#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 30 September 2013

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1: [00:01:58] <simon_w> Try using your normal head then?
2: [00:02:26] <spronk2> fn prog has completely decimated that too
3: [00:05:51] <simon_w> I rather like it
4: [00:06:28] <spronk2> i'm doing this coursera course on fn prog with scala
5: [00:06:32] <spronk2> trying to implement a map function for sets
6: [00:06:33] <spronk2> lol
7: [00:07:02] <Pyromanik> 12:30 <@simon_w> ss23, what's her name?
8: [00:07:07] <Pyromanik> lol, great troll <3
9: [00:08:01] <Pyromanik> spronk2: but functional programming is just like normal programming only with a few less scopes.
10: [00:08:10] <spronk2> oh god, it isn't
11: [00:08:24] <spronk2> the thinking is so different
12: [00:08:36] <Pyromanik> program only follows a single path no matter your paradigm
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16: [00:21:37] * sekjal quit (Quit: sekjal)
17: [00:21:37] <ss23> 12:31:55 <@simon_w> ss23, what's her name?
18: [00:21:37] <ss23> I wish...
19: [00:21:37] <ss23> Was (ex) flatmate, dude, giving me phone charger
20: [00:21:55] * Stomach quit (Quit: Leaving.)
21: [00:24:04] <Pyromanik> boom, called it!
22: [00:26:10] <ss23> lol
23: [00:26:27] <ss23> Though, I'm like 99% sure The Terrace has way hoter chicks walking around than down here does
24: [00:26:38] <ss23> Someone asid something about the uni so presume it's up there
25: [00:26:40] <EasyCo> Jesus, my brain is still on it's weekend time. Just spent 30 mins trying to figure out why my constructor wasn't being hit… __counstructor :/
26: [00:26:53] <ss23> EasyCo: XF
27: [00:26:54] <ss23> XD
28: [00:26:58] <EasyCo> Plus I can't spell
29: [00:27:14] <EasyCo> *its *__constructor
30: [00:27:29] <spronk2> seriously will someone set ss23 up with someone
31: [00:28:23] <ss23> XD
32: [00:29:29] <ss23> I'm going to need to proof-read this...
33: [00:29:37] <ss23> Mean to write "To reiterate the solutions we presented to Julian"
34: [00:29:42] <ss23> >To reiterate the Julians we presented to Julian
35: [00:29:52] <Avroceptyr> ah yes, the regal __countstructor; How many times does it get called? One ah ah ah. Two ah ah ah! Two times! ah ah ah.
36: [00:30:00] <ss23> hahahahahaha Avroceptyr
37: [00:31:38] <spronk2> omfg
38: [00:31:41] <spronk2> fuck seagate
39: [00:31:48] <Pyromanik> was thinking the same thing, rofl.
40: [00:32:12] <spronk2> Pyromanik: … to whom?
41: [00:32:29] <Pyromanik> Avroceptyr
42: [00:32:33] <Pyromanik> count joke
43: [00:32:34] <spronk2> :D
44: [00:32:57] <Pyromanik> the relation had occurred to me, but I didn't have the brain function spare to phrase it as a joke.
45: [00:34:45] <Pyromanik> fucking extatic it see someone else could :D
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47: [00:35:09] <EasyCo> This guy: http://www.foppishdandy.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/the-count.jpg
48: [00:35:36] <ss23> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM
49: [00:35:50] <ss23> (almost NSFW? I woud listen to it here, it's just sounding dodgy on speakres etc)
50: [00:36:48] <spronk> looool
51: [00:37:06] <spronk> i actually do worry about you sometimes, ss23
52: [00:37:24] <Pyromanik> simon_w: you made a gridfield component for stuff like what mmctf used to do right?
53: [00:37:31] <simon_w> yup
54: [00:37:42] <ss23> spronk: What for?
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56: [00:40:18] <Pyromanik> rofl
57: [00:40:23] <Pyromanik> dat youtube vi
58: [00:40:24] <Pyromanik> d
59: [00:40:36] <Pyromanik> pretty sure i've seen it many times before, but it's still making me laugh
60: [00:40:49] <ss23> :D
61: [00:41:24] <sekjal> out of curiousity, has anyone had a successful install of SS3 on a Raspberry Pi?
62: [00:42:58] <Pyromanik> why would it not be successful?
63: [00:43:16] <Pyromanik> RAM limitation would be the only issue I can think of
64: [00:43:27] <razzi> only 16 minutes left guys
65: [00:43:35] <Pyromanik> until breaking bad?
66: [00:43:41] <razzi> yes
67: [00:43:51] <sekjal> that, the limited processing power, prereqs not compiling well on the ARM platform
68: [00:43:53] <Stomach> time to get off the internet for the day then
69: [00:44:11] <Pyromanik> sekjal: pretty sure most large projects run just fine on ARM
70: [00:44:46] <Pyromanik> http://archlinuxarm.org/packages?arch=&search=apache
71: [00:44:47] <ss23> 13:45:45 < sekjal> that, the limited processing power, prereqs not compiling well on the ARM platform
72: [00:44:51] <ss23> If I had a rbp, I would just use distcc
73: [00:44:56] <Pyromanik> http://archlinuxarm.org/packages?arch=&search=php
74: [00:45:06] <ss23> (If I wanted to compile things)
75: [00:45:16] <Pyromanik> ss23: I think he meant it being unable to compile for ARM architecture.
76: [00:45:24] <Pyromanik> if it can't, then it's a shit project tbh.
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78: [00:47:00] <sekjal> it certainly sounds like it *should* work, but there may be some hidden gotchas or roadbumps
79: [00:47:00] <Pyromanik> sekjal: if rbp can run Q3A, then it should be able to host a low traffic website without issue.
80: [00:47:18] <ss23> SilverStripe is a lot more expensive thant Q3A!
81: [00:47:27] <Pyromanik> sekjal: SS depends on a portable platform independent of architecture.
82: [00:47:35] <Pyromanik> ss23: haha, probably.
83: [00:47:51] <Pyromanik> just rewrite SS in C.
84: [00:47:55] <Pyromanik> problem solved.
85: [00:48:15] <Pyromanik> 13:47 < Pyromanik> sekjal: SS depends on a portable platform independent of architecture.
86: [00:48:23] <Pyromanik> ie, webserver & php
87: [00:49:04] <Pyromanik> there's nothing inherent in any particular platform that would prevent it from running so long as it can run SS's platform.
88: [00:49:17] <Pyromanik> limitations in speed and memory size aside.
89: [00:49:32] <Pyromanik> but those are hardware limitations, not architecture issues.
90: [00:49:37] <sekjal> yeah, it may be less "does it run" than "does my particular site run well"
91: [00:50:08] <simon_w> Doubt it
92: [00:50:11] <EasyCo> Where else would the locale be set? I've got locale set in my _config.php but when I use the CountryDropdownField I keep getting United Kingdom as the default selection
93: [00:50:16] <ss23> 13:49:46 < Pyromanik> just rewrite SS in C.
94: [00:50:25] <ss23> You jest, but you didn't hear the converstions about rewriting parts in Go!
95: [00:50:29] <Pyromanik> sekjal: yeh, in that case then if you're planning to run production on it... No.
96: [00:50:46] <Pyromanik> ss23: just convert it all to javascript.
97: [00:50:51] <Pyromanik> problem solved.
98: [00:50:53] <ss23> lawl
99: [00:50:58] <ss23> Front end rendering, bro!
100: [00:51:15] <Pyromanik> suddenly: backbone2
101: [00:51:20] <Pyromanik> xD
102: [00:51:28] <sekjal> thinking of using it as a personal digital repository. Limited access, few concurrent users, etc.
103: [00:51:44] <Pyromanik> sekjal: well there's only one way to found out TBH.
104: [00:51:52] <EasyCo> Anybody?
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106: [00:52:08] <Pyromanik> EasyCo: user.
107: [00:52:13] <sekjal> Pyromanik: Indeed! Will be sure to blog it up
108: [00:52:15] <Pyromanik> ie. Member.
109: [00:52:30] <Pyromanik> sekjal: glhf!
110: [00:52:34] <EasyCo> Yah, no. It's just the front-end with nobody logged in.
111: [00:52:43] <Pyromanik> config
112: [00:52:50] <EasyCo> Does zend_locale just take the server locale?
113: [00:52:56] <Pyromanik> no
114: [00:53:05] <Pyromanik> if you set locale properly
115: [00:53:19] <Pyromanik> i18n::set_locale('en_NZ');
116: [00:53:19] <Pyromanik> i18n::set_default_locale('en_NZ');
117: [00:53:24] <ss23> don' do that
118: [00:53:29] <Pyromanik> lol
119: [00:53:31] <ss23> en_NZ isn't valid locale
120: [00:53:36] <Pyromanik> sure it is
121: [00:53:43] <EasyCo> en_AU anyways :)
122: [00:53:59] <ss23> It's defintily not in 2.4
123: [00:54:00] <Pyromanik> mm
124: [00:54:06] <ss23> If you do that in 2.4, you get massive amounts of weirdness etc
125: [00:54:22] <Pyromanik> ss23: sure it is. There's just no support for it and 2.4 implodes like a prune.
126: [00:54:29] <ss23> ...
127: [00:54:32] <ss23> That's the same thing then!
128: [00:54:33] <Pyromanik> like when you set it to lolcat.
129: [00:54:34] <Pyromanik> don't do that.
