#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 28 March 2013

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1: [00:00:00] <FrozenFire> Definitely to do with the casting change
2: [00:04:00] <FrozenFire> Annoyingly, I couldn't even fix it with explicit casting
3: [00:05:00] <terryapodaca> where do i report errors in the cms?
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5: [00:10:00] <markeaston> Hi - I'm using SS 3 and just trying to edit breadcrumbs I see that there is a breadcrumb template within cms/templates. I've tried to copy it into my theme but changes aren't picked up. Is there some easy way to d0 this these days? Most of the discussions I've found relate to SS2
6: [00:11:00] <markeaston> I have found am module on Github but was hoping I don;t need to use that
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8: [00:13:00] <FrozenFire> markeaston, You need to ?flush
9: [00:14:00] <FrozenFire> New templates will only be used after a flush
10: [00:16:00] <terryapodaca> FrozenFire: what's you github link?
11: [00:17:00] <markeaston> Frozenfire: aaah rookies mistake - cheers!
12: [00:17:00] <FrozenFire> terryapodaca, https://github.com/thefrozenfire Looking for something specific?
13: [00:18:00] <terryapodaca> module
14: [00:18:00] <terryapodaca> news
15: [00:18:00] <FrozenFire> Heh. Am I newsworthy?
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17: [00:19:00] <terryapodaca> it's not there?
18: [00:19:00] <terryapodaca> or was that not you?
19: [00:19:00] <FrozenFire> I have a news module?
20: [00:19:00] <terryapodaca> crap
21: [00:19:00] <FrozenFire> Nope.
22: [00:19:00] <FrozenFire> Are you looking for the newsletter module?
23: [00:20:00] <FrozenFire> I think ss23 had something bad to say about that.
24: [00:20:00] <terryapodaca> no, someone on here has a real nice news madule
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26: [00:20:00] <terryapodaca> module
27: [00:23:00] <terryapodaca> ok...found it
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29: [00:24:00] <terryapodaca> i guess Fire through me off on who it was
30: [00:24:00] <terryapodaca> Firesphere
31: [00:24:00] <Zauberfisch-home> ohai
32: [00:28:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/ajshort/sapphire/builds/5851837
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34: [00:28:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] ajshort/sapphire#32 (3.1 - 93578c8 : Andrew Short): The build is still failing.
35: [00:28:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/ajshort/sapphire/compare/b8a51c379231...93578c8d228d
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37: [00:30:00] <terryapodaca> i found it
38: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> terryapodaca, SilverSphere
39: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> search docs for casa
40: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> laguna-casa.com iirc
41: [00:31:00] <terryapodaca> and I found the module I wanted
42: [00:31:00] <terryapodaca> his github is https://github.com/Firesphere
43: [00:39:00] <terryapodaca> HomePage::$icon = array('themes/fray/images/icons/home','file'); <-- Does this not work in 3.0? in the config file?
44: [00:46:00] <terryapodaca> or does making custom tree icons not even work in SS3?
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47: [00:58:00] <Zauberfisch-home> terryapodaca my guess is that it doesn't allow you to do that anymore
48: [00:59:00] <Zauberfisch-home> but no idea
49: [00:59:00] <terryapodaca> weird...i can't get it to work anymore...and a couple modules i use don't work either
50: [00:59:00] <Pyromanik> terryapodaca, it's css in 3.0
51: [00:59:00] <Pyromanik> iirc
52: [00:59:00] <Zauberfisch-home> btw, you guys should really check out https://github.com/raket/idea-silverstripe
53: [00:59:00] <Zauberfisch-home> but it probably lets you set it via the config system
54: [00:59:00] <Pyromanik> based on ClassName
55: [00:59:00] <Zauberfisch-home> because a lot of statics are beeing turned private
56: [01:00:00] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch-home, what is a jetbrains?
57: [01:00:00] <Zauberfisch-home> intelliJ / PHPStorm / Webstorm silverstripe plugin
58: [01:00:00] <Zauberfisch-home> gets better each day
59: [01:00:00] <terryapodaca> I think you are correct Pyromanik
60: [01:00:00] <Zauberfisch-home> still in child shooes, but already cool
61: [01:00:00] <terryapodaca> so i guess in order to get custom icons i HAVE to modify the css and images?
62: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
63: [01:01:00] <Zauberfisch-home> Pyromanik I don't get your question
64: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> can I not <% elseif Blah OPERATORS stuff %>
65: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> ?
66: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch-home,
67: [01:01:00] <Zauberfisch-home> Pyromanik yes you should be able to
68: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> SilverStripe template plugin for Jetbrains IDEs
69: [01:01:00] <Pyromanik> what is a jetbrains?
70: [01:01:00] <Zauberfisch-home> ah
71: [01:02:00] <Pyromanik> o
72: [01:02:00] <Zauberfisch-home> jetbrains is the company that makes intelliJ, PHPStorm and Webstorm
73: [01:02:00] <Zauberfisch-home> Webstorm - HTML + CSS + JS (and some meta langs)
74: [01:02:00] <Zauberfisch-home> PHPStorm - PHP + HTML + CSS + JS (and some meta langs)
75: [01:02:00] <Pyromanik> Zauberfisch-home, and it's <% elseif %> rather than <% else if %> right?
76: [01:02:00] <lewellyn> how about an eclipse plugin? :)
77: [01:02:00] <Pyromanik> or is it <% else_if %>? ?
