#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 11 August 2014

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1: [00:00:16] * simon_w can't actually help there...
2: [00:03:08] <Colin[pi]> argh!! mouse y u keep lagging?
3: [00:03:14] <Colin[pi]> might be time for a new one
4: [00:03:51] <antmas> Colin[pi]: MALWARE!
5: [00:04:00] <antmas> delete system32!!!
6: [00:04:03] <Colin[pi]> antmas: seems to be the logitech gaming software
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8: [00:06:28] <antmas> I know what will make monday better
9: [00:06:31] <antmas> a new wallpaper
10: [00:06:33] <antmas> :D
11: [00:06:58] <Stomach> http://wallpoper.com/images/00/39/80/17/sonic-the_00398017.jpg
12: [00:08:32] <Colin[pi]> my wallpaper: http://imgur.com/e579xaW
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15: [00:09:05] <markcl> Hi guys! What's with this:
16: [00:09:05] <markcl> Fatal error: Call to undefined method Director::requireTable() in /Volumes/Mounty/www2/annix.dev/framework/model/DatabaseAdmin.php on line 211
17: [00:10:10] <Stomach> you have two of the same class name somewhere
18: [00:10:13] <markcl> My Director DataObject is defined as here: http://pastebin.com/G1zHNS2C
19: [00:10:16] <markcl> I see
20: [00:10:28] <Stomach> Director is already a class :)
21: [00:10:36] <Stomach> you'll need to name it something else or namespace it
22: [00:11:24] <antmas> Colin[pi]: mine http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/2953891
23: [00:11:47] <markcl> Thanks Stomach
24: [00:11:55] <Stomach> np :)
25: [00:12:20] <Colin[pi]> antmas: no agera?
26: [00:13:08] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
27: [00:13:36] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I alternate between the ccx and the area r :D
28: [00:13:41] <antmas> I love em both
29: [00:13:48] <antmas> agrea*
30: [00:13:50] <antmas> fuck
31: [00:13:51] <Colin[pi]> I'm a bit of a Pagani fan as well
32: [00:13:55] <simon_w> http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/media/wallpapers/?view=wall054 is my work one
33: [00:13:56] <antmas> YKWIM
34: [00:14:04] <simon_w> Works great across my three screens
35: [00:14:11] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah I just swtich from a Zonda R wallpaper
36: [00:14:15] <Colin[pi]> lol
37: [00:14:20] <antmas> can't type :(
38: [00:15:38] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
39: [00:16:51] <antmas> always forget to put my spotify on private :O
40: [00:27:59] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
41: [00:29:29] <antmas> zippy: it's too cold :(
42: [00:29:45] <zippy> it's not too bad
43: [00:30:02] <Colin[pi]> argh fucking mouse, brb trying a reboot
44: [00:30:10] * Colin[pi] quit ()
45: [00:31:10] <zippy> I have come to the realization that my javascript foo is weak
46: [00:32:09] <Stomach> var foo = require('foo'); foo.init();
47: [00:32:12] <Stomach> problem solved
48: [00:32:54] <zippy> I thought I had the awesome idea of having a javascript object for each page, so buttons and bindings would live in one place for each page, but finding that it sucks balls for code re-use. Have a section on another page that does something similar... so not duplicate code or extract out. but if I extract out then it breaks my 1 js per page. So maybe the way I am going about this is all wrong
49: [00:32:57] <zippy> #mondayproblems
50: [00:33:41] <Stomach> zippy, can you wrap them in checks to see if the object is there?
51: [00:34:05] <Stomach> var isItThere = $('.is-it-there'); if (isItThere.length) { // do stuff }
52: [00:34:19] <zippy> yea, I could do that - and just have a super large js file?
53: [00:34:49] <zippy> trying to break it up so it's more manageable
54: [00:34:50] <Stomach> thats when you use commonjs :D
55: [00:35:07] <Stomach> and end up with one large js file for build, but not in development
56: [00:35:50] <zippy> yea I use gulp to combine and minify all the js files, so really it's just about development useability
57: [00:36:17] <zippy> common js? http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/CommonJS
58: [00:36:21] <Stomach> if you're using gulp to combine, consider using browserify + commonjs to make sticking them together better
59: [00:36:24] <Stomach> http://viget.com/extend/gulp-browserify-starter-faq
60: [00:36:31] * Colin[pi] has joined #silverstripe
61: [00:36:39] <Colin[pi]> argh didn't fix it
62: [00:36:40] * micmania1 has joined #silverstripe
63: [00:37:04] <ss23> Fun fact: If you search for "silverstripe bum" on Google, you get a result from the logs with Colin[pi] having a quit message of "bum"
64: [00:37:11] <Colin[pi]> rofl
65: [00:37:57] <simon_w> Where, as if you search for bum in the logs you get: <irogue> UP THE BUM
66: [00:38:05] <simon_w> and then <irogue_> up the bum
67: [00:38:07] <ss23> rofl
68: [00:38:23] <ss23> We say "bum" a lot
69: [00:38:59] <ss23> <simon_w> yes, most people don't think of fucking things up the bum
70: [00:39:04] <ss23> <irogue> who's bumming sheep?
71: [00:39:15] <ss23> <catcher> in bum, out nose <-- the weirdiest one
72: [00:39:22] <ss23> I hate to imagine what thing goes in the bum and out the nose
73: [00:39:28] <simon_w> <Pyromanik> spronk: up the bum, no babies.
74: [00:39:40] <Colin[pi]> sounds like that episode of South Park where they decided to start eating with their bum
75: [00:39:42] <spronk> o
76: [00:39:46] <spronk> o_O
77: [00:40:18] <Stomach> Colin[pi], is that the electric car one?
78: [00:40:24] <Stomach> or is that just sniffing own farts
79: [00:40:49] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: dunno just remember a lot of folks pooping out of their mouth o_O
80: [00:43:37] <antmas> yup
81: [00:43:40] <Colin[pi]> I think it might have been a firefox tab that was killing my mouse :o
82: [00:43:50] <antmas> I knew I should've opened this tab when I did :D
83: [00:44:46] <Colin[pi]> nope it's broken again >_<
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86: [00:49:20] <zippy> whats a nice autocomplete plugin for jquery which will let you create an item if nothing in the autocomplete list... select2 seems to heavy
87: [00:50:04] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
88: [00:50:33] <guzzlefry> Does the jQuery UI autocomplete do that?
89: [00:50:50] <zippy> there is one, but looks rubbish
90: [00:51:09] <zippy> and jqueryui looks like it hasn't been updated in a while
91: [00:52:07] <antmas_> jquery UI looks so old now
92: [00:52:11] * antmas_ is now known as antmas
93: [00:52:23] <guzzlefry> http://blog.jqueryui.com/2014/06/jquery-ui-1-11-0/
94: [00:52:27] <guzzlefry> see date :P
95: [00:52:58] <guzzlefry> but yeah, it doesn't look the greatest.
96: [00:53:14] <zippy> guzzlefry: yea man, thats like 6 weeks old!!
97: [00:53:19] <guzzlefry> modifying the CSS helps some, but it still has an ugly layout.
98: [00:53:32] <zippy> i jk, I for some reason thought it said 2013
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100: [00:55:02] <guzzlefry> oh, that's jQuery 1.11, not UI
101: [00:56:12] <guzzlefry> Looks like the jquery ui autocomplete allows custom values though.
102: [00:56:47] <Kolin> it does
103: [00:56:59] <Kolin> most of the rest of jquery UI is a bit shit though
104: [01:00:53] <guzzlefry> wow, <input type='date'> doesn't even seem to do validation yet 0.o
105: [01:01:17] <zippy> it's a shame firefox has not type='date' support
106: [01:05:51] <simon_w> Validation on those fields is browser-specific
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109: [01:11:03] <ss23> guis
110: [01:11:07] <ss23> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/commit/8801a50704e857e5844e5b362eb2fedf941ec37f
111: [01:12:34] <ss23> this means that on the point where you embed the thingy it decides the protocl, right?
112: [01:12:41] <ss23> e.g. access admin section over HTTPS -> embeded as HTTPS
113: [01:12:44] <ss23> but http -> embedded as HTTP
114: [01:12:49] <ss23> rather than on the *load*, right?
115: [01:12:54] <ss23> Or am I thinking about it wrong
116: [01:12:54] <ss23> ?
117: [01:14:24] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
118: [01:16:14] <Kolin> looks like it would work for atleased youtube or vimeo openembed
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120: [01:17:06] <ss23> Work as in would it decide on the scheme when you do the embedding in the CMS, or on page view?
121: [01:17:19] <ss23> Because if I use the CMS in HTTP, not HTTPS, I still want the URL to be HTTPS if I view it through HTTPS on the front end later
122: [01:18:33] <Kolin> Aye, it should rreturn a protocolless url to the client
123: [01:20:42] <Colin[pi]> burger fuel keeps spamming my email with offers... pls stahp, I'm hungry and the nearest is Sydney
124: [01:21:18] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: bahaha
125: [01:21:27] <Colin[pi]> ;_;
126: [01:23:02] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: https://goo.gl/maps/Uuopi
127: [01:23:20] <Colin[pi]> bastard
128: [01:23:40] <Colin[pi]> does silverstripe always set up next to a burgerfuel or something? is that like a company requirement?
129: [01:24:03] <irogue_> probably
130: [01:24:36] <Olliepop> Hey does anyone have any solution to the Silverstripe login interface not displaying authentication error messages? Like 'wrong username/password' etc
131: [01:25:47] <ss23> guis pls
132: [01:25:48] <ss23> hal[p
133: [01:25:52] <ss23> my embed problem
134: [01:25:52] <ss23> ;_;
135: [01:26:24] <Kolin> start them all with //:
136: [01:26:29] <Kolin> forget the protocol
137: [01:26:49] <ss23> Kolin: Yeah, I think we should do that, but we don't at the moment, so trying to figure out what the current behaviour is
138: [01:26:51] <Kolin> :// even
139: [01:28:51] * zippy quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
140: [01:31:59] <adrexia> Oh, I'm glad I don't have that problem.
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142: [01:36:44] <Zauberfisch> Kolin: just //
143: [01:36:46] <Zauberfisch> no :
144: [01:38:11] <Kolin> //
145: [01:39:55] <Zauberfisch> and always make sure that https is available on the target server. because if the client is view a site via https and that site links to a http only site with // the browser will use https and get a warning
146: [01:40:55] * travis-ci has joined #silverstripe
147: [01:40:56] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#3066 (3.1 - 9714498 : Sean Harvey): The build passed.
148: [01:40:56] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/55dca6eec6c7...971449832ca2
149: [01:40:56] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/32189057
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154: [02:11:37] <ss23> NO ONE ANSWERED MY QUESTION
155: [02:11:38] <ss23> :(
156: [02:12:59] <irogue_> ss23: ask hamish :P
157: [02:12:59] <antmas> REESE'S PIECES
158: [02:13:01] <antmas> NOM
159: [02:13:03] * micmania1 quit (Quit: micmania1)
160: [02:13:28] <Kingy> what is this reese's pieces
161: [02:13:36] <ss23> :(
162: [02:13:41] <Kingy> oh isee
163: [02:14:30] <antmas> peanut butter goodness
164: [02:14:34] <madmatt> ss23: If the URL saves as //something.tld, then it works as intended (user will see //, browser will interpret correctly)
165: [02:15:18] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
166: [02:18:54] <ss23> madmatt: It doesn't, though
167: [02:19:58] <ss23> I mean, it's not saved as ///
168: [02:20:04] <ss23> I realise // will work, my question si how it is saved at the moment
169: [02:20:13] <ss23> Is it based on when the user edits it in the admin section, or on view later on, or what
170: [02:20:57] <zippy> ahhh.. moose balls
171: [02:21:13] <zippy> I need a hot drink
172: [02:21:17] <zippy> antmas: bit chilly now
173: [02:21:29] <antmas> zippy: yeah it got COLDER
174: [02:21:32] <antmas> ;____;
175: [02:22:05] <Kingy> it snowed driving home the other day
176: [02:22:06] <Kingy> was weird
177: [02:22:09] <ss23> o.O
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179: [02:22:16] <ss23> It was hot in my room last night
180: [02:22:30] <ss23> I woke up to the dreaded "oh god somehow my feet got under my blanket now I'm sweating like crazy"
181: [02:22:35] <ss23> then couldn't arrange my blankets nicely again :(
182: [02:22:36] <Kingy> I don't think we want to know ss23
183: [02:22:37] <ss23> IT WAS HORRIBLE
184: [02:22:40] <ss23> haha
185: [02:22:48] <ss23> Kingy: Well I did have IRC open ;)
186: [02:23:47] <antmas> feet in bed is the worst
187: [02:23:50] <antmas> ss23: I know those feels
188: [02:24:01] <irogue_> is legit one of my least fav thing about hotels
189: [02:24:24] <irogue_> they tuck the bed in so damn solidly it's a real mission to get your feet out
190: [02:24:44] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: Unless it’s cold
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192: [02:24:55] <antmas> hotels I don't mind because they have those starchy sheets which absorb sweat
193: [02:27:33] <ss23> that sounds so gross
194: [02:27:36] <ss23> but you're right, they totally do
195: [02:34:10] <Kingy> there is no such thing as cold
196: [02:34:14] <Kingy> middle of winter, feet out the side
197: [02:34:27] <antmas> my feet are perpetually cold
198: [02:34:34] <antmas> like clammy squids
199: [02:34:36] <Kingy> bastard
200: [02:35:17] <ss23> I like my feet being cold
201: [02:35:31] <antmas> same here
202: [02:36:14] <Kingy> +2
203: [02:36:15] <antmas> if I were thermal socks to bed, I can't wake up cos I'm sleeping so hard
204: [02:36:22] <antmas> it's like sleeping pills!
205: [02:37:06] <zippy> just spilt a cup of water all over the desk - it's a monday! no mice or keyboards hurt thou
206: [02:37:51] <ss23> lolwut antmas
207: [02:37:58] <ss23> zippy: Could be worse, could've been coffee!
208: [02:38:09] <antmas> who drinks water?
209: [02:38:12] <ss23> http://i.imgur.com/omd6nfP.gif
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211: [02:38:24] <ss23> People who don't work for a place that provides free coke!