130: [00:54:45] <ss23> The point is, setting it to en_NZ is the same as setting it to "fuck you"
131: [00:54:49] <ss23> It won't do what it *should*
132: [00:54:53] <Pyromanik> bs
133: [00:54:57] <Pyromanik> works fine in 3.0
134: [00:55:08] * sekjal quit (Quit: sekjal)
135: [00:55:09] <Pyromanik> except the CMS is retarded in some few edgecases
136: [00:55:16] <ss23> aka ALL THE PLACES LOCALE IS USED
137: [00:55:19] <Pyromanik> my ACTUAL config looks like this:
138: [00:55:20] <EasyCo> http://framework.zend.com/manual/1.12/en/zend.locale.appendix.html
139: [00:55:21] <Pyromanik> i18n::set_locale('en_NZ');
140: [00:55:22] <Pyromanik> i18n::set_default_locale('en_NZ');
141: [00:55:22] <Pyromanik> //Requirements::add_i18n_javascript($project . '/javascript/lang', $return=false, $langOnly=true);
142: [00:55:25] <Pyromanik> LeftAndMain::require_javascript($project.'/javascript/lang/'.i18n::default_locale().'.js');
143: [00:55:25] <EasyCo> See en_NZ
144: [00:55:28] <Pyromanik> LeftAndMain::require_javascript($project.'/javascript/lang/'.i18n::get_locale().'.js');
145: [00:55:40] <Pyromanik> oh comment, you troll.
146: [00:56:05] <ss23> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/tree/3.1/javascript/lang
147: [00:56:06] <Pyromanik> commented line doesn't work.
148: [00:56:08] <Pyromanik> btw
149: [00:56:20] <ss23> There is no translation files for en_NZ, setting it breaks the CMS in lots of places (at least in 2.4)
150: [00:56:38] <ss23> Probably 3.X is better at not breaking when you set a locale that doesn't have translations
151: [00:56:38] <Pyromanik> ss23: yeh, but we're living in the future man.
152: [00:56:45] <Pyromanik> 3.0 works fine.
153: [00:56:52] <ss23> "works fine"
154: [00:56:53] <Pyromanik> nb last two lines on above paste.
155: [00:57:01] <Pyromanik> 13:55 < Pyromanik> LeftAndMain::require_javascript($project.'/javascript/lang/'.i18n::default_locale().'.js');
156: [00:57:04] <Pyromanik> 13:55 < Pyromanik> LeftAndMain::require_javascript($project.'/javascript/lang/'.i18n::get_locale().'.js');
157: [00:57:13] <ss23> Those Javascript files don't exist, Pyromanik?
158: [00:57:16] <Pyromanik> PROBREM SOLVED
159: [00:57:21] <Pyromanik> ss23: -.-
160: [00:57:25] <ss23> oh
161: [00:57:26] <ss23> wtf
162: [00:57:26] <Pyromanik> cf $project
163: [00:57:38] <ss23> :/
164: [00:57:43] <ss23> So
165: [00:57:49] <ss23> Use a locale of "fuckyou"
166: [00:57:50] <ss23> IT's more fun
167: [00:57:58] <Pyromanik> lol, could, but it's not a valid locale
168: [00:58:07] <Pyromanik> <html lang="fuckyou"> is not pretty
169: [00:58:11] <simon_w> ah, a local git clone of framework is so much faster than pulling from github
170: [00:58:59] <Pyromanik> so
171: [00:59:06] <Pyromanik> autocomplete text entry search box field thingy
172: [00:59:15] <Pyromanik> ss removed its inbuilt one right?
173: [00:59:28] <simon_w> yup
174: [01:01:30] * Pyromanik looks up how GridFieldAddExistingAutocompleter does it
175: [01:03:16] <simon_w> Watching people run for buses is amusing me
176: [01:04:21] <Pyromanik> * Returns a json array of a search results that can be used by for example Jquery.ui.autosuggestion
177: [01:04:43] <Pyromanik> oic
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179: [01:11:07] <Colin[pi]> hai guise
180: [01:14:12] <Pyromanik> oh I can just use chillu's tagfield
181: [01:14:15] <Pyromanik> great :D
182: [01:14:55] <Pyromanik> hi Colin[pi]
183: [01:16:51] <Colin[pi]> heya
184: [01:24:02] <UncleCheese> SticksM: did you get display logic working?
185: [01:25:32] <SticksM> Hi UncleCheese. Nope! I want to do this but not how since isNotChecked() isn't available: $ThisField->displayIf("foo")->isChecked()->andIf("bar")->isNotChecked();
186: [01:25:33] <ss23> Holy shit
187: [01:25:37] <ss23> You guys know the ending of Breaking Bad yet?
188: [01:25:41] <UncleCheese> STOP
189: [01:25:48] <ss23> ...
190: [01:25:50] <ss23> Wanna know?
191: [01:25:52] <ss23> WANNA KNOW?!
192: [01:25:53] <UncleCheese> NO
193: [01:25:55] <UncleCheese> signing off
194: [01:25:56] <UncleCheese> bye
195: [01:26:00] <UncleCheese> sorry, SticksM
196: [01:26:03] <UncleCheese> ss23 is being a dick
197: [01:26:10] <ss23> hahahhahahaha
198: [01:26:12] <ss23> UncleCheese: I won't spoil it for you
199: [01:26:13] <ss23> :P
200: [01:26:36] <EasyCo> I'd send a hit man to take you out if you did.
201: [01:26:45] <ss23> Speaking of sending a hit man...
202: [01:26:55] <EasyCo> Quiet you.
203: [01:26:58] <ss23> hahaha
204: [01:27:01] <ss23> I haven't seen it, btw
205: [01:27:01] <UncleCheese> he's just taking the piss
206: [01:27:16] <ss23> Though I do know a spoiler, if someone wants to hear it in PM etc
207: [01:27:28] <EasyCo> Taking the piss… Getting in on some kiwi terms UC.
208: [01:27:31] <UncleCheese> :D
209: [01:27:33] <ss23> haha
210: [01:38:00] * razzi quit ()
211: [01:44:45] <Avroceptyr> Am having trouble finding a tutorial on how to set up a module. Can anyone point me to some resources that show MVC in action pretty please?
212: [01:44:49] <Avroceptyr> custom module*
213: [01:46:00] * Colin[pi] quit ()
214: [01:48:11] <ss23> Avroceptyr: Uhhhh, all the modules are examples :O
215: [01:48:18] <ss23> Avroceptyr: Can you give us more context on what you want to do etc?
216: [01:51:43] <Avroceptyr> sure, I'm looking to have a module that provides library functions to other modules
217: [01:52:15] <Avroceptyr> so beyond an admin-side config screen and API/restful calls, there's no content or pages, per se
218: [01:52:39] <Avroceptyr> Maybe there's already a module that does something like that, which I can inspect and learn from
219: [02:00:49] * Peavers quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
220: [02:02:30] <longtips> just make mymodule/code/Webservice.php Webservice extends Controller
221: [02:02:40] <longtips> and read about url_handlers and allowed_actions
222: [02:02:45] <longtips> + the Controller
223: [02:07:28] <UncleCheese> anyone ever seen this? PHP Fatal error: Class 'Zend_Log_Exception' not found
224: [02:07:45] <ss23> Hmm, UncleCheese... it does ring a bell...
225: [02:07:48] <UncleCheese> yeah
226: [02:07:54] <UncleCheese> i've seen it at least twice before
227: [02:08:07] <ss23> rm -rf yourframeworkdir && composer install?
228: [02:08:12] <UncleCheese> yes
229: [02:09:33] <ss23> Holy shit though, such a massive twist in Breaking Bad
230: [02:09:35] <ss23> Who would've suspected Walt had cancer!
231: [02:10:11] <UncleCheese> !!!!!!!!!!!
232: [02:10:16] <ss23> :D
233: [02:10:20] <ss23> Funny joke, rite? :D
234: [02:10:31] <UncleCheese> yeah, my heart jumped a bit
235: [02:10:35] <ss23> XD
236: [02:12:17] <simon_w> Wait, he had cancer?
237: [02:12:18] <simon_w> Spoiling jerk!
238: [02:12:20] <ss23> XD
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240: [02:17:40] <UncleCheese> so this is kind of a fail.. if you have an exception in your /dev/build, it tries to throw Zend\Log\Exception before it's been loaded?
241: [02:17:59] <ss23> Wouldn't be surprised. You can't even dev/build propelry at all if you have Translataable
242: [02:18:01] <UncleCheese> i just had to require_once(Zend/Log/Exeception) in my config.php
243: [02:18:05] * FrozenFire quit (Quit: There's no place like ~)
244: [02:23:16] <Pyromanik> oh ho ho
245: [02:23:20] <Pyromanik> no place like !
246: [02:23:22] <Pyromanik> ~
247: [02:23:23] <Pyromanik> fuck
248: [02:23:25] <Pyromanik> :<
249: [02:24:06] <Pyromanik> ss23: I haven't seen the first episode, so it's news to me.
250: [02:24:27] <ss23> lol
251: [02:24:51] <Pyromanik> Avroceptyr: you could just enable the restful api...
252: [02:25:05] <Pyromanik> longtips: ^
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255: [02:26:38] <Pyromanik> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-restfulserver/tree/master
256: [02:26:45] <longtips> yeah i was responding to the general question about making your own library module
257: [02:27:05] <Pyromanik> it's been pulled out of core: http://api.silverstripe.org/2.4/class-RestfulServer.html
258: [02:27:31] <Pyromanik> longtips: well that's easy. make a folder, put a _config dir or a _config.php file in it. Done.
259: [02:28:28] <longtips> yep
260: [02:28:41] <Pyromanik> Avroceptyr: doing the tutorials is well worth it if you're wondering about the general structure of the system. They're short and quite informative.
