:21:24] <Pyloltraink> they crumble.
1629: [09:21:28] <UncleCheese> hmm
1630: [09:21:28] <Pyloltraink> LIKE PANCAKES
1631: [09:21:29] <spronk2> well
1632: [09:21:32] <UncleCheese> not if they're built right
1633: [09:21:35] <spronk2> anything made out of bricks only
1634: [09:21:36] <spronk2> and
1635: [09:21:42] <simon_w> UncleCheese, the building SilverStripe in will pancake
1636: [09:21:43] <UncleCheese> they sway
1637: [09:21:44] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: that's the kind of mentality that resulted in the titanic.
1638: [09:21:54] <spronk2> anything.. yeah
1639: [09:21:55] <Pyloltraink> they don't sway.
1640: [09:21:55] <UncleCheese> simon_w good thing we're moving then
1641: [09:22:00] <spronk2> ooh
1642: [09:22:05] <Pyloltraink> not when the ground is going up and down, not side to side.
1643: [09:22:07] <spronk2> is SS building on the dangerous list?
1644: [09:22:14] <UncleCheese> nope
1645: [09:22:15] <spronk2> i know DNA’s is
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1647: [09:22:21] <irogue> the SS building is terrifying
1648: [09:22:22] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: pretty sure al wlg is on the dangerous list
1649: [09:22:24] <UncleCheese> checked with HR today about that, spronk2 :D
1650: [09:22:25] <irogue> (wgtn)
1651: [09:22:27] <spronk2> heh
1652: [09:22:33] <spronk2> in saying that though
1653: [09:22:37] <UncleCheese> Ha.. i was at DNA last week and that's the first thing I thought!
1654: [09:22:38] <spronk2> CTV building in CHCH wasn’t on any list
1655: [09:22:40] <spronk2> and… many people died.
1656: [09:22:41] <simon_w> spronk2, isn't stickered, but is poorly engineered
1657: [09:22:42] <UncleCheese> i coudlnt' wait to get out of there
1658: [09:22:44] <spronk2> UncleCheese: all that exposed brick
1659: [09:22:50] <spronk2> looks pretty, but
1660: [09:22:54] <UncleCheese> yeah, i was like, what the fuck, man
1661: [09:22:57] <simon_w> spronk2, similar style to the other CHCH building that pancaked
1662: [09:23:07] <spronk2> simon_w: ah. about 5 stories?
1663: [09:23:15] <Pyloltraink> pyne gauld
1664: [09:23:16] <simon_w> spronk2, yeah
1665: [09:23:17] <Pyloltraink> ?
1666: [09:23:20] <spronk2> least safe buildings are those 5-7 story ones
1667: [09:23:24] <simon_w> Sounds about right
1668: [09:23:43] <spronk2> something to do with the building’s harmonic period
1669: [09:23:52] <spronk2> err
1670: [09:23:55] <spronk2> you know
1671: [09:23:58] <spronk2> fundamental period
1672: [09:24:04] <UncleCheese> christ, guys
1673: [09:24:08] <zippy> harmonic frequency?
1674: [09:24:08] <UncleCheese> don't fuck with my head
1675: [09:24:11] <Pyloltraink> www.youtube.com/watch?v=w28ZREQe3_Q
1676: [09:24:18] <spronk2> 5-7 stories is closest match to the period of a large earthquake’s P/S waves
1677: [09:24:19] <simon_w> "PGC House"
1678: [09:24:28] <spronk2> mm, pine gould corp
1679: [09:24:28] <Pyloltraink> simon_w: yeh, Pyne Gauld
1680: [09:24:29] <kinglozzer> Oh, thanks Excel, "extended" hyphens are replaced with "Ð" when saving as CSV :|
1681: [09:24:47] <Pyloltraink> kinglozzer: because UTF-NO bro.
1682: [09:24:50] <spronk2> also, UncleCheese, if you work in a TALL building
1683: [09:24:54] <spronk2> whatever you do don’t go to the stairs.
1684: [09:25:03] <simon_w> Pyloltraink, Symes de Silva is very similar to that from an engineering perspective
1685: [09:25:10] <spronk2> not until the shaking has well and truly stopped
1686: [09:25:19] <irogue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2GWkW_WgkU
1687: [09:25:20] <irogue> TSUNAMI
1688: [09:25:23] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: because they were the only thing left standing in both pgc and ctv
1689: [09:25:30] <UncleCheese> i would probably take the stairs
1690: [09:25:38] <UncleCheese> because i figure the lifts won't work
1691: [09:25:41] <spronk2> see
1692: [09:25:42] <simon_w> spronk2, stairwell is fine, actual stairs, not so much
1693: [09:25:48] <spronk2> nah
1694: [09:25:50] <spronk2> stairs = collapse
1695: [09:25:58] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: simon_w, some building the stairs themselves collapsed.
1696: [09:26:04] <spronk2> see: hotel grand chancellor, forsyth barr building
1697: [09:26:08] <Pyloltraink> I know this, family friend was in one.
1698: [09:26:14] <simon_w> Yeah, the stairs are designed to collapse, but the stairwell isn't
1699: [09:26:15] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: same architect.
1700: [09:26:20] <spronk2> mm
1701: [09:26:35] <simon_w> So if it has decent landings and stuff
1702: [09:26:43] <UncleCheese> hmm
1703: [09:26:46] <spronk2> apparently PWC tower was close to stairwell collapse
1704: [09:26:53] <UncleCheese> well
1705: [09:26:55] <simon_w> But then, if the building's going to come down, you probably can't mve
1706: [09:27:03] <Pyloltraink> oh, and the basements flooded with turds
1707: [09:27:05] <UncleCheese> what are the chances of an earthquake happening while i'm at work
1708: [09:27:09] <spronk2> high
1709: [09:27:10] <Pyloltraink> ie, carparks
1710: [09:27:24] <spronk2> in a properly designed building your best bet is to get under a solid piece of furniture
1711: [09:27:28] <simon_w> Heh, there's a couple of carpark buildings in Wellington still shut
1712: [09:27:29] <zippy> UncleCheese: well... how many hrs of the day do you spend there... 35%?
1713: [09:27:32] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: about the same as the percentage of the day you spend there.
1714: [09:27:44] <UncleCheese> minus 2/7
1715: [09:27:55] <spronk2> and if the building is still standing after the main shake, stay put unless you can get out very quickly
1716: [09:27:55] <UncleCheese> oh 3/7 actually.. i don't work fridays
1717: [09:27:56] <Pyloltraink> UncleCheese: I DUNNO MAN, IS THE MOON FULL WHILE YOU'RE AT WORK?
1718: [09:28:07] <spronk2> lol Pyloltrainkenring
1719: [09:28:22] <Pyloltraink> lol yeh right?
1720: [09:28:26] <Pyloltraink> hurrderp
1721: [09:28:29] <ss23> 22:27:06 < UncleCheese> what are the chances of an earthquake happening while i'm at work
1722: [09:28:34] <ss23> they've happened a *lot* at work dude
1723: [09:28:36] <spronk2> I PREDICT DEM EARTHQUAKES
1724: [09:28:45] <ss23> people freak the fuck out though, it's lulz
1725: [09:28:45] <spronk2> EVERY SECOND DAY
1726: [09:28:46] <UncleCheese> ss23 no, that's just John walking to the loo
1727: [09:28:49] <ss23> lol
1728: [09:29:01] <ss23> I accidently made some stupid comment about earthquakes being fun during the last quake
1729: [09:29:05] <ss23> people *raged*
1730: [09:29:06] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: just like that octopus that predicted the world cup
1731: [09:29:10] <spronk2> PAUL!
1732: [09:29:12] <irogue> UncleCheese: shouldnt have laughed at that
1733: [09:29:13] <irogue> but i did
1734: [09:29:34] <Pyloltraink> ss23: lol yeah, earthquakes make people really fuck'n angry.
1735: [09:29:36] <spronk2> ooh, ss23
1736: [09:29:39] <spronk2> don’t do that
1737: [09:29:39] <Pyloltraink> not really sure why, but they do.
1738: [09:29:42] <spronk2> people get really sensitive
1739: [09:29:45] <Pyloltraink> ^
1740: [09:29:47] <ss23> 22:25:20 < irogue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2GWkW_WgkU
1741: [09:29:47] <spronk2> like
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1743: [09:29:52] <spronk2> normal sensible people
1744: [09:29:52] <ss23> this guy talks so slow I closed the window
1745: [09:29:55] <spronk2> even the ones that don’t seem crazy
1746: [09:29:57] <spronk2> go mad.
1747: [09:29:59] <ss23> YEAH I KNOW THEY GET SENSITIVE NOW
1748: [09:29:59] <irogue> ss23: lol yeah
1749: [09:30:02] <ss23> I didn't know that *before*
1750: [09:30:03] <ss23> >.>
1751: [09:30:21] <Pyloltraink> they get proper mad, like, imma pull out in front of this traffic because fuck waiting for a space
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1753: [09:30:24] <simon_w> Which is hilarious, since a far chunk of people tend to cope with trauma through humour
1754: [09:30:34] <Pyloltraink> WE'RE DRIVING AT 60KM/H AND YOU'RE 200M IN FRONT OF US WTF
1755: [09:30:35] <ss23> Aint no life manual that's like "Do not mention earthquakes being fun. Storms? Yeah you can say those are fun. Earthquakes? NOT ALLOWED"
1756: [09:30:48] <spronk2> but yeah… if you look at chch quakes, we’re probably as good as wellington in terms of earthquake standards for buildings, maybe a little worse, and the majority of people who died or got seriously injured were in one of two big buildings, or hit by falling bricks
1757: [09:30:57] <Pyloltraink> and then when the cars come to a hault, THE ONE THAT PULLED OUT GETS MAD AND SHOUTS OUT THE WINDOW
1758: [09:31:08] <simon_w> spronk2, Chch was level 2, Wgtn level 1
1759: [09:31:10] <Pyloltraink> some of the shit you'll see after a major event :<
1760: [09:31:13] <simon_w> Chch is now level 1
1761: [09:31:20] <spronk2> mm
1762: [09:31:31] <UncleCheese> spronk2 they say that was because chch was well-prepared for one quake, but for the second one, the buildings were already crippled
1763: [09:31:40] <spronk2> yeah
1764: [09:31:40] <Pyloltraink> road rage from the person so clearly in the wrong you know they know better
1765: [09:31:43] <irogue> http://youtu.be/4jKqlrIGtRg?t=36s
1766: [09:31:51] <spronk2> the first one was pretty massive
1767: [09:31:58] <simon_w> spronk2, the main problem is a fair chunk of Chch was built before eq standards
1768: [09:32:02] <spronk2> ya
1769: [09:32:13] <spronk2> ^^ like, massive enough for it to be difficult to comprehend that the earth can move that much
1770: [09:32:29] <irogue> "Auckland is the only large city in the world built directly on top of a volcanic field"
1771: [09:32:34] <Pyloltraink> and people thought chc wouldn't get one... but then you look in history books the cathedral had been repaired on MULTIPLE occasions BECAUSE OF EARTHQUAKES
1772: [09:32:36] <irogue> fuck yeah, such a kiwi move
1773: [09:32:38] <irogue> FUCK YOU VOLCANOES
1774: [09:32:42] <spronk2> she’ll be right
1775: [09:32:47] <spronk2> we’ll just tie them up with some wire
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1777: [09:32:50] <spronk2> bit of duct tape
1778: [09:32:56] <spronk2> hey presto, no volcano!
1779: [09:32:58] <Colin[pi]> spronk2: #nocontext
1780: [09:33:00] <Pyloltraink> boom, bob's your uncle!
1781: [09:33:12] <spronk2> fuck, lets plant a tree on one and call it a day
1782: [09:33:27] <Pyloltraink> trees fill in craters quite well I hear
1783: [09:33:31] <Pyloltraink> plug it up with roots
1784: [09:33:34] <spronk2> mm
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1786: [09:33:44] <spronk2> i prefer canterbury’s volcanos
1787: [09:33:46] <spronk2> much larger
1788: [09:33:49] <spronk2> much more dead.
1789: [09:33:50] <Pyloltraink> lol
1790: [09:34:04] <Pyloltraink> the pot hills
1791: [09:34:05] <zippy> I have a many_many. In the CMS I want to list out all the options so they can be ticked on and off, like the CheckboxSetField. But I can't use that because I want to put some headings in between the items. Here is some code; http://sspaste.com/paste/show/5448c59c47af8
1792: [09:34:19] <spronk2> Pyloltraink: did you ever journey up the hills after the quakes?
1793: [09:34:22] <zippy> the problem with that code is all the items are ticked and when I save it doens't actually save the selection
1794: [09:34:27] <spronk2> like, around sumner/lyttelton?
1795: [09:34:30] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: yeh
1796: [09:34:32] <Pyloltraink> I went up there
1797: [09:34:35] <spronk2> fuuuuuuuckk that shit
1798: [09:34:36] <Pyloltraink> fell off a mountain bike
1799: [09:34:43] <Pyloltraink> first ever concussion and confirmed broken bone
1800: [09:34:48] <spronk2> ouch
1801: [09:35:00] <spronk2> some of those boulders that fractured were HUGE
1802: [09:35:07] <Pyloltraink> 4 months later, knocked out twice in a night and more concussion :<
1803: [09:35:17] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: yeah but that's because they came down the hilll
1804: [09:35:20] <spronk2> bro, you’ve only got 2 concussions left before you’re a vegetable
1805: [09:35:26] <Pyloltraink> castle hill
1806: [09:35:34] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: nah, I'm like that fella from banshee
1807: [09:35:44] <irogue> heh
1808: [09:35:45] <Pyloltraink> I almost got up and fought back after they left
1809: [09:35:47] <spronk2> van?
