#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 21 July 2013

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5: [00:42:20] <SphereSilver> hello
6: [00:42:45] <SphereSilver> I was actually looking for Ingo :)
7: [00:42:52] <simon_w> He's on holiday
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9: [00:43:11] <SphereSilver> I know, he e-mailed me that, but no contact whatsoever
10: [00:43:54] <SphereSilver> not even a "ask short questions here" address :P So I thought, just login and see if he's online by any chance :)
11: [00:46:00] <SphereSilver> I guess it's a minor annoyance for me, but no problem. Being away somewhat includes being unreachable :)
12: [00:58:34] <howardgrigg> hey guys I'm getting this weird error and I don't know how to fix it - see the random characters http://note.io/14sfNMs
13: [00:59:07] <howardgrigg> they are being included before the <html> tag of all pages - template, CMS, tasks etc...
14: [00:59:28] <howardgrigg> I imagine it's some weird server config or something but don't know where to look
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17: [01:25:32] <SphereSilver> hmmm, second on the list is sminnee I guess I should send an e-mail?
18: [01:26:21] <howardgrigg> SphereSilver: what do you need to contact them about/
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21: [01:41:00] <SphereSilver> howardgrigg, the meetup on september 20th, so it's no biggie :)
22: [01:42:42] <SphereSilver> It's just that I was working on getting the agenda and such together, thus thought "hey would be nice if one of them could react" :)
23: [01:54:31] <howardgrigg> oh wheres the meetup?
24: [01:59:17] <SphereSilver> Amsterdam, Dutchyland
25: [01:59:44] <howardgrigg> nice :)
26: [01:59:50] <SphereSilver> http://www.meetup.com/silverstripe-netherlands/events/122441422/
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28: [02:03:03] <SphereSilver> Care to join howardgrigg? I have funds up to about 200 euro
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31: [02:06:48] <SphereSilver> wow, SS3.1 is way faster than 3.0!
32: [02:07:18] <SphereSilver> Never really looked at the speed, but good job to who fixed the sluggishness!
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37: [03:07:09] <simon_w> UncleCheese, so, enjoying the earthquakes?
38: [03:09:26] <UncleCheese> you know what
39: [03:09:30] <UncleCheese> i didn't feel either of them
40: [03:09:33] <UncleCheese> i'm so upset
41: [03:10:21] <UncleCheese> i was walking down Adelaide street for the one on Friday.. and this morning, i was home, but I didn't notice anything
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43: [03:17:21] <willr> We'll have to go bigger and better then
44: [03:17:29] <UncleCheese> no thanks
45: [03:20:42] <willr> Though a weekend would be better timing for big ones.. working an in earthquake prone brick building holds a little bit of fear
46: [03:21:06] <simon_w> But my work desk is more sturdy than my home one
47: [03:21:31] <willr> yeah but what's going to fall on you at home? Just go outside
48: [03:24:23] <UncleCheese> the guys at work were saying that was the worst one in 8 year
49: [03:25:35] <simon_w> It was only a piddly 5.7/5.8
50: [03:25:44] <willr> Yeah 5.7 is getting up there with the biggest shake in a while. Though been really active this last week. #eqnz hasn't been so busy since chch's big ones
51: [03:26:30] <UncleCheese> well you have to get to 7 before a tsunami rolls in
52: [03:27:37] <simon_w> Or a shelf collapse, or landslide, or eruption
53: [03:29:28] <simon_w> Hmm, now that geonet're sending out prelim emails it's a lot harder to see how much there actually were
54: [03:30:45] <UncleCheese> rescue chopper heading over newtown right now
55: [03:31:11] <simon_w> And there's another 3.1
56: [03:31:17] <simon_w> That's usually where it ends up going :p
57: [03:31:33] <UncleCheese> must be an earthquake victim
58: [03:40:08] <UncleCheese> what would you guys say is a bullet-proof way of knowing if your current working directory is a SilverStripe project?
59: [03:40:27] <UncleCheese> the existence of "framework" isn't that reliable
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61: [03:50:50] <willr> UncleCheese well FRAMEWORK_DIR and FRAMEWORK_PATH should be set
62: [03:51:06] <UncleCheese> hmm
63: [03:51:12] <UncleCheese> but in a silverstripe agnostic process
64: [03:51:46] <UncleCheese> in other words, without loading Core.php, etc
65: [03:52:24] <simon_w> The presence of framework/silverstripe_version?
66: [03:52:24] <UncleCheese> i was thinking of searching the tree for silverstripe_version, or cli-script.php or something that isn't likely to change in future versions
67: [03:52:35] <UncleCheese> but is the directory "framework" compulsory?
