#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 27 May 2014

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1: [00:00:11] <Stomach> Kingy - I use git flow
2: [00:00:28] <Kingy> I'm being encouraged to use it by people at work
3: [00:00:32] <Kingy> how do you find it Stomach?
4: [00:00:59] <Stomach> its good
5: [00:01:03] <Stomach> makes sense :D
6: [00:01:20] <ss23> hmm
7: [00:01:26] <ss23> is gitflow just a bunch of aliases for git commands?
8: [00:02:23] <simon_w> Looks like it
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10: [00:13:02] <Stomach> yeah its just a workflow
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12: [00:28:55] <chrisrio> hey team - what is the most straight foward way to knock out a range filter for model adin $searchable_fields?
13: [00:29:14] <chrisrio> there is a nice WithinRangeFilter listed in the API but apparenly it is incomplete
14: [00:29:19] <chrisrio> so I imagine i'll need to write my own?
15: [00:29:39] <chrisrio> extend search context with some magical business
16: [00:29:49] <chrisrio> or I could greaterthan/lessthan
17: [00:36:46] * Kingy is now known as Kingy[a]
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22: [00:51:04] <antmas> where can one buy fritzbox in nz?
23: [00:51:09] <antmas> besides through snap...
24: [00:51:44] <simon_w|air> Through irogue's old work?
25: [00:54:35] * auto9 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
26: [00:54:37] <Stomach> we got one through orcon
27: [00:55:01] <simon_w|air> irogue_, less work, more IRC :p
28: [00:55:18] <irogue_> nah, we sold draytek not fritz
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30: [00:55:23] <antmas> maybe I could just get one overseas
31: [00:55:25] <irogue_> snap is exclusive for fritzbox
32: [00:55:38] <ss23> just get some draytek gear instead!
33: [00:55:44] <irogue_> ^
34: [00:55:46] <ss23> irogue_: btw wanted to ask you, you got any info on draytek firmware unpackers etc?
35: [00:55:51] <irogue_> fritz is actually overrated
36: [00:55:56] <ss23> I got some code for it that works well enough, but it doesn't suport newer firmware shiz
37: [00:56:04] <irogue_> ss23: which model?
38: [00:56:04] <Stomach> install a smoothwall :D
39: [00:57:13] <irogue_> antmas: what type of intertubes?
40: [00:57:44] <ss23> irogue_: in this case, vigor130
41: [00:58:01] <antmas> ADSL :(
42: [00:58:02] <ss23> It *looks* like they changed how PFS works between versions
43: [00:58:08] <ss23> But I haven't spent a lot of time looking at it
44: [00:58:09] <antmas> can't get anything else until late next year
45: [00:58:25] <irogue_> ss23: ah, gl with that. it's a whole new base OS thingee
46: [00:58:28] <antmas> so I just need something that will get the most out of it
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48: [00:58:39] <irogue_> 130 and 2760 are new platform
49: [00:58:42] <ss23> irogue_: Well the firmware image is almost the same, just mior stuff
50: [00:59:15] <irogue_> ss23: yeah, i just mean gl with an up to date unpacker
51: [00:59:36] <irogue_> afaik the 130 isnt even released in many (if any) other countries yet
52: [00:59:46] <irogue_> NZ is draytek's testbed :P
53: [01:06:11] <jordanmk> hey guys, can anyone see an issue with this simple Pages widget that i'm trying to create? http://pastebin.com/AAZFYAvz
54: [01:06:51] <Stomach> yeah, your Pages() function shouldn't need to be there :)
55: [01:06:53] <jordanmk> when i create the widget on a page in the CMS, and then click the dropdown to select the pages to link to, an error pops up saying "Bad Request", and then no pages come up in the dropdown list
56: [01:07:45] <jordanmk> yeah that function was kind of a WIP, but i still get the same issue even after deleting that function
57: [01:09:30] <v_> hoe to check phpunit is in its include path
58: [01:12:11] <jordanmk> Stomach, i've also tried changing it to just link to a single page (just to see if i could get that to work), like so: http://pastebin.com/tJq5ZhjC
59: [01:12:28] <Stomach> treedropdown by default uses groups
60: [01:12:34] <Stomach> so you'll need to set it to sitetree
61: [01:12:37] <jordanmk> but then i get an error of "Fatal error: Call to a member function FormAction() on a non-object in C:\Nimbler\ms\framework\forms\FormField.php on line 161"
62: [01:12:40] <Stomach> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-TreeMultiselectField.html
63: [01:13:36] <jordanmk> Stomach, like this? http://pastebin.com/Jk8VncWw
64: [01:14:21] <jordanmk> because that just gives the same error
65: [01:18:44] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
66: [01:21:16] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: any significance to the [a] ?
67: [01:21:29] <Kingy> away
68: [01:21:38] <Kingy> I'm using a bnc so when i d/c it sets me to away
69: [01:21:48] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: Ah, cool :)
70: [01:22:07] <Kingy> although with this mac it seems when my screen sleeps it just disconnects me
71: [01:22:15] <Kingy> so if i leave for more than a few minutes i go bye bye
72: [01:22:16] * v_ quit (Quit: Page closed)
73: [01:22:17] <jordanmk> Stomach, could it be that Widgets can't do what i'm trying to get this to do?
74: [01:22:29] <jordanmk> i.e. perhaps Widgets are not able to link to pages in the way i'm attempting?
75: [01:24:02] <jordanmk> because i can get it working if i take that code over to a Page itself
76: [01:24:49] <jordanmk> anyone know if it's possible to have a widget with a $has_many relationship to pages of the website?
77: [01:27:00] <simon_w|air> jordanmk, the has_many isn't the problem. Much like TreeDropdownField, TreeMultiDropdownField doesn't work in widgets
78: [01:27:35] <ss23> 12:59:15 < irogue_> ss23: yeah, i just mean gl with an up to date unpacker
79: [01:27:41] <ss23> the existing ones almost perfectly work
80: [01:27:49] <ss23> Should be easy to RE and fix
81: [01:27:50] <ss23> o/
82: [01:27:59] <irogue_> sweet then :P
83: [01:29:21] <jordanmk> simon_w, i see. i'm guessing that there would be no alternative way of having a widget which links to pages of the website?
84: [01:29:42] <simon_w|air> jordanmk, you could use a ListboxField or CheckboxSetField
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86: [01:32:25] <jordanmk> alright i'll look into that simon_w
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88: [01:33:13] <Kingy> why does twitter notify me of people I don't follow mentioning something I don't care about
89: [01:33:40] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: your email settings
90: [01:34:20] <camfindlay> simon_w meetup… quick give me your ideas
91: [01:35:31] <simon_w|air> Well, Colin[pi] didn't answer about hosting them at his "office"
92: [01:35:46] <simon_w|air> Though there'd be two SS devs from Canberra at them
93: [01:35:56] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: have you spoken with Shane recently?
94: [01:36:46] <camfindlay> no I haven’t but happy to if you plan something
95: [01:36:58] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: well Shane usually is the planner
96: [01:37:10] <camfindlay> usually…
97: [01:37:17] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: whenever he's in Canberra he shoots me a message and sets up something
98: [01:37:27] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: last time we got together at a bar in the city
99: [01:37:28] <camfindlay> well I’m looking for more local devs to help put these things together
100: [01:37:33] <Colin[pi]> ah k :)
101: [01:37:46] <camfindlay> so you don’t have to rely on someone else
102: [01:37:57] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: have you got any numbers on the size of the dev community here?
103: [01:38:03] <camfindlay> no I don’t
104: [01:38:14] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: shane last time reported to me that SS was making inroads into the govt scene
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106: [01:38:30] <camfindlay> but if you work out a date and space I can promote and we can find out
107: [01:38:44] <camfindlay> will be a good experiment
108: [01:38:47] <Colin[pi]> mm
109: [01:38:55] <simon_w|air> See if more than 5 people show up this time?
110: [01:39:00] <camfindlay> start small
111: [01:39:09] <camfindlay> find a space for say, 10 ppl
112: [01:39:17] <camfindlay> see how that goes
113: [01:39:32] <camfindlay> if you get a waitlist once we set up on meetup.com and promote it
114: [01:39:35] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: last time we went here: http://www.crowneplazacanberra.com.au/dining/binara-one/
115: [01:39:39] <camfindlay> next one we can grow it
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117: [01:40:16] <camfindlay> also depends if you want to have some activities, would you guys do some short talks about something silverstripe related? or would you want to do a hackfest?
118: [01:40:18] <camfindlay> up to you
119: [01:40:32] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: would love some short talks
120: [01:40:56] <camfindlay> kool, you’ll need to find ppl to do them, or do them yourself for the first one
121: [01:41:00] <simon_w|air> I could probably rattle on for a couple of minutes on a couple of things SS-related
122: [01:42:15] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: I think Shane mentioned to me that the first one he did had some others as well, prolly logged on meetup
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124: [01:44:25] <simon_w|air> Hmm, only one other on http://www.meetup.com/silverstripe-australia/events/110114552/
125: [01:44:43] <Colin[pi]> lol just shane and that dude
126: [01:44:46] <Colin[pi]> cozt
127: [01:44:49] <Colin[pi]> *cozy
128: [01:45:52] <simon_w|air> Well, we'd have a turnout at least that big!
129: [01:46:48] <Colin[pi]> there'd have to be more, he said they had about 20 projects underway for govt
130: [01:50:56] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], Think we could have something planned for mid/late July?
131: [01:51:18] <Colin[pi]> well late July I'm in Wellington ;P
132: [01:51:36] <simon_w|air> Ooh, you could give a talk on WDCNZ once you get back!
133: [01:51:54] <Colin[pi]> mebbe August then?
134: [01:52:05] <simon_w|air> Yeah, August works
135: [01:52:46] <antmas> Colin[pi]: ofc you would do a 10-60min talk about me
136: [01:53:11] <antmas> WDCNZ 2014: Antmas and I
137: [01:53:24] <Colin[pi]> lol
138: [01:53:36] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], perhaps the 6th?
139: [01:54:28] <Colin[pi]> could be, I get back on Sun 3rd
140: [01:54:45] <simon_w|air> Plenty of time to prepare a talk! :p
141: [01:55:00] <Colin[pi]> hey I haven't even said anything about doing a talk yet ;P
142: [01:56:00] <simon_w|air> Weren't you paying attention? I volunteered you :p
143: [01:56:24] <Colin[pi]> :P
144: [01:56:50] <simon_w|air> camfindlay, should we make a silverstripe-canberra group or just keep piggybacking off silverstripe-australia?
145: [01:57:11] <camfindlay> unsure yet, get your plan together and I’ll look into options for you
146: [01:58:40] <simon_w|air> Well, we've tentatively got a date and I'll be able to do at least one talk
147: [01:58:53] <camfindlay> Discuss and then hit me up with an email with your plan of attack, include anything you might need from us. Then I can start sorting things at this end.
148: [01:59:28] <camfindlay> have to head off. Will await contact from you lads :)
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150: [02:00:56] <antmas> Colin[pi]: no backing out now lol
151: [02:01:21] <Colin[pi]> not bad is he... "Well you guys organise everything, IM GOING HOME"
152: [02:01:31] <antmas> :P
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154: [02:02:46] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], we should probably meet up and plan it then :p
155: [02:03:09] <simon_w|air> (and I need to plug this laptop in, but simon_w isn't finished yet)
156: [02:03:16] <srikanth> Hello!
157: [02:03:21] <srikanth> I am new ss world
158: [02:03:39] <Stomach> hello
159: [02:04:02] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: mm guess so
160: [02:04:02] <srikanth> I need some help with setting up a subsite
161: [02:04:22] <srikanth> I have created a subsite as per the instructions https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-subsites
162: [02:04:43] <srikanth> I am unable to apply my custom theme to the subsite
163: [02:05:02] <srikanth> Any pointers would be great
164: [02:05:14] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: you’ll have to make a blood sacrifice ito spronk.
