#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 18 December 2013

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1: [21:56:04] * ss-log has joined #silverstripe
2: [21:56:23] <r3v3rb> simon_w: charge consultancy fees :D I'll pay you in free website links for interesting stuff
3: [21:56:54] <simon_w> Hmm, do I make my consulting rate $300 or $400 per hour? :p
4: [21:57:04] <r3v3rb> $550
5: [21:57:29] <Ryan-Toast> How can I handle a redirect in a dataExtension?
6: [21:57:34] <r3v3rb> you only want to be working one or two days a week surely
7: [21:57:42] <simon_w> Ryan-Toast, Controller::curr()->redirect()
8: [21:57:49] <Ryan-Toast> chur
9: [21:57:58] <simon_w> r3v3rb, yup. Now, just need some clients...
10: [21:58:00] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: that'll be $550
11: [21:58:14] <simon_w> Hey, #silverstripe, pay me lots of money so I can slack off most of the time?
12: [21:58:17] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: Can I payt in singles?
13: [21:58:45] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: pay in shirt buttons for all I care it's simon_w who gets those fees :P
14: [21:58:53] <r3v3rb> muhahahahaaaaaa
15: [21:59:04] <r3v3rb> I think...
16: [21:59:04] <Ryan-Toast> r3v3rb: I only pay in pant buttons.
17: [21:59:09] <r3v3rb> (occassionally)
18: [21:59:16] <r3v3rb> it might be time to sleep
19: [21:59:17] <Ryan-Toast> pants buttons? Or pant buttons.
20: [21:59:20] <Ryan-Toast> Oh english.
21: [22:00:46] <r3v3rb> Ryan-Toast: yep I prefer Espanol - pero non muchas de genté hablar espanol aqui!
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24: [22:05:44] <r3v3rb> UncleCheese: ¿Usted no es Americano? Se puede hablar Espanol?
25: [22:06:25] * Colin[pi] has joined #silverstripe
26: [22:08:07] <UncleCheese> Soy bien Americano.. no hablo espanol
27: [22:08:45] <UncleCheese> Mais français, c'est une histoire différente.. dans cette langue je suis presque courant
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30: [22:15:28] <antmas> hmmmm
31: [22:15:57] * catcher quit (Quit: Leaving)
32: [22:16:08] * antmas puts on Mortal Kombat soundtrack
33: [22:16:10] <simon_w> HUNGRY
34: [22:16:10] <simon_w> SOMEONE FEED ME
35: [22:16:47] <Colin[pi]> morning all
36: [22:16:51] * antmas passes simon_w cake from vendor
37: [22:16:56] <Colin[pi]> HAI ANTMAS ^_^
38: [22:17:04] <antmas> Colin[pi]: HELLOOOOOOOOO !
39: [22:17:05] <simon_w> Oh you two, GET A ROOM
40: [22:17:15] <Colin[pi]> we already have ;)
41: [22:17:18] <antmas> XD
42: [22:17:22] <Colin[pi]> nudge nudge wink wink
43: [22:17:27] <simon_w> So I can kick you from this one then?
44: [22:17:30] <simon_w> :D
45: [22:17:32] <Colin[pi]> ;(
46: [22:17:40] <antmas> >.>
47: [22:17:59] <antmas> TEST YOUR MIGHT
48: [22:18:04] <antmas> EXCELLENT
49: [22:18:27] <Colin[pi]> hay simon_w, gonna be 35 here today
50: [22:18:37] <antmas> Colin[pi]: Happy Birthday
51: [22:18:41] <antmas> lol
52: [22:18:48] <Colin[pi]> wait what? lol
53: [22:18:59] <Colin[pi]> 37 tomorrow ;_;
54: [22:19:02] <simon_w> Colin[pi], sucks to be you!!