212: [02:38:36] <ss23> I'm kind of sad we get free coke here, on some level... cause I get so fat
213: [02:38:57] <zippy> my work place provides coke, I just like a tall glass of water every now and then
214: [02:39:03] <antmas> yeah I refrained from getting on our of your fridge :P
215: [02:40:27] <antmas> one*
216: [02:42:13] <zippy> whats that buzzword when you use like a type=date field, but degrade nicely if date isn't supported?
217: [02:42:21] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
218: [02:42:39] <irogue_> zippy: graceful degradation?
219: [02:43:34] <zippy> must be, and progressive enhancement is the other way around
220: [02:43:59] <antmas> yeah GD
221: [02:44:37] <mobiusnz> screw free coke.. my work provides free beer and coffee
222: [02:44:49] <irogue_> don't all works?
223: [02:45:09] <irogue_> I swear if you're an IT co and you don't provide coffee, beer and coke - you're doing it wrong
224: [02:45:35] <mobiusnz> haha
225: [02:45:37] <zippy> we recently changed from beer to jack daniels, boss was getting sick of beer..
226: [02:46:09] <antmas> zippy: ;)
227: [02:47:15] <zippy> started watching Silicon Valley the other day whoever made that suggestion, pretty funny
228: [02:48:35] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: we don’t ahave coke
229: [02:48:45] <mobiusnz> http://cl.ly/image/0T3U222w1j2B
230: [02:48:52] <mobiusnz> ^^ our work cupboard
231: [02:49:16] <irogue_> v nice
232: [02:49:20] <irogue_> we have a lot more food than that
233: [02:49:26] <Ryan-Toast> We just have like 1000 beers at all times
234: [02:49:54] <mobiusnz> the kitchen has like 90 million cupboards, food is in another one
235: [02:50:18] <spronk> alcoholics
236: [02:50:20] <spronk> seriously
237: [02:50:28] <zippy> spronk: sounds like jealousy
238: [02:50:31] <Kingy> we have breakfast and coffee
239: [02:50:58] <mobiusnz> my boss keeps on winning free years supply of coffee beans too
240: [02:51:01] <mobiusnz> not sure how
241: [02:51:03] * spronk doesn't drink alcohol, so not really :P
242: [02:51:17] <spronk> that jar of coffee beans, however
243: [02:51:18] <Kingy> mobiusnz: it involves the sexual organs
244: [02:51:24] <ss23> It was so annoying this morning
245: [02:51:31] <ss23> We have a bunch of spirits, bunch of beer, NO COKE
246: [02:51:32] <ss23> :/
247: [02:51:36] <mobiusnz> Kingy: don't ask, don't tell
248: [02:51:44] <Kingy> lol
249: [02:51:54] <Kingy> ss23: well mondays are a good day to get hammered
250: [02:52:01] <ss23> 14:47:16 < zippy> started watching Silicon Valley the other day whoever made that suggestion, pretty funny
251: [02:52:05] <ss23> I watched the entire season the other day
252: [02:52:12] <ss23> It wasn' as good as I wanted, but it had some amazing scenes
253: [02:52:16] <irogue_> [14:51:03] spronk doesn't drink alcohol, so not really :P
254: [02:52:17] <zippy> up to 6
255: [02:52:28] <irogue_> the number of people at SS Akl who do is shrinking :(
256: [02:52:53] <antmas> I'm tepmted to take a couple of months off drinking
257: [02:53:07] <Kingy> irogue_: are you having to carry the team?
258: [02:53:17] <irogue_> Kingy: if anyone that'd be Aaro
259: [02:53:19] <ss23> DAMMIT IT'S HARD TO FIND THE RIGHT SILICON VALLEY CLIP
260: [02:54:03] <irogue_> ss23: my fav is the whole segment where he's tripping balls
261: [02:54:42] <ss23> the one where he's trying to come up with the name?
262: [02:54:56] <ss23> My favorite was the "If you scream out your name, it forces your attacker to acknoledge you as a human"
263: [02:55:09] <ss23> But I can't find it!!!!
264: [02:55:19] <irogue_> ss23: yep. and brings home the kid
265: [02:55:25] <ss23> haha
266: [02:55:29] <ss23> eah
267: [02:55:33] <antmas> I should watch more
268: [02:55:42] <antmas> only saw like the first 2-3 eps maybe?
269: [02:55:51] <spronk> it was great
270: [02:55:54] <spronk> cant wait for s02
271: [02:56:05] <antmas> assuming it got greenlit?
272: [02:56:10] <ss23> yeah
273: [02:56:15] <zippy> spronk: it did
274: [02:56:20] <ss23> DAmmit, it's frustrating it's not on there
275: [02:56:20] <ss23> :/
276: [02:56:22] <ss23> stupid youtube
277: [02:56:40] <ss23> that scene and the dick algo were really good
278: [02:56:43] <ss23> and code gay was good
279: [02:56:49] <zippy> dude that plays Peter Gregory died thou
280: [02:56:49] <irogue_> haha yes dick algo
281: [02:56:54] <ss23> zippy: Yeah :
282: [02:56:55] <ss23> :(
283: [02:57:06] <ss23> The thing I love best about the dick algo one is it's 100% legit a conversation nerds would have
284: [02:57:59] <spronk> oh what
285: [02:57:59] <spronk> he died
286: [02:58:00] <spronk> wtf
287: [03:00:01] <irogue_> ss23: absolutely
288: [03:00:35] <spronk> ugh
289: [03:00:43] <spronk> the more i think about it the more onthefence.co.nz pisses me off
290: [03:01:16] <irogue_> weeee
291: [03:01:37] <irogue_> 4pm meeting just got moved to 3pm, by the client, with 2 minutes notice
292: [03:01:43] <irogue_> CLIENTS GONNA CLIENT
293: [03:01:55] <Kingy> -1min notice
294: [03:01:56] <Kingy> lol
295: [03:02:14] <irogue_> Kingy: well, he sent the email at 2:58pm, but we only just saw it :P
296: [03:02:27] <Kingy> yeah i have my email open all day
297: [03:02:33] <Kingy> but i'll only check it once an hour
298: [03:03:41] <irogue_> yay, I got out of it
299: [03:03:51] <mobiusnz> that's the best kind of meeting
300: [03:04:10] <irogue_> successfully argued that since I was off sick all last week my presence in a demo of what we did last week would be pointless
301: [03:04:38] <zippy> spronk: damn, after 7 questions I have NZ first as my first pick, and Internet Mana party as my 2nd
302: [03:04:44] <spronk> haha
303: [03:04:44] <spronk> yeah
304: [03:04:49] <spronk> i have nz first as my first pick too :/
305: [03:04:56] <irogue_> mustve picked something racist :P
306: [03:04:59] <mobiusnz> that website is wong
307: [03:05:44] <spronk> the whole concept of political parties is just broken
308: [03:05:54] <irogue_> it got my first option right!
309: [03:06:30] <irogue_> spronk: yeah but sif voters would ever bother to actually pay attention to what individual candidates believe / what their policies are
310: [03:06:53] <spronk> i think voters are capable of voting on individual policies though
311: [03:07:00] <irogue_> I don't
312: [03:07:04] * irogue_ glares at California
313: [03:07:13] <irogue_> IMPROVE ALL PUBLIC SERVICES
314: [03:07:19] <irogue_> ALSO DRASTICALLY REDUCE TAXES
315: [03:07:24] <irogue_> omg, why is our state bankrupt?
316: [03:07:31] <ss23> 15:00:43 < spronk> the more i think about it the more onthefence.co.nz pisses me off
317: [03:07:34] <ss23> why?
318: [03:07:41] <spronk> the questions are piss poor
319: [03:07:45] <ss23> Why?
320: [03:07:49] <spronk> well, they're two part questions
321: [03:07:51] <irogue_> yeah, the questions really are shit
322: [03:07:57] <ss23> Elaborate?
323: [03:07:58] <spronk> and its entirely possible to agree with half of the question and disagree with the other
324: [03:08:06] <spronk> they're also asking for a likert type scale answer, which..... only somewhat works
325: [03:08:21] <ss23> okay I think I see the problem
326: [03:08:35] <irogue_> the version they used last election was far better
327: [03:08:35] <ss23> You are like "onthefence isn't a perfect measure of policies and things and I want it to perfectly match me up to the perfect party"
328: [03:08:51] <irogue_> ss23: the problem is its gone backward
329: [03:08:54] <ss23> When in reality it's more like "here are some talking points, here are where polices you picked match up to other parties, go think about it"
330: [03:09:02] <spronk> ss23, nah, it's not that
331: [03:09:06] <antmas> voting is too hard :<
332: [03:09:11] <ss23> Then what is it?
333: [03:09:12] * howardgrigg has joined #silverstripe
334: [03:09:12] <spronk> it would be much better even if htey just separated out the questions
335: [03:09:14] <ss23> Cause I don't understand the "problem"
336: [03:09:24] <spronk> because it's not even giving me accurate results
337: [03:09:27] <spronk> like
338: [03:09:28] <spronk> at all
339: [03:09:30] <ss23> and?
340: [03:09:35] <ss23> I mean
341: [03:09:37] <irogue_> its not asking good enough questions to give remotely accurate results
342: [03:09:38] <ss23> It does accuratly what it does
343: [03:09:44] <antmas> it shouldn't all be about 'fixing a problem' though either
344: [03:09:46] <ss23> If it's just "I don't wanna vote for that party!"
345: [03:09:48] <ss23> then that's lame
346: [03:09:53] <spronk> what?
347: [03:10:15] <spronk> if i can't even answer the questions properly, then it's failing
348: [03:10:17] <ss23> It asks questions and tries to match up which party had most similiar policy decisions to the way you answered. That's what it *does*
349: [03:10:21] <ss23> It's not doing that wrong
350: [03:10:23] <irogue_> http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2014-08-11#log_1369440
351: [03:10:30] <irogue_> http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2014-08-11#log_1369467
352: [03:10:56] <irogue_> both two-part questions where it's entirely reasonable to agree with half of it
353: [03:11:04] <ss23> The questions aren't meant to be all and end all of the discussion :/
354: [03:11:08] <irogue_> and part policies don't necessarily sit on one side or the other
355: [03:11:09] <spronk> ok, ss23, answer me accurately on a scale of 1(disagree strongly) to 5(agree strongly) how much you agree with this: "Murder is the best thing ever. Pizza is a very convenient fast food."
356: [03:11:11] <ss23> They're just indicative so you can see where party policies lie
357: [03:11:17] <irogue_> ss23: but why the hell not just split those questions?
358: [03:11:35] <irogue_> it seems like they've just thrown it together very lazily this time around
359: [03:11:39] <ss23> irogue_: Probably because in the case of party policies they looked at, the policies were ones that mixed those two together
360: [03:11:47] <ss23> IF every party is phrasing their policies like that, then it makes sense to ask it like that
361: [03:12:08] <ss23> Like, in spronk's example, if greens are like "YEAH FUCK YES, MURDER IS THE BEST THING EVER, PIZZA IS CONVIENT" and john key is like "bullshit, murder is the worst, pizza is unconvient"
362: [03:12:11] <spronk> ss23, and if that is the case, it just goes to further my annoyance with this site (and by extension, politics in nz)
363: [03:12:12] <ss23> then you could put the questions together
364: [03:12:41] <irogue_> ss23: but there are more than two parties
365: [03:12:49] <irogue_> ss23: did you use the site last election?
366: [03:12:58] <ss23> I seriously think if your issues are just "wah these questions don't accurately match me up to a political party properly", then you suck. I didn't make the site, so I'm not sure of the intention, but I swear, anyone who doesn't actually then go "OH I VOTED LIKE THIS, THE ESE PARTIES HAVE THESE VIEWS" are stupid
367: [03:13:03] <ss23> Ergo, PEBAK
368: [03:13:03] <ss23> irogue_ and spronk both suck
369: [03:13:09] <ss23> (as does everyone on twitter)
370: [03:13:22] <spronk> o_O
371: [03:13:41] * antmas grabs popcorn
372: [03:13:47] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
373: [03:13:49] <spronk> this site has the potential to encourage non-voters to vote, right?
374: [03:13:54] <ss23> disagree
375: [03:13:56] <ss23> sooooooo disagree
376: [03:14:02] <spronk> sigh
377: [03:14:07] * markcl has left #silverstripe
378: [03:14:10] <antmas> you think it has NO potential at all?
379: [03:14:13] <spronk> a lot of people don't really fully understand party policies
380: [03:14:22] <spronk> something like this that distills them down is very useful
381: [03:14:25] <ss23> antmas: Not exaclty, I just think I have 0 reaosn to think it *will* do something
382: [03:14:28] <spronk> but only if it does so reasonably accurately
383: [03:14:46] <ss23> I'm not saying I know it won't, or I know it will, I'm saying a statement like "it has potential to encourage non-voters to vote" is misleading and bullshit without some kind of evidence
384: [03:14:55] <ss23> spronk: I disagree
385: [03:15:10] <ss23> I think if people are not going to actually look at party policies properly, and just want a "fill in these questions, vote for this part", it's negative
386: [03:15:25] <spronk> ok, but would you agree that the site could be potentially misleading to not-super-well-informed voters?
387: [03:15:27] <ss23> Over all, I think people voting based off anything like this withou tactually looking into it properly, it's a bad thing, they shouldn't vote
388: [03:15:33] <irogue_> well I agree with that
389: [03:15:38] <antmas> ss23: that doesn't make sense, how can you gauge potential with evidence?
390: [03:15:39] <irogue_> but unfortunately we can't enforce that :P
391: [03:15:49] <ss23> antmas: Like "in other countries they did this and it worked"
392: [03:15:52] <irogue_> and dumb people *will* make their decision based on sites like that
393: [03:15:55] <ss23> antmas: or "in similar project it worked"
394: [03:16:02] <ss23> spronk: Yes, in the same way that everything can (people being cunts, family, media, etc)
395: [03:16:04] <irogue_> or who "seems like a nice man"
396: [03:16:11] <antmas> ss23: anecdotal at best though
397: [03:16:14] <ss23> This is just another peice of billions of things that influence people into voting one way or anoother, sure
398: [03:16:18] <spronk> so the site has a bit of a responsibility to try to be the least misleading it can
399: [03:16:26] <ss23> antmas: Uh, no, I'm asking for actual evidence, non-anecdotal
400: [03:16:27] <zippy> so it's wrong to vote for the guy I hear most in the news? hmmm
401: [03:16:31] <ss23> spronk: No, disagree
402: [03:16:35] <spronk> o_O
403: [03:16:37] <ss23> No site has any responsbility to not be misleading
404: [03:16:49] <ss23> There is a) no legal responsibility, and b) no moral responsibility
405: [03:16:56] <spronk> it's conveying its purpose as to help you match up to a political party
406: [03:16:59] <ss23> I presume you're talking about b, the moral responseibility to not mislead, which I think is wrong
407: [03:17:04] <ss23> spronk: So is John Key
408: [03:17:16] <spronk> no, he's not
409: [03:17:20] <ss23> Uh
410: [03:17:22] <ss23> Pretty sure he is
411: [03:17:23] <irogue_> ss23: one does have to wonder about electoral law though
412: [03:17:24] <ss23> "I'm the best, vote for me"
413: [03:17:26] <spronk> he's trying to get you to vote for him, for whatever reason you want
414: [03:17:36] <irogue_> if it's biased toward a party, then it has to be considered electoral advertising etc.
