#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 11 April 2014

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1: [00:03:02] * Ryan-Toast has joined #silverstripe
2: [00:06:17] <antmas> hmmmm
3: [00:10:14] * Azure has joined #silverstripe
4: [00:11:30] <ss23> OH
5: [00:11:34] <ss23> I SEE SIMON_W's GITHUB PICTURE
6: [00:11:53] <simon_w> And then she talks about James!
7: [00:12:01] <Ryan-Toast> link?
8: [00:12:28] <simon_w> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w17JkKurcMo&list=PLb0IAmt7-GS2fdbb1vVdP8Z8zx1l2L8YS
9: [00:12:50] <Ryan-Toast> need dat ?t=, son
10: [00:13:58] <antmas> simon_w: dat sneaky smile you give to the people on the right of you
11: [00:14:16] <antmas> also, classic dev con where it looks like no one is listening
12: [00:16:33] <simon_w> antmas, what sneaky smile?
13: [00:16:47] <simon_w> My github profile pic has me squinting :p
14: [00:18:15] <antmas> simon_w: that youtube clip
15: [00:18:26] <antmas> you look to the right and smile a lot :P
16: [00:19:25] <simon_w> Eh :p
17: [00:20:49] <ss23> simon_w: OMG SHE'S TALKING ABOUT JAMES
18: [00:20:58] <ss23> OMG SHE'S TALKING ABOUT YOU!!!!!!!!!
19: [00:21:00] * ss23 shakes simon_w
20: [00:21:13] <ss23> lol
21: [00:21:14] <antmas> lol ^
22: [00:21:23] <ss23> simon_w is known as the guy who complains and throws bugs at people in HHVM community too...
23: [00:21:28] <ss23> Good, at least it's not just us that simon_w does it to
24: [00:21:29] <ss23> :D
25: [00:21:42] <antmas> :)
26: [00:22:36] <simon_w> Someone's way too excited :p
27: [00:23:27] <ss23> lol
28: [00:23:38] <ss23> OMG SHE'S TALKING ABOUT YOU TWO AGAIN
29: [00:24:42] <antmas> ss23: is now famous by proxy!
30: [00:24:47] <ss23> XD
31: [00:24:49] <ss23> EXACTLY!
32: [00:24:49] <antmas> \o/
33: [00:25:29] <ss23> hmm
34: [00:25:32] <ss23> turns out I can go into overdraft.
35: [00:25:37] <ss23> Like, $130
36: [00:25:53] <ss23> payday today though
37: [00:25:53] <ss23> o/
38: [00:25:59] <ss23> hmm
39: [00:26:04] <ss23> idk how much I can go OD though
40: [00:26:04] <ss23> :
41: [00:26:10] <antmas> overdraft ftw
42: [00:26:24] <antmas> ss23: who're you with?
43: [00:26:39] * DesignerX quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)
44: [00:26:47] <ss23> ASB
45: [00:27:03] <antmas> ss23: then you must have opted for an OD at some point
46: [00:27:14] * terryapodaca has left #silverstripe
47: [00:27:36] <ss23> not sure
48: [00:27:37] <ss23> idk
49: [00:34:22] * Ryan-Toast quit (Quit: Ryan-Toast)
50: [00:34:55] * oddnoc quit (Quit: bye!)
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52: [00:42:31] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: UncleCheese)
53: [00:43:09] <pippy> what is a lazy field on a dataobject?
54: [00:43:31] <ss23> the opposite of a hard working field
55: [00:52:29] <Colin[pi]> badum tish
56: [00:57:09] <Colin[pi]> think it's time to close some firefox tabs, I only have 72 open
57: [01:06:14] * DesignerX has joined #silverstripe
58: [01:09:05] <antmas> I have 1 open :)
59: [01:09:17] <antmas> I have bad tab OCD
60: [01:09:35] <Colin[pi]> antmas: your head would asplode on my pc
61: [01:09:45] <antmas> Colin[pi]: :P
62: [01:09:53] <antmas> I refuse to have any more than 5 open
63: [01:10:02] <Colin[pi]> yeah I need to be more disciplined
64: [01:10:13] <Colin[pi]> besides it makes Firefox use 653TB of RAM
65: [01:10:33] <antmas> hmmmm
66: [01:10:38] <antmas> I need a Friday playlist
67: [01:10:41] <antmas> ss23: halp
68: [01:10:58] <Colin[pi]> IT'S FRIIIDAY FRIIIDAY GET'IN DOWN ON FRIIIDAY
69: [01:11:11] <ss23> lol
70: [01:11:12] <ss23> um
71: [01:11:24] <ss23> I was listening to Mastodon, but now I need something else
72: [01:11:29] <antmas> Colin[pi]: -_-
73: [01:11:34] <antmas> ss23: so was I :O
74: [01:11:38] <ss23> WOAH
75: [01:11:38] <ss23> :O
76: [01:11:41] <ss23> Which album?
77: [01:11:46] <antmas> Leviathan and The Hunter
78: [01:11:49] <ss23> XD
79: [01:11:53] <ss23> I was listening to LEviathan!
80: [01:11:57] <antmas> XD
81: [01:11:59] <Colin[pi]> NOW KISS
82: [01:12:05] <ss23> okay, now lady gaga I think
83: [01:12:09] * antmas makes smooch sound
84: [01:12:18] <antmas> ss23: you fail
85: [01:12:29] <ss23> My trolling not subtle enough? :P
86: [01:12:36] <antmas> :P
87: [01:12:40] <antmas> NEVER
88: [01:13:57] <Colin[pi]> they see me trollin, they hatin
89: [01:14:17] * ss23 headbangs antmas
90: [01:14:26] <ss23> 5 Jahre, L'ame Immortelle
91: [01:16:00] <ss23> fuck the song finished and I haven't picked a new band yet
92: [01:16:13] <ss23> Mudvayne I guess
93: [01:16:23] <ss23> antmas: best mudvayne album go
94: [01:16:38] <ss23> (inb4 lost and found)
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98: [01:31:28] <antmas> ss23: I don't like teh mudvaynez
99: [01:31:41] <antmas> ss23: but if I was to call that, I'd say LnF
100: [01:31:47] <ss23> Psh
101: [01:31:55] <ss23> But so br00tal
102: [01:31:59] <ss23> SUICIDE
103: [01:32:04] <ss23> DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS, MY LIFE, OR ANY OTHER
104: [01:32:06] <antmas> totes br00ts
105: [01:32:52] <antmas> I think I've linked this before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZvKxGKmqg
106: [01:33:31] <antmas> play that in the office ss23
107: [01:33:33] <antmas> :D
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109: [01:41:21] <ss23> lol, you have
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111: [01:42:32] <simon_w> ss23, play it again!
112: [01:43:20] <simon_w> I don't know what it is, but you should play it! :p
113: [01:44:11] <ss23> lol
114: [01:44:14] <ss23> simon_w: You wouldn't like it
115: [01:44:16] <ss23> :P
116: [01:50:27] <antmas> :D
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118: [01:58:01] <simon_w> # hhvm -l hphp/runtime/ext/memcached/ext_memcached.php
119: [01:58:01] <simon_w> Core dumped: Segmentation fault
120: [01:58:01] <simon_w> Segmentation fault
121: [01:58:05] <simon_w> I am skilled!
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124: [01:59:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#2324 (pulls/3.1-gridfield-paging - 2c4ed9d : Damian Mooyman): The build has errored.
125: [01:59:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/commit/2c4ed9d32980
126: [01:59:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/22740594
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128: [02:01:43] <ss23> simon_w: ohhh
129: [02:01:52] <ss23> simon_w: I read the netire PHP implmentation of memcached extension looking for bugs!
130: [02:01:55] <ss23> :D
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135: [02:11:08] <antmas> I should really buy an SSD
136: [02:11:13] <antmas> :|
137: [02:12:20] <Colin[pi]> SSD FTW
138: [02:12:23] <Colin[pi]> so fast
139: [02:12:31] <antmas> I need a new computer really
140: [02:12:35] <antmas> old bastard
141: [02:16:26] <ss23> SSDs really are awesome
142: [02:16:45] <ss23> My upgrade path is "Do you have less than 8 GB of ram? IF so, get at least 8 GB", followed by "Do you have SSD? If not, get SSD"
143: [02:17:08] <ss23> "Google Play allows you to listen to your music on one device at a time. Your music was paused on this device because you recently started listening from another device."
144: [02:17:11] <ss23> No I didn't.
145: [02:17:14] <ss23> wtf
146: [02:17:47] <Colin[pi]> O_o
147: [02:17:57] <antmas> ss23: I'm right at that upgrade situation now
148: [02:18:00] <antmas> 4gb RAM
149: [02:18:15] <antmas> only problem is, finding decent DDR2 RAM is hard now
150: [02:21:35] <antmas> what is that pc build site?
151: [02:21:39] <antmas> with nz prices?
152: [02:21:48] <Colin[pi]> I got to that stage once, where the old ram was more expensive than the newer stuff :(
153: [02:22:05] <antmas> yeah I've let it go too long
154: [02:22:16] <antmas> still in 775 territory
155: [02:22:41] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: what'
156: [02:22:55] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: * what's that PC build site you used recently?
157: [02:22:57] <ss23> antmas: >DDR2
158: [02:22:58] <ss23> damn son
159: [02:23:03] <ss23> antmas: pricespy?
160: [02:23:08] <antmas> ss23: I know :(
161: [02:23:15] <antmas> ss23: boo pricespy
162: [02:23:23] <antmas> but whatevs, I'll trythat
163: [02:25:33] * simon_w quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
164: [02:25:51] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Hmm?
165: [02:26:33] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nevermind, using pricespy
166: [02:26:35] <antmas> :P
167: [02:27:21] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/
168: [02:29:10] <Ryan-Toast> silverstripe.org really needs a freshen up.
169: [02:29:23] <Colin[pi]> it sure does
170: [02:29:42] <ss23> fresh yourself up with a freshup
171: [02:29:43] <ss23> yeah
172: [02:30:00] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: A team here are working on freshing it up literally right now
173: [02:30:00] <ss23> ;P
174: [02:30:10] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: scccrreeeennnnnshot?
175: [02:30:16] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: Um
176: [02:30:20] <ss23> I dunno if I can leak this early...
177: [02:30:23] * ss23 looks around
178: [02:30:26] <Ryan-Toast> lleeeaaaaak
179: [02:30:29] <Ryan-Toast> I won't tell :P
180: [02:30:57] * camfindlay quit (Quit: camfindlay)
181: [02:31:13] <antmas> pm it :)
182: [02:31:16] <antmas> I MUST SEE THIS
183: [02:31:45] <antmas> This
184: [02:31:53] <antmas> this... isn't too badly priced? http://i.imgur.com/lvudNSL.png
185: [02:31:56] <Colin[pi]> ss23: does that include a freshening of .com as well?
186: [02:32:20] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: post it on /r/buildapc
187: [02:32:24] <Ryan-Toast> they will help you out
188: [02:32:30] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: schweet
189: [02:32:32] <antmas> thanks
190: [02:32:46] <Colin[pi]> dat gpu
191: [02:33:09] <ss23> okay guis
192: [02:33:11] <ss23> you got me in trouble
193: [02:33:34] <Colin[pi]> :o
194: [02:33:54] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: How?