68: [03:52:45] <willr> nope
69: [03:53:02] <UncleCheese> i guess you can just scan the tree and look for some dead giveaway files, like the ones i listed
70: [03:53:17] <UncleCheese> i'm probably over thinking it, but it's a fun exercise
71: [03:53:19] <willr> Well for sake I hardcoded sapphire / framework as the only options for dif names
72: [03:53:43] <UncleCheese> sake breaks if you use a custom framework directory? that's fun
73: [03:54:02] <UncleCheese> i often wonder how well SS runs if you actually do take the liberty to use your own directory names
74: [03:55:18] <simon_w> When I did the original rename, it ran perfectly
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76: [03:56:05] <willr> well it would as long as you run it from a dir with cli-script in it, but if it has to check parent folders it uses framework/sapphire
77: [03:56:20] <UncleCheese> right
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79: [03:56:49] <willr> I guess silverstripe_version would be the closest to a file that would be unique to SS while always existing
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81: [03:57:17] <UncleCheese> yeah, that's where i ended up..
82: [03:58:02] <simon_w> Also, bash script for checking: if find * -name silverstripe_version | grep -q silver; then echo 'Found'; else echo 'Not found'; fi
83: [03:59:25] <WillSkeggs> Hey Guys, does anyone have any idea as to why pages (regular pages/page.php) that I have selected "show in menu" for, with access only to those logged in, aren't showing in my navigation?
84: [03:59:47] <simon_w> You're not logged in?
85: [04:01:07] <WillSkeggs> Not logged in. But it should still in the navigation right then prompt for login when click if I'm not logged in?
86: [04:01:15] <WillSkeggs> still show*
87: [04:01:21] <simon_w> Nope
88: [04:01:35] <simon_w> canView() == false, so Menu/Children don't show it
89: [04:02:08] <WillSkeggs> Oh really. Is there away of getting around this without having a fixed link in the navigation?
90: [04:02:20] <simon_w> Stick in a RedirectorPage
91: [04:02:20] <WillSkeggs> a way*
92: [04:02:31] <WillSkeggs> True. Cheers.
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99: [05:11:10] <willr> shit.
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102: [05:13:40] <UncleCheese> HOLY FUCK!
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105: [05:15:03] <|Rock|> hi
106: [05:15:07] <|Rock|> somebody awake
107: [05:15:09] <|Rock|> ?
108: [05:15:30] <UncleCheese> after that earthquake, i'm sure as fuck awake
109: [05:15:38] <|Rock|> earthquake?
110: [05:15:40] <willr> UncleCheese told you bigger is better
111: [05:15:51] <UncleCheese> jesus christ
112: [05:16:05] <willr> Felt that one
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114: [05:16:28] <|Rock|> lol
115: [05:16:31] <|Rock|> Any way
116: [05:16:38] <|Rock|> Is one of you good with installing modules?
117: [05:16:41] <UncleCheese> http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/region/wellington/felt
118: [05:18:05] <|Rock|> hm
119: [05:18:14] <|Rock|> I get what you mean ;#
120: [05:18:20] <|Rock|> I thought it was kidding :S
121: [05:19:02] <UncleCheese> another one
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123: [05:20:54] <|Rock|> how big are the problems over there?
124: [05:21:05] <|Rock|> Much damage already?
125: [05:21:11] <UncleCheese> doubt it
126: [05:21:19] <UncleCheese> anything under 7 usually doesn't do damage
127: [05:21:25] <UncleCheese> my first earthquake, though
128: [05:21:27] <UncleCheese> scary shit
129: [05:21:36] <|Rock|> ah
130: [05:21:48] <|Rock|> you just moved to NZ?
131: [05:22:39] <UncleCheese> yup
132: [05:23:06] <|Rock|> Good timing :p
133: [05:30:37] <willr> also needs to be 7.1 or 7.2 before it becomes a tidal wave risk though you'll be up high right UncleCheese?
134: [05:30:52] <UncleCheese> haha.. we just researched that
135: [05:31:01] <UncleCheese> yeah, we're way up there
136: [05:31:18] <UncleCheese> a tidal wave that could take us out would have to take out the whole island
137: [05:31:53] <UncleCheese> is it always like this? how do you kiwis sleep at night?
138: [05:32:20] <|Rock|> they just don't sleep? :P
139: [05:33:00] <UncleCheese> i'm going into town to survey the damage
140: [05:33:15] <UncleCheese> i hope Te Papa is still standing. that would be a shame
141: [05:33:35] <UncleCheese> But if we have to live with a couple fewer Chinese/Fish n' Chip fry pits, then I'm probably okay with that.
142: [05:34:38] <ss23> 6.5 quake while in the supermarket :O
143: [05:34:48] <|Rock|> hehe
144: [05:35:01] <ss23> people were freaking the fuck out.
145: [05:35:58] <|Rock|> As I was working me too...
146: [05:36:11] <|Rock|> would be cared about products that could start fall :p
147: [05:36:15] <ss23> lol
148: [05:36:25] <ss23> naw, was actually not bad, only saw like a flimsy plastic thing fall over
149: [05:36:56] <|Rock|> Whats the time there? 17:36?
