#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 27 April 2013

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2: [00:07:00] <simon_w> All these people, offering me beer
3: [00:07:00] <simon_w> Silly people
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11: [03:20:00] <DesignerX> #css
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13: [03:37:00] <FrozenFire> :P
14: [03:37:00] <FrozenFire> Eager for abuse?
15: [03:42:00] <DesignerX> lol
16: [03:43:00] <DesignerX> U here :D all the time
17: [03:44:00] <DesignerX> I am still thinking about using CSS framewoks where they use .span1,2,3.. and set the elemnt width in the HTML VS using a basic framework & set all sizes in the CSS file .. this will be for my website update :D
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26: [06:51:00] <TheJHNZ> hello, is anyone here ?
27: [06:53:00] * TheJHNZ is now known as Extro
28: [06:53:00] <DesignerX> Hi, some here , some AFK,, post you question anyways :D
29: [06:53:00] <Extro> Alright
30: [06:54:00] <Extro> I'm new to the cms, is it normal that I am already pulling my hair out ?
31: [06:55:00] <DesignerX> yep... if you only pulling the hair out you doing good so far :D lol
32: [06:55:00] <DesignerX> but SS will solve this when u get use to it, very easy to work with
33: [06:56:00] <Extro> yea probably lol
34: [06:56:00] <DesignerX> kk, go ahead and ask
35: [06:56:00] <Extro> anywhore, i installed a theme and it has a sidebar, how do i edit the content in the sidebar
36: [06:56:00] <DesignerX> in #CSS ?
37: [06:56:00] <Extro> i think ive met you in one of the other channels lol
38: [06:57:00] <DesignerX> ok, is this fresh SS install? which theme (post link) & which SS version
39: [06:57:00] <Extro> latest ss
40: [06:58:00] <Extro> theres hardly any documentation on the themes :\
41: [06:58:00] <Extro> http://www.silverstripe.org/fancypants-theme/
42: [07:00:00] <DesignerX> most theme use the same file structure unless you customize it .. check themes/MyTheme/templates/Includes/ & look for Sidebar.ss or similar.. I will download & dhouble check the theme
43: [07:01:00] <Extro> how can i edit the sidebar in the ss panel more or less
44: [07:01:00] <Extro> where do i put sidebar.ss ?
45: [07:01:00] <Extro> wait
46: [07:01:00] <DesignerX> it already exists there
47: [07:02:00] <DesignerX> so far, this theme ( and most themes) will have an empty sidebar .
48: [07:03:00] <DesignerX> you need to custmoize it as you see fit, you can add anything you want there
49: [07:04:00] <Extro> i am a freelance web designer :p
50: [07:04:00] <DesignerX> so you new to "SS" not new to web design :D
51: [07:04:00] <DesignerX> Extro: have you done any work before with HTML/CSS/PHP?
52: [07:04:00] <Extro> new to all CMS
53: [07:04:00] <Extro> yea
54: [07:04:00] <Extro> yea
55: [07:05:00] <Extro> :)
56: [07:06:00] <DesignerX> ah, well, if you series about moving to CMS (which is great idea to start with SS), I would say go through the tutorials. It will take a bit of you time but its worth it.
57: [07:08:00] <DesignerX> to answer you question : the side bar has static text right now, but you can add anything. You will need to create loops, get content from other pages/objects or add widgets ,, what do you plan to add now ?
58: [07:09:00] <Extro> well theme my own designs for clients
59: [07:09:00] <Extro> well im just kinda seeing how the themes are done
60: [07:09:00] <Extro> because i want to theme some myself
61: [07:10:00] <Extro> and have it very simple to edit
62: [07:11:00] <Extro> i was going to read the book on silverstripe but couldnt find it on tpb lol
63: [07:17:00] <DesignerX> Extro: lolz.. there is no new book for SS3 yet, so you better of with the online tutorials, create themes for SS is easy . checkout www.designerx.com.au for some of my latest projects
64: [07:18:00] <DesignerX> Extro: quick start : http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/tutorials/1-building-a-basic-site
65: [07:18:00] <DesignerX> Extro:http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/
66: [07:19:00] <Extro> ahh
67: [07:19:00] <Extro> http://jonkell.com.au/ what did you do this with ?
68: [07:19:00] <DesignerX> thats wordpress , I had to use it when SS3 was still being developed
69: [07:19:00] <DesignerX> but the rest is SS
70: [07:20:00] <DesignerX> fir that website, I did not develop or design lolz .. I just bought the theme .. it was one hell of a job, couldnt customize anything :(
71: [07:21:00] <DesignerX> for SS , yep
72: [07:21:00] <Extro> say i wanted like a way to edit what the footer said
73: [07:21:00] <Extro> so modules and widgets
74: [07:21:00] <Extro> lol
75: [07:21:00] <Extro> would i make a module or a widget ?
76: [07:22:00] <DesignerX> I would say module
77: [07:23:00] <DesignerX> I am working to move all my website sections to widgets, but untill you learn more about SS module will do.
