#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 8 March 2013

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1: [00:04:00] <azureKnight> You don't want to be able to see the category relation in the person?
2: [00:05:00] <azureKnight> Or rather, edit it in the person?
3: [00:06:00] <Pyromanik> and I'm all "OMINOUS COMPUTER IS OMINOUS"
4: [00:06:00] <Pyromanik> screens are black
5: [00:06:00] <Pyromanik> few split seconds of silence, then suddenly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEgtlZYuy8
6: [00:06:00] <azureKnight> Hmm. Have you done the $fields->removebyname()?
7: [00:06:00] <catcher> I have another person admin that should show the category gridfield.
8: [00:06:00] <catcher> azureKnight, correct, but only hidden from category->person.
9: [00:06:00] * Pyromanik puts in head phones
10: [00:06:00] * Pyromanik sits at his computer after lunch
11: [00:07:00] <Pyromanik> felt like I was about to discover the secret of the internet.
12: [00:07:00] <catcher> rather, category -> person -> categories*
13: [00:07:00] <catcher> category -> person -> category: bad
14: [00:07:00] <catcher> people -> categories: good
15: [00:07:00] <catcher> not per member, per context
16: [00:07:00] <azureKnight> So, per member.
17: [00:07:00] <azureKnight> Oh.
18: [00:08:00] <azureKnight> Hmm. Ok.
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21: [00:18:00] <Pyromanik> how to greater than filter with 3.0.1?
22: [00:20:00] <simon_w> Field:GreaterThan
23: [00:21:00] <Pyromanik> ah, yeh just found it, thanks simon_w
24: [00:21:00] <simon_w> Also, upgrade :p
25: [00:22:00] <catcher> Timefield showdropdown option gone in SS3?
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27: [00:22:00] <FrozenFire> Upgrade indeed.
28: [00:23:00] <simon_w> Looks like it
29: [00:24:00] <Colin[pi]> can't believe I am chasing a customer for less than $100 invoiced in november last year
30: [00:25:00] <Pyromanik> they'll contact you pretty quick, betcha.
31: [00:25:00] <Colin[pi]> yep that'll be the next step if final contact fails
32: [00:25:00] <Pyromanik> just turn their site off
33: [00:25:00] <Colin[pi]> sigh
34: [00:25:00] <Pyromanik> Colin[pi], sounds about normal
35: [00:26:00] <Pyromanik> "ZOMG LOSING ALL MY CUSTOMERS SITE IS DOWN FIX IT YOU TWAT" - "well actually, if you pay your invoice..."
36: [00:26:00] <Colin[pi]> visitors get a "Site is administratively disabled, please contact accounts@" message :)
37: [00:26:00] <Colin[pi]> they usually call pretty damn fast
38: [00:30:00] <spronk> also, fuck outlook. :@
39: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> heeh
40: [00:30:00] <spronk> mm
41: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> also, fuck emails.
42: [00:30:00] <Pyromanik> yes
43: [00:31:00] <Colin[pi]> email needs to die already
44: [00:31:00] <Pyromanik> I don't like emails.
45: [00:31:00] <Pyromanik> no, I like email.
46: [00:32:00] <spronk> 150!
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48: [00:32:00] <simon_w> But emails support PGP! http://xkcd.com/1181/
49: [00:32:00] <spronk> RUTHERFORD
50: [00:33:00] <Pyromanik> that's pretty epic, by any standard.
51: [00:33:00] <simon_w> Pyromanik, debutant opener
52: [00:33:00] <Pyromanik> oh cricket.
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54: [00:33:00] <spronk> mighty first innings
55: [00:33:00] <spronk> but still
56: [00:33:00] <spronk> yeah :(
57: [00:33:00] <simon_w> spronk, you mean gone?
58: [00:33:00] <Pyromanik> ??
59: [00:33:00] <spronk> i mean.. 171!
60: [00:33:00] <Pyromanik> rofl, so true simon_w
61: [00:33:00] <Pyromanik> fuck, almost a double century!
62: [00:34:00] <simon_w> That's more than England got all together!
