#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 4 August 2013

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19: [02:09:13] <willr_> Good to see @chillu back, Lot's of Github notifications!
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22: [02:25:04] <ChaBuku> Hi
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58: [09:04:49] <simon_w|air> Changed the layout of the list of dates for the logs. Thoughts? http://logs.simon.geek.nz
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60: [09:38:36] <willr_> datey
61: [09:38:55] <willr_> would be cool to see stats for each day.. :)
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63: [09:45:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#37 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 00b82a3 : Ingo Schommer): The build failed.
64: [09:45:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/commit/00b82a3513f7
65: [09:45:58] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9826188
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68: [09:49:30] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-cms#43 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 516bfa1 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
69: [09:49:30] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-cms/compare/436899adbff7^...516bfa170746
70: [09:49:30] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-cms/builds/9826200
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73: [09:58:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#38 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - a521246 : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
74: [09:58:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/00b82a3513f7...a521246b34f7
75: [09:58:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9826432
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78: [10:04:31] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#39 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 89bd880 : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
79: [10:04:31] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/a521246b34f7...89bd880eae4f
80: [10:04:31] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9826499
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83: [10:08:20] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#470 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 970f541 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
84: [10:08:20] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/commit/970f541de1a8
85: [10:08:20] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/9826550
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88: [10:09:11] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#40 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 3850c67 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
89: [10:09:11] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/2427d57fa546^...3850c6756fd7
90: [10:09:11] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9826542
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94: [10:29:50] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-cms#44 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 076c9a3 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
95: [10:29:50] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-cms/compare/516bfa170746...076c9a33a278
96: [10:29:50] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-cms/builds/9826935
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99: [10:35:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-cms#45 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 3f118ef : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
100: [10:35:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-cms/compare/076c9a33a278...3f118ef08f2c
101: [10:35:33] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-cms/builds/9827036
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104: [10:40:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/silverstripe-cms#473 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 07cccc8 : Ingo Schommer): The build has errored.
105: [10:40:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/compare/970f541de1a8...07cccc8e9524
106: [10:40:54] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/silverstripe-cms/builds/9827091
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109: [10:42:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#41 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 0ad71f6 : Ingo Schommer): The build was broken.
110: [10:42:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/89bd880eae4f...0ad71f6441fe
111: [10:42:34] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9827062
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114: [10:47:29] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#42 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 06ec070 : Ingo Schommer): The build was broken.
115: [10:47:29] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/3850c6756fd7...06ec07076ca7
116: [10:47:29] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9827173
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120: [10:51:06] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-cms#46 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 07cccc8 : Ingo Schommer): The build passed.
121: [10:51:06] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-cms/compare/32af5336c341^...07cccc8e9524
122: [10:51:06] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-cms/builds/9827190
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126: [11:08:57] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#43 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 8356530 : Ingo Schommer): The build is still failing.
127: [11:08:57] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/0ad71f6441fe...8356530094fb
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131: [11:17:48] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#44 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - 6b630b5 : Ingo Schommer): The build is still failing.
132: [11:17:48] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/06ec07076ca7...6b630b5ab825
133: [11:17:48] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9827675
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136: [11:28:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#45 (pulls/transifex-3.1 - f7e8af6 : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
137: [11:28:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/6b630b5ab825...f7e8af6c1ac0
138: [11:28:13] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9827823
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141: [11:32:46] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/silverstripe-framework#46 (pulls/transifex-3.0 - 37ab4ff : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
142: [11:32:46] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-framework/compare/8356530094fb...37ab4ff674b1
143: [11:32:46] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/silverstripe-framework/builds/9827850
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147: [11:39:17] <howardgrigg> hey does anyone know how to set 'paste as plain text' on by default in tinymce?
148: [11:39:57] <howardgrigg> I think it's a setting on the 'paste' plugin for tinymce I'm just not sure how to set it
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158: [12:22:33] <Urug_> hi
159: [12:33:00] <Shrike_Finland> Hello guys, what is proper way of handling external link on template so, the it does not print your site URL at the beginning?
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161: [13:11:27] <ss23> Shrike_Finland: If you put it as a proper link, like http://www.externallink.com, I don't think it'll replace?
162: [13:27:02] <Urug_> help needed http://www.silverstripe.org/data-model-questions/show/24669
163: [13:27:42] <osterlaus> hi there!
164: [13:28:20] <osterlaus> is anybody already using silverstripe on php 5.4?
165: [13:38:51] <Shrike_Finland> ss23: I have externallink as varchar on db and call it as <a href="$ExternalLink"> on template. That will print also your site url at the beginning of the URL.
166: [13:40:30] <ss23> Shrike_Finland: I don't think that's Silverstripe doing that, more liekly, it'll be your browser, I would expect. What output do you get? That is, what does it look like rendered? <a href="http://yourlink.com"> or what?
167: [13:43:15] <Shrike_Finland> ss23: it will render <a href="http://yoursite.com/ExternalLink">
168: [13:43:31] <Shrike_Finland> I do not know why it does this...
