#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 23 March 2013

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1: [00:00:00] <Zauberfisch> well, the code itself is to tied to the client and company at the moment
2: [00:00:00] <jerry_> zuberfisch: do you have just the skeleton, with no actual data on it? ;)
3: [00:01:00] <jerry_> googling ...
4: [00:01:00] <Zauberfisch> but it at least gives you the info that it is possible (actually pretty easy) to use gridfield in frontend
5: [00:02:00] <Zauberfisch> but there is no good documentation for gridfield, and expecialy none for frotnend
6: [00:02:00] <jerry_> http://www.silverstriperesources.com/articles/using-the-silverstripe-3-gridfield/
7: [00:03:00] <jerry_> wouldn't be neat if there is a cookbook with ss? :-)
8: [00:04:00] <FrozenFire> Cookbooks promote bad development practises.
9: [00:04:00] <FrozenFire> Meh.
10: [00:05:00] <jerry_> ok ... what about cookbook for newbies?
11: [00:05:00] <jerry_> that implies ... if you are a coder ... you are called for higher coding standard
12: [00:06:00] <jerry_> for a network engineer ... ss3 presents an interesting challenge :)
13: [00:11:00] <Zauberfisch> what should I do with those?
14: [00:11:00] <Zauberfisch> chillu what do you mean with keywords?
15: [00:12:00] <chillu> There's a "keywords" field in Trac. They're all useless, apart from the "easy" keyword which I think its going to be helpful going forward, for beginners to start looking where they can contribute
16: [00:16:00] <jerry_> good night chillu
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19: [00:16:00] <chillu> Alright, I'm off to bed - gute Nacht!
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34: [01:49:00] <SquidOnATrampoli> Hey I'm getting an error trying to include a template
35: [01:49:00] <SquidOnATrampoli> using <% include Slider %> on Forum_show.ss
36: [01:50:00] <SquidOnATrampoli> [User Warning] None of these templates can be found in theme 'myTheme': Slider.ss
37: [01:56:00] <SquidOnATrampoli> nvm solved it, forgot to flush lol
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62: [05:54:00] <jerry_> does anyone know whether Gridfield will work on *non-admin* area? the articles/tutorials I've seen so far did it from the admin area
63: [05:54:00] <jerry_> I'd like to let logged-in user to do CRUD on DataObject
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67: [07:31:00] <simon_w|air> [12:40:53] <FrozenFire> Mmmm, I really wish SS's template system supported variables as parameters in method calls, and also <% include %> parameters
68: [07:32:00] <ss23> I really wish MySQL didn't suck
69: [07:32:00] <simon_w|air> It does. $Blah($Foo) and <% include Blah Foo=$Baz %>
70: [07:36:00] <simon_w|air> So, it turns out that neither my server, Mail.app nor the iPad mail like the ~2k emails Zauberfisch-idle generated for me
71: [07:38:00] <simon_w|air> And now Safari's having a hard time ticking all those checkboxes
72: [07:38:00] <ss23> lol wut
73: [07:38:00] <simon_w|air> That's what I was thinking
74: [07:41:00] <simon_w|air> Fuck.
75: [07:41:00] <simon_w|air> "Index on /var/mail/simon is corrupt - did not find expected message start at line 12644880"
76: [07:42:00] <ss23> echo -n "" > /var/mail/simon
77: [07:42:00] <simon_w|air> Not at all
78: [07:42:00] <ss23> fixed
79: [07:43:00] <simon_w|air> And webmin has really weird way of deleting emails
80: [07:48:00] * simon_w|air turns off postfix first
81: [07:48:00] <simon_w|air> Oh, I think I know what I may need to do
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85: [08:02:00] <catcher> I've got a custom form subclass that renders a custom template, etc. My action detects a problem with the data and Controller::curr()->redirectBack(); after setting a sessionMessage. The form reloads with no data - how can I make it persist?
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87: [08:05:00] <simon_w|air> Look at what the validate() method on Form does when validation fails. Do that.
88: [08:06:00] <catcher> makes sense, ty
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96: [09:29:00] <simon_w|air> Woo, Webmin's stopped having a fit! I can hopefully delete these 1800 emails now :)
97: [09:30:00] <ss23> yay!