195: [02:34:03] <Colin[pi]> prolly cause he said about it
196: [02:34:25] <Ryan-Toast> I don't see why that would get someone in trouble.
197: [02:34:48] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: really? "we are working on Half-Life 3" vs "...."
198: [02:35:05] <Colin[pi]> wouldn't cause a fuss?
199: [02:35:06] <Colin[pi]> ;)
200: [02:35:19] <Ryan-Toast> "Our website is shit, don't tell anyone we're making it better!"
201: [02:35:36] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: done
202: [02:36:31] <ss23> CAM CAME OVER
203: [02:36:33] <ss23> :O
204: [02:36:41] <ss23> AND SO DID ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS DOING THE STUFF
205: [02:36:42] <ss23> ;_;
206: [02:36:42] <antmas> :)
207: [02:36:53] <ss23> :(
208: [02:36:58] <antmas> who narked?
209: [02:37:01] <Colin[pi]> ss23: lol I saw him disappear from IRC after ss23 said
210: [02:37:04] * antmas looks at Colin[pi] >.>
211: [02:37:23] <Colin[pi]> I was like oh shit, Cam going to his desk
212: [02:37:25] <Colin[pi]> lol
213: [02:37:29] <antmas> hahaha
214: [02:37:40] <antmas> I don't get why it's a bad thing
215: [02:37:52] <antmas> OUR OPINIONS MATTER AND WILL HELP MAKE IT MORE GOODER
216: [02:38:10] * antmas looks at madmatt >.>
217: [02:38:18] * antmas -_-
218: [02:38:21] <ss23> The general idea was "But what if they think it's all we'll do and not realise it's a draft!?" or something "IT'S NOT IN ALPHA YET"
219: [02:38:29] <ss23> Kind of like the people who are like "I can't opensource my code until it's perfect!"
220: [02:38:33] <ss23> h8 designers
221: [02:38:54] <Colin[pi]> ss23: don't worry man, we cant wait
222: [02:38:58] <Colin[pi]> *can
223: [02:39:01] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: pfft, I show you guys my half baked shit all the time.
224: [02:39:06] * antmas doesn't go to the .org site
225: [02:39:10] <ss23> lol
226: [02:39:26] <Ryan-Toast> My clients do, and they go…oh it looks goo? I guess.
227: [02:39:28] <ss23> I talked to them for a good 5 mins and got a "WEll if you can convince X person, then sure, you can show them"
228: [02:39:32] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: how many iterations has BP gone through now? :P
229: [02:39:42] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: you shh.
230: [02:39:50] <antmas> :D
231: [02:39:54] <Ryan-Toast> It's so pretty now though.
232: [02:40:01] <Ryan-Toast> wow. Such pretty.
233: [02:40:02] <antmas> ss23: I don't get it, convince who of what?
234: [02:40:44] <antmas> ss23: I'm a client - I should get insider info!
235: [02:40:46] <antmas> :D
236: [02:40:46] <Colin[pi]> antmas: a higher up by the sounds
237: [02:41:12] <ss23> lol
238: [02:41:19] <Ryan-Toast> I'd be happy to critique.
239: [02:41:24] <ss23> "convince the PM that you should be able to show a screenshot"
240: [02:41:37] <Ryan-Toast> To invested parties :P
241: [02:41:54] <antmas> John Key needs to approve it?
242: [02:41:59] <Ryan-Toast> yup
243: [02:42:02] * antmas starts writing letter to Beehive
244: [02:42:08] <Ryan-Toast> he need s alittle blonde girl to help him, too.
245: [02:42:19] <antmas> *tugtug*
246: [02:42:26] * Ryan-Toast oh god
247: [02:42:46] * juliezygote has joined #silverstripe
248: [02:43:09] <juliezygote> just installed a vanilla silverstripe and line 51 of install.php5 has a ^A on it (looks unintentional)
249: [02:43:50] <juliezygote> http://dpaste.com/1776174/
250: [02:44:09] <antmas> dafuq ^^^
251: [02:44:15] <antmas> that's weird
252: [02:44:16] <juliezygote> question is, is this in the official version or have i some how not got the correct data
253: [02:44:37] <Colin[pi]> antmas: last release had a chart1.jpg in the root
254: [02:44:44] <Colin[pi]> temps in NY city
255: [02:44:45] <Colin[pi]> wtf
256: [02:44:48] <antmas> Colin[pi]: @.O
257: [02:45:08] <antmas> ss23: stop putting weird things in the release!
258: [02:45:09] <antmas> :P
259: [02:46:03] <antmas> aweomse
260: [02:46:07] <antmas> awesome*
261: [02:46:14] <antmas> looks like I'll be moving house IN THE RAIN
262: [02:46:21] <antmas> yey
263: [02:46:40] <Ryan-Toast> pay people top do that shit, man.
264: [02:47:28] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: it's not far and their prices are like $1000000000/km
265: [02:47:43] * juliezygote quit (Changing host)
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267: [02:47:59] <Stomach> juliezygote - where did you download it from
268: [02:50:06] <juliezygote> http://www.silverstripe.org/assets/releases/SilverStripe-cms-v3.1.4.tar.gz
269: [02:50:59] <Stomach> hmm i see it there
270: [02:51:06] <antmas> me too
271: [02:51:10] <antmas> just DLd it
272: [02:51:40] <antmas> ss23: but spotted :)
273: [02:51:45] <antmas> bug*
274: [02:52:37] <juliezygote> someone that breached silverstripe with heartbleed accidentally tapped ^A eh
275: [02:52:43] <juliezygote> :D :D
276: [02:52:46] <antmas> lol
277: [02:52:54] <Stomach> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/3027
278: [02:53:10] <juliezygote> haha fuck i forgot this was my nickname
279: [02:53:37] <Stomach> who are you!
280: [02:53:46] <antmas> :O
281: [02:54:47] <juliezygote> ss23's dad
282: [02:55:04] <antmas> lol
283: [02:55:13] <antmas> I'm his other dad
284: [02:55:18] <antmas> #2dads
285: [02:55:39] <juliezygote> i am okay with this development
286: [02:58:02] <Ryan-Toast> Stomach: I'm looking at the merge and it looks like nothing was changed, lol.
287: [02:59:10] <ss23> okay guis
288: [02:59:12] <ss23> I got the go ahead...
289: [02:59:20] <ss23> I can sneak it out later
290: [02:59:21] <ss23> >.
291: [02:59:21] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: awww yiss
292: [02:59:22] <ss23> <.<
293: [02:59:26] <antmas> I should really remove my github repos
294: [02:59:28] <antmas> so bad
295: [02:59:33] <antmas> such n00bness
296: [02:59:51] * antmas holds breath for ss23
297: [03:00:01] <ss23> Ill do it lateR!
298: [03:00:04] * ss23 runs away quickly
299: [03:00:23] <ss23> 14:43:10 < juliezygote> just installed a vanilla silverstripe and line 51 of install.php5 has a ^A on it (looks unintentional)
300: [03:00:39] <antmas> ss23: ffffffffffffffffffff
301: [03:00:50] <ss23> gw fixing
302: [03:01:08] <ss23> fucking hell juliezygote why is this your nick why are you even here
303: [03:01:13] <ss23> WATCH UR MOUF B4 I BAN YOU
304: [03:01:15] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: http://i.imgur.com/Xsmga.gif
305: [03:01:18] <ss23> In fact, WHY ARE YOU EVEN USING THE SILVERSTRIPE?!
306: [03:01:32] <juliezygote> haha
307: [03:01:49] <juliezygote> i got given a job to do the other day and i think silverstripe is worth a poke
308: [03:02:08] <antmas> who is this imposter?
309: [03:02:36] <antmas> sorry, we're not currently accepting people in this channel at the mo
310: [03:02:42] * antmas sticks up nose
311: [03:02:43] <juliezygote> :<
312: [03:02:50] <antmas> lol
313: [03:02:51] <antmas> jk
314: [03:03:01] <antmas> this is the fun house
315: [03:03:08] <Ryan-Toast> ss23: SCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOTSCREENSHOT
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317: [03:05:07] <antmas> ss23: http://giphy.com/gifs/86Ru4rNYwgnok
318: [03:05:43] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/nv4hM.gif
319: [03:06:27] <antmas> post all the gifs!
320: [03:06:36] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/pzMhA.gif
321: [03:09:00] <juliezygote> the comments on that commit are depressing
322: [03:09:45] <antmas> camfindlay: I think ss23 is slacking, he's not at his desk responding! :P
323: [03:10:38] <camfindlay> he’s getting schooled by our sysadmin
324: [03:10:45] <antmas> :D
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326: [03:13:25] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#2327 (3.1 - bd39dc2 : Damian Mooyman): The build passed.
327: [03:13:25] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/36d925543b28...bd39dc2d848d
328: [03:13:25] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/22742781
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330: [03:13:26] <Zauberfisch> what is going on?
331: [03:13:43] <antmas> Zauberfisch: not much, just a bug found in 3.1.4
332: [03:13:45] <Ryan-Toast> ss23 is going to show us a screenshot
333: [03:13:48] <antmas> looks like it just got fixed
334: [03:14:16] <Zauberfisch> the log of the last couple of minutes is pretty weird
335: [03:14:37] <antmas> Zauberfisch: oh, yeah
336: [03:14:38] <antmas> :P
337: [03:14:39] <Zauberfisch> and what is this ss23s dad's buisiness?
338: [03:14:49] <antmas> rofl
339: [03:14:59] <Zauberfisch> yeah
340: [03:15:12] <antmas> idk
341: [03:15:13] <antmas> :O
342: [03:15:24] * CodeTrap quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
343: [03:15:34] <antmas> juliezygote: le fixed?
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345: [03:16:47] <Zauberfisch> I guess I'll just go back to bed, perhaps it makes more sense in a couple of hours
346: [03:17:25] <juliezygote> antmas: i'm too afraid of your software to try it again
347: [03:17:43] <antmas> lol
348: [03:17:45] <Zauberfisch> lol?
349: [03:17:47] <antmas> it's not mine
350: [03:17:48] <antmas> :D
351: [03:18:44] <Zauberfisch> also. yay. camfindlay is on irc
352: [03:18:46] <juliezygote> i'm going to waste the rest of the day crawling github projects looking for abnormal white space characters at line ends
353: [03:19:03] <Zauberfisch> juliezygote: always a good way to spend time
354: [03:19:34] <antmas> so
355: [03:19:35] <antmas> hard
356: [03:19:36] <antmas> to
357: [03:19:37] <antmas> focus
358: [03:19:39] <antmas> on friday
359: [03:19:45] <Zauberfisch> make sure you also reformat other files at random and change tabs=>spaces spaces=>tabs when you make pull requests
360: [03:19:54] <Ryan-Toast> Is it possible to load a template in the CMS, that would have custom forms etc in it?
361: [03:20:11] <Zauberfisch> Ryan-Toast: elaborate
362: [03:20:46] <Zauberfisch> antmas: usualy its not like that with me. but today I am having it super hard
363: [03:20:52] <Ryan-Toast> Zauberfisch: Like extending ModelAdmin but having custom forms in the backend that could handle sending emails + other bs
364: [03:21:07] <Zauberfisch> been in the office for 2 hours now and have produces like 20 lines of code
365: [03:21:27] <Zauberfisch> Ryan-Toast: sure, its possible.
