#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 31 January 2014

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3: [00:05:19] <simon_w> Ingo broke the build!
4: [00:06:07] <antmas> on a Friday too
5: [00:06:10] <antmas> tsk tsk
6: [00:06:12] <antmas> :p
7: [00:06:34] <zippy__> say 'boooooo biiittcchh'
8: [00:06:54] <zippy__> why is it, when we look at a picture of someone we thing, that person must be a douche
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13: [00:29:07] <Colin[pi]> zippy: dunno, can I see your picture?
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15: [00:38:50] <zippy__> Colin[pi]: :P
16: [00:39:36] <Jakx> I'll also accept: zippy, that's a mirror...?
17: [00:40:13] * antmas goes on facebook
18: [00:40:19] * antmas sees pictures of people
19: [00:40:27] * antmas thinks all are douches
20: [00:40:50] <antmas> totally don't get why this happens :(
21: [00:41:04] <Jakx> #tallpoppy
22: [00:41:24] <Colin[pi]> if ($person->takingSelfie()) { $person->setDouche(true); }
23: [00:41:45] <Jakx> ^
24: [00:41:57] <Colin[pi]> or duck face
25: [00:41:58] <Colin[pi]> lol
26: [00:42:31] <Colin[pi]> when did people decide, you know what? I'll make my lips look like a duck's beak, that will be the best photo ever
27: [00:42:46] <zippy__> boom model contract right there
28: [00:43:58] <Jakx> http://www.gadling.com/2013/03/13/souvenir-of-the-week-worlds-first-duckface/
29: [00:44:13] <Colin[pi]> lol
30: [00:44:44] <Colin[pi]> I can't help but laugh at guys who drive ridiculous rice rockets too, you know the type, covered in stickers and with a sixteen foot spoiler
31: [00:44:54] <Colin[pi]> I'm like "why... do they think this is cool?"
32: [00:44:58] <Colin[pi]> idgi
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34: [00:46:35] <antmas_> I thought we'd moved onto 'Sparrow Face' now?
35: [00:47:36] <antmas_> or maybe that's just Korea
36: [00:48:46] <Colin[pi]> all this makes me realise I'm getting old
37: [00:49:03] <Colin[pi]> I've already reached the "all music these days is shit" stage
38: [00:49:08] <Jakx> all this makes me realise I've had enough internet today
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41: [00:49:51] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I feel the same
42: [00:50:17] <Colin[pi]> ever see that south park where stan wakes up and everything around him has turned to pieces of shit?
43: [00:50:18] <antmas> that and the whole "i don't like going out to drink, drinking at home is way more me'
44: [00:50:27] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol YES
45: [00:50:33] <Colin[pi]> it's SO SO true lol
46: [00:51:19] <Colin[pi]> episode was called "you're getting old" iirc
47: [00:51:33] <Colin[pi]> lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:You%27re_Getting_Old_Screenshot.png
48: [00:51:47] <antmas> hahahah
49: [00:51:51] <antmas> love the pinched off heads
50: [00:51:55] <Colin[pi]> this is my every day LOL
51: [00:52:18] <Colin[pi]> ahh I need to curb my cynicism
52: [00:52:39] <antmas> Colin[pi]: it's easy, just pretend to like dubstep and Macklemore
53: [00:52:59] <Colin[pi]> BWWOOOOOOAAAHH REEREEREEREEREEREEREEREEREEREEREEREE BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH VAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVAVA
54: [00:53:04] <Colin[pi]> ^ every dubstep ever
55: [00:53:29] <antmas> I only like 1 dupstep song and only because it was in Far Cry 3
56: [00:53:34] <Colin[pi]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p_RrIA_Alc
57: [00:53:47] <ss23> There is some good music you can call "dubstep" :O
58: [00:53:56] <ss23> e.g. blackmill
59: [00:54:08] <ss23> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDI6HTR9arA
60: [00:54:08] <ss23> :D
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62: [00:54:51] <antmas> ss23: hmmmm
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64: [00:54:52] <antmas> not bad
65: [00:55:28] <zippy__> ss23: I do like that pic, reminds me of those old wall papers
66: [00:55:39] <ss23> mmmm, I like pictures like that too
67: [00:56:08] <Colin[pi]> looks like NZ
68: [00:56:13] <ss23> lol
69: [00:56:26] <ss23> NZ doesn't have two earth like planets like that in the sky!
70: [00:56:30] <Colin[pi]> at least, from what Jackson's films have shown :P
71: [00:56:39] <zippy__> two planets, what does it mean?/
72: [00:57:15] <ss23> They just look pretty, that's why they're in pictures
73: [00:57:31] <ss23> Nirn (from TES games) has lots of them too, and itm akes the sky look pretty
74: [00:57:47] <Colin[pi]> isn't it Tamriel?
