#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 16 May 2014

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1: [00:06:10] <Colin[pi]> hey I have lunch time beer and horse racing today... in fact, forget the horse racing
2: [00:07:06] * zippy__ has corned beef sammies with peri peri mayo, nom
3: [00:07:47] <ss23> ew
4: [00:07:57] <ss23> I'll stick to my bigmac!
5: [00:08:42] <Colin[pi]> how the heck did I miss this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2Rx8YlSWY
6: [00:09:26] * simon_w has whatever he can find in the kitchen
7: [00:10:18] <simon_w> Well, that's one benefit of the config API
8: [00:10:18] <simon_w> https://gist.github.com/simonwelsh/2302324cb00b2b523322
9: [00:12:04] <ss23> lol
10: [00:12:54] <simon_w> Oops, forgot to enforce that ShopID is unique
11: [00:13:03] <simon_w> I guess I'll add an index through YAML too!
12: [00:13:04] <UncleCheese_> yay! simon_w has come around
13: [00:13:30] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, YAML still sucks :p
14: [00:13:32] <Colin[pi]> hell is freezing over
15: [00:13:41] <antmas> Colin[pi]: It looks neat, but it's soooooo cheesy
16: [00:13:42] <simon_w> And this is blatant abuse of the system
17: [00:13:43] <UncleCheese_> oh, you're complain is syntactical
18: [00:13:52] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah it is, but hey... tits
19: [00:13:57] <UncleCheese_> would you be happy with a JSON config layer, simon_w ?
20: [00:14:03] <simon_w> Nope
21: [00:14:05] <Colin[pi]> antmas: but still, not bad for a fan film
22: [00:14:07] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Fuck I hate when fight scenes have leather suits.
23: [00:14:12] <UncleCheese_> would you be happy with an XML config layer, simon_w ?
24: [00:14:15] <simon_w> Nope
25: [00:14:19] <antmas> Colin[pi]: oh yeah
26: [00:14:19] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: wat? even the matrix?
27: [00:14:22] <UncleCheese_> hmm
28: [00:14:25] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: yes.
29: [00:14:26] <UncleCheese_> i think simon_w doesn't know how to be happy
30: [00:14:27] <Ryan-Toast> so dumb.
31: [00:14:28] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: :o
32: [00:14:35] <simon_w> I want a layer that's easy for people to write
33: [00:14:41] <UncleCheese_> ahh, like a GUI
34: [00:14:51] <simon_w> Have you tried writing a GUI?
35: [00:14:54] <Colin[pi]> lol
36: [00:14:54] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Would ebe so restrictive.
37: [00:15:00] <simon_w> If you're actually writing it, you're doing it wrong :p
38: [00:15:07] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: it would yes
39: [00:15:14] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: looks cool, but not practical!
40: [00:15:17] <UncleCheese_> so, ok, i'm listening
41: [00:15:22] <UncleCheese_> what would be easy to write, simon_w ?
42: [00:15:23] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Doesn’t look cool either.
43: [00:15:28] <irogue_> 03:05 <+ss23> I'll stick to my bigmac!
44: [00:15:29] <irogue_> eww
45: [00:15:31] <simon_w> No idea
46: [00:15:32] <irogue_> need more DQP
47: [00:15:34] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I like it :D
48: [00:15:36] <UncleCheese_> i need to start listening to the community
49: [00:15:38] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Looks like they took a wrong turn to the BDSM convention
50: [00:15:43] <UncleCheese_> it will be an important part of my job
51: [00:15:51] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: lol
52: [00:16:03] <simon_w> I guess I should reply to that email from Ingo soon
53: [00:16:16] <ss23> community demands more money for ss employees named stephen
54: [00:16:26] <Stomach> steven ?
55: [00:16:46] <Colin[pi]> phteven?
56: [00:17:03] <simon_w> "community demands ss employees named stephen write some docs" is more realistic
57: [00:17:18] <Colin[pi]> OH SNAP
58: [00:17:38] <ss23> :(
59: [00:18:35] <Colin[pi]> hmm say I have a siteconfig extension that I want to use to define two static vars of another class, without modifying the other class, where's the best place to put the code to set the static vars?
60: [00:19:00] <Stomach> id use the json gui config for that
61: [00:20:26] <zippy__> json gui config?
62: [00:20:34] <Colin[pi]> ^
63: [00:26:32] <UncleCheese_> hahahahaha
64: [00:26:36] <UncleCheese_> yes!
65: [00:27:03] <Stomach> its basically an xml backed json graphic user interface
66: [00:27:05] <Stomach> its cutting edge
67: [00:27:10] <simon_w> Bleugh, haggling over pay via a third party
68: [00:27:58] <simon_w> Also, why do I keep getting calls just after starting on another hard lolly
69: [00:28:21] <antmas> 'lolly'
70: [00:28:29] <ss23> He just doesn't want to say 'Hard Candy'
71: [00:28:35] <antmas> hahahah
72: [00:28:38] <ss23> Why not go with the "Give me this much money. If you say no, the offer is declined"
73: [00:28:43] <ss23> Almost gurantee they'll give you it, right
74: [00:28:55] <ss23> Unless they suspect you won't actually turn it down, of course, but then you really do turn it down, so you win
75: [00:28:57] <UncleCheese_> all lollies are hard
76: [00:29:00] <UncleCheese_> … to stop eating
77: [00:29:03] <ss23> lol
78: [00:29:09] <ss23> UncleCheese_: That's a sign you haven't eaten as much candy as me
79: [00:29:15] <antmas> except mint leaves
80: [00:29:22] <ss23> Takes less than 250 grams of marshmallows to make you want to stop eating
81: [00:29:22] <DesignerX> hi, how to get the "Link" shortcode working in HTMLArea on a DO ? this is what I have (doesnt work) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/96cfcbae0364411ea806
82: [00:29:24] <UncleCheese_> lollies will be my demise
83: [00:29:46] <hamror> hard candy is a fairly brutal movie
84: [00:30:18] <ss23> That's for sure
85: [00:30:32] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: tried a musk stick yet?
86: [00:30:41] <UncleCheese_> no
87: [00:30:43] <ss23> It's justified, but DAMN SHE IS RUTHLESS
88: [00:30:51] <hamror> i might have to watch it again
89: [00:30:59] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: heard people from your part of the world are like "WTF is this?" when trying a musk stick
90: [00:31:11] <ss23> wtf is a "musk stick"?
91: [00:31:13] <UncleCheese_> musk is an aussie thing, i know that much
92: [00:31:18] <antmas> dafuq is a musk stick?
93: [00:31:24] <ss23> Must be an Australian thing
94: [00:31:26] <Colin[pi]> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqs67j3qoa1qzgc80o1_500.jpg
95: [00:31:28] <ss23> Like a Golden Gaytime
96: [00:31:31] <Colin[pi]> ^ these
97: [00:31:37] <ss23> It's hard to have a gaytime on your own
98: [00:31:40] <hamror> musk stick sounds like a sugar and buck boil down
99: [00:31:41] <antmas> is that like aniseed or something?
100: [00:31:48] <Colin[pi]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_stick
101: [00:31:53] <ss23> looks like what we call "generic as fuck candy"
102: [00:31:54] <Colin[pi]> WP says popular in NZ :P
103: [00:32:11] <Stomach> we have them as "smokers"
104: [00:32:22] <simon_w> KBars?
105: [00:32:34] <antmas> http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/is-bin/intershop.static/WFS/TWL-B2C-Site/TWL-B2C/en_NZ/product/large/dc/66/94312829_l.jpg
106: [00:32:50] <simon_w> Ah, Space Man
107: [00:32:58] <simon_w> KBars are better :p
108: [00:32:59] <Colin[pi]> did you have these in NZ? http://images1.findery.com/1026498236365/4746751/488xN?1344559551
109: [00:33:09] <ss23> You know what's anoying? Smarties here are M&Ms, but not in the US!
110: [00:33:15] <ss23> Colin[pi]: hahaha
111: [00:33:17] <ss23> no
112: [00:33:26] <Colin[pi]> ss23: they're called "FADS" now :(
113: [00:33:27] <Colin[pi]> pussies
114: [00:33:43] <Stomach> Colin[pi] - we used to have http://www.shopenzed.com/img/?syscmd=picoverlay&picID=42661&text=&col=cc0000&angle=15&size=11&font=Verdana&flags=4&quality=90&loc=361&spacing=0&resizeTo=250
115: [00:33:48] <antmas> sour coke bottles ftw
116: [00:34:00] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: pretty much the same thing I think?
117: [00:34:04] <Stomach> yeah they are
118: [00:34:10] <Colin[pi]> antmas: sour coke bottles are the best
119: [00:34:30] <Colin[pi]> and those sour worm things, mm
120: [00:34:40] <antmas> pretty much anything sour
121: [00:34:48] <antmas> except TNTs
122: [00:34:51] <Colin[pi]> warheads?
123: [00:34:52] <antmas> they make my face cry
124: [00:35:03] <Stomach> tnts
125: [00:35:06] <UncleCheese_> does anyone know where {$this->class}.currentPage gets set?
126: [00:35:10] <UncleCheese_> in the cms?
127: [00:35:11] <Stomach> man i burnt my tongue off lots
128: [00:35:13] <Colin[pi]> my tongue just did that "tang!" thing from just thinking about it lol
129: [00:35:15] <UncleCheese_> session
130: [00:35:20] <antmas> Colin[pi]: haha
131: [00:35:22] <antmas> YES
132: [00:35:50] <antmas> I think I now need to go buy a $1 mixture
133: [00:36:15] <hamror> i got one the other day and it had 4 of those fucking hard white mints in it
134: [00:36:20] <hamror> which polluted the entire thing
135: [00:36:27] <hamror> should burn their dairy down
136: [00:36:37] <antmas> hamror: hahaha
137: [00:36:42] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, $this->class is set in Object->__construct
138: [00:36:50] <hamror> who puts hard mints in a mixed bag anyway
139: [00:36:58] <hamror> it's scandalous
140: [00:36:59] <UncleCheese_> just figured it out.. bug in 3.1.3!
141: [00:37:17] <antmas> THESE FUCKING THINGS
142: [00:37:18] <antmas> http://www.oldtimecandy.com/spearmint-leaves.htm
143: [00:37:22] <antmas> everytime
144: [00:37:27] <UncleCheese_> CMSAddFileController didn't set currentpage id in the session
145: [00:37:37] <UncleCheese_> but in 3.1.5 it's in getEditForm
146: [00:37:42] <simon_w> Oh man, those leaves were the only minty thing I didn't like
147: [00:38:00] <Colin[pi]> I liked those leaf things!
148: [00:38:15] <ss23> Mint always makes me think of toothpaste, so I hate it >.<
149: [00:39:06] <antmas> yeah you don't want to think of toothpaste when eating candy
150: [00:39:10] <antmas> also\
151: [00:39:16] <antmas> FarCry4 announced?
152: [00:39:31] <hamror> that's inevitable
153: [00:39:34] <Colin[pi]> nice segue lol
154: [00:39:47] <hamror> that's like saying season 874833 of southpark announced
155: [00:39:57] <hamror> just read the book the new wolfenstein game is inspired by
156: [00:40:03] <Stomach> the international 2014 prize pool is now over $5million USD
157: [00:40:05] <simon_w> Season 2 of Firefly announced?
158: [00:40:09] <Stomach> what the crap valve
159: [00:40:43] <antmas> I dunno
160: [00:40:47] <antmas> I really liked FC3
161: [00:41:01] <antmas> so was somehow suprised it got announced at this time, rather than say, E3
162: [00:41:02] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I have it but haven't run it yet :(
163: [00:41:17] <hamror> all 3 of our computers at home C2D over and over so none of us could finish FC3
164: [00:41:25] <hamror> :<
165: [00:41:39] <antmas> hamror: C2D when playing FC3?
166: [00:41:49] <hamror> after you get the knife back to the lady
167: [00:41:55] <hamror> for me
168: [00:41:56] <simon_w> Well, the place I didn't want to work for didn't want to take me on in a non-junior role
169: [00:41:57] <antmas> oh yeah that happened to me
170: [00:41:59] <simon_w> Screw that
171: [00:42:05] <Ryan-Toast> Has anyone ever made a form that you can duplicate fields to add multiple dataobjects at once?
172: [00:42:13] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: that sucks
173: [00:42:14] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, yup
174: [00:42:42] <simon_w> Colin[pi], old people and their ideas on what counts as experience are silly
175: [00:42:47] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Did you have a like a “Add another item” button that duplicated form fields to make unlimited ones?
176: [00:43:13] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, well, we've got a drop down that lets you pick between 1 and 10, but it used to be a button
177: [00:43:14] <ss23> $foo . '.' . $bar
178: [00:43:20] <ss23> .;'.'.'.'d.'d.d'.d'.d
179: [00:43:24] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: dat ajax
180: [00:43:25] <simon_w> Then people's sessions timed out on massive forms
181: [00:43:28] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Ah cool.
182: [00:43:35] <Ryan-Toast> I’ll gve mine a go, see how I go.
183: [00:43:51] <hamror> always use heredoc for string concats
184: [00:44:11] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, things to watch out for: changing the IDs of all the new things, reloading the data after validation failures
185: [00:44:28] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: validation errors are going to be the biggest fuckup.
186: [00:44:28] <ss23> 12:41:17 < hamror> all 3 of our computers at home C2D over and over so none of us could finish FC3
187: [00:44:32] <ss23> C2D?