415: [03:17:51] <ss23> Also, to lighten the mood - http://hothardware.com/News/Cat-Snoops-Neighborhood-WiFi-With-WarKitteh-Smart-Collar/#!bAURqw :D
416: [03:18:08] <ss23> spronk: But he presents himself as "I am the best", right? He doesn't present himself as "Im lying, labour actually are good"
417: [03:18:23] <spronk> yeah, but he doesn't have to be impartial
418: [03:18:31] <spronk> this site does
419: [03:18:31] <ss23> Neither does that sit
420: [03:18:32] <ss23> site
421: [03:18:33] <ss23> No
422: [03:18:34] <ss23> Why does it?
423: [03:18:36] <ss23> Explain.
424: [03:18:39] <irogue_> personally, I'd be down with not letting anyone vote unless they've at least watched an entire Question Time on Parliament TV :P
425: [03:18:39] <spronk> electoral law
426: [03:18:41] <spronk> otherwise it's avertising
427: [03:18:46] <spronk> or, propaganda
428: [03:19:08] <ss23> hahaha irogue_, that's evil
429: [03:19:16] <spronk> irogue_, yeah, maybe then everyone would ask for a binding referendum to ditch everyone in the fucking house
430: [03:19:22] <ss23> Wait srsly, so the law in NZ is that if you tell people to vote for a certain party, it's illegal?
431: [03:19:26] <ss23> Cause my entire family should be in prison in that case
432: [03:19:27] <spronk> bunch of little fucking 60 year old children
433: [03:19:33] <irogue_> ss23: pretty much yeah
434: [03:19:40] <spronk> it pretty much is
435: [03:19:46] <ss23> Well in that case, I say a) it's unenforced, and b) it's still not immoral
436: [03:19:54] <ss23> Unenforced laws can also be said to be "legal" in lots of cases
437: [03:19:55] <spronk> if that can be construed as broadcast communication
438: [03:20:05] <ss23> Does yelling count as a boradcast communication?
439: [03:20:13] <irogue_> http://www.elections.org.nz/guidance-mps-election-advertising-rules/definition-election-advertisement
440: [03:20:24] <spronk> IANAL, but pretty sure that it can in certain circumstances
441: [03:20:27] <simon_w> ss23, last election, people did get in trouble for it
442: [03:20:34] <irogue_> "Because the definition of election advertisement covers an advertisement in any medium it is not limited to traditional forms of advertising such as newspapers, posters, billboards, leaflets and radio and TV broadcasting. It also applies to other things such as websites, letters and signage."
443: [03:21:06] <ss23> Thats some serios bullshit
444: [03:21:12] <ss23> Think of all those people on Twitter tweeting tweets.
445: [03:21:13] <Colin[pi]> <+ss23> Wait srsly, so the law in NZ is that if you tell people to vote for a certain party, it's illegal?
446: [03:21:21] <Colin[pi]> so does that mean you cant do this shit over there? http://mitchellflanagan.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/vguibw.jpg
447: [03:21:33] <simon_w> Colin[pi], on election day
448: [03:21:49] <zippy> which is why all the bill boards come down the night before
449: [03:22:05] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: what about those lame "how to vote" cards?
450: [03:22:17] <irogue_> "There is an exemption for the publication of personal political views by an individual on the Internet or other electronic medium, provided the individual does not make or receive payment for publishing those views."
451: [03:22:26] <irogue_> ^ specifically done cos twitter
452: [03:22:27] <simon_w> Colin[pi], our voting system's nowhere near as fucked up as the Australian one :p
453: [03:22:43] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: our * is nowhere near as fucked up as the Australian *
454: [03:22:46] <Ryan-Toast> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMI4Z7ri8A&t=10
455: [03:22:47] <irogue_> ^
456: [03:22:47] <Colin[pi]> wildcard!
457: [03:23:30] <simon_w> Colin[pi], we don't need "How to vote" cards. Everyone gets two things to vote on and picks one option for each. None of this ranking BS.
458: [03:24:04] <Colin[pi]> I still hate polling day when they all walk over like zombies
459: [03:24:10] <Colin[pi]> "DO YOU NEED A HOW TO VOTE CARD?"
460: [03:24:11] <Ryan-Toast> Americans must get confused when they come here and the colours are swapped.
461: [03:24:13] <Colin[pi]> "NO, FUCK OFF."
462: [03:24:20] <irogue_> Ryan-Toast: haha, ikr
463: [03:24:21] <spronk> while i'm not really in agreement with the outcome, i'm definitely for a complete reform of voting
464: [03:24:30] <irogue_> wonder how many americans accidentally vote labour
465: [03:24:33] <Ryan-Toast> HOW WILL I KNOW WHO TO VOTE FOR IF THE COLOURS ARE DIFFERENT?
466: [03:24:35] <spronk> (referring to simon_w 's suggestion)
467: [03:24:40] <spronk> man
468: [03:24:46] <spronk> americans coming here must be so shocked
469: [03:24:53] <irogue_> http://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2011 <-- do this test and compare to this, is quite interesting and a lot more in-depth than onthefence
470: [03:24:59] <spronk> even our most right wing parties are super liberal compared to anything over there
471: [03:25:43] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: when I did the ABC political compass test here, I came out super green lol
472: [03:25:48] <irogue_> lol
473: [03:26:06] <Colin[pi]> "congrats, you are gandhi"
474: [03:26:16] <spronk> Colin[pi], haha, my closest match was also gandhi
475: [03:26:20] <Colin[pi]> lol
476: [03:26:25] <ss23> dudes
477: [03:26:27] <ss23> it's ghandi
478: [03:26:39] * spronk just copied and pasted Colin[pi]'s spelling
479: [03:26:46] <ss23> lol, I lied
480: [03:26:59] <Colin[pi]> dammit you had me confused for a sec there
481: [03:27:03] <Colin[pi]> I was sure it was correct :P
482: [03:27:12] <spronk> MOTHERFUCKING OW
483: [03:27:21] <ss23> hahaha
484: [03:27:21] <irogue_> While in Europe and the US there's an unprecedented public backlash against banks and investment houses, New Zealanders are poised to re-elect a Prime Minister who made his career fortune as an executive with the scandal-ridden firm of Merrill Lynch.
485: [03:27:23] <spronk> dont take your splint off your broken ring finger and type
486: [03:27:31] <irogue_> Labour similarly counts on short-term memory with its No Asset Sales slogan. It was under Labour in the 1980s that asset sales and neo-liberalism were introduced to New Zealand. The Finance Minister responsible has since found an appropriate home in the far right ACT party.
487: [03:27:43] <irogue_> ^ reading an outside view like that is quite hilarious
488: [03:27:46] <spronk> mm
489: [03:27:57] * srikanth quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
490: [03:28:04] <antmas> monday
491: [03:28:04] <spronk> i don't really want to vote for anyone :S
492: [03:28:10] <antmas> neither
493: [03:28:17] <Colin[pi]> spronk: every single time there's an election, I feel the same
494: [03:28:18] * spronk doesn't want labour in government at all
495: [03:28:33] <spronk> which pretty much rules out voting for the greens
496: [03:28:36] <antmas> spronk: yeah I'm there
497: [03:28:40] <antmas> exactly
498: [03:28:41] <spronk> and i don't want national to have a majority either
499: [03:28:44] <zippy> me either
500: [03:28:47] <irogue_> I really want something crazy to happen this election
501: [03:28:53] <spronk> but fuck me if i'm going to vote for colin craig, act, or winstonfirst
502: [03:29:10] <zippy> tbh, I am thinking consertives, for the binding referendums
503: [03:29:14] <Colin[pi]> spronk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pji_IX-UacM
504: [03:29:20] <simon_w> spronk, you could vote Mana! :p
505: [03:29:22] <irogue_> like greens taking over as the main left party, and labour having to be the minor coalition partner
506: [03:29:31] <irogue_> cos that'd just be hilarious
507: [03:29:35] <spronk> but zippy, colin craig is a reptilian warlord!
508: [03:29:41] <spronk> ugh, mana
509: [03:29:43] <antmas> yeah I'd vote green over labour these days any day
510: [03:29:44] <irogue_> and Colin Craig getting caught up in a gay sex scandal
511: [03:29:46] <spronk> get the fuck out kim dotcom
512: [03:30:05] <irogue_> preferably with Jamie Whyte
513: [03:30:06] * spronk would be happy to have the greens as main left party
514: [03:30:23] <spronk> some of their policies are fucking braindead IMO though...
515: [03:30:40] <simon_w> spronk, main problem there is then you hit the whack jobs on their roll
516: [03:30:53] <spronk> ughhh i know
517: [03:31:06] <zippy> spronk: meh I think most of what is out about him is rubbish anyway...
518: [03:31:15] <spronk> someone i was talking to suggested the other day a vote of no confidence
519: [03:31:25] <zippy> is that possible?
520: [03:31:28] <spronk> well
521: [03:31:31] <spronk> not currentlyl
522: [03:31:31] <irogue_> we should figure out how far we can safely let them go before we get to the crazies
523: [03:31:32] <irogue_> https://www.greens.org.nz/people/candidates
524: [03:31:37] <spronk> but the idea would be that it would remove voting power from the house
525: [03:31:49] <spronk> i.e. if 20% of country voted no confidence, 20% of total votes would always be no
526: [03:32:03] <ss23> GARETH HUGHES 4 LYFE
527: [03:32:12] <spronk> general idea would be for parties to work together more on policy
528: [03:32:16] <irogue_> I know them up to about 17, and they're fine up to there. After that I don't really know any of them
529: [03:32:19] <spronk> could be a bit of a pipe dream though
530: [03:32:27] <Stomach> ss23 o/
531: [03:32:27] <spronk> i
532: [03:32:33] <spronk> 'm sure some of those old time cunts just like to argue
533: [03:32:54] <zippy> irogue_: 14 reminds me a bit of shadboult with the crazy drug eyes
534: [03:33:13] <zippy> perm-a stoned
535: [03:33:18] <irogue_> haha
536: [03:33:24] <irogue_> organic farmer from blenheim
537: [03:33:26] <irogue_> so, probably
538: [03:35:41] * bobbyg has joined #silverstripe
539: [03:39:44] * srikanth has joined #silverstripe
540: [03:39:56] * howardgrigg has joined #silverstripe
541: [03:40:41] <simon_w> We should start our own party! With hookers! And blackjack!
542: [03:40:48] <ss23> ^^^^^^^^^
543: [03:41:04] <antmas> SSIRC Party
544: [03:41:09] <ss23> :D
545: [03:41:20] <zippy> need 500 members before you can form a party don't ya?
546: [03:41:35] <Colin[pi]> worked for these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxBW4mPzv6E
547: [03:41:59] <ss23> lol is tha the party with the comedian leader?
548: [03:42:06] <Colin[pi]> yep lol
549: [03:42:11] <ss23> lol that they won
550: [03:43:04] <ss23> was for a city though, not country
551: [03:43:06] <ss23> still, lulz
552: [03:43:16] <Colin[pi]> yeah the guy is still the mayor I think
553: [03:43:25] <spronk> simon_w, :D :D :D
554: [03:43:31] <spronk> on second thoughts
555: [03:43:33] <madmatt> Bring back the McGillicuddy Serious Party I say
556: [03:43:33] <spronk> forget the blackjack
557: [03:43:35] <Colin[pi]> oh no he stepped down in june: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3n_Gnarr
558: [03:44:36] * joelpittet quit ()
559: [03:44:54] <irogue_> madmatt: one of the leaders of the Greens used to be in McG Serious :P
560: [03:45:32] <ss23> "Since leaving office, Gnarr has campaigned for Iceland to abandon its laws requiring citizens to have traditional Icelandic names"
561: [03:45:35] <ss23> What a stupid law
562: [03:45:55] <micmania1> do you’s have anything like the monster raving looney party over here?
563: [03:46:17] <ss23> What is it? :O
564: [03:46:21] <ss23> WE have Colin Craig
565: [03:46:23] <ss23> My coworker made me a hot chocolate! :D
566: [03:46:29] <spronk> SCORE
567: [03:46:36] <ss23> ikr
568: [03:46:52] <micmania1> http://www.omrlp.com/
569: [03:46:57] <Colin[pi]> ss23: was this an unsolicited hot chocolate? :o
570: [03:47:00] <ss23> Yeah man
571: [03:47:04] <Colin[pi]> double score!
572: [03:47:04] <ss23> He just gave it to me
573: [03:47:07] <ss23> He was like "it was a calculated risk"
574: [03:47:10] <Colin[pi]> <3
575: [03:47:21] <ss23> <3 SilverStripe :D
576: [03:48:04] <irogue_> ss23: was it joel?
577: [03:48:10] <ss23> It was totally Joel
578: [03:48:15] <irogue_> called it
579: [03:49:02] <Colin[pi]> d'aww
580: [03:49:03] <antmas> time to rip my stuff out of google drive
581: [03:49:32] <antmas> got 2 years of 1.5tb OneDrive storage :D
582: [03:49:51] <irogue_> he bakes good scones
583: [03:49:56] <irogue_> *amazing* scones, in fact
584: [03:54:25] <Colin[pi]> woah the end of my iphone cable melted
585: [03:54:30] <ss23> wow
586: [03:54:30] <ss23> :O
587: [03:54:32] <ss23> how/why?
588: [03:54:35] <Colin[pi]> mm might be time to throw it away lol
589: [03:54:43] <ss23> antmas: Tried the new Pacifier album?