78: [01:03:00] <Zauberfisch-home> Pyromanik its <% else_if $Foo = 'Bar' %>
79: [01:03:00] <Pyromanik> thanks Zauberfisch-home :)
80: [01:03:00] <Zauberfisch-home> lewellyn eww
81: [01:03:00] <Zauberfisch-home> eclipse sucks for php
82: [01:03:00] <Zauberfisch-home> IntelliJ - Java + ruby + ... + ... + PHP + HTML + CSS + JS (and some meta langs)
83: [01:04:00] <Zauberfisch-home> PHPStorm is the fucking best PHP idea
84: [01:04:00] <lewellyn> Zauberfisch-home: agreed. :(
85: [01:04:00] <lewellyn> i'm just getting tired of a bajillion IDEs
86: [01:04:00] <Zauberfisch-home> use IntelliJ or PHPStorm
87: [01:04:00] <lewellyn> and half my stuff is eclipse-only these days
88: [01:05:00] <Zauberfisch-home> change to PHPStorm and you never have to change again :P
89: [01:05:00] <Zauberfisch-home> (it also has a setting to use eclipse key bindings, if you don't want to learn new shortcuts)
90: [01:05:00] <lewellyn> it's not the keybindings.
91: [01:05:00] <lewellyn> it's the "i'm tired of changing entire environments"
92: [01:05:00] <lewellyn> i'm getting old and curmudgeonly
93: [01:06:00] <lewellyn> except when i'm writing C/C++/HTML5/AIR/Android...
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95: [01:07:00] <Zauberfisch-home> jetbrains IDEs also support a great number of meta langs such as coffee script, type script, sass, scss, less, ...
96: [01:07:00] <Zauberfisch-home> built in GIT, SVN, HG (I am using GIT, and it actually works great, not like the crap buggy eclipse git plugin)
97: [01:08:00] <Zauberfisch-home> define
98: [01:08:00] <lewellyn> but they don't have target-platform-specific tooling...
99: [01:09:00] <lewellyn> i.e. code-signing and QML previewing and and and ;)
100: [01:09:00] <lewellyn> basically, it's only web stuff i don't do in eclipse these days
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102: [01:13:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] chillu/sapphire#108 (pulls/i18n-common-languages - 296e387 : Ingo Schommer): The build failed.
103: [01:13:00] <Pyromanik> Done.
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105: [01:13:00] <Pyromanik> QT Designer.
106: [01:13:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/sapphire/compare/e97c0349224f...296e387b47d6
107: [01:13:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/chillu/sapphire/builds/5851145
108: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> use the right tool for the job
109: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> Done.
110: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> unless there isn't one, then use the best tool for the job.
111: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> Code::Blocks
112: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> done.
113: [01:14:00] <Pyromanik> Notepad++
114: [01:17:00] <lewellyn> qt designer doesn't do Cascades ;)
115: [01:17:00] <lewellyn> that's why eclipse.
116: [01:18:00] <lewellyn> i have no clue wtf is up. lynx and curl have no problems loading the page instantly.
117: [01:18:00] <lewellyn> it's gotta be the js or css somehow
118: [01:18:00] <lewellyn> and i give up on this SS install again for the day.
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120: [01:47:00] <spronk> ruh roh
121: [01:47:00] <spronk> smashingmagazine is dead
122: [01:58:00] <Zauberfisch-home> :O
123: [01:58:00] <Pyromanik> spronk, ha, that'll learn them to use shit layouts on a shit 'cms'
124: [01:58:00] <Pyromanik> lewellyn, are you using chome perchance?
125: [02:00:00] <spronk> lul
126: [02:56:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/sapphire/builds/5851858
127: [02:56:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/compare/3c30c36b7120...93578c8d228d
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130: [02:56:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/sapphire#1807 (3.1 - 93578c8 : Andrew Short): The build was broken.
131: [03:50:00] <Pyromanik> wholey shit
132: [03:50:00] <Pyromanik> just saw the video of the Estonian entry for Eurovision this year
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165: [08:11:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] silverstripe/sapphire#1810 (3.1 - 469eaee : Ingo Schommer): The build was fixed.
166: [08:11:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/compare/93578c8d228d...469eaee4c1df
167: [08:11:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/sapphire/builds/5861951
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175: [08:22:00] <ocm> howdy!
176: [08:24:00] <bobdobbs> Hey guys. I'm playing with ss. Couldn't help but notice that the blog module isn't compatible with the latest version.
177: [08:24:00] <bobdobbs> Does anyone have any idea if or when there will be compatibility?
178: [08:26:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: Latest as in 3.0, or 3.1?
179: [08:26:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: In either case, it's probably not exceptionally hard to get it working, and it might be a good learning experience, however, if memory serves me rightly, the blog module is not exactly high quality code, so I would be wary of learning from the module itself
180: [08:27:00] <bobdobbs> hmmm. ok.
181: [08:28:00] <ajshort> where are you getting the blog module from?
182: [08:28:00] <bobdobbs> looks like I have silverstripe 3.0.5
183: [08:29:00] <bobdobbs> I'm still at real beginning stages of figuring things out. So far, I've got ss installed, and I've been playing with theming
184: [08:29:00] <bobdobbs> ajshort: http://www.silverstripe.org/blog-module/
185: [08:29:00] <bobdobbs> ajshort: I'll see. One sec...
186: [08:30:00] <bobdobbs> Is the curation poor or something?
187: [08:30:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: Blurgh, bad place to get it!
188: [08:30:00] <bobdobbs> oh, looks like that download should be compatible with the version of ss that I have
189: [08:30:00] <ajshort> yeah, don't get it from there :)
190: [08:30:00] <ajshort> the modules site is rubbis
191: [08:30:00] <bobdobbs> really?
192: [08:30:00] <bobdobbs> dang
193: [08:30:00] <bobdobbs> thats a little surprising
194: [08:30:00] <ss23> Git it from Github, where all the cool kids get it! :D
195: [08:31:00] <bobdobbs> well, I'll clone me the module, install it and play.
196: [08:31:00] <ajshort> although in this case it should work
197: [08:31:00] <ajshort> bobdobbs: make sure to grab the 0.6.* version, not master, as that's for 3.1
198: [08:32:00] <bobdobbs> hmmm
199: [08:32:00] <bobdobbs> ok
200: [08:32:00] <bobdobbs> thanks :)
201: [08:37:00] <bobdobbs> ajshort: If I want a specific version, shouldn't I clone master and then checkout version 0.6 ?