261: [02:28:57] <Pyromanik> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/tutorials
262: [02:29:31] <Pyromanik> consequently you can also find:
263: [02:29:32] <Pyromanik> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/module-development
264: [02:35:02] <Avroceptyr> cheers Pyromanik - have followed those, some of the links don't work (such as the 'Add a link to your module in the main SilverStripe Admin Menu' in the ...../module-development URL)
265: [02:35:08] <Avroceptyr> hence my question earlier
266: [02:35:14] <Pyromanik> Quick: pick a number. -1? No, I meant a number between 1 and 10. 7½? No no, not a fraction, silly. π? Now you’re just being irrational.
267: [02:35:20] <Pyromanik> OH GOD DAT PUN
268: [02:35:21] <Pyromanik> <3
269: [02:35:25] <Pyromanik> simon_w: ^^
270: [02:38:30] <Pyromanik> Avroceptyr: look into cms's CMSMain, LeftAndMain, etc.
271: [02:38:35] <Pyromanik> they build that side menu
272: [02:43:12] * Jayden90 has joined #silverstripe
273: [02:43:49] <Jayden90> Anyone else been getting Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/evoke/website/framework/core/manifest/ConfigManifest.php on line 655
274: [02:43:54] <Jayden90> usually after building
275: [02:44:11] <Jayden90> flushing browser cache and a few refreshes gets rid of it
276: [02:44:42] <simon_w> Jayden90, usually happens when you've got a YAML file not split properly or improperly formatted
277: [02:45:13] <Jayden90> hmm thanks for the clue :)
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279: [02:56:07] <openbees> Hello folks :) Is there any way to show all fields of a dataobject in template without actually knowing the field names :/ may be I am expecting too much from here :|
280: [02:57:31] <simon_w> $Debug?
281: [03:01:59] <Pyromanik> var_dump?
282: [03:03:01] <Pyromanik> I don't understand this http://api.silverstripe.org/3.1/source-class-Form.html#1279
283: [03:05:15] <openbees> I don't think these will help me :( I want to do something like <% loop MyHasManyList %> <% loop AllFields %> $FieldTitle : $FieldValue <% end_loop %> <% end_loop %>
284: [03:05:26] * zippy__ quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
285: [03:05:50] <Pyromanik> openbees: there might be some kind of map function that does what you're looking for.
286: [03:06:04] <Pyromanik> I seem to remember seeing one somewhere, but dont' remember if it was dataobjecty
287: [03:06:34] <openbees> me too and probably in some SS inbuilt template .. that's why I came to ask :D
288: [03:06:41] <Jayden90> is there a way to move fields between tabs now or do you still have to recreate then delete the old one.
289: [03:13:44] <Pyromanik> simon_w: are you able to help me explain this line?
290: [03:14:03] <Pyromanik> it appears to me that there's no possible way a field will have a method accessable on it that the form will call as it's action
291: [03:14:30] <Pyromanik> openbees: well Debug does basically what you're asking.
292: [03:14:50] <Pyromanik> Jayden90: if you just make a new field with the same name it does the moving for you afaik.
293: [03:15:01] <openbees> Pyromanik : ok thanks man .. I will try with that :)
294: [03:17:16] <Jayden90> Pyromanik: With just the minimum syntax? I imagine it would just delete the old one along with its options.
295: [03:18:13] <simon_w> Pyromanik, legacy. Just use form's action/field/FieldName/blah
296: [03:18:37] <simon_w> Have a look at the URL when editing something in GridField for an example
297: [03:19:12] <Pyromanik> simon_w: legacy as in code rot?
298: [03:19:22] <Jayden90> I'll play around. It would be nice if there was a $fields->MoveFieldByName('MetaDescription, 'Root.Main', 'Metadata');
299: [03:19:28] <Pyromanik> simon_w: I realise how loading a field works
300: [03:19:32] <simon_w> Pyromanik, well, it's what the CTFs used
301: [03:19:47] <Pyromanik> but ctf isn't a thing anymore :<
302: [03:20:11] <Pyromanik> and Form::httpRequest doesn't seem to support that kind of action call at all anymore
303: [03:20:20] <simon_w> And building HHVM is so slow
304: [03:20:28] <Pyromanik> also simon_w, won't loading a field wipe the state of my form
305: [03:20:30] <Pyromanik> ?
306: [03:20:41] <Pyromanik> unless I do it with ajax?
307: [03:20:49] <simon_w> Well, you'd do it with ajax
308: [03:20:57] <Pyromanik> I don't wanna :<
309: [03:21:10] <Pyromanik> sigh
310: [03:21:35] <Pyromanik> oh well, guess I gotta.
311: [03:22:28] <Pyromanik> balls.
312: [03:24:09] <simon_w> Hmm, tempted to let HHVM build overnight and go home now
313: [03:24:16] <simon_w> Finish my talk and all that
314: [03:25:30] <simon_w> Oh man, some of my old teachers might be in the audience.
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316: [03:29:16] <EasyCo> simon_w: What's your talk about?
317: [03:29:25] <ss23> EasyCo: Words n stuff
318: [03:29:45] <simon_w> The IOI
319: [03:29:58] <ss23> (Programming competition)
320: [03:30:33] <simon_w> Home time! :D
321: [03:30:37] <EasyCo> IOI
322: [03:30:42] <EasyCo> Just learnt something new
323: [03:30:56] <ss23> I only know because my flatmate run it for NZ kind of now
324: [03:31:01] <ss23> ex flatmate, I should say
325: [03:31:43] <EasyCo> How does it work? You sit at a laptop and you're given a task?
326: [03:31:48] <ss23> lol
327: [03:32:08] <ss23> Competition format, probably (I've not done it) is standard, bunch of questions, try complete them quickly and goodly to get points
328: [03:33:51] <EasyCo> Apparently you can bring 2. reasonable jewellery and 5. small mascots with you.
329: [03:35:31] <EasyCo> Flag aren't permitted though
330: [03:35:35] <EasyCo> *flags
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332: [03:36:53] <mobiusnz> I Have: " Only:
333: [03:36:53] <mobiusnz> environment: 'dev'" in my config.yml - any idea why it's not applying?
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336: [03:46:02] <EasyCo> When you extend a class and add new $db values. What's the behaviour? Are all the listed values of $db throughout the inheritance chain just tacked together?
337: [03:48:00] <EasyCo> array values that is
338: [03:51:20] <Pyromanik> well
339: [03:51:23] <Pyromanik> no
340: [03:51:32] <EasyCo> no?
341: [03:51:37] <Pyromanik> it only builds a new table if you've added things that are new.
342: [03:51:50] <Pyromanik> I think
343: [03:52:11] <Pyromanik> all things from parent classes are accessible from within the new object, if that's what you're asking.
344: [03:52:50] <Pyromanik> but in extending a class and adding db values you get a new table with that classname and only the db values it defines in it.
345: [03:52:53] <Pyromanik> and ID.
346: [03:52:54] <EasyCo> Oh yahhhh
347: [03:52:56] <EasyCo> Makes sense now
348: [03:53:19] <Pyromanik> the table is joined with the parent class, etc, until a full record is made.
349: [03:55:18] <EasyCo> Thanks
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375: [05:01:10] <ss23> Oh no, willr is here
376: [05:01:11] <ss23> :O
377: [05:01:21] <willr> for a change
378: [05:01:27] <ss23> :P
379: [05:01:31] <ss23> Come on IRC when you work, willr!
380: [05:01:33] <willr> what did I miss?
381: [05:01:48] <willr> My new mac doesn't have Colloquy yet at work!
382: [05:02:24] <ss23> :O
383: [05:02:25] <ss23> irssi! :D
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385: [05:04:17] <willr> I'm sure you can hold down the fort
386: [05:04:27] <ss23> :P
387: [05:04:28] <ss23> I try...
388: [05:07:26] <simon_w|air> He really can't
389: [05:09:07] <ss23> :<
390: [05:09:08] <ss23> wah
391: [05:09:27] <ss23> yay
392: [05:09:29] <ss23> I have a new bookmark
393: [05:09:38] <ss23> Labelled "People who don't make shit opensource -- (page name here)"
394: [05:09:50] <ss23> Going to link it to people who are of the "I'll keep it closed source until it's ready!"
395: [05:10:09] <simon_w|air> Eh, I just keep it closed source
396: [05:11:28] <ss23> IMO, keeping it completely closed source forever is *far* more valid than the "I'll write it then make it opensource later!" bullshit
397: [05:15:58] <willr> if you can't be assed supporting it, don't make it open source
398: [05:17:19] <ss23> Where is the "doc is this icon!" "png is this icon!" stuff in SS?
399: [05:18:17] <simon_w|air> Probably in File somewhere?
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401: [05:20:13] <ss23> simon_w|air: Are you pro @ busses at my new house? (100E Karepa Street, Brooklyn)
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403: [05:20:29] <simon_w|air> Brooklyn only has the 7, right?
404: [05:20:35] <ss23> The 8 too
405: [05:20:47] <ss23> 8 goes right outside my house
406: [05:21:02] <ss23> But it has a lame schedule. No weekends, and last bus is at 8pm
407: [05:26:30] <simon_w|air> Sucks to be you then
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414: [06:05:02] <simon_w|air> Bah, still at least three minutes short of content to talk about
415: [06:05:33] <ss23> simon_w|air: Obviously, ask for 3 mins of silence at the start!
416: [06:08:53] <simon_w|air> That's stretching it a little far
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418: [06:35:48] <mwm_> hi, couldn't find it in the docs but wondering if its possible to remove an extension using config.yml?
419: [06:37:15] <ss23> Hmm
420: [06:37:16] <ss23> I don't think so
421: [06:40:23] <mwm_> ah, thanks ss23!
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426: [07:19:15] <ss23> Does flush clear combined_files, simon_w|air or someone?