590: [03:54:45] <Colin[pi]> ss23: looks like it's had a short :o
591: [03:54:54] <antmas> ss23: -_-
592: [03:54:55] <Colin[pi]> phone is fine
593: [03:54:59] <ss23> antmas: :3
594: [03:55:01] <ss23> Colin[pi]: weird...
595: [03:55:23] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: legit cable?
596: [03:55:33] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: yes, this one is
597: [03:55:37] <irogue_> weird
598: [03:55:41] <irogue_> have seen it plenty with non-legit ones
599: [03:56:21] <antmas> anyone know what Skype Unlimited World is?
600: [03:57:09] <antmas> I have a code here for 12 months of it
601: [03:57:12] <bobbyg> Hi folks, Noob here, I've just been looking at SilverStripe books but the latest one is like 3 years old... Assume it isn't worth getting?
602: [03:57:20] <Stomach> ss23 its good
603: [03:57:30] <irogue_> bobbyg: yeah, we use them as monitor stands here
604: [03:57:30] <ss23> Listening to it now
605: [03:57:31] <ss23> sounds okay
606: [03:57:36] <Kingy> irogue_: lol
607: [03:57:40] <ss23> The name I like
608: [03:57:42] <ss23> FVEY
609: [03:58:06] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: http://imgur.com/Gjz8fFn
610: [03:58:18] <bobbyg> Heh, thans irogue
611: [03:58:22] <Colin[pi]> was really hot in that spot :o
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614: [03:59:55] <irogue_> I need some more actually
615: [03:59:58] <irogue_> I'm too damn tall
616: [04:00:41] <Colin[pi]> bobbyg: it's good at covering fundamentals, but unfortunately pretty much all the code examples would be out of date now for SS3
617: [04:00:43] <irogue_> hey ss23, did I leave my headphones down there?
618: [04:01:04] <ss23> um
619: [04:01:06] <ss23> I dunno? o.o
620: [04:01:12] <ss23> Where did you leave them?
621: [04:01:32] <irogue_> where I was sitting, desk between you and Mateusz
622: [04:01:37] <ss23> um
623: [04:01:44] <ss23> oh I see, lol
624: [04:01:48] <ss23> Was going to say, I don't sit next to him
625: [04:02:03] <irogue_> lol
626: [04:02:08] <ss23> steelseries?
627: [04:02:10] <irogue_> yep
628: [04:02:17] <antmas> what is FVEY?
629: [04:02:18] <ss23> want me to get them courioured up?
630: [04:02:21] <antmas> Five Eye?
631: [04:02:27] <ss23> antmas: five eyes, yeah
632: [04:02:34] <antmas> win
633: [04:02:38] <antmas> cool album cover too
634: [04:02:48] <irogue_> ss23: yeah that'd be good. they're my office pair, and I'm missing listening to music at work :P
635: [04:02:59] <ss23> kk
636: [04:04:04] <irogue_> PB had them on sale for $28 at one point so I bought 3 pairs, one for home, one for work and one to leave at peachgrove rd (where I keep a spare gaming pc)
637: [04:04:14] * antmas quit (Quit: Page closed)
638: [04:04:29] <ss23> okay irogue_, is being sent up with Sam/Diana
639: [04:04:35] <ss23> (they're going up this week)
640: [04:04:36] <irogue_> sweet :)
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642: [04:20:17] <azureRaven> Anybody have any clue why this isn't working?
643: [04:20:18] <azureRaven> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/53e84018dcad4
644: [04:20:37] <azureRaven> I've tried to send emails through that form on the front-end ss and it's just not sending anything.
645: [04:21:25] <irogue_> azureRaven: line 54
646: [04:21:28] <irogue_> send() is lowercase
647: [04:21:35] <azureRaven> Dammit.
648: [04:21:46] <simon_w> Not that it matters
649: [04:22:00] <azureRaven> Lol.
650: [04:22:58] <azureRaven> I was thinking of using UserForms or even the other Contact-Form module, but I need to have a radio option to choose between two contact forms.
651: [04:23:07] <azureRaven> So, at the moment, I'm trying to just write the contact emails myself.
652: [04:23:11] <irogue_> simon_w: true
653: [04:24:10] <simon_w> azureRaven, doesn't look like there's any way to set YourMail
654: [04:24:19] <simon_w> So it'll be null
655: [04:24:24] <azureRaven> Oh sorry.
656: [04:24:31] <azureRaven> The TextField in the top is set to the same as the $db item.
657: [04:24:38] <azureRaven> I forgot to update that in my paste.
658: [04:25:10] <zippy> azureRaven: you dumped out the $From and $To and checked their values?
659: [04:25:36] <azureRaven> zippy No, I didn't do that.
660: [04:25:39] <zippy> you on linux or osx?
661: [04:25:41] <azureRaven> OSX.
662: [04:26:17] <zippy> try and tail -f the /var/log/mail.log file - it might be trying to send, but failing (if your doing it locally)
663: [04:26:21] <zippy> check the To and From first
664: [04:26:41] <azureRaven> I'm sorry for this stupid question, but how might I check them?
665: [04:26:44] <azureRaven> :O
666: [04:27:12] <zippy> on line 50 do; var_dump($To, $From); die();
667: [04:27:13] <ss23> Fun fact: tailf is ever so slightly more effeicent than tail -f
668: [04:27:14] <zippy> and submit :)
669: [04:28:18] <azureRaven> It returned both the right values.
670: [04:28:23] <zippy> okdokies
671: [04:28:31] <zippy> remove then, and check that log file might help
672: [04:28:43] <azureRaven> What is the tail-f command? I've never even heard of it. XD
673: [04:28:50] <zippy> open your terminal
674: [04:28:56] <zippy> tail -f /var/log/mail.log
675: [04:29:04] <zippy> might say something...
676: [04:29:34] <zippy> Aug 11 11:20:04 ss23-is-awesome.box postfix/qmgr[474]: AB5861AB14AC: removed
677: [04:29:34] <azureRaven> Oh. It says failure.
678: [04:29:38] <azureRaven> defer service failure.
679: [04:31:00] <irogue_> quite possibly your ISP blocks port 25 outbound to anything but its own mailserver
680: [04:31:10] <azureRaven> Hmm. Maybe.
681: [04:31:14] <azureRaven> I'm running it all local via mamp.
682: [04:31:20] <azureRaven> I wonder if something is wrongly configured.
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684: [04:31:44] <tractorcow> Hey irc type people
685: [04:31:56] <azureRaven> Aha.
686: [04:31:58] <azureRaven> I think it is.
687: [04:32:01] <Colin[pi]> omg it's tractorcow
688: [04:32:06] * Colin[pi] waves
689: [04:32:10] <tractorcow> Sup :)
690: [04:32:17] <tractorcow> Hi simon_w :)
691: [04:32:19] <zippy> wow...
692: [04:32:42] <zippy> I see the travis cli about this infamous tractorcow but to have him in the channel..
693: [04:32:43] <zippy> wow
694: [04:32:57] <azureRaven> I am honored to be in the presence of a tractorcow
695: [04:32:58] <tractorcow> .... I see my reputation preceeds me :)
696: [04:33:02] <irogue_> HELLO DAMO
697: [04:33:02] <Colin[pi]> lol
698: [04:33:08] <tractorcow> did you enjoy my cruddy commit messages popping up?
699: [04:33:11] <ss23> AND THEN I BECAME tractorcow
700: [04:33:15] <ss23> DESTROYER OF PASSING TESTS
701: [04:33:15] <zippy> tractorcow: nope, just the build ones, usually they say "build failed" or something
702: [04:33:16] * markcl has joined #silverstripe
703: [04:33:22] <Colin[pi]> yeah we all pipe in with "classic damo" whenever they fail
704: [04:33:30] <markcl> Hey guys!
705: [04:33:31] <zippy> he's on fire today!
706: [04:33:38] <tractorcow> Yeah simon politely reminded me that travis pings IRC
707: [04:33:43] <Colin[pi]> ahaha
708: [04:33:50] <irogue_> it was simon_w wasn't it
709: [04:33:54] <tractorcow> Destroyer of builds
710: [04:33:58] <markcl> When I unpublish a Page, the other DataObjects it uses also gets unpublished.
711: [04:34:00] <tractorcow> that's the only one right? :)
712: [04:34:02] <markcl> However
713: [04:34:12] <zippy> azureRaven: check a couple of the other lines in the log, might give you more of a clue whats going on... you might want to use a different 'to address' like the address of your isp is usually sweet
714: [04:34:18] <tractorcow> ANNOUNCEMENT: We will be branching CMS 3.1 into a "travis" branch for testing purpposes.
715: [04:34:19] <markcl> Those DataObjects are used by other pages.
716: [04:34:20] <zippy> azureRaven: email address your isp gave you
717: [04:34:43] <tractorcow> the lifetime of this branch will not be long, but just note that this is entirely planned and not some aberration of tractorcow's deviant mind.
718: [04:34:51] <markcl> When I unpublish a Page, the other DataObjects it uses also gets unpublished.
719: [04:34:51] <Stomach> tractorcow, why not both?
720: [04:34:51] <markcl> However, those DataObjects are used by other pages.
721: [04:34:51] <markcl> How can I make them not get unpublished so the other Pages can still use them?
722: [04:34:52] <Stomach> :D
723: [04:35:22] <tractorcow> Thanks all for your patience :)
724: [04:35:48] <irogue_> markcl: I'm not sure I understand. DataObjects don't normally have a "published" state
725: [04:35:56] <markcl> irogue_: they are gone
726: [04:35:59] <markcl> Removed, deleted
727: [04:36:34] <irogue_> how are you defining the relationship between the page and the dataobjects?
728: [04:36:34] <azureRaven> markcl you could use the modeladmin to make the objects, then connect them via the gridfieldrelationship editor to connect them with the pages.
729: [04:36:54] <Colin[pi]> markcl: do you have some code in onBeforeDelete/onAfterDelete that delete the dataobjects?
730: [04:41:42] <markcl> The thing is, those objects are created on the CMS
731: [04:41:51] <markcl> Using an Admin page
732: [04:42:04] <markcl> ModelAdmin
733: [04:43:59] <markcl> There are no onDeletes or updates as far as I can find
734: [04:44:05] <markcl> before or after
735: [04:44:43] <markcl> After a page lets say Home gets deleted, its contents, lets say Chair gets deleted and also all Chairs like it on other Homes.
736: [04:45:15] <markcl> This Chair has a many to many relation with a Inclusion page that is inside say, Home page.
737: [04:45:43] <azureRaven> zippy no route to host would imply my isp is blocking it, right?
738: [04:46:20] <markcl> All I want is for the Chair to still remain even after unpublishing the House
739: [04:46:40] <markcl> or a way to unpublish in SQL
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741: [04:47:06] <zippy> azureRaven: very quite likely - give them a call
742: [04:47:15] <azureRaven> Ugh... I hate these phone calls. XD
743: [04:47:26] <zippy> azureRaven: or..
744: [04:47:27] <simon_w> markcl, it has to be custom code doing that. Relations do not cascade.
745: [04:47:38] <zippy> azureRaven: you could set the php mail to use the smtp of your isp...
746: [04:48:01] <azureRaven> brb
747: [04:48:41] <markcl> simon_w: How can I check?
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749: [04:49:06] <simon_w> markcl, look at any custom code you've got that ties into the unpublish process
750: [04:49:09] <markcl> I have checked out any on before/after update/deletes and found no specific delete
751: [04:51:04] <bobbyg> Thanks Colin[pi]
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761: [05:33:08] <markcl> Im still stuck with the unpublish problem above
762: [05:33:37] <zippy> markcl: your code, or some module must be doing something to it... it's not normal
763: [05:33:37] <markcl> Is there a way for me to list the SQL queries Silverstripe made on a log file?
764: [05:34:17] <zippy> markcl: you could do a beforeDelete method on your object, and inside there do a backtrace
765: [05:34:42] <zippy> there is the showqueries query param, or you can tell mysql to log all queries
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767: [05:36:33] <zippy> markcl: in the mysqldatabase.php file you just after line 151 you could do something like, file_put_contents('/tmp/queries', $sql, FILE_APPEND);
768: [05:36:48] <zippy> however I would look at that backtrade
769: [05:36:51] <zippy> backtrace
770: [05:37:08] <markcl> im thinking of putting a backtrace and putting it on a file too
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772: [05:39:38] <markcl> Is there a way to just unpublish the page using the database so it doesn't do the delete cascade?
773: [05:40:09] <zippy> markcl: it doesn't by default
774: [05:40:19] <zippy> you need to write code for that to happen
775: [05:40:31] <zippy> [16:47:27] <@simon_w> markcl, it has to be custom code doing that. Relations do not cascade.
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777: [05:43:57] <markcl> zippy: line 151 of MySQLDatabase.php is getGeneratedID
778: [05:44:04] <markcl> should put the file_put_contents there?
779: [05:44:14] <markcl> *should I put the file_put_contents there?
780: [05:44:24] <markcl> Im thinking it maybe inside query function
781: [05:44:24] <zippy> markcl: are you SS 3.1?
782: [05:44:54] <zippy> markcl: but yea, should be in the query function - 151 is for ss 3.1.5
783: [05:46:32] <markcl> thanks zippy
784: [05:47:46] <Colin[pi]> this is something I'd expect the SS office to do: http://imgur.com/gallery/sizjC
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788: [06:11:40] <ss23> rofl Colin[pi], A+
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791: [06:16:50] <Robke> morning ;)
792: [06:17:52] <Colin[pi]> yo Robke
793: [06:18:17] <Robke> how are you this morning? :))
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796: [06:33:52] <Colin[pi]> Robke: not too bad, thanks
797: [06:35:13] <Robke> glad of that :))
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801: [06:47:09] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#1005 (3.1 - fc6f0fe : Damian Mooyman): The build was fixed.
802: [06:47:09] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/87146eac92ec...fc6f0fecc58a
803: [06:47:09] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/32200609
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807: [07:14:52] <Robke> how to write a function which should return the current id oh page :) ?
808: [07:15:27] <Robke> return DataObject::get('className', 'ID='.$this->$ID); ?
809: [07:17:08] <Bollig|DesignCty> Robke: http://doc.silverstripe.com/framework/en/topics/datamodel#returning-a-single-dataobject
810: [07:17:44] <Bollig|DesignCty> e.g., className::get()->byID($this->$ID);
811: [07:18:10] <Robke> ty ;)
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813: [07:28:20] <Robke> is it possible somehow to check with JS current url?