188: [00:44:36] <hamror> crash to desktop
189: [00:44:49] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, we ended up going with FieldName[0] through [n] instead of just []
190: [00:44:58] <Colin[pi]> ss23: I was the same dude, I thought it was some sort of Call of Duty reference lol
191: [00:45:05] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Yeah, that’s what I though would be best.
192: [00:45:11] <ss23> oic
193: [00:45:15] <ss23> I thought people just used "Crashed"
194: [00:45:16] <ss23> but cool
195: [00:45:22] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Luckily there’re only two fields.
196: [00:45:29] <ss23> simon_w: ^.^
197: [00:45:30] <hamror> shrug, i picked it up from my grubby little gamer cousins
198: [00:45:35] <ss23> simon_w: ssau is hiring
199: [00:45:42] <ss23> wanna be a junior dev there? ^.^
200: [00:45:47] <simon_w> ss23, what rate? :p
201: [00:45:49] <Colin[pi]> ss23: rofl imagine simon_w working for ssau?
202: [00:45:57] <ss23> XD
203: [00:46:04] <simon_w> (Knowing SS, a tiny one)
204: [00:46:06] <ss23> simon_w: Sure they can get you $50k :)
205: [00:46:16] <Colin[pi]> that'll just cover his rent in Canberra
206: [00:46:18] <Colin[pi]> ;D
207: [00:46:31] <UncleCheese_> SSAU pays pretty well as i remember
208: [00:46:39] <simon_w> Colin[pi], offer I've got is $36k part time, and that'd cover rent :p
209: [00:46:39] <antmas> lol
210: [00:46:48] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: /sarcasm ;P
211: [00:46:54] <antmas> work just bought a R9 270x as a replacement GPU for a slimline computer
212: [00:47:03] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, that's probably because Melbourne is bloody expensive
213: [00:47:04] <Colin[pi]> antmas: nice
214: [00:47:13] <UncleCheese_> oh it is
215: [00:47:14] <antmas> Colin[pi]: it's as big as the whole case lol
216: [00:47:17] <antmas> fail buy
217: [00:47:18] <UncleCheese_> more than WGT?
218: [00:47:22] <simon_w> Yes
219: [00:47:24] <UncleCheese_> dollar is worth mroe, though
220: [00:47:30] <Colin[pi]> Melbourne is pricey yeah
221: [00:47:37] <simon_w> Barely
222: [00:47:44] <ss23> Hold up, Sydney > Melbourne, right?
223: [00:47:58] <ss23> cause I mean, we were paying $620/w for a 2bdrm place
224: [00:48:05] <ss23> That's an apartment, 1 bathroom, etc
225: [00:48:46] <antmas> ss23: wholey fuck
226: [00:48:47] <antmas> man
227: [00:48:51] <antmas> fuck living in Wellington
228: [00:48:58] <antmas> $620?
229: [00:48:58] <hamror> we pay 670 for 3 bedrooms, 2 living rooms, large double garage, large garden/yard
230: [00:49:00] <antmas> o.O
231: [00:49:07] <hamror> for the two of us
232: [00:49:13] <simon_w> antmas, fairly sure that's a Sydney price :p
233: [00:49:47] <antmas> simon_w: oh
234: [00:49:49] <antmas> still
235: [00:49:51] <antmas> :P
236: [00:50:01] <antmas> hamror: where?
237: [00:50:06] <hamror> north shore, auckland
238: [00:50:16] <hamror> wellington flat hunting is possibly one of worst experiences a modern person can go through
239: [00:50:18] <antmas> hamror: sounds about bight
240: [00:50:20] <hamror> that and 20% packet loss
241: [00:50:33] * joelpittet quit ()
242: [00:50:33] <antmas> right*
243: [00:51:17] <hamror> is there a way in chrome to force the Elements inspector open with JS and to select a particular node
244: [00:51:32] <antmas> I might buy this 270 off work
245: [00:51:34] <Colin[pi]> http://www.domain.com.au/content/files/apm/reports/APM-June-RentalReport-FINAL.pdf
246: [00:51:35] <antmas> $100?
247: [00:51:46] <Colin[pi]> ^ average rental price per capital in AU
248: [00:52:51] <UncleCheese_> holy fuck
249: [00:52:57] <UncleCheese_> houses are expensive here
250: [00:53:00] <UncleCheese_> i'm glad i'm not alone, though
251: [00:53:11] <ss23> 2:48:52 < antmas> fuck living in Wellington
252: [00:53:11] <ss23> 12:48:58 < antmas> $620?
253: [00:53:14] <ss23> In Sydney!
254: [00:53:18] <Colin[pi]> UC: see graph here also: http://www.homepriceguide.com.au/
255: [00:53:20] <UncleCheese_> 620 a WEEK?!
256: [00:53:25] <hamror> may i never live in wellington again
257: [00:53:30] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Yeah, or $670 in NZD
258: [00:53:31] <antmas> ss23: yeah I figured in the end :)
259: [00:53:39] <ss23> But that was 2 bedrooms
260: [00:53:42] <UncleCheese_> jesus fuck
261: [00:53:49] <antmas> hamror: I refuse to for anything less than 80k per year
262: [00:53:51] <hamror> got offered a 800 a day AUD contract in Sydney but i'm not sure if i want to move to australia
263: [00:54:08] <hamror> but money is tempting
264: [00:54:30] <UncleCheese_> 800 a day is only 200k a year
265: [00:54:34] <antmas> hamror: how long was that contract?
266: [00:54:40] <hamror> 6 months
267: [00:54:41] <antmas> UncleCheese_: only?
268: [00:54:44] <Colin[pi]> only lol
269: [00:54:47] <UncleCheese_> after taxes, it's not worth it
270: [00:54:48] <hamror> but there are heaps of contracts around like that
271: [00:55:07] <antmas> I can't deal with the idea of temp contracts
272: [00:55:13] <antmas> I prefer security
273: [00:55:24] <Colin[pi]> antmas: it's fine if you're young without too many commitments
274: [00:55:30] <hamror> i've been self employed 4 years, but i don't work on site very often
275: [00:55:31] <antmas> Colin[pi]: true
276: [00:55:52] <hamror> i think i'd only take an office job again if it was something like technical director or an appliance start up
277: [00:55:58] <ss23> Australia pwns the shit out of NZ if you care about money, but its a horrible plcae to live
278: [00:56:02] <antmas> what would the tax in AU be on 100k?
279: [00:56:26] <ss23> Country is fucked up, politics are retarded, internet situation is completely stupid, fucking hot
280: [00:56:27] <Colin[pi]> antmas: 45%? something like that
281: [00:56:30] <ss23> The main reason I left was the heat
282: [00:56:37] <antmas> 45%? daaaaaamn
283: [00:56:42] <UncleCheese_> 96k
284: [00:56:56] <hamror> i basically can't program above about 26-27C ambient
285: [00:57:07] <UncleCheese_> ss23: you prefer nz to au?
286: [00:57:07] <hamror> i just end up raging
287: [00:57:10] <antmas> I have no family there so it's a now for me unless 70k after tax
288: [00:57:21] <antmas> no*
289: [00:57:25] <pippy_> tony abott: durrr boat people
290: [00:57:26] <Colin[pi]> antmas: sorry, was wrong: https://www.ato.gov.au/Rates/Individual-income-tax-rates/
291: [00:57:35] <Colin[pi]> $17,547 plus 37c for each $1 over $80,000
292: [00:58:12] <irogue_> i couldn't live in AU
293: [00:58:18] <irogue_> shit internet and too damn hot
294: [00:58:24] <ss23> ^^^
295: [00:58:25] <UncleCheese_> wait
296: [00:58:29] <antmas> yeah this ^^^
297: [00:58:30] <ss23> the internet I can live with, BUT MY GOD THE HEAT
298: [00:58:31] <UncleCheese_> so nz has better internet than au?
299: [00:58:35] <ss23> UncleCheese_: *hell* yes
300: [00:58:36] <irogue_> UncleCheese_: very much
301: [00:58:37] <antmas> UncleCheese_: by far
302: [00:58:40] <UncleCheese_> what the fuck?
303: [00:58:41] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: EVERYWHERE has better internet than AU
304: [00:58:49] <UncleCheese_> what's going on with the aussies?
305: [00:58:52] <ss23> UncleCheese_: AU was *going* to get better internet, then a new government got in
306: [00:58:55] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: we're run by a bunch of cunts
307: [00:59:05] <UncleCheese_> oh, right.. the cunt factor
308: [00:59:06] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Haven't seen the news? "climate change is a hoax, the mining industry gave me enough money for me to confirm it as fact!"
309: [00:59:07] <antmas> Colin[pi]: so are we, really
310: [00:59:07] <Colin[pi]> luddite cunts
311: [00:59:27] <UncleCheese_> i think both islands are china's bitch, tbh
312: [00:59:29] <antmas> WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
313: [00:59:34] <ss23> UncleCheese_: One more than the other :P
314: [00:59:36] <irogue_> UncleCheese_: so, y'know FOX / News Corp? the evil company trying to fuck america
315: [00:59:36] <antmas> Aussie
316: [00:59:39] <antmas> Govt
317: [00:59:39] <ss23> AU is also Americas bitch
318: [00:59:41] <irogue_> yeah, they're australian
319: [00:59:41] <antmas> believes
320: [00:59:45] <ss23> ^^^
321: [00:59:47] <antmas> Climate Change
322: [00:59:48] <antmas> is
323: [00:59:49] <antmas> a
324: [00:59:50] <ss23> People don't even realise about Murdoch!
325: [00:59:51] <antmas> hoax?
326: [00:59:53] <ss23> antmas: Yes.
327: [00:59:54] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: we had a former liberal comms minister sit on his hands for like 8 years because he was against developing the internet infrastructure
328: [00:59:59] <irogue_> and they've been fucking AU longer than they've been fucking US
329: [01:00:01] <antmas> ss23: naidskfunbasdlfnasdlfnsadlfnslfoinasudfusalfnas;odf
330: [01:00:09] * antmas explodes
331: [01:00:15] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: then Labor started to build the NBN, awesome new internet
332: [01:00:18] <UncleCheese_> Murdoch is Australian?!
333: [01:00:22] <irogue_> UncleCheese_: yep
334: [01:00:30] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: then Liberals got back in and destroyed that
335: [01:00:36] <irogue_> and News Corp started there. damn near their entire media in AU is run by Murdoch
336: [01:00:45] <antmas> also in AU you can get fined for being drunk on a skateboard
337: [01:00:50] <ss23> antmas: http://www.climatechange.gov.au/ Observe the stark contrast. "Carbon tax to be abolished", then below that, "WE CONTRIBUTE TO DEVELOPING CLIMATE CHANGE SOLUTIONS, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, AND ADAPTING TO THE IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE."
338: [01:01:11] <irogue_> UncleCheese_: http://i2.wp.com/fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/258/0/c/australian_election_2013_murdoch_and_news_corp_by_wordswithmeaning-d6mhguz.png?resize=599%2C513
339: [01:01:16] <antmas> ss23: oh my god
340: [01:01:37] <Colin[pi]> also Murdoch and our current PM are best buds... they canned the awesome internet because it's a threat to Murdoch's cable dominance
341: [01:01:54] <UncleCheese_> here's an observation
342: [01:02:06] <UncleCheese_> everyone thinks the country they live in is fucked
343: [01:02:07] <antmas> ok so besides the wack govt.
344: [01:02:13] <antmas> and the heat and internet
345: [01:02:20] <antmas> everything else is gravy?
346: [01:02:29] <simon_w> antmas, EFTPOS minimums
347: [01:02:29] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Anyone who lives in NZ and thinks it's more fucked than AU or US is fooling themselves.
348: [01:02:38] <irogue_> ^
349: [01:02:40] <ss23> UncleCheese_: And also I don't think those people exist, for the most part
350: [01:02:42] <antmas> ^^^
351: [01:02:59] <antmas> simon_w: minimum fees you mean?
352: [01:03:04] <UncleCheese_> i dunno
353: [01:03:06] <irogue_> i know i've said it a million times
354: [01:03:12] <irogue_> but i live in the *slums* of *Hamilton*
355: [01:03:12] <UncleCheese_> it seems like every kiwi just wants to get the hell out of NZ
356: [01:03:18] <UncleCheese_> and move to AU
357: [01:03:19] <irogue_> a city of barely 150,000 people
358: [01:03:19] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: the govt we currently have is basically our equivalent of the Tea Party
359: [01:03:23] <simon_w> antmas, $10 minimums are rather common
360: [01:03:24] <irogue_> and have 100Mbit fibre
361: [01:03:30] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Yeah, because AU has a lot more money, more opertunities, etc etc
362: [01:03:48] <ss23> UncleCheese_: There are lots of reasons to get out of NZ if you're young. You don't need a good/stable/non-retarded government to live your life
363: [01:04:02] <ss23> End of the day, even if AU government does deny climate change, that laone doesn't instantly make it a bad place to live
364: [01:04:03] <UncleCheese_> i see
365: [01:04:07] <ss23> It just makes the government fucked up and retarded
366: [01:04:09] <irogue_> it's a good place to go work for a few years, make some money
367: [01:04:11] <irogue_> but not stay
368: [01:04:12] <ss23> ^^
369: [01:04:17] <irogue_> that tends to be what most NZ people do
370: [01:04:17] <UncleCheese_> well
371: [01:04:19] <ss23> Australia is really good for money
372: [01:04:27] <UncleCheese_> the USA, China, and Russia all deny climate change, too
373: [01:04:34] <Colin[pi]> ss23: like UncleCheese_ said, I think most western democracies are going through a "wait a minute, our govt is retarded" phase right now
374: [01:04:40] <antmas> yeah I've been thinking of going for 5 years then come back and buy a house etc in NZ
375: [01:04:51] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: yup, NZ too. tho nowhere near on the US or AU scale
376: [01:05:06] <ss23> All things considered, I think NZ is heading in the irght direction atm
377: [01:05:12] <UncleCheese_> so AU is good for money, but you're paying $620 a week for a two bedroom flat?