55: [22:19:16] <antmas> it's like 25 here and I'm already dying
56: [22:19:50] <Colin[pi]> I only have a fan too
57: [22:19:53] <Colin[pi]> no aircon ;(
58: [22:19:54] <simon_w> Colin[pi], your low of 19's higher than our high :p
59: [22:20:10] <Colin[pi]> lol
60: [22:20:12] <Colin[pi]> oh man
61: [22:20:13] <Colin[pi]> last night
62: [22:20:17] <Colin[pi]> so difficult to sleep
63: [22:20:20] <Colin[pi]> just a sheet
64: [22:20:23] <simon_w> Keep it PG!
65: [22:20:23] <Colin[pi]> so uncomfortable
66: [22:20:33] <antmas> dat sweat
67: [22:20:43] <Colin[pi]> can't even be close to my gf ;(
68: [22:21:02] <antmas> heh
69: [22:21:20] <antmas> my gf has a thyroid thing so she runs at like 5000c in Summer
70: [22:21:25] <Colin[pi]> lol
71: [22:21:36] <Colin[pi]> wow, is she powering the house?
72: [22:22:27] <simon_w> Colin[pi], work from the wanna-moat!
73: [22:23:00] <antmas> Colin[pi]: lol no, I just try to keep her away from the beer
74: [22:23:04] <simon_w> *wannabe
75: [22:24:56] <antmas> WHY DO THEY KEEP PUTTING FOOD BY MY DESK
76: [22:25:10] <Colin[pi]> antmas: because Christmas
77: [22:25:12] <simon_w> Fattening you up
78: [22:25:48] <guzzlefry> Are there any example for writing unit tests for things like controllers/pagetypes?
79: [22:25:59] <simon_w> FunctionalTests?
80: [22:26:07] <guzzlefry> err, maybe?
81: [22:26:10] <guzzlefry> I'm dumb with these things. :P
82: [22:27:18] <guzzlefry> Looks like fun.
83: [22:27:28] <guzzlefry> simon_w: Do docs outside of the API stuff exist?
84: [22:27:44] <simon_w> yes
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86: [22:30:51] <Colin[pi]> my poor PC is already complaining, the fans are pretty loud
87: [22:31:29] <guzzlefry> Colin[pi]: Might want to strap it down... :P
88: [22:32:06] <antmas> </3 noisy computers
89: [22:33:57] <Colin[pi]> love this case though, Antec P183
90: [22:34:11] <Colin[pi]> i turned up the fans a little and opened it's front panel ^_^
91: [22:34:34] <antmas> Colin[pi]: nice case
92: [22:34:48] <Colin[pi]> loooove it, my fav one I've ever owned
93: [22:34:50] <antmas> I'm looking very closely at a CM 130
94: [22:34:53] <Colin[pi]> and I've had a lot
95: [22:35:37] <Colin[pi]> antmas: is that the little one?
96: [22:35:50] <antmas> the one I miss the most, but was too heavy (steel) was the NZXT Whisper
97: [22:35:57] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah, miniITX
98: [22:36:01] <Colin[pi]> http://www.dvhardware.net/news/2013/cooler_master_elite_130.jpg ?
99: [22:36:14] <antmas> Colin[pi]: that's it
100: [22:36:14] <Colin[pi]> sweet looking case, I wonder how it is for noise though
101: [22:36:25] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I'm going water, so not very :P
102: [22:36:28] <Colin[pi]> oh lol
103: [22:36:54] <antmas> this was my last one http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/7/4/NZXT_Whisper_4.jpg
104: [22:37:05] <Colin[pi]> antmas: I used to have one of these as a HTPC: http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/images/barebones-2k3-may/q3000/q3000-face-mirror.jpg
105: [22:38:14] <antmas> Colin[pi]: I have this at the mo, but it's too big http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/mid-tower-cm690-series/cm693.html
106: [22:39:11] <Colin[pi]> that's a sweet case too
107: [22:39:19] <Colin[pi]> but yeah, ginormous
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109: [22:40:18] <Colin[pi]> did you see that Large Pixel Collider PC that pcgamer built?