150: [05:37:04] <UncleCheese> yes
151: [05:37:12] <UncleCheese> ss23, that was scary as fck]
152: [05:37:12] <UncleCheese> "{+
153: [05:37:14] <ss23> lol
154: [05:37:16] <ss23> I enjoyed it
155: [05:37:16] <ss23> :D
156: [05:37:18] <ss23> like
157: [05:37:19] <UncleCheese> that was my son ^^
158: [05:37:24] <ss23> haha
159: [05:37:27] <UncleCheese> he doesn't like it when i swear, apparently
160: [05:37:29] <ss23> UncleCheese: Did he find it fun or scary? :D
161: [05:37:34] <UncleCheese> scary
162: [05:37:36] <UncleCheese> serIOUsly
163: [05:37:47] <UncleCheese> is it like this all the time?
164: [05:37:52] <ss23> UncleCheese: I'm new too!
165: [05:38:06] <UncleCheese> you are?
166: [05:38:07] <|Rock|> Can't believe it would be ;)
167: [05:38:18] <ss23> UncleCheese: Yeah, I've been here maybe a month
168: [05:38:22] <UncleCheese> from where?
169: [05:38:29] <UncleCheese> UK?
170: [05:39:14] * willr quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
171: [05:39:14] <ss23> UncleCheese: Naw, Hamilton
172: [05:39:18] <UncleCheese> ohhh
173: [05:39:19] <UncleCheese> nice area
174: [05:39:28] <UncleCheese> no quakes?
175: [05:40:45] <ss23> lol
176: [05:40:49] <ss23> this one was felt in Hamilton
177: [05:41:14] <UncleCheese> nice
178: [05:42:27] <ss23> UncleCheese: http://goo.gl/maps/OLY9A
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182: [05:53:29] <simon_w> Yay, power's back!
183: [05:53:37] <UncleCheese> any damage?
184: [05:53:44] <UncleCheese> i hear a lot of sirens
185: [05:53:57] <howardgrigg> UncleCheese & simon_w: you guys alright?
186: [05:54:00] <simon_w> Apparently a burst pipe near the central library
187: [05:54:07] <UncleCheese> wow
188: [05:54:24] <UncleCheese> yeah, i'm fine.. just don't know how i'm going to sleep tonight!
189: [05:54:27] <UncleCheese> that was scary shit!
190: [05:54:29] <simon_w> I had a book fall of a stack
191: [05:54:40] <howardgrigg> UncleCheese: haha - have you felt an earthquake before?
192: [05:54:44] <simon_w> Ooh, felt report time!
193: [05:54:45] <UncleCheese> your PHP 4.4 book?
194: [05:54:57] <simon_w> A massive Paul Hamilton one
195: [05:55:01] <UncleCheese> ah
196: [05:55:23] <simon_w> From my "I should put these away sometime" stack
197: [05:55:33] <ss23> 17:54:44 <@simon_w> Ooh, felt report time!
198: [05:55:40] <ss23> as in, because you just felt another one, or y ou got power back?
199: [05:56:02] <simon_w> Because I got power back :p
200: [05:56:11] <simon_w> Now I can't tell if earthquake or upstairs people
201: [05:56:28] <simon_w> UncleCheese, you should make a report too http://felt.geonet.org.nz/2013p543824
202: [05:57:07] <UncleCheese> yup, already done
203: [05:57:19] <ss23> I didn't confirm the time
204: [05:57:24] <ss23> :<
205: [05:57:25] <ss23> wait
206: [05:57:31] <ss23> I can corss reference against willr's fuck!
207: [05:57:36] <ss23> 17:11:10 <@willr> shit.
208: [05:57:38] <ss23> 17:13:40 < UncleCheese> HOLY FUCK!
209: [05:57:42] <ss23> now I have timestamps.
210: [05:57:50] <simon_w> Or, you know, it being the 6.5 one instead of one of the 5s
211: [05:57:57] <ss23> lol
212: [05:58:07] <ss23> Is this the biggest on Wellington has had in recent history?
213: [05:58:13] <ss23> recent e.g. 20 years
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215: [05:58:23] <ss23> Welcoem back, willr
216: [05:58:27] <ss23> Did you lose internet/power?
217: [05:58:44] <simon_w> I don't think so?
