#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 4 October 2014

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13: [02:57:22] <ss23> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I left one of my EC2 instances turned on over the month!
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26: [04:53:10] <micmania1> Anybody know when $dependencies get applied to properties?
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61: [09:11:05] <Adesso> another quiet day in paradise ...
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72: [10:20:35] <Zri> Hi everyone
73: [10:20:44] <Zri> I have a rather weird problem
74: [10:20:58] <Zri> I am saving large large chunks of JSON into a text field of a dataObject
75: [10:21:21] <Zri> but at first I couldngt get more then 66556 characters. Changed to MyISAM
76: [10:21:28] <Zri> and it did the trick, and I extended text to make longtext
77: [10:21:48] <Zri> but again I am limited, and the write fails and bnrakes the process without any notification or error
78: [10:22:25] <Zri> anyone has any ideas?
79: [10:23:00] <Zri> I am using MySQL default settings, dont know if it could be its settings or something
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84: [10:46:09] <ss23> LONGTEXT is longest, Zri
85: [10:46:13] <ss23> If that doesn't do it, store it on the filesystem isntead?
86: [10:46:18] <ss23> You can store things a big as you need on disk :)
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88: [10:58:31] <micmania1> ss23: GO TO BED
89: [11:03:16] * oceanmountain is now known as ocmnt
90: [11:04:24] <ocmnt> Zri, can you call a query to get the json so you don´t have to store it?
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94: [11:13:17] <guzzlefry> Isn't LONGTEXT around 2GB? :P
95: [11:13:35] <Nightjar> how is everyone today?
96: [11:14:29] * thehacksaw waves from across the room :)
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98: [11:16:27] <Nightjar> gidday chap
99: [11:18:18] * Adesso is a little hung over ..
100: [11:18:30] <Adesso> and having a tuff time seeing the Projector :P
101: [11:18:57] <Adesso> Projection
102: [11:19:09] <Nightjar> Adesso: I noticed :p
103: [11:19:10] <thehacksaw> What projection? I thought that was a lamp
104: [11:19:19] <ocmnt> haha
105: [11:19:25] <ocmnt> everyone in linz is hangover, or what? :D
106: [11:19:34] <Nightjar> what.
107: [11:20:05] <Adesso> well... at the very least tired
108: [11:20:24] <ocmnt> seems I am not the only one hung over then, though I am still at home
109: [11:20:30] <Nightjar> I got to bed at about midnight so not too bad today.
110: [11:21:12] <Adesso> I manaaged it @ 1
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112: [11:23:55] <Adesso> finally
113: [11:24:11] * Adesso needs more coffee
114: [11:24:15] <wmk> ;)
115: [11:30:30] <Nightjar> this talk reminds me of a more modern version of hfriedlander‘s entwine one from wdcnz 2012
116: [11:31:57] * ss23 yawns
117: [11:32:03] <ss23> Doing a talk on SilverStripe at some point
118: [11:32:19] <ss23> Should write slides
119: [11:35:08] <Nightjar> ss23 could just adapt mine if it's as an intro
120: [11:35:19] <ss23> Linky?
121: [11:35:28] <Nightjar> guessing it's more SEC focussed though
122: [11:35:33] <ss23> I have the one I did at a SilverStripe meetup, so thinking of adapting that
123: [11:35:37] <ss23> Yeah, 100% sec
124: [11:35:39] <ss23> Is for the PHP meetup
125: [11:35:42] <ss23> http://www.meetup.com/PHP-Usergroup-Wellington/events/209177322/
126: [11:36:03] <Nightjar> ss23 tithing.com/nightmare
127: [11:36:23] <Nightjar> omgwtf autocorrect ffffffffuuuuuu
128: [11:36:34] <Nightjar> git hub.
129: [11:36:41] <ss23> o.o
130: [11:36:44] <ss23> What?
131: [11:36:47] <ss23> tithing?
132: [11:36:52] <ss23> bro.
133: [11:37:03] <Nightjar> git hub dot com / night jar
134: [11:37:23] <ss23> https://github.com/NightJar/talk-silverstripe_intro
135: [11:37:25] <ss23> This one?