98: [09:30:00] <simon_w|air> You try using SSH to delete 1800 emails from a mbox file :p
99: [09:30:00] <ss23> Webmin always seemed a little too... fincky for me. Seemed like it was easier to just SSH in and do things 90% of the time
100: [09:31:00] <ss23> :D
101: [09:31:00] <ss23> DO IT MAN
102: [09:31:00] <ss23> 20:43:03 < ss23> echo -n "" > /var/mail/simon
103: [09:31:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Hey, I just told you how
104: [09:31:00] <ss23> When I was testing the newsletter module, I had postfix installed but not configured, so I would just run less on my /var/mail/ss23 to see whether the emails looked how I expected.
105: [09:31:00] <ss23> (Disclaimer: I have no idea about email on linux)
106: [09:31:00] <simon_w|air> No, you told me how to delete them all
107: [09:32:00] <simon_w|air> Have you made another commit locally?
108: [09:32:00] <ss23> I kind of want to remove the old commit and add this new one, or hsould I just add this new one, or what?
109: [09:32:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: I changed my patch to use SHOW GRANTS. How to "revise" pull request?
110: [09:33:00] <simon_w|air> You'll overwrite the old commit and update the pull request
111: [09:33:00] <ss23> :D
112: [09:33:00] <simon_w|air> Goody
113: [09:33:00] <ss23> Not yet
114: [09:33:00] <ss23> Cool, sweet :D
115: [09:33:00] <simon_w|air> Just use git commit --amend and git push --force
116: [09:34:00] <simon_w|air> It is
117: [09:34:00] <ss23> ty simon_w|air, you're the best!
118: [09:34:00] <ss23> Although I just realised this code is still buggy.
119: [09:34:00] <ss23> MySQL is A+ retarded
120: [09:34:00] <ss23> Just FYI, in case anyone wasn't sure.
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122: [09:41:00] <simon_w|air> That queue is flooded
123: [09:41:00] <simon_w|air> "2309 mail messages matching noreply@github.com"
124: [09:41:00] <simon_w|air> (postfix, to deliver to local queue)
125: [09:42:00] <ss23> lol
126: [09:42:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, how am I supposed to fix this one then? :p
127: [09:42:00] <ss23> Have you tried turning it off and on again?!
128: [09:43:00] <ss23> Hmm
129: [09:43:00] <simon_w|air> Turning it on again tries delivering them
130: [09:43:00] <ss23> Lame!
131: [09:46:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: There! Changed to usinw SHOW GRANTS ^.^
132: [09:46:00] * ss23 will go around updating the other DB modules now
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134: [09:49:00] <simon_w|air> Wanna make a comment so I get an email? :p
135: [09:51:00] <ss23> :D
136: [09:51:00] <simon_w|air> Well then, wanna poke backupmx.rimuhosting.com so I get it? :p
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138: [09:51:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: I did!
139: [09:53:00] <ss23> wait
140: [09:53:00] <ss23> wtf
141: [09:54:00] <ss23> halp
142: [09:54:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, looks like you didn't add the change files
143: [09:54:00] <simon_w|air> try git commit -a --amend
144: [09:54:00] <ss23> it says the commit is the old one, simon_w|air?
145: [09:54:00] <ss23> Yeah, going to guess thats the issue
146: [09:55:00] <ss23> Much better!
147: [09:55:00] <Shrike_Finland> Hi, short question. How to control loop to select second from the list? <% loop PublishedNews.First %> selects only the first, but I'd like to also skip the first on second loop so?
148: [09:56:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Yeah. I tested with as many variations as I could. So, a root user with all permissions, then a user with specific permissions for a single DB (lots of variations of that)
149: [09:56:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Was lucky I caught the issue with "ALTER ROUTINES" tbh :/
150: [09:56:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, got a my.cnf you can edit?
151: [09:56:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Uh, yeah, of course
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153: [09:56:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, you've tested this on localhost right?
154: [09:57:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, can you try set sql_mode to ANSI?
155: [09:57:00] <Shrike_Finland> Simon: thanx a lot!
156: [09:57:00] <ss23> Sure, will test that now, simon_w|air
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158: [09:57:00] <simon_w|air> Shrike_Finland, <% with $PublishedNews.offsetGet(1) %>
159: [09:58:00] <simon_w|air> Just looking at my grants, and seeing things that'd break :)
160: [09:58:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: An underscore should be fine, right?