427: [07:21:41] <ss23> willr? ;_;
428: [07:21:44] <ss23> idk where to check :<
429: [07:21:58] <willr> rm -rf assets/_combined_files/
430: [07:22:05] <ss23> willr: That's not what I asked
431: [07:22:06] <ss23> ;_;
432: [07:22:25] <willr> RTFS?
433: [07:22:31] <ss23> willr: I tried, I wasn't sure where to look
434: [07:22:55] <ss23> willr: I tried searching on "flush", but I mainly get weird chains and places that I don't understand. SEesm like there's a million places it *could* do it, but idk where it *does*, if it does
435: [07:23:13] <willr> no it doesn't flush on flush. It uses filemtime()
436: [07:23:32] <willr> flush will bypass the combination step
437: [07:23:46] <willr> that the answer you want?
438: [07:23:54] <ss23> Uh, almost. I just need to understand it right...
439: [07:24:04] <simon_w|air> ss23, Requirements_Backend::process_combined_files
440: [07:24:06] <simon_w|air> Just read it
441: [07:24:06] <ss23> So you're saying flush doesn't remove or re-combine the files? The only way to do that is to rm -rf them?
442: [07:24:33] <willr> correct, or to touch the css files so that the file modified date changes
443: [07:24:52] <ss23> simon_w|air: I don't see anything in there to do with flushing?
444: [07:25:06] <ss23> Thank you, willr :D
445: [07:25:29] <simon_w|air> ss23, read it better
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447: [07:25:49] <ss23> oic
448: [07:25:53] <ss23> it says a flush=1 does regenerate it!
449: [07:26:05] <ss23> So, willr, the opposite of what you said? ;_;
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452: [07:26:17] <guci0> Hello Moto!
453: [07:26:28] <willr> lies
454: [07:26:37] <ss23> hmmmm
455: [07:26:41] <ss23> if(file_exists($combinedFilePath) && !isset($_GET['flush'])) {
456: [07:26:50] <ss23> That looks like it'll only rebuild if it's *not* a flush...
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458: [07:27:05] <simon_w|air> Nope, look at the else
459: [07:27:07] <ss23> oic, other way around
460: [07:27:08] <ss23> yeah
461: [07:27:16] <ss23> cool beans
462: [07:27:17] <simon_w|air> It only does the mtime() check if it's not a flush
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469: [08:13:55] <ocm> howdy!
470: [08:15:01] <kinglozzer> 'morning
471: [08:18:02] <guci0> hi!
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473: [08:33:24] <ocm> hmm, small question about search results
474: [08:33:38] <ocm> does it only look in templates/Layout for a template?
475: [08:34:01] <ocm> I want to display search results coming from the blog module to use BlogTree_results.ss (template and Layout)
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479: [09:37:29] <micmania1> What's the normal practice for translatable alt attributes in image tags? Is it just a case of re-uploading the same image with different attributed? (I'm using 2.4 btw)
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481: [09:45:20] <guci0> Hmmm... Is there any changes with 3.1-rc3 and FilesystemPublisher?
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485: [10:24:28] <micmania1> Is there a way to clone an object/dataobejct in 2.4?
486: [10:25:27] <spronk2> duplicate()
487: [10:26:45] <micmania1> perfect. cheers
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499: [13:24:14] <Marvanni> any hints when using framework only to set the url rules to a SingleController without the need to use an urlsegment?
500: [13:24:53] <Marvanni> so domain.com/$Action/$ID/$OtherID works
501: [13:25:47] <kinglozzer> Marvanni: '$Action/$ID/$OtherID': 'SingleController' ?
502: [13:26:39] <Marvanni> that will break dev/build
503: [13:28:59] <kinglozzer> After: '#coreroutes'
504: [13:30:42] <kinglozzer> Marvanni: Something like that http://pastie.org/8366876
505: [13:30:49] <kinglozzer> Maybe :P
506: [13:33:29] <Marvanni> that will make dev/build inaccessible.... :)
507: [13:33:40] <kinglozzer> Marvanni: Have you tested it?
508: [13:33:50] <kinglozzer> The After: should prevent that happening
509: [13:34:02] <kinglozzer> Or maybe it needs to be before those routes for dev
510: [13:36:42] <kinglozzer> Maybe http://pastie.org/8366886 that? I don't know much about routing, but you should be able to achieve that with some sort of combination of before/after
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512: [13:41:35] <Marvanni> same :)
513: [13:45:02] <kinglozzer> Hmm, you might need to add that rule, then re-add the rules for /dev, /Security etc afterward
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515: [13:55:04] <kinglozzer> Marvanni: This adds your route and keeps all the old routes: http://pastie.org/8366942
516: [13:55:19] <kinglozzer> I'm sure there's a cleaner way of doing it, but I can't get it to work >.<
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518: [14:00:08] <dangerdan> Is it possible to set a default value for many_many_extraFields? if so how?
519: [14:02:38] <Marvanni> hm... no joy ... but thanks for your help... I think I will need to mimic the RootUrlController, that searches for SiteTree::URLSegment == home
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521: [14:39:47] <NobrainerWeb> Hey
522: [14:40:54] <NobrainerWeb> Can someone tell me how to get the UpcomingEvents from the event-calendar module (ss3.1 rc2)?
523: [14:44:11] <NobrainerWeb> i need them to get listed on my homepage, but if i do something like $cal = Calendar::get()->limit(1); return $cal->UpcomingEvents(5); in a method on HomePage_Controller, i get the method 'upcomingevents' does not exist on 'DataList'
524: [14:45:38] <kinglozzer> NobrainerWeb: You need to do Calendar::get()->first()
525: [14:47:40] <NobrainerWeb> kinglozzer: thanks, that helped on a part of the problem (i think i understand). But my loop still returns no results from UpcomingEvents (method on Calendar.php)
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527: [14:54:05] <kinglozzer> Can't really help, I've never used that module. Do you definitely only have one calendar? Because it's loading a list of them, then getting the first one - if the first calendar has no events, none will show
528: [15:07:05] <NobrainerWeb> kinglozzer: there is only one yes. Ok, well i will have to see what i can do
529: [15:07:14] <NobrainerWeb> thank you for your help
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534: [15:31:43] <NobrainerWeb> Can someone tell me how to print UpcomingEvents from the event-calendar module on the frontpage?
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562: [16:47:12] <guzzlefry> Does is there a way to have CSV Export dump more than just what's in the summary fields?
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566: [16:54:02] <catcher> guzzlefry, you can always override the method, here's a related example: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17502299/how-to-export-all-rows-as-csv-in-modeladmin-silverstripe-3-1
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569: [16:55:16] <guzzlefry> ah thanks, I was hoping for something simpler. :/
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581: [17:20:34] <catcher> guzzlefry, it's possible there's a simpler way, someone else may know one.
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583: [17:21:29] <jsQuestion> I'm using 2.4 and i added a function into the Page.php controller but when i try to call it in an ss Menu(1) control nothing gets logged and my method isn't called. What am i missing?
584: [17:21:30] <jsQuestion> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2159f2857daf9e2ff0da
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680: [19:49:54] <Pyromanik> Bad internets in Milwaukee today?
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684: [19:52:20] <catcher> sure looks that way!
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718: [20:19:30] <Pyromanik> ss23: ?
719: [20:20:05] <Pyromanik> what version tinymce does 2.4.latest (10,11,12,600?) use?
720: [20:20:32] <ss23> uh
721: [20:20:37] <ss23> I can't recall off the top of my head
722: [20:20:49] <ss23> Pyromanik: Should be easy to check, just look at the tinymce folder on github?
723: [20:20:52] <ss23> simon_w: I WIN
724: [20:20:57] <Pyromanik> it's not 3.whatever though is it?
725: [20:21:26] <Pyromanik> ss23: yeah I would, but there's like 700 2.4 branches, and I always confused which is the sec update release branch
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728: [20:22:49] <Pyromanik> hmm, seems they're all 2.4.1 anyways
729: [20:22:55] <Pyromanik> gah
730: [20:23:09] <Pyromanik> client having a whingy about chrome being shit.
731: [20:23:16] <Pyromanik> and it's totally not our fault
732: [20:23:38] <Pyromanik> but the account manager foolishly told them to use chrome because it's better, and now doesn't want to look silly by having to retract that statement
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734: [20:24:05] <Pyromanik> also
735: [20:24:07] <Pyromanik> tinymce
736: [20:24:11] <guzzlefry> Chrome has some odd rendering issues...
737: [20:24:13] <Pyromanik> so confusing version numbers
738: [20:24:19] <Pyromanik> {majorVersion:"3",minorVersion:"2.4.1"
739: [20:24:37] <Pyromanik> is that version 3 or version 2?
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741: [20:24:50] <Pyromanik> or does it 4 digits like 3.2.4.1?
742: [20:25:19] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry: or in this case complete lack of support
743: [20:26:02] <guzzlefry> What is it lacking?
744: [20:26:14] <Pyromanik> contentEditable support
745: [20:26:25] <Pyromanik> http://www.tinymce.com/develop/bugtracker_view.php?id=2495
746: [20:26:26] <guzzlefry> Does IE have that?
747: [20:26:34] <Pyromanik> yes
748: [20:26:54] <guzzlefry> dark days, man... :P
749: [20:26:56] <Pyromanik> http://www.tinymce.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=29222
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751: [20:27:17] <Pyromanik> chappy completely re-wrote an entire section of TinyMCE in order to hack around chrome not supporting.
752: [20:27:35] <Pyromanik> but that's 3.5.5, released Aug 20012
753: [20:27:38] <Pyromanik> er 2012
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755: [20:27:50] <Pyromanik> where as the version in 2.4 was released 2009
756: [20:27:55] <Pyromanik> so basically
757: [20:27:58] <Pyromanik> NO SIR
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760: [20:29:08] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry: IE6 supported it.
