#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 31 August 2014

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5: [00:51:56] <simon_w> Yay! Holding page is up! http://91carriage.com
6: [01:13:37] <willr> What a logo.
7: [01:13:48] <willr> Totally keep that
8: [01:14:25] <willr> Let me know once you’re up and running. Can cross link from silverstripehq
9: [01:15:23] <willr> Had pretty decent update of the premium support which is good.
10: [01:17:01] <simon_w> It's taken from wikicommons or whatever it is
11: [01:17:12] <simon_w> Will probably keep it, cause screw designing my own one :p
12: [01:20:14] <simon_w> Oh good, no one stole the twitter account
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14: [01:27:43] <simon_w> willr, probably won't be able to actually work on it until after the wedding, but this should help stop people bugging me about it for a while
15: [01:29:44] <willr> Well if you get too lazy to design a holding page just get a premade theme like http://demo.pixeful.com/select.php?theme=cloudwp
16: [01:29:44] <irogue_> simon_w: nah, it probably won't :P
17: [01:30:14] <simon_w> irogue_, but there's an email address! People should email me, then give me money :p
18: [01:32:12] <simon_w> Hmm, may have to shrink my Tweetbot columns soon
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59: [09:51:55] <Pyromanik> guiz guiz, simplexml is str_replace(' ', "\n", $thingThatGetsAsserted) :(
60: [09:52:03] <Pyromanik> makes test fail, halp, idk
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63: [09:53:21] <Pyromanik> hullo simon_w, fancy seeing you here.
64: [09:53:47] <Pyromanik> I hope you're idling :>
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66: [10:31:14] <simon_w> Pyromanik, I was
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69: [11:04:17] <simon_w> Aww, no one's given me money for my hosting service yet
70: [11:04:30] <Pyromanik> :<
71: [11:04:34] <simon_w> And I suppose I should plan what to say in the video I need to make...
72: [11:04:41] <Pyromanik> video?
73: [11:05:12] <simon_w> http://www.gofundme.com/91carriage
74: [11:05:17] <simon_w> Crowd funding it!
75: [11:07:27] <ss23> I thought about doing hosting, too!
76: [11:07:33] <ss23> but I think I could do it cheaper than you
77: [11:07:34] <ss23> :D
78: [11:07:42] <ss23> With much more limited functionality of course
79: [11:10:20] <simon_w> Oh, I could do it for cheaper if this laptop wasn't so crap
80: [11:11:06] <Pyromanik> rofl simon_w, sweet shirt!
81: [11:13:17] <ss23> simon_w: I mean the actual hosting
82: [11:13:38] <simon_w> ss23, and how can you know that when I haven't priced my hosting?
83: [11:13:41] <Pyromanik> a physical host like.
84: [11:14:00] <ss23> simon_w: I'm guessing
85: [11:14:01] <ss23> :D
86: [11:14:05] <ss23> Hence "I think"
87: [11:14:07] <ss23> rather than "I know"
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90: [12:07:42] <Pyromanik> I think the test suite is fucked. That's what I think.
91: [12:07:55] <Pyromanik> every time I go to run it there's some new error.
92: [12:08:15] <Pyromanik> I want to fix them to start dev work, but I never get round to it because I'm always fixing bugs in the f'n tests!
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99: [13:23:44] <ss23> http://test-silverstripe.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/
100: [13:23:49] <ss23> Boom, statically published on S3
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105: [16:16:50] <Zauberfisch> ss23: sweet!
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107: [17:54:05] <shellbackpacific> userforms module…need to have the the "to" field come from the form. Not clear on how to do this
108: [17:54:08] <shellbackpacific> any hints?
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111: [18:23:58] <shellbackpacific> nevermind got it
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113: [18:46:26] <Zauberfisch> hey guys
114: [18:46:35] <Zauberfisch> so
115: [18:46:38] <Zauberfisch> silverstripe europe
116: [18:47:03] <Zauberfisch> somebody feeling like doing a beginner workshop at the meetup/unconference? :D
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119: [19:04:26] <Zauberfisch> ohai Anselm
120: [19:05:40] <Zauberfisch> Anselm:
121: [19:06:30] <Anselm> hey Zauberfisch
122: [19:06:42] <Anselm> thanks for showing me this great irc client
123: [19:06:47] <Zauberfisch> :D
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128: [20:38:26] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1052 (3.1 - ae4601b : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
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130: [20:38:26] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/34051787
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134: [20:46:15] <Pyromanik> hi Ryan-Toast
135: [20:46:26] <Ryan-Toast> Morning, Pyro.