366: [03:21:28] <juliezygote> Zauberfisch: fucking can't stand that
367: [03:21:32] <ss23> 15:10:39 < camfindlay> he’s getting schooled by our sysadmin
368: [03:21:34] <ss23> PLS
369: [03:21:46] <ss23> I was convincing him to upgrade packages of major systems on A friday without any testing
370: [03:21:50] <ss23> protip: succeeded
371: [03:21:50] <Ryan-Toast> Zauberfisch: Do you know of any example code anywhere? I can find stuff for ss2.x but nothing for 3.1.x
372: [03:21:52] <juliezygote> i just found a nice git plugin i've been using for tabs vs spaces bullshit http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=4375
373: [03:21:57] <ss23> bad news: he was right, system currently broken.
374: [03:22:18] <Zauberfisch> Ryan-Toast: swipestripe is probably a good example
375: [03:22:27] <Zauberfisch> or the dashboard module by UncleCheese_
376: [03:22:34] <Ryan-Toast> Zauberfisch: Chuuur
377: [03:22:52] <Zauberfisch> dashboard probably is the better example
378: [03:23:11] <antmas> Zauberfisch: I haven't written anything other than SQL today :|
379: [03:23:13] <antmas> so
380: [03:23:15] <antmas> in other words
381: [03:23:18] <antmas> rough day
382: [03:24:08] <Ryan-Toast> Soooooo, dat screenshoit?
383: [03:25:05] <camfindlay> Zauberfisch yeah I am lurking a bit.
384: [03:26:56] <camfindlay> Ryan-Toast Was just check’n we are all good to post a screenshot. Hopefully get a more official blog post out shortly about it. Long story short finally getting some traction on .org - thing to keep in mind if ss23 posts a screenshot is that it is only wireframe not final design.
385: [03:26:57] <Colin[pi]> antmas: ugh nothing but sql on a friday?
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387: [03:27:15] <Ryan-Toast> camfindlay: Sounds good to me :)
388: [03:27:30] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: thanks Cam, we're curious is all
389: [03:27:30] <camfindlay> key thing is that it has been a complex exercise in information architecture rewroking
390: [03:27:30] <Colin[pi]> :D
391: [03:27:38] <camfindlay> yeah figured :)
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393: [03:27:53] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: can you tell me if a .com reimagining is happening to? or just .org?
394: [03:28:18] <camfindlay> in time
395: [03:28:22] <Colin[pi]> k :)
396: [03:28:48] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: you guys need to add some stuff to that image banner
397: [03:28:49] <camfindlay> focus is on .org for now
398: [03:28:51] <Colin[pi]> like srsly
399: [03:28:52] <Colin[pi]> ;D
400: [03:30:15] <ss23> OKAY GUIS HERE IS THE COMPLETED DESIGNS FOR THE ENTIRE SITES, BOTH .ORG AND .COM
401: [03:30:19] <ss23> :D
402: [03:30:21] <Ryan-Toast> :P
403: [03:30:24] <Colin[pi]> ;P
404: [03:30:59] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/NsmvzCL.gif
405: [03:31:23] <camfindlay> http://ow.ly/vFx3d
406: [03:31:24] <ss23> lol
407: [03:31:34] <ss23> Anyway, re: that bug Stomach rose
408: [03:31:43] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: my eyes
409: [03:31:57] <antmas> That site is beautiful
410: [03:32:04] <antmas> I can see colours!
411: [03:32:06] <camfindlay> you like.
412: [03:32:12] <Ryan-Toast> "Macs are stupid and so is Safari so this sight prolly won't look right through Safari or a Mac." heh
413: [03:32:13] <ss23> I put a comment on it
414: [03:32:14] <ss23> :D
415: [03:32:22] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: LOl
416: [03:32:28] <antmas> that made me chuckle
417: [03:33:29] <Zauberfisch> ah, now I see what all the fuzz is about
418: [03:33:34] <Colin[pi]> so this sight prolly won't
419: [03:33:35] <Colin[pi]> this sight prolly
420: [03:33:36] <Colin[pi]> sigh
421: [03:33:38] <Colin[pi]> *t
422: [03:33:39] <Colin[pi]> lol
423: [03:33:40] <Zauberfisch> the new design
424: [03:33:44] <antmas> Colin[pi]: jesus
425: [03:33:56] <Colin[pi]> yes my child?
426: [03:34:52] <antmas> Colin[pi]: no, your typing
427: [03:34:57] <antmas> :P
428: [03:35:04] <Colin[pi]> it's shit
429: [03:35:28] <Colin[pi]> DONT JUDGE ME
430: [03:35:29] * Colin[pi] cries
431: [03:35:39] * antmas slaps Colin[pi]
432: [03:35:41] <antmas> stahp
433: [03:35:45] * Colin[pi] holds face
434: [03:36:45] <Zauberfisch> well, boring friday. I am going home / back to bed
435: [03:37:06] <Zauberfisch> wake me when ss23 posted that screenshot
436: [03:37:16] <Colin[pi]> OP will surely deliver, let's just wait
437: [03:37:29] <antmas> Colin[pi]: but yeah, SQL all day
438: [03:37:30] <Ryan-Toast> skeleton .gif
439: [03:37:30] <antmas> :|
440: [03:37:40] <Colin[pi]> antmas: puagh
441: [03:37:43] <Colin[pi]> horrible
442: [03:37:51] <antmas> ss23: sauce! I need teh sauce!
443: [03:39:21] <Ryan-Toast> Man, I hate when people you haven't spoken to in forver just start a conversation… yes yes, just get to what you want.
444: [03:40:05] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I had one of those awkward moments earlier where someone calls to tell you IN DETAIL about something broken which has already been fixed
445: [03:40:16] <Ryan-Toast> lol
446: [03:40:18] <antmas> Ryan-Toast:
447: [03:40:20] <antmas> hate that
448: [03:40:23] <Colin[pi]> I'm like "Yes... but.." "Uh huh..." "But..."
449: [03:40:28] <Colin[pi]> "IT'S FIXED"
450: [03:40:31] <Ryan-Toast> Oh, wait here we go: "for my website, how easy would it be for me to edit this template and transfer it on to my website"
451: [03:40:39] <antmas> LOL
452: [03:40:52] <antmas> "how easy is it to steal stuff?"
453: [03:41:46] <Stomach> ss23 commented on my pull request
454: [03:41:49] * Stomach swoon
455: [03:41:51] <Ryan-Toast> It's a theme, so presumably he would buy it.
456: [03:43:20] <pippy> drinking time
457: [03:43:26] <antmas> this heartbleed thing is pretty crazy
458: [03:43:35] <antmas> getting emails from random people reporting it all day
459: [03:45:52] <Colin[pi]> yeah it's nuts
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461: [03:50:15] <jordanmk> does anyone know if SilverStripe's blog module has functionality to allow people to subscribe to the blog, so that they receive an email every time a new blog post is made?
462: [03:50:42] <antmas> jordanmk: never tried, but you can rss it
463: [03:50:46] <antmas> subscribe that way
464: [03:54:12] <antmas> stupid sharepoint
465: [03:54:27] <antmas> have to check .css and .js files in in 2 different places
466: [03:54:28] <antmas> wtf
467: [03:55:27] <Colin[pi]> wat
468: [03:55:31] <Colin[pi]> that's stupid
469: [03:55:50] <antmas> ikr
470: [03:56:01] <Ryan-Toast> ss23
471: [03:56:06] <antmas> check it in in Designer (app) and then check it in again in the CMS backend
472: [03:56:07] <antmas> lame
473: [03:56:21] <antmas> ss23: I NEED THE SCREENIE!
474: [03:59:15] <antmas> thankfully our neckbeards gave us another CPU and it doesn't take 0x10c years to load
475: [04:04:52] <jordanmk> what potential avenues would i have for adding functionality so that a user could enter their email address, then every time a Blog post is made, they receive an email saying there's a new blog post?
476: [04:06:45] <jordanmk> is there anything in SilverStripe that would help in implementing that functionality? seems like it would be very difficult to implement from scratch
477: [04:10:53] <camfindlay> so like a subscribe function? Have a look at the forum module that has the ability to subscribe to threads
478: [04:11:29] <camfindlay> could maybe see how it is implemented there and build an extension for blog module perhaps?
479: [04:11:51] <Colin[pi]> jordanmk: at it's most simple, you could make a small form to record the emails, and extend the blog with event handlers to handle the notification
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481: [04:17:12] <Ryan-Toast> If you submit a theme to SS can it only be files within the theme folder?
482: [04:19:40] <camfindlay> if you want it in addons you’ll need to include a compser.json file ;)
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484: [04:24:31] <Ryan-Toast> camfindlay: I just mean cna a theme have a mini module with it?
485: [04:26:10] <ss23> guis
486: [04:26:12] <ss23> guis I got it
487: [04:26:13] <ss23> ....
488: [04:26:15] <ss23> I got the screenie
489: [04:26:21] * ss23 looks around nervously
490: [04:26:25] <ss23> So you all know the rules, right?
491: [04:26:26] <Colin[pi]> !
492: [04:26:29] <Colin[pi]> no
493: [04:26:31] <ss23> No leaking outside of this room, and no "Oh you should change this"
494: [04:26:34] <Ryan-Toast> Don't play with my emotionss like this, ss23
495: [04:26:46] <ss23> Because one big problem was the "But people will be like 'OH IT LOOKS UGLY' because it's nto done yet!"
496: [04:26:50] <Colin[pi]> ss23: yeah um, but it's logged right?
497: [04:26:51] <ss23> It took a lot of convincing to let this one out
498: [04:26:53] <antmas> loads up reddit in prep
499: [04:26:53] <ss23> Okay I'm going to post it...
500: [04:26:58] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: lol
501: [04:27:06] <ss23> Colin[pi]: This is a screenshot, not the site!
502: [04:27:09] <ss23> I couldn't let you see the *site*
503: [04:27:12] <Colin[pi]> ya I know :P
504: [04:27:18] * antmas moves fingers to ctrl+v
505: [04:27:23] <ss23> okay
506: [04:27:24] <Colin[pi]> but if you want to not have it logged, shouldn't you PM?
507: [04:27:25] <ss23> okay guys.
508: [04:27:26] <ss23> here
509: [04:27:27] <ss23> http://i.imgur.com/nLeETFo.png
510: [04:27:32] <Colin[pi]> FINE
511: [04:27:39] <antmas> PURPLE?
512: [04:27:40] <camfindlay> fyi, ignore the purpleness… it is just there for wireframing ;)
513: [04:27:42] <antmas> ss23: change it pls
514: [04:27:48] <Colin[pi]> ooh modern looking
515: [04:27:50] <antmas> camfindlay: lol
516: [04:28:03] <ss23> OH YOU MOTHER FUCKER antmas
517: [04:28:07] <antmas> :D
518: [04:28:07] <ss23> NO MORE EARLY RELEASES FOR YOU
519: [04:28:08] * ss23 glares
520: [04:28:15] * antmas cries
521: [04:28:17] <camfindlay> this shows the concept rather than the final design etc
522: [04:28:18] <Colin[pi]> antmas: you had one job
523: [04:28:22] * antmas kisses ss23 shoes
524: [04:28:31] * antmas smooch smooch*
525: [04:28:42] <antmas> camfindlay: it's nice!