218: [05:59:48] <willr> I did
219: [06:00:05] <willr> been in and out since
220: [06:00:14] <ss23> I think we've kept it all the time here, and the supermarket stayed on
221: [06:00:34] <willr> I think just traffic
222: [06:00:34] <simon_w> That was an aftershock
223: [06:00:39] <ss23> another small quake :D
224: [06:00:41] <ss23> mm
225: [06:02:39] <|Rock|> hehe
226: [06:02:40] <willr> Bah net is so spotty
227: [06:03:19] <ss23> hate that, willr
228: [06:03:24] <ss23> no internet == life ruined
229: [06:04:26] <|Rock|> +1
230: [06:06:44] <simon_w> Heard that one coming
231: [06:06:46] <ss23> wow
232: [06:06:48] <ss23> that one was bigger
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234: [06:07:21] <simon_w> Currently a 4.5
235: [06:08:02] <ss23> at least aftershocks keep the night interesting, I guess (as long as power and internet doesn't go out)
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237: [06:08:24] <ss23> lol
238: [06:08:27] <ss23> poor willr lost internet in that one
239: [06:08:28] <ss23> :P
240: [06:08:46] <simon_w> Oh right, I should plug my phone in
241: [06:09:12] <ss23> another?
242: [06:09:59] <simon_w> You need to be faster ss23, I want warning! :p
243: [06:10:06] <ss23> haha
244: [06:10:12] <ss23> I was in another channel!
245: [06:10:17] <simon_w> Excuses!
246: [06:10:19] <ss23> XD
247: [06:10:39] <ss23> If I suddenly ping timeout, or you get a "asdflnkjasdflaksdn" from crap falling on my keyboard, a big one is coming! :
248: [06:10:42] <ss23> :P
249: [06:11:08] <simon_w> Suddenly ping timeout?
250: [06:11:16] <simon_w> It doesn't take two minutes to get here :p
251: [06:11:25] <simon_w> Oh no, ping here is four
252: [06:12:03] <ss23> lol
253: [06:12:16] <ss23> Now that I think about it, my DC is in Auckland
254: [06:12:17] <ss23> :P
255: [06:15:31] <simon_w> And I can't even go back to Diablo, cause internet might go down again :(
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258: [06:16:48] <ss23> simon_w: Thats why DRM sucks
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261: [06:24:33] <simon_w> Stupid footrest, stop shaking
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263: [06:24:50] <|Rock|> yay
264: [06:24:52] <|Rock|> sun :)
265: [06:28:52] <simon_w> Heh, I wonder how many of these quake reports I'm getting are going to get deleted
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268: [06:35:08] <simon_w> ss23, got your insurance sorted out yet? :p
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272: [06:52:14] <ss23> simon_w: For all my stuff
273: [06:52:23] * ss23 looks at his cheap pentium and insulin
274: [06:52:27] <ss23> Yeah, don't think I'll bother aye? :D
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282: [07:22:31] <simon_w> ss23, http://swng.it/17Ggmb.jpg is all the earthquakes >=MM6.5 in the last 20 years
283: [07:22:38] <simon_w> (excluding today's)
284: [07:23:09] <simon_w> More information is searchable: http://magma.geonet.org.nz/quakesearch/
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286: [07:41:30] <wmk> gmorning
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301: [08:28:13] <DesignerX> Hi, how can I find the version of SS used for a website ? I know its useing SS3+ but cant find the exact version and the Readme file doesnt have this info !
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303: [08:31:18] <pevjan> I am trying to write my first functional tests by following this: http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/testing/create-functional-test, but I get a "Fatal error: Couldn't connect to MySQL database | MySQL server has gone away in"
304: [08:31:26] <pevjan> what am I missing?
305: [08:33:16] <pevjan> the db connection works when I visit the site in my browser
306: [08:34:31] <DesignerX> pevjan: hi, i never used this but I think in testing the website will connect to a differnt Database ? so maybe you need to make sure that databse is available ?
307: [08:34:54] <pevjan> DesignerX: sounds reasonable.. but I can't figure out which db the tests would try to connect to
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309: [08:37:14] <DesignerX> pevjan: I think you will find some info here http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/environment-management ,i'm still reading it
310: [08:39:32] <DesignerX> pevjan: from my understanding you set the database & config info for each environment then it will auto use the correct setting epending on which inviroment the site is in .. Thats about all i have regarding this\
311: [08:41:25] <pevjan> DesignerX: thanks, I'm trying out different settings in there now
312: [08:42:22] <wmk> DesignerX, there is a file framework/silverstripe_version which should contain the version if downloaded.
313: [08:42:33] <wmk> if installed from lastest git it's empty
314: [08:43:09] <DesignerX> wmk: found it , ty :)
315: [08:43:16] <wmk> ;)
316: [08:52:06] <DesignerX> Where can I find info on how to use the /_config/ folder in mysite & modules ? I been using only _config.php but now I need to split my config into saparate files , is _config folder meant for that that ?
317: [08:53:11] <wmk> for most stuff yes
318: [08:53:56] <DesignerX> so do I just split my _config.php into 2 files & place them in _config folder ? do they need the "_" underscore prefix ?