378: [01:05:13] <ss23> More greens each year, they have sane policies at least
379: [01:05:14] <Colin[pi]> I want to go there! lol
380: [01:05:17] <Colin[pi]> I'm tired of AU
381: [01:05:23] <irogue_> we're all upset about the discovery that we have corrupt politicians
382: [01:05:27] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Sydney, yes, and even with those prices, you get enough to make it worth it :P
383: [01:05:33] <UncleCheese_> huh
384: [01:05:34] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: who'd a thunk it!?
385: [01:05:40] <irogue_> but by AU or US standards, our corrupt politicians would probably be a breath of fresh air :P
386: [01:06:03] <UncleCheese_> all this talk about the new budget in NZ
387: [01:06:07] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: I saw yesty that both our major parties reject the idea of a federal anti-corruption commission... GEE I WONDER WHY
388: [01:06:13] <UncleCheese_> seems awfully conservative, from a NZ perspective
389: [01:06:16] <irogue_> NZ's idea of corrupt is "had dinner with a chinese milk company without declaring it"
390: [01:06:17] <UncleCheese_> very liberal from a US perspective
391: [01:06:33] <UncleCheese_> but no one is talking about the fact that 90% of the houses in the major NZ cities were declared unfit
392: [01:06:44] <irogue_> and i *love* that we still consider that major corruption :P
393: [01:06:49] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Those fitness ratings were kind of silly IMO :P
394: [01:06:55] <ss23> Fixed heating, smoke alarms within 2 meters of bedrooms
395: [01:07:05] <ss23> You have to remember, most of the houses declared unfit were unfit by breaking only a single thing
396: [01:07:18] <ss23> It's not hard to imagine that if a requirement is a fixed heating system built into the house, things are going to fail
397: [01:07:18] <irogue_> yeah, it was a loaded 'test', but there is some shoddy-ass housing around
398: [01:07:19] <UncleCheese_> well, regardless, i'm sure if you applied them to any other industrialised country, you'd get a much lower score
399: [01:07:19] <Colin[pi]> ss23: yeah there is a spectrum of unfit
400: [01:07:31] <irogue_> esp wellington, from what i've seen on trademe
401: [01:07:35] <irogue_> jesus there were some shitholes
402: [01:07:38] <Colin[pi]> unfit can be "broken smoke alarm" vs "HOLE IN THE FUCKING FLOOR"
403: [01:07:39] <ss23> Wellington is crazy for ad housing
404: [01:07:40] <antmas> UncleCheese_: labour will bring that up soon no doubt
405: [01:07:45] <ss23> Colin[pi]: We had both! :D
406: [01:07:46] <UncleCheese_> sweet
407: [01:07:49] <Colin[pi]> ss23: lol
408: [01:07:50] <ss23> Literaelly holes in the floor
409: [01:07:51] <UncleCheese_> i love the labour party
410: [01:07:54] <ss23> I was like "what the hell"
411: [01:07:59] <ss23> "oh yeah we ignore that"
412: [01:08:00] <Colin[pi]> ss23: downstairs access? :D
413: [01:08:06] <antmas> UncleCheese_: I'm in favour of them, but not their leader
414: [01:08:10] <ss23> "why not uh cover them up?" "the house is wet and damp anyway, doesn't matter"
415: [01:08:15] <ss23> XD
416: [01:08:20] <Colin[pi]> sheesh
417: [01:08:26] * irogue_ is a card-carrying Greens member
418: [01:08:39] <ss23> card carrying uh
419: [01:08:43] <antmas> irogue_: HIPPY!
420: [01:08:48] <irogue_> not really that obsessed with the greeny stuff, just that they're the only party with proper I.T. policies etc
421: [01:08:54] <ss23> ^^
422: [01:08:58] <ss23> They have good policies!
423: [01:09:00] * simon_w is a card-carrying ACT-library member!
424: [01:09:02] <antmas> I just don't vote at the mo
425: [01:09:10] <ss23> simon_w: XD
426: [01:09:16] <ss23> Yeah, I'll vote when you can vote online
427: [01:09:18] * irogue_ is a card-carrying Auckland and Hamilton libraries member!
428: [01:09:19] <irogue_> i cheat
429: [01:09:22] <ss23> Until then, irogue_, you do my voting for me!
430: [01:09:24] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: the greens candidate here in Canberra last election put up voting signs on literally every fucking corner in the city
431: [01:09:28] <irogue_> two library memberships at once!
432: [01:09:39] <simon_w> irogue_, I've got my WCL membership too!
433: [01:09:40] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: your Greens seem a lot more... extreme than ours
434: [01:09:45] <antmas> I won't vote unless the idea of choosing is not just 'choose the lesser of 2 evils'
435: [01:09:59] <Colin[pi]> irogue_: I tackled them on it at the polling booth, she's like "Oh, they're recyclable!" lol
436: [01:10:02] <simon_w> irogue_, yeah, our Greens have realised that being insane isn't good for them
437: [01:10:07] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: more like the Donald/Fitzsimons generation NZ Greens
438: [01:10:26] <irogue_> simon_w: change of leadership had a lot to do with that
439: [01:10:28] <Colin[pi]> wait, is voting compulsory in NZ?
440: [01:10:32] <simon_w> Colin[pi], nope
441: [01:10:39] <Colin[pi]> ohh, didn't realise
442: [01:10:43] <antmas> ss23: irogue_ where can I find the Green's IT policy outlining?
443: [01:10:57] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: being registered to vote is compulsory, voting isnt
444: [01:10:59] <antmas> Colin[pi]: enrollment yes, voting no
445: [01:11:03] <Colin[pi]> ah k
446: [01:11:36] <irogue_> antmas: https://www.greens.org.nz/policysummary/ict-policy-summary
447: [01:11:36] <antmas> lol just had someone come up and hug me for fixing a minor bug
448: [01:11:47] <simon_w> irogue_, also, the Conservatives would have good IT policy if they actually wrote some ;)
449: [01:11:50] <antmas> irogue_: tah
450: [01:11:51] <Colin[pi]> antmas: d'aww <3
451: [01:12:09] <simon_w> (dad would get me to vet it first)
452: [01:12:37] <antmas> that conservative party needs to dieinafire
453: [01:13:14] <irogue_> +1
454: [01:14:00] <irogue_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnQtlRGCUAA9_9s.jpg:large
455: [01:14:04] <irogue_> the sign on the right...
456: [01:14:42] <antmas> irogue_: LOOK!
457: [01:14:45] <Colin[pi]> lol
458: [01:14:45] <antmas> HE'S CURRENT!
459: [01:14:49] <antmas> VOTE HIM!
460: [01:15:02] <antmas> I can tell by the pixels
461: [01:15:07] <antmas> his hand is making a pentagram
462: [01:15:18] <antmas> I swear
463: [01:15:24] <irogue_> sad thing is that was like last week
464: [01:15:34] <hamror> fuck snapsvg is giving me grief
465: [01:15:40] <irogue_> how old is that Nek Minnit thing now?
466: [01:15:49] <antmas> irogue_: 2 years?
467: [01:15:55] <simon_w> Almost as old as always blow on the pie?
468: [01:16:07] <irogue_> "The video was popularised in mid-2011"
469: [01:16:08] <irogue_> 3 years!
470: [01:16:21] <antmas> simon_w: that was actually much older
471: [01:16:30] <antmas> simon_w: just became popular again
472: [01:16:38] <Colin[pi]> to use it now is very cringe inducing :\
473: [01:16:43] <simon_w> antmas, yeah, it was 5 years old when it got popular
474: [01:16:51] * Ryan-Toast quit (Quit: Ryan-Toast)
475: [01:16:56] <irogue_> i still like "always blow on the pie". but only when it's relevant
476: [01:17:23] <simon_w> I don't think I've seen a BP in Canbbera
477: [01:17:37] <irogue_> bought pie from Z late at night the other day
478: [01:17:37] <simon_w> How am I supposed to raid their pie warmers at 2 in the morning?
479: [01:17:46] <irogue_> guy was like "watch out, it's hot"
480: [01:17:56] <antmas> I had a BP pie for breakfast this morning ;P
481: [01:17:57] <irogue_> i replied "safer communities together"
482: [01:18:01] <antmas> was actually pretty good
483: [01:18:04] <irogue_> he looked confused for like 5 seconds then grinned
484: [01:18:05] <irogue_> he knew
485: [01:18:06] <antmas> 'gourmet'
486: [01:18:16] <irogue_> antmas: BCP is best
487: [01:18:22] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: we have them
488: [01:18:27] <antmas> irogue_: BCP?
489: [01:18:33] <irogue_> Butter Chicken Pie
490: [01:18:47] <antmas> irogue_: I had Chicken alfredo
491: [01:18:49] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: in fact there's one here in Phillip, near the car yards
492: [01:18:52] <antmas> was aight
493: [01:18:59] <irogue_> BP's BCP is the best BCP i've had
494: [01:19:00] <simon_w> Colin[pi], so why do I only see things that haven't been rebranded to Z yet?
495: [01:19:24] <irogue_> haha
496: [01:19:30] <simon_w> It's like seeing Woolworths stores that aren't Countdown
497: [01:19:42] <antmas> ughhh Cuntdown
498: [01:19:49] <irogue_> Z should buy the rights to AU's Shells too
499: [01:20:02] <antmas> Countdown is worse than PaknSave
500: [01:20:14] <Colin[pi]> Z? dafuq is Z?
501: [01:20:21] <simon_w> I like Coles. The Woden one has a shelf of NZ stuff
502: [01:20:23] <simon_w> Like L&P :D
503: [01:20:30] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: http://z.co.nz/
504: [01:20:47] <antmas> http://zn.co.nz/
505: [01:20:49] <antmas> bastard ^^
506: [01:20:49] <simon_w> And bluebird!
507: [01:20:50] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: Shell weren't interested in NZ any more, sold their NZ stations off
508: [01:20:52] <antmas> I want that
509: [01:20:55] <Colin[pi]> OIC
510: [01:21:25] <simon_w> Colin[pi], also, they have forecourt assistants
511: [01:21:49] <irogue_> they check your tyre pressure on the forecourt. it's weird.
512: [01:21:52] <antmas> awesome
513: [01:21:55] <simon_w> antmas, start ringing Rick at weird times until he gives it to you?
514: [01:22:18] <antmas> just got some spam from 'Phatbootycuties.com
515: [01:22:50] <antmas> simon_w: I'm just gonna send him really weak Walking Dead memes until he gives in
516: [01:22:53] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: they kept operating under Shell name for a while (under license) but apparently that was $$$ in licensing fees
517: [01:23:04] <Colin[pi]> mm I see
518: [01:23:26] <irogue_> Colin[pi]: so they rebranded and did a whole big "might as well buy your gas from a NZ-owned company" campaign
519: [01:23:57] <irogue_> seemed to work for them, along with bringing back forecourt attendants immediately getting them like 95% of old people
520: [01:24:29] <Colin[pi]> nice strategy
521: [01:25:51] <irogue_> it's half owned by "Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation" which is an investment group whose job it is to increase the superannuation fund
522: [01:26:35] <irogue_> so buying from them basically puts money into your superannuation :P
523: [01:29:33] <zippy__> people use Emogrifier and it good?
524: [01:30:19] <ss23> UncleCheese_: when you come for beers, you'll get lots of food too
525: [01:30:20] <ss23> :D
526: [01:30:25] <ss23> For international food day, we've got heaps left over
527: [01:30:43] <UncleCheese_> oh nice
528: [01:30:48] <UncleCheese_> i can only stick around till 6 or so
529: [01:30:54] <simon_w> 17 minutes to download 240 MB? This is an outrage!
530: [01:31:14] <ss23> UncleCheese_: What are you doing at 6?!
531: [01:31:18] <ss23> But that's okay, we start drinking at 3/4
532: [01:31:20] <UncleCheese_> kid
533: [01:31:25] <UncleCheese_> it changes everything :)
534: [01:31:37] <simon_w> You really shouldn't be doing children
535: [01:31:38] <zippy__> ^
536: [01:31:43] <Colin[pi]> yeah there is your life before a kid, and after... total change :D
537: [01:31:45] <UncleCheese_> if he's not in bed by 1900 hours, shit gets real
538: [01:31:56] <UncleCheese_> yup
539: [01:31:59] <ss23> lol
540: [01:32:16] <ss23> What about a mother?
541: [01:32:18] <UncleCheese_> diff aaron-2011 aaron 2013
542: [01:32:27] <UncleCheese_> $ > stack overlow
543: [01:32:28] * Ryan-Toast has joined #silverstripe
544: [01:33:05] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: notice how everyone says "OHH CONGRATULATIONS, OH IT'S SUCH A JOY" when they find out you're expecting?
545: [01:33:09] <Colin[pi]> WHY DIDNT YOU TELL ME THE TRUTH
546: [01:33:34] <zippy__> I think it's a joy for them, because they're not the ones having the baby...
