#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 6 July 2014

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4: [00:27:22] <ss23> willr: :(
5: [00:27:41] <ss23> I HAVE A WEAK LIVER OKAY
6: [00:28:26] <willr> WEAK
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13: [00:39:31] <ss23> WEAKKK
14: [00:39:35] <ss23> willr: I really did wanna come :(
15: [00:44:08] <willr> it wasn’t the same without simon_w either.
16: [00:44:43] <simon_w> I did some SS work, than gave up and played HL
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18: [00:53:04] <ss23> :(
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57: [09:04:48] <VRoxane> Hello ! I don't remember how to access the DataObjects linked to CustomSiteConfig in my templates ...
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59: [09:06:31] <VRoxane> My CustomSiteConfig has many Pictos (DataObjects) and a Loop Pictos won't work :(
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65: [10:01:38] <zfmf> he guys, where i can change the email logos????
66: [10:03:30] <zfmf> oo sorry:d wrong channel :d
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85: [13:37:32] <VRoxane> Hello ! I have trouble accessing DataObjects in my templates. They are in a has_many / has_one relationship with CustomSiteConfig
86: [13:38:07] <VRoxane> Here's the post on the forum : http://www.silverstripe.org/template-questions/show/65309
87: [13:39:36] <ss23> VRoxane: What do you get when you use that code you posted?
88: [13:39:38] <ss23> What is the output?
89: [13:44:33] <VRoxane> <a class="picto" href=""> - Picto -</a>
90: [13:45:53] <ss23> Can you post the code (on something like gist.github.com or pastebin, or the forum if you prefer) of Picto, and CustomSiteConfig?
91: [13:47:22] <VRoxane> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/53b94f74ca83c
92: [13:48:20] <VRoxane> I entered two Pictos in the backend and I only get one link. Means nothing works haha ! ha-hem...
93: [13:49:26] <ss23> Probably the <% loop CustomSiteConfig %> isn't right
94: [13:49:45] <ss23> Unless the page you're on has_many CustomSiteConfig
95: [13:49:56] <ss23> If CustomSiteConfig is just an extension on SiteConfig, hmmm
96: [13:49:58] <ss23> You probably want more like...
97: [13:50:09] <ss23> <% loop SiteConfig.Pictos %>
98: [13:50:10] <ss23> or something
99: [13:50:46] <ss23> VRoxane: It's quite late here though and I havent' done much all weekend so I'm not in the best shape to help you sorry! Play around and if you can't get it, stick around, someone else might know (or at least, tomorrow they might, since more poeple are on when it's not Sunday)
100: [13:51:36] <VRoxane> thank you, I'm gonna try different things :)
101: [13:51:44] <VRoxane> Good night !
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129: [21:33:39] <antmas> moin moin
130: [21:34:27] <Stomach> hiya
131: [21:35:19] <antmas> how was the hackfest on saturday? I didn't make it to skype :P
132: [21:36:05] <Stomach> it was alright :)
133: [21:36:10] <Stomach> I didnt get much done
134: [21:36:25] <antmas> :P
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137: [21:47:57] <Colin[pi]> willr stuck up a lot of post it notes!
138: [21:48:10] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I saw this!
139: [21:48:29] <antmas> seems like it was pretty heavy focus on the docs?
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142: [21:52:31] <Colin[pi]> antmas: we can only hope
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147: [22:14:31] <Colin[pi]> willr: so did all the docs get rewritten?
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150: [22:17:24] <zippy__> antmas_: bit of a fire out there this morning
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162: [22:26:05] <willr> Colin[pi] no but me and cam are pretty excited about the new IA and way we’ll be handling it
163: [22:26:36] <Colin[pi]> IA?
164: [22:26:44] <willr> information architecture.
165: [22:26:50] <Colin[pi]> ah thought so
166: [22:26:52] <Colin[pi]> cool :)
167: [22:26:59] <willr> a really quick rough outline is at https://github.com/wilr/sapphire/tree/docsrewrite/docs/en
168: [22:27:27] <Colin[pi]> nice will have a look through
169: [22:27:53] <willr> we’ll have 2 areas. Tutorials and Guides. guides will be broken down into topics and each topic will have a folder of how-tos attached.