319: [08:58:37] <pevjan> I am trying to run the tests against a sqlite3 db by following this: http://doc.silverstripe.com/framework/en/howto/phpunit-configuration, but the tests still seem to try to connect to a MySQL db
320: [09:01:46] <ss23> simon_w: handy picture :O
321: [09:02:19] <ss23> simon_w: I want a bigger one though. It's like crack. You have a 5.5, you want a 6.5. You have a 6.5, you still want it bigger
322: [09:02:34] <ss23> simon_w: COME ON MAN I NEED A BIGGER HIT, THESE 4.5'S DO NOTHING FOR ME NOW!
323: [09:03:24] <DesignerX> ss23: what are you talking about ?! yeh .. and hi
324: [09:06:31] <simon_w> ss23, you know it's a logarithmic scale, right? And are you ready to run for the hills? :p
325: [09:07:08] <simon_w> DesignerX, http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8945358/Big-quake-shakes-central-New-Zealand
326: [09:07:31] <ss23> simon_w: I know, I know!
327: [09:07:36] <ss23> I CAN'T HELP IT
328: [09:10:04] <DesignerX> damn ... the camera guy must have really shaky hands :)
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330: [09:12:10] <zippy___> told ya guys…. Wellington huh!
331: [09:15:52] <pevjan> and when I am trying to run phpunit -c phpunit.teamcity.sqlite3.xml which was included in the new project, it still complains about MySQL missing
332: [09:17:14] <DesignerX> pevjan: maybe you wanna try testiung with MySQL ? if that works then you limit the area of error ?
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339: [09:54:37] <wmk> DesignerX, got the config stuff working?
340: [09:56:22] <DesignerX> wmk: nope, I put the code in a /_config/MyConfig.php but didnt pick it up
341: [09:56:35] <wmk> in _config you need yml config
342: [09:56:37] <wmk> http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/topics/configuration
343: [09:56:51] <DesignerX> oh yml, need to learn that
344: [09:56:56] <wmk> very different syntax and confusing the first time, but very powerful
345: [09:57:14] <wmk> and you cannot do everything in yml, but most of the stuff.
346: [09:57:21] <wmk> brb
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356: [10:31:55] <xananax> Hello...A little problem driving me crazy, hope someone can help. I have developed a website some time ago on SS 2.4.5; the client is requesting changes now. So I pull back the repo on my PC, but I can't run the site. Whatever I do, I get redirected to http://localhost/dev/build?returnURL=, and I am given a "page not found"
357: [10:32:45] <xananax> If I enter any other url, such as localhost/admin, I still get the same "page not found"
358: [10:33:16] <xananax> with default "your site name your tagline here" at the top
359: [10:33:43] <xananax> it's not pulling my css, nothing
360: [10:33:51] <xananax> anyone can help me understand?
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364: [10:38:27] <DesignerX> xananax: hi, have you linkd to you CSS files in your template ?
365: [10:38:47] <DesignerX> xananax: & if you just installed a new theme, make sure to do ?flush=all
366: [10:39:34] <xananax> Thank you, let me try this
367: [10:39:40] <xananax> what does it do? Empties the cache?
368: [10:40:08] <xananax> are paths cached? It seems as if it wants me to store the website exactly in the same path that it was
369: [10:46:29] <xananax> I moved the site in a path similar to what it was and it worked. weird
370: [10:46:36] <xananax> anyway, thanks
371: [10:46:49] <DesignerX> xananax: is the site live ? Custom theme ? What version of SS ?
372: [10:48:06] <xananax> SS 2.4.5. The site is not live, but I have a WIP on a server. The theme is custom, with a lot of custom plugins
373: [10:48:42] <xananax> Now it's sort of working, but not picking on the sqlite db
374: [10:49:03] <DesignerX> xananax: why using 2.4.5 ? old site ?
375: [10:49:07] <xananax> yea
376: [10:49:14] <xananax> never finished because the client didn
377: [10:49:19] <xananax> *'t give the assets
378: [10:49:26] <xananax> woke up two years later
379: [10:49:33] <xananax> and wants his website finished in the week
380: [10:51:34] <DesignerX> lolz ! anyhow , so the theme is working now ?
381: [10:52:42] <xananax> yea, everything seems to be working, but not the database. Either it has been erased, or it is not used
382: [10:52:48] <xananax> I am trying to understand
383: [10:55:17] <DesignerX> mm.. did you move the site, I remember having a small problem after I moved the site & using SQlite
384: [10:55:37] <DesignerX> check _config.php if it has the correct path to the database file (.sqlite file )
385: [11:03:33] <ss23> simon_w: Confirming, I don't need to go to work tomorrow, right?
386: [11:05:10] <ss23> Based on 3news advice, I discussed with Sam to pass this on to you:
387: [11:05:11] <ss23> Please be advised to come to work after 12pm. If you could be on the ground by 1pm, that would be great.
388: [11:05:16] <ss23> boom, think it's time for a sleep in.
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391: [11:16:50] <violetina> Please log in as an administrator to flush the template cache. << how ever i'm admin but permissions not seem ok , anyway to fix this?
