#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 11 February 2014

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1: [00:00:04] <Colin[pi]> said it was the most nuts thing he's ever driven
2: [00:01:32] <Colin[pi]> no think it was this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GVfFCH-7_c
3: [00:01:39] <guzzlefry> willr: Are you a dev? Had a quick question if so.
4: [00:02:01] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I think I'd rather a KTM xbow
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8: [00:04:35] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah but the xbow is so ugly :o
9: [00:05:03] <antmas> Colin[pi]: :O I quite like it
10: [00:05:10] <antmas> in a weird way
11: [00:05:21] <Colin[pi]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-yv2HhsDeI
12: [00:05:48] <antmas> best looking is the caterham though
13: [00:05:52] <antmas> much more oldschool
14: [00:06:26] <Colin[pi]> ah yeah they have a classic good look
15: [00:06:56] <antmas> lunch!
16: [00:08:26] <guzzlefry> mailing list or git hub issues comment thing for asking questions about stuff?
17: [00:10:31] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: that's a beautiful sound.
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21: [00:12:55] <Ryan-Toast> hmm, may do this on my next form http://bradfrostweb.com/blog/post/float-label-pattern/
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26: [00:14:35] <macka^> Hi guys - Does anyone use mollom with userforms? i am having trouble getting it to work?
27: [00:15:11] <macka^> I have installed the spamprotection, mollom modules and rebuilt the database but when i add the verification to a form. the form doesn't load
28: [00:15:33] <macka^> Error i'm getting is PHP Fatal error: Declaration of MollomSpamProtector::getFormField() must be compatible with that of SpamProtector::getFormField()
29: [00:15:38] <macka^> from apache
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31: [00:17:43] <guzzlefry> macka^: Sounds like a possible version mismatch.
32: [00:19:17] * micmania1 quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
33: [00:20:17] <guzzlefry> macka^: Are you using composer?
34: [00:24:32] <macka^> guzzlefry: i installed it via composer
35: [00:24:42] <macka^> well attempted to, it did install like that
36: [00:25:48] <macka^> actually - that's one thing i haven't been able to do - how do you "uninstall" a module in composer?
37: [00:26:03] * ObiWanShanobi quit (Quit: Leaving...)
38: [00:27:06] <Ryan-Toast> rm -fdr * :P
39: [00:27:14] <guzzlefry> yeah...
40: [00:27:16] <guzzlefry> manually
41: [00:28:29] <macka^> lol - so just like normal - delete the module and start again.. it's just when i do an composer update - it wants to install the modules that i have deleted
42: [00:28:50] <guzzlefry> oh
43: [00:29:00] <guzzlefry> macka^: You have to remove them from your composer.json.
44: [00:29:53] <macka^> Right - lemme delete all the modules, and do it properly through composer and i'll be back
45: [00:30:42] <terryapodaca> http://www.dairymax.org/ <-- much better but still taking ~10 seconds to first byte. Any other suggestions?
46: [00:32:24] <spronk> :|
47: [00:33:36] <guzzlefry> UncleCheese: Which packagist version of Dashboard should I use? Silverstipe/ or UncleCheese?
48: [00:33:54] <terryapodaca> spronk: if that was meant for me...trust me I KNOW
49: [00:34:10] <spronk> terryapodaca: ja
50: [00:34:15] <spronk> this is SS site?
51: [00:34:18] <spronk> what's it hosted on?
52: [00:34:55] <terryapodaca> it is a SS 2.4.10 site hosted at Dreamhost on a dedicated server or VPS
53: [00:35:26] <spronk> got iostat ?
54: [00:35:37] <spronk> seems like it could be an IO problem
55: [00:35:47] <UncleCheese> guzzlefry: good question
56: [00:36:22] <terryapodaca> not that I know of...Dreamhost doesn't do very well with providing stuff like that
57: [00:36:23] <UncleCheese> unclecheese/
58: [00:36:51] <spronk> if you ahve ssh access you can install yourself
59: [00:36:57] <spronk> and go and look at output in console
60: [00:37:02] <spronk> might be worth looking at top while a request is running too
61: [00:37:05] <spronk> or
62: [00:37:08] <spronk> get the trial of new relic
63: [00:37:10] <spronk> and plug it in
64: [00:37:14] <spronk> and see wtf it tells you is causing the time
65: [00:37:18] <Zauberfisch> good morning
66: [00:37:21] <spronk> (the last option is probbaly not a bad way to figure this out, tbh()
67: [00:37:33] <guzzlefry> thanks
68: [00:38:24] <terryapodaca> http://newrelic.com/ that?
69: [00:38:30] <spronk> ja
70: [00:38:34] <UncleCheese> Zauberfisch: go to bed!
71: [00:38:54] <spronk> you do need to install stuff on server to get it working
72: [00:38:58] <spronk> but... it's pretty damn godo
73: [00:38:59] <spronk> good*
74: [00:40:15] <antmas> WANT http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/02/how-these-magical-gravity-defying-doors-actually-work/
75: [00:41:39] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: but I don't want to. the other kids all stay up long too!
76: [00:42:41] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Saw that on reddit the other day, apparently they're incredibly overpriced.
77: [00:43:05] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I'd say, plus the easiest way to lose fingers
78: [00:43:15] <Zauberfisch> antmas: awesome stuff
79: [00:43:42] <Ryan-Toast> You'd feel like the goddamn batman though.
80: [00:45:32] <guzzlefry> UncleCheese: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/issues/797 Is that your events module? Need to replicate this so I can fix.
81: [00:46:26] <UncleCheese> no, it's the dashboard module
82: [00:48:03] <Zauberfisch> UncleCheese: in fact, I actually just woke up
83: [00:48:19] <UncleCheese> isn't it like 3AM in Austria?
84: [00:48:28] <Zauberfisch> 1:48
85: [00:48:34] <UncleCheese> right
86: [00:48:40] <Zauberfisch> went to bed early
87: [00:48:52] <UncleCheese> i'll say
88: [00:49:04] <Zauberfisch> I tend to be more productive when I stand up early
89: [00:51:32] <Ryan-Toast> Is one of you http://themestripe.com/ ?
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91: [00:56:14] <Colin[pi]> <UncleCheese> isn't it like 3AM in Austria?
92: [00:56:15] <Colin[pi]> read that as "Australia" and was like "uhhhhh..."
93: [00:56:15] <Colin[pi]> antmas: cool doors, imagine the ouchie if a finger caught tho
94: [00:56:15] <Zauberfisch> Colin[pi]: haha, you are not the first to confuse the two
95: [00:56:15] <Zauberfisch> we actually have shops selling merchandise to clear up the issue: http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/track/large/a9af6f35-995d-4b2c-8677-b8312e9f8ef1.jpg
96: [00:56:15] <terryapodaca> spronk...VPS only allowing 1024 MB on mysql is pretty low isn't it?
97: [00:56:15] <spronk> depends on how much traffic there is to the site
98: [00:56:25] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: hehehe
99: [00:56:37] <Colin[pi]> Zauberfisch: my sister has visited there, she said you guys are very efficient
100: [00:56:42] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: They shouldn't allow countries to have such similar names
101: [00:56:54] <UncleCheese> Australia = AU
102: [00:56:58] <Zauberfisch> efficient? hmmm, intresting
103: [00:56:58] <UncleCheese> Austria = AT
104: [00:57:01] <UncleCheese> come on, man
105: [00:57:56] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: originally we were called New Holland
106: [00:58:09] <Ryan-Toast> Who're these guys? http://silverbusters.com/
107: [00:59:09] <UncleCheese> AUS was?
108: [00:59:26] <UncleCheese> right, because New Zealand is essentially the same thing
109: [00:59:30] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: yeah
110: [00:59:33] <Colin[pi]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Holland_%28Australia%29
111: [00:59:37] <UncleCheese> Zealand is like some suburb in Amsterdam or some shit
112: [00:59:48] <UncleCheese> or Zellund or whatever
113: [01:03:10] <Colin[pi]> I can't believe I didn't know until recently that NZ didn't have true names for the islands
114: [01:03:24] <Colin[pi]> I thought North and South islands were the actual names
115: [01:03:48] <antmas> Colin[pi]: they have Maori names
116: [01:04:04] <simon_w> The Maori names are the new ones
117: [01:04:19] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: lol.
118: [01:04:32] <Colin[pi]> but everyone will continue north/south island of course, because it's been used for so long ;P
119: [01:04:39] <antmas> well yeah
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121: [01:06:27] <Ryan-Toast> Twitter told me to follow you UncleCheese, who am I to question the almighty god bird?
122: [01:06:45] <UncleCheese> Ryan Potter
123: [01:06:49] <UncleCheese> very nice
124: [01:06:55] <UncleCheese> nice to have a face with the name
125: [01:07:15] <UncleCheese> and you're in NZ to boot
126: [01:07:27] * antmas wonders if he follows UncleCheese
127: [01:07:37] <Colin[pi]> what's your handle UncleCheese?
128: [01:07:44] <UncleCheese> _Unclecheese_
129: [01:07:48] <UncleCheese> regrettably
130: [01:07:48] <Colin[pi]> ah yep got it
131: [01:08:01] * antmas is following UncleCheese
132: [01:08:05] <Colin[pi]> already following!
133: [01:08:10] <UncleCheese> i didn't quite get how important the first character was in twitter
134: [01:08:18] <UncleCheese> @Uncl…. "hey! wtf!"
135: [01:08:26] <UncleCheese> @_Uncle… "agh, there we go"
136: [01:08:41] <UncleCheese> Should have done @Unclecheese_
137: [01:08:47] <antmas> UncleCheese: yeah I have that problem @_patrickbell
138: [01:09:09] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: did you get the house?
139: [01:09:27] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: yup
140: [01:09:31] <Colin[pi]> oh sweet
141: [01:09:53] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Twitter, man http://i.imgur.com/EDZdXBV.jpg
142: [01:09:55] <antmas> I want a new place
143: [01:10:08] <guzzlefry> Well, this bug is odd.
144: [01:10:58] * Bollig|DesignCty quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
145: [01:10:58] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I use it basically to subtly troll PolarBearFarm and complain about computers
146: [01:11:06] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: lol
147: [01:11:07] <guzzlefry> toggling position: relative; on and off in Firefox fixes the layout issue...
148: [01:11:14] <guzzlefry> Problem with the rendering engine?
149: [01:11:18] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: I had to meet them in the middle.. between the out bidder and the original rent
150: [01:11:33] <Ryan-Toast> I feel like an 80 year old man seeing a computer for the first time, I don't know what to do, or why I should use it.
151: [01:13:01] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I felt the same 3+ years ago, but you just *use* it and after a while it kinda becomes obvious.
152: [01:13:16] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: that still seems shitty
153: [01:13:22] <antmas> I'm tempted to completely ditch FB in favour of it
154: [01:13:25] <UncleCheese> yup
155: [01:13:26] <Ryan-Toast> I still don't know why I should use it, though. I do like that I pretty much only follow debs though.
156: [01:13:31] <UncleCheese> but it's really common, apparently
157: [01:13:36] <Ryan-Toast> makes the "wall" somewhat interesting
158: [01:13:46] <UncleCheese> there are rentals in auckland where people are offering +$100 rent, sight unseen
159: [01:13:52] <Ryan-Toast> The only reason I use FB is for events.
160: [01:14:20] <UncleCheese> i'm even more upset about our current place.. They're raising the rent by $20/week, for no apparent reason
161: [01:14:28] <UncleCheese> meanwhile, they're advertising it as "well-insulated"
162: [01:14:47] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: How much is your rent?
163: [01:14:49] <UncleCheese> it has literally NO insulation.. it's the primary reason we're leaving.. 13 degrees in the house yesterday.. we could see our breath
164: [01:14:50] <UncleCheese> $500
165: [01:15:17] <Ryan-Toast> How many bedrooms?
166: [01:15:20] <Colin[pi]> I have a rent review coming up :(
167: [01:15:21] <UncleCheese> so we have a showing at 4:30 today, and we're going to put all of our heaters out in the lounge and pile electric blankets everywhere
168: [01:15:30] <UncleCheese> because i want people to know that they're full of shit
169: [01:15:33] <Colin[pi]> lol
170: [01:15:34] <UncleCheese> it's a fucking cold house
171: [01:15:49] <UncleCheese> they have no reason to be advertising it as well-insulated or increasing the rent
172: [01:15:53] <Ryan-Toast> I have the opposite problem, my apartment is like a fucking oven
173: [01:16:01] <UncleCheese> a kiwi house that's too warm
174: [01:16:02] <UncleCheese> go on
175: [01:16:12] <Ryan-Toast> Apartment :P
176: [01:16:12] <antmas> our flat is pretty sweet, brand new log burner though
177: [01:16:14] <UncleCheese> let me guess.. it's too affordable, too?
178: [01:16:20] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: put a pile of snuggies near the door, with the sign "You'll need these"
179: [01:16:26] <Ryan-Toast> no, $420 a week for a 1 bedroom.
180: [01:16:33] <UncleCheese> Ryan-Toast lives in alter-zealand
181: [01:16:35] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: :O
182: [01:16:39] <UncleCheese> whoa
183: [01:16:45] <UncleCheese> Kelburn?
184: [01:16:45] <antmas> 1 bedroom?
185: [01:16:47] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, city life
186: [01:16:48] <Colin[pi]> fuck rent, seriously
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188: [01:17:18] <UncleCheese> fuck rent? fuck mortgages, too
189: [01:17:22] <Ryan-Toast> Auckland City Central, the worst place to live if you want money.