75: [00:58:14] <Colin[pi]> oh wait
76: [00:58:16] <Colin[pi]> nm
77: [00:58:31] <Colin[pi]> that's the continent ;P
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79: [01:00:32] <Ryan-Toast> Colin[pi]: did you wnd up installing Oblivion?
80: [01:01:03] <Colin[pi]> Ryan-Toast: still have it installed, but watching Smaug last night is making me want to try Skyrim again
81: [01:02:20] <Colin[pi]> I can never get the shadows right in Skyrim :(
82: [01:02:27] <Colin[pi]> i've tried like every tweak
83: [01:02:32] <Colin[pi]> and they're still shit
84: [01:11:30] <Ryan-Toast> Mmm.
85: [01:12:45] <Ryan-Toast> colin[pi]: http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1tywsc/in_an_effort_to_make_this_sub_easier_to_use_for/
86: [01:16:31] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: You amy want to grab the new pagination stuff :P
87: [01:17:06] <Colin[pi]> thanks Ryan-Toast, I'll check it out when my router is scheduled to de-block reddit ;)
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89: [01:17:21] <Ryan-Toast> colin[pi]: lol.
90: [01:18:24] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: sure!
91: [01:18:36] <antmas> also, that single page scroll could be useful
92: [01:18:57] <simon_w> Oh right, playing an artist on Spotify means it plays 10 songs then stops
93: [01:21:20] <ss23> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/2809
94: [01:21:30] <ss23> Do we have a generic "this is a support question, pls use forums"?
95: [01:21:41] <ss23> Or is this like... issues are for support too?
96: [01:21:56] <Ryan-Toast> <antmas> Lazy loading?
97: [01:21:57] <simon_w> Nope
98: [01:22:02] <simon_w> for both of those
99: [01:23:36] <ss23> does anyone know the option to allow bigger headers anyway?
100: [01:24:14] <simon_w> Apache
101: [01:24:19] * simon_w trollolololols
102: [01:24:52] <ss23> lol
103: [01:26:16] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: huh?
104: [01:28:44] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: like ajax loading?
105: [01:29:34] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: I was thinking of that link from earlier today - forget what it was called
106: [01:29:40] <antmas> you posted it on FB etc
107: [01:31:03] <antmas> I'd remember, but I'm balls deep in SQL :
108: [01:31:06] <antmas> :/*
109: [01:32:40] <Ryan-Toast> On the web development group[?
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112: [01:34:50] <Ryan-Toast> Ah, right. Nah I won't add that by default. That's more of a site specific addition.
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114: [01:43:41] <Ryan-Toast> I get a "Non-static method Hierarchy::AllChildren() should not be called statically" even though the function is a public static, what gives?
115: [01:44:54] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, it's not a static function
116: [01:45:02] <simon_w> and you should be using $this->AllChildren()
117: [01:45:11] <Ryan-Toast> Ah, coolio :)
118: [01:45:23] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: You're always my savior.
119: [01:45:42] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: yup
120: [01:51:00] <antmas> had someone send me a tablet to look at
121: [01:51:06] <antmas> apparently it's not working
122: [01:51:11] * antmas looks at power button
123: [01:51:40] <antmas> apparently someone decided jamming the power button in so hard that it gets stuck on the case was a good idea
124: [01:51:47] <antmas> -_-
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128: [02:00:36] <geekdenz1> btw i solved my problem from yesterday with the custom KeywordValidator: I double checked and I had version 3.1.1 installed instead of 3.1.2 which I upgraded to now. Also noticed that the file framework/silverstripe_version is accurate
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133: [02:06:41] <Ryan-Toast> The default Sort method sorts though Sitetree_Live, but I want to srt by a field in my page extension, is there another sort method that allows that?
134: [02:12:28] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: Any thoughts?
135: [02:14:10] <antmas> o.O http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/9671709/Flying-snakes-have-great-aerodynamics
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137: [02:15:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1832 (master - 558d202 : Ingo Schommer): The build has errored.
138: [02:15:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/b52a82185f25...558d202bf2de
139: [02:15:37] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/17951495
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141: [02:15:54] <antmas> ^^^ what's going on there today??
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143: [02:20:27] <macka^> Hi guys - does anyone know of chrome-extension errors??
144: [02:20:41] <macka^> I am getting one in chrome and have no idea what it means
145: [02:21:41] <macka^> denying load of chrome-extension://<loads of chars>/js/include/keys.js.map resources must be listed in the web_accessible_resources manifest key in order to be loaded by pages outside the extension
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150: [02:28:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1833 (3.1 - 91b363b : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
151: [02:28:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/587c489d0f03...91b363b141af
152: [02:28:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/17951510
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154: [02:29:21] <antmas> hooray! ^^^ \o/
155: [02:33:38] <macka^_> anyone know of chrome-extensions?
156: [02:33:52] <Ryan-Toast> For what?
157: [02:34:34] <macka^_> testing a webpage and i am getting denying load of chrome extension
158: [02:35:16] <Ryan-Toast> You'll have to be a little more specific on what you want.