110: [22:41:27] <Colin[pi]> http://lpc.pcgamer.com/ <--- PC you build when money is not an issue
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112: [22:48:47] <micmania1> I'm attempting to write tests for the CMS which needs to check that the correct template is being chosen...
113: [22:49:23] <micmania1> All the test templates are in the framework though
114: [22:49:26] * zippy__ quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
115: [22:50:03] <micmania1> Is there a way to add a new test template to the CMS? Even temporarily setting a new theme would work.
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117: [22:54:38] <antmas> Colin[pi]: hnnngnggg
118: [22:54:56] <Colin[pi]> dat PC?
119: [22:55:27] <antmas> Colin[pi]: dat PC indeed
120: [22:55:36] <Colin[pi]> 4 x Titans... I mean seriously
121: [22:55:48] <micmania1> Problem solved. :)
122: [22:55:50] <SphereSilverNL> You have 4 Titans?
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124: [22:56:06] <antmas> Colin[pi]: how much GDDR is that altogether?
125: [22:56:12] <Colin[pi]> SphereSilverNL: http://lpc.pcgamer.com/
126: [22:56:14] <antmas> isn't it like 4gb per titan?
127: [22:56:15] <SphereSilverNL> As in, the nVidia Titan, that produces better video-quality than the real world does?
128: [22:57:00] <SphereSilverNL> DO WANT! SANTA! WANT!
129: [22:57:37] <Colin[pi]> according to reports it cost about $10K to build
130: [22:57:53] <Colin[pi]> which is actually cheaper than I thought lol
131: [22:58:02] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah I was expecting 15
132: [22:58:15] <Colin[pi]> BUT CAN IT RUN CRYSIS HERP DERP
133: [22:58:24] <antmas> for that money though, I'd expect 2x CPUs
134: [22:59:20] <antmas> being a nerd
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136: [22:59:32] <antmas> how would you NOT build that if you won the lottery?
137: [22:59:52] <SphereSilverNL> Multi-CPU doesn't make much of a difference anymore
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139: [23:00:19] <Colin[pi]> does multi gpu make much of a difference? last time I did SLI it gave a small boost, like 15% more
140: [23:00:57] <antmas> Colin[pi]: yeah now days it does
141: [23:00:58] <SphereSilverNL> Ehhh, multi-GPI does make a difference. If you only get 15%, you don't have it set up correctly
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143: [23:01:28] <antmas> SphereSilverNL: Multi CPU does make a big difference, just not with games (which barely use 4x cores anyway)
144: [23:01:51] <Colin[pi]> SphereSilverNL: this was a while back though, older tech
145: [23:02:24] <SphereSilverNL> That machine has more fans than Justin Beiber... Epic remark
146: [23:05:04] <Colin[pi]> http://xkcd.com/1305/
147: [23:07:31] <antmas> huh, the GTX 780 Ti is actually faster in gaming than the Titan
148: [23:07:44] <Colin[pi]> yeah they never retain the crown for long
149: [23:08:23] <antmas> hence why I don't buy top end any more
150: [23:08:25] <SphereSilverNL> True, but from what I heard, the Titan is more stable in SLI setups. But that is not first-hand experience.
151: [23:08:38] <antmas> last top end card I had was a GTX290
152: [23:08:42] <antmas> 295*
153: [23:08:56] <Colin[pi]> the longest-lasting card I had (in terms of performance) was an ATI 9800 Pro
154: [23:09:02] <SphereSilverNL> You have a 290?
155: [23:09:03] <Colin[pi]> back in the day it just kept going and going
156: [23:09:27] <antmas> SphereSilverNL: I HAD an old nVidia GTX295 yeah
157: [23:09:55] <SphereSilverNL> I must admit, shamefully, I still upgrade my PC every 3 to 6 months to the latest hardware I consider being a bottleneck
158: [23:10:07] <SphereSilverNL> antmas: ah, the "had" part makes more sense indeed :D
159: [23:10:20] <Colin[pi]> wow that's much more regularly than me
160: [23:10:29] <antmas> I would upgrade more often, but I just don't game anymore
161: [23:10:48] <antmas> plus I'd need to get a whole new setup instead of piecemeal
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163: [23:11:21] <mojo5000> omfg
164: [23:11:27] <SphereSilverNL> wow
165: [23:11:28] <mojo5000> tinymce and p tags...