1810: [09:35:49] <irogue> watching that auckland volcano video
1811: [09:36:01] <Pyloltraink> then I thought fuck it, and may or may not have gone to sleep
1812: [09:36:02] <spronk2> FUCK IT GUYS
1813: [09:36:03] <Pyloltraink> not sure
1814: [09:36:04] <spronk2> LETS JUST MOVE TO PALMY
1815: [09:36:09] <UncleCheese> zippy that can be tricky
1816: [09:36:13] <irogue> they're showing "an evacuation"
1817: [09:36:17] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: lol
1818: [09:36:17] <irogue> obv just normal peak traffic
1819: [09:36:21] <spronk2> lol
1820: [09:36:26] <zippy> UncleCheese: seems like it. It looks how I want it - but just wont save!
1821: [09:36:26] <spronk2> an evacuation
1822: [09:36:27] <spronk2> from auckland
1823: [09:36:33] <spronk2> what a laugh
1824: [09:36:34] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: but then you've got other natural hazards to worry about
1825: [09:36:39] <spronk2> what
1826: [09:36:40] <irogue> spronk2: ikr
1827: [09:36:43] <spronk2> crazy people?
1828: [09:36:45] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: like... highbury
1829: [09:36:48] <spronk2> palmy has flooding..
1830: [09:36:59] <irogue> Hamilton's the safest place in NZ from natural disasters
1831: [09:37:15] <spronk2> that’s because
1832: [09:37:18] <spronk2> it IS a natural disaster
1833: [09:37:19] <irogue> hence both transpower and chorus have their primary core infrastructure there
1834: [09:37:19] <Pyloltraink> irogue: yeah, if you're not counting dengy fever from living in a boggy swamp
1835: [09:37:28] <Pyloltraink> dark damp boggy swamp.
1836: [09:37:55] <Pyloltraink> filled with mooloo supporters
1837: [09:37:58] <spronk2> ooh
1838: [09:37:58] <irogue> lol
1839: [09:37:59] <Pyloltraink> gawd D:
1840: [09:38:01] <spronk2> don’t forget auckland’s tornados
1841: [09:38:07] <Pyloltraink> lol, yeah!
1842: [09:38:10] <spronk2> live in albany
1843: [09:38:12] <irogue> they can be pretty cray
1844: [09:38:14] <spronk2> get your placemakers ripped off
1845: [09:38:17] <irogue> yep
1846: [09:38:17] <Pyloltraink> #TaurangaTheDream
1847: [09:38:30] <UncleCheese> zippy honestly it's a good reason to create something like GroupedCheckboxSetField
1848: [09:38:35] <irogue> coworker at snappernet lived right next to the shopping centre where that placemakers was, spronk2
1849: [09:38:36] <Pyloltraink> #EastCoastLife
1850: [09:38:38] * spronk2 is watching some tohoku tsunami vids
1851: [09:38:44] <UncleCheese> with a similar api to GroupedDropdownField
1852: [09:38:44] <Pyloltraink> #WestCoastSurf
1853: [09:38:48] <Pyloltraink> #DieHappy
1854: [09:38:53] <Pyloltraink> #whatever
1855: [09:38:54] <spronk2> #EastCoastLawnmowers
1856: [09:39:01] <irogue> spronk2: the massive sign for the mall was in his front yard when he got home
1857: [09:39:05] <spronk2> haha
1858: [09:39:06] <spronk2> awesome
1859: [09:39:07] <spronk2> free sign
1860: [09:39:08] <irogue> sticking out of the lawn straight up
1861: [09:39:13] <irogue> about 1m into the ground
1862: [09:39:17] <Pyloltraink> there was a tsunami in chc once
1863: [09:39:18] <Pyloltraink> guys
1864: [09:39:20] <Pyloltraink> just so you know
1865: [09:39:22] <spronk2> … really?
1866: [09:39:28] <spronk2> you mean the one from the japan earthquake?
1867: [09:39:31] <spronk2> that was like 10cm high?
1868: [09:39:34] <zippy> hehe
1869: [09:39:36] <Pyloltraink> the tide came in a bit fast and rose about a metre more than it usually would.
1870: [09:39:43] <Pyloltraink> THATS IT
1871: [09:39:49] <spronk2> ITS OK THOUGH
1872: [09:39:54] <spronk2> becuase we have a warning system that gets tested twice yearly
1873: [09:39:56] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: nah Tonga I think
1874: [09:39:59] <Pyloltraink> or Samoa
1875: [09:40:01] <spronk2> with
1876: [09:40:05] <spronk2> HIGH TECH SIRENS
1877: [09:40:09] <Pyloltraink> or one of those islands that keeps getting nailed :<
1878: [09:40:19] <zippy> UncleCheese: hmm
1879: [09:40:32] <Pyloltraink> that's where you don't buy a house if you are worried about that kinda thing UncleCheese :>
1880: [09:40:38] <Pyloltraink> on a pacific island.
1881: [09:40:44] <spronk2> meanwhile in Japan, can take over entire tv and radio media networks to announce a quake that’s just happened for 30-60sec brace warning
1882: [09:40:45] <Pyloltraink> like say... Hawaii
1883: [09:40:48] <zippy> UncleCheese: my checkbox looks indentical to one created by CheckboxSetField - yet it wont save
1884: [09:40:49] <simon_w> Chatham Islands is where you go for tsunamis
1885: [09:41:16] <spronk2> also
1886: [09:41:22] <Pyloltraink> yeh, out where there's actual water for one to build up in
1887: [09:41:28] <spronk2> i find it interesting that in chch the arts centre got mega fucked, while the museum and christs’s college were more or less ok
1888: [09:41:28] <irogue> spronk2: they have all that in place here too
1889: [09:41:34] <spronk2> really?
1890: [09:41:36] <irogue> insta takeover of radio and tv
1891: [09:41:39] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: haha, yeh.
1892: [09:41:48] <Pyloltraink> the arts centre itself is fine spronk2
1893: [09:41:52] <Pyloltraink> it's just that it SANK
1894: [09:41:54] <Pyloltraink> in one corner
1895: [09:41:56] <spronk2> heh
1896: [09:41:58] <irogue> spronk2: they just don't test it cos it's hard to do in such a way that people know for sure it's only a test
1897: [09:42:01] <spronk2> werps
1898: [09:42:08] <spronk2> “THIS IS A TEST"
1899: [09:42:12] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: I used to chat to one of the curators on my way to work some days
1900: [09:42:15] <Pyloltraink> friendly guy
1901: [09:42:26] <Pyloltraink> used to always say hi as he passed, sometimes we'd chat
1902: [09:42:29] <irogue> spronk2: people r dumb
1903: [09:42:32] <spronk2> was his name…
1904: [09:42:33] <spronk2> Warren
1905: [09:42:46] <spronk2> irogue: can confirm. am dumb
1906: [09:42:49] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: I don't think so...
1907: [09:42:50] <irogue> remember that a fuckton of people freaked out when War of the Worlds was on bbc radio
1908: [09:43:01] <irogue> thought it was legit news
1909: [09:43:03] <Pyloltraink> spronk2: guy about our height, circular framed glasses
1910: [09:43:09] <Pyloltraink> grey hair
1911: [09:43:21] <spronk2> i c
1912: [09:43:30] <Pyloltraink> Said he'd spend a bit of time at the other site
1913: [09:43:35] * spronk2 does not know this person
1914: [09:43:40] <Pyloltraink> before I left (didn't see him so often)
1915: [09:43:56] <Pyloltraink> irogue: hahahaa
1916: [09:44:00] <zippy> god dan CheckBox only handles 0 or 1 for values...
1917: [09:44:10] <Pyloltraink> zippy: well yeah, duh.
1918: [09:44:15] <Pyloltraink> it's either on or it's not
1919: [09:44:25] <Pyloltraink> BINARY POINT FIVE DUDE
1920: [09:44:35] <UncleCheese> zippy outputing the html similar to checkboxset field is only half the problem, though
1921: [09:44:42] * Pyloltraink realises that no one in this channel will get that reference
1922: [09:44:42] <UncleCheese> saving state is a whole other thing
1923: [09:45:01] <UncleCheese> god damn it.. now i'm all terrified of earthquakes again
1924: [09:45:09] <Pyloltraink> zippy: get a persistent app, use web workers to talk to it
1925: [09:45:13] <Pyloltraink> NODE GOSH
1926: [09:45:37] <Pyloltraink> wholey fuck
1927: [09:45:39] <zippy> UncleCheese: mmmmm seems like it
1928: [09:45:48] <zippy> UncleCheese: I might just jack the onBeforeWrite..
1929: [09:45:53] * Pyloltraink has sudden huge urge to do fuck'n nothing and play quake
1930: [09:46:00] <UncleCheese> that's not going to help, zippy
1931: [09:46:13] <UncleCheese> well, it might help with writing to the record
1932: [09:46:18] * Pyloltraink is now known as Pytraink
1933: [09:46:21] <Colin[pi]> Pyloltraink: fire up UT99
1934: [09:46:28] <Pytraink> Colin[pi]: nup, QL
1935: [09:46:36] <UncleCheese> but in terms of reflecting the state, the form field has to be smart enough to choose which checkboxes are checked
1936: [09:46:37] <Pytraink> but... at work :<
1937: [09:46:39] <spronk2> UncleCheese: seriously, it’s all goo
1938: [09:46:40] <spronk2> d
1939: [09:46:46] <irogue> jesus christ
1940: [09:46:49] <spronk2> if you’re really concerned just wear a fashionable hard hat
1941: [09:46:50] <UncleCheese> not if i'm on the fifth floor!
1942: [09:46:50] * irgbit quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1943: [09:46:51] <irogue> those are some massive fucking fireworks
1944: [09:46:51] <Pytraink> not that I'm really doing any atm :<
1945: [09:46:57] <spronk2> how many floors does your building have?
1946: [09:47:10] <UncleCheese> 5 going on 6
1947: [09:47:12] <spronk2> oh
1948: [09:47:13] <spronk2> you’re fine
1949: [09:47:17] <spronk2> you’ll just trample everyone below ou
1950: [09:47:18] <spronk2> y
1951: [09:47:21] <UncleCheese> no, that's in the danger zone
1952: [09:47:23] * irgbit has joined #silverstripe
1953: [09:47:26] <irogue> spronk2: http://www.getthru.govt.nz/themes/getthru/templates/vwluResources/Siren/$file/Siren.wav
1954: [09:47:28] <kinglozzer> Ping g4b0_
1955: [09:47:29] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: nah, coz pancakes.
1956: [09:47:36] <spronk2> god i hate that noise
1957: [09:47:36] <UncleCheese> oh ok so you just don't want to be on the first floor
1958: [09:47:42] <spronk2> well
1959: [09:47:44] <Pytraink> you drop a floor at a time, you're on top, you're fine.
1960: [09:47:46] <spronk2> you’re better off on the top :P
1961: [09:47:51] <spronk2> i mean, you might get hurt a bit
1962: [09:47:53] <Pytraink> spronk2: BADUM PSH
1963: [09:47:57] <irogue> if you ever hear that weirdass noise on tv/radio, you're so fucked
1964: [09:47:57] <spronk2> :D
1965: [09:48:01] <UncleCheese> except for the whole... falling 6 metres thing
1966: [09:48:04] * irgbit quit (Remote host closed the connection)
1967: [09:48:09] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: you get used to it.
1968: [09:48:21] <spronk2> irogue: MIX ALL THE SIRENS
1969: [09:48:30] <Pytraink> Life or death situation, let the adrenaline become you.
1970: [09:48:38] <irogue> thats the "civil defence are taking over now, listen the fuck up"
1971: [09:48:39] <kinglozzer> Oh lord so many emails now, why didn't you warn me simon_w? :P
1972: [09:48:41] <spronk2> UncleCheese: it would be a slow fall though
1973: [09:48:50] <spronk2> because the steel will bend
1974: [09:48:54] <UncleCheese> you reckon?
1975: [09:48:56] <Pytraink> kinglozzer: lol wtf did you do?
1976: [09:49:04] <irogue> Pytraink: became corez
1977: [09:49:11] <Pytraink> irogue: eh?
1978: [09:49:16] <Pytraink> oh
1979: [09:49:17] <Pytraink> wows
1980: [09:49:21] <simon_w> kinglozzer, don't worry. Zauberfisch didn't warn me when moving the tickets from trac to github. Multiple times.
1981: [09:49:22] <Pytraink> 'grats
1982: [09:49:35] <spronk2> haha
1983: [09:49:40] <simon_w> That broke my mbox file
1984: [09:49:46] <spronk2> GOOD JOB KINGLOZZER
1985: [09:49:57] <spronk2> now go and fix all the problems.
1986: [09:49:59] <simon_w> Had to go in with bloody nano to manually clear it out
1987: [09:50:00] <irogue> hey, I called 2/3 of those people!
1988: [09:50:07] <Pytraink> link?
1989: [09:50:09] <kinglozzer> Lol simon_w, presumably you got one for each comment as well as each issue? :P
1990: [09:50:13] <kinglozzer> Ty spronk2, Pytraink
1991: [09:50:19] <simon_w> kinglozzer, yup
1992: [09:50:31] <kinglozzer> Pytraink: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/silverstripe-dev/h9OewuzE_aM
1993: [09:50:32] <Pytraink> loz, i'm looking at you when I want shit merged. k?