159: [02:35:27] <macka^_> Ok - sorry - actual error is denying load of chrome-extension://<loads of chars>/js/include/keys.js.map resources must be listed in the web_accessible_resources manifest key in order to be loaded by pages outside the extension
160: [02:36:09] <macka^_> i think this is causing the javascript on the page to not start properly
161: [02:36:30] <Ryan-Toast> The extension needs to be whitelisted. e.g: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13696906/resources-must-be-listed-in-the-web-accessible-resources-manifest-key-in-order-t
162: [02:37:39] <macka^_> ok - do i need to put that server side?
163: [02:37:46] <antmas> that's a really specific error o.O
164: [02:37:49] <guzzlefry> yay, my stuff got merged
165: [02:37:54] <Ryan-Toast> If it's your extension you ill have to do it in the package.
166: [02:38:00] * antmas high fives guzzlefry
167: [02:38:03] <guzzlefry> ^5
168: [02:38:16] <simon_w> Hi5!
169: [02:38:21] <Ryan-Toast> Waiting for ss23 to merge my sweet doc update
170: [02:38:28] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, he can't :p
171: [02:38:36] <Ryan-Toast> Did I do it wrong?
172: [02:38:39] <macka^_> nope.. not my extension - i don't ever know where in the site it is?!
173: [02:38:42] <antmas> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENG84wuPL6o
174: [02:38:53] <macka^_> i can't find an extension anywhere called *.map
175: [02:38:54] <ss23> Ryan-Toast: I CAN'T COMMIT ANYTHING
176: [02:38:56] * ss23 cries
177: [02:38:56] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, he doesn't have commit access. Also, I don't remember seeing a pull request from you
178: [02:39:00] <Ryan-Toast> <macka^_: It's the extension authors problem then
179: [02:39:16] <guzzlefry> ss23: Tell them that since you're the doc guy, you need commit access.
180: [02:39:23] <guzzlefry> gotta put your foot down man!
181: [02:39:28] <ss23> simon_w: Since I'm the doc guy, I need commit access
182: [02:39:40] * guzzlefry pats ss23 on the back.
183: [02:39:42] <simon_w> ss23, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
184: [02:39:43] <simon_w> No.
185: [02:39:59] <guzzlefry> Is that another macro? :P
186: [02:40:18] <guzzlefry> If not, it probably should be.
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188: [02:40:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1834 (3.1 - b980b24 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
189: [02:40:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/91b363b141af...b980b24aff4d
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192: [02:40:40] <ss23> lol
193: [02:42:13] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: I pushed to patch-1
194: [02:42:28] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, and? You still need to open a pull request
195: [02:42:45] <Ryan-Toast> oops, forgot to do that :P
196: [02:42:48] <UncleCheese_> anyone here use digital ocean hosting?
197: [02:43:05] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, I've got one VPS with them
198: [02:43:06] <Ryan-Toast> simon_w: tada! https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/pull/2812
199: [02:43:09] <antmas> Digital Ocean - "Where your websites sleep with the fishes"
200: [02:43:14] <UncleCheese_> any good?
201: [02:43:30] <simon_w> It's a cheap, SSD VPS.
202: [02:43:47] <simon_w> I don't have down notifications set up, so no idea about their down time
203: [02:44:05] <UncleCheese_> yeah, that's what appealed to me :)
204: [02:44:21] <UncleCheese_> what is a "droplet?"
205: [02:44:24] <Ryan-Toast> SSViewer::current_theme(); is depreciated now, right?
206: [02:45:00] <simon_w> UncleCheese_, a VPS
207: [02:45:22] <UncleCheese_> ahh
208: [02:46:03] <guzzlefry> Ryan-Toast: @deprecated 3.2 Use the "SSViewer.theme" config setting instead
209: [02:46:25] <antmas> ^^
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221: [02:54:44] <Colin[pi]> recaptcha your captchas are bad and you should feel bad
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229: [03:07:54] <UncleCheese> what does everyone think of Johnsonville?
230: [03:08:40] <antmas> Johnsonville?
231: [03:09:09] <antmas> the 'burb?
232: [03:10:15] <antmas> UncleCheese: I think it has a fantastic name
233: [03:10:29] <UncleCheese> yeah, it's the burbs for sure
234: [03:10:43] <UncleCheese> it's the only way we could get a decent house within our budget, though
235: [03:11:55] <antmas> UncleCheese: what's your budget?
236: [03:12:10] <ss23> chillu_23 / simon_w : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/issues/2809
237: [03:12:13] <UncleCheese> $500pw
238: [03:12:53] <UncleCheese> does anyone know if Snap serves J'ville?
239: [03:13:17] <ss23> UncleCheese: Every ISP serves everywhere
240: [03:13:23] <UncleCheese> ?
241: [03:13:25] <ss23> UncleCheese: Only question is what their offerings are (e.g. no VDSL in some places)
242: [03:13:26] <chillu_23> ss23: So that's a doc issue then?