63: [00:34:00] <simon_w> Yeah
64: [00:36:00] <Pyromanik> so why haven't we already won? is it a 2 day test?
65: [00:36:00] <Pyromanik> aznain, nope
66: [00:36:00] <aznain> [ss3] Do dataobject has controller ? like page has Page_Controller ?
67: [00:37:00] <Pyromanik> aznain, well, there is of course Controller
68: [00:37:00] <Pyromanik> simon_w, yeh, that's what I meant.
69: [00:37:00] <simon_w> and 5 days
70: [00:37:00] <Pyromanik> but it is the CMS and ModelAsController that manages the close coupling between SiteTree and ContentController
71: [00:37:00] <Pyromanik> heh, I thought it was five, but got confused between days and innings.
72: [00:37:00] <simon_w> Pyromanik, tests are two innings each
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75: [00:43:00] <aznain> Actually was reading this http://www.silverstripe.org/general-questions/show/14111 ... they were talking about Content_Controller ... and this http://www.silverstripe.org/dataobjectmanager-module-forum/show/15453 ... so got confused ..
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80: [00:51:00] <simon_w> So, how about that weather?
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82: [00:52:00] <simon_w> "Beautiful irony that Australians are accusing England of being over-confident"
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84: [00:58:00] <terryapodaca> anyone have experience with the Payment module?
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86: [01:09:00] <Pyromanik> not in channel I think, sorry terryapodaca
87: [01:11:00] <Pyromanik> aznain, I would hazard a guess that http://www.silverstripe.org/general-questions/show/14111 isn't using the correct controller.
88: [01:12:00] <Pyromanik> ModelAsController works on extensions of SiteTree, which he does not have.
89: [01:12:00] <Pyromanik> Would need proper routing set up in order to get it directing properly
90: [01:12:00] <Pyromanik> (this is all off my memory, which isn't the best).
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92: [01:16:00] <oddnoc> Anyone know what kind of call would trigger a lazy load in DataObject?
93: [01:17:00] <terryapodaca> I haven't heard Lazy Load since my C#/ASP.NET days
94: [01:17:00] <terryapodaca> lol
95: [01:18:00] <oddnoc> I'm trying to add a test that would trigger http://open.silverstripe.org/ticket/8264
96: [01:18:00] <oddnoc> lol
97: [01:23:00] <irogue> @LIVENewsDesk: A large shark has been spotted at #Muriwai Beach on Auckland's west coast.
98: [01:23:00] <irogue> not again...
99: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> lulz
100: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> rofl
101: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> Sally Boucher - LinkedIn <murillon67@amanalsharq.com>
102: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> who are you fooling?
103: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> anamalsharq
104: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> linkedin.com
105: [01:26:00] <Pyromanik> NOT EVEN CLOSE
106: [01:27:00] <oddnoc> Ah! A clue. It happens when a template calls in to the Controller, not when calling DataObject directly.
107: [01:27:00] <Pyromanik> oddnoc, templates always call to controllers...
108: [01:27:00] <Pyromanik> irogue, they're probably always out there... just now it's news to report on them.
109: [01:27:00] <Pyromanik> well, unless it's something injected through globalTemplateProvider
110: [01:28:00] <oddnoc> My test fails to fail because it doesn't mimic a tenplate
111: [01:28:00] <oddnoc> template*
112: [01:28:00] <irogue> Pyromanik: yeah, depends if someone has a stupid definition of "large"
113: [01:28:00] <Pyromanik> oic
114: [01:28:00] <Pyromanik> like $Now
115: [01:28:00] <oddnoc> Pyromanik: Yes, what I mean is, it doesn't happen when code calls the model directly, but only when going through a controller, as a template does.
116: [01:29:00] <irogue> one killed, the other still out there somewhere
117: [01:29:00] <irogue> there's normally shitloads of small-medium sharks out there
118: [01:29:00] <Pyromanik> irogue, anything bigger than a hectors dolphin, I'm sure.
119: [01:29:00] <irogue> but great whites, like the 2 that attacked last time, are rare
120: [01:29:00] <Pyromanik> oh there were 2 of them?