1994: [09:50:53] <Pytraink> dan and will work together
1995: [09:50:56] <simon_w> Haha, WELCOME TO MY OLD WORLD :D
1996: [09:51:10] <Pytraink> and are nearly never in chan :<
1997: [09:51:38] <kinglozzer> Pytraink: Not sure if they do any more, will was asking about freelance work so think summinks going on there
1998: [09:51:45] <simon_w> kinglozzer, seriously though, if you three can help make SS Ltd stop sucking at open source, it'll be great
1999: [09:52:17] <Pytraink> kinglozzer: hmm, interesting
2000: [09:52:21] <zippy> setByIDList - handy
2001: [09:52:26] <Pytraink> will is PigeonFriend iirc
2002: [09:52:33] <Pytraink> right kinglozzer ?
2003: [09:52:37] <kinglozzer> simon_w: We'll do our best ;)
2004: [09:52:46] <kinglozzer> Pytraink: I always though that was Dan
2005: [09:52:52] <kinglozzer> Will's just willmorgan usually
2006: [09:53:10] <UncleCheese> man, i wish our burglar were this dumb: http://cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2012/7/11/260957/michael-hagger-1200.jpg
2007: [09:53:24] * simon_w still has to go rant out Hamish on ss-dev
2008: [09:53:34] <spronk2> UncleCheese: has your bururgulurar reappeared?
2009: [09:53:41] <irogue> UncleCheese: did you see the one in chch?
2010: [09:53:50] * UncleCheese gets some popcorn in anticipation of the simon_w hamish showdown
2011: [09:53:51] <Pytraink> kinglozzer: oh, is it Dan that's pigeonfriend?
2012: [09:54:04] <Pytraink> someoen at betterbrief is, I thought it was one of those two
2013: [09:54:14] <kinglozzer> Pytraink: I *think* so, it could be someone else at betterbrief though
2014: [09:54:23] <UncleCheese> spronk2 he hit the neighbour's house last night
2015: [09:54:24] <UncleCheese> didn't get in
2016: [09:54:34] <spronk2> hmm
2017: [09:54:36] <spronk2> you’re a big guy, right?
2018: [09:54:38] <UncleCheese> i bet this shit never happens in korakora
2019: [09:54:40] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: activity tonight UC?
2020: [09:54:44] <UncleCheese> not yet
2021: [09:54:54] <Colin[pi]> is there a usual time they come?
2022: [09:55:11] <irogue> UncleCheese: https://i.imgur.com/brzmYfE.jpg
2023: [09:55:13] <UncleCheese> just found out that my wife has been sleeping with a knife in her pocket
2024: [09:55:19] <spronk2> o_O
2025: [09:55:23] <spronk2> that sounds like a really bad idea
2026: [09:55:33] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi] it's been between 1-3AM
2027: [09:55:33] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: holy shit that can't be safe
2028: [09:55:36] <Pytraink> lol I like how spheresilver appears on the list multiple times: https://www.openhub.net/p/silverstripe/contributors?page=1&sort=commits_12_mo
2029: [09:55:55] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: pockets?
2030: [09:55:56] <spronk2> i’m looking into your future, UncleCheese, and seeing castration by knife in pocket of sleeping wife.
2031: [09:56:00] <Pytraink> while sleeping?
2032: [09:56:07] <irogue> UncleCheese: plz go hide on the roof with weapon and await them
2033: [09:56:17] <UncleCheese> i wish
2034: [09:56:20] <spronk2> alternatively
2035: [09:56:25] <spronk2> do you have a laser?
2036: [09:56:28] <UncleCheese> i'm not protected by the second amendment
2037: [09:56:30] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: haven't the cops been waiting there for them?
2038: [09:56:35] <UncleCheese> yes
2039: [09:56:38] <Colin[pi]> and?
2040: [09:56:42] <Pytraink> and micmania1, lol
2041: [09:56:44] <Colin[pi]> gave them the slip?
2042: [09:56:46] <UncleCheese> but we were really upset with the neighbour because they didn't call
2043: [09:56:57] <UncleCheese> and ew need to always call if we hear anything
2044: [09:57:03] <UncleCheese> so that they keep patroling
2045: [09:57:20] <UncleCheese> they said, oh, it could have been a cat walking on the roof
2046: [09:57:29] <UncleCheese> right, because the one thing i know about cats it's they're really fucking loud
2047: [09:57:31] <Colin[pi]> yeah but can't they for one night just park an unmarked car close to your house or something at that time? catch the bastards in the act
2048: [09:57:32] <irogue> UncleCheese: yep, neighbours calling is the most valuable thing
2049: [09:57:59] <Pytraink> Colin[pi]: nah, because who knows if they'll come?
2050: [09:58:02] <UncleCheese> if they come in here, i'll get them on film even if they destroy the camera
2051: [09:58:17] <UncleCheese> so, last time we got robbed, back in the USA
2052: [09:58:19] <UncleCheese> they did that
2053: [09:58:20] <Colin[pi]> Pytraink: UC has been reporting them showing up like most nights, right?
2054: [09:58:24] <UncleCheese> and it was FUCKING AWESOME
2055: [09:58:30] <UncleCheese> they actually baited them
2056: [09:58:44] <irogue> could just be a hamilton police thing, but I've heard a few instances where someone kept coming back to the same place
2057: [09:58:46] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: eh?
2058: [09:58:48] <UncleCheese> i watched the unmarked car from a car park.. they had binoculars and everything
2059: [09:58:52] <UncleCheese> it was so fucking cool
2060: [09:58:57] <Colin[pi]> these cunts need to be stopped, seriously
2061: [09:59:00] <irogue> in this case it was an ex lover with a restraining order against them
2062: [09:59:00] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: in the states?
2063: [09:59:09] <Colin[pi]> if your wife is sleeping with a knife, that's just fucked
2064: [09:59:15] <UncleCheese> yeah.. it was like right when my wife and i started dating
2065: [09:59:16] <Pytraink> becuase in england that'd probably be classed as entrapment or something fucking retarded.
2066: [09:59:17] <irogue> kept coming during the night and smashing this woman's windows, spraypainting "WHORE" on her house ,etc
2067: [09:59:22] <UncleCheese> and she got robbed whilst we were out
2068: [09:59:26] <Pytraink> honestly, justice system here is a fucking joke
2069: [09:59:42] <UncleCheese> cops spent like four hours in her flat doing fingerprints and shit
2070: [09:59:45] <UncleCheese> it was hard core
2071: [10:00:03] <irogue> they tried putting an unmarked car, but the guy was too smart and noticed a commodore parked in the street and didn't turn up those nights
2072: [10:00:06] <UncleCheese> anyway, we heard a lot of places had been hit in that area in the last couple months
2073: [10:00:17] <UncleCheese> so they put some shit in an empty flat
2074: [10:00:22] <UncleCheese> sat across the way with binoculars
2075: [10:00:26] <UncleCheese> and watched the fucker go in and take it
2076: [10:00:38] <irogue> so they had a dog handler + dog hide in a bush near the house around the time the guy always showed up
2077: [10:00:41] <spronk2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC9njDviWwc
2078: [10:00:43] <spronk2> w
2079: [10:00:45] <spronk2> ow.
2080: [10:00:45] <irogue> got dropped off so no police car nearby
2081: [10:00:50] <UncleCheese> they caught him and they offered us restitution and she was allowed to confront him and shit
2082: [10:01:37] <UncleCheese> meanwhile, all i'm getting is an inbox full of photos of my dog going upstairs
2083: [10:01:38] <irogue> guy turns up, smashes window with bat, police dog suddenly comes rushing out of bushes at him
2084: [10:01:55] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: that's more than likely 'entrapment' here.
2085: [10:01:55] <UncleCheese> FUCK YEAH!!!!!!
2086: [10:02:04] <Pytraink> if the police entice someone to commit a crime, it's not a crime, apparently.
2087: [10:02:25] <UncleCheese> entrapment only happens when you coerce someone into committing a crime
2088: [10:02:37] <irogue> dog was on on lead, cop can't let dog off lead without having given warning etc first, but bad guy didn't know that
2089: [10:02:41] <Pytraink> I always thought the correct answer to 'go and rob that house' was "No."
2090: [10:02:50] <UncleCheese> right
2091: [10:02:50] <Pytraink> but apparently if a policeman asks you, it's ok.
2092: [10:03:01] <UncleCheese> i duno.. the baitcar program has been very successful
2093: [10:03:07] <UncleCheese> there's no precedent for entrapment with that
2094: [10:03:16] <Pytraink> yeah, baiting I guess is different.
2095: [10:03:31] <Pytraink> police a pretty much hogtied in this country, it's retarded.
2096: [10:03:31] <UncleCheese> they got permission from the property owner to stake out a flat
2097: [10:03:32] <irogue> next thing was the dog handler calling for a truck to pick the guy up. sergeant asks "is he really so violent he needs the truck?", to which handler says "no, but he saw my dog coming at him and shit himself, so you probably don't want him in your back seat"
2098: [10:03:47] <Pytraink> the fucking dumb cunt of a crim is selling MY PHONE ON FACEBOOK, and they can't get a warrant.
2099: [10:03:52] <UncleCheese> Pytraink that owuld be considered entrapment in NZ?
2100: [10:03:55] <irogue> I miss listening to police scanner, so much hilarious shit
2101: [10:03:56] <Pytraink> because they can't be sure of his address.
2102: [10:04:03] <irogue> UncleCheese: entrapment is 100% legal here
2103: [10:04:04] <UncleCheese> are you kidding?!
2104: [10:04:04] <Pytraink> but buying the phone would be entrapment.
2105: [10:04:10] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: No!
2106: [10:04:37] <Pytraink> buying the phone would be entrapment, can't get a warrant because it has to be for an address, and the little shit had about 5
2107: [10:05:05] <UncleCheese> what kind of steaming pile of bullshit is that
2108: [10:05:05] <Pytraink> and it was on more than one cunts facebook page, and 'it might not be your phone'
2109: [10:05:17] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: yeh, this is about a week after it happened.
2110: [10:05:21] <Colin[pi]> that's retarded
2111: [10:05:47] * spronk2 also misses listening to police scanner
2112: [10:05:48] <Pytraink> so it takes me months to remember more detail about what went on (concussion'll do that), then I give some loose description, then suddenly arrest.
2113: [10:05:51] <spronk2> stupid encrypted radio
2114: [10:05:57] <Pytraink> because me telling about tattoo is enough.
2115: [10:05:58] <Pytraink> SAME GUY
2116: [10:06:06] <Pytraink> original suspect, PHONE LONG GONE FOR A FIVEER
2117: [10:06:14] <Pytraink> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
2118: [10:06:24] <ss23> I'd like to think I'm all badass. If someone beats the shit out of me, I like to imagine I'd go buy a gun/knife and hurt the person a lot
2119: [10:06:29] <ss23> I dunno if it'd happen like that, but I love the *idea*
2120: [10:06:35] <Pytraink> man, if I'd known what I do now back then... I would not have held back for fear of getting into trouble.
2121: [10:06:48] <UncleCheese> probably not a good thing that i'm watching Nazi Hunters on Netflix before going to bed terrified of someone breaking into my house
2122: [10:06:48] <Pytraink> that cunt would have a split skull.
2123: [10:07:01] <spronk2> ss23, revenge killer.
2124: [10:07:04] <Pytraink> certainly no teeth, I was planning a curb stomp.
2125: [10:07:23] <Pytraink> but then I'D Be the one going to jail.
2126: [10:07:34] <Pytraink> because 'excessive force' or some bullshit.
2127: [10:07:37] <Pytraink> who knows
2128: [10:07:42] <spronk2> UncleCheese: cylindrical solid object. thrust upwards, not swing
2129: [10:07:45] <Pytraink> UK law, absolutely fucked.
2130: [10:07:54] <UncleCheese> hmm
2131: [10:07:55] <spronk2> stamp on face.
2132: [10:07:58] <irogue> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4618071/justwater.mp3
2133: [10:08:01] <spronk2> party time.
2134: [10:08:03] <UncleCheese> no swing?
2135: [10:08:10] <Colin[pi]> it makes my blood boil that you can be in deep fucking shit for hurting someone that breaks into your own house
2136: [10:08:11] <spronk2> much easier to avoid and/or block a swing
2137: [10:08:27] <spronk2> thrust the thing straight forward, and slightly upward
2138: [10:08:28] <spronk2> into chest
2139: [10:08:42] <irogue> "this guy's crackers"
2140: [10:08:42] <Pytraink> or just deck them in the face and knock them to the ground like I did
2141: [10:08:44] <irogue> makes me laugh every time
2142: [10:09:04] <Pytraink> decided "ok, better not beat him while he's down"
2143: [10:09:08] <ss23> spronk2: I'm not sure I would be able to murder someone, but the idea of busting in and popping a cap in their knee seems pleasant
2144: [10:09:10] <Pytraink> because then I'm the aggressor
2145: [10:09:14] <Pytraink> wrong decision.
2146: [10:09:18] <spronk2> ss23 so fucking pleasant
2147: [10:09:22] <Pytraink> ended up in hospital.
2148: [10:09:22] <spronk2> i know exactly waht you mean
2149: [10:09:29] <spronk2> its so...