243: [03:13:27] <UncleCheese> how is that?
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245: [03:14:02] <ss23> chillu_23: Well he's saying "SilverStripe shouldn't send lots of headers", which I think is a better discussion for the mailing list
246: [03:14:15] <ss23> chillu_23: But there's also the whole "If you have a support question, github issues aren't really the right place" or something
247: [03:14:27] <ss23> chillu_23: For reference, that is the "flush dos" guy
248: [03:14:30] <antmas> UncleCheese: just pick an address where you would roughly like to live and do a 'can i get it' on the snap site
249: [03:14:42] <UncleCheese> yeah, it doesn't work
250: [03:14:44] <UncleCheese> that thing is shit
251: [03:14:51] <UncleCheese> i type in an address and it comes up not found every time
252: [03:14:55] <chillu_23> I've signed up for Snap with ADSL (24mbit) in Island Bay, after 4 days still waiting to be connected. They come with @halkyon's recommendation, so I'm positive about it still
253: [03:15:00] <ss23> UncleCheese: Because every ISP can serve every place in NZ
254: [03:15:14] <UncleCheese> they all run their cables everywhere?
255: [03:15:16] <UncleCheese> what a waste
256: [03:15:18] <ss23> UncleCheese: That is like... there aren't places where they're like "Oh no you can only get Telecom here"
257: [03:15:22] <ss23> UncleCheese: Shared cables
258: [03:15:27] <UncleCheese> ohhh
259: [03:15:31] <UncleCheese> it's like a commie thing
260: [03:15:33] <ss23> XD
261: [03:15:35] <ss23> UncleCheese: You love it :P
262: [03:15:37] <UncleCheese> fucking socialist state
263: [03:15:44] <UncleCheese> distributing the wealth
264: [03:16:28] <antmas> i should really get vdsl
265: [03:16:35] <ss23> I have VSDL now
266: [03:16:36] <ss23> :D
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268: [03:16:39] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1840 (3.1 - d29b083 : Simon Welsh): The build passed.
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272: [03:17:31] <chillu_23> ss23: Answered on the ticket
273: [03:17:37] <ss23> chur
274: [03:17:46] <simon_w> Suckers, I have cable
275: [03:17:56] <ss23> simon_w: :)
276: [03:17:58] <ss23> NBN
277: [03:18:23] <simon_w> Hopefully will get that too, or cable
278: [03:20:07] <antmas> hmmm, can't get UFB where we live
279: [03:20:13] <antmas> max is VDSL :/
280: [03:20:49] <simon_w> antmas, and you can't get cable either, which is even better for home use!
281: [03:21:37] <UncleCheese> do you notice a lot of difference witH VDSL?
282: [03:21:41] <antmas> simon_w: my old place had that :(
283: [03:21:49] <ss23> UncleCheese: Between ADSL and VDSL? Yeah
284: [03:22:01] <ss23> Still shitty upstream though
285: [03:22:11] <UncleCheese> yeah, but i only care about streaming
286: [03:22:13] <antmas> must be better than 1.4mbps though
287: [03:22:25] <antmas> upstream I mean
288: [03:22:26] <UncleCheese> i mean.. watching perfectly legal, and undeniably awesome NZ television
289: [03:22:45] <ss23> 16:22:13 < antmas> must be better than 1.4mbps though
290: [03:22:53] <ss23> We're getting ~0.8mbps
291: [03:22:57] <ss23> mB
292: [03:22:58] <ss23> *
293: [03:23:02] <antmas> ss23: on VDSL?
294: [03:23:05] <antmas> really?
295: [03:23:06] <ss23> VSDL, yeah
296: [03:23:14] <antmas> that's worse than my ADSL :O
297: [03:23:19] <simon_w> UncleCheese, http://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/naked-high-speed-cable/
298: [03:23:21] <simon_w> So much win
299: [03:23:23] <ss23> It's about the same as our ADSL
300: [03:23:24] <ss23> :P
301: [03:23:44] <antmas> simon_w: price?
302: [03:23:48] <UncleCheese> we had a terrible, terrible experience with vodafone
303: [03:24:23] <simon_w> antmas, I'm on $95/month
304: [03:24:29] <antmas> simon_w: gigs?
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307: [03:25:04] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/d29b083b846d...cd99e720b6cd
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310: [03:25:05] <simon_w> antmas, 100
311: [03:25:16] <antmas> simon_w: damn, that's pretty good
312: [03:25:25] <Ryan-Toast> I get 100 gig for $50 a month
313: [03:25:26] <simon_w> <3 TCL plans
314: [03:25:41] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, at what speed?
315: [03:25:46] <antmas> $80 p/m for 150gb here
316: [03:25:47] <Ryan-Toast> One second
317: [03:26:11] <antmas> 14 up, 1.3-4 down for me
318: [03:26:27] <simon_w> Hehe, ADSL
319: [03:26:29] <simon_w> So quaint
320: [03:27:04] <Ryan-Toast> http://www.imgur.com/jCVA67K.png n my phone
321: [03:27:06] <Ryan-Toast> on**
322: [03:27:22] <simon_w> So you're on ADSL as well?
