#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 16 December 2013

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1: [00:05:01] * Pyromanik has joined #silverstripe
2: [00:05:15] <Pyromanik> Nary a word about poor upkeep :D
3: [00:05:21] <Pyromanik> got out free
4: [00:05:26] <Pyromanik> got out clean*
5: [00:05:29] <Pyromanik> OH THE PUN
6: [00:09:11] <antmas> Pyromanik: you lucky so'bitch
7: [00:10:32] <Jayden90> simon_w: any thoughts on the gist?
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10: [00:15:42] <zippy__> spronk: nope, why
11: [00:16:03] * spronk couldn't believe how *bad* the singers were
12: [00:16:32] <Pyromanik> hmm?
13: [00:16:49] <spronk> xmas in the park on tv3 last night
14: [00:17:04] <antmas> has anyone downloaded SteamOS yet?
15: [00:17:25] <Pyromanik> it's out?
16: [00:17:33] <antmas> I'm sure it was supposed to be out on the 13th
17: [00:17:33] <spronk> ya
18: [00:17:34] <Snowman23> It's just Debian
19: [00:17:35] <Snowman23> Literally.
20: [00:17:38] <spronk> its kinda dodgy
21: [00:17:39] <Pyromanik> spronk, christmas in the park is always rubbish
22: [00:17:52] <antmas> Snowman23: I can't find the link for it :(
23: [00:18:01] <Pyromanik> Snowman23, wasn't expecting much else. At least it's not ubuntu, as it was looking to begin with
24: [00:18:24] <antmas> so it's Debian with a theme plus Steam?
25: [00:18:59] <Snowman23> http://repo.steampowered.com/download/
26: [00:19:22] <zippy__> antmas: plus patches plus some other things
27: [00:19:24] <Snowman23> There's a few guides on different ways to instsall it around
28: [00:19:45] * antmas_ has joined #silverstripe
29: [00:19:59] <zippy__> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamuniverse/discussions/1/648814395741989999/
30: [00:20:04] <Pyromanik> urgh it totally is .deb based :<
31: [00:21:22] <Pyromanik> ooh they made their own compositor
32: [00:21:32] <Pyromanik> I wonder if it's x.org or wayland based?
33: [00:22:25] <antmas_> wouldn't mind just using this for my HTPC setup
34: [00:22:37] <zippy__> X.Org server 1.12.4
35: [00:23:25] * antmas quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
36: [00:23:33] <Pyromanik> should have been pac based :<
37: [00:24:04] * antmas_ is now known as antmas
38: [00:24:29] <antmas> I actually quite like Big Picture mode with steam
39: [00:24:40] <antmas> not that bad with 360 controler
40: [00:24:44] <antmas> controller*
41: [00:25:11] <spronk> .deb is good man
42: [00:27:21] <antmas> isn't Debian just a little bit faster for low resource enviros? plus maybe Synaptic (or whatever)?
43: [00:29:11] <Snowman23> antmas: Faster than what?
44: [00:29:27] <antmas> Snowman23: Ubuntu
45: [00:29:48] <Snowman23> Dunno
46: [00:29:51] <Snowman23> They're a little different
47: [00:30:05] * antmas has never used Linux outside of web dev
48: [00:30:31] <spronk> it's shit
49: [00:30:31] <spronk> :p
50: [00:30:39] <spronk> actually you probably have
51: [00:30:45] <spronk> linux is fucking everywhere these days
52: [00:30:52] <antmas> oh no doubt
53: [00:31:07] <antmas> but I've never gone 'I'm going to play around in Linux today' kinda thing
54: [00:31:36] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: UncleCheese)
55: [00:31:43] <antmas> anyway, lunch
56: [00:39:16] <Pyromanik> antmas, synaptic is ubuntu.
57: [00:39:24] <Pyromanik> deb is rubbish :<
58: [00:39:37] * joelpitt_ has joined #silverstripe
59: [00:40:04] <Pyromanik> well, not rubbish. But is basically just another RPM.
60: [00:40:47] <Pyromanik> which people LOOOOVE to rag on for some reason
61: [00:41:19] <ezero> Synaptics is not really a package manager for ubuntu its just a gui front-end for aptitude aka apt
62: [00:41:27] <ezero> and comes from debian
63: [00:41:31] * joelpittet quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
64: [00:42:57] <Pyromanik> I know it's an apt frontend, just thought it was dev'd by ubuntu.
65: [00:43:12] <Pyromanik> and aptitude is not aka apt.
66: [00:43:40] <Pyromanik> they're quite different.
67: [00:43:40] <ezero> apt does essential what aptitude would
68: [00:43:56] <Pyromanik> so do a whole raft of front ends for deb installs.
69: [00:44:13] <ezero> debs are installed using dpkg not managed..
70: [00:44:21] <Pyromanik> exactly
71: [00:44:22] <ezero> aptitude also works out dependencies for you
72: [00:44:33] <Pyromanik> so does apt, synaptic, etc.