165: [02:05:24] <Colin[pi]> lol
166: [02:05:35] <antmas> heh
167: [02:05:46] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, hmm.... ok
168: [02:05:54] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: He’s the subsite lord :)
169: [02:05:59] <srikanth> I guess I am joined the wrong channel ;-)
170: [02:06:17] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: Lol,did you set the theme in the subsite settings?
171: [02:06:24] <srikanth> yes
172: [02:06:49] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: Is it the same theme as your main site?
173: [02:07:02] <srikanth> yes
174: [02:07:06] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, ^
175: [02:07:17] <srikanth> ohh hang on
176: [02:07:25] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], well, I'm free until Friday
177: [02:07:28] <srikanth> no, it's not the same as my home site
178: [02:07:30] <antmas> srikanth: flushed as well?
179: [02:07:31] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: And it’s saving in the subsite? It’s not reverting to “Default” When you refresh the cms page?
180: [02:07:38] <simon_w|air> (as in, not available on Friday)
181: [02:07:58] <srikanth> antmas, yes I did flush
182: [02:08:11] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, it seems to be saving
183: [02:08:16] <antmas> srikanth: you could try limiting the themes available
184: [02:08:19] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: mebbe we can have a lunch or something before then?
185: [02:08:23] <srikanth> I mean it remembers the setting
186: [02:08:28] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, ^
187: [02:08:30] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], works for me
188: [02:08:36] <antmas> Subsite::set_allowed_themes(array('mythemhere'));
189: [02:08:38] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: Try deleting the theme set in your config.
190: [02:08:42] <antmas> in the _config
191: [02:09:02] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: thursday?
192: [02:09:02] <srikanth> antmas, Ryan-Toast: let me give that a shot
193: [02:09:21] <simon_w|air> Colin[pi], sure. 1-ish somewhere in Woden?
194: [02:09:33] <Colin[pi]> simon_w|air: sounds good
195: [02:09:39] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: make sure to do a dev/build then a ?flush=all after.
196: [02:11:17] <antmas> I'm right in assuming dev/build?flush=all does nothing right?
197: [02:11:27] <antmas> or doesn't flush all etc
198: [02:11:37] <Stomach> it automatically does that on dev build anyway I think
199: [02:11:38] <unclecheese> * you almost never need flush=all
200: [02:11:44] <unclecheese> ?flush will suffice
201: [02:11:54] <antmas> #themoreyouknow
202: [02:11:55] <Stomach> unclecheese - until it doesn't ;)
203: [02:11:59] <Colin[pi]> dev/build also does a flush I think
204: [02:12:08] <unclecheese> simon_w: posted a great thread on this on the dev mailing list
205: [02:13:21] <antmas> unclecheese: now I remember
206: [02:13:30] <antmas> I just do it out of force of habit still :P
207: [02:14:12] <Stomach> I always flush=all, because thats whats in my history :D
208: [02:14:29] <unclecheese> your poor processor
209: [02:14:34] <simon_w> I'm tempted to open a PR against master that removes flush=all
210: [02:14:49] <unclecheese> fix it!
211: [02:15:14] <simon_w> Make me!
212: [02:15:21] <Stomach> i get these little notes in the bottom right of my screen saying "your cpu temperature is above 60 degrees" - its like a game to get it higher
213: [02:16:16] <antmas> Stomach: hahaha
214: [02:16:33] <antmas> You know nothing coretemp!
215: [02:17:32] <antmas> srikanth: any luck?
216: [02:18:51] <srikanth> antmas, Ryan-Toast: setting the allowed themes in config file seems to have done the trick
217: [02:19:06] <Ryan-Toast> Sweet :)
218: [02:19:24] <srikanth> however now I have different error
219: [02:19:31] <antmas> :O
220: [02:19:32] <antmas> srikanth: nice, there is probably a better way of doing that, but it worked for me in the past
221: [02:19:55] <srikanth> I still see all the themes available in the dropdown though
222: [02:19:58] <srikanth> a bit weird
223: [02:20:17] <srikanth> antmas, Ryan-Toast ^
224: [02:20:49] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: Yeah, the method that pulls the themes is different from the one that allows them in subsites.
225: [02:21:06] <Ryan-Toast> Subsites doesn’t replace the method.
226: [02:21:07] <antmas> hmmm
227: [02:21:19] <antmas> anyone read that navigator question in the dev list?
228: [02:21:20] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, that makes sense
229: [02:21:24] <antmas> I love that idea
230: [02:22:10] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: ?
231: [02:22:29] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: dev mailing list, top/latest question
232: [02:22:37] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Link?
233: [02:22:49] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/silverstripe-dev
234: [02:23:12] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast-> looks like one can set theme from subsite->settings->main->theme
235: [02:23:43] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast, and Main site->subsites->subsite->themes
236: [02:24:02] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast: they can have different values
237: [02:24:13] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: things-that-shoulkd-be-modules
238: [02:24:35] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast: how is that possible? Am I missing something
239: [02:24:55] <Ryan-Toast> srikanth: No idea, man. The less I know about subsites the better :P
240: [02:25:01] * antmas prods spronk
241: [02:25:47] <srikanth> Ryan-Toast: haha
242: [02:29:45] <Stomach> srikanth - the one in the settings doesnt matter, the subsites -> subsite one takes precedence
243: [02:30:00] <srikanth> Stomach, realized that
244: [02:30:12] <antmas> srikanth: is that the only 'error' you know see?
245: [02:30:20] <antmas> now*
246: [02:30:51] <srikanth> antmas: I have no problems applying one of the add on themes from ss website
247: [02:31:06] <srikanth> antmas, it seems to be moaning when I am trying to apply my custom theme
248: [02:31:23] <Stomach> does your theme have the same layout as the non-custom ones?
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250: [02:35:15] <srikanth> Stomach, not sure whether I understood your question correctly
251: [02:36:00] <srikanth> Stomach, my custom theme folder slightly differs from for ex: default
252: [02:37:07] <srikanth> Stomach, the files names in the templates differ
253: [02:37:58] <antmas> srikanth: you need to be a bit more clear on the error you see when trying to apply the custom theme
254: [02:50:03] <jordanmk> hey, any idea how i can prevent SilverStripe from escaping characters like "&" when outputting to a template?
255: [02:50:43] <jordanmk> i have a Text field property on a page, with the value containing an "&", and when i output that Text field in a template, it's converted to "&amp;"
256: [02:50:56] <jordanmk> when i actually want it to be outputted as "&"
257: [02:51:37] <Colin[pi]> dat flickr widget: http://i.imgur.com/u4FFBR1.png
258: [02:52:09] <jordanmk> since it's being outputted as part of a social share box which actually displays the content as "&amp;", rather than being outputted as HTML (which would display "&amp;" as the symbol it represents)
259: [02:53:53] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: is that an extension of the widgets module?
260: [02:54:24] <jordanmk> no ideas?
261: [02:54:26] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: custom widget I wrote, extension of Widget yes
262: [02:55:03] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: my footer widgets have some other custom voodoo happening though, to do responsive column sizes and such
263: [02:56:30] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: in smartphone width: http://i.imgur.com/RbWw1yE.png
264: [02:57:12] <jordanmk> simon_w, any idea on how to prevent SilverStripe converting "&" characters from a CMS text field into a HTML character in a template ("&amp;")?
265: [02:57:22] <Ryan-Toast> less than 769 should make them pocentage :)
266: [02:57:28] <Ryan-Toast> pocentage????? percentage.
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269: [03:03:49] <simon_w> jordanmk, store it in a HTMLText/HTMLVarchar
270: [03:04:10] <irogue_> SO MANY MEETINGS
271: [03:04:44] <antmas> mmmm meetings
272: [03:04:53] <irogue_> Colin[pi], antmas: confirmed i am WDCNZing
273: [03:05:16] <Colin[pi]> yay!
274: [03:05:38] <antmas> irogue_: awwwwwww yisss
275: [03:06:37] <jordanmk> simon_w, even as HTMLText it still converts "&" in the text field in the CMS to "&amp;" in the output to a template
276: [03:07:20] <jordanmk> not sure if it's an option anyway, the field is being used as the share text for a Twitter share button rather than being outputted as HTML on a page, so whatever text it's given is the literal text it uses for the share functionality
277: [03:07:39] <jordanmk> so i need SilverStripe to output the actual text character "&", not the HTML character "&amp;"
278: [03:10:14] <jordanmk> simon_w, i'm guessing there is no way to override SilverStripe's conversion of characters like "&" to their equivalent HTML characters ("&amp;") when outputting to a template
279: [03:10:27] <simon_w> jordanmk, if it's a HTML field, then it shouldn't be doing any conversion
280: [03:11:39] <jordanmk> but if i make it a HTML field, it will wrap the text in "<p>" tags and whatnot, which will get outputted into the Twitter share text
281: [03:12:29] <jordanmk> the place that the field is being rendered in a template is into a Twitter share button, which will use whatever content it's given as the literal share text (i.e. if there are &amp; or <p> tags, those will be part of the share text)
282: [03:13:15] <jordanmk> so i need a way to have the text outputted *exactly* as it's entered into the CMS, with no wrapping in <p> tags, and no conversion of characters to equivalent HTML characters
283: [03:13:21] <jordanmk> but i'm not sure if that's possible in SS
284: [03:14:29] <jordanmk> are you able to confirm if that's the case, simon_w?
285: [03:24:15] <simon_w> jordanmk, it'll only get wrapped like that if you're using a HtmlEditorField to save into it
286: [03:24:38] <antmas> irogue_: where are you going to stay?
287: [03:24:48] <antmas> I forget my hotel's name
288: [03:24:49] <jordanmk> ah, i was doing that. i'll try with a regular Text field
289: [03:25:01] <antmas> WestPlace?
290: [03:25:05] <antmas> WestPlaza
291: [03:25:08] <antmas> something
292: [03:25:20] <irogue_> heh, that's where pyro ss23 and i stayed last time
293: [03:25:59] <ss23> Was an okay place
294: [03:27:03] <antmas> yeah it looks pretty middle of the road
295: [03:27:05] <jordanmk> simon_w, just tried making the field HTMLText, with the CMS editor field being a TextField, and any "&" characters that i put into the CMS still get outputted as "&amp;" in the template
296: [03:27:26] <simon_w> jordanmk, did you flush after changing the field type to HTMLText?
297: [03:27:51] <antmas> awesome, push my updates live, someone tries a dev/build mid write and pulls the site down infront of customers!
298: [03:27:52] <antmas> lol
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300: [03:29:20] <simon_w> Now running git filter-branch over 2721 commits
301: [03:29:24] <simon_w> Furn times
302: [03:29:45] <jordanmk> simon_w, yeah i did a /dev/build and a flush
303: [03:30:16] <simon_w> jordanmk, how are you outputting it?
304: [03:31:18] <jordanmk> simon_w: http://pastebin.com/NYWHXt2c
305: [03:32:08] * simon_w guesses it's Hamish trying to be too fancy with links
306: [03:32:12] <simon_w> jordanmk, you can try .RAW
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308: [03:34:43] <antmas> is UC at SS yet?
309: [03:34:49] <Stomach> yes
310: [03:35:29] <jordanmk> simon_w, .RAW worked, cheers! :)
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317: [04:19:51] <simon_w> Ahh, now I'm importing code that was running on 3.0.0-alpha3
318: [04:19:54] <simon_w> in production
319: [04:21:46] <simon_w> And there goes the framework rename
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321: [04:29:48] <ss23> Whatcha doin, simon_w?
322: [04:29:56] <simon_w> Migrating to gitlab
323: [04:30:04] <unclecheese> w00t!
324: [04:30:22] <ss23> simon_w: Why do you need to do this git stuff for that? o.o
325: [04:30:38] <simon_w> What git stuff?