169: [13:52:18] <ss23> Shrike_Finland: Hmm, that seems strange... I do not know why it does it either, sorry. :<
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187: [18:49:40] <simon_w> Shrike_Finland, that's because $ExternalLink doesn't start with a protocol
188: [18:50:02] <simon_w> anyway, use $ExternalLink.URL
189: [18:50:40] <Shrike_Finland> Oh, so tiny "mistake" :) Thanx simon_w!
190: [18:53:00] <Shrike_Finland> Btw, simon_w: why default value in padded image background is #000 these days? I think docs said, that default is white (#fff), but I'm getting black. Error on docs?
191: [18:53:34] <simon_w> Because someone didn't match the default values properly
192: [18:54:42] <simon_w> Also, because you need to upgrade
193: [18:55:33] <Shrike_Finland> really? Fixed in latest dev-version? Using 3.1b3 at the moment.
194: [18:55:57] <simon_w> Yes, and I gathered as much
195: [18:56:04] <simon_w> Since that's the only version it's broken in
196: [18:56:09] <Shrike_Finland> :D
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212: [20:16:41] <micmania1> Anybody had a problem setting ShowInMenus to false by default?
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215: [20:33:31] <simon_w> Nope
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219: [20:37:22] <micmania1> Is there any reason I wouldn't be able to set it on a subclass of page?
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222: [20:52:14] <simon_w> You're setting it up wrong? You're running 3.1 and haven't flushed?
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224: [20:53:30] <SphereSilverNL> Zauberfisch: you awake?
225: [20:54:41] <Zauberfisch> yes
226: [20:55:18] <SphereSilverNL> ...
227: [20:55:31] <SphereSilverNL> my brain needs a reboot, I wanted to ask something, but I forgot :/
228: [20:56:16] <SphereSilverNL> Saw your name, thought "I need to ask him something"
229: [20:56:28] <SphereSilverNL> but my brain just shutted down
230: [20:56:33] <simon_w> You did ask him something!
231: [20:56:56] <SphereSilverNL> Besides the "awake" thingy, I wanted to ask you something else
232: [20:57:09] <SphereSilverNL> darnit, geeks and their habit of taking everything literal :P
233: [20:57:44] <simon_w> *literally :p
234: [20:58:29] <SphereSilverNL> I would look at you very angry right now, but I'm laughing, so... lol
235: [20:58:39] <SphereSilverNL> :P
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238: [21:03:39] <SphereSilverNL> https://twitter.com/betthearm/status/266916129291763713
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240: [21:09:37] <Pyromanik> Just took 5 tries to spell my first name correctly.
241: [21:09:41] <Pyromanik> FU Monday.
242: [21:09:47] <SphereSilverNL> stop drinking
243: [21:10:03] <Pyromanik> that sounds like the opposite of what I need to do :<
244: [21:10:11] <SphereSilverNL> Have a beer than
245: [21:10:36] <Pyromanik> mmm, probably Earl Grey since I'm at work
246: [21:11:02] <irogue> mornin' Pyromanik
247: [21:12:29] <Pyromanik> so funny story
248: [21:12:29] <SphereSilverNL> Have a strong Espresso than maybe Pyromanik ?
249: [21:12:44] <Pyromanik> I walked into the kitchen to make tea, and found myself standing in front of the beer fridge
250: [21:12:59] <Pyromanik> then I realised and was all "wtf am I doing here?"
251: [21:13:09] <SphereSilverNL> At least you realised :P
252: [21:13:13] <Pyromanik> g'morning irogue
253: [21:13:26] * SphereSilverNL goes to grab a coffe
254: [21:13:29] * SphereSilverNL opens fridge
255: [21:13:41] * SphereSilverNL grabs beer and walks back to his desk
256: [21:13:42] <Pyromanik> SphereSilverNL: yeah, I was like, but I don't like milk in my tea (also milk in there) and even if I could get tea from the fridge, I wouldn't, because it wouldn't be hot.
257: [21:13:50] * Pyromanik grubles
258: [21:13:54] <Pyromanik> lucky you!
259: [21:14:05] <SphereSilverNL> My boss looked at me with a face like "What the fuck are you doing?? It's 10AM!"
260: [21:14:26] <SphereSilverNL> Icetea is good. Icecoffee is better Pyromanik :P
261: [21:15:58] <Pyromanik> neg.
262: [21:16:35] <Pyromanik> I once downed 2 beers at 10am. There was photo evidence, boss was a little shocked.
263: [21:16:36] <SphereSilverNL> I'm a coffee addict ;)
264: [21:16:39] <Pyromanik> lol
265: [21:16:55] <ajmitch> beer this early on a monday?
266: [21:17:45] <SphereSilverNL> 11:17 PM Sunday evening here ;)
267: [21:17:58] <zippy__> Morning
268: [21:18:54] <Pyromanik> nah it was a tuesday
269: [21:21:21] <Pyromanik> lolftp
270: [21:24:01] <ss23> 09:16:35 < Pyromanik> I once downed 2 beers at 10am. There was photo evidence, boss was a little shocked.