202: [08:37:00] <bobdobbs> or is there a quicker way to do it?
203: [08:39:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: The clone might take a while, but the checkout to 0.6 is nearly instant for me
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205: [08:43:00] <bobdobbs> Hm. I hadn't thought about it... I should probably really be experimenting with the most up-to-date version of ss.
206: [08:44:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: If I was learning today, I would learn on 3.0 :)
207: [08:44:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: I wouldn't, the most up to date version breaks often
208: [08:44:00] <bobdobbs> ok. I'll play it safe.
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212: [08:59:00] <bobdobbs> ok! progress being made! I've managed to install the widgets module and the blog module
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215: [09:06:00] <ss23> bobdobbs: Yay!
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217: [09:10:00] <bobdobbs> :)
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221: [09:45:00] <bobdobbs> Up until now I've been making sites with simple sites with wordpress. I'm getting pretty good at it. But I've been playing with SS. I'm asking myself: "At what point would I want to make the jump and make a site in silverstripe?"
222: [09:47:00] <ss23> (spoiler: wordpress is horrible and no one likes working with it. If we have to touch the code, we'd rather run away)
223: [09:47:00] <bobdobbs> ok
224: [09:47:00] <ss23> If it takes more than a default Wordpres install, then I'll use something else
225: [09:47:00] <ss23> If it's somethign I can do without installing any modules / extensions to Wordpress, I think Wordpress is fine
226: [09:47:00] <ss23> For me, its when it needs to be more than something simple
227: [09:47:00] <bobdobbs> What do you guys think?
228: [09:48:00] <bobdobbs> Yeah. I don't really like working with it when I encounter a problem I haven't solved before.
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230: [09:49:00] <ocm> is there something like a FileTreeDropdownField ?
231: [09:49:00] <bobdobbs> Like, every new problem that I encounter in wp seems to require covering completely new ground. Most everything I've learned before doesn't seem to matter.
232: [09:49:00] <ocm> like the sitetree, but just for files, for linking files instead of a page
233: [09:50:00] <webguest> dev mode is on
234: [09:50:00] <webguest> not possible
235: [09:50:00] <ocm> set to dev and see the error msg, if nog error msg from silverstripe check the php error logs
236: [09:50:00] <webguest> flush question, just changed the db user/ password, also changed in the config.php .... but the site remains white, did db/build?flush=1 ... dev/build?flush=1 ... dev/build?flush=all ... deleted the silverstripe-cache via the FTP, but the site remains WHITE :( what to do?
237: [09:51:00] <webguest> no error
238: [09:51:00] <webguest> there is nothing to debug, it need a way to flush proberly
239: [09:51:00] <webguest> but no message
240: [09:51:00] <webguest> cant get errors msg
241: [09:51:00] <ocm> debug(); ?
242: [09:51:00] <webguest> Director::set_environment_type("dev"); ini_set('display_errors', 'on');
243: [09:51:00] <ocm> whats in your error_logs ?
244: [09:52:00] <ocm> but cant remember what I did to fix it
245: [09:52:00] <ocm> I have had the same problem a while ago
246: [09:52:00] <webguest> 2.4
247: [09:52:00] <webguest> i had this issue on another site in the past, but db?flush=1 worked in that case
248: [09:52:00] <ocm> is it ss3 or 2.4?
249: [09:52:00] <webguest> its a cache problem
250: [09:52:00] <ocm> and the client called
251: [09:52:00] <ocm> it was late, I was drunk
252: [09:53:00] <ocm> did you just changed the db user/password? or a whole new database?
253: [09:53:00] <ss23> webguest: If your PHP is configured to not display errors, and you have a syntax error, you can get that behaviour
254: [09:54:00] <webguest> in the _config.php
255: [09:54:00] <webguest> inside plesk, renamed the db user and new password
256: [09:54:00] <webguest> i changed it to the new ones
257: [09:56:00] <ocm> hm, weird
258: [09:57:00] <webguest> please i need a solution
259: [09:57:00] <webguest> there is not error
260: [09:58:00] <ocm> if it was looking for the old db details
261: [09:58:00] <webguest> no errors, no messages
262: [09:58:00] <webguest> so the site remains white
263: [09:58:00] <webguest> but SS wants to connect to the old db details i guess
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265: [09:58:00] <ocm> or something like that
266: [09:58:00] <ocm> there should be something in your php error_log
267: [09:59:00] <ocm> those are not thet phplogs I guess from apache
268: [09:59:00] <webguest> where can i find these logs? my own logs remain at 0 bytes
269: [09:59:00] <webguest> error_log.txt and warning_log.txt
270: [09:59:00] <ocm> but the ones silverstripe writes?
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272: [10:00:00] <ocm> check the ones from your server
273: [10:00:00] <webguest> yes those are from SS
274: [10:02:00] <webguest> i only have access log
275: [10:02:00] <webguest> no php log...
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277: [10:11:00] <webguest> if SS runs, it works yes, but the page just stays white
278: [10:11:00] <webguest> this is ridiculous, why isnt there a way to flush everything when you've changed the db user/pass in the config :s
279: [10:11:00] <ocm> dev/build?flush=all should work
280: [10:11:00] <webguest> no changed it 4 times
281: [10:11:00] <ocm> maybe wrong credentials?
282: [10:11:00] <webguest> everything just stays white, like SS never "boots"
283: [10:18:00] <ajshort> you really need to get access to your error logs or enable displaying errors
284: [10:18:00] <ajshort> webguest: without an error to go on, it's going to be almost impossible to do anything to help you
285: [10:19:00] <webguest> thanks :) i googled white page, and put php error reporting in the htaccess, now i got an error, turned out a decorator class couldnt be found... srry for the trouble
286: [10:19:00] <ocm> good you found something
287: [10:19:00] <webguest> now im getting, Wrong parameter count for session_set_cookie_params()
288: [10:19:00] <ocm> haha
289: [10:19:00] <ocm> do you have access to your php.ini?