326: [04:30:44] <ss23> 15:29:21 <@simon_w> Now running git filter-branch over 2721 commits
327: [04:30:51] <ss23> 16:19:52 <@simon_w> Ahh, now I'm importing code that was running on 3.0.0-alpha3
328: [04:30:54] <ss23> etc
329: [04:30:55] <simon_w> Oh right, because someone committed the assets folder
330: [04:31:16] <simon_w> The latter one is because we're keeping our history
331: [04:31:20] <ss23> Why not just remove it?
332: [04:31:30] <ss23> I mean, no need to go and rewrite history!
333: [04:31:58] <simon_w> That's what the filter-branch was for
334: [04:32:04] <simon_w> Going through and removing it from the history
335: [04:33:07] <ss23> I mean, why do are you rewriting history?
336: [04:33:12] <ss23> Why do you care if it's in the history?
337: [04:33:20] <ss23> And for uh 16:31:16 <@simon_w> The latter one is because we're keeping our history
338: [04:33:23] <ss23> What do you mean? :O
339: [04:33:49] <ss23> When we migrate to gitlab, we either just git push the repo, or use the "import existing git" feature of gitlab?
340: [04:33:57] <ss23> either way, is simple/easy/one thing?
341: [04:34:00] <simon_w> We're not migrating from git
342: [04:34:06] <ss23> Oh! XD
343: [04:34:07] <ss23> I forgot about that
344: [04:34:12] <ss23> The joys of using legacy systems for ages
345: [04:34:16] <ss23> makes sense
346: [04:34:32] <irogue_> gitlab
347: [04:34:33] <irogue_> so good
348: [04:34:35] <irogue_> gitorious
349: [04:34:36] <irogue_> so bad
350: [04:34:36] <ss23> ^ truthis
351: [04:34:43] <simon_w> github, so meh
352: [04:35:03] <irogue_> github, so fine if you don't want private repos but then it gets expensive oh so very quickly
353: [04:35:27] <Colin[pi]> ^ this
354: [04:35:43] <simon_w> We've got 9 non-public repos
355: [04:35:57] <simon_w> We're already spending $5/month less than we would on github and have more controls
356: [04:36:16] <ss23> This of course assumes your time is worthless
357: [04:36:19] * ajmitch just uses bitbucket for private repos
358: [04:36:20] <ss23> :3
359: [04:36:38] <Colin[pi]> ajmitch: mm I was trying to decide between bitbucket or gitlab
360: [04:36:50] <unclecheese> gitlab is the most complicated installation i’ve ever seen
361: [04:36:51] <ss23> Colin[pi]: Isn't that a choice of self-hosted or not?
362: [04:36:53] <simon_w> ss23, my time will be earned back in about three months
363: [04:37:03] <unclecheese> i can’t believe it worked straight away
364: [04:37:04] <simon_w> unclecheese, then you're doing it wrong
365: [04:37:07] <Colin[pi]> ss23: wait does gitlab do the hosting or is it your own server?
366: [04:37:09] <ss23> haha
367: [04:37:13] <unclecheese> have you seen the readme?
368: [04:37:14] <simon_w> Colin[pi], self-hosted
369: [04:37:18] <Colin[pi]> ah k, that's fine
370: [04:37:21] <unclecheese> it’s like thirty pages long
371: [04:37:33] <unclecheese> there’s like 200 commands you have to run
372: [04:37:36] <ajmitch> bitbucket is free private repos for up to 5 users iirc, so it's obviously not for everyone
373: [04:37:40] <ss23> Colin[pi]: They have a free gitlab.com too
374: [04:37:40] <simon_w> Download package from https://www.gitlab.com/downloads/
375: [04:37:45] <simon_w> Use package manager to install it
376: [04:37:46] <simon_w> Done
377: [04:37:50] <unclecheese> ?!
378: [04:37:57] <Colin[pi]> sweet
379: [04:38:01] <ss23> Colin[pi]: It was more like... I think in general, if you want it hosted, you use Bitbucket, else self hosted you use Gitlab
380: [04:38:04] <ss23> And Github for opensource
381: [04:38:11] <Colin[pi]> mm
382: [04:38:14] <simon_w> https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/omnibus-gitlab/blob/master/README.md
383: [04:38:44] <irogue_> yeah, if you do the manual install, you're gonna have a bad time
384: [04:38:56] <irogue_> but there's packages for debian, ubuntu and any RHEL-based distros
385: [04:40:02] * irogue_ installed gitlab, set up an ldap server, and made gitlab auth against the ldap in like 2 hours on sunday
386: [04:40:59] * simon_w spent more time waiting for Mark to put in a CC for the DO account than he spent setting up GitLab yesterday
387: [04:41:13] <simon_w> And Ansible made it really easy to get our SSL certs on the box
388: [04:41:15] <irogue_> lol
389: [04:44:06] <Colin[pi]> just got a skype request from "whirly.labia" - seems legit
390: [04:44:11] <irogue_> bahaha
391: [04:44:17] <irogue_> i got an instant mental picture
392: [04:44:19] <irogue_> and it was odd
393: [04:44:23] <Colin[pi]> lol
394: [04:52:38] <ss23> A guy at Modica has the name "Seamus Ah Kit-Egan"
395: [04:52:50] <ss23> Which sounds *amazing* if you say it IRL
396: [04:52:56] <ss23> seamus ahkiteagen!
397: [04:55:30] <jordanmk> simon_w, i'm attempting to get this Pages widget working with a ListBoxField like you suggested, here's what i have so far: http://pastebin.com/zKvct0VH
398: [04:56:02] <jordanmk> the pages come up correctly in the widget in the CMS, but after selecting a few and clicking Save and Publish, it fails to save
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401: [05:00:49] <irogue_> homotime!
402: [05:02:19] <jordanmk> simon_w, nevermind, got it working, cheers for the suggestion :)
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420: [07:24:29] <willagain> when using the spam protection module, is there a way to add a anchor or querystring to the url it returns to?
421: [07:25:08] <willagain> cos my form is in a tab. so i wanna intercept something in the url and redisplay the form if it gets rejected by akismet
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424: [07:36:49] <willagain> actually, is it possible to alter the url whenever any of the validations fail?
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426: [07:48:11] <willagain> well, i can set the action url for the form, but then it just submits without going through the actual Submit() function
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436: [08:06:34] <guci0> Hello World!
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438: [08:07:41] <Pyoldk> Hi guci0
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441: [08:15:49] * irogue_ pokes sminnee, wondering if he is actually here :P
442: [08:15:55] <sminnee> hey, ye[
443: [08:15:58] <sminnee> ye[
444: [08:15:59] <sminnee> yep
445: [08:16:03] <sminnee> …new keyboard :p
446: [08:16:13] <irogue_> haha
447: [08:18:58] <Pyoldk> sminnee: is it dvorak or something?
448: [08:19:06] <Pyoldk> or just tiny?
449: [08:19:13] <Pyoldk> :P
450: [08:19:16] <sminnee> nah just a new laptop so the p & [ were a bit closer together than i’m used to
451: [08:19:27] <Pyoldk> mm, just tiny :>
452: [08:19:37] <sminnee> and, yeah, just installed colloquy on the laptop, so… no IRC!
453: [08:19:38] <irogue_> the bloody wireless apple keyboards, like is in the big top
454: [08:19:42] <Pyoldk> so someone told me about this debate raging with getCMSFields()
455: [08:19:47] <Pyoldk> is there a link anyone has handy?
456: [08:19:49] <irogue_> i *cannot* type on that
457: [08:20:03] <irogue_> nor can davidj
458: [08:20:05] <sminnee> heh
459: [08:20:11] <irogue_> so apparently there's something weird with the letter spacing or something
460: [08:20:21] <Pyoldk> I'm confused.
461: [08:20:38] <Pyoldk> irogue_ is suddenly mac guy?
462: [08:20:47] <irogue_> lol
463: [08:21:18] <Pyoldk> hey ssl, winning
464: [08:21:21] * Pyoldk is now known as Pyromanik
465: [08:21:40] <Pyromanik> win!
466: [08:21:42] <Pyromanik> :D
467: [08:21:48] <irogue_> Pyoldk: they make the best laptops, and OSX is a fuckload easier to do dev stuff on due to comparative ease of installing stuff made for linux
468: [08:22:11] <Pyromanik> this is true right, because ports or something
469: [08:22:25] <Pyromanik> so anyway, where is the dev list hiding?
470: [08:22:31] <irogue_> yeah, macports instead of having to deal with cygwin or something
471: [08:22:38] <irogue_> Pyromanik: search on groups.google.com for silverstripe-dev
472: [08:22:54] <irogue_> Pyromanik: also, i'd be *very* out of place at SS with a windows laptop
473: [08:22:55] <Pyromanik> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ss-dev
474: [08:23:08] <Pyromanik> irogue_: yeah well this is probably the more true factor.
475: [08:24:11] <irogue_> Oly stands out enough having an iMac instead of a MacBook
476: [08:25:36] <irogue> sminnee: just gonna PM you quickly re some work stuff (since i have no private life :P)
477: [08:25:45] <sminnee> sweeet as
478: [08:26:11] <Pyromanik> irogue: public life, best life?
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480: [08:26:40] <Pyromanik> that way anyone can overide your life? or somthing like that.
481: [08:26:55] <Pyromanik> It's that spronk2 guy
482: [08:27:05] <Pyromanik> why are there 2 of you these days spronk>
483: [08:28:59] <Pyromanik> is this that yarn? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/silverstripe-dev/Oc4OAJcKtVs
484: [08:30:27] <Pyromanik> ah yup, seems to snowball into it.
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488: [08:56:58] <kinglozzer> Pyromanik: Happy birthday for last week
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491: [08:57:57] <wmk> Pyromanik, yeah, happy birthday
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493: [09:02:36] <Pyromanik> thanks chaps, kinglozzer wmk :)
494: [09:02:46] <Pyromanik> I'm all old and responsible and shit now
495: [09:04:05] <ARNHOE> Anyone have suggestions on how to import a rss feed in dataobject for ss3.0/ss3.1 ?
496: [09:05:44] <Pyromanik> the blog module used to use simplepie
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498: [09:09:21] <ARNHOE> yeah, rssconnector does aswell. But its build in 2.4, and there deprecated notices coming from simplepie
499: [09:10:29] <Pyromanik> yeah simplepie is nothing but coderot since 2.2.3 or something
500: [09:10:38] <Pyromanik> I think it was FINALLY removed recently
501: [09:10:43] <Pyromanik> (from core)
502: [09:11:49] <ARNHOE> not sure about anything in the core, but the thirdparty folder is still there
503: [09:13:07] <Pyromanik> yeah, used to be thirdparty/simplepie
504: [09:13:25] <Pyromanik> SS uses a few other open source projects
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507: [09:23:28] <Pyromanik> hello simon_w :)
508: [09:23:33] <simon_w|air> Morning Pyromanik
509: [09:25:26] <Pyromanik> I gave in and ate my sandwich. It was great.
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512: [09:32:21] <Colin[pi]> hai Pyromanik
513: [09:33:34] <simon_w|air> So were the tacos I just had
514: [09:33:53] <Pyromanik> nom
515: [09:33:55] <Pyromanik> hi Colin[pi]
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517: [09:35:31] <Pyromanik> so just got a company email talking about getting PCP
518: [09:35:56] <Pyromanik> I was all o.0, but turns out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_contract_purchase
519: [09:36:38] <Pyromanik> Not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine
520: [09:36:40] <Pyromanik> xD
521: [09:39:05] <simon_w|air> Disappointing :p
522: [09:39:57] <Pyromanik> haha, well...
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524: [09:40:11] <Pyromanik> :P
525: [09:40:33] <UncleCheese> Switched to Textual
526: [09:40:38] <UncleCheese> pretty sharp
527: [09:40:47] <Pyromanik> so simon_w|air, where did the getCMSFields debate get to in the end?
528: [09:40:55] <simon_w|air> What debate?