166: [23:11:36] <SphereSilverNL> let me rephrase that:
167: [23:11:41] <antmas> such tinyMCE
168: [23:11:43] <SphereSilverNL> "any wysiwig editor, omfg"
169: [23:11:48] <mojo5000> lol
170: [23:12:09] <mojo5000> trying to remove <p> paragraph tags
171: [23:12:15] <mojo5000> HtmlEditorConfig::get('cms')->setOption('forced_root_block', 0);
172: [23:12:17] <SphereSilverNL> Or users. "OMGF Users" works too ;)
173: [23:12:28] <mojo5000> can use this option
174: [23:12:45] <mojo5000> but then the very first sentence in front of a br
175: [23:12:54] <mojo5000> disappears when attempting to save
176: [23:13:07] <mojo5000> anyone had similar experiences? using ss 3.1
177: [23:13:15] <SphereSilverNL> want to hear my very bad solution?
178: [23:13:39] <mojo5000> let me guess... alter the css for p tags? :)
179: [23:13:44] <SphereSilverNL> onAfterWrite() { str_replace('<p>', '<div>', $this->Content); }
180: [23:14:08] <SphereSilverNL> I've had so much bad experiences with WYSIWTF editors, I just made it worse :P
181: [23:14:45] <mojo5000> hmm, i think tinymce is cleaning it before it gets to ss, yes?
182: [23:15:22] <Colin[pi]> mojo5000: yes
183: [23:16:04] <SphereSilverNL> The input is sanitized/edited to the editors liking, yes. The editor itself is an iframe, just pushing the resulting raw HTML to a textarea.
184: [23:16:25] <mojo5000> key is 1. I'd prefer not to have <p> tags at all. But - if I try to just have <br/> as line breaks, it is still removing that first line.
185: [23:16:44] <mojo5000> think that is a rule and it thinks its an invalid element?
186: [23:17:07] <mojo5000> i.e. - fasdfasdf<br/>foo
187: [23:17:09] * Azure quit (Quit: My MBP went to sleep.)
188: [23:17:17] <mojo5000> it will return <br/>foo
189: [23:17:57] * gelignite quit (Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT)
190: [23:18:09] <SphereSilverNL> <br /> is not allowed outside a block element, but that shouldn't matter. Sadly, WYSIWTF's think it does.
191: [23:18:20] <ezero> lol
192: [23:18:51] <ezero> yeah i don't like the strictness of the WYSIWTF editor
193: [23:18:53] <antmas> hnnnng
194: [23:19:04] <antmas> new Laborghini anouncing this week
195: [23:20:11] <mojo5000> the problem with default replacing the <p> tags with something like a <span> - is that sometimes I DO want a linebreak.
196: [23:20:15] <Colin[pi]> WYSIWTF editor, gonna have to remember that one
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198: [23:20:25] <mojo5000> yep :)
199: [23:20:53] <mojo5000> sry been banging my head on this the last few hrs, and SS caching does not help
200: [23:21:49] <mojo5000> anyone have other options?
201: [23:22:24] <ezero> yeah the cached javascript config is such a bitch as well and then having to reload the CMS all the time to see if it worked
202: [23:22:25] <mojo5000> i even tried HtmlEditorConfig::get('cms')->setOption('valid_elements', '*[*]');
203: [23:22:32] <SphereSilverNL> mojo5000: converting to a <div class="paragraph"> doesn't work?