73: [00:44:35] <ezero> but so can apt-get
74: [00:47:36] <Pyromanik> heh. I remember when ubuntu was new on the scene and gaining popularity they made this huge thing about synaptic being the ubuntu package manager, when really it was just a package manager chosen by ubuntu.
75: [00:47:58] <Pyromanik> linux nubbies would be all "go to synaptic..."
76: [00:47:59] <Pyromanik> hhehe
77: [00:48:27] <Pyromanik> real men ./configure && make && sudo make install !! xD
78: [00:48:54] <antmas> lol
79: [00:48:57] <Pyromanik> and/or Pacman S package
80: [00:49:04] <antmas> holy crap
81: [00:49:10] <Pyromanik> ?
82: [00:49:16] * UncleCheese has joined #silverstripe
83: [00:49:23] <antmas> our part time help desk guy broke his back in a mountain bike crash
84: [00:49:25] <antmas> :<
85: [00:49:29] <Pyromanik> D:
86: [00:49:57] <Pyromanik> dat upside down riding man, it's no good I tells ya!
87: [00:50:09] <antmas> apparently he was 'going too slow'
88: [00:50:10] <antmas> lol
89: [00:50:27] <Pyromanik> well... if he was up on a massive berm then it could have fallen down it.
90: [00:50:40] <antmas> Pyromanik: I think it was actually
91: [00:50:44] <Pyromanik> but... if it was someone behind him, they should just have not crashed into him.
92: [00:50:45] <antmas> some big race meet in Dunnes
93: [00:50:49] <antmas> Dunners*
94: [00:50:51] <Pyromanik> ah
95: [00:51:09] <Pyromanik> does crash mean collision between 2 riders, or that he just fell off?
96: [00:51:14] <antmas> fell off
97: [00:51:17] <Pyromanik> ah
98: [00:51:28] <antmas> as far as I've heard though
99: [00:51:57] <Pyromanik> must have been some kind of speed requirement like a twin sided jump or a bermed section or something...
100: [00:52:07] <antmas> Pyromanik: I reckon so
101: [00:52:28] <antmas> he's only been on 1 ride since buying full armour
102: [00:52:35] <Pyromanik> :<
103: [00:52:38] <antmas> and said his confidence was too high
104: [00:53:01] <antmas> anyway,
105: [00:53:07] <antmas> now I have support work to do :<
106: [00:53:20] <Pyromanik> guts.
107: [00:53:38] <Pyromanik> I better ring snap and disconnect my interwebs.
108: [00:54:04] <Pyromanik> since irogue told me many ISP's don't give a shit about user/pass they just auth by dslam port :<
109: [00:54:15] <Pyromanik> pretty sure snap still care, but yeh.
110: [00:54:29] <Pyromanik> need to do it before tomorrow anyways!
111: [00:54:46] <Snowman23> They still check deteails afaik, but charge the person who's assigned for the dslam port
112: [00:54:49] <Snowman23> maybe not
113: [00:54:51] <Snowman23> ANYWAY LUNCH TIME
114: [00:54:53] <Snowman23> afaik
115: [00:54:56] <Snowman23> idk
116: [00:54:58] * Snowman23 skips off
117: [00:55:11] <antmas> Vodafone doesn't
118: [00:55:28] <antmas> I mean
119: [00:55:33] <antmas> they DO care about it
120: [00:55:41] <Pyromanik> no, they don't.
121: [00:56:04] <Pyromanik> same like xtra I hear
122: [00:56:18] <antmas> Pyromanik: pretty sure they do, I was helping them connect/disconnect multiple accounts at my old contract
123: [00:56:23] <Pyromanik> and looked at mum's config the other day. user@xtrabb.co.nz - lolwut
124: [00:56:28] <antmas> maybe just a one off
125: [00:56:58] <Pyromanik> irogue said password was likely abc123
126: [00:57:03] <Pyromanik> he was probably right :<
127: [00:57:19] <antmas> Pyromanik: for the router?
128: [00:57:20] <Pyromanik> either way, I got seriously wtf'd about it.
129: [00:57:24] <antmas> or the account?
130: [00:57:33] <Pyromanik> antmas, DSL setup in router, yeh.
131: [00:57:37] <antmas> ah
132: [00:57:50] <Pyromanik> I didn't need a password to access the router at all, just typed in the address and suddenly admin access.
133: [00:58:02] <Pyromanik> (telecom freebie router)
134: [00:58:12] <antmas> usually it's at least admin/admin
135: [00:58:16] <Pyromanik> nup
136: [00:58:20] <antmas> wow
137: [00:58:21] <Pyromanik> I was told it
138: [00:58:46] <Pyromanik> it's so that these freebie routers can be shipped for joe derp general old person and just plug in and go.
139: [00:59:01] <antmas> I did that the other night when the neighbours wouldn't stop playing Spotify radio super loud late at night
140: [00:59:09] <Pyromanik> ROFL
141: [00:59:12] <antmas> login, change details, logout
142: [00:59:15] <antmas> boom no internet
143: [00:59:16] <Pyromanik> hahahhahaha
144: [00:59:53] <Pyromanik> dfuck you noise control, antmas is on the case!