190: [01:17:26] <UncleCheese> ohhhhh
191: [01:17:28] <UncleCheese> right
192: [01:17:47] <UncleCheese> yeah, the median cost of a 3-bedroom just the vicinity of Auckland is over $500 now
193: [01:17:48] <Ryan-Toast> Could rent an entire house for what I pay, but I love living in the city.
194: [01:17:59] <UncleCheese> i don't consider Auckland a city
195: [01:18:03] <antmas> $320 p/w for our 3 bedroom house :D
196: [01:18:10] <UncleCheese> antmas: in?
197: [01:18:14] <Ryan-Toast> No lawn to mow, don't have to see people. everything I need is walking distance away.
198: [01:18:15] <antmas> UncleCheese: Nelson
199: [01:18:18] <UncleCheese> oh, christ
200: [01:18:24] <UncleCheese> there are places to work there?
201: [01:18:25] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah, but..Nelson :P
202: [01:18:29] <Colin[pi]> <UncleCheese> i don't consider Auckland a city
203: [01:18:30] <Colin[pi]> ^ LOL
204: [01:18:33] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: lol
205: [01:18:50] <Ryan-Toast> Not a city, BUT A SUPER CITY.
206: [01:18:51] <UncleCheese> no public transit, no city
207: [01:18:51] <antmas> UncleCheese: for sure - it's all .net here though, or Ruby
208: [01:18:52] <UncleCheese> it's that simple
209: [01:18:53] <Ryan-Toast> or some shit.
210: [01:19:04] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: lawns are so overrated, amirite?
211: [01:19:14] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Hate that biz
212: [01:19:23] <Ryan-Toast> I'll go to the park if I want to run around
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214: [01:19:31] <Ryan-Toast> THE TRAMPOLINE PARK
215: [01:19:39] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I had a house in the 'burbs when I was married... now apartment, I *much* prefer the apartment
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217: [01:20:03] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lose the house?
218: [01:20:10] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: "Oh it's been two weeks, better clean up my entire apartment - one hour later - ALL DONE"
219: [01:20:17] <UncleCheese> everyone keeps telling us we should just buy, because $500/wk is essentially a mortgage payment.. but i don't know how anyone gets a mortgage around here.. 20% requisite deposit on houses that start at $300k means you have to show up with $60K just to talk to a bank
220: [01:20:32] <antmas> UncleCheese: yeah exactly
221: [01:20:33] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: Welcome to my life
222: [01:20:46] <UncleCheese> how people have that kind of cash kicking around when paying $500/week for rent and $20 for a package of chicken is beyond me
223: [01:20:46] <Colin[pi]> antmas: house was sold, she received a percentage, as did I
224: [01:20:57] <antmas> I can't buy a house until my parents pretty much drop dead
225: [01:21:01] <antmas> Colin[pi]: dang
226: [01:21:18] <Colin[pi]> yeah it's insane to get into the market these days
227: [01:21:20] <Ryan-Toast> Lol: http://i.imgur.com/0CM0yX0.gif
228: [01:21:32] <UncleCheese> I keep thinking the bubble will burst, though
229: [01:21:35] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: heh
230: [01:21:44] <UncleCheese> i mean, when people are outbidding on rentals, sight unseen, that's a pretty frothy market
231: [01:22:14] <antmas> would give anything to get a mortgage, makes borrowing so much easier
232: [01:22:26] <UncleCheese> and the rental market is out of control because no one can get mortgages
233: [01:22:29] <Ryan-Toast> We need legislation on people overseas buying up property and not fucking living here.
234: [01:22:32] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: I'm obviously doing it wrong because I work my arse off for what small income I bring in ;(
235: [01:22:35] <Ryan-Toast> Drives the prices up crazy.
236: [01:22:39] <Colin[pi]> and then it all goes out again
237: [01:22:59] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I hear ya
238: [01:23:05] <UncleCheese> but yet is seems every other NZ resident I talk to owns multiple properties
239: [01:23:19] <UncleCheese> oh yeah, we've got a bach in Otaki
240: [01:23:23] <Ryan-Toast> Because they bought up property 10+ years ago.
241: [01:23:25] <Colin[pi]> UncleCheese: I feel this way with people I went to school with lol
242: [01:23:26] <UncleCheese> yeah, we've got a rental down in Chch
243: [01:23:34] <Colin[pi]> seem to be squillionaires
244: [01:23:36] <ss23> Back in my day it wasn't called "cyberbullying", it was called "EFNet"
245: [01:23:36] <Ryan-Toast> when it was ez mode
246: [01:23:39] <Colin[pi]> welp, I'm doing life wrong then
247: [01:23:45] <UncleCheese> yeah, i apparently am, too
248: [01:24:01] <antmas> DON'T HAVE KIDS
249: [01:24:03] <UncleCheese> i can't believe what we're paying in rent, but i can't imagine compromising for the kind of housing we would get at $100 less
250: [01:24:05] <Ryan-Toast> I've got a good 6 years to go before I care about not owning property.
251: [01:24:31] <Ryan-Toast> Hopefully the govt has stepped in by then.
252: [01:24:32] <antmas> ss23: wrong room?
253: [01:24:32] <Colin[pi]> kids when little are really not too expensive, BUT, they are time expensive, and that can affect your bottom line
254: [01:24:49] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: +1
255: [01:25:00] <Colin[pi]> my seven year old is not that expensive... YET
256: [01:25:06] <Colin[pi]> but he will be
257: [01:25:07] <UncleCheese> the nominal cost of kids is a lot less than i expected
258: [01:25:08] <Colin[pi]> and that worries me lol
259: [01:25:08] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah pretty much this - mine's not too bad in terms of money, but I have barely any time to get mula on the side
260: [01:25:11] <UncleCheese> but the opportunity cost is very high
261: [01:25:20] <ss23> antmas: RIGHT ROOM
262: [01:25:28] <Colin[pi]> kids will take 110% of your time if they can
263: [01:25:33] <guzzlefry> 0.o
264: [01:25:39] <UncleCheese> my college-educated wife is home all day, so that costs her potential salary per year
265: [01:26:07] <UncleCheese> but given the choice of that or paying for day care, i'd take mom, and so would she
266: [01:26:26] <Colin[pi]> my gf is putting her income towards her study, and because she doesn't have AU visa yet, it's LUDICROUSLY expensive
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268: [01:26:32] <antmas> UncleCheese: we're right in the middle of that, 3 days per week in day care
269: [01:26:44] <UncleCheese> cause daycare is like $10/hour or whatever.. so unless you make more than $20/hour, it's not really worth it
270: [01:27:07] <Colin[pi]> arg everything is so fucking expensive
271: [01:27:09] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Where is she from?
272: [01:27:16] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: Brazil
273: [01:27:16] <antmas> UncleCheese: plus you probably earn too much to get the govt. to fork over some free hours
274: [01:27:18] <UncleCheese> North Korea
275: [01:27:22] <Ryan-Toast> ^ lol
276: [01:27:26] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Nice.
277: [01:27:33] <Colin[pi]> yeah she calls me Dear Leader
278: [01:27:43] <UncleCheese> when he's 3, we get 20 hours of daycare for free
279: [01:27:47] <Ryan-Toast> Good thing about NZ and AUS is that we can just hop over and work without a visa
280: [01:27:54] <UncleCheese> when he's 2, we can get daycare for $4/hour
281: [01:27:56] <Colin[pi]> yeah that is nice
282: [01:28:00] <UncleCheese> and free if mom is there with him
283: [01:28:18] <antmas> UncleCheese: wat?! Ours is only 18 months and he gets 20hours free
284: [01:28:27] <UncleCheese> uhh
285: [01:28:29] <UncleCheese> no
286: [01:28:44] <UncleCheese> i've researched this pretty extensively
287: [01:29:03] <antmas> UncleCheese: really? I could send you our invoices
288: [01:29:12] <UncleCheese> hmm
289: [01:29:39] <UncleCheese> http://www.minedu.govt.nz/parents/earlyyears/howeceworks/20hoursece/20hourseceinfo4parents.aspx
290: [01:29:48] <UncleCheese> "From 1 July 2010 all three, four and five-year old children are able to go to early childhood education (ECE) services for six hours a day, 20 hours a week at no charge. 20 Hours ECE applies to all teacher-led ECE services, kōhanga reo and Playcentres."
291: [01:30:40] <antmas> UncleCheese: weird, maybe we get something else?
292: [01:31:11] <UncleCheese> i think it's pretty clear what's going on here
293: [01:31:11] <antmas> I know at least some of our hours are free
294: [01:31:12] <UncleCheese> you're stealing it
295: [01:31:19] <antmas> UncleCheese: lol
296: [01:31:27] <antmas> if I knew how, I would without hesitation
297: [01:31:31] <UncleCheese> ha
298: [01:31:44] <UncleCheese> if only daycare were like television shows
299: [01:31:56] <antmas> they have like 20+ kids at our one, that is a LOT of income
300: [01:32:11] <UncleCheese> a lot of liability
301: [01:32:18] <UncleCheese> oh, wait.. that doesn't exist here
302: [01:32:35] <guzzlefry> Is everyone in .nz sleeping right now?
303: [01:32:39] <UncleCheese> in the US, like half the cost is to offset their insurance premiums
304: [01:32:46] <antmas> guzzlefry: ? nope, it's 2.33pm
305: [01:32:50] <guzzlefry> hrm
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307: [01:33:19] <guzzlefry> Trying to win at this bug, but I don't know entwine or the CMS front-end stuff well enough.
308: [01:34:03] <antmas> guzzlefry: sorry, what was it again?
309: [01:34:15] <Ryan-Toast> what's entwine?
310: [01:34:15] <macka^> ok - so i went through and removed all those mollom/spam protection modules and tried to do install it through composer.
311: [01:34:28] <macka^> but composer through an error and said incompatablity
312: [01:34:44] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: a js lib isn't it?
313: [01:34:57] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: oh good, more js libraries.
314: [01:35:08] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: WELCOME TO SS
315: [01:36:32] <Ryan-Toast> Oh shit it's valentines day on Friday.
316: [01:36:37] <Ryan-Toast> Need to make a card or something.
317: [01:36:49] <antmas> I have no idea what to do
318: [01:36:57] <antmas> all our potential baby sitters are busy :(
319: [01:37:11] <Ryan-Toast> pay double.
320: [01:37:34] <antmas> I should really
321: [01:38:00] <guzzlefry> antmas: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/issues/797
322: [01:38:10] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: I'm just going to make this: http://24.media.tumblr.com/2ce99d895c4cbc90b80a9e1c477c5531/tumblr_mhziy3J2Ex1r3kkg6o5_500.png
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324: [01:38:51] <guzzlefry> I've been investigating. :P
325: [01:39:00] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: hahaha nice
326: [01:39:12] <antmas> guzzlefry: does that workaround work at all?
327: [01:39:24] <guzzlefry> antmas: work around?
328: [01:39:39] <antmas> guzzlefry: browser redraw
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331: [01:39:57] <guzzlefry> it requires user intervention.
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333: [01:40:13] <antmas> guzzlefry: I know, but if it works it would being to highlight what's causing it
334: [01:40:16] <guzzlefry> Like opening up firebug and changing some sizes around, or switching to a tab and back again.
335: [01:40:24] <guzzlefry> ah, yeah they do
336: [01:40:43] <antmas> guzzlefry: does it give any errors at all?
337: [01:42:11] <guzzlefry> nope
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339: [01:42:33] <antmas> guzzlefry: browser specific? or all of em?
340: [01:42:59] <guzzlefry> Good question.
341: [01:43:05] <guzzlefry> Those screenshots look like safari.
342: [01:43:07] <guzzlefry> I'm using Firefox.
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346: [01:43:10] <guzzlefry> Trying IE.
347: [01:46:25] <antmas> ffff
348: [01:46:28] <antmas> asp repeaters
349: [01:47:06] <guzzlefry> yeah, roughly the same in IE.
350: [01:47:14] <guzzlefry> IE only redraws on window resize though.
351: [01:48:54] <antmas> where is the #Root_events in that example URL coming from exaclty? the page it was accessed from?
352: [01:49:43] <antmas> very weird bug, I'll give it that
353: [01:49:44] <Zauberfisch> yaaaaaaaay
354: [01:49:58] <Zauberfisch> wkhtml2pdf just received major updates
355: [01:50:00] <antmas> login/out icon even changes
356: [01:50:00] <Zauberfisch> fucking amazing
357: [01:50:34] <Zauberfisch> binaries that work! no more compiling your own patched QT
358: [01:50:50] <Zauberfisch> yes!
359: [01:51:04] <Zauberfisch> just installed the full featured version in <60 seconds
360: [01:51:18] <simon_w> Yeah, I've had no problems with the binaries before :p
361: [01:51:46] <Zauberfisch> simon_w: hmmm. I always had to compile QT and wkhtml2pdf by hand
362: [01:52:00] <Zauberfisch> and the debian package just sucked
363: [01:52:00] <simon_w> Never had to do that, either on OSX or Debian
364: [01:52:09] <simon_w> Just downloaded the binaries
365: [01:52:22] <Zauberfisch> well, anyway, it works now
366: [01:52:23] <Zauberfisch> yay
367: [01:53:11] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: made a gridfielld for map markers/infowindows http://i.imgur.com/HsxRJAE.png
368: [01:54:01] <simon_w> Time to write my hhvm server provisioning script!