204: [23:22:37] <mojo5000> to try to make all elements valid
205: [23:22:43] <SphereSilverNL> after saving and reloading, the WYSIWTF does accept that
206: [23:23:00] <ezero> that filter has never worked for me mojo5000 i always have to make them explicit
207: [23:23:34] <mojo5000> re: <div class="paragraph"> - what if i don't want a paragraph
208: [23:23:47] <mojo5000> lets say i have a one liner
209: [23:23:57] <mojo5000> that still needs some 'html styling'
210: [23:24:03] <SphereSilverNL> A oneliner in a WYSIWTF?
211: [23:24:08] <mojo5000> heh
212: [23:24:09] <mojo5000> yep
213: [23:24:16] <mojo5000> for headlines
214: [23:24:19] <ezero> make it a text only field :P
215: [23:24:20] <mojo5000> we're fancy
216: [23:24:21] <SphereSilverNL> A oneliner should always be statically styled if you ask me
217: [23:24:36] <SphereSilverNL> Thus, it should be a textfield, not an HTMLField
218: [23:25:08] <ezero> ^^
219: [23:25:17] <SphereSilverNL> So.... You're having 5 headlines, that all look different. That's gonna be impressive!
220: [23:25:38] <mojo5000> think a sentence
221: [23:25:41] <SphereSilverNL> If you want to use some sort of newline styling on a headline, implement a bb-code like [br] tag
222: [23:25:46] <mojo5000> with one word italicized
223: [23:25:59] <mojo5000> how would i do that otherwise? and still have through CMS and localized?
224: [23:26:15] <SphereSilverNL> Textfield + BBCode
225: [23:26:23] <SphereSilverNL> Makes sure you can control the actual output
226: [23:26:38] <mojo5000> not familiar with bb-code
227: [23:27:09] <mojo5000> so someone actually types in "My Headline with [it]Italicized[it] content?"
228: [23:27:09] <SphereSilverNL> You've never used a forum and had to type [url="www.myurl.com]My awesome link[/url]
229: [23:27:11] <SphereSilverNL> ?
230: [23:27:28] <SphereSilverNL> [i]My text italicized[/i]
231: [23:27:41] <SphereSilverNL> It's available in Silverstripe by defaulte.
232: [23:27:51] <mojo5000> and then how does the front end capture that?
233: [23:27:53] <SphereSilverNL> Just enable and call the output with $Headline.WhatevertheBBcodefixeris
234: [23:28:17] <SphereSilverNL> and it's rendered with <i>italicized</i>
235: [23:28:49] <SphereSilverNL> (Sorry, I don't know the BBCode this string method by heart)
236: [23:29:04] <mojo5000> no worries, i'm looking it up
237: [23:29:21] <mojo5000> the difficulty is that i was wanting someone to apply styles to various sections
238: [23:29:23] <SphereSilverNL> It's in the BBCodeParser
239: [23:29:35] <SphereSilverNL> You can easily extend the renderer.
240: [23:29:38] <mojo5000> but we may need to do something like this
241: [23:30:15] <SphereSilverNL> Here's how I implemented code-bb, twitter-bb, etc.
242: [23:30:24] <SphereSilverNL> https://github.com/Firesphere/silverstripe-newsmodule/blob/master/_config.php <-- how to register the custom code
243: [23:30:33] <SphereSilverNL> https://github.com/Firesphere/silverstripe-newsmodule/blob/master/code/extras/ExtraShorctodeParser.php <-- the parsers
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245: [23:31:00] <SphereSilverNL> Since they are registered as BBCodeParsers, the square brackets are automatically taken as the delimiters
246: [23:31:14] <mojo5000> i'll take a look, thanks.
247: [23:31:27] <SphereSilverNL> That way, you have control over your output
248: [23:31:28] <mojo5000> what is tough is we're really trying to dumb down the cms
249: [23:31:42] <mojo5000> and having them enter any kind of 'codes' ends up being a barrier to entry
250: [23:31:43] <SphereSilverNL> This is Dumbing Down Improved
251: [23:32:00] <SphereSilverNL> Just make a "Help" tab, where you explain how the BBCode works, and which are available.