145: [01:00:00] <Pyromanik> xD
146: [01:00:03] <antmas> :D
147: [01:00:15] <antmas> I've done that loads because no one sets router passwords
148: [01:00:25] <Pyromanik> yeh
149: [01:01:16] <antmas> lots of people actually still have WEP passkeys around my area
150: [01:01:54] <Pyromanik> haha
151: [01:02:08] <antmas> bruteforce in like 6 secs
152: [01:02:09] <antmas> :P
153: [01:02:11] <Pyromanik> also
154: [01:02:35] <Pyromanik> freebie routers (from telecom at least) have wifi password on bottom on un removable product info sticker.
155: [01:03:19] <antmas> Pyromanik: yeah they do
156: [01:03:25] <antmas> Thomson?
157: [01:03:27] <antmas> or whatever
158: [01:03:28] <Pyromanik> the whole thing is just wow.
159: [01:03:29] <Pyromanik> yeh
160: [01:04:01] <Pyromanik> alcatel apparently. irogue said they keep renaming every few years and hope that people don't notice & forget that they're utter shit.
161: [01:04:19] <Pyromanik> oh, and the interface only works in firefox.
162: [01:04:22] <Pyromanik> HILARIOUS
163: [01:04:38] <antmas> jebus
164: [01:04:55] <Pyromanik> well, it doesn't display properly in opera, but still worked fine.
165: [01:05:03] <Pyromanik> just hard to read.
166: [01:05:04] <antmas> do dictionary bots actually work with WPA PSK keys?
167: [01:05:20] <Pyromanik> nfi, ask Snowman23
168: [01:05:35] <antmas> Snowman23: TELL ME ALL THE THINGS PLX
169: [01:05:44] <Pyromanik> PLOX UR BRAINZ
170: [01:08:43] <Snowman23> uh
171: [01:08:56] <Snowman23> You can do both dictionary and rainbow table attacks on WPA PSK
172: [01:09:17] <Snowman23> Rainbow tables are salted with the SSID though, so not always pratical
173: [01:09:25] <Pyromanik> playing snap! roulette again
174: [01:09:30] <antmas> Snowman23: hah, nice
175: [01:09:36] <Pyromanik> will phone go flat before I get to talk to someone?
176: [01:09:37] <antmas> never knew rainbow worked either
177: [01:10:20] <Pyromanik> rainbow table for the pot of gold at the end.
178: [01:10:22] <Snowman23> lol Pyromanik
179: [01:10:34] <Pyromanik> ?
180: [01:11:02] <Pyromanik> snap roulette or pot of gold comment?
181: [01:11:49] <Pyromanik> battety now under 50%
182: [01:11:54] <Pyromanik> xD
183: [01:13:29] * camfindlay quit (Quit: camfindlay)
184: [01:15:43] <unsignedint> hey does anyone know if theres a way to override previously declared $db fields? eg SiteTree defines a HTMLText 'Content' field but I want to change this to 'Markdown'. Re-declaring it on Page breaks the sql queries because the field exists on SiteTree and not Page
185: [01:21:49] <Pyromanik> turns out snap need 30 days notice to close an account
186: [01:21:54] <Pyromanik> D:
187: [01:22:39] <Pyromanik> unsignedint, it shouldn't br... oh you're doing a $db = ...
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189: [01:23:07] <unsignedint> sorry, yes, trying to override the field type in private static $db = ...
190: [01:23:30] <unsignedint> ive got a workaround, just create a getContent() method that wraps the original in a Markdown field type and returns it
191: [01:26:40] <Pyromanik> unsignedint, I believe that this is what updateStatics or table options or something or other is for.
192: [01:27:14] <Pyromanik> also, just made it Snowman23, antmas - phone is in the orage "You should think about charging me" stage when I hung up
193: [01:27:28] * Kapdap quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
194: [01:27:33] <antmas> Pyromanik: jesus
195: [01:27:37] <antmas> what phone is that?
196: [01:27:59] <Pyromanik> Gotta pay for Janurary's interwebs even though I'm not going to be using it because I was unaware of this 30 days notice nonsense :(
197: [01:28:10] <Pyromanik> at least it's only $70
198: [01:28:17] <Pyromanik> antmas, an old one!
199: [01:28:26] <Pyromanik> you know how batteries are :P
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201: [01:28:48] <Pyromanik> used to last over a week and a half with minimal usage, not needs charging every day or two.
202: [01:29:19] <unsignedint> ^ is that nokia 2280 vs smartphone?
203: [01:30:24] <Pyromanik> hmm?
204: [01:30:45] <Pyromanik> unsignedint, wha?
205: [01:31:39] <unsignedint> nokia 2280, one of the most popular phones in its day. had a reputation for being impossible to break and its battery lasting over a week
206: [01:32:10] <unsignedint> I dropped mine in the toilet when I was drunk and it still went fine straight afterwards, didnt even need to dry it
207: [01:33:01] <Snowman23> yeah
208: [01:33:05] <Snowman23> That's the generic knowia I recognize!