2150: [10:09:31] <spronk2> rage-satisfactory
2151: [10:09:31] <spronk2> somehow
2152: [10:09:36] <ss23> spronk2: It's petty, but I mean... humans are pretty petty when it comes down to it
2153: [10:09:47] <ss23> I'm not going to act like I'm all high and mighty and beyond revenge :O
2154: [10:09:48] <Pytraink> ss23: I know exactly what you mean.
2155: [10:09:50] <ss23> OH SPEAKING OF
2156: [10:10:03] <ss23> This hasn't been posted in a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc
2157: [10:10:15] <Pytraink> I would definitely not like to kill someone. but if they died while I was performing self defence, I don't think I'd be too worried.
2158: [10:10:20] <ss23> Do you know the difference between Justice and Punishement?
2159: [10:10:24] <Pytraink> well, I'd like to think I wouldn't be. But I probably would.
2160: [10:10:33] <irogue> UncleCheese, Colin[pi]: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328283.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1
2161: [10:10:33] <spronk2> yeah
2162: [10:10:36] <spronk2> that shit would haunt you
2163: [10:10:47] <Pytraink> ss23: I've heard this before, but go on
2164: [10:11:10] <Pytraink> oh yeah right, the punisher
2165: [10:11:11] <Pytraink> hehe
2166: [10:11:13] <UncleCheese> irogue that's what the cop told me
2167: [10:11:18] <Colin[pi]> irogue: " prevent the forcible breaking and entering"
2168: [10:11:24] <Colin[pi]> ok so what about if they're already in?
2169: [10:11:35] <irogue> then you're looking at section 48
2170: [10:11:41] <irogue> http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328268.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1
2171: [10:11:44] <Pytraink> Colin[pi]: give them a knife, then disembowl them.
2172: [10:11:47] <Pytraink> claim defence
2173: [10:11:54] <Pytraink> dead men don't tell lies
2174: [10:11:55] <Colin[pi]> hmmm
2175: [10:11:59] <irogue> not hard to claim you thought they were gonna hurt you
2176: [10:12:01] <irogue> they're in your house
2177: [10:12:08] <UncleCheese> yeah, exactly
2178: [10:12:10] <Colin[pi]> questionable legal area though, heard of some fucked up stories
2179: [10:12:10] <spronk2> maybe they just wanted some sugar
2180: [10:12:16] <spronk2> maybe they really needed to pee
2181: [10:12:18] <spronk2> shit irogue
2182: [10:12:20] <UncleCheese> in the US, they always say, if your'e going to hurt him, make sure you kill him
2183: [10:12:25] <UncleCheese> because a dead guy can't say shit
2184: [10:12:28] <irogue> Colin[pi]: no lawsuits in nz remember
2185: [10:12:34] <Colin[pi]> wasn't there some case of a dude who broke in, tripped and broke his leg, and sued the owner??
2186: [10:12:40] <UncleCheese> yes
2187: [10:12:45] <UncleCheese> happens all the time
2188: [10:12:51] <Colin[pi]> that's just... fucking retarded
2189: [10:12:55] <Colin[pi]> but.. it happens :(
2190: [10:13:15] <spronk2> bloody USia
2191: [10:13:22] <spronk2> better call saul, i guess
2192: [10:13:22] <irogue> a mate of mine's dad once caught someone in their farm shed
2193: [10:13:46] <irogue> shot him in the leg
2194: [10:14:02] <irogue> guy didn't have a weapon or anything
2195: [10:14:35] <irogue> police turned up, asked "was it self defence?" "yep" "good enough for me"
2196: [10:14:41] <UncleCheese> haha
2197: [10:14:47] <UncleCheese> yeah, i've heard the cops hate intruders
2198: [10:14:50] <irogue> yeah
2199: [10:15:08] <irogue> and since there's no lawsuits, the only way the homeowner could be prosecuted is if the cops decided to be dicks
2200: [10:15:12] <Pytraink> I hate muggers.
2201: [10:15:17] <Pytraink> I hate retards
2202: [10:15:24] <Pytraink> I hate unreasonable people
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2204: [10:15:38] <Colin[pi]> Pytraink: I hate people
2205: [10:15:40] <Colin[pi]> :D
2206: [10:15:49] <irogue> the clip I posted above, called justwater.mp3
2207: [10:15:57] <irogue> where the cop called the guy they caught crackers
2208: [10:15:58] <UncleCheese> alright, well, when this needledick finally pays us a visit, i'll do ya proud, Pytraink
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2210: [10:16:04] <irogue> the filename has a bit of a story
2211: [10:16:11] <jeroenem> is there a way to have an upload field in the frontend without all the JS crap around? like drag & drop and that stuff ?
2212: [10:16:30] <irogue> family came home, there was a Just Water delivery truck in their driveway. engine on but noone in it. and they don't buy water.
2213: [10:16:41] <UncleCheese> jeroenem not at the moment, but i'm working on something
2214: [10:16:51] <irogue> called police, they searched the house with a dog, found a guy hiding in the young daughter's closet
2215: [10:17:05] <spronk2> lol wwtf
2216: [10:17:08] <jeroenem> UncleCheese: ahh bummer
2217: [10:17:18] <irogue> in full just water uniform and everything
2218: [10:17:23] <UncleCheese> jeroenem there's always a plain FileField
2219: [10:17:28] <Pytraink> UncleCheese: yeah well... I didn't say kill him in any seriousness :< but yeah, if they make it inside, destroy them.
2220: [10:17:54] <jeroenem> sometimes the new UploadField is just too much for what you need
2221: [10:18:20] <irogue> UploadField in frontend is a bit of a bitch too
2222: [10:18:23] <irogue> I just stick to FileField
2223: [10:18:31] <Pytraink> My biggest regret from being in such an unpleasant situation was holding back in fear of all the paperwork that can surround something so simple.
2224: [10:18:37] <Pytraink> honestly, fuck modern society.
2225: [10:18:52] <Pytraink> violent criminals need to be castrated.
2226: [10:19:06] <Pytraink> maybe on 3 strikes, but definitely so.
2227: [10:19:16] <jeroenem> I will try a FileField instead for now :)
2228: [10:19:19] <UncleCheese> jeroenem pm me your email and when i have my thingy ready i'll solicit youfor testing
2229: [10:20:35] <Pytraink> wholey shit, wtf is this!?
2230: [10:20:36] <Pytraink> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/silverstripe-dev/MXd-908kxh0
2231: [10:21:15] <UncleCheese> ha
2232: [10:22:06] <irogue> Pytraink: it's something that does need to happen, but just not the way hamish wants to do it
2233: [10:22:15] <irogue> everyone else in the thread all agree on the correct way to do it
2234: [10:22:34] <UncleCheese> hmm
2235: [10:22:37] <Pytraink> irogue: micmania1 has already submitted a pull request that solves 2 of those three
2236: [10:22:46] <Pytraink> and makes it easy to achieve the third with a bit more effort
2237: [10:22:48] <irogue> Pytraink: yup, as he says
2238: [10:22:59] * Pytraink is still reading
2239: [10:24:31] <irogue> btw UncleCheese: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328251.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1
2240: [10:26:10] <irogue> and http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328255.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1 you can do so with force as long as it's not "intended or likely to cause death or grievous bodily harm"
2241: [10:26:16] <spronk2> hmm o_O
2242: [10:26:43] <spronk2> Pytraink: what do to violent femmes?
2243: [10:27:09] <Pytraink> spronk2: oh you
2244: [10:27:14] <spronk2> :D
2245: [10:27:27] <irogue> UncleCheese: it has to be something in the Crimes Act though, i.e. serious crime. trespassing isn't enough.
2246: [10:27:46] <Pytraink> [11:24] <irogue> btw UncleCheese: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328251.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1
2247: [10:27:47] <Pytraink> OMFG
2248: [10:28:25] <Pytraink> see, if I knew something like this existed here, and I wouldn't have any blowback, I would have kept on that shitkicker until he was the one passed out, and called the cops from MY telephone
2249: [10:28:36] <irogue> Pytraink: yep
2250: [10:28:40] <UncleCheese> i'm confused
2251: [10:28:40] <spronk2> heh
2252: [10:28:45] <UncleCheese> can I clock the guy or not?
2253: [10:28:56] <spronk2> yes*
2254: [10:29:07] <irogue> UncleCheese: basically, you can do whatever the fuck you want *once* attempting to enter the house
2255: [10:29:10] <irogue> on the roof isn't enough
2256: [10:29:16] <Pytraink> but... new country, new laws, not knowing what's going on, how anal they are about this kind of thing (they're pretty anal about to the letter followings of everything else)... I kinda just let it happen (subconciously)
2257: [10:29:22] <Pytraink> makes me angry :(
2258: [10:29:28] <irogue> catch him jimmying a window or picking a lock, you're probably OK
2259: [10:29:31] <irogue> (IANAL)
2260: [10:29:45] <irogue> but lets be honest, nz cops aren't likely to give a shit either way
2261: [10:29:54] <irogue> "ty for making our job easier"
2262: [10:30:16] <Pytraink> irogue: yeah
2263: [10:30:40] <Audlex> this should be valid, right? where ProjectPage is a TreeDropdownField. http://pastebin.com/0vGXnbUD
2264: [10:30:41] <Pytraink> I was pretty sure that UK cops would have said thanks too... but then 3 on 1 it could easily turn into a collusion of 'he hit us first' etc
2265: [10:30:48] <Audlex> it wont display any information on the children
2266: [10:31:10] <irogue> Pytraink: idk, UK cops seem pretty weird (based on the far-too-many cop shows I watch)
2267: [10:31:14] <Pytraink> irogue: especially after learning afterwards that cops have been trying to get this shitkicker off the streets for some time now
2268: [10:31:24] <zippy> Audlex: ProjectPage or ProjectLink ?
2269: [10:31:27] <Pytraink> irogue: yeah, basically. IDK.
2270: [10:31:29] <irogue> some weirdly follow the book to the letter
2271: [10:31:33] <Pytraink> it's worrying
2272: [10:31:51] <Pytraink> like, I can't defend myself, if I do I get done for assault? IDK.
2273: [10:32:25] <Pytraink> and that hesitation... it costs you your phone, wallet, memories, photographs, and nose.
2274: [10:32:27] <Audlex> zippy: I did name it ProjectLink
2275: [10:32:29] <Pytraink> oh, and pay.
2276: [10:32:39] <Pytraink> because not been at work long enough to qualify for sick pay
2277: [10:33:00] <Audlex> I did something very similar on another project last week
2278: [10:33:07] <Pytraink> so I went back to work as soon as I could WHICH THEY USED AS A REASON TO NOT PAY ME COMPENSATION (govt this is)
2279: [10:33:24] <Pytraink> "Criminal Injuiries Compensation Association"
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2281: [10:33:38] <irogue> ARRRR http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328572.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_crimes+act_resel_25_a&p=1
2282: [10:34:10] <Pytraink> what it should really be called: "Criminal Inflicted Permenant Disfigurment or Disability Compensation Association"
2283: [10:35:04] <Pytraink> irogue: hahahaha, PROPER piracy.
2284: [10:35:08] * g4b0_ quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
2285: [10:35:13] <Pytraink> not copyright infringement
2286: [10:37:30] <irogue> Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who by force or violence breaks any prison, with intent to set at liberty himself or herself or any other person detained therein.
2287: [10:37:40] <irogue> I did actually always wonder what the punishment for breaking out of prison was
2288: [10:38:06] <ss23> irogue: go to bed
2289: [10:38:28] <ss23> irogue: Doesn't that mean if you sneak out of prison, you're okay?
2290: [10:38:32] <ss23> Only force and violence count
2291: [10:38:35] <irogue> ss23: it would seem so
2292: [10:38:41] <ss23> That... kind of makes sense?
2293: [10:38:51] <irogue> yeah
2294: [10:39:14] <irogue> if the prison's dumb enough that you can sneak out without having to even break a lock (which presumably would be 'force'), good on you
2295: [10:39:17] <ss23> If you're not violent or forceful, minimal risk to anyone, so essential boils down to "this person didn't wanna be locked up and hurt no one about it"
2296: [10:39:50] <irogue> at that point you're basically just pentesting
2297: [10:39:56] <Pytraink> oh law, you so fukt
2298: [10:40:01] <ss23> lol irogue
2299: [10:40:04] <Pytraink> #me buries face in hands
2300: [10:40:05] <ss23> I wonder if that works IRL
2301: [10:40:12] * Pytraink *
2302: [10:40:13] <ss23> "yeah um... sorry bank... I'm just... pentesting?"
2303: [10:40:20] <Pytraink> LOL
2304: [10:40:22] <irogue> ss23: there's only one way to find outy
2305: [10:40:26] <ss23> hahah
2306: [10:40:29] <Pytraink> technically you gotta be employed to be pentesting.
2307: [10:40:34] <Pytraink> or retained, or whatever.
2308: [10:40:37] <ss23> tomorrow -- "westpac contractor arrested for 'pentesting'"
2309: [10:40:37] <Pytraink> have a contract.
2310: [10:40:39] <irogue> ss23: 'pentested' NIB yet?
2311: [10:41:04] <ss23> Honestly, it'd be hard to hack them through NIB or their main site
2312: [10:41:14] <ss23> Hard to the point where if I was going to try and do evil things to them, I would avoid that
2313: [10:42:35] <ss23> Bed tiem for me
2314: [10:43:04] <Colin[pi]> nn dude
2315: [10:43:34] <spronk2> mm
2316: [10:43:44] <irogue> I'm at the point now where I'm pondering whether going to bed is a good idea
2317: [10:45:39] <irogue> https://twitter.com/JusSumWun/status/525222225633218560
2318: [10:45:48] <irogue> ah, apparently thats who it was with the fucking insane fireworks
2319: [10:45:52] * irogue wonders if they were legal
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2321: [10:50:34] <spronk2> mm..