121: [01:29:00] <irogue> yep
122: [01:30:00] <irogue> they helicoptered over all those beaches for 2 days looking for it before deciding to reopen the beaches when they didnt spot it
123: [01:33:00] <Pyromanik> it's had it's feed, it's back off to aussie.
124: [01:35:00] <Pyromanik> wrong version of PHP
125: [01:35:00] <Pyromanik> basename(__FILE)
126: [01:35:00] <Pyromanik> err
127: [01:35:00] <terryapodaca> Notice: Use of undefined constant __DIR__ - assumed '__DIR__'??
128: [01:35:00] <Pyromanik> basename(__FILE__)
129: [01:36:00] <simon_w> basename(dirname(__FILE__))
130: [01:36:00] <terryapodaca> define('SHOP_DIR',basename(__DIR__));
131: [01:36:00] <terryapodaca> that's the line of code
132: [01:36:00] <terryapodaca> change it to FILE?
133: [01:36:00] <Pyromanik> mm, that's the one
134: [01:37:00] <Pyromanik> you're running 5.2
135: [01:37:00] <simon_w> Though you really should upgrade PHP instead
136: [01:37:00] <Pyromanik> also, __DIR__ was added in php 5.3.0
137: [01:37:00] <Pyromanik> so yeah
138: [01:37:00] <Pyromanik> http://php.net/manual/en/language.constants.predefined.php
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142: [01:47:00] <simon_w> Home time!
143: [01:48:00] <simon_w> (suck it Pyromanik :p)
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146: [01:58:00] <priithansen> can anybody elaborate why in newsletter module some textfields are created like this Object::create('TextField'...
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151: [02:30:00] <Pyromanik> simon_w, :<
152: [02:30:00] * simon_w is home!
153: [02:31:00] <simon_w> And now, it's time to play more RCT3
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155: [03:14:00] <Pyromanik> Rise Cofthe Triads 3?
156: [03:28:00] <irogue> i'm still all about the RCT1
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158: [03:28:00] <irogue> with expansions of course
159: [03:29:00] <Stomach> $errorPage->publish("Stage", "Live");
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161: [03:29:00] <Stomach> quick question - how can i generate the 404/500 pages in assets through a $page->write() or $page->publish in the code?
162: [03:29:00] <Stomach> $errorPage->writeToStage('Stage');
163: [03:29:00] <Stomach> isnt :(
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165: [03:39:00] <simon_w> Stomach, ->doPublish()
166: [03:40:00] <Pyromanik> oic
167: [03:40:00] <simon_w> Pyromanik, RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 (plus expansions)
168: [03:40:00] <Pyromanik> beer time
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172: [03:48:00] <Stomach> thats simon_w
173: [03:48:00] <Stomach> thanks*
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201: [06:24:00] <peter_ss> hello is it possible to route page to a certain controller action?
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203: [06:29:00] <FrozenFire> What do you mean route a page to a certain controller action?
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205: [06:30:00] <FrozenFire> A controller's default action is index
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221: [09:06:00] <kinglozzer> Morning all
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227: [09:17:00] <zfmf> morning
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238: [09:54:00] <travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/silverstripe/sapphire/builds/5338093
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252: [10:34:00] <kinglozzer> I'm logged in, colleague isn't, I can see changes on the front-end, he can't
253: [10:34:00] <kinglozzer> Just confirming this: users logged in to the CMS see the latest draft on the front end as well?
254: [10:48:00] <discorpia> kinglozzer: if you add the navigator to your theme logged in users can switch between draft and published site
255: [10:49:00] <kinglozzer> Yeah I was just double checking that it was the case :) thanks
256: [10:49:00] <discorpia> np
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260: [11:04:00] <micmania1> Does anybody know if there is a way to disable lazy loading?
261: [11:06:00] <ajshort> why do you want to do that?