136: [11:37:28] <Nightjar> yes.
137: [11:37:35] <ss23> I will look at it :D
138: [11:37:41] <ss23> Normally I just present with Google Docs though :P
139: [11:37:44] <ss23> Github is an ugly format...
140: [11:37:47] <ss23> Though easy for sharing slides I guess
141: [11:37:48] <ss23> :IO
142: [11:38:46] <Nightjar> the worst part is that I have utopian correction disabled in the options already >_<
143: [11:39:24] <ss23> Utopian...?
144: [11:39:55] * Adesso needs help to setup his VirtualBox
145: [11:39:59] <Adesso> anybody ?
146: [11:40:11] <Nightjar> OK.
147: [11:40:37] <wmk> LOL
148: [11:40:44] <wmk> tithing == github ;)
149: [11:40:57] <wmk> you need a decent keyboard, Nightjar
150: [11:41:00] <Nightjar> double click the installer
151: [11:41:56] <wmk> Adesso, wait for the workshop *G*
152: [11:42:03] <wmk> just a joke
153: [11:42:26] <Nightjar> and click next a few times Adesso
154: [11:42:35] <Adesso> if I can just get my Network Card to work...
155: [11:42:42] <Nightjar> o I c
156: [11:42:57] <Nightjar> turn around then
157: [11:43:46] <Nightjar> perhaps wait for lunch first
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159: [11:54:03] <Nightjar> disconnecting for battery life
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163: [12:19:03] <Zri> guys longtext is supposed to be 16GB
164: [12:19:10] <Zri> sorry 4GB
165: [12:19:23] <Zri> my json not even 2MB
166: [12:19:39] <Zri> I can make queries for it but this is cachig for another system so I have to store it
167: [12:19:53] <Zri> filesystem I can use but this is a workarround and probably slower
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173: [12:37:50] <Zri> I am just wondering why I cant store large chunks of text in the longtext field. Is it a limit through ORM or is it something in mysql.
174: [12:40:12] <ss23> Zri: No idea, you'd have to investigate manually I think
175: [12:41:07] <Zri> or ven how to see an error or what is worng, since execution just stops. I placed debug messages and its at the write of the data. ALso debugging led me there but with no meaningful error, just stops working
176: [12:44:58] <ocmnt> zri, timeout perhaps? what does your errorlog says about the timeout?
177: [12:54:48] <wmk> hi SphereSilver
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179: [13:10:01] <Nightjar> vagrant init
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181: [13:13:12] <vagrant> Nightjar, init
182: [13:13:28] <ss23> ss23, lol
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186: [13:14:02] <ss23> lol wmk
187: [13:14:05] <ss23> NICK TAKEN
188: [13:14:15] <wmk> registered nick ;)
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190: [13:21:13] <codetoday> anyone here at 2am?
191: [13:22:23] <ocmnt> its 15:00
192: [13:22:28] <ocmnt> 15:22 actually here
193: [13:22:34] <codetoday> heh, fair enough!
194: [13:24:40] <wmk> not really... 3pm? and still a workshop and a talk to do
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196: [13:24:47] <wmk> well, we're in middle of the workshop
197: [13:25:07] <ocmnt> hm, anyone knows how to get rid of the 403 on vendor (composer) files/dir
198: [13:25:08] <codetoday> heh, a silverstripe workshop?
199: [13:25:25] <ocmnt> vhost says <dir ..> Allow from all Require All
200: [13:25:26] <ocmnt> but still not workin
201: [13:25:28] <wmk> a meetup in europe, linz austria
202: [13:25:32] <wmk> www.silverstripe-europe.org
203: [13:25:41] <codetoday> ah nice
204: [13:25:53] <codetoday> I'm fairly new to SS
205: [13:25:55] <wmk> codetoday, afaike vendor should be blocked by .htacess. are you using apache?
206: [13:26:24] <codetoday> that should be to ocmnt*
207: [13:26:57] <wmk> so - why do you want to access /vendor/ ????
208: [13:27:02] <ocmnt> codetoday, I think it has to do with my vhost setting
209: [13:27:13] <wmk> it's hidden by default in .htaccess and it should be hidden
210: [13:27:13] <ocmnt> oh wait, vendor is protected by ss right?