529: [09:41:02] <UncleCheese> in the mailing list
530: [09:41:10] <Pyromanik> the one about removing it
531: [09:41:13] <Pyromanik> well... abstracting it
532: [09:41:28] <UncleCheese> i'm for removing it
533: [09:41:30] <Pyromanik> because Objects > switch { apparently
534: [09:41:38] <simon_w|air> Just like all discussions on the mailing list, nowhere :p
535: [09:41:44] <Pyromanik> but in all fairness, controller sniffing bad anyway, so yeh
536: [09:41:54] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: simon_w|air https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/silverstripe-dev/Oc4OAJcKtVs this one right?
537: [09:42:02] <UncleCheese> yes
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539: [09:42:23] <Pyromanik> so yeah, I was thinking that form fields are pretty view related rght
540: [09:42:31] <Pyromanik> so having a new class for every view seems a bit silly
541: [09:42:37] <Pyromanik> should be kinda-templatesd
542: [09:42:42] <Pyromanik> yaml all the things!
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545: [09:43:29] <Pyromanik> mebbe
546: [09:43:55] <Pyromanik> because declarative is the bomb, something css folks just can't get their heads around.
547: [09:44:28] <Pyromanik> hmm, actually we'll probably end up with a form fields preprocessor in a years time if we go down that road.
548: [09:44:37] <Pyromanik> :<
549: [09:44:57] <Pyromanik> because hacking around misunderstandings > learning
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555: [10:08:31] <openbees> did anyone saw this error in CMS before ? appears when creating any page type .. makes button keep loading for infinite time :( although I can see page created if I refresh page. http://postimg.org/image/k14h83jxl/
556: [10:09:13] <openbees> also appears on specific server only works on other.
557: [10:11:15] <Pyromanik> javascript error openbees
558: [10:11:23] <Pyromanik> open dev tools console and take a peek
559: [10:11:45] <Pyromanik> I bet the create is returning something unexpected. A notice error or similar probably
560: [10:12:14] <Pyromanik> ie, code isn't collapsing (because page is made) but the returned data isn't in the format the JS is set up to handle.
561: [10:12:16] <Pyromanik> most likely.
562: [10:12:23] <Pyromanik> thus error.
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567: [10:31:40] <Fisix_AIX> hello, I have a data model that includes has_one and has_many relationships and I need to convert these to json including relationships, is there a silverstripe way to do this or would I need to create function to build the data structure I need?
568: [10:39:26] <Zauberfisch> Fisix_AIX: there is a module for it, but i STRONGLY advise against using that
569: [10:39:35] <Zauberfisch> you gonna be subject to a lot of pain
570: [10:39:49] <Zauberfisch> just build it yourself
571: [10:39:57] <Zauberfisch> it should be ... idk, 5 lines?
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573: [10:41:55] <Zauberfisch> Fisix_AIX: what is your exact usecase?
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575: [10:43:08] <micmania1> Pyromanik: pub on friday?
576: [10:43:27] <openbees> Pyromanik : so I see working site have nothing in response content size : 0 and in buggy one it returns empty string length of size 1 .. now the question is why ? :|
577: [10:43:53] <openbees> no error or warning though.
578: [10:44:04] <Pyromanik> micmania1: awww, yeh. k.
579: [10:44:29] <micmania1> sweet. I think a few people are ACTUALLY coming out this time.
580: [10:44:33] <Pyromanik> openbees: sounds like error but display_errors is off
581: [10:46:08] <Pyromanik> Fisix_AIX: Zauberfisch could be done in template if one was careful, but simply returning a string of json_encode(all the things->toArray()) should probably be fine.
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583: [10:49:45] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: who would build json in template, that sounds insane
584: [10:50:19] <Pyromanik> I would.
585: [10:50:22] <Zauberfisch> and yeah, json_encode and ->toArray() is the way to go
586: [10:50:24] <Pyromanik> Just because I could.
587: [10:50:26] <Zauberfisch> :D
588: [10:50:29] <Pyromanik> xD
589: [10:50:42] <Pyromanik> Fuck man, I totally should have moved to Munich.
590: [10:50:55] <Pyromanik> oh well.
591: [10:50:58] <Zauberfisch> :O
592: [10:51:05] <Zauberfisch> I always liked londong
593: [10:51:10] <Zauberfisch> but then again I haven't been there that much
594: [10:51:17] <Pyromanik> first time on the continent, great time was had :D
595: [10:51:23] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: mm, not in London though.
596: [10:51:31] <UncleCheese> Pyromanik: are you at the SS meetup?
597: [10:51:37] <Pyromanik> also, not sure London would be much better, it's still UKIP prone :<
598: [10:51:43] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: yes!
599: [10:51:53] <UncleCheese> aw, man.. i was supposed to be there
600: [10:52:00] <micmania1> is the meetup still happening?
601: [10:52:02] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: you're missing out man
602: [10:52:05] <Zauberfisch> the EU one?
603: [10:52:06] <UncleCheese> i'll bet
604: [10:52:12] <micmania1> aye
605: [10:52:16] <Zauberfisch> yes, I should totally get back on track with that one
606: [10:52:17] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: there's pizza... and strippers
607: [10:52:20] <Pyromanik> silver strippers!
608: [10:52:28] <UncleCheese> yeah, the dutch guy who's organising it offered to fly me out
609: [10:52:31] <Zauberfisch> kindof let it go silent
610: [10:52:42] <UncleCheese> and my employer was ok with it
611: [10:52:47] <Pyromanik> I vote Munich, because it's awesome. We can go drink crates in the river :P
612: [10:52:49] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: that is, if there is enough sponsoring :P
613: [10:52:50] <UncleCheese> but the wife wasn't :(
614: [10:52:56] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: guts :<
615: [10:53:04] <Pyromanik> is it because she was all jealous and stuff?
616: [10:53:09] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: we actually want someone from silverstripe to come
617: [10:53:11] <UncleCheese> nah
618: [10:53:13] <Zauberfisch> so you would be a good pick
619: [10:53:24] <Zauberfisch> and I am pretty sure SilverStrpe would allow that as well
620: [10:53:26] <UncleCheese> just asking a lot for her to look after the kid alone
621: [10:53:37] <Pyromanik> and sminnee, and irogue, and ss23
622: [10:53:39] <UncleCheese> and i wasn't so keen on going around the world in May and then again in July
623: [10:53:57] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: wait, may and July?
624: [10:53:59] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: make it a family holliday
625: [10:53:59] <Zauberfisch> yay
626: [10:54:01] <UncleCheese> yeah
627: [10:54:08] <UncleCheese> USA
628: [10:54:13] <Pyromanik> but this meetup isn't until... september or something
629: [10:54:14] <Zauberfisch> so, yeah, the event is going to happen
630: [10:54:20] <Zauberfisch> but probably later
631: [10:54:21] <UncleCheese> wait
632: [10:54:27] <Zauberfisch> so yeah, september or something
633: [10:54:41] <Pyromanik> so long as it's still sunny and warm Zauberfisch! :D
634: [10:54:42] <Zauberfisch> june/juli is just to short notice
635: [10:54:52] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: who cares about sunny and warm :S
636: [10:54:56] <Pyromanik> wholey shit had it turned on for me last week. ~30 deg C
637: [10:55:10] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: such a geek :P
638: [10:55:43] <simon_w|air> It's rained for the first time since I moved to Canberra
639: [10:55:47] <simon_w|air> I went out walking in it :D
640: [10:55:54] <Pyromanik> nce simon_w|air
641: [10:56:04] <Pyromanik> nothing quite like a stroll in warm rain
642: [10:57:10] <simon_w|air> Though it was weird
643: [10:57:15] <simon_w|air> The rain was failing straight down
644: [10:57:20] <Pyromanik> hahaha
645: [10:57:21] <Pyromanik> xD
646: [10:57:38] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: london is current favourit for the location btw
647: [10:57:50] <Pyromanik> pfft, screw that
648: [10:57:53] <Zauberfisch> we kind of ruled out germany because it seems travel kost is pretty high
649: [10:58:01] <Zauberfisch> but I am also still considering austria
650: [10:58:10] <Pyromanik> somewhere exotic... so maybe... Romania!
651: [10:58:11] <Zauberfisch> because it has one certain benefit: I can do everything myself
652: [10:58:15] <Pyromanik> xD
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654: [10:58:19] <Zauberfisch> and I don't have to go far :D
655: [10:58:23] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: this is true.
656: [10:58:31] <simon_w|air> Ooh, Zauberfisch, you've run a meet up, right?
657: [10:58:34] <simon_w|air> What's involved?
658: [10:58:35] <Pyromanik> London doesn't require my passport, so yeh.
659: [10:58:38] <Pyromanik> nah
660: [10:58:41] <Pyromanik> simon_w|air: meetings!
661: [10:58:45] <Pyromanik> and ups!
662: [10:58:50] <Colin[pi]> and beer!
663: [10:58:57] <Colin[pi]> but not for simon_w|air
664: [10:58:59] <Pyromanik> Definitely beer.
665: [10:59:08] <Zauberfisch> and I already have location here that we can get for free. 100-200people, beamer, wifi, power suplys, even a camera to record if we want
666: [10:59:10] <wmk> "The detailed information for this add-on has not yet been built. "
667: [10:59:11] <Zauberfisch> all setup for us
668: [10:59:12] <Zauberfisch> for free
669: [10:59:13] <Pyromanik> Bavaria so good. Travel cost is cheap I thought.
670: [10:59:16] <wmk> hmm, is it ever boilt?
671: [10:59:20] <Pyromanik> but has to suit everyone.
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673: [10:59:28] <Pyromanik> Plus I've been there now... maybe Switzerland?
674: [10:59:32] <Pyromanik> :P
675: [10:59:32] <simon_w|air> wmk, I think it's once an hour or day
676: [10:59:35] <simon_w|air> Can't remember
677: [10:59:42] <Pyromanik> Italy! xD
678: [11:00:00] <Pyromanik> ALL THE PLACES, we'll hire a bus and meetup for a week! :P
679: [11:00:05] <Pyromanik> haha
680: [11:00:07] <Zauberfisch> :D
681: [11:00:09] <Zauberfisch> ss on the road
682: [11:00:11] <Zauberfisch> right
683: [11:00:15] <wmk> simon_w|air, it has never been built for the module since it was uploaded
684: [11:00:23] <Pyromanik> giving out stickers in a geeksville near you! :P
685: [11:00:56] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: 200 people for free?
686: [11:01:01] <Pyromanik> also, what is 'beamer' ?
687: [11:01:05] <Pyromanik> besides 'BMW'
688: [11:01:13] <Zauberfisch> ah, right. beamer is a projector
689: [11:01:17] <Pyromanik> ah
690: [11:01:22] <Pyromanik> makes sense
691: [11:01:23] <Zauberfisch> no idea why we german speaking people call it that
692: [11:01:28] <Pyromanik> sounds more like a conference!
693: [11:01:30] <Zauberfisch> probably comes from the light beam
694: [11:01:45] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: the locations biggest room can fit 200 people sitting
695: [11:01:47] <Pyromanik> we'll need to invite a guy named scott
696: [11:01:55] <Pyromanik> so I can say 'Beamer me up Scotty!@
697: [11:01:57] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: we obviously can go smaller as well
698: [11:01:59] <Pyromanik> "*
699: [11:02:04] <Pyromanik> :P
700: [11:02:13] <Zauberfisch> http://www.linuxwochen-linz.at/2014/assets/gallery/2014-05-17/DSC06573.JPG
701: [11:02:17] <Zauberfisch> this is one of the smaller rooms
702: [11:02:25] <Zauberfisch> well, sract that
703: [11:02:33] <Zauberfisch> its one of the bigger roomes, but not the biggest
704: [11:02:39] <Pyromanik> Oh I have a thing in September.
705: [11:02:40] <Pyromanik> hmm
706: [11:02:45] <Zauberfisch> can fit. idk, 60 people with tables
707: [11:02:59] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: sounds like we'll have maybe 20 max tbh.