323: [03:27:28] <Ryan-Toast> yarp
324: [03:27:33] <simon_w> Yeah, my plan's still better
325: [03:27:35] <simon_w> 130/10
326: [03:27:46] <Ryan-Toast> I don't have a choice in my building :(
327: [03:27:53] <antmas> fuck vodafone
328: [03:27:59] <antmas> worst CS on the planet
329: [03:28:07] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, should still be able to get VDSL
330: [03:28:16] <Ryan-Toast> Says a lot when your mobile data is twice as fast.
331: [03:28:23] <antmas> 4g?
332: [03:28:27] <ss23> 16:27:59 < antmas> worst CS on the planet
333: [03:28:29] <Ryan-Toast> yarp
334: [03:28:31] <ss23> Come on, Google CS is worse
335: [03:28:39] <antmas> ss23: :P
336: [03:28:41] <ss23> And I hear Yahoo's is even worse than that (But I've not dealt with Yahoo's personally)
337: [03:29:02] <antmas> that's just because Yahoo is run by hackers now apparently
338: [03:29:13] <ss23> haha
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340: [03:29:29] <simon_w> I've never had problems with VF's CS. Though I usually get them to call me about my phone, and get the TCL guys for my cable
341: [03:30:28] <antmas> I'm not so concerned about speed as much as reliability and ADSL's reliability is pretty much less than nill
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343: [03:31:15] <simon_w> VDSL still has blips that drop out long-term connections
344: [03:31:21] <simon_w> Really annoying
345: [03:31:35] <antmas> still, must be markedly better than ADSL right?
346: [03:31:52] <simon_w> Yeah
347: [03:32:06] <simon_w> If work had only managed to get ADSL, we all would've worked from home
348: [03:32:40] <antmas> right
349: [03:32:48] <antmas> off to beer
350: [03:32:51] <antmas> later!
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352: [03:35:04] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: lol you're really going to enjoy our broadband
353: [03:35:11] <Colin[pi]> ahem... "broadband"
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355: [03:35:22] <simon_w> Colin[pi], I'm really going to try and get Telstra's cable
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357: [03:56:47] <variable_office> using SQLQuery how can I do multiple WHEREs with And? IE. WHERE col1=val1 AND col2=val2
358: [03:58:50] <simon_w> variable_office, the default connective is AND
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361: [04:06:01] <geekdenz1> i think i found a bug in chrome which makes html5 input validation of forms not work in SS
362: [04:06:06] <geekdenz1> i know a fix
363: [04:06:17] <geekdenz1> or better
364: [04:06:22] <geekdenz1> work-around
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372: [04:58:32] <guzzlefry> UH OH
373: [04:58:46] <guzzlefry> oh...phew
374: [04:58:57] <guzzlefry> I guess /dev/build/?flush doesn't work for 3.0. :P
375: [04:59:18] <guzzlefry> actually...dev/build isn't working
376: [04:59:20] <guzzlefry> no errors though
377: [05:05:00] <guzzlefry> Has anyone here had issues with /dev/build and shared hosting?
378: [05:05:12] <guzzlefry> I get a 200 OK back from the server, but a blank response body.
379: [05:07:18] <guzzlefry> yay, logs, hopefully there's a solution...
380: [05:10:38] <guzzlefry> fffuuuu
381: [05:13:02] <guzzlefry> 16:10:00] <bti> if i dev/build i get a blank screen, if i add ?showqueries it works, i think because something is being outputted to the screen
382: [05:13:07] <guzzlefry> issue I'm having, any ideas?
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392: [06:46:27] <terryapodaca> do we have any awesome CSS coders on tonight?
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404: [09:23:32] <wmk> good morning...
405: [09:24:09] <simon_w> good night
406: [09:24:16] <wmk> guzzlefry, what does the error log say?
407: [09:24:53] <wmk> sounds like a white screen of death for me
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411: [09:57:50] <Pyromanik> oh yup
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417: [10:45:58] <SphereSilver> Anyone any experience with Codeception?
418: [10:53:47] <Pyromanik> $$variablenamedthis ?
419: [10:56:31] <SphereSilver> :D
420: [10:56:45] <SphereSilver> that's just a variable-assignment from a variable
421: [10:56:52] <SphereSilver> No, I mean the testing-suite
422: [10:57:01] <SphereSilver> http://codeception.com/
423: [11:00:01] <ec8or__> has anyone used AngularJS with ss?
424: [11:00:41] <micmania1> SphereSilver, we're about to but not yet.
425: [11:01:17] <ec8or__> i don't really understand what angular does to be honest but if using it for a front-end app it would still need a data model etc. right?
426: [11:06:06] <SphereSilver> Angular is in no way a replacement for a backend with database-storage and such.