369: [01:56:28] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nice
370: [01:56:36] <antmas> wish I had time to do all these things :P
371: [01:56:55] <Ryan-Toast> It's for a client, so I made it in boilerplate first.
372: [01:56:57] <Ryan-Toast> :P
373: [01:57:05] <simon_w> ss23, I'm writing an equivalent script to the one people want you to write!
374: [01:57:09] <Ryan-Toast> then will migrate it to their site
375: [01:57:16] <Ryan-Toast> and use it as a module in the future :P
376: [01:57:18] <antmas> heh
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378: [02:02:05] <zippy__> Zauberfisch: I hadn't had a problem with them either, but thanks for the heads up
379: [02:02:58] <guzzlefry> Anyone here familiar with entwine?
380: [02:03:23] <guzzlefry> I need to call the redraw method on the .cms-container element somehow.
381: [02:03:46] <simon_w> $('.cms-container').redraw()?
382: [02:03:58] <simon_w> Or do you need to .entwine('ss') first?
383: [02:07:29] <guzzlefry> not sure 0.o
384: [02:07:33] <guzzlefry> jQuery(".cms-container").entwine('ss').redraw(); <-- undefined
385: [02:07:51] <guzzlefry> Trying this in Firebug by the way.
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387: [02:11:52] <antmas> :O
388: [02:12:01] <antmas> those feels when you find new music
389: [02:15:46] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Or when you hear a Gwen Stefani remix and you like it...
390: [02:15:51] <guzzlefry> maybe trying to tackle a front-end bug was a bad move... :P
391: [02:18:29] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: lol, similar to what I'm listening to
392: [02:18:41] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Diojg4MYaL4
393: [02:19:20] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I like - also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaI5JCxOCdw
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395: [02:20:07] <antmas> mostly because she kinda looks like Natalie Portman
396: [02:20:14] <antmas> and that is never a bad thing
397: [02:20:57] <Ryan-Toast> she looks nothing like her :P
398: [02:21:06] <antmas> you don't think so?
399: [02:21:31] <guzzlefry> a little
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401: [02:21:45] <antmas> *kinda* being key here
402: [02:21:52] <Ryan-Toast> Hmm, you can loop through every page in a template...that gives me an idea for a one page theme.
403: [02:27:01] <antmas> I don't always look up C# problems, but when I do, some nubcake gives an answer in VB
404: [02:28:16] <Ryan-Toast> I want to make SS themes, but I just don't think I'd make any money off of them.
405: [02:30:50] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: booked those April dates off yet?
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407: [02:31:00] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: no, not yet.
408: [02:31:03] <Ryan-Toast> I need to though.
409: [02:40:38] <guzzlefry> night folks
410: [02:42:35] <antmas> l8orz!
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412: [02:52:16] <antmas> http://io9.com/this-massive-hound-is-still-growing-1520254971 o.O
413: [03:01:05] <Ryan-Toast> Ugh I hate this growing trend of things fucking fading in as you scroll to them.
414: [03:01:25] <spronk> yerp
415: [03:01:26] <spronk> same
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419: [03:02:07] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: link?
420: [03:02:22] <Ryan-Toast> just looking at popular themes on themeforest.
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423: [03:04:30] <antmas> I can't find an example :P
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426: [03:10:25] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: you probably would make a quick buck seeing as there is like only 1 SS theme on themeforest :P
427: [03:10:39] <Ryan-Toast> Doubtful.
428: [03:10:49] <Ryan-Toast> IT's just too hard for plebs to install
429: [03:11:15] <antmas> true
430: [03:11:31] <antmas> man, I need to start a stock image budget
431: [03:11:38] <UncleCheese> could anyone else make use of a task that audited unused fields in the CMS?
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434: [03:12:07] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: If there was a Module API I think people would use it a lot more.
435: [03:12:15] <UncleCheese> bah
436: [03:12:20] <Ryan-Toast> Like wordier has with their plugins
437: [03:12:22] <UncleCheese> it's not something a client would ever use
438: [03:12:34] <Ryan-Toast> I know
439: [03:12:37] <UncleCheese> i imagine it would be for developers
440: [03:12:43] <Ryan-Toast> "developers"
441: [03:12:46] <UncleCheese> to just run a script and see where they need to update their codE?
442: [03:13:00] <UncleCheese> for instance, Content goes unused on many XXXHolder pages
443: [03:13:17] <Ryan-Toast> I'm talking about market penetration, but I know that isn't SS's target market.
444: [03:13:18] <UncleCheese> i'm gonna write that shit
445: [03:13:19] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: Why would it to too hard to install?
446: [03:13:47] <antmas> zippy__: you underestimate pleb stupidity
447: [03:14:17] <simon_w> Run run run the provisioning script
448: [03:14:21] <simon_w> See where it fails
449: [03:14:21] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: You go and tell your everyday theme buyer to go to gut hub and download a zip file of the modules they want, extract them to the root and run a dewv/build ?flush=all and they will just shake their heads.
450: [03:14:32] <Ryan-Toast> github
451: [03:14:42] <antmas> GUThub
452: [03:14:42] <Ryan-Toast> wApple stop correcting my text, you dick.
453: [03:15:05] <antmas> GUTHub - needs to be a fast food joint
454: [03:15:15] <Ryan-Toast> for fat people
455: [03:15:25] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: yeah, autocorrect can go to he'll
456: [03:15:34] <antmas> lol ^
457: [03:15:48] <simon_w> Oh you people and your autocorrect problems
458: [03:15:51] <simon_w> So quaint
459: [03:16:03] <Ryan-Toast> If SS had a "drag your theme .zip here to install" I could see plebs getting behind it.
460: [03:16:14] * Kapdap quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
461: [03:16:20] <Ryan-Toast> but they're dumb, so no dice.
462: [03:16:27] <zippy__> shame you can't specify dependencies in a theme which it pulls in eh
463: [03:16:30] <Ryan-Toast> I'll just make another wrap bootstrap theme
464: [03:16:34] <UncleCheese> simon_w: what's a provisioning script?
465: [03:16:43] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: you got many of those?
466: [03:16:47] <zippy__> I brought a few
467: [03:17:09] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: If you could extend stuff in a theme that would be like totally coolio, big daddy
468: [03:17:12] <simon_w> UncleCheese, a script that does some provisioning for me
469: [03:17:17] <UncleCheese> nice
470: [03:17:28] <simon_w> Do you even dev ops?
471: [03:17:42] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: I had a couple, I removed them because support. But I'll make another one this week probs. Made a few grand off them.
472: [03:18:33] <Ryan-Toast> I'll update this, and add grunt the just build a couple themes on top of it: https://github.com/Rhym/Template
473: [03:19:17] <zippy__> why grunt and not gulp?
474: [03:19:54] <Colin[pi]> wtf... one of my mysql tables has vanished
475: [03:19:55] <Ryan-Toast> They do the same thing.
476: [03:20:06] <antmas> grunt is le tits
477: [03:21:08] <Colin[pi]> wtf I am doing a /dev/build and it's saying that a table doesn't exist
478: [03:21:24] <antmas> Colin[pi]: :O
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480: [03:22:38] <antmas> aight, home
481: [03:22:45] <antmas> cyall in the morn
482: [03:23:04] <Ryan-Toast> later
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484: [03:23:09] <Ryan-Toast> gator
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491: [03:54:03] <UncleCheese> hello. i really want to vent about a website FAIL
492: [03:54:07] <UncleCheese> does anyone want to listen?
493: [03:55:43] <willr> always
494: [03:55:48] <UncleCheese> ok
495: [03:55:52] <willr> was this your fail, or someone elses
496: [03:56:08] <UncleCheese> trying to pay student loans back to some hollow shell of a company back in the USA. Can't login
497: [03:56:21] <UncleCheese> it wants three credentials: School Code, Account #, and PIN #
498: [03:56:27] <UncleCheese> three things that i have no chance of knowing
499: [03:56:34] <UncleCheese> call the customer service line. On hold 55 minutes
500: [03:57:06] <UncleCheese> finally reach a person. she needs to talk to my wife in order to discuss her account. So I called her at home and put the two phones next to each other so she could talk
501: [03:57:14] <willr> International call right? Expensive..
502: [03:57:18] <UncleCheese> Skype
503: [03:57:28] <willr> good call
504: [03:57:30] <UncleCheese> Lady gives me the three secret codes, still can't login
505: [03:57:34] <UncleCheese> she says, oh i can
506: [03:57:36] <UncleCheese> well, i can't
507: [03:57:38] <UncleCheese> back and forth
508: [03:57:39] <UncleCheese> finally
509: [03:57:47] <UncleCheese> "Oh, are you by any chance using a Mac?"
510: [03:57:54] <UncleCheese> "yes"
511: [03:57:59] <UncleCheese> "Oh, it doesn't work on a Mac."
512: [03:58:18] <UncleCheese> put the phone down and walked away… gather my composure
513: [03:58:26] <UncleCheese> "You mean I can't log into your entire website.. at all.. using a Mac?"
514: [03:58:29] <UncleCheese> "No."
515: [03:58:48] <UncleCheese> "Please use a Windows machine."
516: [03:58:49] <Colin[pi]> wat
517: [03:58:50] <willr> VirtualBox?
518: [03:58:53] <UncleCheese> totally!
519: [03:58:57] <UncleCheese> I mean.. what the hell?!
520: [03:59:01] <Colin[pi]> no excuse for this, none
521: [03:59:04] <UncleCheese> can anyone think of what might explain that?
522: [03:59:11] <Colin[pi]> bad developers?
523: [03:59:16] <UncleCheese> I mean, it was the crustiest, old looking website I've ever seen
524: [03:59:21] <UncleCheese> looked like something from like 2001
525: [03:59:26] <Colin[pi]> yep, bad developers
526: [03:59:27] <UncleCheese> There was literally a ".exe" in the URL
527: [03:59:33] <Colin[pi]> eeyw
528: [03:59:41] <willr> If you were trying IE5 on a mac sure, but you would have to try really hard to make it not work on a mac
529: [03:59:45] <UncleCheese> all I can think is there was like an ActiveX plugin or something?
530: [04:00:03] <UncleCheese> but i mean, really.. it's a browser.. it's not like I was trying to log in using a Nintendo
531: [04:00:53] <willr> Can't pay, therefore won't.
532: [04:01:17] <UncleCheese> I wish it were that easy
533: [04:01:21] <UncleCheese> "I'm trying to give you money."
534: [04:01:31] <UncleCheese> "Well, we're trying to apply late fees"
535: [04:04:00] <willr> Well at least they could use your cash to hire you. Put the pitch in, deal to be had
536: [04:04:11] <UncleCheese> ha!
537: [04:04:17] <UncleCheese> yeah that's a sweet gig
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540: [04:17:15] <Colin[pi]> sounds like Paul Thurrott is done: http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/what-heck-happening-windows
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544: [04:23:12] <ss23> 14:57:05 <@simon_w> ss23, I'm writing an equivalent script to the one people want you to write!
545: [04:23:18] <ss23> what script do people want me tow rite?! :O
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547: [04:26:28] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: "Sadly, the result was Windows 8."
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555: [04:59:01] <simon_w> ss23, vagrant HHVM+SS
556: [04:59:21] <ss23> oic
557: [04:59:21] <ss23> :D
558: [04:59:25] <ss23> A+ would let you write it for me
559: [04:59:48] <simon_w> Yeah, it's not for vagrant or SS though
560: [04:59:59] <ss23> hahaha
561: [05:00:02] <ss23> HOW IS THAT EVEN CLOSE XD
562: [05:00:46] <Colin[pi]> my gf passed her english course, and can now study nursing at uni here ;D
563: [05:00:53] <Colin[pi]> she worked REALLY hard at that
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565: [05:08:23] <Colin[pi]> ss23!
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569: [05:10:13] <simon_w> Colin[pi], woo!
570: [05:10:21] <Colin[pi]> \o/
571: [05:10:44] <simon_w> ss23, it's still a HHVM provisioning script :p
572: [05:12:08] <Colin[pi]> new TLD's, eeuw: .camera, .equipment, .estate, .gallery, .graphics, .lighting, .photography
573: [05:12:34] <simon_w> Yeah, the new TLDs are jokes
574: [05:14:27] <Colin[pi]> I wonder how fast http://real.estate/ goes
575: [05:14:56] <simon_w> Aren't the new TLDs assigned to some commercial entity with way too much money?
576: [05:15:11] <Colin[pi]> dunno I just saw them being whored on the namecheap homepage
577: [05:16:01] <simon_w> Oh yes, then you have registrars like that that let you pre-register domain names
578: [05:18:08] <simon_w> My back's covered in sweat. Perfect time to go catch a bus home, right?
579: [05:21:45] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: what is it, like 18C?
580: [05:21:54] <simon_w> Colin[pi], gym
581: [05:22:26] <simon_w> Turns out the exercycles make me sweat a lot
582: [05:22:44] <Colin[pi]> yeah they'll do that
583: [05:22:59] <Colin[pi]> sweaty exercise is the best kind to take weight off though
584: [05:23:07] <simon_w> Yup
585: [05:23:15] <Colin[pi]> you doing a diet?