271: [21:24:05] <ss23> I also did this
272: [21:24:05] <ss23> *once*
273: [21:24:25] <ss23> "Oh look, I woke up at 6am today... man I have so long till I wanna go into work. damn, I'm thirsty, I'll have some beer"
274: [21:24:34] <ss23> gets to 7am, "fuck work. I don't wanna do that today"
275: [21:25:05] <ss23> Also, fasle alarm for anyone thinking I'm at work early, I'm just IRCing before I go in today since I woke up early
276: [21:28:28] <simon_w> Four apologies for the same problem during that 24 minute phone call
277: [21:28:42] <simon_w> I guess I'm going to get more when I callback once the AU help desk is open
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280: [21:33:23] <zippy__> simon_w: Thanks for the tip with the stageChildren - worked great
281: [21:35:14] <Pyromanik> ss23: it's much worse when you go out for a big lunch with sake and then come back an try to work.
282: [21:35:22] <Pyromanik> you're just like "NOPE!"
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286: [21:46:48] <UncleCheese> does anyone know what the "from [selector]" pattern means in entwine?
287: [21:47:08] <UncleCheese> Maybe Zauberfisch?
288: [21:50:52] <Zauberfisch> nope sorry, I think I don't
289: [21:51:06] <SphereSilverNL> Hamish, I guess
290: [21:51:11] <Zauberfisch> can you post the full syntax, maybe then I know
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297: [21:56:17] <UncleCheese> Zauberfisch, something like this:
298: [21:56:18] <UncleCheese> 'from .cms-container': {
299: [21:56:18] <UncleCheese> onafterstatechange: function(e){
300: [21:56:44] <UncleCheese> even chillu doesn't know!
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306: [21:59:18] <Pyromanik> fffffff women and facebook.
307: [21:59:28] <simon_w> It's in that thread on ss-dev
308: [21:59:41] <Pyromanik> I advise that their marketing campaign is a bit of a bust because the link doesn't work.
309: [21:59:46] <Pyromanik> they all come back "works for me"
310: [21:59:51] <Pyromanik> ARE YOU LOGGED IN?
311: [22:00:27] <Pyromanik> not sure how successful your campaign will be if 50% of people are told the page doesn't exist because they're not logged in 24/7
312: [22:01:00] <Pyromanik> good times.
313: [22:02:56] <simon_w> Calling the server we're going to be hosting all the stuff we don't care about on jarjar
314: [22:03:50] <simon_w> ss23, burger fuel newtown is open now
315: [22:04:06] <simon_w> Might even be the one closest to spronk
316: [22:13:10] <UncleCheese> is that the one by countdown?
317: [22:13:31] <UncleCheese> I checked their website on friday and it doesn't come up
318: [22:18:06] <ss23> yeah, ik simon_w
319: [22:18:12] <ss23> It's a *little* far away from me
320: [22:18:33] <simon_w> UncleCheese, yes. Opened today
321: [22:18:52] <ss23> Wait what?
322: [22:18:57] <ss23> I thought it opened a few days ago?
323: [22:19:07] <ss23> It was all with the lights on and it looked like poeple were in there the other day I thought, hmmm
324: [22:19:11] <UncleCheese> i was a little bewildered when i went to their website, and it asked me to choose my location: "New Zealand / UAE / Saudi Arabia / Iraq"
325: [22:19:13] <UncleCheese> hmmph..
326: [22:19:26] <simon_w> "Good mornin Wellington, we have a new store 4 "yous". After a cook off on sat. Newtown is open cnr Adelaide Rd & John St where Countdown is"
327: [22:19:36] <ss23> Ah, a cook off
328: [22:19:38] <simon_w> UncleCheese, should be australia too
329: [22:19:45] <UncleCheese> crazy
330: [22:19:46] <ss23> idk what that is, but I presume that it's why there were people there! :D
331: [22:19:59] <simon_w> But yeah, massive hit on the arabian peninsula
332: [22:20:20] <UncleCheese> By the way.. i think they might have missed a memo somewhere along the line.. Beets do not go on burgers
333: [22:20:27] <ss23> Fact
334: [22:20:32] <ss23> Bears eat beets.
335: [22:20:33] <ss23> Bears?
336: [22:20:35] <ss23> Beets?
337: [22:20:41] <ss23> Battlestar glatica.
338: [22:21:17] <simon_w> UncleCheese, next you'll be saying that eggs don't go in burgers either
339: [22:21:36] <simon_w> Woo, time to build the forms component!
340: [22:21:40] <UncleCheese> no, that works ok.. but the beets.. wow. that's a stretch
341: [22:21:55] <UncleCheese> still the best chips (fries?) i've had so far in wellington
342: [22:22:01] <simon_w> You're doing it wrong :p
343: [22:22:42] <simon_w> chillu, had a chance to look at my PR for add ons?