290: [10:19:00] <ocm> :)
291: [10:20:00] <webguest> need to find out where this is coming form
292: [10:20:00] <webguest> lol
293: [10:20:00] <ocm> webguest, this guy can help you with that: http://bit.ly/u7NnL8
294: [10:21:00] <ocm> heard he really likes cookies!
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296: [10:48:00] <webguest> there is little on the internet for SS
297: [10:48:00] <webguest> what can i do about the error: Wrong parameter count for session_set_cookie_params
298: [10:48:00] <webguest> when i set mode to dev, i get : Wrong parameter count for session_set_cookie_params - on every page
299: [10:48:00] <webguest> updated SS to 2.4.10
300: [10:48:00] <webguest> dont know if this is the problem
301: [10:49:00] <webguest> httpdocs/sapphire/core/Session.php
302: [10:55:00] <webguest> is it php version on server?
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314: [11:32:00] <svandragt> webguest: Possibly, the PHP manual page says "5.2.0 The httponly parameter was added" Can you check the file see if it uses that parameter, if so then you will need 5.2.0 I guess (no personal experience with SS2)
315: [11:32:00] <svandragt> hope that helps
316: [11:33:00] <svandragt> webguest: what version of php are you on?
317: [11:33:00] <svandragt> http://php.about.com/od/troubleshooting/qt/php_version.htm
318: [11:36:00] <svandragt> yep
319: [11:36:00] <bobdobbs> cool. thanks.
320: [11:36:00] <bobdobbs> So, if I gather correctly, the Page Type assigned to a page will determine which template the page is assigned. Is this right?
321: [11:37:00] <svandragt> Layout template to be exact (the main Page.ss gets loaded, the $Layout gets replaced with the template based on the page type, from the Layout folder)
322: [11:38:00] <bobdobbs> hm
323: [11:38:00] <svandragt> if that's not working you will need to ?flush=1
324: [11:38:00] <bobdobbs> I see
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326: [11:38:00] <svandragt> So if you made a pagetype HomePage it will look for templates/Layout/HomePage.ss
327: [11:39:00] <svandragt> to clear the template cache
328: [11:39:00] <bobdobbs> thanks
329: [11:41:00] <svandragt> BTW I'm seeing a lot of companies that can develop SS sites but have trouble finding one that can support SS developers, any ideas? preferable UK based. Like a support contract.
330: [11:44:00] <svandragt> ah found the local partners link
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337: [12:18:00] <ocm> why not the netherlands? more awesome overhere :D
338: [12:18:00] <ocm> svandragt, why UK based?
339: [12:22:00] <svandragt> that'd be fine. ocm I know I'm dutch :P
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342: [13:05:00] <ocm> since your name
343: [13:05:00] <ocm> I was assuming you have some dutchness in you
344: [13:05:00] <ocm> haha
345: [13:05:00] <ocm> I am dutch too :P
346: [13:05:00] <ocm> haha
347: [13:06:00] <chillu> Anybody keen to review this guide, and maybe even try it out if you have an SS module with unit tests? https://gist.github.com/chillu/5262316#file-howto-travis-silverstripe-md
348: [13:07:00] <ss23> Testing before.php locally Is this meant to be a literal reference to before.php, or a joke about how it's PHP, or a typo? :S
349: [13:09:00] <chillu> :D There is a file called before.php in the same gist
350: [13:10:00] <ss23> I didn't see it since it was scrolled down
351: [13:10:00] <ss23> oic oic
352: [13:10:00] <chillu> There you go, renamed it to travis_setup.php :)
353: [13:10:00] <ss23> haha
354: [13:11:00] <chillu> Yeah you can't control the order of files in a gist whcih cusk
355: [13:11:00] <ss23> My first thought was "wow how did he get a gist to go full screen?
356: [13:11:00] <chillu> sucks
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358: [13:12:00] <lewellyn> it's also unusable when you're sshing and using a text browser.
359: [13:12:00] <UndefinedOffset> ooo may give this a go chillu, expecially if webbuilders goes through with a plan we discussed a few weeks ago
360: [13:12:00] <lewellyn> i hate gist because if the js fails for some reason, you're staring at a blank page.
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362: [13:12:00] <lewellyn> i couldn't /openurl that :/
363: [13:13:00] <ss23> Click on Fork, sweet, and takes me to a 404, and I'm like ":/ what"
364: [13:13:00] <ss23> I have had lots of issues with Github lately and it'll just be like "404"
365: [13:13:00] <ss23> XD
366: [13:13:00] <lewellyn> i swear they're the new sourceforge.
367: [13:13:00] <ss23> lol
368: [13:13:00] <lewellyn> oh. now it works. wtf github.
369: [13:13:00] <g4b0> chillu: what do you think about moving http://open.silverstripe.org/ticket/8330 to 3.1.0-rc1 milestone?
370: [13:13:00] <lewellyn> or "oops. you wanted css with that?"
371: [13:14:00] <lewellyn> and let's just say that the pages get downright weird when there's no css and you start using the pages as if there was. the js doesn't expect that case. :)
372: [13:14:00] <chillu> g4b0: How about sending a PR?
373: [13:14:00] <g4b0> I really don't know where to look
374: [13:15:00] <g4b0> a possible workaround is to disable caching
375: [13:15:00] <lewellyn> chances are that almost everything of mine on github is outdated.
376: [13:15:00] <g4b0> do you think it's a good PR?
377: [13:15:00] <lewellyn> chillu: i only use github as a mirror. i hate using it. :/
378: [13:15:00] <g4b0> commenting the line
379: [13:15:00] <chillu> lewellyn: Yeah, I'm always annoyed that I didn't get a chauffeur with my free Rolls Royce ;)
380: [13:17:00] <g4b0> yes
381: [13:17:00] <chillu> g4b0: The lines don't match. Did you try the latest 3.1?