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393: [11:24:21] <pevjan> When I am running a functional test and creating a page and then going to that page's url, I get the SS "Getting Started" page instead. How do I change that?
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395: [11:30:38] <violetina> http://pastebin.com/jVrr3yCM this i get in my /var/log/apache2/error_log
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398: [11:51:30] <micmania1> violetina, did you get your problem sorted?
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405: [12:06:54] <violetina> nope
406: [12:08:09] <violetina> but i'm afk for a while , think i try a fresh install later today...
407: [12:08:18] <violetina> have a nice day ;)
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409: [12:12:42] <Shrike_Finland> Anyone familiar with LESS?
410: [12:13:37] <Shrike_Finland> I try to dynamically calculate letter-spacing based on font-size...
411: [12:15:10] <Shrike_Finland> This is what I have at the moment: http://pastebin.com/rK4HFpJY
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414: [12:36:08] <Shrike_Finland> Actually, got it working: if someone needs example -> http://pastebin.com/tYu0NNqz
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420: [13:23:38] <micmania1> What could be setting a page to 404 in Controller->render()?
421: [13:51:29] <wmk> micmania1, in any controller function $this->httpError(404); afaik
422: [13:51:58] <micmania1> wmk, thanks. I has been calling something in my template which was causing it.
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430: [14:40:55] <ARNHOE> Is it possible to just call one SiteTree field on a non-related page? Or wouldnt it hurt the performance to call a whole sitetree with 3/4/5 extrafields then normal?
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436: [15:24:08] <ss23> simon_w keeps farting
437: [15:24:16] <ss23> we're getting more quakes now, feel like they're high 5's
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440: [16:11:42] <ARNHOE> Anyone have experience with limiting permissions to specificy dataobjects instead of the entire dataobject?
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458: [18:05:49] <wmk> g'evening
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496: [20:43:55] <simon_w> ss23_, high 5? Where did you learn to guess what strength an earthquake is? :p
497: [20:46:06] <simon_w> Ooh, our building's fine
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499: [20:52:54] <Pyromanik> simon_w: again?
500: [20:53:06] <Pyromanik> have another eq this morning?
501: [20:53:17] <simon_w> Pyromanik, highest one overnight looked like a 5.1
502: [20:53:27] <Pyromanik> ah yeh
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504: [20:53:51] <Pyromanik> any houses turned into downhill tabogans yet?
505: [20:53:53] <simon_w> Though that was out near Hamner
506: [20:54:15] <simon_w> [03:24:16] <ss23> we're getting more quakes now, feel like they're high 5's
507: [20:54:26] <simon_w> 4.5, 4.9, 4.8
508: [20:54:42] <Pyromanik> heh
509: [20:54:48] <simon_w> Nah, almost entirely minor damage
510: [20:54:49] <Pyromanik> 4.5 isn't remotely close to 5
511: [20:54:58] <Pyromanik> logarithmic remember.
512: [20:55:02] <simon_w> Nor's 4.8
513: [20:55:29] <simon_w> This is what happens when someone from Hamilton tries guessing earthquake strength
514: [20:55:36] <Pyromanik> hahah
515: [20:56:08] <Pyromanik> I bet he'd be really good at guessing humidity though.
516: [20:56:25] <Pyromanik> At least, I guess living in a damp boggy swamp would teach someone that skill.
517: [20:56:28] <Pyromanik> maybe not.
518: [20:56:45] <ajmitch_> again, dunedin misses out on all the fun
519: [20:57:03] <simon_w> Just go light a couch on fire then :p
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521: [20:57:30] <ajmitch_> yeah, we need a few good riots
522: [20:57:39] <zippy__> Moring
523: [20:58:38] <simon_w> Turns out if you remove all storage attachments from a VM, it can't boot
524: [20:59:34] <zippy__> simon_w: bit shakey over that way? :)
525: [20:59:43] <simon_w> Depends who you ask :p
526: [21:00:12] <zippy__> i've been feeling a few over here
527: [21:01:41] <Pyromanik> I'm coming up on Wednesday. Will be interdastering
528: [21:02:14] <Pyromanik> oh you, news. You so full of shit.
529: [21:02:29] <Pyromanik> THERE HAVE BEEN OVER A HUNDRED AND FIFTY AFTERSHOCKS
530: [21:02:54] <Pyromanik> wow, really? 1) like you weren't expecting that, 2) most of them will have been almost unnoticable.
531: [21:03:26] <Pyromanik> sensationalisim at it's worst.
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533: [21:05:53] <simon_w> There's been over 300 since Friday
534: [21:06:07] <simon_w> Last night, about 50 of those were noticeable
535: [21:06:38] <simon_w> Also, it must really suck to be in Seddon. Stuff happened in Wellington, so no one cares about them.
536: [21:09:34] <Pyromanik> yeh
537: [21:09:42] <Pyromanik> pretty much the way it is.