344: [22:23:57] <chillu> UncleCheese: Beets totally belong on burgers. Hmmm BURGERFUEL
345: [22:24:15] <chillu> simon_w: No, sorry
346: [22:25:10] <chillu> UncleCheese: The "from <selector>" pattern in entwine is used to avoid memory leaks where you'd otherwise need to keep a reference to a DOM element around, although I can't remember specifics
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348: [22:25:47] <UncleCheese> oh, wow
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351: [22:26:44] <UncleCheese> alright.. good to know.. one of these days entwine will have proper documentation.. it seems like all the knowledge is very inequitably distributed right now
352: [22:28:05] <micmania2> I just look at the ss code and try to figure it out from there
353: [22:28:52] <UncleCheese> yeah, it's not easy
354: [22:29:03] <UncleCheese> try figuring out that "from <selector>" thing.. where do you look?
355: [22:29:14] <micmania2> yep. it seems good, I just wish it was easier to learn
356: [22:29:26] * micmania1 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
357: [22:29:37] <UncleCheese> the principle is great.. it works just the way my mind thinks
358: [22:29:58] <UncleCheese> very accessible to frontend devs, too, because they're used to the selector specificity design pattern
359: [22:29:58] <Pyromanik> Dickcount domains, not even once.
360: [22:30:15] <simon_w> <simon_w|air> Changed the layout of the list of dates for the logs. Thoughts? http://logs.simon.geek.nz
361: [22:30:28] <Pyromanik> ss23: wtf
362: [22:30:39] <Pyromanik> countdown is like 1/2 a block from your place!
363: [22:30:41] * simon_w should stop asking for feedback late on a Sunday
364: [22:30:44] <Pyromanik> 5 min walk
365: [22:31:29] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: yeah, they spread to Dubai & Sydney before they came to the South Island.
366: [22:31:45] <Pyromanik> hence all the halal meat ads they have.
367: [22:32:12] <ss23> Pyromanik: :3
368: [22:32:14] <ss23> 5 min walk too long!
369: [22:32:23] <ss23> Especially if you have to CARRY stuff, like when you go grocery shopping
370: [22:32:25] <ss23> and btw, it's not 5 mins
371: [22:32:31] <ss23> lets see how long google maps says it is :D
372: [22:32:35] <Pyromanik> also, beetroot and egg on burger is best
373: [22:32:54] <UncleCheese> so nasty
374: [22:33:05] <ss23> oh yeah, google says it's 9, 11, or 12 mins
375: [22:33:09] <ss23> That's almost DOUBLE what you said, Pyromanik
376: [22:33:10] <ss23> DOUBLE!
377: [22:33:18] <ss23> So unless you manage to sprint the whole way there, not 5 mins
378: [22:33:19] <micmania2> beetroot on a burger is just wrong!
379: [22:33:19] <ss23> boom, busted.
380: [22:33:56] <spronk> man
381: [22:34:00] <spronk> you guys and your talk about burgers
382: [22:34:02] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: don't knock it until you've tried it!
383: [22:34:07] <Pyromanik> like meat in a pie!
384: [22:34:30] <Pyromanik> ss23: google compensates for people with walking frames.
385: [22:34:40] <spronk> i could murder a BioFuel right now
386: [22:34:47] <UncleCheese> i did try it.. couldn't finish
387: [22:34:50] <Pyromanik> it took me about 5 mins. Since it's around the corner from that bar, that took us about 3 mins to get to.
388: [22:35:02] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: D: something wrong with you man :(
389: [22:35:06] <spronk> UncleCheese: it's an acquired taste
390: [22:35:10] <Pyromanik> nonsense! it'
391: [22:35:14] <Pyromanik> s an awesome taste
392: [22:35:15] <Pyromanik> :P
393: [22:35:15] <spronk> mandatory for citizenship. :P
394: [22:35:27] <spronk> or residency
395: [22:35:28] <Pyromanik> nah there are some weird people who don't like kiwiburgers
396: [22:35:30] <spronk> or whatever the hell we call it
397: [22:35:30] <UncleCheese> um, you guys worry about your chip butties and your meat pies.. leave the burgers to the americans
398: [22:35:36] * spronk doesn't like kiwiburgers
399: [22:35:44] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: but burgers in america are just meat and cheese
400: [22:35:45] <spronk> mainly because they're fucking plastic
401: [22:35:50] <Pyromanik> and nothing.
402: [22:36:02] <Pyromanik> spronk: haha, yeah, but I mean the ingredient list
403: [22:36:08] <spronk> indeed
404: [22:36:18] <Pyromanik> although I have to say, avo and mango is a bit weird in a burger
405: [22:36:21] <Pyromanik> doesn't stop me eating it.
406: [22:36:24] <UncleCheese> you're probably impugning all American burgers based on BK and McDonald's
407: [22:36:31] <Pyromanik> doesn't actually taste bad
408: [22:36:36] <spronk> UncleCheese: aren't they?
409: [22:36:43] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: well, yes and no. Also mostly movies.
410: [22:36:52] <ss23> it took me about 5 mins. Since it's around the corner from that bar, that took us about 3 mins to get to.