382: [13:17:00] <g4b0> but it's still there...
383: [13:17:00] <g4b0> the line just moved down a bit :)
384: [13:18:00] <Zauberfisch> hmm, I do like github
385: [13:18:00] <Zauberfisch> quiet a lot actually
386: [13:18:00] <g4b0> link 1415
387: [13:18:00] <g4b0> line*
388: [13:19:00] <g4b0> chillu: you can try to dump $versions just after $versions = $cache->load($cacheKey);
389: [13:19:00] <g4b0> but later in code we need an array
390: [13:19:00] <chillu> I'm on error_reporting(E_ALL | E_STRICT); and don't get any warnings
391: [13:19:00] <g4b0> it's a string
392: [13:20:00] <g4b0> I think it's an Ajax issue
393: [13:20:00] <g4b0> are you looking log file or on screen?
394: [13:24:00] <chillu> g4b0: Can you try this? https://gist.github.com/f8bbe0a87f3feab8946d
395: [13:24:00] <g4b0> off course
396: [13:25:00] <g4b0> just a second
397: [13:26:00] <g4b0> access to a page into CMS
398: [13:26:00] <g4b0> to reproduce the error
399: [13:26:00] <g4b0> and refresh the page
400: [13:28:00] <chillu> $versions = json_decode($versions, true);
401: [13:28:00] <g4b0> chillu: your patch doesn't work
402: [13:28:00] <g4b0> PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in /home/g4b0/Develop/ssdev-master/framework/admin/code/LeftAndMain.php on line 1440
403: [13:28:00] <g4b0> line 1440 says:
404: [13:28:00] <g4b0> if(!isset($versions[$moduleName])) {
405: [13:29:00] <chillu> I can't actually see the problem here, so kind of flying blind
406: [13:31:00] <g4b0> {"silverstripe\/cms":"dev-master","silverstripe\/framework":"dev-master"}
407: [13:31:00] <g4b0> but link 1440 does expect an array
408: [13:31:00] <g4b0> I'm dumping $versions
409: [13:39:00] <chillu> ajshort: https://gist.github.com/chillu/5262316 is a variation of your Travis work BTW. It doesn't use archives, since that's overkill for non-framework codebases
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411: [13:48:00] <g4b0> chillu: https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/pull/1344
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413: [13:48:00] <g4b0> I hope it works for all cases...
414: [13:49:00] <chillu> Did you try json_decode($versions, true)? I don't think it needs to be this complicated
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416: [13:49:00] <g4b0> mmm.. no :)
417: [13:50:00] <g4b0> No I will have a try
418: [13:51:00] <ocm> anyone knows where to disable the blog widgets?
419: [13:51:00] <ocm> it now displays double widgest since I have them already myself
420: [13:53:00] <g4b0> chillu: it works
421: [13:53:00] <g4b0> committed
422: [13:54:00] <chillu> … and merged
423: [13:54:00] <ss23> Yay!
424: [13:54:00] <ss23> Another accepted request from g4b0 ;)
425: [13:54:00] <chillu> Next time, please reference the open.ss.org issue in the commit message
426: [13:54:00] <ss23> lol
427: [13:55:00] <g4b0> which is the best way to do it? just link the ticket?
428: [13:55:00] <ss23> g4b0: Check the docs!
429: [13:55:00] <g4b0> ss23 ;)
430: [13:55:00] <ss23> g4b0: http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/trunk/misc/contributing/code
431: [13:55:00] <g4b0> RTFM XD
432: [13:56:00] <g4b0> fixes #<ticketnumber>
433: [13:56:00] <g4b0> ok
434: [13:56:00] <g4b0> next time
435: [13:58:00] <ss23> http://i.imgur.com/nNdGk7S.png dot picked the worst possible way to lay out this graph :<
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443: [14:09:00] <ARNHOE> I am having the following bug atm, Fatal error: Cannot access property UserDefinedForm_EmailRecipient::$summary_fields in
444: [14:10:00] <ARNHOE> This is in 3.1 and the latest userforms
445: [14:11:00] <ss23> ARNHOE: Check the 3.1 upgrade docs, theres a post in the google group about hat kind of error
446: [14:14:00] <ARNHOE> I can't find anything about that :o
447: [14:14:00] <ss23> Not specifically userforms
448: [14:14:00] <ss23> ARNHOE: I mean, the generic issue of "can't acces property"
449: [14:15:00] <ss23> ARNHOE: http://doc.silverstripe.org/framework/en/3.1/changelogs/3.1.0
450: [14:15:00] <ss23> ARNHOE: But I'm not 100%
451: [14:15:00] <ss23> At a *guess*, that's whats cauasing it
452: [14:15:00] <ss23> hmm
453: [14:15:00] <ss23> ARNHOE: Check the bit on "Static properties are immutable and private, you must use Config API"
454: [14:17:00] <ARNHOE> hmpf ;o
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456: [14:29:00] <Zauberfisch> ARNHOE I am pretty sure it is what ss23 said
457: [14:30:00] <Zauberfisch> but look on the bright side, this way you see if a module is out of date right away :P
458: [14:30:00] <Zauberfisch> a lot of modules will break with 3.1
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460: [14:32:00] <ocm> anyone here who has bene working with widgets and the blog module?
461: [14:32:00] <ss23> lol Zauberfisch
462: [14:32:00] <ocm> I have a double widgetarea in the cms
463: [14:33:00] <Zauberfisch> I am being serious, before 3.1 you can install a module, then you invest a few hours playing around with it until you realize the module is way out of date and just appeard to work at first glance
464: [14:34:00] <ARNHOE> oke, but weird part is Zauberfisch it has worked before. But its probably because the restrictions are more thight now
465: [14:34:00] <ss23> Module quality with Silverstripe is... low
466: [14:34:00] <ss23> Zauberfisch: That's *every* module!