708: [11:03:07] <Pyromanik> unless we really campaign it.
709: [11:03:17] <Pyromanik> would def. need a core dev to trip out though.
710: [11:03:34] <Zauberfisch> well, I am fine with 20 people as well
711: [11:03:38] <Zauberfisch> but I think we can top that
712: [11:03:39] <Pyromanik> as an attraction to the more casual interest folk.
713: [11:04:00] <Pyromanik> it'd need to be more conferencey
714: [11:04:10] <Zauberfisch> if we make it somewhere in central europe, then there is like 5 people from austria, surely 5+ from germany and swizerland each as well
715: [11:04:29] <Zauberfisch> thats already 15
716: [11:04:30] <Pyromanik> to get large numbers. Otherwise it's pretty much going to be you, me, simon, maybe some chaps from better brief and kinglozzer
717: [11:04:44] <Pyromanik> oh really?
718: [11:04:59] <wmk> Pyromanik, well, that would be ok for a start, wouldn't it?
719: [11:05:01] <Pyromanik> hmm, that moment when you find out the community is bigger than you thought!
720: [11:05:09] <Pyromanik> wmk: for sure :)
721: [11:05:16] <Pyromanik> ps, you too :P
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723: [11:05:32] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: I was thinking we make it sort of a conference, but call it a meetup
724: [11:05:44] <Zauberfisch> so we don't set expectations to high
725: [11:05:44] <Pyromanik> an unconference!
726: [11:05:47] <Zauberfisch> and have a great time
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728: [11:05:58] <Pyromanik> uncons are pretty much that
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730: [11:06:33] <ss23> 22:53:11 < Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: we actually want someone from silverstripe to come
731: [11:06:37] <ss23> MEEEE
732: [11:06:37] <ss23> PAY FOR ME AND I COME
733: [11:06:37] <ss23> :D
734: [11:06:45] <Zauberfisch> ss23: :D
735: [11:06:53] <Zauberfisch> well, meetup is going to be free of charge hopefully
736: [11:06:58] <Pyromanik> ss23: convince sminnee to drag you along.
737: [11:06:58] <kinglozzer> ss23: Do a kickstarter to pay for your flight :P
738: [11:07:04] <Pyromanik> haha xD
739: [11:07:08] <Zauberfisch> so there will not be much money to wave around
740: [11:07:12] <UncleCheese> ss23: it's a non-starter.. they'd have to buy a second seat for your hair
741: [11:07:21] <Pyromanik> haha
742: [11:07:47] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: nah, he can just wear a dress and get away with it by leaning over the counter at checkin and winking
743: [11:07:58] <UncleCheese> :O
744: [11:08:09] <Zauberfisch> haha
745: [11:08:47] <Pyromanik> simon_w|air: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ihL_FrFPs
746: [11:08:48] <Pyromanik> xD
747: [11:09:12] <simon_w|air> Pyromanik, damn right rain should go up ways :p
748: [11:09:39] <Pyromanik> xD !!
749: [11:12:34] <Pyromanik> what's that command to git diff last head?
750: [11:13:10] <ss23> Pyromanik: git show
751: [11:14:07] <Pyromanik> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2428270/git-how-to-diff-changed-files-versus-previous-versions-after-a-pull
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753: [11:14:25] <Pyromanik> legit ss23, ta
754: [11:14:53] <kinglozzer> Pyromanik: The north is rubbing off on you; "legit"
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756: [11:15:15] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer: that's univeral son
757: [11:15:17] <kinglozzer> Do people use "mint" much up there?
758: [11:15:24] <Pyromanik> umm, a bit
759: [11:15:29] <kinglozzer> TV says everyone uses it all the time, TV wouldn't lie to me
760: [11:15:40] <Pyromanik> mint was a think in NZ uhh.. 10+ years ago
761: [11:16:39] <Pyromanik> legit is fading but was a thing in nz maybe 2-5 years ago
762: [11:16:56] <Pyromanik> I dunno man, I'm not in high school anymore :P
763: [11:17:01] <kinglozzer> The worst fad was "safe" - people started using it ironically and never stopped
764: [11:17:16] <Pyromanik> haha, I know someone who uses that! :P
765: [11:17:22] <ss23> lol
766: [11:17:25] <ss23> We don't have "safe" here
767: [11:17:26] <Pyromanik> not up here though...
768: [11:17:33] <ss23> but yeah, legit is a bit dated now
769: [11:17:53] <Pyromanik> ss23: sif, too legit to quit!
770: [11:17:56] <Pyromanik> xD
771: [11:18:25] <Pyromanik> But yeh, I've only heard folk from Bristol say 'safe' :P
772: [11:18:47] <Pyromanik> there's a lot of 'like' going on up here.
773: [11:19:00] <Pyromanik> There is in NZ too, but it's different HOW it's used.
774: [11:19:26] <Pyromanik> in NZ it's still a bullshit filler, but follows the more american display of 'similar to ish maybe I'm not sure'
775: [11:19:43] <Pyromanik> where is here it sorta does the same thing, but it's more of a full stop.
776: [11:20:01] <Pyromanik> "It's kind of like a bit of code"
777: [11:20:09] <Pyromanik> vs "It's a bit of code like"
778: [11:21:09] <Pyromanik> "It's like he was a bit confused" : "He was a bit confused like"
779: [11:21:21] <kinglozzer> Pyromanik: Ending a sentence with "like" is definitely a northern thing
780: [11:21:31] <kinglozzer> No one down here does it
781: [11:21:31] <Pyromanik> and southern thing apparently!
782: [11:21:37] <Pyromanik> in Ireland :P
783: [11:21:40] <kinglozzer> D: never heard anyone!
784: [11:21:44] <kinglozzer> Ah yeah, maybe there
785: [11:21:47] <Pyromanik> According to Youtube it's a thing in Cork.
786: [11:21:50] <Pyromanik> caak
787: [11:22:56] <Pyromanik> areet is a northern thing, for sure
788: [11:23:05] <Pyromanik> from here way up into scotland.
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799: [12:07:41] <micmania1> Pyromanik: areet is a Geordie thing
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802: [12:14:24] <Pyromanik> micmania1: yeah, but 'alright' is a northern thing.
803: [12:14:39] <Pyromanik> I had it a lot up in Dundee too
804: [12:14:42] <micmania1> and 'like' is our full stop lol
805: [12:14:59] <Pyromanik> haha, I know, but it works in a 'sort of' or 'ish' kinda way too mostly.
806: [12:15:03] <Pyromanik> like.
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819: [13:51:44] <micmania1> SIESTA
820: [13:51:54] <kinglozzer> YES
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823: [14:06:30] <Pyromanik> halfway
824: [14:06:41] <Pyromanik> just opened window for glorious revival
825: [14:07:03] <Pyromanik> hmm, turns out the wind is picking up micmania1
826: [14:07:14] <Pyromanik> slightly
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830: [14:25:56] <kosepusen> struggling with a encoding issue.... anyone who might have some insight ?
831: [14:26:17] <Zauberfisch> kosepusen: no
832: [14:26:32] <Zauberfisch> we do not have magic powers to see what your problem is
833: [14:26:36] <Pyromanik> lol, Zauberfisch
834: [14:26:41] <Zauberfisch> :D
835: [14:26:41] <kosepusen> i sent a URL yesterday ?
836: [14:26:43] <Pyromanik> blunt, but true.
837: [14:26:50] <kosepusen> yea, i get that, but i did send an example
838: [14:26:53] <kosepusen> i can try again ?
839: [14:26:54] <Pyromanik> kosepusen: great, a public holiday!
840: [14:26:57] <Zauberfisch> sure, send it again
841: [14:27:05] <Pyromanik> yep
842: [14:27:09] <kosepusen> public holiday ? lost me on that one
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844: [14:27:16] <Zauberfisch> I can-'t rememberfurther back than a few minutes
845: [14:27:17] <Pyromanik> kosepusen: this is LIVE chat.
846: [14:27:22] <Pyromanik> Yesterday was a public holiday here.
847: [14:27:28] <kosepusen> ...yes... oh, here is ?
848: [14:27:41] <Pyromanik> half the people possibly able to answer your question were not here.
849: [14:27:45] <Pyromanik> thus did not see your example
850: [14:27:56] <kosepusen> right, got it - it was a normal day here
851: [14:27:58] <kosepusen> http://development.jenniferstrand.com/solberg/bruktbiler/car/48660467
852: [14:28:09] <Pyromanik> along with anyone else who was otherwise not here, or afk ;)
853: [14:28:30] <Pyromanik> hahahahah
854: [14:28:31] <Pyromanik> hahahaha
855: [14:28:36] <Pyromanik> kosepusen: you know what causes that?
856: [14:28:41] <Pyromanik> Developing on a Mac.
857: [14:29:07] <kosepusen> what causes those ? signes ? yea, encoding issue.. somewhere.. some are right, some are not right, so not sure where my encoding is off
858: [14:29:42] <kosepusen> no mac here
859: [14:29:45] <Pyromanik> probably file level.
860: [14:29:54] <Pyromanik> change template encoding to UTF-8
861: [14:30:08] <Pyromanik> and use a decent editor that saves in that format by default.
862: [14:30:18] <kosepusen> notepadd++
863: [14:30:42] <Zauberfisch> yeah, I am also assuming the file is saved with wrong encoding
864: [14:30:43] <Pyromanik> cool, easy then.
865: [14:30:52] <Zauberfisch> also, you are setting the charset encoding twice in the html
866: [14:30:58] <Zauberfisch> but that shouldn't be a problem though
867: [14:30:58] <Pyromanik> Encoding, Encode in UTF 8 without BOM
868: [14:31:04] <Pyromanik> save, job done.
869: [14:31:15] <kosepusen> right, that was probably in my deseprate search for my error
870: [14:31:27] <Pyromanik> also yeah, beware HTML directives that alter encoding for you.
871: [14:31:28] <Zauberfisch> kosepusen: I am assuming special chars from the database work?
872: [14:31:36] <Pyromanik> also ensure you've set thedefault language for your site in the config.
873: [14:31:54] <Pyromanik> no_NO or whatever it is.
874: [14:31:56] <kosepusen> not exactly a database, but, something like it (reading fro XML)
875: [14:32:09] <Zauberfisch> xml is another topic
876: [14:32:16] <kosepusen> those from xml work
877: [14:32:22] <kosepusen> it's what i type into my .ss file that don't
878: [14:32:25] <Zauberfisch> database encoding with silverstripe usually works out of the box
879: [14:32:30] <Zauberfisch> ok, xml works
880: [14:32:31] <Zauberfisch> good
881: [14:32:34] <kosepusen> so, it's how I save my file ? a setting in notepad++ ?
882: [14:32:39] <Zauberfisch> ok, so ss files don
883: [14:32:41] <Zauberfisch> 't work
884: [14:32:42] <Pyromanik> kosepusen: as I said above.
885: [14:32:42] <Zauberfisch> I see
886: [14:32:53] <Zauberfisch> then its certainly a problem with the encoding you save it as
887: [14:32:54] <Pyromanik> Menus: Encoding -> Encode in UTF 8 without BOM
888: [14:32:57] <Pyromanik> save
889: [14:33:14] <Pyromanik> without BOM is important
890: [14:33:26] <Zauberfisch> alternatively, a good practice is to write only english in template, and only use translation tags inside template
891: [14:33:32] <Pyromanik> also yeah, you don't need to <meta blah blah charset=>
892: [14:33:38] <Zauberfisch> this way you have all speciall char strings in a single file. the translation file
893: [14:33:46] <Zauberfisch> also makes translating a site later a lot easier
894: [14:33:49] <kosepusen> yep, that was it, thanks
895: [14:33:55] <Zauberfisch> afk
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897: [14:40:35] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: that works best when you've got a good grasp of English... not so much if you're not from a country that teaches it in school (well).
