#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 8 January 2014

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1: [00:00:12] <Pyromanik> lewellyn, living the dream man :D
2: [00:00:26] <Pyromanik> you know shit about doing stuff right and have the freedom to actually do it right.
3: [00:00:31] <Pyromanik> DEM FEELS
4: [00:00:32] <Pyromanik> must be good
5: [00:00:52] <lewellyn> my gf asked me last night my progress on what i'm working on. "um. i didn't write any code today. i'm trying to figure out the UX when $foo happens. if i write code before i figure it out, i'll be rewriting it anyhow." "k. let's go get dinner then, and you can figure it out tomorrow." <3
6: [00:00:55] <Pyromanik> [12:58] <@ss23> and I'm like "GUESS WHATS FOR LUNCH?!"
7: [00:00:57] <Pyromanik> troll meat?
8: [00:00:58] <Pyromanik> xd
9: [00:01:33] <Pyromanik> lewellyn, lol. Sometimes they just don't get it. Soemtimes it's a welcome break.
10: [00:01:34] <lewellyn> irritatingly, i still haven't quite gotten it.
11: [00:01:41] <Pyromanik> hard to tell which is which situation :P
12: [00:01:43] <guzzlefry> does renderWith() return the HTML string?
13: [00:01:48] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry,yes
14: [00:01:49] <lewellyn> but i'm not refactoring crap a dozen times.
15: [00:02:01] <guzzlefry> ah, there's the solution then...maybe
16: [00:02:11] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry, I'm sure there's a nicer one.
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18: [00:03:46] <mirrors> Hey everyone
19: [00:04:14] <Pyromanik> hi mirrors
20: [00:04:19] <lewellyn> Pyromanik: your stated rule #1 though... ;)
21: [00:04:54] <Pyromanik> I think my favourite part about the flight sim http://blog.aerojockey.com/post/iocccsim is flying the aeroplane underground.
22: [00:05:22] <mirrors> When using the treedropdownfield to list folders and files the folder the folder titles are not being displayed correctly....i.e I can see the HTML in the dropdown....i Google this and a patch listed here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/silverstripe-dev/xvY99Iyv7qs/6-gHd8Mgby4J was to provide the fix
23: [00:05:29] <Pyromanik> lewellyn, yeah, fantastic when you need it, but there's always a right way and a wrong way to 'just make it work'
24: [00:05:30] <Pyromanik> :P
25: [00:05:44] <mirrors> I am using the newest SS and this patch has been applied but I still get see the HTML
26: [00:05:54] <mirrors> surely this is something that is effecting everyone else?
27: [00:06:14] <Pyromanik> not me, although I haven't installed SS in WEEKS
28: [00:06:20] <Pyromanik> so dunno man, sorry
29: [00:07:20] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry, I'm about 30% sure you can just pass an object to populateTemplate and it'll execute as the default scope
30: [00:07:39] <Pyromanik> (and any further calls override it if they have clashing vars in the default scope)
31: [00:08:10] <Pyromanik> so my answer is "try $email->populateTemplate($cart)"
32: [00:08:18] <Pyromanik> and if that doesnt' work, then ghetto it.
33: [00:08:26] <guzzlefry> okay, trying
34: [00:08:29] <guzzlefry> thanks
35: [00:08:34] <Pyromanik> gl hf
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37: [00:15:55] <Pyromanik> ciao
38: [00:22:43] <ss23> mmm, burgerfuel
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41: [00:47:03] <guzzlefry> What exactly does ViewableData::customise() do?
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44: [00:54:48] <guzzlefry> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/52cc9f1ca06aa
45: [00:55:03] <guzzlefry> Trying to make the lower block of code work in the same way as the upper. :/
46: [01:01:02] <guzzlefry> I WIN
47: [01:01:31] <guzzlefry> I just threw what renderWith() returned into the body of the Email :)
48: [01:02:13] <ss23> Awesome!
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50: [01:29:26] <guzzlefry> [User Error] Uncaught SSTemplateParseException: Parse error in template on line 15. Error was: Unknown open block "with" encountered. Perhaps you missed the closing tag or have mis-spelled it?
51: [01:29:48] <guzzlefry> http://sspaste.com/paste/show/52cca7550ff39
52: [01:29:51] <guzzlefry> starts with line 15 ^
53: [01:30:01] <guzzlefry> Can you not have an if block inside of with?
54: [01:30:10] <simon_w> guzzlefry, !=, not not
55: [01:30:20] <guzzlefry> but
56: [01:30:40] <guzzlefry> oh I see
57: [01:31:03] <guzzlefry> not is to ! as != is to...!= :P
58: [01:31:10] <guzzlefry> thanks simon_w
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67: [03:21:34] <boytikz> is it possible to organise views into subfolders?
68: [03:21:45] <boytikz> like in frameworks like Laravel or CakePHP
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70: [03:22:44] <boytikz> when I did return $this->renderWith(array('MyController/index', 'Page')); All I got was the view of themes/<themename>/MyController/index.ss
71: [03:22:59] <boytikz> It didn't output the main layout
72: [03:24:04] <ss23> I hate OSX :(
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74: [03:26:30] <guzzlefry> ss23: What's wrong with it so I know why I'm avoiding it. :P
75: [03:27:15] <ss23> lol
76: [03:27:23] <ss23> In this very very particular case, no init.d scripts for restarting services
77: [03:28:02] <simon_w> ss23, launchd
78: [03:28:40] <ss23> and postgres slow, though ubrelated to OSX
79: [03:33:42] <irogue23> welcome to hamilton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIXit6bn_Dk
80: [03:36:07] <Colin[pi]> that's fucked
81: [03:37:02] <irogue23> heard it on the police scanner yesterday, and today it turns up on youtube
82: [03:37:41] <guzzlefry> Your scanners aren't encrypted?
83: [03:38:04] <irogue23> guzzlefry: the big cities (Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch) are
84: [03:38:09] <irogue23> but not little ol' Hamilton
85: [03:38:55] <Colin[pi]> kid's got a bright future ahead of him o_o
86: [03:38:57] <Colin[pi]> poor guy
87: [03:38:59] <irogue23> was meant to be rolled out nationwide, but they did those 3 cities and then the govt pulled the funding cos they promised the country a budget surplus and aren't actually pulling it off
88: [03:39:11] <irogue23> so they've started cancelling things left right and centre
89: [03:40:24] <ss23> shiiiiiiiiit
90: [03:40:26] <ss23> @ that drunk kid
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93: [03:41:34] <simon_w> Ooh, cop with lights on and no siren going past
94: [03:41:37] <simon_w> Hide ss23!
95: [03:41:59] <ss23> lol
96: [03:42:04] <ss23> I don't notice those
97: [03:42:36] <simon_w> Not having the siren only probably helps with that :p
98: [03:44:38] <irogue23> lights and no siren is pretty standard procedure now
99: [03:45:10] <ss23> I'm an oblivious as fuck driver o.o
100: [03:47:46] <irogue23> is there cricket on in hamilton today?!?
101: [03:47:59] <irogue23> huh, looks like yes
102: [03:48:03] <irogue23> shows how much i follow sport :P
103: [03:49:09] <Colin[pi]> lol I'm the same irogue
104: [03:49:17] <Colin[pi]> wouldn't have a clue
105: [03:50:00] <irogue23> only know cos police dispatcher just reminded a couple of units that they have scheduled tasks and the units were like "we're seconded to the cricket today, we won't be able to do those"
106: [03:50:04] <simon_w> Yeah, some guy won $100k at it
107: [03:50:21] <ss23> At cricket? o.o
108: [03:50:24] <ss23> How does that work?
109: [03:50:43] <simon_w> Beer promotion thing. Make a one-handed catch on a six
110: [03:50:47] <ss23> oic
111: [03:50:50] <irogue23> while wearing a tui shirt
112: [03:50:57] <ss23> lol
113: [03:51:01] <ss23> Was it like...
114: [03:51:04] <ss23> "no one will ever win this!"
115: [03:51:06] <ss23> and someone did?