252: [23:32:03] <mojo5000> WYSIWTF
253: [23:32:07] <mojo5000> ack
254: [23:32:26] <mojo5000> 'if you're having to explain it in a help section - it's broken'
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256: [23:32:39] <mojo5000> anyways, thanks, will see what i come up with and share
257: [23:33:08] <SphereSilverNL> mojo5000: That's not entirely true. Ask ANY customer, how they experience word. You'll hear them scream at image-positioning probably.
258: [23:33:12] <SphereSilverNL> For example ;)
259: [23:33:48] <SphereSilverNL> A minor introduction and an overview of the available bb-codes plus a one-sentence explanation of how they work will make the customer feel more comfortable
260: [23:34:13] <SphereSilverNL> And the reason to do it that way, is very simple:
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262: [23:34:33] <SphereSilverNL> blergh, I'll talk to him again next time I guess :P
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264: [23:34:50] <micmania1> I never use BB codes. Its hard enough explaining where to type the URL, nevermine bbcode.
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266: [23:35:21] <SphereSilverNL> micmania1: I never had that problem. A simple help, explaining how to implement the BBCode works for all customers
267: [23:35:35] <SphereSilverNL> and they all understand, that it's better to use, to keep a website look consistent
268: [23:35:44] <origincube> hey guys, how are you? ;)
269: [23:35:47] <micmania1> You must have smarter clients lol
270: [23:36:17] <Colin[pi]> I'm with you micmania1
271: [23:36:20] <SphereSilverNL> Best example: "What if one of your employees decides everything needs to be bold? Yes, BBCode can do that, but in a WYSIWTF, you have NO control over the looks, with BBCode, you have"
272: [23:38:10] <SphereSilverNL> Colin[pi], micmania1 You guys don't have training-days for customers on "how to use the CMS"?
273: [23:38:39] <SphereSilverNL> We still use a WYSIWTF where needed, but things like taglines etc, are all BB'd, makes for way cleaner results.
274: [23:39:02] <micmania1> They get taught when we deliver the site, but they still ring up asking us to change it anyway :/
275: [23:39:04] <Colin[pi]> SphereSilverNL: I do, yes, but some of them have trouble with that let alone BBCode
276: [23:39:12] <origincube> gosh, what is this debate all about? ;)
277: [23:39:22] <Ryan-Toast> SphereSilverNL: make videos, sell support subscription gg
278: [23:39:25] <SphereSilverNL> Colin[pi]: Some people should not be let near computers anyway.
279: [23:39:32] * mojo5000 quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
280: [23:39:55] <SphereSilverNL> We sell SLA's for our websites, yes. So if they screw up, we can still send them a bill. Since that's not in the SLA :P
281: [23:40:02] <SphereSilverNL> (nah, not really)
282: [23:41:28] <Colin[pi]> SphereSilverNL: I had one client this year, who was a DREAM... smooth process with everything, took the helm of the CMS, built everything themselves
283: [23:41:31] <Colin[pi]> understood tech
284: [23:41:37] <Colin[pi]> understood the CMS
285: [23:41:45] <Colin[pi]> but it's so in the minority :(
286: [23:42:22] <origincube> sorry to interject guys, but i was wondering if any of you guys had experience issues where pinterest wasn't playing nice with the SS Blog module?
287: [23:42:56] <micmania1> How do you mean not playing nice?
288: [23:43:12] <SphereSilverNL> I don't like the blog module :|
289: [23:43:47] <origincube> well, my client is attempting to pin blog posts to their pinterest boards
290: [23:43:57] <origincube> and each blog item has an image associated with it
291: [23:44:02] <origincube> so thats what they're aiming to pin
292: [23:44:12] <SphereSilverNL> OpenGraph?