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763: [20:30:06] <guzzlefry> sad
764: [20:30:13] <Pyromanik> Milwaukee, sort your internets out, GOSH.
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766: [20:30:29] <Pyromanik> an entire f'n wall of join/parts
767: [20:30:48] <guzzlefry> #overflow? :P
768: [20:30:50] <Pyromanik> every 2 mins.
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770: [20:32:03] <Peavers> ss23!!
771: [20:32:15] <Peavers> simon_w!!
772: [20:32:43] <Peavers> do either of you folks know if deploynaut/ss will compile sass on deployment or do I have to upload the css like its 1999?
773: [20:33:29] <Pyromanik> ss23: so is the tinymce inside sapphire/thirdparty/tinymce/tineymce.js hacked, or what is it more specifically that makes it such a terribad to upgrade?
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775: [20:33:59] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1073 (3.1 - b291f3d : Ingo Schommer): The build was broken.
776: [20:33:59] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/6c943007a1ce...b291f3d0cdf8
777: [20:33:59] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/11978330
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779: [20:33:59] <Pyromanik> Peavers: simon_w doesn't work for SS.
780: [20:34:04] <Peavers> I know he doesnt
781: [20:34:34] <Peavers> But hes my contractor so I own him so I assume he knows everything anyway.
782: [20:35:01] <Pyromanik> lol
783: [20:35:05] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry: http://www.tinymce.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=71775#p71775
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790: [20:41:27] <Zauberfisch> i need trade gothic as font for a website, can someone recommend where i could by fonts rather than an abo with monthly cost?
791: [20:41:57] <Peavers> Can't just use an opensource/google font replacement?
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793: [20:45:13] <Pyromanik> lol earthquake
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795: [20:46:05] <Pyromanik> fairly decent one when you haven't felt one in a while.
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798: [20:46:40] <Pyromanik> geonet not keeping up :<
799: [20:47:44] <Pyromanik> wtf, drums not showing anything either.
800: [20:47:52] <Pyromanik> maybe someone just drove a truck into our building...
801: [20:47:53] <simon_w> Was it a bus?
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804: [20:48:19] <Pyromanik> simon_w: entire building was rolling around, pretty sure it wasn't a heavy machinery road wobble thing.
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807: [20:48:44] <simon_w> Ours does that when there's a bus idling outside
808: [20:48:52] <Pyromanik> lol
809: [20:48:54] <Pyromanik> bad.
810: [20:49:58] <Pyromanik> only get that when a bus drives past, and only if you're standing close. It barely makes the floor shudder - just enough to be noticible
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812: [20:50:52] <simon_w> Maybe another building collapsed
813: [20:51:28] <Pyromanik> ha, maybe
814: [20:51:37] <mobiusnz1> we felt it out in ilam
815: [20:51:38] <Pyromanik> but there aren't any close by here
816: [20:51:40] <Pyromanik> except the church
817: [20:51:43] * mobiusnz1 is now known as mobiusnz
818: [20:51:52] <Pyromanik> and yeah, certainly not if mobiusnz felt it
819: [20:51:58] <mobiusnz> and the twitterz are abuzz
820: [20:52:05] <mobiusnz> but it seemed far away and rolly
821: [20:52:06] <Pyromanik> but the geonet is zzzz
822: [20:52:13] <Pyromanik> yeh, lasted for a while.
823: [20:52:17] <mobiusnz> must've been out west way
824: [20:52:21] <Pyromanik> wasn't us, unless it was out darfield again
825: [20:52:47] <simon_w> Well, wasn't us
826: [20:53:03] <mobiusnz> yeah I'm thinking darfield way
827: [20:53:07] <mobiusnz> bloody darfield
828: [20:53:09] <simon_w> And my twitter's not mentioning it at all
829: [20:53:33] <mobiusnz> weird
830: [20:53:43] <Pyromanik> quite
831: [20:53:52] <Pyromanik> I'd have at least expected an inflection on a drum somewhere
832: [20:54:01] <Pyromanik> but nary a report anywhere
833: [20:54:12] <UncleCheese> OMG BREAKING BAD
834: [20:54:13] <Pyromanik> oh
835: [20:54:15] <mobiusnz> https://twitter.com/search?q=%23eqnz
836: [20:54:16] <Pyromanik> no, there we go
837: [20:54:17] <simon_w> Well, something's showing on the drums now
838: [20:54:22] <Pyromanik> yeh
839: [20:54:52] <simon_w> Man, lots more drums now
840: [20:55:05] <Pyromanik> lake benmore...
841: [20:55:14] <Pyromanik> wanaka
842: [20:55:16] <Pyromanik> hmm
843: [20:55:18] <simon_w> I remember when you could actually read the names on the aggregate one!
844: [20:55:21] <Pyromanik> that's quite far away
845: [20:55:36] <simon_w> #earthquakehipster
846: [20:55:41] <Pyromanik> you can't read that simon_w ?
847: [20:56:22] <Pyromanik> oh lol, it's a "responsive" image.
848: [20:56:30] <Pyromanik> sizes down when you shrink the window :<
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850: [20:56:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-framework#1074 (3.1 - f18ece1 : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
851: [20:56:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/b291f3d0cdf8...f18ece11ca82
852: [20:56:43] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/11980224
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854: [20:57:03] <simon_w> Pyromanik, my high density screen that I'm sitting back from for once probably doesn't help
855: [20:59:26] <guzzlefry> 0.o
856: [20:59:26] <mobiusnz> simon_w: adjust your zoom, old man
857: [20:59:34] <guzzlefry> PHP Fatal error: Cannot call constructor in /var/www/clients/vhosts/mysite/smtp/code/SmtpMailer.php on line 12
858: [20:59:40] <Peavers> lol old man? simon_w is like 17.
859: [20:59:44] <guzzlefry> Why doesn't it tell me why? :P
860: [21:00:02] <simon_w> Because one doesn't exist?
861: [21:01:14] <Pyromanik> guzzlefry: it did. "Cannot call"
862: [21:01:26] <guzzlefry> But why not? :P
863: [21:01:31] <guzzlefry> It appears that one exists.
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865: [21:02:36] <simon_w> Because it doesn't like you?
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867: [21:02:50] <Peavers> I should extend siteconfig with a dataextension yeah?
868: [21:02:52] <simon_w> private/protected constructor?
869: [21:02:56] <simon_w> Peavers, yup
870: [21:03:00] <guzzlefry> nope
871: [21:03:14] <Peavers> then just add that extention with object::add_ext etc etc?
872: [21:03:16] <simon_w> guzzlefry, what is line 12?
873: [21:03:24] <simon_w> Peavers, or YAML, yeah
874: [21:03:44] <guzzlefry> oh
875: [21:03:50] <guzzlefry> parent::__construct();
876: [21:03:59] <Peavers> is _config.php completely depreciated as in no longer works now?
877: [21:04:10] <guzzlefry> Peavers: works for me...
878: [21:04:12] <simon_w> Peavers, nope
879: [21:04:31] <Peavers> I'm not getting any chance in /dev/build or anything under siteconfig in the cms =S
880: [21:04:36] <simon_w> You still need it for more dynamic stuff and things you really shouldn't put in a yaml file (like db stuff, oauth keys)
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882: [21:05:44] <guzzlefry> So, it can't call Mailer::__construct() for some reason.
883: [21:05:54] <Peavers> if cwp is already extending siteconfig, I can still extend it again yeah?
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885: [21:06:41] <simon_w> yup
886: [21:06:49] <Peavers> but prob shouldn't use the same filename as cwp...
887: [21:06:57] <Peavers> called mine CustomSiteConfig - as did ss..
888: [21:06:58] <simon_w> Well, not the same class name
889: [21:07:02] <Peavers> yeah
890: [21:07:09] <Peavers> might be why mine isn't working lol
891: [21:07:11] <simon_w> Heh, yeah. You should tell them to not do that
892: [21:07:36] <Peavers> I'll call mine CwpSiteConfig just to fuck with them.
893: [21:07:42] <Peavers> that will teach them to take my namespace.
894: [21:09:40] <ss23> 09:34:39 < Peavers> do either of you folks know if deploynaut/ss will compile sass on deployment or do I have to upload the css like its 1999?
895: [21:10:09] <Peavers> ss23 please tell me you didn't just get your lazy ass into work?
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897: [21:10:39] <ss23> Peavers: The bus has a ~15 min variance
898: [21:10:47] <ss23> I was in at ~9:45 yesterday!
899: [21:10:52] <ss23> Same bus today, ~10:05
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901: [21:11:04] <Peavers> why has nobody bothared to fire you yet.
902: [21:11:06] <simon_w> Pyromanik, http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/2013p737471 there you go
903: [21:11:08] <Peavers> Paper work must be a bitch
904: [21:11:12] <ss23> I don't think Deploynaut does it, but if you want it, they can add it for you (probably? I know it's *technically* possible at least)
905: [21:11:31] <ss23> Peavers: Because when you have a job that's not like yours, people aren't assholse all day?
906: [21:11:34] <ss23> :D
907: [21:11:38] <Peavers> lol
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910: [21:11:41] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/dc1ae03fece8...7ec9596b9959
911: [21:11:41] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/11980526
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913: [21:11:42] <ss23> Peavers: Working in the government has given you a distroted view of reality, man!
914: [21:11:42] <Avroceptyr> So, we're all web devs here, right?
915: [21:11:50] <Peavers> I'm not a web dev.
916: [21:11:51] <simon_w> Sadly
917: [21:11:53] <Peavers> Please don't call me that.