467: [14:35:00] <Zauberfisch> ARNHOE the private stuff just got into 3.1 2 days ago or so
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471: [14:40:00] <UndefinedOffset> hey chillu i noticed yesterday that the tars for 3.0.5 don't include the htaccess changes to block yml files
472: [14:42:00] <chillu> Yes, that'll be fixed in the next minor release. It's not great, but more critical for 3.1.x releases
473: [14:44:00] <UndefinedOffset> ah ok figured i'd poke just to be sure since 3.0.4 had it listed on the release notes but looking i see it also doesn't have the change in the htaccess file
474: [14:45:00] <ajshort> damn it
475: [14:45:00] <ajshort> yay for pushing to silverstripe/sapphire a bunch accidentally :)
476: [14:45:00] <ajshort> git remote set-url does not want to co-operate
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482: [14:47:00] <ajshort> chillu: am I ok to delete https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/tree/pulls/datetimefield-field-setters?
483: [14:47:00] <chillu> ajshort: Is it merged?
484: [14:48:00] <ajshort> ah, that would make sense
485: [14:48:00] <chillu> ajshort: git remote set-url --push in addition. Common mistake
486: [14:49:00] <ajshort> chillu: yep, it's been merged in
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507: [15:55:00] <g4b0> do you know any good module for build a google sitemap (SS 3.1) ?
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509: [15:57:00] <ocm> googlesitemap module? :P
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511: [15:58:00] <mattybalaam> I am trying to update a site to take advantage of the latest 3.1 features. Previously I would use $theme = SSViewer::current_theme(); to get the current theme, but it tells me to use SSViewer.theme
512: [15:58:00] <mattybalaam> How would I convert my current code, which is in Page.php
513: [16:00:00] <mattybalaam> OK, sorry I have found an answer: $theme = Config::inst()->get('SSViewer', 'theme');
514: [16:12:00] <g4b0> ocm: where do I can get it? github?
515: [16:21:00] <ARNHOE> damn...
516: [16:21:00] <ARNHOE> Guys please help me, I am having a big manifest bug atm and I have no idea what to do. assets and silverstripe-cache are 777 and there are files in there, http://www.kenze.nl/v1/
517: [16:22:00] <ARNHOE> thanks anyway
518: [16:22:00] <ARNHOE> when I ask for help, then it start sworking
519: [16:23:00] <elgrodo> 777 is not good unless you control the entire machine, as anyone could write to those directories/files
520: [16:24:00] <ARNHOE> what do you suggest then?
521: [16:28:00] <ocm> @mattybalaam https://github.com/silverstripe-labs/silverstripe-googlesitemaps
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523: [16:28:00] <ocm> arnhoe, what is the bug? the site is just loading here
524: [16:28:00] <ocm> last hopes always get it to work
525: [16:28:00] <ARNHOE> yeah, as I said one second later and tried my last hope, then actually got it working
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527: [16:29:00] <ocm> that is why religion is such a big thing
528: [16:29:00] <ARNHOE> haha
529: [16:29:00] <ss23> And the Google Sitemaps module has the "I didn't find SQLi in 3 greps" seal of approval!
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531: [16:32:00] <elgrodo> arnhoe: Only allow the user running the webserver (e.g. www-data) to be able to write
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538: [17:04:00] <svandragt> So how do people migrate data if a field is moved from one dataobject to another, I've been searching through source but there doesn't seem to be a way to tell Silverstripe that this has happened. There is code to deal with field type changes but not with structural schema changes? Am I right?
539: [17:04:00] <svandragt> (as I am considering using the framework for a project that's not a CMS; I don't want to lose data)
540: [17:07:00] <svandragt> I see class MyMigrationTask extends BuildTask, but it's description says "not yet implemented" and I'm not sure if that's what i was looking for :P
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542: [17:09:00] <svandragt> I think it's in the change log
543: [17:09:00] <MattyBalaam> Does anyone know how to extend Site Config in 3.1.0?
544: [17:10:00] <svandragt> MattyBalaam: ^
545: [17:11:00] <MattyBalaam> I've done the config.yml change, but it gives me [Warning] Invalid argument supplied for foreach()
546: [17:14:00] <MattyBalaam> OK, I had missed out on a dash before the name of the extension class
547: [17:15:00] <MattyBalaam> Should that dash be used every time I use a DataExtension?
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557: [17:35:00] <Shrike_Finland> Do we have .FirstPage method on PaginatedList?
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578: [18:22:00] <FrozenFire> Might also block other web-based ones
579: [18:22:00] <azureKnight> So, here in the office, I can't get to it, for fear of opening up the network to malware.
580: [18:22:00] <azureKnight> It's not that, apparently opendns detects malware at irc.freenode.net
581: [18:22:00] <FrozenFire> I know that Freenode blocks Mibbit
582: [18:22:00] <azureKnight> Man, I cannot get into here through my irc apps anymore. :/
583: [18:22:00] <FrozenFire> Meh, that's your fault for using OpenDNS. :P
584: [18:23:00] <ss23> Or change your DNS server, azureKnight
585: [18:23:00] <azureKnight> I'm just a lowly programmer.
586: [18:23:00] <azureKnight> Trust me, not my decision.
587: [18:23:00] <ss23> Quit!
588: [18:24:00] <azureKnight> The first suggestion was only slightly extreme.
589: [18:24:00] <azureKnight> Anyways. I'm not here to complain about that.
590: [18:24:00] <azureKnight> ;)
591: [18:24:00] <azureKnight> Lol...
592: [18:25:00] <azureKnight> If I'm going to use the DatetimeField, would I set the local date/time in my _config.php?
593: [18:26:00] <azureKnight> Because when I'm running SS locally, anytime I try and make the time in the timefield into a pm, it automatically forces am.
594: [18:29:00] <azureKnight> If I type in 12:00:00 it does pm.
595: [18:30:00] <azureKnight> But anything between 1-00 gives me am.