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428: [11:09:28] <ec8or__> yes watching some presentations now and looks like something i could use
429: [11:10:05] <ec8or__> really don't see why the customer is so keen on it for this particular site as it is not very interaction heavey but hey... guess they want to show they're down with the kids
430: [11:10:34] <SphereSilver> If the customer wants it, it's a nice way of getting your hands dirty with it the first time.
431: [11:10:47] <ec8or__> yeah it does look nice
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435: [11:29:29] <Pyromanik> ec8or__, sups
436: [11:30:26] <Pyromanik> ec8or__, cool video: http://vimeo.com/73913825
437: [11:30:34] <Pyromanik> related to angular, etc.
438: [11:31:34] <Pyromanik> "guess they want to show they're down with the kids" rofl xD
439: [11:36:49] <SphereSilver> Why was the meta-title etc. removed from the CMS again?
440: [11:37:31] <Pyromanik> because apparently that's too tight a coupling, or something.
441: [11:38:16] <Pyromanik> also Meta-title is pretty much a non-thing anyway.
442: [11:38:42] <Pyromanik> I don't think there is a meta tag for title, all it did was change the <title> and only if you told it to in tempate
443: [11:39:05] <Pyromanik> so basically 'non core, get rid of it' etc
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445: [11:45:40] <Pyromanik> codeception looks kinda cool SphereSilver
446: [11:57:11] <ec8or__> hey Pyromanik
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448: [11:59:44] <ec8or__> Pyromanik: looking at things like that always makes me wish i had the time to actually get informed
449: [11:59:54] <ec8or__> ...and do some cool projects
450: [12:00:16] <ec8or__> good if you can get paid while trying it out
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454: [12:22:15] <Shashitechno> Hello guys, I am using uploadify to upload the images and save them in s3
455: [12:22:37] <Shashitechno> but unfortunatly sorting wont work with that, I am using ss 2.4
456: [12:22:40] <Shashitechno> any idea ?
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458: [12:33:47] <Shashitechno> kinglozzer: Hey !
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460: [12:48:03] <Shashitechno> fixed get_one was changed to $obj = DataObject::get_by_id("S3Image", $id);
461: [12:57:31] <Pyromanik> ec8or__, understand completely. I constantly had that feeling at my previous employment
462: [12:58:09] <Pyromanik> but the long and short of it was that we didn't do any project that required a tool like that, nor ever had the budget for learning radically new things
463: [13:00:07] <Pyromanik> Shashitechno, no idea sorry
464: [13:00:37] <Pyromanik> I guess there might need to be some kind of sorting feature on the s3 bucket or something when you query it
465: [13:00:42] <Shashitechno> Pyromanik: no worries fixed !
466: [13:00:46] <Pyromanik> oh ok
467: [13:00:52] <Pyromanik> how?
468: [13:01:02] <Pyromanik> just incase someone gets the same question in future
469: [13:01:14] <Pyromanik> ss-log will record the correct solution :>
470: [13:01:17] <ec8or__> you can still sort on the dataobject, it will just contain a s3 url right?
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473: [13:05:08] <Shashitechno> Pyromanik: changed the DataObject to return
474: [13:05:27] <Shashitechno> Pyromanik: It was a File before, that wont exist at all
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476: [13:19:32] <Pyromanik> I see
477: [13:20:00] <Pyromanik> Files are DataObjects, but I can see that File could cause issues yeh.
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487: [15:35:26] <Pyromanik> fuck UK banks tbh. System so fucking bankrupt of logic.
488: [15:35:45] <SphereSilver> LMFTFY
489: [15:35:48] <SphereSilver> Fuck Banks.
490: [15:38:43] <kinglozzer> The only one I've ever found to be remotely okay is Barclay's. They'll still fuck you over, but at least their customer service is (usually) nice while they do it
491: [15:50:39] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, cool, I tried HSBC, thinking (foolishly) that since they're a foreign bank they might be ok (I could have opened a UK account IN NZ without so much bullshit), but here they're all bullshit.
492: [15:50:47] <Pyromanik> I think I'll give barclay's a go next
493: [15:51:04] <Pyromanik> we don't have an RBS here
494: [15:51:35] <Pyromanik> just natwest, cooperative (who I heard got done for some dodgyness recently), nationwide & barclays
495: [15:51:52] <Pyromanik> oh, and Virgin Money, whatever the hell that is.
496: [15:52:06] <Pyromanik> I presume a loan centre, but could be some weird bank thing too, I dunno.
497: [15:52:37] <Pyromanik> First woman I had at HSBC was nice to me. Second was a twat, probably not going to go there if I can avoid it.
498: [15:52:56] <Pyromanik> well, she wasn't a twat, but she wasn't exactly friendly & nice.
499: [15:53:47] <Pyromanik> Funny how people over here in jobs where they know they're in some kind of power position don't really seem to give a shit about presentation to the customer
500: [15:54:46] <SphereSilver> Yeah, but first, beer.