526: [04:28:44] <ss23> ehhhhhhh >.>
527: [04:28:44] <Colin[pi]> camfindlay: where's the footer?
528: [04:28:46] <antmas> simple
529: [04:29:09] <camfindlay> there is one, this is just the top half of the community landing page
530: [04:29:11] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: is eerily quite
531: [04:29:17] <Ryan-Toast> :P
532: [04:29:39] <Ryan-Toast> My designers ahate me, because I always nitpick their biz.
533: [04:29:48] <Colin[pi]> DESIGNERS HATE HIM
534: [04:29:55] <Ryan-Toast> ONE SIMPLE TRICKL
535: [04:30:04] <Ryan-Toast> They agree with me in the end :P
536: [04:30:30] <Ryan-Toast> I like the direction though, cam
537: [04:30:47] <antmas> camfindlay: what framework is in use there?
538: [04:30:49] <Ryan-Toast> I realise it's a just a wireframe/mockup but I can dig it.
539: [04:30:51] <antmas> looks familiar...
540: [04:31:02] <antmas> oh right,
541: [04:31:02] <Ryan-Toast> must be http://webdough.co.nz/~boilerpl/
542: [04:31:04] <antmas> mockup*
543: [04:31:11] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: MUST BE ;)
544: [04:31:24] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I'm making a newsletter module atm.
545: [04:31:26] <Ryan-Toast> yay
546: [04:31:42] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: Huzzah!
547: [04:31:43] <Ryan-Toast> retty much in parity with the mailchimp module but more user friendly.
548: [04:31:49] <antmas> noice
549: [04:31:51] <antmas> aight
550: [04:31:54] <antmas> I gotta run
551: [04:32:01] <Ryan-Toast> bai
552: [04:32:05] <Colin[pi]> OMG BAI
553: [04:32:07] <antmas> I have some crazy copy/pastas to do
554: [04:32:09] <antmas> ;)
555: [04:32:18] <antmas> later all
556: [04:34:18] <jordanmk> Colin[pi], going back to your suggestion RE: the email subscribe functionality
557: [04:34:47] <Colin[pi]> yeas
558: [04:35:07] <jordanmk> are you recommending that a DataObject of "EmailSubscriber" or something like that is created, and users who put their email into the form have an EmailSubscriber object made for them
559: [04:35:34] <jordanmk> then whenever a Blog post is posted, run a function that goes through every EmailSubscriber and sends an email to each one?
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561: [04:37:10] <Colin[pi]> jordanmk: something like that yes, with attention to efficiency if the db grows large
562: [04:37:28] <Colin[pi]> and extension applied to the Blog so that the mailout is triggered on a new post being published
563: [04:37:57] <jordanmk> i've never done something like that before, how difficult would you say it is to implement that extension?
564: [04:38:11] <jordanmk> 30 mins work or 5 hours?
565: [04:38:54] <Colin[pi]> prolly a couple of hours, depends on the dev
566: [04:39:09] <jordanmk> alright cool, cheers
567: [04:40:55] <Stomach> ideally you want to do that through a third party service like mailchimp or whatever
568: [04:41:03] <Stomach> sending mass emails from a server is generally a bad idea
569: [04:41:15] <Stomach> unless you're routing through google mail or something with postfix
570: [04:41:54] <Colin[pi]> Stomach: would it help perf. to do it with BCC? or you worried more about spam?
571: [04:42:04] <Stomach> more about spam
572: [04:42:48] <Stomach> with an external provider you would simply set a mailing list for the blog announcements, then hook up an onafterwrite or something on the blog which sends an email to that list
573: [04:43:01] <Stomach> and when someone subscribes you just add them to the list
574: [04:43:07] <Stomach> then you don't have to worry about any of it
575: [04:43:17] <Colin[pi]> yeah that's a good idea
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577: [04:54:33] <jordanmk> hmm
578: [04:54:50] <jordanmk> any idea of SilverStripe can integrate with CampaignMonitor to do something like that?
579: [04:55:27] <jordanmk> because the emails would be going out to 1,000+ people
580: [04:55:59] <Stomach> yeah of course it can :)
581: [04:56:14] <Stomach> https://github.com/tractorcow/silverstripe-campaignmonitor/
582: [04:56:28] <Stomach> https://github.com/sunnysideup/silverstripe-campaignmonitor
583: [04:57:34] <jordanmk> excellent
584: [04:57:36] <jordanmk> thanks
585: [05:00:56] <Ryan-Toast> Have a good weeknd, chaps.
586: [05:01:02] <Colin[pi]> bai!
587: [05:01:04] <Ryan-Toast> OFF TO GET SOME BOURBON
588: [05:02:00] <Stomach> bye bye
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600: [07:12:14] * qlex says hi
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602: [07:12:35] <qlex> yesterday i got some help with installing ss on a virtual hosting (quite big polish company)
603: [07:12:42] <qlex> as always, im struglging with polish hosts
604: [07:13:10] <qlex> this time, mysql 5.5 server is running on port 3307 (and not on standard 3306) and there is no way i can provide that change when running install.php
605: [07:14:02] <qlex> is there a way to do it (add port) or should i go with copying over a config.php from a working installation, modify it with db data and create a ss_environment.ss file in the root of my ftp access, and then run dev/build ?
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608: [07:22:07] <qlex> anyone ?
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610: [07:30:07] <mento> hey guys, does anyone know where i can get the google sitemaps plugin for silverstripe 2.3.4.? I know its way to old, but i need this anyway
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613: [07:47:47] <qlex> perhaps i could use sqlite when there's no way i can provide alternative port number for mysql server ?
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615: [07:53:17] <qlex> anyone here ?
616: [07:55:40] <svandragt> mento: you could try the old 0.1.5 release on github, it's the latest release that's SS2.4 compatible: https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-googlesitemaps/tree/85c5cfa89a9c4c773ed3a18e8379d6635c14c491
617: [07:55:51] <svandragt> mento: 4 years old
618: [07:56:13] <mento> yes, saw that version - but it doesn't work since i need it for 2.3.x version :-P
619: [07:56:23] <mento> it's soooooo old!
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621: [07:56:42] <svandragt> mento: 0.1.3 then?
622: [07:56:47] <svandragt> mento: https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-googlesitemaps/releases
623: [07:57:37] <mento> i tried all versions - even the 0.1.0 version but it keeps timing out after installation when i try to load the sitemap.xml file
624: [07:58:57] <mento> think i need to make something of my own for this particular site
625: [07:59:48] <svandragt> mento: think so, I mean I'm struggling with addons just now and I'm on 3.0 instead of 3.1 :)
626: [08:00:22] <mento> svandragt: yeah, i know that feeling
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633: [08:22:07] <micmania1> shhh! he's here!
634: [08:22:13] <kinglozzer> D:
635: [08:22:18] * Pynzk clicks logs
636: [08:22:24] <micmania1> hahaha
637: [08:22:28] <Pynzk> :P
638: [08:22:56] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: There were people yesterday wearing t-shirts with their favourite CDNs on the front
639: [08:23:14] <kinglozzer> Please tell me all web developers aren't like that?!
640: [08:23:24] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: gawd I hope not.
641: [08:23:33] <Pynzk> Maybe that's a reason I'm not a web dev anymore :P
642: [08:23:50] <Pynzk> It's probably becoming a requirement or something stupid.
643: [08:23:54] <kinglozzer> Haha, what are you now then Pynzk?
644: [08:23:56] <Pynzk> BEST PRACTICE
645: [08:24:01] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: systems dev.
646: [08:24:08] <kinglozzer> == sysadmin?
647: [08:24:24] <Pynzk> still using web tech, but just internal tool development.
648: [08:24:31] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: nup. More like app dev.
649: [08:24:39] <Pynzk> but more specialised, not for public consumption.
650: [08:24:45] <kinglozzer> Sounds pretty cool
651: [08:24:53] <Pynzk> It's nice, but no SS :<
652: [08:24:58] <kinglozzer> :(
653: [08:25:01] <ss23> 20:22:57 < kinglozzer> Pynzk: There were people yesterday wearing t-shirts with their favourite CDNs on the front
654: [08:25:04] <ss23> wtf, where?
655: [08:25:09] <Pynzk> with which I could have rebuilt this entire system ground up with by now.
656: [08:25:10] <ss23> That sounds like a Webstock/wdcnz thing...
657: [08:25:18] <kinglozzer> AngularJS day
658: [08:25:24] <Pynzk> it's nt complex
659: [08:25:34] <ss23> lol
660: [08:25:42] <ss23> kinglozzer: You need to understand the kind of people who are using angular...
661: [08:25:45] <ss23> kinglozzer: Yes, they are all like that.
662: [08:26:02] <kinglozzer> ss23: I have to include myself in that now though :( guess I better get shopping
663: [08:26:06] <Pynzk> ss23: wrong. More like webstock maybe, but wdcnz was just cool people hanging out having fun. Unless they were from xero or mozilla. But neither of those are CDN's
664: [08:26:16] * kinglozzer inherited a project with a ton of Angular
665: [08:26:56] <ss23> kinglozzer: XD
666: [08:26:58] <ss23> My condolences!
667: [08:27:20] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: just turn up with "akamai; WHERE IS /YOUR/ GOD NOW1?"
668: [08:27:22] <Pynzk> !*
669: [08:27:28] <kinglozzer> Hahaha
670: [08:27:52] <Pynzk> or: akamai: CDN's are so second tier.
671: [08:27:57] <kinglozzer> Or use svandragt's suggestion. *hand up* "so, uh, what happens if the user disables javascript?"
672: [08:28:04] <Pynzk> hahahahaha
673: [08:28:11] <Pynzk> that would so totally be me.
674: [08:28:18] <Pynzk> I browse with noscript.
675: [08:28:20] <kinglozzer> :P
676: [08:28:23] <Pynzk> or very nearly not at al.
677: [08:28:25] <Pynzk> all*
678: [08:28:46] <Pynzk> Video won't load without flash? GUESS I'M NOT WATCHING IT THEN
679: [08:28:51] <Pynzk> etc
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682: [08:31:00] <micmania1> Pynzk: its sandwich selection time :|
683: [08:31:16] <ss23> Ohhh, so I'm planning on going to Japan :O
684: [08:31:48] <micmania1> ss23: for what?
685: [08:31:53] <ss23> um
686: [08:31:55] <ss23> "holiday" I guess
687: [08:31:56] <ss23> :O
688: [08:32:04] <micmania1> Pynzk: the Godfather doesn't sound THAT good
689: [08:32:20] <Pynzk> micmania1: I like it, and it is good. But it really depends on what you're in the mood for.
690: [08:32:36] <Pynzk> I can recommend the club, although it sounds not so amazing, it is. Or at least was for me, yesterday.
691: [08:32:57] <Pynzk> I'd have it again today probably, but it's FUSH AND CHUPS DAE!#
692: [08:33:34] <ss23> wut r u two talking about?
693: [08:33:37] <ss23> Booger Foods?
694: [08:33:41] <ss23> Burger Fuel*?
695: [08:33:49] <Pynzk> sandwiches.
696: [08:33:57] <micmania1> sliced roast beef,sliced cheese,fire roasted red peppers,red onion,wholegrain mustard & iceberg lettuce...