586: [05:23:21] <simon_w> Supposed to be
587: [05:23:32] <Colin[pi]> heh, best of luck man, I know it's not easy
588: [05:23:50] <simon_w> The lunch bits are the most annoying, especially if there's any sort of liquid-ish stuff
589: [05:24:26] <Colin[pi]> I know it works because I did it once, I went from 84kg to 67kg, by having salad for lunch every. single. day. and riding the bike most days
590: [05:24:45] <Colin[pi]> now I'm back to 80kg lol
591: [05:25:08] <simon_w> I'm 104 :p
592: [05:25:11] <simon_w> Should be around 80
593: [05:25:20] <Colin[pi]> what? no. what?
594: [05:25:36] <Colin[pi]> you didn't look like 104
595: [05:25:54] <simon_w> Broad+tall means it can spread out a bit
596: [05:26:03] <Colin[pi]> what's your height?
597: [05:26:09] <simon_w> 184
598: [05:26:17] <Colin[pi]> ah k, 6 more than me
599: [05:28:12] <simon_w> Ooh, turning the fan on was a good idea
600: [05:37:31] <Zauberfisch> haha, ss23
601: [05:37:35] <Zauberfisch> love that agile tweet :D
602: [05:38:58] <ss23> :D
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605: [05:45:56] <simon_w> Dammit, think I left my Snapper at the gym
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620: [07:01:19] <Zauberfisch> did i just read hhvm ss vagrant box in the scrollback?
621: [07:01:32] <Zauberfisch> simon_w|air, simon_w, ss23
622: [07:01:36] <simon_w|air> Yes you did
623: [07:01:41] <Zauberfisch> nice
624: [07:01:45] <simon_w|air> ss23 is supposed to be writing a script for it
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627: [07:02:36] <Zauberfisch> I'd be more than interested to see that
628: [07:03:19] <simon_w|air> Zauberfisch, got one for nginx, php-fpm and SS already?
629: [07:03:58] <Zauberfisch> never played with hhvm, but a vagrant box would be a perfect oportunity to try it
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631: [07:04:34] <Zauberfisch> simon_ sadly, no. for the usual reason: no time ...
632: [07:05:05] <simon_w|air> Then how are you supposed to basically add three lines to switch it to a HHVM script?
633: [07:06:11] <simon_w|air> Though, it'll be a bit more involved than that until 2.5.0 gets released
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635: [07:10:09] <Zauberfisch> ...
636: [07:11:17] <Zauberfisch> i really want to take the time to eork on te box, but wantig is not enough :/
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650: [09:15:42] <micmania1> Mornin'
651: [09:19:10] <Zauberfisch> good morning
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653: [09:29:06] <kinglozzer> Morning
654: [09:49:55] <Zauberfisch> ood morning
655: [09:49:59] <Zauberfisch> +g
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659: [09:52:18] <hubertusanton> my many_many_extraFields are not created on dev/build, first field is, second isnt. anyone had this problem as well?
660: [09:52:19] <hubertusanton> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/52f9ef7077e14
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662: [09:53:13] <pymk> Can't say I have hubertusanton
663: [09:53:17] <Zauberfisch> hubertusanton: did you add the 2nd one at a later time?
664: [09:53:40] <Zauberfisch> (have you run a dev/build between adding the first and the 2nd one)
665: [09:53:53] <Zauberfisch> if so, then my guess is that its a cache issue
666: [09:54:12] <Zauberfisch> as of 3.1 silverstripe also caches the private static properties
667: [09:54:26] <pymk> but refreshes such cache when building.
668: [09:54:36] <Zauberfisch> and there is a regression in /dev/build that it no longer flushes cache
669: [09:54:43] <Zauberfisch> so you have to do /dev/build?flush=1
670: [09:54:43] <pymk> oh
671: [09:54:52] <pymk> bummer
672: [09:54:56] <Zauberfisch> yeah
673: [09:55:04] <Zauberfisch> but its not that easy to fix
674: [09:55:13] <Zauberfisch> (I've been told)
675: [09:56:59] <hubertusanton> hi Zauberfisch, thanks for the reply. Yes i did run dev/build aftre first and second
676: [10:00:20] <pymk> hubertusanton: keep reading :) [09:54] <Zauberfisch> so you have to do /dev/build?flush=1
677: [10:00:20] <hubertusanton> and nope the flush=1 doesnt solve it.
678: [10:01:45] <hubertusanton> just doesnt get picked up by dev/build anymore, even when i add something else
679: [10:03:07] <hubertusanton> but it does when i add something else to the first many_many_extra
680: [10:03:36] <hubertusanton> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/52f9f2527643a
681: [10:03:39] <hubertusanton> thats odd
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683: [10:11:01] <pymk> hubertusanton: what about if you add a third thing? (maybe define the extra fields for the second relation twice
684: [10:11:03] <pymk> )
685: [10:11:11] <pymk> see what happens
686: [10:11:12] <hubertusanton> imported a db dump from before first dev/build and ran it again, still no Sort field in relation table
687: [10:11:58] <hubertusanton> the second many_many points to a sitetree object, no do, is that the problem?
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689: [10:16:45] <hubertusanton> not any field in the second many_many_extraField gets added ...
690: [10:17:09] <hubertusanton> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/52f9f57eb34d6
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695: [10:36:35] <Sj0hn> I got an javascript error when clicking on a modeladmin with dataobject i created: http://paste2.org/wFd4tVBm
696: [10:36:45] <Sj0hn> it doesnt load the page, it needs a refresh to do so
697: [10:37:25] <Zauberfisch> hubertusanton: did you got it working?
698: [10:42:47] <hubertusanton> yes, its my own fault. should get some more sleep :| typo in many_many not the same as many_many_extrafields
699: [10:43:01] <hubertusanton> srry for bothering
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701: [10:45:17] <Zauberfisch> Sj0hn: I am afraid your trace doesn't tell you much
702: [10:50:01] <Sj0hn> I thought so.. it's weird cuz i dont think my classes have any things off.. This is my dataobject: http://paste2.org/mmdhkKvk and this is my model admin: http://paste2.org/Ute48Uz5
703: [10:50:40] <Sj0hn> just a very basic banner module
704: [10:52:02] <Zauberfisch> I don't see anything wrong with it
705: [10:52:26] <Zauberfisch> whats the error message?
706: [10:53:26] <pymk> hubertusanton: oh I hate that. Glad you found it! :)
707: [10:53:45] <Sj0hn> there's only a javascript error
708: [10:53:47] <Sj0hn> basicly
709: [10:53:52] <Sj0hn> the first one i pasted
710: [10:54:18] <Sj0hn> it just doesnt load the page right away.. you need to manualy refresh
711: [11:09:47] <Sj0hn> it also doesnt want to upload images.. stuck at 0%
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713: [11:12:39] <Zauberfisch> Sj0hn: no idea
714: [11:12:48] <Zauberfisch> perhaps a whitepsace problem?
715: [11:13:20] <Zauberfisch> check firebug for the ajax repsonses
716: [11:13:29] <Zauberfisch> do the responses contain whitespaces at the beginning?
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720: [11:26:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#135 (pulls/dateformat-simplified - 9377e82 : Ingo Schommer): The build has errored.
721: [11:26:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/e217d42090d4^...9377e8241a12
722: [11:26:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/18645013
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724: [11:30:30] <Sj0hn> well then
725: [11:30:38] <Sj0hn> it works in firefox
726: [11:36:37] <Sj0hn> http://paste2.org/JJd23h9d
727: [11:37:18] <Sj0hn> this is the response from GET http://butlersguild.dimademo.nl/admin/banners/Banner/EditForm/field/Banner/item/new
728: [11:37:19] <Sj0hn>
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730: [11:39:04] <r3v3rb> morning (just)
731: [11:39:28] <r3v3rb> is it possible to create a 'styled' submit button for a frontend form?
732: [11:40:01] <r3v3rb> ie use <input type='button' class='xyz' />
733: [11:40:19] <r3v3rb> my form action always creates <input type='submit'
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735: [11:46:02] <Sj0hn> Doesnt like look a whitespace problem
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737: [11:49:55] <ec8or__> has anyone seen this, when accessing Files in the admin: ERROR [User Error]: Uncaught Exception: Object->__call(): the method 'numchildren' does not exist on 'GalleryImage'
738: [11:50:15] <ec8or__> my GalleryImage extends DataObject and has_one Image
739: [12:00:54] <ec8or__> i had some old Image extension entries in the db
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743: [12:36:58] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Do you mean <button>XYZ</button> ?
744: [12:37:09] <r3v3rb> crap, just had a client ask 'is it possible to add a url shortner into the CMS'
745: [12:37:41] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: I've kind of got around the form action I needed to set it up with a src is setAttributes
746: [12:37:59] <kinglozzer> ->setUseButtonTag(true); for a <button> tag
747: [12:38:04] <r3v3rb> then it became type="button" but still submits the form
748: [12:38:36] <r3v3rb> any thoughts on a URL Shortner using their own domain name as a part of it?
749: [12:40:16] <pymk> r3v3rb: you mean like how simon_w|air has one for simon.geek.nz?
750: [12:40:29] <r3v3rb> pymk: yes
751: [12:40:38] <pymk> No.
752: [12:40:43] <r3v3rb> lol
753: [12:40:46] <pymk> (no thoughts)
754: [12:42:05] <pymk> r3v3rb: you basically just need to make a unique hash on the URL or whatever, then store it along with the full url and create a controller to fetch and display them (and probably a rule to facilitate said controller in 'short' fashion)
755: [12:42:22] <pymk> like blah.tld/s/a34e9
756: [12:42:41] <pymk> seems too easy, apart from all the checking for unique hash (that is also short).
757: [12:42:42] <r3v3rb> pymk: indeed, seems like overkill to me but I'll code it anyway
758: [12:43:00] <pymk> r3v3rb: well if you're getting paid for it, it's not an overly complex request...
759: [12:43:15] <pymk> ... until they go "how can I use this from inside the CMS page editor?"
760: [12:43:22] <r3v3rb> no its been added as part of the overall project
761: [12:43:29] <pymk> in which case you hang yourself because tinymce.
762: [12:43:48] <pymk> don't forget to leave a note explicitly blaming the client though.
763: [12:43:55] <r3v3rb> pymk: I'll say they have to copy paste the links generated
764: [12:44:01] <pymk> mm
765: [12:44:02] <r3v3rb> indeed
766: [12:44:04] <pymk> :P
767: [12:44:30] <pymk> Not sure why someone would want one for /within/ a website
768: [12:44:45] <pymk> but if they're making links on the twitters then it's not such a weird request
769: [12:45:00] <pymk> except that the twit interface shortens stuff automagically
770: [12:46:18] <pymk> ec8or__: no not seen it, suggest that something (probably php rather than template) is operating on your gallery image with some legacy code for a different model structure
771: [12:47:46] <r3v3rb> pymk: she believes she is a 'web' goddess
772: [12:47:56] <r3v3rb> and understands everything better than everyone else
773: [12:48:45] <r3v3rb> :\ however she has extremely long legs - so who am I to argue...
774: [12:54:39] <pymk> hahaha
775: [12:55:01] <pymk> probably how she feels such a way, no one says no because legs like a spider :P
776: [12:56:02] <pymk> r3v3rb: tell her shortened urls shit for SEO, (the three letters that supply an instant out of jail free card)
777: [12:56:26] <r3v3rb> ;) good shout
778: [12:57:24] <pymk> relax, don't do it, etc.
779: [13:03:43] <r3v3rb> :)
780: [13:03:52] <r3v3rb> spidery legs though...
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782: [13:06:43] <pymk> yeh coz puns and stuff
783: [13:06:54] <pymk> tricksy bitches weaving webs
784: [13:06:56] <pymk> website woman
785: [13:07:06] <pymk> long legs, leads to sticky situation
786: [13:07:07] <pymk> etc
787: [13:07:47] <pymk> uses legs to devour men who oppose her webgoddess status
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791: [13:20:32] <r3v3rb> ewww pymk
792: [13:25:40] <r3v3rb> jquery('form').submit or jquery('form.button').click for ajax submission... best practice
793: [13:25:56] <Zauberfisch> submit
794: [13:26:05] <r3v3rb> ie, should a 'return' in the form fire the form and ajax or just the click of the button
795: [13:26:27] <Zauberfisch> yes, I enjoy submitting forms by hitting enter
796: [13:26:55] <r3v3rb> its a single field newsletter sign up - I can see lots of people hitting enter to send the form
797: [13:29:52] <r3v3rb> got it, type=button wasn't submitting whereas type=image does :D
798: [13:30:02] * r3v3rb forgets so much these days...
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800: [13:43:11] <pymk> r3v3rb: submit doesn't carry the action over too, you'll need to add it.
801: [13:43:26] <pymk> also, submit works on submit, not just for clicking.
802: [13:43:40] <pymk> worst usability ever when enter resets the form instead of submitting it, etc.
803: [13:47:58] <r3v3rb> pymk: turns out client actually only required a 'virtualpage' where she could create her own url to point to another pages content - those long legs will be wrapped round me by the end of the month!
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807: [13:54:29] <pymk> rofl r3v3rb, don't let your wife hear you say that!
808: [13:54:54] <pymk> also, CMS comes with virtual page.
809: [13:55:24] <r3v3rb> exactly!
810: [13:55:43] <r3v3rb> she just sent me a roses are red poem... arhhhh how sweet
811: [13:56:01] * r3v3rb lmao - she's so young and naive
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813: [14:17:53] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Your wife did? Or crazy mutant spider lady?
814: [14:20:50] <micmania1> cazy mutant spider ladies are the worse kind of ladies.