209: [01:33:12] <Snowman23> I have a nokia 301 now, 39 days standby battery life
210: [01:34:24] <antmas> never owned a Nokia
211: [01:34:26] <Pyromanik> unsignedint, nah.
212: [01:34:40] <Pyromanik> although back in the day all phones would usually last over a week.
213: [01:34:44] <unsignedint> exactly
214: [01:34:54] <antmas> was always Sony Ericsson or Sharp
215: [01:34:59] <Pyromanik> I had nokia 3220, was pretty magic.
216: [01:35:14] <Pyromanik> in the end it was (is!) the speaker that gave out.
217: [01:35:37] <Pyromanik> I think I might be able to hear people talk, but can't hear it ring or alarm, etc.
218: [01:35:45] <antmas> we forced a nokia 2280 to get stuck on constant vibrate and it lasted 26 hours
219: [01:35:49] <Pyromanik> but current phone is HTC Magic.
220: [01:35:51] <antmas> at highschool*
221: [01:36:10] <Pyromanik> of course antmas :P
222: [01:36:28] <unsignedint> 14:36 antmas: we forced a nokia 2280 to get stuck on constant vibrate and it lasted 26 hours <-- hahahaha way too much free time
223: [01:36:31] <antmas> many a dildo jokes in those days
224: [01:36:46] <unsignedint> yeah we used to text bomb each other to make the phone vibrate constantly
225: [01:36:55] <antmas> hahaha
226: [01:36:57] <antmas> yeah did that
227: [01:37:50] <unsignedint> it was a pain though, when you hit the message limit it didnt delete older messages and just dropped any new messages so you had no idea who texted you and whether or not it was important
228: [01:38:07] <Pyromanik> just found first phone.
229: [01:38:14] <Pyromanik> Motorolla talkabout T2288
230: [01:38:15] <unsignedint> pictures.
231: [01:38:18] <Pyromanik> fantastic.
232: [01:38:32] <antmas> I had this mother fucker http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w950-1443.php
233: [01:38:39] <Pyromanik> then when batteries wouldn't stay charged on it I bought a mate's nokia 3310
234: [01:38:39] <antmas> not first phone though
235: [01:38:52] <Pyromanik> then when that died a short time after got a 3220
236: [01:38:56] <Pyromanik> then HTC Magic.
237: [01:39:08] <Pyromanik> STILL HAVE SAME NUMBER ON BOTTOM OF BOX OF MOTOROLLA PHONE.
238: [01:39:33] <Pyromanik> all my mates seem to go through a new phone number about once every 2 - 3 years.
239: [01:39:40] <Pyromanik> I have had mine for 12.
240: [01:40:13] <Pyromanik> I know because I was 17 when I got the number, it's one of the things I used to help remember it.
241: [01:40:25] <antmas> yeah I've had the same 021 number for 7
242: [01:41:08] <antmas> changing it is such a massive pain
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244: [01:44:32] <antmas> good god that Sony Ericsson I used to have was a 'Walkman' phone and didn't have a 3.5mm jack
245: [01:44:40] <antmas> what a piece of shit that was
246: [01:45:01] <Pyromanik> back in the day when everyone had the nokia of the time 5110? and all the girls had the alcatel one touch easy/eb
247: [01:45:04] <Pyromanik> db*
248: [01:46:26] <antmas> back when txts where 20c no matter what
249: [01:46:41] * Ryan-Toast quit (Quit: Ryan-Toast)
250: [01:47:15] <Pyromanik> then mate got 3310, and wholey fuck FLAAAASH
251: [01:47:38] <Pyromanik> antmas, they still are aren't they? because NZ telecompanies and shit
252: [01:47:41] <obbo> hello, is there a way to change what the tab name says for a managed model in ModelAdmin?
253: [01:48:01] <Pyromanik> obbo, not easily.
254: [01:48:23] <Pyromanik> although you can set the singular name and plural name on the object and it might do the trick easily
255: [01:48:24] <antmas> antmas: yeah, but most people have packs/plans which equates to much cheaper txts
256: [01:48:31] <antmas> I meant, that it was mandatory
257: [01:48:34] <Pyromanik> but it will show up in other areas too that you might not wwant.
258: [01:48:54] <Pyromanik> obbo, private static $singular_name = 'new tab name';
259: [01:49:00] <Pyromanik> hopefully will see you right
260: [01:50:41] <antmas> awesome
261: [01:50:48] <antmas> forecast for xmas weather is rain
262: [01:50:52] <antmas> for 90% of country
263: [01:51:35] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: UncleCheese)
264: [01:59:09] * Pyromanik feels like a filthy criminal ringing the MoJ to ask about himself.
265: [01:59:41] <Pyromanik> antmas, fuck off it is, that's 10 days away. Bullshit they can predict jack crap at that interval.
266: [02:00:04] <antmas> Pyromanik: yeah that's why I said it
267: [02:00:14] <Pyromanik> also, even if it does... that's just a typical NZ christmas it is.