814: [07:28:31] <Robke> live localhost/home do this
815: [07:28:53] <Robke> if current address != localhost/home do other
816: [07:28:54] <Robke> ?
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818: [07:34:03] <Bollig|DesignCty> Robke: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=get+the+current+url+in+jquery :)
819: [07:35:56] <Robke> good sense of humour :)
820: [07:39:02] * Shrike_Finland has joined #silverstripe
821: [07:44:51] <Bollig|DesignCty> Robke: it’s a pretty funny website :)
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825: [07:53:27] <Robke> yeah sure :D
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836: [08:47:09] <zippy> o/
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842: [09:08:52] <Fisix_AIX> Hello, Does the web.config file have any relevance at all on a linux server?
843: [09:09:49] <zippy> nop
844: [09:10:50] <Pywindyk> I would like a T shirt
845: [09:11:03] <Pywindyk> who do I email for this ss23?
846: [09:11:10] <Pywindyk> it's been 2 years.
847: [09:11:26] <Pywindyk> I'm owed 2, in theory.
848: [09:11:32] <Pywindyk> at least
849: [09:11:43] <Pywindyk> don't think I ever quite made it to 3#
850: [09:12:07] <Pywindyk> Fisix_AIX: none whatsoever.
851: [09:12:26] <Fisix_AIX> zippy, Pywindyk Ok great, thanks
852: [09:12:41] <Pywindyk> it's IIS specific afaik.
853: [09:16:54] <Fisix_AIX> If I want to add a custom value to the http header how would I do this on a linux server?
854: [09:17:34] <zippy> well
855: [09:17:43] <zippy> in the apache config, in the htaccess or in php
856: [09:17:56] <zippy> What are you trying to do / why
857: [09:18:48] <Fisix_AIX> A client needs to add a specific setting, something to do with their intranet
858: [09:19:44] <zippy> ok, so it's site specific so would probably use .htaccess
859: [09:20:02] <zippy> Header add Foo "bar"
860: [09:20:05] <zippy> I think would do it
861: [09:20:16] <zippy> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_headers.html
862: [09:20:17] <Fisix_AIX> ok great, ill look it up
863: [09:23:59] <zippy> Pywindyk: here is ya tshirt http://imgur.com/n5ZoHXN
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865: [09:33:54] <Fisix_AIX> My friend is having trouble with url rewrites, Is there anything specific that needs to be done when doing url rewrites to stop index.php showing, or is he just doing it wrong?
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867: [09:36:53] <ss23> Pywindyk: Uh, talk to Cam man!
868: [09:37:13] <Pywindyk> ss23: so cam is the new Kristen right?
869: [09:37:19] <Pywindyk> Kirsten?
870: [09:37:22] <Pywindyk> one of them
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872: [09:41:47] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#994 (master - ae8911d : Simon Welsh): The build passed.
873: [09:41:47] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/d140fa0b5e0a...ae8911d7ae81
874: [09:41:47] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/32075739
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876: [09:41:56] <ss23> idk
877: [09:41:56] <ss23> :O
878: [09:44:23] <simon_w|air> Pywindyk, he's the Community Aggrevation Manager!
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888: [10:24:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#2771 (2.4 - 4b757ea : Simon Welsh): The build passed.
889: [10:24:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/2dad3b0f5a8c...4b757ea912d5
890: [10:24:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/28751636
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894: [10:36:55] <Pywindyk> hmm, aggrivation manager?
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904: [11:22:36] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/af4b6c955a02...b802a3ffb14b
905: [11:22:36] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/32218196
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912: [11:59:32] <kinglozzer> Q: Most efficient way of checking a page of class 'XPageType' is somewhere below the current page? Current thinking is loop recursively through all children, grandchildren etc and return true if any of them are XPageType instances. Is there any nicer way of doing it?
913: [12:00:13] <kinglozzer> Might just do it and use partial caching as it'll be a bit of a database hog
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924: [13:00:15] <shellbackpacific> hey folks…in the Reports section in the CMS - "has broken file" … what exactly could this mean? PDFs, links ?
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930: [13:31:40] <NETim> Hi, Got a leftandmain extension, does providePermissions still work the same?
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932: [13:33:11] <Pywindyk> WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!
933: [13:33:11] <Pywindyk> https://github.com/EllisLab/CodeIgniter/blob/2.1.3/system/core/CodeIgniter.php#L107
934: [13:33:28] <NETim> hm...
935: [13:33:44] <Pywindyk> 3 days later, he finds the mysterious script fucker. And was it an issue with anything but CodeIgniter core? NO.
936: [13:33:58] <Pywindyk> Fucking useless heap of shit. How the fuck did this ever become popular in the first place
937: [13:34:14] <Pywindyk> NETim: yes.
938: [13:34:30] <Pywindyk> shellbackpacific: dunno, assume File.
939: [13:34:39] <NETim> cheers, just doesn't seem to be working at the moment.
940: [13:34:45] <shellbackpacific> thanks
941: [13:34:46] <Pywindyk> NETim: build
942: [13:35:03] <NETim> yup
943: [13:35:16] <Pywindyk> implementing the interface and all taht?
944: [13:35:27] <NETim> added the new func to the LM extension, dev/build
945: [13:35:41] <Pywindyk> yeah, you need to implement the interface.
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947: [13:35:57] <NETim> yep. It's extending leftandmain which should be implementing the interface right?
948: [13:36:09] <NETim> or am I being thick?
949: [13:36:53] <NETim> ok, I was being thick.
950: [13:37:18] <NETim> thanks for the pointer.
951: [13:37:44] <Pywindyk> yeah. Also say subclass rather than extension.
952: [13:37:59] <Pywindyk> 'extension' is ambiguious
953: [13:38:23] <NETim> fair point.
954: [13:39:07] <Pywindyk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qq6dQwLh1s
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956: [13:40:23] <kinglozzer> Pywindyk: Hahahahaha
957: [13:40:26] <kinglozzer> Derpigniter
958: [13:40:43] <Pywindyk> Who the fuck in their right mind would wait 5 fucking minutes for a webpage to load?
959: [13:40:53] <kinglozzer> Hahahahahaha, amazing
960: [13:40:55] <Pywindyk> let alone that HTTP connection will have probably dropped by that point.
961: [13:41:33] <Pywindyk> and it overrides whatever the sysadmin has set (albiet insecurely) in php.ini?
962: [13:41:41] <Pywindyk> DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP
963: [13:44:36] <NETim> Pywindyk, I thought you hated CI? howcome you're reading through the core? wanted a laugh?
964: [13:48:07] <Pywindyk> NETim: supporting legacy code.
965: [13:48:16] <NETim> ah, not so funny then.
966: [13:48:46] <Pywindyk> yeah as I said. A team of devs been conused for 3+ days on why the fuck this script just terminated mid way through when run from commandline.
967: [13:48:52] <Pywindyk> turns out, DERP DERP TIME LIMIT
968: [13:49:10] <Pywindyk> grepped all over the place for max_execution_time
969: [13:49:24] <Pywindyk> but of course PHP has a fucking obscure specific method for it.
970: [13:49:41] <Pywindyk> leh sigh.
971: [13:49:58] <Pywindyk> But yeh, I hate CI.
972: [13:50:01] <Pywindyk> with great passion.
973: [13:50:57] <NETim> there is a max_exec time directive in PHP.ini
974: [13:51:12] <Pywindyk> [14:49] <Pywindyk> grepped all over the place for max_execution_time [14:49] <Pywindyk> but of course PHP has a fucking obscure specific method for it.
975: [13:51:33] <Pywindyk> http://php.net/manual/en/function.set-time-limit.php
976: [13:51:34] <NETim> your confusion still confuses me a little?
977: [13:51:48] <NETim> ah, you meant in the CI core
978: [13:51:51] <Pywindyk> I'm not confused.
979: [13:51:52] <Pywindyk> yeh.
980: [13:52:10] <Pywindyk> [14:33] <Pywindyk> https://github.com/EllisLab/CodeIgniter/blob/2.1.3/system/core/CodeIgniter.php#L107
981: [13:52:18] <NETim> saw that one earlier.
982: [13:52:24] <Pywindyk> herpty derp derp
983: [13:52:29] <Pywindyk> so bad.
984: [13:52:39] <NETim> try Magento if you want max-derp factor.
985: [13:52:47] <Pywindyk> nah I'll pass thanks.
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987: [13:53:22] <NETim> this->dothat->tothis->witthis->keepsgoing->nearlythere->onlyjoking->haha->_fuck_me();
988: [13:53:24] <Pywindyk> Prestashop seems derp, but at least is mostly only annoying.
989: [13:53:50] <NETim> btw, apart from names, that's a common length getter/setter in Magento
990: [13:54:14] <Pywindyk> fuck_you('indeed'):<
991: [13:54:37] <NETim> no, no, its _fuck_you(), Mage devs like to screw with notation at random points
992: [13:54:42] <Pywindyk> also, the fuck is with this superderp fucking bullshit convention of _blah == private
993: [13:54:52] <NETim> yep
994: [13:54:54] <Pywindyk> FUCK NO DICKHEADS, THE KEYWORD private MAKES SHIT PRIVATE, FUCK
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996: [13:55:11] <Pywindyk> [14:39] <Pywindyk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qq6dQwLh1s
997: [13:55:18] <NETim> but Mage devs don't follow any pattern with it. functions/vars you'd expect to be private arent
998: [13:55:36] <Pywindyk> yeh, sounds like Magento was built on CI tbh.
999: [13:55:47] <Pywindyk> or perhaps from ground up by CI devs.
1000: [13:55:58] <Pywindyk> derpty doo
1001: [13:56:08] <NETim> magento was built on the dried up expired hopes and dreams of thousands of hopeful developers who made a wrong choice somewhere
1002: [13:56:16] <Pywindyk> lulz
1003: [13:56:46] <NETim> http://ourcatsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/tumblr_m0zvzuxeoT1r588ldo1_400.png
1004: [13:57:05] <NETim> It's called magento support...
1005: [14:00:27] <NETim> Permission::deny, second arguement is the perm code, anyway of getting it to deny all?
1006: [14:00:42] <Pywindyk> eh?
1007: [14:01:28] <NETim> trying to remove all perms and add a special perm in
1008: [14:01:51] <NETim> only certain users will have the special perm based on some conditions.
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1010: [14:10:14] <NETim> still there pywindyk?
1011: [14:14:33] <NETim> oh my, I've killed him...
1012: [14:15:04] <Pywindyk> nah I was learning about cubes
1013: [14:15:09] <NETim> ah
1014: [14:15:25] <NETim> geometric or numeric?
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1022: [14:50:30] <NETim> ok, anything wrong with this: Permission::deny($groupID, $permCode, "any")
1023: [14:50:31] <NETim> ?
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1027: [14:53:30] <NETim> anyone?
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1030: [15:09:44] <Pywindyk> NETim: eh?
1031: [15:09:50] <Pywindyk> nah the metaphysical kind.
1032: [15:09:56] <NETim> ah.
1033: [15:10:06] <NETim> Any ideas about the perms line i asked about?
1034: [15:10:17] <Pywindyk> multidimentional databases.
1035: [15:10:21] <Pywindyk> OLAP
1036: [15:10:24] <Pywindyk> whatever.
1037: [15:10:27] <Pywindyk> also, no, none.
1038: [15:10:34] <Pywindyk> I didn't look at the API docs yet.
1039: [15:10:49] <NETim> ok. That is the right way to set perms though isn't it?
1040: [15:10:58] <Pywindyk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-Permission.html#_deny
1041: [15:11:04] <Pywindyk> no?
1042: [15:11:12] <NETim> that's what I'm basing it on.
1043: [15:11:16] <Pywindyk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-Permission.html#_check
1044: [15:11:54] <Pywindyk> I dunno what you're up to.
1045: [15:12:21] <Pywindyk> you've put out a bit of sporadic info, but nothing really that gives a decent picture
1046: [15:14:25] <NETim> Sorry, Trying to remove some permissions from user groups by using an extension. If the user hasn't paid their subscription, they can only access on part of the CMS.
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1053: [15:43:44] <NETim> Pywindyk, just an FYI for you if you ever want to do perms from a controller, Permission::grant and ::deny, just add new records to the permissions table. the result is frustrating as it seems to favor a grant over a deny.
1054: [15:44:22] <Pywindyk> NETim: yeah, I gathered as much because docs.
1055: [15:44:48] <Pywindyk> but I think it'll be whichever gets queried first as to which gets preferred
1056: [15:46:10] <NETim> Where in the docs did you see that?
1057: [15:46:57] <NETim> or was it an assumption based on the deny and grant methods not removing existing records?
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1059: [15:58:44] <catcher> Is this really the best way to provide a custom message on a 404 response? http://www.silverstripe.org/general-questions/show/15289
1060: [15:58:48] <catcher> Also, hello
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1062: [16:06:13] <Pywindyk> NETim: nothing removes records, it's all about the switches.
1063: [16:06:20] <Pywindyk> NETim: api.silverstripe.org
1064: [16:07:27] <Pywindyk> catcher: what is your question?
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1066: [16:09:56] <catcher> if there's a better way to provide a custom message for a 404 response. i.e. ContentController has an httpError method that takes a $message, but nada
1067: [16:10:27] <catcher> I need to specify the message at the controller level.
1068: [16:15:15] <Pywindyk> does ErrorPage not let you put custom content into it?
1069: [16:15:48] <catcher> Pywindyk, I need to put controller data in, not customize the general template
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1071: [16:16:02] <Pywindyk> catcher: that's what I meant.
1072: [16:16:12] <Pywindyk> and no, ErrorPage is statically published.
1073: [16:16:20] <Pywindyk> every time.
1074: [16:16:34] <catcher> So custom response in the controller is the best bet
1075: [16:16:39] <catcher> Well, the only bet
1076: [16:16:47] <Pywindyk> well, no, but yes, but no and yes.
1077: [16:17:18] <catcher> right, except yes but no.
1078: [16:17:25] <Pywindyk> well no, but yes.
1079: [16:17:39] <catcher> I gotcha. I'm lost.
1080: [16:17:55] <Pywindyk> there are things you could do, but that ugly hack is probably easiest if it works.
1081: [16:18:38] <Pywindyk> httpError throws an exception iirc, which you could catch... maybe.
1082: [16:19:08] <Pywindyk> that or just implement httpError, try{parent::httpError()}catch(Exception $e){...}
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1084: [16:19:20] <Pywindyk> probably easier, and backwards sexable.