815: [14:21:33] <Zauberfisch> most interesting topic of conversation
816: [14:22:17] <r3v3rb> crazy mutant spider leg lady
817: [14:22:20] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer:
818: [14:22:29] <kinglozzer> That's... weird...
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820: [14:22:41] <kinglozzer> Or was it to go on the website or something? :P
821: [14:22:45] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: I think she has a thing for gnomes
822: [14:23:59] <r3v3rb> hmm, does phpstorm support js debugging or not
823: [14:27:49] <pymk> does phpstorm support red rose poems?
824: [14:28:06] <pymk> micmania1: to be fair... correct.
825: [14:33:30] <micmania1> I'd say so.
826: [14:38:35] * r3v3rb needs coke
827: [14:40:26] <Zauberfisch> r3v3rb: https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/webhelp/running-and-debugging-javascript.html
828: [14:42:10] <r3v3rb> thanks Zauberfisch I'll read when I get back from collecting the children from school
829: [14:42:15] <r3v3rb> bbl
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831: [15:18:29] <pymk> fk'n... work should also be 9 - 3
832: [15:18:44] <pymk> with an hour lunch and 2x 1/4 hr breaks.
833: [15:19:02] <pymk> keep things consistent.
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839: [16:21:54] <kinglozzer> pymk
840: [16:22:00] <kinglozzer> + Sounds fair
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842: [16:35:42] <pymk> oh there we are
843: [16:36:00] <pymk> "Zend Studio - built on ecclipse" No wonder it's so rubbish!
844: [16:36:03] <pymk> Zauberfisch: :>
845: [16:36:29] <pymk> kinglozzer: send the government a petition.
846: [16:37:06] <micmania1> pymk: I'm back on with that w*rdpress site...fuck.
847: [16:37:49] <pymk> word it crafty like "Maybe if the work day was 9-3 then the people working in the banks wouldn't be so fucking incompetent they stifle any prosperity or advancement in this country"
848: [16:37:56] <kinglozzer> I'd petition for a siesta like they have in Spain
849: [16:38:05] <kinglozzer> I'd love a little nap around 3pm
850: [16:38:05] <pymk> micmania1: just rebuild the fucking thing in SS and be all "done!"
851: [16:38:18] <pymk> kinglozzer: but then you gotta wake up :<
852: [16:38:24] <kinglozzer> True
853: [16:38:39] <pymk> also, sleeping with workmates never ends well...
854: [16:38:40] <kinglozzer> If they accept the 9-3 petition we could have a siesta that you don't have to wake up from :D
855: [16:38:46] <pymk> :P
856: [16:38:47] <kinglozzer> I wouldn't know :P
857: [16:39:03] <pymk> kinglozzer: but you want to try?
858: [16:39:21] <pymk> although, crafty, if you finish at 3 you can go home and not have to nap with workmates :P
859: [16:39:45] <pymk> omfg your country and roads man
860: [16:39:48] <pymk> what the hell.
861: [16:39:52] <pymk> every day
862: [16:40:00] <pymk> "truck fucked itself, blocking motorway"
863: [16:40:05] <kinglozzer> We're an all male office atm
864: [16:40:14] <pymk> "Swan on road, no one moved it off yet because it's someone elses job"
865: [16:40:22] <kinglozzer> That said, there are some nice girls in the same building (shared office space)
866: [16:40:29] <pymk> today it's "CAR ON FIRE, MOTORWAY BLOCKED"
867: [16:40:34] <pymk> what the actual fuck.
868: [16:40:43] <kinglozzer> Yeah, "mirror fell off a car, motorway shut for 3 weeks"
869: [16:40:54] <pymk> kinglozzer: now is the time for your winter of your content!
870: [16:42:06] <pymk> wtf
871: [16:42:12] <pymk> dear php, y u no send file?
872: [16:42:27] <r3v3rb> god this site becomes more inane the more I work on it
873: [16:42:45] <pymk> oh, because someone hardcoded the directory of the generated on the fly files, and the dev env obviously differs.
874: [16:42:50] <pymk> that makes sense.
875: [16:43:03] <pymk> r3v3rb: what is crazy spider lady got you doing now?
876: [16:43:09] <r3v3rb> pymk: the accounts one... responsive css = done, core cms functions = done
877: [16:43:10] <pymk> she's spinning a web of traps, I tells you
878: [16:43:35] <r3v3rb> pymk: she's gone all quiet thank goodness - more of that type of talk and I'll be in trouble
879: [16:45:51] <r3v3rb> right time to feed children, then back to work...
880: [16:46:06] <r3v3rb> bbl
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883: [16:51:42] <kinglozzer> Wow, today has actually gone really quickly D:
884: [17:05:09] <pymk> it happens kinglozzer
885: [17:06:24] <kinglozzer> I've been rebuilding our own site
886: [17:06:38] <kinglozzer> I usually hate front-end work as well
887: [17:10:22] <kinglozzer> Anyways
888: [17:10:24] <kinglozzer> Ciao <3
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890: [17:11:43] <catcher> micmania1, why??
891: [17:12:50] <micmania1> why what? lol
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893: [17:20:28] <catcher> micmania1> pymk: I'm back on with that w*rdpress site...fuck.
894: [17:21:08] <r3v3rb> tada
895: [17:21:21] <r3v3rb> micmania1> pymk: I'm back on with that w*rdpress site...fuck. <- lmao
896: [17:22:00] <micmania1> catcher, just because :(
897: [17:22:08] <micmania1> it fucking sucks
898: [17:22:12] <micmania1> anyway g2g
899: [17:22:13] <micmania1> cyas
900: [17:29:33] <pymk> yep, tme to leave!
901: [17:29:41] <pymk> leave now, home by 7
902: [17:29:42] <pymk> xD
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908: [18:17:39] <simon_w|air> r3v3rb, http://paste-app.net/m/yby-1nlfv is my redirect handler, then I have a route from s//$ID to RedirectController
909: [18:18:10] <r3v3rb> simon_w|air: thanks :)
910: [18:18:26] <simon_w|air> That just uses page IDs
911: [18:18:46] <r3v3rb> turns out the client only needed a 'VirtualPage' in the end! - she just thought it was called a short url...
912: [18:19:40] <Zauberfisch> :D
913: [18:19:41] <r3v3rb> mind if I copy it for future usage though?
914: [18:19:51] <r3v3rb> Zauberfisch: you have to wonder sometimes
915: [18:20:16] <simon_w|air> r3v3rb, go for it
916: [18:20:20] <r3v3rb> cheers
917: [18:20:50] * r3v3rb builds the next bit.ly using simon_w|air's code ;)
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919: [18:21:05] <simon_w|air> r3v3rb, I've got different code for that :p
920: [18:21:45] <r3v3rb> is that the one that produces the ss.org.nz stuff
921: [18:22:02] <simon_w|air> Well, that's not SilverStripe backed
922: [18:22:51] <r3v3rb> sure, i wonder how well ss framework would cope with a public bit.ly type service
923: [18:23:10] * r3v3rb ponders
924: [18:23:37] <simon_w|air> You wouldn't want to use SS for it
925: [18:23:40] <simon_w|air> Way too much overhead
926: [18:23:53] <r3v3rb> node.js then ?
927: [18:24:22] <simon_w|air> Or just an actual framework, rather than a CMS
928: [18:24:48] <r3v3rb> so cake or something similar
929: [18:24:58] <r3v3rb> rather than the ss framework
930: [18:25:15] <simon_w|air> Yeah, with heavy caching in front of it
931: [18:27:00] <guzzlefry> How does the subsites thingy work?
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933: [18:28:00] <r3v3rb> call me old, but I don't get why any one would actually want url's of bit.ly/1a4sS45 other than the 'free' click tracking it seems stupid to mask your real link text in such a manner :\
934: [18:28:41] <simon_w|air> Twitter
935: [18:28:45] <simon_w|air> Anyway, time to go to work
936: [18:28:51] <guzzlefry> IRC has limits as well. :P
937: [18:28:56] <r3v3rb> but twatter does it automagically
938: [18:29:07] <simon_w|air> Didn't used to
939: [18:29:10] <r3v3rb> true
940: [18:29:25] <r3v3rb> so it grew from twatter then
941: [18:29:31] <r3v3rb> that I get I guess
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943: [18:30:21] <r3v3rb> time to stop the responsive 'pop' i have going on at 769px
944: [18:30:38] <r3v3rb> then call it a day for paid work and start free stuff :| grrr
945: [18:37:45] <guzzlefry> Are you making the site pop?
946: [18:38:18] <guzzlefry> I've been doing free stuff for Silverstripe lately since work is kind of dead. >_>
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954: [19:56:42] <Ryan-Toast> guzzlefry: Like what?
955: [20:00:19] <Ryan-Toast> deep deep, didn't see him leave.
956: [20:00:22] <Ryan-Toast> derp**
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964: [20:12:03] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: please don't leave your derp all over the floor like that
965: [20:12:15] <Ryan-Toast> But I am le tired.
966: [20:12:20] <r3v3rb> me too
967: [20:12:41] <catcher> Best way to prevent a page type from appearing in the CMS dropdown? (its subclasses should be able to be created)
968: [20:12:42] <Ryan-Toast> Referencing that old flash video btw, I do not condone the use of "le"
969: [20:13:15] <catcher> And he left his deep all over the floor first.
970: [20:13:27] <Ryan-Toast> I'm sick, and my Doctors are all booked up until tomorrow night ><
971: [20:13:28] <r3v3rb> catcher: i know, he's a sick puppy
972: [20:14:24] <Ryan-Toast> http://i.imgur.com/NByH1.gif
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976: [20:20:27] <catcher> haha
977: [20:21:25] <Ryan-Toast> I was confused how I left and joined the chat room for a second.
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980: [20:23:03] <antmas> morning al
981: [20:23:05] <antmas> all*
982: [20:23:28] <Ryan-Toast> pop pop
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985: [20:36:18] <r3v3rb> now, should I close editors and spend time afk, or carry on...
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988: [20:49:49] <guzzlefry> help help help
989: [20:50:54] <guzzlefry> I added canView() on my OrderLine object. The user of the permitted group still can't view them.
990: [20:51:03] <guzzlefry> And the canView() method isn't called.
991: [20:51:41] <guzzlefry> This is while viewing the OrderAdmin for Order objects, which have a many-many to OrderLine.
992: [20:52:52] <guzzlefry> Any ideas?
993: [20:53:03] <micmania1> got a code example?
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996: [20:54:19] <SphereSilverNL> Anyone who can answer me this?
997: [20:54:34] <r3v3rb> 3
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1000: [20:54:45] <SphereSilverNL> Explain me this. Is storing passwords in a plaintext file not a problem, if said program is for FTP-connections, which uses an unsafe connection method?
1001: [20:54:49] <catcher> guzzlefry, they can't see the admin? Or the objects inside the admin?
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1003: [20:56:04] <guzzlefry> catcher: There's a GridField showing Order objects on the OrderAdmin section. Those I had to add a canView/canEdit() for. When I go into one of those orders, there's a tab for Items, which are OrderLine objects. Those show up as empty strings.
1004: [20:56:19] <guzzlefry> I have canView() on the OrderLine DataObject, but it's not called. :/
1005: [20:56:47] <catcher> guzzlefry, is your GF showing 0 records? Or many with no titles?
1006: [20:57:26] <guzzlefry> It's showing the records for Order.
1007: [20:57:36] <guzzlefry> The canView() method for Order is being called for that...
1008: [20:57:41] <guzzlefry> just not the relations on Order.
1009: [21:00:30] <guzzlefry> Well, the docs say nothing helpful.
1010: [21:00:39] <r3v3rb> SphereSilverNL: I'd say wrong regardless of the connection - it should still be encrypted
1011: [21:00:53] <catcher> guzzlefry, are you able to see them when you're logged in as an admin?
1012: [21:01:03] <guzzlefry> yep
1013: [21:02:09] <catcher> guzzlefry, does OrderLine subclass DataObject or something else?
1014: [21:02:23] <guzzlefry> DataObject
1015: [21:02:29] <SphereSilverNL> r3v3rb: My thoughts exactly. But appearantly some disagree and say "if the protocol the program uses is unsafe, it doesn't matter because you can sniff them out"
1016: [21:02:49] <guzzlefry> wait
1017: [21:02:51] <guzzlefry> I take it back
1018: [21:03:11] <guzzlefry> admin can't view them either...I broke something.
1019: [21:03:15] <catcher> yup
1020: [21:03:17] <catcher> :)
1021: [21:03:33] <SphereSilverNL> Any proxy setup?
1022: [21:03:42] <ss23> WHY IS IT IF I MENTION SOMETHING< IT TURNS INTO SIMON_W SAYING I'M NOW DOING IT
1023: [21:03:45] <ss23> ;_;
1024: [21:03:52] <r3v3rb> SphereSilverNL: in that case I should just give away all my money in my wallet because it isn't secure?
1025: [21:03:54] <ss23> simon_w|air: SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE WRITING THE VAGRANT + HHVM + SS SCRIPT :D
1026: [21:04:08] <r3v3rb> ss23: because
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1029: [21:04:14] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/b9ee4c436030...5e38ef9e5537
1030: [21:04:14] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/18680800
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1032: [21:04:24] <simon_w> ss23, yeah, good luck with getting that to actually happen :p
1033: [21:04:44] <r3v3rb> wasn't Zauberfisch looking at vagrant and ss
1034: [21:04:59] <r3v3rb> ;) Zauberfisch I remember most things you mention...