136: [20:46:30] <Ryan-Toast> How are you?
137: [20:46:46] <Pyromanik> I'm ok.
138: [20:46:59] <Pyromanik> A bit sad because I'm shit at Quake again. But otherwise ok I guess.
139: [20:47:06] <Pyromanik> Oh, and I've got too much shit to do. That sucks.
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141: [20:47:15] <Pyromanik> how about you?
142: [20:47:19] <Ryan-Toast> lol, oh Quake. So much fun.
143: [20:47:24] <Pyromanik> yes.
144: [20:47:31] <Ryan-Toast> Have you been playing the browser version?
145: [20:47:42] <Pyromanik> I was never _that_ good at it, but certainly much better than I am now!
146: [20:47:55] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, been playing since quakeworld. signs point to yes.
147: [20:47:57] <Pyromanik> :P
148: [20:48:05] <Ryan-Toast> :P good stuff.
149: [20:48:18] <Ryan-Toast> I play when I get home with mcdonalds when I’m drunk.
150: [20:48:19] <Pyromanik> well, not continuiously I guess, thus the shittyness
151: [20:48:29] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, hahahhaha, I've done that.
152: [20:48:46] <Pyromanik> still surprising that there's not much out there still that surpasses it at al
153: [20:48:47] <Pyromanik> l
154: [20:49:20] <Pyromanik> classic ut is good, 2k4 was ok but a bit meh, quake still just kicking along.
155: [20:50:25] <Pyromanik> well, until the most recent patch when they decided they should alter a 16 year old game that has stood the test of time to make it more like COD
156: [20:50:29] <Pyromanik> that's a bit shit.
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158: [20:53:03] <Pyromanik> dammit irogue hurry up and get to work so I can delete my branch.
159: [20:54:47] <zippy> Moring
160: [20:55:00] <Pyromanik> hi
161: [20:55:02] <Pyromanik> 2u
162: [20:55:08] <Pyromanik> zippy,
163: [20:55:14] <Pyromanik> :)
164: [20:55:16] <zippy> Pyromanik
165: [20:55:25] <Pyromanik> yes?
166: [20:55:29] <zippy> hi
167: [20:55:33] <Pyromanik> hi!
168: [20:58:35] <zippy> audio cable on my speakers is starting to fail (need to twist it for both speakers.....) why can't anyone make something like this anymore.. http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/creative-i-trigue/
169: [20:58:41] <zippy> http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=363926 just looks shit
170: [20:59:01] <Pyromanik> it _IS_ shit Austin!
171: [20:59:49] <Pyromanik> although that said, was thinking about getting a pair of them.
172: [20:59:56] <Pyromanik> but thought I'd rather go to Italy first.
173: [21:00:37] <zippy> http://www.edifier-international.com/products/edifier-image/exclaim that looks bit too weird
174: [21:03:19] <zippy> god damn it
175: [21:03:44] <zippy> why do people make such chunky shit, and anything that isn't chunky is $500usd!
176: [21:04:08] <zippy> OMG
177: [21:04:20] <zippy> I just realised.... I can replace the broken cable :)
178: [21:04:36] * zippy hugs his 12 year old creative speakers
179: [21:05:27] <Pyromanik> zippy, well, at least you can browse easily: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/search-keywords/xx_xx_xx_xx_xx/fucking%2Bspeakers%2Bfor%2Bmy%2Bcomputer%2Byou%2Buseless%2Bcunt%2Bof%2Ba%2Bmenu/xx-criteria.html
180: [21:05:56] <zippy> mmm all shit
181: [21:06:31] <Pyromanik> you have the option of 'hi fi systems, speaker docks for your iphone, or fuckoff and come in store because we have them but we don't like to advertise it.'
182: [21:07:03] <Pyromanik> Oh oh oh, I see.
183: [21:07:08] <Pyromanik> They come under "bags".