2322: [10:50:54] <Pytraink> spronk2: when do you leave for wlg?
2323: [10:51:01] <spronk2> eh?
2324: [10:52:30] <Pytraink> oh fuck, irogue ^^
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2326: [10:56:16] <irogue> Pytraink: taxi picks me up at 5:30
2327: [10:56:25] <Pytraink> heh, 5 hrs then
2328: [10:56:34] <Pytraink> also, expensive taxi! :P
2329: [10:56:52] <irogue> Pytraink: not really, am close to airport
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2331: [10:56:55] <irogue> (not that i'm paying)
2332: [10:57:18] <Pytraink> irogue: I meant: "when are you going to wellington" "TAXI comes at 5"
2333: [10:57:23] <Pytraink> ...
2334: [10:57:30] <Pytraink> also, cool :>
2335: [10:57:37] <Pytraink> the best kind of taxi! xD
2336: [10:57:44] <irogue> Pytraink: ah, lol
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2339: [10:59:52] <irogue> Pytraink: wonder what that'd actually cost, lol
2340: [10:59:59] <Pytraink> lol https://www.openhub.net/p/silverstripe/contributors/21623013336410
2341: [11:00:17] <Pytraink> irogue: I imagine that'd go on booked fare, not akl central meter price
2342: [11:01:20] <kinglozzer> simon_w: You awake?
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2344: [11:03:45] <Pytraink> heyhey, lol https://www.openhub.net/p/silverstripe/contributors/21623013474997
2345: [11:04:44] <irogue> Pytraink: $1205
2346: [11:05:16] <Pytraink> haha irogue
2347: [11:05:29] <Pytraink> so cheaper than a jetstar flight!
2348: [11:05:39] <Pytraink> (factoring in buying a new wardrobe on arrival, etc)
2349: [11:05:54] <Pytraink> :P
2350: [11:06:08] <spronk2> wow
2351: [11:06:31] <spronk2> ss’s commits per month graph is looking sad
2352: [11:06:38] <Pytraink> garn get 4 hours sleep irogue
2353: [11:06:46] <spronk2> way lower in 2014 than 2013 adn 2012
2354: [11:06:47] <zippy> http://i.imgur.com/iXsZdHh.jpg?1
2355: [11:07:10] <Pytraink> haha
2356: [11:07:57] <irogue> Pytraink: annoyingly, i'm not tired yet
2357: [11:10:10] <irogue> I suck at sleeping when not tired, and it's seemingly random whether I get tired at 8pm or 2am
2358: [11:10:20] <irogue> guess tonight's gonna be a 2am
2359: [11:10:35] <zippy> spronk2: does look sad
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2362: [11:13:10] <zippy> im out
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2364: [11:14:07] <Pytraink> heh, a package manager for windows
2365: [11:14:10] <Pytraink> who knew
2366: [11:14:16] <Pytraink> chocolatey.org
2367: [11:14:20] <Eliseth> what's windows?
2368: [11:14:24] <Pytraink> haha
2369: [11:14:46] <Pytraink> it's like linux, but shitter... I mean eterprise!
2370: [11:16:27] <Pytraink> urgh fuck'n rails users and goddamn coffeescript
2371: [11:16:35] <Pytraink> :<
2372: [11:19:55] <spronk2> loool
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2374: [11:48:23] <Pytraink> om nom nom nom summer breeze
2375: [11:48:47] <Pytraink> SUMMER BREEZE £3.20 spanish chorizo,sliced mozzarella,sun dried tomatoes,wild rocket & pesto mayo.
2376: [12:02:28] <Pytraink> spronk2: ss commits... project or ltd?
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2378: [12:09:31] <spronk2> proj
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2380: [12:11:24] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#3507 (3.1 - a6e8b93 : Daniel Hensby): The build passed.
2381: [12:11:24] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/6622d066fd04...a6e8b93bcd1b
2382: [12:11:24] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/38812149
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2387: [12:31:27] <Pytraink> spronk2: that's because encouragement to commit is at an all time low :<
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2390: [12:58:22] <g4b0_> Did you niticed that the search in http://addons.silverstripe.org/ is not working?
2391: [12:58:51] <Pytraink> dunno
2392: [12:59:04] <Pytraink> it goes in and out of service often it seems
2393: [12:59:06] <Pytraink> tell ss23
2394: [12:59:19] <g4b0_> try searching "zirak"
2395: [12:59:25] <g4b0_> now it's working
2396: [12:59:32] <g4b0_> the results are my 10 modules
2397: [12:59:51] <g4b0_> sometimes the results are 10 random modules
2398: [12:59:58] <g4b0_> really strange
2399: [13:00:24] <wmk> g4b0_, yup, search is a bit of funny...
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2401: [13:02:06] <g4b0_> ahah, funny is not the world I think at when it does not work :)
2402: [13:02:33] <wmk> searching for userform doesn't return userformS module
2403: [13:02:46] <wmk> g4b0_, go and search on packagist ;)
2404: [13:03:30] <g4b0_> I know that packagist search is working, but I'm a big SS fan
2405: [13:03:43] <wmk> or maybe search is a member of nz labour union and has free time at night
2406: [13:03:50] <g4b0_> I like to spend my time on silverstripe.org :D
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2408: [13:04:03] <wmk> ;)
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2410: [13:06:15] <kinglozzer> Woohoo, first pull request done
2411: [13:06:30] <kinglozzer> g4b0_ gets the honour ;)
2412: [13:06:30] <g4b0_> kinglozzer: link please
2413: [13:06:36] <g4b0_> wow
2414: [13:06:44] <g4b0_> I'm honored :)
2415: [13:06:47] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/3525
2416: [13:07:05] <kinglozzer> I was keen to test out how to squash commits for people contributing docs, seems to have worked perfectly :)
2417: [13:07:32] <g4b0_> nice work kinglozzer!
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2420: [13:12:46] <wmk> argh..... internet so slooooowwwwww
2421: [13:14:09] <wmk> kinglozzer, squashing commits means making one commit out of more?
2422: [13:14:59] <kinglozzer> wmk: Yeah :)
2423: [13:15:14] <kinglozzer> Keeps the commit history more tidy that way
2424: [13:17:08] <wmk> fine
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2426: [13:18:14] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#3508 (3.1 - 6683f3d : Gabriele Brosulo): The build passed.
2427: [13:18:14] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/a6e8b93bcd1b...6683f3d28301
2428: [13:18:14] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/38817207
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2444: [14:30:15] <Pytraink> I'm proper bored.
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2451: [15:05:42] <g4b0_> I'm trying to add a button after "Link existing" in GridFieldAddExistingAutocompleter
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2453: [15:06:20] <g4b0_> I created class GridFieldAddExistingOrNewAutocompleter extends GridFieldAddExistingAutocompleter {
2454: [15:06:44] <g4b0_> and then I pushed it into my gridfield
2455: [15:06:59] <g4b0_> now I would like to handle it behaviour
2456: [15:07:41] <g4b0_> my class is the following: http://pastebin.com/fGiW83yC
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2458: [15:10:15] <g4b0_> I would like, inside handleAction, to create a new DO, and link it like it was linked through "Link existing" button
2459: [15:10:25] <g4b0_> but I don't know how to do it...
2460: [15:12:47] <g4b0_> ANY HINT?
2461: [15:13:01] <g4b0_> sorry for uppercase :)
2462: [15:15:36] <catcher> g4b0_, why not just use both the add button component & autocompleter?
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2464: [15:18:27] <g4b0_> I would like to use autocompleter
2465: [15:18:36] <g4b0_> and if an item is not found
2466: [15:18:49] <g4b0_> I would like to add it without change page
2467: [15:18:58] <g4b0_> it's a one-property Do
2468: [15:19:26] <g4b0_> so I would like to create it on the basis of what written into the autocomplete field
2469: [15:21:06] <g4b0_> I need to access the autocomplete field value, in order to create my new DO
2470: [15:21:22] <g4b0_> but I don't know how to do it
2471: [15:21:39] <g4b0_> inside handleAction I have the GridField obj
2472: [15:21:51] <g4b0_> maybe I can access the value from it
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2474: [15:40:19] <toddvalentine> Does any extra sanitizing need to be done to user input entered using the default SS site search? I'm noticing that anytime the word 'as' is included in a search, SS is adding it to the query.
2475: [15:40:41] <toddvalentine> I implemented the search using the SS tutorial.
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2479: [15:55:19] <marvanni> anyone using PHPStorm?
2480: [15:58:47] <muskie9> marvanni, yes
2481: [15:59:19] <marvanni> Did you managed to discover methods from SomeClass::create() calls?
2482: [15:59:56] <marvanni> like TextField::create()->addExtraClass(); so addExtraClass is recognized?
2483: [16:00:15] <kinglozzer> toddvalentine: That behaviour is a bug, it's been logged by someone else here: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/3212
2484: [16:00:27] <muskie9> save the newly created field to a var, then apply the method for now
2485: [16:00:52] <muskie9> $var = TextFeld::create(); $var->addExtraClass();
2486: [16:01:13] <marvanni> hm.. thats uggly...
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2488: [16:02:03] <muskie9> actually I have some ::create()->setTitle()->performReadonlyTransformations() working
2489: [16:02:19] <kinglozzer> toddvale_: That behaviour is a bug, it's been logged by someone else here: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/3212
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2491: [16:03:23] <marvanni> If I create a complex form I don't want to assign each Field to a var… Guess I let PHPstorm mown about it...
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2493: [16:04:57] <muskie9> marvanni, the setTitle in this says it's not found but it works fine: https://gist.github.com/nhorstmeier/55f8b8aae163c596d095
2494: [16:05:05] <muskie9> I've just been ignoring it
2495: [16:05:21] <kinglozzer> marvanni: I'd ask Zauberfisch when he's around, he's the PHPStorm expert :P
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2497: [16:06:27] <marvanni> yes the method calls will work, but I hate the yellow marks in the files :)
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2499: [16:06:41] <marvanni> kinglozzer, I will ask him, thanks
2500: [16:09:47] <toddval__> kinglozzer: thanks.
2501: [16:11:02] <marvanni> DataObject::get() does work….
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2503: [16:14:23] <kinglozzer> marvanni: I thought someone had tried to fix it: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/commit/d1c68e6020794fb63d4eb540dc5ad2de6cd70d92
2504: [16:14:44] <kinglozzer> Apparently it should work in PHPStorm
2505: [16:14:51] <kinglozzer> Are you using a version of SS from before that change?
2506: [16:17:27] <marvanni> yes its not the latest...
2507: [16:18:01] <marvanni> Ill leave it for now….
2508: [16:18:05] <marvanni> thanks anyway :)
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2518: [17:07:45] <marvanni> Am I the only one that finds the required location of form templates somewhat inconsistent?
2519: [17:09:01] <marvanni> If you ask me, form templates should live in /forms/ not also in /Includes/
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2525: [17:55:04] <catcher> Is the widget module the best thing going to support manual & dynamic content in sidebars?
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2527: [18:27:41] <marvanni> I created a SiteBlock DataObject that I can add to Pages
2528: [18:28:17] <marvanni> Its not yet really releasable, but its easy to roll your own
2529: [18:29:30] <marvanni> Page many_many SiteBlocks.. SiteBlockAdmin for creating SiteBlocks. a gridfield on Page to select created SiteBlocks and maybe a manymanyExtraField to set a position like left/right
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2533: [18:56:36] <Kingy> friday morning yayyyy
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2535: [19:08:30] <JeremyRoundill> Morning.
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2545: [19:44:41] <wilsonstaff> Hi to all, off-topic. Someone knows hot to trigger a query function from a
2546: [19:45:13] <wilsonstaff> select HTML option element?
2547: [19:46:00] <Ryan-Toast> vanilla, or jQuery?
2548: [19:47:20] <Ryan-Toast> wilsonstaff: ?
2549: [19:47:52] <wilsonstaff> <Ryan-Toast>Sorry Ryan. Jquery
2550: [19:48:16] <Ryan-Toast> jQuery(‘.select-class’).on(‘change’, function() {});
2551: [19:49:13] <wilsonstaff> <Ryan-Toast>Ok i am trying that
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2553: [19:51:37] <Ryan-Toast> wilsonstaff: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/vbKrG
2554: [19:52:48] <wilsonstaff> <Ryan-Toast>Not working. Ive set an alert pi-up into the function. No pup-up, no action either.
2555: [19:53:09] <Ryan-Toast> did you do what I did above?
2556: [19:54:43] <wilsonstaff> <Ryan-Toast>yes, working. But how to assign a specific JQuery function to a specific option?
2557: [19:55:24] <catcher> wilsonstaff, test the value inside the change event handler, call function accordingly
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2559: [19:55:50] <Ryan-Toast> wilsonstaff: what catcher said
2560: [19:56:18] <Ryan-Toast> or create a method that checks against the value
2561: [19:56:39] <wilsonstaff> * May i add that this is to be activated on an iPhone? Its a select (Dropdown) menu with option that will show/hide some part of the page.
2562: [19:56:58] <Ryan-Toast> yeah, that’s fine.
2563: [19:57:12] <Ryan-Toast> just make sure you do a class toggle, and use css to hide it.
2564: [19:57:28] <Ryan-Toast> it’s the fastest.