538: [21:10:16] <Pyromanik> like when Christchurch had no power or water and Auckland had a 2.1 or some shit and they freaked out and took up the news for a full day at least.
539: [21:10:35] <Pyromanik> (not that Christchurch much cared, most people didn't have power for TV).
540: [21:17:10] <Pyromanik> big population makes big news.
541: [21:17:28] <Pyromanik> more people care, so more people watch. It's all about the ratings.
542: [21:18:46] <simon_w> Hehe, HHVM has a great phpinfo() http://swng.it/GTOAz
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546: [21:33:52] <Pyromanik> simon_w: I don't understand
547: [21:34:42] <Pyromanik> oic, a facebook php processor
548: [21:35:02] <Pyromanik> a php fork.
549: [21:35:28] <simon_w> It's an entirely new PHP stack
550: [21:35:28] <Pyromanik> once again politics segments open source progression
551: [21:37:50] <simon_w> The existence of HHVM has had no negative effect on the normal PHP stack
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553: [21:47:12] <Pyromanik> mmm, so I see.
554: [21:47:17] <Pyromanik> after reading about it
555: [21:47:45] <Pyromanik> It's a PHPVM, so exists more as a 'competitor' for the likes of mod_php and php_fpm?
556: [21:48:02] <Pyromanik> is more what I got out of that
557: [21:54:27] <spronk> hrmm
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560: [21:55:11] <spronk> surprised wellington hasn't fallen over more.
561: [21:55:39] <spronk> also, slightly less annoyed that i'm not going to wdcnz
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566: [22:04:34] <spronk> so what's actually broken up there in welly, anyway?
567: [22:11:20] <simon_w> Nothing
568: [22:12:26] <spronk> aww
569: [22:12:28] <spronk> disappointing
570: [22:12:33] <spronk> i heard stories of sinkholes on featherston
571: [22:12:38] <simon_w> Pyromanik, it does replace the PHP stack, adds persistence to the VM a few extensions, byte code optimisations and a JIT
572: [22:17:35] <simon_w> Pyromanik, it's more of a competitor for Zend
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574: [22:19:20] <spronk> the more stuff to get rid of zend junk the better
575: [22:36:23] <Pyromanik> spronk: not going to WDCNZ?
576: [22:36:29] <Pyromanik> Y U ABANDON ME!?
577: [22:37:01] <Pyromanik> simon_w: zend the php engine as opposed to zend the framework?
578: [22:37:06] <simon_w> Yes
579: [22:37:15] <spronk> Pyromanik: nah. was gonna, but then.. $
580: [22:37:18] <Pyromanik> I didnt' even know zend had an engine.
581: [22:37:28] <Pyromanik> spronk: heh. I was gonna, but then $, but then anyway.
582: [22:37:29] <spronk> also, didn't really like the look of the speaker line up this year
583: [22:40:20] <spronk> lolmm
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585: [22:57:11] <Colin[pi]> morning, everyone ok over there?
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587: [23:01:17] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi]: we're alive.
588: [23:01:33] <Pyromanik> NZ didn't randomly turn into a giant sink hole
589: [23:01:55] <willr> speak for yourself
590: [23:03:02] <zippy__> willr: wobble wobble? :)
591: [23:03:41] <zippy__> Is there an easy way / method to take the response from a db query (Object::get()->filter(….) and covert to json? It seems there is json2obj and even array2json but can't find an ObjectList2Json
592: [23:06:27] <Pyromanik> not sure about shortcuts, but you could define use (maybe) a toArray() and then a json_encode()
593: [23:06:35] <Pyromanik> if that'd even work (probably not)
594: [23:07:04] <Pyromanik> or turn on api and put a .json on the end of the URL, see what happens *shrug*
595: [23:08:16] <simon_w> Would be so much nicer if we required PHP 5.4
596: [23:10:59] <Pyromanik> probably
597: [23:11:08] <Pyromanik> but many production machines just not there.
598: [23:11:10] <Pyromanik> because debian.
599: [23:11:14] <Pyromanik> or ubuntu
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601: [23:11:45] <simon_w> Debian's on 5.4
602: [23:13:40] <zippy__> looks like you can use JSONDataFormatter object, with the convertDataObjectSet function
603: [23:13:45] <Pyromanik> lol, LTS edition?
604: [23:14:13] <Pyromanik> zippy__: careful now, no DataObjectSets for over a year now.
605: [23:15:37] <simon_w> Debian doesn't do LTS :p
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607: [23:16:13] <Pyromanik> oic
608: [23:16:14] <folibis> hi all!
609: [23:16:17] <Pyromanik> ho
610: [23:16:21] <Pyromanik> err, hi!
611: [23:17:11] <Pyromanik> priv folibis )
612: [23:17:34] <folibis> )
613: [23:19:34] <folibis> i had a lot of work, now I want to continue with Silverstripe ))
614: [23:20:33] <Pyromanik> ))
615: [23:21:10] <folibis> how can i work with Content section? Now I have a few images inside Content section/ I want to get them smaller ...Can Silverstripe hrlp me with it?