697: [08:34:01] <micmania1> Beefy jack ^^
698: [08:34:09] <Pynzk> that sounds good.
699: [08:34:13] <Pynzk> have not tried it.
700: [08:34:27] <ss23> micmania1: ...
701: [08:34:28] <micmania1> ohhhh! Portuguese Chicken: sliced chicken breast,tomato,red onion,jalapeno's,piri piri sauce & iceberg lettuce...
702: [08:34:29] * ss23 giggles
703: [08:34:32] <Pynzk> French Connection is plain but nice if you're in the mood for something decidant (dat brie)
704: [08:34:34] <ss23> I'll give you a 'beefy jack' :3
705: [08:34:59] <micmania1> It doesn't sound as nice in that context :(
706: [08:35:05] <Pynzk> haha
707: [08:35:21] <Pynzk> gawd, it's like that jerky company in NZ "Jack links"
708: [08:35:33] <ss23> Pynzk: jack links?
709: [08:35:50] <Pynzk> but the logo looks like 'jacks junk' and the title of the products are 'beef stick' or 'beef bar'
710: [08:36:02] <ss23> XD
711: [08:36:18] <Pynzk> because of font choice, it's amusing and distrubing at the same time.
712: [08:36:41] <Pynzk> micmania1: I've tried the mississippi, it's nice but probably wouldn't recommend it so much.
713: [08:37:06] <micmania1> I'm going Portuguese!
714: [08:37:11] <Pynzk> same with italian stallion, but that's because I'm not such a fan of sweet vinegar dressings (like dijonaise or whatever)
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716: [08:37:58] <ocm> howdy
717: [08:38:00] <Pynzk> New Yorker was the one I tried the other day, it was nice for a change. Focus on mustard rather than tomatos.
718: [08:38:08] <Pynzk> Hambo is good too, but haven't had it much for some reason.
719: [08:38:42] <Pynzk> Tell me how the Portuguese Chicken goes, it looks like I should perhaps try it next week :>
720: [08:41:08] <svandragt> kinglozzer: you look all angular now
721: [08:41:21] <Pynzk> A bit rough around the edges.
722: [08:43:06] <svandragt> noscript discriminiation is the new blind people don't buy tvs 'argument' against making websites accessible
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724: [08:44:16] <Pynzk> ha
725: [08:44:28] <Pynzk> I think it's ignored out of convenience and lazyness more.
726: [08:44:29] <svandragt> what happens to IE users when you forget to remove all console.logs, or trigger a js implementation bug in a certain browser: oh yeah no javascript, no framework, no app then. progressive enhancement!
727: [08:44:41] <Pynzk> haahhaha
728: [08:46:27] <Pynzk> I hate how JS is used as a crutch to enable lazyness when css or just not being shit at html would be better.
729: [08:46:34] <Pynzk> always have.
730: [08:47:21] <Pynzk> To the point where I once built a lightbox style site that worked entirely without javascript.
731: [08:47:26] <svandragt> <span aria-role="button" class="no really">click here</span>
732: [08:47:57] <svandragt> anyways ranting about it isn't helping anyone :) sorry
733: [08:48:08] <Pynzk> nah, I love it.
734: [08:48:46] <Pynzk> Aria is cool, but only if you're going out of your way to customise form rendering to the point where css on existing elements can't suffice :<
735: [08:49:14] <Pynzk> I think better css might have been nicer, shadow DOM stuff.
736: [08:49:17] <Pynzk> perhaps.
737: [08:55:35] <svandragt> I notice there is no geolocation addon, is it too trivial or would anyone be interested in my implementation?
738: [08:55:47] <Pynzk> I think there is one...
739: [08:56:00] <Pynzk> but there's nothing stopping you putting yours out there too :>
740: [08:56:09] <Pynzk> it might be nicer.
741: [08:56:11] <svandragt> I found silverstripe/personalisation but its implemented so generally that I have no clue what they're doing :)
742: [08:56:23] <svandragt> tracking stores and contexts wut
743: [08:56:23] <Pynzk> haha, typical tbh :P
744: [08:56:49] <Pynzk> yeah, it was probably originally used for a specific purpose rather than general, and hasn't been tidied much since inception.
745: [09:10:59] <svandragt> $geo = new GeolocationService();
746: [09:10:59] <svandragt> $is_international = !$geo->fromCountry('GB');
747: [09:11:09] <svandragt> Doesn't get easier
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749: [09:15:20] <guci0> Hello World!
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751: [09:18:58] <Pynzk> nice svandragt, you should definitely publish it
752: [09:19:03] <Pynzk> Kia Ora guci0
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758: [09:28:55] <svandragt> loading a cookie value would be faster than loading the contents of a file and unserializing it right?
759: [09:29:22] <svandragt> got to be surely
760: [09:29:24] <Pynzk> probably, since cookie data is already in memory
761: [09:29:33] <Pynzk> with all request info.
762: [09:29:43] <svandragt> good point
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764: [09:33:23] <qlex> coming again with the same question, maybe now there's somebody to help
765: [09:33:35] <qlex> i need to install silverstriupe to my sql 5.5 but on 3307 instead of 3306.
766: [09:33:38] <qlex> how do i do it best ?
767: [09:34:31] <Pynzk> use an _ss_environment.php file like micmania1 said yesterday.
768: [09:34:45] <Pynzk> or otherwise adapt your db config to include the port param.
769: [09:35:25] <micmania1> qlex: did you copy over your config file from another project?
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771: [09:41:20] <micmania1> qlex: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5347b5d6f1609
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773: [09:42:36] <micmania1> qlex: There's two files there. The first is _config.php which should go in your project (mysite) folder.
774: [09:42:59] <micmania1> The second is the _ss_environment.php file which should stay outside of your public_html folder
775: [09:43:01] <micmania1> 1 level up
776: [09:45:52] <qlex> micmania1: i tried that yesterday (ss_evironment was a bit different than your proposal and was located in root of that ftp)
777: [09:46:15] <qlex> since im trying to install ss in subdir of root ftp access, will i move ss_environment to root ? (i.e. 1 level up ?)
778: [09:46:31] <micmania1> 1 level above your public folder
779: [09:46:40] <qlex> have no access there !
780: [09:47:06] <qlex> that's why im installing ss to snipe.com.pl/2014/ but can upload the ss_environemtn to snipe.com.pl
781: [09:47:08] <micmania1> ok, put it in your public folder. That will still work but its not the most secure
782: [09:47:09] <qlex> would that do ?
783: [09:47:20] <qlex> ok, i will try that
784: [09:47:31] <qlex> what permissions to that file and will i go dev/build after that ?
785: [09:47:56] <micmania1> 644 I think. And yes, dev/build?flush=1
786: [09:48:37] <guci0> qlex: http://snipe.com.pl/2014/install.php update framework ;)
787: [09:48:44] <guci0> com.pl :)
788: [09:52:02] <qlex> guci0: ?
789: [09:53:17] <guci0> http://snipe.com.pl/gfx/111.jpg :)) Mazury
790: [09:53:51] <Pynzk> qlex: micmania1: _ss_environment.php can go in ss's root, or anywhere above it (where the web user can read).
791: [09:54:22] <Pynzk> so long as the web/php user can read the file, it should be used.
792: [09:54:39] <Pynzk> provided the _config.php also has configure from env statement in it.
793: [09:54:44] <Pynzk> otherwise nothing happens at all.
794: [09:54:53] <qlex> guci0: i dont understand what do you mean ?
795: [09:55:35] <Pynzk> qlex: I think he's pointing to the fact that you're using 3.1.2 and 3.1.3 is out.
796: [09:55:37] <Pynzk> or something.
797: [09:55:39] * Pynzk shrugs
798: [09:56:05] <micmania1> 3.1.4 now
799: [09:56:44] <Pynzk> oh, so it is.
800: [09:56:46] <Pynzk> oops :<
801: [09:57:14] <micmania1> qlex: did it work?
802: [09:57:20] <qlex> doing it now
803: [09:57:29] <qlex> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[dirname(__FILE__) . '/public_html'] = 'http://www.snipe.com.pl/2014'; ?
804: [09:57:36] <micmania1> correct
805: [09:57:37] <qlex> is that ok, should i also change the /public_html ?
806: [09:57:55] <qlex> i think they are using differnet
807: [09:57:58] <micmania1> change the key to the root to your public folder
808: [09:57:59] <qlex> /home/polaczyk/ftp/snipe.com.pl/2014
809: [09:58:03] <micmania1> yes
810: [09:58:20] <Pynzk> tak
811: [09:58:41] <micmania1> also, you can delete the $dbSuffix variable when you get to it (something we use in house I forgot to remove).
812: [10:00:33] <Pynzk> by 'we' you mean 'you' right micmania1 ? :P
813: [10:00:45] <qlex> anything else ?
814: [10:00:48] <Pynzk> or rather 'I' :P
815: [10:00:49] <qlex> change the public_html ?
816: [10:00:50] <micmania1> nah, 'we' lol
817: [10:00:53] <Pynzk> haha
818: [10:01:11] <Pynzk> qlex: well it must match the root of your ss dir from /
819: [10:01:18] <Pynzk> file system wise, not web root size.
820: [10:01:24] <Pynzk> err, wise*
821: [10:01:32] <micmania1> We all use the same db server which can get messy so we automatically append the server name to the db name
822: [10:01:46] <micmania1> so we have separate db's
823: [10:02:54] <Pynzk> We just didn't have a local server. Everyone dev'd on their own machines.
824: [10:02:57] <Pynzk> at my old job.
825: [10:03:14] <qlex> so if i see in install.php information that there's something like
826: [10:03:15] <qlex> /home/polaczyk/ftp/snipe.com.pl/2014
827: [10:03:16] <Pynzk> the 'dev' server was the production server, just before records got changed, pointed live, etc.
828: [10:03:32] <qlex> and when i access the ftp, i get to snipe.com.pl (not 2014)
829: [10:03:34] <qlex> what do i put
830: [10:03:40] <Pynzk> qlex: no, when you use environment.php, you don't use the installer.
831: [10:03:41] <Pynzk> ever.
832: [10:03:49] <Pynzk> ignore, nay, delete install.php
833: [10:03:57] <qlex> i know
834: [10:04:07] <qlex> but im saying what should i replace 'public_html" with ?
835: [10:04:15] <qlex> in this line:
836: [10:04:16] <qlex> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[dirname(__FILE__) . '/public_html'] = 'http://www.snipe.com.pl/2014';
837: [10:04:34] <Pynzk> just change that whole thing to __DIR__
838: [10:04:52] <Pynzk> well 'whole': 'dirname(__FILE__) . '/public_html''
839: [10:05:08] <Pynzk> change all that to __DIR__
840: [10:05:30] <qlex> so
841: [10:05:40] <qlex> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[__DIR__) . '/public_html'] = 'http://www.snipe.com.pl/2014';
842: [10:05:41] <qlex> ?
843: [10:05:51] <Pynzk> __DIR__ The directory of the file. If used inside an include, the directory of the included file is returned. This is equivalent to dirname(__FILE__). This directory name does not have a trailing slash unless it is the root directory. (Added in PHP 5.3.0.)
844: [10:05:52] <qlex> im a bit confused, neverl played with ss_einvornment
845: [10:06:08] <Pynzk> qlex: yes, but this is not evironment stuff, this is filesystem and php stuff.#
846: [10:07:19] <Pynzk> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[$the_folder_this_install_is_in_from_root] = $website_it_represents_usual_domain_its_accessed_through
847: [10:07:21] <Pynzk> that's it.