170: [22:29:09] <willr> quite a bit of content wll be re-orged still but we want to do a couple more things then get a test site out
171: [22:30:16] <Colin[pi]> awesome
172: [22:30:23] <Colin[pi]> very much looking forward to it :)
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179: [23:18:58] <antmas_> zippy__: fire? sorry, was in a time-waster (aka meeting)
180: [23:19:25] <zippy__> antmas_: http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/10240011/Richmond-house-gutted-by-fire - just a few houses over
181: [23:19:35] <zippy__> (other block)
182: [23:19:53] <antmas_> Colin[pi]: willr I like that structure - can't wait :)
183: [23:21:01] <antmas_> zippy__: woah, haven't heard anything here
184: [23:21:08] * antmas_ is now known as antmas
185: [23:21:34] <willr> yeah it’s hard to explain everything just yet but tutorials will cross all topics, how-tos to focused to one topic (i.e adding a new LeftAndMain) and topics will be written at a basic level then 3rd level will get into the real details
186: [23:21:42] <zippy__> antmas_: I don't suppose you'd be able to do me a favour…? I got a question for someone at the council, not sure if someone in the office there would help or maybe somewhere else in the building. If I section off part of my garage, add in window, carpet and some hot points and lights do I need a permit? (eg, convert part of garage to office).
187: [23:22:33] <antmas> zippy__: is someone going to be living in it?
188: [23:22:52] <zippy__> not living in it, just office
189: [23:22:58] <Colin[pi]> would think just part of the time :)
190: [23:24:30] <antmas> zippy__: yeah you do unfortunately
191: [23:24:37] <zippy__> ah bollocks
192: [23:24:49] <zippy__> what happens if the work has already been done….
193: [23:24:51] <antmas> zippy__: have no idea how much that is though
194: [23:24:56] <Colin[pi]> lol
195: [23:25:14] <antmas> zippy__: lol, well if it burns down or gets damaged, you won't be getting insurance :P
196: [23:25:30] <Colin[pi]> isn't it a case of like here.. if the structure is unapproved it becomes an issue when you sell the property?
197: [23:25:44] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah that too
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199: [23:26:02] <antmas> legally you pretty much wont be able to sell it unless it's a private sale
200: [23:26:10] <Colin[pi]> like you can technically get by without a permit while living there, but to sell you'll need it approved
201: [23:26:38] <zippy__> mmmm I was thinking that might be the case, balls
202: [23:27:14] <antmas> Colin[pi]: zippy__ also, if you're wiring the garage from the mains in your house, it will make it pretty sketchy to get insurance on the house as they have now become connected
203: [23:27:37] <zippy__> life is a whole series of "IF's" isn't it
204: [23:27:41] <Colin[pi]> I think the decision process should be... if you have any question in your mind whether or not something needs to be approved, it probably does :)
205: [23:27:43] <antmas> zippy__: lol yip
206: [23:27:46] <zippy__> antmas: garage already had power
207: [23:27:53] <antmas> zippy__: then that's all good
208: [23:28:08] <antmas> zippy__: just ring customer services, they'll tell you straight away
209: [23:28:15] * antmas touches wood
210: [23:28:15] <zippy__> might get the wriing signed off, and then might ring them counil
211: [23:28:30] <Colin[pi]> antmas: don't do that you'll go blind
212: [23:28:39] <zippy__> I think thats probably the only bit they would be worried about, the electrical work
213: [23:28:52] <antmas> zippy__: and the window
214: [23:29:12] <zippy__> fuck, i got 2 of them
215: [23:29:16] <antmas> lol
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217: [23:29:48] <antmas> zippy__: so the work has been done?
218: [23:29:59] <zippy__> not saying… NSA is watching..
219: [23:30:07] <Colin[pi]> LOL
220: [23:30:07] <zippy__> and I bet they care about it too
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222: [23:30:50] <antmas> zippy__: you can still get the permit with having the work?
223: [23:30:59] <antmas> mniues the ?*
224: [23:31:03] <antmas> minus*
225: [23:31:19] <zippy__> yea, so I think I will get the wriging certified or signed off or something, then might approach the council
226: [23:31:36] <antmas> zippy__: as long as you haven't clad the walls (as in you're planning on renting it or living in it) then you're fine
227: [23:31:57] <zippy__> clad the walls? you mean line them?
228: [23:32:05] <antmas> zippy__: yup
229: [23:32:18] <zippy__> they're lined, gib stopped, 3 coats of paint
230: [23:32:23] <zippy__> I mean..