898: [14:41:05] <Pyromanik> Although most folks get by well enough I guess
899: [14:41:08] <Pyromanik> still
900: [14:41:56] <Pyromanik> although, in the other hand, there's nothing saying one can't dev a site in their native language and still just use translation strings to easily correct mistakes in the default fallbacks, etc.
901: [14:42:04] <Pyromanik> :>
902: [14:47:13] <micmania1> I learnt about BOM the hard way :(
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904: [14:51:20] <Pyromanik> as did I, rofl :/
905: [14:51:28] <Pyromanik> :|
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907: [15:09:36] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: we have english in school starting pretty early, but thats still only basics
908: [15:09:55] <Zauberfisch> especially because most german/austrian english teachers don't speak english that well themselfs
909: [15:11:16] <Zauberfisch> the good english I write and speak today, I soley owe to the internet.
910: [15:12:36] <Zauberfisch> the internet, online gaming in paticular is where I really learned enlgish
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913: [15:24:23] <Pyromanik> micmania1: got a work function on Friday actually, hahaha
914: [15:24:27] <Pyromanik> forgot :<
915: [15:25:15] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: but... you speak pretty good English... if you learnt from gaming surely you'd only know "omg, wtf, wanker, dick" etc :P
916: [15:25:27] <Pyromanik> oh, and RRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
917: [15:25:29] <Pyromanik> xD
918: [15:26:21] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: well, my primary game was/is one of a more disciplined nature
919: [15:26:31] <Pyromanik> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC0JGEAGMmA
920: [15:26:33] <Pyromanik> xD
921: [15:26:38] <Pyromanik> haha, classic.
922: [15:27:00] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch: I figured as much, hehe
923: [15:27:45] <micmania1> Pyromanik: you bailing?
924: [15:27:48] <Zauberfisch> haha, that video
925: [15:28:14] <Pyromanik> yeah, old but gold.
926: [15:30:39] <Pyromanik> micmania1: mmm, perhaps. Might take a quick pint.
927: [15:30:52] <micmania1> where you off?
928: [15:31:00] <Pyromanik> but sounds like I've already prior stuff.
929: [15:31:08] <Pyromanik> well I thought this time was going to be in Newcastle.
930: [15:31:17] <Pyromanik> but it sounds more like suddenly we're off to Durham
931: [15:34:38] <Zauberfisch> http://youtu.be/4aK_Y8KRCB0?t=10m36s
932: [15:34:42] <Zauberfisch> this is the sort of game I play
933: [15:35:06] <Pyromanik> ah, mount & blade eh
934: [15:35:13] <Zauberfisch> napoleonic wars
935: [15:35:19] <Zauberfisch> don't play native
936: [15:35:29] <Pyromanik> ah yeh
937: [15:36:14] <Zauberfisch> and napoleonic wars, even though based on the same engine, is a whole different game
938: [15:36:22] <Zauberfisch> the only thing similar is the melee system
939: [15:36:53] <Zauberfisch> especially when you play in one of the serious clans, then its again a whole new world
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941: [15:40:00] <Pyromanik> often is, clans tend to take games waaaay too seriously.
942: [15:40:19] <Pyromanik> although it depends on teh game, sometimes that can be suited.
943: [15:40:35] <Pyromanik> M&B being one of those I think, with a bit more refined type folks playing it
944: [15:48:01] <Pyromanik> But yeh Zauberfisch, the one thing I noticed in Munich is that almost everyone spoke pretty damn good English, without having to think about it.
945: [16:12:30] <Zauberfisch> Pyromanik: yeah, it also depends on the city. the bigger the city, the better the english
946: [16:14:59] <Pyromanik> true enough I guess. More exposure to tourists and stuff I suppose
947: [16:15:16] <Pyromanik> and generally immigrants.
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949: [16:17:01] <DimiStripe> Hi guys, SS 3.1.5 - have two queries from same DataObject and need combining those to produce XML output
950: [16:17:13] <DimiStripe> ->merge does not work anymore from 2.4.
951: [16:17:17] <DimiStripe> any hint ?
952: [16:21:36] <kinglozzer> DimiStripe: ->merge() won't work on a DataList
953: [16:21:43] <kinglozzer> You'll need to convert them both to ArrayLists first
954: [16:22:38] <kinglozzer> $listA = new ArrayList($listA->toArrray()); $listB = new ArrayList($listB->toArray()); $listA->merge($listB); return $listA;
955: [16:22:40] <kinglozzer> Or something
956: [16:24:11] <DimiStripe> hmm , will try , thanks :)
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983: [19:29:05] <shellbackpacific> how easy is it to enter content into a dev instance, export it, and re-import it into another instance?
984: [19:29:15] <shellbackpacific> are there tons of pitfalls?
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986: [20:02:38] <Stomach> its easy shellbackpacific :)
987: [20:04:13] <shellbackpacific> score thanks
988: [20:04:40] <Stomach> although if you are developing on windows and then need to deploy to unix, make sure that your table names respect case
989: [20:05:05] <shellbackpacific> not an issue there :)
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999: [21:12:18] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: was looking through some books lasst night, and pretty much every one you had read, ahaha
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1004: [21:14:58] <Stomach> lol
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1007: [21:15:09] <Stomach> I still haven't added all of them yet
1008: [21:15:14] <Stomach> its hard to remember
1009: [21:15:24] <Ryan-Toast> I know what you mean.
1010: [21:15:44] <Ryan-Toast> I never remember the titles of books I read when I go into a binge reading month
1011: [21:16:52] <Stomach> what were you looking at ?
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1013: [21:17:25] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I started Gardens of the Moon.
1014: [21:17:30] <Ryan-Toast> the 10 book series.
1015: [21:17:42] <Ryan-Toast> Malazan Book of the Fallen
1016: [21:17:46] <Stomach> oh that is an epic series
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1018: [21:18:03] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
1019: [21:18:15] <Stomach> I just read the start of the prequels, forge of darkness
1020: [21:18:23] <Kingy> morning ya'll
1021: [21:18:33] <Stomach> howdy
1022: [21:19:02] <Kingy> IT broke my VPN connection into the office in the weekend
1023: [21:19:11] <Kingy> won't be doing much working from home today lol
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1028: [21:25:31] <Ryan-Toast> My dad just sent eme a website proposal that he wants done by June 9th, for free.
1029: [21:25:33] <Ryan-Toast> Sigh.
1030: [21:25:35] <Ryan-Toast> Get fucked.
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1033: [21:27:22] <irogue_> om nom nom mcds breakfast
1034: [21:27:22] * Stomcch is now known as Stomach
1035: [21:27:35] <irogue_> Ryan-Toast: he did, thats why you're here
1036: [21:27:36] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: Massive mcMuffin?
1037: [21:27:45] <irogue_> Ryan-Toast: hell yes
1038: [21:27:49] <irogue_> with large hot chocolate
1039: [21:27:54] <Kingy> Don't ya hate that Ryan-Toast. "XYZ needs a website, you can do it for them right?"
1040: [21:27:57] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: awww yiss. Favorite breakfast mcdonalds food
1041: [21:28:14] <Ryan-Toast> Kingy: It’s literally a facebook clone for old people.
1042: [21:28:24] <Ryan-Toast> 2 WEEKS LOL, PLENTY OF TIME
1043: [21:28:27] <Kingy> lolol
1044: [21:28:44] <Ryan-Toast> DO IT FOR FREE AND I’LL CUT YOU IN ON THE PROFIT
1045: [21:28:49] <irogue_> Ryan-Toast: just install some random opensource portal software and call it done
1046: [21:28:49] <Kingy> heres an idea, why don't you use something that is already what you want... facebook
1047: [21:29:33] <Ryan-Toast> I’m so tempted to say sure, and send him a quote.
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1049: [21:29:44] <Stomach> $40k + 10k travel expenses plox
1050: [21:30:04] <Ryan-Toast> + $20,000 Massive mcMuffin allowances
1051: [21:30:45] <Kingy> "I need to travel overseas to suss out the market"
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1053: [21:32:11] <Ryan-Toast> I think my metabolism is running out. NOOOOOOO
1054: [21:32:54] <irogue_> Kingy: nah, just Tauranga
1055: [21:33:16] <irogue_> basically a huge retirement village
1056: [21:33:22] <Ryan-Toast> lol
1057: [21:33:32] <Kingy> irogue_: yeah my grandparents live there haha
1058: [21:33:43] <Ryan-Toast> Have Winston as a testimonial = printing money from grey power.
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1060: [21:36:07] <irogue_> laying in bed this morning, all the aucklanders on my twitter complaining about it being -1C
1061: [21:36:39] <irogue_> thinking to myself "is that cold?", check Hamilton, -5C
1062: [21:38:24] <irogue_> realise that these people couldnt handle living an 90 minutes south let alone south island or something
1063: [21:39:20] <Ryan-Toast> irogue_: Yeah, but that’s Hamilton.
1064: [21:39:42] <Ryan-Toast> It could be perfect weateher year round and I wouldn’t want to live there.
1065: [21:39:46] <irogue_> lol
1066: [21:41:31] <Stomach> if I have a tab called Title and a Field called Title, is there a way to only remove the tab, not the field?
1067: [21:42:17] <unclecheese> yes
1068: [21:42:39] <unclecheese> the second parameter of removeByName is $dataFieldOnly
1069: [21:42:59] <Stomach> yes, if its true then only the field will be removed, and if its false both will be removed
1070: [21:43:04] <Colin[pi]-2> morning all
1071: [21:43:07] <Stomach> I need the third option
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1074: [21:48:00] <Stomach> was it -1 today? I thought it was the right temperature for the first time this year :D and no humidity oh yeaaah
1075: [21:48:39] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Motorbiking in the morning is currently not enjoyable.
1076: [21:49:40] <Stomach> take the bus :P
1077: [21:49:52] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Ummmm, no ty
1078: [21:50:09] <Stomach> the bus is awesome, I talk to people and they get annoyed
1079: [21:50:30] <Colin[pi]> I always end up with some giant fat neckbeard sitting next to me
1080: [21:50:40] <Ryan-Toast> If I take the bus, I have to walk ten minutes to the NXP which is how long it takes me to ride over the shore to work.
1081: [21:50:54] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Are you a pretty lady, Colin?
1082: [21:51:03] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: sometimes..
1083: [21:51:12] <Colin[pi]> "m'lady"
1084: [21:51:16] <Colin[pi]> *tips fedora*
1085: [21:54:41] <Colin[pi]> either I get a fat guy, or no one at all... I will often have the last free seat on the bus next to me.. sometimes people stand
1086: [21:54:48] <Colin[pi]> I'm like "WHAT AM I THAT HIDEOUS??!"
1087: [21:54:50] <Stomach> yeah that happens to me too
1088: [21:54:57] <Stomach> its weird
1089: [21:54:59] <Stomach> must be the beard
1090: [21:55:05] <Colin[pi]> I don't have one!
1091: [21:55:10] <Stomach> oh, ruts
1092: [21:55:21] <Colin[pi]> I must give off a creepy vibe
1093: [21:55:26] <Stomach> I get to blame the beard :D
1094: [21:56:59] <irogue_> Stomach: you a jafa?
1095: [21:57:06] <Stomach> sure am
1096: [21:57:09] <Stomach> now :(
1097: [21:57:24] <irogue_> Stomach: we should lunch sometime
1098: [21:57:53] <Stomach> that sounds like a good idea
1099: [21:58:26] <Stomach> I'm just down the road from you
1100: [21:58:38] <irogue_> oh yeah, where at?
1101: [21:58:46] <Stomach> canterbury arcade on high street
1102: [21:59:07] <irogue_> oh yeah, very close
1103: [21:59:35] <Stomach> I need a water pistol for when I walk past SS at night time and have had a bad day with the framework :D
1104: [21:59:39] <irogue_> hahaha
1105: [21:59:54] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Happens to me, but I think mainly because I wear a big jackeet and have headphones on, and look menacing.