116: [03:51:09] <irogue23> pretty much
117: [03:51:19] <ss23> rofl
118: [03:51:22] <ss23> $100k isn't a bad prize! :D
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120: [03:51:40] <simon_w> Especially if you get fired for calling in sick to go to the cricket
121: [03:51:45] <Colin[pi]> lol
122: [03:51:46] <ss23> hahah
123: [03:52:23] <irogue23> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11183141
124: [03:56:20] <unsignedint> only in hamilton...
125: [03:56:44] <irogue23> yeah, in tokoroa it'd be normal so noone would bother to film it :P
126: [03:56:48] <ss23> No way! It'd happen in Auckland too
127: [03:57:42] <irogue23> heh
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129: [03:58:32] <irogue23> fire notified police just as a courtesy (they have combined call centre) that an empty house is on fire and they're on their way
130: [03:58:57] <Colin[pi]> so, like, does this sort of thing happen more with maori families? or anyone of lower socioeconomic bkg?
131: [03:59:10] <Colin[pi]> as I have no idea about this stuff in NZ
132: [03:59:29] <ss23> Colin[pi]: Well, maori and pacific islander are the lower socioeconimic, so there is correlation with race too
133: [03:59:38] <irogue23> police dispatcher let the channel know, and the senior sergeant's like "um, if you've got a free unit can you send them? that's a bit of a rough area, likely the fire isn't an accident"
134: [03:59:40] <Colin[pi]> ya I figured :\
135: [04:00:34] <irogue23> sergeant went there, and has now just radio'd asking for CIB
136: [04:00:41] <ss23> CIB?
137: [04:00:45] <irogue23> detectives
138: [04:00:49] <ss23> mmk
139: [04:00:59] <irogue23> CIB = Criminal Investigation Branch
140: [04:01:20] <irogue23> so i guess the senior sergeant was right :P
141: [04:13:49] <simon_w> Home time!
142: [04:14:56] <ss23> I might home soon too!
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144: [04:15:04] <ss23> simon_w: Have you noticed that I'm getting in to work before you lately?
145: [04:15:04] <ss23> :D
146: [04:15:06] <simon_w> Slacker!
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148: [04:15:16] <ss23> :O
149: [04:15:16] <simon_w> ss23, uh, no you aren't
150: [04:15:16] <ss23> NO
151: [04:15:19] <ss23> YOU'RE THE SLACKEr
152: [04:15:22] <ss23> YES I AM YES I AM
153: [04:15:38] <ss23> I was in the other day before you even tweeted about "I should go to wkr"
154: [04:16:05] * irogue23 is just starting work
155: [04:16:06] <ss23> I've been getting ~7:30am, simon_w
156: [04:31:13] <Zauberfisch23> its 0530 here, and I am going to work now. I win
157: [04:31:20] <ss23> lol
158: [04:31:28] <ss23> I was getting ready for work at 11pm the oter day!
159: [04:32:00] <irogue23> i swear
160: [04:32:18] <irogue23> how do cops not know hamilton?
161: [04:32:55] <irogue23> constantly having to ask where streets are and i'm like yelling the answer in my head while the dispatcher (who's in Auckland) looks it up on a map
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180: [06:18:03] <simon_w|air> Oh right, ss-log isn't with HD any more
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190: [07:16:45] <j9x> hello. is it a good idea to always return true in canView of a DataObject? i still have trouble giving rights to non-admins so they can view and edit these objects and the fronend user (without login) ca view them, too. thx a lot!
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192: [07:20:54] <devis> Hello guys
193: [07:21:21] <devis> Is there is any ss module to enable drag and drop sorting with categories in CMS ?
194: [07:25:42] <j9x> categories?
195: [07:26:23] <devis> j9x: yeah its datalist basically
196: [07:26:23] <irogue23> devis: if categories are a DataObject, have a look at https://github.com/UndefinedOffset/SortableGridField
197: [07:26:33] <devis> works for ss 2.4 ?
198: [07:26:42] <irogue23> devis: nah that one's for 3
199: [07:27:01] <devis> irogue23: any way in 2.4 ?
200: [07:27:15] <devis> irogue23: I am running under ss 2.4 :(
201: [07:27:41] <irogue23> for 2.4 you'd probably have to use dataobjectmanager
202: [07:28:07] <devis> irogue23: any docs or links plesase ?
203: [07:28:43] <irogue23> http://www.ssbits.com/snippets/2010/a-data-object-manager-cheatsheet/
204: [07:28:45] <irogue23> search for sortable
205: [07:29:39] <irogue23> you'll need this module: http://www.silverstripe.org/dataobjectmanager-module/
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222: [09:42:52] <micmania1> There's plans to add namespacing to silverstripe isn't there?
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224: [09:54:30] <Zauberfisch23> micmania1: yes
225: [09:54:36] <Zauberfisch23> but its moving slowly as far as I know
226: [09:54:51] <Zauberfisch23> I think simon_w has done some work on that
227: [09:54:59] <Zauberfisch23> he might be more up2date
228: [09:55:55] <micmania1> is there a ticket on github that you're aware of? It would be good to see any progress.
229: [09:58:43] <Zauberfisch23> not that I know of
230: [09:59:01] <Zauberfisch23> just did a quick search, which yielded no results
231: [09:59:25] <kinglozzer> https://github.com/simonwelsh/silverstripe-framework/tree/staticnamesapce that?
232: [10:00:20] * kinglozzer didn't actually look, just guessing :P
233: [10:00:53] <irogue23> clicky bugs are very annoying when they get trapped in a plastic bag
234: [10:01:28] <kinglozzer> Speaking of clicky noises, when I was laying in bed last night my bed frame was clicking in sync with my heartbeat
235: [10:01:37] <kinglozzer> Tried wiggling, wouldn't go away
236: [10:01:42] <kinglozzer> Very annoying >:(
237: [10:02:50] <irogue23> dayum my belly is full
238: [10:02:54] <irogue23> too many curry
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242: [10:16:07] <stripemonkey> Hi o/
243: [10:16:30] <stripemonkey> Good Morning/afternoon/evening/night, depending on your timezone :-)
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245: [10:16:45] <irogue23> sup stripemonkey
246: [10:17:13] <stripemonkey> Howdy irogue23 o/ I'm incognito on the bistro network again :-)
247: [10:18:52] <stripemonkey> A colleague of mine has some questions about simple forms like on a Contact Us page, and whether to use redirection when someone submits a form that validates successfully
248: [10:19:01] <stripemonkey> What's the norm for Silverstripe?
249: [10:19:40] <kinglozzer> Depends on the dev I think
250: [10:19:53] <kinglozzer> Some redirect to 'some-page/done'
251: [10:20:08] <stripemonkey> Should that page exist as a real page in the site tree?
252: [10:20:24] <stripemonkey> But made inaccessible through menus/search/etc?
253: [10:20:46] <kinglozzer> I personally usually: set a session variable, call $this->redirectBack(); to go back to the form, then in the template have <% if FormSent %> Thanks etc <% else %> $MyForm <% end_if %>
254: [10:20:50] <stripemonkey> Or should we be using routing rules and have a dynamically created page?
255: [10:21:17] <kinglozzer> FormSent() { return (Session::get('FormSent') == 'MyFormName'); }
256: [10:21:20] <kinglozzer> Or something along those lines
257: [10:21:54] <kinglozzer> Oh and Session::clear() as well :P or they can never see the form again
258: [10:22:02] <stripemonkey> If someone goes away from that page and back again, won't the "Thanks etc" get stuck?
259: [10:22:08] <stripemonkey> Yes exactly, lol!
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261: [10:22:57] <stripemonkey> This is why we were discussing using a hidden but real page, so no messing with session and the CMS users can edit the message, but is that the norm?
262: [10:24:55] <stripemonkey> This is my colleague's exact question: http://pastebin.com/hELzziZk
263: [10:25:26] <stripemonkey> Which is best and are there any other options?
264: [10:26:05] <kinglozzer> stripemonkey: http://pastie.org/8613487, then in the template <% if Sent %>Thanks<% else %>$ContactForm<% end_if %>
265: [10:27:24] <micmania1> I always just use $form->sessionMessage("blah blah blah", "good|bad"); and then $this->redirectBack(). Silverstripe deals with the rest :0
266: [10:28:42] <stripemonkey> Do sessionMessages get cleared?