411: [22:36:57] <UncleCheese> those aren't burgers.. that's not even food
412: [22:36:58] <Pyromanik> of course they're not all going to be like that
413: [22:36:59] <ss23> I would accept maybe ~7 mins if you walk fast and don't stop
414: [22:37:02] <ss23> 5 mins, nu uh
415: [22:37:04] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: agreed :P
416: [22:37:15] <Pyromanik> ss23: walk faster
417: [22:37:16] <UncleCheese> it's so embarrassing living here and seeing those places
418: [22:37:21] <UncleCheese> i just want to be like, "Yeah, sorry about that."
419: [22:37:29] <Pyromanik> haha
420: [22:37:32] <Pyromanik> meh
421: [22:37:34] <Pyromanik> it happens.
422: [22:37:41] <UncleCheese> but then i see how many people eat there, and i stop myself
423: [22:37:47] <Pyromanik> can't stop the corporate steamroller!
424: [22:37:52] <Pyromanik> yeh
425: [22:37:56] <UncleCheese> right
426: [22:38:11] <Pyromanik> everyone knows it's bad, but everyone still eats it
427: [22:38:13] <UncleCheese> and in NZ, a $5 lunch has a certain unique appeal
428: [22:38:39] <UncleCheese> the thing is, believe it or not, the menu here is much healthier than in the US
429: [22:38:45] <Pyromanik> because almost ain't nothing in this country $5 for a semi filling meal
430: [22:38:46] <UncleCheese> and the portions are considerably smaller
431: [22:38:53] <Pyromanik> UncleCheese: We are aware :P
432: [22:38:57] <Pyromanik> it's all local produce too
433: [22:38:58] <spronk> mm
434: [22:39:02] <UncleCheese> you're kidding
435: [22:39:04] <spronk> kudos to maccas for that, at least
436: [22:39:10] <Pyromanik> NZ beef, NZ tomatoes, NZ lettuce, potatoes, etc.
437: [22:39:12] <UncleCheese> sweet.. KFC for lunch today
438: [22:39:15] <spronk> their beef is actually quite good, esp in the angus burgers
439: [22:39:19] <spronk> oh
440: [22:39:21] <spronk> KFC..
441: [22:39:26] <spronk> pretty sure they don't use real chickens
442: [22:39:28] <Pyromanik> KFC the worst of all tbh
443: [22:39:38] <halkyon> BurgerFuel FTW :D
444: [22:39:41] <Pyromanik> but I do confess to eating it on the odd occasion
445: [22:39:44] <Pyromanik> maybe once a year
446: [22:39:45] <spronk> wouldn't be surprised if they've invented a way to grow miscellaneous white meat
447: [22:39:47] <UncleCheese> Did you know they changed the name from Kentucky Fried Chicken to KFC because there wasn't enough chicken in the product to justify the ""C"
448: [22:39:52] <UncleCheese> it was considered false advertising
449: [22:40:02] <Pyromanik> yeah, that's the rumour at least
450: [22:40:12] <UncleCheese> it's an urban legend. :-b
451: [22:40:28] * unsigned_ quit (Remote host closed the connection)
452: [22:40:29] <Pyromanik> but if that were true, the wouldn't be able to say "Chicken" in their actual advertisements
453: [22:40:32] <Pyromanik> yeh
454: [22:40:35] <Pyromanik> course it is.
455: [22:41:06] * spronk had BK in the weekend
456: [22:41:10] <spronk> tried their triple cheese melt thing
457: [22:41:12] <spronk> fuck it was sick
458: [22:41:16] <spronk> and not in the good way.
459: [22:41:24] <spronk> some kind of sweet tomato sauce relish thing
460: [22:42:46] <spronk> will be good when wendy's and BF open in chch
461: [22:42:57] <simon_w> Hehe, wendy's
462: [22:43:14] <spronk> those frosty things are the bawls
463: [22:43:17] <ss23> simon_w only likes the girl wendys.
464: [22:43:27] <ss23> 10:41:12 < spronk> fuck it was sick
465: [22:43:28] <ss23> 10:41:16 < spronk> and not in the good way.
466: [22:43:36] <ss23> I went to BK once and got a whopper, but with 9 patties.
467: [22:43:53] <ss23> I managed to get half way through before the fat that was dripping from it started turning hard under the burger
468: [22:44:02] <Pyromanik> wendy's is so bad.
469: [22:44:07] <ss23> by that point there was no buns left, cause all the fat had like... melted them
470: [22:44:10] <Pyromanik> it's like BK with square patties.
471: [22:44:18] <ss23> It was... not that good. Turns out BK patties are tasteless with no sauce
472: [22:44:28] <Pyromanik> ss23: most meats are.
473: [22:44:32] <halkyon> ss23: why would you torture yourself that way?
474: [22:44:36] <Pyromanik> I had a double quarter pounder in the weekend.
475: [22:44:38] <ss23> Torture?!
476: [22:44:42] <simon_w> halkyon, he's from Hamilton
477: [22:44:43] <ss23> I'd do it again :D
478: [22:44:50] <simon_w> Need some excitement in their life
479: [22:44:52] <Pyromanik> in the end I decided I had sobered up too much from when I originally decided I'd like one.