547: [01:33:37] <UncleCheese_> hahaha
548: [01:33:38] <UncleCheese_> totally
549: [01:33:56] <Colin[pi]> there are great moments, but dude... there are shitty ones too! :D
550: [01:33:56] <UncleCheese_> it's so weird
551: [01:34:04] <UncleCheese_> yeah, that's what i was just going to say
552: [01:34:10] <UncleCheese_> your life becomes full of sacrifice
553: [01:34:18] <UncleCheese_> but for some reason, you wouldn't trade it
554: [01:34:21] <Colin[pi]> like those weeks where your kid gets sick and they twirl around the house like a vomit sprinkler
555: [01:34:22] <simon_w> Just sacrifice the kid
556: [01:34:25] <simon_w> Problem solved!
557: [01:34:52] <UncleCheese_> ss23: do you guys usually do friday fives, or is this a special thing?
558: [01:35:09] <UncleCheese_> heyday is big on friday fives.. i believe it's in the company mission statement
559: [01:35:20] <ss23> idk what "friday fives" is, but we buy alcohol literally every week
560: [01:35:32] <Colin[pi]> ss23: high five
561: [01:35:47] <UncleCheese_> you've never heard of friday fives?!
562: [01:36:04] <zippy__> god damn it ecommerce module, why you no send me emails!!
563: [01:36:06] <ss23> never!
564: [01:36:07] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, you've never heard of <something specific to my company>?
565: [01:36:13] <UncleCheese_> it was in like every tourst thing i read about NZ
566: [01:36:14] <ss23> lol
567: [01:36:14] <UncleCheese_> no, no
568: [01:36:23] * Ryan-Toast quit (Client Quit)
569: [01:36:24] <UncleCheese_> it's a NZ thing
570: [01:36:25] <zippy__> I've never heard of that term either
571: [01:36:53] <simon_w> I think your tourist things were lying to you :p
572: [01:36:57] <ss23> Maybe it's one of those things people not from NZ think is from NZ but really isn't? :O
573: [01:37:02] <ss23> That kind of thing happens reasonably often
574: [01:37:07] <actionbastard> i have never heard of friday fives
575: [01:37:08] <UncleCheese_> fuck now i'm googling it and it's nowhere
576: [01:37:10] <ss23> UncleCheese_: What is it? Just "drinking on friday"?
577: [01:37:14] <UncleCheese_> !!!!!!
578: [01:37:17] <UncleCheese_> seriously, guys
579: [01:37:23] <ss23> Five picks from Infatuation approved personalities, every Friday. _DSC8806.NEF. Amy Sedaris · Melissa Ben-Ishay of Baked by Melissa.
580: [01:37:29] <ss23> Do you have a toddler aged between two and five years old? Friday Fives offers pre-school children and their carers lively interactive hour-long sessions once a ...
581: [01:37:32] <ss23> hehehe
582: [01:37:35] <UncleCheese_> when i interviewed at heyday, i asked them about friday fives, and they gave me a tour of the fridge
583: [01:37:43] <zippy__> beer o'clock - yes, Friday frives, nop
584: [01:37:48] <UncleCheese_> fuck!
585: [01:37:51] <UncleCheese_> seriously?!?!
586: [01:37:53] <UncleCheese_> hang on
587: [01:37:56] <UncleCheese_> i'm going to prove you guys wrong
588: [01:38:05] <Colin[pi]> dafuq is friday fives? I think someone was having you on, UC
589: [01:38:25] * Ryan-Toast has joined #silverstripe
590: [01:38:38] * babak quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
591: [01:38:39] <UncleCheese_> hahahaha
592: [01:38:42] <UncleCheese_> i can't believe this
593: [01:38:51] <UncleCheese_> i've been telling everyone that it's a new zealand tradition
594: [01:39:02] <ss23> MOTHER FUCKING STALKERS UP IN HERE
595: [01:39:04] * ss23 gets nervous
596: [01:39:09] <ss23> 13:37:52 < dog> friday fives?
597: [01:39:18] <ss23> someone said that in another channel
598: [01:39:19] <ss23> ;____;
599: [01:39:55] <Colin[pi]> http://www.newzealandatoz.com/index.php/page/display/656/
600: [01:40:02] <Colin[pi]> "A standard and rather charming feature of working life in New Zealand is 'Friday Fives', which generally involves management and staff sharing drinks together in the office after close of work on Friday"
601: [01:40:13] <UncleCheese_> yesssssssss
602: [01:40:39] <Colin[pi]> not seeing much of a mention of it though ;P
603: [01:41:37] <simon_w> Probably because it's not a NZ thing :p
604: [01:41:42] <actionbastard> i think that only happened at the authors workplace
605: [01:41:44] <ss23> "Requests from male staff for their female colleagues to 'get a cup of tea' or 'wash the dishes', and patronizing or sexually motivated remarks about women or girls, are not acceptable."
606: [01:41:44] <actionbastard> and nowhere else
607: [01:41:48] <ss23> Welllllllllllllllllllll
608: [01:41:48] <ss23> We joke about it here
609: [01:42:01] <ss23> And there was also that whole "rape dungeon" thing (though that was a chick making that joke)
610: [01:42:20] <UncleCheese_> I believe I am owed an apology
611: [01:42:42] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Hey, all we said was we've never heard of it and we think you've been liked to!
612: [01:42:52] <UncleCheese_> Friday Fives is clearly a longstanding NZ workplace tradition, and the 15 people in this chat room who deny its existence are no better than the climate change deniers
613: [01:42:55] <Colin[pi]> ss23: I used to work with a guy who deliberately kept the office at almost sub-zero temps because he liked the high-beams the office women would get
614: [01:42:57] <ss23> hahahaha
615: [01:43:01] <zippy__> hahah
616: [01:43:05] <ss23> Colin[pi]: haha, that's horrible
617: [01:43:13] <Colin[pi]> ss23: seriosuly that's the only reason lol
618: [01:43:30] <Colin[pi]> i'm like "why is it so cold?" "TITS!"
619: [01:43:52] <ss23> duude
620: [01:44:08] <ss23> I'm horrified and in amazed that someone would do that
621: [01:44:15] <Colin[pi]> lol
622: [01:44:19] <antmas> I'm not suprised
623: [01:44:20] <antmas> :P
624: [01:44:26] <antmas> does that make me a bad person?
625: [01:45:26] <Colin[pi]> antmas: nah
626: [01:46:57] <Stomach> UncleCheese_ - friday fives is a heyday term
627: [01:47:04] <Stomach> most people just call it end of week drinks
628: [01:47:26] <Colin[pi]> beer o'clock
629: [01:47:43] <antmas> hanging out for a beer
630: [01:47:50] <antmas> haven't had alcohol in like 4 weeks
631: [01:47:52] <ss23> time to get krunk
632: [01:47:54] <antmas> craziness!
633: [01:47:57] <UncleCheese_> Stomach: no… http://www.newzealandatoz.com/index.php/page/display/656/
634: [01:48:14] <ss23> UncleCheese_: That's like the only refernece to it ever!
635: [01:48:25] <UncleCheese_> if there's one reference to it on the internet, it's a long standing cultural tradition
636: [01:48:27] <ss23> Maybe that person worked at Heydey in NZ and based it all off that!
637: [01:48:29] <irogue_> workplaces exist that don't have beer o'clock?
638: [01:48:37] <Stomach> irogue_ - yeah lots of them
639: [01:48:46] <UncleCheese_> it's kind of like how kicking a cat 6 metres in the air is a longstanding American tradition
640: [01:48:47] <Stomach> every government agency for example
641: [01:48:56] <irogue_> fuck government agencies then
642: [01:49:12] <irogue_> tho i know the police have a wicked beer o'clock
643: [01:49:15] <UncleCheese_> i'm so bummed
644: [01:49:28] <irogue_> private bar in central police stations
645: [01:49:31] <ss23> The place with the worst case of it I knew of was my highschool
646: [01:49:40] <ss23> There was a bar near the shcool, they would go there LITEARLLY EVERY NIGHT
647: [01:49:42] <ss23> Not just on Fridays
648: [01:49:44] <irogue_> OMG yes
649: [01:49:46] <irogue_> *teachers*
650: [01:49:51] <irogue_> love their fucking beer o'clock
651: [01:49:53] <ss23> few of the teacehers were actually alcoholics, would turn up hungover ever morning
652: [01:49:56] <ss23> yeah
653: [01:50:03] <ss23> I mean, I would too if I had to deal with kids, but jesus they drunk a lot
654: [01:50:22] <antmas> yeah that's just teachers
655: [01:50:37] <Stomach> UncleCheese_ if you think about it, new zealanders would have friday 10ams not friday fives
656: [01:50:38] <irogue_> my grandad doesn't drink, but would go out with the others and end up sober driving them home from weird karaoke bars at 1am on school nights
657: [01:50:42] <Stomach> us all being alcoholics and stuff
658: [01:50:47] <ss23> XD
659: [01:50:53] * jerry5 has joined #silverstripe
660: [01:50:55] <UncleCheese_> you guys seriously tie one on here
661: [01:51:14] <jerry5> Hi guys I need a quick help
662: [01:51:15] <Stomach> one?
663: [01:51:21] <zippy__> jerry5: 111 ?
664: [01:51:26] <ss23> tie one on?
665: [01:51:28] <ss23> lol zippy__
666: [01:51:30] <Stomach> in university I drank for 22 days straight for o-week(s)
667: [01:51:52] <irogue_> yeah, the ultimate hangover cure, just don't stop drinking
668: [01:51:54] <Stomach> ss23 - continuing to drink the next day before your hangover is gone
669: [01:52:01] <jerry5> I have many_many_extraFields how do I display those extra field in a template?
670: [01:52:01] <zippy__> jerry5: ?
671: [01:52:05] <ss23> oic
672: [01:52:37] <irogue_> jerry5: uh, let me just go and look up how i've done that (unless someone else can remember off the top of their head)
673: [01:52:48] <Colin[pi]> btw UncleCheese_, talking of kids earlier... The Oatmeal nailed it: http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences4/kids
674: [01:53:37] <UncleCheese_> yes!
675: [01:54:18] <antmas> oh god
676: [01:54:23] <antmas> I have a meeting in 5 mins
677: [01:54:28] <UncleCheese_> Colin[pi]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQfylQ2Jgg
678: [01:54:34] <antmas> that I knwo the answer to the person's question already
679: [01:54:37] <irogue_> jerry5: which SS version?
680: [01:54:48] <irogue_> antmas: just email them the answer and don't go
681: [01:54:57] <jerry5> irogue_: Version 3.1
682: [01:54:57] <antmas> irogue_: I migh actually
683: [01:55:10] <UncleCheese_> "Leaving the house… this is you leaving the house before kids: 'shall we leave the house?' 'Yes!' "
684: [01:55:19] <UncleCheese_> "This is you leaving the house after kids…. <mayhem>"
685: [01:55:32] <Colin[pi]> lol so true
686: [01:55:37] <UncleCheese_> that's a great bit
687: [01:57:08] <antmas> ^^^ not nearly as bad as when you have more than 1 kid
688: [01:57:13] <antmas> 1 kids is pretty manageable
689: [01:57:18] <antmas> kid*
690: [01:57:23] <Stomach> no kids is the best
691: [01:57:24] <UncleCheese_> ss23: does SilverStripe have all-you-can-eat chocolates? your answer will determine what size backpack i bring to Heyday next friday.
692: [01:57:24] <irogue_> jerry5: ah, terns out i'm never doing that, i'm grabbing the value in a controller method and delivering it that way
693: [01:57:39] <irogue_> Stomach: +1
694: [01:58:29] <ss23> XD
695: [01:58:32] <ss23> UncleCheese_: Nope, unfortunatly
696: [01:58:32] <ss23> :P
697: [01:58:46] <UncleCheese_> or fortunately
698: [01:59:00] <jerry5> irogue_: thanks for your help
699: [01:59:04] <antmas> UncleCheese_: what's happs next Friday?
700: [01:59:12] <UncleCheese_> last day at heyday :(
701: [01:59:20] <antmas> UncleCheese_: I KNEW THIS :D
702: [01:59:26] * antmas wins
703: [01:59:28] <UncleCheese_> of course you did
704: [01:59:57] <UncleCheese_> did you find out via the plane flying the banner over the South Island? or the pamphlets falling from parachutes?
705: [02:00:10] <irogue_> UncleCheese_: your indian namesake looks delicious
706: [02:00:12] <ss23> UncleCheese_: unlimited coke n stuff though ^.^
707: [02:00:13] <antmas> UncleCheese_: secrec auces
708: [02:00:22] <antmas> woah spelling
709: [02:00:27] <antmas> UncleCheese_: secret sources
710: [02:00:36] <UncleCheese_> indian namesake
711: [02:00:37] <UncleCheese_> hmm
712: [02:00:38] <UncleCheese_> paneer?
713: [02:00:43] <irogue_> http://www.unclecheese.in/
714: [02:00:58] <irogue_> "UncleCheese: most yummiest"
715: [02:01:02] <irogue_> thatis now your tagline
716: [02:01:08] <ss23> XD
717: [02:01:13] <UncleCheese_> hahahahahaha
718: [02:01:14] <UncleCheese_> i love it
719: [02:01:35] * antmas is now known as MostYummiest
720: [02:02:13] <irogue_> http://www.unclecheese.in/images/heading.png
721: [02:02:17] <Stomach> why does $Variations.TotalItems always return 1, and then the loop will loop over the two items that are there
722: [02:02:23] <Stomach> o_O
723: [02:02:28] <irogue_> as if Most Yummiest wasn't enough... THAT APOSTROPHE
724: [02:02:57] <irogue_> Stomach: cos it hates you
725: [02:03:06] * MostYummiest is now known as antmas
726: [02:03:15] <antmas> meh, wasn't as funny as I'd hoped
727: [02:03:17] <antmas> :(
728: [02:03:22] * Stomach is now known as UncleMilk
729: [02:03:38] * antmas is now known as UncleWhey
730: [02:03:46] <irogue_> antmas: i'd have ended up forgetting about it and almost permanently ending up with that name
731: [02:03:48] <UncleCheese_> haha.. this is good, too http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences4/accents
732: [02:03:52] <irogue_> a la Giganaire
733: [02:04:25] <UncleWhey> hey guis
734: [02:04:30] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese_: ahahaha
735: [02:04:34] <UncleWhey> where is UncleCurds at
736: [02:04:35] <UncleWhey> ?