267: [10:29:41] <micmania1> yep
268: [10:31:53] <stripemonkey> Is it setFormMessage() now? I can't find sessionMessage()
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276: [10:52:46] <micmania1> stripemonkey, its on the Form class
277: [10:53:14] <micmania1> stripemonkey: http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-Form.html#_sessionMessage
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280: [10:57:48] <philbenoit> has anyone come across a long response time at random intervals?
281: [10:58:26] <philbenoit> I have the same site on 3 servers and all of them, at the same time, slowdown for a brief period
282: [10:58:37] <philbenoit> is there a background process in SS?
283: [11:01:40] <Pyromanik> not unless you make one.
284: [11:02:03] <Pyromanik> (cron job, etc)
285: [11:05:59] <philbenoit> Ok good to know, we are getting random response times over 130 seconds but not on specific page loads
286: [11:06:29] <philbenoit> just trying to cross off a lost of what it could be
287: [11:07:11] <philbenoit> off a list
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289: [11:21:30] <Pyromanik> if something is clearing the cache folder at a certain time then that could/would cause it.
290: [11:21:40] <Pyromanik> philbenoit, ^
291: [11:22:10] <Pyromanik> if you haven't set up a cache folder in the web root then this is most likely in /tmp
292: [11:22:41] <philbenoit> yeah maybe,
293: [11:22:42] <philbenoit> seems strange this is across 3 servers though
294: [11:22:43] <philbenoit> agh ok, its served through squid on the server rather than SS cache
295: [11:22:44] <Pyromanik> if you create a folder 'silverstripe-cache' in the silverstripe installation root foler then it should use that instead (provided permissions are correct)
296: [11:23:21] <philbenoit> yeah we have those folders installed
297: [11:23:21] <Pyromanik> oh yeah, still i'd expect squid to update from SS which would in turn use the cache
298: [11:23:43] <philbenoit> do you think it could be the 'silverstripe-cache' clearing out?
299: [11:23:46] <Pyromanik> if you can disable squid then test, that should give you an answer
300: [11:23:54] <Pyromanik> philbenoit, unlikely.
301: [11:24:05] <Pyromanik> more likely to do with squid doing something odd
302: [11:25:04] <philbenoit> yeah good point!!!!
303: [11:25:04] <philbenoit> might see if we can get a consistent timeout happening and then remove from 1 server!
304: [11:25:04] <philbenoit> thanks for the ideas
305: [11:25:07] <philbenoit> ok thanks
306: [11:25:53] <irogue23> http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/1uo8dr/drunk_8_yearold_at_fairfield_skatepark_classy/cek64xz
307: [11:26:21] <irogue23> heh, when i heard the call about the kid come across the police radio, first thing i said was "of course it's cody's"
308: [11:29:11] * boytikz has left #silverstripe
309: [11:35:57] <Colin[pi]> lol that vid has gone viral now
310: [11:36:52] <Pyromanik> lolwtf
311: [11:37:12] <Pyromanik> fuck'n hamiltron rite.
312: [11:37:20] <irogue23> fairfield even :P
313: [11:37:23] <irogue23> my hood
314: [11:38:38] <Colin[pi]> they even say "only in fairfield" in the vid lol
315: [11:39:17] <kinglozzer> Client wants their new site built for desktop, but built in such a way that we can retrofit responsive if they choose to...
316: [11:39:19] * kinglozzer cries
317: [11:39:59] <Colin[pi]> kindly tell your client to suck a fat one
318: [11:40:11] <Colin[pi]> ;)
319: [11:40:21] <kinglozzer> :P
320: [11:40:22] <irogue23> so in other words, make responsive but comment out the bootstrap-responsive include, then charge them for 20 hours work when they want responsive and uncomment that line?
321: [11:40:58] <Colin[pi]> lol!
322: [11:40:59] <kinglozzer> Great idea irogue23
323: [11:41:03] <Colin[pi]> hahahaa
324: [11:41:07] <Colin[pi]> that's awesome
325: [11:41:29] <Colin[pi]> "we want it responsive now"... *wait 20 hours*.. press two keys...
326: [11:44:01] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, so responsive from the get go IMO
327: [11:44:22] <Colin[pi]> yeah that would be FAR and away the best thing to do
328: [11:44:23] <Pyromanik> that or just turn everything off with CSS and be done with it
329: [11:45:25] <Colin[pi]> i mean
330: [11:45:25] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi], gotta either convince them to go responsive from the start, or what I meant is what you said. Build it responsive then cripple it
331: [11:45:28] <kinglozzer> For 90% of websites I think we'd probably just build it responsive and disable it, but this one's quite complex :(
332: [11:45:41] <Pyromanik> I see.
333: [11:45:43] <Colin[pi]> who the heck would not want to go responsive these days?
334: [11:46:02] <Colin[pi]> ah extra complexity I see
335: [11:46:08] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, the best thing about 'responsive' I find is that it's generally pretty easy to do an 'alright' job at it
336: [11:46:28] <Colin[pi]> once I started doing stuff on a responsive grid, it made MORE sense than the old way
337: [11:46:43] <Pyromanik> disable some images, stack things instead of side by sideing them, check spacing, boom bob's your uncle
338: [11:46:51] <Colin[pi]> yep
339: [11:47:06] <Colin[pi]> and I prefer to use a framework with fixed jumps and not fully fluid
340: [11:47:07] <kinglozzer> img { max-width: 100%; } JOB DONE
341: [11:47:12] <kinglozzer> :D
342: [11:47:13] <Colin[pi]> as it gives you some dimensions to work to
343: [11:47:23] <Pyromanik> then wait for client to whinge about having to scroll on their iplops because too much info on one page.
344: [11:47:36] <Pyromanik> xD
345: [11:47:45] <Pyromanik> dat 100%
346: [11:47:51] <Pyromanik> so good, unless you're IE8
347: [11:47:51] <Pyromanik> :<
348: [11:48:05] <Pyromanik> ASPECT RATION WAHT? I DONT EVEN WHAT IS THAT?
349: [11:48:07] <kinglozzer> Meh, conditional comments - IE8 gets non-responsive
350: [11:48:08] <kinglozzer> :P
351: [11:48:13] <Pyromanik> said IE8, every time, ever.
352: [11:48:20] <Pyromanik> :P
353: [11:48:21] <Colin[pi]> DIAF IE
354: [11:49:01] * Shrike_Finland quit (Quit: Leaving.)
355: [11:52:56] <Pyromanik> wait why are all you folk still awake?
356: [11:53:19] <kinglozzer> Today's MySQL fun - all my tables are corrupted, for every single database. "show tables;" shows all the tables, "show fields in Member;" tells me that the table Member doesn't exist
357: [11:53:22] <Colin[pi]> because work
358: [11:53:27] <Colin[pi]> have too much :(
359: [11:53:39] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi], pay me.
360: [11:53:43] <Pyromanik> problem solved.
361: [11:53:54] <Colin[pi]> Pyromanik: very bloody tempting
362: [11:54:00] <Pyromanik> k
363: [11:54:01] <Pyromanik> JFDI
364: [11:54:12] <Pyromanik> just fuck'n do it.
365: [11:54:28] <Pyromanik> what do you need?
366: [11:54:48] <Pyromanik> urgh, this bread is a day old at least, why does it still smell freshly baked?
367: [11:54:48] <Colin[pi]> I need to finish one site that needs freight calculation on ss-shop
368: [11:55:01] <Colin[pi]> but.. I need to decide on the freight provider :(
369: [11:55:02] <Pyromanik> freight calculation based on...
370: [11:55:06] <Colin[pi]> because the last one is shit
371: [11:55:10] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi], just make it options?
372: [11:55:27] <Colin[pi]> oh I want to send something bigger than a fucking matchbox: HOLY SHIT ITS TOO BIG OMG
373: [11:55:47] <Colin[pi]> so that company sucks... and trying to find a replacement is super hard
374: [11:55:52] <Colin[pi]> so many mixed opinions
375: [11:56:03] <Pyromanik> oh is this for your own stuffs?