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304: [12:20:00] <kinglozzer> Ah never mind, I was doing parent::init() after Requirements::clear()... doh
305: [12:20:00] <kinglozzer> Hmm. If I do Requirements::customScript('<script here>', 'SomeID'); in Page_Controller, then Requirements::clear('SomeID'); in a subclass it doesn't clear
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333: [14:13:00] <ARNHOE__> chillu: In 3.1 when using uploadfield and uploading, it doesn't trigger the save & publish buttons like when I change text in fields
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335: [14:18:00] <chillu> ARNHOE__: Yeah, I guess if you upload into a has_one then it should trigger a change. Doesn't make sense for has_many or many_many, since they're not dependent on you saving the page. Happy to look through a pull request.
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338: [14:36:00] <PigeonFriend> chillu: Is the html5lib parser being used for shortcodes in 3.1 a pre-alpha / non-maintained peice of software... that hasn't been updated in a year? surely this can't be true
339: [14:37:00] <chillu> Its been contributed to by quite a few high profile folk, but in general I share your concern
340: [14:40:00] <PigeonFriend> wowsers - ok... I just wanted to check I wasn't reading that wrong
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343: [14:42:00] <kinglozzer> chillu: Forgive my ignorance, as I don't know how the rendering stages work, but does all content pass through the shortcode parser? We never use shortcodes, is it something that could in theory be disabled/bypassed?
344: [14:43:00] <kinglozzer> Unless I suppose the built-in [file-id=12] etc are included in that, we use those ;)
345: [14:43:00] <PigeonFriend> kinglozzer: anything that is indicated as HTMLText is parsed, i believe
346: [14:43:00] <PigeonFriend> it's because the link shortcode parser is registered by the code.. maybe you could de-register it and it won't parse it ??
347: [14:44:00] <kinglozzer> Absolutely PigeonFriend, I mean as a possible config value to disable it
348: [14:44:00] <PigeonFriend> kinglozzer: but also, just because 'you' don't use them, doesn't mean the core / CMS isn't#
349: [14:44:00] <PigeonFriend> kinglozzer: exactly
350: [14:52:00] <kinglozzer> Yeah just taking a peek now, seems it is essential for all ID-based links
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352: [15:06:00] <chillu> Its invoked in HTMLText, which is also the default_cast for anything you pass to a template. There's no opt out. I'm setting some wheels in motion internally to get this properly looked at.
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360: [15:28:00] <g4b0> hi all
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363: [15:32:00] <g4b0> UndefinedOffset: it seems we can continue working with XHTML :)
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366: [15:35:00] <UndefinedOffset> g4b0... oh? how? (haven't been watching channel this am)
367: [15:35:00] <UndefinedOffset> busy day here at webbuilders group ;)
368: [15:36:00] <g4b0> my pull request was accepted
369: [15:36:00] <g4b0> other work was done by other in ContentNegotiator
370: [15:37:00] <g4b0> and it seems, reading on SilverStripe Core Development group, that XHTML will be fully supported on SS 3.1
371: [15:38:00] <PigeonFriend> g4b0: I hope so too.. but who's using XHTML anymore?
372: [15:38:00] <g4b0> I hope :P
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376: [15:40:00] <g4b0> A lot of people still use it
377: [15:41:00] <g4b0> http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/markup_language
378: [15:41:00] <kinglozzer> Damnit, just created an extension for a GridField 'save and close' button before seeing that UncleCheese has already done it.
379: [15:42:00] <g4b0> for example
380: [15:42:00] <PigeonFriend> g4b0: ok, who builds new sites with it, i mean
381: [15:42:00] <g4b0> XHTML is a *requirement* for building sites for Italian Public Adminstration
382: [15:43:00] <PigeonFriend> ergh, requirements like that are ridiculous and lead to stagnation... it's a terrible way to go about it. do they dictate the version of XHTML?
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384: [15:43:00] <PigeonFriend> don't get me wrong, I wrote all my stuff in xhtml 1.1 before html5 was more widely accepted - i even joined the html5 party 'late' according to lots of people i work with. but it accepts self closing tags, so i can still write my xhtml and pretend its HTML
385: [15:44:00] <PigeonFriend> lets all build our sites in XHTML 1.0 transitional! yay!