2565: [19:57:37] <Stomach> http://codepen.io/anon/pen/GELvy
2566: [19:57:39] <Stomach> codepen is fun
2567: [19:58:01] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: did you mean to change something|
2568: [19:58:09] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: it's friday!
2569: [19:58:10] <Stomach> i did change something
2570: [19:58:36] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Ah, I had to open it again for some reason
2571: [19:58:55] <catcher> Different URL
2572: [19:59:08] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: It is indeed :)
2573: [19:59:18] <Kingy> speical kinda friday as well
2574: [19:59:24] <antmas> morning all
2575: [19:59:35] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Yacht time this weekend
2576: [19:59:42] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: baller!
2577: [19:59:55] * antmas says baller in the whitest way possible
2578: [20:00:02] <Kingy> not really the weather
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2580: [20:00:09] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Was so many things on this weekend, but Godparents asked me to come out first :(
2581: [20:00:20] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Reading and fishing weather
2582: [20:00:41] <Kingy> +1
2583: [20:00:46] <Kingy> or gaming
2584: [20:00:51] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nice, I was gonna go fishing on my mates yacht on Monday but weather looks to be terribad
2585: [20:01:19] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Secretly I’m hoping that it gets so bad that thy drop me at Waiheke where all my mates are staying :P
2586: [20:01:36] <Stomach> going to goto coromandel and hang out inside
2587: [20:01:47] <wilsonstaff> * Works. Thanks to all!
2588: [20:02:07] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: XD
2589: [20:02:13] <Ryan-Toast> wilsonstaff: JS is annoying to get into, but fun when you get there :)
2590: [20:02:28] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: they’re staying in a fucking mansion.
2591: [20:02:32] <Ryan-Toast> it’s ridik
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2593: [20:04:45] <antmas> lucky bastards
2594: [20:04:52] <antmas> everyone see the Avengers 2 trailer?
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2599: [20:06:10] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: mother-fucking-ultron
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2603: [20:07:13] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: ikr
2604: [20:07:16] <antmas> looks epic
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2608: [20:07:48] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Interesting to see how they play the red witch.
2609: [20:08:26] <Ryan-Toast> Would like to see them just ask Black Widow, and Hawkeye to stay at home.
2610: [20:09:07] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: lol yes
2611: [20:09:07] <Ryan-Toast> We got this guys, pretty sure martial arts and sharpened sticks won’t be needed today
2612: [20:09:38] <antmas> I don't like the look of Hulk Crusher (crusher?)
2613: [20:09:42] <Ryan-Toast> Calling it that Black Widow stops hulk after the hulk buster fight, just because feelings.
2614: [20:09:45] <antmas> whatever the new suit is
2615: [20:09:57] <antmas> hulk buster
2616: [20:09:58] <antmas> that's it
2617: [20:10:01] <Ryan-Toast> BELIEVE IN YOURSELF BRUCE
2618: [20:10:11] <Ryan-Toast> BITCH I’M ALWAYS ANGRY
2619: [20:10:12] <antmas> YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS
2620: [20:11:08] * Kingy reads the last 3 lines... decides he needs to scroll up a bit
2621: [20:11:16] <Ryan-Toast> Don’t get me wrong, I love black widow. She’s great when you need to infultrate somwhere for information and all that biz, but why do they try and get her fighting literal gods?
2622: [20:11:34] <Ryan-Toast> same goes for Hawkeye
2623: [20:11:58] <Ryan-Toast> I don’t get why ironman doesn’t make those guys some suits.
2624: [20:12:08] <Ryan-Toast> shit, Tony. Help a brother out
2625: [20:12:25] <antmas> no one can justify Hawkeye
2626: [20:12:36] <Ryan-Toast> arrows, brah
2627: [20:13:01] <Ryan-Toast> Who needs bullets.
2628: [20:13:07] <Ryan-Toast> oh wait, everyone.
2629: [20:13:53] <antmas> they should just put him on top of a building, give him a scope and make him spotter
2630: [20:13:54] <antmas> done
2631: [20:13:56] <antmas> move along
2632: [20:14:04] <Ryan-Toast> that’s actually a good plan.
2633: [20:14:20] <Ryan-Toast> give him a laser that ironman can track
2634: [20:14:40] <antmas> or just have him polish Thor's boots
2635: [20:14:50] <Stomach> they could just blow everything up with nukes
2636: [20:14:53] <Stomach> NUKE IT ALL
2637: [20:15:06] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: nah, Vibranium.
2638: [20:15:15] <Ryan-Toast> don’t care bout nkes
2639: [20:15:41] <Stomach> vibranium cancer though
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2641: [20:16:02] <novaweb> YEOW WOO party day!
2642: [20:16:13] * antmas hi5s novaweb
2643: [20:16:14] <antmas> o/
2644: [20:16:21] <novaweb> o/
2645: [20:16:36] <Kingy> SS are doing their hack thing today?
2646: [20:17:09] <antmas> I wish they'd stream those things
2647: [20:17:18] <antmas> so we can all watch ss23 eat
2648: [20:17:21] <antmas> etc etc
2649: [20:17:22] <catcher> What exactly is the hack thing today?
2650: [20:17:45] <novaweb> Not a hack day
2651: [20:17:46] <Kingy> catcher: they have a hack day where they work on their own projects basically
2652: [20:17:59] <Kingy> novaweb: not?
2653: [20:18:13] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: I call that everyday
2654: [20:18:14] <novaweb> Nah...
2655: [20:18:20] <Kingy> Ryan-Toast: rofl yeah
2656: [20:18:46] <novaweb> I'm not sure if the reason behind the celebration is under wraps so I'll let one of them shed light if it's not....
2657: [20:19:10] <Ryan-Toast> novaweb: is it TinyMCE v4? :P
2658: [20:19:19] <Kingy> new office isn't it
2659: [20:19:21] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: prepare your bodies
2660: [20:19:35] * Ryan-Toast ’s body is prepared.
2661: [20:20:40] <simon_w> kinglozzer, yes
2662: [20:21:17] <kinglozzer> simon_w: :P. I was gonna ask about squashing someone else's commits for them, but I figured it out :)
2663: [20:21:46] <simon_w> rebase! :p
2664: [20:22:04] <Colin[pi]> morning all
2665: [20:22:11] <Colin[pi]> antmas: EARLY ENOUGH FOR YOU TODAY BOSS?
2666: [20:22:16] <simon_w> Good morning Mr Colin
2667: [20:22:44] <Kingy> 7:20am
2668: [20:22:45] <Kingy> crazy mofo
2669: [20:23:22] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: gf started work at 7am and I don't have my son here this morning, that's why :P
2670: [20:23:24] * antmas approves Colin[pi]
2671: [20:23:43] <antmas> party at Colin[pi] 's?
2672: [20:23:58] <Kingy> lemme look at ticket prices
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2674: [20:25:00] <simon_w> $2.69
2675: [20:25:29] <Kingy> jesus: $1200 return
2676: [20:25:37] <Colin[pi]> so cheap!
2677: [20:25:39] <Colin[pi]> o_O
2678: [20:25:57] <Kingy> wtf cheap!
2679: [20:26:16] <Kingy> cost gf and I $1200 return over xmas
2680: [20:26:17] <simon_w> I guess that's for today, so yeah, it's cheap
2681: [20:26:36] <simon_w> Kingy, there's an extra flight to get to Canberra
2682: [20:26:38] <Kingy> That's what I hate about this part of the world. Last minute tickets go up in price
2683: [20:26:50] <Kingy> complete opposite in Europe
2684: [20:27:15] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: from where to where?
2685: [20:27:27] <Kingy> wellywood to canberra
2686: [20:27:32] <Kingy> simon_w: it's two extra flights
2687: [20:27:39] <Kingy> welly to auckland
2688: [20:27:47] <simon_w> Kingy, well, that's just stupid
2689: [20:27:57] <simon_w> Though I guess expected on a Friday
2690: [20:27:57] <Kingy> don't blame me
2691: [20:28:07] <Kingy> barely any direct flights to aussie from Wellington anymore
2692: [20:28:30] <simon_w> Two a day to Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane
2693: [20:28:44] <simon_w> On both Qantas and Air NZ
2694: [20:29:22] <Kingy> every time i'm looking it's always Wellington->Auckland->Aussie
2695: [20:29:32] <Kingy> whatever happened to Freedom Air out of Palmerston North!!!!
2696: [20:32:00] <simon_w> I have yet to fly by anything other than direct to aussie out of WGTN
2697: [20:33:42] <adrexia> <irogue> "oh we'll just hardcode this for now" -> forget to ever fix it
2698: [20:33:43] <adrexia> 1895: [21:27:52] <irogue> I blame adrexia
2699: [20:33:44] <adrexia> oi!
2700: [20:33:54] <adrexia> that so totally wasn't me
2701: [20:34:17] <adrexia> the history tab was hardcoded before I ever even saw Silverstripe 3 :P
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2704: [20:35:49] <adrexia> though I do remember there was going to be a way to alter those top tabs, but it fell out of scope because it was going to be really really hard
2705: [20:36:13] <Colin[pi]> file under "too hard basket"
2706: [20:37:46] <adrexia> yeah. In retrospect I'm not sure I'd want adding tabs to the top to be easy anyway
2707: [20:38:16] <adrexia> judging by what I see devs do all the time, we'd end up with 5 layers of all the tabs
2708: [20:39:02] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: heh heh heh... I don't know what you're talking about....... *shifty eyes*
2709: [20:39:11] * adrexia laughs
2710: [20:40:10] <adrexia> I do what the ability to access the settings tab without having to save the record though
2711: [20:40:20] <Stomach> yeah thats a pain in the ass
2712: [20:40:30] <adrexia> its much harder to justify putting atuff in tehre when it feels so much like going somewhere else
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2714: [20:41:06] <Stomach> I only ever goto the settings tab to change the page type
2715: [20:41:17] * adrexia nods
2716: [20:41:18] <Stomach> not letting clients into the site tree is such a good option :D
2717: [20:41:36] <adrexia> I like putting stuff there that will likely only be done once on set-upo
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2719: [20:43:21] <Colin[pi]> since we're on cms, here's a weird thing I've noticed
2720: [20:43:25] <Colin[pi]> go to cms
2721: [20:43:30] <Colin[pi]> click on a page to edit it
2722: [20:43:36] <Colin[pi]> then close the tab
2723: [20:43:40] <Colin[pi]> then reopen the closed tab
2724: [20:43:44] <Colin[pi]> what do you see?
2725: [20:43:50] <Colin[pi]> (and can it be fixed?)
2726: [20:44:04] <simon_w> Broken history API usage!
2727: [20:44:07] <Ryan-Toast> Legolas, tell us what your elf eyes see
2728: [20:44:18] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, the JSON response
2729: [20:44:21] <Colin[pi]> yay!
2730: [20:44:28] <Colin[pi]> must be a workaround for that right?
2731: [20:44:34] <Colin[pi]> cause it's kinda silly
2732: [20:45:46] <simon_w> Work time, I suppose
2733: [20:46:07] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: naw, it's friday
2734: [20:46:11] <Colin[pi]> no one works on a friday
2735: [20:46:32] <simon_w> Colin[pi], you want to donate to either getting me a new laptop or paying off my massive debt then? :p
2736: [20:47:16] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: mmmm I'm going to go with.... no?
2737: [20:47:36] <simon_w> You're no fun :p
2738: [20:47:42] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: especially since today is rent day
2739: [20:47:43] <Colin[pi]> YAY
2740: [20:48:14] <simon_w> The get Simon a laptop and get some sweet hosting out of it donation page: http://www.gofundme.com/91carriage
2741: [20:48:39] * simon_w leaves now
2742: [20:52:52] <adrexia> hahah
2743: [20:53:16] <adrexia> Colin[pi], yep that bug has been there since forever
2744: [20:53:23] <Colin[pi]> I just added an issue
2745: [20:53:24] <adrexia> it used to happen more often
2746: [20:53:31] <adrexia> ...I think tehre already is one
2747: [20:53:44] <Colin[pi]> probably is
2748: [20:53:50] <Colin[pi]> I didn't find it from a cursory scan
2749: [20:54:02] <adrexia> yeah - it'd be right at the bottom
2750: [20:54:10] <adrexia> likely logged in trac pre github
2751: [20:54:11] <Colin[pi]> too hard basket?
2752: [20:54:16] <adrexia> yep
2753: [20:54:19] <Colin[pi]> :(
2754: [20:54:30] <Colin[pi]> but.. it's pretty silly right?
2755: [20:54:38] <Colin[pi]> like users would be like WTF?
2756: [20:54:39] <adrexia> well, that combined with noone reallyt caring
2757: [20:55:03] <adrexia> for what its worth - others using the same pjax-y technology stack get the same errors
2758: [20:55:57] <Colin[pi]> is the issue related to the fact that the CMS changes the location upon click?
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2761: [20:57:51] <Kingy> simon_w: when is your hosting shit going to be up and running
2762: [20:58:28] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: when you give all your monies to him
2763: [20:58:50] <Kingy> haha
2764: [20:58:58] <Kingy> ponzi scheme simon_w styles
2765: [20:59:43] <Colin[pi]> yeah... "target reached" "HAHA SUCKERS, I'LL SEND A POSTCARD FROM ANTARCTICA!"