376: [11:56:17] <Pyromanik> sucks to live in aussie.
377: [11:56:21] <Colin[pi]> no it's for a company that wants to send some big heavy shit
378: [11:56:24] <Pyromanik> the choice is easy in NZ
379: [11:56:34] <Pyromanik> there is only one continuum.
380: [11:56:54] <Pyromanik> "Do I want to pay for it to get there, or do I want to pay fuck all and have it take 2 months to arrive?"
381: [11:57:37] <Colin[pi]> yeah but the client has tasked me with finding the freight provider, and I know fuck all
382: [11:57:56] <Pyromanik> Because if choosing PBT or Fastway, '2 day delivery' really means 'some time later in the week... maybe.'
383: [11:58:06] <Colin[pi]> the last one I thought was good, solid API... all integrated.. then we tried to start shipping stuff and it falls over on anything slightly big
384: [11:58:13] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi], that is fucking retarded on behalf of the client.
385: [11:58:18] <Colin[pi]> yes
386: [11:58:24] <Pyromanik> oh, I see, api.
387: [11:58:26] <Pyromanik> that sucks.
388: [11:58:43] <Colin[pi]> he's one of those "I'm busy so you do it" - "but... but.. I know fuck all abou..." "JUST DO IT"
389: [11:58:46] <Colin[pi]> *okay*
390: [11:59:17] <Pyromanik> wtf
391: [11:59:23] <Pyromanik> some bitch tried to add me on linked in
392: [11:59:33] <Pyromanik> previous occupation in canada
393: [11:59:43] <Pyromanik> 'hmm ok maybe she moved to NZ and I forgot about her'
394: [11:59:50] <Pyromanik> CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN CALIFORNIA
395: [11:59:55] <Pyromanik> dafuq you mad ho?
396: [12:00:09] <Pyromanik> DO YOU EVEN LINKEDIN?
397: [12:00:18] <Colin[pi]> I had some guy who runs a gym add me from like brisbane.. dafuq
398: [12:02:51] <Pyromanik> urgh, that awkward feeling when you learn that better chaps at selling websites has also left your previous employer. That's... interesting.
399: [12:03:18] <Colin[pi]> :\
400: [12:03:21] <Pyromanik> I wonder what's going on there.
401: [12:05:01] <Pyromanik> wholey sht, hot bitches checking out my linkedin profile
402: [12:05:06] <Colin[pi]> :o
403: [12:05:09] <Pyromanik> ikr
404: [12:05:11] <Pyromanik> wtf
405: [12:05:16] <Pyromanik> I don't even have a picture
406: [12:05:47] <irogue23> < Pyromanik> Because if choosing PBT or Fastway, '2 day delivery' really means 'some time later in the week... maybe.'
407: [12:05:51] <irogue23> ughghghghg
408: [12:05:59] <irogue23> motherfucking PBT
409: [12:06:21] <irogue23> took them a week to get something from south auckland to hamilton
410: [12:07:00] <irogue23> thats like... an hour drive away
411: [12:07:13] <irogue23> HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO SUCK SO HARD
412: [12:09:17] * pippy quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
413: [12:10:48] <Pyromanik> irogue23, because, pbt.
414: [12:11:16] <kinglozzer> Heh, in the UK the one to avoid is Yodel. I sent a PC once with them, the collecting it saw the delivery guy pick it up from the van, drop it to the floor to shut the van doors, then hit it on his garden gate as well
415: [12:11:30] <Pyromanik> The only company to enter the market as a post haste alternative and make it their mission goal to not only defeat Fastway, but smash their records at their own game.
416: [12:11:51] <kinglozzer> The graphics card was bent out of the PCIE slot, completely broken
417: [12:11:55] <Pyromanik> lol wtf kinglozzer.
418: [12:12:06] <Pyromanik> some people in this country though, it's like 'wtf'.
419: [12:12:19] <Pyromanik> service is an... unknown skill.
420: [12:12:54] <irogue23> Pyromanik: as far as i'm concerned NZ has two courier companies, the others are "package breaking/losing services"
421: [12:13:01] <Colin[pi]> welp I'm off, nn all
422: [12:13:09] <Pyromanik> nn Colin[pi]
423: [12:13:14] <irogue23> laters Colin[pi]
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425: [12:13:22] <Pyromanik> irogue23, I'd trust NZC too.
426: [12:13:27] <Pyromanik> but... yeh.
427: [12:13:36] <irogue23> Pyromanik: that's the other of the 2 :P
428: [12:13:44] <Pyromanik> Post haste?
429: [12:13:46] <irogue23> CourierPost and NZC
430: [12:13:51] <Pyromanik> and post haste.
431: [12:13:58] <Pyromanik> if you're into 2 day deliveries.
432: [12:14:07] <irogue23> Post Haste is NZC pretending to not be NZC :P
433: [12:14:14] <Pyromanik> if you want something post haste better to go with the flagship :P
434: [12:14:21] <Pyromanik> irogue23, well yes and no.
435: [12:14:26] <irogue23> its like Noel Leeming and Bond&Bond all over again
436: [12:14:38] <Pyromanik> they're under the same umbrella, and often even share depots, but yeh.
437: [12:14:46] <Pyromanik> operate as separate entities.
438: [12:14:50] <irogue23> Pyromanik: ish :P
439: [12:14:59] <irogue23> the seperation seems to be getting blurrier
440: [12:15:00] <Pyromanik> different sections in the market too
441: [12:15:13] <Pyromanik> irogue23, well, always was, but now people just know it :P
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443: [12:15:40] <irogue23> at snappernet last year, the post haste guy had left and they hadn't got a replacement yet
444: [12:15:44] <Pyromanik> NZC, Post Haste, Castle Parcels, NOW couriers, DX Mail, all the same people.
445: [12:15:49] <irogue23> so the NZC guy was doing his dropoffs/pickups as well
446: [12:15:56] <irogue23> Pyromanik: yeah, i know, freightways
447: [12:16:00] <Pyromanik> oh, sub 60, secure couriers
448: [12:16:03] <Pyromanik> :P
449: [12:16:06] <Pyromanik> yeh
450: [12:16:15] * irogue23 is a freightways customer :P
451: [12:16:30] <Pyromanik> parceline and airfrieght too, but they're technically not public facing or courier companies
452: [12:16:36] <irogue23> i have an nzc account, they let me buy some but not all post haste services on my nzc account
453: [12:16:39] <irogue23> its weird
454: [12:16:50] * Pyromanik worked for Parceline and NZC at various points.
455: [12:17:02] <Pyromanik> hehe, weird indeed.
456: [12:17:51] <irogue23> i can buy 2 day SI post haste tickets through nzc but not anything else
457: [12:18:12] <irogue23> presumably since it doesn't compete directly with an nzc service
458: [12:19:13] <irogue23> but then sometimes the nzc courier won't pick up the posthaste parcel even though i bought the ticket through posthaste (and the nzc courier delivered them)
459: [12:19:23] <Pyromanik> haha
460: [12:19:28] <Pyromanik> yeh, weird.
461: [12:19:38] <irogue23> and they share depot in hams
462: [12:19:47] <irogue23> so no obv reason not to pick it up
463: [12:20:06] <irogue23> since i know they have combined tracking etc. system
464: [12:20:23] <Pyromanik> oh
465: [12:20:35] <Pyromanik> share in hams even? interesting.
466: [12:20:59] <Pyromanik> must just be the three major cities, maybe PMR too
467: [12:20:59] <Pyromanik> palmy nth
468: [12:21:57] <irogue23> Pyromanik: they maintain a "look seperate-ish" presence out front
469: [12:22:20] <irogue23> different reception doors right next to each other, receptionist wearing correct uniform etc
470: [12:22:31] <Pyromanik> hmm, aww, that moment when you realise hot bitch checking out your linkedin profile is actually a stock photo :L
471: [12:22:51] <irogue23> but out back its all merged up and everyone's wearing either nzc of freightways uniforms
472: [12:22:54] <Pyromanik> irogue23, yeh I know. They'll be separate out back too. Different teams, etc.
473: [12:22:59] <Pyromanik> in different uniforms.