848: [10:07:34] <Pynzk> get it?
849: [10:07:44] <Pynzk> or should I find a better way to explain :<
850: [10:07:46] <qlex> i left
851: [10:07:46] <qlex> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[__DIR__ . '/public_html'] = 'http://www.snipe.com.pl/2014';
852: [10:07:51] <Pynzk> yes but that's wrong.
853: [10:07:56] <qlex> aha
854: [10:08:00] <Pynzk> look
855: [10:08:01] <Pynzk> __DIR__ The directory of the file. If used inside an include, the directory of the included file is returned. This is equivalent to dirname(__FILE__). This directory name does not have a trailing slash unless it is the root directory. (Added in PHP 5.3.0.)
856: [10:08:13] <qlex> $_FILE_TO_URL_MAPPING[__DIR__ . '/2014'] = 'http://www.snipe.com.pl/2014';
857: [10:08:24] <Pynzk> yeah, that looks better :>
858: [10:08:25] <qlex> im close, but not close enought rite ?
859: [10:08:32] <Pynzk> well, shoud probably be fine
860: [10:08:33] <Pynzk> I think
861: [10:08:41] <qlex> let me dev/build
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863: [10:09:02] <Pynzk> qlex: file to URL mapping is 100% irrelevant anyway unless you're using command line access.
864: [10:09:06] <Pynzk> like a cron job or such.
865: [10:09:17] <qlex> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ')' in /home/polaczyk/ftp/snipe.com.pl/_ss_environment.php on line 42
866: [10:09:19] <Pynzk> you could just leave the entire line out if there's not going to be anything
867: [10:09:46] <micmania1> qlex: is _ss_env is in your public folder then just use dirname(__FILE__)
868: [10:10:00] <Pynzk> micmania1: __DIR__
869: [10:10:13] <Pynzk> dirname(__FILE__) is an old 5.2 hack.
870: [10:10:16] <Pynzk> err, work around.
871: [10:10:30] <qlex> looks like im missing some )
872: [10:10:39] <Pynzk> qlex: or rather have too many perhaps.
873: [10:11:07] <qlex> timezone
874: [10:11:31] <qlex> how do i put it ?
875: [10:11:48] <Pynzk> I dunno, http://php.net/timezone
876: [10:12:38] <qlex> hah
877: [10:12:38] <micmania1> qlex: just put your timezone string in. Mine was "Europe/London"
878: [10:12:43] <qlex> EUROPE
879: [10:13:00] <qlex> waitingi...
880: [10:13:03] <micmania1> http://www.php.net/manual/en/timezones.europe.php
881: [10:13:04] <qlex> Database build completed! :)
882: [10:13:19] <Pynzk> :>
883: [10:13:24] <qlex> http://snipe.com.pl/2014/'
884: [10:13:28] <qlex> looks good
885: [10:13:41] <qlex> was that that easy
886: [10:13:52] <qlex> now i would need to somehow move the ss_environemtn out of public_html ?
887: [10:14:00] <qlex> or send to hosting company and ask to move one level up ?
888: [10:14:06] <qlex> so its not visible from ftp ?
889: [10:14:08] <Pynzk> the environment isn't much more than the old $databaseConfig = <arrayofstuff>, it just abstracts it so you can do things like commit the config to repo but not the config stuff (so it won't mess stuff up when you push, etc)
890: [10:14:29] <micmania1> qlex: if you can, yes do it
891: [10:14:29] <Pynzk> qlex: you don't need to move the environment file, no.
892: [10:14:42] <Pynzk> but generally people prefer to for 'safety'.
893: [10:14:42] <micmania1> Should never store database details in the public folder
894: [10:14:45] <svandragt> SvDGeolocationService: a minimal wrapper https://gist.github.com/svandragt/10455833
895: [10:15:21] <qlex> must this file stay tehre forever ?
896: [10:15:23] <Pynzk> cool svandragt :>
897: [10:15:27] <Pynzk> qlex: yes.
898: [10:15:35] <Pynzk> it's part of the system.
899: [10:15:36] <qlex> can i change admin settings and then remove the old ones from there at least ?
900: [10:15:39] <Pynzk> just like _config.php
901: [10:15:49] <Pynzk> qlex: well yes.
902: [10:15:50] <Pynzk> of course.
903: [10:15:51] <qlex> but in config one sees db settings too
904: [10:16:02] <qlex> but what should stay is db details rite ?
905: [10:16:04] <Pynzk> qlex: delete them.
906: [10:16:29] <Pynzk> qlex: delete all database config stuff from _config.php, leave them in environment, yets.
907: [10:16:36] <kinglozzer> Depends on your setup - we only have database name in _config.php, everything else is in _ss_environment.php
908: [10:16:42] <qlex> ok
909: [10:16:49] <qlex> what's funny is that i cannot access cms
910: [10:16:56] <qlex> when typing in credentials i used in ss_environemtn
911: [10:16:59] <Pynzk> qlex: and please, read this to help you understand :> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/environment-management
912: [10:17:01] <qlex> it brings me back to entry
913: [10:17:06] <qlex> but with no error
914: [10:17:19] <Pynzk> qlex: because there's no user.
915: [10:17:21] <Pynzk> probably.
916: [10:17:25] <kinglozzer> qlex: Did you use Security::setDefaultAdmin() in _ss_environment.php?
917: [10:17:31] <Pynzk> at all. you didn't use the installer.
918: [10:17:33] <kinglozzer> Or are you trying to log in with your database credentials? :P
919: [10:17:47] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: well you should never use Security::setDefaultAdmin in _ss_environment.php
920: [10:17:53] <Pynzk> but there are equivalents.
921: [10:17:56] <qlex> kinglozzer: no
922: [10:18:01] <qlex> just have this define('SS_DEFAULT_ADMIN_USERNAME...
923: [10:18:08] <micmania1> qlex, there is a default user set
924: [10:18:18] <micmania1> but it will only activate when you are in dev mode
925: [10:18:19] <Pynzk> qlex: you need to use those credentials, log in, MAKE an admin user, THEN delete the details from the file.
926: [10:18:23] <qlex> micmania1: thats the user i set up in ss and this is the one im trying to use
927: [10:18:36] <micmania1> To get in dev mode add your server name to the $devServers array
928: [10:18:44] <micmania1> php_uname('n');
929: [10:22:22] <qlex> i changed the line with that condition to just
930: [10:22:22] <qlex> else
931: [10:22:23] <qlex> {
932: [10:22:23] <qlex> define('SS_ENVIRONMENT_TYPE', 'dev');
933: [10:22:27] <qlex> but still, cant get to cms
934: [10:22:37] <qlex> using the credentials from ss_environment
935: [10:22:49] <micmania1> because the credentials are set in the if statement above!
936: [10:23:03] <micmania1> change the file back
937: [10:23:23] <qlex> ?
938: [10:23:27] <micmania1> echo out the value of php_uname('name') and add the value to your $devServers array
939: [10:24:54] <micmania1> Then dev/build?flush=1 and you'll be able to log in
940: [10:25:02] <qlex> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/5347c01b056e7
941: [10:25:05] <qlex> where ?
942: [10:25:37] <micmania1> where it says $devServers = array("MyDevServer")
943: [10:25:56] <micmania1> Change it to the name of your server
944: [10:26:11] <micmania1> aka the value of php_uname('n')
945: [10:26:14] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
946: [10:26:24] <Pynzk> currently line 14 is blank.
947: [10:26:46] <qlex> what do i cahnge ?
948: [10:26:52] <micmania1> no, don't do that
949: [10:26:55] <qlex> name opf my server ?
950: [10:27:06] <micmania1> qlex: you need to know the name of your server
951: [10:27:10] <Pynzk> qlex: yes, the machine name.
952: [10:27:17] <micmania1> have you echoed out php_uname('n') yet?
953: [10:27:18] <qlex> do i get this from hosting company ?
954: [10:27:26] <Pynzk> qlex: the line above.
955: [10:27:28] <qlex> micmania1: didnt change anything yet
956: [10:27:32] <Pynzk> [11:26] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
957: [10:27:32] <Pynzk> [11:26] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
958: [10:27:33] <Pynzk> [11:26] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
959: [10:27:33] <Pynzk> [11:26] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
960: [10:27:33] <Pynzk> [11:26] <Pynzk> qlex: line 14 = $devServers[] = php_uname('n');
961: [10:27:36] <micmania1> nooooooooooo
962: [10:27:40] <qlex> hahah
963: [10:27:41] <micmania1> don't do that Pynzk
964: [10:27:50] <micmania1> That will put live sites in dev mode too
965: [10:27:52] <qlex> havent seen such active discussion on #silverstripe for some time now :)
966: [10:28:00] <Pynzk> micmania1: ha, fair.
967: [10:28:26] <micmania1> qlex: die(php_uname('n')); // WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS????
968: [10:28:48] <qlex> what do you want me to do ?
969: [10:29:03] <Pynzk> qlex: ok, line 14: die(php_uname('n'));
970: [10:29:09] <micmania1> Tell me the output of that!!
971: [10:29:11] <Pynzk> then refresh your site in the browser.
972: [10:29:15] <Pynzk> read the output.
973: [10:29:18] <Pynzk> copy the out put.
974: [10:29:34] <Pynzk> paste the output in to a string on line 12
975: [10:29:38] <Pynzk> remove the code from line 14
976: [10:29:41] <Pynzk> ???
977: [10:29:43] <Pynzk> profit
978: [10:29:50] <Pynzk> *fingers crossed*
979: [10:29:51] <qlex> cool
980: [10:29:57] <qlex> yes, now i guess remove the die line
981: [10:30:02] <Pynzk> yes
982: [10:30:09] <micmania1> what is the value??
983: [10:30:19] <qlex> woohoo
984: [10:30:20] <qlex> i got it
985: [10:30:22] <qlex> i got in
986: [10:30:23] <Pynzk> :)
987: [10:30:24] <qlex> in cms now
988: [10:30:26] <Pynzk> :D
989: [10:30:36] <qlex> this was a very hard lesson, considering im just a hobbyist in terms of webdesign
990: [10:30:44] <qlex> more into business side :)
991: [10:30:54] <qlex> big thank you to all of you
992: [10:30:59] <qlex> i love coming over to #silverstripe
993: [10:31:46] <qlex> now, onto adding modules, and content
994: [10:32:21] <Pynzk> qlex: now, go to security tab, add an admin user with the same details you've logged in with.
995: [10:32:54] <Pynzk> if this is to be the live server (in production) go and comment out line 12 (the string with your server name in it).
996: [10:33:03] <Pynzk> otherwise the site will always be in dev mode, which is bad.
997: [10:33:17] <Pynzk> either way, you need to add an admin user.
998: [10:33:24] <Pynzk> into the database.
999: [10:35:30] <qlex> hmm
1000: [10:35:34] <qlex> im getting internal server error now
1001: [10:35:44] <qlex> after that i added htpasswd security
1002: [10:36:04] <Pynzk> why?