184: [21:07:12] <Pyromanik> for laptops. -.-
185: [21:07:26] <zippy> oh dick smith, I love your 200% markup
186: [21:07:41] <Pyromanik> but point is zippy, check this shit out; http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/accessories-and-bags/pc-speakers/harman-kardon-soundsticks-iii-2-1-pc-speakers-clear-08843639-pdt.html
187: [21:07:43] <Pyromanik> lol
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189: [21:08:02] <zippy> Pyromanik: thats some freaky shit!
190: [21:08:08] <zippy> look good
191: [21:08:10] <Pyromanik> hahahah ikr
192: [21:08:20] <Pyromanik> micmania1, merge my shit!
193: [21:08:29] <micmania1> you merge it!
194: [21:09:02] <Pyromanik> I did already!
195: [21:09:17] <Pyromanik> want it merged to core though, because fuck tests that fail for no reason.
196: [21:11:01] <Pyromanik> zippy, but yeah, scrolling down the list like, you can see that pretty much everything like you posted up before: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/accessories-and-bags/pc-speakers/318_3062_30081_xx_xx/xx-criteria.html
197: [21:11:27] <Pyromanik> except a couple of other rando brands I've not heard of before, like sandstrom
198: [21:11:30] <zippy> yea those sticks might be a go, thanks thou
199: [21:11:42] <Pyromanik> sticks?
200: [21:12:03] <zippy> maybe even http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/accessories-and-bags/pc-speakers/edifier-aurora-2-1-pc-speakers-06797605-pdt.html
201: [21:12:26] <zippy> harman kardon sound sticks
202: [21:13:37] <zippy> looks like I just need a $5 cable :D
203: [21:13:46] <zippy> (or $14 at dick smith! pft)
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205: [21:17:22] <Kingy> morning
206: [21:17:31] <zippy> morning
207: [21:18:00] <Kingy> how you doing zippy
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209: [21:21:25] <Pyromanik> zippy, you seriously gonna buy speakers that look like a cross between the flying saucer and the robot from lost in space?
210: [21:22:21] <zippy> Pyromanik: it's on my short list.... beats half the other shit out there. the flying saucer would sit under the desk anyway
211: [21:22:22] <zippy> but
212: [21:22:30] <zippy> I have found I just need a $5 cable, so I am good for now
213: [21:22:43] <Pyromanik> Eh? They're not 3.5mm or something?
214: [21:23:14] <zippy> thats the cable thats naffed, 3.5mm cable. I didn't realise I could simply unplug the other end and swap out the cable, hahaha
215: [21:23:36] <zippy> thought it was hardwired in
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218: [21:27:55] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: you busy on october the 3rd?
219: [21:28:32] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, yep, would love to come and visit you and sminnee, but I'll be in Italy (so closer than usual :<) on holiday with the missus.
220: [21:28:52] <Zauberfisch> oh noes D:
221: [21:28:57] <Pyromanik> you giving a talk Zauberfisch?
222: [21:29:01] <Zauberfisch> probably
223: [21:29:04] <Zauberfisch> and a workshop
224: [21:29:06] <Pyromanik> cool :>
225: [21:29:09] <Pyromanik> oh sweet
226: [21:29:16] <Pyromanik> with video? :P
227: [21:29:44] <Zauberfisch> probably not
228: [21:29:45] <Zauberfisch> no idea
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230: [21:30:54] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: that makes me sad
231: [21:31:02] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: you should do a detour
232: [21:31:05] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, yeah, makes me sad too.
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234: [21:31:15] <Pyromanik> I'd love to, but... already booked :<
235: [21:31:49] <Pyromanik> you should just take a road trip to like... venice and we'll all meet up there :P
236: [21:32:00] <Pyromanik> haha
237: [21:34:19] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: sure you can't just take a day off your holliday? :P
238: [21:34:31] <Zauberfisch> its not that far from itally
239: [21:34:34] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, sadly... would love to.
240: [21:35:28] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, probably the fuck'n worst part is that if the missus were here we could discuss it and I could probably get it through. But... she's not.
241: [21:36:22] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, where would I be going anyway, jsut from interest? Maybe I can still try (unlikely).