474: [12:23:11] <irogue23> Pyromanik: nope, not the sorters etc at least
475: [12:23:24] <Pyromanik> hmm, different to when I worked there (although I wasn't in hams either)
476: [12:23:40] <irogue23> http://goo.gl/maps/TzlEj
477: [12:23:46] <irogue23> fancy new depot
478: [12:23:49] <Pyromanik> we had separate teams, separate uniforms, separate bins, the whole lot.
479: [12:24:08] <Pyromanik> basically was just an invisible wall between the two depots
480: [12:24:17] <irogue23> yep
481: [12:24:27] <Pyromanik> although I think the TCP's went out in the same truck, although I'm not completely sure.
482: [12:24:35] <irogue23> PH fairly small in hams
483: [12:24:38] <Pyromanik> this was... 2005 or 6
484: [12:24:39] <irogue23> barely ever see them
485: [12:25:09] <irogue23> like at start/end of run there'll be a line of vans down that street waiting to get out onto kahikatea drive
486: [12:25:09] <Pyromanik> I know hlz was busy as hell though because oneday
487: [12:25:22] <irogue23> roughly 1 posthaste per 10 nzc vans
488: [12:25:25] <Pyromanik> haha
489: [12:25:38] <irogue23> so not surprising that it seems like nzc just handle all of posthaste's stuff as well
490: [12:25:46] <irogue23> Pyromanik: 1-day use courierpost
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492: [12:27:18] <Pyromanik> now.
493: [12:27:22] <irogue23> Pyromanik: the t7/1-day depot was a very short distance from the courierpost depot, so there was just one courier whose sole job was driving the 3km or so between them
494: [12:27:26] <irogue23> back and forwards
495: [12:27:35] <irogue23> and he made a *fuckton*
496: [12:27:39] <Pyromanik> I bet.
497: [12:27:44] <Pyromanik> lucky fucker.
498: [12:27:45] <irogue23> since every single trip was a completely full transit
499: [12:27:53] <Pyromanik> all dem tix
500: [12:28:09] <irogue23> i used to go drinking with a bunch of the t7/1-day folks
501: [12:28:14] <irogue23> including leon the courier
502: [12:28:19] <Pyromanik> haha
503: [12:28:26] <irogue23> since he was basically considered t7 staff
504: [12:28:32] <Pyromanik> yeh
505: [12:29:13] <irogue23> this was back in 2008 or so, so they mustnt have used nzc for long if they did
506: [12:32:00] <Pyromanik> yeah, I could easily be mistaken.
507: [12:32:18] <irogue23> or they couldve used NZC/PH for interisland
508: [12:32:26] <irogue23> like we used to at snappernet
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510: [12:32:42] <irogue23> cos courierpost was really expensive for interisland for a while cos they didn't offer a 2-day service
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512: [12:33:34] <Pyromanik> heh, mebbe.
513: [12:34:19] <irogue23> its quite handy in hams when you come home and find multiple companies' cards to call
514: [12:34:23] <irogue23> http://goo.gl/maps/i2Luk
515: [12:34:28] <irogue23> couriers are all super close together
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520: [12:49:36] <Pyromanik> hehe
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526: [13:38:14] <r3v3rb> hi all, can anyone help shed some light on this: http://sspaste.com/paste/show/52cd52019bca3
527: [13:38:44] <r3v3rb> This is part of a BuildTask that will run as a cron task once complete
528: [13:45:38] <micmania1> r3v3rb, posted a reply
529: [13:47:00] <r3v3rb> micmania1: already fixed :D but thanks
530: [13:48:19] <r3v3rb> micmania1: my mistake manged to be that I had misappropriated the database field for the date in the EmailMessages getCMSFields so foolishly I wasn't actually storing the date anywhere ! lol
531: [13:48:24] <r3v3rb> managed*
532: [13:48:34] <micmania1> lol
533: [13:48:55] <micmania1> You could use the 'Created' field which is automatically added to DataObjects
534: [13:49:33] <r3v3rb> unfortunately not as the field is used to specify a date in the future that an email needs to be automagically sent
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540: [14:02:45] <r3v3rb> kinglozzer: lo
541: [14:03:29] <kinglozzer> lo r3v3rb
542: [14:03:36] <r3v3rb> :) how do
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544: [14:13:41] <kinglozzer> r3v3rb: Not well actually :(
545: [14:13:50] <kinglozzer> Oh ><
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548: [14:19:58] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, how are you faring down the bottom of the country there?
549: [14:20:14] <Pyromanik> had any strife? :S
550: [14:21:09] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: no thank goodness. I'm in the 'weald' country that has been fairly safe
551: [14:21:27] <r3v3rb> It's been very wet but other than that its not bad
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553: [14:22:04] <irogue23> haha
554: [14:22:26] <Pyromanik> haha?
555: [14:22:31] <irogue23> Delta just had to log with comms that he's just been snapped by a speed camera
556: [14:22:44] <Pyromanik> Delta being a road patrol?
557: [14:22:48] <irogue23> dog unit
558: [14:22:53] <Pyromanik> ah
559: [14:22:56] <Pyromanik> haha
560: [14:23:04] <irogue23> hamilton dog unit on its way to cambridge in quite a hurry for a burg in progress
561: [14:23:07] <Pyromanik> I take it he wasn't on delpoyment :P
562: [14:23:11] <Pyromanik> ah
563: [14:23:15] <Pyromanik> so he was, no biggie then
564: [14:23:18] <irogue23> yup
565: [14:23:41] <irogue23> just obv has to log it so it's on record he was enroute to a job when caught
566: [14:23:45] <Pyromanik> yeh
567: [14:23:52] <r3v3rb> anyone know the 'usual' width of a campaign email these days?
568: [14:23:59] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, yeah, 0.
569: [14:24:07] <r3v3rb> is it 600px wide
570: [14:24:13] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: :0
571: [14:24:16] <Pyromanik> Because that's how much space they take up in my inbox.
572: [14:24:19] <irogue23> http://goo.gl/maps/WG6PU
573: [14:24:20] <Pyromanik> xD
574: [14:24:22] <irogue23> just took him 12 minutes
575: [14:24:33] <Pyromanik> "oh look, automated ema... *DELETE*"
576: [14:25:22] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, you could probably get away with 800 these days.
577: [14:25:28] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: haha
578: [14:25:29] <Pyromanik> most tablets do 800 don't they?
579: [14:25:34] <r3v3rb> I guess
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581: [14:25:42] <irogue23> r3v3rb: ya, 600 is what mailchimp does
582: [14:25:48] <Pyromanik> I mean, my phone is 320x480, but it's also 4 years old.
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584: [14:26:44] <r3v3rb> sure, I think I'll stick with 600px for now - it's only an automated email to members on a site but needs to be mobi friendly
585: [14:26:55] <micmania1> Just came across this: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/i-am-furious-with-the-font-in-the-texarea
586: [14:27:11] <micmania1> "I am furious with the font in the texarea" hahaha Wordpress....
587: [14:27:42] <Pyromanik> hahahhahaa derp
588: [14:28:22] <kinglozzer> Hahahaha
589: [14:28:27] * dangerdan quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
590: [14:28:30] <Pyromanik> also, fuck you misleading ambiguious headlines.
591: [14:28:32] <Pyromanik> Mulally Won't Run Microsoft
592: [14:28:38] <Pyromanik> I was all "HAHHAAH GNU FTW"
593: [14:29:01] <kinglozzer> http://99mobilesite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/cf7-font.jpg
594: [14:29:07] <kinglozzer> gggrrrrr....
595: [14:29:10] <Pyromanik> but no, just turns out to be some chob telling everyone that he ain't doing shit. He's CEO now, so he got other people fo' that.
596: [14:29:55] <micmania1> haha I never looked at the picture
597: [14:29:59] <Pyromanik> oh wait no, he's not even the MS CEO, he's Ford CEO.
598: [14:30:01] <Pyromanik> gah.
599: [14:30:06] <Pyromanik> dem shit articles.
600: [14:30:11] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: wtf?