1003: [10:36:16] <qlex> dont know
1004: [10:36:34] <qlex> stops working when i add in htaccess the htpasswd security
1005: [10:37:53] <Pynzk> probably because you've misspelt it or something
1006: [10:37:57] <Pynzk> check the apache log
1007: [10:38:33] <micmania1> qlex: don't need to do it through htpasswd
1008: [10:38:40] <svandragt> qlex: maybe it's better to read up a bit more on the SilverStripe so that it's clearer what's going on for you, otherwise you will keep having problems every few minutes?
1009: [10:39:09] <micmania1> on _config.php call BasicAuth::protect_entire_site()
1010: [10:39:18] <qlex> svandragt: i promise to do it, once i find time for it :)
1011: [10:39:25] <micmania1> Then you can login using your admin details
1012: [10:40:07] <svandragt> qlex: if you keep running into issues you'll never have time for it :)
1013: [10:40:18] <Pynzk> ha, that's a point.
1014: [10:40:48] <Pynzk> qlex: you're a smart chap, I know. You used to be quite with it a few years back. I guess you're out of practice being a hobby for you and all :>
1015: [10:41:05] <qlex> Pynzk: lol
1016: [10:41:12] <Pynzk> apache log will tell you what's wrong when you get a non-ss driven 500 error.
1017: [10:41:59] <Pynzk> tail -n1 /var/log/apache/error.log (or somtehing like that)
1018: [10:42:48] <Pynzk> You'll get it back :>
1019: [10:43:59] <qlex> if i would have access to ssh, then yes
1020: [10:44:41] <Pynzk> oh, well shared hosts often give you a panel of sorts, and often your log is accessible through that.
1021: [10:44:48] <Pynzk> cpanel, plesk, etc.
1022: [10:45:12] <qlex> will ask my friend to give me access to ti
1023: [10:45:14] <qlex> it*
1024: [10:45:24] <qlex> i really much appreciate your help guys
1025: [10:45:49] <guci0> :)
1026: [10:46:21] <Pynzk> You're welcome qlex :)
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1029: [10:53:04] <micmania1> qlex: Did you try my BasicAuth solution instead?
1030: [10:54:31] <qlex> will try in a moment
1031: [10:54:37] <qlex> instead of P i got a smiley in your code :)
1032: [10:54:40] <qlex> uploading stuff now
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1034: [11:00:39] <Fisix_AIX> Hello, in my view function in a page controller why does $this->ID return "-1" ?
1035: [11:05:14] <guci0> is record seved?
1036: [11:06:05] <Fisix_AIX> Yes
1037: [11:06:26] <Fisix_AIX> I can get $this->Title and other things fine
1038: [11:06:28] <qlex> micmania1: your protect_entire_site() works like a charm
1039: [11:06:35] <qlex> i understand all admins can enter ?
1040: [11:06:42] <micmania1> yes
1041: [11:12:42] <qlex> just one question now in cms
1042: [11:13:00] <qlex> when i change the Name of page, in some hostings the URL segment changes automatically
1043: [11:13:15] <qlex> and here i need to press Update button
1044: [11:13:25] <qlex> is this normal behavious or sign that hosting has problems /
1045: [11:15:23] <Pynzk> qlex: that's all javascript based.
1046: [11:15:27] <Pynzk> nothing to do with host.
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1053: [12:06:39] <Pynzk> 'origin' flavour. Dafuq kind of fruit is an 'origin'? :P
1054: [12:07:09] <Pynzk> hopefully this can of crap can stave off fish and chips induced siesta time kinglozzer :P
1055: [12:11:43] * qlex says thank you again and logs out
1056: [12:13:12] <Pynzk> :)
1057: [12:13:34] * Pynzk googles 'take care' in Polski
1058: [12:14:07] <Pynzk> zadbać
1059: [12:14:07] <Pynzk> ?
1060: [12:14:09] <Pynzk> :>
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1063: [12:19:12] <micmania1> I REALLY want to go to the pub right now
1064: [12:19:32] <Pynzk> haha
1065: [12:19:34] <Pynzk> :>
1066: [12:19:50] <Pynzk> midday pub is a normal thing here?
1067: [12:19:53] <micmania1> If I was freelance I think i'd spend all my time there
1068: [12:20:01] <micmania1> any time pub is normal thing here
1069: [12:20:10] <Pynzk> heh, not much lancing in that that freedom, haha
1070: [12:20:14] <micmania1> the ealier you are the luckier in my opinion
1071: [12:20:21] <Pynzk> heh. Pub is generally an evening thing in NZ
1072: [12:20:40] <Pynzk> we've more of a bar culture, rather than 'pub' style.
1073: [12:20:43] <micmania1> Its a "I'm not at work" thing over here
1074: [12:20:46] <Pynzk> heheh
1075: [12:20:50] <Pynzk> true dat.
1076: [12:21:05] <micmania1> Do NZers drink a lot?
1077: [12:21:18] <Pynzk> fuck yes, but more bingey rather than just any time.
1078: [12:21:33] <Pynzk> as in, don't drink much in the week, but then will have a crate or two in the weekend.
1079: [12:21:45] <Pynzk> depending on the type of fellow you are.
1080: [12:22:01] <Pynzk> but generally Friday & Saturday get pretty pumping.
1081: [12:22:22] <qlex> Pynzk: tymczasem ! (something in the sense of take care)
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1083: [12:22:42] <Pynzk> but then again, last time I was in Wellington (in the middle of winter too no less) I walked through town on a WEDNESDAY at about 1am (so Thursday I guess) and it was pumping. I was very wtf at that point.
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1085: [12:25:17] <Pynzk> but then I couldn't judge, I was tempted to go in for a few, but I was on my way home from having had a few, haha
1086: [12:25:28] <Pynzk> and had conference later that morning :P
1087: [12:26:27] <Pynzk> Ended up falling asleep next to Reiner in a talk after he'd just interviewed me :<
1088: [12:26:28] <Pynzk> lol
1089: [12:26:32] <Pynzk> as it was.
1090: [12:26:44] <Pynzk> but then partied all night, got a ride home in the back of a bread truck.
1091: [12:26:48] <Pynzk> hahaha
1092: [12:27:35] <Pynzk> Got a free loaf of bread too :>
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1094: [12:30:22] <micmania1> Pynzk: That sounds EPIC
1095: [12:30:46] <Pynzk> micmania1: first time I'd had so much fun in a long time, and I haven't had so much fun since.
1096: [12:30:58] <Pynzk> especially since the next day involved catching a flight to race cars.
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1098: [12:37:21] <Pynzk> time off work, caught up with wellytron folks, went to a conference, caught up with SS folks, met old friends randomly at conference, went out with them at night, on the way home stopped for one last drink, saw the bread truck, got a lift back to hotel, caught plane to Taupo, went racing, blew car up, fixed car, did more racing, went home, won a game of hockey. EPIC weekend is pretty much an understatement.
1099: [12:37:23] <Pynzk> :P
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1103: [13:00:43] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: Uh-oh...
1104: [13:00:48] <kinglozzer> I also had fish & chips
1105: [13:00:54] <kinglozzer> It's creeping up on me..
1106: [13:01:01] <Pynzk> duh duh daaaaaa.....
1107: [13:01:04] <Pynzk> !
1108: [13:01:24] <Pynzk> Pro tip: go for a walk.
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1119: [13:44:56] <micmania1> kinglozzer: who you got tomorrow?
1120: [13:45:04] <kinglozzer> Fulham
1121: [13:45:10] <kinglozzer> We always lose at Fulham
1122: [13:45:18] <kinglozzer> Haven't won there in like 28 years apparently
1123: [13:46:47] <kinglozzer> micmania1: Who've Newcastle got?
1124: [13:47:32] <micmania1> Stoke away
1125: [13:47:46] <micmania1> Hoepfully you get 3 points tomorrow to put the mackems in the shit
1126: [13:47:54] <micmania1> even more
1127: [13:48:07] <micmania1> We'll probably get beat like
1128: [13:48:09] <micmania1> 3-0
1129: [13:48:13] <Pynzk> dat sunderland hatred, lulz
1130: [13:48:21] <kinglozzer> Haha, we're fucked if we lose
1131: [13:48:26] <Pynzk> oh you, geordie
1132: [13:48:28] <Pynzk> :P
1133: [13:49:01] <Pynzk> Fuck'n off to London tomorrow to have a blast.
1134: [13:49:10] <micmania1> yep, you have to be beating teams like Fulham to stay up
1135: [13:49:20] <micmania1> ... we got beat off Fulham
1136: [13:49:26] <micmania1> Pynzk: what for?
1137: [13:49:32] <Pynzk> meet kiwi mates
1138: [13:49:40] <micmania1> cool
1139: [13:49:47] <Pynzk> from school days, come over to start a continent tour.
1140: [13:49:47] <micmania1> shame we're not playing London tomorrow
1141: [13:50:09] <Pynzk> So catching up, hopefully see other mates down there too (also kiwis but based here)
1142: [13:50:20] <Pynzk> dem 2 year visas
1143: [13:50:22] <Pynzk> :D
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1145: [13:54:21] <opalfroot> is there a way to change the button text for adding a new data object?
1146: [13:54:45] <Pynzk> on...?
1147: [13:55:27] <Pynzk> model admin uses thatobjectclass.singluar_name iirc
1148: [13:55:36] <Pynzk> or maybe thatobjectclass.plural_name
1149: [13:55:46] <Pynzk> either way. But that'll change the name of it in all the places.
1150: [13:56:14] <Pynzk> otherwise look at the add button component's api and see if it's configurable.
1151: [13:56:38] <opalfroot> ah ok
1152: [13:56:39] <Pynzk> if it's not, subclass it and use that instead (either by replacing the comonent in the config, or using injector
1153: [13:56:39] <opalfroot> cool
1154: [13:57:37] <Pynzk> What everyone needs is more rock accordion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2GVlQkn4Q
1155: [13:59:53] <micmania1> and more beer
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1157: [14:00:33] <Pynzk> Can't make that tonight, I gotta be up and out the house by ~6am!
1158: [14:00:55] <micmania1> i'm up at about 8ish
1159: [14:01:07] <micmania1> to drink beer! YES!!!
1160: [14:01:14] <Pynzk> lulz
1161: [14:01:18] <Pynzk> breakfast of champions?
1162: [14:01:35] <micmania1> breakfast, dinner, tea & supper of champions
1163: [14:04:14] <Pynzk> Get used to having it cold unless you like waiting around before you drink :>
1164: [14:07:15] <micmania1> Well most of it will be cans
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1166: [14:07:25] <micmania1> in the car (I'm not driving for clarity)
1167: [14:11:50] <Pynzk> micmania1: nah I meant in NZ
1168: [14:12:01] <Pynzk> beer here is served tepid. Comes straight out of the fridge in NZ
1169: [14:12:37] <micmania1> maybe it just seems colder in NZ because NZ is much hotter?
1170: [14:12:45] <Pynzk> hahha
1171: [14:12:46] <Pynzk> neg.
1172: [14:12:56] <Pynzk> kegs are placed literally in the fridge.
1173: [14:13:08] <Pynzk> and pours are from tap, not hand pulled.
1174: [14:13:27] <micmania1> from tap?
1175: [14:13:35] <Pynzk> I've only known one place in NZ that has hand pulled pints.
1176: [14:13:46] <micmania1> Hand pulled pints are propper pints
1177: [14:13:54] <Pynzk> yeh, tap. Like what they have upstairs for that one fancy beer at the bridge tav.