737: [02:04:38] * irogue_ is now known as UncleCurds
738: [02:04:48] <UncleWhey> UncleCurds: hey brah
739: [02:04:59] <UncleCurds> UncleWhey: eyyyyyy
740: [02:05:23] <UncleMilk> UncleMilk: hello
741: [02:05:28] <UncleMilk> ;(
742: [02:05:31] <UncleWhey> lol
743: [02:05:33] <UncleCurds> watch out, some bitch is trying to eat us on a tuffet
744: [02:05:42] * UncleMilk is now known as Stomach
745: [02:05:48] <UncleWhey> UncleCheese_: tour MIGHTY OVERLORD
746: [02:05:52] <UncleWhey> our*
747: [02:09:11] <Ryan-Toast> Can you add to a forms $data without using a hiddenField in the form?
748: [02:10:13] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, $data is just $_POST
749: [02:10:29] <simon_w> Restart time!
750: [02:10:33] <zippy__> Stomach: $Variations.Count ?
751: [02:11:02] <Stomach> yeah that works
752: [02:11:21] <Stomach> but, why doesnt the other
753: [02:11:22] <Stomach> :D
754: [02:11:26] * simon_w quit (Quit: Leaving)
755: [02:11:38] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: So I can just add $_POST[‘’whatever] ?
756: [02:13:18] * jerry5 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
757: [02:13:52] <Stomach> whats the easiest way to search through github issues?
758: [02:15:09] <UncleCurds> Stomach: just using the search at the top of github?
759: [02:15:15] <Stomach> yeah I just noticed that
760: [02:15:16] <Stomach> thanks
761: [02:15:17] <Stomach> :D
762: [02:16:42] <Ryan-Toast> My formaction on a member does this: http://pastebin.com/FBTGi9an
763: [02:16:55] <Ryan-Toast> but it doesn’t update the members “status’ WHHHY?
764: [02:17:28] <zippy__> not being set to member, not calling write?
765: [02:18:26] <UncleCurds> yeah, writing to $data won't do anything unless you're manually doing $blah->Status = $data['Status'] somewhere down the line
766: [02:19:08] <Ryan-Toast> Full action: http://pastebin.com/YZz1PFfr
767: [02:19:27] <UncleCurds> yep
768: [02:19:36] <UncleCurds> nothing's being done with $data['Status']
769: [02:19:48] <Ryan-Toast> $data['Status'] = (int)1; ?
770: [02:19:58] <Ryan-Toast> I’m setting it as 1?
771: [02:20:12] <UncleCurds> Ryan-Toast: but then when is anything being written using the value of $data['Status']?
772: [02:20:36] <UncleCurds> $data doesn't exist anywhere else in the method
773: [02:20:37] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCurds: $data is being written to member, and member has a Status field
774: [02:21:06] <Stomach> where is data being written to member
775: [02:21:11] <Ryan-Toast> Oh.
776: [02:21:15] <Ryan-Toast> Form is being written to data
777: [02:21:21] <UncleCurds> the $data array is just a convenience for you to easily access the values
778: [02:21:48] <UncleCurds> the database is updated using the values of the $form object, which isn't easily usable
779: [02:21:57] <Ryan-Toast> How do I add the data to the member? Do I just add it as part of the $form?
780: [02:22:20] <UncleCurds> Ryan-Toast: hold up, i'll edit that paste for you
781: [02:22:38] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCurds: thanks :)
782: [02:26:49] <Stomach> man, sometimes things you expect to be simple are extremely hard to follow in SS core
783: [02:27:00] <ss23> and vice versa, sometimes
784: [02:27:17] <Stomach> yeah
785: [02:27:37] <Stomach> but getting the total size of a list, woah, what a chain of events that appears to happen to get that out
786: [02:29:26] <UncleCurds> Colin[pi]: http://pastebin.com/vAa57KfC
787: [02:29:29] <UncleCurds> untested of course :P
788: [02:29:47] <UncleCurds> uh
789: [02:29:49] <UncleCurds> * Ryan-Toast
790: [02:29:52] <Colin[pi]> wat
791: [02:29:53] <Colin[pi]> oh
792: [02:29:54] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCurds: Thanks, man.
793: [02:31:14] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCurds: Aww yiss, that worked.
794: [02:32:42] <Stomach> you probably don't need the if statement
795: [02:33:13] <UncleCurds> yeah, i figured i wouldn't make assumptions on what that was doing
796: [02:33:32] <UncleCurds> just reproduced the same functionality
797: [02:33:53] <UncleCurds> but if Status is only ever 0 or 1, then the if statement is redundant
798: [02:33:58] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: Which if statement?
799: [02:34:15] <Stomach> if ($data['Status'] = 0)
800: [02:34:19] <Ryan-Toast> The case statement will have a few cases once I add more steps :)
801: [02:34:25] <UncleCurds> ah sweet
802: [02:34:35] <Stomach> neato
803: [02:34:38] <UncleCurds> you'll have to switch it back to a switch then, but you get the idea :P
804: [02:34:54] * UncleWhey is now known as antmas
805: [02:35:05] <UncleCurds> just remember to break; at the end of each case ;)
806: [02:38:46] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCurds: This is what I’ve got to at the moment, currently adding the next step: http://www.gfycat.com/AncientWateryElephant
807: [02:43:38] <Colin[pi]> looking good Ryan-Toast
808: [02:44:08] * simon_w has joined #silverstripe
809: [02:44:19] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Cheers, I’m making it to handle clients projects from start to finish. Will open source it once it’s done if anyone wants to use it.
810: [02:44:30] <Colin[pi]> nice
811: [02:45:04] <Ryan-Toast> stages: Details > Questionnaire > Concept revision 1 & 2 > Developent Revision 1 & 2 > Go-live and testimonial request
812: [02:45:27] <Ryan-Toast> Sick of trawling my emails for shit, so making it automated.
813: [02:45:53] <Ryan-Toast> Phase two will be automated contract generation.
814: [02:47:24] <Stomach> simon_w - is arraylist viewabledata?
815: [02:55:13] <UncleCurds> Stomach: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-ArrayList.html
816: [02:55:17] <UncleCurds> looks like it :P
817: [02:55:28] <Stomach> haha, thanks
818: [02:56:10] <zippy__> return $this->createMenuDOSFromArray($this->crazyshit, $type = "CrazyShit");
819: [02:56:14] <zippy__> intersting
820: [02:58:35] <Stomach> well the function is called CrazyShit() after all
821: [03:03:44] <zippy__> indeed
822: [03:04:38] <simon_w> Well, iTunes 11.2 just saved my 14 GB of space
823: [03:04:57] <simon_w> That was nice of it
824: [03:06:08] <UncleCurds> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4618071/snapchrome.png
825: [03:06:21] <UncleCurds> the snap! chrome extension is confused
826: [03:06:31] <zippy__> unlimited?
827: [03:06:37] <ss23> unlimited!
828: [03:06:38] <ss23> gigarich!
829: [03:07:05] * UncleCurds is now known as Giganaire
830: [03:07:11] <zippy__> yeap, seems it's gone unlimited....
831: [03:07:20] * zippy__ is going to download the internet to /dev/null
832: [03:07:33] <Giganaire> icon on toolbar thinks i've used none
833: [03:07:41] <Giganaire> bar in popup thinks i've used all of it
834: [03:07:59] <Giganaire> and all 0.00s
835: [03:08:39] <ss23> well..
836: [03:08:42] <ss23> 0/0 == 100%
837: [03:09:34] <zippy__> mm how are they planning on working that out :) 2147483647 perhaps
838: [03:10:18] <Giganaire> they prob just need to hide everything but used and average daily
839: [03:11:05] <zippy__> I wonder what has changed the past few months...
840: [03:11:35] <zippy__> I remember, years ago telecom had there go large unlimited which bombed as it was slow, there was a couple of others that have tried and failed. Now we have telecom, snap and vodafone doing it - with probably others
841: [03:13:03] <Giganaire> slingshot and orcon have both done it for ages
842: [03:13:05] <Giganaire> (both badly)
843: [03:14:31] <Giganaire> it seems fine so far, international still within acceptable numbers
844: [03:14:37] <Giganaire> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3503694837
845: [03:16:02] <Giganaire> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3503696624
846: [03:16:03] <zippy__> not bad
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849: [03:36:43] <antmas> 1 hour to go
850: [03:36:50] * antmas rubs hands
851: [03:38:22] * ss23 rubs antmas's hands
852: [03:38:23] * simon_w wants to play Firefly
853: [03:38:24] <ss23> ohhh, so soft
854: [03:39:14] <antmas> ss23: :D
855: [03:39:47] <antmas> dat soft IT hand skin
856: [03:41:03] <Ryan-Toast> Guy who was supposed to clean my bike pulled a sickie today, mother fucker.
857: [03:41:23] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I can't believe you actually get a guy to do that
858: [03:41:33] <antmas> that's like getting someone to hold your willy while you pee
859: [03:41:35] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I don’t have the time.
860: [03:41:41] <Ryan-Toast> I have a guy for that too
861: [03:42:12] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I do this http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxow5o9w3H1qzxzwwo1_500.jpg
862: [03:43:55] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I just can’t clean my bike in my apartment, and I don’t have anywhere to hand wash her.
863: [03:45:05] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: how much does it cost?
864: [03:45:40] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: like $100
865: [03:45:44] <Stomach> :S
866: [03:45:57] <simon_w> Ooh, Firefly has a single player option
867: [03:46:24] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: a week?
868: [03:46:38] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Nah, once a month
869: [03:47:02] <antmas> not horrible I guess
870: [03:47:09] <antmas> I fucking hate cleaning bikes
871: [03:47:14] <antmas> especially all the fairings
872: [03:47:24] <Ryan-Toast> Chain is the worst.
873: [03:47:32] <Ryan-Toast> Takes so fucking long
874: [03:47:53] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: does he lube it after he cleans it? #nohomo
875: [03:48:02] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, I have lube here.
876: [03:48:10] <Ryan-Toast> ;)
877: [03:48:52] <Stomach> beer oclock
878: [03:48:59] <Stomach> have a good weekend everyone
879: [03:49:31] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: bai
880: [03:50:00] <antmas> Stomach: l8z m8z
881: [03:50:30] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I actually bought a scott oiler with my bike
882: [03:50:38] <antmas> such a waste of money
883: [03:52:28] <antmas> anyone ever use live chat systems with websites/
884: [03:52:30] <antmas> ?*
885: [03:55:20] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: never.
886: [03:55:25] <Ryan-Toast> waste of fucking dev time
887: [03:56:23] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi] All aboard the hype train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXT3b2HLtSU
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889: [03:58:11] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: saw that the other day pretty badass
890: [03:58:16] <antmas> terrible video though
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896: [04:16:48] <Ryan-Toast> Man it got cold fast.
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898: [04:16:58] <Ryan-Toast> I remember sleeping with the fan on 3 weeks ago.
899: [04:22:31] <ss23> I almost used my duvet last night
900: [04:22:39] <ss23> I had it on for all of 5 minutes but got way otoo hot :(
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902: [04:27:18] <Ryan-Toast> Mrs ahad the mink blanket on her side of the bde
903: [04:27:21] <Ryan-Toast> bed
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906: [04:30:53] <ss23> lol
907: [04:30:55] <ss23> What a girl!
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909: [04:40:16] * Giganaire did a pull request on snap-chromium
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912: [04:57:46] <guci0> Hello World!
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917: [05:35:05] <Colin[pi]> beer o'clock started and finished early ;(
918: [05:39:23] <guci0> :)
919: [05:40:20] <guci0> 8 AM is a litte bit early for beer – but to day is firday – "week end and the beginning" ;D
920: [05:50:05] <ss23> lol
921: [05:50:10] <ss23> Friday Fives!
922: [05:55:09] <Colin[pi]> lol ss23
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924: [06:12:04] <guci0> Wrry – who change URLSegment converter "." -> "-" ? Ah!
925: [06:12:26] <guci0> *changed
926: [06:13:09] <guci0> was good!
927: [06:14:02] <guci0> (3.0.3)
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929: [06:20:15] <guci0> http://dtl.pl/assets/pic/Zrzut%20ekranu%202014-05-16%20o%2008.17.21.png domain name is bold,
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932: [06:55:11] <willagain> hello. its me again
933: [06:55:55] <willagain> i've added a new page type to my site. it works wonderfully on local. when i go to rest it on staging, silverstripe does not show the page type as an option when creating a new page
934: [06:55:59] <willagain> why might that be?
935: [06:56:10] <ss23> Did you dev/build and ?flush=all?
936: [06:56:21] <ss23> If you did both of that and it 's still not there, you probably didn't deploy it on staging!
937: [06:56:42] <willagain> i have dev/build?flush=all my little heart out. i mean i have dev/build?flush=all dev/build?flush=all dev/build?flush=all dev/build?flush=all all afternoon
938: [06:56:56] <willagain> i've also checked the file is on staging
939: [06:57:52] <guci0> .htaccess is good configured?