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1086: [16:20:10] <Pywindyk> or be all if(404)do some custom shit else parent::httperrror
1087: [16:20:14] <Pywindyk> something like that
1088: [16:20:22] <Pywindyk> much cleaner, and all that or something.
1089: [16:21:10] <Pywindyk> anyway, good luck with that.
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1091: [16:21:13] <catcher> Or, $response->404.message=yay, $response->lunchtime=now
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1110: [20:02:47] <Kingy> morning ya'll
1111: [20:06:07] <Stomach> morning
1112: [20:08:36] <Kingy> how ya going Stomach
1113: [20:08:53] <Stomach> hungover :(
1114: [20:08:58] <Stomach> had a big spew this morning
1115: [20:09:04] <Stomach> poor decisions were made.
1116: [20:09:19] <Stomach> how about yourself?
1117: [20:09:46] <Kingy> my stay overnight in Feilding last night
1118: [20:09:52] <Kingy> so I got to sleep in until 7:30
1119: [20:09:56] <Kingy> and get to leave work at 4
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1121: [20:13:42] <Stomach> that sounds like a good deal
1122: [20:14:11] <Kingy> yeah
1123: [20:14:14] <Kingy> and work from home tomorrow
1124: [20:14:32] <Kingy> but then thursday friday is wake up at 5 to catch train and not get home until 7:30pm
1125: [20:14:41] <Kingy> so the end of the week is balls
1126: [20:15:04] <Stomach> at least your week is varied? :D
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1128: [20:16:53] <Kingy> yeah i'd rather the wake up at 7:30 and be home at 5:30
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1130: [20:20:47] <catcher> Someone have a relatively high traffic site in SS?
1131: [20:21:29] <Stomach> not really, highest we have is ~1000 visits a day :D
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1133: [20:22:02] <Pyromanik> hi hi
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1135: [20:32:01] <Stomach> hey Pyromanik
1136: [20:33:38] <Pyromanik> hihi2u
1137: [20:33:51] <Pyromanik> that cam guy never comes into irc
1138: [20:34:00] <Pyromanik> for a community manager and all...
1139: [20:34:52] <Stomach> they don't like us
1140: [20:34:53] <Pyromanik> fuck. hungry, half past nine, nothing to eat (that's easy before bed). Urge to pizza rizing :<
1141: [20:35:08] <Pyromanik> Stomach, who, the community or the cam?
1142: [20:35:22] <Stomach> the community :D
1143: [20:35:22] <Pyromanik> I want a T shirt!
1144: [20:35:25] <Pyromanik> :<
1145: [20:35:41] <Pyromanik> someone needs to know that I'm technically owed two.
1146: [20:36:30] <Pyromanik> But because I'm a good guy I'll settle for none.
1147: [20:36:53] <Pyromanik> although if I was sent one if it could be here within the week, that'd be great.
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1149: [20:38:46] <Pyromanik> lol 'full stack experience!' - pretty sure still no one knows what that means.
1150: [20:39:53] <Pyromanik> hahaha, "An excellent understanding of MVC [..] (required:Wordp...:"
1151: [20:39:58] <Pyromanik> LOL, NOPE
1152: [20:40:05] <Pyromanik> fuck'n recruiters, I swear.
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1156: [20:45:38] <Kingy> catcher: what do you call high traffic?
1157: [20:45:54] <vebb> morning
1158: [20:46:06] <vebb> i'm so cold
1159: [20:46:17] <Kingy> snowing again?
1160: [20:46:20] <vebb> 3C
1161: [20:46:23] <vebb> ffS
1162: [20:46:45] <Kingy> 9.5 here apparently
1163: [20:47:19] <vebb> can't wait for the new offices
1164: [20:47:23] <vebb> more parking over there
1165: [20:47:43] <Kingy> <3 Feilding office
1166: [20:47:47] <Kingy> 10m walk to the door from car
1167: [20:47:53] <Pyromanik> councils?
1168: [20:48:02] <vebb> you're not in fielding cock
1169: [20:48:11] <Kingy> vebb: yes i am
1170: [20:48:34] <Kingy> mon/tues
1171: [20:48:35] <Pyromanik> lol, he's in fielding cock.
1172: [20:48:37] <vebb> no you're not
1173: [20:48:44] <vebb> you're in gayton
1174: [20:48:46] <Pyromanik> didn't know we had docker experts in here
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1176: [20:49:03] <vebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayton
1177: [20:49:07] <Pyromanik> so would you recommend docker over say... vagrant?
1178: [20:49:07] <vebb> there's a few!
1179: [20:49:10] <vebb> lol
1180: [20:49:13] <vebb> you're funny.
1181: [20:49:31] <Pyromanik> do you dock with vagrants vebb ?
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1183: [20:50:08] <Pyromanik> I'm fuck'n hilarious.
1184: [20:50:18] <Pyromanik> also, I... am hungry :(
1185: [20:50:33] <vebb> i'm eating a danish
1186: [20:50:40] <Pyromanik> I want cheese.
1187: [20:50:42] <Pyromanik> and bread.
1188: [20:50:42] <Stomach> why not a swede
1189: [20:50:46] <Pyromanik> like pizza.
1190: [20:50:50] <vebb> anyone heard of 'who ate the pies'?
1191: [20:50:54] <vebb> Stomach: oh so funny
1192: [20:51:01] <vebb> anyone want some turkey?
1193: [20:51:04] <Pyromanik> Well I'd love to eat a swede... but I think my missus would have somethnig to say about that.
1194: [20:51:49] <Pyromanik> oh, I've got tomatoes.
1195: [20:52:24] <Pyromanik> but what I don't have, is a T shirt to ubergeek out in.
1196: [20:53:33] <Pyromanik> fuck'n bonus, found a sneaky chocolate bar.
1197: [20:53:58] <Pyromanik> what the hell do you do in Fielding Kingy ?
1198: [20:54:10] <Kingy> work?
1199: [20:55:50] <vebb> he's not in fielding
1200: [20:55:53] <vebb> FFS
1201: [20:56:00] <vebb> hey Kingy
1202: [20:56:05] <vebb> I know someone in Fielding
1203: [20:56:16] <Kingy> oh yeah?
1204: [20:56:24] <vebb> she may need a hug
1205: [20:56:44] <Kingy> uh-huh
1206: [20:56:54] <vebb> you folks use trello?
1207: [20:57:08] <Kingy> some people at work do
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1209: [20:57:10] <Kingy> i don't
1210: [20:57:56] <vebb> you should... for a t-- oh
1211: [20:57:57] <vebb> sorry
1212: [20:58:23] <Kingy> antmas: did you end up using youshop?
1213: [20:58:29] <vebb> ffs Kingy
1214: [20:58:45] <vebb> i shouldve trademarked that name
1215: [20:59:10] <vebb> 7 years ago I created youhop
1216: [20:59:16] * vebb cries his wee eyes
1217: [21:00:52] <Kingy> I should've trademarked wysiwyg
1218: [21:02:01] <antmas> howdy all
1219: [21:02:07] <vebb> Kingy: this is true
1220: [21:02:11] <vebb> you were like... 14
1221: [21:02:11] <antmas> Kingy: nup not yet, was bill week last week :P
1222: [21:02:39] <vebb> Kingy, when he was about 13 or 14, actually came up with the term WYIWYG
1223: [21:02:45] <Kingy> antmas: good, here is a 25% off coupon: howabout25
1224: [21:02:59] <Kingy> vebb: I just looked on wikipedia, apparently it was first used in 1969
1225: [21:03:07] <vebb> oh okay then you suck
1226: [21:03:08] <vebb> sorry
1227: [21:03:11] <Kingy> lol
1228: [21:03:33] <vebb> Kingy... we... kind of were ahead of our game tbh
1229: [21:03:36] <Pyromanik> fuck, that moment when you find some indian style chick peas left over from the take out the other night, so you stick one in your mouth, then realise 'the other night' was a few hours over 1 week ago.
1230: [21:03:46] <Pyromanik> *spit*, wash down with juice.
1231: [21:03:49] <Stomach> anyone ever get net::ERR_CONTENT_LENGTH_MISMATCH in the CMS?
1232: [21:03:51] <antmas> Kingy: :D chur
1233: [21:04:00] <vebb> this is SUCH a NZ channel
1234: [21:04:09] <Pyromanik> realise juice says 'drink within 3 days after opening' - it's been there over 2 weeks (open).
1235: [21:04:13] <vebb> I get weird text(looks) from people in other channels
1236: [21:04:25] <antmas> Pyromanik: drink it, live the dream
1237: [21:04:32] <Pyromanik> antmas, I did.
1238: [21:04:39] <Pyromanik> too late now. tasted fine
1239: [21:04:52] <Pyromanik> Takes more than that to bring me down.
1240: [21:06:15] <Pyromanik> LOLOLOL
1241: [21:06:28] <Pyromanik> moved onto the shit that never goes bad (fast) - chocolate bar.
1242: [21:06:43] <Pyromanik> "Soft on top with a chrispy bottom" - JUST HOW I LIKE MY WOMEN
1243: [21:07:14] <antmas> ew crispy bottom
1244: [21:08:10] <catcher> Kingy, maybe 30k sessions per day?
1245: [21:08:20] <Pyromanik> the hell are you thinking about antmas?
1246: [21:08:38] <Pyromanik> dried dags or something you filthy sheep shagger?
1247: [21:09:16] <antmas> prXD
1248: [21:09:18] <antmas> lol
1249: [21:09:42] <antmas> Pyromanik: what are you a pom now?
1250: [21:10:28] * antmas waits for someone to go downstairs to get more coffee
1251: [21:11:00] <Pyromanik> fuck no. I mean I can whinge like the best, but that's just because I'm a fuck'n kiwi - where nothing happens so we make shit up to have a fucking cry over
1252: [21:11:25] <Pyromanik> but I ain't no pom
1253: [21:11:48] <antmas> rofl
1254: [21:12:01] <antmas> we do complain over seemingly nothing
1255: [21:12:17] <Pyromanik> ironically when we make shit to whinge about, it's often flying in the face of a real issue (often unrelated).
1256: [21:14:08] <antmas> lets not make this Political Rant Day 2
1257: [21:14:11] <antmas> :P
1258: [21:14:39] <Pyromanik> like in Iraq the IS arseholes are doing an 'ethnic' cleanse (religious, but same shit), meanwhile in NZ, front page news PET LAMB RIDES SKATEBOARD
1259: [21:15:17] <Pyromanik> ... CAUSES TRAFFIC ACCIDENT
1260: [21:15:31] <Pyromanik> waah should be some kind of law to stop pets from being in traffic, etc etc
1261: [21:17:07] <Pyromanik> urgh, is composer.lock supposed to be committed?
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1263: [21:17:42] <Pyromanik> Stomach, sounds like forward proxy fiddling with datas
1264: [21:17:55] <Pyromanik> truncating perhaps
1265: [21:19:22] <vebb> lol'd
1266: [21:19:24] <vebb> lightbox followed me
1267: [21:19:26] * irogue_ has joined #silverstripe
1268: [21:19:38] <vebb> Kingy: I actually do know a guy in your area
1269: [21:19:42] <vebb> he's on our "team"
1270: [21:19:58] <Kingy> from Feilding?
1271: [21:20:03] <vebb> Kingy built this: https://web.archive.org/web/20070104052344/http://zulumonkey.org/?
1272: [21:20:10] <vebb> 2006!
1273: [21:20:16] <Kingy> lol
1274: [21:20:17] <Pyromanik> .org?
1275: [21:20:28] <vebb> we were young
1276: [21:20:30] <Kingy> Neil?
1277: [21:20:38] <Pyromanik> lol
1278: [21:20:39] <Kingy> was that his name
1279: [21:20:39] <vebb> he stole our code
1280: [21:20:41] <vebb> shut the fuck up
1281: [21:20:45] <vebb> fucking ripper lamer
1282: [21:20:49] <vebb> noob
1283: [21:20:50] <Pyromanik> You guys know Niel Young!?
1284: [21:20:53] <Pyromanik> :P
1285: [21:20:54] <vebb> no
1286: [21:21:03] <vebb> unless he's south african
1287: [21:21:03] <Olliepop> "Well my fellow Zulumonkey people"
1288: [21:21:37] <Kingy> pretty sure he got a good price for it as well
1289: [21:21:38] <vebb> Neil is AU
1290: [21:21:43] * howardgrigg quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
1291: [21:21:45] <vebb> nah don't think he sold it
1292: [21:22:00] <Pyromanik> zulumonkey.org 302 => fuckfrance.com/solong.html
1293: [21:22:17] <vebb> rofl
1294: [21:22:41] <Kingy> can't believe techgear is still going
1295: [21:23:07] <vebb> wtf
1296: [21:23:08] <vebb> link
1297: [21:23:40] <Kingy> http://tg007.net
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1300: [21:24:28] <Pyromanik> simon_w, what did you mean by community aggrivator?
1301: [21:24:36] <Olliepop> or zymic: http://www.zymic.com/
1302: [21:24:38] <vebb> Kingy: fuck me
1303: [21:25:20] <Kingy> vebb: and http://exonyte.com/
1304: [21:25:34] <Stomach> Pyromanik, yes commit composer.lock
1305: [21:25:37] <vebb> lols
1306: [21:25:50] <Pyromanik> oic Stomach
1307: [21:25:52] <Pyromanik> hmm
1308: [21:26:05] <Stomach> otherwise how do you know where the dependencies are at in a project?
1309: [21:26:11] <Pyromanik> annoying coz it updates all the time and I don't want it to, infact, fuck composer it just brings in broken shit to the project.
1310: [21:26:13] <Stomach> cant do install, only update
1311: [21:26:27] <Pyromanik> in sort, fuck composer.
1312: [21:26:30] <simon_w> Pyromanik, he's rather good at aggravating people in the community
1313: [21:26:49] <Pyromanik> simon_w, other than that irc remark... what else?
1314: [21:26:59] <Kingy> vebb: http://exonyte.com/
1315: [21:27:01] <Kingy> wait
1316: [21:27:05] <Kingy> http://ignition-project.com/
1317: [21:27:34] <vebb> Kingy: can you rm -rf devhour
1318: [21:27:36] <vebb> and come join me?