1178: [14:14:04] <Pynzk> micmania1: we do 'handles'.
1179: [14:14:31] <Pynzk> more like this: http://upload.ecvv.com/upload/Product/20122/China_Fasional_glass_beer_mug_with_handle_500ml20122161451566.jpg
1180: [14:14:41] <Pynzk> only usually less shit styled.
1181: [14:15:12] <Pynzk> although fancier euro stuff usually has it's own tall style glass like peroni at the bridge.
1182: [14:15:32] <Pynzk> Some places to proper pints.
1183: [14:15:35] <Pynzk> do*
1184: [14:15:47] <Pynzk> people say 'pint' but generally it isn't.
1185: [14:16:19] <Pynzk> bullshit metric pints. If you pull up a seat next to an older gentleman you'll hear all kinds of yarns about how bullshit the 'metric pint' is.
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1187: [14:16:30] <Pynzk> because they're getting shortchanged about 200ml of beer, lol
1188: [14:16:35] <Pynzk> ish
1189: [14:16:49] <micmania1> yeah, I complained in London once
1190: [14:16:58] <micmania1> Asked for a pint
1191: [14:17:05] <Pynzk> I don't know what the actual measures are.
1192: [14:17:20] <micmania1> give me some shit plastic glass
1193: [14:17:29] <micmania1> just 'a pint'
1194: [14:17:43] <Pynzk> but I think a proper pint has a wee bit more than an NZ 'pint' (be it 'metric' or standard)
1195: [14:18:01] <Pynzk> But lots of places do have proper pint glasses.
1196: [14:18:04] <Pynzk> like at the bridge
1197: [14:18:18] <Pynzk> av. alc. vol. is usually less though.
1198: [14:18:21] <Pynzk> 5% ish.
1199: [14:18:30] <Pynzk> compared to your stronger 8's and stuff.
1200: [14:18:48] <micmania1> I don't even know what the stuff at the bridge is
1201: [14:18:55] <micmania1> I assume 5+
1202: [14:21:15] <micmania1> After so long using git stash and not realy knowing what it done I finally googled it
1203: [14:21:19] <micmania1> nice
1204: [14:24:27] <Pynzk> micmania1: depends on which brew you get on the night I think.
1205: [14:24:41] <Pynzk> yeah, stash is cool.
1206: [14:25:04] <Pynzk> basically a stack for saving shit when you would otherwise git reset
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1209: [14:41:37] <desperate> hi guys I appreciate that it's a very general eroor
1210: [14:41:41] <desperate> *error
1211: [14:41:55] <desperate> but Iv'e got the white screen on my homepage
1212: [14:42:05] <desperate> my site had been working ok
1213: [14:42:16] <desperate> then i was playing around with svn
1214: [14:42:24] <desperate> and must have picked up an old file which is causing a conflict
1215: [14:42:39] <desperate> is therea good place to start in troubleshooting this?
1216: [14:42:51] <desperate> I enabled debug mode and witched on error reporting
1217: [14:42:54] <Pynzk> F12
1218: [14:46:28] <opalfroot> I'm quite new to GridFields...is it right that they are used to provied programatic structure to how the admin pages are displayed
1219: [14:47:41] <Pynzk> depends on the page.
1220: [14:48:12] <Pynzk> gridfields are form fields. Like an input box.
1221: [14:48:31] <opalfroot> I'm trying to add a button to the dataobject input screen
1222: [14:48:35] <Pynzk> gridfields are found on asset admin, model admin, your site tree page if you put one there.
1223: [14:48:44] <Pynzk> opalfroot: there is no such screen.
1224: [14:48:47] <Pynzk> be more specific.
1225: [14:50:37] <opalfroot> In modeladmin when you're adding a model it has save and delete buttons I want to add more
1226: [14:51:25] <Pynzk> then you want to look at the API for buttons and things, or perhaps unclecheese's better buttons module. I dunno.
1227: [14:51:29] <Pynzk> never needed more buttons.
1228: [14:51:52] <Pynzk> I know there was talk about improving the CMS button API for 3.1
1229: [14:52:01] <Pynzk> which is obviously done now.
1230: [14:52:23] <opalfroot> hmmm
1231: [14:52:25] <Pynzk> so I dunno, it's going to take some serious investigation, or using the module.
1232: [14:52:34] <Pynzk> pretty obscure part of the system tbh.
1233: [14:53:00] <Pynzk> as with most things CMS, it's a bit of a clusterfuck if you're not deep in the knowledge of how the system all pieces together
1234: [14:53:06] <Pynzk> which not many are.
1235: [14:54:06] <opalfroot> lol I'll dig on - need to add some functionality to the bottom bar
1236: [14:56:20] <kinglozzer> opalfroot, Pynzk: The talk about improving that API never got any further
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1238: [14:56:34] <Pynzk> :< then how did they manage to sex up the 3.1 buttons so much?
1239: [14:57:00] <Pynzk> Please don't tell me it's all just one big helluva hack :/
1240: [14:57:04] <kinglozzer> I did it before by adding extensions to GridFieldDetailForm I think
1241: [14:57:11] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: Huh?
1242: [14:57:29] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: the 3.1 buttons are superior to 3.0
1243: [14:57:31] <kinglozzer> Define "sex up"
1244: [14:57:39] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: aren't shit?
1245: [14:57:49] <kinglozzer> In appearance? Or function?
1246: [14:57:54] <Pynzk> both :P
1247: [14:58:07] <kinglozzer> :P
1248: [14:58:44] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: It's not hard to add buttons, you just have to spend ages searching through scss files to find the right class for the pretty icon you want
1249: [14:59:43] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: urgh wholey fuck this guy :< https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/silverstripe-dev/CsAtvTZC2ek
1250: [14:59:49] <Pynzk> tactful answer btw.
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1252: [15:00:41] <Pynzk> Man I hate it when people get all excited about shit that's already in core being re-invented by someone who didn't know of it as a module.
1253: [15:01:02] <Pynzk> it's the blind leading the blind, creating a whole lot of noise that basically amounts to "core needs a tidy"
1254: [15:01:07] <Pynzk> "and better docs."
1255: [15:01:24] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: https://gist.github.com/kinglozzer/10475897
1256: [15:01:49] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: *looks*
1257: [15:02:35] <kinglozzer> Ohhh yeah I remember now :P
1258: [15:03:15] <Pynzk> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/silverstripe-dev/cms$20button/silverstripe-dev/GdM4_4nxM8A/YU0kKVp4jLIJ
1259: [15:03:16] <opalfroot> ah cool cheers...except I have no idea how to use GridFields...better get reading
1260: [15:03:39] <Pynzk> opalfroot: docs.ss.org.nz has a good page on it.
1261: [15:03:57] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: ^^ (groups link)
1262: [15:05:28] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: Ah yeah, seems the designs got included but the API is still crap
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1264: [15:05:51] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/2992
1265: [15:05:54] <Pynzk> kinglozzer: yeah there's a bit of talk there about improvements, I guess they got a wee clean then fell to the side
1266: [15:06:10] <kinglozzer> O wait wrong ticket
1267: [15:06:11] <kinglozzer> I think
1268: [15:06:28] <Pynzk> that already happens
1269: [15:06:32] <Pynzk> I thought :<
1270: [15:07:14] <kinglozzer> Pynzk: Nah GridField pays no attention to it apparently
1271: [15:08:13] <kinglozzer> Well, according to grep getCMSActions
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1273: [15:08:46] <Pynzk> yeah well that's gridfield, not cms is it?
1274: [15:08:52] <Pynzk> well... in theory.
1275: [15:08:53] <Pynzk> :P
1276: [15:09:55] <kinglozzer> getCMSActions is defined on DataObject, but only the cms module seems to actually use it :|
1277: [15:10:21] <Pynzk> yeh. As it should be (well, the usage part at least).
1278: [15:11:07] <kinglozzer> Oh I see what you mean
1279: [15:11:23] <Pynzk> hmm?
1280: [15:11:39] <kinglozzer> About 'CMS' actions should only really be used in the cms module?
1281: [15:13:21] <Pynzk> well yeah.
1282: [15:13:27] <kinglozzer> Though sometimes people call the framework 'admin area' the cms
1283: [15:13:30] <kinglozzer> And I get all confus
1284: [15:13:39] <Pynzk> although framework defines the admin part of the cms I guess, so it's debatable.
1285: [15:13:56] <Pynzk> since that's technically where the buttons come in to it.
1286: [15:14:04] <Pynzk> and other such field grabbing things
1287: [15:14:05] <kinglozzer> Yeah
1288: [15:14:26] <kinglozzer> It's not actually hard to do anyway, just really badly (i.e. not) documented
1289: [15:14:38] <Pynzk> also fiddly as fuck last I looked at it.
1290: [15:14:43] <Pynzk> not a clean API.
1291: [15:14:56] <Pynzk> I'd hoped that it was being addressed after that post by sminnee
1292: [15:15:04] <kinglozzer> No, not clean 'cause you gotta apply the extension to all GridFields
1293: [15:15:10] <kinglozzer> Then check the modelclassname
1294: [15:15:12] <Pynzk> as that's what the post(s) basically amount to.
1295: [15:15:29] <Pynzk> but obviously never actually made it good.
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1297: [15:23:41] <opalfroot> So I found the class I need to override - its GridFieldDetailForm
1298: [15:24:07] <opalfroot> is there a way of setting which class GridField class my models use?
1299: [15:25:44] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: Nope, you'll have to create a getEditForm() in your ModelAdmin class (if you're using ModelAdmin, otherwise no need), then get the GridField, remove the GridFieldDetailForm and add your own custom one
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1301: [15:26:10] <kinglozzer> You'll also need your own GridFieldDetailForm_ItemRequest, which is why I did it with an extension instead of that method :P
1302: [15:27:56] <opalfroot> hmm
1303: [15:28:25] <kinglozzer> O.o http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-GridFieldDetailForm.html#_setItemEditFormCallback trying to work out what that might be useful for
1304: [15:30:46] <opalfroot> looking at getEditForm in modelAdmin ....its horrible
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1307: [15:33:15] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: Using an extension is much easier..
1308: [15:35:33] <opalfroot> kinglozzer does that snippet of code work?
1309: [15:35:41] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: Yep
1310: [15:36:39] <kinglozzer> Though you'll need to swap the "something" out for your DataObject's class name: if ($this->owner->getGridField()->getModelClass() == "Something") {
1311: [15:36:47] <opalfroot> cool I'll try using it ..
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1318: [15:45:13] <opalfroot> kinglozzer - the yml has a '-' in it?
1319: [15:45:33] <kinglozzer> opalfroot: Yep, it's an item in an array
1320: [15:51:36] <opalfroot> got it to work by adding in the config.php
1321: [15:53:43] <Pynzk> learn yml if you haven't already.
1322: [15:53:45] <Pynzk> it's better.
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1325: [15:58:06] <opalfroot> I got it in the yml but it doesn't seem to register it
1326: [16:00:36] <kinglozzer> Did you flush?
1327: [16:00:58] <kinglozzer> Otherwise it might be a syntax issue - yaml is very picky about spaces & tabs
1328: [16:01:29] <Pynzk> weekend!
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1331: [16:06:29] <kinglozzer> Yup, weekend, ciao <3
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