940: [06:57:55] <ss23> lol
941: [06:57:59] <ss23> willagain: That's not exactly how it works...
942: [06:58:09] <ss23> IT's annoying, but you can't do a ?flush=1 from a dev/build
943: [06:58:13] <ss23> Instead, do a /admin?flush=all
944: [06:58:44] <willagain> i've played that till my fingers bled
945: [06:58:55] <ss23> Then I would check your database -- do the tables etc exist
946: [06:59:02] <ss23> e.g. does it show up as a valid class in /dev/build
947: [06:59:07] <ss23> that'll tell you if you deployed it to staging properly
948: [06:59:40] <ss23> Anyway, gotta go out IRL, good luck, willagain! It's just a case of tracking down where the missing part is! :)
949: [07:00:24] <willagain> ha, yes. but there are BILLIONS of parts.
950: [07:01:12] <willagain> and yep its in the db
951: [07:01:52] <willagain> to be fair, it might be me. this week i have broken rails, imagemagick , silverstripe, composer and git. its been awesome. 59mins till heaps and heaps of beer
952: [07:03:50] <willagain> and the class is being built in dev/build too.
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957: [07:39:32] <wmk> g'morning
958: [07:42:40] <guci0> Yo!
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961: [07:49:26] <simon_w> Evening
962: [07:50:43] <guci0> Time to update 10.9.3 – brb. Hello simon_w!
963: [07:53:20] <Giganaire> wub wub wub
964: [07:53:22] <Giganaire> so many ciders
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967: [07:59:57] <kosepusen> anyone here ?
968: [08:00:07] <wmk> of course
969: [08:00:24] <kosepusen> cool, i am struggling with a calendar issue
970: [08:00:37] <wmk> oh
971: [08:00:42] <wmk> a module?
972: [08:00:47] <wmk> or self made?
973: [08:00:56] <kosepusen> new to this silverstripe thing, so this is not as complicated as a module
974: [08:01:03] <kosepusen> i just want an inline jquery calendar
975: [08:01:09] <kosepusen> not a popup
976: [08:01:30] <wmk> for a date field?
977: [08:01:33] <kosepusen> yea
978: [08:01:50] <wmk> hmm....
979: [08:02:29] <wmk> i guess you'll have to subclass the field and edit the html. The input field (which holds the value) has to be hidden, the calendar shown all the time
980: [08:03:15] <kosepusen> lets start at the back of that, how do i get the calendar to show all the time
981: [08:03:30] <kosepusen> i am aiming for a form like this http://www.svendseneksos.no/eksos/14/
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984: [08:06:09] <kosepusen> wait, i think i got that much actually
985: [08:06:10] <kosepusen> http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
986: [08:06:15] <kosepusen> but it's not a good way to do it
987: [08:06:55] <wmk> at least a start while not that sexy
988: [08:07:17] <wmk> you want some kind of static date picker
989: [08:09:55] <kosepusen> and by static you mean... ?
990: [08:10:44] <wmk> the normal date field has a popup which is shown onclick
991: [08:10:50] <wmk> static means it doesn't hide
992: [08:10:58] <wmk> Zauberfisch, any ideas?
993: [08:10:59] <kosepusen> right, that's what i am going for
994: [08:11:20] <kosepusen> so, what i have there works... but, this js is in my .ss file
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996: [08:11:30] <kosepusen> would be better in a js file, but i can't get that to work
997: [08:11:46] <wmk> why?
998: [08:12:08] <kosepusen> ... neater ? suppose it won't matter if it works
999: [08:12:25] <wmk> of course better caus it's seperated
1000: [08:13:12] <kosepusen> yea... but, i guess more important, is i have to get the date from the calendar - an hidden form field ?
1001: [08:14:29] <wmk> it now blocks the creation of the page. Better seperate it and put it inside a $(document).ready function
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1003: [08:15:01] <wmk> well, you need some kind of silverstripe field to get the data back to silverstripe
1004: [08:18:03] <wmk> kosepusen, i guess you just have to trigger datefields picker and modify the css for this special field
1005: [08:18:49] <wmk> hide the input and include the picker in your flow (that it doesn't look like a popup)
1006: [08:18:57] <wmk> a bit hacky but it should work.
1007: [08:18:58] <kosepusen> trigger, you mean by $f->setConfig('showcalendar', true); correct ?
1008: [08:19:44] <kosepusen> include the picker in the flow, with CSS ?
1009: [08:20:03] <wmk> yes, but then it's not displayed by default. you have to show it using javascript
1010: [08:21:52] <wmk> hmm, datepicker is positioned absolute and outside of the form
1011: [08:23:48] <wmk> easiest would be to hide MyDate completely and let your own picker update MyDate
1012: [08:23:50] <kosepusen> yea, so getting the value is not easy..
1013: [08:24:12] <kosepusen> right, but when i try using something like
1014: [08:24:22] <kosepusen> onSelect: function(dateText, inst) {
1015: [08:24:27] <wmk> not? it should be. just tell the picker what form field to use
1016: [08:24:37] <kosepusen> it links all the dates to a page
1017: [08:25:30] <kosepusen> http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
1018: [08:25:33] <kosepusen> all are links...
1019: [08:26:18] <kosepusen> is there no way to customize the config that is passed to a normal datefield from silverstipe ... ? if i can just add an inline variable, woudln't that work
1020: [08:26:28] <wmk> http://api.jqueryui.com/datepicker/#option-altField should get you started
1021: [08:27:01] <kosepusen> ok, let me try this and see how far i get! thanks
1022: [08:27:46] <wmk> your field name in html is #Form_Form_MyDate
1023: [08:29:04] <kosepusen> yes, that works!
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1025: [08:30:49] <wmk> glad i could help you
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1027: [08:31:28] <guci0_> Done :)
1028: [08:32:19] <kosepusen> thanks!
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1032: [09:02:33] <simon_w> So, you can make main.php tiny
1033: [09:04:04] <Giganaire> simon_w: been optimizin'?
1034: [09:05:20] <simon_w> Giganaire, yeah. https://git.simon.geek.nz/simon_w/silverstripe-framework/blob/3.1/main.php is now mostly comments
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1037: [09:08:33] <Pybnesk> Bacon and Egg with Pepper and Brown sauce on a Brown bun.
1038: [09:08:37] <Pybnesk> OM NOM NOM NOM
1039: [09:09:00] <Pybnesk> alas, a per usual, it's made me more hungry, not less :<
1040: [09:09:08] <Pybnesk> the curse of the bacon sandwich!
1041: [09:09:28] <wmk> hmm... an apple before for the hunger?
1042: [09:10:48] <Pybnesk> hmm, could try that next time.
1043: [09:13:04] <wmk> wow, addons site polls for changes quite often...?
1044: [09:13:23] <Pybnesk> idk.
1045: [09:13:30] <wmk> ??
1046: [09:14:57] <Pybnesk> I don't know
1047: [09:15:07] <wmk> ah
1048: [09:15:36] <Pybnesk> also idek, I don't even know.
1049: [09:15:45] <kinglozzer> idfk
1050: [09:15:53] <Pybnesk> idkfa
1051: [09:16:00] <kinglozzer> idkfaatm
1052: [09:16:06] <Pybnesk> iddqd
1053: [09:16:13] <kinglozzer> No idea ^^
1054: [09:16:20] <wmk> dunno
1055: [09:16:22] <Pybnesk> Because you're too young :<
1056: [09:16:25] <kinglozzer> :(
1057: [09:16:56] <Pybnesk> http://google.com/search?q=iddqd
1058: [09:17:23] <kinglozzer> Pff, you old people with your old games
1059: [09:17:24] * simon_w quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
1060: [09:17:28] <kinglozzer> :P
1061: [09:17:59] <kinglozzer> I think I played doom though, screenshots/videos of it look vaguely familiar
1062: [09:18:15] <kinglozzer> Also, "bitmap brothers" rings a bell, can't remember what game that was though
1063: [09:21:38] <Pybnesk> that moment when you learn the ternary operator's first option is optional if you leave out the white space
1064: [09:22:13] <Pybnesk> $tololornottolol=$lol?:$fuck
1065: [09:24:29] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: Is that the same as $lolornot = $lol ? $lol : $fuck
1066: [09:24:29] <kinglozzer> ?
1067: [09:24:38] <Pybnesk> mmm
1068: [09:24:44] <kinglozzer> Elvis operator or w/e
1069: [09:24:57] <Pybnesk> yeh
1070: [09:25:23] <kinglozzer> So PHP's version of var foo = bar || 'fuck';
1071: [09:26:09] <Pybnesk> well no
1072: [09:26:17] <Pybnesk> that's syntactically ambiguious.
1073: [09:26:28] <Pybnesk> and javascript iirc?
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1075: [09:27:02] <kinglozzer> Yeah JS, but you can't do it with PHP ^
1076: [09:27:05] <Pybnesk> but bar = true, bar || 'stringcastasboolean' == true
1077: [09:27:08] <kinglozzer> Like that anyway
1078: [09:27:15] <Pybnesk> yeah because ambiguious.
1079: [09:27:21] <Pybnesk> || === OR
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1081: [09:30:17] <Pybnesk> hmm pseudo singletons
1082: [09:30:30] <Pybnesk> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/reference/injector
1083: [09:30:32] <Pybnesk> wtb, more docs.
1084: [09:31:53] <Pybnesk> "A pseudo-singleton, in that only one item will be created for a particular identifier (but the same class could be used for multiple identifiers)"
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1086: [09:37:11] <ocm> howdy!
1087: [09:40:09] <kosepusen> how do I make the input date field hidden ? http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
1088: [09:41:56] <ocm> add a class and use css?
1089: [09:42:43] <ocm> or make it an hiddenfield
1090: [09:46:29] <kosepusen> can i have a field that is both a date and a hidden field
1091: [09:46:43] <wmk> by adding the right css, yes
1092: [09:46:54] <wmk> do you have a class for hiding stuff?
1093: [09:46:55] <kosepusen> right, so the field is date, but use css to hide it, got it
1094: [09:46:58] <wmk> e.g. .hidden?
1095: [09:47:00] <kosepusen> i will in a sec
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1097: [09:52:10] <kosepusen> ok, that's fixed - but now i have some jquery problem with loading.. i have a script to create a fancy dropdown, which works fine in other pages, but on this page can't find jquery...
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1100: [10:04:47] <Pybnesk> because conflicts
1101: [10:04:58] <Pybnesk> you're typing script tags directly into your code
1102: [10:05:00] <Pybnesk> bad.
1103: [10:05:53] <kosepusen> directly into my code, in my .ss file you mean ?
1104: [10:06:02] <Pybnesk> yes
1105: [10:06:28] <kosepusen> right, i brought that up earlier, i would rather use a .js file, but i can't get that to work because of conflicts, so that's where i need some advice
1106: [10:06:35] <kosepusen> how to clear up the jquery conflicts
1107: [10:06:40] <Pybnesk> because you're doing it all wrong.
1108: [10:06:56] <kosepusen> all wrong ? all of it ? geez
1109: [10:07:05] <Pybnesk> pretty much, unfortunately :<
1110: [10:07:15] <Pybnesk> always encapsulate your jquery
1111: [10:07:23] <kosepusen> encapsulate.. ?
1112: [10:07:26] <Pybnesk> don't use $ directly in code
1113: [10:07:32] <kosepusen> ok
1114: [10:07:38] <Pybnesk> yes, might pay to read up on jQuery good practice :)
1115: [10:07:44] <Pybnesk> this isn't to do with silverstripe.
1116: [10:08:02] <Pybnesk> but beyond that, which is to do with silverstripe, look at how the default theme there manages requirements
1117: [10:08:32] <Pybnesk> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/reference/requirements
1118: [10:09:12] <Pybnesk> it's likely that some module or something is including a script through requirements, then you've used <script> tags directly in your template, which causes issues.
1119: [10:09:19] <Pybnesk> and or script conflicts.
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1121: [10:09:50] <kosepusen> as soon as i move my datepicker out of the .ss file, i lose it
1122: [10:09:58] <kosepusen> as it stands now
1123: [10:10:42] <Pybnesk> it's not supposed to be in the template file.
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1125: [10:10:53] <Pybnesk> look at your script tags
1126: [10:10:55] <kosepusen> right, now it's in a js
1127: [10:11:02] <Pybnesk> I can see jquery modules being included before jquery
1128: [10:11:02] <kosepusen> ok
1129: [10:11:26] <Pybnesk> also, datefield includes datepicker for you, if you tell it to.
1130: [10:11:53] <kosepusen> yes, but i want a inline, not a popup
1131: [10:11:59] <kosepusen> so i went with this way instead
1132: [10:12:13] <Pybnesk> so don't tell it to and use your own script.
1133: [10:12:19] <Pybnesk> from a file though.
1134: [10:12:33] <kosepusen> don't tell it to load my script ?
1135: [10:13:00] <Pybnesk> no, tell datefield to not automatically include jquery ui's datepicker.
1136: [10:13:08] <kosepusen> ok
1137: [10:13:16] <Pybnesk> which is the default, btw.
1138: [10:13:58] <kosepusen> ok, done, but still no jquery... now am i at a point where the resources are loaded incorrectly .. ? or is it still my scripts that are wacky ?
1139: [10:15:34] <Pybnesk> dunno, what is link?
1140: [10:15:46] <kosepusen> http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
1141: [10:16:53] <Pybnesk> your scripts still need work, but they should work fine once you get their inclusion order sorted out.