596: [18:31:00] <azureKnight> Overall. I'm wondering if it's a ss 3.0.5 issue or not. I gotta test it on some older versioned sites I have.
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599: [18:35:00] <azureKnight> Ok... Looks like it does actually show up as what you make it, on the SS. But in the CMS it doesn't display the time you put in... Like, I put 17:00:00 in my cms, then it shows me 5:00:00 AM
600: [18:35:00] <azureKnight> Woah!
601: [18:36:00] <ss23> :<
602: [18:36:00] <ss23> I typo'd while making fun of your typo
603: [18:36:00] <ss23> fuck
604: [18:36:00] <ss23> $178 aye?
605: [18:36:00] <ss23> haha
606: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> 17:00:00*
607: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> Er.
608: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> But the ss rendered the date as $17
609: [18:36:00] <ss23> XD
610: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> Now I don't feel so stupid.
611: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> It's ok.
612: [18:36:00] <azureKnight> :D
613: [18:44:00] <azureKnight> And to confirm. SS still can't handle > < in their if's right?
614: [18:52:00] <ss23> http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif CSS!
615: [18:55:00] <azureKnight> Woah. Double post.
616: [18:55:00] <azureKnight> Lol.
617: [18:55:00] <azureKnight> Looks about right.
618: [18:55:00] <FrozenFire> azureKnight, Just FYI, you should *always* set your PHP timezone to UTC
619: [18:55:00] <azureKnight> ?
620: [18:55:00] <azureKnight> ?
621: [18:56:00] <FrozenFire> And then you set your *locale settings* to another timezone.
622: [18:57:00] <FrozenFire> I think it's SS_DateTime::Nice() that produces it based on that
623: [18:57:00] <FrozenFire> Date/time formatting itself can be managed through admin/myprofile
624: [18:58:00] <azureKnight> Ok. Further into this I discovered. If you do $date -> that gives you the full date with the time you put in.
625: [18:58:00] <azureKnight> If you do $Date.Time -> That returns the time that SS is forcing itself to go to, which is not what I put.
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628: [18:59:00] <FrozenFire> But the DB field type.
629: [18:59:00] <FrozenFire> Not the form field type, that is
630: [18:59:00] <FrozenFire> What is the field type?
631: [18:59:00] <azureKnight> What did you say, FrozenFire
632: [18:59:00] <azureKnight> Ugh.
633: [19:00:00] <azureKnight> SS_datetime
634: [19:00:00] <FrozenFire> Not the form field type, that is
635: [19:00:00] <FrozenFire> What is the field type?
636: [19:00:00] <MattyBalaam> What am I doing wrong here? On a page I have a has_one: 'myfile' => 'file'. It uploads fine into assets, I can see it in the table with myfileID of '18', but if I try and call $myfile.Link I just get 'assets/' or if I try $myfile.ID I get '0'
637: [19:00:00] <ss23> FrozenFire... how could you say that...
638: [19:00:00] <ss23> :O
639: [19:00:00] <ss23> 07:59:18 < FrozenFire> I hate azureKnight the worst. I'm going to pretend I didn't say this wheen he comes back though
640: [19:00:00] <FrozenFire> But the DB field type.
641: [19:01:00] <azureKnight> :O
642: [19:01:00] <FrozenFire> ss23, Haven't had enough caffeine today. Couldn't help it.
643: [19:01:00] <ss23> XD
644: [19:01:00] <FrozenFire> Saw a chance to bitch at someone behind their back.
645: [19:01:00] <azureKnight> What did he say?
646: [19:01:00] <ss23> haha, damn FrozenFire
647: [19:01:00] <azureKnight> I know where this is going...
648: [19:01:00] <azureKnight> :'(
649: [19:03:00] <azureKnight> Anyways. It's the SS_Datetime
650: [19:03:00] <azureKnight> Love you too FrozenFire :)
651: [19:06:00] <azureKnight> Ah... I see.
652: [19:06:00] * azureKnight just finished checking the logs.
653: [19:07:00] <FrozenFire> :P
654: [19:08:00] <azureKnight> Lol. I wasn't checking for that. I'm checking for your wisdom.
655: [19:08:00] <FrozenFire> I hacked into them and changed them
656: [19:08:00] <azureKnight> Not your hate of me.
657: [19:10:00] <azureKnight> And I can understand that I'm frustrating cause I'm obviously trying to do stuff bigger than my skillset, if you don't want to help, I totally understand. I know I'd have trouble with me. lol.
658: [19:15:00] <azureKnight> :)
659: [19:17:00] <azureKnight> And it's SS_Datetime
660: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> Heh. Not at all. I strongly encourage you to reach beyond your skillset.
661: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> I'm all about that.
662: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> I did re-send my messages, earlier, though.
663: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> I'll do it again.
664: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> What is the field type?
665: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> Not the form field type, that is
666: [19:17:00] <FrozenFire> But the DB field type.
667: [19:17:00] <azureKnight> Haha. Thanks. I appreciate that. And seriously, you, Pyro and all the guys in here and have been super helpful. Thanks so much.
668: [19:18:00] <azureKnight> And looking into it, I tested a normal Time Db field, and the TimeField(), still showing up AM.
669: [19:19:00] <FrozenFire> Yeah, it probably depends on how you're setting the date, what your timezone is set to, what MySQL's timezone is set to, etc.
670: [19:19:00] <FrozenFire> That's why time *sucks*
671: [19:19:00] <azureKnight> But on my 3.0.5 it's forcing it to be am.
672: [19:19:00] <azureKnight> I checked it on a 3.0.3 site I have locally, and it works like a charm.
673: [19:20:00] <azureKnight> Yeah... I'd much rather just leave it at the Date for showing and hiding. I think the client will be chill with that.
674: [19:20:00] <FrozenFire> So many variables to consider
675: [19:20:00] <azureKnight> But had to at least test it first.
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677: [19:22:00] <azureKnight> ss23: how goes your cssing stuff?