501: [15:54:48] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, then for some weird reason NZ's westpac seems to think that someone in the UK will dream up a sweet innovation for banking.
502: [15:55:19] <Pyromanik> which I think is kinda like asking a cave man to make improvements to the internal combustion engine...
503: [15:56:10] <Pyromanik> http://www.westpac.co.nz/who-we-are/sustainability-and-community/technology-and-innovation/westpac-app-challenge-uk/
504: [15:56:20] <Pyromanik> do watch the first vid, it's pretty classic.
505: [15:56:38] <kinglozzer> Heh, yeah customer service in the UK is 75% shit :P
506: [15:57:08] <Pyromanik> prize makes me laugh though "20,000 dollars!" And I'm all "you realise that's only 10,000 pounds?", lol. Still not something to turn your cheek on though.
507: [15:57:37] <SphereSilver> Customer: "So, if something breaks, howcome that's my problem?"
508: [15:57:47] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, it's weird. I expect everywhere to have complete shit customer service, then keep getting surprised when it is, because most of what I've had hasn't been TOOO bad.
509: [15:57:54] <SphereSilver> Me: "If your car breaks down, it's suddenly, magically, the problem of the garage-owner?"
510: [15:58:07] <SphereSilver> Customer: "well, no, sometimes those things break"
511: [15:58:10] <Pyromanik> SphereSilver, yeah, if they built it in the first place.
512: [15:58:30] <SphereSilver> Pyromanik: not after a year or so, you just have to pay to get it fixed.
513: [15:58:55] <SphereSilver> Same with software.
514: [15:59:14] <Pyromanik> SphereSilver, yeah, depends if it's a fault of manufacture or a wear and tear kinda thing
515: [15:59:41] <Pyromanik> and if it's a manufacture fault, it's really gotta be proven as such, rather than that the vehicle was being used inappropriately
516: [15:59:50] <Pyromanik> or suchlike
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518: [16:00:12] <Pyromanik> SphereSilver, But I DO know where you're coming from :)
519: [16:00:30] <SphereSilver> But still, warranty does end at some point. If you find a defect, outside the warranty, it's sure as hell isn't going to be repaired for free
520: [16:00:33] <Pyromanik> Have been an agency web dev before. Customers are the derpiest things around most of the time.
521: [16:00:46] <Pyromanik> SphereSilver, depends on the severity of the fault.
522: [16:01:08] <SphereSilver> Nope, you have to pay, no matter what the severity.
523: [16:01:19] <Pyromanik> eg. throttle position sensor becomes defective causing the car to speed up erratically and cause crashes... the company will usually fix or recall under own cost
524: [16:01:22] <SphereSilver> With the exception, if the manufacturer discovers and recalls the product
525: [16:01:41] <SphereSilver> Pyromanik: usually, that also triggers said recall ;)
526: [16:02:17] <Pyromanik> SphereSilver, yeah, or a free upgrade or such (eg my old man's washing machine got fixed at cost of Samsung when they found that they'd spontaneously combust and burn people
527: [16:02:21] <Pyromanik> s houses down)
528: [16:02:29] <chalky_> hey guys, im a bit confused how to query my newsitems by date & created date in SS 3.0
529: [16:02:52] <chalky_> i tried return NewsPage::get('Date DESC, Created DESC'); which resulted in an error, whats the correct way to do this?
530: [16:03:01] <Pyromanik> NewsItems::get()->order('Created DESC')
531: [16:03:14] <Pyromanik> chalky_, because parameters are bad now. Get isn't what it used to be.
532: [16:03:18] <Pyromanik> works completely differently.
533: [16:03:29] <Pyromanik> read docs :>
534: [16:03:57] <Pyromanik> you chain commands now to modify lists before (or after) they're lazy loaded.
535: [16:04:25] <Pyromanik> oh, might be sort(), not sure. see API for DataList
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537: [16:04:40] <SphereSilver> I think it's sort();
538: [16:04:44] <Pyromanik> yeh I think so
539: [16:05:23] <SphereSilver> DataObject::get()->filter(array('type' => 'value'))->exclude(array())->where()->sort()->limit()->first()->last();
540: [16:05:30] <SphereSilver> and that's how you break your database
541: [16:05:45] <Pyromanik> urgh, where. generally not a good idea.
542: [16:06:07] <SphereSilver> Agree, but it is available
543: [16:06:11] <Pyromanik> especially when referencing to 3.x newbies, they tend to use it instead of filter :<
544: [16:06:23] <SphereSilver> hmmmm, true
545: [16:06:50] <SphereSilver> close your eyes and begin to relax. You're falling asleep. You have no idea about "where", nor where you are. Wherever. Now wake up.