480: [22:44:53] <ss23> lol
481: [22:45:06] <ss23> simon_w: Unlike you, I could just go outside after 3pm to a bar and get excitement
482: [22:45:09] <ss23> :D
483: [22:45:13] <ss23> hahaha
484: [22:45:20] <ss23> dude, with the lemons, it did
485: [22:45:21] <Pyromanik> ROFL
486: [22:45:25] * spronk lols
487: [22:45:26] <Pyromanik> lemonade tequila
488: [22:45:30] <Pyromanik> brilliance
489: [22:45:36] <ss23> noregrets.png
490: [22:45:41] <simon_w> ss23, so can I :p Have you seen what's on this block?
491: [22:45:46] <Pyromanik> this coming from the fellow who didn't like citrus flavoured liqueur
492: [22:45:57] <ss23> Pyromanik: that was gross!
493: [22:46:03] <Pyromanik> haha
494: [22:46:11] <Pyromanik> then you put coke and lemons in it
495: [22:46:17] <ss23> lime!!!!
496: [22:46:20] <Pyromanik> which that awesome bartender
497: [22:46:24] <Pyromanik> free
498: [22:46:25] <ss23> mmmm
499: [22:46:25] <ss23> freee
500: [22:46:26] <ss23> :D
501: [22:46:44] <Pyromanik> I like how he rubbed your shoulder and at the same time said that was how is GF drank it.
502: [22:46:47] <Pyromanik> his*
503: [22:47:01] <ss23> Nu uh, he rubbed my shoulder before that!
504: [22:48:14] <Pyromanik> yeah
505: [22:48:15] <Pyromanik> that's right
506: [22:48:20] <Pyromanik> came back to clarify he had a GF, rofl
507: [22:48:32] <irogue> hahaha
508: [22:48:36] <irogue> he wanted ss23's D
509: [22:48:48] <Pyromanik> good fella, would let him serve me again xD
510: [22:48:56] <Pyromanik> (serve, not service - don't get too excided)
511: [22:49:45] <ss23> Hey hey, you can have a girlfriend and still think I'm cute as fuck and give me free drinks, you know
512: [22:49:48] <ss23> :D
513: [22:50:01] <spronk> wait
514: [22:50:08] <spronk> did he think you were a chick?
515: [22:50:33] <ss23> I doubt it
516: [22:50:36] <simon_w> Come on AU business hours, I want a free replacement laptop
517: [22:50:47] <ss23> I mean, I'm like a chick, but... I doubt you could see/hear me IRL and not know I'm a dude
518: [22:50:56] <irogue> ss23 had added socks to his underwear, just to be sure nobody made that mistake
519: [22:51:07] <ss23> "wow, your vagina sure is buldging today ss23"
520: [22:51:27] <simon_w> Stuffing your bra? Typical
521: [22:51:47] <Pyromanik> gosh
522: [22:51:47] <ss23> Hey hey, now that's one area I don't need to stuff :D
523: [22:51:51] <Pyromanik> this went down hill fast
524: [22:51:56] <ss23> Maybe he was just hitting on Pyromanik?
525: [22:52:00] <ss23> Afterall, Pyromanik got a free drink too
526: [22:52:06] <micmania2> simon_w, my early ShowInMenus problem was because I had another InheritSideBar default set in the yml. Must have somehow caused a conflict.
527: [22:52:08] <Pyromanik> I am pretty awesome like that
528: [22:52:14] <Pyromanik> everyone always hits on me.
529: [22:52:20] <Pyromanik> (not actually true)
530: [22:52:22] <ss23> Still, at least me and Pyromanik weren't trying to buy him a drink
531: [22:52:36] <Pyromanik> hahahaha, true.
532: [22:52:48] <Pyromanik> he had a headache though :P
533: [22:53:03] <Pyromanik> he was a good looking chap though.
534: [22:53:07] <Pyromanik> can't deny
535: [22:54:23] <ss23> XD
536: [22:54:33] <ss23> Speaking of, irogue, did you want him to do work for you or what?!
537: [22:54:54] <Pyromanik> the bar tender?
538: [22:54:58] <ss23> haha, no
539: [22:55:06] <ss23> Andrew, otter, the gay looking guy who I live with
540: [22:55:19] <Pyromanik> gay looking?
541: [22:55:40] <ss23> You didn't think he looked gay?
542: [22:55:40] <ss23> idk
543: [22:55:46] <Pyromanik> not particularly
544: [22:55:50] <ss23> I'm not gay myself, my gaydar is probably rather off
545: [22:56:13] <Pyromanik> but then that doesn't mean much. irogue has to be the most normal bloke gay fella I've met.
546: [22:57:57] <ss23> That sounds like it kind of has homophobic undertones
547: [22:58:06] <ss23> like "Oh you actually look like a normal person! Even with being gay :)"
548: [22:58:09] <ss23> :P
549: [23:01:10] <irogue> https://twitter.com/carlfletcher/status/364149238839508992/photo/1
550: [23:01:17] <irogue> sellotape as leg restraints eh?