161: [09:58:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, also, a database with an underscore in it
162: [09:59:00] <simon_w|air> http://www.sspaste.com/paste/show/514d7d0e02e47
163: [09:59:00] <simon_w|air> Not when the grant's just on that database
164: [10:01:00] <ss23> Urgh
165: [10:01:00] <ss23> MySQL is so horrible
166: [10:01:00] <simon_w|air> Should be $databaseConfig['database'] passed through $conn->real_escape_string
167: [10:02:00] <simon_w|air> Hmm, maybe not
168: [10:02:00] <simon_w|air> You may also want to test with a % too
169: [10:02:00] <ss23> real_escape_string doesn't escape _'s though does it?
170: [10:03:00] <ss23> I dream of a Linux with marginally less retarded error messages and usability.
171: [10:03:00] <ss23> wtf Ubuntu...
172: [10:03:00] <simon_w|air> Given that they're special in LIKE, they may be escaped
173: [10:03:00] <ss23> Yep, will do that when I fix MySQL, simon_w|air
174: [10:03:00] <ss23> stop: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
175: [10:03:00] <ss23> WTF DIS MEAN
176: [10:03:00] <ss23> oh, forgot sudo
177: [10:03:00] <ss23> :/
178: [10:03:00] <simon_w|air> duh :p
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181: [10:19:00] <ss23> ;_;
182: [10:19:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Kill me
183: [10:19:00] <ss23> Who new "check whether user has X permission" was so horribly horribly hard in MySQL.
184: [10:25:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: I did, it's even worse
185: [10:25:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, ooh, ooh
186: [10:25:00] <simon_w|air> Have a look at the information_schema.SCHEMA_PRIVILEGES table
187: [10:26:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Biggest probelm is that global privledges aren't in there in the first place, so you still have to check SHOW GRANTS, but besides that, the GRANTEE stuff that you would use to find out which applies to which? Doesn't follow any of the same syntax as the CURRENT_USER() etc functions, so you end up having to parse that manually anyway
188: [10:28:00] <simon_w|air> Would be so much nicer if the mysql database behaved more like information_schema
189: [10:31:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> haha
190: [10:32:00] <ss23> :O
191: [10:32:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> simon_w|air sorry
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193: [10:32:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> if it makes you feel any better, chillu probably got something around 4k emails :D
194: [10:32:00] <ss23> Zauberfisch-idle: What did you do?
195: [10:32:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> ss23 I am migrating the silverstripe tickets from trac to github issues
196: [10:33:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> I have a script that takes the tickets and uses the github api to create issues
197: [10:33:00] <ss23> Zauberfisch-idle: OH OH ME TOO :D
198: [10:33:00] <ss23> But given you said 4k, I think you did more than I migrated
199: [10:33:00] <ss23> :O
200: [10:33:00] <Shrike_Finland> simon_w|air: one thing more about tempaltes: how can I loop with skipping the first as <% loop PublishedNews.offsetGet(1) %> selects only item two. Idea is to skip first news and start looping from the second one.
201: [10:33:00] <simon_w|air> I still do see why it's a good idea, especially since one of Ingo's advantages is more a disadvantage
202: [10:33:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: Do, or don't?
203: [10:34:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> and the script assigns the the owner of the trac ticket as assignee of the github issue
204: [10:34:00] <simon_w|air> ss23, doh. don't
205: [10:34:00] <simon_w|air> Shrike_Finland, <% loop $PublishedNews %><% if not $First %> ...
206: [10:34:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: I think it makes sense for the modules
207: [10:34:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> and once you get assinged, you get an email
208: [10:36:00] <Shrike_Finland> simon_w|air: and if I want to skip 3 of the first ones?
209: [10:36:00] <simon_w|air> Shrike_Finland, right a function that does a better limit
210: [10:37:00] <Shrike_Finland> thanx
211: [10:37:00] <Shrike_Finland> simon_w|air: so true!
212: [10:38:00] <Shrike_Finland> what? late? 12:38? :D
213: [10:38:00] <ss23> simon_w|air: You're up late tonight, btw :O
214: [10:38:00] <simon_w|air> Not really
215: [10:39:00] <simon_w|air> 9% battery, getting late
216: [10:39:00] <ss23> lol
217: [10:39:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> simon_w|air I see that github issues bring some limitations
218: [10:39:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> but its still better than trac
219: [10:39:00] <simon_w|air> And?