918: [21:12:07] * simon_w calls Peavers a Ruby dev instead
919: [21:12:14] <Peavers> o
920: [21:12:15] <Peavers> m
921: [21:12:15] <Peavers> g
922: [21:12:29] <simon_w> Now I'm just being insulting?
923: [21:12:32] <Avroceptyr> This sentence made me weep tears of sadness this morning: "Q. How do you teach web developers about hardware? A. You don't. You teach hardware about web developers."
924: [21:12:32] <ss23> He's working in Government, isn't he a .NET dev?
925: [21:12:39] <ss23> lol Avroceptyr XD
926: [21:12:46] <Avroceptyr> http://www.slideshare.net/TechnicalMachine/tessel-the-end-of-web-development-as-we-know-it (slide 26)
927: [21:13:59] <Avroceptyr> It's like saying "how do you teach someone about subject matter that is somewhat relevant to their field? You don't - you change the field to know about the muppets using power tools so they don't hurt themselves"
928: [21:14:48] <ss23> Not like webdevs, normally, are the kind to learn hardware
929: [21:14:52] <Peavers> ss23, as to your first question - would be nice if deploynaut did compile sass, would save me having to pull down a local copy of the css files before commiting - but not really a big deal.
930: [21:14:55] <ss23> Not sure if it's incompetence or just "I don't care"
931: [21:15:47] <ss23> Peavers: I don't know if they'll let you or anything, but the only thing I can offer is just asking them if they can do that for you. Deploynaut has mechansims for running post/pre deployment tasks, e.g. composer install, etc, so you can add it there, just you'll have to check if they'll *let* you
932: [21:16:32] <Peavers> Doesn't sound like its worth upsetting John over lol
933: [21:17:05] <Peavers> Would mean I'd need to commit all my scss files which would prob be more work than just the single css file
934: [21:17:16] <Zauberfisch> Peavers: no, designer wants that paticular font
935: [21:17:45] <Peavers> I got a design breif back from a designer the other day, I didn't like the font so I just changed it. Didn't even ask anyone.
936: [21:17:53] <Peavers> Come at me designers.
937: [21:18:10] <Peavers> The busniess owner won't even notice
938: [21:18:34] <ss23> 10:19:42 < Peavers> I got a design breif back from a designer the other day, I didn't like the font so I just changed it. Didn't even ask anyone.
939: [21:18:44] <Zauberfisch> cant do that, designer is rather picky about it, and lives next door
940: [21:18:44] <ss23> lol
941: [21:18:45] <ss23> FIRED.
942: [21:19:01] <Peavers> We paid ours a lot of money, still just changed it, still don't care.
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946: [21:20:48] <Peavers> Oh simon_w you'd be happy to know your login button works just as expected... - Finally tested it...
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948: [21:21:28] <simon_w> Yay
949: [21:21:44] <Peavers> Did you/someone security audit the code for it?
950: [21:21:53] <simon_w> Well, I didn't
951: [21:22:05] <Peavers> SS did a code review though yeah?
952: [21:22:11] <Peavers> ...surely?
953: [21:22:13] <simon_w> I think so?
954: [21:22:18] * ss23 looks around
955: [21:22:20] <simon_w> They were supposed to
956: [21:22:29] <Peavers> Yeah I'll assume they would have
957: [21:22:52] <Peavers> We're getting asked what security testing we need to do on our instance - I said none...?
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959: [21:24:48] <simon_w> Well, I did a bit of testing dodgy data
960: [21:25:00] <simon_w> And SAML's set up to need the cert to match
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962: [21:25:30] <Peavers> I'm sure it will be fine
963: [21:25:44] <Peavers> there isn't any sensitive information behind it, just user manuals for internal software....
964: [21:26:01] <Peavers> Not even sure why its protected in the first place to be honest (I came on halfway through the project)
965: [21:26:20] <simon_w> Because government
966: [21:26:40] <Peavers> Its not even for government users though lol
967: [21:26:44] <Peavers> its for our vendors..
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969: [21:29:53] <Pyromanik> it's finally come up, 4.6, 10km east
970: [21:30:00] <Pyromanik> east! lol mobiusnz
971: [21:30:02] <Pyromanik> go figure eh
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973: [21:31:21] <spronk> dang
974: [21:31:23] <mobiusnz> weird
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976: [21:31:39] <Pyromanik> 10:03 < Peavers> is _config.php completely depreciated as in no longer works now?
977: [21:31:52] <Pyromanik> nah coz can't run functions from yaml.
978: [21:32:33] <guzzlefry> Clone of 'git://github.com/project/sapphire.git' into submodule path 'framework' failed <--- should I care? :P
979: [21:32:45] <guzzlefry> That's just for testing afaik, right?
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981: [21:33:37] <Pyromanik> 10:12 < Avroceptyr> This sentence made me weep tears of sadness this morning: "Q. How do you teach web developers about hardware? A. You don't. You teach hardware about web developers."
982: [21:34:05] <UncleCheese> Pyromanik: you guys just got some shakes, aye?
983: [21:34:08] <Pyromanik> because people think 'web developer' means the kind of folks who use wordderp and read smashing mag all day and think that object oriented is some new amazing shit.
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985: [21:34:52] <AlphaCactus> oooo, what is OOP?! ahem I mean, Object oriented?
986: [21:35:58] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: yeh
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989: [21:36:37] <Pyromanik> ha AlphaCactus
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991: [21:36:55] <Pyromanik> yeh, people don't realise there's a large difference between a web developer and a web designer than can do development.
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993: [21:37:16] <Pyromanik> the former knows all about webservers. The latter knows about cpanel.
994: [21:37:18] <Pyromanik> etc.
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998: [21:38:29] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/newzealand/2013p737471
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1000: [21:38:51] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: heh, you used to do what nhorstmeier is doing.
1001: [21:39:26] <UncleCheese> leaving the chat room?
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1006: [21:40:54] <AlphaCactus> Pyromanik: agreed
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1017: [21:45:25] <ss23> >OSX
1018: [21:45:27] <ss23> >no free
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1020: [21:45:34] <ss23> nhorstmeier: Please fix your connection, you keep joining and parting
1021: [21:45:42] <ss23> nhorstme_: That acconunt too!
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1024: [21:46:52] <Peavers> Into Mobys new album.
1025: [21:47:02] <Peavers> Just thought I'd share though
1026: [21:47:11] <Peavers> that*
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1028: [21:47:16] <ss23> RAWR
1029: [21:47:19] <ss23> NO EXCUSES
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1032: [21:47:26] * ss23 rawrs more
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1035: [21:48:06] <ss23> At first I was going to do the fancy "pls fix ur connection"
1036: [21:48:10] <ss23> But I can't recall it off heart
1037: [21:48:25] <Pyromanik> lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net needs to sort their shit out
1038: [21:48:38] <Peavers> Just hide join/parts messages in chat = problem solved.
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1040: [21:48:59] <simon_w> But think about the poor ss-log!
1041: [21:49:20] <Peavers> I care not for ss23/ss-log
1042: [21:49:21] <simon_w> http://logs.simon.geek.nz/index.php?date=2013-10-01#log_1060504 and scroll down
1043: [21:49:36] <simon_w> Oh, ss23 doesn't worry me, but ss-log is all <3
1044: [21:49:41] <ss23> :<
1045: [21:50:00] <ss23> I have a page that I *presume* has an infinite loop somewhere, but it's in the CMS editing the error happens .e.g /admin/getitem?ID=202&ajax=1
1046: [21:50:06] <ss23> How to figure out where it is?
1047: [21:50:16] <simon_w> var_dump
1048: [21:50:21] <ss23> Where?
1049: [21:50:27] <simon_w> Everywhere!
1050: [21:50:29] <ss23> lol
1051: [21:50:41] <ss23> I had the same idea, but SilverStripe isn't exactly *small* to try find it...
1052: [21:52:56] <simon_w> You'll get used to it
1053: [21:53:18] <ss23> What the *fuck*
1054: [21:53:21] <guzzlefry> "Request exceeded the limit of 10 internal redirects due to probable configuration error."
1055: [21:53:26] <ss23> UserDefinedForm... on that AJAX request...
1056: [21:53:31] <guzzlefry> Is 10 enough for SilverStripe? :P
1057: [21:53:37] <ss23> getitem?ID=202&ajax=1 -> LOADS EVERY SUBMITTED FORM EVER
1058: [21:53:38] <ss23> ;_;
1059: [21:53:45] <guzzlefry> I'm thinking my config is somehow broken.
1060: [21:54:00] <ss23> guzzlefry: Check the network tab to see what the redirects are
1061: [21:54:46] <ss23> >svn log
1062: [21:54:48] <ss23> >locks up terminal
1063: [21:55:29] <guzzlefry> not seeing anything. Getting a 500 error. :P
1064: [21:55:49] <simon_w> guzzlefry, SS only does one redirect
1065: [21:56:07] <guzzlefry> hrm, wonder what's going on then.
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1067: [22:01:22] <guzzlefry> http://pastie.org/8368116 Nothing looks off in there does it?
1068: [22:02:37] <Peavers> Not to steal guzzlefry thunder, but can I do something as filthy as this? http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/5249f36a37ae4
1069: [22:03:09] <Peavers> For displaying information from a dataobject in a gridfield
1070: [22:03:55] <ss23> guzzlefry: Look in the logs (apache logs) to see what it's doing, can probably good like "mod_rewrite loop"
1071: [22:04:14] <guzzlefry> ss23: access logs?
1072: [22:04:24] <guzzlefry> error logs just show...oh wiat.
1073: [22:04:34] <Peavers> guzzlefry, normally /var/log/apache
1074: [22:04:44] <guzzlefry> Use 'LogLevel debug' to get a backtrace.