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1320: [21:27:50] <vebb> i booted booface
1321: [21:28:00] <Kingy> :(
1322: [21:28:04] <Kingy> can i not rm -rf
1323: [21:28:08] <Kingy> and still join you :)
1324: [21:28:17] <Pyromanik> simon_w, pm if you wanna rant :P
1325: [21:29:09] <simon_w> Pyromanik, he pops up, asks you to do something without any support then disappears
1326: [21:29:19] <vebb> Kingy: no
1327: [21:29:29] <vebb> together we can achieve greatness
1328: [21:29:29] <Pyromanik> without support
1329: [21:29:33] <Pyromanik> I'm confused.
1330: [21:29:35] <Pyromanik> but that's ok.
1331: [21:29:38] <Kingy> k
1332: [21:29:43] <Pyromanik> I want to set up a development environmwent.
1333: [21:32:11] <irogue_> have I ever mentioned how much I hate mornings?
1334: [21:33:14] <Pyromanik> irogue, get a V
1335: [21:33:20] <Pyromanik> I'd send you one, but they don't got it here.
1336: [21:33:48] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: Pretty much this week http://i.imgur.com/Xsmga.gif
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1338: [21:34:25] <Pyromanik> wholey shit it's micmania1
1339: [21:34:30] <Pyromanik> hi2u
1340: [21:34:36] <Pyromanik> new place looks so legit
1341: [21:35:04] <micmania1> areet
1342: [21:35:10] <micmania1> I just moved in yesterday
1343: [21:35:18] <micmania1> had no idea where i was going this morning but i made it haha
1344: [21:35:24] <irogue_> haha, congrats
1345: [21:35:25] <micmania1> I now have no idea how to get back.
1346: [21:35:51] <irogue_> micmania1: well, luckily, silverstripe makes this website that tells you how to get places via public transport in wellington :P
1347: [21:36:26] <micmania1> meh. it was only half an hours walk and i’m pretty sure i went the longest possible way
1348: [21:36:29] <Pyromanik> oh yeah that bus site that has the airport 4 times in it
1349: [21:36:47] <Pyromanik> micmania1, just follow the coast until it looks familiar :P
1350: [21:36:52] <Pyromanik> you and your ocean views.
1351: [21:37:01] <Pyromanik> by ocean you mean harbour though really right?
1352: [21:37:10] <micmania1> i dno. water
1353: [21:37:13] <Pyromanik> lol
1354: [21:37:21] <Pyromanik> salt water. it counts I guess :P
1355: [21:38:19] <Pyromanik> micmania1, so this project, what was the dev folder for?
1356: [21:38:27] <Pyromanik> folder/module
1357: [21:38:51] <micmania1> oh, the ftrackdev was going to be a separate module that I was only using for dev
1358: [21:39:05] <Pyromanik> 'going to be' - so isn't
1359: [21:39:07] <Pyromanik> ?
1360: [21:39:07] <micmania1> ie. to create database entries before the project had an interface
1361: [21:39:16] <Pyromanik> right, prepopulate shit.
1362: [21:39:24] <Pyromanik> ok cool, so I can safely ignore it.
1363: [21:39:26] <micmania1> well, nah. it should be cleaned up and moved into the main project as those things are actually needed
1364: [21:39:30] <Pyromanik> thought so, just wanted to check.
1365: [21:39:34] <Pyromanik> oh
1366: [21:39:35] <Pyromanik> fuck, lol
1367: [21:39:39] <micmania1> but at the time that wasn’t the plan
1368: [21:39:47] <irogue_> "too late, shift+deleted"
1369: [21:39:52] <micmania1> lol
1370: [21:39:59] <Pyromanik> irogue, git checkout
1371: [21:40:02] <irogue_> :P
1372: [21:40:03] <Pyromanik> ;D
1373: [21:40:09] <Pyromanik> also nah, didn't del yet.
1374: [21:40:09] <micmania1> yeah, you should be on a branch anyway :p
1375: [21:40:21] <irogue_> branch all the things
1376: [21:40:23] <Pyromanik> still not editing shit, still didn't reply yet.
1377: [21:40:39] <micmania1> ah right
1378: [21:40:40] <Pyromanik> just checking out, seeing what is what.
1379: [21:40:44] <micmania1> there’s a fuck load of work left
1380: [21:40:56] <Pyromanik> making sense of it slowly, because wholey shit apigen is retard.
1381: [21:41:01] <Pyromanik> not just that, but FULL retard.
1382: [21:41:19] <micmania1> yeah, its been completely broke for months.
1383: [21:41:26] <micmania1> might be worth trying phpdoc2
1384: [21:41:37] <Pyromanik> same shit different lib?
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1386: [21:41:56] <Pyromanik> irogue, akl office knows how to get shit done.
1387: [21:42:01] <Pyromanik> send me a shirt before next week.
1388: [21:42:22] <micmania1> Pyromanik: yep. ApiGen used to work...
1389: [21:42:27] <micmania1> there’s a ticket about it being broken
1390: [21:42:41] <Pyromanik> haha, slow fuckers didn't fix yet?
1391: [21:42:44] <irogue_> Pyromanik: best bet would be talk to Janine
1392: [21:42:50] <Pyromanik> I tried a composer update, but no success
1393: [21:42:52] <micmania1> Pyromanik: https://github.com/apigen/apigen/issues/292
1394: [21:43:02] <Pyromanik> just made git status report all this shit I give no fucks about.
1395: [21:43:33] <micmania1> I had to add the dependency which improved it
1396: [21:43:41] <Pyromanik> micmania1, how you finding US kb layout?
1397: [21:43:42] <micmania1> but you still need ot make manual changes to the code
1398: [21:43:52] <micmania1> My only issue is @ and “
1399: [21:44:14] <Pyromanik> I'm stuck in this fucking weird place where no matter which kb I'm on I reach for the wrong keys beteen " and @
1400: [21:44:19] <micmania1> I’m learning mac :(
1401: [21:44:27] <Pyromanik> lol bl2u
1402: [21:44:36] <Pyromanik> just console all the things and no issue ;P
1403: [21:45:28] <irogue_> micmania1: you didn't want to join ss23 in "laughed at for using windows" club? :P
1404: [21:45:29] <micmania1> I have been
1405: [21:45:32] <micmania1> but its different to linux
1406: [21:45:38] <micmania1> i’ve been using vagrant
1407: [21:45:48] <irogue_> vagrant <3
1408: [21:45:55] <micmania1> irogue_: maybe
1409: [21:46:04] <micmania1> I’m giving mac a try first
1410: [21:46:08] <micmania1> if i don’t like it then i can switch
1411: [21:46:12] <irogue_> you get used to it
1412: [21:46:30] * irogue_ is OS-agnostic
1413: [21:46:32] <Pyromanik> it's true, you do.
1414: [21:46:49] * catcher quit (Quit: Leaving)
1415: [21:46:56] <Pyromanik> I've not used mac for extended periods, if I moved onto one I'd have issues, but mostly I'm fine with general shit
1416: [21:46:58] <Pyromanik> and console.
1417: [21:47:02] <Pyromanik> <3 cli
1418: [21:47:13] <irogue_> the only thing you never really stop doing is accidentally fucking up between control+blah and cmd+blah when you switch between osx and windows
1419: [21:47:25] * Pyromanik is hooking himself up with some sqlserver training
1420: [21:47:25] <Pyromanik> lol
1421: [21:47:34] <Pyromanik> I feel so filthy, but hey upskilling is upskilling
1422: [21:48:02] <irogue_> true that
1423: [21:48:04] <Pyromanik> then i'll have more winduhz knowledge
1424: [21:48:13] <irogue_> after all, antmas goes to sharepoint conferences
1425: [21:48:14] <Pyromanik> get into some AD shit too if I can.
1426: [21:48:14] <irogue_> :P
1427: [21:48:18] <Pyromanik> lol
1428: [21:48:22] <Pyromanik> I'm not that keen :P
1429: [21:48:26] <Pyromanik> bl2u antmas
1430: [21:48:43] <Pyromanik> I had a ticket come through last week "On the sharepont" LOL NOPE
1431: [21:48:49] <Pyromanik> just flicked it to someone else, haha
1432: [21:49:09] * srikanth has joined #silverstripe
1433: [21:49:12] <Pyromanik> turns out NO ONE in IT/Systems knows shit about it, what it does, what it's used for, and who maintains it
1434: [21:49:19] <irogue_> micmania1: you're in ops right?
1435: [21:49:21] <Pyromanik> and who uses it
1436: [21:49:47] <micmania1> irogue_: yep
1437: [21:50:30] <irogue_> sweet, I'll harass you next time I need something done and ss23's still at home fapping :P
1438: [21:50:51] <antmas> Pyromanik: yeah try being tasked with building an entire corporate intranet when no one knows sharepoint :O
1439: [21:51:26] <Pyromanik> micmania1, haha, the system as a whole still confuses me a bit, although I technically haFUCK YOU TRACKPADve an idea of what happens at each point with the code, the overall process is a bit... yeah.
1440: [21:51:47] * zippy has joined #silverstripe
1441: [21:52:09] <irogue_> o_O
1442: [21:52:12] <irogue_> O_o
1443: [21:52:25] <Pyromanik> I mean, as to what actually gets reviewed.
1444: [21:52:47] <irogue_> accidentally a macro key? :P
1445: [21:52:52] <Pyromanik> I get that peoiple make corp structure and all, then add review questions... but what it's supposed to show etc is eurgh.
1446: [21:54:02] <Pyromanik> irogue, no, reaching to keyboard on laptop, base knuckle (by wrist) to middle knuckle (by webbing) touches on touchpad, moves mouse, selects text, type over whated already
1447: [21:54:12] <Pyromanik> what I already typed, fuck you perfect example.
1448: [21:54:41] <irogue_> haha
1449: [21:54:49] <Pyromanik> eg when reaching for y
1450: [21:54:53] <Pyromanik> hand lies a bit flatter
1451: [21:55:01] <Pyromanik> boom, fuck you text, hope you didn't need that, etc.
1452: [21:56:55] * Colin[pi] has joined #silverstripe
1453: [21:57:36] <antmas> oh god
1454: [21:57:46] <antmas> flat corded headphones are the worst
1455: [21:57:48] <antmas> WHY
1456: [22:00:32] <Pyromanik> THEY ARE?
1457: [22:01:17] <antmas> they get tangled just by looking at them
1458: [22:01:50] <irogue_> ah, like ipod earphones
1459: [22:04:56] <Pyromanik> antmas, so... like any kind of corded headphone?
1460: [22:05:26] <Colin[pi]> morning all
1461: [22:05:48] <Pyromanik> hi Colin[pi]
1462: [22:06:03] <Pyromanik> gutentag, frauline
1463: [22:07:10] <Pyromanik> yeah that's right, I just insulted you in poorly spelt German! hurry up and take notice :M
1464: [22:07:24] <vebb> does anyone even hackernews in here?
1465: [22:07:25] * joelpittet has joined #silverstripe
1466: [22:07:36] <Pyromanik> ss23, does, why/
1467: [22:07:37] <Pyromanik> ?
1468: [22:07:48] <vebb> lol ss23 I know him.
1469: [22:07:58] <Pyromanik> do you?
1470: [22:08:12] <vebb> from IRC
1471: [22:08:18] <Pyromanik> so do I
1472: [22:08:25] <Pyromanik> the question remains though, why?
1473: [22:09:08] <vebb> I'd like to borrow some upvotes for Kingy's latest tutorial
1474: [22:09:10] <vebb> https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
1475: [22:09:19] <vebb> Raspberry Pi Temperature Sensing
1476: [22:09:21] <Pyromanik> thAT'S NOT hacker news
1477: [22:09:36] <vebb> yeah it is
1478: [22:10:00] <Pyromanik> no it's a shit aggregator
1479: [22:11:22] <Pyromanik> hacker news is http://thehackernews.com/
1480: [22:11:32] <vebb> jesus christ my eyes
1481: [22:11:47] <Pyromanik> don't spill acid in them?
1482: [22:11:57] <vebb> I try not to
1483: [22:11:58] <antmas> that fucking site looks amazing
1484: [22:12:23] <Pyromanik> ??
1485: [22:12:35] <antmas> best design ever
1486: [22:12:37] <antmas> 10/10
1487: [22:12:54] <Pyromanik> http://thehackernews.com/2014/08/how-to-weaponize-your-cat-to-hack-your_9.html
1488: [22:13:58] <antmas> Pyromanik: haha that's pretty awesome
1489: [22:15:25] <Colin[pi]> that is pretty cool
1490: [22:16:30] <Pyromanik> That is hacker news.
1491: [22:16:57] * Pyromanik wonders what happened to the article on silverstripe that was on it
1492: [22:17:04] <antmas> 10 Surface Pros just turned up at my desk
1493: [22:17:13] <antmas> ALL THE TABLETS
1494: [22:17:29] <Colin[pi]> :O
1495: [22:17:52] <Colin[pi]> join them together to make a super mega ultra sized tablet
1496: [22:18:16] <antmas> haha well 10 docking station things just turned up as well which can be daisy chained
1497: [22:18:29] <Colin[pi]> DO IT
1498: [22:18:39] <antmas> I'll do it friday
1499: [22:18:40] <Pyromanik> http://thehackernews.com/2014/08/jobvite-recruitment-service-website_4.html
1500: [22:18:40] <antmas> :P
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1502: [22:19:04] <Pyromanik> antmas, also: film it.
1503: [22:19:40] <antmas> I wish I didn't have to deal with them :P
1504: [22:19:50] <antmas> but it makes a change to regular work
1505: [22:21:21] <Colin[pi]> antmas: so you've been tasked with what exactly?
1506: [22:21:52] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I project managed a roll out of mobile hardware + an app for the building inspectors
1507: [22:22:01] <Colin[pi]> oic
1508: [22:22:05] <antmas> so I have to set them all up and configure them etc
1509: [22:22:12] <Colin[pi]> yay! :\
1510: [22:22:33] <antmas> so I got to choose hardware :D
1511: [22:22:50] <antmas> only dumb thing is they're surface 2's as there are no rugged cases for the 3's
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1513: [22:24:27] <Colin[pi]> antmas: is that because it's still pretty new?
1514: [22:24:36] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah pretty much
1515: [22:24:57] <antmas> not that the building inspectors need Surface 3's :P
1516: [22:25:05] <antmas> but we get massive M$ discounts
1517: [22:25:20] <Colin[pi]> mm good because dat price
1518: [22:25:54] <antmas> yeah
1519: [22:25:58] <Pyromanik> antmas, buy excess, immediately depreciate, buy from work?