601: [14:30:13] <irogue23> he was considered in the running for MS CEO
602: [14:30:32] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, yeah bad press everywhere. At least your papers make up for it with tits.
603: [14:31:03] <kinglozzer> <3 tits
604: [14:31:11] <irogue23> tits are overrated
605: [14:31:17] <kinglozzer> Ass man?
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607: [14:31:47] <irogue23> Pyromanik: the two most likely candidates are the heads of companies MS has acquired
608: [14:31:51] <Pyromanik> not quite kinglozzer...
609: [14:32:06] <Pyromanik> well, probably too. IDK, I never asked.
610: [14:32:06] <irogue23> Elop from Nokia and Bates from Skype
611: [14:32:18] <irogue23> kinglozzer: dick man ;)
612: [14:32:19] <Pyromanik> irogue23, yeh.
613: [14:32:30] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: sadly not the ones I read
614: [14:32:33] <Pyromanik> makes sense to promote from within.
615: [14:32:35] * r3v3rb = high brow
616: [14:32:40] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, haha. Legit.
617: [14:32:41] <r3v3rb> ;)
618: [14:32:42] <kinglozzer> irogue23: Ah :P
619: [14:32:42] <r3v3rb> lmao
620: [14:33:14] <Pyromanik> We put seeds on the windowsil so the tits will come to us!
621: [14:33:19] <Pyromanik> :D
622: [14:33:33] <kinglozzer> Haha
623: [14:33:52] <irogue23> sounds like delta's got 2/3
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625: [14:34:50] <Pyromanik> irogue23, hahaha
626: [14:34:51] <Pyromanik> bets on the trifector?
627: [14:34:51] <Pyromanik> also, I highly doubt this robbery will still be in progress when he arrives :<
628: [14:35:00] <Pyromanik> also, rofl @ 'CES'
629: [14:35:29] <irogue23> Pyromanik: i mean he's caught 2/3 of the offenders
630: [14:35:32] <Pyromanik> michael bay forgets why he comes on stage because he doesn't have a machine telling him what to do, and Gabe Newell just doesn't give enough of a shit about crappy show.
631: [14:35:42] <Pyromanik> irogue23, oh wow
632: [14:35:52] <Pyromanik> I thought you meant 2/3 speed cameras :P
633: [14:35:54] <irogue23> Pyromanik: he'd arrived by the time i mentioned it, took him 12 minutes from hamilton to the backend of cambridge
634: [14:36:01] <Pyromanik> wholey shit.
635: [14:36:12] <Pyromanik> that's flying!
636: [14:36:20] <irogue23> http://goo.gl/maps/WG6PU
637: [14:36:45] <r3v3rb> anyone like this: http://panorama.magnet.2020.net/view/a1abiebuqk25pyylsstfg/
638: [14:36:50] <Pyromanik> yeah I know it, i used to travel it about every other weekend.
639: [14:36:58] <irogue23> heh
640: [14:37:05] <irogue23> yeah, delta tends to fly a lot :P
641: [14:37:51] <irogue23> since there's only deltas in hamilton and thames, and trackable smells only last so long
642: [14:38:01] <Pyromanik> I've flown through there a few times myself, but never at that speed.
643: [14:38:10] <Pyromanik> this is true irogue23
644: [14:38:15] <irogue23> when there's something out-of-town they *fly* there so the scent's still hot by the time they get there
645: [14:38:51] <irogue23> r3v3rb: the kitchen design or what?
646: [14:38:52] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, 404
647: [14:39:15] <Pyromanik> oh suddnely goes, wtf, idek
648: [14:39:33] <irogue23> i see capsicum and cake
649: [14:39:39] <irogue23> i like both of those things very much
650: [14:39:51] <r3v3rb> yeh sorry the kitchen design irogue23
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652: [14:40:38] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, is that gap to the left of the sink for the fridge?
653: [14:40:57] <Pyromanik> not sure oven on the other side of the room sits well with me, but then again I always get mega frutrated when the missus gets in my way in the kitchen so having somewhere so separate for her to hang out could be good.
654: [14:40:59] <r3v3rb> no, unfortunately its an old barn door that you cant quite see
655: [14:41:02] <irogue23> r3v3rb: i'm not a fan of that styling, personally
656: [14:41:15] <irogue23> but that's personal taste etc
657: [14:41:23] <r3v3rb> irogue23: me either its my wifes plan
658: [14:41:26] <irogue23> hahahahaha
659: [14:41:30] <irogue23> city cameras been caught sleeping again
660: [14:41:31] <r3v3rb> I need back up!
661: [14:41:48] <Pyromanik> I like having faculties grouped. ie, easy access oven, sink, fridge etc.
662: [14:42:04] <Pyromanik> you've got a whole breakfast bar in the way and no counter where the oven is.
663: [14:42:20] <Pyromanik> 'counter' - so fuck'n american. No bench top.
664: [14:42:22] <r3v3rb> aye, but you try that in this shaped kitchen with wierd gas points etc
665: [14:42:32] <Pyromanik> oh right, gas oven.
666: [14:42:38] <Pyromanik> well, move the sink :P
667: [14:42:50] <Pyromanik> also, where the hell does the fridge go?
668: [14:42:51] <Pyromanik> also
669: [14:42:53] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: I call it a penisula - high brow ;D
670: [14:42:55] <Pyromanik> happy wife, happy life.
671: [14:43:00] <irogue23> the breakfast bar really seems like it'd be quite the chokepoint getting between the oven side and the sink side
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673: [14:43:08] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: fridge is in one of the two large uprights
674: [14:43:28] <r3v3rb> irogue23: the gap is just under 1m
675: [14:43:57] <Pyromanik> yeah. I can see it being a bit of a ... blocker!
676: [14:43:57] <Pyromanik> xD
677: [14:43:57] * Pyromanik sunglasses the shit up in here
678: [14:44:12] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, a cupboard door disguised fridge?
679: [14:44:22] <irogue23> yeah. more than one person working in the kitchen at once, or guests getting in the way while you're trying to cook
680: [14:44:27] <r3v3rb> bbiab
681: [14:44:31] <irogue23> obv its hard if the gas point is fixed over that side
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683: [14:44:46] <irogue23> haha
684: [14:45:10] <irogue23> "i think cameras is having a bit of a nigh-nighs"
685: [14:45:13] <Pyromanik> I am not sure why overhead cupboards so much.
686: [14:45:19] <Pyromanik> irogue23,?
687: [14:45:47] <irogue23> Pyromanik: units trying to contact cameras on the radio
688: [14:45:48] <irogue23> no response
689: [14:45:54] <irogue23> asked comms to call them on telephone, no answer
690: [14:45:55] <Pyromanik> oh speed cams?
691: [14:46:06] <irogue23> Pyromanik: nah, cbd cctv
692: [14:46:11] <Pyromanik> ah,hah
693: [14:46:18] <Pyromanik> probably old folk voulteers
694: [14:46:26] <Pyromanik> my grandfather used to do that kinda thing
695: [14:46:33] <irogue23> nah, is monitored by Waikato Security
696: [14:46:36] <Pyromanik> night shift watching cctv
697: [14:46:38] <Pyromanik> ah, hahaha
698: [14:47:14] <irogue23> dedicated guard just for the cbd cameras, based in transport centre (which is used as a bit of a satellite council office)
699: [14:47:31] <Pyromanik> there's only one seat at that breakfast ba.
700: [14:47:33] <Pyromanik> bar*
701: [14:50:05] <irogue23> heh, some of the "good guy greg" things police do
702: [14:50:28] * kinglozzer quit ()
703: [14:51:04] <irogue23> "can you log an insecure premises job for <address>? looks like a delivery truck has come and left the roller door up. result it K-1 (no further action), i've found a button inside and the roller door seems to be going down now"
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705: [14:52:44] <Pyromanik> heh irogue23, choice.
706: [14:52:54] <Pyromanik> Safer communities together.
707: [14:52:58] <irogue23> exactly :P
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709: [14:55:43] <Pyromanik> irogue23, are you moonlighting for some european crowd or something?
710: [14:55:52] <Pyromanik> or just... nightowl'n coz you can.