2766: [20:59:59] <adrexia> Colin[pi], it doesn't seem to hit the right controllers until refresh
2767: [21:00:00] <Colin[pi]> (most people would say a tropical island, but this is simon_w we're talking about)
2768: [21:00:20] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: hmm
2769: [21:00:37] <adrexia> also, sometimes its json other times its... just unstyled content
2770: [21:01:29] <Colin[pi]> looks sloppy, there must be some way to fix :o
2771: [21:01:54] <adrexia> force refresh?
2772: [21:01:55] <adrexia> ;)
2773: [21:02:00] <Colin[pi]> :P
2774: [21:02:08] <adrexia> hmm
2775: [21:02:16] <adrexia> the json could be a timing thing
2776: [21:02:28] <adrexia> the unstyled content though...
2777: [21:03:04] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: reason I'm concerned is that I'll be (finally) switching to 3.x over xmas and I know that clients are going to encounter this and bitch about it
2778: [21:03:57] <adrexia> yeah, I think this could be fixed, but would take some investigation. At least its mostly easy to replicate now. it used to happen every time you knocked wood, hit a pidgeon and clicked the top left corner of your browser window or something
2779: [21:04:07] <Colin[pi]> lol
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2781: [21:04:35] <adrexia> now, its not every time, but its every first time you go to a model admin, close tha tab, and reopen
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2783: [21:04:43] <adrexia> weirdly it works the second time you do it
2784: [21:05:07] <adrexia> Colin[pi], for what its worth, normal people don't go around closiung and reopening tabs
2785: [21:05:28] <adrexia> its still more of a power user thing
2786: [21:05:32] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: you haven't met my clients
2787: [21:05:47] <adrexia> yeah - but I've met a lot of clients
2788: [21:05:48] <Stomach> http://www.rooms.me/
2789: [21:05:57] <Stomach> facebook is trying to take IRC over
2790: [21:05:58] <adrexia> and this bug is only ever reported by developers ;)
2791: [21:06:01] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: I had one the other day accidentally delete half of the site
2792: [21:06:08] <Colin[pi]> I still have no idea how she did it
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2794: [21:06:26] <adrexia> the solution is "hit refresh"
2795: [21:06:35] <adrexia> its hard to get the motivfation to fix it
2796: [21:06:39] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: yeah.. but... but... sigh
2797: [21:06:42] <adrexia> though if you want to give it a go
2798: [21:06:45] <adrexia> ;)
2799: [21:06:47] <Colin[pi]> it's SLOPPY adrexia, it's about polish
2800: [21:06:52] <adrexia> lol
2801: [21:06:57] <adrexia> I logged the bug myself
2802: [21:06:59] <Stomach> there should be some way to make it so you have to enter a password before deleting anything
2803: [21:07:18] <adrexia> but, yeah, surprisingly, no cms users seem to care
2804: [21:07:21] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: it took me 20 mins of db digging to figure out wtf even happened
2805: [21:07:41] <Stomach> she hit delete ? :D
2806: [21:07:47] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: she really, REALLY did a number on it, and in her words "i just deleted something, then hit back a few times :P"
2807: [21:08:12] <adrexia> nice
2808: [21:08:26] <Colin[pi]> I've shown her 10 times how to add a news article page
2809: [21:08:32] <Colin[pi]> yet every time she calls and asks how
2810: [21:08:41] <Colin[pi]> and then she renames the holder with the article name
2811: [21:08:44] <Colin[pi]> EVERY
2812: [21:08:45] <Colin[pi]> SINGLE
2813: [21:08:45] <Colin[pi]> TIME
2814: [21:08:48] <Colin[pi]> >_<
2815: [21:08:52] <adrexia> yeah - chances are she's a single browser tab user
2816: [21:08:55] <adrexia> ;)
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2818: [21:09:16] <Kingy> hoo lyyy shit!
2819: [21:09:17] <Kingy> http://www.gfycat.com/AdorableWhirlwindHorsemouse
2820: [21:09:27] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: no but I'm talking about accidentally closing the tab... hmm well I guess she wouldn't reopen, she'd type it again
2821: [21:09:41] <adrexia> yep ;)
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2823: [21:09:54] <adrexia> is reopening even a thing you can do in IE?
2824: [21:09:56] <adrexia> :P
2825: [21:10:17] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: that's spooky, how did you know she was an IE user?? ;P
2826: [21:10:27] <Colin[pi]> you must be psychic
2827: [21:10:29] <adrexia> lol
2828: [21:13:11] <adrexia> not to type cast users, but developers tend to use browsers very differently to the average user. And the closer a user is to using a browser like a developer does, the less fussy they are about things like having to refresh to fix a problem. They may notice it, but they probably won't panic
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2830: [21:13:35] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: good point
2831: [21:13:40] <Colin[pi]> still want it fixed :P
2832: [21:13:42] <Colin[pi]> :D
2833: [21:13:46] <adrexia> yeah, me too ;)
2834: [21:15:56] <Colin[pi]> there was a guy on reddit last night asking why Windows drives start at C: and what happened to A: and B:
2835: [21:16:01] <Colin[pi]> made me feel OLLLLLLLD
2836: [21:16:41] <UncleCheese> ha
2837: [21:16:53] <adrexia> :D
2838: [21:17:12] <UncleCheese> funny thing is A: isn't nearly as dated as B:
2839: [21:17:15] <Colin[pi]> mm
2840: [21:17:32] <UncleCheese> we lost our B: i want to say in.... 1990?
2841: [21:17:41] <UncleCheese> to make room for the C:
2842: [21:17:44] <UncleCheese> because it took up two bays :)
2843: [21:17:51] <UncleCheese> 10MB
2844: [21:18:11] <Colin[pi]> my first PC had 8MB of RAM, 133MHz CPU... and a HUGE 850MB HDD
2845: [21:18:14] <Colin[pi]> it cost $3000
2846: [21:18:32] <UncleCheese> 850MB
2847: [21:18:32] <UncleCheese> christ
2848: [21:18:53] <Colin[pi]> and I remember when a friend got a 6GB drive, and I was like..... "holy shit!"
2849: [21:19:19] <Colin[pi]> "you'll NEVER fill that up!"
2850: [21:19:21] <Stomach> We got a 4gb drive on our second computer. fucking off the chain
2851: [21:19:28] <oddnoc> I just noticed 5 TB drives are less than USD 200 now.
2852: [21:20:12] <oddnoc> I just don’t by hard drives that often.
2853: [21:20:20] <oddnoc> s/by/buy/
2854: [21:20:40] <adrexia> the internet is my harddrive now
2855: [21:21:02] <Colin[pi]> adrexia: mine too! oh boy, lucky I have that super fast australian internet! OH WAIT
2856: [21:21:11] <UncleCheese> did anyone here ever play Sierra games?
2857: [21:21:15] * gelignite quit (Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT)
2858: [21:21:21] <Kingy> UncleCheese: yes!
2859: [21:21:21] * Colin[pi] raises hand
2860: [21:21:30] <UncleCheese> did you ever play Space Quest 6?
2861: [21:21:36] <UncleCheese> ... i think it was 6
2862: [21:22:22] <Kingy> I don't even remember the game I played
2863: [21:22:27] <Kingy> I just always remember the Sierra logo
2864: [21:22:39] <Colin[pi]> Kingy: lol me too
2865: [21:22:46] <UncleCheese> you go to a mall, 50 years in the future.. and you see Space Quest 12 is on sale
2866: [21:22:50] <Colin[pi]> the first Half-Life was Sierra
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2868: [21:23:12] <Colin[pi]> I loved this back in the day too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT_3:_Close_Quarters_Battle
2869: [21:23:32] <UncleCheese> and it's 12GB
2870: [21:23:37] <UncleCheese> and "47 disks"
2871: [21:23:55] <UncleCheese> and I remember turning to my firend and saying, "haha, they made up a term called 'gigabyte'.. must be an alien thing"
2872: [21:23:58] <UncleCheese> and he was a dork
2873: [21:24:04] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: reminds me of installing Monkey Island 2, I think it was 8 floppies
2874: [21:24:07] <UncleCheese> and he explained to me that it was the next thing beyond megabytes
2875: [21:24:19] <UncleCheese> and I was like, "WHAT?! how can anything be that big!?"
2876: [21:24:24] <Colin[pi]> ye plol
2877: [21:24:35] <UncleCheese> and the funny thing is, SQ6 was making a parody.. that a game could be 12GB in the future
2878: [21:24:39] <UncleCheese> and it was so absurd
2879: [21:24:55] <UncleCheese> but in reality, if there was an SQ12, it would probably be much bigger than 12GB
2880: [21:25:18] <UncleCheese> so even the hyperbole fell short
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2882: [21:27:01] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: fooking css man
2883: [21:27:10] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: need some help?
2884: [21:27:28] <zippy> I have a div
2885: [21:27:38] <zippy> that div, contains another div
2886: [21:27:57] <zippy> <div class="1"> <div class="2>stuff</div></div> -
2887: [21:28:02] <zippy> (those are not my class names)
2888: [21:28:04] <Colin[pi]> kinglozzer: that was fast!
2889: [21:28:26] <Kingy> zippy: cricket o/
2890: [21:28:30] <zippy> my second div has a margin-top: 40px, but the cock is not pushing off the top of 1. It busts out
2891: [21:28:39] <zippy> so intead of 40px between the top of 1 and 2
2892: [21:28:55] <Ryan-Toast> use padding, or clear: both the parent
2893: [21:29:09] <Kingy> yeah clear brah
2894: [21:29:26] <zippy> why does it need clears if there is no floats or anything
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2896: [21:29:52] <kinglozzer> Colin[pi]: Lightning! :P
2897: [21:30:03] <Colin[pi]> kinglozzer: not confirmed in other browsers though?
2898: [21:30:14] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: margin can interact with other elements, they can bleed into each other
2899: [21:30:27] <zippy> css is bollocks eh
2900: [21:30:35] <zippy> clear all the things, lets see what happens
2901: [21:30:41] <kinglozzer> Colin[pi]: Now checking FF, don't have any VMs on my Macbook
2902: [21:30:48] <Colin[pi]> k thanks
2903: [21:31:30] <adrexia> css does that because it thinks its being helpful
2904: [21:31:42] <adrexia> for the most part, it does actually make life easier
2905: [21:31:59] <kinglozzer> Colin[pi]: Well it doesn’t seem to happen at all in FF 29 before that change
2906: [21:32:07] <zippy> adrexia: I so grumpy I am going to have to sit down and watch the cricket for a break!
2907: [21:32:07] <Colin[pi]> hmm
2908: [21:32:15] <adrexia> lol
2909: [21:32:16] <zippy> kinglozzer: browserstack.com ?
2910: [21:32:52] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/oDsfi
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2912: [21:33:23] <zippy> display: table; :)
2913: [21:33:29] <zippy> should just use <table>
2914: [21:33:34] <zippy> UncleCheese: sleep well?
2915: [21:33:35] <Ryan-Toast> lol
2916: [21:33:55] <UncleCheese> yeah, nothing last night
2917: [21:33:58] <UncleCheese> that i know of
2918: [21:34:08] <UncleCheese> anyone upgrade to Textual 5 yet?
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2922: [21:36:44] <zippy> UncleCheese: simon_w|work has I think
2923: [21:36:45] <JeremyRoundill> So, I haven't done any async magic with SS yet.
2924: [21:37:09] <zippy> Ryan-Toast: ok, adding in a clearfix has fixed it
2925: [21:37:11] <JeremyRoundill> I've got a method in one of my Pages I'd like to make asynchronous, it's slowing the page load down a fair bit.
2926: [21:37:17] <Ryan-Toast> zippy: yarp :)
2927: [21:37:22] <zippy> feels wrong though
2928: [21:37:27] <mudmonth> can i make a simple label that matches the DO form style (i.e. URLSegment in bold, then url next to it) that just contains a string, like Family $staticString
2929: [21:37:31] <adrexia> that's CSS for you
2930: [21:37:42] <JeremyRoundill> Does SilverStripe have any crazy tricks for this, or do I just pop it in a new page and load that async?
2931: [21:38:22] <antmas> fucking asp menu controls add a clear div by default
2932: [21:38:30] <antmas> >:|
2933: [21:38:58] <adrexia> JeremyRoundill, It's p[retty much just - make a controller method, add it to the allowed actions array, and call that method
2934: [21:39:20] <JeremyRoundill> adrexia: Sick disco. Cheers.
2935: [21:39:26] <adrexia> no problem :()
2936: [21:39:27] <adrexia> :)
2937: [21:39:37] <UncleCheese> dude this is shit
2938: [21:39:46] <antmas> UncleCheese: ?
2939: [21:39:47] <UncleCheese> they haven't revamped it at all
2940: [21:40:07] <UncleCheese> i'm still waiting for the one killer feature they've overlooked
2941: [21:40:35] <UncleCheese> drag and drop an image into the text box, and it automatically gets you a link on an image sharing service
2942: [21:42:00] <zippy> but.. they have added more to the /moti command!
2943: [21:42:25] <zippy> that would be a cool feature
2944: [21:46:47] <UncleCheese> man, you get so much more for your money if you're willing to live in the Hutt
2945: [21:47:15] <UncleCheese> if only SS would move their office to South Wairiapa.. then I'd be living like a king
2946: [21:47:37] <zippy> !important is like the sudo of css eh. like. fuck it !important all things
2947: [21:47:50] <UncleCheese> "Make me a sandwich."
2948: [21:47:52] <UncleCheese> "No."