616: [23:22:12] <ss23_> 08:54:15 <@simon_w> [03:24:16] <ss23> we're getting more quakes now, feel like they're high 5's
617: [23:22:16] <ss23_> THEY FELT HIGHER
618: [23:22:24] <ss23_> and there was a 5 when I guessed that :<
619: [23:22:26] <simon_w> No they didn't :p
620: [23:22:32] <simon_w> 4.9
621: [23:22:47] <ss23_> it was 5.0 when I checked and got verified as that, they went back and changed it ltater though
622: [23:22:51] <ss23_> I count verified as 5.0 at some point as 5
623: [23:22:52] <Pyromanik> yeah, gosh ss23_, stop acting like an attention seeking upper north north islander.
624: [23:23:06] <ss23_> lol
625: [23:23:13] <Pyromanik> upper central north*
626: [23:23:36] <simon_w> Looks like it only got verified as 4.9 to me
627: [23:23:49] <UncleCheese> it got verified as shit-my-pants for me
628: [23:23:57] <simon_w> 5.0 was an automatic one
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630: [23:24:57] <simon_w> folibis, if they're ones you've put in to the WYSIWYG editor, then it's rather difficult to do anything with them
631: [23:25:52] <willr> Hearing that our brick pillar holding up the roof is cosmetic doesn't make me feel much safer.
632: [23:26:42] * ss23_ is now known as ss23
633: [23:28:16] <Jayden90> Does the SilverStripe WYSIWYG handle self-hosted HTML5 video?
634: [23:36:15] * ss23 wubbles simon_w
635: [23:36:24] <ss23> okay so, like a 2 for that then?
636: [23:36:27] <ss23> high 2's?
637: [23:38:38] <simon_w> Mid 4
638: [23:39:34] <simon_w> And so far I'm right! :p http://geonet.org.nz/quakes/2013p545900
639: [23:42:04] <willr> Pretty sure it should support <video> Jayden90 but you won't get the nice embed stuff
640: [23:42:23] <Colin[pi]> aw my showcase submission wasn't approved yet :(
641: [23:43:29] <spronk> ah you guys and your <1g PGA quakes
642: [23:43:38] <Pyromanik> haha UncleCheese, welcome to New Zealand!
643: [23:44:09] <Pyromanik> How does it feel to live on the edge of 2 tectonic plates?
644: [23:44:14] <Pyromanik> Right on the righ of fire!
645: [23:44:23] <Pyromanik> err, ring of fire*
646: [23:44:45] <folibis> heh I've found it ) I have to use TextParser subclass, something like this - http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/4cac633e6fcd6
647: [23:44:52] <Colin[pi]> haha UncleCheese, rethinking the move?
648: [23:45:46] <Pyromanik> folibis: a user can (or should be able to) set the width in the CMS.
649: [23:46:06] <folibis> really?
650: [23:46:08] <Pyromanik> the idea is that images are formatted and resized via the CMS, not by parsing the content.
651: [23:46:09] * UncleCheese quit (Quit: UncleCheese)
652: [23:46:11] <Pyromanik> yep ))
653: [23:46:24] <folibis> wow
654: [23:46:45] <simon_w> Apparently doing a VACUUM FULL ANALYZE on ss-log's database takes a while
655: [23:48:24] <Pyromanik> IDEK what that is
656: [23:49:20] <simon_w> slow
657: [23:50:10] <folibis> Pyromanik: yes, found it. but it is not what i searching for. it use <img width='xx' height='xx'> so big image downloaded and converted by the browser. i want to reduce downloaded size
658: [23:51:00] <simon_w> folibis, that happens when you save
659: [23:51:51] <spronk> vacuum is that thing you have to do on shitty rdbmss to make them not break
660: [23:52:09] <Pyromanik> folibis: the CMS is supposed to do a proper resize of the image (src="assets/Uploads/_resampled/SetRatioSize14090-ImageName.jpg)
661: [23:52:35] * pex quit (Quit: pex)
662: [23:52:38] <Pyromanik> if it's not, then someone broke it :<
663: [23:52:43] <simon_w> Woo, SELECT * is faster
664: [23:52:58] <Pyromanik> spronk: lol, so MySQL?
665: [23:53:53] <spronk> actually vacuum is a postgres thing
666: [23:53:54] <folibis> Pyromanik: yes, you are right it is not actual image but resized one. thanks ))
667: [23:55:33] <Pyromanik> folibis: yes, it's just unfortunate that TinyMCE uses those outdated width and height tags.
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670: [23:59:16] <spronk> grr
671: [23:59:19] <spronk> cms's CSS is fucked
672: [23:59:46] <spronk> also, why do i keep trying to edit a page, then it redirects me to edit the page not found page

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