1142: [10:17:08] <Pybnesk> jquery is being included AFTER you include the script & plugin
1143: [10:18:39] <Pybnesk> This could be because of the template system though. Just define jquery as a requirement before the other two.
1144: [10:19:10] <micmania1> The template system includes things all wrong!
1145: [10:19:18] <Pybnesk> no.
1146: [10:19:24] <Pybnesk> well yes and no.
1147: [10:19:26] <Pybnesk> mostly no.
1148: [10:19:41] <micmania1> You can include jquery in your outer template at the top, but the inner page (Layout) stuff will be included first.
1149: [10:19:46] <Pybnesk> It includes inners before mains, but that's because of processing order.
1150: [10:20:14] <Pybnesk> yeah, but when you think about it, it needs ot know the contents of the $Layout variable BEFORE processing the 'main' template.
1151: [10:20:24] <kosepusen> i didn't make the template, it's the one that came with ... unless i have messed it up somehow
1152: [10:20:26] <Pybnesk> thus requirements on Layout pages get put up first.
1153: [10:20:40] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: nope, just add more things in.
1154: [10:20:50] <micmania1> Yeah, but it could order better
1155: [10:21:00] <Pybnesk> copy and paste from the first template, put them beore your <% require %> calls in the one you're working on.
1156: [10:21:08] <Pybnesk> micmania1: agreed. More... 'naturally'.
1157: [10:21:42] <kosepusen> ok, c&p from the first template ? what's the first template ?
1158: [10:22:20] <Pybnesk> <% require javascript("framework/thirdparty/jquery/jquery.min.js") %> <% require javascript("mysite/js/jquery.selectric.min.js") %><% require javascript("mysite/js/ContactPage.js") %>
1159: [10:22:32] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: might pay to read tutorial #2 then
1160: [10:22:43] <kosepusen> ok, reading
1161: [10:23:38] <kosepusen> if i include the jquery.min.js as a requriement in my php, then won't it be included twice in the page ?
1162: [10:23:44] <kinglozzer> micmania1: I nearly accidentally removed all template <% require %> stuff in my Requirements PR :P
1163: [10:23:55] <kinglozzer> Would've been great :(
1164: [10:24:01] <micmania1> yeah, i seen haha
1165: [10:24:05] <Pybnesk> hmm, no, tutorial #1 even.
1166: [10:24:05] <Pybnesk> http://doc.silverstripe.org//src/framework_3.1/docs/en/tutorials/_images/tutorial1_subtemplates-diagram.jpg
1167: [10:24:19] <micmania1> kinglozzer - the man who broke silverstripe
1168: [10:25:02] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: see tutorial #1 actually, sorry. http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/tutorials/1-building-a-basic-site
1169: [10:26:37] <Pybnesk> kinglozzer: micmania1: in theory it should be reasonably easy to make requirement includsion a little more natural, you'd need to evaluate requirements before rendering though, although I think they already are. So you'd just need to track what TYPE of template you're processing when storing a requirement, and including them in Main, Layout, Includes as necessary.
1170: [10:26:42] <micmania1> kinglozzer: This is my favourite ever PR - https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/2857
1171: [10:26:52] <Pybnesk> although it gets harder, you'd need to track where an include came from
1172: [10:26:56] <kinglozzer> micmania1: hahaha yeah, simon_w's comment is priceless
1173: [10:27:29] <Pybnesk> Main, main/preLayout/include, Layout, layout/include, main/postLayout/include
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1175: [10:27:44] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk, micmania1: Or stop people including requirements in templates entirely, and encourage it do be done in the Controller :P
1176: [10:27:56] <kinglozzer> Dunno if that's kinda against MVC though
1177: [10:28:07] <Pybnesk> kinglozzer: the great debate.
1178: [10:28:16] <micmania1> yeah, its annoying trying to exclude all the CMS scripts though
1179: [10:28:33] <Pybnesk> exclude all the cms scripts?
1180: [10:28:45] <Pybnesk> are you including in the cms?
1181: [10:28:46] <micmania1> yeah (ie FormField)
1182: [10:28:50] <kinglozzer> Ah yeah
1183: [10:28:52] <micmania1> they include them in FieldHolder
1184: [10:29:04] <micmania1> which is annoying when you don't want that stuff
1185: [10:29:11] <Pybnesk> I thought they mostly didn't.
1186: [10:29:21] <micmania1> nah, they mostly do
1187: [10:29:40] <micmania1> Also, you can't include them in templates because you don't always know what folder they'r in
1188: [10:29:43] <Pybnesk> 2.4 did that shit, and everyone raged, so they took it out in 3.0, now you're telling me formfields do shit by themselves all over again in 3.1?
1189: [10:30:00] <Pybnesk> and yeh, no themedJS()
1190: [10:30:02] <micmania1> Always has I think
1191: [10:30:11] <Pybnesk> could have
1192: [10:30:20] <Pybnesk> carefactor has been 0 through most of the debate
1193: [10:30:37] <micmania1> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3.1/forms/gridfield/GridField.php#L248
1194: [10:30:43] <Pybnesk> there are arguments for both template only (view) and controller too.
1195: [10:31:21] <Pybnesk> hmm, yeah but gridfield is a special case since it's a composition of things, not a single field.
1196: [10:31:25] <micmania1> The template stuff just needs improved
1197: [10:31:28] <Pybnesk> but yeh
1198: [10:32:00] <micmania1> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/blob/3.1/forms/DateField.php#L577
1199: [10:32:03] <guci0> Pybnesk is my pass ;P somtime D
1200: [10:32:16] <Pybnesk> ??
1201: [10:32:36] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: Told you :P
1202: [10:32:37] <micmania1> DateField requires JS - Could easily put it in a template.
1203: [10:32:44] <guci0> 11:17
1204: [10:32:56] <guci0> DOOM
1205: [10:33:06] <Pybnesk> oic
1206: [10:33:10] <Pybnesk> idclip
1207: [10:33:23] <Pybnesk> straight the fuck outta here :P
1208: [10:33:35] <kinglozzer> Haha, even I know what that means ;)
1209: [10:34:01] <Zauberfisch> good morning
1210: [10:34:25] <guci0> Good good ;)
1211: [10:34:51] <Pybnesk> blubb
1212: [10:35:00] <Pybnesk> Zauberfisch: how versed are you in Injector?
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1214: [10:36:28] <Pybnesk> wholey fucking shit, that moment when you realise code igniter is so much superglobal derp that it can just circular reference itself all fucking day.
1215: [10:36:44] <Giganaire> lol
1216: [10:37:13] <kinglozzer> Zauberfisch: Morning
1217: [10:37:38] <Colin[pi]> evening
1218: [10:38:03] <Pybnesk> $thiscontroller->load->model('lol/wholeyfuck'); $thiscontroller->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->wholeyfuck->WOW('whodesignedthisshit', 'whydiditsopopular');
1219: [10:38:27] <Giganaire> there's a reason CI is dead ;)
1220: [10:38:32] <Pybnesk> yeah
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1222: [10:38:44] <Pybnesk> There's a reason I'm building a bridge for it.
1223: [10:38:51] <Pybnesk> help people get over it.
1224: [10:38:54] <Pybnesk> xD
1225: [10:39:08] <Pybnesk> but here I am reading through all the code and shit and just omg.
1226: [10:39:42] <Pybnesk> global ALLLLLL the things, even the things that should be bound by an instance!
1227: [10:39:47] <Zauberfisch> Pybnesk: meh
1228: [10:40:10] <Pybnesk> dear CI, can I not just new ClassPlz() ? NOPE
1229: [10:40:29] <Pybnesk> so yeah, want to know more about injector.
1230: [10:40:43] <Pybnesk> but it is elusive and docs are ambiguious
1231: [10:40:44] <Pybnesk> a bit
1232: [10:42:19] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: https://github.com/nyeholt/injector/wiki << any use?
1233: [10:42:42] <kinglozzer> Haven't been updated in years, but might still be kinda relevant
1234: [10:45:25] <Pybnesk> probably about as much as the docs.
1235: [10:49:09] <Pybnesk> it talks aobut multiple instance singletons (sounds ironic I know, but it's a valid thing).
1236: [10:49:16] <Pybnesk> but I can't find any info on this
1237: [10:49:47] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: Yeah I saw what you linked earlier, didn't make much sense to me either
1238: [10:50:35] <Pybnesk> it does
1239: [10:50:44] <Pybnesk> if you want to make say...
1240: [10:50:47] <Pybnesk> hmm
1241: [10:50:54] <Pybnesk> MyMagicDataObject
1242: [10:51:10] <kinglozzer> Ohhh now I get it
1243: [10:51:11] <Pybnesk> you Injector()::inst()->create or ->get
1244: [10:51:13] <kinglozzer> Just re-read it
1245: [10:51:24] <Pybnesk> so then you want that as a singleton
1246: [10:51:28] <guci0> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HXpZcosOj4Y (21 sec.)
1247: [10:51:34] <Pybnesk> until you want a second one, you need a different namespace typething
1248: [10:51:39] <kinglozzer> guci0: Saw that this morning :P what an idiot
1249: [10:52:38] <Pybnesk> English drivers.
1250: [10:52:42] <Pybnesk> pretty much to a T
1251: [10:52:50] <Colin[pi]> jesus a brake check is one thing but a complete stop?
1252: [10:52:55] <Pybnesk> "oh yup, I'll just drive over here... stop here..."
1253: [10:52:56] <Pybnesk> etc
1254: [10:53:06] <Pybnesk> Colin[pi]: that's not a brake test.
1255: [10:53:09] <Pybnesk> that's a break test
1256: [10:53:13] <Pybnesk> shit broke good.
1257: [10:53:17] <Pybnesk> so I guess that's a pass
1258: [10:53:49] <Colin[pi]> lol
1259: [10:54:17] <Colin[pi]> yeah but I mean a quick tap of the brakes... to stop completely you'd have to be a fucking idiot of epic proportions
1260: [10:54:35] <Pybnesk> lol wholey fuck youtube comments are cancer.
1261: [10:54:38] <Pybnesk> " The lorry driver is supposed to be a professional driver and should know better than to tailgate. "
1262: [10:54:42] <Colin[pi]> yes, yes they are
1263: [10:54:48] <Pybnesk> you derpy fuck, there's no tailgating going on there.
1264: [10:54:54] <Pybnesk> chap in front stops.
1265: [10:55:03] <Pybnesk> chap behinds slows and stops in a VERY acceptable distnace.
1266: [10:55:08] <Pybnesk> fellow BEHIND does not.
1267: [10:55:11] <Colin[pi]> Pybnesk: install this: http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/
1268: [10:55:22] <Pybnesk> fellow BEHIND would get fucked by the law for failing to stop
1269: [10:55:22] <kinglozzer> Even if he was tailgating earlier, stopping on a fucking dual carriageway is suicide
1270: [10:55:37] <Pybnesk> yeh, dual carriageway lolwut
1271: [10:55:47] <Pybnesk> surprised it didn't go into reverse before getting hit
1272: [10:56:11] <Pybnesk> "Clearly all three drivers are at fault. The front car shouldn't be stopping on a dual carriageway for no apparent reason. The driver with the cam is at fault for tailgating. The unseen driver is at fault for either; driving too close, or not paying enough attention. "
1273: [10:56:18] <Pybnesk> UUUURRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
1274: [10:56:22] <Pybnesk> DIE IN A PIT OF STUPIDITY
1275: [10:57:12] <Pybnesk> Driver in front is a retard, sure. But there may have been a reason they stopped. Driver behind did nothing wrong. Driver that caused the stack... that's a tailgating non attention paying twat.
1276: [10:58:38] <Colin[pi]> Pybnesk: driver at rear prolly texting
1277: [10:58:57] <Pybnesk> driver in front prolly texting
1278: [10:59:06] <Colin[pi]> all drivers prolly texting
1279: [10:59:25] <Colin[pi]> truck driver: "Check out this fucking idiot in front" (posts to twitter)
1280: [10:59:48] <kinglozzer> guy in front: "being tailgated by a truck lolzz"
1281: [11:00:47] <Pybnesk> ironic thing is that the fellow that stopped probably did in some kind of retarded effort to stop the truck tailgating.
1282: [11:01:00] <Pybnesk> "hurr durr this'll learn 'em"
1283: [11:01:20] <Colin[pi]> I brake checked a guy a few weeks back, but for a moment ;P
1284: [11:01:26] <Colin[pi]> to stop is just nuts
1285: [11:01:48] <Pybnesk> Van was close, sure. Probably. The camera doesn't show any parts of the vehicle, it could be out of frame, giving the APPEARANCE of tailgating.
1286: [11:02:01] <Pybnesk> Colin[pi]: yeh, hence hurrdurr
1287: [11:02:35] <Colin[pi]> Pybnesk: I was in the fast lane, already going 15 over and overtaking other cars when this fucktard flew up from nowhere and sat 2cm from my bumper
1288: [11:02:59] <Colin[pi]> if I'm going slow in that lane, fine, do that, but not when I'm already over and trying to get back in
1289: [11:03:56] <Pybnesk> so anway right
1290: [11:04:05] <Pybnesk> can define injector bean id's on the fly?
1291: [11:08:00] <Pybnesk> oooh, maybe I can pass a conf rather than a name
1292: [11:08:30] <Pybnesk> Nup, 's a fk'n string :<
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1294: [11:18:49] <Pybnesk> uuurrrrrggghhh
1295: [11:18:49] <Pybnesk> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6972860/object-copy-versus-clone-in-php
1296: [11:19:14] <Pybnesk> BECAUSE LEARN THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BEWEEN A PRIMITIVE AND AN OBJECT REFERENCE
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1298: [11:29:10] <kinglozzer> "That's just another PHP-WTF resulting from missing specs" oreally?