1035: [21:05:02] <simon_w> r3v3rb, yeah, but with Apache and mod_php
1036: [21:05:07] <r3v3rb> ok
1037: [21:05:19] <SphereSilverNL> r3v3rb: I'm trying to convince someone it's a very bad fact that Filezilla stores passwords, together with the server and username, in plaintext.
1038: [21:05:37] <SphereSilverNL> His argument as to why it isn't bad is "Because FTP is unsafe and sniffable"
1039: [21:06:27] <ss23> simon_w: Do we have a general "you should have reported this on security@silverstripe instead"
1040: [21:06:58] <simon_w> ss23, nope
1041: [21:07:04] <catcher> SphereSilverNL, if a login attempt isn't happening currently (or isn't stored), the credentials can't be sniffed.
1042: [21:07:09] <simon_w> I got one back when I fixed DataObject::get_by_id though
1043: [21:07:21] <guzzlefry> SphereSilverNL: storing SFTP creds is even worse. >_>
1044: [21:07:29] <ss23> hahaha simon_w
1045: [21:07:31] <catcher> If they're stored, they can be easily attained even if they're not being transfered.
1046: [21:07:41] <simon_w> guzzlefry, using a password with SFTP is just stupid :p
1047: [21:07:43] <SphereSilverNL> I know ;) I'm trying to convince some stubborn fuck that storing passwords in plaintext is bad ;)
1048: [21:08:02] <SphereSilverNL> Anything over SSH should be a public/private key-pairing
1049: [21:08:03] <guzzlefry> simon_w: I resemble that remark!
1050: [21:08:04] <simon_w> ss23, didn't use to check for/cast to int, so things taking ID from URL where injectable
1051: [21:08:08] <r3v3rb> SphereSilverNL: his reasons are poor, but also valid
1052: [21:08:18] <SphereSilverNL> But be sure to use a condom, otherwise you'll get baby-keys
1053: [21:08:57] <SphereSilverNL> r3v3rb: Despite the protocol being unsafe, a program, related to the protocol or not, storing it's user/password combination in plaintext is bad.
1054: [21:09:27] <ss23> simon_w: jesus :/
1055: [21:09:36] <ss23> simon_w: I thought that existed, but when I checked it was fixed
1056: [21:09:43] <simon_w> ss23, only happened in one place though. Back in 2.2
1057: [21:09:43] <r3v3rb> right time to fix up this little ajax panel I promised someone - yonks ago...
1058: [21:10:31] <r3v3rb> quality tv - 200 nip and tucks and I want more! - UK tv at its finest... ugh
1059: [21:10:39] <guzzlefry> okay, so my canView() works, but this is breaking viewing of relations for everyone (admin and group member) : public function canEdit($member = null) { $this->canView($member); }
1060: [21:10:50] <simon_w> guzzlefry, return $this...
1061: [21:10:57] <guzzlefry> Tell me what I'm doing stupid. :P
1062: [21:11:02] <SphereSilverNL> r3v3rb: To add to it, it is a default location where said program stores this XML with login-data ;)
1063: [21:11:04] <guzzlefry> huh?
1064: [21:11:09] <ss23> ah k
1065: [21:11:12] <simon_w> guzzlefry, return $this->canView($member)
1066: [21:11:18] <simon_w> guzzlefry, you have to return a value :p
1067: [21:11:20] <guzzlefry> oh ffs
1068: [21:11:26] <ss23> simon_w: I know a lot of code (mine included) relies on the casting/check behaviour of get_by_id now
1069: [21:11:37] <simon_w> ss23, you're welcome :p
1070: [21:11:38] * guzzlefry destroys desk with head.
1071: [21:11:39] <guzzlefry> thanks simon_w
1072: [21:11:43] <r3v3rb> lmao guzzlefry I did that in a public function index() yesterday!
1073: [21:11:44] <ss23> lol
1074: [21:11:45] <ss23> ty ty :P
1075: [21:11:52] <SphereSilverNL> I sure hope you don't have a glass desk guzzlefry
1076: [21:12:30] <guzzlefry> particle board
1077: [21:13:02] <antmas> particle board?
1078: [21:13:11] <antmas> like chip board?
1079: [21:13:12] <catcher> they have a fight, triangle wins, particle board
1080: [21:13:13] <SphereSilverNL> It's new
1081: [21:13:17] <SphereSilverNL> It supports tunneling
1082: [21:13:27] <guzzlefry> antmas: maybe...?
1083: [21:13:33] <catcher> (someone, please get that reference)
1084: [21:13:45] <guzzlefry> antmas: A bunch of wood chips and resin pressed together to form wood. :P
1085: [21:13:55] <antmas> guzzlefry: yeah, basically chip board
1086: [21:13:56] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: is your full width slider inherently 'glued' to bootstrap?
1087: [21:14:12] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: hmm?
1088: [21:14:27] <r3v3rb> sorry, didn't mean to wake you Ryan-Toast
1089: [21:14:30] <SphereSilverNL> catcher: Despite me not knowing any reference, I'm guessing, it's a 90's song?
1090: [21:14:39] <catcher> SphereSilverNL, affirmative.
1091: [21:14:46] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: How do you mean?
1092: [21:15:04] <r3v3rb> is the css based completely on bootstrao
1093: [21:15:06] <r3v3rb> pppp
1094: [21:15:16] <SphereSilverNL> 90's. I was born in 83... I don't know anything but Nirvana. This requires Wikipedia
1095: [21:15:39] <ss23> simon_w: https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/2843 wanna fix?
1096: [21:15:42] <ss23> should be simple enough
1097: [21:15:43] <guzzlefry> Well this is interesting. Group members can view Member data?
1098: [21:16:00] <SphereSilverNL> catcher: Wikipedia ftw. Particle Marn by "They might be Giants.
1099: [21:16:01] <simon_w> ss23, rm -rf thirdparty!
1100: [21:16:01] <r3v3rb> catcher: i'm a 70's baby but still don't get that reference
1101: [21:16:07] <guzzlefry> Actually, maybe the CSV Export button is bypassing the check?
1102: [21:16:16] <antmas> 80s baby FTW
1103: [21:16:17] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: yarp, it's their carousel thing http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#carousel
1104: [21:16:25] <r3v3rb> oh right, okay
1105: [21:16:37] <catcher> r3v3rb, you have an excuse, not growing up with Animaniacs.
1106: [21:16:39] <ss23> lol
1107: [21:16:40] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: Would be easy to implement any slider you wanted though
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1109: [21:17:26] <r3v3rb> just watching some man on tv who has had his eyeball whites dyed red...
1110: [21:17:32] <r3v3rb> fookin wierdo
1111: [21:18:01] <SphereSilverNL> I would do that! And than run around and making sounds like a zombie!
1112: [21:18:06] <ss23> simon_w: UNIT TESTS NOW FAIL
1113: [21:18:07] <ss23> SOZ
1114: [21:18:18] <simon_w> ss23, FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT
1115: [21:18:23] <SphereSilverNL> burrrrrrrr brains! brrrrrooooaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhgurglegurglegurgle
1116: [21:18:25] <r3v3rb> SphereSilverNL: he's had his tongue forked too
1117: [21:18:56] <antmas> :O
1118: [21:19:02] <SphereSilverNL> But I like my tongue! It does things like tasting stuff and stuff like that. I'm not gonna fork my tongue!
1119: [21:19:02] <antmas> zippy__: disaster
1120: [21:19:08] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: What slider did you want to use?
1121: [21:19:11] <zippy__> antmas: oh?
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1123: [21:19:20] <antmas> zippy__: Rob Roys is shutting down :(
1124: [21:19:26] <SphereSilverNL> good riddens! (joke!)
1125: [21:19:39] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: none, I was going to hack yours for the site I'm putting together for when they want an animated slider
1126: [21:19:47] <zippy__> antmas: doh!
1127: [21:19:50] <antmas> no more $10 burgers or BLTs for antmas :<
1128: [21:20:01] <zippy__> antmas: Did you get a V at 1~ yestuerday?
1129: [21:20:05] <SphereSilverNL> Because tomorrow is wednesday?
1130: [21:20:31] <zippy__> When ever I am around the council building, I always see people and think, I wonder if that is antmas :)
1131: [21:20:36] <antmas> zippy__: nope, I was at BK at around ~1 though I think
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1133: [21:22:03] <zippy__> mmmm bk
1134: [21:22:47] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: This is the best animated slider: http://codecanyon.net/item/slider-revolution-responsive-jquery-plugin/2580848
1135: [21:23:31] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: indeed, I already have it :D
1136: [21:23:51] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: ah, right :P
1137: [21:24:08] <Ryan-Toast> that would abe a fucking mission to implement a dynamic version.
1138: [21:24:13] <Colin[pi]> I like this one: http://www.pixedelic.com/plugins/camera/
1139: [21:24:14] <Ryan-Toast> I think just static the shit out of it
1140: [21:24:36] <Ryan-Toast> I hate heavy sliders.
1141: [21:26:43] <antmas> zippy__: dat Outlaw burger
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1144: [21:30:35] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: i also have this one but its a bit clunky when resizing browser windows http://dimsemenov.com/plugins/royal-slider/full-width/
1145: [21:30:59] <Ryan-Toast> CSS3 transitions ftw
1146: [21:31:18] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: that is cool! How long did you spend making your last bootstrap theme?
1147: [21:31:36] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: What';s cool?
1148: [21:31:41] <zippy__> That slider
1149: [21:31:45] <zippy__> 'best animated slider'
1150: [21:31:46] <Ryan-Toast> Not my slider
1151: [21:31:55] <Ryan-Toast> :P
1152: [21:32:01] <Ryan-Toast> WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
1153: [21:32:11] <Ryan-Toast> My brain is addled with painkillers.
1154: [21:32:15] <zippy__> my message was two part :)
1155: [21:32:21] <r3v3rb> Colin[pi]: camera is great but not responsive :\
1156: [21:32:31] <Ryan-Toast> Would be easy to make responsive.
1157: [21:32:43] <zippy__> first one, saying that it was a cool slider. The second part was in reference to your comment yesterday about a bootstrap theme you made, wondered how long it took you to make
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1159: [21:33:08] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: and full width in a div with image centering?
1160: [21:33:09] <Ryan-Toast> Ah, right. Usually like half a day?
1161: [21:33:14] <Colin[pi]> r3v3rb: ummmmm... it is response?
1162: [21:33:20] <Colin[pi]> *responsive
1163: [21:33:25] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: Really, half a day?
1164: [21:33:29] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: It's a setting, you can make the slider full width, or constrained.
1165: [21:33:37] <Ryan-Toast> zippy_: Yarp.
1166: [21:33:38] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: what in camera??
1167: [21:33:52] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: Why not just spend a week making 10 of them, and then relax for a month?
1168: [21:33:55] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: Oh, no. Thought you were talking about boilerplate
1169: [21:34:00] <r3v3rb> lol
1170: [21:34:12] <Ryan-Toast> zippy_: I don't usually design them.
1171: [21:34:27] <Ryan-Toast> So I make as meany as people design for me to make.
1172: [21:34:31] <Ryan-Toast> many**
1173: [21:34:43] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: right so design + your time would be more like a couple of days then
1174: [21:34:49] <Ryan-Toast> yeah.
1175: [21:34:54] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: looks like camera supports image alignment in full-width :D
1176: [21:35:03] <r3v3rb> http://www.pixedelic.com/plugins/camera/development/camera_1.0.6/demo/fullscreen.htm
1177: [21:35:06] <Colin[pi]> r3v3rb: camera is the one I use on most of my sites, i.e. www.praxis.net.au - try resizing
1178: [21:35:36] <Ryan-Toast> This was the last thing I designed: https://github.com/Rhym/Quote
1179: [21:35:46] <Ryan-Toast> hmm, it doesn't shave a screenshot
1180: [21:35:49] <Ryan-Toast> one sec
1181: [21:35:59] <zippy__> http://demo.ryanpotter.co.nz/quote/ :(
1182: [21:36:20] <Ryan-Toast> Yeah I took it down because I didm;'t add any security shit to it :P
1183: [21:36:35] <Ryan-Toast> Realised that when I had people try to hack me.
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1185: [21:37:05] <Ryan-Toast> looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/leBtFGs.png
1186: [21:37:18] <zippy__> flash
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1189: [21:38:17] <Ryan-Toast> I started just copying this last night: http://demo.visualkicks.com/crush/minimal/
1190: [21:38:30] <Colin[pi]> looks cool Ryan-Toast
1191: [21:38:32] <Ryan-Toast> when I'm done I'll just change the look and feel and sell it as a wrapbootstrap
1192: [21:39:35] <antmas> ah the life of a theme creator :D
1193: [21:39:36] <Ryan-Toast> Just need to find a designer I like. I've advertised on reddit a couple of times and had some horrific portfolios sent my way.
1194: [21:40:16] <Ryan-Toast> I enjoy making themes in my spare time, it's relaxing because you don't have to work with clients at all and you just make whatever the fuck you want.
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1196: [21:40:32] <Ryan-Toast> Good way to keep up with trends/new tech etc.
1197: [21:40:50] <Ryan-Toast> And you don't have to make god damn wirteframmmmmesssss
1198: [21:40:55] <Ryan-Toast> wire**
1199: [21:41:38] <antmas> anyone know of someone who works for Zeald?
1200: [21:41:51] <Ryan-Toast> Slaves
1201: [21:42:07] <antmas> lol^
1202: [21:42:13] <antmas> I see that TV ad ALL the time now
1203: [21:42:31] <Ryan-Toast> Really?