2949: [21:47:58] <UncleCheese> "sudo Make me a sandwich"
2950: [21:47:58] <zippy> cbf working out why it's not applying... !important bitch
2951: [21:48:34] <adrexia> zippy - except if you important all the things nothing is important
2952: [21:49:12] <adrexia> and... well, it's a bit like saying "fuck future me, that guys a dick"
2953: [21:49:15] <kinglozzer> My fave is stuff like twitter typeahead that adds styles inline, so you _have_ to !important all the things
2954: [21:49:46] <adrexia> "fave"
2955: [21:50:08] <ss23> adrexia: Are you coming tonight btw?
2956: [21:50:15] <adrexia> yeah, my favourite f**k you to future devs is inline important
2957: [21:50:18] <adrexia> ss23 yep
2958: [21:51:44] <adrexia> wait, are you going to be there?
2959: [21:51:49] <adrexia> shit :P
2960: [21:53:24] <ss23> adrexia: :(
2961: [21:53:34] <adrexia> aww, you know I didn't mean it
2962: [21:53:37] <adrexia> I miss you guys
2963: [21:54:25] <jedateach> is it bad to let another server access a user’s session? I need to let an external server make changes stored in a users’s session data.
2964: [21:54:27] <adrexia> also, the guy at gentleman's beans downstairs wants to crash it and help DJ
2965: [21:54:34] <UncleCheese> is there an online tool for creating bootstrap templates?
2966: [21:54:42] <UncleCheese> like draggy-droppy component thingy?
2967: [21:54:47] <Kingy> UncleCheese: heaps
2968: [21:54:49] <adrexia> several
2969: [21:54:50] <UncleCheese> oh?
2970: [21:54:53] <UncleCheese> oh?!
2971: [21:54:57] <adrexia> but ...why?
2972: [21:55:05] <adrexia> its an abomination
2973: [21:55:06] <Kingy> layoutit
2974: [21:55:07] <UncleCheese> i just want to prototype something
2975: [21:55:10] <adrexia> ahh
2976: [21:55:11] <adrexia> :)
2977: [21:55:29] <Kingy> http://www.layoutit.com/
2978: [21:55:32] <adrexia> https://jetstrap.com/
2979: [21:55:42] <UncleCheese> whoa!
2980: [21:56:41] <simon_w|work> zippy, UncleCheese, simon_w has, simon_w|work is Linux
2981: [21:56:49] <adrexia> http://brix.io/
2982: [21:57:02] <UncleCheese> holy crap
2983: [21:57:04] <simon_w|work> Kingy, after I can build it :p
2984: [21:57:10] <UncleCheese> i can't believe there are so many
2985: [21:57:12] <adrexia> there was another that was popular too, but can't rmemeber the name
2986: [21:57:16] <zippy> woah woah woah... what is this magic
2987: [21:57:25] <adrexia> UncleCheese, people love making things
2988: [21:57:27] <adrexia> ;)
2989: [21:57:34] <simon_w|work> UncleCheese, ask tcopeland :p
2990: [21:57:41] <UncleCheese> ?
2991: [21:57:46] <adrexia> but I wouldn't use it to actually make a website
2992: [21:57:57] <simon_w|work> UncleCheese, he likes his tools like that
2993: [21:57:57] <adrexia> fine for wire framing thoguh :)
2994: [21:57:57] <Kingy> yeah
2995: [21:58:03] <UncleCheese> oh ok
2996: [21:58:07] <Kingy> they're pretty average at doing anything half decent
2997: [21:58:10] <UncleCheese> yeah, i was using mockingbird
2998: [21:58:13] <Kingy> good for a start though
2999: [21:58:16] <UncleCheese> but that doesn't output html
3000: [21:58:39] * adrexia nods
3001: [21:58:49] <simon_w|work> Dreamweaver :p
3002: [21:58:52] <adrexia> lol
3003: [21:58:54] <Kingy> simon_w|work: bahaha
3004: [21:58:58] <zippy> haha
3005: [21:59:08] <zippy> frontpage was where it was at
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3008: [22:01:59] <antmas> anyone here collect airpoints?
3009: [22:02:55] <simon_w|work> Yes
3010: [22:03:10] <antmas> simon_w|work: is it worth it?
3011: [22:03:26] <simon_w|work> Well, it's free and happens automatically
3012: [22:03:44] <simon_w|work> Every so often, you can yes them for something
3013: [22:04:20] <antmas> hmmmm
3014: [22:04:32] <antmas> I've had mine for ages and have no idea how many points I have :O
3015: [22:04:56] <simon_w|work> So log in and find out :p
3016: [22:05:43] * antmas has to try remember un/pw
3017: [22:05:46] <antmas> :|
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3019: [22:06:16] <simon_w|work> username is your airpoints number :p
3020: [22:07:08] <antmas> ah true
3021: [22:07:14] * antmas now has to find his card
3022: [22:09:24] <Kingy> zippy: you watching?
3023: [22:09:37] <simon_w|work> Kingy, so, gonna help fund my hosting stuff? :p
3024: [22:09:49] <Kingy> maybe once i get something out of it :P
3025: [22:09:59] <Kingy> I have a dedi server if you need somewhere to host it for now lol
3026: [22:10:06] <Kingy> or general fluffing around
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3029: [22:15:09] <simon_w|work> Kingy, donate enough and you get a massive hosting credit :p
3030: [22:15:27] <Kingy> pfft
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3032: [22:17:44] <zippy> Kingy: yap
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3034: [22:17:57] <markcl> Hello
3035: [22:17:57] <Kingy> not going real good is it
3036: [22:18:06] <zippy> not too flash
3037: [22:18:29] <markcl> How do I manipulate breadcrumbs?
3038: [22:18:43] <markcl> I have a custom controller for a Page, see
3039: [22:18:59] <markcl> and then those routes need to crumb properly
3040: [22:19:01] <willr> markcl you can customize the markup using a BreadcrumbsTemplate.ss
3041: [22:19:12] <markcl> It's not about the markup though
3042: [22:19:17] <markcl> I want to customize the actual items
3043: [22:19:46] <zippy> need a !more-important;
3044: [22:20:13] <willr> define a Breadcrumbs() method on your custom controller then.
3045: [22:20:22] <willr> see SiteTree::Breadcrumbs().
3046: [22:20:37] <markcl> ok, thanks willr
3047: [22:24:13] <zippy> Kingy: :D
3048: [22:24:33] <Kingy> booooom
3049: [22:24:46] <zippy> damn close to a no ball eh
3050: [22:24:54] <Kingy> ah jesus
3051: [22:25:12] * zippy hasn't quite made it out to the office yet, in front of the tv..
3052: [22:28:03] <Kingy> haha
3053: [22:30:06] <antmas> I can imagine these last 4-5 hours are going to drag
3054: [22:30:11] <antmas> :<
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3057: [22:31:34] <zippy> antmas: pretty windy eh
3058: [22:33:29] <antmas> zippy: yeah where did this come from?
3059: [22:33:42] * antmas was planning to have fish and chips at the beach :<
3060: [22:34:02] <ss23> Playing Pretty Lights on the office speakers
3061: [22:34:11] <simon_w|work> Breaking shit
3062: [22:34:11] <ss23> "wow, this is like being in a really really trendy elevator"
3063: [22:34:17] <antmas> ss23: <3 Pretty Lights
3064: [22:34:35] <Kingy> cold win too
3065: [22:34:37] <Kingy> wind
3066: [22:35:01] <antmas> is there any way to not have a streamers cam on for Twitch? or are they like 'hard coded'?
3067: [22:35:13] <simon_w|work> Apparently we have almost no load on a Friday morning
3068: [22:35:18] <antmas> like, is it up to the streamer to have that on or off?
3069: [22:38:05] <simon_w|work> antmas, less twitch, more work :p
3070: [22:38:30] <antmas> simon_w|work: :P
3071: [22:38:38] * simon_w|work is a problem solver!
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3073: [22:41:19] <Mahfuz> Hi everyone
3074: [22:41:35] <simon_w|work> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_AzEeIGznU
3075: [22:41:55] <Kingy> RICHIE MCAWESOMEEEE
3076: [22:42:40] <zippy> Kingy: hehe
3077: [22:43:23] <simon_w|work> Transaction traces: 26.7 s 25.1 s 33.1 s
3078: [22:43:27] <simon_w|work> Those aren't good numbers
3079: [22:43:35] <simon_w|work> Someone should do something about that
3080: [22:44:36] <Mahfuz> I developed two pages with Form. They were working fine. after coding for other functionality when I am trying to open those page in CMS getting this message and the pages are not opening up for editing. The message is - "Notice at line 174 of /var/www/.../framework/dev/Deprecation.php" . What went wrong?
3081: [22:44:50] <zippy> well
3082: [22:44:58] <zippy> there is more to that message
3083: [22:45:06] <zippy> and the more will tell you the issue
3084: [22:45:27] <zippy> check your error log if it seems cut off
3085: [22:45:33] <zippy> Kingy: wonder if he will get 300
3086: [22:45:33] <spronk> hexchat is blinking at me...
3087: [22:46:00] <Kingy> zippy: probably. We'll be all out for 150
3088: [22:46:17] <zippy> Kingy: I mean, i wonder if Vettori will get 300 games
3089: [22:46:20] <zippy> 23 to go
3090: [22:46:28] <Kingy> oh
3091: [22:46:29] <Kingy> hmm
3092: [22:46:37] <Kingy> well if he plays most of the ODIs between now and the world
3093: [22:46:39] <Kingy> and the world cu
3094: [22:46:40] <zippy> I think this will be his last year, not sure if there are enough even with the odis
3095: [22:46:41] <Kingy> then probably
3096: [22:46:42] <Mahfuz> Where can I see the error log please?
3097: [22:46:53] <spronk> https://twitter.com/timdej/status/525361784333815809
3098: [22:46:53] <spronk> lol
3099: [22:46:54] <spronk> love this
3100: [22:47:02] <zippy> Mahfuz: your apache error log
3101: [22:47:07] <Kingy> zippy: he's still farking good
3102: [22:47:12] <spronk> zippy, you may also be able to see it in your browser's network console
3103: [22:47:31] <Mahfuz> ok let me try
3104: [22:47:35] <spronk> vettori is a bit of a cunt
3105: [22:48:18] <simon_w|work> Aha, that's why static assets were still showing up in the access log
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3107: [22:48:33] * simon_w|work makes the access log slightly slower
3108: [22:50:49] <oddnoc> Do template conditionals have negation?
3109: [22:51:12] <oddnoc> nevermind. Yes they do.
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3111: [22:51:55] <travis-ci> silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1069 (3.1 - 7fc5a29 : Loz Calver): The build passed.
3112: [22:51:55] <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/286dfe4d86d2...7fc5a29f3591
3113: [22:51:55] <travis-ci> Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/38872507
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3117: [23:04:25] <Mahfuz> zippy: I am using Plesk. downloaded the error_log file and didn't find any error from today's date
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3119: [23:07:29] <simon_w|work> Crap, how do you javascript?
3120: [23:07:31] * simon_w|work has forgotten
3121: [23:10:22] <Mahfuz> Here is the code of my ContactUsPage - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5449852e2cac1 It was working fine. I worked in other parts of the project for some time. when I wanted to open the page in CMS its not opening showing the error
3122: [23:12:31] <Mahfuz> Can the code in some other places affect on this?
3123: [23:13:08] <simon_w|work> Mahfuz, if you look at the body of the response from the server in your browser's dev tools, you'll see the full error
3124: [23:13:26] <Stomach> simon_w: require('react'); // booya
3125: [23:13:39] <adrexia> "Root.Content.OnSubmission" nested tabs?
3126: [23:16:12] <Mahfuz> ok let me try simon. thanks
3127: [23:19:46] <Mahfuz> are these the causes
3128: [23:19:48] <Mahfuz> </pre><h3>Trace</h3><ul><li><b>Using outdated tab path &quot;Root.Content.OnSubmission&quot;, please use the new location &quot;Root.OnSubmission&quot; instead. Called from .</b> <br /> Deprecation.php:174</li> <li><b>Deprecation::notice(3.0.0,Using outdated tab path &quot;Root.Content.OnSubmission&quot;, please use the new location &quot;Root.OnSubmission&quot; instead,4)</b>
3129: [23:20:27] <Mahfuz> I am using this in Page code $fields->addFieldToTab("Root.Content.OnSubmission", new TextField('Mailto', 'Email submissions to'));
3130: [23:20:40] <mudmonth> how do i make this Dropdown in my dataobject only show items that have a specific attribute
3131: [23:20:41] <Mahfuz> What should I change this to?
3132: [23:21:46] <oddnoc> Mahfuz: The error message tells you: Root.OnSubmission
3133: [23:24:04] <Mahfuz> Thanks everyone. It works now... Learnt a new lesson.
3134: [23:24:26] <oddnoc> :)
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3136: [23:28:32] <markcl> How do you add a checkbox to a GridField summary field?
3137: [23:28:42] <markcl> The checkbox does render on the edit Gridfield page.
3138: [23:28:57] <markcl> But I want it to be editable on the Summary field.
3139: [23:31:53] <adrexia> markcl I've needed that before too, but never got around to making it
3140: [23:32:43] <simon_w|work> markcl, with a custom component. Have a look at gridfieldrelationhandler for an example
3141: [23:33:06] <adrexia> http://fvue.nl/wiki/SilverStripe:_How_to_add_a_checkbox_column_to_a_gridfield
3142: [23:33:09] <adrexia> might help?
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3145: [23:57:05] <jordank> hi guys, how can i check what version of SilverStripe a 2.4 site is using
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