546: [16:06:59] <Pyromanik> lol
547: [16:07:08] <SphereSilver> There, fixed the problem for you :D
548: [16:08:46] <chalky_> haha, thanks guys :)
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558: [16:51:17] <DimiStripe> Hi guys, installing SS 3.1.2 to a hosting where MySQL is only accessable via SSL layer (hoster gave me a pem file) , however default install won't work, as has no SSL option. Is there a way I can install SS in such enviroment ?
559: [16:52:58] <Pyromanik> DimiStripe, probably ask Zauberfisch nicely, or perhaps wait for NZ to wake up and get to work.
560: [16:53:02] <Pyromanik> (about 3 hours)
561: [16:57:04] <DimiStripe> :D
562: [16:57:18] <DimiStripe> in 3 hours i will be in bed :D
563: [16:57:42] <DimiStripe> strangley i cant google it anywhere :(
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568: [18:18:36] <Pyromanik> DimiStripe, I'm not even sure SS is set up for that kinda thing
569: [18:18:52] <Pyromanik> does PHP support it?
570: [18:19:02] <Pyromanik> I assume so, but have never looked into it before
571: [18:19:42] <Pyromanik> because if you really can't wait and are decent with reading PHP you could find the connect statment and work backwards to see if it supports SSL
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576: [18:54:58] <DimiStripe> Pyromanik: Thanks... but i'll try to wait till Zauberfish wakes up :) maybe hell have any ideas if this is possible :)
577: [18:58:03] <simon_w> DimiStripe, you'll need to subclass MySQLDatabase, override __construct and then use http://nz1.php.net/manual/en/mysqli.ssl-set.php and http://nz1.php.net/manual/en/mysqli.real-connect.php instead of MySQLi::__construct
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579: [19:02:10] <DimiStripe> hmm, thanks simon_w , I'll give it a go
580: [19:09:45] <catcher> What's the best way to handle a situation when flushing a particular page's template cache exceeds max execution time?
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583: [19:23:33] <simon_w> catcher, ?flush=all on a page without images
584: [19:24:53] <catcher> makes sense. Does =all differ from =1 in 3.1? Looks like they both clear the whole cache, but maybe I'm missing something.
585: [19:25:14] <simon_w> flush=1 only does the current template
586: [19:46:56] <Pyromanik> [07:58] <@simon_w> DimiStripe, you'll need to subclass MySQLDatabase, override __construct
587: [19:47:31] <Pyromanik> so like... using Injector to change the db it uses? Or is that what the DB type part of the config does? (take a DB classname type)
588: [19:47:52] <simon_w|air> Pyromanik, you'd then provide a different classname in your db config
589: [19:52:50] <Pyromanik> makes sense :>
590: [19:58:30] <DimiStripe> Pyromatic: i see this doesnt work on install step
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592: [20:09:11] <DimiStripe> ok, i've set config manually, but still doesnt work. Basically i do have only one db.pem file, but set_ssl requires 3 of them ?
593: [20:10:10] <simon_w|air> DimiStripe, so pass null for the values you don't have
594: [20:18:05] <DimiStripe> simon_w|air: well- the rpobelm , i can write anything in the ssl_set function , next line during $this->dbConn->real_connect I would get [Warning] mysqli::real_connect(): (28000/1045): Access denied for user 'MY_SERUSER'@'MY_IP' (using password: YES)
595: [20:18:33] <DimiStripe> and im trying to initite ssl with
596: [20:18:39] <DimiStripe> $res1=$this->dbConn->ssl_set(null, null,'/srv/web/vhosts/731349/db1.pem',NULL,NULL);
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599: [20:26:34] <simon_w|air> DimiStripe, I doubt the file you've got is the CA file
600: [20:27:07] <simon_w|air> it'll either by the key (if it's specific to you) or certificate (if it's for everyone connecting to the host)
601: [20:27:17] <DimiStripe> Well, it starts with
602: [20:27:57] <DimiStripe> -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIDQzCCAqygAwIBAgIJAOd (20 lines of text) b10= -----END CERTIFICATE-----
603: [20:28:18] <simon_w|air> So, it's probably the certificate file then =
604: [20:28:24] <simon_w|air> Second argument, not third
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606: [20:30:12] <DimiStripe> second makes error
607: [20:30:14] <DimiStripe> Unable to set private key file
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609: [20:32:42] <DimiStripe> i reid all positions i guess.. and it doesnt work... :(
610: [20:33:54] <houleness> Hi simon_w ... Have you seen this issue https://github.com/simonwelsh/silverstripe-GridFieldRelationHandler/issues/16 with the gridfieldrelationhandler? Any idea how I can fix this?
611: [20:34:34] <simon_w|air> houleness, wait till I get home this afternoon (about to go out) and I'll look into it
612: [20:34:52] <houleness> simon_w, awesome, thanks!
613: [20:35:31] <simon_w|air> DimiStripe, then passing it as a CA was probably correct (given that you actually connected to the server). Check your username/password, and then ask your host if you've been limited to a specific IP address
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616: [20:39:49] <DimiStripe> Gee , they've given me wrong pass... geee... Thanks for a tip simon ! :)
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