242: [21:37:39] <Zauberfisch> still working out the details, but there will be free thsirts :D
243: [21:38:09] <Pyromanik> haha, I've still got some of them owed to me!
244: [21:38:11] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
245: [21:38:29] <Pyromanik> I've got the dragon now, looking to complete the triplet with the boat and the heart :>
246: [21:38:36] <Pyromanik> haha
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250: [21:44:28] <Pyromanik> willr, you have the button power!
251: [21:44:37] <Pyromanik> I wanna del my branch, just merge it plox
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255: [21:49:32] <Zauberfisch> but there already is a talk about ss on nginx, I am doing a vagrant workshop, Anselm is probably going to talk about automated deployment
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258: [21:53:02] <Zauberfisch> there will hopefully be a parallel track with a silverstripe beginners workshop next to the adavanced talks
259: [21:55:07] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: you can send your girl to the beginner workshop :P
260: [21:55:41] <Pyromanik> haha Zauberfisch - I'm trying to get her into coding as it is! :P
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262: [21:55:59] <Zauberfisch> tell her she gets the chance to meat the awesome zauberfisch
263: [21:56:01] <Pyromanik> not sure if throwing her in the deep end is all that good an idea xD
264: [21:56:03] <Zauberfisch> who wouldn't want that
265: [21:56:04] <Pyromanik> haha
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267: [21:57:08] <Pyromanik> oh shit, it's 11pm!
268: [21:57:11] <Pyromanik> ffs :<
269: [21:58:03] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: its not the deep end
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271: [21:58:11] <Zauberfisch> its sort of the middle end I guess
272: [21:59:02] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, yeh, still... not the 'this is a variable' end either :P
273: [21:59:28] * Kingy is now known as Kingy[a]
274: [22:01:05] <Zauberfisch> true
275: [22:01:38] <Zauberfisch> here is another alternative pitch: "2 hollidays in one: you get to see itally and austria"
276: [22:01:59] <Zauberfisch> she can checkout linz while you visit the conference
277: [22:02:16] <Zauberfisch> what city are you going to?
278: [22:02:20] <Zauberfisch> in intally
279: [22:02:21] <Pyromanik> oh... Kinglozzer already made my PR for me :<
280: [22:02:23] <Pyromanik> oh well
281: [22:02:26] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch, Milan
282: [22:02:35] <Pyromanik> but that's a week before you're talking.
283: [22:02:48] <Pyromanik> we'll probably be in Naples or something by then.
284: [22:05:13] <Pyromanik> ooh, chillu is making me confused.
285: [22:05:14] <Pyromanik> halp.
286: [22:05:21] <Pyromanik> it's too late, I need sleep.
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289: [22:09:12] <Kingy> So apparently I can't export my user table to csv because the allowed memory size is being exhausted
290: [22:09:23] <Kingy> is there anyway to limit the export to X amount every time
291: [22:10:28] <Pyromanik> increase memory limit, export csv, make manager happy, decrease memory limit.
292: [22:10:46] <Kingy> unfortunately not my server and I don't have access
293: [22:10:48] <Pyromanik> oh, skipped out the all important: convert csv into xlsx step
294: [22:11:07] <Kingy> but yes that is one option
295: [22:11:22] <Pyromanik> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/1zpe
296: [22:11:47] <Kingy> lol nice
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300: [22:40:08] <zippy> morning simon_w
301: [22:40:19] <simon_w> Morning zippy
302: [22:40:28] <Pyromanik> simon_w, it's not that framework doesn't work anymore when named eg. sapphire... seems to go ok. But the test sure didn't.
303: [22:41:00] <Pyromanik> most (if not all) requirements are usually done in the code, so FRAMEWORK_DIR becomes accessible.
304: [22:41:17] <Pyromanik> I'm not aware of any requirements from templates in core code.
305: [22:41:26] <simon_w> That's good
306: [22:41:57] <Pyromanik> so in theory it's good to merge... once I add a semi irrelevant //TODO: it seems.
307: [22:42:31] <Pyromanik> But I don't know if that's on the dev radar at all or not... so I'm not convinced I should put it in.