211: [13:27:30] <ocmnt> but how to access requirements put there by composer?
212: [13:27:30] <wmk> yup
213: [13:27:43] <wmk> hmmm...
214: [13:27:57] <wmk> didn't run into that yet as everything is installed in root...
215: [13:27:57] <ocmnt> rename composer vendor dir?
216: [13:28:51] <wmk> RewriteRule ^vendor(/|$) - [F,L,NC]
217: [13:29:02] <wmk> oh, you can easily change this in your .htaccess
218: [13:29:21] <ocmnt> I know, but it means the vendor/ protection is lost :P
219: [13:29:25] <ocmnt> but for dev it will suit I guess
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221: [13:32:10] <Nightjar> yes
222: [13:32:14] <wmk> well, if you really really need to access stuff inside /vendor/ from outside you have to make a decicion
223: [13:32:21] <wmk> Nightjar, really?
224: [13:32:35] <Nightjar> 2:32PM
225: [13:32:45] <Nightjar> WMD lol aural
226: [13:32:56] <Nightjar> correct
227: [13:32:58] <wmk> it's 5 o clock somewhere!
228: [13:33:05] <Nightjar> indeed
229: [13:33:12] * wmk headbangs
230: [13:33:29] <wmk> Nightjar, tried vagrant on your tablet?
231: [13:33:29] <Nightjar> I got disconnected :(
232: [13:33:52] <Nightjar> nope, this is a ruby free tablet!
233: [13:34:20] <wmk> no vagrant-npm clone?
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235: [13:35:18] <codetoday> anyone here use vagrant+silverstripe?
236: [13:35:21] <Nightjar> ha
237: [13:35:34] <Nightjar> codetoday yes
238: [13:35:35] <wmk> codetoday, EVERYONE HERE is just using vagrant
239: [13:35:41] <codetoday> ;P
240: [13:35:47] <wmk> as it's a vagrant workshop hold by the wonderful Zauberfisch
241: [13:35:53] <Nightjar> literally almost true.
242: [13:35:57] <codetoday> oh, true
243: [13:35:58] <codetoday> nice
244: [13:36:05] <wmk> Nightjar, you're exceptionally as always
245: [13:36:11] <Nightjar> no vagrant for android thankfully
246: [13:36:23] <wmk> 25 - 1 persons
247: [13:37:37] <Fisix_AIX> http://goo.gl/OJxrqp
248: [13:38:01] <wmk> Fisix_AIX, broken website?
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251: [14:04:23] <SphereSilver> wait, wait, you're actually talking here?!
252: [14:07:14] <wmk> ?
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254: [14:16:28] <Nightjar> Zri: akaik SS‘s Text class makes a TEXT type field, which is only 2MB afaik.
255: [14:16:54] <Nightjar> IIRC*
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257: [14:19:16] <Nightjar> yes SphereSilver, occasionally :-)
258: [14:20:27] <Nightjar> although my battery is getting low so it might be time to stop.
259: [14:25:17] <Nightjar> SphereSilver: BTW, plz retweet my exposure awareness tweet :-) the talk may be useful for others
260: [14:26:09] <Nightjar> ciao for now folks :-)
261: [14:26:43] <wmk> http://goo.gl/5PrTNR
262: [14:27:29] <thehacksaw> In case you're really getting into Vagrant, check out https://puphpet.com/ - you can create a provisioning file in an online GUI. S'good
263: [14:28:00] <wmk> thehacksaw, nice. better for working is configure once and create a box out of it
264: [14:28:24] <thehacksaw> wmk: definitely
265: [14:28:27] <wmk> then use this box... though for creating the box puphpet or something similar would be great
266: [14:29:22] * Adesso is done for today..
267: [14:29:26] <Adesso> I like vagrant ..
268: [14:29:35] <Adesso> really kick-ass
269: [14:29:37] <wmk> Adesso, found a new love?
270: [14:29:52] * wmk kicks Adesso with a big, ehem, well...
271: [14:30:20] <Adesso> ouch ouch..