1204: [21:42:38] <Ryan-Toast> I don't watch TV.
1205: [21:42:42] <Ryan-Toast> so I haven't seen it.
1206: [21:42:43] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: I thought you were a designer lol
1207: [21:42:47] <antmas> yeah it's on a LOT
1208: [21:43:00] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: Front-end dev, learning back-end stuff :)
1209: [21:43:18] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: you make wireframes...
1210: [21:43:28] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: Because there are only two devs.
1211: [21:43:34] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: So someone has to.,
1212: [21:43:56] <Ryan-Toast> Wireframes for all the dynamic stuff I'll build, then it goes tot the designers who skin it.
1213: [21:44:06] <Ryan-Toast> then back to me to build.
1214: [21:44:37] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: what do you use?
1215: [21:44:46] <Ryan-Toast> Balsamiq
1216: [21:44:58] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: do you rate it?
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1218: [21:45:13] <zippy__> I've used balsamiq, it's quite good
1219: [21:45:28] <Colin[pi]> Balsamiq is the tits, it's awesome
1220: [21:45:36] <antmas> yeah I hear many good things
1221: [21:45:37] <Ryan-Toast> It does the job...but I hate wire framing, so I may be biased towards hating all programs that are related.
1222: [21:45:57] <Ryan-Toast> Could make wireframes faster in code.
1223: [21:45:59] <Ryan-Toast> tbh
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1225: [21:46:30] <antmas> the one good thing about sharepoint so far
1226: [21:46:38] <antmas> is the css processing
1227: [21:46:43] <antmas> much like sass
1228: [21:46:55] <Ryan-Toast> How so?
1229: [21:47:09] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: variables, mixins etc
1230: [21:47:19] <Ryan-Toast> ...why not just use sass then?
1231: [21:47:46] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: this is default, I'd rather not reinvent the wheel when delaing with SP
1232: [21:47:47] <antmas> :P
1233: [21:47:55] <antmas> dealing*
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1235: [21:48:11] <Ryan-Toast> I don't know what Sharepoint is, so I don't know why you would use it :P
1236: [21:48:45] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: basically an MS CMS
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1238: [21:48:53] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Ah, right.
1239: [21:49:16] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: it can be pretty powerful if you know how to use it, trouble is, no one does
1240: [21:49:18] <antmas> ANYWHERE
1241: [21:49:24] <Ryan-Toast> Like Silverstripe :P
1242: [21:49:32] <zippy__> ^^
1243: [21:49:38] <antmas> XD
1244: [21:49:50] <zippy__> thou we do have the guru simon_w here
1245: [21:50:17] <Ryan-Toast> He hath been summoned?!
1246: [21:51:35] <zippy__> Ryan-Toast: You pretty busy with things at the moment?
1247: [21:51:45] <Ryan-Toast> At work, or at home?
1248: [21:51:53] <zippy__> work
1249: [21:52:01] <zippy__> assume you contractor?
1250: [21:52:12] <Ryan-Toast> No, I work for a company.
1251: [21:52:22] <Ryan-Toast> http://www.toast.co.nz/
1252: [21:52:52] <zippy__> gotcha, so toast is not your last name :)
1253: [21:52:58] <Ryan-Toast> Lol, no.
1254: [21:53:05] <antmas> Toast as a last name would be pretty badass
1255: [21:53:10] <Ryan-Toast> fuck yeah.
1256: [21:53:21] <Ryan-Toast> "Spread it, love"
1257: [21:53:24] <zippy__> lol
1258: [21:53:25] <Ryan-Toast> or something
1259: [21:54:00] <zippy__> Kids names would be awesome! Strawberry Toast
1260: [21:54:15] <UncleCheese> Everyone like PowerShop for their power company?
1261: [21:54:20] <UncleCheese> thinking of switching
1262: [21:54:39] <Colin[pi]> Powdered Toast
1263: [21:57:44] <antmas> your son could be 'Ryan Toast Jr' and his nickname 'Bread'
1264: [21:57:49] * antmas slaps thigh
1265: [21:58:09] <zippy__> I was trying to thing of names so you had the initials U R Toast
1266: [21:58:10] <Stomach> UC: meridian ;)
1267: [21:58:22] <zippy__> but all the names starting with U are terrorist sounding
1268: [21:58:32] <UncleCheese> oooh
1269: [21:58:34] <UncleCheese> we do their website
1270: [21:58:41] <Ryan-Toast> Breadcrumb
1271: [21:58:45] <Stomach> special deal?
1272: [21:58:56] <UncleCheese> oh it's you
1273: [21:59:00] <UncleCheese> of course you know that
1274: [21:59:07] <Stomach> haha
1275: [21:59:07] <UncleCheese> you did their website
1276: [21:59:18] <UncleCheese> and i've cursed your name in vain so many times
1277: [21:59:25] <Stomach> :D
1278: [21:59:26] <UncleCheese> no, just kidding
1279: [21:59:41] <Stomach> lol
1280: [21:59:43] <UncleCheese> they're talking SS3 upgrade soon
1281: [21:59:45] <UncleCheese> i can't even imagine
1282: [21:59:51] <Stomach> future Stevie curses past Stevie all the time :D
1283: [21:59:54] <UncleCheese> poor tim has to spec that
1284: [21:59:58] <UncleCheese> see you at Glenn's this weekend?
1285: [22:00:06] <Stomach> yeah mate, coming down for the night
1286: [22:00:20] <UncleCheese> grabseat is a wonderful thing
1287: [22:00:32] <Stomach> haha, nah I had to pay full fares :(
1288: [22:00:37] <Stomach> $600 for both of us :S
1289: [22:00:54] <UncleCheese> ouch
1290: [22:01:05] <UncleCheese> everyone i talk to is always like, oh, it's like $29 to AKL
1291: [22:01:24] <Stomach> if you book a few months in advance, not a few days :P
1292: [22:01:28] <antmas> $29 my ass, GFs flights were $529 return
1293: [22:01:31] <UncleCheese> ah, right on
1294: [22:01:36] <antmas> 2 months in advance
1295: [22:01:51] <Stomach> yeah antmas, i used to come up monthly to see my partner when I was in wellington
1296: [22:01:54] <Stomach> got freaking expensive
1297: [22:02:43] <Colin[pi]> I'd wager me flying back and forth to Sao Paulo from Australia was more expensive ;P
1298: [22:02:48] <antmas> shit sucks, domestics flghts in NZ are a joke
1299: [22:02:58] <simon_w> Even me flying back and forth to Canberra is more expensive
1300: [22:03:07] <Stomach> hahaha
1301: [22:03:14] <Stomach> good old kiwi OneUpManShip :D
1302: [22:04:25] <Stomach> doing a ss3 upgrade on that is gonna be a nightmare
1303: [22:04:38] <antmas> Stomach: what site?
1304: [22:04:52] <Stomach> meridian energy
1305: [22:04:55] <Stomach> glad I'm not doing it :D
1306: [22:06:41] <antmas> yeah doesn't seem like fun
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1308: [22:10:11] <Ryan-Toast> Dem gradients.
1309: [22:11:03] <Ryan-Toast> are they going responsive too?
1310: [22:11:43] <zippy__> can't, keep, out, of, pantry!
1311: [22:11:48] <antmas> you wanna see gradients and unresponsiveness taken to the extreme?
1312: [22:11:54] <Ryan-Toast> yes.
1313: [22:11:56] <Ryan-Toast> always.
1314: [22:12:13] * antmas tries to open barely functioning app
1315: [22:12:40] <SphereSilverNL> It's Not a Number.
1316: [22:12:44] <SphereSilverNL> It's bedman!
1317: [22:12:51] <SphereSilverNL> Sleep tight folks.
1318: [22:12:56] <Ryan-Toast> Niht.
1319: [22:13:02] * SphereSilverNL quit (Quit: bye)
1320: [22:13:09] <Ryan-Toast> Well, day.
1321: [22:14:22] <ss23> FUCK THE POLICe, FUCK FUCK FUCK THE POLICE
1322: [22:14:32] <Ryan-Toast> Coming straight from the underground?
1323: [22:14:33] <antmas> prepare to be amazed http://i.imgur.com/ZgR8BOM.png
1324: [22:14:51] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: that screams .NET
1325: [22:14:54] <antmas> dat salmon
1326: [22:15:15] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: .net negative 11.5 maybe
1327: [22:16:09] <antmas> a small part of me dissolves whenever I open it
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1330: [22:21:39] <zippy__> mmmm 3.1.2 come out mid october… why do I think 3.1.3 wont be far
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1332: [22:25:04] <catcher> zippy__, why do you say that?
1333: [22:25:30] <zippy__> cos it's been a while
1334: [22:25:51] <UncleCheese> Stomach: I think we have something like 6 weeks scheduled for it :)
1335: [22:26:03] <catcher> On one hand, it's been nice to not have to update a bunch of sites.
1336: [22:26:10] <UncleCheese> my guess is about 50% of the code will be tossed
1337: [22:26:28] <Stomach> probably more
1338: [22:26:29] <UncleCheese> so much unused stuff in there
1339: [22:26:39] <Stomach> yeah, I took out a whole lot when I did the last round
1340: [22:26:50] <Stomach> but theres still god knows what being used where situations all over the templates
1341: [22:28:43] <antmas> the sooner the better as I need to upgrade like 4 sites from 3.0 and 2.4 :/
1342: [22:30:02] <UncleCheese> there was a blog floating around the inter webs at one time about a guy who searched the whole Ubuntu kernel for the word "fuck"
1343: [22:30:09] <UncleCheese> hilarious stuff in there
1344: [22:30:33] <UncleCheese> point being, there's bad code everywhere
1345: [22:33:19] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: I read a really good interview with a game developer who said that a lot of people's biggest problem is that they want their code to be perfect before they do anything with it. He said just make it work to the best of your ability, release it and learn.
1346: [22:33:37] <UncleCheese> yeah, i'm a victim of that
1347: [22:33:45] <UncleCheese> i also think it's healthy to hate your code, though
1348: [22:33:49] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: I'm trying not to be.
1349: [22:33:56] <Ryan-Toast> Oh yes, absolutely.
1350: [22:34:01] <UncleCheese> since working at Heyday, i've learned so much that I literally hate everything I did before I got here
1351: [22:34:10] <UncleCheese> and that's a sign of growth
1352: [22:34:41] <Ryan-Toast> I have a project that I've been dong for about a year due to the client taking breaks months at a time, and holy shit I hate all of the code. It;'s so bad.
1353: [22:35:03] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: that's like my ss-shop project which is due for release soon
1354: [22:35:08] <Ryan-Toast> UncleCheese: One of my latest commits "Really hacky mail chimp module added. TODO: Not hack the shit out of it."
1355: [22:35:09] <Colin[pi]> was supposed to be finished in Oct
1356: [22:35:43] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: What does it do differently compared to say swipestripe?
1357: [22:36:01] <Colin[pi]> just another e-commerce platform for SS
1358: [22:36:15] <Colin[pi]> I liked it at first... and then you get into it deeper, and it's like "Oh."
1359: [22:36:23] <Colin[pi]> but then you're committed
1360: [22:36:26] <Colin[pi]> and man
1361: [22:36:30] <Colin[pi]> I have some SHITTY code in there
1362: [22:36:31] <antmas> I'm still pretty fresh, but everything I did as a pleb I cringe when I see it
1363: [22:36:57] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I'm still a pleb
1364: [22:37:00] <Colin[pi]> XD
1365: [22:37:03] <antmas> lol
1366: [22:37:14] <antmas> I'm a pleb compared to our lead developer
1367: [22:37:37] <Colin[pi]> my problem has been I've worked in very small teams for too long
1368: [22:37:41] <Colin[pi]> now I work solo
1369: [22:37:57] <an_Eskimo> Hey guys, per chance, is there some kind of obvious reason that making changes to ItemEditForm would make my Save and Delete button Forbidden when clicked? =D
1370: [22:38:02] <Colin[pi]> so I haven't had a lot of that peer to-and-fro "naw man, dont do that shit"
1371: [22:38:30] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, depends on what your edits were
1372: [22:38:47] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I get that everyday usually
1373: [22:39:08] <Colin[pi]> antmas: how would you rate your coding-fu out of 10?
1374: [22:39:32] <an_Eskimo> @simon_w, Basically added a new button (was attempting to create a duplicate button) which shows, but they all throw up 'Forbidden' when clicked
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1376: [22:39:35] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1913 (master - 9048eab : Sean Harvey): The build passed.
1377: [22:39:35] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/4af9143d3b44...9048eab4a2b5
1378: [22:39:35] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/18687273
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1380: [22:39:38] <antmas> Colin[pi]: depends on the language, but I'd give a genrous like 6/10?
1381: [22:39:40] <antmas> generous*
1382: [22:39:48] <Colin[pi]> antmas: yeah that's where I'd put myself too
1383: [22:39:57] <Colin[pi]> not a n00b, but still a lot to learn
1384: [22:40:36] <Colin[pi]> lol reading an integration guide for an e-comm gateway atm...