308: [22:43:08] <Pyromanik> if it's on a milestone then sure. If it's just speculation that perhaps maybe one day it might be a thing... then it should probably get in line behind themedJS()
309: [22:43:20] <Pyromanik> ;)
310: [22:43:40] <Pyromanik> anyway, it's quarter to midnight, so I have to sleep instead of fixing/arguing about that.
311: [22:46:36] <simon_w> zippy, there you go: http://91carriage.com :p
312: [22:49:08] <zippy> simon_w: the chart says 3% funded but $0 :)
313: [22:49:46] <Kingy> simon_w: how much?
314: [22:50:16] <zippy> if you drop the requirements of a new dev machine, then it will be cheaper then 10k :)
315: [22:50:21] <simon_w> zippy, I see 0.5% and $50
316: [22:50:44] <simon_w> zippy, maybe. I would need noticeably more dev time
317: [22:50:52] <simon_w> Kingy, for what?
318: [22:51:33] <Kingy> hosting
319: [22:51:33] <Pyromanik> hosting, I presume.
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321: [22:52:12] <Pyromanik> Fuck'n hell. There's some ditzy woman in America that keeps giving out my fucking email to everyone thinking it's hers (or her husband's, presumably).
322: [22:52:32] <Pyromanik> I've had a few job offers, fucking photos of kids at camp, all kinds of sht.
323: [22:52:46] <Pyromanik> I'm all WHEN WILL THEY FUCKING REALISE
324: [22:53:08] <simon_w> Kingy, haven't decided yet. Looking at no more than $7/month for the entry level.
325: [22:53:16] <Pyromanik> Surely if you get it wrong once, you check it and get it right the next time, not give it out to more people wrong.
326: [22:53:43] <simon_w> Then, once economy of scale kicks in, is likely to be able to drop
327: [22:54:00] <Pyromanik> hmm, quite affordable simon_w.
328: [22:54:08] <simon_w> Indeed
329: [22:54:11] <Pyromanik> so uhh... where hosted though?
330: [22:54:24] <Pyromanik> Aus? NZ? Global ocean cloud farm?
331: [22:54:36] <Pyromanik> RimuOcean?
332: [22:54:38] <Pyromanik> :P
333: [22:55:24] <Kingy> google drone?
334: [22:55:45] <Pyromanik> I take it that price is looking to be per site (as per the nature of SS installs)?
335: [22:57:14] <simon_w> Will have options for Amsterdam, San Francisco, New York, London, Singapore, Tokyo, Newark, Atlanta, Dallas, Fremont
336: [22:57:19] <simon_w> Yeah, per site
337: [22:57:34] <Kingy> simon_w: nothing in oceania
338: [22:57:34] <Kingy> ?
339: [22:57:39] <Pyromanik> UK law states UK data must be hosted in UK.
340: [22:57:47] <simon_w> Kingy, far too expensive
341: [22:58:00] <Kingy> that's a shame
342: [22:58:04] <simon_w> Could offer it, but would be a premium
343: [22:58:06] <Pyromanik> Kingy, yeh, seen the prices of hosting he... fuck, round home?
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345: [22:58:19] <Kingy> yes
346: [22:58:27] <Kingy> i've got a dedi in the states
347: [22:58:30] <Pyromanik> start at $1 a day for cloud servers, but that's fuck all of nothing you get.
348: [22:58:30] <Kingy> suiting me fine right now lol
349: [22:58:39] <Pyromanik> Kingy, subject to US law though.
350: [22:59:01] <Pyromanik> which is the kicker most people don't realise.
351: [22:59:08] <simon_w> Kingy, I've started hosting in Singapore, and you can barely notice from NZ
352: [22:59:23] <Pyromanik> mmm, Singapore is on the right edge of the world.
353: [22:59:30] <Pyromanik> only just over 100 ping iirc.
354: [22:59:31] <Pyromanik> 120 ish
355: [22:59:37] <Kingy> Yeah, I just setup cPanel/SolusVM.. running nicely
356: [22:59:45] <Pyromanik> yeah... but fuck'n cpanel.
357: [22:59:49] <Pyromanik> the hell were you thinking?
358: [23:00:02] <Pyromanik> If you're going with your own server, take the time to get it right.
359: [23:00:05] <Pyromanik> learn something new.