272: [14:30:28] <thehacksaw> Haha
273: [14:30:29] <Adesso> behave .. or your not getting any Beer
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286: [17:18:49] <SphereSilver> \o sminnee haven't seen you in a while! O_o
287: [17:19:54] <SphereSilver> does anyone know Nightjar's twitter handle? It's not @nightjar it seems.
288: [17:21:14] <sminnee> @nightjarnz
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304: [21:11:30] <Zauberfisch> alright
305: [21:11:49] <Zauberfisch> its been wonderful
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309: [21:30:30] <Zauberfisch> ohai UncleCheese
310: [21:30:38] <Zauberfisch> so, you've seem the photo?
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312: [21:35:17] <Zauberfisch> hey camfindlay
313: [21:35:19] <Zauberfisch> just got home
314: [21:35:26] <Zauberfisch> all over now
315: [21:35:34] <Zauberfisch> and it went extremely well I'd think
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317: [21:36:07] <Zauberfisch> I'm gonna need a day or two to get some rest now
318: [21:36:09] <Zauberfisch> but ...
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320: [21:36:26] <Zauberfisch> camfindlay: you got my earlier messages?
321: [21:36:51] <camfindlay> on IRC? I’ll go look at the logs :)
322: [21:37:04] <Zauberfisch> just the last 2 minutes
323: [21:37:40] <camfindlay> sweet yes I have been following along at home :)
324: [21:37:50] <camfindlay> looks like a success
325: [21:37:52] <Zauberfisch> ... but we should chat in the next couple of days
326: [21:37:56] <camfindlay> well done you guys
327: [21:38:00] <Zauberfisch> also sent some shirts your way with sam
328: [21:38:07] <camfindlay> nice one thanks
329: [21:38:25] <Zauberfisch> team effort, thanks for your help as well ;)
330: [21:38:37] <camfindlay> Did Lukas from Switzerland meetup group make it along?
331: [21:39:20] <camfindlay> my pleasure glad I could help you guys out
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333: [21:40:16] <camfindlay> Did Anselm get any video of speakers? Would be cool to watch those back here in NZ :)
334: [21:40:59] <Zauberfisch> yes to both
335: [21:41:02] <Zauberfisch> lukas took 10ish shirts with him for his meetup group
336: [21:41:17] <camfindlay> great :)
337: [21:41:28] <camfindlay> tshirts look really good
338: [21:41:35] <Zauberfisch> videos have been recored on friday of most talks, same as sound. but it will take us a couple of days, if not more to get that worked over
339: [21:41:45] <Zauberfisch> yeah, I am pretty happy with the shirts aswell
340: [21:42:09] <camfindlay> yeah sure thing, I have done a bit of video editing in the past so know the drill :)
341: [21:42:52] <Zauberfisch> but we actually had audio recording built in from the venue. so if we didn't screw it up, we should have pretty good audio
342: [21:43:00] <camfindlay> was there any people that made it from Germany? I think that meetup group needs to be resurected
343: [21:43:14] <Zauberfisch> yeah, there where a hand full actually
344: [21:43:35] <camfindlay> nice, perhaps I can get some contacts from you guys for them
345: [21:43:39] <Zauberfisch> sure
346: [21:43:48] <Zauberfisch> but lets do that somewhen next week
347: [21:43:58] <camfindlay> yes
348: [21:44:08] <camfindlay> sounds good
349: [21:45:33] <camfindlay> ok I’m off to study. Talk later Zauberfisch :)
350: [21:45:51] <Zauberfisch> and I am off to bed
351: [21:45:57] <Zauberfisch> need to get some rest now
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365: [22:56:31] <SphereSilver> I'm back!
366: [22:56:41] <SphereSilver> I made it. Finishing up as we speak :D
367: [23:04:27] <SphereSilver> Hey, guys?
368: [23:04:35] <SphereSilver> Anselm and I met Zauberfisch! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzIg5kfIEAAUkeR.jpg:large
369: [23:04:38] <SphereSilver> He's real!
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377: [23:50:26] <SphereSilver> Hey Anselm_ shouldn't you be sleeping?
378: [23:50:40] <SphereSilver> Zauberfisch: Go to bed. Now.
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