1106: [22:00:48] <Ryan-Toast> and stab people if they try to sit down
1107: [22:00:54] <Stomach> that'll do it
1108: [22:01:11] <Ryan-Toast> No-one appreciates a good stabbing anymore.
1109: [22:01:12] <Stomach> I always try to sit next to stupid women with their bag on the seat, even if there are heaps of other free seats
1110: [22:01:16] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: mm you might be right about the headphones, I used to ride the bus with Sennheisers on
1111: [22:01:17] <Stomach> first world anarchy!
1112: [22:01:28] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Nice choice of headgear, aman.
1113: [22:01:34] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: lol that pisses me off to no end
1114: [22:01:46] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: such awesome sauce!
1115: [22:02:45] <Stomach> what do you have colin? I have some 558s and love them
1116: [22:03:14] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: http://i.imgur.com/06G0479.jpg
1117: [22:04:25] <irogue_> should totally do a weekly SS community lunch for all those working in the cbd
1118: [22:04:26] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: I just had 202s, they're broken now :( need new ones
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1120: [22:04:44] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: hit up Cam about it
1121: [22:05:09] <Stomach> I'd be happy to come and talk shit and eat my sandiwch
1122: [22:05:35] <Ryan-Toast> Isn’t Cam in Wellington?
1123: [22:05:39] <irogue_> yup
1124: [22:05:51] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: 2 people Auckland lunch, aww yiss.
1125: [22:05:54] <irogue_> i'll mention it to him, but don't want it to be too "official", just SS devs hangin' out
1126: [22:06:44] <Stomach> yeah, it doesn't need to be official at all
1127: [22:06:57] <Stomach> then we can't be exclusive and not invite Ryan-Toast
1128: [22:07:37] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I’ll be watching from outside
1129: [22:07:56] <Stomach> hahaha :D
1130: [22:07:57] <Ryan-Toast> Always wwatching
1131: [22:09:56] <Stomach> I guess thats the bonus of being tall
1132: [22:10:00] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: ah k, informal, nice
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1134: [22:11:39] <Ryan-Toast> Anyone use the paypal payment module?|
1135: [22:11:42] <Stomach> yep
1136: [22:11:48] <Ryan-Toast> Work alright?
1137: [22:11:57] <Stomach> nope
1138: [22:12:02] <Ryan-Toast> lol
1139: [22:12:07] <Ryan-Toast> fuck
1140: [22:12:12] <Ryan-Toast> do not want to roll my own
1141: [22:12:20] <Stomach> nah you can use it
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1143: [22:12:36] <Stomach> but it needs a bit of editing if you are passing through more than one item
1144: [22:12:39] <Ryan-Toast> Do you know if rit supports annual payments?
1145: [22:12:47] <Stomach> nope
1146: [22:13:09] <Stomach> if you did add that though it would be good, i have a project coming up that needs subscriptions
1147: [22:13:21] <Ryan-Toast> Any other payment solution offer annual payments that I dobn’t have to make myself?
1148: [22:13:28] <Ryan-Toast> I am a lazy man.
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1150: [22:14:22] <irogue_> module-wise, always use silverstripe-omnipay
1151: [22:14:39] <Stomach> unless you are using swipestripe :\
1152: [22:14:53] <irogue_> yep. although i was discussing that with frank yesterday
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1154: [22:15:34] <Stomach> I really need to get off my ass and backport all of our stuff into the main swipestripe repo
1155: [22:16:43] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Do you work on Swipestripe?
1156: [22:17:05] <Stomach> yeah, we use it as our base for ecommerce sites
1157: [22:17:23] <Ryan-Toast> Do you have a demo of the backend? Want to have a quick look at it’s hieracy.
1158: [22:17:25] <Stomach> I'm not on the contributions team or anything though
1159: [22:17:41] <Stomach> http://demo.swipestripe.com/
1160: [22:18:08] <Ryan-Toast> Do you know what the login dets are?
1161: [22:18:14] <Stomach> admin/password i think
1162: [22:18:21] <Ryan-Toast> narp
1163: [22:18:26] <Ryan-Toast> I’ll try demo
1164: [22:18:35] <Ryan-Toast> oh, it was.
1165: [22:18:38] <Ryan-Toast> just didn;t redirect
1166: [22:19:10] <LimRes> Hey Stomach :) Is swipestripe stable?
1167: [22:19:18] <Stomach> Hey Matt
1168: [22:19:26] <Stomach> yeah its fairly stable
1169: [22:19:42] <Stomach> although there are a few gotchas (as with anything prebaked)
1170: [22:19:49] <LimRes> Looking for a good SS ecom
1171: [22:19:55] <LimRes> yeah I just need a good headstart
1172: [22:20:31] <Stomach> I would use swipestripe over the other ones any day - but I've have really bad experiences with the sunnysideup modules so I'm quite biased
1173: [22:21:17] <LimRes> I tried Nicolaas one ages ago too and had no luck
1174: [22:21:20] <irogue_> Stomach: frank was talking about making a bit of a 'working group' for swipestripe since he doesn't have enough time to do much on it anymore
1175: [22:21:57] <Stomach> and thus haven
1176: [22:22:01] <Stomach> 't used the burnbright ones
1177: [22:22:14] <LimRes> burnbright?
1178: [22:23:29] <irogue_> LimRes: burnbright and sunnysideup both made forks of the original silverstripe-developed ecommerce module (which was extremely half-arsed as made for one very basic implementation)
1179: [22:23:40] <LimRes> ah ok
1180: [22:23:42] <irogue_> as they both derived from silverstripe-ecommerce, they were both bad :P
1181: [22:23:52] <LimRes> are either working with 3.1?
1182: [22:24:03] <irogue_> then frank made swipestripe from scratch instead of basing it on silverstripe-ecommerce
1183: [22:24:13] <LimRes> swipestripe I mean is that 3.1 compat?
1184: [22:24:14] <irogue_> and then he got hired by silverstripe :P
1185: [22:24:19] <LimRes> demo is not on 3
1186: [22:24:20] <Colin[pi]> mm I recently finished a site based on ss-shop and it was... well.. interesting
1187: [22:24:26] <Stomach> swipestripe is 3.1 :)
1188: [22:24:30] <LimRes> cool
1189: [22:24:39] <LimRes> good timing to drop in just then :)
1190: [22:24:44] <LimRes> but I came to beg assistance
1191: [22:24:50] <LimRes> I have not used uploadfield in frontend
1192: [22:24:51] <irogue_> LimRes: http://ss3.swipestripe.com/
1193: [22:24:51] <unsignedint> yeah ss-shop is crap. swipestripe is the best ecommerce available for silverstripe
1194: [22:25:05] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: use FileField
1195: [22:25:10] <Stomach> irogue_ - yeah I'd be interested in getting involved with a working group, would give more motivation to do stuff too
1196: [22:25:29] <Stomach> there are better implementations for ecommerce out there, but they are proprietry
1197: [22:25:31] <Stomach> :\
1198: [22:25:40] <LimRes> anyone know why I'd get a DataObject::get_by_id passed a non-numeric ID #field
1199: [22:25:51] <LimRes> when using UploadField in frontend?
1200: [22:25:58] <unsignedint> hey does anyone know how to "clean up" orphaned Image objects and delete the files they are referencing on disk?
1201: [22:26:10] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: Use FileField
1202: [22:26:12] <LimRes> tried $ImageUpload = new UploadField('FIFPreview','Upload Photo of FIF');
1203: [22:26:12] <unsignedint> or rather, is there an automated way
1204: [22:26:34] <LimRes> and $ImageUpload = new UploadField('FIFPreview','Upload Photo of FIF','$farm->FIFPreview);
1205: [22:26:37] * muskie9 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
1206: [22:27:07] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: <———————————————————————————————————————— Use FileField
1207: [22:27:27] <Stomach> I don't think hes listening Ryan-Toast :P
1208: [22:27:43] <Ryan-Toast> I’m Mr Meeseeks LOOK AT ME!
1209: [22:28:31] <LimRes> Ok trying that thanks Ryan-Toast
1210: [22:28:41] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: :)
1211: [22:28:41] <Stomach> unsignedint - isnt there a dev task for that?
1212: [22:28:55] <LimRes> oops sorry, must zoom text :)
1213: [22:29:02] <LimRes> I must be going deaf
1214: [22:29:09] <LimRes> there I turned it up
1215: [22:30:27] <LimRes> too bad, though, UploadField is so nice and pretty.
1216: [22:30:35] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: yarp :)
1217: [22:31:01] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: Pretty sure it’s only for the cms though.
1218: [22:31:01] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: is UploadField currently broken?
1219: [22:31:11] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: No, just not good for the frontend
1220: [22:31:14] <Colin[pi]> hmm
1221: [22:31:21] <Colin[pi]> surely can't be that hard to fix though?
1222: [22:31:40] <Colin[pi]> not that I'm volunteering.. ^_^
1223: [22:32:09] <Stomach> the uploadfield has been in a state of flux for the past couple of months, lots of work has been going on with it
1224: [22:32:19] <Stomach> and lots of bugs :\
1225: [22:32:25] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: :\ is it supposed to be CMS only though?
1226: [22:32:36] <Stomach> nope
1227: [22:32:40] * Ryan-Toast has never had a bug with UploadField
1228: [22:32:47] <LimRes> It renders beautifully in front end
1229: [22:32:54] <LimRes> just doesn't work
1230: [22:33:01] <Colin[pi]> lol
1231: [22:33:04] <Colin[pi]> and the cause..?
1232: [22:33:13] <Colin[pi]> missing something the cms provides?
1233: [22:33:28] <LimRes> ,missing the id
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1235: [22:33:32] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I don’t trust frontend people with UploadField
1236: [22:33:34] <LimRes> of the object that has the has_one
1237: [22:34:12] <LimRes> looks like it is trying to get the object but failing on the get_by_id
1238: [22:34:20] <LimRes> it new what class it was looking for
1239: [22:34:25] <LimRes> just not its id
1240: [22:34:33] <LimRes> *knew
1241: [22:34:52] <irogue_> you also have to be very careful with permissions for uploadfield
1242: [22:35:23] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: in case the frontend folks can fuck around with assets they shouldn't?
1243: [22:35:31] <irogue_> yep
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1245: [22:35:35] <Colin[pi]> hmm
1246: [22:35:42] <irogue_> or users
1247: [22:35:48] <LimRes> this is for an internal net, and the frontend only displayed the "From Computer" not the 'existing files'
1248: [22:35:49] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: that’s why I don’t use it.
1249: [22:35:54] <LimRes> so it looks like it is close to being ready
1250: [22:35:58] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Not many use cases where you would wwant to use it.
1251: [22:36:02] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: mm makes sense
1252: [22:36:19] <Stomach> LimRes - can you post the code the form you are using to instantiate it on a paste site somewhere?
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1254: [22:37:33] <LimRes> Stomach : http://pastebin.com/idz93m4y
1255: [22:37:53] <LimRes> the main pain is you don't get an thumbnail out-of-the-box
1256: [22:38:00] <LimRes> gotta add a literal field
1257: [22:38:03] <LimRes> now
1258: [22:38:43] <Ryan-Toast> LimRes: I just made a thumbnail method.
1259: [22:40:14] <Stomach> yeah that looks right Matt, must be a bug somewhere deeper :\
1260: [22:40:25] <LimRes> I reckon
1261: [22:41:14] <LimRes> anyway it's due in an hour better rock :)
1262: [22:41:16] <LimRes> thanks ya;;
1263: [22:41:18] <LimRes> yall
1264: [22:41:21] <Stomach> toodles
1265: [22:42:39] <Colin[pi]> fuck, cold when I wake up, put on jumper, sun streams through window, now hot
1266: [22:42:47] <Colin[pi]> oh wow I sound like simon_w
1267: [22:43:18] <LimRes> and stay warm all you in the south island
1268: [22:43:25] <LimRes> looks pretty chilly down there :P
1269: [22:44:28] <Stomach> Colin[pi] - he has infected you already!