1385: [22:40:37] <Colin[pi]> "It is recommended that someone with HTML programming experience reads this guide"
1386: [22:40:42] <Colin[pi]> "someone with HTML programming experience"
1387: [22:40:48] <Colin[pi]> "HTML programming"
1388: [22:40:49] <Colin[pi]> >_<
1389: [22:40:50] <antmas> just hate being a n00b in here when I can answer all of my n00bish questions in .Net :P
1390: [22:41:11] <Colin[pi]> that's why we have simon_w
1391: [22:41:15] <antmas> lol
1392: [22:41:23] <Colin[pi]> he is the anti-n00b
1393: [22:41:46] <antmas> ^^^ that's like every web dev job advertisement on the planet
1394: [22:41:55] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, can you pastie a diff?
1395: [22:42:07] <antmas> "Javasript experience is great, but we only care about jQuery" lol
1396: [22:42:16] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: http://ss-shop.org/ ?
1397: [22:42:22] <Colin[pi]> zippy: yiss
1398: [22:42:55] <antmas> Colin[pi]: that's yours?
1399: [22:42:56] <Colin[pi]> zippy: my plan was simple: find an existing shop module, customise it, make it my "default" option if I need to build a shop site
1400: [22:42:59] <Colin[pi]> no no
1401: [22:43:04] <Colin[pi]> it's Jedateach's
1402: [22:43:15] <antmas> ah right
1403: [22:43:20] <an_Eskimo> @simon_w, this is my DO Admin class http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/52faa3dd8c385 and this is my DO class http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/52faa42a82b66
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1405: [22:43:26] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#717 (master - 0bb5b4c : Sean Harvey): The build is still failing.
1406: [22:43:26] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/5ebb484b2013...0bb5b4c8a4ed
1407: [22:43:26] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/18687389
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1409: [22:43:31] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: hosted with Vocus ?
1410: [22:43:36] <antmas> I can't bring myself to use SS for ecomm
1411: [22:43:45] <antmas> just doesn't feel right yet
1412: [22:43:54] <Colin[pi]> zippy: with who?
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1415: [22:44:03] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: dunno, you tell me, felt fast
1416: [22:44:18] <Colin[pi]> antmas: it started so well
1417: [22:44:22] <zippy__> SilverStripe version 2.4 :(
1418: [22:44:27] <Colin[pi]> yeah it's 2.4
1419: [22:44:40] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: my problem has been I've worked in very small teams for too long
1420: [22:44:48] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: who ya hosting with?
1421: [22:44:50] <Ryan-Toast> yeah, man. I need a rival to spur me on.
1422: [22:45:11] <Colin[pi]> zippy: um my sites are on linode? are you talking about the ss-shop site?
1423: [22:45:38] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: my last job was me as dev, and other guy as manager for like 7 years
1424: [22:45:43] <Colin[pi]> not a great environment
1425: [22:46:00] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I've only been a dev for three years, so still a mountain of learning.
1426: [22:46:23] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: yeah but I have been a lot longer, and I still have a lot to learn lol
1427: [22:46:24] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: yea
1428: [22:46:38] <Colin[pi]> zippy: ss-shop is not my site
1429: [22:46:45] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Universal constant no matter how much you know you're still shit, haha
1430: [22:46:57] <antmas> been developing full time for < a year and the other dev has been doing it for over 10 o.O
1431: [22:47:06] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I'm like... how the FUCK do other devs remember all this shit?
1432: [22:47:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: repitition
1433: [22:47:41] <Colin[pi]> my brain feels like it's run out of space, lol
1434: [22:47:55] <Colin[pi]> I need RAM doubler
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1436: [22:48:12] <Ryan-Toast> It was funny in my last job, I thought I was the worst peson there, but they discovered my knowledge of CSS and treated me like some kind of layout god.
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1438: [22:48:36] <Ryan-Toast> Because all of them were ahardout backend debs, and had no clue on what to do with markup.
1439: [22:48:47] <Ryan-Toast> I always write debs, so weird.
1440: [22:48:54] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: tis is exactly my situation now
1441: [22:48:56] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, you need an $allowed_actions with ItemEditForm in it
1442: [22:49:06] <Colin[pi]> wed debelober
1443: [22:49:15] <Ryan-Toast> debvelerrper
1444: [22:49:25] <zippy__> copy paster
1445: [22:49:40] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: I went the same path as you, started front-end and gradually went to back, now I do ALL the things
1446: [22:49:54] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: I like beifng a jack of all trades type.
1447: [22:50:04] <Ryan-Toast> this IRC has been a godsend for learning more though
1448: [22:50:10] <Colin[pi]> oh hell yes
1449: [22:50:22] <Ryan-Toast> It's like having an actual senior dev around
1450: [22:50:32] <Colin[pi]> a number of times I've thanked simon_w who has saved my arse
1451: [22:50:32] <zippy__> css fucks me of to no end….
1452: [22:50:49] <Colin[pi]> because I could be sitting here for like 3 hours scratching my head, and simon_w says "just do this"
1453: [22:50:56] <Colin[pi]> THANK YOU SIMON_W TEE HEE ^_^
1454: [22:51:03] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: It has so many quirks I can understand where you're coming from.
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1456: [22:51:58] <zippy__> not just that thou, I get in a pickle of where to put things. items for each page in there own css file and concat later. And how best to lay out the classes. I always seem to come to a project, and want to make one box wider and find it changes a whole bunch of shit...
1457: [22:52:03] <Colin[pi]> "You should talk to your web developer if you require technical assistance with HTML programming
1458: [22:52:04] <zippy__> inline styles ftw
1459: [22:52:06] <Colin[pi]> ...
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1461: [22:52:42] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: Have a little read into OOCSS
1462: [22:53:26] <zippy__> using many many classes?
1463: [22:53:27] <antmas> zippy__: OOCSS is a godsend
1464: [22:53:36] <Ryan-Toast> zippy__: I usually separate my css into areas, like layout typography etc. e.g: https://github.com/Rhym/ss_boilerplate/tree/master/themes/boilerplate/sass
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1466: [22:53:48] <antmas> even just using variables makes CSS 100% easier
1467: [22:54:15] <Ryan-Toast> then I make it waterfall like, globals first, then headers; body, footer; classes etc.
1468: [22:54:37] <Ryan-Toast> Makes it easy to write, because you know where everything should go.
1469: [22:55:06] <antmas> if all else fails !important all the things
1470: [22:55:08] <antmas> :P
1471: [22:55:11] <Ryan-Toast> :P
1472: [22:55:16] <Ryan-Toast> Friday afternoons you mean
1473: [22:55:38] <Ryan-Toast> If you do that, make sure to put all of that shit in a hack.css so you know where all the bad code is.
1474: [22:55:53] <Ryan-Toast> and it doesn't become technical debt.
1475: [22:56:09] <antmas> !important should be dropped anyway
1476: [22:56:14] <Ryan-Toast> No.
1477: [22:56:24] <Ryan-Toast> It has it's place.
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1479: [22:57:08] <Ryan-Toast> Mainly for overriding javascript inline styles, and media queries on class toggles.
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1481: [22:58:15] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: lol when I made my skin for the CMS, I put !important all over the place
1482: [22:58:30] <Ryan-Toast> Bad Colin! Bad.
1483: [22:58:34] <Colin[pi]> lol
1484: [22:58:38] <Colin[pi]> BUT IT WORKS
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1486: [22:59:07] <simon_w> So does goto!
1487: [22:59:13] <Ryan-Toast> Use inheritance over !important!
1488: [22:59:32] <Colin[pi]> 10 PRINT "SIMON_W IS A DOODY HEAD" 20 GOTO 10
1489: [22:59:37] <an_Eskimo> @simon_w, where abouts do I need it? =) Cheers
1490: [22:59:55] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, in your VersionedGridFieldDetailForm_ItemRequest class
1491: [23:00:06] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, like the one in GridFieldDetailForm_ItemRequest
1492: [23:00:07] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: You can use my cmd theme as a reference if you'd like: https://github.com/Rhym/ss_boilerplate/tree/master/Boilerplate/css/cms
1493: [23:00:08] <antmas> should only be used when it is the only option left
1494: [23:00:14] <antmas> otherwise, never
1495: [23:00:21] <ss23> I thew a wish in the well, don't ask me I'll never tell!
1496: [23:00:24] <simon_w> Colin[pi], cam cut that out of my blog post!
1497: [23:00:44] <Colin[pi]> :(
1498: [23:00:52] <Colin[pi]> that bastard
1499: [23:00:56] <simon_w> You should complain next time he comes in here
1500: [23:01:18] <Colin[pi]> I WILL WRITE A VERY TERSE LETTER
1501: [23:01:33] <Colin[pi]> TERSING INTENSIFIES
1502: [23:02:00] <an_Eskimo> @simon_w, cheers, that fixed the forbidden, now I am getting "Not found" on the Duplicate button
1503: [23:02:15] <an_Eskimo> @simon_w, when clicked.
1504: [23:02:30] <simon_w> Gah, the builders building things in the toilets are back again
1505: [23:02:40] <simon_w> an_Eskimo, you need to have the method for it to call
1506: [23:03:22] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Spy cameras for voyeur websites.
1507: [23:03:44] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, make explain why they did the women's first
1508: [23:03:48] <simon_w> *may
1509: [23:03:51] <azureknight> Sup Peeps?
1510: [23:04:01] <Colin[pi]> hey azureknight
1511: [23:04:07] <azureknight> Yo Colin[pi]
1512: [23:04:08] <Ryan-Toast> Oh god, my panadol is stuck in my throat ><
1513: [23:04:12] <antmas> ahoyhoy
1514: [23:04:25] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: headache?
1515: [23:04:29] <azureknight> Has anybody built a function using the exists() method?
1516: [23:04:31] <Ryan-Toast> Everythingache
1517: [23:05:03] <azureknight> Wanting CMS to return something if image exists.
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1520: [23:08:52] <azureknight> Nevermind. Finally figured it out. Sheesh, stupid me.
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1522: [23:22:01] <antmas> changing fucking favicons is so dumb
1523: [23:22:03] <antmas> grrrr
1524: [23:22:26] <Colin[pi]> antmas: dont forget teh apple touch icons! ^_^
1525: [23:25:47] <antmas> Sharepoint 2013 - "so you want to change the favicon?, well Designer has access to ALL FILES APART FROM FAVICON>ICO"... "so good luck with that..."
1526: [23:25:48] <antmas> -_-
1527: [23:26:18] <Colin[pi]> lol sharepoint
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1530: [23:37:21] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: Just use your 64x64 one for all of them.
1531: [23:38:26] <Colin[pi]> for the apple icons?
1532: [23:38:32] <Ryan-Toast> yarp.
1533: [23:38:44] <Colin[pi]> so... why would you be using 64x64?
1534: [23:39:02] <Ryan-Toast> you can use it for the 64, 32, and 16 version.
1535: [23:39:21] <Colin[pi]> there are 4 resolutions, 57, 72, 114, and 144
1536: [23:39:40] <Colin[pi]> I use two files, 114 and 144
1537: [23:39:54] <Colin[pi]> 114 for both the 57 and 114, and 144 for 72 and 144
1538: [23:40:00] <Colin[pi]> if that makes sense
1539: [23:40:42] <Ryan-Toast> Am I thinking of android? Or just noting at all?|
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1541: [23:40:50] <Colin[pi]> lol I dunno dude
1542: [23:40:51] <Colin[pi]> ;D
1543: [23:41:12] <spronk> hmm
1544: [23:41:13] <spronk> why
1545: [23:41:19] <spronk> when i go to certain pages on my uploaded files in ss3.1
1546: [23:41:25] <spronk> does it just show a blank page, no gridfield of anything
1547: [23:44:59] <spronk> how can i diagnose it?
1548: [23:45:50] <zippy__> php error log?
1549: [23:46:06] <zippy__> turn on error log in silverstip to log to file or email
1550: [23:46:11] <spronk> nothing in either
1551: [23:46:28] <zippy__> turn it off and on 3 times?
1552: [23:46:44] <zippy__> whats the response code, 500 or 200?
1553: [23:47:11] <zippy__> is the page truely blank (view source)
1554: [23:48:01] <spronk> 200
1555: [23:48:05] <spronk> well
1556: [23:48:07] <spronk> the outside of the page loads fine
1557: [23:48:08] <spronk> just
1558: [23:48:12] <spronk> the gridfield disappears
1559: [23:48:19] <spronk> but then i think its oinly a partial load for the gridfield anyway
1560: [23:49:38] <Colin[pi]> spronk: nothing in logs?
1561: [23:49:42] <spronk> nothing at all
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1565: [23:52:10] <spronk> oo
1566: [23:52:12] <spronk> turnig on dev mode
1567: [23:52:12] <spronk> 500 Notice at line 36 of /home/kerricka/public_html/framework/filesystem/GD.php
1568: [23:52:13] <Colin[pi]> spronk: mm, what about dev mode?
1569: [23:52:16] <Colin[pi]> ^
1570: [23:52:27] <spronk> wwwwwwtf
1571: [23:53:05] <spronk> list($width, $height, $type, $attr) = getimagesize($filename);
1572: [23:53:06] <spronk> hmm
1573: [23:53:17] <Colin[pi]> problem with getting the image size then
1574: [23:53:26] <Colin[pi]> permissions?
1575: [23:53:48] <spronk> hmmmm
1576: [23:53:52] <spronk> everything should be permissible
1577: [23:53:58] <spronk> what's the damn notice
1578: [23:57:13] <spronk> it just isn't outputting an error anywhere
1579: [23:57:48] <spronk> aha
1580: [23:57:48] <spronk> ERROR [Notice]: getimagesize() [<a href='function.getimagesize'>function.getimagesize</a>]: Read error!
1581: [23:57:56] <Colin[pi]> bingo
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