231: [23:32:29] <zippy__> nothing planned yet..
232: [23:32:38] <antmas> zippy__: ...
233: [23:33:03] <antmas> zippy__: don't be suprised that if you had hypothetically done that already, you're going to have to take them down :O
234: [23:33:06] <zippy__> suppose I can't tell them to f-off since it's my house and land eh
235: [23:33:50] <antmas> zippy__: just ring and ask about it, they wont track it or anything
236: [23:34:10] * zippy__ will get a pre-paid sim card from diary out the wop wops
237: [23:34:16] <antmas> LOL
238: [23:34:18] <antmas> :)
239: [23:34:47] <antmas> just don't do it on a monday, the CSOs are all crazy on mondays
240: [23:35:00] <zippy__> rgr
241: [23:35:12] <antmas> rgr?
242: [23:35:16] <zippy__> roger
243: [23:35:21] <antmas> oic
244: [23:35:28] * antmas beeps at ss23
245: [23:36:47] <ss23> ^.^
246: [23:37:18] <zippy__> >> Do something else for about 30 minutes. This is generally how long it takes for DNS record changes to propagate across the web.
247: [23:37:40] <zippy__> in the ideal world...
248: [23:37:56] <ss23> Well if you set your TTL right!
249: [23:38:37] <simon_w> "propagate"
250: [23:39:33] <antmas> what's the better word?
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252: [23:39:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#2816 (3.1 - d1d2950 : Sean Harvey): The build passed.
253: [23:39:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/2f188fecc5a4...d1d295056b0e
254: [23:39:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/29278478
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256: [23:39:59] <ss23> Propogate is fine to me
257: [23:40:04] <ss23> but you should spell it right
258: [23:40:06] <ss23> :D
259: [23:40:18] <antmas> I don't think I've ever used that word
260: [23:40:31] <simon_w> Not that there's any propagation going on
261: [23:40:39] <simon_w> It's just cache expiration
262: [23:40:47] <ss23> That counts as propogation
263: [23:40:51] <ss23> proagate
264: [23:40:52] <ss23> fuck
265: [23:40:55] <ss23> AYNWAY
266: [23:40:59] <antmas> lol
267: [23:41:14] <ss23> point is that the changes *do* propagate, because it's got massive amounts of DNS servers, the changes have to 'flow' through
268: [23:41:41] <simon_w> Only if they're set up poorly
269: [23:41:59] <antmas> how do the changes get made? when a call is made to the address?
270: [23:42:07] <antmas> request*
271: [23:42:33] <simon_w> Anyway, I could argue semantics all day
272: [23:42:37] <simon_w> Or play Half-Life again
273: [23:42:41] <simon_w> I think I know what wins
274: [23:42:49] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: argue Half-Life semantics
275: [23:43:18] <simon_w> If it manages to start...
276: [23:43:33] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: which HL is this?
277: [23:43:40] <simon_w> 1
278: [23:43:59] <simon_w> Yay! It started!
279: [23:44:11] <zippy__> nuts, can't cname the @
280: [23:44:23] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: ur about 16 years late
281: [23:44:24] <Colin[pi]> ;D
282: [23:44:45] <simon_w> It's still fun! :p
283: [23:44:46] <Colin[pi]> the AI in that game still impresses me to this day
284: [23:45:02] <simon_w> zippy__, yeah, cause you need to have other records for @ (like NS), which CNAME doesn't allow
285: [23:45:22] <zippy__> mmm, but I want xxxx.co.nz to cname someone else
286: [23:45:31] <zippy__> and don't want to set ip
287: [23:48:56] * antmas goes on the company buy, sell swap
288: [23:49:09] <antmas> the only thing on here is 'Pants for sale'
289: [23:50:11] <Colin[pi]> antmas: meh, are they nice pants?
290: [23:51:24] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I dunno but they're apparently only $40 when they used to be $120!!!
291: [23:51:33] * antmas resists urge to buy pants
292: [23:51:38] <Colin[pi]> BARGAIN
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294: [23:55:55] <Stomach> buy the pants.
295: [23:56:02] <Stomach> save the world.
296: [23:56:49] <antmas> it's tempting...
297: [23:56:55] <zippy__> antmas: then you'll be able to…. wear the pants!
298: [23:57:03] <antmas> zippy__: HA!

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