360: [23:00:07] <simon_w> Oh yeah, I'm going to be going for a custom control panel
361: [23:00:12] <simon_w> That's where most of the dev time goes
362: [23:00:18] <Kingy> Pyromanik: it's quick and easy and what people know
363: [23:00:21] <Pyromanik> and don't fall into the shit cpanel/plesk trap
364: [23:00:31] <Pyromanik> Kingy, and comes at a cost.
365: [23:00:36] <Kingy> I have my own VM setup to host my own shit
366: [23:00:37] <Pyromanik> but depends on your objective I guess.
367: [23:00:45] <Ryan-Toast> meh, I don’t mind cPanel
368: [23:00:51] <Pyromanik> if you're hosting for others... and they want access... then I suppose.
369: [23:01:07] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, I prefer plesk, but that's just an argument about 2 demons.
370: [23:01:09] <Kingy> Pyromanik: and WHMCS+cPanel is as seamless as it comes
371: [23:01:46] <Pyromanik> ie, the lesser of 2 evils, when they're just 6 and 2x3
372: [23:02:10] <ss23> 06:46:38 < Zauberfisch> silverstripe europe
373: [23:02:10] <ss23> 06:47:03 < Zauberfisch> somebody feeling like doing a beginner workshop at the meetup/unconference? :D
374: [23:02:16] <ss23> Are you paying for me to be shipped over? :D
375: [23:02:33] <Pyromanik> ss23, will you fit in sminnee's suitcase?
376: [23:02:45] <Pyromanik> I'm sure he'll have an oxytank and some blankets you can use.
377: [23:07:49] <ss23> XD
378: [23:09:23] <Pyromanik> areet
379: [23:09:24] <Pyromanik> ciao
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383: [23:24:19] <zippy> whats the ip of your Singapore server? I wanna ping
384: [23:25:00] <simon_w> git.simon.geek.nz
385: [23:27:02] <simon_w> If you want to ping6 instead, 91carriage.com
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388: [23:31:39] <zippy> 196ms, about the same as west coast US
389: [23:31:57] <irogue_> yeah, my tests are usually noticably quicker to LA than to singapore
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391: [23:32:26] <zippy> poo... SS_Log::add_writer can't be done in the _ss_environment file
392: [23:32:42] <simon_w> Not from here! :p
393: [23:32:49] <zippy> dingo land
394: [23:32:56] <irogue_> basically depends on the upstream
395: [23:32:56] <simon_w> zippy, if you require all the files you need it can
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397: [23:33:15] <irogue_> over telstraclear I think it's usually quicker to sg, over globalgateway quicker to LA
398: [23:33:45] <simon_w> Over the one that routes through Australia, sg would be quicker
399: [23:34:24] <irogue_> yeah, so telstraclear (since it of course goes to telstra)
400: [23:34:57] <simon_w> My TCL stuff didn't go through AU to hit the US
401: [23:35:35] <irogue_> interesting
402: [23:35:58] <simon_w> Was someone starting with V that routed everything through AU
403: [23:36:04] <simon_w> Multiple hops in there and everything
404: [23:36:33] <irogue_> you mean the company that's now one and the same as TCL? :P
405: [23:36:50] <simon_w> Nope. Was an upstream provider only
406: [23:36:55] <irogue_> ohhh
407: [23:36:56] <irogue_> vocus?
408: [23:37:01] <simon_w> Sounds about right
409: [23:37:12] <irogue_> they're not really upstream only, their retail brand is Maxnet
410: [23:38:08] <irogue_> the ISP landscape sure is interesting these days
411: [23:38:36] <irogue_> especially with the whole Slingshot+Orcon merger
412: [23:39:33] <simon_w> Heh, maybe slingshot will get some customer service now!
413: [23:41:01] <irogue_> idk, Orcon's had gotten worse than Slingshot's since those private investors bought it
414: [23:42:25] <simon_w> I stopped using them before then, so don't really know
415: [23:46:22] <irogue_> so, Ashburton eh
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417: [23:48:05] <zippy> so far... git submobules working out ok
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420: [23:54:16] <Colin[pi]> moin moin
421: [23:55:30] <simon_w> Morning Colin[pi]
422: [23:58:35] <ss23> moin

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