1520: [22:26:10] <antmas> we can get the 3s for like $750 + GST
1521: [22:26:31] <antmas> Pyromanik: yeah I'm claiming the 'test' Surface 2 :P
1522: [22:27:13] <antmas> they are pretty nice kits really
1523: [22:28:48] <Ryan-Toast> noob question, if I have a class that I want to override a static variable, where would I do that?
1524: [22:29:09] <Pyromanik> antmas, yeah, but techncially the 'test' surface is till the company's.
1525: [22:29:16] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, you don't.
1526: [22:29:23] <Pyromanik> well, public/private?
1527: [22:29:25] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Didn’t think so
1528: [22:29:29] <Ryan-Toast> niether
1529: [22:29:40] <Pyromanik> public: Class::$lolK = 'blah';
1530: [22:30:01] <Pyromanik> private Config::inst()->update('Class', 'lolk', 'blah')
1531: [22:30:31] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, so... protected? yeah, you don't.
1532: [22:30:39] <antmas> Pyromanik: well yeah it is, but no one else uses it
1533: [22:30:46] <antmas> so I take it home :D
1534: [22:30:51] <Pyromanik> well, subclass static $samedef = 'something new'
1535: [22:31:05] <Pyromanik> antmas, yeah, I get that :P
1536: [22:31:16] <Pyromanik> but... y'know... technically.
1537: [22:31:22] <antmas> :p
1538: [22:31:38] <antmas> we have so many end of life tablets here
1539: [22:31:53] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Pretty much wanted to change the cache_dir http://pastebin.com/w21NAiCw
1540: [22:34:35] <Pyromanik> but that's a define I think, idk.
1541: [22:34:41] <Pyromanik> maybe.
1542: [22:34:47] <Pyromanik> best look at how it's set in the first place.
1543: [22:36:10] <Ryan-Toast> mmm
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1547: [22:42:30] <Stomach> is there a way to set a default filter on a dataobject?
1548: [22:42:43] <Pyromanik> irogue, I hear it's your fault poor tankr was sick on his birthday
1549: [22:42:48] <Stomach> $always_filter_by = array('SomeCondition' => 'SomeThing');
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1551: [22:43:08] <Pyromanik> Stomach, not that I'm aware of.
1552: [22:43:17] <Stomach> yeah I'm not aware either :(
1553: [22:43:23] <micmania1> Stomach: you mean always? As in every MyDataObject::get()?
1554: [22:43:25] <Pyromanik> but I'm pretty sure it'd be reou're FUCK THIS TRACKPAD SHITasonably easy to hack in, if y
1555: [22:43:33] <Stomach> micmania1, yeah
1556: [22:43:41] <Pyromanik> but I'm pretty sure it'd be reasonablly easy to hack in if you're so inclined.
1557: [22:43:42] <micmania1> create a DataExtension
1558: [22:43:49] <micmania1> then implement the augmentSQL method
1559: [22:43:52] <Pyromanik> ^
1560: [22:43:56] <Pyromanik> easy to hack in.
1561: [22:43:59] <Pyromanik> :>
1562: [22:44:07] <Stomach> micmania1, thanks
1563: [22:44:25] <Pyromanik> couldn't remember the method (or that it was a hook) but micmania1 had you covered :D
1564: [22:44:35] <Pyromanik> fuck, nearly midnight.
1565: [22:46:55] <Pyromanik> areet, l8rz
1566: [22:47:13] <Pyromanik> l8az
1567: [22:47:23] * Pyromanik slowly turns into a geordie.
1568: [22:47:32] <micmania1> i’m never giving up my accent!
1569: [22:47:33] <micmania1> ever!
1570: [22:47:39] <Pyromanik> micmania1, the next time we meet you'll sound like a kiwi and I'll sound like a geordie :<
1571: [22:47:44] <Pyromanik> lol
1572: [22:47:47] <micmania1> haha
1573: [22:47:52] <Pyromanik> you won't, but it'll soften.
1574: [22:48:16] <Pyromanik> I work with too many yorkies though, I'm getting a bit of that mixed intoo :< lol
1575: [22:48:29] <Pyromanik> dae ta
1576: [22:48:35] <Pyromanik> :S
1577: [22:48:39] <Pyromanik> data
1578: [22:49:02] <Pyromanik> anyway, time to sleep so I don't sound like a mumbling idiot (more than usual) tomorrow
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1580: [22:51:48] <antmas> ss23: you guys charge a lot for moving repos :P
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1582: [22:54:22] <ss23> irogue_: did you buy me candy?
1583: [22:54:42] <ss23> lol jk
1584: [22:56:30] <simon_w|work> "candy"
1585: [22:56:59] <simon_w|work> Yay! The sales/support teams have moved office!
1586: [22:57:57] <zippy> antmas: you guys charge a lot.
1587: [22:57:59] <zippy> ftfy
1588: [22:59:10] <ss23> antmas: Aren't you on retainer?
1589: [22:59:54] <antmas> ss23: :P we were, now we're on wounded bull rates
1590: [23:00:02] <antmas> jkjk
1591: [23:06:34] <Colin[pi]> holy shit Robin Williams found dead
1592: [23:06:57] <Colin[pi]> apparent suicide :(
1593: [23:07:21] <antmas> really?
1594: [23:07:29] <Colin[pi]> http://variety.com/2014/film/news/robin-williams-found-dead-in-possible-suicide-1201280386/
1595: [23:08:06] <antmas> oh wow
1596: [23:08:11] <Colin[pi]> :C
1597: [23:08:36] <antmas> that sucks :(
1598: [23:09:26] <antmas> good one Colin[pi] bring the house down
1599: [23:09:28] <antmas> :P
1600: [23:09:40] <Colin[pi]> sorry it just came up on my Guardian app alert on my phone
1601: [23:09:51] <Colin[pi]> was like "Whaaaaa..??"
1602: [23:10:08] <Stomach> woah
1603: [23:10:11] <Stomach> thats kind of sad :(
1604: [23:10:28] <Colin[pi]> you know they say the guys that are really good comedians often battle a lot of demons :(
1605: [23:10:39] <antmas> yeah well most comedians hate life and people
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1607: [23:18:40] <guzzlefry> Bill Hicks comes to mind... :P
1608: [23:18:50] <antmas> Louie CK too
1609: [23:19:27] <Colin[pi]> Louis CK died??
1610: [23:19:42] <Colin[pi]> oh no wait, he's still ok :P
1611: [23:19:43] <Kingy> lol
1612: [23:19:48] <Kingy> jesus antmas
1613: [23:20:11] <guzzlefry> that mitch guy
1614: [23:20:13] <guzzlefry> hedberg?
1615: [23:20:14] <antmas> woah
1616: [23:20:16] <antmas> sorry
1617: [23:20:17] <antmas> :P
1618: [23:20:30] <antmas> mitch hedberg died?
1619: [23:20:34] <guzzlefry> ...
1620: [23:20:59] <antmas> guzzlefry: I actually had no idea :O
1621: [23:21:02] <guzzlefry> in 2005
1622: [23:21:11] <antmas> great now I feel bad
1623: [23:21:19] <guzzlefry> :(
1624: [23:22:04] * guzzlefry switches topics.
1625: [23:22:18] <guzzlefry> http://www.thatshouldbemine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Chewbacca-Dog-Chewbacca-Dog.jpg
1626: [23:22:32] <antmas> this is so lame
1627: [23:22:41] <antmas> so, when an external rss feed goes down
1628: [23:22:49] <antmas> our library site crashes :O
1629: [23:22:58] <antmas> until we comment the feed on the home page
1630: [23:23:30] <Kingy> using SS?
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1632: [23:23:35] <antmas> Kingy: yeah
1633: [23:23:41] <Kingy> how are you doing it?
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1635: [23:25:30] <antmas> Kingy: from hompage.php http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/53e94c7c76db8
1636: [23:26:13] <antmas> basically, I'd rather it just fallback to a mock feed
1637: [23:26:37] <antmas> tis a Thursday job now though :P
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1639: [23:28:12] <Kingy> antmas: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/53e94d223429d
1640: [23:28:19] <Kingy> that's what I use
1641: [23:28:40] <Kingy> doesn't break anything if the url fails
1642: [23:28:44] <Kingy> the div is just blank
1643: [23:29:37] <antmas> Kingy: internal feed?
1644: [23:29:42] <Kingy> nope
1645: [23:29:44] <Kingy> external
1646: [23:31:03] <antmas> Kingy: where do you get/set the url?
1647: [23:31:06] <antmas> for $url
1648: [23:32:33] <simon_w|work> I SMELL BANANA BREAD
1649: [23:32:36] <Kingy> antmas: in the template $RSSFeed(http://dfsdfsdfdf)
1650: [23:32:53] <Kingy> $BlogFeed sorry
1651: [23:32:54] <antmas> Kingy: oh right
1652: [23:33:03] <Kingy> but it could easily be hardcoded
1653: [23:33:11] <antmas> I might try it this way
1654: [23:33:15] <Kingy> no reason why I can't really, unless I make it an option in the CMS to change
1655: [23:33:25] <antmas> the only thing this site does diff is the splitting out and grabbing of dates
1656: [23:33:29] <Kingy> antmas: I found that code http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/reference/restfulservice
1657: [23:34:09] <antmas> Kingy: LOL
1658: [23:34:14] <antmas> 'bespoke'
1659: [23:34:47] <Kingy> :p
1660: [23:34:48] <antmas> Kingy: not yours, I mean ours
1661: [23:34:48] <antmas> :P
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1663: [23:35:12] <antmas> Kingy: yeah you're doing the same thing as me really
1664: [23:35:46] <Kingy> so basically your problem is with $RSSFeed being nothing the exception being called?
1665: [23:36:00] <antmas> yeah basically
1666: [23:36:20] <Kingy> what is $exc giving you?
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1668: [23:38:07] <antmas> Kingy: ah, not testing right now
1669: [23:38:13] <Kingy> lol
1670: [23:38:19] <antmas> Kingy: just looking into it before thursday :P
1671: [23:39:10] <antmas> if I comment out line 03 from my paste, the page will load fine, just without the feed items etc
1672: [23:39:37] <Kingy> oh ok
1673: [23:40:03] <antmas> Kingy: yeah, so that URL to itson.co.nz or whatever, if that site goes down it fucks up the feed call
1674: [23:41:02] <antmas> I guess I could just check for a response from it and catch it
1675: [23:42:03] <antmas> would that be the best thing to do in that case?
1676: [23:42:32] <antmas> check response, then load a mock (or even just let it be empty) if a certain response comes back from that url?
1677: [23:42:34] <Kingy> i'd say so
1678: [23:42:40] <Kingy> yeah that ^
1679: [23:42:49] <antmas> sweet
1680: [23:42:51] <antmas> ty
1681: [23:43:23] <zippy> starts getting complicated eh!
1682: [23:43:32] <antmas> zippy: hmm?
1683: [23:43:41] <zippy> if the call works, then you could cache out that part so when the call fails, fall back to the cache
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1685: [23:43:55] <zippy> also, if the call fails for more then a day, should you notify someone - maybe the url has changed
1686: [23:44:06] <antmas> zippy: yeah I was thinking that
1687: [23:44:13] <antmas> cache a working list then fallback to it
1688: [23:44:29] <antmas> and yeah we need to notify someone as that site fails all the fucking time
1689: [23:44:45] <Kingy> lol
1690: [23:44:52] <zippy> do you try and load the feed on page load?
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1692: [23:45:36] <zippy> antmas: do you load the feed on page load?
1693: [23:46:08] <ss23> Last reviewed: 4 August 2014
1694: [23:46:09] <ss23> Next review date: 4 August 2014
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1696: [23:46:13] <ss23> man who even admins tasman.govt.nz
1697: [23:46:44] <antmas> ss23: lazy people
1698: [23:47:31] <antmas> zippy: doesn't seem like it
1699: [23:47:36] <Ryan-Toast> Sigh, 404 on ss-shop docs
1700: [23:48:03] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: todo?
1701: [23:48:16] <zippy> antmas: ah ok, cos you could setup a cron to populate check the feed every 15 mins or so, if it was trying to do it on page load, speed it up etc
1702: [23:48:19] <Ryan-Toast> http://api.ss-shop.org/
1703: [23:48:20] <antmas> also lol ss-shop
1704: [23:48:23] <Ryan-Toast> http://demo.ss-shop.org/docs/developer/en
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1706: [23:48:33] <antmas> zippy: good idea
1707: [23:48:33] <Ryan-Toast> Inherited project
1708: [23:48:39] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: can you get in touch with Jedateach?
1709: [23:49:01] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Could do I guess.
1710: [23:49:06] <Colin[pi]> https://github.com/jedateach
1711: [23:49:11] <Ryan-Toast> But I just need to know if there’s a hook when you add a product
1712: [23:49:29] <Ryan-Toast> He looks blazed as fuck in that picture
1713: [23:49:37] <Colin[pi]> prolly is LOL
1714: [23:49:45] <antmas> haha he does!
1715: [23:49:55] <antmas> as you would be after doing ecommerce with ss
1716: [23:50:08] <zippy> antmas: then, you could have a 'feedcheck' object, with url, email address of who to notify and a count of how many times it's failed. On success set the count to 0, on errors add 1, every 10 errors email the person :) boom now made it more complicated for you :D
1717: [23:50:13] <Ryan-Toast> anyone know if there’s a product created hook?
1718: [23:50:37] <antmas> zippy: :P I have about 2 hours to do it
1719: [23:50:54] <zippy> antmas: ezy! :) with time left to goto armadellos
1720: [23:51:05] <antmas> zippy: boooo!
1721: [23:51:11] <zippy> god it's so much easier to just sit in irc and procrastinate then do work
1722: [23:51:15] <zippy> doesn't pay the mortgage thou
1723: [23:51:15] <antmas> admagayos
1724: [23:51:19] <antmas> armagayos*
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1726: [23:54:28] <antmas> anyone know what cms itson.co.nz is?
1727: [23:55:15] <Colin[pi]> http://builtwith.com/itson.co.nz -- doesn't seem to be revealing much
1728: [23:55:23] <antmas> yeah I know
1729: [23:56:50] <Colin[pi]> anything interesting in source? http://itson.co.nz/admin/
1730: [23:56:59] <Colin[pi]> DJANGO
1731: [23:57:09] <Colin[pi]> http://itson.co.nz/media/admin/css/base.css
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