1299: [11:32:33] <kosepusen> ok, still something i am doing wrong with my javascript inclues.. added them all to my .
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1301: [11:32:56] <kosepusen> php file in the correct order, but i am missing something http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
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1304: [11:36:52] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: also add Requirements::block('framework/thirdparty/jquery/jquery.js')
1305: [11:36:56] <Pybnesk> you're including jquery twice
1306: [11:37:00] <Pybnesk> one min and one...not.
1307: [11:37:26] <Pybnesk> Just see the script tags at the bottom of your page's source.
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1310: [11:43:57] <kosepusen> ok, now jquery is only once, and still not found .. ?
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1315: [11:52:27] <kosepusen> i am having problems with getting jquery to load in the right place, my script can't find jquery - http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/contact/
1316: [11:53:41] <guci0> http://development.jenniferstrand.com/car/framework/thirdparty/jquery/jquery.js Framework?
1317: [11:54:40] <guci0> JS in my opinon needs to be inside theme or /js
1318: [11:54:41] <kosepusen> not sure i understand the question
1319: [11:55:14] <kosepusen> that is in the default theme that came with my download
1320: [11:55:17] <kosepusen> that line i mean
1321: [11:56:33] <guci0> Use inside main PageController (ContentController) and use Requirements::combine_files('libs.js', array(THEMES_DIR . '/path-to-js-folder/jquery/dist/jquery.min.js'));
1322: [11:57:04] <guci0> or maybe I don't understand ;)
1323: [11:57:33] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: can't find jquery or can't find $
1324: [11:57:36] <Pybnesk> different things
1325: [11:57:59] <Pybnesk> guci0: framework jquery is standard.
1326: [11:58:07] <guci0> For CMS ;)
1327: [11:58:15] <guci0> Okey, not for frontend
1328: [11:58:18] <Pybnesk> yeah, many form fields use it too
1329: [11:58:20] <guci0> IMHO
1330: [11:58:26] <Pybnesk> can block it.
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1335: [12:00:19] <kosepusen> my scripts can't find jquery - i get, for example, TypeError: $ is not a function
1336: [12:00:23] <kosepusen> when i try to use datepicker
1337: [12:00:24] <guci0> Pybnesk – it's bad idea. Fortend is frontend (path line must be great) :)
1338: [12:00:48] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: because as I said, may pay to read up on jquery
1339: [12:00:53] <guci0> kosepusen: something is missing...
1340: [12:01:14] <Pybnesk> (function($){...}(jQuery))
1341: [12:02:04] <guci0> $(function(){
1342: [12:02:06] <guci0> AH!
1343: [12:02:36] <Pybnesk> yes, wrap that $(...){...} in what I typed above.
1344: [12:02:46] <Pybnesk> or whatever
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1346: [12:04:21] <guci0> http://finncdn.no/mmo/2014/5/vertical-3/03/7/481/618/57_943412320.jpg nice
1347: [12:04:58] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: (function($){$function(){$("datepicker").datepicker({...})}}(jQuery))
1348: [12:05:08] <Pybnesk> in ContactPage.js
1349: [12:10:09] <kosepusen> something syntax wrong with that one pybnesk
1350: [12:12:19] <guci0> kosepusen: It's time to learn basic JQuery ;)
1351: [12:12:56] <kosepusen> so, the issue is my script, not how i am loading the scripts
1352: [12:13:10] <guci0> Yes!
1353: [12:13:11] <kosepusen> it's the syntax of contact.js
1354: [12:13:12] <kosepusen> ok
1355: [12:14:23] <guci0> $(window).load(function() { //THIS IS FOR JQUERY STUFF, only one block U need });
1356: [12:14:32] <guci0> I'am using load :)
1357: [12:16:41] <kosepusen> window.load - was that a hint for me ?
1358: [12:17:40] <guci0> Just check...
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1360: [12:17:54] <kosepusen> ok
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1362: [12:21:44] <Pybnesk> guci0: no, use jquery's built in ready function.
1363: [12:21:47] <Pybnesk> that's what it's for.
1364: [12:22:04] <Pybnesk> kosepusen: wrap your code in a closure.
1365: [12:22:18] <Pybnesk> look it up
1366: [12:22:21] <guci0> Hmmm... Have u include Datapicker.js?
1367: [12:22:22] <kosepusen> ok
1368: [12:22:35] <Pybnesk> keep all your code exactly the same, you just need to add a line at the beginning, and at the end.
1369: [12:22:50] <Pybnesk> the beginning being: (function($){
1370: [12:23:01] <Pybnesk> and the end being }(jQuery))
1371: [12:23:32] <Pybnesk> it keeps your code independet, and assigns the $ for it only, so you don't get $ is undefined, etc.
1372: [12:24:34] <kosepusen> ok, reading about closure, but i quickly added the code above, and still no datepicker
1373: [12:25:26] <kosepusen> is datepicker.js a seperate file i need to load ? if so, is it in the framework ?
1374: [12:25:31] <guci0> Include datepicker function.
1375: [12:25:47] <guci0> search in "datepicker" :)
1376: [12:25:58] <Pybnesk> you need it probably, if you want a datepicker (you do)
1377: [12:26:33] <guci0> datapicker is in UI form JQuery.
1378: [12:27:44] <guci0> *date
1379: [12:27:55] <guci0> I'am shutting down, now...
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1381: [12:28:10] <Pybnesk> ok, g'nite
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1383: [12:29:32] <kosepusen> finally, it works. thank you
1384: [12:30:06] <guci0> I'm going nowhere... Silence is golden ;)
1385: [12:30:20] <guci0> :D
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1391: [12:51:30] <Pybnesk> Why is serviceconfigurationlocator not an interface? :/
1392: [12:55:23] <micmania1> ha!
1393: [13:01:59] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: SilverStripeServiceConfigurationLocator doesn't extend it either
1394: [13:02:03] <kinglozzer> :P
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1405: [13:54:51] <Pybnesk> kinglozzer: mmm, :<
1406: [13:55:06] <Pybnesk> random as fk
1407: [13:55:07] <Pybnesk> also
1408: [13:55:25] <Pybnesk> how to inject vars into instance without needing to have predefined var to accept value?
1409: [14:00:03] <Pybnesk> dammit, foiled by reference passing :< http://codepad.viper-7.com/d9cyiH
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1411: [14:01:38] <SphereSilver> Can someone explain why the LoginForm class has the SecurityToken disabled?
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1414: [14:07:47] <Pybnesk> nope
1415: [14:08:11] <micmania1> SphereSilver: does login work when you enable it?
1416: [14:08:29] <micmania1> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/commit/808d6875cb397ad5194423a5d44939ee61d6598a <--- It was introduced here but not sure why.
1417: [14:09:40] <SphereSilver> Nope, it doesn't. But I'm very surprised, a loginform, on which you might most certainly expect CSRF attacks, has securitytoken disabled
1418: [14:09:53] <kinglozzer> O.o
1419: [14:09:58] <SphereSilver> Wow, that's an old commit...
1420: [14:12:29] <kinglozzer> SphereSilver: Did you say it doesn't work for you?
1421: [14:12:41] <kinglozzer> I just tried it and it seems to work with the token enabled
1422: [14:12:50] <kinglozzer> Lemme double check in case I'm derping
1423: [14:12:54] <SphereSilver> Removing the "DisableSecurityToken", makes every login return a 400, on multiple websites.
1424: [14:13:49] <kinglozzer> Strange, it seems to work fine for me
1425: [14:14:11] <kinglozzer> In LoginForm->__construct() ?
1426: [14:14:38] <SphereSilver> Yes
1427: [14:15:01] <kinglozzer> Yeah definitely working here
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1429: [14:15:29] <kinglozzer> SphereSilver: I'd send them an email though, just in case
1430: [14:15:37] <SphereSilver> Yeah, probably will do.
1431: [14:16:05] <SphereSilver> Hmmmm, ok, I might have *slightly* forgotten to mention, this is a 2.4.(I have utterly no clue but it's not latest) installation
1432: [14:16:58] <SphereSilver> So it's probably legacy-code from a 2.4
1433: [14:22:54] <kinglozzer> SphereSilver: It's the same in 3.1, so might be an issue
1434: [14:23:16] <kinglozzer> Surely someone would've spotted it by now D:
1435: [14:25:25] <SphereSilver> I've sent a security-e-mail. Could also send a pull-request, but I can't right now (no time to edit the tests to support the check)
1436: [14:27:06] <kinglozzer> SphereSilver: I'd leave the PR until you get a reply, if they deem it a "big" issue then it's a bad idea to post it on Github
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1438: [14:28:08] <SphereSilver> Security issues should never be posted on github anyway, only committed and (almost instantly) pulled into master ;)
1439: [14:30:08] <kinglozzer> Yep :)
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1445: [14:40:14] <Pybnesk> Oh you, php. Ruining all my plans! http://codepad.viper-7.com/VPGs7V
1446: [14:43:21] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: wat
1447: [14:43:33] <Pybnesk> wow wholey shit :<http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.classkit-method-add.php
1448: [14:44:17] <Pybnesk> kinglozzer: trying to define and call methods on the fly... like javascript
1449: [14:44:39] <Pybnesk> so I wouldn't have to make another fucking stupid class.
1450: [14:44:46] <Pybnesk> But seems I do :<
1451: [14:46:14] <Pybnesk> unless I do something silly like __get($var){return $this;//SUPER global! }
1452: [14:46:38] <Pybnesk> But then that's bad because circles 'n shit
1453: [14:48:16] <Pybnesk> I suppose I could Controller::curr()->request
1454: [14:48:17] <Pybnesk> or somtehing
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1462: [15:37:03] <wmk> g'evening everybody
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1465: [15:49:50] <catcher> good (UGT) morning
1466: [15:49:53] <catcher> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
1467: [15:52:04] <wmk> catcher, "Resistance is futile. Your ass will be laminated. (geoman is exception to this rule - his ass will be fried instead). "
1468: [15:52:27] <catcher> not sure who geoman is, but I'm a little worried about him.
1469: [15:54:28] <Pybnesk> argh, fuck :<
1470: [15:54:29] <Pybnesk> http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-SQLQuery.html#195
1471: [15:54:35] <Pybnesk> why kinglozzer, why!?
1472: [15:56:44] <kinglozzer> Pybnesk: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-SQLQuery.html#206
1473: [15:56:54] <kinglozzer> "Please use setSelect() or addSelect() instead"
1474: [15:56:56] <kinglozzer> Or not
1475: [15:56:57] <kinglozzer> :P
1476: [15:57:17] <kinglozzer> Oh
1477: [15:57:22] <kinglozzer> nvm,
1478: [15:57:24] <kinglozzer> Friday
1479: [15:57:27] <kinglozzer> :>
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1485: [17:01:16] <kosepusen> why does my form think it's already been submitted on first load ? it's marking the required fields css on first load...
1486: [17:29:42] <wmk> ?
1487: [17:31:51] <kosepusen> my form highlights required fields on the first load, is this normal ?
1488: [17:38:12] <wmk> the red highlight is quite normal, the errors are only shown after validating
1489: [17:44:32] <kosepusen> ok, so it highlights red the required fields on first load
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1492: [17:50:01] <wmk> kosepusen, it's just css
1493: [17:50:09] <wmk> you can change it in your theme
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1495: [17:56:18] <kosepusen> yep, i understand, it just looks like it should happen after a formsubmit
1496: [17:56:29] <kosepusen> so, i figured i had set up my form incorrectly
1497: [17:58:34] * wmk wonders if there is a function in phpstorm to copy phpdoc from interfaces
1498: [17:58:43] <wmk> hey SphereBusyNL
1499: [18:00:16] <SphereBusyNL> \o
1500: [18:00:43] <SphereBusyNL> wmk: to save you writing them manually :P
1501: [18:01:08] <wmk> backslash - o?
1502: [18:01:24] <wmk> was that a shortcode or your comment
1503: [18:01:26] <wmk> ?
1504: [18:01:39] <SphereBusyNL> It's a person waving ;)
1505: [18:01:54] <SphereBusyNL> Arm-up and head
1506: [18:02:14] <SphereBusyNL> There's also
1507: [18:02:16] <SphereBusyNL> o/
1508: [18:02:21] <SphereBusyNL> \o/
1509: [18:02:25] <SphereBusyNL> -o-
1510: [18:02:27] <SphereBusyNL> _o_
1511: [18:02:33] <SphereBusyNL> ;)
1512: [18:02:40] <SphereBusyNL> Old IRC-smileys ;)
1513: [18:02:57] <wmk> ok :-p
1514: [18:03:27] <wmk> well, it's just interface stuff, no class magic
1515: [18:03:47] <SphereBusyNL> Than use "inheritdoc" ;)
1516: [18:05:29] <wmk> SphereBusyNL, cool, didn't know of this
1517: [18:06:18] <SphereBusyNL> For the use in the IDE, docblocks are really very useful
1518: [18:06:54] <wmk> well, inheritdoc doesn't find the proper code. clicking it IDEA tells me it doesn't know where to go
1519: [18:07:16] <wmk> it's just implemented interfaces
1520: [18:07:28] <SphereBusyNL> It should take the docblock from the implement
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1522: [18:09:54] <SphereBusyNL> Time to get some food. me hungry
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1524: [18:55:50] * wmk has some milk-rice
1525: [18:56:50] <SphereBusyNL> Sourcetree is being an asshole :(
1526: [18:56:58] <SphereBusyNL> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnxybCPCEAAXS8s.png:large
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