268: [02:00:28] <Pyromanik> antmas, oic, 'awesome' wasn't sarcastic :P
269: [02:00:43] <Pyromanik> awesome as in "it's probably going to be hot and sunny"
270: [02:01:20] <antmas> Pyromanik: nah, more like 'awesome, our weather reports are basically still completely exaggerated'
271: [02:01:36] <Pyromanik> Yeh it'll probably rain somewhere
272: [02:01:48] <Pyromanik> but I highly doubt it'll pour down all day for most of the country.
273: [02:02:02] <Pyromanik> then again, them thunder storms...
274: [02:02:16] <Pyromanik> although to be fair they gave the warning AFTER they started.
275: [02:02:28] <Pyromanik> well, on the news at least.
276: [02:03:32] <Pyromanik> hahahahahah there's a symphony of sneezes going on next door
277: [02:03:42] * obbo quit (Quit: Page closed)
278: [02:06:56] <Pyromanik> lol FUCK whoops, forgot to cancel my rent payment.
279: [02:11:42] <Pyromanik> so why's everyone so quiet in here? Is it because of that Christmas thing?
280: [02:12:54] <Snowman23> Um
281: [02:13:00] <Snowman23> yeah, fucking busy tbh
282: [02:13:01] <Snowman23> :(
283: [02:18:09] <Pyromanik> Snowman23, lemme guess - everyone wants everything by christmas, just in case someone wants to look up when xyz client will be closed and can't do the shit they wanted to in the first place because christmas.
284: [02:18:22] <Snowman23> lol
285: [02:18:26] <Snowman23> Kind of like that, yeah :P
286: [02:21:43] <spronk> not realising that noone goes on the internet over xmas to buy things
287: [02:21:57] <spronk> with the exception of boxing day sales
288: [02:25:08] <Snowman23> We don't really rock any ecommerce sites, I think
289: [02:25:17] <Snowman23> Not a concerntration on ecom anyway
290: [02:25:40] <simon_w> No, those tend to go with systems that can actually handle ecom :p
291: [02:25:55] <spronk> hahahah ;D
292: [02:26:10] <simon_w> Mmm, free lunch was good
293: [02:27:06] <Pyromanik> lulz
294: [02:27:14] <simon_w> $breadcrumbnav = <ol class="breadcrumb" dir={$path[0]} />;
295: [02:27:16] <Pyromanik> dat ss + ecom :<
296: [02:27:19] <simon_w> No Mark, just no
297: [02:27:21] <spronk> we are so close to having burgerfuel in chch it's not even funny
298: [02:27:35] <Pyromanik> spronk, don't care any more.
299: [02:27:41] <simon_w> spronk, I'm having it next Thursday!
300: [02:27:52] <Pyromanik> Thinking there's one in london by the time CHC opens anyway
301: [02:27:55] <spronk> sif
302: [02:27:59] <Pyromanik> simon_w, in CHC?
303: [02:28:01] <spronk> pretty sure they're trying to get it open by xmas
304: [02:28:06] <simon_w> Pfft, why would I go there?
305: [02:28:16] <Pyromanik> spronk, so they can be closed on christmas day! YAAAY LOGIC
306: [02:28:38] <Pyromanik> although
307: [02:28:39] <simon_w> Pyromanik, Food place. They can open on Christmas.
308: [02:28:54] <simon_w> Tend to not have a surcharge now too
309: [02:28:55] <Pyromanik> Being in AKL I could give that burger fuel stuff a go probably... if I can find one.
310: [02:28:55] <Zauberfi1ch23> good morning
311: [02:29:02] <spronk> dooo et
312: [02:29:07] <spronk> there are heaps of them
313: [02:29:12] <Pyromanik> simon_w, nah, resturants and stuff still gotta be closed don't they?
314: [02:29:20] <Pyromanik> spronk, needs to be one close.
315: [02:29:26] <Pyromanik> Might go for lunch before departing :P
316: [02:29:34] <spronk> whereabouts are you?
317: [02:29:39] <Pyromanik> spronk, nfi.
318: [02:29:42] <spronk> ...lol
319: [02:29:49] <Pyromanik> Mum's house!
320: [02:29:49] <spronk> how don't you know!?
321: [02:29:50] <Pyromanik> xD
322: [02:29:52] <spronk> suburb?
323: [02:30:11] <Pyromanik> ... but then you'll know where my mum lives! :O
324: [02:30:51] <spronk> auckland is a big place
325: [02:31:01] <Pyromanik> google maps isn't.
326: [02:31:04] <spronk> haha
327: [02:31:05] <spronk> ok
328: [02:31:07] <spronk> what side of auckland?
329: [02:31:20] <spronk> north shore? close to cbd? southern auck?
330: [02:31:31] <Pyromanik> taht side that's closest to not auckland.
331: [02:31:37] <Pyromanik> or something
332: [02:31:39] <Pyromanik> I dunno man
333: [02:31:41] <Pyromanik> Mum moved.