386: [15:44:00] <PigeonFriend> i never understood people building *new* sites in transitional. made me rage
387: [15:44:00] <g4b0> ehehe
388: [15:44:00] <g4b0> you're right
389: [15:45:00] <Webdoc> hi
390: [15:45:00] <PigeonFriend> just use html if you're scared to implement xhtml properly
391: [15:45:00] <PigeonFriend> or need html features
392: [15:45:00] <g4b0> but that's the way Italy go ahead
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394: [15:46:00] <g4b0> they require site in XHTML 1.0/1.1 strict
395: [15:46:00] <Webdoc> Have a strange error if i use simpletinymcefield
396: [15:47:00] <g4b0> it can't be accesed by IE6
397: [15:47:00] <g4b0> html5 have still some issues with screen reader
398: [15:47:00] <Webdoc> if i use one paragraph in content everything is ok it saves if there is more than one paragraph it gives error
399: [15:48:00] <g4b0> Webdoc
400: [15:48:00] <Webdoc> have someone haved the same issue and know how to fix it
401: [15:48:00] <g4b0> which SS version?
402: [15:48:00] <UndefinedOffset> g4b0 ya i seen that pull was accepted, only problem i seen with it was the forcing of the xhtml header, which seems to what causes the dom to go into the locked down mode atleast in firefox
403: [15:49:00] <Webdoc> dataobject master
404: [15:49:00] <PigeonFriend> well, Italy is in a terrible position, so im happy not to work for the italian government
405: [15:49:00] <PigeonFriend> you probably wont get paid
406: [15:49:00] <Webdoc> ss2.4.10
407: [15:49:00] <Webdoc> from github
408: [15:49:00] <Webdoc> and its in popup pagetype using dataobjects
409: [15:51:00] <g4b0> My site is finally validating :)
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411: [15:51:00] <g4b0> UndefinedOffset: my pull request do remove the xml declaration requirement
412: [15:51:00] <g4b0> PigeonFriend: ahahah, I hope we will get payed :)
413: [15:52:00] <g4b0> Webdoc: can't help you with SS 2.x
414: [15:52:00] <PigeonFriend> g4b0: good that it's strict at least
415: [15:52:00] <g4b0> yea, it's good
416: [15:53:00] <Webdoc> is the new 3 beta version better in performance have someone tried
417: [15:53:00] <kinglozzer> Webdoc: Yes it is much better
418: [15:53:00] <PigeonFriend> i <3 XHTML 1.1
419: [15:54:00] <Webdoc> can my problme be because i use HTMLtext maybe i need to use some other like Varchar
420: [15:57:00] <Webdoc> or the simpletinymce uses only htmltext db typr
421: [15:57:00] <Webdoc> type
422: [16:00:00] <PigeonFriend> kinglozzer: have you actually benchmarked? I'd be surprised if 3.0 was that much faster than 2.4
423: [16:01:00] <kinglozzer> Not compared to 2.4, benchmarked 3.0 vs 3.1
424: [16:02:00] <UndefinedOffset> in theory it should be, the lazy loading aspect of the new orm should dramatically increase database performance. in theory, never actually benchmarked the same code to see what performance boost it does give
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438: [17:24:00] <waveydave> Howdy. When fetching data using Class::get()->..., is it possible to add a 'GROUP BY' clause to the query?
439: [17:26:00] <FrozenFire> Yes and no. Yes, in that you can hack it up to do so by getting your final query put together using DataList, and then exporting it and adding the group by on the SQLQuery
440: [17:26:00] <FrozenFire> No, in that it ends up being a hacky mess that could break without warning.
441: [17:26:00] <FrozenFire> What's your end goal?
442: [17:27:00] <waveydave> Currently got a set of search results but some are duplicated due to being in multiple categories
443: [17:28:00] <waveydave> The DISTINCT flag doesn't solve that entirely as a lot are duplicated in the data supplied by client.
444: [17:28:00] <FrozenFire> Ah. Was about to say, DISTINCT should solve that. :P
445: [17:28:00] <FrozenFire> Well, that's certainly a pickle. Are you not able to clean up your data?
446: [17:31:00] <FrozenFire> Duplicating data is rarely the answer.