78: [07:24:00] <DesignerX> Extro: What I have is, I create a HomePage PageType and things like contact info, footer & header text went into "tabs" & "HTML Fields" on that page
79: [07:25:00] <DesignerX> then I do <% with page(home) %> $FooterText <% end_with %>
80: [07:28:00] <Extro> but can different content elements be edited by fields in the admin panel ?
81: [07:31:00] <Extro> might seem like a noob question lol
82: [07:32:00] <DesignerX> not sure if i get your question, but in the admin area, you can create unlimted Input fields .. lets say you want 3 sections in the foioter & each section has its own HTML Editor fields in the Admin? Can be done with few lines of code
83: [07:33:00] <Extro> oh alright haha
84: [07:33:00] <DesignerX> think this way, this is Object Oriented Framewok, you an have as many objects (text, images, files) as you want , you can manage them in many ways & display them anyhere you want
85: [07:34:00] <Extro> alrighty lol
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88: [07:36:00] <Extro> http://logs.simon.geek.nz/
89: [07:36:00] <Extro> dont you find the chat logging abit of a privacy breach ?
90: [07:37:00] <simon_w> And you're notified every time you join the channel (as per freenode's policy)
91: [07:37:00] <ss23> Extro: This is a public channel, so no, not in the slightest
92: [07:37:00] <ss23> Especially since those logs are immeasruably handy for people wanting help with Silverstripe
93: [07:37:00] <Extro> i guess so lol
94: [07:38:00] <ss23> Privacy is not dead, it's just opt-in.
95: [07:38:00] <Extro> mm
96: [07:39:00] <Extro> heh
97: [07:40:00] <ss23> I have ss23.geek.nz
98: [07:40:00] <ss23> AND IT SHALL BE A GLORIOUS DAY.
99: [07:40:00] <DesignerX> Extro: I have a testPage that has code examples, just cleaning it up & may help you to start off
100: [07:40:00] <Extro> im supprised by the amount of .geek.nz's are still available
101: [07:40:00] <ss23> One day I'm going to get rich and buy s.geek.nz from simon_w
102: [07:41:00] <Extro> :D
103: [07:41:00] <Extro> thanks DesignerX
104: [07:41:00] <Extro> i want to buy normal.geek.nz
105: [07:41:00] <Extro> so i can have just.a.normal.geek.nz
106: [07:42:00] <Extro> or just.the.usual.geek.nz
107: [07:42:00] <ss23> lol
108: [07:42:00] <simon_w> ss23, have fun with that :p
109: [07:43:00] <simon_w> domain_name: s.maori.nz
110: [07:43:00] <ss23> irogue always tells me I should get s.maori.nz
111: [07:43:00] <Extro> gogogo ss
112: [07:43:00] <ss23> lol simon_w
113: [07:43:00] <Extro> o.o
114: [07:43:00] <simon_w> query_status: 220 Available
115: [07:43:00] <simon_w> Eh
116: [07:43:00] <Extro> gogogo
117: [07:43:00] <Extro> 1 letter domain
118: [07:43:00] <Extro> query_status: 220 Available
119: [07:43:00] <Extro> domain_name: z.geek.nz
120: [07:44:00] <Extro> i once had ibomb.asia
121: [07:44:00] <Extro> ;___;
122: [07:45:00] <simon_w> Hmm, I wonder if I should stick the image hosting stuff from s.geek.nz on ss.org.nz and move ss.org.nz/3 to it before someone thinks about deleting it
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125: [08:01:00] <DesignerX> Extro: http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/517b85bf3fb84
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127: [08:04:00] <Extro> is this a page on a site ?
128: [08:06:00] <DesignerX> Extro: yeh .. it creates 2 fields and add them to a tab.. it has some other code that is not used now but can be helpful for later
129: [08:07:00] <Extro> uhggg vodka and sparkling duet isnt the best combination
130: [08:09:00] <Extro> ahh i get it more now DesignerX, thanks
131: [08:10:00] <DesignerX> Extro: kk, look at function getCMSFields() and static $db = array() , this is where most of the work is .. GL gtg now :)
132: [08:11:00] <Extro> cya thanks again
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155: [12:52:00] <willmorgan> hey guys
156: [12:53:00] <willmorgan> i'm trying to fix this bug: https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/issues/1777
157: [12:53:00] <willmorgan> who here can answer a few questions about SS 3's CMS validation?
158: [12:54:00] <willmorgan> specifically, i need to know if there are any other areas of the CMS that implement validation, and if so, how
159: [12:57:00] <test___> test
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201: [21:42:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/sapphire#2089 (master - 2e227ef : Will Rossiter): The build passed.
202: [21:42:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/compare/5a2b765025ad...2e227ef6ec2f
203: [21:42:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/sapphire/builds/6690789
204: [22:08:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/compare/9b99eb9339e0...8f6451612b9d
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206: [22:08:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/sapphire#2090 (3.1 - 8f64516 : Will Morgan): The build passed.
207: [22:08:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/sapphire/builds/6691367
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