551: [23:01:44] <zippy__> not a real kiwi, I couldn't see chips and dip
552: [23:01:55] <zippy__> or maybe thats his problem, lack of
553: [23:06:38] <Pyromanik> ss23: nah I mean some people just look gay (mostly to do with dress and behaviourisims)
554: [23:07:12] <Pyromanik> others you can tell when you talk to them or whatever.
555: [23:07:24] * ShadeFrozen has joined #silverstripe
556: [23:07:25] <Pyromanik> And some are just normal folks you'd never guess
557: [23:08:01] <Pyromanik> depends on the flamboyant nature for the most part I guess.
558: [23:08:14] <Pyromanik> some folks just seem to really want to be in your face about it
559: [23:08:24] <ss23> irogue: OI, ANSWER ME
560: [23:08:24] <ss23> ;_;
561: [23:08:46] <Pyromanik> which is fine. Everyone's entitled to self expression, even emos.
562: [23:09:24] <irogue> ss23: nah, using Pyromanik instead, he knows SS :-P
563: [23:09:32] <ss23> mmk sweet
564: [23:09:34] * ss23 glares at Pyromanik
565: [23:09:52] <ShadeFrozen> hi guys...is this the right channel to ask a question ?
566: [23:09:59] <ss23> Yep yep, ShadeFrozen :)
567: [23:10:16] <ShadeFrozen> cool...so here goes then
568: [23:10:21] <ss23> lol
569: [23:10:38] <Pyromanik> ShadeFrozen: all the questions are welcome!
570: [23:10:45] <ShadeFrozen> Trying to understand more about dataobjectmanager (yes I'm on 2.4 still on this project)
571: [23:10:52] <UncleCheese> Oh no!
572: [23:10:58] <Pyromanik> you're in luck, UncleCheese is right here! :P
573: [23:11:01] <Pyromanik> xD
574: [23:11:08] <ShadeFrozen> I'm using dataobjects as pages as well which is where I'm getting stuck
575: [23:11:09] <UncleCheese> It's a hopelessly broken piece of shit that will never be maintained
576: [23:11:23] <UncleCheese> oh, right.. proceed with your query.
577: [23:11:46] <ShadeFrozen> my problem is this..I have created an image dataobject class
578: [23:11:50] <UncleCheese> ok
579: [23:12:01] <UncleCheese> As in MyImage extends Image
580: [23:12:16] <ShadeFrozen> the page type first is as follows...
581: [23:12:22] <ShadeFrozen> yes uncle cheese
582: [23:12:39] <UncleCheese> please don't paste directly into the irc
583: [23:12:47] <UncleCheese> don't pull an UncleCheese
584: [23:12:49] <ShadeFrozen> actually, easier to paste the link
585: [23:12:51] <ShadeFrozen> http://www.silverstripe.org/dataobjectmanager-module-forum/show/24671
586: [23:13:39] <ShadeFrozen> so I created the page type..no worries there
587: [23:13:45] <ShadeFrozen> and everything on that page works..
588: [23:13:46] <ShadeFrozen> BUT
589: [23:14:09] <UncleCheese> if you want multiple images. don't use an ImageDataObjectManger
590: [23:14:19] <Pyromanik> ?
591: [23:14:25] <Pyromanik> isn't that what it's for?
592: [23:14:27] <UncleCheese> just use a regular DOM and use an uploadify field
593: [23:14:37] <UncleCheese> no, imageDOM is for a DataObject that has_one Image
594: [23:14:38] <ShadeFrozen> I can only add one image at a time to the news item
595: [23:14:46] <ShadeFrozen> instead of multiple
596: [23:14:47] <UncleCheese> just like FileDOM is for DataObjects with has_one File
597: [23:14:53] <ShadeFrozen> hmm..ok
598: [23:15:01] <UncleCheese> so you can either use the ImageDOM like you are, and create a separate field of "extra images"
599: [23:15:10] <ShadeFrozen> *listening
600: [23:15:22] <UncleCheese> or use a regular DOM and set up a proper many_many Images with an Uploadify field
601: [23:15:22] <ShadeFrozen> at work btw so will be intermittent
602: [23:16:34] <UncleCheese> and please, for the love of God, get rid of those closing PHP tags!
603: [23:17:05] <UncleCheese> just looking at them scares the hell of out me
604: [23:17:19] <Pyromanik> :< closing tags
605: [23:17:21] <Pyromanik> D:
606: [23:20:29] <ss23> kybcg today simon_w?
607: [23:20:30] <ss23> lunch*
608: [23:20:40] <ss23> I needa use the nub line thingies...
609: [23:20:49] <simon_w> If I ever get off the phone :p
610: [23:22:12] <irogue> om nom nom closing php tags
611: [23:23:10] <ShadeFrozen> sorry about that..reviewing what's been said
612: [23:24:16] <ShadeFrozen> lol@closing tags....ok consider it done
613: [23:25:28] <simon_w> Bah, might have to downgrade first
614: [23:25:30] <ShadeFrozen> so if I went the current route, adding extra images to the image class means I have to define the number of extra images, right?