711: [14:58:42] <irogue23> Pyromanik: i like nights
712: [14:58:59] <irogue23> work better, esp in summer cos not fuckin hot
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714: [15:02:38] <irogue23> "HLN from CBT, you happy for me to call these boys' mum and get the ball rolling?"
715: [15:02:42] <irogue23> heh, obv youths
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717: [15:02:56] <[2]Pyromanik> fffff
718: [15:03:06] <irogue23> lol
719: [15:03:08] <[2]Pyromanik> suddenly everything going wrong
720: [15:03:20] <[2]Pyromanik> wifi intermittency, found blown bulb in bathroom.
721: [15:03:26] <irogue23> "HLN from CBT, you happy for me to call these boys' mum and get the ball rolling?"
722: [15:03:35] <irogue23> heh, obv youths
723: [15:03:35] <[2]Pyromanik> no interwebs no job apps ability :<
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726: [15:04:12] <irogue23> Pyromanik: still on the hunt eh
727: [15:04:26] <Pyromanik> irogue23, yeh I wouldn't be chatting here all day otherwise probably
728: [15:04:44] <Pyromanik> tbh I'm still half in holiday mode.
729: [15:05:09] <irogue23> lol
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731: [15:06:24] <kinglozzer> Anyone use Vagrant? Is it easy to set up? I'm so fucked off with constantly having to uninstall/reinstall MySQL and restore databases from SQL backups..
732: [15:06:29] <Pyromanik> gotta write CV
733: [15:06:37] <Pyromanik> hate personal statement and hobbies bit
734: [15:06:47] <Pyromanik> like wtf hell does it matter what my hobbies are.
735: [15:07:15] <irogue23> Pyromanik: i never do any personal shit
736: [15:07:20] <Pyromanik> kinglozzer, vagrant? is that like chef or puppet or one of those other tooly things?
737: [15:07:27] <irogue23> one-pager, education & relevant work exp
738: [15:07:36] <Pyromanik> irogue23, heh :P
739: [15:07:44] <Pyromanik> I just write faff. It's pretty easy.
740: [15:07:52] <kinglozzer> Pyromanik: Idk, mini VMs as far as I understand it
741: [15:07:56] <kinglozzer> http://www.vagrantup.com/
742: [15:08:16] <Pyromanik> You should see the one I gave to my last job. It basically said "You are going to hire me, because I do what you need and I'm fuck'n good at it."
743: [15:08:31] <Pyromanik> and I got hired :P
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745: [15:21:43] <Pyromanik> fuck me, the bathroom light is in some kind of impenetrable barrier that I can't see how to disarm because it's fuck'n night time in there :<
746: [15:23:59] <Pyromanik> lol turns out it's 'vandal proof' so you just bash and squeeze it and it pops out
747: [15:24:07] <Pyromanik> wtf, who designs a system like that
748: [15:28:33] <irogue23> wat
749: [15:28:36] <irogue23> where are you, a prison?
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751: [15:37:09] <Pyromanik> lol no.
752: [15:37:26] <Pyromanik> I googled the product name and read the sales pitch.
753: [15:37:37] <Pyromanik> presumably it means "pick me, hotel owners"
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755: [15:43:25] <irogue23> they're still hunting for the remaining kid from the liquor store
756: [15:43:33] <irogue23> cos not much happening in hamilton
757: [15:44:00] <Pyromanik> lol 'call their mother', must be under 18
758: [15:44:05] <irogue23> yup
759: [15:44:11] <irogue23> can't buy liquor, better steal it!
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761: [15:44:44] <micmania1> I hate Wordpress.
762: [15:45:20] <irogue23> micmania1: you're in the right channel!
763: [15:45:26] <micmania1> haha
764: [15:46:23] <micmania1> Why does it even exist?!?! Like, who spends their time developing it?
765: [15:49:22] <irogue23> its one of those things that *should* be started from scratch
766: [15:49:36] <irogue23> but they don't want to piss off all the plugin devs
767: [15:50:33] <irogue23> needs to be rewritten in OO with a proper plugin system
768: [15:55:52] <micmania1> it needs to die
769: [15:57:42] <Pyromanik> everyone hates wordderp
770: [15:57:59] <Pyromanik> that's why it's called wordderp. Everyone that thinks it's a good idea is too derp to know otherwise.
771: [15:58:34] <Pyromanik> because dirpeity derp derp hurp durp.
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777: [16:21:07] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, what is the goal of kitchen?
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782: [17:15:29] <Pyromanik> D: hungry
783: [17:15:36] <Pyromanik> halp waht do?
784: [17:27:27] <Azure> I have a dataobject in a $has_one relationship with a page, which has getCMSFields defined in it. Not quite sure how to get the fields added to the page in the admin.
785: [17:47:30] <Pyromanik> you use simon_w's module for editing a has_one
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792: [18:43:01] <catcher> Azure, you could also insert the fields yourself and write them accordingly in OnBeforeWrite().
793: [18:43:54] <catcher> on* rather
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809: [19:36:02] <simon_w> catcher, the writing bit's effort (especially if you use dot notation for the fields). Just use my module :p
810: [19:37:11] <catcher> simon_w, I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out. I'm surprised it won't go to core, seems like it'll be useful for a lot of people.
811: [19:38:52] <simon_w> I should probably set it up so you can use dot notation too, or at least fix loadDataFrom() so it handles $_POST things with dots in them better
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818: [19:58:05] <5EXAADOFI> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1758 (3.1 - efa309c : Sriram Venkatesh): The build passed.
819: [19:58:05] <5EXAADOFI> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/ac1658b500c5...efa309c9778c
820: [19:58:06] <5EXAADOFI> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/16609299
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824: [20:18:27] <Pyromanik> dafuq
825: [20:18:36] <Pyromanik> travis ci turned into sex a dofi
826: [20:18:56] <simon_w> Spam bot, ban it
827: [20:19:54] <Pyromanik> srsly?
828: [20:20:02] <simon_w> Nah
829: [20:20:15] <Pyromanik> yeh that's what I thought. Links seem legit.
830: [20:20:37] <simon_w> Also, I did just make that commit
831: [20:20:50] <Pyromanik> merge you mean?
832: [20:21:13] <simon_w> I'm the committer, but not the author
833: [20:21:32] <simon_w> Wasn't a merge commit either
834: [20:21:52] <simon_w> Had to stick it in a different branch and fix the commit message
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840: [20:33:16] <SphereSilverNL> \o
841: [20:33:28] <Pyromanik> 'lo
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843: [20:33:32] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1759 (master - 39d42e4 : Simon Welsh): The build passed.
844: [20:33:32] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/87b5451d2d48...39d42e4ea350
845: [20:33:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/16609507
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847: [20:36:12] <Pyromanik> oh, trolled by own machine.
848: [20:36:18] <Pyromanik> Listening to music.
849: [20:36:38] <Pyromanik> suddenly "The multi-stage fitness test will start in 30 seconds" ... *beep*
850: [20:36:46] <Pyromanik> ... *beep*
851: [20:36:47] <Pyromanik> etc.
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853: [20:36:56] <simon_w> beep test!
854: [20:36:57] <Pyromanik> get on board ss-log
855: [20:36:59] <Pyromanik> ss23,
856: [20:37:10] <Pyromanik> simon_w, yeh xD
857: [20:37:22] <Pyromanik> remember it played at the last hackfest I was at :P
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860: [20:47:25] <SphereSilverNL> I just bought a 200+ ZyXEL modem for 50 euros
861: [20:47:32] <SphereSilverNL> Not complaining about that at all :D
862: [20:55:59] <Pyromanik> I dunno what that is :<
863: [20:56:22] <Pyromanik> but at first glance I thought you'd just bought a piece of nostalgic history for yourself.
864: [20:57:38] <Pyromanik> and I was thinking "man, I would never have biffed out my 56k ISA hardware modem if I'd known I could have gotten 50 euros for it one day!"
865: [21:01:13] <ss23> lol Pyromanik
866: [21:01:15] <ss23> fuck the beep test!
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871: [21:24:54] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: going back to earlier convo regarding purpose of kitchen - for me find beer, for wife cook, clean, stress, cry, scream etc etc
872: [21:24:59] <r3v3rb> :)
873: [21:27:09] <Colin[pi]> your wife uses the kitchen to stress cry and scream?