1270: [22:44:34] <Colin[pi]> :o
1271: [22:47:56] <Colin[pi]> hmm suggestions for what I can write about on my blog this month?
1272: [22:48:35] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: how awesome the new guy at SS Akl is?
1273: [22:48:53] <Colin[pi]> but I don't know how awesome he is! DO TELL
1274: [22:49:23] * lerni quit ()
1275: [22:50:23] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: SUPER AWESOME
1276: [22:50:30] <Colin[pi]> ermahgerd!
1277: [22:53:11] <micmania1> You Ausies/Kiwis moaning about the weather is very amusing.
1278: [22:53:21] <Stomach> where are you from micmania1?
1279: [22:53:31] <irogue_> spotify mood playlists are my life these days
1280: [22:53:37] <micmania1> Newcaslte, England
1281: [22:53:43] <Colin[pi]> micmania1: lol I know, our winter is nothing compared to some places
1282: [22:53:46] <micmania1> Newcastle* even
1283: [22:54:02] <irogue_> england: the opposite of southern california
1284: [22:54:03] <micmania1> Your winter is shorts and t-shirt weather.
1285: [22:54:11] <Colin[pi]> micmania1: not in Canberra it's not :P
1286: [22:54:18] <Stomach> micmania1 - not down south it isnt
1287: [22:54:32] <Stomach> up here it is
1288: [22:54:36] <micmania1> oh yeah, maybe not down south lol
1289: [22:54:37] <irogue_> north island of NZ hardly varies between summer and winter, lol
1290: [22:54:55] <Colin[pi]> micmania1: here in Canberra it's -5 - 13 or so in winter
1291: [22:55:05] <Colin[pi]> but it summer it gets up to mid-30's
1292: [22:55:26] <Stomach> flag that :S
1293: [22:55:40] <irogue_> http://weather.niwa.co.nz/Auckland
1294: [22:56:53] <micmania1> 14C tomorrow?!
1295: [22:57:01] <micmania1> it was 13C here today
1296: [22:57:08] <micmania1> And i was too hot haha
1297: [22:58:06] <irogue_> this is winter :P
1298: [22:58:17] <ss23> So SS may have had issues, but not like https://www.portcullis-security.com/security-research-and-downloads/security-advisories/cve-2014-3445/
1299: [22:58:23] <irogue_> the difference between summer and winter, during daytime, is like 10C
1300: [22:58:35] * Kingy is now known as Kingy[a]
1301: [22:58:40] <Stomach> "Tried, tested and proven"
1302: [22:59:15] <irogue_> ss23: same developer as Tenda router firmware?
1303: [23:00:03] <Colin[pi]> ss23: wow.. that's um... wow
1304: [23:00:45] <Stomach> why would you ever give out a key like that in any situation :S
1305: [23:00:48] * Kingy[a] is now known as Kingy
1306: [23:00:55] <Colin[pi]> beyond stupid
1307: [23:00:59] <ss23> irogue_: XD
1308: [23:01:37] <micmania1> Since 1999? Their website looks like 1999.
1309: [23:01:51] * Kingy is now known as Kingy[a]
1310: [23:02:13] <Stomach> does anyone here know of any SS shops in Netherlands?
1311: [23:02:18] * LimRes quit (Quit: Page closed)
1312: [23:02:26] <micmania1> http://www.handsomeweb.com/ - is this them?
1313: [23:03:01] <irogue_> Stomach: check the dev network?
1314: [23:03:08] <Stomach> ah yes, good idea
1315: [23:03:39] <irogue_> 27 of them! http://www.silverstripe.org/silverstripe-developer-network/?BrowseByCountry=Netherlands
1316: [23:04:00] <Stomach> awesome, time to get emailing
1317: [23:06:55] * muskie9 quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
1318: [23:08:08] <Stomach> ugh, classnames are getting very long 'InternationalSolrSearchPageExtension'
1319: [23:08:48] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: can't be as bad as some I've seen in Java
1320: [23:09:36] <jordanmk> hey guys
1321: [23:09:45] <jordanmk> any recommendations on the best way to have a different header shown on the Home page only?
1322: [23:09:45] <Stomach> hiya
1323: [23:09:46] <irogue_> oh god
1324: [23:09:57] * irogue_ hunts out the one from the ss flowdock yesterday
1325: [23:10:19] <irogue_> https://github.com/irestful/ConcreteMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriterias/blob/master/ConcreteMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriterias/Infrastructure/Adapters/ConcreteMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaAdapter.php
1326: [23:10:21] <jordanmk> i.e. my base Page.ss has a Header.ss include, and i'm just trying to figure out the best way to have a different header included on just the Home page
1327: [23:10:27] <Colin[pi]> irogue: wow
1328: [23:10:28] <Stomach> jordanmk - <% if $ClassName='HomePage' %>homepage<% else %>normal<% end_if %>
1329: [23:10:56] <Stomach> look at that namespace o_O
1330: [23:10:59] <jordanmk> cheers Stomach
1331: [23:11:11] <Stomach> public function convertMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaToMultipleQueueMessageRetrieverCriteria :S
1332: [23:11:13] <Stomach> holy moly
1333: [23:11:24] <Colin[pi]> I threw up a little in my mouth
1334: [23:11:30] <ss23> throw newCannotConvertMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaToMultipleQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaException
1335: [23:11:34] <ss23> throw new CannotConvertMultipleHashMapQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaToMultipleQueueMessageRetrieverCriteriaException
1336: [23:12:07] <Colin[pi]> Even though the sound of it Is something quite atrocious, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
1337: [23:12:13] <irogue_> as i said then, it looks like a Java dev moved to PHP
1338: [23:16:37] * simon_w has joined #silverstripe
1339: [23:19:59] * Stomach runs away
1340: [23:22:59] * simon_w is just that scary
1341: [23:23:17] <irogue_> quite :P
1342: [23:24:06] * auto9 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1343: [23:24:08] <irogue_> about once per second i'm getting a Mail.app notification telling me i have forty-something new emails
1344: [23:24:12] <irogue_> HALP I'M BEING SPAMMED
1345: [23:24:44] <Colin[pi]> lol that sucks
1346: [23:24:49] <Stomach> read the emails, slacker
1347: [23:25:26] <Colin[pi]> god email sucks so hard, I wish it would just diaf
1348: [23:25:38] <simon_w> Current unread email count: 0
1349: [23:25:39] <simon_w> Suckers!
1350: [23:25:42] <Colin[pi]> I have a gmail account full of email cause I couldnt be arsed to sort it out
1351: [23:27:34] <Stomach> have you started your new job yet simon_w?
1352: [23:27:45] <simon_w> Nope
1353: [23:31:01] * sminnee has joined #silverstripe
1354: [23:31:25] <simon_w> Start sometime in the week starting 9/6
1355: [23:31:41] <Stomach> why such a long wait :S
1356: [23:32:31] <simon_w> Lead developer's wife just gave birth
1357: [23:32:37] <simon_w> Need to wait for him to get back
1358: [23:32:46] <Stomach> what a slacker
1359: [23:32:49] <Colin[pi]> pfft
1360: [23:34:21] <simon_w> Ooh, SiteHost now has IPv6 and SSD-based VPSs
1361: [23:34:59] <irogue_> Stomach: they're all new emails
1362: [23:35:11] <irogue_> someone broke something and it's spamming out SS error emails at about one per second
1363: [23:35:25] <ss23> Yeah simon_w :D
1364: [23:35:31] <ss23> idgaf about "SSD based VPS"
1365: [23:35:33] <ss23> but IPv6 is <3 <3 <3
1366: [23:35:35] <irogue_> simon_w: nah, just take his job while he's away
1367: [23:35:46] <simon_w> ss23, you still banned though? :p
1368: [23:36:01] <ss23> Technically I didn't get a ban...
1369: [23:36:09] <ss23> I just got told that the situation was unacceptable and to move my shit away
1370: [23:36:15] <ss23> Linux irc 2.6.32-042stab085.20 #1 SMP Fri Mar 21 19:07:05 MSK 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
1371: [23:36:18] <ss23> wait
1372: [23:36:21] <ss23> irc
1373: [23:36:23] <ss23> fuck
1374: [23:36:27] <ss23> I don't IRC from my SiteHost box
1375: [23:36:49] <simon_w> Okay, time to move ss-log
1376: [23:37:13] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
1377: [23:38:44] * muskie9 quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
1378: [23:38:59] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
1379: [23:42:12] * ss-log has joined #silverstripe
1380: [23:42:53] <Colin[pi]> ss23: so it learned your searching habits
1381: [23:42:56] <Colin[pi]> ;)
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1383: [23:44:34] <ss23> aw snaap
1384: [23:44:37] <ss23> please I use tor for that.
1385: [23:45:03] * muskie9 has joined #silverstripe
1386: [23:45:21] <ss23> Hey simon_w, you have a sitehost box, right?
1387: [23:45:27] <simon_w> Yes
1388: [23:45:33] <ss23> simon_w: Which one?
1389: [23:45:45] <ss23> and can I get you to check something for me in a second?
1390: [23:45:48] <irogue_> i just realised i no longer have any VPSes but AWS
1391: [23:45:49] <simon_w> What do you mean?
1392: [23:45:56] <ss23> simon_w: I mean, IP/address of it
1393: [23:46:02] <simon_w> ss23, 2403:7000:8000:700::a
1394: [23:46:03] <irogue_> tho i do have a dedicated box at LeaseWeb NL
1395: [23:46:09] <ss23> simon_w: IPv4 too? :D
1396: [23:46:18] <simon_w> dig logs.simon.geek.nz A
1397: [23:46:22] <ss23> ty <3
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1399: [23:46:40] * muskie9_ has joined #silverstripe
1400: [23:47:27] <simon_w> May 28 09:47:06 logbot access.log: logs.simon.geek.nz:80 2403:7000:8000:700::a - - [28/May/2014:11:47:05 +1200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 160246 "-" "curl/7.26.0"
1401: [23:47:27] <simon_w> Aww yeah, v6 :D
1402: [23:48:04] <ss23> simon_w: Can you check what sitehost says your rdns is set to?
1403: [23:48:13] <irogue_> omg i require caffeine
1404: [23:48:40] <simon_w> Which IP?
1405: [23:48:45] <ss23> simon_w: 120.138.30.48
1406: [23:48:51] <simon_w> logs.simon.geek.nz
1407: [23:48:53] <ss23> sweet
1408: [23:49:09] <ss23> I was just messing with the controlpanel and it wasn't giving an access denied error, so wasn't sure if it was actually updating the address or not
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1410: [23:56:09] <spronk> ss23: what the fuck did you do to get yourself banned?
1411: [23:56:35] <ss23> I didn't do anything, I just got DDoS'd
1412: [23:56:45] <ss23> Was a while ago now, but was big enough to fuck up all of sitehost
1413: [23:56:58] <spronk> so they banned you? :/
1414: [23:57:05] <ss23> Not exactly
1415: [23:57:30] <ss23> It was basically like "We really can't have our entire business taken down because you fucked osmeone off, can you move all your shit off our servers, please."
1416: [23:57:36] <ss23> the first time they were just like "ehhhh stop annoying people"
1417: [23:57:42] <ss23> but after it kept happening they told me to move, yeah
1418: [23:57:47] <ss23> I mean, I think it's acceptable
1419: [23:58:10] * sminnee quit (Quit: sminnee)
1420: [23:58:39] <spronk> o_O
1421: [23:58:47] <spronk> wtf did you do to get ddos'd?
1422: [23:59:28] <ss23> I never figured out for *sure*, but at the time, I was cracking some software people were using to cheat at runescape
1423: [23:59:49] <ss23> I figure someone got mad I was cheating them out of their illegally gained $5

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