1075: [22:04:46] <guzzlefry> maybe that? :P
1076: [22:06:08] <ss23> Yeha, might need to crank it up
1077: [22:06:53] * guzzlefry puts on his sunglasses.
1078: [22:07:19] <guzzlefry> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6as8oVcuM
1079: [22:09:35] <guzzlefry> so, single request: http://pastie.org/8368138
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1082: [22:11:46] <guzzlefry> No clue what to make of that.
1083: [22:14:04] <pippy_> I've noticed there's a bug in silverstripe 3.* wysiwyg editor: class names get convertied to lowercase
1084: [22:14:19] <pippy_> makes me want to change my naming convention from lowerCamelCase to lowercase
1085: [22:14:25] <pippy_> for class names
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1089: [22:18:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/11983514
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1095: [22:29:25] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/compare/d963eac0a60d...a68e0ba36541
1096: [22:29:25] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-framework/builds/11983544
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1100: [22:34:25] <guzzlefry> Are database data types given default values? false for Boolean in this instance.
1101: [22:35:17] * pippy_ quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
1102: [22:35:34] <simon_w> Well, they're usually given either null or the 0 value for the type depending on if it can be null or not
1103: [22:36:55] <guzzlefry> ah
1104: [22:37:17] <guzzlefry> simon_w, dependent on the RDBMS's defaults then?
1105: [22:42:54] <mobiusnz> hah
1106: [22:42:55] <mobiusnz> http://info.geonet.org.nz/display/quake/2013/10/01/Missed+Christchurch+quake
1107: [22:45:10] <ss23> lol mobiusnz
1108: [22:45:15] <ss23> Glitch!
1109: [22:45:22] <ss23> Of course, the websites I write would *never* have a bug like that
1110: [22:45:35] <mobiusnz> I don't think it was the website's fault
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1112: [22:48:46] <EasyCo> simon_w: Morning!
1113: [22:49:01] <ss23> So when I went to a clients office the other day, the lady at the reception complimented me on my writing~ :D
1114: [22:49:03] <EasyCo> With 12 mins to go
1115: [22:49:26] <ss23> lol EasyCo XD
1116: [22:49:27] <guzzlefry> ss23: good job!
1117: [22:50:03] <EasyCo> Can anybody clarify what the hell setRightTitle and setLeftTitle on the Formfield class is all about?
1118: [22:50:12] <EasyCo> I see setRightTitle is for the label
1119: [22:50:45] <EasyCo> But whats this LeftTile mumbo jump
1120: [22:50:49] <EasyCo> jumbo
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1122: [22:51:56] <ss23> EasyCo: No idea...
1123: [22:51:58] <EasyCo> Actually setTitle does the label it seems
1124: [22:52:05] <ss23> EasyCo: It scared the crap out of me when I tried it :O
1125: [22:52:09] <ss23> I just gave up
1126: [22:52:34] <EasyCo> The whole form handling confuses me
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1129: [23:06:08] <Colin[pi]> morning!
1130: [23:06:19] <Colin[pi]> now that I've finished breaking bad, I can reenter the chat :D
1131: [23:07:06] <UncleCheese> SO GOOD
1132: [23:07:15] <UncleCheese> i couldn't sleep last night
1133: [23:07:31] <Colin[pi]> ss23 started talking about the last episode yesty before I watched it, and I was like ABANDON CHAT ABANDON CHAT ABANDON CHAT
1134: [23:07:47] <EasyCo> Australia… leading the Breaking Bad pirating. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-01/breaking-bad-finale-draws-record-ratings-as-australia-tops-ille/4990252
1135: [23:07:58] <guzzlefry> Guys, how do I get the left label thingy in the CMS for checkboxes?
1136: [23:08:13] <UncleCheese> yeah, ss23 is a dick
1137: [23:08:14] <Colin[pi]> lol EasyCo, doesn't surprise me at all
1138: [23:08:34] <EasyCo> Doesn't surprise me either.
1139: [23:08:43] <EasyCo> I never have an issue with buying what I want to watch.
1140: [23:08:54] <EasyCo> But I want it now, not days or weeks later
1141: [23:09:20] <EasyCo> Nor do I want to pay for satellite TV and watch just one channel for 1 or 2 shows a week.
1142: [23:09:28] <Colin[pi]> yeah this is what they don't seem to be able to grasp
1143: [23:09:49] <Colin[pi]> if I can get it right now at the same time as everyone else, in good quality, for good price, I'll buy it
1144: [23:09:56] <guzzlefry> CBS/ABC whatever network doesn't have streaming?
1145: [23:10:18] <EasyCo> I paid for the last Game of Thrones season on iTunes
1146: [23:10:56] <Pyromanik> Australia had the biggest number of illegal downloads with 18 per cent, despite the show being screened on pay television.
1147: [23:11:03] <Pyromanik> being screened on pay television
1148: [23:11:07] <UncleCheese> i'm sure i'm just preaching to the choir, here, but i'll reiterate that i'd love to pay for the service that illegal sites provide me for free
1149: [23:11:08] <Pyromanik> pay television
1150: [23:11:09] <Pyromanik> pay
1151: [23:11:10] <UncleCheese> unfortunately, that doesn't exist
1152: [23:11:12] <Pyromanik> PAY
1153: [23:11:16] <EasyCo> and the video kept stopping mid-way complaining about my thunderbolt->HDMI cable not properly supporting copyright protection technologies...
1154: [23:11:22] <Colin[pi]> pay tv sucks nuts
1155: [23:11:33] <UncleCheese> for me, it's not about saving money
1156: [23:11:33] <Colin[pi]> I'd want it for like 3 channels, so not worth it
1157: [23:11:39] <UncleCheese> it's that the service is just not available
1158: [23:11:41] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: but it is for many.
1159: [23:11:42] <UncleCheese> and that's so sad
1160: [23:11:54] <Colin[pi]> plus I want to watch stuff when I want
1161: [23:11:59] <EasyCo> Pyromanik: You need a whole package with a bunch of shit you don't watch.
1162: [23:12:02] <Pyromanik> and yeah, in places like NZ, that ep won't screen for a while, usually
1163: [23:12:13] <Pyromanik> EasyCo: we have the same deal here with Sky
1164: [23:12:14] <UncleCheese> well, when people say they can't afford TV, don't you wonder if maybe the problem is that TV forces you to buy all kinds of crap that you don't want?
1165: [23:12:24] <Pyromanik> basically
1166: [23:12:28] <UncleCheese> 85% of your Sky bill is for crap that you're not using
1167: [23:12:34] <Pyromanik> Coporations so f'n slow to click on
1168: [23:12:44] <UncleCheese> if there were an à la carte service, like project free tv, I'd use it
1169: [23:12:46] <Pyromanik> BUT IF WE GIVE THEM VIDEO FILES THEY CAN KEEP THEM!
1170: [23:12:48] <Colin[pi]> ding ding ding UC, I wouldn't watch most of the pay tv crap
1171: [23:13:00] <Pyromanik> and it's like ROFL WRONG QUESTIONS.
1172: [23:13:06] <EasyCo> UncleCheese: Bang on! I'd pay for the server I get from PB :_
1173: [23:13:06] <UncleCheese> because project free tv, as amazing as it is, kinda sucks, too
1174: [23:13:11] <EasyCo> *service
1175: [23:13:21] <Pyromanik> if you give them video files they'll PAY for them, as opposed to not paying a thing.
1176: [23:13:26] <UncleCheese> if it were done legit, with a slick UI like Netflix, they'd make bank
1177: [23:13:33] <EasyCo> Do you guys have netflix in NZ?
1178: [23:13:33] <UncleCheese> but the damn production companies can't get out of their own way
1179: [23:13:37] <UncleCheese> umm
1180: [23:13:39] <UncleCheese> no
1181: [23:13:43] <UncleCheese> you have to do tricky shit to get it
1182: [23:13:58] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: rutts of trying to do old business in new worlds.
1183: [23:14:03] <EasyCo> Yah, here as well.
1184: [23:14:05] <atmos> It's not tricky at all
1185: [23:14:13] <UncleCheese> it's not tricky for anyone in this room
1186: [23:14:17] <UncleCheese> it's tricky for 99% of the population
1187: [23:14:22] <Pyromanik> "you watch what we tell you" as opposed to "what (and pay) for only what we want"
1188: [23:14:24] <atmos> yeah I guess
1189: [23:14:25] <Pyromanik> err, you
1190: [23:14:42] <Colin[pi]> why do you think Rupert Murdoch heavily influenced the election here?
1191: [23:14:44] <UncleCheese> communication is becoming more and more asynchronous
1192: [23:14:54] <Colin[pi]> because he doesn't want the Labor FTTH NBN
1193: [23:14:54] <UncleCheese> we don't call, we text. we don't buy albums, we buy songs
1194: [23:15:00] <EasyCo> I'm in remote 'straya so even if Netflix was available I don't think I'd be able to use it with my shitty wireless.
1195: [23:15:01] <Colin[pi]> threatens his dying pay tv empire
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1201: [23:15:09] <UncleCheese> we don't want to be in front of the TV at 8:00 and sit through commercials
1202: [23:15:13] <UncleCheese> we want to watch it whenever we want
1203: [23:15:19] <Colin[pi]> spot on
1204: [23:15:20] <UncleCheese> media companies are fighting a losing battle
1205: [23:15:21] <EasyCo> When do we want it?
1206: [23:15:26] <atmos> I use netflix all the time - but I'm thinking of switching to Hulu+
1207: [23:15:41] <UncleCheese> is there anything worth watching on Hulu?