874: [21:27:35] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, so what does it matter if you don't like it? Happy wife; happy life!
875: [21:27:48] <catcher> ^ truth
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877: [21:28:20] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, I think my major reasoning for the "hmm, not sure" is all the overhead head whackey cupboards
878: [21:28:30] <Pyromanik> bench space is crowded and dark.
879: [21:28:37] <Pyromanik> employ a better kitchen planner.
880: [21:28:38] <Pyromanik> :P
881: [21:28:47] <simon_w> So, it's an English kitchen? :p
882: [21:29:06] <Pyromanik> Personally I'd go for some kind of island type setup, but the shape of the room is probably quite limiting in that regard.
883: [21:29:27] <Pyromanik> simon_w, yeh pretty much. Something we grew out of back in the 70's :P
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885: [21:30:03] <Pyromanik> r3v3rb, so in the case of the room shape being inhibiting I'd go true kiwi fashion and knock out a wall and/or move some doors around.
886: [21:30:48] <Pyromanik> extend a wee patio/deck out where the dining table window is...
887: [21:30:53] <Pyromanik> some french doors
888: [21:30:58] <Pyromanik> dat indoor outdoor flow xD
889: [21:31:20] <Pyromanik> get yourself a nice big BBQ for summer months just out there.
890: [21:31:26] <simon_w> Wait for it to fall over in an earthquake, build it from scratch with insurance money when it shows up 10 years later?
891: [21:31:32] <ss23> lol
892: [21:31:34] <Pyromanik> rofl
893: [21:31:37] <Pyromanik> haha xD
894: [21:31:58] <Pyromanik> this ain't the ring of fire (he says knocking on wood, fuck that tempting fate shit)
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896: [21:32:54] <Pyromanik> dat r3v3rb dun gone silent again
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899: [21:37:54] <simon_w> Maybe his wife saw what he said
900: [21:39:00] <r3v3rb> Pyromanik: sorry, pricing up some stuff in background
901: [21:39:29] <r3v3rb> yes, knocking walls out would be great except for the two chimney stacks in the two rooms
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903: [21:45:22] <r3v3rb> anyone know if adding the comment system to a single dataobject is easy/hard in SS3?
904: [21:45:47] <simon_w> It's easy
905: [21:46:03] <simon_w> Though not with github being broken at the moment
906: [21:46:31] <r3v3rb> does it support member/group access to the system?
907: [21:46:48] <r3v3rb> ie. can I specify a group of users that have access to the comments?
908: [21:46:48] <simon_w> In what way?
909: [21:47:02] <r3v3rb> to add/edit/delete on the frontend?
910: [21:47:18] <simon_w> Well, you can stick some logic in the if you stick around showing the form
911: [21:47:57] <r3v3rb> okay, so create a function that only returns the form based on the current member ;) nice
912: [21:48:27] * r3v3rb goes to check his local github repo
913: [21:48:58] <r3v3rb> crud, and guess which module I don't have in there!
914: [21:49:05] <simon_w> Also, https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-comments/blob/master/docs/en/Configuration.md
915: [21:50:36] <r3v3rb> Commenting::add('Foo', array( <- means the 'Foo' dataobject now supports commenting - correct?
916: [21:50:48] <simon_w> yes
917: [21:51:07] * r3v3rb falls in love with SS a little bit more
918: [21:51:13] <ss23> lol
919: [21:51:19] <ss23> Bittne by the silver bug!
920: [21:51:21] <ss23> bitten*
921: [21:51:23] <r3v3rb> no not you ss23
922: [21:51:28] <r3v3rb> ;)
923: [21:51:39] <ss23> :O
924: [21:51:43] <r3v3rb> lol, been in love since 2.3 or some such number
925: [21:51:44] <ss23> XD
926: [21:52:23] <r3v3rb> but 3.1/2 and its breaking apart of framework/cms/reports/comments etc just makes the whole thing super slick
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928: [21:54:19] <r3v3rb> right time to sleep whilst the UK fills up with rain again
929: [21:54:52] <r3v3rb> night all
930: [21:54:55] <ss23> Night :)
931: [21:55:03] <r3v3rb> thanks simon_w for the answers
932: [21:55:10] <r3v3rb> ... again ... :D
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934: [21:58:20] <Pyromanik> safe sleeps r3v3rb, hope your bed doesn't turn into a boat.
935: [21:59:10] <Pyromanik> oh man people that thing open GL is just for renders and scientific apps because 'directx is for speed' make me rage so hard.
936: [22:01:20] <guzzlefry> That's because asshats confuse interface for implmentation. :P
937: [22:02:05] <catcher> If you were the config.yml equivalent of Director::addRules(10, array('apps/$type/$doc' => 'App_Controller'));, what would you be?
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940: [22:04:09] <danfo> hi #silverstripe - I'm having a wee issue and I'm not sure where to start with it
941: [22:05:01] <catcher> or routes.yml, as it were
942: [22:05:32] <danfo> I guess it's a pretty whack setup. silverstripe 2.4, hhvm nightly, varnish
943: [22:05:54] <catcher> ah nm,I think I've got it
944: [22:06:33] <danfo> but yes... when I go to /admin, it redirects to /Security/login?BackURL=%2Fadmin - I login, it redirects to /admin, then back to /Security/login?BackURL=%2Fadmin again
945: [22:07:07] <simon_w> danfo, session cookies getting eaten somewhere?
946: [22:07:15] <danfo> simon_w :D
947: [22:07:22] <danfo> haha
948: [22:08:20] <danfo> I'm not sure, it is saying 'you are logged in as admin' on the login page then, but /admin doesn't continue on
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950: [22:10:17] <danfo> shop items are adding to the cart happily, so I think the session is ok.. I'll have a look into that though, thanks
951: [22:12:15] <simon_w> Hmm, well, all those things are stored in the session so it won't be that unless they're just disappearing on /admin requests
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954: [22:29:03] <EasyCo> Die IE8 Die!!! http://www.sitepoint.com/browser-trends-january-2014-yearly-review/
955: [22:30:15] <Colin[pi]> we can only hope
956: [22:30:40] <simon_w> It's more, Die XP Die
957: [22:31:01] <EasyCo> true
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959: [22:46:00] <mobiusnz1> interesting. http://e.govt.nz
960: [22:46:04] * mobiusnz1 is now known as mobiusnz
961: [22:46:14] <ss23> die die die, my darling
962: [22:46:16] <ss23> mobiusnz: :O
963: [22:47:42] <mobiusnz> someone buggered something up
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966: [22:49:56] <ss23> lol
967: [22:49:59] <ss23> mobiusnz: I blame government!
968: [22:50:11] <ss23> but idk, someone will email the government and see if they will fix it, idk
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970: [22:54:03] <pippy> I still support IE7 :(
971: [22:55:49] <danfo> "You're logged in as ..." but not allowed into /admin/ :(
972: [22:56:01] <danfo> waaah... so close yet so far
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980: [23:35:45] <EasyCo> IE7?
981: [23:35:52] <EasyCo> Why?
982: [23:39:06] <pippy> education providers :(
983: [23:39:23] <pippy> some of the machines around here are still xp/msie7
984: [23:39:44] <Colin[pi]> 99% of calls I get about something not working... I ask them "hmm let me guess, are you using IE?"
985: [23:39:53] <Colin[pi]> "WOW how did you know, are you psychic?"
986: [23:40:39] * mobiusnz quit (Quit: Leaving.)
987: [23:42:09] <ss23> Is that because 99% of your clients use IE?
988: [23:42:09] <ss23> :)
989: [23:42:32] <Colin[pi]> if they're in govt, it's almost a certainty :(
990: [23:42:55] <Colin[pi]> but the last dept I worked with, they were actually allowed to install an alternative, thank fuck
991: [23:43:30] <Colin[pi]> "well you could pay me to fix the issue so it works in your crappy old browser, or you could run another browser and have it working in 5 seconds"
992: [23:43:41] <Colin[pi]> (this is an admin-only thing btw, not a public site)
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