293: [23:44:22] <origincube> but for some reason when we attempt to pin the image, it gives and error. Pinterest says that its timing out on the server
294: [23:44:59] <origincube> but they find the image to begin with, and it allows us to pin other images from the site, so is rather perplexing.
295: [23:45:11] <origincube> just wondered if you knew of any other instance of something like this happening
296: [23:45:30] <SphereSilverNL> Are the images in a separate directory?
297: [23:45:43] <SphereSilverNL> If so, are the images allowed to be read by nginx/apache?
298: [23:45:46] <origincube> they're in the uploads folder
299: [23:45:50] <micmania1> I don't really use either so wouldn't be much help. It might be worth checking the error log though
300: [23:46:04] <origincube> we checked the apache error logs
301: [23:46:11] <origincube> the logs indicate the initial page scan
302: [23:46:18] <SphereSilverNL> An error 500 on images usually means "file not found" errors
303: [23:46:20] <origincube> and then nothing from pinterest when they say it is timing out
304: [23:46:36] <origincube> the images are there, and they are viewable publicly
305: [23:48:30] <SphereSilverNL> Are you using a CDN?
306: [23:48:44] <origincube> for the images? no
307: [23:48:48] <origincube> they're uploaded through the CMS
308: [23:49:03] * DigNZ quit (Quit: DigNZ)
309: [23:49:22] <origincube> this is a link to the latest blog post
310: [23:49:22] <origincube> http://www.windowart.co.za/blog/can-glass-graphics-replace-blinds/
311: [23:50:01] <SphereSilverNL> Before you go any further, could you please combine your CSS?
312: [23:50:46] <SphereSilverNL> Also, use <%-- my comment --%> as comment method, won't place comments in the live-results
313: [23:51:15] <SphereSilverNL> But more on your actual issue, implement the OpenGraph methods.
314: [23:51:39] <origincube> it was a supplied template from the client, so none of the comments or css was manipulated by us
315: [23:51:51] <SphereSilverNL> You can still minimize ;)
316: [23:52:51] <origincube> yeah, true
317: [23:52:54] <origincube> let me do that quickly
318: [23:53:16] * origincube quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
319: [23:53:38] <SphereSilverNL> Not that it's a real requirement, but the website actually flickered and text jumped all over the place, waiting for the next part of the CSS to be fully loaded ;)
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322: [23:55:11] <SphereSilverNL> The images are loading really, seriously slow, maybe it's just me, being not from the neighbourhood, but could that be part of the problem?
323: [23:55:45] <origincube> i thought it might be the size of the image
324: [23:56:06] <origincube> but i replaced one with a super optimised and compressed version and it didn't make any difference to pinterest
325: [23:56:13] <origincube> it times out in under 10 seconds
326: [23:56:17] <origincube> but only on the blog entries
327: [23:56:39] * Jakx quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
328: [23:56:50] <origincube> let me put up the minified css
329: [23:56:53] <SphereSilverNL> I'm not familiar with the blog module or it's inner workings
330: [23:57:12] <origincube> the inner workings shouldn't be affecting this if you ask me
331: [23:57:22] <origincube> since its just a page type displaying html to the external world
332: [23:57:25] <SphereSilverNL> origincube: No offence (again ;) ), but you don't have a deployment-system? ;)
333: [23:57:48] <origincube> nope
334: [23:58:00] <SphereSilverNL> Problem is, appearantly, somewhere, it does interfere with the inner workings, that's why I'm suggesting OG-tagging
335: [23:58:23] <origincube> but the site sees and loads a preview of the images before pinning
336: [23:58:26] <origincube> so it is seeing it correctly
337: [23:58:38] <origincube> it just dies when trying to pin it
338: [23:59:15] <SphereSilverNL> And the logs give nothing but error. That's just weird. Are you sure it's not a timeout?
339: [23:59:35] <origincube> the logs don't show any errors relating to pinterest access
340: [23:59:39] <origincube> thats what completely weird
341: [23:59:44] <origincube> i think its an issue on their end tbh

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