615: [23:26:27] <simon_w> ShadeFrozen, just add in a many_many to Image?
616: [23:26:50] <spronk> hmm
617: [23:27:12] <mobiusnz1> hey, any ideas why I'm getting this error here? http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/51fee286effb6
618: [23:27:16] * mobiusnz1 is now known as mobiusnz
619: [23:27:58] <simon_w> The newlines
620: [23:29:09] <UncleCheese> ShadeFrozen: you'd have a $has_one MainImage => Image, and $many_many ExtraImages => Image
621: [23:29:25] <UncleCheese> depending on the experience you want for the user, that may or may not be a good option
622: [23:29:49] <UncleCheese> if all the images have the same contextual value, then i would just do a single many_many
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624: [23:30:28] <spronk> yeah... enums in SS are nasty
625: [23:31:02] <UncleCheese> nothing like an eval'ed array
626: [23:31:26] * mobiusnz quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
627: [23:33:47] * mobiusnz1 is now known as mobiusnz
628: [23:34:02] <mobiusnz> so I've just got to put it out over one line?
629: [23:34:24] <simon_w> Yup
630: [23:34:43] <UncleCheese> as i remember, it's sensitive to the whitespace after the commas, too
631: [23:34:49] <UncleCheese> it's either required or prohibited.. i forget
632: [23:35:30] <mobiusnz> I should patch that
633: [23:36:20] <simon_w> UncleCheese, nope :p
634: [23:36:30] <simon_w> It does a explode on '/ *, */'
635: [23:36:38] <simon_w> well, a preg_split
636: [23:36:45] <UncleCheese> oh, ok, so it's insensitive
637: [23:36:56] <UncleCheese> i dunno, i always format it incorrectly.. that's all i know
638: [23:39:18] <ShadeFrozen> ok guys thanks for the help...I've saved this text and will attack it later tonight
639: [23:39:48] * willr_ has joined #silverstripe
640: [23:42:35] * swordsmanz has joined #silverstripe
641: [23:42:55] <simon_w> willr_, what sort of stats?
642: [23:43:18] <willr_> Would just be cool to see words per day or something on the calendar.
643: [23:43:30] * SphereSilverNL quit (Remote host closed the connection)
644: [23:43:36] <willr_> You're a natural designer.
645: [23:43:53] <simon_w> Tables everywhere!
646: [23:44:52] <simon_w> Well, I can add title attributes
647: [23:44:57] * Jayden90 has joined #silverstripe
648: [23:47:00] <Pyromanik> ShadeFrozen: logs.silverstripe.org
649: [23:47:27] <ss23> willr_ / simon_w : if you want stats, just use psig?
650: [23:47:28] <ss23> or w/e it is
651: [23:47:34] <ss23> pisg
652: [23:47:42] <simon_w> ss23, or, write my own!
653: [23:47:49] <Jayden90> Does the template "Security_login.ss" still get picked up automatically in 3.1? It's not working for me :(
654: [23:47:54] <simon_w> Then I don't need perl :p
655: [23:48:26] <ss23> simon_w: You have too much time.
656: [23:48:47] <simon_w> ss23, that's what Sunday evenings are for!
657: [23:48:48] <ss23> Anyone had issues with Silverstripe 3 and where the Content/Settings/History tabs load the wrong thing? e.g. click Settings, go to Content, then click again and go to History, etc etc
658: [23:49:18] <UncleCheese> ah, you must have installed the silverstripe-fuckeduptabs module
659: [23:49:20] <UncleCheese> just delete it
660: [23:49:24] <ss23> rofl UncleCheese
661: [23:49:29] <willr_> Jayden90 done a flush?
662: [23:49:34] <willr_> it should be
663: [23:49:56] <Jayden90> willr_: Thanks, I'll keep at it then
664: [23:51:22] <ss23> I hate whoever decided to turn the CMS into some messed up Javascript pit of death
665: [23:51:29] <ss23> Why not just load pages properly :<
666: [23:52:19] <Jayden90> Jayden90: willr_: Fixed it, needed to log in to flush properly.
667: [23:52:32] <simon_w> ss23, because a full-page reload is a lot slower
668: [23:52:41] <willr_> If you're in dev, you shouldn't need to flush
669: [23:53:18] <ss23> don't care, would rather slower page loads by .2 of a second or w/e than this shit where the entire CMS is broken cause Javascript bs
670: [23:54:10] <willr_> IMHO would have built it a bit more Backbone-ish than how Ingo like's his CMS
671: [23:54:34] <willr_> but hey at least it's not in prototype any more*
672: [23:55:50] <ss23> asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf
673: [23:55:59] <ss23> rage
674: [23:56:51] <ss23> :q
675: [23:56:55] <ss23> blargh
676: [23:59:12] <micmania2> its a bit crazy how many js files load in the CMS

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