447: [17:31:00] <waveydave> I'd like to but when asked the client didn't want the records to appear in multiple categories. When they changed their mind I thought it'd be easier just to duplicate the records and filter when searching than change a bunch of existing queries.
448: [17:32:00] <FrozenFire> But yeah, it's not really in DataList's scope to try to filter that down.
449: [17:33:00] <waveydave> I know. In this case I thought that would get it done and out of the way, nasty as it is. Project is already way over time/budget.
450: [17:34:00] <FrozenFire> Heh. I'm more familiar with that situation than I'd ever have liked.
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452: [17:35:00] <FrozenFire> I would just say that in order to handle it using SQL, you'd be making your way off the beaten path, which SS is notorious for punishing.
453: [17:35:00] <FrozenFire> So that itself may take you far more time than simply fixing your model
454: [17:36:00] <waveydave> Sure. Might have to leave it as it is. Client can pay if they're desperate for for more changes. :)
455: [17:36:00] <waveydave> Thanks for your help.
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488: [20:06:00] <FrozenFire> I know I've done it before, but I can't for the life of me remember how.
489: [20:06:00] <FrozenFire> HTMLEditorField on front-end. Howto?
490: [20:07:00] <FrozenFire> It's for the blog module posting form.
491: [20:12:00] <catcher> FrozenFire, I use SimpleHTMLEditorField
492: [20:13:00] <FrozenFire> Not seeing it in SS3
493: [20:13:00] <FrozenFire> Does that exist?
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495: [20:14:00] <FrozenFire> I'm sure I could load my own shit in, but I'd much prefer just to get this project done. :P
496: [20:17:00] <socks__> What's the path to add another checkbox in the CMS to Settings > Visibility or anywhere in the Settings tab? Have tried Root.Behavior and Root.Settings and various others.
497: [20:17:00] <FrozenFire> socks__, It's a separate function as of SS3
498: [20:17:00] <FrozenFire> DataObject::getSettingsFields
499: [20:18:00] <FrozenFire> Or maybe that's on SiteTree
500: [20:18:00] <FrozenFire> Either way, getSettingsFields
501: [20:18:00] <socks__> FrozenFire: ok, i'll check into that, thanks
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505: [20:34:00] <FrozenFire> I figured it out pretty easily, actually.
506: [20:34:00] <FrozenFire> Ended up just being a matter of creating an init script to call tinyMCE, since HTMLEditorField is one of those dickhead fields which includes Javascript from the controller.
507: [20:34:00] <catcher> FrozenFire, ah yeah, that's not in core. It ended up being less struggle than HTMLEditorField though.
508: [20:38:00] <catcher> Glad to hear it, I remember a wrestling match with the js includes.
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519: [21:34:00] <catcher> hmm.. I want to customize my nav, which operates on Menu(1) -> Children. I'd much rather override the page's Children() than hack up the nav template. Doable?
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522: [21:35:00] <catcher> CustomPage->Children() isn't called, but there must be a way..
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524: [21:36:00] <catcher> maybe I can override Menu() on Page.
525: [21:37:00] <FrozenFire> Though, not entirely sure what you're asking
526: [21:37:00] <FrozenFire> catcher, http://api.silverstripe.org/master/source-class-Hierarchy.html#573
527: [21:38:00] <FrozenFire> An extension can augment the children of the page using augmentStageChildren
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529: [21:40:00] <catcher> My custom page extends Page, and it has_many categories (but no sitetree children). I want to define the categories as being those children so Menu(1) -> Children finds them.
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531: [21:44:00] <FrozenFire> Huh
532: [21:44:00] <FrozenFire> That about covers it.
533: [21:44:00] <FrozenFire> On the categories, have a Link method
534: [21:44:00] <FrozenFire> And give those categories
535: [21:44:00] <FrozenFire> Just define Children on your Page
536: [21:45:00] <FrozenFire> ContentController::Menu() is nothing special
537: [21:45:00] <catcher> apparently I'm lying.
538: [21:45:00] <catcher> Ah - I accidentally had it on the controller.