334: [02:31:52] <spronk> http://www.burgerfuel.com/nz/stores
335: [02:31:53] <spronk> JUST GO THERE
336: [02:31:58] <Pyromanik> I AM, GOSH
337: [02:31:59] <Pyromanik> xD
338: [02:32:28] <Pyromanik> WHOLEY FUCKING SHIT
339: [02:32:43] <spronk> ?
340: [02:32:52] <Pyromanik> that moment when you accidentally click 'tab groups' in firefox, suddenly 100 other tabs from 2 years ago in 6 other groups...
341: [02:33:01] <Pyromanik> :O
342: [02:35:09] <Pyromanik> hmm, none too close I think. They have these suburb names and I don't know which is closest, lol.
343: [02:35:12] <Pyromanik> stupid auckland.
344: [02:35:31] <spronk> use the map brau
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346: [02:37:11] <Pyromanik> lol
347: [02:37:20] <Pyromanik> small widescreen monitor, forgot about the map :<
348: [02:37:42] <simon_w> Overheating. Send ice-cream.
349: [02:37:49] * simon_w looks at Snowman23
350: [02:39:15] <Pyromanik> fuck yes
351: [02:39:16] <Pyromanik> so hot
352: [02:39:35] <Pyromanik> so glad I only have 23 hours left of this nonsense
353: [02:39:42] <Pyromanik> although... going through dubai :<
354: [02:40:16] <simon_w> I think they have Burger Fuel
355: [02:40:56] <simon_w> Burger Fuel sells ice-cream
356: [02:42:55] <Pyromanik> They do, but I can't stop there, it's bat country!
357: [02:44:27] * Snowman23 looks at simon_w
358: [02:44:33] <Snowman23> simon_w: Well I wanted to go get lunch, *but*...
359: [02:44:46] <simon_w> You don't work for PocketRent?
360: [02:45:13] <simon_w> Though not working for SilverStripe doesn't stop me from crashing your Christmas thing...
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362: [02:46:19] <Snowman23> Jokes on you, Christmas thing is over!
363: [02:50:04] <simon_w> Friday.
364: [02:53:31] <antmas> Snowman23: I thought you already had an xmas thing?
365: [02:54:11] <Snowman23> We did
366: [02:54:19] <Snowman23> The Christmas thing was the Friday just been
367: [02:54:31] <Snowman23> We have cake and stuff floating around the ofifce, but our main party is over
368: [02:55:04] <antmas> Snowman23: thought so, there were some photos and such via FB
369: [02:56:14] <antmas> Pyromanik: wait
370: [02:56:21] <antmas> wouldn't it be winter in Dubai?
371: [02:57:14] <antmas> so it won't be much hotter than here
372: [02:58:41] <simon_w> Still overheating. Still no ice-cream.
373: [02:59:30] <Jayden90> simon_w: Any thoughts on my gist from earlier today?
374: [02:59:51] <antmas> my right leg got annihilated by sandflies yesterday :<
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376: [03:05:50] <simon_w> Screw it, I'm going home
377: [03:06:02] <simon_w> Jayden90, yeah, don't like me stuff when I'm going out for lunch :p
378: [03:06:33] <Jayden90> Is github issues the right place for feature requests
379: [03:10:31] <Snowman23> Jayden90: We don't accept any kind of feature requests anymore
380: [03:10:38] <Snowman23> Personally I think it was a really really stupid stance to take
381: [03:11:02] <Ryan-Toast> Snowman23: Just because of too many requests?
382: [03:11:04] <Jayden90> Snowman23: Stupid to take them or not to?
383: [03:12:10] <Snowman23> Jayden90: stupid *not* to
384: [03:12:14] <Snowman23> Ryan-Toast: i'm not sure why
385: [03:12:28] <Snowman23> I think it was part of the "github issues is crap, the only way we can use them is by not allowing feature requests"
386: [03:13:35] <Ryan-Toast> Snowman23: Two things that I'd love: Easier drag and drop sitemap tree editor, the current one is painful when you have lots of pages. That and content blocks by default i.e before_contet, after_content; sidebar etc.
387: [03:13:57] <Jayden90> Jayden90: So this chanel is basically the only place to float ideas/improvments. Problem is if you go to the trouble to make Gists, write an explanation etc. only the people logged in at the time see it before it fades into the oblivion of chat history.
388: [03:15:04] <Jayden90> I am not going to write hundreds of lines of code on an idea and put in a pull request without propper discussion
389: [03:15:36] <Snowman23> Jayden90: Oh uh
390: [03:15:46] <Snowman23> Jayden90: If you're willing to be the one to "own" it, it's allowed!
391: [03:16:09] <Ryan-Toast> Jayden90: I suppose that's why there's so many modules.
392: [03:16:17] <Snowman23> Jayden90: My suggestion , if you're going to write the code, is to post on the dev mailing list, then make a PR (chances are no one will respond on the dev mailing list, so having a PR helps get discussion moving) then people can discuss it in the PR itself
393: [03:16:37] <Snowman23> The rule is like, you can have "feature requests" as long as you're going to own it and not let it get all behind etc afaik :)
394: [03:17:27] <Ryan-Toast> Snowman23: How do you guys currently handle future ideas for SS?