1208: [23:15:57] <atmos> UncleCheese: there is too many shows to list
1209: [23:16:02] <atmos> are*
1210: [23:16:07] <UncleCheese> wow
1211: [23:16:09] <UncleCheese> mad men?
1212: [23:16:10] <Pyromanik> also with things like social media and shit these days... watching an ep even just a few hours delay from another country or timezone is unacceptable.
1213: [23:16:30] <atmos> UncleCheese: not sure, I know that's on Netflix though
1214: [23:16:39] <UncleCheese> not the latest seeason
1215: [23:16:42] <UncleCheese> i had to heist that
1216: [23:16:48] <atmos> probably not now
1217: [23:17:41] <atmos> But I mean, I just make up Google accounts for the UnblockUS DNS and 1 month Netflix trials. Had Netflix now for 4 months on free trials :3
1218: [23:17:55] <Colin[pi]> diabolical how itunes charged BB viewers twice for season 5 too, though that wasn't apples fault and they refunded them
1219: [23:18:13] <atmos> Colin[pi]: heh yeah that was crazy
1220: [23:18:36] <Colin[pi]> yeah a season 5 pass really should cover, um, season 5
1221: [23:18:37] <atmos> goddamn that last ep was good
1222: [23:18:50] <UncleCheese> atmos: it's like 5 bucks a month.. don't be that guy
1223: [23:19:03] <UncleCheese> support the common good!
1224: [23:19:24] <atmos> UncleCheese: I don't have a US credit card so I actually can't anyway
1225: [23:19:32] <UncleCheese> oh?
1226: [23:19:42] <UncleCheese> weird that it would require one.. it's only used by foreigners
1227: [23:20:14] <atmos> that was when I last got asked to pay, I couldn't use my credit card
1228: [23:20:29] <UncleCheese> oh
1229: [23:20:32] <UncleCheese> i had that happen too
1230: [23:20:37] <UncleCheese> unotelly is the one
1231: [23:20:43] <UncleCheese> they don't care where your credit card is
1232: [23:20:49] <atmos> hmmm
1233: [23:21:23] <atmos> to be honest, now that BB is over, all I watched was Orange is the new Black and Star Trek - so it's kinda redundant to me now
1234: [23:21:44] <Colin[pi]> what can I watch now? :(
1235: [23:21:58] <atmos> Walking Dead is on soon right?
1236: [23:22:07] <atmos> which weirdly is free to us, and up to date in NZ
1237: [23:23:35] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: Weeds?
1238: [23:23:39] <Colin[pi]> what's it about?
1239: [23:23:40] <atmos> has anyone here NOT seen the BB final?
1240: [23:23:46] <UncleCheese> same plot, sort of
1241: [23:23:50] <UncleCheese> very, very good
1242: [23:23:52] <Colin[pi]> oh really? lol
1243: [23:24:02] <mobiusnz> yeah, I haven't watched past season 2 yet
1244: [23:24:06] <UncleCheese> Hot suburban Mom loses her husband to cancer (i think)
1245: [23:24:16] <mobiusnz> fell out of my interests for a while
1246: [23:24:17] <UncleCheese> any she's having a hard time making ends meet, so she tries selling weed
1247: [23:24:19] <EasyCo> Orange is the new Black is pretty good in a weird kinda way
1248: [23:24:24] <UncleCheese> and she gets really good at it
1249: [23:24:34] <UncleCheese> and it follows a similar path as breaking bad
1250: [23:24:37] <Colin[pi]> excellent I will have a look, thanks :)
1251: [23:24:41] <UncleCheese> gets further and further up the chain
1252: [23:24:41] <Colin[pi]> BB is the only series I've watched with my gf that hasn't made her fall asleep
1253: [23:24:48] <atmos> House of Cards is supposed to be pretty good - netflix exclusive though
1254: [23:25:02] <UncleCheese> weeds is a little less dark than BB.. and more accessible to women, because of the strong female lead
1255: [23:25:06] <UncleCheese> she's a great, great character
1256: [23:25:16] <Colin[pi]> nice sounds like something my gf will like
1257: [23:25:38] <Colin[pi]> she liked the violence in BB, she's brazilian
1258: [23:25:38] <UncleCheese> very good show.. give it at least a season.. :)
1259: [23:25:40] <Colin[pi]> lol
1260: [23:25:42] <UncleCheese> HA
1261: [23:25:49] <Colin[pi]> she's like "KILL HIM, KILL HIM!!!"
1262: [23:25:50] <Colin[pi]> hahaa
1263: [23:25:55] <EasyCo> Haha
1264: [23:25:55] <atmos> my gf is obsessed with Orange is the new Black
1265: [23:26:26] <EasyCo> and mine with Downton Abbey :)
1266: [23:26:39] <Colin[pi]> atmos: it's a comedy isn't it?
1267: [23:26:45] <atmos> Colin[pi]: yes and no
1268: [23:26:51] <EasyCo> But I don't mind it, it's actually pretty good
1269: [23:27:10] <atmos> Hemlock Grove is another good one, again netflix excl
1270: [23:31:44] <UncleCheese> Colin[pi]: Mad Men is fantastic, but it literally takes three seasons before you're really hooked
1271: [23:32:02] <UncleCheese> until then you're just like, yeah, i could go for another one
1272: [23:32:28] <Colin[pi]> hmm dunno if my gf has the patience for that
1273: [23:32:47] <atmos> Boardwalk Empire?
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1279: [23:33:50] <longtips> madmen is like home and away for ... god knows
1280: [23:34:01] <longtips> something not me
1281: [23:34:15] <longtips> the cute decorations wore off pretty fast, maybe season 2 or 3
1282: [23:34:54] <longtips> hey whoa, i didn't realise what channel this was, disregard me
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1293: [23:44:21] <ss23> 12:09:28 < Colin[pi]> ss23 started talking about the last episode yesty before I watched it, and I was like ABANDON CHAT ABANDON CHAT ABANDON CHAT
1294: [23:44:23] <ss23> 12:10:09 < UncleCheese> yeah, ss23 is a dick
1295: [23:44:26] <ss23> :<
1296: [23:44:29] <ss23> I DIDN'T EVEN SPOIL IT
1297: [23:44:35] <UncleCheese> yes you did!
1298: [23:44:43] <ss23> NO I DIDN'T
1299: [23:44:44] <UncleCheese> "speaking of hit men…."
1300: [23:44:45] <ss23> Well
1301: [23:44:49] <ss23> Apart from Waltmen having cancer
1302: [23:45:35] <Colin[pi]> I didn't see that, I just saw ss23 say something about breaking bad and insta Ctrl+F4 lol
1303: [23:45:51] <atmos> I've found keeping BB spoilers to myself almost impossible :<
1304: [23:47:23] <ss23> UncleCheese: Because one of you mentioned hit men!
1305: [23:47:27] <ss23> As I said, I hadn't *seen* it :P
1306: [23:47:33] <UncleCheese> bullshit
1307: [23:47:36] <Colin[pi]> LOL
1308: [23:47:37] <ss23> o.o
1309: [23:47:38] <simon_w> Everybody dies!
1310: [23:47:41] <ss23> Do you think I have seen it? :S
1311: [23:47:48] <Colin[pi]> IT WAS ALL A DREAM
1312: [23:47:53] <ss23> XD
1313: [23:48:20] <atmos> Walt jnr eats Marie
1314: [23:48:29] <UncleCheese> it was all a dream
1315: [23:48:35] <UncleCheese> walt died in the car, frozen to death
1316: [23:48:53] <Colin[pi]> hahaha
1317: [23:49:05] <Colin[pi]> HUELL DIES OF STARVATION
1318: [23:49:08] <UncleCheese> anyone else pick up on the allegory with jesse and the wooden box?
1319: [23:49:16] <atmos> UncleCheese: yeah
1320: [23:49:21] <Colin[pi]> UC: yeah
1321: [23:49:23] <UncleCheese> i had forgotten about that
1322: [23:49:34] <EasyCo> No, I missed that
1323: [23:49:35] <UncleCheese> seems to support the theory that it was all a dream
1324: [23:49:40] <EasyCo> What was it?
1325: [23:49:46] * simon_w changed the topic to 'Welcome to #silverstripe discussion - IRC logs available: http://ss.org.nz/logs || Ask your question, don't ask about asking your question || 1st of Oct 2013: Security release for 3.0. See http://ss.org.nz/3.0.7 || 26th of Sept 2013: We have security releases for 2.4 and 3.1. See http://ss.org.nz/2.4.13 and http://ss.org.nz/3.1.0rc3 || Development mailing list: http://ss.org.nz/ss-dev'
1326: [23:50:21] <ss23> It's security releases all the way down :O
1327: [23:50:40] <spronk> <ballmer dance> SECURITY SECURITY SECURITY SECURITY SECURITY!
1328: [23:51:04] <simon_w> So yeah, all you people on 3.0 should get 3.0.7
1329: [23:51:18] <ss23> lol
1330: [23:51:24] <ss23> that security release is post-auth XSS
1331: [23:51:25] <ss23> who cares
1332: [23:51:26] <ss23> :P
1333: [23:51:33] <spronk> lulz
1334: [23:51:41] <spronk> who found it?
1335: [23:52:01] <ss23> Some weird russian researchers or something who published advisories instead of contacting us
1336: [23:52:04] <ss23> >.<
1337: [23:52:23] <spronk> haha
1338: [23:52:26] <spronk> Frussians.
1339: [23:52:33] <ss23> http://www.vulnerability-lab.com/get_content.php?id=1084
1340: [23:52:37] <Colin[pi]> in soviet russia....
1341: [23:52:45] * spronk goes back to building his billing tool in laravel 4
1342: [23:59:45] <Colin[pi]> ugh chrome inspector you sux

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