539: [21:45:00] <catcher> Tried that, Children wasn't being called.
540: [21:46:00] <FrozenFire> Yeah, the controller is never involved when getting the data
541: [21:46:00] <FrozenFire> Which is what Menu does
542: [21:46:00] <FrozenFire> :P
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545: [21:51:00] <catcher> MenuTitle & Link methods, and golden. SO much nicer than hacking up the nav template.
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563: [22:39:00] <azureKnight> Anybody know the suggested image size of the graphics to replace the cms-tree icons?
564: [22:40:00] <azureKnight> Thanks.
565: [22:40:00] <FrozenFire> I use these: http://i.imgur.com/q0RlNFI.png
566: [22:40:00] <azureKnight> Brilliant.
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568: [22:42:00] <azureKnight> Woah??? That was very british of me.
569: [22:42:00] <FrozenFire> :P
570: [22:42:00] <azureKnight> :)
571: [22:43:00] <priithansen> here is a interesting problem. What is # < this called in english :)
572: [22:43:00] <FrozenFire> priithansen, Hash
573: [22:43:00] <FrozenFire> Pip pip, guv'na
574: [22:43:00] <azureKnight> Next up: Cheers.
575: [22:44:00] <priithansen> hah nice thanks. Apparently google doesn't want to search symbols
576: [22:44:00] <FrozenFire> Or pound
577: [22:45:00] <azureKnight> I think here in the US we call it a pound sign.
578: [22:45:00] <azureKnight> Haha.
579: [22:45:00] <FrozenFire> Usually only "pound" in the context of a telephone, though
580: [22:45:00] <azureKnight> hash in british.
581: [22:46:00] <priithansen> :)
582: [22:46:00] <azureKnight> And they ignore lb for 'Stones'
583: [22:46:00] <azureKnight> and the pound is currency. :O
584: [22:46:00] <FrozenFire> Hash or crunch in the context of computing
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586: [22:46:00] <priithansen> british have a different kind of pound
587: [22:46:00] <azureKnight> priithansen: I'm aware.
588: [22:49:00] <priithansen> As if it wasn't enough that mass units are not even defined by fundamental physical properties we can't even agree on unit system to use
589: [22:50:00] <FrozenFire> Metric
590: [22:50:00] <FrozenFire> Sure we can
591: [22:51:00] <FrozenFire> It's usually just the very old or very dumb that use imperial units
592: [22:52:00] <priithansen> I was under the impression that in US they use some other funky units
593: [22:53:00] <priithansen> maybe it's just the inch 3/4 stuff then
594: [22:53:00] <FrozenFire> Yes. The very old or the very dumb.
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596: [22:53:00] <FrozenFire> :D
597: [22:53:00] <FrozenFire> Americans using non-metric fall in the latter.
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607: [23:42:00] <willr> @simon_w will be round slightly later, got to wait for cake to cool to ice
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609: [23:46:00] <terryapodaca> is anyone alive in here? or is everyone off on their weekend?
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616: [23:53:00] <willr> terryapodaca in and around
617: [23:53:00] <azureKnight> :)
618: [23:53:00] <azureKnight> Metric makes more sense to me, though I can't break the American in me to switch to it. I still respect it.
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620: [23:55:00] <simon_w> willr, brothers are here decorating already. You're missing out.
621: [23:55:00] <terryapodaca> ok, this is an overall programming question, not just specific to SS, but the site is built with SS so there might be better answers here.
622: [23:56:00] <terryapodaca> I have products, each product will have a limit on how many you can purchase, and also a limit on the amounts
623: [23:57:00] <terryapodaca> so Product 1 has a limit of 1500, and your order has to be by the 100's (so 100 or 200 or 900, etc)
624: [23:57:00] <terryapodaca> Product 2 has a limit of 50 and the order has to be by the 10s
625: [23:58:00] <priithansen> ajshort: in the badass GridFieldEditableColumns of yours. Using the "A Closure which returns the field instance." how would one get the column titles to display?
626: [23:58:00] <terryapodaca> some product have no maximum or limit
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628: [23:58:00] <terryapodaca> any ideals how to do this?

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