395: [03:17:53] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, dev mailing list
396: [03:18:01] <Pyromanik> (ss dev google group)
397: [03:18:06] <Pyromanik> google it, you will find
398: [03:18:24] <Ryan-Toast> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/silverstripe-dev ?
399: [03:18:28] <Pyromanik> yep
400: [03:19:27] <Ryan-Toast> So I can suggest stuff there?
401: [03:19:37] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: no
402: [03:19:41] <Pyromanik> It's a discussion board.
403: [03:19:43] <Pyromanik> so yes
404: [03:19:46] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: you're not foreign enough
405: [03:19:52] <antmas> :P
406: [03:20:09] <Pyromanik> you can discuss things, but actual implementation generally falls back on you Ryan-Toast
407: [03:20:51] <Ryan-Toast> So I could in theory bring upa an issue with the menu manager, fork SS build an alternative then do a pull request?
408: [03:22:07] <Pyromanik> no
409: [03:22:15] <Pyromanik> menu manager has nothing at all to do with silverstripe.
410: [03:22:28] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Well sitetree editor.
411: [03:22:50] <Ryan-Toast> 2.4 was actually easier to move around pages than 3.x
412: [03:22:56] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, well if you think it's a fault/bug, then probably just issues it
413: [03:23:01] <Pyromanik> lies!
414: [03:23:07] <Ryan-Toast> Truth!
415: [03:23:18] * antmas nods head
416: [03:23:19] <Pyromanik> cake :<
417: [03:23:44] <antmas> :O
418: [03:23:53] <antmas> 4 days and then booze and whitebait
419: [03:23:55] <antmas> :D
420: [03:24:18] <Snowman23> You just sticking around Tasman, antmas?
421: [03:24:21] <Pyromanik> I'm so excited I hope I can shimmy up some facebook in dubai so I can use this line. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Ee3qQEFPE&t=7m33s
422: [03:24:31] <Ryan-Toast> that and add a button in the header to open the front-end of the site in a new tab.
423: [03:24:35] <Pyromanik> Snowman23,sounds like west coast.
424: [03:24:44] <Pyromanik> don't think there's much whitebait in tasman.
425: [03:25:13] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, that sounds like a silly idea.
426: [03:25:20] <Pyromanik> I'd add it to the preview options.
427: [03:25:21] <antmas> Snowman23: Pyromanik yeh, West Coast
428: [03:25:34] <antmas> Snowman23: will be back up just after New YEars
429: [03:25:40] <Snowman23> ah kk
430: [03:25:40] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: I'd make the siteTitle that sits beside the SS logo link to the front-end
431: [03:25:55] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, ah yeh. could do both I guess.
432: [03:26:07] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Just a nice little UX thing.
433: [03:26:27] <Ryan-Toast> I always have to copy paste the url in to see the front end, which is annoying.
434: [03:26:28] <Pyromanik> yeh, it has annoyed me that the new preview options have no 'middle click this for new tab win' option.
435: [03:26:45] <Pyromanik> Ryan-Toast, protip: middle click refresh (in a decent browser)
436: [03:26:55] <Ryan-Toast> Macs.
437: [03:27:00] <Pyromanik> LAWL
438: [03:27:10] <Ryan-Toast> Well at home it's fine, but macs at work ><
439: [03:27:12] <Pyromanik> well then, right click duplicate tab, in some browsers.
440: [03:27:50] <Pyromanik> I almost always have minimum 3 tabs open when deving a site.
441: [03:27:55] <Pyromanik> build, admin, front.
442: [03:28:00] <Pyromanik> in that order :P
443: [03:28:09] <Ryan-Toast> Pyromanik: Lol, I do the same
444: [03:28:36] <Pyromanik> anyway, time to go pick folks up from work.
445: [03:28:44] <Ryan-Toast> Bye.
446: [03:28:49] <Pyromanik> enjoy new years :)
447: [03:28:54] <Ryan-Toast> You too :)
448: [03:32:39] <antmas> anyone going overseas for xmas/new year?
449: [03:32:43] <antmas> besides simon_w
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452: [03:36:30] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: yeah
453: [03:36:45] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: where?
454: [03:37:07] <Ryan-Toast> Just to Australia to see my sister, and my Niece for a bit.
455: [03:38:02] <antmas> nice
456: [03:39:41] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: you?