220: [10:39:00] <simon_w|air> If you're migrating, migrate to something *good*
221: [10:40:00] <ss23> JIRA!
222: [10:40:00] <simon_w|air> Also, trac is better. It's just that it's not used :p
223: [10:41:00] <simon_w|air> If I remember, I'll detail some of the problems with this to the mailing list tomorrow
224: [10:41:00] <simon_w|air> For now, to the bed!
225: [10:41:00] <ss23> nn simon_w|air
226: [10:42:00] <ss23> lol
227: [10:42:00] <ss23> tx for the info on why my patch sucks :D
228: [10:42:00] * ss23 fixes
229: [10:42:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> good night simon_w
230: [10:42:00] <simon_w|air> No spamming me this time Zauberfisch-idle :p
231: [10:42:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> haha
232: [10:43:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> that repo is no longer used
233: [10:43:00] <simon_w|air> And I stopped watching that repository :)
234: [10:43:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> thats just 1,2k
235: [10:43:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> just migrating open tickets
236: [10:43:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> I already limited the queries now
237: [10:44:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> to seperate by issue type
238: [10:44:00] <ss23> Urgh, finding more bugs in the installer...
239: [10:44:00] <ss23> Not even related to this bug :<
240: [10:44:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> I now have ss-framework-issues and ss-cms-issues
241: [10:44:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> but I can put you on the watch list of those 2 if you want >:D
242: [10:45:00] <ss23> that feel when XSS in the installer which breaks everything.
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244: [10:48:00] <ss23> Nothing :<
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246: [10:48:00] <UncleCheese> hmm?
247: [10:48:00] * ss23 blames UncleCheese
248: [10:48:00] <ss23> IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
249: [10:49:00] <UncleCheese> Use Oracle.
250: [10:49:00] <ss23> Just MySQL being horrible
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255: [11:07:00] <ss23> simon__w: knew you'd come crawling back...
256: [11:07:00] <ss23> Oh... oh WHATEVER
257: [11:08:00] <Zauberfisch-idle> haha
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269: [12:51:00] <ss23> Go MySQL! Giving us simple ways to do things since ages ago - https://gist.github.com/ss23/5227621
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273: [13:02:00] <ss23> moin chillu
274: [13:02:00] <ss23> But yeah :P
275: [13:02:00] <ss23> Not mine, Zauberfisch's
276: [13:02:00] <chillu> Haha, you mean from your bug cleanup?
277: [13:02:00] <ss23> chillu: Got any emails lately? Like, a few thousand of them? :D
278: [13:02:00] <chillu> Hello!
279: [13:03:00] <chillu> Oh yep. You didn't get those emails though, right? Just checking that we haven't done anything wrong
280: [13:04:00] <ss23> Nope, I didn't, I just heard you did :P
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284: [13:51:00] <Zauberfisch> :D
285: [13:52:00] <Zauberfisch> chillu I only mapped your account and the one of simon
286: [13:52:00] <Zauberfisch> but then again, no one has so much assigned tickets as you have chillu
287: [13:52:00] <Zauberfisch> but when we do the full migration, thats gonna be a lot of email spam
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291: [14:19:00] <Marvanni> Any idea how I can set up SearchContext on a DO so I can search for a DB field, but using a formfieldname different than the table field im searching for?
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295: [14:47:00] <chillu> Zauberfisch: Yeah, I'm not too concerned of a one-off influx of emails
296: [14:50:00] <Zauberfisch> good
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299: [15:16:00] <Shrike_Finland> Just to check, in templates OR = ||, right? Example: <% if RecordClassName == "FrontpageJumbotronSwipeshow" || "Swipeshow" || "FrontpageSwipeshow" %>
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303: [15:45:00] <FrozenFire> Shrike_Finland, Yes
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305: [16:02:00] <guci0> Hello Moto!
306: [16:02:00] <guci0> Oje, fusion drive done :)
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312: [17:40:00] <pex__> hi, can i use db class to make connection to other database and manage it like SS database?
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322: [19:18:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/silverstripe/sapphire/compare/bfab74ac6e4a...12ed83f88bf5
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