678: [19:22:00] <azureKnight> Thank ya.
679: [19:24:00] <catcher> speaking of css, anyone here have a reliable way to style form field autofill popups? I know they're pretty well browser-drive, though I do see my font size being inherited.
680: [19:25:00] <catcher> azureKnight, I'm talking about the browser element that pops up when you've previously typed a val in a form field before.
681: [19:25:00] <azureKnight> catcher: wouldn't the auto-fill have to be a javascript based fill?
682: [19:26:00] <azureKnight> -moz- for mozilla.
683: [19:26:00] <azureKnight> -webkit- for safari / chrome
684: [19:26:00] <azureKnight> I believe you'd have to write the statement per-browser then.
685: [19:27:00] <azureKnight> So on. And you'd have to set the specifics for each one of those browsers specifically. If you're using a jquery/ajax/javascript/mootools based auto-fill, then you can style it specifically. but I think for any other, you'd have to hit each browsers specifics.
686: [19:29:00] <catcher> FrozenFire, the html element is called 'autofill'
687: [19:29:00] <FrozenFire> Do you mean styling the placeholder?
688: [19:29:00] <azureKnight> If you're desperate to get not have per-browser auto-fills, I'd suggest using one of the previous listed libraries methods, or just turn autofill off. <input type="text" autocomplete="off">
689: [19:29:00] <FrozenFire> catcher, Auto-fill pop-ups?
690: [19:31:00] <catcher> Yeah, I'll probably end up disabling the browser autothingy, and drop in a jQuery autocomplete.
691: [19:32:00] <azureKnight> As far as I know, from reading and personal tests, it's that or trying to do a per-browser code.
692: [19:32:00] <azureKnight> I'd do the jquery, personally. :)
693: [19:32:00] <catcher> the question then is how to add the disable property to an SS form field without breaking it alllll the way down in a template.
694: [19:36:00] <catcher> though if I'm js'ing fields, I s'pose I can just do it there.
695: [19:46:00] <MattyBalaam> OK, idiot of the day award for me above: I was looking at the live page, and I had only saved not published. c_c
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698: [19:58:00] <FrozenFire> That's a very bad idea
699: [19:58:00] <FrozenFire> catcher, I'd not recommend messing with that autofill stuff
700: [20:01:00] <FrozenFire> That sounds like a different issue, then
701: [20:01:00] <FrozenFire> It *should* inherit the field's font-size
702: [20:01:00] <catcher> FrozenFire, required to use a very small webfont, and the autofill is inheriting my font-size for a huge autofill.
703: [20:02:00] <azureKnight> I'm with FrozenFire
704: [20:02:00] <catcher> It's not my webfont to adjust
705: [20:02:00] <azureKnight> Have you done any universal selectors of the font?
706: [20:02:00] <azureKnight> Er, field not font.
707: [20:03:00] <azureKnight> such as: input {font-size: 14em;}
708: [20:03:00] <azureKnight> With no classes or ids before it
709: [20:03:00] <azureKnight> ?
710: [20:03:00] <catcher> indeed
711: [20:04:00] <catcher> As it should apply site-wide
712: [20:04:00] <catcher> basically yes, form input.text
713: [20:06:00] <azureKnight> Have you thought about just changing the font when it goes down to mobile?
714: [20:07:00] <catcher> I need the same font non-mobile as well
715: [20:07:00] <azureKnight> Or full stop, for all you other countries.
716: [20:07:00] <azureKnight> So, why not just make the font bigger period?
717: [20:08:00] <azureKnight> input[value] {font-size: 18px; }
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720: [20:09:00] <catcher> 'cause then the autofill is also 18px
721: [20:10:00] <azureKnight> But from what I can tell, the auto-complete follows the style of your field.
722: [20:10:00] <catcher> (in my example, larger)
723: [20:10:00] <azureKnight> That wouldn't be a bad idea.
724: [20:10:00] <catcher> but maybe I apply a class to my input fields instead of giving them the font-family
725: [20:11:00] <azureKnight> At least with the font-size and width.
726: [20:13:00] <azureKnight> Though... I don't think this is what you want, but you can always change the font-size when it's the item you're focused on.
727: [20:15:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/chillu/silverstripe-cms/compare/7ce0bb73719e...a1934f05bc9a
728: [20:15:00] <catcher> hm, seems applying a class to the input fields themselves won't work either.
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754: [21:02:00] <SphereSilver> Anyone here working on the translatable-module for 3?
755: [21:10:00] <FrozenFire> Actually, that was UncleCheese
756: [21:10:00] <FrozenFire> Good question
757: [21:10:00] <FrozenFire> I need that for an upcoming project.
758: [21:10:00] <FrozenFire> I think UndefinedOffset had made a TranslatableDataObject module?
759: [21:11:00] <FrozenFire> I think a few people have updated it
760: [21:11:00] <FrozenFire> There's also that
761: [21:11:00] <FrozenFire> https://github.com/silverstripe/silverstripe-translatable
762: [21:12:00] <FrozenFire> But I think it's 3.1
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788: [21:24:00] <SphereSilver> Working on fixing stuff to make it backward compatible, but it's far from usable.
789: [21:24:00] <SphereSilver> FrozenFire: It's quite buggy on PHP 5.4
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796: [21:26:00] <chillu> Sorry for the spam guys, Travis doesn't allow to turn off IRC notifications on forks...
797: [21:27:00] <FrozenFire> Through their interface
798: [21:27:00] <FrozenFire> Might be wrong
799: [21:27:00] <FrozenFire> I think it does
800: [21:32:00] <lewellyn> chillu: the most annoying part is the parts and joins :/
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869: [23:40:00] <bobdobbs> but my site isn't switching over to my theme.
870: [23:40:00] <bobdobbs> What could I be doing wrong?
871: [23:40:00] <bobdobbs> Hello hackers of easter. I'm walking throught the 'theme-development' tut. I've gotten as far as editing _config.php...
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