457: [03:40:01] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: nope
458: [03:40:13] <antmas> Ryan-Toast: west coast nz, to stay with parents
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460: [03:40:45] <Ryan-Toast> antmas: Sounds like fun :P
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462: [03:53:08] <simon_w|air> <Snowman23> I think it was part of the "github issues is crap, the only way we can use them is by not allowing feature requests"
463: [03:53:21] <simon_w|air> Yup. I so wanted to reply to Ingo's post with an "I told you so"
464: [03:56:30] <simon_w|air> Maybe I should go back to the original moving-to-GitHub-issues thread and bring up what an utter failure it's been
465: [03:59:53] <Snowman23> lol
466: [03:59:59] <Snowman23> Now now, no need to be negative about it, simon_w|air
467: [04:00:37] <simon_w|air> I have no idea what to do on Saturday because I've got no idea what most of the issues are about and no feature requests
468: [04:01:06] <Snowman23> Should we get hiphop working?! :D
469: [04:01:11] <simon_w|air> Maybe I could work on an issue tracker
470: [04:01:22] <simon_w|air> Eh, that's fairly straightforward now
471: [04:02:18] <simon_w|air> I'm going to get https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/pull/1314 done then the one Reflection method needed for SS
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492: [06:32:11] <dilshan> hello
493: [06:32:23] <Snowman23> Hallo
494: [06:33:27] <dilshan> I'm customizing silverstripe login form with group based redirection...it is done..but i want to change the default log out redirection path to home page
495: [06:33:37] <dilshan> currently is "Security/login?BackURL......."
496: [06:33:50] <dilshan> any idea ?
497: [06:33:56] <Snowman23> No idea sorry :O
498: [06:34:01] <Snowman23> Someone else might know if you stick aroudn though
499: [06:34:28] <dilshan> hmmmm i guess so..thank you
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502: [06:40:49] <Jayden90> Anyone know how to change the formatting in the template of a $db time field, i.e. 'SundayOpen' => 'Time',
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504: [06:41:39] <Jayden90> Comes out like 10:00:00 no matter how you setConfig('timeformat', 'HH:mm');
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506: [06:43:34] <Jayden90> Hmm may have found it http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/class-Time.html
507: [06:43:42] <Jayden90> {$MondayOpen.Nice}
508: [06:44:13] <new_learner> i have a folder name ss3.1 in www/.........but its not getting load in the browser.......what may be the problem?
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510: [06:48:18] <Jayden90> Would be nice to link to the Time class in the TimeField api page, perhaps with a code example. Searching "Time" in the search box did not show up a time class. Had to seperatly google it
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513: [06:57:35] <tangdiddle> Hi guys, is this a good room to talk/ask about dev issues
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515: [06:59:57] <FrozenFire> This channel is for talk about dags
516: [07:00:00] <FrozenFire> You like dags?
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518: [07:04:50] <simon_w|air> I like my graphs having cycles though
519: [07:05:01] <simon_w|air> tangdiddle, it is
520: [07:05:25] * FrozenFire is so happy with his SSD
521: [07:06:34] * simon_w|air would prefer his more if rewrites weren't so damn slow
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535: [07:56:57] <iamss> Hi Guys! I have a page type that passes the name of the product in the url. How do I get rid of the index urlsegment of the controller.
536: [07:57:24] <iamss> for example www.website.com/product/index/TShirt
537: [07:58:15] <iamss> the goal should be like this www.website.com/product/TShirt
538: [07:58:54] <iamss> the Diretor::addRules can't fix my concern
539: [07:58:57] <iamss> please help
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541: [08:08:16] <simon_w|air> iamss, in the controller, private static $url_handlers = array('$ID/$OtherID' => 'handleAction');
542: [08:08:32] <simon_w|air> It will stop you from being able to use any action other than index() though
543: [08:09:30] <iamss> thanks! @simon_w
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550: [08:42:41] <guzzlefry> Any suggestions for handling a form that has a fieldset that varies depending on what's selected in a dropdown?
551: [08:43:29] <guzzlefry> I was thinking I'd just list all of the fieldsets and hide with javascript. Not sure if that's the best approach though.
552: [08:44:37] <huberd> I'd do the same
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557: [09:12:34] <vogels> someone here who can help me with invisible spam protection module in comment fields?
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572: [09:55:20] <darw> Someone online?
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575: [09:59:15] <huberd> y
576: [10:15:40] <zippy__> vogels: whats up?
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578: [10:42:34] <marvanni> Hm.. I have created a custom LeftAdminMain with templates/Includes/MyCustomLeftAndMain_Content.ss
579: [10:42:53] <marvanni> and _Tools.ss _EditForm.ss etc
580: [10:43:06] <marvanni> the templates are in the cache_manifest file
581: [10:43:17] <marvanni> but they are not rendered...
582: [10:43:38] <marvanni> var_dump($this->getTemplatesWithSuffix('_Content')); does show the template as well
583: [10:44:31] <marvanni> I also have tries various ?flush=1 ?flush=all etc in admin and siteroot, but still no joy...
584: [10:44:35] <marvanni> any ideas?
585: [10:49:53] <kinglozzer> marvanni: I have mine in mysite/templates/MyAdmin_Tools.ss
586: [10:50:01] <kinglozzer> Try moving it up a level :)
587: [10:52:35] <vogels> zippy__ are you still here
588: [10:53:15] <marvanni> i have mine in modulename/templates/Includes just like cms has
589: [10:53:25] <marvanni> this works for ModelAdminExtensions though...
590: [10:53:43] <marvanni> moving the templates to mymodule/templates does not help btw...
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595: [12:18:13] <dangerdan> how do people integrate css grids into their silverstripe sites? do you add fields on a per page type basis?
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