#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 31 May 2014

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1: [00:19:17] <Zauberfisch> ok, so I am compiling php myself now
2: [00:20:06] <Zauberfisch> I am trying to replicate the build of a hoster, this hoster uses:
3: [00:20:26] <Zauberfisch> --with-db4 and --with-gdbm
4: [00:20:39] <Zauberfisch> which seem to be a blocker for me
5: [00:21:08] <Zauberfisch> can't seem the get all the dependencies working on ubuntu precise
6: [00:23:34] <Zauberfisch> of course I can just remove those 2
7: [00:23:41] <Zauberfisch> question is: do I want to?
8: [00:23:54] <Zauberfisch> unfortunately I am not really sure what they are needed for
9: [00:24:06] <Zauberfisch> any advice / input?
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21: [02:34:23] <srixon> Hi to all, weird problem. Ive copied an ss site from, one server to another. Reinstalled SS with the imported database. Can login, all works but : mysite/_coinfig.php settings are ignored!!!!! FullSearchText enable isnt not enabled, neither this: DataObject::add_extension('SiteConfig', 'CustomSiteConfiguration'); Any clue?
22: [02:37:51] <srixon> Another weird fact regarding this issue; Database shows CustomSiteConfiguration settings!
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37: [05:20:14] <simon_w> There we go. Down to one personal box with Rimu.
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85: [14:15:07] <alexwijn> Hi, is it possible to make a page type unable to be removed?
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96: [14:36:37] <alexwijn> Why is this not possible:
97: [14:36:38] <alexwijn> <% if $ClassName != "RegistrationPage" || ($ClassName == "RegistrationPage" && $CurrentMember == false) %>
98: [14:37:00] <ss23> Because the templating engine is shit
99: [14:37:11] <alexwijn> damn
100: [14:37:47] <alexwijn> Better to use Twig in the future?
101: [14:38:20] <ss23> Probably more a sign that your template logic is getting a bit too complex :P
102: [14:38:24] <ss23> but I dunno
103: [14:38:30] <ss23> If I had *my* way, we would use PHP for templating...
104: [14:38:42] <alexwijn> Sure, but then you are mixing things up
105: [14:39:04] <alexwijn> You should separate logic and design
106: [14:39:12] <alexwijn> And if you use engines like Twig you are forced to do that
107: [14:39:20] <ss23> If you use PHP, you have a choice
108: [14:39:21] <ss23> :P
109: [14:39:27] <ss23> I mean, you can put all your views in the PHP side of things already
110: [14:39:34] <joelpittet> twig++
111: [14:39:38] <ss23> The argument of "But you can do bad thigns" is a stupid one -- we already trust the programmer not to mess up
112: [14:39:54] <alexwijn> Its not that you can mess up
113: [14:40:03] <alexwijn> is just bad coding if you do not have it separate
114: [14:40:19] <alexwijn> The MVC principle
115: [14:40:58] <ss23> You can seperate it by having PHP templates, if you want
116: [14:41:12] <alexwijn> But you can still do advanced things in those PHP templates
117: [14:41:16] <alexwijn> and we programmers are lazy
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126: [15:01:06] <guzzlefry> I would abstract that out into a method...
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131: [15:13:38] <alexwijn> How?
132: [15:13:48] <alexwijn> Currently I have an extension for my page
133: [15:13:58] <alexwijn> But I can't see a way to add a method for it
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170: [16:52:45] <guci0> Hello World!
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180: [18:54:49] <alexwijn> How to create a empty datalist?
181: [18:57:47] <alexwijn> I wondering, people recommend to use the create function rather than the new DataObject(). Why is that?
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